Barbell Shrugged - Real Chalk  — Performance Hacks w/ Ryan & Yaya  — 34

Episode Date: July 31, 2018

This is a special episode, where Ryan and Yaya cover performance hacks on Ryan’s couch after they have done a sensory, deprivation float at FloatEasy in Orange County, CA.   Every day is a new opportunity to have the perfect day, and even though we might fail every day, it is the perfect opportunity to implement to strategies and tweaks the next day.   In this episode, Ryan and Yaya dive into different “bio-hacks” or simple methods they have tested and implemented their our own lives. They also go into different morning routines, psychedelics, what your favorite top performers are taking daily, other conspiracy theories, and more.   Enjoy!   – Ryan and Yaya   ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/rc_performancehacks ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please Support our Sponsor Use code  REALCHALK for 20% off at organifishop.com    ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/ barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

Hey there ladies and gentlemen, this is Doug from Barbell Shrugged. I just want to let you know that we now offer 11 of our top training programs as a part of a single membership site that we're calling the Program Vault. We used to launch training programs every few months and people were always bummed that they couldn't sign up at any time. You had to be around for the launch. The launch was only four or five days. If you missed it, then you had to wait six months or a year depending on what training program we were offering next.

And it was kind of a hassle, even when people signed up for training programs, to switch to a different program when they got to the end of their current program, or they just happened to be in a new phase of training. They hit their past goal, and now they have new goals, and new goals require different training programs. So inevitably, it was a pain in the ass for people to switch programs. So we took all that feedback, and we decided to just put all of our programs together on this thing we now call the Program Vault.

That way all Shrugged athletes can have access to all the workouts that we have and move from program to program as they saw fit for themselves. Makes sense. So there's 11 programs. Three of them are long-term, very comprehensive programs where there's a warm-up and there's mobility and there's nutrition added in there. All the workouts are there. There's a cool-down. There's stuff to do on your off days. They're super, super comprehensive. And those programs last for over 18 months if you want to stick around for that long. And there's also eight short-term programs. These programs are three months long and these are basically add-on programs. So if you are already doing classes at a gym and you don't want to stop doing your classes but you want to work on one particular thing maybe you want to

like work on your shoulder health or you want to work on your conditioning like your your aerobic capacity or maybe you just want to work on your squatting strength or your pull-up strength or something like that then we have these short-term add-on programs that are super low volume but they're just like an extra you know two or three exercises at the end of your workout to help work on whatever those very specific goals are that you have so the three long-term programs are flight weightlifting that's a very weightlifting specific training program it builds it builds you from someone who's more like beginner intermediate at weightlifting and builds you up to be a more technical professional professional-style weightlifter over the course of 12 or 18 months. We also have Muscle Gain Challenge.

If you just want to put on muscle mass and you want a higher volume training program, this, in my opinion, is more of an intermediate program. If you don't have good technique on the Olympic lifts yet, you're going to kind of be thrown right to the wolves, so to speak. It doesn't ramp you up like flight does flight has very specific progressions for weightlifting to let you learn all the technique over time muscle gain challenge kind of just throws you right into it so ideally you already have some experience with olympic weightlifting before you start the muscle gain challenge

and there's a very high emphasis of course with the muscle gain challenge on gaining muscle so that means you got to eat a lot of food so there's a lot of emphasis, of course, with the Muscle Gain Challenge on gaining muscle. So that means you've got to eat a lot of food. So there's a lot of emphasis on how much to eat, what to eat, and your recovery as a part of that program. So that way you can get bigger and stronger. Also, we have Strug Strength Challenge, which is more of a traditional kind of CrossFit program. If you do CrossFit classes at a CrossFit gym, you probably do some strength movements at the very beginning of class. You know, maybe do front squats for five sets of five. and then you do a Metcon that's, you know, 20 or 25 minutes or whatever it happens to be. That's more typical of the shrugged strength

challenge where strength is the goal, but certainly conditioning is a key part of that as well. It has more of a strength bias than kind of a regular generalized CrossFit-y type program. So the eight short-term training programs, again, these are about three months long, and they're kind of an add-on program. So the first one is Boulders for Shoulders. That's a shoulder health and stability program, health, mobility, and stability program. That doesn't mean you're going to be doing a whole lot of jerks and overhead presses necessarily. This is, again, an add-on program, so you're going to be doing a lot of of jerks and overhead presses necessarily this is again an add-on program so you're gonna be doing a lot of assistance work

for your shoulders your thoracic spine uh etc that way you can have the healthiest shoulders possible there's the aerobic monster program which is adding in a bunch of extra mostly aerobic conditioning you'll be on the airdyne a lot you're going to be on the rower a lot you're going to be doing a lot of monostructural stuff so So, you know, if you already have your regular workout, you do strength, you do your Metcon, and then, you know, as a very overly simplistic example, you do, you know, 20 minutes of rowing, or you do 30 on 30 off for 10 rounds, or you're doing a hard 30 and an easy 30, or whatever it is, just a little bit extra aerobic work. There's the squat the house program where, you know where we add in two leg exercises three days a week. So you might squat and then do some lunges or something like that.

Depending on what your regular classes are like, you might already be doing a lot of squatting. But if you're not currently able to do a lot of squatting and you want to do some more squatting and you just want to add that onto your current training, then Squat the House is a great program. Anaerobic Assault, that is a high- a high intensity interval style program where you're doing very fast Metcons. So you might be doing airdyne sprints, you know, 30 seconds on 100% full speed and then take a three minute break and do it again. Or even, you know, five touch and go deadlifts followed by, you know, 10 burpees, rest two minutes and then do it again. But you're doing it all 100% full speed, really teaching you how to kick it into high gear and move very very quickly when you're doing your metcons there's

my first pull-up which is not going to give you a whole lot of actually doing pull-ups these are this is a program for people that can't do a pull-up yet so there's a lot of assistance work for pull-ups and there's a lot of extra assistance work for just all the muscle groups involved in doing pull-ups everything from just doing extra lat work, extra scapular retraction, rhomboid lower trap work, extra bicep work, etc. To help get you to the point where you can do your first pull-up. There's a strongman accessory program where you can be doing yoke walks, picking up stones, pulling heavy sleds, and things like that. And then there's two more programs that are kind of a little bit higher volume. You could do them on your own if you wanted to.

And you also can combine these. You could do Aerobic Monster and Aerobic Assault and My First Pull-Up all together if you wanted to, if you just wanted to add extra volume. But the last two, Open Prep is exactly what it sounds like. This gets you ready for the CrossFit Open or other similar competitions. You'll be doing a lot of Metcons. And the last one is Barbell Beginner to Meet. It's prepping you for your first Olympic weightlifting competition.

Each program is scheduled between three and five days per week. There's videos explaining all the programming. There's demos. There's technique explanations for everything. And then also you have access to the private Strug Collective Facebook group. That way you can get advice from ourselves. We'll be in there hanging out. Our guests from our shows.

We also have a bunch of athletes, coaches, and strength experts that are friends of ours that are in there too to help you out. If you're interested, since I've been talking long enough, you can go to shruggedcollective.com backslash vault for all the information. Again, that is shruggedcollective.com backslash V-A-U-L-T. That spells vault. Go there, check it out. If you have any questions, email help at barbellshrugged.com and enjoy the show. Welcome to Real Chalk, a Shrugged Collective production. Mike Bledsoe here.

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Go to thrivemarket.com slash realchalk to get set up. Enjoy the show. Mahalo, my dudes and dudettes. Coming at you here live from Real Chalk headquarters in Newport california got uh the beautiful sun shining down it cooled down a little bit since that last episode so perfect podcast conditions for you guys and i'm actually super excited to bring you guys this oh totally forgot this is yaya you guys are tuned in to the shrugug Collective and this is the Real Chalk Podcast coming right at you. Super pumped to bring you this episode because this kind of took us back to the roots.

No guests this time, just good old fish and me. I actually love doing this because this is how we originally started the podcast. When we first started the podcast, it was just kind of an idea to answer some common questions that we kept getting in the gym. And then we would just refer people to the podcast instead. Honestly, we had no idea that so many people would love it and would ever grow to this. But when we first started, it was just Fish and I, the laptop, and a simple microphone in his living room, propped up on his couch and him and I were just having super genuine back and forth conversations and that's exactly what this is. We finally had

time to sit down just him and I and just chat about a lot of stuff that we've experienced over the past few weeks and months with this podcast. We've traveled a lot, we've met a lot of people and there are just a few things that everybody that we talk to or at least the majority of people that we talk to have in common it does ranges from meditation practices to just gratefulness practices all the way to biohacks or simple methods that they implement into their life to make their everyday life just a little bit easier and that plays right into kind of where this podcast is going for us now it's been a few implement into their life to make their everyday life just a little bit easier. And that plays right into kind of where this podcast is going for us now.

It's been a few months now that we joined the collective and we kind of see it now going as we just want to be able to take every day and make it the best perfect day. Best perfect is redundant. So let's just go with perfect day. That's what I wanted to say anyway. So every day is a new opportunity to have the perfect day. The beautiful thing is that you're probably going to fail every single day. There's going to be one thing or two things that aren't quite going to work, but the next morning you're going to wake up and you get an opportunity to just try it all over again with new strategies and new tweaks. And that's exactly what we're

trying to tweak out in this podcast, talking to all these top performers all over the world and trying to bring you their strategies because they've wrestled with this for years and years and years. So they already know what has worked for them and what has not worked for them. Now, Ryan and I have been talking to so many people that we've been doing the same thing. We're trying things, seeing what works, seeing what doesn't work, and we're bringing you exactly that on this podcast. So we recorded this episode actually right after a sensory deprivation float at Float Easy here in Costa Mesa, California. If you guys are looking for a float tank, that is definitely going to be the place to go. Super cool experience.

And we were super zenned out, obviously obviously recording this podcast right after that float we get into morning routines something that Ryan and I have been playing with is the cold shower and the Wim Hof breathing talk a lot about psychedelics what other stuff your favorite top performers might be taking and just other conspiracy theories

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Like I said, also check out their green juice, their red juice, their crown pleat protein, all that stuff. Now 20% off with the code REALCHOC. The human torch was denied a bank loan. And the ability to purchase checks. Okay. Or write a check because he would burn the check all right that's better right there okay all right here we go second try take two here we go um so we're back we haven't done this in a while just fish and i on the couch on the couch this is how it all started right here guys you guys are getting a little flashback to the beginning of Real Chalk. We've had a lot of guests on the show lately, and one topic that always seems to come up is just kind of mindfulness and gratitude and anything to boost productivity from a morning routine to a nighttime routine.

And Fish and I kind of wanted to get to the bottom of that, and we actually went to a float tank, fish yesterday, meet today. One of the things that was suggested to us from some of the listeners, so we wanted to try it out for ourselves, and then we decided to just do a podcast on that and all other techniques that might increase mindfulness, gratefulness, and just general just happiness. Or even performance enhancement. Right. I want to go into some performance enhancement as well. Or even stuff that could make you a better athlete.

Exactly. In the long run. I'm really excited about that. What's going to be great about this show right now is that everything that Yannick is about to say about the float tank, I personally do not know. We haven't even remotely even talked about it with each other. I did it yesterday, and he did it today. There's also something I'm going to talk about later that he has absolutely no idea about. So this is going to be an exciting show, and everything that we say is going to be the first time that either one of us has heard about it.

So that's going to be cool. Just a straight-up candid conversation, just so you're liking it. So should I start about mine? Yeah, dude. That's what I was thinking. All right. So I did the float tank yesterday. If you guys are not familiar with the float tank, it's basically a pod.

You go into this pod. It has 1,000 pounds of salt in it. Oh, dude. I really liked it. You can lean back with these headsets now. Yeah. It has 1,000 pounds of salt in it. So basically your body is just floating.

You literally cannot sink in the water if you tried. Maybe if you were really, really fat. Were you thinking that when you were inside of it? Dude dude right away like that was the first thing that i was thinking i was like how like i was because you're sitting in it right like you get into it you sit in it and then you're touching the ground still and then i was like kind of like fucking with the lights fucking with the music or whatever you shut it off and then i shut everything off i had just like all black no music and then i lean back and you like start floating and you're like how the fuck is this real because you felt that sensation like in the ocean before or something like that,

but you're still kind of like pedaling a little bit. But not like seriously floating. And this was like seriously straight up floating. Yeah. So first experience for me, well, first off, if you guys don't know where we're at still, you're in this tank. There is a lot of salt water in there. You cannot sink.

And basically you are closing the pod on top of you. And then when that happens you have no more senses. Hopefully you're floating in such a way that your hands and your feet are not touching the outsides of the tank. I was kind of like bouncing around. I hit my head. I hit my feet.

But you should be trying not to. And then you stabilize after a while. That takes away sense of touch. When the pod closes, you lose sense of where you are. You lose the light. Sight, obviously, sense of sight is gone. No hearing. Yeah, there's no hearing because you have earplugs in.

Pretty much everything is gone. You're basically on the fucking moon for all you know. Now it's step two is to get comfortable and try to just, you know, get into the meditative state, which is takes just a few minutes because the first thing that happens in that I thought was really, really cool. Well, first off, I thought that we could wear like a bathing suit. Yeah. So I showed up with a bathing suit, which was not appropriate. Apparently apparently just going naked that's the way to go um i still thought about the bathing suit for some reason when i got there and then when i got in there butt naked i was like oh this is insane yeah your legs just automatically spread open your arms automatically spread open

your package is just dangling dangling and i And I just felt like, yeah, like I'm a fucking porn star right now. It's pretty cool. And I found that for the most comfortable part for me was my hands over my head. I did that too. You told me that. So I was laying with my hands by my side first. And then in the instructional video, they were saying that you're really supposed to relax your head because I guess your brain isn't used to floating like that. So it's automatic.

You want to try and like hold your face up like that. So I did the whole every time you breathe out, kind of let your neck fall, let your head fall, fall, fall a little bit more. And I got into that state, but my neck still felt like – I always felt like I was overextending. I was too far back. You tried the pillow? I didn't try the pillow.

Oh, the pillow legit. But then you told me maybe put your hands up, and I put my hands above my head. And that was fucking fantastic, dude. That made it so much better. I think we're just also too awkward. Like, I think skinny people are probably cool with their hands by their side. Yeah, maybe. Whereas, like, this was just, like, it just, like, opened up.

Like, I felt internally rotated with my hands here. Yeah. And then I just felt like, oh. Well, but I think that's a lot of people. Like, just we're so in the frontal plane. We're always so, like, hunched forward. Everyone's sitting at a desk from a 9 to 5. And, like, everything's in front of you. Everyone's sitting at a desk from 9 to 5.

Everything's in front of you. So it just felt nice to just not have that and just be able to let everything go like that. So now you're in the tank. Honestly, I didn't do too much research on why you would go into this tank. I know that sensory deprivation, obviously you're going to go into a state of like meditative state – a state of meditative state. Like a meditation type of state. And then basically shut all your senses off and then just find yourself and find your body and find your breathing and just think about your life and try to really just appreciate an hour of fucking nothing. Right? Yeah. So that's what i'm trying to do i'm in there my eyes are shut um i'm trying to relax i finally get relaxed and then i

just like tell myself i'm like all right ryan like just fucking relax your face so my face would relax and i'd be like all right go ahead and like try to let your neck get a little looser and like that would get a little bit looser and then i'd start like purposely trying to think about things in my life which was not really the way to go like i kept searching for something in there like i felt like i just took the magic mushroom and i'm like trying to figure out a problem when in reality that's not what you should be doing at all and then second what i felt was i kept almost falling asleep and i would jolt oh yeah i didn't want to i didn't want to like do this and fall asleep that right I felt was I kept almost falling asleep and I would jolt. Oh yeah. Because I didn't want to like do this and fall asleep.

Right. That seems besides the point for me. Yeah. And then lastly, I was very like paranoid about going over my time limit. I kept thinking that like I had gone over and there's no way I still had time left. I'm like something's wrong. I've been here for too long. I felt like I still had time left. I'm like, something's wrong. I've been here for too long. I felt like I was in there for a very, very, very long time.

So before I get out of the tank and talk about my experience out of the tank, what was your experience like in the tank? So I think the main thing to point out that was different between me and you was that you were not afraid but maybe anxious to go into this thing, and I was just super-duper excited because like i've heard about it and um i've been meditating for like three four years now i've never meditated this is kind of like the meditation on steroids type of thing right because i do like 10 maybe 20 minutes max um a day and just in my room on the beach or like wherever so like the whole sensory deprivation thing is like

not not a thing, right? So this is supposed to just like amplify everything that's already going on when you're meditating. So then I got there. And to be honest with you, right as I'm about to get in the pod, I start getting anxiety. Because I start thinking about it and I was just like, wait, dude, I'm about to be in this thing for an hour. Like just me, completely dark. It was a about to be in this thing for an hour. Like just me, completely dark, know nothing for an hour. And then you start thinking about it. You're like, dude, I don't remember the last time I didn't do anything for an hour.

Like unless I'm sleeping, right? Because even if you lay on the couch, you're probably watching TV. Even if you lay on the beach, you got the beach or you got like music going on or you're talking to friends or something like there's always something like even if you're completely relaxed just like in the world that we live in nowadays there's always something to kind of like drag some attention away from you so right when i'm about to get in i'm like fuck dude an hour like that's long like what the fuck was what am i gonna do for an hour right so then um i get in that anxiety settled pretty fast like i said that whole feeling of just floating

was the first thing that i that i realized i was like this is fucking crazy like an astronaut it's just something you've i've never you've never experienced in your whole entire life so it's just like such a crazy feeling and it's just so cool. And I know in the video, the little instructional video, they were saying if you really relax, you like kind of lose sense of the water and it really feels like you're just in outer space or something like that. And as soon as you lean back, you can feel that. You're like, oh, my God, if I cannot feel the water, like really only where I could feel my water was like right around my face where it was and then kind of like where my arms and hands were like coming out. But other than that, you can't really feel the water because it's body temperature too. So it's like the same temperature in there as your body. So it's really hard to like distinguish in between the water and not water and air.

Yeah, so then lean back. And from meditating daily, I do have kind of like a routine that I do. Like I know where to start and then I know how to like kind of get deeper, deeper, deeper into relaxation. So I kind of did that exact thing. What's that look like? So start by just taking like really deep breaths in and out. Then you normalize your breathing for a little bit. And then you kind of scan throughout your entire body.

So you start top of the head and super slowly scan down. So forehead, eyebrows, nose, cheeks, lips, neck, shoulders. out your entire body so you start top of the head and super slowly scan down so forehead eyebrows nose cheeks lips neck shoulders and you kind of just like assess the situation you're not really judging what's going on you're just kind of like okay this is tight this feels funny this is that um and every and while you're doing that every time you breathe out you just kind of like try and let the tension go try the tension go it's more and more and more as much as you can um kind of like if you've ever done a rum wad or like a yin yoga session. You know what I mean?

Like every time you breathe out, you're just trying to like let go of it just a little bit more. So that's what I was doing. And then, like I said, my neck kind of started hurting a little bit because I felt like it was almost too far back. So then I put my hands over my head, which felt super nice because even when I try and do it at the beach or something like that, like on hard ground, I don't know about you, but like my shoulders are just, I don't know if it's just bad mobility or if they're just too big. Like I can't even get them there where it's comfortable. Like if I usually put my hands above my head and I have them there for a while, they start tingling like super fast and they just go dead.

And the water is super comfortable. Yeah. And the water was super comfortable. So I was like, oh yeah, I'm staying here for sure. Like this is super rad. So then got into it and then it got super weird, super fast, dude. Like I got the craziest, most real flashbacks out of the most random ass times in my life. The most, like I remembered walking home from the bus one day and listening to The Killers because a few days later I was going to a Killers concert and then going to my buddy's house.

His mom wasn't there and we were making lunch and then picking my sister up from school and then my dad and I driving to Berlin. And it was just like super fast and just like all over the place. I had like no control over it, but it was super vivid and the craziest part of that was that all those moments for some reason are all stories that i tell people now over and over again like oh yeah that one time like blah blah but i remembered so much more detail than what i usually tell in that story so that was like the first part then the second part um i tried to do what what like meditation people or whatever you want to call them they call deep work so like you can't just put a question out there you just kind of see what happens in your brain

when you put that question out there so i was just like what do you want to do what are you afraid of kind of stuff like that so that was going on i did some questions like that and then i actually got into which i didn't like some like to do stuff you know what i mean like as soon as i get out of here i gotta do this i gotta do that i gotta do this and i actually didn't do that and i'm like oh fuck i gotta i gotta stop doing that so then i stopped doing that and then it got even weirder because then i got into like a almost a hallucinating state where it felt like I was in a dream, but I could move around freely inside the dream. I wanted that so bad. And I was, like, I can do this and I can do this and I don't like this, so I'm going to go away from it. But then it got, like, super trippy where I was looking.

My eyes were closed, but I was, like, looking up and all i was seeing was like four or five faces kind of like leaning over my head so like imagine so one time um when i was playing football i like hurt my knee they took me to the hospital and nothing was actually really that wrong with my knee but they gave me like one of those little shots like in you're supposed to give yourself like in the stomach for like if you can't move your leg whatever that is like because i wasn't able to move my leg for like the next like four weeks or whatever so they had these little like shots and they were like you got to give yourself this shot like every single day like into your stomach i want that and i was like fuck off like i'm not doing it because i hate needles right so then they gave it to me and um it's supposed to

go into that little like belly fat section during During that time, I literally had like 3% body fat because I was like playing football and that's all I was doing. So they got it into the muscle instead of fat. And I passed out completely. I had like a cramp attack. And then I woke up and they were like, I was laying down and there were like five doctors like around me. So I'm looking up and I see these five faces.

So literally like as I'm laying there, that's what I'm seeing. But they're not the doctor's faces. They're like super creepy and just like the saw guy almost type of shit. And I got like so deep into that. And then I literally like jolted my way out of that. And I was like, what the fuck just happened? Yeah, I had a lot of jolts. So I didn't like that part.

That was super creepy. And then from there, it just kind of normalized a little bit. I got super horny at one point. Super horny. Yeah. And I was thinking, how many people jerk off in here? Dude, I know. I was like, honestly, I'm for sure sitting in sperm.

You have to. You have to be. Yeah, for sure. Because, I mean, if I'm going to be completely honest, I stroked it a few times. But I didn't get to that point where I had to do it, you know? Yeah. But. I'm with you, though, dude.

It's so weird that that happened to both of us. I got rock hard out of nowhere. I knew it. I was like, fuck. Like, people for sure jerk. For sure. 100%. When I got out, I actually inspected the tank for semen.

I want to bring – next time I go, I'm for sure bringing like a little pocket black light just to see how ridiculous it is. So, yeah, first tip, first handy tip if you're going into the flow tank, for sure, bring a little pocket black light first and light it down. But, yeah, so then let's go back to you. So now you're done. You're getting out of the tank i will add just one small tip um not tip but one small thing that happened to me the only time that i did actually feel any actual like discomfort or fear was when i opened my eyes and i was in the tank like knowing i was in the tank i didn't like it nearly as much as closing my eyes you would think closing your eyes would be worse. It's actually way better.

But – I want to say one thing to that too because I agree with you 100%. I probably opened my eyes for the first time after like 20 minutes in or so. Same. And then I opened it and you start realizing it. You're like, oh, fuck. I'm in this tank. Yeah, I didn't like it.

Right? I'm not like claustrophobic at all I don't think. Never mind. But I don't like tight spaces. Like I'm not a huge fan of it. It's just enough though where you kind of want to open it but i think for a second i as when i pictured it i pictured it to be a lot tighter like i think the pot is actually fucking big and there's actually

like a lot of room in there yeah i mean if you're thinking about like fish and i both laid in there and put her hands completely above her head and i was still floating left to right and not touching the wall. So this thing is like way, way bigger than what I imagined. Yeah. So getting out of the tank and actually going out of the actual store and outside into the light, that was when I was like – because even getting out and getting dressed and leaving, I was like, ah, it's okay. And then I got outside and I was like, whoa. Yeah. This is like the same feeling that I've had, ah, it was okay. And then I got outside and I was like, whoa. Yeah.

This is like the same feeling that I've had like being on mushrooms. Yeah. Like you get outside and everything is that much better. Not like being high. That's not okay. Like that's a totally different feeling. But like if you guys have ever taken mushrooms before. Like being like weed high?

I don't know. I mean there's so many different types of weed nowadays but like there's so many different types of high that's why yeah if you had a nice like happy weed I guess I I feel like 97% of the time I take paranoid weed you just happen to get the paranoid I just want to like be home by myself and not talk to anybody but um if you're on mushrooms all of a a sudden, like, green looks really cool. Like, when the trees move, it looks really cool. You appreciate the light.

You start looking at people's faces, and you're like, oh, yeah, they have a good face structure, you know? Colors in general are just super rad. And, like, I was in the ocean the other day, and you were, like, looking at the waves, and you can see, like, little drops, like, coming off the waves. Like, that was super rad as well. And we're talking about, like, microd can see like little drops like coming off the wave. Like that was super rad as well. And we're talking about like microdosing now, like not like a full dose of mushrooms.

Like just like – so they say a microdose is like one-tenth of a full dose. Which I've done both. Technically, if you're doing this correctly, you're supposed to do a full dose, figure out what a full dose is for you, and then do like one-tenth of that. That will allow you to still be functional. And I could still be having this conversation with Fish, and I would still be like aware of where I am. Your senses are just heightened, I guess. Yeah, let's get back to that later.

Yeah. So now I get out of the tank, and I probably had this feeling for a solid like three hours. I was like, not only did everything seem a lot more vivid and a lot more like real life than ever, but I really appreciated my time in the tank. And I was like, wow, everything outside of the tank is amazing. And I am really grateful to live in California and in this nice sunny place with all these nice trees and all this awesome stuff.

So that was when I was like, okay, this is pretty cool. Will I do it forever? Is it something I feel like I need to have? I don't know. When you hear these amazing experiences that people are having in the float tanks, like Joe Rogan and Tim Ferriss and all these guys, they're taking

edibles or DMT is a really big one that Joe Rogan always talks about. And then a lot of these guys are taking something and then getting in the tank and they're having like a completely different experience. For sure. To the point where Joe Rogan actually talks about he bought one. He has one in his garage. Dude, that's funny that you mentioned that because as I was in the shower,

I was looking around. I'm like, I need this in my house. Like I somehow need to become a millionaire so I can have this in my house. I just want it for naps. I feel like I can take a serious nap in that thing. It felt somehow need to become a millionaire so I can have this in my house. I just want it for naps. I feel like I can take a serious nap in that thing. It felt super futuristic

though, didn't it? Like to me it felt like if those things didn't exist, they would be like in a movie somewhere and then you would see like this person like coming out

and then you're hunting like aliens or something after that, right? It felt super like next level futuristic for sure. I mean it would be the most expensive nap tank of all time

or like masturbation chamber. Yeah, dude. Yeah, at least then you're only floating in your own semen. It's not that bad. Yeah, I mean, it could be like a sex swing as well. You just do this really cool thing. You're like, all right, girl, you're going to sign this paper and we're going to fucking Fifty Shades of Grey in this thing.

If you get a blowjob in there, that might be the most insane experience of your life. The guy was telling me people actually take their phones in there and take selfies, which I feel like ruins the entire experience. What the fuck? That's the whole point. Because then you'd have to hold your phone the whole time. There's nowhere to put it.

Exactly. Unless you take it out of the tank, I guess. Take a selfie and then put it back in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's interesting. But yeah, for me, I think I did pass out a little bit at the very end, maybe like the last 10 minutes or so, because when did the lights turn on for you? At the end, yeah, it turned, I think I did pass out a little bit at the very end, maybe, like, the last 10 minutes or so. Because when did the lights turn on for you?

At the end, yeah, it turned on. And I was like, whoa, I need to get the fuck out of here. So the lights turned on in the thing. And I was, like, super disoriented for a minute. So I don't know if I was sleeping or if I was just, like, super deep somewhere. So then I got out kind of, like, groggy, kind of, like, confused. Super groggy. If you watched my story, I literally looked like I was in bed. So then I got out kind of like groggy, kind of like confused. Super groggy.

If you watch my story, I literally looked like I was dead. Dude, I was sitting on my couch by myself. And I was laughing so loud. Like I was screaming at the top of my lungs. Because in the first video, you look completely normal. All right, here we go. All right, I'm about to go into flow tank. And the next video, dude, your face.

I went to fucking Vietnam for like. Everything's red. Your hair is like in your face i went to fucking vietnam for like everything's red your hair's like in your face you're like oh it just got done i'm like oh my god just jerked off like seven totally drained that's exactly you look like uh some high school girl off the prom night that's what you look like um so yeah i got out kind of like disoriented took the shower but i immediately just like felt that that same feeling that you have when you got out like oh my god like i feel so good and it's funny because um you mentioned the whole like got out and you had this new appreciation for life and kind of see things differently and feel things differently and i actually had that same experience just from meditation.

Now, it's not you don't meditate once for 10 minutes and then you open your eyes and, like, everything is different. But very gradually over time, if you, like, implement a meditation practice, that's kind of like the shift that I was seeing in my life. So that's actually why I liked – the main reason why I liked meditation was because in any given situation that you're in, you're able to take more from that situation you're more in the moment you're realizing the colors the trees the smells like everything is a lot more vivid to you than it was before because instead of being inside of

your head and thinking like oh my god i wonder what they're thinking i wonder what this person's doing i don't know where my girlfriend's at like all these things like all these thoughts are just popping up you're actually able to just be a lot more present just because you're able to kind of control your thoughts. So by being present, you're getting more of the experience, you know. So that's kind of like in very little doses that add up over time, it was kind of like the same experience that you had. So when I came out –

Did you realize though it's $79 for one session? Yeah, I know. But it's $100 for unlimited. Yeah, well, that's what they want. Something like that. Well, it's a subscription thing, right? People always want to sign up for a subscription. I thought that was amazing.

I was like, holy shit. And then people just don't go. Yeah. You know, that's what you want. But for sure, when I got out, I kind of felt like in those war movies when someone's like being held captive like in a cage or something like that and you come out and the sun is like super bright and like everything is like super loud. That's how it was. So like the sun is super bright. Everything is just like louder.

I think because you're like sensory deprivation, right? Like it totally makes sense. Like if you're stepping out of a dark room, your eyes kind of like adjusted to the darkness. So then it's super bright so i feel like your nose your smell like all that stuff was kind of just like turned off because your body was like okay there's nothing here we don't need it so then when you got out it was just like this flash of of life so i thought that was really cool but the one thing that i think i like the most out of everything out of all the feelings is that feeling of nothing matters

and let me explain like i don't want i don't want it to be i don't want you guys to be thinking it's like this hippie mentality of this guy who just fucking lays on the grass and like oh nothing matters i'm not gonna get a job blah blah that's not it that's not at all that's not what i'm talking about it's more talking about like those little nagging thoughts that you have those little nagging things like the person that cut you off in traffic or the instagram comment you got or all that stuff as soon as you get out of there it doesn't matter like for some reason i don't know if that's how you feel at all but for some reason this experience was so much bigger than that that you're just like i don't this doesn't matter that doesn't matter like the big't matter. Like,

the big things matter, right? You realize like, yeah, living in this place matters, my family matters, my friends matter. I got out and like,

it's not like I'm like a fucking hippie and I don't want to work anymore. Like, let's go. Like, we're sitting down and making a podcast right now. Yeah, I want straight to work.

So like, it motivates you as well, but it just, it's, I felt like those little nagging things that are just kind of like looping around in your head, they're just like on and on and on and on all the time.

They're gone. They're like just wiped out. Yeah, I didn't even think about those things at all. Yeah. So same, I guess. So I feel like that's honestly what society needs. It's like next time you want to ask for the manager or next time you want to write a fucking bad Yelp review, just get in the fucking tank for like 30 minutes, get out, and then see if that still matters to you. I actually have another thing you can say about that.

If you want to do any of those things, look in the mirror and tell yourself to go fuck yourself. Yeah, fuck yourself. Because you're a fucking douchebag. Now, with what you said about like, I don't know if I need this all the time. I don't know if I need this all the time. Yeah, I don't think so. I don't know. I kind of want to do it like a second and third time just to see how much the experience

varies from the first time because this is kind of like when you lose your virginity right it's not the best sex you've ever had but it's the best sex you've ever had all right we're moving on from the float tank. That was a solid way to end it. Let's talk about some other things. Like, honestly, I want to move on because there's no better way to end it. Let's talk about our experience in Austin, Texas, and some things that we stumbled upon that we hadn't really done before. So when we were in Texas, we had this overwhelming presence of people that were supplementing their life in one way or another. That's a nice way to put it.

And actually, before we got there, wein we are already like interested in this this movie taking your pills and the things that are going on in the movie so in the movie yeah they talk about adderall 90 of the time yeah and then 10 of the time they talk about the people in silicon valley who you know whenever you think of silicon valley you think of the richest people like ever like the highest performers and people that work like three hours, three days straight without sleeping. Yeah. They do crazy things.

So it's, you know, it's, it's a group of people that you're like, how are they like that? And why? And blah, blah, blah, blah. And how do they do it? So they talk about microdosing. So LSD and mushrooms and the microdose, which we talked about earlier is a very small dose, but you get a very small effect, which either makes you work hungry or very artistic. So when we were in Austin, everybody was talking about it.

I mean literally everybody that we interviewed, everybody who was successful, everybody that we were around, they either wanted to do it. They're like, hey, you want to do this blah blah blah or they would talk about on the podcast and then in take your pills we heard about adderall and this and that and yannick and i got our hands on some adderall took a couple phone calls we got some i had had some in college before but not studying or none of that just taking it and seeing how i could do certain things it was pretty awesome and you had it as well right you had that was the first time i've ever had like i've never that was your first time ever yeah in college like i it's funny like this whole kind of change that i'm going through right now in college i was like super against drugs mainly i think because i was an athlete so like there was always a possibility of getting drug

tested or anything like that so it was just kind of like wearing on the cautious side yeah secondly i think growing up in germany it's just not that big of a thing like drinking is just way bigger than everything else i remember like some of my friends going to music festivals and like started taking ecstasy and stuff like that and we're like you guys are idiots yeah um then i got here to college um it is california so naturally you'll start smoking weed but that's kind of like where i do it aligned into um but now since i've been like doing a podcast hanging out with more like the top performers and kind of like seeing that like everyone is doing this and like everybody's taking this it's just interesting you want to know why exactly and it's like it's like why and i think

it's a really and we've done a few of these things now and basically i think it's a really – And we've done a few of these things now. Yeah. And I think it's a really important thing. We're not like dying to do it again. Yeah. But I think it's a really important thing to point out that Fish and I are not taking drugs for the sake of taking drugs. Like we're not just like, yeah, let's take these drugs and fucking party and like I need to do more coke and blah, blah, blah and keep myself going for like three more days. It's honestly for like self-experimentation. And we literally talked about it before we even did it we're like oh we should do this and then do a podcast on it yeah so we can talk about it and like i think what's cool is that because we

aren't these type of people who do this it sounds so much more realistic for those of you who have never done it like we're just the average people giving it a go and then giving you art feedback yep so let's talk about it right now we went to austin we heard about all this shit and we're like fuck it we're doing it so we took a micro dose of mushrooms and i don't know like an hour two hours later we were like okay like 45 minutes yeah 45 minutes yeah we started walking around and like all of a sudden you're just – you're a little bit lighter. The colors are a lot more vivid. You definitely feel artistic.

Pain is gone. Oh, pain is super gone, right? Pain is gone. I think I was like jumping around and shit, which is like not likely. Yeah. We have a video of you like jumping over like a bunch of rocks like doing parkour when we're like in the domain. Yeah. And we were like this would never happen if

you never never so um i had thoughts you know of things that were not like bothering me but like it was really hard for me to find the answer to i was like fuck like i don't know the answer to this i don't know how to finish this workout in my head or like whatever like i had this planned um workouts for me guys is like you know it's my bread and butter it's what makes me successful literally and like i feel like fucking albert einstein just writing on a board sometimes just writing all these crazy fucking things and it was so much more clear to me um so i felt that and i could see how someone in silicon valley who has millions of dollars in a line for something would take something like that and be like, oh, my God, here's the answer.

So there's that. And I also feel like taking the mushrooms or psilocybin is the scientific name for it. Okay. When we did that, I also had a very similar experience as Adderall. Absolutely. Correct? Correct. I think so. We didn't get a chance to do LSD. We did want to do it, but one,

we're terrified. Two, getting the wrong source or something doesn't really... I don't want to have a real fucking trip. I just want to feel the LSD. You don't want to rush into something. We're going to do it, though. Eventually, we're going to get back to you guys. We want to be really confident you don't you don't want to rush into something just till you want to do research and you're gonna do it though eventually gonna get back to you guys but we just gotta we want to be really confident on it we'll check in with you guys um the the

mushrooms for you felt like what yeah so i still remember like we're still at the house and we went paddle boarding before that right and then we go back to the house we like got showered up and ready to go out and And we took to mushrooms. And I was sitting on my phone. I think you were in the kitchen or something doing workouts on a computer. And I was sitting on the couch editing a picture that we took at the paddleboarding thing. And, dude, I didn't even realize how into my phone I was. I remember Colton came over and he's like, dude, you've been editing a picture for like 30 minutes nonstop.

Yeah. And you like you just don't look up and you just don't get bored. And you're just like you're so whatever you're doing, that's what you're doing. Like nothing else matters. It's like a beta blocker to me more than anything else. We're just like you're focused on this task and this task and then the next task and the next task but not 7,000 things at once. Right. So then I still remember they were like, yeah, go outside like just step into the backyard so i stepped into

the backyard and immediately you just like get this rush of energy and you're just like looking at the trees and everything is just a lot more vivid and you just see everything in a lot more detail like fish earlier pointed out like green especially for some reason it's like a color that like stands out to you and it's earthy there there are all of a sudden like 50 000 different shades of green and like you can look at one tree and you see like all the different shades and all the different tones and all the different colors and it's honestly just fascinating like you're just looking at you like oh my god this is fucking amazing then it makes me think of our episode with ronnie teasdale on our old podcast real chalk when it was just us yeah and ronnie's like literally on the same couch sitting i think where

i am and he's looking outside he's like a tree is not a tree yeah and i always think that like i'm always like fuck the tree is not a fucking tree even my mom called me my mom's like ryan a tree is not a fucking tree i was like i was like i know i was like he's fucking crazy right he's like right like for my mom to even bring that up i was just like was like i know i was like he's fucking crazy right i was like he's like right like for my mom to even bring that up i was just like for sure i know it's wild like you really think about it you're like fuck yeah maybe we'll have him in another podcast oh yeah we have to for sure we were planning on it yeah definitely um so then i remember being in the car they put on music and as soon as the music started dude it felt like i was having an orgasm and i still

remember like we were in a minivan i was like in the middle seat and you were all the way in the back seat and i wanted to turn around and look at you and like tell you how i was feeling and i physically like couldn't move yeah i was just like i don't want this to end so i'm just not gonna move i'm just gonna stay right here i'm just gonna enjoy what the fuck's going on it's almost like you're drunk but when you get really drunk and you like really like it you're also sick right you hate it right except none of that is happening you're just really drunk but it's like awesome but that's the perfect segue that's the perfect segue into what i was going to say too is it's so funny to me how society kind of like picks and chooses all these different things like this

is okay this is not okay this is okay this is not okay right alcohol yep you're good to go weed for the longest time nope can't take that caffeine yep good to go um mushrooms nope can't take that and there's no real like line like why does this fall on this side what does that fall on that side right the one argument that i always make is adderall is a prescription-based drug, which, let's be honest, is super easy to obtain, right? You go to the doctor,

you fill out a form, you tell them you can't fucking focus on something. But it's meth. They just give you Adderall. That's exactly it. It's amphetamines, right? It's amphetamines. It's fucking murdering you.

Like, it's legit poison for your body. It's killing you. It might make you productive in the short run, but in the long run, there's a lot of side effects. There's a lot of damage that it does. In 15 years of studies of mushrooms, not a single side effect was ever found.

Nothing, dude. It's natural. Like, it's from the ground. It's just like fucking weed. You know what I mean? Like, no one's ever died of weed. No one's ever overdosed on weed. Well, I love the Joe Rogan podcast where he talks about people who, like, overdose on weed and they go to the hospital.

Yeah. And the doctor comes out and just gives you like a 12-pack of cookies. Have you heard this? That's awesome. He's like, dude, you're just fucking high. Yeah, you're just high. Just relax. Eat these fucking cookies and get the fuck out of here.

Dude, I got to tell a story. This is like the perfect time to tell a story. When I graduated high school and I was at that point literally just playing football. There was nothing I was doing. So I was working out in the mornings. Then I had like all day to just do nothing. And then we had meetings at nighttime. So all day we're just doing nothing.

So me and my buddy were hanging out. My parents and my sister went to Spain or something for like three weeks. It was just me and my buddy like hanging out at my house like all day every day. Working out, going home, fucking eating food, playing video games, whatever. And so he was a big pot smoker at the time. And he was like, all right, let's just smoke a little pot. So, like, I started smoking pot at that time. Just graduated high school.

Like, let's fucking rock and roll, right? Everybody does. And so we did a wake and bake one day. That's the worst for me. Smoking. Paranoid all day. Something called amnesia. Which, by the sound of it, I should have already been like, maybe

that's not the best idea ever. It's like the movie Ted. He's like, we have mind rape. Exactly. That's exactly it, dude. They're coming. They're coming. They're coming.

They're coming. And mind rape. So we smoke it. We're sitting on the couch. We just made food. We're like watching some fucking stupid TV show. i feel good like i'm super high but i feel good and all of a sudden i feel just like tingling in my feet and the tingling that goes up my calves goes into my thigh hits my stomach and then just like it's like i get punched in the face dude and i like jolt and like i felt like i blacked out for a second that's really what it felt like i'm like that was super weird like my heart's

racing at this point. My hands are cold sweats. I'm like, I didn't like that. I wonder what that was. So then it goes again and again and again. It just keeps happening. I'm like, yo, what the fuck? Dude, this is not chill.

Every time it happens, it literally feels like I'm about to pass out. I'm about to lose consciousness. I'm on the verge of losing consciousness. So at this point, there's five or six more of my friends there. They're not stoned. Just me and my buddy are stoned. And I look at my buddy. I'm like, yo, dude, I'm on, like, the verge of losing consciousness. So at this point, there's, like, five or six more of my friends there. They're not stoned. Just me and my buddy are stoned. And I look at my buddy. I'm like, yo, dude, I'm not okay.

Like, I need to go to the hospital. You have to go. He's like, shut up. Like, you're fucking fine. Like, we're not taking you to the hospital. So I'm like, all right, all right. So I'm trying to eat some food and trying to, like, get my shit together. And it's just, it's getting worse and worse and worse.

I'm just, like, I start panicking hardcore. I'm like, oh, my God, if I die right now. I'm just like, I start panicking hardcore. I'm like, oh my God, if I die right now and then like your head just starts spinning about everything and I look at my buddy and I literally like

grab his arm, dude, and I'm pleading to him and I'm like, dude, please, call an ambulance. And he just looks at me and he goes, and he just goes,

that is the last fucking thing that we're going to do right now. So then, all my friends, like I'm holding his arm like i'm grabbing like his arm like please dude like just call an ambulance dude i need to go to the hospital and then i'm literally sitting on the couch i'm like i swear to god if you don't believe me watch this and i go look i'm gonna pass out in three seconds and i go and i go three two one okay it didn't happen but at this point i'm convinced i'm dying right and then the funniest the best part of the whole story was so obviously nothing happened um i just fucking went to sleep for a long time woke up ate

some food and i was fine yeah the best part of the whole story was I didn't realize this until, like, two or three days after. Until my buddy told me. My buddy was sitting in my dad's, like, TV chair. My dad has this, like, really big chair. Okay. And he was sitting in it, resting. Like, he was sitting in it perfectly straight. Both legs side by side.

Resting both of his arms on the armrests. Okay. So, kind of like a mannequin. Like, perfectly straight. The entire time while I was tripping, he couldn't move. arms on the armrests okay so kind of like a mannequin like perfectly straight the entire time while i was tripping he couldn't move like he couldn't feel anything from the neck down so for three hours and he told me just like two or three days later he was like look i didn't want to tell you this because you were already freaking out but i physically couldn't move i was stuck to

the chair for like three hours but anyway to circle back the whole point of the story is like nothing bad ever happens from weed like it's just you're just freaking out right and mushrooms is kind of like the same thing like people put it in this category of like oh that's really bad for you but it's like no it's not maybe we're just not using it the right way maybe like maybe a microdose is the way it was always meant to be maybe like taking putting a bunch of mushrooms on a pizza and eating it and like tripping out super hard maybe that's the same thing as just shotgunning six beers at a time so this is going to be a segue into another podcast coming soon about aubrey marcus and his new book on the day and he i won't ruin this for you guys, but there is a chapter where he is talking about how we have completely ruined everything.

Like Adderall is bad because people are snorting it. Tobacco is bad because people are smoking cigarettes and doing all these crazy things. But there's different ways to use tobacco as a performance-enhancing drug, as a mindfulness, awareness type of drug. And even cocoa leaves when when you fly to Peru, you're so high in elevation when you get off the plane, he talks about how they give you cocoa leaves, and the cocoa leaves are supposed to help you recover from altitude sickness. And it gives you more oxygen consumption which could actually increase performance but there is one tenth of the cocoa leaf is made out of cocaine okay yeah

so now people are taking that one little percent and then maximizing it to the most they can and they're creating cocaine well they were just killing i think it's like 400 000 people a year or something like that yeah so they were that's what he talks about he's like cocaine was a prescription drug they were prescribing cocaine if like something was wrong with you they're like i got stomach oh here do a bunch of blow the original coca-cola actually had cocaine in it yeah um so anyway guys i don't want to go too much on that because we're going to talk about that later in a whole another episode i want to say one more thing like a little conspiracy theory that i got and um you guys can do with this

whatever you want. Here's how I kind of like look at this stuff. In the world, I feel like especially in like the Western world, there are very few selected people that kind of like control everything, right?

It's not the fucking government. It's not the president. It's like these people behind the scenes that got fucking ridiculous amounts of money. That's all it is. And they control all decisions, right?

Here's my conspiracy theory. What if they know something that we don't know? What if they know stuff like Tim Ferriss and Jim Rogan and Joe Rogan and whoever, right? That microdosing this, microdosing this. Like if I take this in the morning and this in the afternoon and this at night, I'm going to get a lot more done.

Do you think like the military implications that this could have too? Like people are taking shit in the military that you and I have never heard of right i look at like top performers like i look at everything now differently now that i know this i look at like lebron james and i wonder what the fuck that guy is on you know what i mean it's like shit that you've never even heard of because it's like completely unavailable to us so what if these people at the top right decided that look mushrooms are way too powerful. Let's just tell people they're bad and we'll just give them coffee.

This is a totally logical thing to think of. Yeah. I mean, for those of you who don't know, well, I'm sure most of you guys do, but I trained on the Olympic team for five years. And you get tested a lot. However, some people kind of get a heads up that they're going to get tested. One. Two, anyone who's ever massacred a sport in Olympic history, at least five years later, they find out that they were doing this or that.

And the entire time they were doing it, no, I've never done that in my entire life, including Lance Armstrong. Right? Except for Michael Jordan. Except for Michael Jordan. Actually, I've never done that in my entire life, including Lance Armstrong. Right? Except for Michael Jordan. Except for Michael Jordan. Actually, that's a good one. But that's a skill. That's like skill. I don't know. I feel like I'm okay with that. But like Usain Bolt,

I feel like something's going to happen. I understand he's tall. He has a bigger stride length, this, that, blah, blah, blah. Did you see that video that came up during the finals? He didn't even try to win when he really won that one goal yeah i know he stopped he's like i don't want to break the record too much he like looked back yeah when you break the record you get 100 grand right so he's like i'm just gonna do this so that i can get 100 grand again break the record again but it's like it's a joke for him exactly it's insane um did you see the video that

came up during the finals i think that was was still when the Cavaliers were playing the Rockets. And there was an interview with LeBron James after the game. Oh, and he just talked about everything. And they asked him, like, there was like a – the Rockets went on like a 17-point streak, like on a 17-point run. What happened? And they were looking for like a question, like an answer, like, oh, we kind of fell apart as a team, blah, blah, blah, with like regroup or something like that. And he just went on? He starts and he's like, well, I kicked it out to Kyle Korver.

He took a three. He missed it. Then this guy rebounded it. They pushed it down the court, passed it to this guy. He scored. I inbounded it. And, dude, just like a 10-minute scenario inside a game, he gave a play-by-play an hour and a half after the game. Like he already showered.

He's fucking dressed, ready. Like, now he's sitting at this press conference and you're asking what happened. And he just has this, like, next-level photographic memory where he can replay, like, 15-minute scenario from an in-game session. I don't know. Like, you played a bunch of sports and stuff. There's not a lot that I remember from football games because I feel like your animal brain is so turned on that everything is so instinctive and you're just kind of like acting on the spot.

But I couldn't really tell you like, oh yeah, this guy was coming from my left, so that's why I took a step to the right. Like everything is so fast. We played different sports, but I remember quite a bit of mine. So I was just like, I was watching that and my first thought was,

what the fuck is that guy on? I don't disagree though. I i mean i feel like the top performers they either i mean yes they have great genetics and this and that but if you're if even if i was the best in the world at something i'd still want to be better for sure and when you're best in the world at something you have access to more money for sure you have access to more money. For sure. You have access to better people. You have better connections in general. Yeah. When I was on the Olympic team, it was very aware to me that I could spend $15,000 and have someone make me a drug that was non-detectable. That was something I could do if I had 15 grand. That's a real thing.

You could pay someone to look at the ban list and, all right, well, all these chemicals are here and I'm just going to change this molecule and this and that and blah, blah, blah. And now all of a sudden you have this thing called the Balco scandal, which is with Victor Conti. And he created everything for Marion Jones and Justin Gatlin. And he says that I think 80% to 90% of baseball players are on drugs is what he was saying. He's like baseball is the dirtiest sport of all time. There's even things tracing back to Babe Ruth, certain types of tobacco that he was smoking

and different things that they considered so performance enhancing that it definitely had a role to play in his home runs. Dude, Adrian Peterson tore his ACL, MCL, everything, fucked up his entire knee in the last game of the season. Six months later, comes back, almost breaks the NFL Russian record. Get the fuck out. No way, dude. Kobe Bryant in his second to last season,

I don't know exactly how old he was, mid-30s, somewhere around there, tears his Achilles. That's a year. Achilles, dude. That's a year. Three months, dude. That's a year. Three months later, he's playing NBA basketball again. Yeah. Dude, there's people, like, for real, average Joes, that tear their Achilles and they never walk again.

Like, that's a real thing. They just don't recover well and they're fucked. Yeah. Three months. Three months. And it's like, okay, get the fuck out of here. Like, that's not a natural progression at all. And now imagine giving that to someone healthy

yeah right so that's that that could be like lebron james or i don't know who else is winning everything nowadays oh we have you know we have crossfit people yeah i'm not gonna say any names but um still not enough money in crossfit either to like there's not really enough i mean it's getting there though like if you are someone like froning or Frazier, you're making some millions for sure. I mean Frazier has made a million bucks for sure already. He's won three times. That's $250 a pop. All the sponsorships.

Yeah. Well, he's made well over a million. Yeah, you're definitely getting there, 100%. And if you're not cheating, you're not trying. I feel like everybody, no matter what, no matter how loyal you are or whatever, you just want to be the best. And even if you're not thinking about doing something, you're going to do some research on it and just wonder about it. And you're going to have that little inkling in there. You're going to think about it. Sherepova, the tennis player, Marina Sherepova or whatever,

who makes those amazing fucking noises. Ah! Ah! I don't even know if anybody cares anymore about her tennis. They just want to hear her fucking moan the whole time. So she was apparently taking some drug. Did you hear about this? This is amazing. She was taking a drug that no one ever even heard of,

and it was for like asthma or something. But if you didn't have asthma, the effects it was giving you in your aerobic capacity was like out of control. To the point where like they came out and said she was taking this for the last 15 years. And what it actually does to your body. They were like, wow wow like people are blown away like you go on google and you try to buy this stuff and it's gone yeah like everywhere like every bulgarian pharmacy every american thing like any if it was in something it's gone i mean like sold out everywhere everybody's like damn i want that like that's the normal yeah you know reaction

i feel like to a lot of these things. Well, and the thing to me is just like the way I see it is if – When I heard about – Even if we go away from sports now, right? If we go back to like Joe Rogan or Tim Ferriss or something like that, if people, top performers in the world are taking stuff to help them get more done in their day, then why the fuck should I not take it you know they already have more money to have more resources to have more this they don't like i can't let them have

another edge you know what i mean like you you need to kind of keep up with these people at some point and if you can do it in a way where it's not harming your body and secondly as a graphic designer no one's gonna drug test me right if i want to take shrooms because that makes my designs better, then yeah, dude, fucking go for it, dude. And it's your body. And I think that's the biggest thing to me. One, it's your body, so you should be able to just experiment with it and go with it.

And I think if it can be done in a healthy way, in example, microdosing mushrooms, then it should be available. You should be able to do that as a choice. Have you seen the movie Bigger, Stronger, Faster? Yeah. The documentary? Yeah.

I hope some of you guys listening have seen that movie as well. There is a point in the movie. Actually, there's several points in the movie, but this one particular point, he's reading side effects, and he's like, hair loss, you could go blind, diarrhea, this, that, blah, blah, blah, blah, and you could die. Literally all these fucking side effects. You're like, holy fucking shit. You think it's some sort of steroid, and he shows – he turns the paper around.

It says vitamin C on it. And he's like, steroids are saving people, right? They're saving people's lives. Like I have AIDS, and I'm losing T cells, and losing red blood cell count, and losing muscle mass. Like I have a muscle-wasting disease, and you're giving me a steroid to increase all of that so that I'm normal. Now I'm normal, and I take that, and I have more of it.

Is it necessarily unhealthy? No. But taking anything in excess, Adderall, mushrooms, tobacco, vitamin C, any of these things in excess, for sure, you're going to fuck yourself up. You drink beer in excess, you're going to fuck yourself up.

You're going to die. If I eat too many eggs, no one is allowed around me because they're going to die from my fucking horrific farts. You know what I mean? There's a consequence to every single thing. You could actually die from drinking too much water.

You can drink five gallons of water a day and be dead. That's fucking ridiculous. Yeah. Right? And I think it's just – it comes down to abuse, right? It's steroid abuse. It's drug abuse. Abuse.

It's alcohol abuse. But that doesn't mean that just because you can abuse a drug that that automatically makes it bad. Well, another thing that's happening too is people are dying, right? Yeah. Some guy commits suicide. It was steroids. Some guy gets a brain tumor. Yeah.

Oh, I shouldn't have took steroids fucking 35 years ago. Yeah. It's like, dude, you got a fucking brain tumor. Like how many fucking burgers do you eat in and out? Yeah. How many of those animals had fucking brain tumors before you ate that shitty quality meat? You know what I mean? There's more to it.

There's more to it. I mean, like, what was his family like? What were the family genes like? There's so many things going on. Well, and it's just like, I feel like especially nowadays with the internet, with this, like, there's so many resources available to you that even if you decide to do steroids, if you decide to do this, there is a way to do it in a controlled fashion. 100%. There's so much research out there. There's so much just contacts.

And some people actually need it. Yeah, for sure. And there's – look, you don't need to look like Arnold in his prime, right? But if you want to fucking have a six-pack and have a big chest and look good when you take your shirt off in front of your wife or your girlfriend or whatever dude more power to you go for it you know what i mean and i think there's there's ways to take mushrooms in a very controlled fashion there's ways to take steroids in a very controlled fashion i heard a study the other day that actually people who have one to three drinks a week of alcohol are healthier than the people who don't ever have a drink i haven't heard that about and like beer but with wine.

Yeah, but so the wine thing is like it's a chemical type of thing and we debunk that, right? We have our alcohol podcast. The one thing they said was it's just stress. That's all it is. The people who like – the majority of the people, right? I mean there's people like you who like that's your life and you're totally okay with that.

But there's a lot of people who like they don't drink and they don't do this, they don't do that. And it's like it stresses them the fuck out. You know, it's like – But I have things that I do that I think de-stress me. Yeah. I have a scoop of peanut butter and jelly at night and it's fucking amazing. There you go. So like – but you were –

I'm like, oh, yeah. You are also very aware of your body. You're also very aware of like, okay, this is working, this isn't working. This is helping me. This is making me feel like shit. And the majority of people doesn't have that you know what i mean so it's just like just listen to your body and let it do what it wants to do and if you want to have a beer have a beer if you want to smoke a joint smoke a joint if you want to fucking dabble in mushrooms go for

it that doesn't mean that you need to have seven beers a night or that you fucking need to show everybody you can take the biggest bong rip of your life or that you fucking throw a bunch of mushrooms on a pizza and go for it. You know? I think it's an experience, just like the float tank, right? The float tank is like meditation on steroids. If you want to fucking go for the mushrooms, do it, dude. Experience it. It's just they call it a trip for a reason, right?

It's actually like a trip. It's like going to Italy and seeing what the fuck is going on over there and then coming back. So mushrooms is the same thing i feel like the the main reason why i started experimenting with stuff is because i feel like this is the age to do it now i don't have kids i don't really have any real responsibilities right so yeah let's fucking try this shit out so that when i get older i can be like i tried that i tried this i tried that and it's cool i didn't like this, I like that, and then you're good. It's just like a story to tell, and it's an experience to have.

Oh, wow, we're almost an hour in already. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. I think that I actually feel like, honestly, to not try everything is kind of, what is the word? I feel like you're doing yourself a disservice by not trying it. Yeah, it's a waste. Like, why not now? Yeah, exactly.

You know what I mean? Like, fuck it. What's the worst thing that's going to happen from trying it once, you know? Just like the first time that you tried sushi, you were probably like, oh, raw fish? Like, how the fuck are you supposed to eat this? I actually think I was scared of it now that I think about it. Yeah, for sure. And then you eat it, and you're like, wow, this is fucking amazing.

I want to have this every day. You know? Fucking sushi. And there's so much shit that just doesn't make sense the first time you try it and then you know no one likes coffee the first time to have it it's bitter and it's gross it doesn't taste good right but i remember i hated coffee i hated coffee dude and then i started college and i'm like i need this otherwise i'm not gonna make it ever yeah um there's one more thing that i want to add before we're done actually there's a few thing that I want to add before we're done. Actually, there's a few things that I wanted to add, but we're going to go over one more that Yannick and I have been doing for the last – well, Yannick's been doing it a lot longer than I have, but I've been doing it for about 10 days-ish.

The wake up with the cold shower and the Wim Hof breathing. Yep. So we're not going to go crazy in depth on this, but – I want to do one little segue. Oh, go for it. Go from the drugs into what we're talking about because I was thinking about this after the flow tank today I think it's

really cool to kind of see the psychedelic side see the mushrooms and just kind of have it like induced by something that you're ingesting or something that you're trying but I think it's also really cool that once you've tried that like you said when you got a flow tank it was very similar to the mushroom experience right so I think it's also really cool that once you've tried that, like you said, when you got a flow tank, it was very similar to the mushroom experience.

Right. So I think it's really cool to be able to kind of see the one side and then go on to the other side where through meditation, breathing, cold showers, whatever it is, you get yourself as close to that state as you possibly can without any abuse, without ingesting drugs, without doing anything. Right. That's kind of like the goal. So yeah, then. So throughout all these podcasts, throughout our travels, throughout all these different things, I kept hearing about the cold shower, right? And it was referenced as the cold shower.

If you guys have heard our episode with Joe D, if you've read Aubrey Marcus' book, what's it called? Own the Day. Own the Day, sorry. He talks about the cold shower as well. By the way, guys, like Ryan mentioned, we're going to do a book review. We're going to try and do that once a month now, just different book reviews for you. So below this podcast, if you guys head into the show notes, I'm going to put an Amazon link up for you guys, and then you can find Aubrey Marcus marcus's book there you can order it if you guys have amazon

prime probably get there in like a day or two yeah from the time this episode comes out you guys probably have like two or three weeks ish somewhere around there until the book review episode drops so if you guys want to like read ahead or read along or kind of like have the book ready to go as you listen to the episodes that link is going to be in the show notes yeah and then we can just hang out and talk about the book yeah um it makes us smarter it makes you smarter gives us something to look forward to i like i like having the book um i'm really excited to do the book once a month and it forces us to read which is good like yeah i need to read more for sure um so he talks about the

cold shower in his book and then like once you get So he talks about the cold shower in his book. And then like once you get like more advanced with the cold shower, there comes like cold water immersion and then just some other steps basically. But a lot of these things are being combined with a breathing technique called the Wim Hof Method. If you guys have ever heard of Wim Hof, he's been on Joe Rogan. He's legitimately changing science books right now, and he's climbed Mount Everest without a shirt on. I'm going to pause right there because I want you to – I think you should say that again. I want you to take that in.

He's climbed Mount Everest without a shirt to the top. He summited, and he's also carved holes in glaciers and swam in the fucking water. They've tested his skin, and the temperature has not changed. He can wear his clothes after he gets out and dry them off on his own in the Arctic. He can change his body temperature whenever he wants. He hasn't been sick in fucking 50 years. Has had a cough in 50 years. He has no arthritis in his body or anything.

He can raise the immune system. He can shift heat to different parts of his body. He can change his body temperature. He can do all these things. And you might be thinking, all right, well, he's a fucking freak and blah, blah, blah. So let's get on with our day. No, he can teach this to other people, blah, blah, so let's get on with our day. Yeah. No.

He can teach this to other people. He has taught it to other people. He's climbed other big, huge mountains with people who have taken their shirt off. He's doing a marathon very soon in Antarctica, I think. In like crazy elevation. Yeah. And he's doing it with nothing. I think he's going butt-ass fucking naked.

Guy's a savage. So there's something to this, and I personally don't want to live without knowing what the fuck he knows. So the whole point of this podcast, the whole point of my entire fitness journey has changed as I get older, and I want to know every fucking thing that I can, and I also have injuries and I have things I want to work on. And if a breathing technique can help me feel better mentally, physically, can help me get over mental barriers such as cold water or something like that, I'm going to try it. So what I've been doing is the Wim Hof breathing method.

I'm not going to get too much into it. You guys can Google it. Wim Hof is W-I-M-H-O-F. That's it. It's two different words. That's his whole name. You can listen. He has videos on YouTube on how to do the breathing. He has an app that you can download to do the breathing. Everybody fucking talks about it. So here's the deal. You wake up in the morning. You go straight to the shower. You can put it on warm for a second if you want, or you can just get in dead cold. I go like medium heat.

It's not cold. It's not hot. I sit there for like literally like 20 seconds just to get ready for the cold. I crank it all the way the fuck down and I immediately do like a couple like – and then I'm like – I start doing the actual Wim Hof breathing, which is big breath in, power breath out. And then if I focus on my breathing, the cold water is instantly not as cold. However, it is cold enough where like your sensory is on fire and you are awake, like very, very awake.

I don't sleep all that great and I still wake up 20 to 30 minutes earlier every single day just so I can do this because I'm actually excited to do it. And there's a part of it that makes me feel like I've already won something that day. Like there's a sense of accomplishment by doing it and like knowing that I took a cold shower. Like I feel like 99% of the population is just not down for that. It's the first domino, right? That's how I always look at it. It's the very first domino in your day. I feel like there are so many people that wake up senselessly, right?

Hit snooze 19 times. I fucking hate snooze. Me too. I want it, but I know that everyone's hitting it. And it bothers me because I'm like everyone else is that much weaker than I am it's actually really bad for you too if you keep hitting snooze because you put your mind in this

sleep there's basically a state that you put your body in where it doesn't really know if you're awake or not when you finally get up after sleep purgatory after having snoozed 18 times now you now you're like awake but your body – because when you wake up, there's a lot of stuff that happens, right? Your cortisol levels, like everything is kind of like starting to spike.

When you do all the snoozing stuff, you're disrupting all this because you keep waking up, keep going to sleep, keep waking up, keep going to sleep. You're dehydrated as well. Yeah. Eventually your body is just like, fuck this. So the first thing you should do is drink water. Yeah. First thing you should do is drink water. I just feel like a lot of people wake up late, brush their teeth, take a shower, head out the door, don't eat breakfast.

Rushing. Rushing, right? Stressed. With already like a pissed off expression on their face. Already stressed out. Chugging down their coffee in the morning commute. Senselessly listening to the radio. Yelling at some people in traffic.

Then they get to work they already have a bunch of work to do not chugging on their second coffee then it's lunch eating their food not chugging on their third coffee before you know it's fucking 5 p.m and their day is already over you know so i feel like and it starts again yeah and then you do it again next day and you know you get it next day and before you know it you're fucking 65 years old you're dead um with the whip you didn't really give him that much credit if you're living like that dude you're not going very far um with the wheel off if that's how i always look at it it's like it's the first domino like in the day it's

like all right i did this and it's it's it's a wake-up call it's like a slap in the face and it's it's it's such a burst of energy and it's the first thing you did then the second thing you make your bed the third thing you now you want to have a healthy breakfast right the fourth thing all right now i want to work out and it's like everything is just like falling into place just because you knocked over that first domino so sometimes that's honestly all it takes i get excited i mean i literally get excited to wake up now and take the cold shower for sure i actually get excited i feel the same way about meditation. I used to – when I started meditation, it was like a chore.

I was like, oh, I need to meditate and then fucking go out there and like sit there for 10 minutes. I'm like, all right, I'm done. I wake up and I run away. That's like the worst way to meditate I feel like. I don't meditate but I feel like that's not good. That's the worst, dude. That's the worst. I have to jerk off right now.

Yeah, exactly. And now it's honestly like a mini vacation every single morning. It's like – it's something that I get to jerk off right now yeah exactly and now it's honestly like a mini vacation every single morning it's like it's something that I get to look forward to it's something

that I get to do and I know that the way I feel before meditation the way I feel after is going to be 100% different in one way or the other

and the Wim Hof cold shower is the same way you might get in feeling one way and you get out and you're like fuck yeah I'm ready

it's really, really cool. And I highly suggest to everybody to look into Wim Hof and look into the cold shower. Combine the two together. It is a great fucking way to start your morning. It has changed my morning for me for sure. I used to have not like a routine morning, but I would either eat or not eat. It kind of depended on how I felt or what my morning was going to look like. But after this, I always feel like eating, which is kind of cool.

I wake up. The first thing I do is I drink a shit ton of water, and I put sea salt in it, Himalayan pink salt for the vitamins and the minerals. And I drink that right away i drink a whole bunch of it and then i do the wim hof in the shower and i get out and i'm hungry and i really want to eat a real meal like it's the first time ever where i'm like i'm gonna eat a legit meal and i get ready and i go to the gym and i have this girl that i train every morning and i train her and then usually i do not want to work out after that and i've been working out

like i have more energy now. It's crazy. And I really, really like it a lot. It's something that I would strongly recommend that people try. Even if you're scared to do it. Or I think you can take baby steps and maybe not go like freezing cold. Right. Totally.

But go like pretty cold. I like freezing because it's jolt. And it feels, you know, it's hard. I like when something's's jolt and it feels – it's hard. I like when something is hard. It's a slap in the face type of thing. I think what all this stuff comes down to, like everything that we – what did you say? I said that's what she said, like things are hard. What everything comes down to, everything that we talked about today.

And actually, Fish, when we were in San Francisco, Fish and I had this conversation because it's not that I don't really care about working out anymore, but I'm definitely working out less than what I used to work out. And Fish was asking me, like, why – not in a negative way at all, but he was just like, why are you doing the podcast then if you don't really care about fitness and you don't really care about this? And it's not that my overall health and my longevity has like taking over just fucking being able to squat 400 pounds and being able to snatch 300 pounds. And I just realized that a lot of things are more important. I still work out. Working out and fitness is still a huge part of my life. But through the podcast and through the people that I've met, one thing that's way more important is just optimizing my life and optimizing my day. And I think everything that we talked about today, whether it be just simple as a cold shower all the way to microdosing LSD, is just a method of optimizing your life.

And I think you need to try it out and you need to see what works for you. And as stupid as it sounds, but it's just like the Aubrey Marcus thing, it's own the day. You know what I mean? Like, that's all it is. Like, figure out how you can take, let's say you're awake for 16 hours, and figure out how you can take those 16 hours

and be the best possible version of you. And you're probably going to fail. And then you're going to try again tomorrow. And you're going to try again tomorrow. And you're going to try again tomorrow. And that's exactly where I'm at in my life and with this podcast and what Ryan and I are trying to give to you guys, where we're doing all these things and we're talking to all these people

that have been doing the 16 hours a day trying to optimize it every single day for their past 20 30 40 50 years and they might now know things that you and i don't know and that's why we're doing this to just help you and give you guys tips to, well, maybe I can drink a glass of water in the morning. And maybe that's the one dominant you guys need to actually achieve your goals, live out your dreams, and just be a happier, better person. Solid. Yeah. And I feel like if you guys don't experiment, you're just having the same day every day. Yeah, exactly.

Just try a little something fucking different. Change your fucking routine. I hate when people say that routine is like the greatest thing in the world. I think routine's fucking stupid. I think you should have a couple things that you stick to, like maybe a few things,

but not a 24-7 routine. Exactly. A 24-7 routine sounds like your life sucks. Yeah. And if you guys are doing mushrooms or if you guys are doing LSD, for sure send us like a video or something, please. Sounds like your life sucks. Yeah. And if you guys are doing mushrooms or if you guys are doing LSD. Like at this moment. For sure send us like a video or something.

Let us know. If you want an ambulance, Yannick, you can call Yannick. He'll call one for you. Yeah. Don't call an ambulance. Call me. I'll talk you out of it for sure. On top of that, guys, like I said, the book is going to be linked below.

So we're going to do that in like two or three weeks the vlog has been going up weekly on the Shrug Collective YouTube oh the vlogs are so good guys we need more of you guys to listen to them because

ridiculous things happen in the vlogs definitely so we talked about a room full of dicks yeah a cock dungeon

out in Japan a real thing not exaggerated that's what it is a real thing yeah it's real no I'm saying it's real. That's on episode three

if you guys want to go check that out. We've vlogged this entire day. We've vlogged our experience with the float tank. So if you guys actually want to see the float tank, see what that thing looks like,

see how that thing works, that's all going to be on the vlog. I'm also going to link that below. Anything else you got? No. For the record,

we did not fully jerk off in the tank. We just took a couple steps. So if you're the owner of that, No, for the record, we did not fully jerk off in the tank. We just took a couple steps. So if you're the owner of that. I think that's very important to point out. We did not ruin your flow, dude. All right.

Later. And that will wrap it up. Thank you so much for tuning in. We guys love having you here. We all see you have such a blast recording these episodes. so hopefully you guys have just as much fun listening to them and we also have a lot of fun connecting with you guys so go ahead and hit us up on instagram either at crossfit chalk at yais view for me at ryan fish for ryan or just at truck collective slide into those dms let us know what you guys think what you guys like what what you guys like, what you guys hate,

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