Barbell Shrugged - Smashing Barbells, Making Babies, and Rolling 7’s on the Come Bet with 5x CrossFit Games Athlete Cassidy Lance-Mcwherte — Barbell Shrugged #432

Episode Date: January 1, 2020

Cassidy Lance-McWherter  grew up in Salt Lake City, Utah, where she began her athletic career as a gymnast. Lance earned a Division 1 athletic scholarship to the University of Washington on the gymnastics team. After multiple knee surgeries, she transitioned from gymnastic athlete to coach. During this transition period Cassidy discovered her passion for CrossFit in Texas and decided to dedicate her life to the sport. Lance competed with the NorthWest CrossFit Team at the CrossFit Games in 2010. Lance continued her CrossFit career and competed as an individual at the South Central Regionals in 2011 and 2012. Cassidy Lance placed top 3 at Regionals and qualified to the CrossFit Games in 2013 and 2014. Cassidy now competes in the GRID League and plays for the DC Brawlers, and has recently relocated to Ocala, Florida. Lance has recently opened up her own CrossFit Gym in Orlando, Florida called Waterside CrossFit where she currently trains to qualify for the CrossFit Games. In this episode of Barbell Shrugged, Anders Varner and Doug Larson discuss:   Retiring from the sport of CrossFit The experience of having a miscarriage The mental struggles of miscarriage How to push forward with very public adversity in your personal life Where to go when it feels like there is no hope The power of relationships And more…   Cassidy Lance-Mcwherter on Instagram Anders Varner on Instagram Doug Larson on Instagram   TRAINING PROGRAMS   One Ton Strong - 8 Weeks to PR your snatch, clean, jerk, squat, deadlift, and bench press   20 REP BACK SQUAT PROGRAM - Giant Legs and a Barrell Core   One Ton Challenge    8 Week Snatch Cycle - 8 Weeks to PR you Snatch   Aerobic Monster - 12 week conditioning, long metcons, and pacing strategy   Please Support Our Sponsors “Save $20 on High Quality Sleep Aid at Momentous livemomentous.com/shrugged us code “SHRUGGED20” at checkout. US Air Force Special Operations - http://airforce.com/specialops Organifi - Save 20% using code: “Shrugged” at organifi.com/shrugged BiOptimizer - kApex www.kenergize.com/shrugged use the code “shrugged10” to save 10%         ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes at: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/bbs-lance -----------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Barbell Shrugged's Channel Here ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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I consider her to be a very good friend. She's so radical. We hung out with her at the One Tone Challenge at Mr. Olympia, and it was really interesting timing, especially where we're at today. She had just gone through her second miscarriage. Spirits were down, but we had a good time. She lifted all the weights, and we got to turn the microphones on and talk about retiring from CrossFit to have babies and start a family. What that means to her. Why it's such a difficult process having a miscarriage. And the coolest backdrop to it is that last week she just announced that she is pregnant.

She has passed through her first trimester. They're having a baby and I couldn't be happier for her and her wife. So congratulations, Cass. You're awesome. I can't wait to hang out again. And congratulations to you both. We will see you at break. We're just going to roll into the show because this is Barbell Shrugged. I'm Andrew Zarner.

That's Doug Larson. Cassie Lansford. Oh, no. Did you see that? Just like we were talking about. Cassie Lansford. The football is on the ground. You can pick it up.

Right? Yo, one thing that I was super impressed when we interviewed you at the Granite Games last year was that I did not know you were in the middle of buying or opening a new gym, and now you have three of them, and you're a CrossFit Games athlete. And any time I hear all that, because I owned two gyms at one point in time and was trying desperately to be a CrossFit Games athlete, it's so hard. Yeah. How do you keep all this stuff together? So I joke that I'm an athlete by midday, a coach by night, and then a janitor by midnight. Yes. So it's a lot of cleaning. I'm even a GC. Like like i've promoted myself i've taken down walls i built

a rig last week that was super cool my first time i built one like you know drilling into concrete like have you ever drilled in the concrete i have not it's actually really tough right to put up rigs that's the only time i've ever done it right i've done into like walls to hang weight vests and stuff yeah i never i never did that stuff when we, when we built the gyms, you're way more badass than me. I just got sick of people like waiting on people, paying them money.

I'm like, I'll just do it. Yeah. I just learned how to do it. Well, when you have three gyms actually scheduling contractors to come in, it just turns into a clusterfuck disaster and it never gets done the right way.

We were very lucky in our gym. We had an, a member that we pulled the old look if i need something done you do it and you never give me money to work out here you want your kids to come here let them come you want your wife to come here i'll personally train her but if something's broken please just fix it because i i can't think about fixing things i got fitness to worry about it's so hard. Finding good people.

How many coaches do you have at your three gyms? We have 11 coaches on staff. How much time have you spent creating systems for a coaching staff of that many people? What do you mean systems? So we have our schedules. Like if I walk into Waterside 1 and then Waterside 2 and Waterside 3, how similar and how different are they? Like how systemized is the day-to-day?

So they're all on the same system on the computer. We just switch through the gyms. And we've kind of built the gym on it. It's on Box Tribe 1, and we've built it out specifically for what I need and what the gyms need. Yeah. So all that computer, they have the same workouts throughout all three gyms. So I do programming for all three and it's the same.

Sometimes I have to switch because Windermere is a lot smaller than the other two. But otherwise, the only difference is like the community there. So each gym has its own feel. Yeah. But they have the same wood wall, same logos, same colors throughout. So it's cool. But we have events. Like this weekend, we're going rollerblading.

When was the last time you guys went rollerblading? Wow. 20 years. Yeah. How fun. Easy. Bring it back to middle school, right? People on elbow pads, 80s hairdo, rocking it.

Especially actual roller skates, not even rollerblades. If it's actual roller skates not even roller blades it's like actual roller skates i was probably like six yeah one of the members pulled out her 80s roller skates and was like we're going how much fun is that going to be but all three gyms come together for events like that and yeah it's crazy how they just feel as one how many total members do you have oh gosh like roughly over 300 450 ish it's a lot of people yeah i feel like you're talking about the culture is really really common everyone i know more than that four four four fifty ish 450 for well let's see 150 130 and then 100 so what is that 280 380 400 i feel like every person i know that started a second gym,

they said exactly what you said. Like everything can be consistent across like all the systems and all the business pieces, but you just can't keep the culture the same. Like at the first gym, it's so much fun. They're having a great time. Like they love everyone there. They want to just stay there all day and all night. And then they open a second gym,

and they're not there as much as the first gym, and then it's not quite the same culture. And they're like, oh, I thought this was going to be the same but it's not the same you just can't have it be the same and as much as you want yeah right but everyone just has its own feel yeah that happened to both of us yeah the second one totally took me like anytime i someone asks me like oh what's the thing that you don't know about opening a gym until you do it i'm like well the reason you open a gym is because you love coaching and you love helping people how much do you love toilet paper how much do you love cleaning bathrooms every time because nobody

else is gonna do that you have to clean like are you okay scrubbing toilets and everyone's like yeah i'm fine it's fine thinking that they don't ever have to do it, right? And then month three, they're like, oh, she really wants me to clean the toilet. Yeah, like every day I have to do this. I'm like, yes. They're like, I just want to coach. Yeah, that is the piece. I want to coach too. I know.

That's the piece that everybody thinks they would get into the gym ownership business. Like, I'm a great coach. I could make this work. And then it just. They don't know any of the back end. What do you do all day? This is what I get all the time. Yeah, you must just train.

Yeah, I must just train all day and work out. That's how you go to the CrossFit Games. That's how you run a business, right? Just open the doors and coach. Yeah. There's no back end. There's no billing. There's no emails.

There's none of that admin, right? What do you do all the time? Well, I have 400 of you, and each of you have an opinion. And they all text. And they all email. And they all have XYZ. Yeah. But it's okay. They'll just keep texting.

It's totally fine. Do you have three? Is there like an end goal of the number you want, or do they all just kind of like fit a flow to the business and have their place? I think as long as you can handle the management and the systems are in place, you can keep going. But once that starts failing that's when you know you have to take a step back right yeah so you have to have those systems in place so i don't think i can manage more than three myself but if i could put someone in place to help manage that then we can absolutely grow as you scaled have you noticed that

clearly you're not going to say the quality's gone to shit but have you noticed that it's like some of the things have been missing from gym one to gym three that you've had to kind of not keep the standard as high just because it's hard to scale quality like that no absolutely not i i mean yes it is very hard but we work really hard at keeping that quality up and i'm on my coaches and on even the members about the we want a high standard so we hold that no matter what i found that to be very hard as we scaled from one to two because it was just like you keep all your coaches but i can't be there and there's like a presence when the owner is in the gym that everyone's just like a little bit more at attention like all the bosses here they come to me oh cassidy's gone i can drop the dumbbells now right yeah no i'm always here look at the camera always here

how come all the dumbbells are bent oh you left yeah i do feel like all the gyms i go to where the owner is there they just they just have a little something that the the gyms where the owner isn't a part of it anymore just they just don't have it like someone asked me you know do you know any any gyms in houston or whatever city and i was like i don't just just go to the biggest gym where the where the owner is still there all day long yeah that's a good sign yeah but how do you be in three places at once no no you can't do it maybe i need to clone you put a camera up is what you do is what it sounds like you do. What's your training looking like these days?

Because you have three gyms to manage and growing. Yeah. So I try to work out. If I can get an hour in a day, an hour and a half, that's an accomplishment. So last week I worked out a lot. I just said work is going to happen later i'm working out and i worked out two hours and that was super fun back to like fitness um but it's definitely taken a step back just so i can focus on the members focus on making sure those standards

stay up yeah you're like we're like 10-15 minutes into this thing we haven't even talked about the crossfit games is that still a part of your life i think it's always going to be a part of my life time crossfit games athlete yeah um yeah do you want to go to the games this year to 2020 yeah so it's always in the back of my mind right so this year going to 2019 i coached a teen um teenager there um and it was actually really fun i've never watched a teenager compete i've never watched a master compete. I've never watched a master's compete. I've never sat in the Coliseum, either at Carson or Madison, and watched the individuals. So that was really fun to just sit back and not have any pressure. But then, of course, you always get that itch of like, oh, oh, I can do that.

Especially this year. I was like, oh, those are really good workouts for me. That would have been fun. So, yes, it's always in the back of my mind. Yeah. I made it on the CrossFit Games floor this year. She didn't. You and CT.

Me and CT. Wait, so was that six years all individual? Did you do any team in there? One-year team, 2010, and then five-year individual. I feel like everyone goes opposite. They usually go, like, all individual, and then they skip over to team. You went team first and then individual? Yeah.

Any aspirations to go back to team? You'd be a killer teammate. You just come in and play the game so well. It's super fun. You could put it out there right now, but someone's listening. Who wants to be my teammate? Who wants? I'll play.

I'll play if you need me. If you need a C plus, C minus. Get you a wig. Right? No, I'll be the guy. I was play if you need me. If you need a C plus, C minus, get your wig. Right? No, I'll be the guy. I was asked a couple times this year. Do you have any interest? Yes.

Yes. But if I'm going, like, we're doing it. We're going 100% and getting on that podium because. You don't have time to fuck around. Yeah. You don't have time. Chick's busy. Don't just show up and finish the

20th um what uh wait are we allowed to talk about what team called you or who the people are we could that you're thinking about well we could well that wouldn't be for next year but that was this past year ah well actually i don't know what we can talk about one team okay who is it so i was supposed to be in place of camille, and then they found Camille. Dude, this is so good. I thought about this. I also wondered why Jen Smith wasn't a part of the party. She was on something else, and then she just showed up at the last minute and got to go to the games.

What was that all about? I think she wanted to go individual, but I'm not quite sure on that because we were teammates in Dubai and Guadalupalooza. So I think she was trying to go. i actually i don't really know her goals yeah with three um with three gyms how are you going to be able to like attack this season because traveling and going to dubai and australia and china are you just going to wadapalooza because it's close and so i'm actually not allowed to compete right now i have put in my retirement so i have to put six months until i can compete again how how uh do you want to talk about this

i definitely want you to have a microphone to do whatever you would like to do with it and i can guide a conversation but we can make it Sure. Let's talk about why did you put in your retirement? So I promised my wife, Allison, last year that I would stop competing and so we could start a family. And that's been the goal. So I put in that after Wadapalooza, talked to Curtis from HQ, and because we have to go through a different route there's no way for me to compete and start a family um what has uh this process has not gone super easy yeah it's actually

really tough yeah yeah i mean it's always going to be tough right with a same-sex couple um i didn't know about that either oh i had no idea i'm learning so much right now i'm the same boat i didn't wake up you gotta look on instagram look here's the thing about i i i i read i read the celebrity that i don't it's so funny because some comments are like um you and your husband blah blah, blah, blah. I'm like, yeah, if you guys actually followed me. I saw you. I saw the video. And then I skimmed through the post just enough to be like, oh, man, she's having trouble.

Like, that's really tough, but I don't know all the details. So that's new to me, too. Like, what's happening in that world? Like, what's the tough part? So you're missing an ingredient, right? Totally. Yes, there missing an ingredient, right? Totally. Yes, there is an ingredient missing. So you basically go in and infertility.

And we actually started out with a really easy case, healthy, body fat's in the right position, XYZ, healthy diet, blah, blah. And we've actually turned into a really hard case. And so it's been joking that the doctors kind of pushed us off and we're like, you're easy, you'll get it. You'll, you know, we'll worry about the couples that have the infertility issues. And now we're actually in the boat where it's okay, Cassie, you actually are one of those people and missing the ingredient. So it's, it's a lot of factors that play into this.

How do you choose the ingredient? Is there like a line that's like Princeton, Gale, Law, and then like below average athlete, normal? If you could pick like the perfect person, like anyone off the street, would you? It's actually really hard right so you um you fall in love with someone and you never ask their background do you have cancer does it does alcoholism run in your family like do you have this like blah blah whatever all those things are you just find that person and then you start a family with it well when you're going through this and you already have that person and you're trying to find the ingredient, you're like, oh, I didn't even think about, oh, what's the perfect height?

Oh, what's the perfect skin color? What's the – but even detailed than that, you know, you have Alzheimer's. You have all the background information. Do you have like a list of the – We have all that information. Yeah. Do you feel like it would be easier if you didn't know these things? And you just kind of,

so most of this, um, places where you, whatever, I don't know the companies where you get the, uh, the bank, the donor.

Yeah. The bank. Thank you. I'm not like, what is it called? Sperm bank. Where you get the sperm from. They have a pretty high standard anyway, so everything's, like, good.

You just have to find the – They're running. So you have to make a – you're looking at a big list of tradeoffs, and you're like, well, this one, they've got the history of Alzheimer's. Maybe this one, they had some people who had cancer. Most of them don't, but other than that, yeah. You're comparing these, like, really tough lists. Yeah.

How do you agree on – We don't. I choose. Yeah? Yeah. How do you agree on? We don't. I choose. Yeah? Yeah. How did you choose that you were going to be the one that was going to be carrying the baby? That's a tough question. I think it's just more natural.

Yeah. For me, too. That's cool. What does that mean? Yeah. You don't have to say anything you don't want to say for the record. I'm more girly. Yeah.

That's fine. This is super interesting to me. Not only are you kind of in this position, but I feel like Alex Smith coming out has been such a cool thing. Yeah. I've never seen so much support from a community of – He was on Ellen. Did you see that?

Ellen reposted. Yeah, she reposted his stuff, right? We've interviewed Alex at the Granite Games this past year. I mean, I've talked to you as well. I'm so blind to everything going past year, like, I mean, I've talked to you as well. I'm so blind to everything going on in the world, I guess. And it's super cool that he is confident and comes out. And everybody in our community seems to be so supportive of all of it. And then now you're going through this.

And as we discussed earlier, you're like the celebrity on tv through your instagram and i try not to fill my life with all of that so i'm sorry that i'm a little behind in all this um totally fine but how how is the community of crossfit strength and conditioning kind of all been along for the ride has it has it the outpouring yeah it's actually really cool so we held off on telling anyone for a very long time even our parents and stuff um because we you know like anyone you want to surprise the family and the friends like hey we're pregnant here's a post excited and as we went it got harder and harder and i mean more medications more negative stuff everything that you go down the road like, hey, we have to pause for this. You have to fix this rubella disease that you don't have. Hey,

you, you know, we got to do another biopsy, whatever it is that keeps like holding everything up. So then we finally decided, hey, why don't we tell the world or tell Instagram that we're going through this? Maybe there's a lot of other people that we can help. I can't help people. I'm not going to the CrossFit Games this year in 2019, so, you know, we'll have a different story. And I was in awe how many people reached out and how many people supported that. how many people supported that?

How many people are going through this? I've had over 200 plus messages, Instagram messages, DMs. I've never had that before. Like people will message me 10, 15. Hey,

that's cool. Blah, blah, blah. Try this, whatever their input is. But 200 people messaging me and saying, Hey,

I've done this. You're not alone. We've gone through this. Your miracle will happen hey I've done this you're not alone we've gone through this your miracle will happen we've done seven years four years whatever it is every there's so many people that are going through it same-sex couples straight couples what do you call them yeah people who are doing it by themselves. I mean, it's just crazy. So then we're like, well, let's help people. Let's put out our journey, see how many people that we can help with. Obviously we've had a lot of negative stuff, but what are the positives and what are we learning? What are we gaining? Hey, don't do this. Try this. try this yeah uh as somebody that is in the fitness health

wellness and so educated like you are and like so in tune with your body um does this process lead you to have like almost like distrust or losing faith in like fitness or uh like the general health wellness piece of of that like i feel like the i don't know anything really about in vitro fitness and then this in vitro is not working yeah is that what you're asking no because you know the woman's body is so crazy like i had no idea what we're doing down there. Yeah. Nobody knows. Wait till the baby comes out.

Let me tell you, that shit is fucking crazy. No. Tubes clogged, uterus, whatever you want to call it, but. There's a lot going on. There's a lot going on. A lot of parts. A lot of parts. A lot of days.

Yeah. going on there's a lot going on a lot of parts a lot of parts a lot of days yeah that you have to be specific on yeah day one to day 20 yeah are you monitoring that closely every single how many months has this been good have you guys been trying since wadapalooza so february six months So February. Six months. Yeah. A whole year. Where is your, like, faith in this process now? I definitely still have it. After last negative test, it was super hard. It hit me the hardest because I think I had the highest hopes that one. We had just switched doctors, and we tried a new process, and she seemed really caring and things that we got everything right. But I guess you think that you're not the doctor is not going to get it right on the first go around.

But we're still we're still happy. We still have high hopes. So we're not going to stop until we have a little one in our arms. I know it's only been, you know, a couple months, but, I mean, it's definitely hard. I mean, you're not going to hit a 200-pound snatch on day one, right? So you have to keep working at it. You said some people reached out to you and it took them, you know, four or seven years, that type of thing? Oh, yeah.

Many people. It's good to have that perspective. Yeah. I mean, it takes a while. So we'll see. I mean, other people get pregnant super easy. And then some other people have a hard time. Before you guys started this process, was it like a, I mean, I assume you're not going into having a kid just like casually.

Like maybe, I don't know, if it happens. Yeah. But was it like a very big thing of actively going and now we're going to do this like you guys have been building up to this point of as soon as water palooza is done then we're going to yeah i mean well we started a little bit before like doing research and going to the doctors um actually back in august so it's been over a year and we actually could had a wait because we went to Jamaica for a month or we went to Jamaica for a week, our vacation, and they had the Zika virus.

So we had to wait two months. So we go back in and then the process is just long. And so we didn't really get a start until February. And then I knew I was competing. So we waited on that. We're going to take a quick break break we're getting kicked out of here right now somehow all of the all the all the meatheads that we're eating in olympia and we're gonna move all the stuff upstairs real quick so we can come back and hang out okay welcome back to barbell shark cassidy lance mcgorder doug larson we just got kicked out of the cafeteria and we're probably gonna get kicked out of here too. Yep. Nothing. We're going to get to it.

It's like a subway. Podcasting's not a crime. Subway cafeteria when it smells. We talked about the meat issue. That was like 10 times worse. Chicken nuggets plus 20 feet. How often are you traveling? Are you spending a lot of time

on the road? Not this year. Yeah. Because you're not doing the tour. Yeah. The CrossFit tour. Um, your, your training has changed a lot in the last six months.

You're not allowed to be focused on, uh, competing. So you're, you're trying to, I guess, back the fitness down a little bit, maybe not be so elite.

Yeah. Beat your body down so much. What does that look like nowadays? Um, I mean, if I can down a little bit, maybe not be so elite, beat your body down so much. What does that look like nowadays? I mean, if I can get a workout in, a lift and a workout, I'm really happy. Yeah. So I do the class wads. I follow the Waterside Elite Competitors Group. Just the intensity and everything is lower, and I'm not staying after doing all the extra accessory work, you know, fixing the lifts.

I just kind of move along. Yeah. One, two, three, get in, get done, go to work. It's like hour a day type of thing? Yeah, maybe a little longer, hour and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Because people dilly-dally.

But not two hours a day, twice a day training for the games. Correct. Correct. Very back down, like a normal person who wants to be fit. You do the strength, you do it, Matt Conyer. Do it to be healthy, move your body. You know, you're not trying to be the 10% or the 1.25%. Yeah, in the world, right?

Yeah. Do your doctors know what you do for fitness? Like, do they understand the intensity and understand the weights? One of them did, and then we switched doctors and no yeah i can see that being a weird thing where they're like what's going on are you healthy yeah and you're like do you know what i do do you know how much of a badass i mean she's definitely watched my body fat, and we've upped that just to make sure. And it's crazy because we watch Miranda and all the other, Cara, who have gotten pregnant on being, like, so low, and I know that you can.

But when you're under such a big watch with the doctors and you need to be at 19% or higher just so they feel comfortable, it's always in the back of your mind. You want to make sure that that's comfortable. Yeah. So did you have to bump your calories to get your body fat up? No, not necessarily. I actually just put a little bit more fat in,

and not working out so much has just automatically done that. Right. With as many people as you know like why why can you not find a doctor that really understands your situation i mean well i have my primary doctor and that's through study md and dr danny like totally knows that right um he knows everything but you're in a very specialized scientific method of doctors that don't, I mean, they're not everywhere. There's two clinics in Orlando.

There's one in St. Pete, you know, and it's very specialized. So they're not going to know that. They're just, they actually, they're not even doctors. They're scientists. Yeah. You know. Do they connect with your your steady md doc no no but have you asked them to no i follow up with um dr danny and he's wonderful about it

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With the pregnancy. Yeah. Like, I guess, how often are you able to have the procedure? Like, just what is it? I mean, everyone is so different. Yeah. And this time, I i mean i just finished three weeks ago so this off week was like i had a two week of testing and i got the negative so

i've had one week of being normal again um i go back on september 23rd for the next steps meeting with the doctor so but we're thinking surgery um so we'll talk about that then and then go off but right off the bat she wanted a one month break to let all the hormones and progesterone that's in my body like chill for a little bit and then we start again the next yeah because when you do, the specimen is inserted into the egg by them, right? Yeah. And then implanted into you? Yes.

So IVF is very different than IUI. IUI is just the specimen going into your body right away. Very easy. IVF is very, very difficult. So you do, it takes, like we did four months of getting to where we are now. Well, longer, but getting to implant. So month one, you're filling your body with tons of hormones, making your eggs grow to a certain size that they want.

Then they take the retrieval. They pull out those eggs. Then they freeze them. You can do a fresh transfer frozen transfer and we've done a frozen so we could genetically test these embryos or eggs to see if they're going to grow in the correct so they don't have any disorders they throw out the disorder ones and then keep the ones that grow to they call a blastocyst size.

And then those ones are frozen. So I had six of them that were good. I have two left, or four left. I used two. And with that, we know how many girls and boys we have. So you don't have to do like the gender reveal. Where are you at? How many do we have? So you can choose your gender before? Because we because we did genetic testing yeah with the chromosomes we know

what are you going with oh wow i didn't know that was a thing yeah yeah it's actually really crazy so you like exactly know what you're putting in dude that's a big decision huge it's huge what would i go uh well i have a girl and and right now, I would 100% choose another girl. Okay. I think that having a girl is a very interesting thing, especially being a guy. Yeah. And I see very good-looking girls, and there's a male alpha-ness that's like, I see that you are good-looking, and there's a thing that happens in your brain where you're like, she's hot. Yes. No, we're not talking about my daughter.

I don't look at her like she's hot. I know, but did your daughter get your blue eyes? Okay. But now that I have created and seen a baby girl, I know where all those girls came from and they're these cute little amazing little things I just want to fucking squeeze her so tight I love her so much so cute

do you have kids? I have three kids in three years all boys so now I have a one and a half year old almost three year old and a four and a half year old do you want a girl? yeah at this point I would

I would happily take a girl absolutely I definitely wanted to have at least one boy four and a half year old. Do you want a girl? Yeah. At this point I would, I would happily take a girl. Absolutely. Yeah. I, I definitely wanted to have at least one boy. Um, but I, I always wanted to have one of each gender.

That way I could have the experience of raising both a little boy and a little girl. Um, but I had three little boys and I'm totally thrilled about it. My, my little boys are awesome. Yeah. I think raising a boy and just hanging out at Doug's house, he's got three of them.

It's like, there's like a, you have like boys are built and bred to fuck shit up. Like their job is to run through the wall. And then they look back and they go, did I do it right? You're like, keep going. Like, keep running. Keep going. You have to be tougher.

So like there's like I'm allowed to just just love my daughter i don't have to be like manly or like alpha e or like i there's there's just something testosterone about having a boy where i feel like and i don't have one so i don't really know but i feel like you have one and you're like okay we have to develop some like toughness and manliness with a a girl, it's like... Are your kids tough? Are your boys tough like he's talking about? Yes! My kids are very aggressive. It's like a UFC match.

Did you teach them that? I fought MMA and did martial arts my entire life. Wrestling solves a lot of problems in my house. My wife does not deal with it very well. The physical violence part of having boys. I think that's all fantastic yeah i don't figure it out i'm so much better with in that realm than i would be if i had a little girl in my opinion like this is a whole different skill set managing um little boys they they want to they just want to move and they

want to break shit and they want to fuck. That's just how they are. I think the teenage years will be a little easier, but then it would be the opposite if I had girls. This is my projection. If I had little girls, all three of my siblings have little girls, and all those little girls, they're just so calm. They'll sit on the couch and they'll be very sweet. Mine doesn't do that.

Whatever it is. But then I feel like in the teenage years, they might have more trouble than I'm going to have with my boys. Once my boys are in the teenage years, just go to practice. Here's some money. Go do your thing. And I feel like it would be a lot easier having teenage boys than teenage girls. Okay. So I feel like I'm going to think of it now, but then later on it will be easier.

And I feel like it will flop for my brothers and my sister. Yeah. What are you going with? Are we allowed to know? So the first time, I really want a girl. We did a girl. The second time, we did a boy. We have four.

What did I say? We have three boys. I have four left. Yeah. Three boys left and one girl left. Is this total? Like this is all you got? Six shots?

Total unless we do a full embryo retrieval again. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a chance that it's just currently like where your body is at and in the future you don't have to go through? Like you didn't go to just in vitro right away right correct you went and did the first easier step did that was there any success with that like or any positive things coming out of that like i guess is there a chance after this first one's done through in vitro or wherever yeah i think once we figure out like the exact protocol for me and what

works then you pick up that exact same protocol again. Because that's your success rate. So every protocol is a little bit different. Every time we've gone, we've changed the protocol. You can't just keep doing the same because obviously that didn't take. How is your wife doing? She was actually worse than me on the first couple. And then she did better than me on this last one.

So I think it's just emotional roller coaster. She's getting used to the negative, and I'm like, not again, not again. Well, in the partnership, usually someone goes off the deep end and has a really bad one, and you're like, well, I can't go that way. We can't have two people going nuts in the house right now someone's got to be the someone's got to be the calm one that i'm on all these hormones so everything's yeah amplified more you know and it calms down has she been tested is that even a possibility that you guys have talked about yes so if we'll

go a couple more times with me and then she's actually in the process of um you guys are ready to have a kid making sure yeah look i mean we're getting old like i love my daughter 32 i don't surf as much as i used to lifting weightsifting weights is harder. A lot of time. It's a lot of time, right? It's great, though. I mean, there is like a... Did your parents ever talk about themselves? Do you ever talk about yourselves? Or what do you talk about your kids and like your experiences with them, right?

You never talk about, oh, yes, I went to the CrossFit Games and I placed 10th. To your kids, like you never have those stories with your kids. Like, looking back at your parents, they always talk about your kids. I am. So what's the important part? Yeah, well, I am beyond, beyond blown away at what my parents did for me when I was a kid. My sister and I, the amount that parents, my parents,

and a lot of people. And you now. I, yeah. Well, I'm easy. I'm only 14 months into this thing. So it's not like she's like, there's no like travel soccer team. But I'm like,

I got to go to Olympia. You fucking go kick the soccer ball all you want, but I'm going to hang out with the meatheads. Like there's none of that in our lives right now. But yeah, my parents, I mean one, I got to go to Olympia. You fucking go kick the soccer ball all you want, but I'm going to hang out with the Meatheads. There's none of that in our lives right now. But, yeah, my parents, I mean, one, my parents spent all their money to send me away to boarding school. And then while I was at boarding school,

they were driving my sister like on three hours from our home to D.C. to play on the best softball team in the country. And which then led to like division one scholarships and all that stuff. So it's super dope. But when I look at that, I'm like, what in the world were you guys thinking? But did they ever talk about themselves while they were doing that stuff for

you? I'm sure. I'm sure if they went back and told the story, it would be their story through us of sports and of like, while they were doing that stuff for you? I'm sure. I'm sure if they went back and told the story, it would be their story through us of sports and of, like. Yeah, but do you hear about their careers as a softball player or sport careers? I mean, yeah, I guess my dad played semi-pro baseball. Like, he talks about that.

Okay, all right, that's cool. Enough to know that my dad played basketball and things like that, but they're not, like, talks about that all right that's cool enough to know that my my dad yeah basketball and things like that but they're not like hammering that into my into my childhood like you know albundy style like if you're matt frazier and no but i think that the thing is so wait wait you bring this up many times like what what are you what are you ultimately trying to get to with the with the question about did your parents talk about themselves well i guess the ultimate and like answer is like your kids are so much more important than your athletic career right and all the memories that you have although you have memories of being athletic those aren't the most important memories. Your memories are daily waking up, seeing your kid walk for the first time,

growing, going on family vacations. Those are memories you're going to have forever. Not that you don't have memories of your athletic career, but that's still like an individual. That's your memory. It's not like a group of memories, a whole family memory i think that the actual um like the actual going to the crossfit games is not that important to your kids or to yourself in the grand scheme of it i think what's very important and what is the thing that lasts from your crossfit career when it means nothing

is that you actually work really really hard and your kids will see that and you teach them that and you don't even have to teach it it's just in them yeah like they know they know on day one like mom works hard mom's always at the gym mom's always the way you speak around them they can tell if you're not doing shit. Right. Like they know if you're watching TV and like your voice is just like, eh, whatever, you know, I don't really have anything going on, so it's stupid. But if every conversation you have is like this and you're talking about something that's very real to you and every conversation that you have on the

phone, you're handling business and there's like a I'm going somewhere tone to your voice. That's the part that they pick up on. I think that is the – I think that's where they, like, get their, like, tenacity from. Or that's the part that they see. It's not really, like, the outcome that they care so much about. They're way too selfish when they're kids to even know that you're their parents. They're just like, cool. I have parents. I was born with them. Whatever. But they see you do these things and see you be successful and know that you have

had success. And that's probably the most important piece of were you a CrossFit Games athlete? Yes. But who gives a shit? What really matters is they know that you work hard and chase your dreams. That was just like my dialogue right there on being a parent. That was my 14 months in dialogue like I know something. Got it all figured out. Yeah. I sound like such a douche right now because i have no clue well for

the record i have nobody has a clue yeah whether they've been doing it for one year 10 years if i believe in that everyone's just doing that it should be true it should be it should be somewhat legitimate um well what's the future for crossword Waterside? Let's talk about this. Oh. I don't know. Gotcha. When you say, I don't know. What is the future?

Yeah. What does that look like? Does that mean, like, the community grows stronger, we have more members, we open another gym, we do more events? What does that mean? Like, what is the future? Well, why don't we break it down into individual pieces then? Do you see more locations coming in the future?

Not right now. Yeah, it's too much. Not right now. Not even too much, but it's a good number. When you think about the total number of athletes that you would like to be coaching, where is that sweet spot in your brain competitive athletes oh no or members people that pay bills huge difference it would be really cool for all the gyms to be above 180 on the members nice all can you do that in the release in the

small location if you're smart about the really in the small location? If you're smart about the classes, we would have to just have more classes. We've capped it at 12 people per class. But if we could pull then, you know, the 10 a.m. The nooners, even a late night, maybe even start earlier at three thirty instead of four thirty and then go later at seven thirty. But you get in the mix of you have the parents. They want to go home with the kids. After work, that is late for them. So we'd have to play around with what kind of members come in, right?

Is your partner in on the gym thing with you? Do you guys run them together? She has a full-time job of her own. She helps me. She's my handywoman. So she helps me knock shit down and hangs shit up we have to do this today hey we need a new toilet handle you know that's what we do together i could probably use her i don't do much of that stuff i'm learning how to do it we have towels at two of the locations

stop it what a bougie little spot you got all All these sweaty angels all over. Wipe your stuff down, people. Well, we're in Florida. It's super hot and humid. Brutal. In the summer, you can wring your shirt out. It's so hot. Yeah. We're not too far off from that in Memphis and Raleigh, North Carolina.

It's humid as fuck where we live. North Carolina's humid. Wait, where are you at? In Florida again? Orlando. Dude. Orlando's the best. Wait, where are you at? In Florida again? Orlando. Dude. Orlando's the best. Yeah.

We should go hang out. You guys are welcome anytime. Yeah. Is this process that you're going through, is this like an all-consuming thing that has taken over the conversation in your house and become like a distraction in a way from like the gym and no no it's just um sometimes really hard because um i have so many appointments like one day or one week i had to go in eight days straight in a row and so it's an hour drive there that they're never on time

so it's an hour there and then an hour drive to the gym so that itself is like three hours out of the day think of what you can accomplish in three hours and sit down this podcast is only 45 minutes you got two more hours of that do you want to go we can do it find out everything right we'll talk about anything you want you'll be the host by the end i'm out of things to say so i mean it is time consuming but it hasn't taken over we're really good about our schedules and making everything balanced so when we're with the appointments like we're focused on that when we're at the gym we're focused on the members when we're at home we're focused on the relationship and that stuff so is it stressful on the relationship i imagine a lot of people say

um it's torn their relationship apart or it's super hard but no not for us we've we're really good at communicating ali's really makes me communicate and i'm not the best communicator about my feelings so she really makes me communicate so it's good that we have like tough conversations and making sure we're on the same page with everything so um no it's not hard yeah you have to work at it all marriages right you have to work out all relationships i'll save myself from sometimes going on my diatribe about making marriages work because I'm in that one too. Sometimes it's really hard.

Sometimes it's really hard. Sometimes it's really easy. It's people. Just trying to figure it out. We act like we know. I don't. I just know it was all much easier before I had three kids in three years. Yeah, there's a lot of things.

Marriage was really easy until I had kids. Yeah. It just adds another person to hang out. Now you've got four relationships in the house. Even more than that, actually. It's like the relationship between mom and daughter. Yeah, all of them. It just triples everything.

Well, what's happening for you? Is there any athletic endeavors coming into the 2020 season? Are you going to really make a push? Well, after this one-ton challenge. This was the highlight, really, of the year, right? I feel like my lifts, they need to get back to where they were. So we're pushing to do that first.

How close were they to what you think about as being like your normal numbers today? So I clean and jerk 215 and my PR is 247. So what percentage is that? Yeah, 85 is 90. Yeah, that was on all of them, I think about 80%. Yeah, yeah. So. Yeah, that was on all of them, I think, about 80%. Yeah, yeah. So, a lot of work. Just more mentally checking in, getting angry.

But I actually cannot compete until I put my, until I call HQ and say, hey, I'm coming out of retirement. Oh, this is because they can't test you. Correct. Oh, you're on all the drugs. I mean, if you want to. You're on the drugs. Now we get it. If you want to say, like, estrogen and progesterone is a drug.

I didn't even understand when you said I've officially retired what that meant until 50 minutes later. There you go. Did you get that? No, that's not what I thought she was talking about right at first. Yeah, I thought you just, like. Yeah, so I'm off the drug testing list right now. I mean, that's not what I thought she was talking about right at first. Yeah, I thought you just like drug testing. Yeah, so I'm off the drug testing list right now.

I mean, it's honestly like crazy. I'm not faster. I'm not stronger. Well, the estrogen one wouldn't get you there, right? Right. The estrogen one would beef you up a little, wouldn't it? No, it doesn't. Well, actually, it makes me really hard to breathe.

No, like put more weight on. Yeah, I'matter i'm like eight pounds ten pounds heavier right this does not help you does anyone you would want to go the other way you would want testosterone so why can't i compete if it makes me worse oh because i'm actually breathing harder right i go outside i'm like panting in a workout everyone looks at me like are you okay because i might be wrong in this but after you get off of testosterone your estrogen goes up really high right and that is like an indicator of being on drugs so they put well yes or they take estrogen to bring your testosterone down. Yeah. So they do it. So that's why they would test you.

It's not like estrogen is the one you want. Estrogen is the result of taking the one. Yeah, there has been people that have ruined it for us. And it's really crazy because I understand that we're following NCAA rules, but I'm 31. Like, I am not a college athlete. Like, I already did call. I went to Division I and competed on a gymnastics scholarship. Like, I've not a college athlete. Like, I already did call. I went to Division I and competed on a gymnastics scholarship. Like, I've already passed all of those tests, right? I followed all of NCAA protocol.

And as an 18-year-old, you shouldn't be getting pregnant. You are there. The school is paying you to do your job. CrossFit's not paying me to do a job, right? My sponsors are paying me to do your job. CrossFit's not paying me to do a job, right? My sponsors are paying me to do my job, but CrossFit's not. So why are they following NCAA rules? I get it. They have to follow a protocol,

but there should be some exceptions as a 31-year-old trying to have a family. So, no, I cannot do both. And until I put – I can't do the open so telling my 400 members at my gyms like well why aren't you doing the open would you talk about this why can't I do the open yeah like how am I supposed to tell all my members how am I supposed to get them to sign sign up if I can't if I'm not doing it well you I mean technically or just in as a message to your gym both well you can technically sign your gym gyms up no my gyms can no my I'm saying how can I tell Susie and Bob to sign up for open because. But they're like, well, Cassidy, you're not doing the Open, so why am I doing it? I didn't even know that.

I feel like you should be, and I don't know the rules, but I feel like it would make sense that you can do the Open. Because you qualify out of that, and I can't be drug tested. Yeah, I know, but you just can't qualify, but you can still go do it, can't you? You can still sign up. I can do the workouts. I cannot sign up. They won't take your $ qualify, but you can still go do it. You can still sign up. I can do the workouts. I cannot sign up. They won't take your $20.

I don't think they want it. Just take the $20. Yeah. You can just put a fake name in there. That seems like the most ridiculous thing. I thought about that. So someone changed their name last year. I was like, hey, maybe I can do that so I can just like.

I registered as a girl one year. Just get your times on the board. I just wanted to see if I could make regionals as a girl, and it wasn't even close. I got smashed. Brittany Stevens crushed me. I was like, I can't even go to regionals. I have three-quarters the weight anymore.

Wait, that doesn't – there's been a lot of – so have you had any – maybe not pushback, but any of your sponsors? Has that been a weird scenario really now that you're not competing yeah i was really honest with all of them i just um up front right at the beginning i was like hey i'm not competing this year this is what's going on a lot of them were really supportive but then a lot were like hey you're not competing like we've got to pull back we'll still give you product or whatever but we can't't. I think that's super fucked up. So.

I think it's really, really strange, especially now that I've seen my wife go through the pregnancy that like, in a way, there's this natural thing in which your career is legitimately hindered because you don't get to go practice for the nine months that you're pregnant. Or the four months after where you're healing and nursing and you're awake for 24 hours a day. There's an entire year of growth and development that, in a way, you don't have in that process. I think it's really brutal when I hear sponsors not allowing that to happen and you're not out on the floor how are they supposed to get yeah but there's a relationship piece to that and i'm not a sponsor so i don't know if i'm really the answer is you're 100 right in my opinion that yes you're not competing for them anymore, but I feel like there's a responsibility that you should not be hindered

just because you're the gender that has to go birth the child. I would be fucking pissed. My husband doesn't have to go do this, so why would i be just i'm the only one that can't why why would i be hindered why would my career be hindered when you only have a short window to do it anyways um i don't know i just don't think that's right who was it recently that brought this up um about their sponsors i can't remember which. That stayed with them. Yeah. It was Annie.

And then Noon. None. How do you say it? Noon. N-U-N. Noon. Noon. Which makes noises into microphones now.

They put in her contract that if she did get pregnant, then they would still support her. Yeah. It was a big story recently. Cool. Do you remember what a big story recently. Cool. Do you remember what sponsors those were? That one. The new nun. Wait, that was the name of the company?

N-U-U-N. It's like the droplet you put in your water. It's like the electrolyte thing. I thought you were talking about her last name. Annie Thor's daughter. The company is... Nun. Noon. Whatever it is. Glad we got to the bottom of that. talking about her last name no yeah i guess annie thor's daughter the company is gotcha none noon whatever it is glad we got to the bottom of that that was so stressful trying to get on the same

page on my communication skills because no the whole podcast you haven't been hearing like we've had a great go back and me explain everything again so i really need to focus on my explanation skills i a hundred percent of the time when things like this happen, I know it's my fault. Man, she owned it though. Yeah. Extreme ownership over here. She took all the responsibility onto herself.

You know, she's... And then you did too. Look at you guys. You guys are role models. Here's the thing. Cassie Lance, McWhorter and I had a moment last night

where we fucking lit it up on the craft table. Oh my God, it was awesome. And then you blew it up, Blackjack. I did. I didn't know. We should have walked away. That's how they...

I don't know. Yeah. This dude just came over. We're just wearing these just because. This dude just came over and was like yelling. I don't know what he was saying. We have headphones on. I can't hear him.

Something about a magazine. Waving them off like, go away. Yeah, we lit it up last night. That was like one of the most fun nights. Actually, we came back. You know, I won $100 and I lost it on Blackjack because you kept wanting to bet. I lost $40. I actually lost $100 too.

In retrospect, moving on to Blackjack was not the move. We all were like tripling our money playing craps for like an hour and a half to losing it all like i have a problem you looked at me you're sitting next to me you looked over me after like three hands and you were like i don't want to do this anymore the lady told us all of our money's gone i'm not uh folding or what's the it's cold she's not busting yeah she's not busting. Yeah, she's not busting. She's like, I'm not busting. You want to go to a different table.

You don't want to play here. I'm like, oh. One of my biggest problems in life sometimes is I just want to keep having all the fun. I should have just gone home. I should have just gone home.

No, stayed at craps. I think everybody was done with craps though. I don't think so. I was loving it. We're going to go back tonight. Where do you want to go tonight? Where are we going to go? Well, let's not go to Planet Hollywood because I feel like the casino

isn't as jamming as some of theirs. So Cosmo, but we've got to figure out one that actually plays out. Well, I guess it's craps. So if we're playing craps, it doesn't have to play out like the slots, right? I had... But Cosmo is a really cool vibe. Let's do that.

Cosmo it is. Write that down. Or Aria. Aria is good. Aria is dope. That's where all the cool kids hang out right now. Last night I had an absolutely phenomenal time. We won some money on the craps table.

We gave it all back. That's how they build these big casinos. People giving it back. I still took away $40. Oh, damn. I went down was down 40 so you give me 20 we'll call it even right um and um but i was so excited we left and we were talking about how much fun we had hanging out with you and i was like i bet that this was the most fun night of all time like it was for me because i haven't been to Vegas in, like, forever

and walked away and been like, this was radical. I'm a pretty fun person. There's so many people. So dirty. I'm just kidding. The strip. But it was so much fun last night. And I was thinking, I bet Cassie had the best time ever.

You don't have anybody around. You don't have your gyms. You don't have anything. You're just here to lift weights. This random vacation that on Monday you weren't even going to have. I can't believe y'all listened to me to go play craps. I'm like, no, we're gambling. On Tuesday you were crying on Instagram. On Wednesday

you probably got your shit together. On Thursday you were in Vegas. And on Friday we lit it the fuck up on a craps table. Best night ever. What a week. Roll the dice again. Let's go. The go back kid we're going to the cosmo tonight um hey this is really cool i'm glad we got to do this i'm glad i got your name right what's your name by the way don't worry about it don't worry about it do you follow me on instagram

you don't have an instagram are you kidding me me? I'm just kidding. I know. Actually, I figured out you run the one-time challenge page. That's me. And so I was like, who's running this? Who's messaging me on Instagram today? Well, I'll follow you now. I think I just started this week when I found out we were going to be hanging out. I want to do some intel. Where can people find you?

Oh, wait a second. You have online programs now, too, for moms. I'm starting it. I saw that. So it's been in the process for a long time, actually. And I've kind of been waiting a while. Yeah. Because I wanted to get pregnant first to go through that journey together.

But now everyone knows this journey. And I've changed my workouts to tailor towards this yeah let's put it out there it's going to launch on october 1st is it online moms um yes through sugar wad oh sweet so you can go to uh waterside elite and then there's four different tracks gymnastics our competitors program weightlifting and then now fit moms uh oh so it's gonna be like part of your gym program? Is that a membership thing through you? Online, yeah. So not just like a 12-week program or a nine-month program?

No, every day for 30 minutes. It's, well, three times a week, 30 minutes. I saw you doing the lunges on the camera. I like it. Where can people learn about that program? SugarWad. Oh, I don't know anything about SugarWad either. Outside of that, it's a massive, massive platform where they deliver programming. But I didn't know you got it to SugarWad. Oh, I don't know anything about Sugar Wad either. It's a massive, massive platform where they deliver programming.

I didn't know you got it through Sugar Wad. Yeah, you go on sugarwad.com. You find Waterside Elite. Do they pay you? Yeah, who pays me? The people. Like if I'm a mom and I want to take your, or do I pay Sugar Wad and just get access to yours? They pay through Sugar Wad and then that gets linked to my bank account.

Nice. So I do, yes. Cool. So that's on SugarWad? SugarWad, yeah. That's called Fit Moms. Fit Moms, yeah. Fit Moms.

Where do they find you specifically to reach out? At CrossFit Waterside. I'm always there all the time. I'm just kidding. Instagram is Cass underscore Lance McWhorter. This is the hardest. Most people are so excited to tell their Instagram handle, and I'm just prying it out of you right now.

Cassie Lance McWhorter. It's on Instagram. Just follow. That's what we wanted. Yeah, just follow. You had to say the name, though. Doug Larson. There you go.

Don't make me work so hard. What's your Instagram? I'm always so easy. I'm the last one. That's how this goes. I am the host. You're about to witness the end of the show. Yes.

He says, Doug Larson, I'm looking to find you. I said, you can find me on Instagram at Douglas C. Larson. Then? I say, I'm Anders Varner at Anders Varner at Shrug Collective because we're the Shrug Collective at the One Ton Challenge where we snatch clean jerk squat deadlift and bent our weight at 2,000 or 1,200 pounds and test the lifelong pursuit of fitness you need to up the 1,200 you didn't even let me finish you didn't even let me finish get over to the one-time challenge.com what should i do up the women's they all beat it by easy. Normal people, the guys destroy 2,000 pounds.

1,350 at least for the one ton challenge. That would be a weird ton. You would be like all the foreigners are like, it's a ton. T-O-N-N-E. It's 2,240. Foreigners, get in pounds. It's not kilos.

OneTonChallenge.com. We'll see you guys next week. Shrugged family, that's a wrap. Crushed it. Cassidy Lance McBorder. So happy for her and her family. Life is so cool. We do the show. She's upset. Then we post it. She's happy. Baby coming.

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