Barbell Shrugged - t’s Deeper Than Training Partners and How to Feed Lauren Fischer and Rasmus Wisbech Anderson for the CrossFit Games w/ Anders Varner, and Doug Larson — Barbell Shrugged #415

Episode Date: September 4, 2019

Jenn Ryan is a 13 year CrossFit athlete that has qualified for the CrossFit Games 5 times in the last 3 years. She is a NASN Liscened Sports Nutritionist, providing nutrition coaching to top CrossFit Games athletes including Lauren Fischer, Rasmus Wisbech, is the lead nutritionist for CrossFit Invictus, and owns her own nutrition consulting company.    In this episode, the Shrugged discusses Jenn Ryan and Anders’ relationship over the last decade, how it has transformed, growing into a CrossFit Games Athlete, and how to build a relationship with food for elite athletes and people trying to live a healthier life.   Minute Breakdown:   1-10 Step aerobics to competitive CrossFit Games athlete 11-20 How do you transition out of owning a gym and the relationships involved 21-30 What is it like competing and training at CrossFit Invictus 31-40 Do people care that you are a great athlete? 41-50 More food and more movement 51-60 Building a nutrition business from the ground up 61-70 - Scaling a nutrition program across an entire gym   Connect with Jenn Ryan   Anders Varner on Instagram   Doug Larson on Instagram   20 REP BACK SQUAT PROGRAM --------------------------------------- Please Support Our Sponsors   Savage Barbell Apparel - Save 25% on your first order using the code “SHRUGGED”   Organifi - Save 20% using code: “Shrugged” at organifi.com/shrugged   WHOOP - Save $30 on 12 or 18 month membership plan using code “SHRUGGED” at checkout --------------------------------------------- One Ton Challenge    Registration is LIVE now   Find your 1rm in the snatch, clean, jerk, squat, dead, bench.    Add them up to find your One Ton Total.    The goal is 2,000 pounds for men and 1,200 for women.    “What is the One Ton Challenge”   “How Strong is Strong Enough”   “How do I Start the One Ton Challenge” ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes at: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/bbs-ryan -----------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Barbell Shrugged's Channel Here ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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Team Invictus. There's all kinds of people that she does a nutritionist for CrossFit Invictus. Lauren Fisher, Rasmus, Team Invictus. There's all kinds of people that she does the macros for. Also happens to be a very good friend of mine, and we have spent a good decade at this CrossFit space together. She was a coach at my gym, and we have a really cool story to bring to you today, and I can't wait. So here we go. Jen Ryan.

I heard after Sam Briggs and Sarah Sigmundsdottir got cut after the sprints, they came in and they told some people they were telling, I think Anna Tobias, they're telling our age group people that there was like a triathlon or a sprint triathlon, something like an hour, hour and a half away, so they were going to drive to that and do it. Oh, I hope they won. Make a little cash on the weekend. They did. So they drove there.

Yeah. So I think it was happening today. Beautiful. Or at the end of the day. It must have been this morning. They probably do those triathlons in the morning. So I think that's what they were doing. Being a Sunday afternoon at the CrossFit Games, I feel like I should take this Life A with

Turmeric and dump a bunch of vodka in here and get to work. Totally should. Me too. Make this thing. But tequila. Make this thing real oh yeah we got them both back oh oh that voice you hear right there is jen ryan welcome to barbell shrugged i am anders varner doug larson you can't tell me how to live mr greg pitts the voice of the

scoreboard oh yeah the voice of the score if it has a voice if it had a voice underneath the bleachers jen ryan why are you only gonna put tequila in here instead of the scoreboard. If it has a voice. If it had a voice. Underneath the bleachers. Jen Ryan, why are you only going to put tequila in here instead of the vodka? Is that like a paleo thing? You're the nutritionist. I was trying to draw some lines there. You sound very confident when you said that. You've done that before. That was the voice of experience.

Tequila with everything. I see where you're going with this. Vodka's for children. Is it kind of like... I wish I knew you in your 20s. I feel like there's some good stories there. I did. Oh, yeah?

I did. Every once in a while, a common friend of ours, Mr. Josh Leahy, will post a picture. Write about your birthday every year. Usually. It comes up. Full disclosure to the whole audience, Jen Ryan and I started doing the CrossFits at Carolina CrossFit in

2006 when I was in grad school there. She was attending bar and nursing and running and doing a lot of step aerobics, right? Yeah. Were you doing step aerobics? Yeah. Beautiful. Spin, step classes,

body pump, body attack. If there was a scoreboard at the spin and step aerob body pump, body attack. If there was a scoreboard at the spin and step aerobics class, were you winning those classes? Yeah. I would get very competitive. And one time I laughed. One of the older women who was really good at the step,

like the little things they would put together, she twisted her ankle and had to stop once. It's fine. And you laughed. And you laughed. And you laughed at her. I giggled inside. I was like, ha. I thought you were going to say, like, she thought she could beat me in some step number.

But she was just uncoordinated. A number of steps in 10 minutes. And I laughed at her. We did the competition and I won. No, she just sprained her ankle and you just laughed at her. For no reason. No. You're hurt.

I mean, there's no competition in those things. But in your head, you're like, I'm going to hit every step that the instructor is giving us. Did you ever just smash the instructor? Like, look, this is child's play. You're not good at this anymore? No. I didn't really know anything else. I thought that was.

They were the best? Yeah, I did. I thought they were the best. Jen Ryan, this is super exciting because not only have we um trained together way back in the day in like 2005 six seven somewhere in there whenever i was doing the learning thing um we have very similar mentors and mr paul beckwith and our first like real strength coaches um but you I also somehow convinced you to drop everything you were doing in South Carolina and drive across this beautiful United States of America

to move to Pacific Beach, California and be a coach slash athlete at our gym. You coached there for what, six years? All six years that I was there. I think so. Five years I was there. Yeah, I moved there in December 17, 2012 is when I rolled up to San Diego. Right. In my Jetta with everything I owned.

Yeah. During that time, we had a pretty good run in the Cross Fitness. We had a lot of athletes, but you went to regionals what five you've been to regionals how many times now since 2011 every year every year so that's well this year didn't count but seven in a row uh is that yeah was it seven 18 was last year so 11 to 8 or 8 regionals jesus that's a lot how many times you qualify for the games? This is my third year. Yeah, but you've qualified five times, right? I've qualified, yes, five. Damn.

So you're good at, like, constantly varied functional movements done at high intensity? I think so. Yeah. Every once in a while. Isn't it strange, though? Like, how have you stayed in this game as long? Like, I've seen a lot of behind the scenes, but the people that are on the way to work work right now how in the world do you like what has been a little bit of the process and the story

of jen ryan because the first going from like a regionals athlete and what would be considered your prime to now in a way peaking from 36 to 39 years old uh process well um i mean i think the biggest thing is just my mindset is like if i'm going to do something i want it like i'm going to do it 100 so um i think i've just always been someone who has wanted something more and something different than what everyone else is doing um i mean even as like a teenager like i as a as a female, I, I, I knew there was something more for me than just growing up, getting married and having children. And there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Right. That's what many people love and want. It, for me, there was something more, like I could be doing something for people. I could be doing something more for myself.

And I think I was just going to pull it closer to you. OK, so I'm going to grab your face for a second. Sorry. There you go. Sorry. And so I think there's just that. There it is. Crispy now. Yes. I want that crispy voice. So I've always just had that inner drive to, I think, do something else. And CrossFit was kind of my way to do that.

So once I started it, I felt that competitiveness and that there was something different. And it just made me feel really good, like the way I wanted to feel. So I stuck with it. And then I got really very lucky with the way we started out with working with Paul Beckwith and Bobby Millsaps. We got really lucky. Oh, man. I forget how lucky we got. Right. And then along the way, when I moved out here, I wasn't just going to another CrossFit gym.

I had you and Brian and even like Lindsey Renteria, amazing gymnast, right. To teach me. And then I started working with Jason Leiden for two years and oh my gosh, things just went even, even better. I just, I always wanted to be better. Like I wanted to be the best version of myself in the way that I wanted to do it. Um, and I just was blessed enough to start in the way that I did, and I just always wanted to be pursuing the next step. And then I also was very blessed to start working with a nutrition coach back in 2014, I believe, middle of 2014, that understood performance, nutrition,

and I think that also was a huge game changer that has helped me to this day to stay healthy, still hitting PRs, still making a ton of progress in every aspect of the sport. I don't feel that I've ever had, well, I can't say ever, because I kind of feel when it might be happening, but I don't feel that I've ever let my body get to that point where it's, this is it, I'm done.

Like, you know, we need to heal it up. You know, as many CrossFit athletes do when they're overdoing it, not eating enough, not understanding performance nutrition and sleep and um prioritizing and all of that so um the process has just been being really freaking blessed and lucky meeting the right people at the right times we're not really just meeting them you're actually like very actively looking for them. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Like, you started training with Breck Contreras.

He's, like, right down the street. Like, you're actively going out and finding people that are at the top of the game and trying to work with them. Yeah, and the same – right, exactly. And the same thing happened with Invictus. Like, I knew I was ready to take things to the next level again after Regionals 2016. And I went to Invictus. And, you know, again, just surrounding myself with everyone with the same mentality.

And, again, that was like actively seeking out. But I was very blessed to have the opportunity to do that because I already lived in San Diego. And, yeah, so. How did you end up at Invictus specifically? so Actually one of our mutual friends Brittany Stevens, and I had just competed at the 2016 regionals and she happened to meet Tino Marini who is my current coach at CrossFit Invictus and They had a mutual friend.

And he was just like, you know, you live in San Diego by, like, the best gym in the – the best CrossFit gym in the world. And it's hard to argue that, really, with their success and all the people that they bring in. And he was just like, why don't you come there and train? So she hit me up, and she's like, hey, let's go to Invictus. We're going to their comp class on Friday. This is the Friday after regionals. And I was like, wow, you kind of read my mind.

Like, I kind of had thoughts about this. Because a couple weeks before that, we had kind of gone and just done like a strongman little, like, training session with them. And I was like, all right, I right i want this like i want to go to the next level and so um there we were we went to comp class that day with new new coast costa and did their programming that day was a one rep max clean and uh and then man some workout with like 21 burpees and seven muscle ups for like seven rounds and I was hooked I was like I love it love the atmosphere I love what we've got going on here and that was where I was hooked with Invictus was that right after you sold your gym yeah and uh it would be stupid for us not to even talk about our personal relationship like one thing I'm super excited we're gonna do this in a super public

way um yeah Jen and I actually had one of the reasons I would assume that it was super exciting to go to Invictus was because I was like very very checked out of owning the gym and the people and the competition side and like it had turned into something that like I was very just not a part of anymore which like as you're selling something very quickly happens like that thing that you love and that thing that you've like grown with this like passion and just every fiber of your being goes into loving every piece of dirt that's on the floor like i had suddenly taken myself out of that and looked at this entity and broken up with crossFit as like a sport and an athlete and a coach and wanted nothing to do with it. And it was just like,

how can I make this thing sellable so I can get the fuck out of here? Yeah. You're the senior in high school in the last month of school. Yeah. He was like, I'm out of here. I'm not paying attention to anything. And over that like six month period where we were in a way like exiting my

relationship with you, like really went really really poorly because in a way Jen and I have very similar personalities which is why it when it was working it was so awesome and when it went bad it went really bad because she's super passionate about what she wants to be great at i'm very passionate about the things that i want to be great at and for a very long time those things were super aligned we wanted to go to the games and we wanted to be the best gym in the world and when that stopped being my thing and she uh continued down that path um it became like really, really hard. And I remember just many times like not even speaking to you for many, many months at a time almost.

And one, I'm very, very grateful that we get to like do this and have rekindled uh but what was like uh i guess in in in your story like the those those years those months were pretty dark for a lot of us i think yeah anders and i got along so well like we we just like feed off each other. And, oh, man, dude, like I've always like loved Anders like a brother. And we have great, like very similar personalities. We're really, like he said, and it was like right before Regionals 2016, Britt and I had decided to go individual instead of a team. And I think that kind of hit hard with kind of his way out of CrossFit and I didn't know everything that was going on and so um it was it was hard because we had some really crazy back and forth things

and uh yeah we honestly probably didn't talk after a lot of those things for like a year, a year and a half, a year. Um, and it was, it was hard because I hated seeing my best friend almost, um, kind of like, uh, like almost hating me and what I was trying to do because I loved it. Um, and I missed him. I missed my friend. And, uh, so for the year after that, after being at Invictus, um, it was hard because there were so many times where I want to be like, Oh dude, you should have seen this. It was so cool. I mean, we freaking remember that year with the, the, well, not the marathon row last year, but the year before, like the two or three years before that with that long row, we sat at our one gym and we rode that stupid thing together.

And we laugh about it to this day where A.B. was literally soaking wet. It looked like he had peed himself. And every like half marathon. Yeah. Every couple thousand, like he would strip something else off. He was like socks were gone. We had very little clothing on by the end of that half marathon. People were stopping in during the day to say hi to us.

Our gym didn't have a flat floor, so it looked like there was an actual river running through it. It was slanted, so there was an actual river of sweat from her and I. It was awesome. It was so foul. We had such a blast. I'll be honest. I would tell people, I was like, there's just this heavy heart that I have because it wasn't like it wasn't hatred. It was just things ended so strangely that I felt like a piece of me was like gone.

Yeah. And so I had a really hard time that next year because I felt you were still a part of my life and a part of everyone else. But the way it had ended with us, like this relationship, but like a ship. Oh, it's real. It's hard, a friendship. Right. And when you go from seeing and talking to each other every day for so long because we were in the gym all the time together and stuff and I was working for you guys and um it was a hard thing to see and I just had this overshadowing thing in my life and I I didn't like that about me and it was the night before I was gonna leave for the 2017 CrossFit Games and I sent him a text I was like I'm gonna do this because I want to get it you know I was like I want to clear things up and

so I sent him this text and I was like it was like waiting for someone to message you back because you don't know if they're going to and I was just like you know I'm sitting here packing for my first CrossFit Games the thing that I've wanted to do for so long and I don't have my best friend and like my biggest support system to talk about it with you know because I knew like you understood my passion for it and so why am I crying it's just I it really does bring up emotion because that was that text was like so emotional to me because I meant it you know and I was like I just want like my friend back and I wanted to share like one of the most exciting times in my life that I've been working so freaking hard for with that person.

And it was the coolest message I got back. And from then on, I like knew I was like, it's going to be super OK. And we threw some jokes again back and forth. And it was so awesome. Yeah. Do you remember getting that text? Oh, yeah, completely. I know exactly where I was. Yeah, I mean, our relationship was like one piece of, like, even on a different level. Like, my relationship with the gym the people crossfit really everything was just gone yeah and i didn't want it like i wanted away from

everybody because it's just like man you know you guys in a way well in a way it's like i'm just kidding you like create this thing and this family and these people and they're everything and then one day you wake up and you're like i don't want any of this. I created a fucking jail cell. And you don't know how to get out. And the only way to do it is to, in a way, burn it to the ground. And it took me a really long time before I could talk about it. And honestly, podcasting is one of the greatest things ever because I get to become better at talking about about feelings and where I'm at in life.

And, yeah, I did the Mind Muscle Project with the guys from Australia. that show I felt like was the first time that I ever like accurately laid out how I felt about that like year of my life and I was super grateful that you like actually listened to it because I think I was talking a lot about you in that show yeah I remember listening to it and I was like holy cow like i didn't know this was going on you know and uh yeah i i was able to like actually talk about the relationships and without it being like overwhelmingly angry um but it's a really yeah i think there's a lot of people that probably have been so deep in something like friends family i mean astrid's the only person that made it out of that yeah yeah like that's real i mean and greg was uh i mean he was stronger than you and you still liked him.

I know. So not fair. That's right. But, yeah, I think that that time was just like, I mean, even Greg and I had to, like, rebuild a relationship because everything was so structured around, like, I don't know if people, like, go to a gym and understand what it's like for somebody that, like, does that for a living yeah you know how hard it is to love

300 plus people it's really really hard and uh with age i guess you get better at things but in a way i didn't know how to love them without the gym so i just hated them that's growing i guess i don't know for sure um but yeah i've been like super proud of all of it and what you've done with invictus like you, you've gone to the games. Yeah. Like, three times now. Yeah. And you have, like, really overcome, like, a lot of the stuff.

I mean, not just you and I, but, like, stayed in the game and found all these new coaches and everything. Like, our story and being across with BB and San Diego Athletics, like, that's just, like, a part of your story now. So tell me about, like, what that's just like a part of your story now. So tell me about that. Like what it's been like since joining Invictus and like all of the great things that have happened because we had to go through our stuff. Yeah. I,

I think I just kind of continued to build on everything that I learned from all the basics you know from when I started uh with you and Brian because I mean you you know give yourself some credit like you're a great coach um and so is Brian and so I had that and then I had Jay uh and when I got to Invictus I already had such a great base, base on everything, gymnastics, strength, technique, aerobic capacity. And it was all due to, like, everyone that I had worked with. And I'm by no means, like, a coach or program jumper, like you would see people. I stayed with people for a very long time.

And I think that's how I was able to build so much of the basics. And then since then being at Invictus, you know, they are very good at recognizing the differences in the athletes. Like everyone still kind of needs some of the same stuff, but then they recognize how to build up some of the weaknesses and really the mindset part. And I'm sure you can probably see some of that, but I think my mental game and my mindset changed quite a good bit.

And I think that was the biggest difference when I got to Invictus was really just learning to be a little more aware of myself. And, yeah, that was one of the biggest things going through Invictus. What was that process for you? Because, I mean, we trained together so long so long like i've seen some of the the highlights i've seen the lowest of points and everything seems to be significantly like there's more direction now and it's very it's i'm sure there's still negative self-talk because every athlete and person deals with that but what are some of the pieces that you guys have put in place and how have you really developed this skill set?

I used to be someone that saw other athletes that I trained with that were very good or better than me at something as a threat. And I couldn't see other women as like a peer. I was friends with these people, but if someone was better than me at something or i i saw it as a competition and i saw it as a threat and you know it it impacted me very negatively during a workout or say during competition say during the open um things like that and um as time went on and evictus i started to to see that these women are not so much my competition. They're the people that will help make me better. And if I can help make them better, they'll do the same for me. And that, I think, has been one of the biggest changes, not just as an athlete and in the gym every day, but just in my life overall, right?

It just takes away a lot of stress, a lot of anxiety, and a lot of negativity. You know, it doesn't feel good to be, like, competitive in a bad way with people that you're friends with, you know? It's nice to be able to lift each other up. Um, and that was one of the biggest things, uh, that I had to make a change because I was going to be around this environment and it just would not be tolerated. Um, and I think that was something I had to grow into it. It, like you said, growing up and with age, like the same thing with me. So that was a process. And I think that was the biggest thing. I'm sure that, you know, how I would get so defensive and so competitive and I would see people as a threat.

And a big thing at Invictus was just learning to see these women as people that I wanted to be around and I want to make them better and it's just an honor to get to train with some of the women that are at the games right now a 17 year old man and she still beats me at some things so I do get competitive so I've checked her scores this weekend because i want to make sure i'm beating her i bet she's cheating yeah because she's deb and kim she's cheating because he's half my age yeah yeah but man it's really cool to just know that you're getting to be a part of another woman's success and you know that's amazing and and that's everyone that i get to train with and i'm not seeing them as a threat anymore to me it almost feels like an accomplishment that uh like a badge

of honor that like oh these are the women that i'm helping yeah and it feels so good and when they do beat me or they start beating me when they maybe did it before on something i'm like yes yes like this is what we've been working on yeah i'm glad you're not in my age group but but no you know it's it's that's been a huge change in my mindset since being at invictus and it feels really good um what was like uh where do you guys have somebody on staff that helps you like with a lot of the mental stuff, right? Heidi, is that her name? Actually, Heidi.

Yes. Heidi is amazing. So she does our body work, acupuncture. But she's also a mindset specialist. Ah, there you go. I did get it right. So she does do, especially for all before all the open workouts, she does a mindset like a visualization. And then, you know, anytime you go in and see her for any of the body work she does,

it's like a release. And she is very good at helping you to let everything out. Because I think that's really important. But then thinking it through like logically and then visualizing how, how you want it to go and just having a mantra to say, you know? Um, and so that becomes really, really important. So I've picked up some things, uh, from her. I picked up some things from Kristen Holta, who is a mindset guru herself I believe I've just picked up some of that stuff like having a mantra to say in your head that you say in training and then that you say during a workout at the games or in a competition whether it's a long workout or a shorter workout where you're tired

and you're feeling like you can't go on you just say that mantra in your head um some of the things that i've said and i've gotten this from books as well would be like today is a gold day or you're fine everything's fine i'm fine uh that goes through my head or just take a deep breath you know and then cj will say this over and over again, every workout that he's there for that you're doing, yes, you can. Yes, you can. Yes, you can. And that's CJ's big thing that is always in my head that he's always saying is, yes, you can. And so I think any athlete just really needs to develop some type of mantra that you're going to be saying

and practice it in training as well so that it comes out in competition. You've been fighting to get to the CrossFit Games for like a decade, and then you end up here three years in a row. What is like the mindset going into your training like in the fight versus like do you feel like you belong here now? You know you want to be a savage. Thanks for taking a breakout in the show. Savagebarbell.com forward slash shrugged.

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all of the gear. Get back to the show. But I think yeah. Yeah, I do. I feel like I belong. Should that be your, yeah, I do. I feel like I belong. Should that be your new mantra? I belong. Actually, back up real quick.

Why would you not feel like you belong? You've been here three times. You've been doing this for a long time. You obviously, in my mind, belong here. I would not have suspected that you feel like you don't belong. Yeah. Well, when it got announced that it was going to be just 10 women from all over the world in my age group this year, you know, the past two years in the qualifiers I've placed, I think I was 19th or 20th, so I squeaked in.

And then last year I think I was 15th. And so when it was going to be just the top 10 and I saw the new women aging in, which would be two or three or at least two past individual games athletes. Well, there was already a few already in it. You know, I just kind of said, you know what? I was telling a story. Anytime someone would say, oh, awesome, you're going to go Masters this year. And I was like, no, you know, I had a story I would keep saying to people.

I would just say, no, you know, like these women are so amazing. And I'm on the upper end of the age group. I'm 39. Like, I just, I don't think I can make top 10. Like, it's fine. I have other things I'm going to be doing with work. And that story just kind of kept getting told. And I think it was a defense mechanism to not disappoint myself.

But also because I didn't think I belonged in that top 10. And I was worried about expectations. And so then going into the open workouts, I kind of had that thought in my head on the first workout, and it ended up to, I mean, it impacted me very negatively on the row burpees. I literally, I stopped like a couple times and told my judge, Hunter Britt, I was like, I don't want to do this anymore. And he was like, well, you're three-fourths the way through the workout.

You should just keep going. You have a choice. And I was like, fine. So I'd roll a little more, and then I'd be like, I don't want to. I don't want this. And he was just like, come on, you know. And then, you know, I felt really embarrassed afterwards, not because of my score.

It was the first time I wasn't actually disappointed. I wasn't mad or disappointed in my open score I was disappointed because all the women there was like six or seven other women that I was doing that workout with and they all saw and heard me quit yeah and I just felt like that was not an appropriate thing for me to do that was if i want to inspire people that's not the way to do it they don't care about your score you know they don't care they want to see jen ryan like with that mindset quitting is almost like a very selfish thing yes i felt very selfish to those women during that workout yeah do you know what i mean and so you didn't want to suffer with them yes for sure and it was all because of the story I'd been telling.

And so I actually came back. That was the only open workout I redid. So I talked to Ricky Moore, one of my teammates from the past two years, who makes me laugh all the time. And I was like, hey, I want to come in, and I want to do it Monday morning, and I want you to be my judge, and I need you to make me laugh. So I did it, and I and I got like 20 more reps. Still, I was not in the top 200 of my age group on that. But I didn't care.

I came away from it and I didn't lose an ounce of sleep that night. And that was awesome. And I just said, you know what? It's not happening this year and it's okay. But I went into it like the rest of the Open like, hey, why not me? Why can't I do this? So then I ended up qualifying. I ended up like 30-something place because the next ones I just had fun with

and did. And, uh, I had a solid talk with Lauren Fisher who's been a super big mindset piece for me this year. She'll be with me in workouts and read my mind and just say, keep your head in it. Stay with it. She'll literally run by me and say that Jen, keep your head in it. Stay with it. She'll literally run by me and say that. Jen, keep your head in it. Stay in it.

And it's like, oh, shoot, you read my mind. I was feeling sorry for myself, and I was on the way out the door, and she's like right there. So going into the qualifiers, like I just had this mantra, like why not me? Like I literally said, why not me? Why can't I do this, you know? Why do you keep doing it? Because I think it helps.

Remember, like from when I was a kid, I just, I wanted something different. I wanted something more. And for me, this is more. Yeah. This is the more that I've wanted. It's different. And it's something I can be doing that's hopefully like inspiring other people and helping them. It's just, it's hard to let it go because I feel good.

I love the people I'm around. I love all the feedback I hear. So, yeah, it's just, it's something different to keep doing in my life. And, you know. You get to, it's something different to keep doing in my life. And, uh, you know, you get to keep playing. I get to keep playing. I get to keep competing. And, um, I think that just, that's just my personality. Yeah. Um, you actually just stopped your nursing career as well. Like you're significantly more than just an athlete. All of the work that you put into like learning your own body and learning the nutrition has turned into coaching not small-named athletes.

Yeah. Do you want to talk about a little bit of the journey through nutrition and just where you're at? Yeah. Well, it all kind of started, the nutrition coaching piece started when I started working with a nutrition coach, um, back in 2014.

And I loved what it did for me mentally, as well as of course, like physically, like my performance improved, um, body composition clearly. But, uh,

I think mentally it helped me a lot. Learn some things about my body. Um, it's not a big secret but i've come from like an eating disordered past for probably about 20 years and um man it helped me so much start to understand myself and and my relationship with food and my body and so i um i got my certification um I got my license. And I started doing nutrition coaching for some of the personal training clients at CrossFit PB.

My wife, ready for the wedding. Yeah, yes. Get a mask, Jen. Yeah. She crushed it. And I loved it. And I could incorporate working as an ER nurse where you're at the bedside, you're triaging, you're really taking everything in and then having to critically think about how to help each person. And I could take everything that I learned about the body and the metabolism and hormones and everything and put it more towards helping people in improving their performance and, you know, achieving the body composition they want as opposed to just going towards all the disease processes I always had to work with, which can sometimes be a little more rewarding.

And so I then continued on. And once I started at Invictus, you know, I had a pretty good client base at that point. And then I got to Invictus and got to chatting with CJ just about what I did and what my various professions were. And he seemed to really, he liked what I had to say. You could say it. I was a boss and CJ recognized it. Well, I think it's helpful to know that. They see that I practice what I preach, you know. And so he definitely was really adamant about having all of his athletes, many of the games athletes and regional level athletes, talk to me

and, you know, start working with me. And I think a lot of the higher level athletes there, games athletes, saw that I practiced what I preach and like, oh, wow, like, hey, Jen Ryan's 15 years older than me and she's crushing it in a way. I'm not crushing it, but, you know, for me, for myself, I thought I was doing fairly well. And so many of them, I was blessed to have them come on and work with me. And I've gotten to continue that, which has been amazing because I relate very well clearly to athletes and helping their mindset and relationship with food and helping with performance and body composition.

And then also working with general weight loss clients. And so I generally work mostly off of referrals for the most part. I don't put a ton of marketing out there. We're going to get better at that. As we've talked about in the past. We've already discussed getting better at that. I love the one-on-one work, which is what I do. And I love that.

And I think that goes along with my ER nursing, just having that 10 years of being in the ER face-to-face, talking with people, and then being a coach for so, so long. And that is super helpful, I think, going into the online realm because you have that background of being in person with someone. And I think I'm very – I love personalized things. And that's so, so important to me. I've heard you say many times when we talk about nutrition

and like some of the the the companies and like the nutrition coaches that are out there discussing like there's a significant difference between having a six-pack and fueling your body for performance or competing in crossfit, because that's kind of the realm. Can you just dig on that for a little bit? Because I you say it, I understand at like a high level what that means. But if someone comes to you for weight loss, how are you attacking that? And then after we'll talk about the performance side of things. Yeah. So of course, initially it's always going to be, what is your first goal? And then you have to definitely listen a little bit more and then help them

guide them into that. And so if it definitely is, um, you know, weight loss, so generally fat loss, right? Because we want to,

I want to educate people that you probably don't want to lose unless you're extremely overweight. You don't want to be losing muscle as well. So we're looking to lose fat. Once we determine that goal, then we're going to go about it a little bit differently than if it was someone who is strictly looking for performance. Right. And so, um, we're going to have to take a look at, Hey, like you might end up, you know, having to deal with some of the things that are uncomfortable, like maybe some hunger. You might be a little tired, but, you know, we might have to change up some of your training. But we have to focus on all the basics.

So you're always going to be focusing on your sleep. You're always going to be focusing on how your body feels. You're always going to be focusing on, especially for those who are in that, uh, general, you know, weight loss, fat loss realm, like in lifestyle factors, we're going to be focusing on food quality and just making sure we're getting you feeling better. Um, once we kind of get to that point, then, then we start really making sure we're paying attention to, okay, is the hunger overwhelming? Is the energy like, you know, being super fatigued? Is that overwhelming? Then we need to start changing things up. So I even sometimes we'll see, you know, the people who, uh, feel over fat, if you will, instead of overweight, um, you know, I won't call it under eating, but I will say that

they have been trying to be on a diet for an extremely long period of time. I have some women in their 50s and 60s who have literally been eating like 11 or 1200 calories. And they'll be like, I'm just afraid to have a little bit more. I'm so tired. I'm so hungry. I feel like crap all the time. I can't lose weight, but I'm scared to eat something else. And that to me is like, oh gosh, like you've been going your whole life trying to undereat.

And it doesn't make sense to them that they are over fat. Right. And what we talk about is, well, you probably end up sitting a lot. You probably have no energy. So you're not moving very much like you're not doing a lot of things. So let's start just moving and walking. Let's give you more food and it's it's not um it's not always quite that simple but most of their bodies end up just shutting down yeah storing because they've just been starving for so long and it doesn't

want to do a whole lot right so they don't do all the same things that they used to do and then when they start to realize that when you change that up like you don't have to be afraid of the food i'm not saying that then they should really go into this big surplus but um you know just helping them first of all change their their outlook on food and what's good and bad you know uh and then why eating a little bit more might help you if we can start getting the body moving a little bit more again. And so that's a big thing with the general population. Yeah. When we get into the performance thing, you've worked with multiple CrossFit Games athletes on the individual side.

Are people still off in this nutrition thing are they just like looking for a little guidance and someone to nod their head and say yes you're doing it right I guess how do you even start with somebody like that because they're clearly in the top quarter percent of humans when it comes to just the whole system functioning at a high level yeah uh you know I find I tend to find that a lot of guys a lot of the men are just kind of like whatever especially if they're in their 20s they're just kind of like i can eat whatever or not whatever do whatever you know and um i find that sometimes they are the ones that you really have to kind of doubt they're not as well they can do anything they want exactly fried

chicken yeah bread every day like at least willing to change because of that? Are you at least willing to change because of that? I wouldn't say at least willing to change. I have some that are really good about, like, hey, I'll do whatever you say, Jen, you know. And then there's some that, so I'm going to drop my friend Rasmus. I love that guy. He, I have to give little things, too. Like, we talk about how many fish oils a day he's going to take and that's his goal. Right. And then we built on that. Like, uh, the one week it,

this was like a month and a half ago. I was like, okay, there's a certain amount of fish oil you're going to take a day. So we did that two weeks later, we built on top of that, like, okay, how many meals a day we're going to add with veggies. And then here's what I want you to have your post-workout shake and he mess he goes that's a really big step up from that one goal of the day with the official he's great like he he'll do he'll be like i would say i've done it like 80 of the time on the other things but you know there's one thing that he will stick with and and with some of those people especially the guys like you do have to like it's the same just because these these people are

elite athletes doesn't mean they don't struggle with some of the same things like routine and accountability that all the quote-unquote normal people do right like they still struggle with some of the same stuff you know and so i find that i have to start them in certain places too so it's just the little things and if they'll do just a few of the things instead of being like here's the 10 things you have to do here's the macros you have to hit and they're like oh shoot i'm not doing any of this you know and it's like so uh that sounds very precision nutritiony of you the way you just laid that whole thing out yeah was that part of your background um no i i don't have my precision nutrition certification uh i it's just experience they write the best one for a reason yeah right after you do something for a long time everyone

converges on the same good ideas yeah i've read through some of it um i think some of it also comes from my nursing background uh and just working with different people, patients, you know, trying to give them a discharge plan. Well, if you'll do this one thing, will you do this one thing? Because, you know, physicians come in sometimes and they want them to do five different things or there's all these different beds, all these different things. And I'll just, once they've gone over that, and I can tell they're probably not going to do any of it, which most of them don't, I'll just say,

Hey, here's one thing that maybe you could do. Like, do you think you could do this every day? See how it works out for you. You know, um, if someone gets a,

you know, a fracture or a sprain and you're telling them to do 10 different things like rest, height, uh, rest, you know, uh,

elevate and, uh, and take this ibuprofen and take this Norco and all these different things. And well, they're definitely going to take the Norco. I was going to say, that sounds like they'll do. They may or may not take the ibuprofen. No, I'm fine. You still taking your Norco?

Oh, yeah. I doubled it. But then, you know, what's the one thing I can do to help them? Well, hey, can you also make sure that you eat, you know, I try to think of some things with some high fiber and how to get some fluids in so that, because I know with the Norco, they might get stopped up because they don't think it's a big deal. So I just say, Hey, what's the one other thing I can get you to do? And if they agree to it, because you make it seem really important, then they'll do it. And maybe they'll

do some of the other things too. So, um, that was but i guess it's just it's you know it's true i love it but uh that's that's kind of thing so it's the same thing um with general weight loss population and even the elite athletes but then you have some uh like uh rasmus's girlfriend lauren who fisher who she she takes it very seriously. Um, I try to give her a lot of education on it and she enjoys that part. And so, uh, someone like her, uh, she's really on top of it. Um, she's taken a lot of it into her own hands and then we'll discuss a lot of things. And that's really fun being at the gym with her a lot because I'll be like, Hey, I just, uh, I've been learning about this, or I tried, uh, you know, this, and I think this would work really well. So someone like her as an elite athlete,

she's very into the performance aspect. I love someone like her because she is not concerned so much with having a six-pack and abs. She still has been in the game for a really long time, not really burned out, and she's doing very well. She seems oddly like, maybe not oddly, because she's been an athlete her whole life but um when you and it'd be interesting to hear what you have to say about this but a lot of the people that we come across in this world and i think it's something that's so cool is like body image is not discussed as much like not nearly as much as performance and it gives you a really cool in to actually talk about health and kind of like longevity and fueling your body

and it's very cool to see lauren going out on instagram talking about how she doesn't care about having abs or being super lean and how everything she's doing working with you is performance based yeah i mean and and she's still a female you know and so we have our discussions sometimes where it's kind of like it's like a beach week's coming up yeah yeah let's back it down a little bit cut me 250 cows she's still a female right she's still a woman who you know wants to look good so but um overall you know the first thing she ever said to me uh what was it 2007 uh spring early like february 2017 or january we started working together one of the things she said first things was jen i'm not like other girls I don't concern myself or I'm not concerned with having abs.

I just want to make sure I'm fueled well, I perform well, and I feel good. And that has stuck with me so much. And it's something that I relay to many other, especially younger women and even older women who come to me with some same aspirations. And I try to let them know that, you know, that's something that stuck out to me. And I appreciate that in her for some of the younger women. Yeah. Big time. And so, yeah. But that's an example of someone who's a little bit more on the very diligent end,

a very easy athlete to work with, you know, and then I've got some in between. And so it's fun. Pain in the ass. No, no, there's none that are pain. Take your fish oil. Gosh. Oh, man, that guy's a good dude.

You're not a child anymore. He's a good dude. And there's so many that have been fun to work with. But you have created like a life in fitness and one thing that i just love about being in this space as long as i have is like people often don't know how much you can affect like an industry if you're just here for a decade yeah and you genuinely give a shit and you try to help people because you've got people doing massive weight loss and getting healthy. There's CrossFit

Games athletes, but you've also like our nutritionist for Shrugged, Aaron Straker, his girlfriend. Yeah. They just quit their jobs, went on a world tour. Yeah. And you were the one that taught them about protein, fat, and carbohydrate. Well, they already kind of knew. But, yeah, Jenny, Aaron's girlfriend, I had messaged her a while back, a couple years ago, because I needed someone to kind of come on and be my right-hand person in all this. And I said, you know, if you want to come on and do all this, and maybe you'll, you know, get your license.

And then, you know, the goal would be, come on, start taking some clients after you're in the role. And so Aaron was also a big, he was the first person I went to about getting my website done because that was his job. Meatheads with tech skills. Yeah, yeah. They're important.

They're rare. Definitely. But he worked with us too, and it was great. We would have team meetings. And I didn't know it at the time because I was so – I was very far – I was still working full-time as a nurse, and I was very into the CrossFit thing. It's hard to think about all these other things. It's hard to think about being an entrepreneur with all that.

Yeah. And, you know, we would have team meetings. And, you know, we had a couple other people. And it was so amazing. And I think that they just both really loved it and saw how great it was to help people. Yeah. Like, sure, it's also very fun. But it feels so good to, like people for real and uh yeah so they

are both they have both gone on to just do so much which is so cool to see and um people have asked me about it and i've just said you know if i had no idea but if what I'm doing inspires people to do something like that, like quit the jobs that – I don't want people to quit jobs. But what I'm saying, you should have a job, people. Please have jobs. But, you know, they saw something they were passionate about, and if many, many years down the road they are happy with their life and what they're doing and that got them the in and inspired

them to do it then like that's pretty freaking cool like that again like that's why i keep doing crossfit is it's it's inspiring to be helping other people and seeing them do it too and it's the same thing with that like if i can bring somebody on to do some things for a little while, and they are learning and loving it, and they can make themselves happier, then that's really freaking cool. Well, you are an entrepreneur now. You have stopped nursing. You have this big – well, you have a nutrition business that you are – oh, you haven't told your parents?

She has not told her parents yet that she that we probably won't edit this either. That's okay. I mean, they listen. They love you guys, but they won't listen. At least you have something going on already when you quit. Oh, yeah. I love that they were just out here watching you smash people in the CrossFit games, and you were like, I've got to go to nursing tomorrow.

Not really. I've got to fly back. How about this? You're starting a business, and you are an entrepreneur now, and you are a three-times Games athlete, and next year you're going to be the young person in the next age group. Yeah. And you've got a lot going on.

How are you going to balance this building a new business? You know what? I've, again, kind of done this thing because what I always do, I want to be the best and I want to do better. So I sought out a business coach, a coach. Everybody needs coaches. A mentor. Can I say his name?

Totally. His name's Cody McBroom Boom Boom Performance. I sought him out because I was going to seek out Anders but he's a friend and so we already talked a lot.

She thought I'd be free. No. Can you help? Here's the thing. I need tasks and something to make sure that I'll do and with you we would just I feel, shoot the shit and like, blah, blah, blah.

And then I might not do it. But just so you all know, AV is always full of amazing ideas. Anyhow, so I have been following him and listening to Cody for probably over a year now. And I appreciate everything that he does and he's also in the nutrition and training space and so I felt like he had a general idea of what I would need assistance with and so I started with him I think in March or April I can't remember but I was telling you about it and so he wasn't one of the big names out there, because I didn't want that. I didn't want the same old spiel.

I've done something like that before, and that doesn't motivate me. I didn't want that. I wanted something more personal, and someone that I would also be afraid to disappoint this person, so I'm going to do it. I stay on top of my tasks. So he has helped me learn how to really like time block around as I was still, uh, uh, working a shift at the time, uh, the hospital too. So I needed to make sure I could time block around that, uh, around my training. And then, um, I, I told him, I said, I want to take my nutrition coaching business to the next level. I love it. And I can see it going farther.

And so, yeah, like I said, I sought someone out that could help me because I know that there are ways to be better at these things. And I needed someone to show me the way. And so that was something I did. Coaches need coaches. Do you recognize all the similarities in being a great athlete and being good at business? I say all of them. I'm getting there. That was like me saying there's a lot. Yeah. I mean, you have to do all the basics. You need coaches for everything, right? All aspects of the things. And so and you need a team. It takes a village. And so it takes

a village of people to help you with your website because I barely know how to turn my computer on and off half the time. And so I'd always be asking Greg Pitts, like, shoot, something happened. What do I do? There's great stories that Aaron and Jenny have about me not knowing how to use a computer or any of the things to do on the computer. So, you know, I have that. That's, you know, part of my village.

Also my, you know, my mentor and then just everyone else. Pitts has even helped me with my website. And thanks. You have been a big force in my business. AV is very grandiose. He is very, I don't know if that's the right term, but he has some of the greatest ideas, and he pumps me up for them.

And then I'm like, I'm going to turn it down just a little, and I think that's my spot. Like, that's my sweet spot. I know how to take something out 10 years real easy. Yeah. And so that's been big. But, yeah. Is this something where you want to have, like,

30 clients and just yourself, and that's the whole business? Or you want to have, like, 10 coaches under you, and they all have 30 clients, and you want to have like 30 clients in just yourself and that's the whole business? Or you want to have like 10 coaches under you and they all have 30 clients and you want to build this bigger thing? So that's been something that we've talked about is bringing someone else on. When I qualified for the games and I did not think I was going to, I sent two people a message. That was my – well, two threads, my family and my mentor. And I said, oh, shit, I accidentally qualified for the CrossFit Games.

Such a tough problem. Such a bummer. I really legitimately was like, I had told Cody, I was like, this summer I'm going to be hitting it hard. I'm building this thing. It's going to be big. And then I was like, oh, man, kink in this shit. Going to have to take a couple weekends off for training.

Yeah, yeah. I got to go to training camp in Minnesota. Yeah. But it's been really good to have someone to help me calm it down and just get my, okay, here's what you do. Here's how we do this, right? And instead of me, who is someone who just sees things right here and now, he sees the future very well and helps me plan out for it. And that has been really important. So, wait, did I answer the question?

I think you got there. Yeah, balancing your – I was more or less asking about your vision for the future. Oh, yeah, yes, that's right. What's your game plan? So that was something we wanted to do. I have someone in mind that i've talked to and so that is something here in the next couple weeks that i'll be kind of pursuing once i get back from

games and then um getting some things in alignment i have a little bit of time to now kind of dig into that so yeah um i love working with people And so I would like to keep a larger client load just because I really enjoy it. And I know people kind of say that that changes. And sure, maybe a little bit. But I think if you find the right people that you want to work with, it's still really enjoyable. So there's that. And then, yeah, that's kind of where i'm at right now again just i'm constantly reassessing what my goals and outcomes are for the business and where i want to go with it earlier you were

saying that you liked the in-person one-on-one connection is that something where you only are going to be dealing with clients in person or are you looking for you know virtual clients as well text email or whatever else to to handle someone who's not actually in the same town as you? Yeah. So currently I do everything's, you know, online. And I have clients in Australia and many over in Europe as well as across the US. So most of that is done via email or I also do, you know, we'll do texts, phone calls um different things like that facebook messenger so some people are really they do much better i think with the if they can talk to me instead of just via email so i think that is something that is helpful and does differentiate me from some other people um i know a lot of people say no no, just go only email. But if I can

help someone and make a big difference by doing what they need, then I don't mind that. Um, you know, and so, uh, that's, I don't mind doing that now. Also, um, I work with the Invictus nutrition program, so that is online, but I've been talking with some of the, the managers at, um the Invictus Nutrition Program, so that is online. But I've been talking with some of the managers at Invictus who really want to bring something in-house and in-person for the Invictus members. And so I've had some people reach out about that. So that would be something I'd like to bring, too. And, again, I enjoy it. I love sitting down face-to-face. Sometimes just staring at a computer and talking over a phone and a text

gets very mundane to me. So maybe that's why I'm talking so much today. It's perfect. People! But it is. And that's part of the ER nurse in me, right? Like, I've always been bedside nurse. I've always been in the ER. And I think I do enjoy meeting with people in person and talking with them. Yeah. I understand that. We could have done all virtual Skype calls and whatnot for podcasting, you know, since day one for the last seven years,

but that just would have gotten old very, very quick. Like being in person, you know, that costs many thousands of dollars a month to travel around oftentimes to actually do these in person. But I think it's totally worth it because it's just that much more fun than just staring at my, my zoom call on my computer. Yeah. And it'll be different. And, and I think I'm someone who's, I've, I don't think I can ever remember a time where I didn't have two jobs. I've literally always had two jobs. Um, because I, I like all kinds of different things, you know,

like I like the in-person stuff. I I don't know I just when I did coaching at PB and then I was also a nurse and that you know and I I want to keep my hands in different things so I want to keep my hands in some in-person things so that might mean going back again to doing per diem at the hospital that might mean doing some in-person nutrition consults, you know, with people, with members, and then keeping the online stuff. But I enjoy that because I think it keeps everything fresh. And you don't get to where you have a disdain for any piece of it, you know.

And I think that's really important to me. Yeah. I think keeping these trips. If we go, like, four weeks without a trip and we're not like in this around these people and like I start to go crazy. Dude, we got to get on the road. I don't know what my purpose is in life right now. I'm just writing emails and social and I'm like, let's go out and do the thing. Let's go.

Let's do the party. Luckily, we have lots of those coming up. Yeah, we have a lot. We're going to Olympia, Tahoe, Sweden. Dang. Spartan World Championships. It's the thing in Tahoe. Laco. Then we're going to Strong New York.

You should come to Strong. Just hop in a plane and come to New York. Come hang out with Kenny Santucci. I mean, I probably could. Ask him about the challenge. Yeah. We'll promote you. We'll get you. We'll make sure everybody knows how cool you are.

Make Kenny pay for the trip. I also want to let everyone know I'm single. Ooh, there it is. Turns out if you qualify for the CrossFit Games five times. That's the real reason she came on the show. Just throwing that out there. Men. CrossFit men. No, that's a fun part of my personality. I always show. Just throwing that out there. CrossFit men.

That's a fun part of my personality. I always have to throw something stupid in there. If you like this podcast, swipe right. Yes, baby. Yes. That's amazing. Besides on Tinder, where can people find you? Oh, my God.

I'm not on there. I'm too old for that stuff, I think. That's where you find the young ones. Yeah. It's technology. I don't know how to even do it. It's weird. Where can people find me?

Let's see. I'm on Instagram as Jenny Lynn. That's with a Y. It's J-E-N-N-I-L-Y-N-33. Jenny Lynn 33. And then my nutrition coaching business is Lifeline Performance. I like that name. I thought it was fun.

Yeah, I like it. I like that. And then, let's see, I'm on Facebook as Jen Ryan, but I don't really post a lot in there. If you go to Facebook to find Jen Ryan, you're doing it wrong. It means you're 65 years old. It means you're three age groups ahead of her in the master's division. You can go back there and see some of the pictures from my late 20s, I think.

Because early 20s, I didn't have Facebook. Can I get nutrition advice from this woman? She has a beard. She has two beards in each hand. It was Michelob Ultra, okay? Oh, there you go. Hey, Kenny Santucci. Kenny Santucci.

Sponsored by Michelob Ultra. Yeah, there he is. There you go. You guys are friends. It was an Ultra. Kenny's winning this weekend. There you go. He's ignoring us on purpose. He hears us. Yeah, he knows. Look at him. Greg Pitts, tell him how to live. You guys are friends. It was an ultra. Kenny's winning this weekend. There you go. He's ignoring us on purpose.

He hears us. Yeah, he knows. Look at him. Greg Pitts, tell him how to live. You can find me, Greg Pitts. You can tell me how to live on Instagram. There you go. You can find me on Instagram as well, Doug Larson, at Douglas E. Larson.

I'm Anders Varner, at Anders Varner. We're the Shrug Collective at the Shrug Collective. OneToneChallenge.com. Jen Ryan. My life is complete. We got to do this thing on the Barbell Shrugged podcast, and I freaking love you. I'm so happy for everything that's happened.

I'm so happy that we went through this just super awesome time of life, and I'm very grateful for our relationship and friendship. We'll see you guys next Wednesday. That's a wrap, friends. 20 rep back squats. Get on it right now. ShruggedCollective.com forward slash 20. Also, sponsors.

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