Barbell Shrugged - [Parker University] Higher Education for Human Performance: w/ Dr. William Morgan, Anders Varner, Doug Larson, and Coach Travis Mash #760

Episode Date: August 14, 2024

Chiropractor to Congress, Supreme Court, and the White House, Parker University’s Seventh President, Active Texas Chiropractic Association Member, and proud Texan Dr. Morgan has a long history of serving in military healthcare. At age 17, he joined the Navy and served with a Marine Recon company as a special operations technician hospital corpsman. During that time, he qualified in parachuting, military diving, submarine insertion, jungle warfare, combat swimming, explosives, mountaineering, winter warfare and Arctic survival. Additionally, he attended anti-terrorist training at the FBI Academy. After leaving active military service and transferring to the Navy Reserves, Dr. Morgan began his educational journey to become a Doctor of Chiropractic. While at Palmer College of Chiropractic-West, he transferred to a Naval Special Warfare platoon as the unit’s primary hospital corpsman. In 1985, Dr. Morgan received his Doctorate in Chiropractic from Palmer College of Chiropractic–West and soon after, married fellow Palmer graduate, Clare Pelkey. They practiced for thirteen years in California. In 1998, Dr. Morgan was chosen to establish the first chiropractic clinic at the National Naval Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, which later became Walter Reed National Military Medical Center. In 2015, Walter Reed recognized Dr. Morgan with its highest honor for clinical excellence, the Master Clinician’s Award. During the last 18 years at the military’s most prestigious medical centers, he practiced in an integrative setting, providing chiropractic care to the injured troops returning from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. In the year 2000, Dr. Morgan was appointed as the Chiropractor to Congress at the U.S. Capitol. At the Office of the Attending Physician to Congress, doctors of many specialties care for members of Congress and the Supreme Court. In 2007, Dr. Morgan began serving as the White House Chiropractor. He was appointed chiropractor for the United States Naval Academy football team in 2009 (which never lost to Army while under his care). In 2011, Dr. Morgan was appointed to the United States Navy Musculoskeletal Continuum of Care Advisory Board, an entity created to address the prevalent injuries sustained by U.S. Armed Forces Personnel during active-duty operations. Dr. Morgan also served on the Spine Subcommittee, which helps develop care algorithms for treating spinal conditions and determining the future of musculoskeletal management in the U.S. Armed Forces. Upon arriving in Texas, he became an active member and supporter of the Texas Chiropractic Association (TCA). Almost immediately, he organized a leadership summit to establish a legislative agenda strategy for chiropractors in Texas. Texas Chiropractors had not won a significant legislative victory in two decades, but in 2017 four bills advantageous to the chiropractic profession passed. Additionally, Morgan has assisted in fundraising, membership recruitment, and awareness for the TCA. As lifetime member of the American Chiropractic Association (ACA), he has also held several leadership positions in the organization and continues to serve on the Advisory Board and Ethics Committee. He is also a board member of the Association of Chiropractic Colleges. Dr. Morgan is the recipient of many prestigious awards, namely: The American Chiropractic Association Chairman’s Award of Valor, 2003 Chiropractor of the Year from the American Chiropractic Association, 2003 Doctor of Laws, L.L.D. (honoris causa), National University of Health Sciences, 2004 Master Clinician Award, Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, 2015 The Keeler Plaque: “Chiropractor of the Year” awarded by the Texas Chiropractic Association in 2018 TCA President’s Award, 2019-2020 2022 Congressional Veteran Commendation for the Twenty-Fourth Congressional District of Texas Work with RAPID Health Optimization Anders Varner on Instagram Doug Larson on Instagram Coach Travis Mash on Instagram

Shrug family, this week on Barbell Shrugged, Dr. William Morgan from Parker University. He's the president at Parker University, which is very cool because that is where we were last weekend at the Biomolecular Athlete for all of our members and coaches. Very, very cool meeting all of you guys in person, some of you for the very first time, and an absolutely phenomenal time hanging out. On top of that, on Friday when we got down there, we had some free time to go check out what they're building at Parker University in Dallas, Texas. I saw some of the most ridiculous technology related to human performance.

And this goes all the way from developing the future of physical therapy, chiropractic, strength and conditioning, kind of every aspect of where they are in human performance with the best technologies and the most money I could ever imagine being invested into this university, it blew my mind. And the guy that is in charge of it all is on the show today. And we are going to be walking through his vision of what can be done to better the field, as well as just understanding his background, how he got into human performance, as well as becoming the president of a university, which doesn't seem like that's the easiest thing in the world to do. You got to kind of actually know what you're

doing, be very good at fundraising, have a real vision for where the school is gonna go. And I was blown away. I'm a believer. If I was ever to go back to school at 41 years old, I would want to go to Parker University and learn from them because they speak our language. Even in the very first meeting that we had, I had to stop Dr. Morgan and I had to go, hey, where did you learn how to speak meathead? Because you're in a suit and tie and I'm allergic to suit and ties, but you're speaking strength and conditioning.

You're speaking physiology. You're good at this thing. And he was able to break free from the graduation ceremony that he had early in the day and come spend an hour with us. And that is exactly what you are about to listen to. So Parker University, just Google that. I want to say it's parkeruniversity.edu and check it all out,

especially if you're a younger person interested in this field and want to get a great education in this, specifically in this field. There isn't like a social sciences department at Parker University. They are purely about human performance. And I think that is very, very cool. As always, friends, make sure you get over to rapidhealthreport.com. That is where Dr.

Andy Galpin is doing a free eight minute video on the three step process that we use here at Rapid Health Optimization to unlock your true physiological potential. In short, how we make the best in the world better. And you can access that free video over at rapidhealthreport.com. Friends, let's get into the show. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I'm Anders Warner, Doug Larson, Nicole Race, and William Morgan. We are at Parker University. You are the president, and nothing says we are here for human performance

in the great state of Texas than a badass pair of cowboy boots on the president. Look at those things. God, those are serious. Those are serious. If you saw what these looked like a year ago when I got them, they were attached to a nine-foot alligator. Oh, yes. Wow.

I got a picture of the alligator over here today. There we go. You wrestled it, choked it out by yourself, didn't you? I got it ashore. That is exactly why you are qualified to build the Human Performance Center at Parker University. And one of the beautiful things about being friends with Dr. Andy Galpin, as well as Barbell Shrugged and the very cool places that we are grateful that we get some opportunities. You walked us through kind of the, as you mentioned, kind of like the fantasy factory of all things human performance.

And we got to see really behind the scenes of like what you're building here from the PowerPoint slide of everything that you're looking at and then actually going through. But I'd love to know kind of what is Parker University? Why is human performance at like the center of what you guys do? and a little bit of just kind of like where this vision came from well human performance not necessarily sports performance so the school started off when jim parker founded he had a series of seminars for chiropractors became a chiropractic college and 14 years ago we became a university now we have 34 majors and we really all of our majors

focus on human performance. How can we improve the human condition and you know of course chiropractic is a natural we're probably the best chiropractic college in the world in my opinion and one of the largest but we have 34 majors and our majors all centered around human performance or enhancing the human condition or health care. And what we'd like to do is remove the barrier to good health so the body can heal itself. We're here to help the body heal itself. As we talked about earlier, nothing is easier than identifying disease. Nothing easier than just throw a pill at somebody. Yeah.

But to get to the underlying cause, that takes skill. It takes time. It takes patience. The way the United States healthcare system is set up is based upon lots of little care. You've got a neurological condition. Here's some gamma piton as opposed to why do you have the neurological condition and what can we do for that? We've really focused on neurology, strength, and human performance. We have a neurology clinic in the Dallas Cowboys Star, and it's state-of-the-art. What you saw yesterday here was actually probably 10x up there. It's quite amazing. We have transcranial stimulation, or transcranial magnetic stimulation, diarostim,

right eye, VNG, you know, eye rehab, interactive metronome, and a plethora of different therapies designed to enhance neuroplasticity and recovery from, from neuro injury, brain injury and to enhance your, your physical capacity. Yeah. When, when you're looking to kind of, cause it started as a chiropractic school and then kind of building that into the idea of human performance that can go exercise phys, it can go physical therapy. Where do you kind of see if there was like a a big vision to where you feel like you go now we're really like leading the charge here well

that that rollout well we've we rebuilt the campus four years ago and we visited all the newly built medical schools across the country and we found what they were doing and then we enhanced it like this building you're in right now is wired for technology that is yet to be invented we know that that we know that it's going to require more electricity more bandwidth and when there's some new technology as i showed you around yesterday we invest in it we also have toured to most of the uh the great human performance centers in our country and abroad. We've been to the Olympic Center. We've been to UFC's Human Performance Center.

I've worked for the Naval Academy for seven years. We went to NASA's Human Performance Center, and we've been to a few places in Europe, and I've got a few more to visit. And we've seen what the state of the art is, and we're bringing this back here, and we're trying to enhance that. But make it a practical. Because some things are just nice to have. Other things really have an impact on health and human performance. We've built a gym that would be a lot nicer than you would see for the average 2,300 student universities you guys saw.

And as I ask people what else you would put into it, very rarely do I have somebody say, I would add this to it because we probably already have it. Yeah, we trained there yesterday, and you asked that same question. I was like, I feel like you guys kind of got it all figured out. I was like, I don't know, Bill. This is a rad gym. It's catnip for kinesiology majors is what that is.

Love it. And you said every classroom here is also a movie studio? This is really built for the online age. So you don't try to make students learn like I did. If Generation Z wants videos, we'll give them videos. So what we did also is we've leaned in and put probably $10 million into production capacity here. You've seen it.

Every classroom is a movie studio we record the classes we have their their powerpoints downloaded the instructors can draw on the powerpoint so you might withdraw a pension here we send it here we have technology and programs that we put in the computers for our students that they they all have the same program that you saw in a virtual anatomy lab. And, of course, we have a real anatomy lab. So we have virtual reality goggles you can dissect in. We have a virtual reality tables. You can high-tech tables you can dissect, real cadavers, and then diagnostic ultrasounds so you can see what's going on in the human body.

We're really trying to give our students an unfair advantage. And those who come here we if you don't i tell them if you don't love anatomy this ain't the right place for you if you're getting seasoned anatomy you're not gonna you probably won't be accepted anyway but you have to really love anatomy because we really dive into it and function so with the with the virtual reality dissections and like the reality classes, so to speak, do you have to be here to do the virtual reality classes?

Because I have my augmented reality headset at home and I'm participating in the class with the rest of the students live and interacting, walking around the same virtual cadaver doing virtual dissections.

You can do it from any place in the world. So you can actually see your instructor or their avatar, rather. Yeah. Any place in the world. So for those, we have a hybrid program.

We'll send them a computer with the programs put in there and their goggles. And we had a grant for $5 million to do 20 cases of clinical cases. So we built these up, and you go in, and you'll ask the patient questions. They'll answer you and the case i i wrote was the cervical spondylotic myelopathy which is a big word for basically arthritic spurs putting pressure on your cord causing myelopathy it's something every physician every physical therapist every chiropractor will see in their career and miss so we want to draw attention to it yeah and so you walk in, you talk to the patient, you ask the questions, they'll answer you.

You can hit them with a virtual reflex hammer, and in my case, it'll have hyperreflex. You have too much reflex. They'll do a Hoppins test, it'll pop positive, or you'll do clonus, it'll pop positive on their virtual patient. And if you're clever enough, you can do whatever you want. You can request blood work, or you can request x-rays.

Well, the x-rays will be, it's a case I had, you can do whatever you want. You can request blood work or you can request x-rays. Well, the x-rays will be of the, it's a case I had. You can see the x-rays and normal. Request the MRIs. Oh, I see there's cord damage. Record the CT. There's actually big spurs putting pressure on the cord. And how would you treat those patients? So we introduced that.

So we have 20 of those cases. Some of them are things you would see and everybody's going to see in their practice. And there's others that you might see once or twice in your lifetime, but we really don't want you to miss it when they walk in. So we got a great tour of all the cool stuff that you already have. But you guys are also building another large facility that's going to have a bunch of other cool stuff that we haven't actually seen yet. Can you walk us through what the vision is for the new facility?

And the vision is very good. And so we have a 64,000 square foot building. And if I was to walk across the street and show you, it's just a huge open palette. And with it, we would like to put a human performance visitor center there. We're probably going to have facsimile spacecraft, capsules, deep-sea diving suits, and a little bit about what is human performance,

what is human adaptability, what makes the human experience unique, but also what can we do to interact with that body to stimulate a change, to create hormesis. You know, hormesis is where you get a little bit of a, what do you call it, irritant, and you respond to it. Like when you work out, you respond by adding more muscles and strength. If you're out in the sun, you're going to get more melanin to respond to that. That's good. Shark Family, I want to take a quick break. If you are enjoying

today's conversation, I want to invite you to come over to rapidhealthreport.com. When you get to rapidhealthreport.com, you will see an area for you to opt in, in which you can see Dan Garner read through my lab work. Now, you know that we've been working at Rapid Health Optimization on programs for optimizing health. Now, what does that actually mean? It means in three parts, we're going to be doing a ton of deep dive into your labs. That means the inside-out approach. So we're not going to be guessing your macros, we're not going to be guessing the total calories that you need. We're actually going to be doing all the work to uncover everything that you have going on inside you. Nutrition, supplementation, sleep. Then we're going to go through and

analyze your lifestyle. Dr. Andy Gal we're going to go through and analyze your lifestyle. Dr. Andy Galpin is going to build out a lifestyle protocol based on the severity of your concerns. Then we're going to also build out all the programs that go into that based on the most severe things first. This truly is a world-class program. We invite you to see step one of this process by going over to rapidhealthreport.com. You can see Dan reading my labs, the nutrition and supplementation that he has recommended that has radically shifted the way that I sleep, the energy that I have during the day, my total testosterone level, and just my ability to trust and have confidence in my health going forward. I really,

really hope that you're able to go over to rapidhealthreport.com, watch the video of my labs and see what is possible. And if it is something that you are interested in, please schedule a call with me on that page. Once again, it's rapidhealthreport.com and let's get back to the show. Cold therapy, heat therapy, hyperbaric, high altitude training. Those are things that we wanted to address in the visitor center and then have in our facility. We're replacing our physiology labs with human performance labs so that it has a more impactful part of their education.

It's interesting to read about Boyle's Law and Dalton's Law, but then if you bring them over there and you're actually seeing what happens in a hyperbaric chamber or high altitude chamber, you'll never forget it plus we want to create more scholars here on campus we're a small school so when I got here we were spending millions of dollars

in research that was kind of having an impact out there, we were doing basic science rat studies and I told the head of our research department that was kind of having an impact out there. We were doing basic science rat studies. And I told the head of our research department, well, instead of trying to change the world, let's change our world. Engage more students and faculty in research and scholarly activity so they appreciate it more. Now our credentialers are requiring a greater degree of scholarly activity.

I need to create labs for them to go over there and do involvement research. Yeah. You're uniquely qualified. Actually, you were showing us kind of the vision of the future here yesterday on the PowerPoint slide. And I might have interrupted you. It wouldn't be the first time I've done that. But I very much noticed quickly that you speak the language of physiology, human performance very well. And I'd love to just kind of understand a little bit more of your background on when this kind of became a passion profession. And as well, kind of like in your travels and other human performance centers

that you've, uh, been to, like how you really got to this point where you were like, we're going to go be leaders in this, uh, in this space. Well, I, you know, I'm a chiropractor by training and we do a lot of physiology. It's based upon, it's a, it's a pretty science intense program. Um, but then, you know, my background is I started off as a Navy diver with medical technician with Marine Reconnaissance. Were you out of Coronado? I have been out of Coronado. So I was Marine Reconnaissance with Alpha Company, 3rd Reconnaissance Battalion.

So I was scuba diver, parachutist. And then I transferred to reserve unit which was naval special warfare a platoon and they they needed more medical diving out of me so they sent me a diving medical program so I learned hyperbaric medicine there and then subsequently went to chiropractic college and just moved on practice as a chiropractor but then i went ahead and i um went to walter or bethesda enabled and opened up a clinic there sort of treating congress at there and then i ended up having a a clinic in the capitol building two days a week for about 18 years occasionally called into the white house for for house calls in the pentagon and then... Fascinating. Yeah, yeah. Tell us the secrets.

All right. Let's hear some stories. Show's over. We're going to do the rest of this offline. All the stories you can never tell. All the people whose necks you've thought about getting your hands on. I could have killed him. I was right in position.

Yeah, please cut that. So we're there. My wife and I were working at Walter Reed, Bethesda, during the war. So we're seeing tons of people coming back from the war with grave injuries, adding our care to them more than you would expect. But understanding the kinetic chain and how it all works together. And then our eldest son was accepted to the Naval Academy, which was like, I'm going to prison.

So ironically, the Naval Academy called me up and said, hey, would you guys take care of the football team? So I, yeah, I visit my son in prison. So I started taking care of the Naval Academy team for, did that for seven years. So that's my, you know, I've not formally trained in sports medicine other than working with the Naval Academy team. And learned a lot there working with an integrated team. So that's kind of my story.

When you started traveling kind of the world, I guess you could say, you said you went to Manchester United's performance centers. We've not gone there i was trying to make that happen next actually a couple weeks if i could but it's just that window's closing the uh but you were at nasa right been to nasa um what do you learn at nasa about kind of what you want to bring here well the as i looked at nasa and the olympic training center i mean yeah i look at our clinic up up in the star it's superior already and at nasa um surprisingly they're really into diagnostic ultrasound every astronaut goes in the space learns diagnostic ultrasound and we have three diagnostic ultrasounds on campus so it's like oh that's interesting yeah um but they had a lot of uh they use force plates. They're really worried about osteopenia, osteoporosis, sarcopenia.

And then so that's their interest. There's a few other things they had that were interesting. But usually, you know, force plates with doing more isometric lifting and understanding how to maintain the physiology and the feed astronauts. The nutrition side was real interesting. I think the strength people were more optimistic than the nutrition people about going to another planet. It was quite interesting. Then I also, this is something I left out. Last year, I went underwater for 24 hours to an undersea habitat where my friend Joe Duturi broke the world's record for the longest anyone has stayed at pressure underwater so went down did some cognitive testing on hand EEGs but for him what is this is interesting to

hyperbarics there's there's several studies rat studies and human studies showing hyperbarics will extend the length of telomeres a telomere you get familiar with this it what that is on the end on the length of telomeres. A telomere, you get familiar with what that is? On the end of each of your chromosomes is a cap, kind of like the caps on your shoelaces. Every time a cell divides, that telomere shrinks, or you lose a little bit of it. And when it totally is gone, that cell stops dividing,

it becomes a senescent cell, a zombie cell. Not good. That cell line is done. Being exposed to hyperbarics over a course of treatments actually lengthens telomeres they found. More studies need to be done. I'm wondering, too, how the pressure affects. Like Joe Duterte, when he was underwater, he became shorter. And I believe, and subsequent studies I'd like to do would be to find

out, would you want to have your astronauts actually in a hyperbaric chamber periodically as they're traveling to Mars? You see, you're taller in the morning than you are at night. There's a diurnal effect. Diurnal means tidal.

You lay down, the tide, the fluid goes into your disc. You become taller. You stand up, the pressure squeezes it out. You become shorter. Joe didn't, he lost like half an inch of height when he was underwater. From the pressure, it never came back. I'm thinking, well, that's the pressure. Maybe that pressure will be enough to stimulate bone strength going to Mars.

I don't know. It would be something I'd be interested in. That's something I would like to figure out. I did wake up this morning taller than Nicole. So he is right. Yeah, right. A couple years ago, we went to NASA, and we saw that they were using some type of a,

the best I can describe it is kind of like a clamshell-type machine, where the combined center of mass of the person and the machine didn't move at all. That way, as they were squatting or deadlifting or doing any barbell movement, again, the combined center of mass didn't move. That way, they weren't perturbing whatever, you know, the International Space Station in this case, or a device that would be taking them all the way to Mars. And they were lifting essentially every single day because in order to maintain bone mass, having no other large stimulus throughout the rest of the day since their legs essentially do nothing,

their arms are doing all the activity floating through the International Space Station. They had to lift weights, squatting and deadlifting seven days a week, sometimes like twice a day just to maintain bone mass to slow the slow to slow the loss of bone mass it doesn't they don't maintain it they slow the loss of bone mass right no that's that is important and what you'll see if there's someone in a survival situation your your body is designed to survive, not necessarily to succeed. So when they've had someone walking across a desert, they were stranded, they had to walk across a desert,

or a long period of time, maybe over days and weeks, what will happen is their muscles, their upper body, atrophy. These are preserved because your body knows the legs, muscles are needed for survival. When someone's been stranded at sea and they're using their body to spear fish for months at sea, their legs wither to nothing, but their upper body is preserved. That's our Mises. That's what we're talking about. Human performance, we're designed uniquely to adapt.

And there's certain stimulus you can push forward to get a benefit um in our health and we're like we're very interested in something we call 20 20 more good years when you turn 65 most of my friends are retiring it's like yeah you know for me i'm like i'm just figuring yeah i saw you doing pull-ups yesterday i was trying trying to keep up. I'm just starting to figure things out. If you expect it to retire at 65, that's the end of it. You're gone. But for me, I just got things figured out. I want to have 20 more good years.

You can be the most impactful when you have the wisdom and then you get to put it to use. You can do the most in your life at that point. It doesn't mean you have to work your regular job. And this is probably my third or fourth career, actually. But what can we do? That's the brain stimulation, hormesis. And what things can we do to stimulate brain health, muscle health, joint health?

Let's dig into brain health a little bit. I'd love to understand. I'm sure Dr. Galpin's mentioned Dr. Tommy Wood to you. Maybe. Probably last year was one of the biggest shows we did was with Dr. Tommy Wood about brain health, dementia, Parkinson's. What are you guys working on in that field as you set this up? Oh, for dementia? Well, of course, the best time to treat dementia is 25 years ago. Yeah. But the second best time is right now. So what we're doing is trying to study that. But there's a lot of things we do know, and studies are coming out showing the impact of things like omega-3 oils, particularly marine-s levels of omega-3 oils from marine sources,

people with low amounts of omega-3 in their blood tests. Well, the longevity is much lower for the people who don't have high levels of marine omega-3s. But what's really interesting, when you compare smokers with high levels of marine omega-3s, they had a similar lifespan to non-smokers with low levels. That's really a shocking thing to say. As bad as we know smoking is for you for so many reasons, and you're essentially talking about fish oil, EPA and DHA, the marine sources of fish oil.

If you have adequate levels of fish oil in your diet, then someone who smokes and has low levels of fish oil, you guys have the same projected longevity? Very similar, yes. Or I guess we're talking specifically about brain health, but you're referencing longevity. No, longevity. Longevity, okay. So it's, forgive me for not being able to cite it off the top of my head here, but that's interesting. And we talked a little bit about central obesity. Somebody who has central obesity in middle age is twice as likely to get Alzheimer's, even if they lose the weight.

When did you start working out? When I was like 13 or 14 years old. Anytime I hear a study or a stat like that where it's like if you're overweight from 30 to 40 years old, even when you're 60, even if you get in shape, it still has this long-term effect. The thing that I'm like of many things in my life that I'm grateful for, finding a barbell at 13 turns out to be like the cheat code for the rest of your life. If you can just figure out how to build some muscle at a young age and wire all

this stuff your body's just got to go perform oh yeah and i i wasn't joking to people that are listening we were literally having a pull-up contest yesterday and i was like this dude is crushing it right now like he just did 10 pull-ups i don't want to mess around with it i used to start with 20 for my first set see he was taking it easy on me. You felt bad for me. But people don't know, you're 65? You're going to be 66. About to be 66, and you're rocking pull-ups out at 66. You bring a bunch of meatheads into the gym, and we're

like, oh, this president guy, like, what's he talking about? And then jumps up on the pull-up bar and everyone's like, yeah! You're a meathead like us! I think he's in the right profession. Yeah, right? Yeah. Crushing. But yeah, so exercise is really good for you. Having large muscles, strong muscles, very good.

You're directly impacting your nervous system. If you wanted to really enhance brain health, go for a walk. Exercise. It directly affects your brain. In fact, for all of our, all the science here and all the majors, if you were to come to me and I'd say, the best thing you can do for your back pain that I have strong evidence for, go for a walk. Mental health issues, go for a walk. Get outside.

Gut issues, go for a walk. Fall risk, go for a walk. We all aren't exercising as well. The society is not exercising like it should. We have a dichotomy. Some people are becoming very fit. Some people are not um many of the the people the kids born today will live to be 104 and then many of them will die at 54 yeah i actually think about that uh my my both of my parents are coming up on that like magical age of 72 where it's like the average um but in order for 72 to be average 68 has to be a big

number we're like very inside those like standard deviations um and then 76 is like the other side of that 68 to 76 is a large gap depending upon just what the past 20 years looked like in that person's life and i feel like being able to extend that out or seeing the people that are at 68 and not doing well. And then you can look at the people that are 76 and they're like, you've got another 15 years in you like easily. That gap really is like the average life expectancy may stay 72, but it's going to be 55 and 95 where the average is now 72 i can very easily see how like the fit just continued to get fitter they're doing the work and and hanging out in places like this or learning from the the research that's coming out of places like this that really does accelerate

their ability for not just the lifespan healthspan but like but being able to live the last 20 years. 20 more good years. So we're trying to expand the healthspan. So if you were back 5,000 years ago, our ancestors would be 29 years old. So they have a very healthy life, and then they would die. Yeah. They'd get sick and die. At some point, you just walk off in the woods and the lion shows up.

Yeah, exactly. And then right now, it's. They'd get sick and die. At some point, you just walk off in the woods and the lion shows up. Yeah, exactly. And then right now, it's for a male in the United States, my health span would be, average male would be 63. Then you die at 79. That's your illness span. Your health span stops at 63. And you're going to live another 16 years in ill health. So that's the gap.

The goal would be for us, and I don't want to throw these numbers out because you hear some people say we can cure aging. I'm just going to be more realistic. Let's have 20 more good years. But let's say somebody could live to be 120. The goal is to be able to live to 120 and for me to go scuba diving the day before I die. Yeah. That's the goal is have a very short, very long health span, very short illness span. I feel like if you can maintain strength and range of motion, then that's like the foundation for maintaining so many other things. If you can maintain strength and range of motion,

then you can actually do some cardiovascular exercise. If you can barely stand up, then you can't go do cardio. You can't go do movement for 45 minutes or whatever. You can go for a walk maybe, but it's like kind of low-level cardio. But if you can actually do a real workout because you have range of motion and still some strength, that allows you to do all the things that you know to do to keep your brain healthy and to be able to keep your cardiovascular system healthy, et cetera. So I feel like if you can do those two things, then that's the foundation for a handful of

other things. You're right. And you've probably seen that study that shows the different exercise in sports people do based on longevity. And it starts off, I can tell, sixth was swimming, but the top two were racquet sports. Pickleball slaying these days. Oh, no yeah so what so what makes that unique it's not just so that is it make you stronger does it make you really aerobically fit it's it's like side to side but you don't get it yeah and a little bit of low level agility agility um if i was as an average person if I was to break my hip

at this age or get a diagnosis of cancer which has the greatest chance of mortality for me oh that hip the trick question of hip so what prevents you from working out it's going to make your bones stronger

your muscles stronger and you need to have the agility fast leg so when you trip and you catch yourself. So speed of motion with your legs is very important. I'm just no longer here, but I saw my grandma actually have that exact thing in my kitchen, but was not able. Like the move sideways, your foot catches, down goes grandma.

And I was like, oh, my gosh. It was like watching a movie of everything you've heard of in slow motion. It was like, there goes grandma. Sorry, grandma. But that's like really what it felt like because I was like, as a movement person, I was like, oh, your foot's stuck. You didn't have the speed and power to be able to pick it up. And you definitely didn't have the lateral movement ability to get your foot out to catch yourself. And that's how grandma goes down. And then to decelerate your entire body yeah incorrect

course yeah it was like all of it happening in this like three second thing that i couldn't help from happening so i was like that's exactly what happens when someone breaks a hip and it was like so obvious that strength speed lateral movements like all of these things is how you solve the problem. But people lose that. And once you lose it, it's hard to get back. One thing my profession is really interested in is joint motion. And, you know, there's, there's, there's, um, I could get real geeky about the small muscles of the spine. Yeah, do it. Oh, okay. So when you hurt, okay. So if, if you hurt your spine, hurt your back, you are more likely to re-injure it. There's a couple things that happen.

You can get motor changes, bony edema, but there's these small muscles in your spine, the rotatories, the interspinalis, intertransverse area, and they have more muscle spindle fibers than the multisegmental muscles. They're intersegmental. So what happens is if you move in agility, these are rapidly stretched, and there's a reflex that goes back to the multifidus, which stiffens to protect the spine. You hurt your back, that reflex is turned off. So let's say every time I move quickly, there's a lag before that tightens up to protect me, and there's a microtrauma, microtrauma, microtrauma.

So there's certain exercises you can do that will reactivate that reflex. Like you have a gag reflex that prevents you from choking. that these like I said the rotatories that are the inner spinalis in a transverse area I they're they're richly endowed with muscle spinal fibers that has that reflex back as opposed to Golgi tendon which reacts to slow reactions so what we did so in addition to exercise one of the things chiropractors do the adjustment it it actually rapidly stretches those it reactivates it it. It's a reactivation of that reflex. Now, there's other reflexes throughout your whole body that you need to stimulate, you know, from the ankle. So you start getting knee replacement. You just lost a lot of proprioception.

But also, the tibia can't rotate in for pronation now. So it alters your gait. And I took care of probably more amputees than anybody else in my practice, my profession has ever done. I worked in a Walter Reed during the war. And I can see somebody with a knee replacement, you know, just walking, they can't pronate. And they lose that ability.

They lose that windlass effect. But also, you're more likely to fall if you don't have that proprioception. And then you get a double knee replacement, double hip replacement. Yeah. Are you guys going to have some sort of adaptive clinical piece to the school? What do you mean? So when you brought up being at at walter reed i actually coached a wheelchair basketball team uh out of san diego through the va and i was like the strength

coach for people that didn't have legs and lacked range of motion and wanted to still play sports um i was wondering if you guys were having any of that as a part of it. But it was also like a time that I had been coaching for a long time-ish, like in the gym for 20-ish years and then 10 professionally doing it. But that specific challenging piece of like, you understand movement when a pro athlete walks in and you're like, oh, I must be good at what I do. Look at what that person, you're like yeah look at that that's great but going and taking like people that are you know missing limbs or have some sort of uh lower body issue and now they want to go play wheelchair basketball and you go well what kind of program am i writing here where there's a lot of

wires that don't specifically do what they're supposed to do. Well, we've worked with a lot of amputees and in the amputee clinic at Walter Reed. You know, I have experience with that. I'm certified as an adaptive trainer myself. We have the Dallas Amputee Network comes here for care, but we're not doing sports with them. So our clinic in the Dallas Star, we do have veterans come with brain injuries. And if I could show you my videos on that, I think you'd be blown away on what we do with that. But again, brain injury affecting interaction in your brain. You see the gray matter and the white matter have different consistencies.

So if there's a blast wave that goes through here, even if we're not moving, they don't accelerate and decelerate at the same time. There's a shear that takes place. You get axon injury. If it's bad enough, you don't live. If it's real bad, you have permanent injury. So then you have limited intercommunication in the brain. And people will come into our clinic.

It's like, you know, when I worked at Bethesda, Walter Reed, the spouse would bring him in. That's my spouse, but it isn't. And they would have a series of treatments that would stimulate the rewiring of that. So it readapts. If you've ever seen a line of ants going back and forth, if you went and disrupted those ants, they would naturally reorganize around that. That's what we're trying to do is stimulate the reorganization and you can do it through transcranial magnetic stimulation, adjustments, certain exercises, definitely strength exercise, agility exercise. We have a gyro stem that spins in every direction

that was very cool uh with the with the laser pointer yeah yeah so what happens you're spinning 360 you're strapped in if somebody has a severe tbi or they're older we might just do some rocky yeah but um so but turn this thing up to 10 if you you saw the video, we have a professional athlete doing that, and they are spinning like 36 rotations a minute, hitting the target. It's amazing. So as you're doing that, just imagine, you're getting your cerebellum, posterior columns, vestibular apparatus, your eye, vestibular reflex, and then you start doing, we have laser guns now that are shooting our targets

while you're spinning upside down in all directions. And then they start asking them cognitive questions. So you have just hyper-stimulated a plastic, you know, that. So you're stimulating plastic changes. And then they'll go do the therapy to overcome whatever their problem is. But, like, when I'm driving home after the first time I did that, I told you, I felt like I had spidey senses. Like, I knew where all the cars were around me, you know, because as you get older, you get very efficient with the pathways. And even though

you might not lose your peripheral vision, you kind of do in your focus. So for me, it's like, okay, you've taken a senior executive who wants to have those 20 more good years, coming in here for a two-week intensive care. That's one of the things we do is a two-week intensive for our veteran care there and also for for um people who are you know healthy but they want to keep keep healthy keep stimulating that brain so we'll bring in brain injury patients for that but like you know for myself i go up there for a two week i had my next contract i go up there for a two-week course every year just to keep my brain healthy, just to stimulate it. As soon as you were talking about the gyro thing, I was like, we need to get Formula One drivers in here and get them synced up to that thing.

Oh, that'd be pretty cool. 30-something spends a minute, and they're just ding, ding, ding, ding, hitting all the targets. It's exactly there at the speeds that they move at. We had a football player just just just rocking it it's like yeah you know but you talk about the ceiling effect like we did a study when i was um you know we did a very large study in the military when it was on back pain was on smoking cessation then reaction time of special forces troops well when you take people who are already near the top of human potential,

your percentage of improvement is very small. So it would be, okay, the real study should have been take an average troop or somebody who's taken a broken toy off the shelf and see what you can do with a broken toy. Can you make them more efficient? Can you improve their reaction time so you know like you said it's it's very hard to make somebody who's near the the they're like the the maximum capacity for human potential to make a meaningful change i'm super interested on the uh kind of you as the as the leader of this um of the school and bringing in kind of the exercise phys and the chiropractic and the physical therapist or physical therapy side.

And all of the years of being in this, there's nothing worse than listening to like a physical therapist and a strength coach and a chiropractor arguing about the same thing. Just using like different words of buckets integrate together to build really like the vision of what you want here. Well, the truth's the truth. Yeah. It's like when I was waiting, you know, when I sit over here watching you interview another person, I was trying to figure out what his profession was. Was he a physical therapist, chiropractor? Fun story about him. Yeah.

He was like one of the first shows i ever did was with mike nelson and i remember getting off the microphone and going that guy is smarter than anyone i've ever met in my life how does he know so much i forget how many degrees he has it's unreal he does have multiple multiple degrees yeah go ahead sorry but that's why he really is that good. But the idea is the truth is there regardless of how you do it. Functional neurology is functional or what we like to say clinical neurology because functional neurology has some connotations to it too. So non-pharmaceutical neurology, the truth is there. We want to stimulate neuroplastic changes in that brain.

How do we do it? And there's a lot of claims out there. So what we want to do is research it and study it. You study the thing, not the profession. So chiropractic is a profession, not a modality. Yeah. It's not just the adjustment. You know, when we take eight years to train a chiropractor, it's, you know,

if I choose to have an adjustment only practice that's okay but they're trained um in many things and they understand a big foundation for chiropractic is neurology and that's why we have a degree like for our students here if they if they've got a 3.0 average um or higher when they get into their clinicals that means their didactic portion of their training is done we'll give them a scholarship for a master's degree in functional neurology or clinical nutrition or strength and human performance or public health. We have several others, but those are things we want to emphasize. And we have a couple hundred people in our neurology program, which is clinical neurology, which is functional neurology. How do you help somebody heal?

It's not just here's the brain, here's what it does, but how do you stimulate neuroplastic changes? Somebody's got a stroke and their leg is damaged and they're rotating as they're walking. We might put them in an Alter-G and reduce the weight of it. Oh, they can straighten it out at 20% of the body weight. But then what if we put a transcranial magnetic stimulator on the motor cortex and then put them in there it might take

50 and then you train them you train them well at that and or you take somebody who's an olympic athlete and you put them in there and train them neurologically at the rate at the world pace yeah you remove their weight so neurologically they're they're they're running at you know at the world pace. Yeah. You remove their weight. So neurologically, they're running at a world-class pace, but they're not having their full weight. You actually can train their neurology to handle that. So those are just little things you can do along the way. And, of course, reaction time for special forces troops is important, as is other things that, you know, just.

Yeah, I actually want to dig into the shooting thing. Yeah, are you allowed to talk about that part? Just a second. Actually, you mentioned nutrition right before that. One thing that I thought was really interesting was for the nutrition program, cooking is also a part of it. We've talked about this on the show many times where it's hard to have an in-depth knowledge of nutrition

and be able to apply that knowledge if you don't know how to cook and if you don't know how to cook and make good food taste good enough to want to continue to eat for your entire life so you guys have like a cooking side of the nutrition program which i thought was very unique so i i i don't touch curriculum so you guys know that i don't have the authority to do that as a president so we're building a cooking lab in our human performance um center over here we we had one in our brain center at walter reed state-of-the-art uh cooking center for teaching anti-inflammatory cooking to patients so um what what happens in in the uh the master's degree they they teach the head knowledge but we also want to give them practical knowledge

william lee who's one of our speakers at our seminars, we have probably the largest, we have a seminar component, 10,000 people a year come to our seminars. We've had Michael Phelps and Cal Ripken and many other scientists. Then we have scientists that come. So I'll usually get the best of all time in something. And then New York Times-selling author william lee has he he talks about gut health but his speciality as a phd and a researcher employee from harvard is to make healthy eating delicious he he shares it in such a way that he's like man i

i can't wait to go eat delicious food and you can eat delicious food that's that's healthy yeah and we want to show that in our our that over there and that will be we'll probably have that in our in our master's degree if they choose to put it there but we're certainly going to put it on our youtube channel for our patients yeah it's this is how you prepare a meal so that you're not you're not going to be obese that you can eat food that's going to heal you. Your food should be your medicine. Yeah. I don't use the word medicine very often, but it should be what makes you healthy. Absolutely. Let's talk about the shooting. Oh, yeah. Yeah. This was a very cool part of your presentation yesterday. Oh, yeah. So we'd like to have an interactive shooting gallery up there. One of the things we had at Walter Reed was we had all the intrinsic weapons from like a

Marine Corps or Special Ops you know unit so some people have whether you get post-traumatic stress if you want to go and talk to that so and post-traumatic stress we don't use the word disorder because it's not it's naturally a defense mechanism so if we were here a thousand years ago, we were a tribe of Native Americans hunting buffalo and a herd of wolves decided we were

their food source and we're having to fight them off. Well, we're going to have, you know, hyper-perturbability, you'd be hyper-aggressive, combatant,

easily aroused from sleep, combatant, irritable, all these things that, you know, we ascribe to post-traumatic stress are actually beneficial when you're fighting off wolves. When they leave you, you go back to the baseline. So in wartime, somebody gets post-traumatic stress, it's good to be hyper-aggressive and easily aroused and combatant and aggressive. So what happens, we found that there's a spot in life where you only have so much tolerance for that, and then you can't come back or it's hard to come back. And like Special Forces troops early on, they were doing six-month rotations coming back. And then other troops would go for 13 months, and they were getting it where the Special Forces troops weren't.

And if you went over, maybe you're a single parent, and you're behind on your bills, and you have three kids, and you're trying to get them to your former spouses, and then you get over, very little bit of a threshold required to put you into PTSD. And then we have people come back, and they can't turn it off. And so when they, you know, the only time they feel normal is downrange. So they go back over there and they're normal. And so you have people who've gone downrange 10 times. It's the only time they're normal is there and they can't come back.

And that has nothing to do with shooting, but it's, you know, so what we're after is looking at PTS and trying to bring them back, the things you can do to mitigate that. But we have weapons and simulators in Walter Reed with pneumatics, so if you're firing the hog, you're gonna feel the percussion of it, and it will put you down range. There is two schools of thought, you know, for people. Every time I think about that patrol, you know, I freak out.

And one thought, a school of thought, and I'm not a psychologist either, a psychiatrist, put you back in the sandbox, go out there, shoot. And we had, so you take them out shooting virtually, you know, in this lab, this computerized lab on the basement at the hospital, and you actually put them back in the patrol and have them come, you know in this this lab is computerized lab on the basement at the hospital and you actually put them back in the patrol and have them come you know and you have people like missing an arm who's always a sniper it's like and they feel impotent after that yeah we're gonna take you out we're gonna go shooting a sniper rifle again with that with that with your new limb and then they would take them out hunting and doing things you bow hunting, hunting, so that you get back to it.

But shooting with disability is one thing. But then also, after a brain injury, you might have an impaired far-near focus. So if you're a quarterback, you might be looking for your receiver and then looking far and then looking at the defensive line coming at you for near focus you're going back and forth you need to have that that really quick ability to from near to far well for for an operator you see a bad guy you have to focus on your front sight and put it on top of them real fast so far near far near we can measure that far near focus how fast you can do it and improve it in fact there's an optimal a uh up i think it's

optometrist or ophthalmologist that can predict batting averages on potential pro ball players based upon his ability to look at them with a vng or a right eye um device where they can look at that like they can tell you you'll you you don't have the ability to be a professional baseball player based on that yeah the uh i can't remember if it was in golf or in baseball but i heard that people are it was almost like taking performance enhancing drugs but with their eyes going and getting lasik surgery even if they were 2020 so they could see the seams better read greens better like well baseball i think it's 2015 is the hour is is like the average eyesight for a professional baseball player yeah going into it yeah so it's like eyesight for

baseball is like really big yeah and i heard also and i don't know if this is 100 accurate but like an extremely high percentage maybe every like batting player and in big league baseball can wink both eyes with efficiency because they don't have a dominant eye so they can see the ball come through the zone without losing the left eye to right eye whatever their dominant eye would be. That's crazy.

Yeah, they're all freaks. Everybody thinks, oh, I could be a pro baseball player. It's like you only need to have a million different things be born with them. But all those little stats are super interesting. We see somebody who trains, and they might be in college, and they're really good in college,

but they've maximized near 100% of the capacity. And they go forward, and they go to the pros, and they just get to do it. And then somebody else here, they haven't gotten near their capacity. And the coach can identify that. Okay, you're going to go to the minor leagues for a few years, but you've got the capacity, if you apply yourself, to do great things. There's a higher threshold.

The upside hasn't been reached yet. With this new performance center, is that going to be something where you're going to have the ability to bring in pro teams and do testing with pro teams or anything similar to that? We're inventing it. I've got the vision. What we're going to do is we're going to have an off-site, bring everybody to the head shed.

Here's what I've got. I come from hyperbarics and a military background, so here's my love. i've got you know i i come from hyper barracks and in military background so here's my love is is that where we should go should we go to you know we have a the indoor shooting range we're going to put over over there like for testing reaction time shoot no shoot um i'm tending more towards towards uh special spec i was gonna say toward navy seals with that with that one, like shooting and diving. Yeah, that's kind of, you know, and altitude, too. And I have a son who's a Green Beret as well.

He's in that, you know, high-altitude parachuting, you know, from five miles up and shooting, shooting, shooting, being able to, and also language skills. I mean, these guys are, you know, you go every time, these Navy SEALs, but there's a wide variety of special skills required for many things. And my background is marine reconnaissance where, you know, we'll do a, you know, a seven mile swim in a night, you know, by time. If you're going to do an insert extract in the same night, you're gassed. And then do your operations ashore.

So you have to be able to do what you do well even after you've swam three and a half miles um being able to you know and do it well with precision i i like that if the sports teams want to come here we have we do have some interaction with some professional athletes um everybody's fighting for that. Um, you know, as I'm, I'm here to invent or to educate those for a future that's yet to be invented. So my big deal is if we put this over here and for training people, um, you,

you guys are being around for a world that's yet to be invented. And, um, I need to prepare with people to understand that. And part of it is removing the scales from their eyes so they can interact with each other. And it's not like I stay, you know, know so that you i can bring it this far but i need you to go to the next level or i don't have the ability to do strength training like you do but this person

needs this or or whatever your speciality is that you're able to do it so bring i'll bring it it's we're going to train people over there hopefully we'll we'll attract people but it's no guarantee because everybody's fighting for professional teams it seems like you had a great budget for this plenty of space everything's brand new and modern was there anything where this the budget didn't allow for you didn't have the space for or you shouldn't have anyone around that had the expertise to do xyz thing where there's where there's something you wish you had but it's just not it just wasn't in the cards for this round. For this building that we built here and the new build that I showed you yesterday.

Yeah. So what we had was a tornado hit us five years ago. This building was a pile of rubble. I lost eight buildings. God gave us a reset and a $50 million- Rebuild fund. million rebuild fund. Yeah. So it was basically, halfway through my presidency, what would you do?

And we literally went around to the newly built schools, best technology they were doing, and improved on it. Yeah. But with our projection, we were still growing by 11% while we were standing on a pile of rubble here. This building was gone. This other than just the sticks. We were we had movie studios offered to pay us to do post-apocalyptic movies on this campus. So that's the state of things. I said no, because I shouldn't be saying this on this interview but yeah because the rebuild um you know and with it but we've kept the trajectory

growing because of that because we were able to as you do build it people are attracted to it the rebirth the rebirth the phoenix um yeah just in being here yesterday and seeing, it's like you go to school, you do cool things, schools have cool things. And then 20 years later, you've just been working. And you don't see like where all the technology and everything is at. So yesterday I was like, oh, wow, this is how kids learn these days. This is insane. Yeah. And you guys haven't even built the new space yet.

So it's very cool to be able to see where the field is at and how you're integrating this into. I feel like they start from such a different place than pre-internet when I started coaching people, essentially. It's speed learning. Yeah. You have all this here, and the concepts in here, too. As you've been approached over here,

you're learning anatomy, virtual reality goggles. And, oh, yeah, there's this high-def table and ultrasound and dissection. I'd love to dig into the virtual reality side of things. So for rehab, it's actually we're using it for teaching but also rehab. So are you familiar with mirror therapy for amputees? No. No, go ahead. Anything I say is probably not accurate,

so I'll just... I just want to make something up real quick. I feel like it's like you don't have a right arm, but you're doing things with your left arm to get transfer to the other side type of thing. What do you mean? I thought it was for like phantom leg. Yeah, phantom limb pain.

Yeah. So most people lose a limb, they'll have phantom limb pain. I wouldn't have sounded like an idiot. Oh, no, no. Just sort of. The audience is used to that part. Sort of.

Well, even people born without a limb sometimes will have phantom limb pain. People who've had hysterectomies can have phantom pain. Oh, wow. So we discovered at the hospital, Dr. Ramachandran from University of San Diego is a person who really established this. And he's spoken for our neurology seminars. But you've got real estate assigned in your homunculus to that extremity. So all of a sudden, that arm's gone. Your brain's sending efferent impulses down to that arm.

It's not getting the efferent impulses back. So nature pours a vacuum. And that portion of your brain needs stimulus. So if it doesn't have it, it'll create its own. That's phantom limb pain. Some types of tinnitus are phantom limb pain. Not all types, but hearing loss. You're exposed to a loud explosion.

That part of your brain that wants to hear that frequency will make its own frequency. So what we found is you put a... This is from Dr. Ramachandran's work from University of San Diego. And we subsequently did this at Walter Reed. You put, if they have a good limb, they'll look at that in the mirror. And so it looks like they have two limbs. We manipulate it. You touch it.

You stroke with feathers, different things. And it starts working the the neural matrix and the phantom limb pain decreases or gets resolved in 30 days 15 minutes a day gotcha so i hear phantom limb pain too is like excruciating it can be like it's it's not just like oh my leg hurts and it's not there it can be like a very traumatic thing yes it can be. And you can actually use virtual reality goggles instead of the mirror. Like if you're missing both arms

or both hands, and we can actually put biomes or even surface electrodes on your extremity or even higher up so that your brain is putting impulses through there. And if I was missing my hand and

you put biomes around my my forearm you could pick it up and they could i could actually see my my hand moving with the virtual reality goggles and it's not even there and if you wanted i've got a lecture i just did on this showing this and at walter e across the hallway from me for years they were working this out they would have somebody with biomes put in their arm. And they would, as they move it, there'd be a hand on the computer screen. And they would program it until it matched what this person was doing. And then they, you know, I'd go by a few months later. They'd have a bionic hand sitting there.

This guy's got a hand. And they'd program it to mirror what he's doing. And go by a few months later there's a guy missing a hand with a bionic hand and he's manipulating it it's go ahead moving just like that so i almost have to ask about the knurling thing then and that elon's oh you just gave me a look of that oh no yeah yeah great no i'm ahead. No. I'm as surface-level knowledge of – No. But it sounds like a very similar thing for people that have paralysis

or can't move from neck down, but they go and put Neuralink into their brain in that portion of the brain that controls that motor pattern, and they can, like, move the mouse on a computer. There's one person now. Rogan had him on his show. They can talk through a computer because now they're able to

find specific parts of the brain to fire to those extremities or to the computer to be able to actually give them some sort of movement back either through a computer or to the computer to be able to actually give them some sort of like movement back, um, either through a computer or, um,

this is likely where I'm going to tail off and not know how it works. Um, but it, yeah. Well, there's, there's amazing things out there. And again,

I'm not a neuroscientist. I'm not a neurologist. I have a hundred people on campus who know with all the way you have my students in here, probably 2,300 people who know more about science than I do, about neuroscience. But there's some amazing things that are doing that they've done. They've done things where they've put pads on people's, you know, for large parts of their body who can't see. Stimulations on there.

And they're actually able to evoke, you know, some type of vision. And it stimulates the portion of the brain associated with vision so that stuff is way over my head and obviously but i do as i tail off when i hit the end of my knowledge base there i don't i don't pretend to have too much knowledge that i you know i just find that i do know you can use virtual reality goggles for rehab yeah um somebody with with Yeah. Somebody with chronic regional pain syndrome, if somebody with reactive arthritis, we've been successful with that. Other problems, other neurological pain syndromes have been successful with that as well as an amputation. Yeah. Let's talk about the teaching side of things. Are most of the kids in school here or are they remote?

So the kids, we like to call them students. I call myself a kid. I call 40 year olds kids all the time. So we have 2,300 students total. Of those, we probably have 1,600 or 1,700 here. We call them students. I probably should, too. Yes, yes. Well, you guys are kids to me. Yeah, right? But, yeah, so with it, a lot of it's virtual.

They have like a neuro program is online with the option for a clinical rotation because we want to make sure you're doing the stuff. And certain things you have to do in person. You have to do it in person. There are certain things that are better taught online. I'm convinced radiology, you can teach that faster online. I know you can. Histology, when I went through, how many hours did I need to learn, did I need to be

staining, putting gram stains on slides and focus on a microscope rather than just flipping through it? Microbiologists don't do that anymore. Why should my students do that? So histology, embryology, things like that,

better online. Anything manual, probably better to do in person. For, probably better to do in person. For sure, better to do in person. And you've seen what we have is technology with fourth-place technology to speed up the process. For the programs that are hybrid, I tell my team that if we're going to have a hybrid program, I want the hands-on portion to be more than other programs' hands-on program they're here they're if you're here you're all here you're gonna yeah the dummies that you have up in the uh chiropractic thing so and and the force plates in there so you can uh the amount of pressure that they're doing for the manipulations um for the for our home

audience he he meant mannequins not really dum dummies. But our mannequins up there, we've got plenty of dummies. I'm the dummy on campus. But the mannequins, you can actually feel the pressure, even the slightest pressure. And they really have an ability to learn the subtleties of that. Yeah. If more people want to learn about the school, where do they go? Parker.edu. There it is.

We have 34 different majors. Virtually all of them are focused around human performance and enhancing health. In fact, we have a Venn diagram we draw. Satisfaction with the career, good return on their investment, good pay. Where that links up, it's a given. There's one major we looked at. It was, what was it? Nuclear medicine. Yeah, nuclear medicine. So basically, it's an 18-month program. I think they were getting $90,000 a year starting pay, but you're giving poison to people who are dying.

And we didn't think that fit with our mission. So we chose not to, even though it was really for the amount of education, it's a really good return, job satisfaction but really being able to come into a school like this and like learn a craft that then you can go out into the world um and and fit right in and have a a good skill set versus like anders varner general uh business degree did not teach me how to run a business at all. We have business degrees based on healthcare businesses here too, but we also have technical degrees, diagnostic culture, sound, massage therapy, occupational therapy assistant, and I say red tech already.

So we have technical programs here too. And then we have step-up programs that you get that, and then we'll give you a bridge to your bachelor's and master's degree. Parker.edu? Affirmative. Nicole Race, where can the people find you? Nicole underscore race underscore, that's Instagram. There it is, Doug Larson.

There you go, I'm on Instagram, Doug Larson. Yo, this is phenomenal. Like the tour from yesterday and then just hanging out today while Dan and Andy are doing their seminar. Like this university and everything that you're building here Yo, this is phenomenal. The tour from yesterday and just hanging out today while Dan and Andy are doing their seminar. This university and everything that you're building here really is like the future of health education. So very impressive and very interesting to be here to see it all. So thank you for having us.

Thanks for being here. I feel like we'll be back many times. You will see us a lot. To come back when we have this new building built, you'll be impressed. We certainly will. Absolutely. I'm Anders Varner at Anders Varner, and we are barbell shrugged barbell underscore shrugged and make sure you get over to rapidhealthreport.com that's where dr andy galpin is doing a free video on the three-step process we use to unlock your true physiological potential essentially how we

make the best in the world better and you can access that free video over at rapidhealthreport.com friends we'll see you guys next week