Barbell Shrugged - The Terrifying Truth Of The “School Lunch” — Real Chalk #72

Episode Date: April 23, 2019

5 billion lunches are served annually through the National School Lunch Program.   In this podcast we touch on the quality of food that your kids are actually eating at school, the macros in the food, and the terrifying statistics that follow when digested.   Obesity rates have tripled since 1980. Something needs to be done. At the current rate, 40% of girls in elementary school right now will one day be diagnosed with Type 2 diabetes. About 3 out of every 4 students is either overweight or obese right now and they will retain that weight as they get older.   In addition, students who eat school lunch are more than 4 times likely to obtain significantly less information than their healthy lunch brining counterparts. They are less likely to want to do physical activity. And they downright just don’t have the same brain development as kids who are eating healthy.   I’m personally sickened by this. I’m hoping this podcast will help educate many and scare them just enough to do something at your next school meeting or force parents to help meal prep for their kids.   YOU are helping create your children’s future by the food you feed them everyday. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show notes: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/rc-maher ------------------------------------------------------------------------------► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/ barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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kids' school lunches and the quality of food that is going into your kids' foods, or maybe you haven't had kids yet, but this is something that you should know for the future because it's always nice to know as much as you can about the health industry in all aspects. So children is a really big topic. Don't you agree? Absolutely. And everything that we are today is partially because of the things that we ate when we were kids. Right. Which was not very good. Not all the time. So I think that I could have been a much better ryan fisher if i had eaten some of the things that we're going to talk about in a minute here so um i'd like to kick it off just so you guys understand the magnitude of how big school lunches are for kids is um five billion

lunches are served annually at schools so that's elementary schools and high schools. That's a staggering figure. It's an insane number, right? So the obesity rates have tripled since 1980. And at this rate, 40% of girls in elementary school right now will be diagnosed with type 2 diabetes. 40% of them. That's half the chicks in school right now, in elementary and high school, are going to have type 2 diabetes just because of the food that's in the lunches. And about three out of every four students will become overweight and hold on to that into their adolescence just because it is now a platform for who they are.

Right. That's all they learned. Yeah, and a lot of people, they can't bounce back from that. Three out of four. Three out of four, three out of 75% are going to be fat. That's insane. So I just wanted to kick the podcast off with that, just so you guys understand the magnitude of what we're about to talk about, how important it is.

Um, but right now we'll just hit on Dan's background just so you guys can, you know, uh, latch on to him a little bit and understand why we're both here and why we're both talking about this topic. I think I originally brought it up because we were talking about food, and you said that you were about to start getting into the schools. Yes. So what have you seen in the schools right now?

Is there anything that you've seen particularly that bothered you or anything like that? Well, it started with when I started my meal prep company. Most of the people always – I'd say 99% are looking to lose weight, lean out, lose weight. Okay. That's, it's simple, but it's hard for a lot of people. Everybody says the same thing. You're like, all right, what are you looking for? Right.

I want to lose fat and gain a bunch of muscle. It's like, okay. All right. Well, well, and you know, you do it too. Cause I'm a member of CrossFit Shock. I work out here. I see the challenges all the time that you post. And the people that commit to it go through these amazing changes.

They get amazing results. Yeah. And then they piss it right back away again. For the most part. I mean, I don't know. I haven't talked to anybody on the challenge. Actually, a lot of them actually have been sticking to it and getting even better. Actually, no one's emailed me and said I bounced back.

But typically when it comes to challenges, I would say people usually bounce back because they go back to some sort of – I mean, they think of their old diet like a fucking candy bar. They're dying to get back to it. So once the diet's over – Then it's like dying to get back to it. Right. So once the diet is over – Then it's like, oh, well, look. I've done so well. I can let myself go a little bit and then – That's why I try to just live by the earn your carbohydrates motto.

So my whole challenge is – I call it carb cycling because it is what it is. I mean you're having higher days some days and lower days other days. And it's really important for people to understand that, like, you know, that is the majority of the reason why you're holding excess body fat usually is because of too many carbohydrates. Absolutely. I think even like, I never understood when I wasn't actually, this is a great thing that happened to me when I was in high school, we were talking about nutrition and one of my teachers was super into nutrition. I just got lucky because nowadays like you don't know anything. Uh, but she was like, all right guys, we're gonna, she gave everybody or she brought a box of cereal and she poured a bowl of cereal. And she's like, how many of you guys would eat this bowl of cereal? And literally we

were all like, that is the smallest bowl of cereal I've ever seen. And she's like, this is one serving of cereal. And then she asked someone to come up and be like, don't try to be funny or anything. Just pour me a bowl of cereal that you think you would normally eat. And this little girl poured a bowl of cereal. And it was like three and a half servings. I mean, it was a massive number of calories. And then, yeah, then you read what the carbohydrate, the sugar content is. It even says like other carbohydrates, you know, on the box, like, you know, God knows what that

is. There's like all these different things going on. And I'm just like, you know, wow, that was the first time that I realized, you know, how messed up like our understanding of nutrition was. And I've had my mom on the show. For those of you who've listened to that episode, she didn't know any better. When I was a kid, she was giving us fruit snacks because it said it was made with real fruit. Yeah. And she brings it to the dentist and the dentist is like, all of your kids teeth are falling out. And my mom's like, I don't know, I give them fruit snacks all the time. Like, and she's like they're like fruit snacks that's just like sugar sugar yeah my mom had no idea and sadly i think that there's still a lot of that happening there nobody reads labels at all

right and they get caught up in the oh it's gluten-free so it must be healthy i got stuck in that in college too right i i heard of the the gluten-free little – I don't know whatever you want to call it. But I remember just walking around an organic grocery store, and I thought it was cool because it was organic. And then I saw Oreos, and I was like, holy shit. I can eat Oreos. All right. They're good for me now. It's for sure healthy.

I didn't read anything on the label. I just assumed it said organic. I was in an organic grocery store. It's got to be good. It's got to be good for me. label. I just assumed it said organic. I was in an organic grocery store. It's got to be good. It's got to be good for me. Nope. I just had like no idea, you know.

It's so sad. And that was it. You know, I played college through football and was athletic. And, you know, the whole point of football was being as big, strong, and fast as possible. Yep. And afterward, I didn't want to be big anymore. I didn't need to be 210 pounds. I think that happens to most people, even NFL players. Right.

And you can go, a lot of them go one of two ways. But every time I was working out, because I didn't understand how to eat, I would just get bulky again. And it wasn't until years later, you know, got married, got fat, and then figured out the marriage was over. And then I don't know if it's like some sort of innate response that you have that when you know you're going to be single again, you're like, I got to clean this shit up. Oh, the revenge body. Yeah. Just walking by the mirror going, oh, that's not going to work.

And then I ran into a buddy of mine who hadn't seen in a while, and he probably had lost 40 pounds. I'm like, dude, what are you doing? And he just said, I'm eating less. I'm like, eating less? What? It's like, instead of two pieces of chicken, I have one. And it was just like revelation, right? Eat less.

Yeah. So I started with portion control back then. And then my oldest daughter is deathly allergic to dairy eggs and peanuts. Oh, wow. So already kind of made that transition away from dairy at that same time. And then when I got into CrossFit, got my level one cert, and they were talking about the importance of weighing and measuring your food to get results. And these two girls behind me were like, oh, meal prep is so hard. If somebody did it, I would totally pay for that.

I'm like, hmm, okay. So there's a need for it. People don't understand portion control for the most part, right? Because you go out to dinner, what's a steak? If you get a ribeye, it's 12, 14 ounces. Yeah. And God knows what it's 12, 14 ounces. Yeah. And God knows what it's cooked in, like how much butter or whatever. So you don't really know what you're getting.

Right. That's why I always tell people, like if you're doing a challenge for yourself or you have some sort of body in mind that maybe it's not a challenge, but you're just trying to get somewhere like casually, eating out is always going to be so gnarly. I mean. It is. Unless you can eyeball what you should be eating and be able to take home leftovers and make those substitutions. Yeah. All right. Instead of getting the mashed potatoes, ask for extra vegetables.

But you still just don't know exactly what you're getting. No, you don't. I mean, a lot of those steaks at the restaurants, they're trying to make them so good that you can't think about anything else. Right. And because it's not usually the greatest cut of beef either. There's probably that going on and you got like probably a half a stick of butter. At least. I mean, go ahead and add, what is that, like 50 grams of extra fat that you have no idea.

Like, all right, well, I just ate a ribeye. I looked it up on MyFitnessPal and it was, you know, 600 calories. And in reality, it's like 1,100 calories because you're not factoring in that fat. If you just take, yeah, you look under MyFitnessPal ribe ribeye well it doesn't have anything else on it yeah just the meat portion so yeah so portion sizes start to become a thing and this is actually in the beginning of crossfit i assume right yeah so zone diet was massive yep huge deal because it was so simple to follow right and i think for a lot of people if you're not a professional athlete, you know, macro accounting can be hard. It's a pain in the ass. Right. And so I just try to simplify it for

everybody. And so with my clients, with, with the way I do it, it's just tell me what you're trying to do and I'll tell you which program to go on and just keep it simple. Yeah. All right. Cause if you overthink it, it becomes overwhelming. It becomes too much math. It becomes too much prep and people bail out. So have any of these people, do they have kids where they're like, they want you to have, start making meals for them? Yeah.

And how has, have you seen anything like interesting come out of that? Like, you know, the kids are either gaining weight or they're getting leaner or they're, you know, more motivated. For the high schools now getting into, so I started working with some NFL prospects, and it was a complete different focus from, like I said, most of my clients who want to lean out, lose weight. It was we need to gain weight and healthy weight. So one of my clients in two and a half months, we put on 20 pounds, and he lost 4% body fat doing it. Wow. It's like, okay, well, I know what I'm doing is working.

I know I got the formula for it. And then I sponsor Jason Carroll, Christian Lucero, and the amount of food for them. Which, for those of you out there who don't know those names for any reason, those are CrossFit Games athletes. Yes. They're really good at what they do. They're pretty good at what they do. And the amount of food that they eat on a daily basis just to maintain. Now, these aren't, like, big NFL guys.

About 3,500 calories, right? Maybe about that? At least. Yeah. Especially if they're working out a ton. Yeah. Two, three days. Yeah.

Yeah, that if they're working on a ton, like game day. Yeah, two, three days. Yeah, that's intense. So then I said, all right, well, I know when I was in high school, I didn't know how to eat, right, for performance-wise. No idea. So – Pasta parties, right? Yeah, pre-game meal, pasta. I worked at a pizza parlor during high school, and the owner is just, like, carb-loading me. Like, here, take pasta, sandwiches. I'm from New Jersey.

The only thing that you can eat, I swear to God, if you drive down the street right now in my neighborhood, because I went home recently and I was like, God, how did I live here? Like, the only thing you can eat is, for those of you who don't know, I live in New Jersey, or I'm from New Jersey. The only thing you can eat is pizza or like cannolis.

Yep. Or. Yeah, it's pizza or like cannolis. Yep. Or – Yeah, it's pizza shops. It's bakery shops. Or like IHOP. Like legit. And like the only healthy thing that you can find and like let's define what healthy is but like Subway. That's your healthiest option.

And I mean everyone is like, I really want to eat something healthy. Let's go to Subway type of thing. And you're like, holy shit. What time zone have I gone into? You get a footlong sub. It's made out of, like, chicken that, you know, jumped off the Empire State Building. It's like completely hated its life. It's the last.

And then it's covered in, like, a 200-gram carb piece of processed bread that God knows what that thing came out. Oh, and if you get the cheese, that's just – I mean all of it. Yeah. I mean those chicken patties, I can only imagine what those are made out of. I mean they have so much like air inside of them, and they're just like rubbery. I don't know. They're very strange to me.

Yes. It's very, very strange. So – Yeah, so I saw that these high school kids – and I went to my high school first and go on a lifting day, and these kids are working their ass off in the weight room. Big old warehouse, kind of like a CrossFit gym, just sweat and put in the time. And then either they're not eating afterward or they've got pizza, burritos, things like that. So you're putting all this work in, and the most important factor of it to help build and get you where you want to go, they're completely ignoring. So I talked to the coaches. They're like, yeah, we definitely have a deficiency there.

We need to get these kids on the right path. And, you know, I came in with my stories working with the NFL guys. So, yeah, we can put on weight on these kids, healthy weight. And not only are they going to be better athletes, they're going to be better students. Yeah. Because they're going to have maintained energy throughout the day. They're going to sleep better, you know, better cognitive responses. So I have some stats on that, too, just as far as being better students. There are some studies where we have once kids got

off of the school lunch and started bringing their own lunch that was healthy from their parents in the u.s it was 20 percent less uh absentees so like throughout the year they had 20 percent uh better attendance wow 20 in india i mean it's not super relevant but they had a 40 increase i mean the food out there is you know obviously much harder yes and i've had actually someone actually someone on my carb cycling challenge who won he works in india as a teacher really and he sent me his before and after photos i was completely blown away and um he was saying you know the food out here is like it's's really, really hard. To eat healthy. Yeah, to eat healthy. Another thing – I mean a couple other stats is students who ate school lunches are four times more likely to not want to participate in after-school activities.

So their energy levels are low. Everything is kind of messed up. Hormones are probably getting out of whack, especially at that age when your hormones are kind of raging and they're not really getting the right calories that they need to really support those hormones. They don't really feel like working out or anything like that, especially video games right now. I'm not even going to get into that, but that's taking people down. And then another statistic that we talked about right before the show was kids that are eating school lunches are four times, it's 350% more likely to not retain the information they're hearing in class. So as they're in class, they're literally just one ear and not the other.

And a lot of it is attributed to their nutrition. Yeah, because you're going through these carb cycles of too much sugar. You get your spike. So you're jittery. You're not going to retain anything. And then you have your crash. You're about to sleep. You're not going to retain anything and it's this constant wave of up and down up and down and which like you say all those insulin spikes leads to the diabetes yeah

so yeah so there's your 40 of your girls right there that are going to be diabetics after after high school for the rest of their life um yeah it's insane anyway if you're a parent out there right now and you're not terrified yet then we need to talk you're doing something really wrong yeah you should really really be concerned with this and it's a big deal because brain development is a big deal so when you're young and your brain is developing and you start putting the wrong things in there especially fat content so that's why i freak out so much about canola oil and some of these cheaper oils is when they're the, the fat that you're eating is the building blocks of your brain. Like your brain is built up of, it's more than 50% fat. I can't remember what the numbers are. I want to say it's like 70 or 80%. So now

you have this brain that's being built with like styrofoam blocks, you know, when you eat these shitty oils or shitty fat, when it could be built with bricks, you know, so like, you got to make sure that you're looking at the heat content of some of your oils, making sure it doesn't break down. Just making sure you're cooking with the right things, you're adding the right things in when you do eat fat, it's this or it's that. And, you know, just being more conscious and aware. I don't know, what do you think we would have to do to get some of this education into the schools? I'm sure people have tried. There can't be –

Well, here's the problem is the dairy industry and the providers of school lunch programs, it's a huge, staggering amount of money. Yeah. So they've basically bought off the unions and the schools and the school districts. So to get them to change, you're talking about a lot of money disappearing from the program. So that's an uphill battle. But you got to put it on the parents. It's got to start with the program. So that's an uphill battle, but you got to put it on the parents. It's got to start with the parents. It's got to start at home that I'm going to put in a little extra time to either one, make my kids meal if they're too young or empower their kids and teach them what a good meal is and have them make it themselves. That's what my parents did for us. We had to make our

own lunches. Dude, when I was in high school, the only thing I lived on was legitimately Gushers. The fruit snack Gushers. Yes. Like I would ride my bike all over town, all over the place, and I would just be fueling myself with Gushers. Gushers. Literally, I would just have like a whole box of Gushers and like I can't believe – like even when I was in high school, I was like pretty ripped. I had abs and stuff. I was running on the track team and like, man, my diet was fucked.

It's the old adage, right? If I knew then what I know now. And, you know, for the most part, and that's, I think, a big challenge too because high school kids are invincible, right? Like you said, if you're ripped as a teenager and you're eating whatever you want, you're like, why am I going to change? It still tastes good but those few that you can get through that understand that it's just not about taste it's not about um you know what it what it does for you um psychologically but that food is fuel and that your body is this high-class engine. And the better fuel you put in it, the better it's going to perform.

So that's when everything changed for me. I had someone tell me. I was a young kid. I was like maybe 17, 18, and I was in the gym. And there was this guy that I really looked up to working out. His body was insane. And I had never really talked to him very much. I started talking to him.

We would do little ab workouts together before I would leave the gym. He was super nice to me. I was like, is there any tips you can give me that you think would be something that can change everything for me? He's like,

every single thing you put in your body, make sure it has a purpose. He's like, don't ever just eat food ever again. And like literally my mind is exploded. I just was like, so, and he'd be like, well, you need protein for this. You need carbs for this. You need fat for this, whatever. He didn't give it all. He didn't break it all down for me.

I went home and like researched a little bit more, i i remember you know every time i pick up a fork now and i'm looking at you know a sweet potato or something i really want to eat i'm like well should i have this right now or you know should i eat like 10 more handfuls of nuts or should i just eat one right or like now like there's never a time that goes by where i'm about to eat something and i don't think about what it's going to do for me now always even drinks like water all day long like hey man you want a coconut water here it's free you know what i mean i'm like ah fuck i can't yeah i can't too much sugar like i'll drink it later yeah give it to me and i'll drink it later and the whole time it's it's like ice cream on my mind i'm like thinking about it you know because we crave sugar like nobody's business

it's crazy so i'm sitting there just like dying thinking about it but i can't tell you how many people are probably listening to the show right now they're like coconut water's fine dude what are you talking about and they're like it's healthy we'll go look at the fucking label right and eat the label yeah you're about to have you're gonna see 16 grams of sugar on a label but it's gonna say two and a half servings you probably didn't even notice Yeah, you're about to have – you're going to see 16 grams of sugar on a label, but it's going to say two and a half servings. You probably didn't even notice. And now you're drinking like 40 grams of sugar. You had no idea.

There's a Coke. Yeah. Might as well just drink a Coke. Yeah. It's insane. But then there's different types of sugar and this and that. Right. But I mean –

At the end of the day. At the end of the day. And I would still rather have ice cream than that coconut water right so sometimes I'll actually after workouts I'll go home and I'll eat fucking like a fat-free ice cream yeah or like a very minimal fat ice cream like there's this one brand right now it's called swell have you had that yeah oh my god it's only got like two grams of fat it's got a lot of protein and then a bunch of carbs in it but I mean I mean, post-workout snack, it's great. Right.

I crush it all the time. There's your treat. It's perfect timing. It is. You know, when you start looking at food as fuel, and, you know, you get this kickback all the time. I get it too, is, well, what about your cheat days? I'm like, what about it? What about, like, your cheat meal? I mean, I feel like your post-workout meal is your cheat days i'm like what about it yeah what about like your cheat meal

i mean i feel like your post-workout meal is your cheat day right it kind of is like it can be yeah if you want a full-blown gnarly cheat day like pizza and stuff like that then i think i think you should have something like that either i mean if you're a high-volume training athlete, I think you can have it once a week. Absolutely. If you're a parent or something and working out is still pretty hard for you and your diet is on point, I still don't think you can have one every week. I think it's more like every other week. Because it's going to make you feel like shit, and it's going to detract from the goals that you're setting. Yeah.

And you're not working out hard enough. You know what I mean? I think the once a week. To offset that. Right. Yeah. The once a week cheat day is really for like some pretty badass athletes. Right.

In my opinion. For me, it's probably maybe a cheat meal a week. And even not that. Because it makes me feel like shit. Like if I have a couple of slices of pizza, I know it's going to make me feel almost hung over the next day. So typically what I like to stick to is eat super clean Monday through Friday. If I get in, have a good hard workout on Saturday morning, leave Saturday as a cheat meal, maybe have a couple of cocktails.

And then Sunday – You know. You know, because I'm not a professional athlete. And Sunday, I won't fast per se, but I'll eat a lot less because of the extra calories I had on Saturday. And basically take Sunday to reset my body for the week ahead. So that's something i actually read about so if you are going to have a cheat day you're saying that are not you're saying but some stuff i was reading some people i've talked to on my many podcasts is intermittent fasting is like one of the best things you can do the next day to kind of like balance out yeah the extra let your body get through all those calories that you had yeah so you just crush that one day and the next day don't eat until like 2 a.m. or something.

Yeah. And it kind of balances out. You'll get satiated a little bit faster, and it'll be a little bit better. And it allows you to bounce back and reset quicker. Yeah. So back to these school lunches. How old are you?

I'm 49. 49, and I'm 32, almost 33. So let's just talk about what we had when we were in high school so for me i remember every day was like a different day of food that we were gonna have one day was pizza day one day was cheesesteak day one day was you know an hamburger yeah and it was pretty much all the pretty much everything you would never want to eat every day. Fast food. And with chocolate milk. Oh, yeah.

So now you're washing it down with all sorts of extra sugar and just – it's a carb festival. It is. Well, for mid – when we had the mid-morning break and the snack was open, I'd get the – like an apple fritter or something like that. Oh, yeah. Hostess apple fritter. God, if I read that label right now, I'd probably like an apple fritter or something like that. Oh, yeah. Hostess apple fritter. God, if I read that label right now, I'd probably shoot myself. I know.

So was yours pretty similar to mine? Yeah. Same type of deal? Yeah, it was still back in the day. Absolutely. And when you go to the high schools now, because I haven't been in one in a very long time, is it the same? Yeah. For the most part, it is.

They've gotten a little better but like you said the the meat quality um they still have pizza they still have burritos all that stuff i know what a lot of schools are doing now is that you can order in and they'll have basically um what's the delivery service um the food delivery service like uber eats type of thing yeah uber eats or um postmates postmates will actually go to the schools and have days that they drop off oh wow meal programs pretty freaking sweet i like that but it's still fast foods available all right so instead of the school fast food you're getting you're still you know pulling it in from somewhere else i remember like all these electives that i have to take in high school you know you had like these certain classes like wood shop and stuff like that you know like things you had to take and it was like oh you know

pick something i think that learn a trade or we we had to learn um a different language like i did like two years of spanish which did nothing for me because the only thing i could say now is fucking like hola so like i mean it did nothing for me and it was thing I could say now is fucking like, hola. So like, I mean, it did nothing for me. And it was, you know, it was mandatory and this and that. What about a mandatory nutrition class? Like, what the fuck? That's something that those kids would hang on to forever. Yeah.

It's truly, when you break it down by science and like when you had your aha moment at 17 and when I had mine, it's something that just sticks with you for life. Especially when you're young. Yes, absolutely. Like someone says something to you and it's just locked in. Like I have some things that – like when I was in high school, this is the – maybe like a a freshman like eighth or ninth grade i remember my coach telling me you know when you're done with this with this practice if you go home and you drink a soda it never happened like in track practice he actually was wrong at the time right because

i probably needed that sugar to recover but he was just trying to get me to you know stop eating unhealthy things and he was like i remember just being like oh my god i just ran like 10 miles and in fucking practice like i'm gonna if i go home and drink the pepsi i'm not gonna be able to have that i remember being at dinner that night my mom was like pouring the pepsi because it was like normal at my my family big two liter big two liter and i was like no mom i can't have that can i have water and she's like what are you and i was like my coach said that literally practice will never have happened she's like he's out of his mind i was like i don't give a fuck what he is i want to be a badass runner and i'm listening to it like i just don't care i just i

want to do whatever i have to do so that was something that like really stuck in my mind and when you're young like that it makes a big impact oh my god i just remember seeing the bodies of people who were like in shape you know and like now i look back and i'm like man i thought that person was in shape like there's other people that are in way better shape but you see someone who just looks better than you that's all that matters they just look better than you right what are they doing what are they doing right and i think you have you know you have a nutrition teacher come in or a nutrition speaker man i remember having a nutrition teacher come in or a nutrition speaker man i remember having a bunch of speakers in high school someone will come up and start talking

about nutrition and i mean they didn't talk about nutrition but they talked about maybe some inspiring things maybe they won an olympic gold medal or something and i was like and had i heard something about like some some dude went up there just like took a shirt off or something and he was like you guys need to listen to me right now about nutrition. And then he put his shirt back on. I'd be like, damn, I'm listening for sure. Well, and look, I mean at my age and when I go to my kids' functions and see the other parents out there, you're like, wow. Especially at 50.

Yeah. But here's something interesting. So I dated a lady who went to medical school, passed the boards, and then decided not to become a doctor because of the business side of it. It's pretty bad right now, actually. But she said that they spent, in her whole time going through through medical school maybe a half a day on nutrition. Yeah, I mean a lot of doctors do give you pretty terrible advice on nutrition. Because it's all reactionary. One, you know, and I know it's shifting. There's a lot more holistic approaches to it.

There's a lot more emphasis going into nutrition but the way your whole you know medical community is set up it's all reactionary and it's all drugs drugs drugs to fix the problem after the fact instead of telling people oh well maybe you shouldn't eat what you're eating less sugar stop smoking i mean like very very basic things yeah well and it does boil to the most simple of things right because people ask you all the time how do you do it like eat less like when you said that just now i was like duh just just eat less and work out more yeah if you don't already like work out you know know what I mean? And if you're already working out,

then it's 100% nutrition if you're not getting to where you want to get to. I agree on that for sure. I can't tell you how many people, there's a lot of people that come in the gym

all the time. They do CrossFit, they do sweat, they come back, they do this, they do that. I'm like, just like,

what are you eating? Are you just like injecting sugar sticks into the side of your fucking neck? Like, what is wrong with you? You work out too hard not to be making gains but there is a dangerous factor too and this happens with a lot of kids in high school as well since like the school lunch thing is our big topic is um people aren't eating enough yes sometimes yep and then that turns into

like an eating disorder. Yes. So there's a ton of girls that have eating disorders. I can't tell you how many people I meet nowadays, like some famous person on Instagram or this or that, and their backstory is always an eating disorder. And it's because they thought they had to look a certain way and they only started eating this many calories. And then when they started eating more, they felt like they were getting fatter, likeatter like even though they weren't right but it's that whole body dysmorphic disorder but people don't understand and i had an ex-girlfriend like this was you know when you're stuck in this rut and you're you're losing weight and losing weight and losing weight and you don't know how to get out of it, the only way out of it is called reverse

dieting. So you're actually adding 100 calories per week to your diet. It's not drastic. You know, you're not, you know, adding 500 to 1000 every day all of a sudden, but you're adding 100 in each week and, you know, it's picking up your body's metabolism. It's changing some things. Your hormones are changing and a lot of people can't do it mentally. Right. So I think a lot of people can't do it mentally right

so i think a lot of times you have people who are working out you know these extreme amounts and they're trying to outwork their diet right i mean you have you have people trying to outwork a bad diet you have people trying to outwork a diet that doesn't even exist that's not even enough right yeah so that's like the really scary thing because those people will never tell you what they're actually eating all day because if they did they'd be embarrassed it's probably 500 calories right you know what i mean and it's like oh my god how are you alive how is your bone density like how are you how is your body holding you up there's so many things that are attributed to that and connect with that and not eating enough calories is especially as a female that can really i mean and especially if

you know you want to be a mother and you're in your childbearing ages that will screw up your hormones and your productivity like nothing else most likely you're not having your period if you're not eating enough yep so there's one and then i mean i think they say like for every year that you didn't have your period it's at least a month to come back so someone hasn't had their period like five years looking at at least five months and then even then you may not get it back this is like some of the professionals out there who help people get back that's like some numbers that i heard but well that's one of the things that i've been working with so i have

you know i have my meal program and then i do training along with it. And I've started these small group training classes that it's a combination of being on the food and the training. And you assign accountability partners to it. So you've got full control of the diet side of it as much as you can, right? You can't stop people from cheating when they're home, but if you give them the guidelines. But the component I bought into it was a psychologist who specializes in nutritional behavior and getting people to think differently about food, right? Whether, like you said, whether it was eating too much or too little and getting over the psychological component to it and the root of it. Why do you look at food that way? Why do you look at your body?

And what are you using food for? And I think a lot of people do use it for the wrong reasons. Oh, yeah. I mean, you've never seen a cheetah like on an African safari. All of a sudden he's like, I'm fucking just going to eat. You know what I mean? He's usually hungry. You know what I mean? He's usually hungry. You know what I mean?

It's time to eat. It's time to eat. I eat until I'm full. Yeah. And I know what that cutoff point is. Move on. Next time. I mean, most animals are not just eating for no reason.

They're not bored. In the wild? No. They're not depressed, like eating fucking ice cream. Right. Organic Oreos. Right. You don't see lions.

You know, I'm going to have fruit today. I feel a little down on my sugar. like eating fucking ice cream right organic oreo right you don't see lines you know i'm gonna have fruit today i feel a little down on my sugar um you we were talking about a little bit ago about the quality of food that's in the schools and yeah what did the one thing that i wanted to bring up which i thought was just absolutely insane was well the first thing is they added pizza to the food group, the food pyramid. And it's because of the tomato paste. So they do say that the biggest thing that's happening in these younger grade categories is no one's getting enough vegetables in their diet. No, not even close. Yeah, those micronutrients are pretty important for various things.

I'm sure a lot of you guys are aware of the reasons why. And then they came to this study that actually they put it on the news because it was so just staggering and ridiculous. From 2001 to 2010, the U.S. government spent $150 million on spent hens to put in kids lunches so a spent hen is an older hen that doesn't have the ability to lay eggs anymore they're just like super old grandpa hens and the meat is actually doesn't pass the quality to be sold in kfc which is the worst meat in the country deep fried besides taco i think taco bell actually

holds the number one worst meat in america and then it's kfc right behind it so now we have these hens that are actually even worse than all of that and that's what's being used in kids lunches right now or that's what was being used then and it became such a big issue though and came out into the public that like it hasn't happened again that we're aware of that we're aware of yeah but we're spending all this money and you know taxes and this and that like the kids should be getting better food than fucking basically about to die hence right you know what i mean like that's pretty gnarly and there is a lot of studies this and about eggs i don't know personally about the chicken so i'm not gonna like coin me on this but with eggs the worst quality of life that the chicken had the cortisol levels

transport to the egg and then you're eating an egg that has like a high amount of cortisol in it so there are some studies that believe that you're digesting that cortisol and you're, you know, it's a negative impact on your body from the negativity of the egg. That's why pasture-raised eggs right now are like blowing up. Right. Because they're so much better quality. And God knows what we're actually getting with those because, you know, a year from now we might be like talking about how pasture-raised eggs aren't really that and blah, blah, blah. Same thing with aspartame.

Everybody's like, oh, aspartame is fine. And then a couple years later, it's like, did you eat aspartame? Because you could be entitled to millions of dollars. It's like, what? Yeah, and your penis might fall off in three, two, one. And all these things could happen. And everyone right now is like, oh, sucralose is fine. What do you think of Quest Bars?

And you look at Quest Bar, and there's an ingredient on there that literally is like as long as my forearm it's like awesome and people always ask me about it and i'm like dude they taste great i'm you know like great they sold for a billion dollars actually and i'm i wouldn't be surprised if that long ingredient winds up being something gnarly that everyone's like, what were we doing? Like, why? And sucralose is in everything now. Everyone's going to look back and be like, what were we doing? Asbestos was in our walls and our houses.

And it was like, what are we doing now? Lead in the water. You know what I mean? I really think that people need to just simplify everything and just make it so, so much easier. I actually don't even understand why we add all these fillers. I know, like, it adds shelf life. It adds shelf life. That's all it is. It's all about preservatives and processed food.

But, like, an RX bar, for instance, doesn't have a lot of stuff in it. And that thing lasts a pretty long time. I mean, granted, dates aren't the best thing, but it's still a natural food. Right. It just bums me out that there's there's that and then there's a bar that has a paragraph of shit in it they both last the same amount of time you know there's a couple different things going on there and i'm just like i just don't get it yeah it's but that's that's a small thing like the amount the the quality of food that

the kids are getting now which is making them you know – I can't even tell you the last time I met a kid who was like, I want to go hiking. I want to go do this or I want to go do that. It's very rare that I even see kids that are even motivated anymore. Right. Well, I – They are literally inside of their phone like a fucking video game. Yes. I mean it's insane.

Heads down. It's insane. Heads down. If they don't already play video games, their life on their phone is a video game. It's just unbelievable. I don't see groups of kids on bikes going anywhere anymore. Never. That's all we did was a pack of just roving. Yeah.

I didn't have a fucking cell phone, so I would just go to this place where all these dirt jumps were on my on my bike yeah and if my friends weren't there i didn't know where they were no you didn't you drive to your friend's house hey is johnny home yeah no he's not here did you check this other house you drive over there if not you're playing by yourself that yeah that's it and it was just nuts so now i feel like there's a lot of people breaking records out there, like most yardage in football or faster track times and this and that. So you have the very few kids that are – Excelling to the top. They're excelling to the top, and I think that's because their parents are giving them the right food and giving them the right knowledge. Which we have a lot more of nowadays than we did yeah so we have that from an earlier age you have this opportunity and kids are a lot bigger that's the thing going to these high schools i mean my you know i graduated in 1988

and our offensive line probably averaged 250 pounds nowadays 300 300 plus there's a kid i'm working with right now he's 67370 as a sophomore wow he needs to lose a little weight he's not one of the gainers but yeah the kids are getting bigger you know and the ones that are understanding and whose parents understand the the importance of nutrition, like you said, they're excelling. They're rising to the top faster, and they're becoming better athletes. Well, because of social media, we have access. Like I can go on right now and get a great workout from somebody on Instagram for free. Right.

You know what I mean? And just go to his profile and be like, oh, that's a great workout, and do that. Versus what I was doing when I was in high school, and I was just doing bench every day. Yeah. Bench and biceps. It was that strict pyramid, right? I just wanted a bench. I just wanted a big chest, big arms. That's all I cared about, you know?

10-8, 6-4-2. Or 10-10-10 or whatever. And, like, I didn't understand any of it. So now you have people giving you instruction. That helps a lot. Like, granted, we are three times the obesity rate than ever before. But you also are always going to have the outliers as well so now we have people who are just massacring records and records are hard to beat hard to

beat so like if every year we're breaking records in everything that's because some people have figured it out yep and i think it's really important to know that and like you i haven't heard too many stories recently of like a quarterback or a new NFL freak of nature who just like came from absolutely nothing. You don't hear it as much anymore. No, like Jerry Rice back in the day. Division III guy, all of a sudden, greatest receiver ever. Now there's just so much information out there. Yeah, you start looking into these people's past and it it's like, oh, their parents were grooming them.

Yes. You know what I mean? Oh, the football camps. And I think that's a problem, too, the specialization. You looked at the best athletes when we were growing up. They were three sports stars. All right? They took a break from what they were doing, concentrated on something else, and developed

different skill sets. And now it's the all year round with you know whatever sport they go into it's just constant bombardment and leads to burnout too that's happened to me in high school i ran way too much and then it became a a burnout for me for sure right you just do something so much and it's like, yeah, I'm done. But yeah, that's crazy. So I think that a lot of these records are, you know, associated with better diet and obviously obesity is associated with this bad diet. So if there's anything that we're getting out of this podcast, it's definitely like awareness that,

you know, the food that your children are getting in high school is, you know, terrible quality. Yeah. If you're not putting in the time to cook at home, to make it at home, to buy real food, then, yeah, you're putting crap in and you're going to get bad results from, like you said, memory retention, sleeping, energy level. Yep. Right? What do you recommend for parents? It's like, all right, if I'm going to make some food for my kids, what should I, what should I be making? Like, what would you, well, let's like separate, separate like some macros and stuff like that. Like, right. Not specific

numbers, but like to keep it simple, eyeballing a meal for them. Right. So, you know, and it all depends on how big the kid is and what their activity level is right do they need to lose weight or gain weight so if you're a kid who needs to gain weight you got to be looking at you know let's say and let's just start with high school kids probably five to six ounces of protein per meal per meal breakfast lunch and dinner and then maybe you know one to two ounces if you're having a snack or a protein shake after your workout. But for your major meals, five to six ounces of protein, basically as many vegetables as you can eat, a cup to two cups, and then probably four to, let's call it six ounces of some

complex carbohydrate. Now, you want the healthiest option available? Sweet potatoes, yams. four to, let's call it six ounces of some complex carbohydrate. Okay. Now, you want the healthiest option available? Sweet potatoes, yams, right? That's going to give you your healthiest option for those carbs. Your body's going to respond to it better. If you got a picky kid and you want to throw in rice, pasta, stuff like that, Okay. You're not going to get the – I don't think you're going to get the best benefit quality-wise and performance-wise. But it will give you the numbers in order to gain the weight that you need to get to.

But they did a study that it's not the amount of protein that you eat. It's the amount of green leafy vegetables that puts on bulk. Because the more protein you eat, it actually robs the body of micronutrients to process it. So your body can only handle so much protein before it starts robbing it of calcium and magnesium. And you're actually looking at bone density loss in order to process that protein. If you're looking to lose weight and lean out, three to four ounces of protein, vegetables, and fat. I forgot to mention the fat on the other one. Yeah. Okay.

What's a healthy fat? Well. That's the big question. Right. You know, avocados, great source. Coconut oil, olive oil, avocado oil, and nuts and seeds. Yep. That's your simplest form but again how much you know if you look at nine almonds that's approximately three grams of fat

i think a full serving of almonds is 18 grams of fat i think so right no not 18 it's 18 oh 18 almonds right so that's going to be about whatever that wants to be in. But I want to say like for most servings of almonds is 18, which is like still a pretty small handful of almonds. Like most likely you're eating three, four times that. Absolutely. And that's where it really starts to get sketchy really, really quick. Right. If you're not, like you said, if you're not weighing and measuring, you don't know what you're putting in there.

Yeah. So that's keeping it simple. It's just good, healthy proteins. I do all organic, grass-fed beef, wild-caught fish, free-range chicken for myself. Wild-caught fish is big. You could see the color difference. Yeah, it's a big deal. I mean, just put two side by side. Yeah. They look different.

Yeah, for sure. And then, you know, green leafy vegetables and healthy fats. And if you need some carbs in there, sweet potatoes and yams are your best source. It's going to provide you with the best micronutrients and your body's going to perform best on them without the high glycemic index. If you've got to get into quinoa, rice, study – I was going to say, what do you think about quinoa? I'm like 50-50 on it because it's a grain. It is still a grain. It's still going to have a high carbohydrate content.

It has a massive carbohydrate content. Right, and everybody thinks, oh, it's an ancient grain. Quinoa, healthy. But you have to do it in moderation. has a massive carbohydrate content right and everybody thinks oh it's an ancient grain yeah quinoa healthy but you have to do it in moderation like the same amount of quinoa versus rice like you know eyeballing it it's twice the amount of carbs like because of the density of it right you think you need more and more they found out that if you so when you cook white rice, and usually it calls for butter or something like that, if you substitute the butter for coconut oil, it lowers the glycemic index. Oh. Well, yeah, I mean, anything with fat and carbohydrates together slows the absorption rate down.

Right. I mean, that makes sense. But, yeah, I mean, that would be a great way to make rice. It actually makes it sound really, really good right now. It is good. Put a little lime on there. Oh, yeah. That sounds bomb.

Put the lime in the coconut. Isn't that like a song? Yeah. That is a great – just a great way to put it. I think some healthy snacks for some kids would be another great topic right now. I make little snack packs, and it's basically a handful of blueberries okay one ounce of uncured deli meat a handful of blueberries by the way is like such a staggering low number of carbs yes like an entire six ounce thing that you would buy at the store of blueberries

is only like 13 grams of carbs that it's a great source of sweetness carbs and filling right and the antioxidants that are in them as well okay so you got a handful of blueberries right one ounce one or two ounces of uncured deli meat um and then nuts cool super simple and it takes care of everything you got your carbs your fat and your proteins i have some friends too like for kids who have that sweet tooth that the parents are having a Cool. Super simple, and it takes care of everything. You got your carbs, your fat, and your proteins. I have some friends, too, like for kids who have that sweet tooth that the parents are having a problem with is like they'll roast the nuts in their own oven and put like a little bit of cinnamon on them. I don't know if they put honey. I mean obviously honey would ruin the whole aspect of it, but they had some sort of – maybe it was coconut oil.

Just to give it – Yeah, to give it like a little bit more – A little coating, yeah. A little sweetness to it, yeah. I think of maybe it was coconut oil just to give it yeah to give it like a little bit more coating yeah sweetness to it yeah i think it was cinnamon and coconut oil maybe and they slow roasted them in the oven like overnight type of thing and they were they were amazing it's super simple yeah well you actually you bring in that granola the grain granola that stuff's really good too yeah super simple to make i mean we do put some honey and syrup in it but yeah for the amount of it, it's minimal. It's just enough to keep it bonded together. But yeah, with some cinnamon, coconut flakes.

That's a big question. Everybody always comes up and goes, what about snacks? What about snacks? It's like, man, if you have to think about snacks that much, you're probably already fucking up. Yep. The snack – and people over snack all the time. A snack is just supposed to be enough to get you to the next meal just so you don't die. But one thing we haven't even touched on, we don't need to touch on it too much, is the fact that if you're hungry all the time, I guarantee you're dehydrated.

Yes. So most of the time you think you're super hungry and you're really just empty of water. Your body is just like needs something. So the first thing you're going to think of is something to eat. Right. I feel like we think of food way before we think of water for me, especially like I go through so many days where I don't drink nearly enough water.

No. And I know it too. I'll get the, I'll get the headache and I'll know exactly, Oh, I didn't drink enough water today. Or you had a coffee and that's really it, which makes it even worse.

Right. So that dehydrates even more for you parents out there. That one thing you should highly uh invest in in your children is like a hydro flask yes so it's measured yeah they know exactly how much i mean they got that and just the fact that it's in your hand when you have these bottles in your hand like we're in my office right now and i have two on my desk i have another one in my car i have another one at my house it's always there it's always there reminds me to drink and it's, it's just great. And I mean, if your kids, you know, still have a problem with it, put a cool fucking sticker on there, you know, like that. So they feel cool walking around with it. I don't know. Maybe it says I hate school or something like that. Right. Whatever. Just

drink more water. Yeah. And that's going to be a big deal. Uh, is there anything else that you'd like to add? No, I just, you know, being part of the Chalk Nation is just, you know, I get to go to a lot of different gyms. And, you know, I just want to say that being part of Chalk is just an awesome experience. I appreciate that. Just the community that's evolved here as far as the friendliness, the information, the workouts, or like no other. And anybody who follows you online or in person knows that. And the wealth of information that you put out there. I try. Well, and you're willing to put some controversial stuff out there and get people thinking, right, and acting.

And that's, I think, the most important thing is just don't be a zombie. My mom yells at me all the time. She's going to listen to this show, and she's going to be like, but like I'll say something that's kind of controversial. My mom's like, you shouldn't have done that. You shouldn't have done that. I'm like, Mom, fuck everybody. I'm not going to be the same cookie-cutter person as everybody else. I'm not going to make the same workouts. I'm not going to be the same cookie cutter person as everybody else i'm not going to make the same workouts i'm not going to say the same things

i'm not going to post the same stuff like what's the point right makes no sense like everybody else yeah well here's the last thing i think is people are the biggest liars to themselves and if you really want to change, you got to stop lying to yourself. That is a big one for sure. Right. And that, Oh, that, that adds into everything we said about whether you're working out too much, not eating enough, eating too much, or, you know, lying yourself about that little treat that you had that it's not going to make a difference. I, uh, I actually wrote one of my first nutrition books that I wrote for the gym. I wrote this big pack and I sent it out to everybody.

When you talk about giving knowledge out to people, I thought it was important to just like give everybody this thing that it was a bunch of information. And at the end of it, it said, you know, every time you eat something, it should have a purpose. And I said, there will be nothing that you will eat that will make you nearly as happy as the body that you see in the mirror. So every single day that you look at yourself in the mirror, you're like, fuck yeah, I made that. You know, I worked hard for this and whatever. I've never looked at like a piece of cake and I'm like, fuck yeah, I made that. I earned that.

You know what I mean? It's not the same. No. Like you can wake up and be depressed every day at the way that you look. But that piece of cake or that, you know, whatever, it only tastes good for a minute. Right. And then you're going to feel like shit. And then the guilt factor that goes along with it.

Fucking, this is going to be the line of the podcast. I just thought of it just now. But like a cheat meal is a fucking one night stand. It is. A terrible one night stand. A terrible one night stand. as soon as you're done you're like i fucked why did i do that yeah you know feeling of shame instantly wish you were not there anymore it didn't happen anymore and we're talking about both things right now right and it's uh and they'll keep calling they'll keep calling they will they will the food will keep calling your name she will keep calling. They'll keep calling. They will. They will. The food will keep calling your name. She will keep calling your name.

Oh, my God. Until you draw that line in the sand and say no more. Yeah, we needed one really inappropriate moment on the podcast, and that was it. There we go. So coming from someone who owns a meal prep company, what are some tips right now that you want to give right now to help people pick the right one? And then we'll end it with where people can find you and if you guys live in the orange county area you guys can either find dan at my gym um at crossfit chalk you guys can come and hang out or if you can find him online he'll tell you in a minute um for me it's about so i deliver from santa clarita all

the way to san diego and we cook twice a week. So it's always fresh. That's the first thing I'd look for fresh and not frozen. If you got to get frozen, it's all right. Just don't heat it up in the microwave. Put it in a pan. Thank you. Two is make sure it's got what you're looking for, whether it's to lose weight, maintain or gain, make sure it's got

the variety that you need and the health options that you need. And for me, make sure that they have an organic option as well. But it's really, you know, the one thing that money can buy you is time. And that's what meal prep is about. It's about time. So if you spent one of your days off your Sunday as your meal prep day, well, that's what I give you back. I give you back one of your days off. And now you've got more time to live. Spend more time with the family, with the girlfriend, exercising, doing something you love to live your life. That's a great point. And variety, too.

I think that's a big thing because people get bored quickly. So variety I think is a big factor when it comes to meals. That is – yeah, great, great, great points. I mean the time factor is unbelievable. It is. To do it right, absolutely. For me, I spend a good portion of the day thinking about or getting ready for food or something like that. And I've had your meals and have had success with eating them eating them i just i'm in the gym so much i just

need to leave right and i want to go yeah that's where you told me like i love it but i just got to get out or else you become a slave to being in the gym and i gotta i gotta meet people i gotta figure out if it's gonna be a one-night stand or not this could be more could not it might not be my last girlfriend actually was from whole foods really yeah it didn't last long she was crazy but she got some great discounts she didn't work there she was she was eating there at the same time oh you just met her there okay the discounts though would be it's be – it's a great point. But, yeah, if you want to look me up, it's paleozone.com. So P-A-L-E-O-Z-O-N-E.

Dot com. And everything is online, super easy to order. And if you have any questions, call. The number goes right to me. Oh, awesome. Yeah. Right on. And you have an Instagram account, I assume The number goes right to me. Oh, awesome. Yeah. Right on. And you have an Instagram account, I assume?

I do. Paleo.zone. Paleo.zone. Yep. Didn't get Paleo.zone all together. Just a lot of food porn. As it should be. As it should be.

Well, ladies and gentlemen, I think we hit a lot of just great adult topics on this as well as the kid topics. Talking about those school lunches. Hopefully, you guys have a better visualization in your mind now of what's actually happening at these schools and what's actually going into these foods that your kids are eating. And if you really want to have great kids, in my opinion, they grow up to be more successful. I mean, you're looking at multiple Xs next to their future being a little bit brighter if they just eat a little better food and it's not necessarily it doesn't have to burn a hole in your wallet there's there's cheaper ways to do it um in my opinion we didn't talk about this but

like even just like a crock pot throw a super cheap rump roast it's like two dollars a pound in a crock pot wake up in the morning, you, your husband, everybody's just got all the meat for the day, and it wasn't very expensive. There's cheap ways to do it. Don't ever make finances an issue. I hope you guys learned a ton from this show. I hope you guys share it. That's it.

I will see you next week on Tuesday for another episode of Real Chalk. We are out.