Barbell Shrugged - The Human Garage with Garry Lineham— The Bledsoe Show #129

Episode Date: April 12, 2019

Garry Lineham (@humangaragela), co-founder of Human Garage, is a lifelong bio-hacker who believes that the human body was designed to heal itself. He started Human Garage as a vehicle to give people the correct input to start that healing. Garry himself lived in chronic pain for over 20 years.   During that time, he became increasingly frustrated with the countless treatment modalities that only addressed his symptoms. He realized the root of the problem wasn’t being solved and set out to do just that.   Human Garage is based on the principle that optimal health is achieved through complete alignment— restoring the natural functions of the body to enjoy pain-free, full-range of motion. Garry is proud of the fact that medical doctors and therapists from around the world are now coming to Venice, California to learn the Human Garage way of repairing and re-balancing the human body.   In this episode, Gary gives why stretching doesn’t work and the issue isn't the issue. How the body is all connected as one. How the Human Garage began and what sets it apart from other places.   Minute Breakdown:   0 - 18 Muscles have signals. If you don’t get a signal to body part you are working on, then you need to fix that because you are over compensating other areas.  Traditionally people power through aches and pains and don’t resolve it. What does it mean to have your body compensate itself back into alignment?   18 –29  There’s one reason why all these injuries happen and it is stress.  People work out to get rid of stress and then end up injured. Fascia is woven everywhere throughout your body. It’s like an intricate network of webbing that connects each part of you to everything else.  How we walk with our hips not our feet. If your systems aren’t working together than it has an effect on performance. You want your muscles to work better, but really you need the whole body to be working together.     29 - 42  How meridian lines show hidden throughout your body,  connections you can’t see and would never consider. They are useful in showing us the connections between muscles, joints, nerves, and organs.   Drilling down to the real issue, lin internal organs, then you heal faster. Food staying in the system too long and doesn’t absorb protein which then turns to cards.  When your body is achy in muscle and joints, it’s because the body can’t recover.   42 – 50: Gary changed model so people don’t have to come in as much.   They are now training external preactionars so they can expand the Human Garage.  Human Garage having CBD essential oil steamed shower, hot or cold baths, offering the total conscious spa experience.  What’s organic structured wine? People from all over the world are calling for Human Garbage treatment because of what takes 3 hours to heal, will take minutes at Human Garage because of their techniques.  Postural alignment and client education are two key elements of the Human Garage program. --------------------------------------------------- Show notes: https://shruggedcollective.com/tbs-lineham --------------------------------------------------- ► Travel thru Europe with us on the  Shrugged Voyage, more info here: https://www.theshruggedvoyage.com/ ► What is the Shrugged Collective?  Click below for more info: https://youtu.be/iUELlwmn57o ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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And when people heard the show, they were blown away. And you guys had a lot of people reach out. And I know there's a lot of people in the audience that were flying in from places like Singapore to L.A. to get treatments at the Human Garage. And one of the most common questions I get is, you know, where's our human garage where I live? And it's like, oh, sorry, there's only one. Because it is one of those things when you get in a conversation, it's, you hear it and you go, of course there's one of those near where I'm at. And that's happened to me before where I remember in 2006, I go, oh, there's a CrossFit gym near me.

I'm sure I'm looking. I'm like, oh no,, there's not. Wow. Oh, I got to open one. Yeah. But if I want there to be one. So Human Garage, yeah, it's one of those things where I think people hear it and go, of course, there should be one in my town. There should be. And then we hear that all the time. I mean, literally, we hear that all the time. Yeah.

People, you know, when you're coming to New York, when you're coming to London, when you're coming to Japan. And the challenge with it is, is that the work itself, it's taking a practitioner and training them. They have to unlearn what they did know and then learn what we know. And that's a common topic on this show is unlearning. Unlearning. Yeah. Yeah. Because,, yeah. Because we built all the therapies. I mean, if you just think about the fact that in therapy we use two-dimensional functional movement screening. It's very two-dimensional. Every movement, everything you look at is in two dimensions.

But we have three-dimensional joints. They move in three dimensions. And if you're to take two dimensional force and apply it to a three dimensional joint in engineering, eventually the joint's going to have an uneven wear pattern. And that's what we're doing to our bodies. And so the challenge is that everybody's been taught either to work out, to coach somebody as a trainer, as a therapist, ART, a chiropractor. They were all taught to look at the body in two dimensions. And you're not going to be able to see what you need to see. And it takes a while to unwind that thought process because especially if you've been doing something for 10, 15 years, it just

to completely unravel that and something that used to take four hours is now three minutes. It really, really messes with the mind of a practitioner up front. Yeah. I mean, a two-dimensional model is great for passing along information. It makes it easier to teach. Right. You go to PT school or something like that. And how are you going to get all these people on the same page to be good enough to make some type of impact? And things are evolving.

They are. I mean, people are starting to question the norms because what's out there isn't working. There's more injury per capita in every form of sport than there ever has been. So with all this technology and all this therapy and all this equipment and everything that's going out there, we're getting more and more and more injuries.

So that just means that something's not working if you stand back and look at it globally. Yeah, I want to point out too, this isn't just about injuries and injury prevention. You were showing me a video last night of a lineman. Yeah, Haloti Nada off the Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah, he hasn't run in how long? 16 years. So he hasn't run in a straight line forward.

He's obviously on the field moving around. Oh, he's a 365-pound defensive lineman. Maybe we could pop up that video later. But he's a 365 pound defensive lineman and just because of the way a lot of people are, there's dysfunction in the muscles. So he would walk basically to the field, go on the line, hit people, walk back off. As a good lineman does. But walking around the block or taking long walks would be a little bit painful because things would go out. And that's the first thing he said. Yeah. I've run into a lot of athletes where you put them in their sport and they're fucking one of the best. And then walking up a flight of stairs is excruciating or even just getting out of bed. So we did 45 minutes of our torque therapy on him, and he paced a wide receiver in the video that I showed you.

It's hard to believe a big guy could run that. It's crazy when you watch a guy that big move like a wide receiver. Not about move like it, but he was moving at the speed. And here's the cool part. If you do our torque therapy, it actually eliminates the basic need for stretching. So there's no warmup, no stretching. You just, he went right from therapy. He walked out onto the field and ran and that's what we captured. Yeah. I still stretch a little bit, but one of the things I've found is I've gained the most mobility in my joints from

focusing on posture and breath. Correct. And I start breathing well, and I start shoring up asymmetries in my core. And all of a sudden, my hamstring, I was like, my right hamstring's tight. And doing a lot of work with y'all helped me get to a more symmetrical body. That's what put me out of the game. What put me out of the game was, I remember two months before I had the surgery that laid the foundation for me to start thinking differently. I remember looking at my body. I was lifting more weight than I'd ever lifted in my life. I was poised to go to nationals again. And by the way, I've got, I had, I'd been injured three times before nationals one month out and I stopped,

I kept going, what the fuck is going on? There's a lot happening there because of what a lot of it was my mentality and what was happening with my psychology and my emotional state that was causing me to push too hard right before. And I can dig into that some other time. But I remember looking in the mirror and basically looking at the line from the bottom of my torso to my neck. And I saw, I saw a, I was bending, I was bending to the right. And I looked at that line.

I remember looking in the mirror and going, I was in Austin, Texas at the time. I go, that's not good. And I'm really close to competing at the competition. I want to compete at, and I'm the strongest I've ever been. I'm going to, I'm going close to competing at the competition I want to compete at, and I'm the strongest I've ever been.

I'm going to keep training. I'm going to stick to my program, and then right after nationals, I'm going to figure out what's going on. Of course, before I can get to nationals, I can't press an empty barbell overhead. Right, right. So I'm like, I can't even press an empty barbell. How am I going to throw 300 to 350 pounds overhead? And I didn't get to go.

And a month later, I was giving a talk. And a lot of sports scientists were there. I happened to be at Princeton. And it was an hour-long talk, 45 minutes in a talk. I had to take the Q&A. I was done at 45 minutes. I was doing Q&As,

and I had to have someone bring me a chair. I had to sit down, and I couldn't stand anymore because I had this pain, and this really dull, nagging pain that was getting worse and worse by the minute and i'm having to sit on stage and do the q a i get off and dr romanoff who is this top-notch running coach russian sports scientist he goes let me look at you and he looks at me and he's got me on the

ground he goes oh you have hernias well i go oh fuck man i thought i was doing good i thought i'd like strengthen my core i thought i'd done all the right things to keep that from happening and uh sure enough i uh i go see a doc and he find the doc finds two there ends up when he goes in for surgery he found a third so two inguinal and then one i I call it sacral. And yeah, so I've got netting down at my bottom now. But that's when I realized how important strengthening the core was. And what I thought was my core was completely wrong. Exactly. Sorry.

Exactly. You know, one of the things that we tell people constantly, and, you know have an understanding that muscles to work have leverage and signal. So if there's, you know, you hear a trainer often saying, you know, fire that glute. Come on, turn on that glute. If you're saying that, if you're being told to turn on your glute and it's not turning on, you need to fix it, the leverage. If you've still got a signal, you need to fix the leverage because working on that glute that's not working is actually causing a compensation, which is going to show up as an injury in three to five years. What do you think about doing, say a glute's not firing and you're doing glute-specific work,

maybe hip thrusters or something like that that really gets the firing. Can doing that kind of work cause, can it work the reverse way? You mean work yourself out of a problem yeah you know i suppose it could i mean theoretically but there's just too many compensations in people's bodies today um if you have one specific issue but the the problem is uh what we've begun to begin to realize is that injuries and and dysfunction comes in layers so like if i hurt my ankle and i walk around kind of with a limp for three weeks, part of all that limping motion and lifting the other shoulder and stuff like that

becomes part of the dysfunction. So as we unwind the torque from the joints and the body and the fascia starts to release, what's interesting is that we'll fix like an ankle. But if we don't, if we don't take the layer of dysfunction that went with that, then it just creates another injury cycle. So you hurt your ankle, then you, that creates even more dysfunction. So there's, there's, there was a dysfunction that caused the ankle injury. So we've got to figure that out. And

then after it's injured, we start compensating, you know, with a limp, which is causing, you're basically learning a new movement pattern that is unhealthy. It's going to lead to, sorry, I fucked up my ankle, now my shoulders. Exactly. And this is why we can't fix problems because traditionally what's going on out there, in the world of injuries or the world of actually competitive athletes in sports, they basically just kind of power through their aches and their pains and they stretch around it and stuff like that without ever resolving it. Well, if you're actually stretching around something constantly,

like you've got a constant nagging issue in your shoulder, your hip, your hamstring or something like that, and you're not going to repair it, you are going to have an injury. Yeah, I walk into gyms and I talk to athletes, and I see they've got 20 bands wrapped around them and stretching and all this stuff. And how much do you do that? I was like, well, I have to do this every day in order to train or else I'll get hurt. And I go, and I was like, the band is not the solution.

There's something else going on, but people don't want to take the time. They go, you know, I just got to keep training. I think people have the fear of if I go and actually look at what the root cause of this problem is and I have to fix it, I'm going to have to take time away from lifting weights, and that's going to hurt my progress. Biggest issue that we have with athletes, they come in, it's like, yeah, I want to get fixed, but I don't want to stop anything. And you know, that literally is said. I want my cake and I want to eat it too. Yeah. It's like people, I coach people in coaching businesses and it's like, I want to be this and

this and this. I'm like, all right, well, you got to stop these five things. I mean, I got to quit those things. I'm like, yeah. Like, ah. But six months from now, you know that you're going to be 10 times better than you were today. Yeah. You know, it takes a discipline for people to do that. Because a lot of times people use sports or are working out. They use it to clear their brain.

And it's part of their release. They call it therapy. Yeah. I'm going, I need, my workout is my therapy. Right. And so the issue is, is that. I'll go crazy without it. Fucking crazy.

Because we got too much stress. A fitness nut that, I mean, when I say a fitness nut, I'm talking about myself. I used to, if I took a week off from training, it was the end of the world. Yeah, for sure. And, you know, this is where people are at right now. This is exactly what they're dealing with on a daily basis. They don't want to come in and stop. And the challenge is that they're training dysfunctional.

And if you train dysfunctional, you are going to be injured. The best part about it is that— And you're not going to hit your potential. Yeah, exactly. You'll never get to your best possible self. So let's talk about why they have these problems in the first place. There's only really one disease in the world. It's stress.

And the disease of stress is the only disease that's actually in the world. Everything else, like there's about two dozen monogenetic diseases. You've got the gene, you've got the disease. The rest of them are all caused by socialization or actually dysregulation of stress. So the reason why people work out is they're trying to get rid of the stress. Well, some people have a genetic disposition, but it won't express without the stress. That's right. That's exactly what I'm saying. That rhymed. You guys can quote me. So the whole thing is that now what we've been able to do over the last couple of years is we've learned how to send people home with tools that actually have an impact. Because when I was stretching, I stretched because I had to stretch because I would get injured. That's the

same thing that I used to do. But if you could do something specifically, every time you had an issue, you knew exactly what to do for that exact issue. And the first thing that we do is we give people the ability to take 75% of their stress out in 10 minutes or less with just a couple quick things they do on their body. If you do that, then everything is better. Your digestion is better. Your brain is better. Your hormones are better. Your muscles are lo looser your fascia is looser and and in other words giving people the ability and giving them the uh the power to have the ability to feel good in their hands and if we can let people teach them how to feel good and they will actually go out and feel

good and create that then what happens is they need less therapy. And that was the whole point. The whole point wasn't to have people coming back. That was never our intention. And we used to have people come back about 12 times a year. And the funny thing over the last two years, it's gone to two times a year, which is good. It's once every six months.

Because I don't want them to come back to be okay. I want them to come back because they want performance. They want to gain, not because we have to fix them up again because if somebody's going back to a dog, if I'm good for like eight months and then I got to go back to somebody to get fixed, that's a problem.

That has to stop. That is not going to end well and that's what we're seeing right now as my generation's getting into the, I'm 50, so as my generation of athletes and performers are getting to that level, you're starting to see the accumulation of all the things that we've done wrong.

And at the time, we believed they were the right thing. Old fuckers know what they're talking about. That's what I know. Yeah. It took me a while. I had to experience some accumulation of bad lifestyle choices before i go oh the guy that's 60 that's telling me this he actually knows what the fuck he's talking about you know just before i went to the nationals in canada bodybuilding back in the 80s um

there was a guy that would come into the gym and i was i had about 400 pounds on a bench and he he would come in he was he was really really actually very well built and and he was he was actually pretty ripped too and he used to come in I'd see him come in and he would be when he would use canes to come in and and I never asked and then one day I got 400 on the bench, and he comes over afterwards, and he kind of just knocks me as he goes by, and he says, I used to lift like that too. That's why I use these canes, and it was a really, really big lesson that we need to step back and think about things differently, and I took his advice at that time, and I stopped. What were you doing wrong? I was doing everything wrong, and now I look back at it and I think, I think, well, it's crazy. I would never do those

things anymore, but what are we doing today that we think is the thing to do that in 10 years, we're going to 20 years, we look back and say, that was stupid. Yeah. So what we've noticed, especially with all the pro athletes coming in is that when we give them the two, first of all, we found that, for example, why do you have to stretch a muscle? We stretch muscles because they're tight. But why are they tight? Well, you know, we're talking about gravity as a rotational force. And we actually apply tension. Can you talk about tightness versus shortness?

Well, yeah. So if, like in your, this is a good one for hamstrings. If your quads are too tight, your pelvis rotates forward, your hamstrings feel like they're tight. Great if you're a stripper. Great, yeah. Absolutely. Hamstrings feel like they're tight, but they're tight because they're overstretched. Yeah. And so the tendency is to want to go to overstretch your hamstrings because they feel tight. Well, that's giving more leverage back to the quads and causing more of a problem but it's not even that simple because because we don't have tightness evenly front back side to side we we're dealing with rotation because

of gravity in the body so that's where it starts to mess up like for example if i'm standing and gravity's pulling down and i'm standing up against it, I'm creating tension. At the top of that tension cycle, I lock out my knees. Now the tension on my knees, because the knee is a round joint and I'm being pulled into a spiral, just slightly. This is like something that happens over decades. I get pulled in a spiral. I get uneven fascial tension on the kneecaps, on the patellas, and on the inside of the right knee for North America and on the outside of the left knee. And what that does is it makes all the muscles that approach the knee and are up to the patella,

it makes them all tighten up. And so what that would mean is that your lateralis, your rectus on your left leg is going to be tight and your adductor and your hamstring on your right leg is going to be tight. And guess what? 85% of the people that come in. That's true for me. 85% of the people have that problem.

But guess where all the stress is? In the 85%? Yeah. In North America. When they come from Australia. I'm average. They're the exact opposite. Because this force is implied on our body over time.

So what the new torque therapy is, we're able to take the torque out of the joints. And we discovered that actually the body, we're taught that the brain sends a signal to the muscles. The muscles move. Joints and bones and everything supports that movement. But in practice, it doesn't actually check out that way. We found and observed that actually the joints are moving and the muscles and tendons are supporting the joint movement. Now, the joints have mechanical receptors in them,

but it takes a second and a half for a nerve signal to go from the foot to the brain to the foot again. So how the heck, when you step off the curb onto a piece of glass, how do you move that fast? It's like you move instantly. And they explain it they say it's a ganglion reflex boom like yeah but that's not that's an unintelligent movement when i step on glass i'm moving in a direction that's an intelligent movement that means that

something other than the nervous uh pathways are sending a signal to the brain the brain's coordinating that activity faster than the speed of light which means that there's only one way through the joints. Yeah, it's interesting because the nervous system is it's like learned. Everything the nervous system has to do has to be learned. So if you do something, if you step on a piece

of glass and you move in a way that hasn't been moved before. Is that what you're saying? Well, what I'm saying is that if you think about how— I'm overthinking this, I bet. I'm overcomplicating it. A little bit. But basically, we're saying that it takes too long for a nerve signal

to go from the foot to the brain to the foot again to provide a movement that quick. The signals don't travel that fast. What I'm saying is that the way that we're taught that the body moves just doesn't functionally map out. You can't reproduce that in math. And so what we started looking at is actually the joints. The fascia we know is biophotonic.

Information moves at the speed of light. So the mechanical receptors in the joints, it appears to us that the joints are communicating and the muscles are supporting that movement. Because think about it this way. I, several years ago, locked my patella. Like it got frozen stuck. And the entire leg can't move. Even my feet don't move. So who's in charge?

The muscles or the joints? And then it was funny. I was looking at this whole study on robotics. And they were showing, and you think about a robot that's on an assembly line working and think about what, it's a bunch of joints moving. And so the engineers who, who are building robots studied human movement and they realized that, that we move through the joints. So that's where the communication is. And they never actually passed that information, I guess,

or the ones who study human mechanics never got the memo. Yeah, that happens in science a lot. Someone's really deep in one field. And I mean, it happens inside universities. For sure, absolutely. You know, different fields of study aren't talking to each other. Yeah, absolutely. And so it was like in Japan when they had Ayo, the first robot, they couldn't get it to walk. And for years and years, a young engineer comes in after about four years and they can't get the robot to walk. And he goes, oh, it doesn't have any toes. They put toes on it and it walks. issues in our body and we just we're just not understanding mechanics properly like for example we say we walk with our feet that's not true we actually walk with our hips our feet land but you

pick up your hip and you move your foot does the landing so when you have a pronation or supination you're not looking at the foot it's at the hip yeah what do you think about people that are uh get a good chuckle people go and they they go, I went to the running shoe store and I'm a pronator, so they gave me these special shoes and inserts. Yeah, and that's going to cause an injury. So if anything other than walking, standing and walking perfectly,

standing, walking, breathing, and digesting perfectly has to be repaired. If you're using anything to do it other than natural, it's going to cause a problem. Again, take the body and look at it from an engineering perspective. Forget about everything you've learned about the body. Let's just look at it from engineering. The body is a series of interdependent systems. In an interdependent system model, if one system doesn't work or quits working or works less, all the other systems have to compensate or the whole system shuts down. That's what our body is. You know, we have respiratory, all the other systems have to compensate or the whole system shuts down.

That's what our body is. You know, we have respiratory, breathing systems. We have our digestive system, skeletal, muscle, nervous system, glandular system, and they all have to work together. They all have an effect on performance. Like people come in and they're, you know, they want to perform better and they just want their muscles to work better. And they don't understand that. A lot of supplements revolve around that too there's this right there's hyper and intense focus on how do i get the muscle to recover faster yeah and i'm what i found is you know uh i don't need to be sucking down a bunch of whey protein i may want to be looking at my organ function for recovery perfect because because what what stops the muscles from recovering? Stress.

What is one of the major stressors in the body? Internal organ dysregulation. One of the biggest ones is liver. And if people don't even understand that, your liver meridian goes right from your nipple all the way down into the adductor. So your adductor really is your liver meridian. And what we found is that when we clear the... Massage the nipple.

We literally clear the meridian, like a liver meridian, and then all of the adductors and the muscles automatically release. We don't even do like a trigger point release anymore. And that kind of release, what we do is we literally just move the meridian, the fluid that's stuck on the meridian and the entire, like the quad. People tight quad and when you do therapy you have your elbow in there and and then all of a sudden it used to always amaze me that the quad would just like deflate and i'm like what would cause it to deflate i've wondered that for years now it's called magic gary magic with the program and then when you go down a stomach meridian on the quad and you just clear it the whole quad defates, but you don't have to put the whole, all the muscles into trauma

to make that happen. You just need one little line cleared. And so, you know, we were approaching therapy the wrong way. We weren't really understanding what the body was trying to do or try to show us. And so that's why we've made these changes. And what's cool about what we're doing today is a 45 minute session. Um, I, we can accomplish more than we used to in three weeks. And it's bizarre because it's so fast. So that's why for the first time ever,

we're allowing people to come in and not purchase a package. They can come in for individual sessions. And to put yourself out of business. That's kind of the goal. Yeah. That's, uh, so in business business they teach

that if you don't put yourself out of business somebody else will so you gotta keep innovating my only concern is to actually get the truth out do we know the truth? I don't even think we're close we are discovering stuff every week at the human garage

which is changing our paradigm we had a specific set of therapies that used to take six hours and now it's 15 minutes and and it's because as we keep drilling down we get closer and closer to what the real issue is and the internal organs are massive athletes they're the biggest problem i see with them is that they have liver issues they'll usually have kidney issues because of the protein consumption. They'll have liver issues because of everything that they're doing. And, you know, people say, well, I'm not drinking.

Well, that drinking is not going to be the one that gets your liver. It's all the other stuff that we're doing. The liver has to work too hard, like if you're not digesting properly. Your liver has to work too hard to clear because when you don't digest or if you're bloated and you're constipated, for example, the stuff stays in your food, stays in your system too long and the waste stays in there. So then the liver has to overwork to clean it out because it's not processing properly. When the liver starts to overwork, guess what?

It doesn't absorb the protein properly. So then it starts going for carbohydrates. And this is probably about two thirds of the athletes we see that their bodies are starting, their liver is really trying to keep up. So it goes starting to grab carbs and it can't absorb the protein. So they start getting achy in their muscles, achy in their joints. And when you're starting to get achy muscles and joints and they say, well, it's just working out. No, it's not. It's that's because your body's not able to recover. And that's the, one of the bigger things that we're finding right now. What are some signs that someone's digestion is not working well? Well, okay. Well, first of all, let's, let's separate digestion from elimination. People say

my bloating or I go to the bathroom every day. That doesn't mean you're digesting. That's first and foremost. That means you're processing. So digestion is the actual breakdown of food in the stomachs and the absorption of that food through the small intestine. And so one of the signs that happens when people aren't digesting, first of all, if you're bloating, that's usually a dysregulation in your valve between your large and small intestine. By the way, I used to be, most of my athletic career, I was bloated. Yeah. And I didn't know it. Yeah, I was too.

I was like, I thought that was the normal way. And then I got healthy. Yeah. And I, all of a sudden, I remember getting comments, you look good. It's like, I definitely lost some weight, but it was true. I go, oh, I didn't, I was always bloated. So I thought that was normal. And there was even jokes going around like, oh, I'm bloated, this and that.

But being not bloated feels really good. Absolutely. And so the bloating is usually, so when somebody's bloated a lot of, and forgetting if the ileal synchro valve is stuck because of dysregulated pressure, and that's a whole other story that we deal with. If the pressure is dysregulated and the valve gets stuck closed, you're going to be bloated. You're going to have a distension and you can have a bit of breathing anxiety at the top, but what's going to cause is constipation and then if it's if it's if the valve is stuck open it becomes diarrhea and and sometimes if it goes from diarrhea to constipation i think most athletes are got the uh

the valves open yeah they're like doing four scoops of some pre-workout and then spending time in the toilet before the workout. Absolutely. And so we, then we go back to digestion. So most people don't know if they're really digesting or not. So we use lab work because just because it comes, goes in and comes out or I don't have a, I don't have a bloated stomach, I think I'm digesting. But digestion is actually the extraction of like the aminos from the proteins and the terpenes from the plants.

And so that's, that's one of the bigger issues. Digestion is actually the extraction of like the aminos from the proteins and the terpenes from the plants. And so that's one of the bigger issues. So when somebody is not digesting, you'll have a couple of things. They're not absorbing nutrients properly. You're going to have, if they're not absorbing protein properly, you're going to have achiness in muscles and joints. And it starts to sneak up. And it's this kind of generalized fatigue. And if it gets extreme, then they'll start to become tired as a result. It moves into a kind of a chronic fatigue. And if it gets extreme, then they'll start to become tired as a result. It moves into

a kind of a chronic fatigue. If they're not digesting carbohydrates, what they're going to do is they're going to start to use their adrenaline. And you get about seven to 10 years of that. And then your adrenal starts to fail. And then you start to have more allergic, more food symptoms, food allergy symptoms. You're going to start to have issues with fatigue. You're going to be up wired before you go to sleep at night and stuff like that. And that's adrenal starting to fatigue. And then the third one is that when the body isn't absorbing and if the valve is stuck, like the illocinical valve, then the body doesn't absorb properly. And then the entire body then eats and never feels satisfied. So a lot of athletes are white-knuckling it, trying to diet.

And they don't realize that it's not the amount of food. They're just not absorbing nutrients. So that's why it's so hard to diet. And these things are easy to resolve. It's a little bit of manual therapy. And just actually looking, like with a special subclinical lab testing that we do, we can see exactly what's happening and then correct it. It never really takes very long.

Anywhere from 30 to 90 days for most of the time. And then there's the other things. Like if your adrenals are off, it's going to take about six to nine months to fix. Boom. Boom. I don't about six to nine months to fix. Boom. Boom. I don't even know what to ask you from here. What all has changed at the Human Garage since we hung out last? Massive changes.

Actually, I think this is the first time I've seen you in a year. Yeah. Is this week. And you're in a new spot. What did you think of the spot? It's super fucking cool. It's super cool. Super cool.

And it's a clubhouse. Yeah. People hanging out, rooftop decks. Yeah, you've changed your model because people have to come in less, it sounds like. And you've also identified that people can come in and get fixed. They can get therapy, but then they go back to old habits, bad habits. And so you're fixing people just for them to break themselves again and come back and forth.

Where's your focus now? What's changed and what's your focus now? More in education. and come back and forth. So yeah, where's your focus now? What's changed and what's your focus now? More in education. So our core line treatment, which we did, that's when you have three or four people working on you all the time at the same time. We're gonna actually stop doing that for 12 to 18 months

so we can start training external practitioners because we can't, the human garage, the way it sits right now, you just can't take and move. I can't set up in New York. I've tried to expand and go through that process. And either practitioners or quality issues, there's all kinds of little things. And we need some practitioners that have been out here working with our method for a while

so that we can actually start to expand the human garage treatment facility. Because it takes a practitioner about a year of using the therapy to really kind of understand what it's doing. Because at first it's just bizarre. It's like something that used to take three hours is three and a half, four minutes. And so it takes a while to translate that. So basically we're moving from a center that was treating about 100 new clients a month to down to about 15 or 20 new clients a month, which is going to create a bit more of a wait list. But what we were going to do is we're going to start training

all these practitioners so we can get them out there. And in the meantime, we're taking one-off clients for services like the chiropractic, the acupuncture, the visceral massage. We have spa treatments now because we have, you saw the spa. That's a pretty wicked spa. So legit. Looking forward to getting in there.

CBD and essential oil, steam with a hot or cold bath. I mean, that's pretty cool. And we're, you know, we're all the things that represent a healthy, conscious lifestyle from food to products to treatments.

We're actually offering all those up as services on a membership base. So people can come in, become a member, and then start using the services. Yeah. You said the word earlier. It's a clubhouse.

Clubhouse, yeah. This is a place where I can live and be perfectly content. Yep. Healthy food, space to move. Yeah. A rooftop with a sick view. Man was awesome last yeah yeah we hung out on the rooftop last night we we drank organic structured wine oh and that structuring device

that we use it man we're gonna have that out we'll have it actually on our site in a boat a month for people to buy. It's unbelievable, isn't it? I drink very infrequently. I drink, the last time I had more than a single drink was September. It's now the end of March. And one of the reasons I don't drink very much is because of the repercussions. How'd you feel this morning? I woke up early, earlier than I had, and I had tons of energy. I stayed up later. I woke up early. I'm top of my game. That structuring device is, you know what it does? I know people are fucking laughing right now,

but it's true. It is true. It is. So when you structure the, we use this as for water, you can actually, we have one that you can actually put on the main line of a house. I had a dream last night that I got into drinking. And yeah, and this may be your fault. I gave it up. I might be picking it back up. I can structure my booze. Sorry, go ahead.

Yeah, no, it was, so the structuring device, we even have a main line one you can put on the house. Now there's lots of science behind it. It's out of Germany. It's been the structuring device, we even have a mainline one you can put on the house. Now, there's lots of science behind it. It's out of Germany. It's been around for about 25 years. And you felt how heavy it was. You would normally structure water. But you can structure anything. Next level.

Anything. Coffee, anything. So any chemical. You tried structuring your pee and then drinking that? I haven't. Are you into that? No. No.

Okay. I haven't. Are you into that? No. No, okay. You know, one of our consulting physicians that we're partnering with is Dr. Joe. He also urgent points medical. His wife had bowel obstruction for 28 days. They flew her over to India. And this is where he became holistic thought process because he's a vascular surgeon too. And they flew her over india and the

ayurvedic guy comes in basically says you have to start drinking your urine so she started drinking her urine and three days later boom it all cleared and and so she was at the point because at 20 i know people who swear by it oh i i've never drank my urine i I feel like I need to, though. Well, if I do it, I'm going to try. I've got to try everything. But I heard you've got to do it when you're sick. It's going to help you get better. Well, we'll have to structure it.

Be the first structured urine drinking. Probably not. I know people who drink their urine and are in the structured water. I'm pretty sure they've structured their pee. The pretty cool part is that... But wouldn't pee already be structured? You pee it out, it's... I was thinking that on the way out. Your body's structuring it. It's definitely sanitary.

It's filtered. We don't think about being that way, but it's sanitary, right? So the cool part about these structuring devices is that it makes whatever the beverage is more this structuring devices, uh, is it, it, it makes the, whatever the beverage is more adaptable to us. So like you said, you drink the wine, but it didn't feel like you had any at all.

And we had a little bit. I mean, yeah, I, I, I've had one scotch and the last since new year's, new year's, I had one glass of champagne. And before that, I had I don't know how many whiskey drinks with Mark England's dad. But he tried to fucking kill me. I had a four-day hangover. But, yeah, I digress. Last night, I probably had a bottle of wine to myself.

I had four glasses of wine. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Maybe five. I felt good. Yeah. I was enjoying myself and then dreamt about drinking. Drinking. You know, there's just, generally, there's a lot of things that we do,

you know, both internal and external, even workouts and things that we do that are either good or not so good for us. You know, and what we've spent the time is we've learned, and the way that we've become successful with working with people is we've learned how to teach people what is good and what's not good for them. And quite frankly, it's hard to actually know these days because when you go read on any topic, especially if it's controversial, it's polarized.

You'll have two people, PhDs from separate universities saying the exact opposite thing. Of course. And somebody's got to be lying. You know, good for you, not good for you. And so people are, especially the… Whether they know it or not. Right.

They're both fibbing. And the younger generation is actually at that point now where they're starting to say, hey, I don't even believe science. So what we're trying to do is provide, using the house, interaction with products and services. All right, hang on. Some people just fucking flew off the handle. Why wouldn't you believe science? Yeah, exactly.

You know, it's just because it's been hijacked. I don't think the process is wrong. I think the fact that, you know, we recently, there's been about 100 PhDs that have lost their tenure, actually up on charges in mainstream universities across countries. Very quiet, obviously, for those reasons. But it's because they're… Science is on a pedestal. It's published. Kind of like the Catholic Church, you know.

Exactly. Keep it going. Well, if it was for science, the human garage therapy wouldn't even be around today. You know, we would be 10, 15 more years before we even talked about it. But we are applying the changes daily. This is really important because the way that science works is every study contributes to this whole understanding. So no single study in itself is really that important, but when you pile up a million studies, it starts to tell a story.

And it is troublesome when people are being paid to create studies that are telling a story that whoever's funding it wants to be told. And if that happens enough, then you end up with, the scientific method ends up getting bastardized. And now we end up with things that are not so accurate. And that's, listen, that is rampant through the medical, the health, and through the sports and nutrition industry. It's rampant.

And there's a lot of things that rampant. And what, you know, there's a lot of things that people believe and we test everything and we just find a lot of it not to be true. And so we just don't agree with science. We agree with what works. And if we've used it, it works and we've reproduced that, then we get our clients to do it. And that's the simple process. The whole thing is to empower people to take care of themselves. I don't want them coming back to me to feel good. They should have the ability to feel good in their own hands. And that comes back down to, first of all, taking out stress. If you can remove your stress response daily. And by the way, stress, let's just uncouple that. Everybody thinks stress is job, work, IRS, cars, traffic. Those are

stressors. Women. Women. My response to those is stress. And that's what we give you the control of. Your ability to control the amount of stress response, which is the amount of hormones that are produced. And when you do that, your body just feels better. You perform better. You sleep better. You look better. Right now, we've got all these young guys come in with low testosterone like 30 years old.

Super common. I'm like, they're trying to boost the testosterone. No, no. Take down the adrenaline because the adrenaline is what's suppressing it i mean i i had i had um testosterone production issues in my late 20s early 30s and yeah i was stressed the fuck out yeah yeah i was working a lot i i um and it wasn't like you're saying it wasn't, like you were saying, it wasn't the work. It was my answer to every issue was more.

What supplement can I take? My testosterone is low. I got to take this, you know, I got to take tribulus, trustus, and this herb, and this and that to help boost it. And yeah, maybe boosting it. But, you know, three months later, I still have the same problem. It's a bathtub analogy. You know, you can turn on the water. You can plug the hole.

If we don't plug the hole, what we're doing is just turning on more water. Yeah. The primary issue – It works until it doesn't work. Yeah. See, guys feel great. I've got all kinds of energy. I'm going really good because they're on adrenaline.

But that is a 7- to 10-year window. After that, it's going to be crash and chronic fatigue. And that's what's starting to happen, people. And it's starting to be in the early to mid-30s now. And women, on the other hand, are actually, because of all the toxicity that they're coming into. This is one reason, one of my core beliefs around fitness is in order to be fitter we need to be having more fun a hundred percent yeah and we're not having fun you're about to get so so

if you so when you're in stress you are not having fun you're distracted yeah your brain's designed not to have fun you may be pretending you're having fun, but having fun is having fun. I had to go places and people had to teach me how to have fun. I'm still learning. I'm a student. I'm a student of fun. I have some problems with that myself. But it was like last night was fun. Yeah. Yeah. That was a good time. Yeah. So, you know, our whole process is people, our biggest issue is people from all over the world, and especially all of the United States and Canada, keep calling. We get more requests to come for human garage treatment from outside of L.A. than we do in L.A. And the other reason for us to now finally start training people external to us,

what our therapy is and what our method is, is because there are over 600 active requests in New York for our treatment. And if I have one or two practitioners there, then they're going to be busy. And that's why we're going to start the training and certification program and just letting people get out and start using what we know. And more importantly is to start helping collect. This is, this is open source for therapy. We're not, I want people to contribute and to develop and it shouldn't be us developing. Yeah. Yeah. When we put it in the hands of, of a whole bunch of smart practitioners, I can't even imagine where this is going to go because I didn't even have the, I didn't even have the knowledge to bring this to what, I mean, the people that work for me

have much more experience than I do, but the, but the discoveries of how it worked was just things that just happened at, uh, and, and just like one day waking up in a dream and thinking maybe I should turn my knees and boom, that was the whole beginning of the therapy so we want to put the hands of the therapy and practitioners let them get out there we have people all over the all the country all over the world that want this and start just start the the movement of people actually getting good care and knowing what to do about and more importantly is putting the the tools back in the hands of the client. Rad. I'm going to use this opportunity to talk about the party.

Yeah. We got two events coming up at the Human Garage. We are looking forward to it. Yeah. So the Human Garage is in Venice, California. And people ask me all the time, you know, when are you going to come here or there? There are airplanes, and you can fly here.

There's like five airports in the area. I highly recommend using the plane. And so we're going to throw a party. Let's see if I got the dates. It was May. Texted. All right, May 18th, we're having a party. We are having a party on May 18th. Uh, and then on June 15th, we're doing a full day seminar plus party. So absolutely. Uh, the way this is going to work is, um, if you want to, I'm going to be posting stuff on my Instagram about it, but if you want to get an email about it, go to enlifted.me. If you're on that newsletter list, we'll be promoting it there. Now the party

on the 18th, uh, we just, we planned it last night. Yeah. So we'll, uh, we'll be getting details out. If you're on the human garage newsletter list, if you're on the enlifted newsletter list, um, or the strong coach newsletter list, if you're on the Enlifted newsletter list, or the Strong Coach newsletter list, then you will be getting an email and an invitation. This is at a

house. There's only 120. We can only let 120 people in. It's going to be DJ'd. This is going to be a fun party. This isn't like a... It's not a little house. It's a big house. It's a massive house.

It's a big house. This isn't the type of party where we're going to sit around and play cards and drink and eat snacks. This is DJs are going to be coming in. There's going to be lasers. I know you love lasers, folks.

I don't know if you do or not, but I do. It's going to be full on, uh, and it's right in the heart of Venice. It's, it's a scene, uh,

that's going to be on May 18th. So make sure you're on the list. So you get notified, be paying attention to Instagram. Um, and then June 15th, we're doing something really cool. Bringing in,

uh, Brandon Powell, right? Who is one of Wim Hof's top guys. And he's going to be doing a breath and ice. Brandon and I co-facilitated a workshop together in Richmond, Virginia. It was awesome. I got some one-on-one breath work with him.

He uses a drum. Wow. And it's a journey. It's a journey. And I tell you what, I walk away from doing work with him and I'm much more resilient, you know, mentally, emotionally, physically, between the ice and the breath. And when this guy talks, it's, you're just like, oh shit, this all makes so much sense. Kind of like when you talk, you start talking, oh, that makes sense.

He's one of those guys. We only hang out with people who make sense when they talk. And so what we're going to do on June 15th is we're going to have a full day seminar. And we're going to do the breath and ice. And we're going to be in the ice on the rooftop with a beautiful view. It's a wild view.

Wild view. We're looking at only 20 spots for that seminar during the day, and then that night we're going to do, we'll open up an extra 100 spots for the party. For the party. So if you only want to do the party, you can come for that, but I highly recommend you come and and do the seminar it's going to be a great seminar i can't wait to to actually be a part of that myself yeah yeah i'm really

really really excited have you done ice much like breath and ice i have done breath and ice yeah we were trialing it out in our spa because we have the the hot coal or cbd steam cbd bath with the got a cbd steam shower yeah bath. Get a CBD steam shower? Yeah, CBD essential oil steam shower. It's so bizarre because you get in there and it's like all of a sudden. You put CBD in it, I'll do it. You know, and then coming up next month is our first. We have a self-care course for anybody.

They don't have to be a practitioner and it's a full day next actually coming up this next week well we might not be on there but i was gonna say this this may post after yeah it might post after but uh later next month we're doing our first practitioner training and you have to be a minimum level uh you have to be a personal trainer with biomechanics experience and then any other certification, ART, chiropractor, physical therapist, whatever. So we're doing our first certified training and our intention is that once we have these people certified, we're going to be sending, especially if they're living in remote locations, we're going to

be starting to send business to them because we need to fill the requests that are outside of LA. And so if you're a practitioner out there and you're interested, you need to come to our website, take a look at the courses and get signed up for that. And we're going to actually level up the courses. You know, this whole thing about creating like five different levels, I was like, no way. We're basically, we're going to create a level and keep re-educating people because the therapy is changing literally weekly. We're getting better and better and better. And we want to create this equal system of people, of practitioners out there contributing to all help.

Yeah. Because that's where we're going to make strides. thing is going right now is the exchange of information is so high in the world that nothing is static. If something stays static for very long, it's going to be outdated because people are constantly evolving whatever it is that they're doing. What's really cool is to be a part of the process as it's evolving. That's exactly what we want. It's never going to be finished. We want process as it's evolving. That's exactly what we want. Because it's never going to be finished. And we want the minds of these practitioners.

I mean, we have people come from all over the world to the Human Garage because of the way that we work and we increase performance. And performance gains are immediate. If you're just an athlete and you're not really busted up, maybe got a few aches and pains, absolutely, even one session, immediately it boosts your performance.

I've had a lot of athletes who, man, I've walked into the human garage and people greet me who are working there and going, I found out about this because of the show. Yeah. And I run into athletes who they came in and got work done. They go, wow, this solved a problem that I'd been having for a long time. And people are pleasantly surprised. I encourage you, for those of you listening, to check it out in any capacity you can.

Any capacity. You want to come in and just have a session? We have actually now, for the first time in six and a half years, we're offering that. So you can come in without being on a package. And the other thing is, if you're a practitioner, we need your help. There's more people that want what we do than we can deliver. Yeah. So what do they do if they want to, for both practitioners that want to level up and for potential customers to come in and check it out, what do they do?

There's three things. If you're a client and you want to learn how to take care of yourself, we have workshops that we're doing probably about once a month. We have one coming up, like I said, right now. But you can look for those. Self-care tune-up shops. If you're a practitioner that wants to come in, we have the level one certification happening. They can get both of those on our site.

And if you're just interested in coming in and actually trying to understand what's going on in your body, we do that as a consultative process with treatment. So we actually do treatment in the consultation. And part of it is because you never really know until you touch the body. It doesn't matter how smart or how much you've done it. When you touch the body, things change. And so part of the consultation has to have that kind of hands-on. And so they can come in for one of those. And they can get that on our website. If they join a wait list, they just put down Mike Bledsoe or Bledsoe Show in the bar.

We'll pull them right off the wait list and pull them up to the front. Get special treatment, folks. Yeah, absolutely. For sure. So the website is? It's humangarage.net. Humangarage.net. So if you're on their list or if you're on my list,

then you'll be notified when we throw parties, when we do seminars. Absolutely. And then if you want all the stuff that they're doing that does not involve me, make sure you're subscribed over at humangarage.net. Anything else we need to say? I think that's it right now.

I'm excited about this journey that we're going on together. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be fun. I think that's an understatement. It's going to get rowdy. It's going to get rowdy. It's going to get rowdy, folks. And if you want to be a part of this,

because five years have rolled by and you're like, oh, I knew that was happening. I didn't go. I could have been there at the beginning. That's what's going to happen. Alright, thanks for joining me today. Alright, we know you love the show. Go give those five star reviews.

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Training camp for the soul, May 30th through June 5th. Only two spots left. And on June 15th, we have 20 spots available, uh, for the enlifted workshop at the human garage, uh, with Brandon Powell coming in to, uh, freeze our asses off, teach us to breathe better. Uh, this is really a shamanic experience. You're going to really, really enjoy it. And if you're a coach, we would love to have you in the coaching program over at the Strong Coach, getting amazing results, really looking to make a huge impact on the fitness industry. There's a lot of things that are going well, and there's a lot of things that are not going well. So we're trying to make it better. And we're starting with the trainers over there.

And then for you athletes out there that want to take that, you want to develop your cognition like you've been developing your fitness, like your physical fitness. Well, we should have, we have cognitive fitness as well. Let's make sure these things really match up because what I found is if you lack cognitive fitness, that's actually going to be limiting your physical fitness, especially in the long run. And it helps you skip some steps. All right, folks, thanks for joining me today. And I will talk to you next week.