Barbell Shrugged - Talking Depth - Goodbye Chris/ The Alex Maclin Story

Episode Date: June 15, 2016

What's up everybody, this is CTP here with Mike McGoldrick and Alex Macklin. And you're listening to Talking Depth, which is the after show for our show Full Depth, which just aired on barbellshrug.com and YouTube. We're doing something a little different tonight. This is the first time we've got to talk to you since the passing of our friend Chris Moore. So we're going to start off the show with a little audio snippet from Chris, and then we'll pick back up, We'll talk about Chris a little bit, and then we'll talk about the episode,

which Chris was highly involved in. And, yeah, so go watch that if you haven't seen it first, and I hope you enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. Enjoy. One thing you can always do to ensure justice and to assure you're doing good, capital G good, is to always try to come back to something you love daily

and to try to make it better. Just a little bit better. A little bit more helpful. A little bit less heavy with mistakes. A little bit better focused. Any small improvement coupled with the daily effort of just trying again is really the only remedy to the self-doubt. Because you're going to feel that. You're going to want to be and do something.

And something's going to whisper in your ear that maybe it's not possible. The only way you're going to remedy that is to keep doing it and to stoke and to cultivate within yourself faith, for lack of a better word, that if you keep it up, that if you will be rock solid within yourself and know that you have something worth sharing and providing and talking about and doing, if you keep stoking your little fire uh that will remedy the issues of self-doubt it will help that better than anything else and even though you'll keep dealing with it at least at the very least you'll be able to easily look back from where you are because like right in the present moment it's hard to always believe in

the vision of the dream and have all the faith but if you also just take the time to show a little gratitude for how far you've come to to realize that in a space of a couple of years, you're going to have a lot of hurts and a lot of wounding things, because that's going to happen to everybody. But also in that same point, you can see all the little moments where you were able to produce and make something, and persevere and move on through those moments. Two years to see how far you can come with a simple practice like that is really all the kind of proof you need that you're on the right track.

So if you want to be a good coach, just keep coaching. If you want to be a good writer, find a way to write even one sentence today, even one sentence written as good as you could will make that happen. And if you want to take on a business task, it's just anything you might want to take on. Keep up the daily faith and the effort. That's how you will make that a real thing. I do believe that. What a fucking dude oh good man biggest thing from that is you know if you want to coach keep

coaching it's it's his explanation of the world's natural tendency to pull you away from the things you want to do and you have to remind yourself daily to keep going back to those things you love like you have different tasks or roles or jobs or things that pull you away from the things you enjoy doing because you feel like that you have to outgrow them or move on and it's just not true you need to stick to your guns and stay honest and if you enjoy doing it keep doing it yeah i mean it's an every yeah i mean you you go back and that's what makes it that's what makes the journey and the things that you accomplish along the way that's what makes it, that's what makes the journey and the things that you accomplish along the way, that's what makes it awesome. Like just going at it every single day, trying to make it just a little bit better and finding those small little victories,

even in the times where you don't feel like you're not really doing much. You know, it's, it's, it may seem like that's life. It's going to sit there and try to like tell you to stop doing it, but you just got to remind yourself to just keep doing and doing what you love and pursuing what you love and going a little bit every single day and putting, putting work into it. Yeah. So for those of you listening, we lost a dear friend last week, Chris Moore. And we were just reviewing a video that CTP created for him in tribute. Where did that come from? Where did that monologue come from?

That was from one of his podcasts. Yeah. If you go to Barbell Buddha on iTunes or his website or – actually, I don't know if the website's still up, but Barbell Buddha on iTunes, he has over 100 episodes. And so that was just a quote that I had found. I felt like it found me. I was going through trying to figure out what to do,

and that one just came, and I feel like it said so much of kind of, you know, having him around. Like, I feel like it really, not that you could sum up a man in fucking one thing, but it felt as good as anything pure and. Yeah. I couldn't have picked anything better.

Yeah. Yeah. That's powerful. I mean, that's what, I mean, you know, Chris, I think that's what he was about is just, you know, doing something he loved every single day. And, um, you know, there's just so much honesty in that. Yeah. It's just crazy to see like now, especially now that it's been a week now,

it's been a week, it's like, you know, it sucked those first few days, and it still sucks. And I'm not even entirely sure if it's completely sunk in, I guess. You know, it kind of comes in waves. But the more and more the days go by, it's like I still see him and everything that we do and really have grown to really appreciate that he was even here, you know, in here adding anything. I mean, so apparent when you just look around, it's just, he's still there. Yeah. I mean, what a tragedy, but how grateful are we to, to have his voice

and so many outlets that we can always find, you know, he's got books, he's got a podcast, he's got shows. Like we just have, we have so much of him left. Um, and even for those that, um, didn't currently listen to him or follow him or know him, he's still going to be continuing to reach people. It's not even more now. I mean, it's, it's a beautiful thing. If you think about it, like what an impact. Yeah. I mean, if, if you, if What an impact. Yeah, I mean, if you leave the world, I mean, that's his legacy and his impact. And he's been able to impact so many people.

I mean, we get, God, man, like, you know, we would get emails every single day about how people would read Chris Moore's books or listen to his podcast and be like, that guy changed my fucking life, man. Oh yeah. Like when we, when we go to events and stuff, man, I mean, you know, everybody loves Mike, Doug, Chris, and, and, you know, people say hi to me and stuff too. But, uh, I never got, or I never saw, excuse me, I never saw any more people, um, really saying like a genuine thank you. You, holy fuck, you have changed my life than, than with Chris. Yeah.

Like we'd be at the games or somewhere and like someone would, it would be almost to the point where that person was almost in tears or like, you know, they were. Yeah. And. It was almost like the dose response

was more powerful. Yeah. The impact he had on people rather than it just being a shotgun effect to, you know, millions or whatever. He, the people that were connected with him, he had a really deep impact on them. Like you said, changed their life.

And he cared about the fans. I'm not going to say that none of us do, but more than anybody else in the group for sure. Oh, for sure. I mean, if anyone's going to rival him, it's going to be Kurt. And I like to think that Kurt channels his little inner Chris Moore too. You know, Kurt was part of the groups back in those days. But, yeah, my point was that Chris just loved connecting with the fans.

He would never ignore a tweet. He would always respond to emails. He would always be genuine help. And what I loved is, you know, I do my best to respond as soon as I can to anyone that asks a question. Like, I'm so grateful to have people that want to ask me questions. Anytime you saw someone ask Chris a question, it was a long response.

He would put his heart and soul into a total stranger for any question that they asked. Well, you know, I saw on Instagram, somebody had said that they cried or they wept for this man that they've never even met because the fact that they honestly genuinely felt that he cared more about other people than himself. And I can tell you that I think that's the absolute truth.

Like, he cared so much about people. Like, he's probably one of the most, like, selfless, generous persons. Like, he – I really truly believe like he would be totally fine like being like totally broke and poor if he could just help people and get his word out surprise he was like and and just help people and that's what he wanted to do he just want to help people like that's it. He just cared a lot about people. Yeah, he really lived by what he preached. He believed in it.

He believed in his own word. Followed it. Yeah, for sure. And it was really cool over the last week to just see all the stuff coming in, to be able to read and just countless post after post. It made and still is going through all this, you know, all the better to be able to like right there in the instant, you know, see the positive light that has, you know, been brought into the world from him. So, you know, and a lot of that stuff would have just never gone unsaid or would have went unsaid. But, um, yeah, I wrote an article last week talking about that, how I hate that it takes something tragic like this for people to express

their voice or opinion about what has helped them in their life or help change their life. Um, so if you know someone that has helped you or had an impact on you, tell them now, don't waste time. Let them know. Now,

if you love someone, tell them now that's extremely important because you may not have forever to tell them yeah so yeah well uh yeah again thank you uh to everyone listening and for those that have commented and and reached out and shown support during this um you know the barbell stroke family appreciates it the chris moore's family appreciates it um it's been really appreciates it. Um, it's, it's been really powerful. And, uh, you know, again, we can't thank you enough. Um, so we just finished up watching the newest full depth episode. Um, and the special thing about this episode was that it was Chris Morris, um, the latest project that he worked on it wasn't it was it's not his last piece of

material that we have that we're going to be putting out but it was the last piece that he had actually been working on is his most recently completed project and uh it's the it's the the reno episode the alex macklin show yeah yeah he was he told me he was really proud of this episode. And he told me that this was his gift to me, which I don't even have words for, honestly. No pressure, Alex. What a fucking gift, though, huh? And what's really sad about it, and I may choke up a little bit here, but that was the last time I saw Chris, man, alive.

In Reno? Yeah, dude. Oh, fuck. Oh, damn. The tears are coming. Yeah, that was the last time I saw him. Yeah. Um, yeah, uh, you know, we had, we had went to Reno. Um, it almost didn't happen. Uh, I think we had ran into some issues, but, uh, we managed to go and, um, had a great time. Like that was a fun trip. That was a fun trip fun trip um i remember a lot of people

were coming up to us and they were talking to chris and that he had had conversations with them at the meet that later on i learned like he just you know i mean that's who he was he would just sit there and listen and talk talk to you and listen to what you had to say and um but uh but yeah so and that and we they made that episode and that was actually, that episode was a combination of a few things. It was first, uh, a dinner, as you saw in the, in the show, a dinner at my parents' house, um, where we just talked about, uh, kind of where I got my start, how I got my start into weightlifting. And that was a great night. I think Bledsoe had told my mom, like, that was a magical night. It was a magical moment because we all just shared this like connection. And, you know, with, you know, my parents do CrossFit and they're into lifting. And then I had, you know, Mike Bledsoe, who is, you know, my first coach. And Doug is also one of my mentors and CTP and just had Mike Bledsoe, who was my first coach, and Doug was also one of my mentors, and CTP,

and just had all the closest people that were involved in my journey and my closest supporters. And it was just, I don't know, it was just a crazy feeling. Yeah, I feel like everyone that spoke. And your mom cooked a hell of a dinner, bro. Yeah, you forgot to mention that they own a, what's the company they own, Nourish? Yeah. They make paleo foods and they know what they're doing in the kitchen.

My mom can cook, bro. Yeah, I feel like everyone at that dinner table had like a special nugget to share that night from watching the videos. It was pretty cool. It was really something honestly like you know my mom and I we we have a she's always been a single parent and um you know we've we've had our ups and downs in our relationship as most you know parents and kids have them and one of the biggest things was she, that, you know, first of all, like you saw on the show, like, you know, I went to college, um, you know, I graduated, I studied engineering and, um, I got into grad school for engineering and that was always

supposed to be my, my, my destiny, I guess, in her eyes is to go to college and get a graduate degree or some kind of degree and go work as an engineer and make lots of money and do these things. And when I chose this life of, um, fitness, that caused a really big, um, kind of, uh, issue with her. I remember when we first hired you, we first hired Alex to do our coaching for the six-month muscle gain challenge. I thought she was fucking with me. Because at this point, we were still at Faction.

I was still editing up there at the time. My computer was in there. I was editing videos. And she trains there. And I remember I would make jokes. And it wasn't funny to her. We were really stealing you and distracting you from your PhD. Yeah, I was working on PhD.

Yeah, and I remember she was really nervous and worried about it. What the hell is this kid doing? Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah, she was not very happy with the fact that I was going towards, you know, this, this startup and it's fitness. And she's like, what are you, what the hell are you doing? Like, you know, you're smarter than this, things like that. But you know, I, I tried to tell her and I, I tried to convey to her, like, this is what I love doing. Like I love

weightlifting. I love fitness. I love coaching and helping people. This is what I love doing. I'm not meant to do what I'm doing right now. I'm extremely unhappy. And like what Crystal was always saying, it's like if you love something, you've got to go after it and do it. And what she shared at that dinner table, you know, she finally, she's finally come around to it.

And now she sees that I'm happy and, you know, it's whatever. And what she said is like your passion, you know, kind of finds you as opposed to, you know, you trying to go out and look for your passion. That was the first time she had said that. We caught that all on tape, right? Yeah. No, that was literally the first time I have heard her.

Like her blessing. Like affirm, yeah, like affirm what I'm doing, which is crazy. That's crazy. And I remember Chris afterwards being like, this is why we do this fucking show. This is why we do this. Yeah. You know, for moments, little moments like that.

Yeah, she talked about how grateful she was that you were someone who had found your passion early. I thought that was pretty interesting because how many people get really deep into their lives and have either been too scared to pursue something because they're afraid to change or they just don't know what's going to happen or they don't know. Their passion hasn't found them yet. They just don't know what they're passionate about, which is often the case as well. Yeah.

Yeah. I think she came up to me sometime later and was like, yeah, basically, like, I never did that. And I never went after what I was really would make me happy. Did she call you a damn millennial? Yeah. went after what I was, what I was really would make me happy. So she was, did she call you a damn millennial? Yeah. Uh, no, no, but yeah. Yeah. But I mean, the craziest thing about all this is when you really look at the history, especially of barbell shrugged, um, you know, this has been your, it's your goal for what the, almost four years now. Yeah. And, uh, if you go back to episode one of Barbell Shrugged,

for those who aren't familiar, it was we filmed that episode right after we had just got back from Alex's first weightlifting meet. And that was the topic of the show. If you go back, Alex is there. He had just competed. We were asking him. We've got to get that footage.

Episode one? Episode one of Barbell Shrugged was Alex talking about his first weightlifting. Was it audio only or did you film it? Filmed it. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's online. It's still up. But the crazy thing is, is before that, I had traveled with Alex, Mike,

and then a couple people who were with us, and I had documented the whole thing. So basically kind of like the full depth of its day. It's kind of trying to do this follow around, you know, more in-depth thing. I literally recorded everything. And it was cool because we had some of that footage you see in the full depth of that in there. Me lifting with my mouth wide open. Yeah.

Why do lifters do that? I don't know. I think I was just doing it at the time. Like it was just a thing. Is it a monkey see, monkey do thing? I think I was just so amped the time. It was just a thing. Is it a monkey see, monkey do thing? I think I was just so amped up because it was my first meet. And I just remember Mike Ledsoe, he's my coach in there, he's like, calm down. Because I was just so amped up.

It's just crazy to see that, that that whole journey, though, has taken – you were on different episodes. You were on the one with Kendrick and you were on another couple here and there. Yeah, the one with Kendrick was after I went to University Nationals. I think that was my third or my second one, I want to say. So you can kind of like see kind of if you find the right videos, the development over time. But this kind of pieces it all together, and it's kind of cool to see.

So that was the whole mission here, or the whole point of the show is that you kind of got to where you finally wanted to go yeah yeah well i'm not i mean i still have a lot i still have that's the thing when i said in the in the show is that i kind of feel like it's just beginning like now i i have um you know went to the american open that was a goal of mine for the longest time but But that's how goals are, man. Like, you smash one and you're ready for the next one. It almost opens up this new door where you're like, what else can I do? Right.

Like, I took a chance on something, did something that I didn't know if I could complete or not or, you know, actually get through or, you know, or tackle that obstacle. And when you do, you're like, Oh, what else could I do? And it gives you this confidence that you've never experienced before in your life. Well, I think it's just, you know, one of the things too, is that it's, it's good to accomplish goals and it makes you feel good, but that doesn't mean you have to be satisfied. Like you, I don't, I feel like you kind of never should be satisfied and complacent. You know, I think when you, when you, when you get to the point of like you kind of never should be satisfied and complacent you know i think yeah when you when you when you get to the point of where you're completely complacent

satisfied i mean what is life now i mean that's part of life i think it's just always just chasing the next thing that you can that you can just crush the next challenge yeah yeah yeah i agree um man and moving forward a little bit in the show to when you start competing like uh we were watching you get prepped and you were talking about i loved how you went through frame by frame and and explained what was going on in your head like before the lift during the lift after the lift i've never really seen that done before oh yeah you know where someone's kind of giving a play-by-play what's going on mentally. And I was, my heart was pounding when I was watching it. I got so amped up.

I'm competing in a couple months. I can't wait. My palms were sweaty. My heart was pounding like, I grabbed my phone. Bomb spaghetti. Oh, shit. Drink Chia Mio soda. What are the odds?

Sweater already. Exactly. So, yeah, I mean, that was just something cool that I haven't seen in many shows before. This felt like a real fucking show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I was really connected and drawn in. I was like, oh, man, like, I am, like, my head is in this right now. My adrenaline's flowing.

Like, I can't wait. Yeah. But, yeah, so it's just an extra note I wanted to add there. Yeah, the experience with competing is just like what I said. It's really second to none. If you do weightlifting, like I said in the show, you just got to compete. It will bring an entirely different meaning to what

you're doing and it will give you you know you'll you'll compete and you will know all right i know what i know what i've got to do now and that feeling is just it's just going to keep you coming back for more it's addictive and i don't i don't i'm not i haven't competed in much sports like i don't have like an athletic career like I'm not some kind of like lifetime athlete, but I've never had that kind of feeling before. Well, give us an update on what you've been up to. So that was when? We did that in November?

That was December. Yeah, so American Open. Well, yeah, the dinner, I don't know when that dinner was, but yeah, the American Open was December of 2015. So since then, let's see. So actually i had taken some time off um after the american open so i had been dealing with i i wasn't hurt hurting at the american open but i was hurt if that makes any sense um i had injured my back uh in may earlier that year and i had spent the entire summer i first of all we didn't even talk about this in the show but literally this meet like me going to the american open almost

didn't happen like five times like i got a re-battle and injury yeah i got hurt um i hurt my back and then i had some other uh issues come up It got better, but then it got worse. Like right before I went to the Mass Strength Spectacular on Travis' farm, I had tweaked my back again. And I don't know if I was doing this like funky little, like look like I was doing like the lean back because I was literally compressing my spine to make the pain go away like before I went to lift oh wow yeah so um and this this meet was hilarious you were dancing and I was like that's

not I was like that's so out of character for Alex I know he's out there like yeah it looks like he's behind a behind a chicken a rap video Alex never acts like that I'm like I'm like no I'm not doing like the lean back or anything. But, like, no, that explains a lot. I was trying to – I was literally – I was trying to compress my spine to keep it from hurting so I can pull off the floor. And the whole meet, it was, like, outside on this farm. And we were lifting on the – like, warming up on these, like, sketchy platforms or whatever. So I qualified there. And then i jammed my finger um like after

that and then uh i had this like issue this health issue i thought i was gonna have to have surgery um i ended up did not have to have surgery and that was like right before the meet so like everything was stacked against me so just getting to reno was just a huge i was like right before the meet. So like everything was stacked against me. So just getting to Reno was just a huge – I was like, oh, I can't believe I'm here. Well, you've done a couple things since then. You've done your foray into CrossFit. Did I use that word right? Foray, yeah. So I took some time off at the American Open to rehab and nurse my back,

back to health. And I hired a coach, and he's been helping me a lot. His name is Zach Greenwald. to rehab and nurse my back back to health. And, um, you know, I hired a coach and he's been helping me a lot. Uh, his name is Zach Greenwald. And, uh, yeah,

so I've been getting back into lifting, getting my numbers, getting my strength back up. Uh, I'm starting to cut down to 77 kilos so I can, um, go to the American open again. So,

but you did the open. I did the open. I started doing a little CrossFit. It's funny. We talked about this. Metcons won't make you a better weightlifter. I wrote this article like a couple years ago. Now I'm kind of eating my words a little bit.

Well, you got to keep in mind, you know what you're doing going into those Metcons. That's true. That's true. If you want to get really good at weightlifting, you do need to practice focus, but doing conditioning, I have found lately that it has helped my weightlifting. Yeah. So the, for those who didn't read the point of the article is that, you know, you're not

going to, if all your experience with the Olympic lift snatch clean and jerk is just in high intense Metcons, then you might not ever get to where you want to be with those. You might not really get them down. And so the point was like go focus on them a little bit. And so I think you having focused on them enough, it's like you're fine with them now. Yeah. But yeah, I've been doing some CrossFit and losing some weight.

I feel really good. I feel healthy. I feel just as strong. Yeah, you've lost a lot. Tell them about it. You've kind of dove into really taking your nutrition. Yeah, I guess I don't know. I mean, I never considered myself like eating poorly,

but I definitely wasn't watching myself as strictly as I probably could. And I always made weight. Like I never had a problem making weight. So like I competed at i competed 85 and you know maybe i was a little bit flubby for an 85 but i mean i was also i was also fucking strong you know like i i was squatting over 400 i was almost pushing 200 kilos on the back squat and 400 pounds on the front squat and you know i was snatching snatching above 250 and cleaning and jerking above, what, 315. Yeah, but at what price?

Yeah, that's true. So, you know, I think being balanced, and I learned a lot about this, you know, recently. And even from hearing from Travis Mash, who was my coach at the time. And just being balanced is important. Like, it's important for longevity. Yeah, I mean, if you don't feel good you can't train well right and uh if you're walking around all the time feeling bloated and joints hurt because you're just not watching when you eat and yeah not taking care of your movement quality you may

be a little stronger but man you are not having fun yeah you are miserable yeah my energy levels are a lot better said for sure energy my nutrition is a lot better so my energy levels a lot better. A lot to be said. For sure. My nutrition is a lot better, so my energy level is a lot better. My cardiovascular endurance is a lot better, so I don't fatigue as much during tough training sessions, which makes me get more quality reps in

as practice. So, yeah, I think it's a good thing to be balanced. Yeah, I just think it's cool that since this fucking show, only about six months has gone by and you've already tackled two big things oh yeah open and getting abs

what the fuck you're on a roll yeah well it's funny in that in that in that uh i don't remember i said that but the two goals i had were one of the goals was to get better conditioning which is what i've been doing so nice yeah you have any i know mc McG's over here on his phone. He took some notes when we were watching it. You got anything else? Yeah. Sorry, real quick. It turned sideways. The biggest message that I took from this show

was, you know, you usually see a story like this about someone who is like, you know, a prodigy or Olympic caliber, or, you know, it follows their journey a little bit. What I like about this and how it's so relatable to the majority of us is that you actually, you can change if you want to. And this literally followed this, you know, this person, Alex's, uh, step-by-step process through that, you know, it talked about where he was before he even found fitness

and then how he transitioned out of that and had enough of treating his body like a dumpster and then chose a goal, not even being good at the sport. He didn't choose the goal after he found out he was pretty good. He chose the goal before he was any good. So he took a chance there, which is very important. You know, like you often see people that you see like Rich Froning or something, or somebody who's really good at what they do. And you're like, which came first, the confidence before or after their

success? Like, were they confident before they knew they were that good? Or were they confident after? And then Alex's case, I would say, I don't want to put words in your mouth, but it seems like maybe you built that confidence, you earned it along the way because you didn't know you were good at first

and you developed that as you went on and that's a really powerful thing and that's something that sticks with you throughout your whole life. So yeah, again,

the biggest thing I see from this show is just showing what realistic change looks like. Yeah, I think it's cool to watch. You can say, okay, I could do that. Exactly.

Not that you wouldn't watch. Very approachable. Yeah, the other things are very inspiring too, not to take away anything from elite athletes. For sure. They're definitely putting in the work, but I think this is unique, and like you said, for the mass audience because you can quite, I don't know,

it just feels like, holy shit, he did it. I could totally do it. Like, fuck. Yeah, that's the big takeaway. I mean, I. And it's going to take work. Yeah. Yeah, that's the big thing.

And I think. I don't think. Hard ass work. I don't think we caught it on the show, but I think Chris asked that question. And like that, that's the one thing I want people to understand is that, you know, you can, whatever you want to do you can you can fucking do it i think it starts the show starts that way yeah i think it was yeah yeah at the beginning yeah because i mean and that's what i said like it may not happen it may not ever happen

it may not ever happen and sometimes you have to be you have to be okay with that yeah you gotta know what you're made of but that doesn't mean But that doesn't mean that you can't try to make it happen and put all your work into it. And at least if you don't get there, I guarantee you're going to learn a lot of shit about yourself along the way that is going to help you do so many things. Case in point, Chris Moore. I mean, this dude had goals on goals on goals and dreams on dreams on dreams,

and he didn't get there. But look how much by him trying day after day. The trying is what's fun, you know. Look at all we have now because of that. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's a great point. I mean, I'm sure, yeah, he did have a lot of things. What were some of the things that he share with you about kind of

what he wanted to do yeah and i wish we had charlotte sitting right here now because you know them two were teaming up to uh basically go on and do kind of like these shows right here full depth where it's where it's you know really getting in and and doing the story uh really really making it less about um us or or them or anybody and and really pulling out people's short stories and finding unique stories and sharing them. So kind of like taking the ball from here and then continuing it. And I know I think it's going to be posted later this week. I think it was the day before Chris passed. He did an interview with the Girls Gone Wild podcast.

And they had sent that to me and I listened to it. And it was really good, man. And he tells all that stuff in there and it's a trippy to hear, but, uh, very cool to hear at the same time, just how excited he was about it. Um, so yeah, that's all in there. So go check that out. That'll be posted later this week, I believe. Yeah. Um, yeah, I did mention it earlier too, but if there's, if, if anyone wants to still contribute um there's a link you can follow it's um gofundme.com forward slash more ironheart m-o-o-r-e as in his last name um you can contribute to you know fulfilling chris's dreams uh with their company

ironheart as well as supporting the family yeah um the again the support's been pretty amazing so far so if anyone else wants to continue to help out yeah we're gonna have a service form here on sunday and i know me and james are looking into uh how we can maybe present it live so if it's if it's not up then uh sorry we couldn't figure it out but um there's a chance that maybe this Sunday that you guys get to kind of watch in. And I know he would have thought that was cool. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Very cool. Yeah. Anything else you guys want to add? I don't know. What's the formal breakdown? Yeah. Make sure you head over to –

Well, what's your next goal? Well, I definitely want to go to the american open this year um as a 77 kilo um i'm actually doing my first crossfit competition later on this year too this motherfucker you want me to come coach you i almost said something yesterday i was like all right i'm gonna go to regionals i said big i said big audacious goals man you already said it you know i was like i'm like you know if i'm gonna if i want to fucking set a goal it's gonna be a big one and that's why i make regionals mike uh how much time do you have i got a long time four years

next year no four years we'll see not as Maybe not as an individual, but as a team, maybe. You got to stop weightlifting. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, I remember you watching me do that 16-2, and you were like, you got to stop doing those cleans like a weightlifter. Yeah, you're setting up, pulling it as fast as you can. I was like, slow down. Slow down.

Breathe. It's not weightlifting. Yeah, yeah. No, this was really cool like I'm really happy with how this episode like turned out

oh that's what I was sorry I was gonna say one more fucking thing like the this when we watch it feels like a real

fucking show like mad props to Charlotte yeah mad props to Chris I mean they put their fucking hearts into it beautiful work yeah

for real and uh it's really cool to just see that. If you listeners enjoyed it, share how much you enjoyed it with Charlotte. Tell the audience. Share it online. Let people know what you think and what you got from it as well. Don't let that go unheard. Yeah, for sure.

I think part of this episode, too, I think is a lot of – I mean, it's a lot about my story, but it's also – like Chris definitely gave a lot of commentary on, you know, going after your goals and, you know, working hard and having a dream. And I think he really this i think this episode more than anything um i haven't seen the other ones but just knowing chris like it resonated probably resonated with him very powerfully oh he loves this episode he loved that trip we had a fucking great time yeah and um as far as full depth's concerned we got two more or three maybe

because we might put one into two parts. But the next one that I think you'll see is going to be one where we came back here to Memphis, and we kind of got a vibe on the Memphis scene, and this is where we started. Oh, is this the Brian Schilling? Yeah, we did Brian Schilling, Leslie Schilling. So it's about Memphis and food. So we kind of tie those two together. They do a great job of that, Charlotte and Chris did So that'll be the next one

And then the final one is about Coach Bergner It's been the one we were most excited about It was the first one I think we filmed And we spent three days with Bergner It's going to be fucking great, we're super excited about it Unfortunately Chris Did not get to record His overdubs

His voiceovers, which, man, that dude was born for voiceover. Oh, yeah. He fucking, oh. But we'll figure that out. Charlotte, I'm going to try to talk Charlotte into doing it. But nonetheless, the show will go on, and we'll fucking, Chris was so proud of that Bergner episode.

That might be a two-parter, so it will definitely come um and uh so that's what we got up on for full depth and then also if you haven't seen the two NASA episodes go watch those super good yeah very cool all righty awesome guys thank you so much for listening guys