Barbell Shrugged - Stronger Experts - How the Best Athletes in the World Win w/ Phillippe Tremblay and Jae Edwards, Anders Varner, and Doug Larson - Barbell Shrugged

Episode Date: August 21, 2019

Phillippe Tremblay is the owner of Stronger Experts. Jae Edwards is the owner of of Spry Training Systems in Kingston Jamaica. Together, through a rare work trip to Westside Barbell, combined forces to create the fastest humans in the world. Their impact is more than athlete development. They are empowering the youth of today with the tools they need to make it in strength and conditioning. In this episode, the Shrugged crew digs into the vision of Stronger Experts, finding the fastest athletes in the world, Yohan Blake, and more. Minute Breakdown: 1-10 Increasing resources for young athletes in Jamaica 11-20 Why Jae believes you have to lead through education 21-30 Creating Spry Training Systems 31-40 Bringing strength and conditioning to Track and Field in Jamaica 41-50 Taking a long term approach to athlete development 51-60 Youth development and strength for younger athletes 61-70 - Sport psychology and how the best in the world win Connect with Phillipe Tremble Connect with Jae Edwards Anders Varner on Instagram Doug Larson on Instagram Please Support Our Sponsors Savage Barbell Apparel - Save 25% on your first order using the code “SHRUGGED” Organifi - Save 20% using code: “Shrugged” at organifi.com/shrugged WHOOP - Save $30 on 12 or 18 month membership plan using code “SHRUGGED” at checkout One Ton Challenge  Find your 1rm in the snatch, clean, jerk, squat, dead, bench.  Add them up to find your One Ton Total.  The goal is 2,000 pounds for men and 1,200 for women.  “What is the One Ton Challenge” “How Strong is Strong Enough” “How do I Start the One Ton Challenge”

Shrugged Family, the FitAid One Ton Challenge Live, event number two. I've been waiting all week. I've been waiting since the CrossFit Games to talk about this. We've been building it. FitAid's in. We're going to Mr. Olympia. Mr. Olympia, home of the biggest bodybuilders in the world. We're bringing the One Ton Challenge.

Snatch, clean, jerk, squat, dead bench. The biggest, strongest, coolest kids in all of the land so excited so excited we're gonna be at the fit aid booth the fit aid one ton challenge live event number two who would have thought this thing was going to explode the way it is everybody that's submitting their videos online i'm I have like a backlog of one-ton challenge videos right now the freaks are out the monsters are lifting so much weight I can't even believe it right now I just saw like a 2300 total get posted in 37 seconds it's so much weight it's so much strong people and not only that we just launched round two of the One Ton Challenge strength program.

We've got all the people in there trying to get to 2,000 pounds. So get over to OneTonChallenge.com. All the things you need to know about Olympia. Everything you need to know about the strength program. Put your PRs on the leaderboard. OneTonChallenge.com. We're hanging out with Jay Spry. Phillip Tremblay.

Stronger experts. And Jay Spry, Philip Tremblay, Stronger Experts, and Jay Spry from Spry Training Systems. I'm going to get that right. Spry Training Systems. We met up with them down in Jamaica a couple of months back. And Jay Spry is the trainer

that got Johan Blake back to healthy after he tore his hamstring straight off the bone. Not only that, he's doing crazy cool work with the kids and the track stars down in Jamaica and it's just a really, really cool

project. Philip Tremblay, owner of Stronger Experts, is the center of getting all the best strength coaches together into one platform. So you know that the information that they're putting out is backed by science and just, he's an incredible human. He's like, he has like the biggest network in the world.

Every time I talk to him, he's like off to Finland, off to Jamaica in Canada. There's just the guys everywhere. They've got a podcast. So make sure you check out everystrongerexperts.com. And we are also going to be in Tahoe for the Spartan World Championships. I have partnered up. We have partnered up with the Spartan Up podcast. And we are going to be running the PodFest, MediaFest.

I don't know. We're bringing all the podcasters out. So if you have a podcast, please hit me up at the DMs at Anders Varner. I want to talk to you. We're inviting hundreds of podcasters out there to create content all weekend. We've got some really cool panels that we're going to be running.

And man, it's just going to be an epic weekend and we get to run the race, the Spartan World Championship race. So if you're into OCR, if you're into hanging out with podcasters, if you're into doing all the podcasting things, make sure you get out there. I'm going to be hosting the event with Spartan Up Podcast and the Spartan World Championships in Tahoe at the end of September.

So 26, 27, 28, get to Tahoe. Hit me up in the DMs if you have any questions, at Anders Varner. I want to thank our sponsor, Savage Barbell. Look, the official apparel sponsor of the One Ton Challenge. There's a reason that we partnered with them. They have the same vision that we have. We needed a dope barbell company with apparel that's comfortable, that's cool, that's built for weightlifters. That's what we needed.

Savage Barbell enters our life because that's the way the universe works. I can't wait to grow the One Ton Challenge with them. They have lifters coming to Olympia. And you can save 25% on your first order by going over to SavageBarbell.com and using the coupon code SHRUGGED at checkout. 25% off. Use the coupon code SHRUGGED at SavageBarbell.com. Every single shirt that you buy has the word savage written right on the front.

So when you're standing in line at the coffee shop, when you're standing in line at the grocery store, everyone knows. Savagebarbell.com, use the coupon code shrugged. And my friends over at Whoop, I got mine on right now, the Gen 3.0. I'm headed there tonight, actually, Wednesday night. I'll be in Boston interviewing Kelsey Keels, interviewing Mike Lombardi, all the Whoop kids. They've been a partner of the show for the last six months since – or eight months, sorry, since Guadalupe. And I haven't taken mine off since.

I just tapped it right now just to make sure that the internet part was working on it. You can head over to Whoop.com, save $30 on a 12- or 18-month membership using the coupon code shrugged. Whoop.com, $30 off a 12- or 18-month membership using the coupon code shrugged. And, of course, Organifi, the greens, the reds, the gold, the juices. The juice is loose. course, Organifi, the greens, the reds, the gold, the juices, the juices loose, all the micronutrients, vitamins, minerals that you could ever want in your whole life. That's what it is. Get over there.

They've got some cool proteins. They've got some fish oils. They've got some gut bacteria. All that stuff's great, but I love the juices. I love the travel packs. Organifi.com forward slash shrugged. Save 20% on everything you order. Let's get into the show.

Jay Spry, Phillip Tremblay, Stronger Experts, Jay Spry Systems. One-ton challenge. Mr. Olympia. Damn! Good to go. Welcome to Barbell Shrugged. I'm Anders Varner. That's Doug Larson.

Phillip Tremblay. Jay Spry, get off your phone. We are live with the people right now. That's Doug Larson. Phillip Tremblay. Jace Bry. Get off your phone. We are live with the people right now. Okay, okay, okay. We're poolside. We're at the bar. We're in Kingston, Jamaica. There's an Olympian over to my right.

Fast as hell. Look at him. He's on his Instagram faster than everyone else in the whole world. Except one person last night's guest, Johan. Yo, this week I have eaten goat, chicken, pork, more jerk sauce I could ever imagine. We went in the, what ocean were we in today? We were in the Caribbean Sea. Pulled over on the side of the road on like this random stretch, made me hike into the

jungle, went down there and there's this beautiful beach. There was only zero other people. Maybe one or two people showed up. Unbelievable. They have to show up on a jet ski. There was a waterfall. There was a waterfall. Going into the ocean.

Into the ocean. When you walked out, the waterfall was cold. Rainwater coming down from the mountains. Pacific Ocean, or Atlantic Ocean, nice and warm. So your feet were toasty. Your upper body, your upper legs, nice and chilly. Then we had a little workout. God, what a day.

Then we went to the rope swing. Then we went to the bridge. Then we jumped off the thing. Man, this has been not only that, but we hung out with the fastest 17- to 19-year-olds in the country. And then we actually hung out with the fastest man in the world. So two people were in charge of making this happen, and it was you two. Yeah.

How do you feel about your week? I just made that sound really good, I think, because I've had a freaking blast hanging out with you guys. How did this idea come about, and who kind of was the catalyst to making this thing happen? Well, me and Jay were on a Skype call or WhatsApp call, actually, a couple months ago, and we were just talking, training, and Jay told me that he was helping those young athletes perform.

He said, Phil, you'd be so surprised at the lack of resources we have around here. So lots of athletes, when they're in high school, are broken down, and we never see them again. And these are talented athletes. I mean, people would kill to have that talent in many countries around the world. So what I'm doing with Stronger Experts and all the experts I have gathered together on the platform, I told Jay that I could provide that for you. I mean, I can reach out to those 25 guys and say who's willing to help right now

and who's willing to help from a distance. And the response was incredible. Lots of the guys said, i'm in right away and of course i thought of coach cav because coach cav is our sprint guy and travis we've been talking about this forever together to try to do something in jamaica with jay so that's how it all started really and i i told i asked jay is that something that would interest you and i I think he loved the idea. So we just started the process, like trying to find sponsors, find attendees to be able to pay for the experts to come down here. And, yeah, I mean, it just started like that.

And it grew bigger and bigger and bigger. And I think it was an awesome week. Just at the highest level, what is Stronger Experts? So Stronger Experts is a continuing education platform that gathers over 25 of some of the best experts in all fields related to sports performance. So every week, there's a new presentation that's about an hour to an hour and a half long that drops on different subjects. So people can register monthly or yearly. And they have continuing education year-round from guys that usually you pay thousands of dollars to go see live.

Can you name a few people? Who's on that list? Oh, man. We have the guys that are here, obviously, Coach Cav, Travis Mash. We have Jay Edwards. We have guys like Greg Knuckles is going to be on there. We have guys like Dr. Zach Long, Dr. Quinn Hennock. We have, anyway, we have, yeah. I mean long dr quinn hannock we have uh anyway we have yeah i mean

you guys should look at the list i'm just drop the names all of the names yeah i mean there's so many that uh i think when i get a bit nervous i get to forget but uh that's all the experts all like nutrition physios strength conditioning uhization, anything you can think of. We probably have it on the website. And then the most famous debate of all time, right? Yeah. The Boyle-Mash debate. Should we be back squatting?

Yeah. Travis Mash and Mike Boyle. Yeah. That was a great one. Right? It was cool. Is that one of the largest, most watched? Yeah, yeah.

Because what we do with the roundtable is we give it away for free for four days, and then it gets dropped in the members area. So we had a lot of people reaching out and lots of comments on that. And it was a great one. I mean, people could think that they have really opposing view, which they have, but they really respected each other, and it was a great discussion on how to really advance things instead of just bashing at each other. So that's the whole thing behind Stronger Experts too,

is that we want things to get better and not be just controversial. Very cool. Jay, what's your background? Well, my background is in strength and conditioning. And I've been moving more into speed since my strength and conditioning background has been putting me closer with track and field athletes. So, yeah, that's my background in sports performance. You came, you own two gyms here in town.

Yeah. We were talking a little bit pre-show and I was pulling people aside earlier today. And we've spent three days in your gym now, and I was talking to them about just the trainers are on point. Right. You've got people working hard in there, and all the trainers look like they're doing the right thing. Nothing ridiculous is going on in there. Right.

When did you open the gyms? And you were in London for a little while, right? You came back to Jamaica? Right, right. Yeah, so I lived in the UK because, I mean, I grew up in London from the age of four. And I lived in the UK for all of my life. I moved to Manchester to go to university. So I lived in different parts of England.

But London is definitely home for me. But in 2012, after seeing Usain Bolt, Johan Blake and Warren Ware all win a medal in an event. This was a 200-meter final in London. I was like, I need to go where this speed is being created yeah so I mean Jamaica is where I mean I'm originally from and at the end of the day my parents are Jamaican too so it was it was like I didn't really know the culture as much but it was in the easier position for me given that history yeah so I rocked up to Jamaica in 2013, the year after,

and expressed myself to the man behind these three athletes and saying, I want to provide strength and conditioning for free. Yeah. I will come here and I will not expect any pay and I will train your athletes for you. He's like, no, not interested. So then I went back to the UK, recuperated. I kept coming to Jamaica, working with different athletes, so on and so on.

And then I just realized, listen, I need to set up here. Yeah. Because I love speed. So I definitely looked into setting up here. I went back to the UK, did courses, did some traveling, met Phil actually at Westside. Did some traveling, went out there and met Philil along with louis simmons some fun times and yeah came back out to jamaica set up my facilities but it set up one facility then led to another but yeah it's been it's been tough because

we i mean we we brought a certain level of sports performance in terms of strength and conditioning to jamaica yeah because when we rocked up every athlete was doing bodybuilding um as a weight weight lifting options so we kind of brought in some power lifting we brought in some olympic lifting we brought in different ways to lift yeah in order to improve performance especially for speed yeah so i started working with johan um did a little tiny bit of work with usain um but it's been challenging here because the culture is very different and you know you're bringing a new product yeah the work that you're doing with johan i mean that was coming after a big injury

right like your horse hamstring off bone. That is pelvis, right? Yes. What does that look like? I mean, that's a big project. You've got the fastest man in the world, and now he doesn't have a hamstring. Right. So an avulsion literally is when that hamstring rolls up. Cool.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's not an easy injury to deal with. But the greatest thing about that injury, he immediately had surgery. So that's a great start. Yeah. So he had his surgery in 2014. He got back to Jamaica.

He started his rehab. He started competing from early 2015. However, he didn't have the season that he was expecting. He finished up the season running 10-3. So he came, he'd heard about what I was doing in Jamaica. I'd already set up now for about six months. And he was following what we were doing, and he came along one day and said,

Hey, I need to work with you. Did my assessments, carried out a needs analysis, got my physiotherapist to come help me out with the assessment so we knew exactly what was going on. And he's like, you know, we've got to do this in secret first because I don't want anyone knowing about it. So he trained for a whole month at night at about 10 o'clock at night when the gym was closed. And then after a month, he's like, I feel so great. I need to stay for the whole season. I got to tell my coach.

Anyway, he told his coach. His coach tried to block it for a while because he didn't know who I was. And all this kind of political situation in Jamaica. If it's not known or you don't know the person, it's not for us kind of thing. That's one of the problems I had earlier. You've said that all week. It's a very secretive culture the training techniques aren't shared it's all very hidden right it's all very hidden because it's a big secret how do you how do you break into to the sprinting culture if that's the culture um well facts

you can't hide facts right and um i mean i'm I'm research driven. I'm data led. But I'm also, I use a lot of common sense. So at the end of the day, if you are looking at the numbers, you're comparing the numbers, you're processing the data, you're able to then speak on what's happening based upon information that you have in front of you. You're then able to attract persons who are professionals, experts, to communicate with you. And then when you are communicating now, when you put your argument across, if you're arguing, not dogmatically,

and you're putting across solid information, then people will communicate and will now see your perspective, which can't be hidden. So, I mean, as I've said, there's a lot of so-called secrets in Jamaica. I think all those secrets are now out. So, for example, the process in Jamaica of the secrecy started in about the early 2000s when you had the rise of Asafa Powell. This was one of the first boys to not migrate to the US,

to university, offshores, but he stayed in Jamaica and he worked with a coach here and he got results. And what we found was, this is quite interesting, what we found is that in Jamaica, what had happened was, because of the lack of resources for these new coaches who were considered no good because they didn't have a university background in the U.S. and they were taking a risk because they never had any track record of bringing success. What was found, they under-resourced, which is they didn't have chevron to use, so they were using grass most of the times.

They didn't have fancy gyms. They only had barbells and they only had dumbbells. So this limited resource actually put them in an unfair advantage. Training on grass, lower impact levels, was able to prepare the athlete much better. Using minimal equipment to do basic movement patterns, squatting, reverse lunging for hip extension, all of these basics are the fundamentals to developing a world-class athlete so i mean now we see i mean i was at upenn the other day and i was talking to one of their sprint coaches there and he was saying he now tries to use grass as much as he can but you look around upenn it's all concrete so you look at

what wasn't available to these up and coming coaches in Jamaica which created a lot of success actually was one of the things that helped them because most coaches now

in countries who have been looking at the success in Jamaica in sprints for the last 10 years have realized, let us go back to the basics because these things can help. And a lot of what you guys started working on when you guys met together was at Westside, right? And you have the dog on the garage door at the gym.

It's a really important place. But what were you guys, Phil, what were you doing learning at Louis? I mean, everybody learns from Louis, but what were you guys doing there? And did you guys hit it off right away about kind of speed and track kids? Well, back then I was working with the national team of speed skating in Russia for the Sochi Olympics. And part of the training I was using was based out of Louis' speed day. So I found the velocity I wanted my kids to work at.

And, like, so we pushed to really get stronger at that certain velocity. And Louis has a lot of information about that. So I just reached out to him. And I said, hey, Louis, like, I use your stuff all the time. And I work with the Russian national team right now. Like, could we meet? And I think just the name Russian national team really interested him because everything he does is Russian, right?

So we were super happy. He said, yeah, come on down, like, any weekend you want. So I just went there. So I've been to Westside like eight times, I think, right now. And I met Jay there. You have to be the friendliest person that's ever walked into Westside. I'm sure of it. If I walked into Westside. I'm sure of it. If I walked in a minute, I'm just going to stand next to him nicely.

He won't kill me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah. But when you come with a purpose and with really something that you have good questions to ask Louis, Louis is the nicest guy on earth. Like he seems like really rough, and he is if you just there to to get in the way of his athletes but if you really have something cool to ask him and that he feels is going to be valuable for him and for you then he's a he's the nicest guy like i would get there with two pages full of questions because i would drive to west side with my business partner

and we would like like two full pages like single line of questions and louis would make sure he answered everything before we left do you remember any of the big realizations from those questions well not i wouldn't say it's like big realizations in a way that i've read the book of methods before getting there probably like 10 times and took like notes and debated with everybody but it's just realizing how he thinks and how he approaches it and how how west side is not the book of method i mean it is in some extent but it's really how louis thinks and changes thing on the fly and how he's able to adapt for his athletes and what he sees is oh this quality this guy does this you see like that means like his left hamstring or whatever is not firing

the way i would like to so let's put him right around accessories to fix that. So that's more like the whole thinking of Louis that was trying to get more than the, the person is not like, as I mean, percentages are percentages. You just write it on a paper, right? But,

but how he thinks and cause the success of West side is the method, but it's, it's mostly how he picks and choose accessories. So that was my, that's, that's what I got the most out of it. Nice. Did you guys just hit it off about the track kids right away yeah well i was there so all that to say that like so i i saw him and he started to talk to louis and i was there too he was talking

about how he wanted to move here for for sprinting and he asked me and i was with russia so we just started talking and then we had lunch at uh whole foods or something like that together and just like start talking for hours and then that's how i met and we stayed in kentucky ever since and trying to find a way to do something meaningful here like in jamaica so even when when i can remember that that that monday morning we met at Westside because I drove the whole Sunday from New York to Columbus, Ohio. I just finished a master's program and I wanted some experience and I was looking what was happening in the US because I'm coming from the UK. And I flew to New York. I wanted to see the Franco on that trip and I wanted to see Louis.

And I drove for 10 hours to Westside, slept in my car. And eventually I turned up in the morning, and I met Phil that morning. And we got talking, and we even went out for lunch. In fact, we all started talking. It was Louis, Phil, all of us that were at the gym that morning at Westside. And, I mean, Louisis is such a great guy louis just literally open took me in with open arms and took us down to his shop gave us all this shit for free and built the relationship was was was amazing and then i mean in the long run the relationship developed i mean it till to the point me and phil got talking on the phone again.

And Phil actually, you know, I needed some Westside stuff because I wanted to implement more Westside situation when I had Johan. And Phil, you know, got conversation going with Louis and Louis' team. And I mean, Louis sent out with the help of Phil. I got three pieces of equipment, free of cost and paid for them. I mean, I got a belt squat got an inverse go got a reverse hyper and i mean that's just the level of support we've had just because of pushing into network and i'm speaking to people and and just having shared passion it's done amazing things

because we're here now yeah and this is just the beginning of something i think quite huge to be honest i think it's really important to know that you're not just a gym either. You kind of give us a little tour and there's basically a dorm in there. There's bunk beds. There's six kids sleeping. You're really investing in not just your gym but the people, the kids, the next generation of track in Jamaica. In the end, you're really investing in the community that you're a part of now.

Right. For me, one of the greatest things is problem solving. I have no time wasting on negativity or not finding the answer because I always believe there's an answer. It may not be immediate, but it can be long term. So, I mean, when I first started out, one of the problems I was having,

my client base was good client base trainers were turning up late yeah turn up 20 minutes late time island time this is Jamaica and me being ex-military I am not so so I said, fuck it. Nope, you're good. Keep going. I'm going to build a dorm. These guys are going to live here. All right?

Because I'm going to make sure I get down here at 4.30 and get them up to do PT in the morning before they start at 5. Because one of the things I realized with a lot of these youngsters in Jamaica, do did not know what was good for them they did not know that exercise released endorphins and they will be happier after they train in the morning and took their clients but after showcasing this they then said i feel good yeah i feel happy i want to get to work so yeah we built a dorm first of, it was for the staff mainly.

And then we developed into the athlete situation because when I first got here, I mean, I recruited staff from some of the schools, the sports performance schools, but they weren't to scratch. So I had to retrain, retrain, retrain, retrain. And that caused us to then, in order to hold on to guys, we had to recruit far and wide. They couldn't get to Kingston in the morning. It was just not going to happen. So having a dorm set up was essential.

Also, the dorm is subsidized, so they live practically for nothing. So it helps them as well. And then now we have the athletes. The athletes now live on the dorm too, so they can make training at 5 a.m. in the morning because they've got to get to the track for 5 a.m. to start a warm-up to be able to start training for 5.30. So the dorm situation, yes, it's been an incredible situation.

It cost us, but, I mean, for me right now, that cost is given back in how the staff are able to have a culture of unity. So, I mean, I can't complain. Yeah, I think they have a phenomenal opportunity. I mean, I said at the beginning of the show, but the training staff and just one of my favorite things to do is just kind of walk into a gym and observe what the trainers are doing, how they're kind of interacting with their clients.

And I haven't seen anything dumb all week. Well, that's like a real record when you walk and you just have a bunch of trainers in a gym. Like there's a real system that you've, it's on the walls. You talk about it a lot. Right. So we have a periodized cycle, which is 16 weeks. Right.

Because, I mean, one of the things that I found annoying from working in, I started working in commercial gyms when I left my city job and one of the things that really pissed me off was um was trainers really being so lazy oh what did you do yesterday oh I don't remember what you did yesterday or what's good so I was all about creating systems that um we had because we have a multi-trainer system where any trainer could take you on any day. However, I have classifications within that system because you have trainers who are introverted, trainers who are extroverted. You have trainers who are more rehab specific. You have trainers who are more high performance specific.

So we classify the trainers and we also classify the client base because you have clients who do not want to be shouted at you have clients who want to be shouted at you have clients who need more help in a particular situation in terms of their coming back from an injury and you have clients who quite frankly do not appreciate being rested for any more than 30 seconds. Yeah. So once we started out the classification, a multi-trainer system now was then layered with what parts of the body will be trained on what day based upon their goals. So we then went through, are you here for strength?

Are you here for holding on to muscle tissue and dropping body fat? Are you here for dropping weight in general? Are you here for sorting out in general? Are you here for sorting out issues that you have with pain? What are you here for? So when we acquire the goal, we then put the client in a particular color code group, which then means the client works a particular area. So if it's lower body today, it's lower body. If it's low body if it's low body posterior it's low body anterior so the trainer then has the choice to choose the exercises based upon EMG studies

based upon information of which exercises they are going to choose to fill in for that periodized mesocycle day which will lead to an overall periodized cycle for 60 weeks. Have you put this? Have you? Ah, Coach Kyle. You're going to heckle from the pool. He just heard exercise and right away. Seriously.

He had to get on the show. There was no way he was going to have his voice not be heard for a minute. Speaking of exercises, you mentioned Joe DeFranco just a few minutes ago. I know he trains a lot of NFL combine guys. He trains them to increase their 40 time and whatnot. He does a lot of light, very fast sled sprints to work on acceleration. Do you guys utilize that at all? Yes.

We have seven people that we take. We class them as the pillars, the SPRI training system, because I met all of these guys and I've done either a course with them or spent time with them. And Joe, yes, there's a lot of stuff we take from Joe for sports performance. Joe is the chap who created one of the first warehouse gyms in the world that we're open warehouse concept was made famous burn from Joe in the 90s so credit to that the sled pushing yes sleds in Jamaica I don't know well We haven't been into downtown Kingston

But you have a lot of guys who push hand carts around Which will Have a lot of load on it And then you look at their posterior chain development Which is ridiculous We actually were speaking about this at Westside Louis was talking about sleds And benefits of sleds

But coming back to Joe Yes Joe's work has influenced us When it comes to sports performance um and we i mean we don't take necessarily a full ideology or philosophy from a particular person we just take hints that we like and make it our own because um we're a separate culture so but there are elements of um sled pushing and pulling that comes from Joe's work because Joe's done amazing work when it comes to that. Where do you fit in on this?

You've been doing a bunch of muscle activation, RPR, talking to the kids. It's not just stronger experts. You actually have like a real practical side to your knowledge base. Yeah. I have a gym in Montreal, Canada with a clinic and everything. So we work with athletes, professional hockey players, professional golfers, contracts a bit everywhere in the world for speed skating mostly because I was a speed skater for 22 years.

Like I said, I helped a Russian national team. They won their first five medal ever. It's not only me, but I was part of the team that helped that happen. So, yeah, i work with general pup also but a lot with with athlete um and i've been doing that forever i mean i'm at least 18 years now yeah what's kind of your specialty in that role i mean what you were teaching the kids this weekend is that kind of the the sweet spot for you um i would say that's part of what i do what i really like to do is evaluate an athlete and really find everything that I can improve for him to get into position

and what he's liking in terms of strength and power and then build everything around that. Muscle activation or applied kinesiology are just part of it. I do a bunch of stuff. This weekend, I've let Coach Cav take more of the side of track because that's his specialty. So I did what I could do around that to try to support what he was doing. But I do a bit mostly like what he does, but for other sports. I mean, track is not my number one thing. I love it, and that's why I created this here.

I want to support the young athletes, but he's way more knowledgeable than I am in that area. You can see things like you guys saw him on the track. You don't even see anything because he goes so fast. Like, you can see things. Like, you guys saw him on the track. You don't even see anything because he goes so fast. And he was like, he picked up, like, 11 things. And he was like, this, this, this, this, right? Yeah, he was really impressive.

Yeah. So, like, I can do that on the ice. He can do it on the track. Yeah. That was going to be my question is, do you see a lot of similarities? Just I know that the stride's different. But when you're dealing with an athlete, do you go to the track and you're like oh that's kind of in my world too that exactly i mean what i try to do all the time let's take speed skating for an example because because that's what i know is best but like i go right by the ice and then i want to see kids the athletes

go fast because that's where all the problems come out right so then i have my notepad and i say all right for this athletes i see this this this this it can be related to this muscle not working right can be lacking like mobility at that joint or whatever so i think all my notes on all my skaters then i go on the table i do all my assessment my mobility and all that so if both correlates i know i'm onto something and that's that's gonna have a major impact right away on my athlete yeah so that that's mostly the way i work but for that you have to know the sport that you're dealing with and i mean i know track and field i can make i can see some stuff but never never like a guy like gav but like in speed skating i can i can see what he sees so for me it's easy to just build a

program after some of the stuff you're working on on, the RPR and applied kinesiology. Yeah. So RPR was based on applied kinesiology, right? So it's a course that helps a lot. But I went a bit deeper. So I hired the guys in private to really try to teach me to go a bit deeper than what RPR is doing. And I've been doing it for a long time, so even before rpr was around so so i don't say i do rpr yeah in a pretty box but i mean what they do what they do is okay it's just like it's it's it's the basics right and it's cool and it's hard to teach people that because you can dive down that rabbit hole and and never get out so but i've tried to get as far as i can without getting out of my scope of

practice but then so i can pinpoint what's wrong in an athlete and then refer him to the person i want right away so the problem is solved like in a couple days or weeks instead of taking months on and you don't know what's really happening right yeah so and even to plan the training after it's much easier so so I use this as a tool really to pinpoint what I want to work on and fix more than activation only a bit like RPR but that's what I

understand from having them in the courses Can you when you start to see kids that we're working with all weekend when you're in the track on the ice and then I guess at the track this week. But are they suffering from a lot of the same problems in youth athletes? Well, I think it's really a matter of how you train them after.

Because sports is repetition, right? So you're going to overuse the same muscle over and over and over again. So what you're lacking is just going to come out even bigger all the time so for me it's all trying to fix that really so it's not it's not really about like is this athlete are they all broken the same way yes there's some things in the specific sport that are going to come out all the time but we have to find on every athlete like what can cause those those overuse because it's basically you can't do anything about a guy crashing or a guy having like something happening to him you can prevent that but you can prevent a muscle imbalance or a pelvis that's not aligned correctly or something that will cause

eventually an injury from happening if you can spot it on time if you're one of the first coaches that's coming in here and bringing bringing real strength and conditioning principles to track, which is like the national sport here. It's like the Super Bowl every time champs is going on, like the high school national championship. How much kind of pushback do you get when you bring these new methods and this new athletic training specific to their national sport? I mean, you're coming in and the old guard can't like you too much. No, no, no, no. The old, yes.

I mean, I am not one to mince my words. You seem like somebody that doesn't, you're really passive. Right. You're a very soft-spoken, nice person. Right. Until they cross you. Right, precisely. So, I mean, i'm quite diplomatic and i understand that persons are going to say

or feel or think we have been doing so well for so long so we don't need you why are you going to be of any benefit to us um because we've been doing well without you so I understand that argument I also understand the argument who are you who the hell are you there is no real long-term proof and you're so young so you have no right to do this however as I said I'm very positive at the same time. So coming in, I have to showcase. And I think Johan Blake was one of the greatest opportunities for me to showcase what I can do. Because him starting out with me at 10-3 and changing the stuff that he was doing for him to come back down to a 9-9-0 gave credibility. And then for Johan to be able to be honest and open in

interviews and just credit me for my work has helped a great deal not even somewhat has helped a great deal and then i mean what i'm able to do is pinpoint certain trends as well which let people from other industries so people who are in banking people who are in finance people who are in government who have an education to understand that I'm presenting data. What happens to all Jamaican sprinters after they reach 25, 26 years old? We see a trend that they start to reduce how fast they can run. When you assess a typical training program here in terms of weights, resistance training, it is often around the hypertrophy kind of numbers. So eight, 12, four sets.

If you're hypertrophying for your whole athletic career, from you were 16 years old, mass, mass, mass, mass, mass, there comes a time when mass increases and force is not going up anywhere. So F equal M times A. FMA, sorry. Force Max Acceleration.

Looking at that information, I can pinpoint that they are, yes, great athletes, Jamaica, do well early out. But if they continue to train like this in the long term, their times start dwindling and dwindling and dwindling. What about strength training that doesn't equal hypertrophy? What about strength training that really focuses on force and speed and the minimal that comes with it is hypertrophy?

What about managing hypertrophy through nutrition? Being sensible about when we carb load, when we carb deplete. Because we can't carb deplete when we're doing high-intensity training at the track. So me presenting this through interviews across the nation and putting articles in papers, people of understanding start to reason with myself. So I didn't have a platform to argue. So when other coaches now come with nothing solid, it's like, what are you talking about? This guy has facts. Are you just saying just because you don't like him or you don't know him you don't want him to contribute that's nonsense so um i mean my first degree was in law and international relations so i have the ability that's too good to be diplomatic 36 minute 10

all right go nice yeah so you know i mean me, it's a situation where I'm able to allow influencers from across society to understand what it is I'm doing from a common ground, which will then lend support to what I'm doing. So the sharpshooters and the coaches and the old guard who don't want to let me in unfortunately um that has been put aside and i now have a platform to now demonstrate results so all the talk is over i now need to keep my head down and start conjuring up consistent results over and over and over and that's why strong experts i'm so happy and privileged for this to set up because when i don't know because there's going to be times i don't know i have someone to turn to i have someone to turn to that knows or if they don't know they can say jay let me hook you up with this person they're going to come back to you tomorrow um because one doesn't know everything yeah because what we want to do

like it's been super cool this week and and hope it helped the Yeah, because what we want to do, it's been super cool this week, and I hope it helped the athletes a lot, but we want to do this monthly follow-up thing on the platform so that if Jake calls me and says, hey, you know what, I have a nutrition question, then I can try hooking him up like a guy like Mike Isratel. And he says, oh, yeah, I want a physio question, then I'll say, hey, Quinn, could you come on board and ask the questions that she has?

Sorry, Justin just grabbed my butt. So I'm going to try to provide everything that he needs to get his athletes to sex hall. I mean, as much as I can. Everybody's busy, but every month we're going to try to help him out to build his philosophy even more and help the athletes even more also. When you have these kids, I mean, they're 17, 19. I think the oldest – what was the oldest one in there, 23? Yeah. Yeah, they're young.

So when we – we've been working with them. Right. We had two sessions at the track, two sessions at the gym, and then we met Johan and, you know, 17- and 19-year-olds are little boys. You've got a long ramp with these kids. Right. And they're already sub-11 in the 100. Yeah.

They're freaks. Yeah. How do you, like, what does that look like? Is it four years? Is it eight years? How do you kind of build these programs? Okay. The reality is, in the time we're living in,

these boys, in order to have a successful or even to have an attempt at a pro career, they have to run under 10 seconds. Now, what you find is the recruitment process in Jamaica is all over the place because of politics. I know

politics. I like to play politics sometimes, but sometimes I don't like to play politics. However, what we're finding is there are different situations in Jamaica that I'd like to lay out. For example, Johan Blake is an anomaly to this data. Johan Blake started being successful from 18 years old. I'm talking running low tens. At 19 years old, Johan was running sub 10. There isn't much other persons like Johan Blake. Yeah. Most other persons came through to sub 10 a little little bit later on, at 20, 21, 22. So Johan is, I mean, he still holds world junior titles.

This kid was fast from young, and his technique and his form was excellent. And very inexperienced while he was doing that. Right, exactly. Now you have another anomaly, which is Asafa Powell. Asafa Powell, at 15, 16 years old, he was running 11-something. A coach took him on because he wasn't a high performer at Champs. Let's lay down what Champs is. Champs is a championship in Jamaica for high school athletes.

So guys and girls from age 12, 13 up until 17, 18 when they leave school. Champs' only focus is for them to win. So the schools are prepared to recruit whatever athlete from a primary school level to win champs. There is no hope that these kids then go into a national program. Their only purpose is to win champs. So when these high schools go out to the community in Jamaica to find speed, they may, one, take this speed because this speed allows them to win champs. If this speed gets damaged on the way to winning champs, they will bin them because there's many more to choose from.

And also, they may buy this athlete and hold this athlete. When I say buy, let me be very clear. They may assist the parent to help finish a house that's not completed for living. They may help them buying a fridge freezer or help them buying a stove cooker. Give the parents something they need in return to have their child go to that school. But sometimes the child may not run the child may be shelved just to make sure that child doesn't that talent doesn't end up in another school which could potentially compete against them to win champs so they'll just derail someone's career just so somebody else doesn't have the

talent right so those things happen so um it's nasty it's nasty it's it's war so what we're essentially trying to do is saying okay we are going to take these boys because we only recruit from 16 to 19 because of the dormitory they have to be at 16 plus so we can take these boys, save them. For example, if they're competing at one of these schools, because there's four top schools which has the money to do all the recruiting. They are the ones that cycle winning champs. Nobody else wins champs. Only these four schools because they have the finances and the resources.

The resources mean they can hire a physiotherapist. The resources mean they have an a physiotherapist. The resources mean they have an old boy who is a doctor. The resource means they have an old boy who is a stockbroker in the US who will donate $20,000 every year. So that's the resources that these schools have. And as I said, if some of these boys get hurt and they don't see fit to invest in repairing that child, they will bin them. So essentially what we do, we come into the setup and we say, we will give you free physiotherapy. We'll look after this boy. After the boy finishes school, we may take him on to take him into a pro career.

Because when he finishes school, he's either lucky enough to get an overseas scholarship in the u.s or he then gets the opportunity to carry on running in jamaica yeah all right so since everyone's trying to peak for this competition that's right around 18 years old all right are some people just burnt into the ground and they they peak too early and they're they're they're too beat up to like actually go on and be successful as a pro precisely jamaica is a talent pot now i've broken down based upon topography i looked at topography maps all over the island to see where the most hilliest part of the island is and i went out on the field myself to look at these talent because they're climbing hills of rock sacks every day that's a that's a that's an

advantage point for that child if you're spending five years climbing up a hillucksacks every day. That's an advantage point for that child. If you're spending five years climbing up a hill to school every day with a load of 40 pounds, you have an advantage over a boy who is in the city of Kingston who gets picked up in a chauffeur-driven car and taken all over the place. So boys who come from the west of Jamaica, which tends to be at least 600 meters above sea level at minimum, tend to come with a greater development of posterior chain, a greater development of core strength. So, more resilient to injury and also ready for hip extension, putting force into the ground. And a great base. Yes. Great athletic base. Running up and down, playing cricket,

multi-sport development over the years as well is great. So, I mean, these boys then are boys that tend to be the best boys to recruit based upon that data.

However, they get beat up and they get put aside because there is no plan for them after. US schools may come in and take them. However, that doesn't guarantee success because in the US schooling system it's different. Cultural differences may cause reduction in performance. Weather, food.

There isn't much data that suggests a lot of Jamaicans who have moved overseas to schools have come back and been able to represent their country or have gone into becoming a pro athlete. The numbers, based upon what is available and what goes through the system, it's well below 5% success rate. When you are recruiting these kids, though, you also have to kind of, you're coming out and telling their parents and them, like, I'm going to take you in to be a professional track athlete.

Like, that is my plan. You're fighting probably some parents that are saying, no, I'd like that kid to go to school and become a teacher, doctor, lawyer, everything else that seems like the safe route. Right. Do you have a really hard time recruiting kids to come down here and train with you? Yes. What you find is Jamaica is still a society that believes in if you're not a doctor or a lawyer, you're unsuccessful. The vocational route or trade route, so to speak, being a carpenter or a plumber because you love to do that, is seen as unsuccessful.

So every parent wants their child to do these careers that are seen as the highest level of success in society. However, some of these kids do not have the academic prowess to pursue such a career. However, that doesn't mean their education should discontinue. I am still a firm believer in a child pursuing education to a maximum. I will fund, and I have funded out of my own pocket for a child to go to university whilst he's still training because that's the deal I brokered with the parent. So if the child understands they need to balance school and track that's fine because I have boys who are still going to school. They come to training at 5 a.m. in the morning and do their gym at 7 and head off to school by 9. So, I mean, there is possibilities for all.

And, however, I have boys in the program who, quite frankly, they are going to go to school and waste time because they do not want to be in a classroom and they cannot be bothered with that so what i do for those boys i take them on yes i train them to run however i train them to become gym instructors personal trainers within the field of sports science um personal training i i i push them into that i can't help but but feel like you are just so far ahead of just the reasoning and logic behind all that. I talk to so many people that just aren't designed to sit in a classroom and listen to some person talk to them. And nobody ever tells you that you can be a trainer, that you can be a coach, that you can do this professionally

or just chase your dreams and become a professional athlete. It's the fact that you can go in and actually give them an out because the standard system, they're going to fail. They have no interest in it. Most of them will end up working, and there's nothing wrong with this, working in a hardware or a retail store or just doing a normal job, not because of passion, just solely because of making ends meet.

So if you have the opportunity to do something that you're talented at and make money from it, rather than just going to do another job that you're just doing to make ends meet, then there you go. Phil, we've got a big problem ahead of us. We've got to help these guys out

we got to be in jamaica all the time now making things happen yeah yeah um what is project stronger to make i mean we've gone over the real high level things but where's your vision and goals for just how we change this situation and get as many resources here as possible yeah well we're already working on a project that will allow us to come back here. My goal is to bring the same experts, but also bring another expert new at every trip so that we can have a new perspective on something and then helping Jay and the athletes even more. But at the end, it's all about finding sponsors.

But how we go about it is if we can find a sponsor, and we're working on a couple right now that would fund the trip per se so like the flight of the experts and this and that and then have attendees that come and want to learn from these experts as an experience because i mean that was a unique experience i mean i've done a lot of conferences in my life and shows or whatever but this was i think was unique so really seeing what the experts are doing like seeing coach cav on the field or seeing me like fix this good shoulder like right on the table like this is like going through what we see on a daily basis so that's what i want to try to provide so by selling those those spots like mentorship almost like coming here in jamaica seeing the athletes like we saw johan we raced you on like like this will pay for the experts to be able to come back so and we're

going to do some some fundraising like we're going to sell these t-shirts online so all the proceeds are going to go back to project stronger jamaica either for the kids to buy stuff that they need like like cleats and stuff like that or to help fund the next trip for the expert, depending on what's needed at that time. So we're going to try to help as much as we can. And, yeah, the goal is definitely to come back, especially after seeing these kids, how in three days, how they changed on the track was mind-blowing.

I think it's really cool. You mentioned the fact that there's a bunch of coaches that paid their way here to be here, watch on the field stuff. I have never sat in on a track and field session. I've spent a bajillion hours inside a gym, been to the conferences, all of that. So I'm walking into the track with zero knowledge outside of they look fast. And by the end of it, through Coach Kaff,

through just kind of everybody's side conversation, we're able to really pick things apart and work our way down kind of the chain. Clearly one week you're not going to be able to have the whole slew of things, but it opens your eyes to an entirely new lens of how people are talking about strength, speed, power, force, all these things that we talk about in the gym through Olympic lifting, squatting, bench, deadlift. But you guys are looking for creating the fastest human in the world. And you can't do that unless you see what fast looks like and then make changes and then see what faster looks like and then make changes and then see what faster looks like.

And that happened in front of our eyes in three days. And I've been to a zillion conferences where you sit there and watch PowerPoints, and there's no hands-on. You're watching a video of somebody, and they're not showing you the video that it didn't work. You're not seeing that trial and error. You're not seeing the communication, the back and forth that goes on between athletes and coaches. And it was incredible because I went from zero to feeling like I had a relatively okay idea of what goes into creating the best athlete in the world.

And we want to put data on this. I mean, we've been lucky for this first trip. We had a couple sponsors. We had GymAware for velocity-based training. So everything will be recorded in the cloud. So we're going to be able to really see the progression of these athletes. We have OmegaWave for recovery for HRV and DC potential. We have Harbinger Fitness that provided lots of equipment for weight vest and ankle cuffs and lots of things for Jay.

And we have X-Ergo with their G-Flight. They were going to test jumping abilities and force velocity curves and all that. So our goal is really to document all that. So it's not just us coming for a weekend and disappear is really like where are the data showing is there an improvement is what we're doing really working and then we can adjust right away on the fly so when j reach out we can just log in our cloud and say oh well this improved this improved but this sucks like yeah we have to change that right away so that that's the whole idea behind the two so it's really to back it up so then it could be reproduced somewhere else also and it's a cool

way for for the for the members of the platform to really see a different thing than just presentations you know now they see real life experience uh me and anna's been wearing our bands here for for a couple months now like like tracking a heart rate and hrv and all kinds of recovery things and you were saying the hrv as popular as it is is really more uh beneficial and useful for endurance athletes and you just mentioned decent potential just a second ago and that's more applicable to anaerobic athletes sprinters and don't get me wrong i think like all these things like whoop or what polar is doing and not it's it's it's cool for like recreational athletes or even like

people i work hard in the gym but aren't like high-end level athletes it gives you an idea but it's been shown that the dc potential is way more correlated to your nervous system meaning that when they run jump testing or things involving more power that's what really comes closer to showing you what really works more than HRV. And HRV, the more you do cardio work, the better your HRV is. But what Omegaways allow is it tracks both, right? So you have four fields that it shows you on your scan after. So I think it's better to pinpoint for an athlete, especially a sprinter,

which is super explosive. At least the DC potential, I think, will collaborate more to their effort than HRV. So for the weightlifters and powerlifters listening to this, we have probably maybe one or two sprinters somewhere in our audience. Mostly weightlifters and powerlifters, but also athletes, et cetera. Anything that's powerful, like shorter duration, I think, I mean, the new research are showing that DC potential is better correlated with that. So if you're a cyclist or a marathon runner, maybe not. But if you're a weightlifter, I was talking to Travis about it.

I said, we're going to provide him an Omega Wave, actually. So I said, I want you to try it on your athletes, see if you see a direct correlation with the DC potential and how your athletes are actually lifting in the gym. And these are numbers. I mean, numbers can't lie. And these guys and girls at Travis' gym know their number. They know what they're supposed to hit. They know if they're tired.

I mean, they probably feel their body super good. I mean, all high-level athletes usually have great feelings. So I want to see their correlation between this. Coach Cav is going to use one also on his football players and runners. So we're just going to – I want to see on myself, like, those correlations being applied in different spheres so then we'll be able to have even better understanding of how it works. I think one of the coolest aspects of this entire thing, too,

is the people that you bring down here. Like, as we're kind of talking and everyone's got their little pieces just in our brain from our network, I'm like, oh, we need to get that person. Like, we need to get Galpin here to be testing, doing muscle biopsies. Like, the XPT guys that are doing the underwater training, you're talking about building confidence with kids. Like, the ability to just expand the network because bringing a show show in like this uh stronger experts you guys have just like the real deal people that are like coaching bringing in the real research and data yeah um i feel like you guys at the very

surface like to talk about this being a great thing which it really is but in the back of your mind you're like we're gonna produce a gold medalist yeahist. Well, that's the goal in the longer run. I mean, it's always a goal, right? If you're a strength coach, you always want to try to produce the best athletes possible. But this trip was really, really good. I think for the athletes, for the attendees, and even for the experts per se, we've all learned a lot from everybody else and so this is really encouraging to to do something more and try to build on that so and all the athletes like we

just could see how they changed not on the track but like you know when we arrived like they were all like shy and wouldn't really look at us and didn't know what we were doing there and all that and at the end it was like big hugs thank you man. It was awesome. So just seeing that is like, man, I want to come back. I want to help these kids again. Your boy Akeem and I, we follow each other on Instagram. Yeah. I better see no girls, no partying. I want to see you teaching people how to squat.

You better be doing pull-ups every day. Yeah, exactly. Nothing else. We are not allowing any of that. Anders just mentioned confidence a minute ago. ago you gave a great talk on confidence in casual conversation but what are your thoughts on confidence especially with the 15 year olds, 17 year olds

building their confidence as they approach a pro career I mean talking specifically for sprints I mean you go out you are in a finals you have 80,000 people watching you. You're going to go down on the line and you have all eyes on you. And you must now remember what you've done over the last four years and execute.

If you don't have confidence, that goes downhill. So, I mean, I look into a lot of sports psychology. Matt Hagar out in Australia, a sports psychologist, I look a lot at his work. And, I mean, confidence comes up a lot. And for me, I started to use now physical setups to try and promote and build confidence and show confidence and I found that using the pool has been excellent because what that pool creates it creates that similar setting to when

you're on that line you're underneath a pool a 10 feet pool with two 25 pound dumbbells in your hand and in order to stay underneath there you need to breathe be calm and focus and execute because if you start to muscle it out if you start to do anything that is not controlled you are going to get into problems under the water. So I find bringing the athletes under the water, I bring them up to 25 feet sometimes, they come out and they're able to remain calm, they can breathe and they focus, but then they execute confidently. The level of confidence that comes from this, and yes, I have seen XPT and what Lear and Gabriel and stuff have been doing.

And yeah, I think I first came across that through a rugby player. Because I used to do rugby strength and conditioning at university in the UK. And I saw a few rugby players from the UK heading out to California with these guys. And I saw what they were doing. And the transfer is good. I've even had a golfer go underwater for a little while because he lacked confidence. His physical performance was excellent. But his psychological makeup was preventing him from executing it.

Didn't have the confidence when he needed it. I think we've all seen it, right? Like some athletes in practice, like in practice runs are so good. They say, man, nobody can beat that. And then you have that other guy that looks super average but is able to turn it on when it's time. Whereas the other guy that was super good in practice gets all nervous and misses all his lift or his race.

You see, the point that you made, what happens when this takes place, when they mess up, is the arousal. When the arousal comes in, when these different hormones start to secrete, and you fight or flight, all of these things can cause everything to go down. So the athlete needs the opportunity to know what that feels like and know how to practice it.

Because Usain Bolt for me and Phelps as well, I find are two of the most confident athletes that I've ever come across in my time. Usain, I've actually looked at him extensively, looked at his tapes. And when this guy comes out, like every other human, he is shit scared. But he doesn't let that fear or that lack of confidence be picked up by anybody. So he has the confidence there. He does these things he may do across before he goes down. He may stare the camera in its face. He may do something that's really extroverted, but that's to command that physical situation that he needs in order to also demote the people around him. Because if he doesn't, before he goes down on that line, sees all the other competitors as losers,

so the ability to also visualize is a very important part of sports psychology. So if he's not able to visualize them all as losers and him crossing that line before them, he's not going to win. So visualization, confidence, these things are super important for high-level performance. In a way, when he walks down there and everyone gets lined up without saying anything, without really being over the top and letting them know, he has to signal to them that he's the alpha and he's going to smash them. And he does it very well.

That's why he's won three gold medals yeah yeah he's yeah i mean you're saying is a very very clever guy yeah and i have said this to persons before you saying it is winning the mental battle and kudos to him and I've seen Phelps done similar things too not so bravado but he puts fears into his opponents and I mean

if I was Bolt's opponent just see him on the line probably be a little scared he doesn't really have to say anything he's like I bet that guy he's really fast yeah exactly that guy all right he's really fast

yeah exactly all right um yeah that's awesome well i've had a phenomenal experience this has been just unreal week just from being around the athletes we raced the fastest man in the world and then we talked to him last night i mean we all left that interview and we were just like whoa we like that guy's so legit his story and getting where he's at um from cricket to never really knowing he was fast to being the fastest man in the world and the fact that he tore his hamstring off you were there to help him like um i feel like we're just in a room with the people that are really operating at the highest level so yeah kudos to you guys for bringing this crew together thank you for letting us be a part of it.

You guys have an open microphone to present this stuff whenever you want to be on, and we can be around each other. So watching this project grow is going to be just incredibly cool. I can't wait to be a part of it, and thank you. Well, I must take this opportunity to say to you you guys thank you for coming along thank you for being understanding in a foreign environment and a total foreign situation that's greatly appreciated because i mean you coming with your optimism and your positive drive has paid um what is needed for these guys to also even bring their spirits up. It's been amazing having you guys here.

And it's good to have you, and you're welcome to come at any time that you want. Just give me a shout. I love it. Where can people find you? The gym? Yeah. I'm on Spry Training. You can see that Instagram, Twitter handle.

And J Spry is my handle, my personal handle on Instagram. Nice. Is there a website or anything as well? Spritetraining.com is there. That's currently being updated. If they want to support your kids, is there a place they can donate or anything like that? Yeah. It's best for any support, I would say go through Stronger Experts because they have the infrastructure to do that.

So as Phil is doing now, selling T-shirts, I'm sure if persons reach out to Stronger Experts about Project Jamaica, Phil will get everything sourced out. Yeah, very cool. Go buy a T-shirt. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, go buy 30 T-shirts now. But not only the T-shirt, we recorded this entire thing. So you guys are going to have this online for...

Yeah, yeah, everything. The whole project will be online for people to buy. And part of this is going to go back to financing in a second trip. Or it's going to be dripped in the members area if people want to take the full membership also. All our live events are, so the members gets all that. Yeah, the t-shirts, I think that could be really cool. Like people just all that. Yeah, the t-shirts, I think that could be really cool, like people just buying that. There's a big chunk of money that goes straight back to these athletes,

so that would be super interesting. And if sponsors hear that or something and wants to be part of it, we're definitely open. The goal is to be able to come back and bring more experts to help out. We need enough money to get so many yams in these kids. There's so much stored energy that all they do is go and run nine six yes sir is that too much to ask get the kids some yams nine six we need it yes but yeah stronger experts.com and project stronger jamaica doug larson very cool you can follow me on Instagram at Douglas E. Larson.

At Anders Varner because I'm Anders Varner at the Shrug Collective because we're the Shrug Collective. TheOneTonChallenge.com. Snatch, clean jerk, squat dead, bench, get you to 2,000 pounds. 1,200 for you ladies. We're going to make you so strong. We'll see you next week. That's a wrap, friends. Remember, we've got so many things going on.

One Ton Challenge, Mr. Olympia, the Fit Aid One Ton Challenge. Mr. Olympia, September 12th through 15th. Get over to the FitAid booth. Make sure you're hanging out with us. We've got all kinds of strong people coming to hang out. I can't wait. If you're not following the One Ton Challenge page, get over there. I'm going to be doing all the announcements coming up. Gosh, so awesome. PodFest, Spartan World Championships, Tahoe, September 26th, 27th, 28th. All kinds of panels. Podcasters, hit me up in the DMs if you need information.

Google Spartan PodFest. Get registered. Get out to Tahoe. I've been there the last, I was there last year. We were there a couple years ago as well. Just phenomenal, phenomenal event. If you're a podcaster, you need to be there. We're creating content all weekend and we're going to run the race.

So get out to PodFest. Hit me up in the DMs at Anders Varner. I'll get you all the information. Also, our sponsor, SavageBarbell.com. Use the coupon code SHRUGGED to save 25% on your first order. Whoop. Go to Whoop.com. Save $30 on a 12- or 18-month membership using the coupon code shrugged. And then our friends over at Organifi, Organifi.com forward slash shrugged.

That is how you get your grain, your bread, and your gold juices. Friends, we're going to see you next Wednesday. God, life is good.