Barbell Shrugged - Why Our Parents Had Nutrition all Wrong and Raising Ryan Fischer w/ Ryan’s Mom — Real Chalk #53

Episode Date: December 11, 2018

    What do nutrition trends, ex-girlfriend stories, and family gossip have in common? They all get air time on this long-awaited episode featuring my mom, the one and only Kim Karecky. She’s been my biggest supporter through all my endeavors, and she’s here to talk about how the definition of “healthy” has changed in her lifetime and what she’s learned about her own eating habits. We take a look in her fridge, reminisce about my childhood, and swap stories that will make you laugh out loud.   You may have listened to other podcasts about my background, but you’ve never gotten the kind of inside look that this episode will give you—from my favorite snacks as a kid, to what it was like to call girls in high school, to how I became the crazy-jacked track athlete in high school. It’s all here, and it’s all riddled with commentary from the woman who knows me best. She tells it like it is and is unashamedly herself, iced coffee obsession and all.   As always, there’s a ton of great info packed in here too, both common sense and totally nonsensical. Do you know how low-quality fat affects your brain? Did you know you can pull your heart muscle? Or that if you’re short enough, you can get a handicapped placard?   Listen and enjoy!! - Ryan   HIGHLIGHTS: 1:00 Fruit snacks, cavities, and toast with sugar 7:45 Ryan is thinking about candy bars (If it isn’t in front of you, it can’t tempt you) 10:00 How to pull your heart muscle 12:30 Elite athletes...smoke? 13:15 Nutrition myths that leave lasting impressions 16:30 Want abs like Ryan? If you didn’t start working out out at 13, it’s too late 18:30 The good old days when you had to call a girl at home 20:30 Video Games ruined childhood 27:30 accidental intermittent fasting and macros for dummies 30:30 Sugar is a substitute drug 32:30 Diet fads and why they don’t work 37:00 What’s the secret to longevity? 40:00 Smoke, drink, eat like sh*t—and live to be 100?! 42:00 Ryan explains the effects of stress scientifically 43:30 Fridge clean-out: Ryan’s mom edition 45:45 How food labels trick you 54:00 “Organic” is a lie 55:30 Kim’s got a point: you don’t see recalls on ice cream and candy bars 59:30 “Sensible eating” looks different for everyone 1:00:00 Your brain on low-quality fat, and why it’s harder to be healthy than it used to be (RIP milkmen) 1:05:00 Even wild animals are getting sick 1:06:30 What you need to know about “grass-fed” 1:08:30 Raw milk is a terrible choice (bacon and bear meat are also bad) 1:14:30 Why there’s corn syrup in everything, and no actual maple syrup in maple syrup 1:19:30 Welch’s grape jelly is really just sugar 1:22:00 The wisdom of religion 1:25:00 Food is a business, and companies are putting Mercedes-Benz labels on beater-car products 1:27:00 Don’t keep it to yourself. Spread the word, improve a life. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Show notes: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/rc_mom -----------------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/ barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged  

Ladies and gentlemen, this is going to be my all-time favorite episode, hands down. I had the opportunity this time to talk my mom into coming on the show and talking about nutrition, talking about my upbringing, talking about the things that we ate when I was a kid growing up, talking about what she thought nutrition was. She's 60 years old. I also asked her some of the things that she saw when she was a kid on the TV or in the store or things like that, just kind of things that we aren't really used to seeing in our modern age.

I mean, when she was a kid, they were marketing cigarettes as a diet because it made you suppress your appetite, and there was pills out there dexedrine and jazzercise was popping up and slim fast drinks and all these different things that we're not used to really seeing nowadays but was really really normal to her it's just amazing and then i also pull some stuff out of the fridge my favorite ones probably like i pulled out mayonnaise and the first ingredient was soybean oil so i I thought that to try to explain to her that what you think is mayonnaise is actually not mayonnaise at all. And we pull out a couple other things, salad dressings and ketchups and all these different things. And I try to explain to her.

So what I really want this episode to be is not only is there just so much comical stuff going on because it's me and my mom. And she's absolutely out of her mind like I am. So we have a really good little conversation going the entire time. It's out of control. But also I think this is a great episode for you guys to learn a lot for yourselves to talk to your moms or your grandmas. Or maybe this is a great episode that you listen to. You laugh. You get a lot out of it,

and then you make them listen to it. So this is the first episode that I think is really appropriate to pretty much everybody. And it's a great listen. It's just so, so, so good. And I'm so excited for you guys to listen to it. On the sponsor side today, we're gonna be going with all of the things

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and need in their programming. And then CrossFit's like that more advanced thing that we've been, you know, figuring out the kinks with and everything over the last 10 years. So everything's been changing quite a bit. I do add a lot of the high intensity, the interval bodybuilding stuff into my classes. So you'll see that if you ever become a member on that. So all you have to do is go to my Instagram, Ryan Fish, R-Y-A-N-F-I-S-C-H. Click on the link in my bio and that will bring you to my online programming. And it's $20 a month. It'll bring you straight to an app on your phone. It'll give you an interactive scoreboard with all the people in the world that are on there. You can save your workouts. You can track your progress. I mean, there's tons and tons of things you can do on there.

And then also for the e-books that I have, you just go to CrossFitChalk.com. You click Shop, and you'll see I have a 30-day kettlebell e-book, and I have my two different volumes of high-intensity interval bodybuilding. It doesn't matter which one you start with. They're both just 30-day programs. and then I have some nutrition stuff on there as well that you guys can pick up. What I'll do right now for the shrugged listeners is if you buy any of those books, um, I will basically give you, let's do 20% off. I'll give you 20% off code. Just put code real chalk in all capital letters and you'll get 20% off any one of those books.

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I love all of you guys. You guys are just really, really making my life so fulfilling. And I'm just every year getting more and more excited of the things to come. I hope you guys really enjoy this episode. It is the jam. Get ready to listen to my mom with her New Jersey accent, which I lost. I'm very sorry I lost it. But she's still got it for you guys.

So here we go. Let's listen to the show. Let's have some laughs. Let's learn some things. And let's sit down in the kitchen in my house in Toms River, New Jersey. All right, Chalk Nation. It's Tuesday, which means it's time for another episode of Real Chalk. But this time I have brought on a very special lady that people have asked me to have on for a very long

time. Do you want to go ahead and say hi? Hi. This is Ryan's mom, and I actually feel like I'm in the recording studio. We are in my mom's kitchen. We are in Whiting, New Jersey, Manchester Township. I was in New York for a few days at the Strong Fit competition, and then I said, why not? Go ahead and see mom, and then also let's have her on the podcast. So I thought it would be an interesting time to basically talk about nutrition stuff, but in terms of what our parents think of nutrition, what they grew up thinking of nutrition as being, what they were told nutrition was, things like that. Because I think nutrition, it changes over time. So you're 60.

Yeah. And how many times have you seen nutrition change now? It's changed so many times. A million. A million times. As I'm eating my whorehound. So my mom thinks that this whorehound thing that she's eating is healthy. It's very good for my stomach.

So who said that? I don't know. The lady in the grocery store. Yeah, see? That's what happens. So that's basically what we're going to get into is basically marketing. So they call marketing strategy in the marketing field, especially on labels and stuff like that, they call it quackery.

So basically quackery is, you know, I can do whatever I want on this label because no one's going to validate whether or not it's correct. So I want to start with like what's probably like the first thing that you saw on the TV that had to do with nutrition? I don't know because I don't watch that stuff. No, you watched it at some point. Like did you ever see any – because I remember seeing like maybe even 10 or 20 years ago I saw like watch that stuff. No, you watched it at some point. Like, did you ever see any... Because I remember seeing, like, maybe even 10 or 20 years ago, I saw, like, a milk commercial.

And it just said, drink milk. And I remember... And it wasn't promoting a special brand. It was just saying, drink milk. Right. And how many times have you seen something that was like, eat a low-fat diet or do this or do that?

Well, I read more about it than I actually see. Okay. So what's the first thing you remember as a kid? Well, actually, I don't remember anything as a kid. Truthfully – Because you hit your head? No. I just – nobody ever discussed it.

It was never something that discussed whether something was healthy or it wasn't healthy. And then as you guys started to get older, you know, they came out with fruit snacks and fruit roll-ups and you were told that these are good for your kids. Yeah. And so you thought, well, all right, I want my kids to eat something healthy. And you bought it. And then I took you to the dentist and your sister had 15 cavities. And I said, well, that can't be.

I mean, how could this be? I feed my kids healthy. Well, what do you feed them? Well, I mean, the snacks, fruit roll-ups and fruit snacks. Well, that's why every tooth is rotting out of their head. No way. You've got to be kidding me. So, I mean, you would think fruit snack.

I thought it was something healthy because that was something healthy that hit the food market at the time. You know, where it was all the cookies and candy and cake and, you know, every magazine you looked at truthfully. I don't know about other people, but Good Housekeeping, all these magazines told you to go out and buy, you know, like the Pillsbury buns or rolls. But then on that label, it told you how to make monkey bread, which was all cinnamon and sugar. And you kids loved it. I remember being a kid and I remember I would make, I don't even know what you call it. The cinnamon buns. But we would do like the toast.

We put it in the toaster. Cinnamon toast, yeah. And then we would toast it and then we'd put butter all over it, which was probably really margarine, right? We don't think we – It was margarine and sugar and cinnamon. Yeah, so margarine is not even actually butter. No. It's vegetable oils and different things mixed together and you think it's butter.

And then they came out with something called – I can't believe it's not butter. Right. And it's fucking – it's not butter. Which is what I use because i think it's healthy yeah so um i would put that all over it and then i would put cinnamon and then sugar on it and i put it in the microwave or we would get those pretzels remember and i'd cut out the craft cheese singles oh yeah yeah you know that's not even cheese like that's actually another thing where it's like a right just a whole collage of different things mixed together and it creates this cheese.

And cereal because it had the toy inside it. Yeah, the toy inside. They really like lured you in on that. Right. Or McDonald's because you got the toy of the month and if you collected them all, they were going to be collector's items. So you had to get the kid's meal. Some of those things probably are worth some money right now. I've got lots of them.

Oh, do you? Yeah. um so yeah um fruit snacks basically i would say we're i think between fruit snacks and spaghetti it's probably all i ate as a kid yeah because it was cheap it was cheap to but well but we didn't even know what nutrition was. You didn't. No one did, right? Right. And then raising five kids, what are you going to eat? You know what I mean? That's going to be nutritious for a family of five. So you ate a lot of pasta. And you heard Prego and Rego, Ragu, rather.

All the – And all of these were – The stuff that we would do in a can. I forgot about that. And that was all great stuff. Yeah. You know, if you had I didn't have the money when you guys were really little. So you weren't going to go out to the store and buy bourgeois and sausage and meatballs and all because you couldn't afford it. So it was easier to get a coupon and you went out and bought that.

You got macaroni and cheese in the box. The Velveeta. The Velveeta, which everybody loved. I hope some of you guys around the world all have this stuff too because I'm in New Jersey when this is all happening. So hopefully you guys have it. I know in California, now that I'm in California, it still feels like we're a hundred years ahead of New Jersey.

Like what do you feel like when you go to the food store in California and you come here? A world of difference. It's different, right? A world of difference. It's crazy. It's completely different. And I don't know what it's like for some of you guys out there who live in like Nebraska

or like North or South Dakota. I haven't actually never been to any of those states, but I've been to like Montana. And I remember it was very, very different life. Well, what happened just this afternoon when you got here and you were looking up a decent restaurant? Oh, that was really hard. Couldn't even find one. Can't find one. So my mom gets really stressed out when I get in town because she's like, I don't have any fucking food in the fridge.

And I know you're going to want something and I'm like, Mom, I'm just going to go to the food store. It's not a big deal. I'll figure it out. And the worst part is

you came at the worst time because I have every freaking Christmas cookie known to man. I've got the Oreos with the cinnamon, no, Oreos with the peppermint bark.

Three bags. I might have one of those. Three bags. Three bags of, I can't even think of it, popcorn with the peppermint bark. Three bags. I might have one of those. Three bags. Three bags of, I can't even think of it, popcorn with the vanilla. Oh, I remember when Aunt Seal used to give us popcorn for Christmas and we would get the big bin. Because it was cheap. It was $10.

It was $10. Caramel and then like regular popcorn. I remember just like crushing the cheddar one before all the other flavors yeah but um yeah so i guess during that time i hadn't really picked up a magazine yet which magazines now are still awful but like i hadn't like i didn't know anything about nutrition i remember the first time that i had heard anything about nutrition and this is what makes me think about like when i have a kid one day i'm going to make sure that I say certain things that just stick.

Do you remember when you were a kid, someone said something that stuck and you never forgot it? Well, the saying that you... Do you have anything like that? Yes, because the saying that you hear now with a lot of people homeschooling their children, back then you didn't hear of it.

Never. But here, now you hear of people that are homeschooling their kids and they don't feed them anything that's sweet and so what's the saying i know i'm not going to get it right but you you know you don't know what a hamburger tastes like if you've always eaten steak or something similar to that. But the people today seem to know better. But even in this area, not so much. People will sit down and have a salad or they'll have a chicken breast. All right, maybe they'll make a healthy meal.

They'll go out of their way to make that healthy meal, like my husband. Prime example. Yeah, he does. And then he'll eat it healthy. He'll only drink water water but at the end of the night he's eating six candy bars so you just defeated the whole freaking purpose yeah but then there's that element of temptation right so like yeah i don't ever think about a candy bar it's the farthest thing from my thought like i cannot ever even imagine dreaming about a candy bar

but since i've been in this house i've thought about a candy bar 740 because there's shit everywhere you look no because it's like fucking trader joe's and you get to the counter right there's the good and there's all the goodies and they're just especially or even any grocery store in the world it's it's all the stuff it's all the stuff all the good stuff and then all of a sudden you get to the register and it's like hey do you want a twix hey do you want a reese's peanut butter Hey, you're in a long ass line. Do I look better now? Yeah. So you start looking at it.

So where do you hang out at the house? You hang out in the kitchen. Well, that's it. Where's all your candy? It's right in this jar right in the kitchen. And it's all what you're used to. Now, I was sick. I told you that. I was sick with the acid reflux real bad.

And first thing I said, first day or two, I couldn't eat anything because I get it very different than most people. I get a choking sensation. So I was terrified to eat anything because, you know, you literally feel like you're choking. They actually say that a lot of that can be resolved with digestive enzymes and probiotics. Yeah. We should talk about that. Yeah, but I've also heard where they say that's a bunch of BS recently. More than 80% of them are actually dead probiotics.

Like the product itself is crap. But I decided, okay, well, I'm going to eat healthy. And I did, you know. But the minute I was feeling better, it just wasn't something that was going to stick with me. Now, having said that, when I was – after you guys were all born, did I go to Jazzercise? We're going to bring that up too. Did I go to the gym? Did I work out?

Yes. My problem was you didn't even go into the gym. You didn't know any better. And people scared the shit out of you. Like, for instance, I was going to the YMCA. And it was a machine. I don't recall what it was called, but you put your arms in it and you brought them forward and it was supposed to be good for your chest. Well, I wound up in the emergency room with my arm all numb and chest pains, feeling like I was going to take a heart attack.

Like immediately after or like? No, like hours later. Hours later. And I went to the emergency room and the doctor told me I pulled my heart muscle. And he told me that is never, ever, ever going to heal. If you pick up something heavy, you're going to feel this again. And you could basically,

it's an enzyme in your heart that shoots up sky high, unbeknownst to you. And you could drop dead of a heart attack well it scared the hell out of me i never wanted to do fitness again and then maybe five years later when i finally did go to another local gym what was that one on fisher boulevard ks fitness gold's gym or something like that maybe i went there and this time i got a trainer and he put me on the treadmill and two minutes in he took me off and he said your heart rate is through the roof well certainly wasn't going back you know what i'm saying so to me okay well that's it i'm done

i don't want to drop dead you know drop dead exercise and yeah so but you thought you've just been out of shape at that point. I rode my, well, I don't ever feel that I was out of shape because I did always attempt to work out, whether it was riding a bike, walking vigorously, carrying kids around all day long was like carrying a 50 pound weight. How fast were you running on the treadmill? I don't remember. It wasn't like crazy.

Not crazy. crazy, no. No. But, I mean, at a steady pace. But it frightened me so bad. And it's always still in the back of my mind. Now, I ride my bicycle all the time. But, you know, if I let it go for a couple months when we're buried in snow and the spring comes along, I'm like, uh-oh. Am I going to drop dead of a heart attack now with the minute I get on the bike?

But I'm also a smoker. So you've smoked since you were 16? Yeah. 16. So, I mean, as much as I want to say that probably has something to do with affecting your heart rate, there's some freak athletes out there that smoke cigarettes. Really? So, I mean mean i don't know i mean when i was doing bobsled for the olympic team and everything all the russians and germans they'd be on they'd be up there smoking cigarettes before they do the race well because it's insane well it is but i think that when you're young you don't

feel the effects of it as you do when you're older might be right on that i can't say too much on that because i haven't looked too much into the smoking realm. Yeah, I don't either and I don't want to. But at the end of the day – I try to tell you to stop so you don't get lung cancer basically. That's about the extent of it. So going back, actually that was part of it. But basically I wanted to talk about basically things that people would say to you that like stuck. So maybe that guy said something about your heart muscle.

Maybe this other guy said something about your heart rate while you were running and it just stuck. It left a lasting impression so i remember when i was in high school pat thomas my coach i really hope he listens to this it'd be awesome um he he told me and i i wonder if you'll remember this but he said when i was done practicing he said hey guys if you go home and you drink soda all of this practice is done. You did nothing today. It doesn't matter what you accomplished. If you drink the soda, it's done. And I remember being like, are you kidding me?

I ran 10 miles today. Or I did all these intervals on the track and I'm dead. And you're going to tell me that if I go home and I drink soda, none of this ever happened? So I don't know if you remember, I stopped drinking soda. No, but I'm – I was young. As you're talking about – well, we never really had soda in the house.

We had Pepsi on the house all the time. We were big iced tea drinkers. I see. Sweetened. Yeah. But at the end of the day, do you recall when you were in BMX and what did they tell you the night before a race? Eat pasta. Pasta.

All the pasta you could eat. Yeah. You needed the carbohydrates. And in track and all that stuff we all did that but yeah no it's true um so yeah i mean once he said that to me i remember thinking man like that was something i mean that was so long ago. And I still have not forgotten that. And I, I've had a couple of things that people have said to me, like throughout the times that have just stuck, like so dramatic to me. And I remember once he said that,

I remember looking at him and looking up to him. He had like, I had never seen like with a shirt off or anything, but he had like big arms. And like, I remember just like he was muscular and none of the other coaches were, everybody else was kind of like a regular body or maybe a little even chubby even hell i remember my lacrosse coach remember him he was a huge fat guy yeah and i remember being like you want me to run a lap yeah fucking run a lap i'd like to see you run anything but um it's it is nice when your coach is a badass. But I remember constantly asking him questions now. I was like, oh, if that does that, then I wonder if there's something else I can eat that I practice even better. Or I remember if there's anything else I can eat to make it even – to not eat, I mean, to make it better.

So eat to make it better than things I could not eat. And I remember just like asking him all these questions. And I even went to his house and ate dinner at his house. And like I really started getting close to him him and he was telling me all this stuff about nutrition. And so I started really, really getting into it. And then I started working out at the gym and I started going all the time. And you remember, um, Tom's river fitness next to the bike shop that I used to always go to. Yes. Yes. What was the name of the bike shop? Patty's pedal. Patty's pedal power. Oh man. Patty's Pedal Power made me go broke.

Is it still open? Yep. Really? I have to go there before I leave. Oh, my God. Okay. So Tom's Zipper Fitness. And I remember I was like 13.

I don't think I was even allowed to work out yet. But I knew the owner of the gym. The kid, his dad owned it. So we'd go in there and we'd work out. And I started like really getting into it. And that's when I met a person that looked unlike any other human I'd ever seen in my whole life. And I was like, wow, this guy is exactly what I want to look like. I cannot get over what this guy looks like. So he had veins popping out and he was muscular and he was like jumping on boxes with like 30 pound dumbbells in his hands.

And that was the guy who did the bobsled. And that's when I was like – I went over and asked him and he told me he did bobsled. And that was when I never let go of doing skeleton and doing bobsled. That's right. That was that Tom Driver kid. Yeah, and I was like, holy crap. This guy is intense. This is exactly what I want to do. So, I mean, I don't think – I think I actually forgot about it at one point, but he literally had, like, just skyrocketed my interest in being really, really fit. So I started really, really getting into it. I got another workout buddy, and I started getting older at 16.

I think by my senior year of high school, I was 180 pounds, which for someone who's 5'5", I was jacked. Right, but you were always good at sports, period and i remember just being in school and like i'd be running around the track for track practice and all the little girls would be laying up they'd be on the side sitting there just all gawking at me because i had these giant abs just like running around the track yeah everyone thinks that this is like you know some like weird fake thing that i developed on my own or i like injected into my body or something but nobody realizes I look like that since I was like 12 yeah you were always in good shape

that's true even watching tv I was doing push-ups and sit-ups and all that crap at the house and riding my bike remember when I would ride my bike so far and I get a flat tire and I'd call you on my prepaid phone that didn't flip it was a giant giant freaking walkie-talkie. No, no, it wasn't a prepaid phone. I had a prepaid. It was a beeper. Oh, I had a beeper. It was a beeper. Oh, yeah, a beeper.

Oh, man. Okay. Then it was the Nextel. Then it was the Nextel, the big freaking walkie-talkie thing. Yeah. So can you imagine what it's like right now? This is a complete side note. My kids will never understand what it's like to now side this is a complete side note my kids will never understand what it's

like to call a girl at their house get the dad on the phone and say is your daughter there that will never happen ever why because people have cell phones now they all have their own phone oh true yeah you know what i mean yeah yeah like the nervous energy that i used to have i dialing, and as soon as someone picked up it wasn't her, I'd hang it up right away. And you'd do that all night long. I used to love when the girls would come to the house. Do you want something to eat? What are you doing down there? In the basement.

Do you want to play Yahtzee? I remember that specifically. Gabrielle. Gabrielle Kirche. I remember you. Yeah, my mom was always a cock block. Roy, what are you doing down there? Those were such good times.

But yeah, I can't. You can really tell me everything. My mom knows. She knows everything. Holy shit. If there's any girl out there I've ever had sex with, my mom knows. She knows everything. Holy shit, enough to make your hair stand up. If there's any girl out there I've ever had sex with, my mom knows about it. Sorry.

Not sorry. But I still love all of them. Yeah, you do. My mom still talks to all the exes. And all the exes are probably listening to this show. So there's that. Because they're all sweet in their own way. They're all sweet in their own way.

Just because you guys didn't make it doesn't mean they're bad people. Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't. I've had several of them on the show. All righty then. We live in a crazy family. Yeah, we do. Anyway, that is crazy though that that is not a thing anymore.

You don't have to call someone's house and ask for their daughter or ask for their son or anything anymore. I remember even having to ask people, hey, we're going to go ride BMX at Skyview Park. And it was like a 30-minute bike ride away. Text them and say, I'll see you there in 30 minutes. You'd be at school. You get done with school. You say, I'll be there at such and such time. And then basically you hope they were there. You hope you'd be there. And you get there and you'd be sad if. You'd get done with school. You'd say, I'll be there at such and such time. And then basically –

You hoped they were there. You hoped you'd be there. And you'd get there and you'd be sad if they weren't there and you wouldn't even know. You didn't have the ability. You couldn't just yell out, caw, caw, caw, caw. But you know what? At the end of the day, thinking of what you're saying, the sad part is the kids today don't know what it's like to go out and ride bikes. They don't – like you kids.

Oh, video games. I mean you kids were outside for hours building snowmen, playing manhunt, riding your bikes. Think about it. The kids today, they don't even go outside. They sit in their rooms with the cell phones or the video games and all. That stuff started coming out as maybe you were – I don't remember how old you were. But still, you didn't hang in the house. You kids went out when you came home from school.

Well, you know what we didn't have when I was little? If I wanted to play a game, we had PlayStation and Xbox and all that. But it wasn't your life. No, but this is why it's getting really bad now. I don't know if you know this because you don't play games. And I never did either. Thank God. But now they have it now so it's like live.

So like you can get on and you're playing your friends from all over the place. Oh, wow. It's like the same reason you like playing your little candy crush game or whatever it is, right? Or what is it? My decorating. Whoville or something? Yoville.

Yo world. Yo world on Facebook. My mom loves that game. So I asked you today, I said, why do you play that stupid game? And then you said, you know, Sue plays it from Florida and my friends over here plays. So there's people now and they have, you know, they play a game literally with people all over the world. And maybe some of these people, they play on YouTube and then they're so good.

They're like the best in the world. So now they get to play with that person. They're like excited to play with that person. And then they pay that person to play with them. Really? So there's kids. I promise you. I see them in California driving around in Lamborghinis, literally making millions of dollars a year because they are good at video games and other people want to play with them and they pay to play with them.

Wow. And watch them play or even just put a video up and watch them beat some level and people will pay to watch that. Or so many people will watch it that YouTube pays them for ads. It's insane. That's why like the whole world of social media is just insane. I don't know. I mean there's so many things about that. But that is very sad.

They're literally – I mean there's tons and tons of kids now that are just stuck in the house. I can't stand – to me, and I'm not a prude and you know that. But there's nothing I hate worse than when I'm at you know one of your sister's houses or something and the kids are just sitting there glued to their phone pick your freaking head up and look at me talk to me they don't do that anymore and i think it's rude and ignorant i think there's a time and a place but it's it's completely different world today than years ago i think years ago it was better. It was.

Actually, I do agree on that. Growing up, look. Music was better. That's for sure. Regardless what it was, kids were kids. You didn't hear of school shootings. Kids went to school. Maybe they were bullied, but they weren't killing each other.

Well, now they can freaking buy a gun online. So that's why it's ruining everything. It's frightening. The kids cannot be kids today, which is sad. Remember dial-up internet? Yeah. I had it and you bitched all the time. Remember?

When are you going to go and get – what did you want me to get? I was young. I was young. I wanted to just pull up a porn I could jerk off and i was like this freaking is ruining my vibe right now where's mom's victoria's secret magazine when you need it but getting back to the nutrition thing now what did i always say to you even when you and nikki were last? What did I say? I've always been in great shape.

Yeah, and you have been. I had five kids. And there's reasons for that, right? I've had five kids, and I never was more than 100, 105 pounds in my entire life. Now, did I work out not on a regular basis like you do? But I feel like I did I mean we had a humongous house in Tom's River years later 4200 square foot house

up and down three flights of steps with vacuums and riding my bike at night and I used to do all the lawn work myself and we used to walk at the beach a lot and we used to do all of those things I never was more than 105 pounds. Walk in to do beanie baby shopping. Right, right.

And I was only 4'11", so I am 4'11". Yeah, so those of you guys giving me shit for being 5'5", mom's 4'11". It could have been worse. Yeah. You never know what's little people. But anyway, somebody said to me I could get a handicap plate because I'm a midget. Get the hell out of here I think you can

I don't want it But at any rate I always felt like I was in good shape Even though I didn't eat healthy At 60 years old I'm still only 112 That's the heaviest I've ever been in my life But I don't feel obese

And I feel like even if I lost Has anyone said that you are? Has i've ever been in my life but i don't feel obese and i feel like even if i lost anyone said that you are has a doctor ever said that no but i mean because they have this bmi scale i don't pay attention to it but at the end of the day maybe that's not obese i mean maybe i'm a couple pounds i don't like being at that weight but i also at 60 realize which i've done if i lost 10 pounds now i look all sunk in and old so i don't want to look like that so i'm i'm better off with those couple of pounds but like i said i never watched what i ate i ate bags and not that i'm going to say i'm proud of it because i'm embarrassed to even say it on being on the show but i mean i ate bags of candy and cookies and cake and ice cream.

And I still do. Every Oreo that they came out with for Christmas is in there. Every new candy, every new. I saw a red velvet Twinkie in there. Red velvet Twinkies. No, no, no, no. Peppermint. They're peppermint Twinkies.

Oh, but it's still a Twinkie. That's terrifying. I saw that when I opened the freezer. I was like, what? I had to put them in there because I don't want my stuff to go bad. Oh, yeah. You want to still a Twinkie. That's terrifying. I saw that when I opened the freezer. I was like, what? I had to put them in there because I don't want my stuff to go bad. Oh, yeah. You want to save that Twinkie. But I could eat the entire bag.

Now, the other night, I ate an entire pint of Ben & Jerry's. The whole pint? The whole freaking pint. I've never seen you eat that much food in my life. The whole pint. I put it in the microwave. I warm it up a little bit so it gets melty and dreamy. Oh, she's getting excited right now.

And I don't want to say what's on my mind. And then, yes, and then I eat the whole thing. I eat the whole frigging thing. Of course, I do it when nobody's around because I can't let anybody see me. Closet eater. No, but I'm not a closet eater. Bob will sit and watch me. Then he gets on me.

Well, why are you eating like that? And then I think of you and all me. Then he gets on me. Well, why are you eating like that? And then I think of you and all the things that you say and do. But I don't know. Look, God bless the people that could give it up and never look back. Well, I still think that you're at – I wouldn't say you're at a caloric deficit, but I would say what's going on is probably because you eat so little throughout the day i would almost put you in the category of intermittent faster well i've never eaten breakfast i'm not a breakfast person ever you're actually fasting without um believe it or not i'm not have you read very much about intermittent fasting no believe it or not i'm not uh um i don't even eat lunch sometimes i'll'll eat junk. I'll pick on something. Like this morning, I had

a chocolate-filled croissant. But that was all you had the whole morning? That was it. I've never been a breakfast or a lunch person. Now, I did when I wasn't feeling good. I did make hard-boiled eggs, and I ate that in the morning with a little cottage cheese and raspberries. But no, I'm not a breakfast or if Bob is home, like today, today he was home. So I made pasta with meat sauce. We had that for lunch and then he brought it to work with them for dinner tonight. So we'll eat lunch together if he's home. But I've never really been a sandwich person. I'm not crazy about

sandwiches. I'm not that crazy about bread. Never really was. If I'm in a restaurant, I like a good piece of Italian bread or something with butter, but I never really was a bread person. But there's no way your body burns less than, I don't know, 1,200, 1,500 calories a day. I mean, some days you probably burn a little bit more so you eat a whole pint of pen and jerry's i want to say offhand it's like 250 calories per serving and there's four servings in there which says it's a thousand calories i may or may not know that because i had a couple pints during thanksgiving um good so good so okay so you ate a pint you had a thousand calories and then maybe you had you know somecalorie croissant thing in the morning.

So realistically, you're still hitting technically your numbers for the day. So that's basically – there's this whole thing going on right now. It's called flexible dieting. So people eat cupcakes and stuff, and they put it into their macros. So your macros, I don't know if you know, it just means – Yeah, I have no clue. So macronutrients are basically just fat, protein, carbs. So when you look at the nutrition facts on the back of your bag of chips or whatever it is, you look at the fat, you look at the carbs,

you look at the protein, those are your macros. So if I gave you a list and I said, hey, mom, you get to eat 50 grams of fat today, 100 grams of carbs and 70 grams of protein. Every time that you ate, you would just, you know, knock off a couple of those numbers. And by the end of the day, whatever. Or even if I just said, you know, you get to eat so many calories throughout the day and then you'd have your number. And I still think what you're eating on a daily basis and maybe other days you might eat even less.

It all equals out like the end of the week to probably be the same same amount that you would need to be alive and yeah i don't know and then i drink that iced coffee that you freaked out about oh 32 ounces my mom drinks a what is it 32 ounces 32 ounce wawa mocha mint iced coffee i can't live without it it's like an addiction but you used to drink regular decaf black coffee. I used to drink that. I remember that. And tea. And I was a big tea drinker. And I never liked flavored coffees or flavored creamers or any of that.

Someone gave you one. And someone said to me one day, you've got to try this iced coffee. I don't like stuff like that. And then I tried it and I loved it. And the shit makes me sick. It literally makes me sick. I mean I literally cough and have loved it and the shit makes me sick literally makes me sick I mean I literally cough and have mucus

and everything from this shit I have no idea what the hell is in it it's sugar and it's all sorts of different kinds of sugar and I know

that it's making me sick but I gotta go to freaking World War every day and have it there's just no doubt do you know what that's called

I don't know addiction addiction so basically I mean, there is some crazy, crazy, like, similarities between drugs and sugar. So basically, you could talk to, you know, Mike. Mike Scales. He's one of my coaches at the gym in Chalk, and he's a recovering alcoholic, drugs, and stuff like that. And he's a phenomenal coach.

He's probably listening to this at some point. Mike, I love you. I like Mike. He's insane. he's a phenomenal coach he's probably listening to this at some point mike i love you but i like mike he's insane he's so nice he's so nice um and you would never even think that to be honest like ever but he was basically saying there's there's sugar killing more people than freaking alcohol and then when people get off alcohol they turn to sugar so they get depressed or they need something else to kind of fill the void or whatever. And all these guys who are going to AA are getting fat. And it's basically because it's another thing they'd be addicted to. Look at your aunt, and I'm not going to mention her name on here.

But you know who I'm talking about, the only aunt that I really bother with. Yeah. Has been a toothpick her entire life. At 75 years old, she weighed 105 pounds she is now probably 180 pounds whoa i didn't know that yes because she quit smoking and now she feels the need to eat like a savage and just can't stop and we've talked about that, her and I. But she just can't. So maybe from there we'll start with these diets that have been coming in and out of our lives throughout the beginning of time. So maybe we'll start with the cigarette diet. So there was a time in like 1925 is when it started.

They called it the cigarette diet. And it was because of a pack of cigarettes called Lucky Strikes. Well, they say there's a stimulant in there that curbs your appetite. Yes. So their campaign was actually called Reach for a Lucky instead of a Sweet. And that was the name of their campaign. So they were capitalizing on nicotine's appetite-suppressing superpowers, they called it. Jesus. So I remember my sister Rhonda, she also smokes.

She doesn't smoke anymore, does she? No. She told me the same thing. Every time she would stop smoking, she'd start gaining weight, she'd start smoking again. So have you ever really quit? No. And did your weight fluctuate? No, I never really did quit.

You know, as you you know and that's not making it right i don't smoke in the house i don't smoke in the car it's just i have anxiety and it's just a very nervous habit i don't even like the smell of it and i but i'll go out there and freeze my butt off i don't know it's look and look, and I've known so many people with addictions of all sorts, whether it's smoking, whether it's drinking. And when you have an addictive personality, 99% of the time, you give up one thing for another, whether it's whether it's shopping, whatever it may be. Now, your brother had a drinking problem. He quit drinking and he started smoking at 30 years old. So who the hell

knows? I don't know. Yeah. I think that addiction thing for some people, it's just a, it's a, it's a state of mind, but it was, there was always fad diet. There was Nutrisystem. There was, let's hit Nutrisystem real quick. So I have a little, I have a little note on Nutrisystem. It's around here somewhere. So Nutrisystem is basically what they say is it's customized for you. Right. The only drawback is that they do cost a little bit of money. So Nutrisystem is basically what they say is it's customized for you. Right. The only drawback is that they do cost a little bit of money. So after my research on Nutrisystem, I basically compared Nutrisystem to any food prep service out there. Yeah.

Nutrisystem is just food prep. So people think that Nutrisystem is some special food prep and maybe your gym has a food prep service. It's a paleo food prep service, a zone food prep and maybe your gym has a food prep service it's a paleo food prep service his own food prep service it's still food prep and it's still considered potentially for what you need it's probably a caloric restrictive diet so if you're getting this meal it's probably significantly smaller than what you're used to getting and if it's not significantly smaller it probably has higher protein and less carbohydrates or less fat than we're used to consuming. What most people – look, there was always something as far back as I remember, whether it was Dexatrim, whether it was Nutrisystem, whether it was Jenny Craig. Weight Watchers was probably one of the best ones out there.

So they're actually still doing good. Because they eat regular food. But do you know why they do good? Because it's regular food. But it's caloric restriction as well but they give you numbers yeah they do but at least you're eating regular food with jenny craig nutrition system i can't think of them all but basically what mediterranean diet yes basically what they're teaching you to do is you're eating their food so they're teaching you portion control is you're eating their food. So they're teaching you portion control. So when you know, you can't live the rest of your life eating their food and it's very

expensive. So at some point you've got to learn how to eat. So when these people lose all the weight, what happens to them? Six months, a year later. Yeah, because they're not eating that food anymore. So really it's about sensible dieting. Now myself, all right, I don't eat healthy and I never did and probably never will. But at the end of the day, if I feel myself gaining a couple of pounds, I will cut back.

I will. But I know enough to do that because i always but i always wanted to look half human you know what i mean i didn't want to be sensible dieting that is that's my sensible diet we could we could sell that name that is good but i told you and i'm not going to tell all these people but i take care of elderly people. And we talked about this. No, no. We should talk about it.

And I was telling Ryan tonight that I found it very interesting. Did your little study. That at one point, I worked for seven or eight people that were all in their 90s. I right now take care of a man who's going to be 100. And I could never understand, and I didn't want to ask any questions, but I could never understand what made them live that long. You know, like what was their secret to make them live that long? And so one day, and again, there was seven or eight of them of all different shapes and sizes. Do you know anything about the rest of their history?

Like does everyone else in their family live long? That didn't ask okay that i didn't wonder about that but um i i wondered one day like there was the one woman that i worked for was extremely overweight her whole life i think basically yes but she was active. She wasn't at this point. Define active. You know, she worked with a church group. She painted her house. She had a big Victorian place. And she used to love painting and stenciling and, like, all that stuff.

But she's not walking and burning calories. Well, not now. No, no. Even then. Painting is not burning calories. No, but I'm saying she was active in her church and vacationing and doing things. It wasn't like she just sat and did nothing. She could have went on vacation to a beach and sat and did nothing.

Well, maybe. But at the end of the day, she had that I was taking care of was 92 and 98. The wife recently passed away due to cancer. But the long story short was one day I'm looking at all of these people. And the one woman, when I used to go to her house, quarter to eight in the morning, she'd say to me, Kim, have a Hershey bar with me. And I looked at her and I said, Muriel, I love my junk, but I ain't eating a freaking Hershey bar quarter to seven in the morning.

That I just can't bring myself to do. Well, I got Yoohoo and I got fudge bars. So it piqued my interest. And so then I started asking them Hey did you guys ever smoke Did you guys ever drink Did you always eat like this Candy bars at 7 o'clock in the morning

And she would buy like At BJ's the big Box full of Danish's And she would freeze them In the freezer And every morning And every morning she would take Two in the freezer. And every morning... Like your Twinkies.

Yeah. And every morning she would take two out for her and her husband. And that's what they'd have for breakfast. And so I started thinking to myself, all these people are in their 90s. What was the secret? And as I talked to them, almost every one of them was a smoker.

Several were big drinkers. They all ate like shit. Did Ed smoke? Ed smoked for 50 years. N was a heavy drinker. Whiskey, and he told me, I smoked pipes, cigars, you name it. And he's 99 years old.

The difference, the one thing that each and every one of them had in common, no stress, none at all. And I found that amazing. I found that amazing that there wasn't an ounce of stress in their lives. They did not let anything bother them. They weren't afraid of being alone. They weren't afraid of dying per se. They weren't. Are they all religious? No, no. One, one out of the whole bunch was religious.

And that was the heavyset woman. She, you know, did a lot of work for the Catholic church. They would bring her over. I just always wonder if it's interesting when someone's not scared of dying. If they're religious, you're like, oh, okay, I get it. And then if they're not, that's interesting. No, but I just found that interesting. And they just didn't have any stress in their lives. They didn't have kids calling them and tormenting them. None of them had kids? No, they did.

Some didn't, but most of them did. But the sad thing is a mother could take care of 12 kids, but 12 kids can't take care of one mother. And it's very sad to see because these people are all alone on holidays for the most part. There was one woman that her daughter was very, very good to. Every two weeks she came down. But for the most part, they were alone. And I feed them.

I go out of my way and make dinner sometimes and bring them to them. I have them here on the holiday. I had them here for Thanksgiving. I feel sorry for them. there, it's going to come in and take you down. So like I don't know if anybody – I mean obviously nobody out there knows, but my grandparents are both dead, which are – well, your mom and then your stepdad. So grandpa had cancer for how long? Well, a long time, but – Forever. High stress and worked his butt off. But once grandma died though – That was it.

You know that like the stress came in, it lowered his immune system, and he died a month later. So that story is not a rare story. No, it's not. It's very common. That happens all the time. So there's a really good study right there for you on stress. I mean, genetics and stuff are going to say this is going to happen, that's going to happen. Well, we're all very high-strung people, all of us.

We're all very – I threatened to kill my judge a couple years ago. People will remember that. Well, I mean I go off the deep end on people all the time. It's just who we are. Yeah. Sorry. There you go, Dave Castro.

My mom just told you why I was freaking out. I don't even bring him up. Ruin my frigging night. I had Andrea on the show recently, and we talked about them for a minute. That's cool. So let's just say that you are making some food, right? I do make food. Yeah, you make food all the time um so i wanted to go

through the fridge and kind of you know maybe poke at you a little bit you poke at me every freaking time you're here so for those of you out there right now like you're you know your mom is trying to get healthier or maybe maybe you tell her all the things I tell my mom and they don't listen, right? So you say, stop eating this, stop eating that and one thing leads to another and you come home from New York City and you come to your mom's house in New Jersey and all of a sudden you open the fridge and all the same stuff is in there. What did I tell you last night? I don't know. I have nothing in this freaking house for you to eat i don't want to hear no shit you're bored there's nothing to eat so i think what the

the big thing is it's it's just like when you were younger and you didn't know anything about nutrition right it's the same thing with food so like i never took a class when i was in elementary school or even high school where i mean mean we had gym class, right? And it was a joke. I think gym class is getting better now. I have some gym teachers in my gym that work out at my gym. I have gym teachers who follow my online program and give some of the stuff to their kids. But nobody did that back then.

No, nobody did that back then. But because it never happened back then, you lack the knowledge, right? Well, I mean what did you get? I try to tell you, but I'm like – it's like when you have a boyfriend and you tell him to do all these things and he's not going to listen. Or he tells you to do all these things and you're not going to listen. It's the relationship vibe. So I could tell you – I could wind up being fucking Albert Einstein and tell you that E equals MC squared all day and you'd be like, I don't give a shit what it equals, right? And everybody else could praise me all around the world well but this is what you you know what you

do for a living too you know what i mean and it means everything to you which i get but you still don't listen to me no but let's just go over some things i don't even know if you know this so i'm just going to go through a couple things pregogo. So we have a thing of Prego spaghetti sauce. When you think of Prego spaghetti sauce, on the label it says Italian sauce, tomato, basil, garlic. It has a nice fresh tomato on there, nice fresh looking thing of garlic. It looks very, very healthy. It looks amazing. So you would never think that the second ingredient in Prego is actually modified cornstarch. Could you imagine that? That's a real thing.

I just took a picture of this with my phone in the cabinet. So the first ingredient is tomato puree, which is great. And then the second ingredient is tomato puree, which is great. And then the second ingredient is cornstarch. Third ingredient is sugar. And then we also have hydrolyzed soy protein and soybean oil. That's in the tomato sauce. We have nothing to say right now. I don't know what the point is.

Because there's better options, right? There's better options of the stuff. But I don't even know if your eyes, even with glasses, could even read if it mattered anyway. So maybe I could just write that. I don't look at the label, right? I know. I could care less what the hell it is. I really don't, though. I know.

I know. I know. And I don't even look at the label to see if it looks pretty. I buy what's on sale. Yeah. That's a problem. Unless it's a real bad one. Yeah.

Yeah. But that is a problem. And I want basil. You know. Yeah. Well, getting fruits and vegetables is different. No, no. I mean basil in my sauce.

You know, like if you notice that it's got basil and garlic or something, right? On the label, all we have is garlic. Oh, okay. I got the wrong one. There is basil on it on the front, but it's not actually in it. Oh, all right. So this is a problem for me because I don't want you to get duped on some of these things. So basically a lot of these companies, let's just say you gave me $100 and I'm a stockbroker,

and I say, hey, we're going to put it in this stock. It's going to be worth 120 bucks next year, 20%. But it's the same thing with food. Every time you eat food, it is an investment in your body to an extent. And every 10 years, maybe even every five, I don't know, should we say five? Every couple of years, they this all these things in food that are they wind up being on tv as a commercial have you ever eaten this if so give us a call you may have a case yes i see that more all the time not now all the time right it's freaking terrifying so the best thing you can do is just get yourself locked and loaded with knowledge so that every

time you look at something you're not getting duped i mean you wouldn't want to buy let's say i you know i sold you a honda civic but on the outside i put mercedes emblems on it you're gonna be like i'm about to get a mercedes for 10 grand right you're getting a piece of shit honda civic well actually honda's a good car but and it would last a long time. But it looks like crap inside, right? It's totally different. So maybe these things are going to make your body look like crap inside, right? So our freaking Prego sauce is actually nothing other than cornstarch and sugar. So that's why it makes your spaghetti taste ridiculous or meatball.

Well, plus I doctor it up. Or sausage or whatever. But mainly, a lot of the spices and stuff you're putting on are actually making all the difference. You don't even realize it. So there's so many things that you can do with that that just make a world of a difference. So that's just one thing on there. The next thing that is a big one for me, and it's something that literally just changed this year. So of all time, Heinz was like the only real ketchup brand really.

Yeah. Right? They're the only ones really selling ketchup. And when I was a kid, I couldn't imagine eating anything besides Heinz. It was the first thing I thought of. It was on every table. I remember when they came out with green Heinz ketchup. Do you remember that?

Yeah. That was really strange. But they still, everywhere you go, there's Heinz ketchup, Goulden's mustard, and pretty much Hellman's mayonnaise. Yeah, so we're going to hit those too. So basically, Heinz ketchup is a mixture of tomato concentrate,

high fructose corn syrup, and then syrup. Just regular, straight up syrup. I would never think that. I know, it's insane so do you know how that works on the on the ingredients like you know what the difference is between the first ingredient and the last one no so the first ingredient is what makes up the majority of the product that is the majority of the product so let's say we're making pancakes

right and it calls for flour for the first ingredient. That's like pretty much what most of the pancake is. And then you start putting in these little things like an egg or whatever, right? It's a very small amount of the pancake. So the good thing that we have going on for Heinz is that the first ingredient is tomato concentrate. The bad news is right away, right after that, is high-fructose corn syrup and then corn syrup and then different types of different modified syrups. Why do they even put that in spaghetti sauce? Because it makes it sweet. Oh.

So now we just went from a regular coffee to mom's giant 32-ounce latte. Right? And you're like, you know what? I love the old coffee. But now I've had this and fuck the old coffee. Well, it's true. Once you go black, you don't go back. So, hopefully you didn't

go black. I don't want to know. Don't tell me. But I love black people. I love everybody. I had a black girlfriend in college. Did I tell you her name? Her name was Kaya. She was a pretty one. If you guys hear a little phone ringing in the background, it's just the house phone.

So the next thing, this one is very disturbing. Because Hellman's mayonnaise, the first ingredient. This is not going down the list. The first ingredient is soybean oil. That's the first ingredient. So basically Hellman's mayonnaise is nothing other than soybean oil. You're taking an oil and mixing it with your tuna fish. What else do you use mayonnaise for?

Tuna fish. I mean, Bob will eat it on a sandwich. I don't eat sandwiches. So for the first time in history, there is this product called Primal Kitchen. And what they're doing right now is they have ketchup now that has no natural sweeteners in

it i have it no natural not no natural no artificial sweeteners sorry it's literally just ketchup and like salt uh i mean when i say ketchup i mean it's like tomato puree and he also has these mayonaises now that are made up of avocado oil instead of soybean oil so avocado oil has a higher heat tolerance so when it gets heated it doesn't change into something like very bad and unhealthy for you also you can digest avocado oil much much better than like soybean oil doesn't actually get digested it's a it's it's it's awful um but so they made these two products, and recently – he's only been on the market for a couple of years. He sold for hundreds of millions of dollars just recently to Heinz.

Heinz actually bought it. So Heinz is actually trying to make a move now and actually get into the healthy way of things, which is – Well, because there's a lot of people out there now that are – Getting health conscious. Right, right. More now than ever. My first trip to California blew me away because you couldn't find a bad restaurant. You can't find a good one here.

Yeah, it's insane. And everyone's way of life. I mean, you know me. I'm up at the crack of dawn. At 4.30 in the morning, the house I rent by the beach there, people were jogging, running, skateboarding, biking. At 4.30? At 4.30 in the morning.

You don't see that. So it's a complete, complete, complete different way of life than here. Yeah. But you also see older people there. Yes. At 4.30 in the morning, running, skateboarding, jogging, surfing, which here you don't see. When I come by you, I find it so intimidating that I got to run to the plastic surgeon and get Botox and all this shit because I feel like I don't look right. You know, we're here.

You're just normal. It's just – but I don't know. What I don't understand though is this. Your cousin Megan. understand though is is this your cousin megan now her family her mom and for the record my cousin my niece megan was my brother's daughter and her mother grew up on a farm in canada they and Canada, they sold all their crops to Heinz and all these different places. And one day she came and I had something that was organic. And she's a very intelligent girl. You know that.

And she said to me, Aunt Kim, why are you, don't ever buy anything organic. Why are you buying this? And I said, oh, i just thought it was better uncle you know uncle ryan cousin ryan thinks that the organic is good and she said let me tell you something my grandfather travels the world teaching farming to people as far as russia And she said there is no such thing as organic because the farms are so huge that that's their livelihood. They have to put insecticide down if there's bugs or whatever is getting into their crops. They have to take care of it. They want to say it's organic the only organic according to her and she's a very

intelligent girl is your home garden i actually i do agree on that because she said you can't you know the rest of it you you just you just can't and like she said chickens her brother, Alec, he worked on a chicken farm. And they're just mashed. Oh, it's embarrassing. Mashed in. And then lay people. Cage-free actually means. They run around loose.

No, it actually doesn't mean that. It doesn't mean that they're stuck in a cage. So sometimes they have them so caged that they are not allowed to move, and they're stuck in a cage. Yeah, it's disgusting. But then cage-free, they're still elbow to elbow, but they're not in the cage. But you didn't know of any of this. And even free range is the same. They could still be – That's why – for me, I buy whatever eggs are on sale.

Look, I did take your advice there for a little bit because it did sound gross. And I don't really care for eggs, truthfully. I'm not a big egg person. But at the end of the day, I – now this may sound silly to you, but I watch a lot of the news. Every freaking recall comes out of Whole Foods. Trader Joe's. It's all salads. It's this, it's that.

When did you ever hear of a candy bar being recalled? Piece of cake. Ice cream. Think about that. No, that's a fair point. Last week, well, two weeks ago

during Thanksgiving. Look, and I'm not promoting shit. I'm not promoting people to go out and eat candy, cookies, and cake. Of course. But my point is the week of Thanksgiving, I was absolutely horrified because I had bought a fresh turkey. I was going to make a great big salad.

I bought potatoes and, you know, I didn't buy Duncan Hines cake mix, but I, you know, made an apple pie. But it came across the TV. Do not eat any romaine lettuce. Even if you had bagged lettuce in your house that was like – I can't think of what the heck I buy. It's a bag of lettuce, but it's like all different kinds of lettuces. Like a spring mix. Spring mix. That's exactly it.

Even if you had that, throw it away. Throw it away. That's how bad the romaine lettuce thing was. Did it matter if it was organic or not? Didn't matter. It didn't matter. Turkey, all organic, all, you know, whatever it was. What did I tell you it was?

I'm losing my mind. Spring mix? No, the. Romaine? Romaine. Okay. No matter what brand, no matter where you bought it, no matter what kind of salad mix you had with it, chuck it. Don't eat it.

It was not on any shelves. Don't eat Duncan Hines cake mix. Don't eat chicken and turkey. And there was a big beef recall. Don't eat turkey during Thanksgiving? During Thanksgiving. And then they narrowed it down before it got to Thanksgiving that it was Jenny O. Brand of turkey that was no good, which I didn't have. That's the packaged stuff.

And it took until way after Thanksgiving before they found out where the romaine was coming from that was bad northern California so there you go and and someone had made a joke and they said all this healthy stuff every time you turn around there's a recall on it you go to stop and shop and shop right how often do you hear of something out of there you always hear of Trader Joe's and Whole Foods look is it going to change what people do? No, because people are going to do what they do regardless. Something may stick in your mind. Look, there's things I love that I could only get from Whole Foods,

and I've found those things because of you, like the burrata cheese. I can't really get that anywhere. We lucked out today. There's a chocolate milk that I love that comes from a special farm that you can only get at Whole Foods. So there's certain things. Is it a glass bottle? Yes. Yeah, that one's good.

So there's certain things. I just think it's always going to make you think. I think sensible eating. I think, yeah, stay away from the junk. I mean, that's a given. It's like alcohol or anything else. But I think at the end of the day, sensible eating for me. For you, you're in a whole different field.

You want to look good. That's your thing. That's what you enjoy doing. I can no longer – no more offer you a cigarette or a glass of beer. So I can't convince you to change your ways. You know what I'm saying yeah no i get it so there's just like small things like the mayonnaise you know i you're i mean it's sad for me to even say that like when you actually use hellman's mayonnaise you're not even it's getting

anything it's not even mayonnaise right um even like salad dressings now you have the newman's own in there and it looks freaking awesome. The guy is very handsome on the front. He looks kind of like George Clooney. And he's got all these fruits and vegetables and stuff on there, and the first ingredient is canola oil and vegetable oil, which is really terrifying because I had a whole podcast on just oils. I don't know if you ever listened to it or not, but basically – Yes, I did. Your brain is built up mainly of fats so if you're eating

low quality fats you're actually you know decreasing your brain's ability to have a higher iq which is crazy crazy stuff i mean i don't know i wouldn't think of it yeah yeah your study with all these people maybe they lived a longer life but what was the quality of their life right there's a there is a big difference there and most of them lived a good life seriously for a long time yeah probably and i do think that way back in the day like during that earlier time um they were at least getting better they were definitely getting better meat better oh yeah better dairy better like yeah all those things were top-notch maybe there was you know actually you know what even cookies and stuff i bet was even better back then because

there wasn't a lot of brands out yet competing and basically what's happening now with all these brands is they need to beat the other brand so they try to go cheaper so to get cheaper you have to use cheaper ingredients and then also another way that you can beat people is to stay on the shelf longer. So if you can stay on the shelf longer than the other person and eventually sell, you're going to make more money than them too. So now you have all these preservatives that are coming into the food. That's why the ingredient list now is like a paragraph instead of like three things. Ed, the 99-year-old that I work for, had said something to me. Bob and I were actually talking about it the other night.

I was asking him because every day... Bob's my stepdad, by the way. Every day when I go there, he'll say, well, he's got the news on. And he's like, oh my God, look at this world. Look at this world. And I'll say to him, Ed, you must have seen a lot in a hundred years.

I mean, think about it. How many people get to live to a hundred? That's crazy, yeah. And he said to me, you must have seen a lot in 100 years. I mean, think about it. How many people get to live to 100? That's crazy, yeah. And he said to me, you have no idea. And I said, well, what was it like back then? Like, was the roads crowded, a lot of traffic? And it was so strange because he said, no. He said, hardly anybody had cars.

Everybody walked to the store. The guy came around in the truck selling bananas and meat and fruits and vegetables. In a truck. In a truck? In a truck. So that guy probably straight from his farm. Exactly. Exactly. And he said, you know, you walk to the local store.

And I remember this from my grandmother when I was a young girl. I was probably maybe six. And we would go to the butcher. We'd walk there. Grandma didn't drive. We walked. And anybody that's my age will remember this. And you walked into the butcher shop and the meat was hanging there. They cut it right down in there. And I said to Bob, think of, so listening to Ed and hearing him saying there wasn't a lot of cars on the road, there wasn't a lot of people. We are in such an overpopulated world now. And everybody's competing to be better at whatever the hell it is, whether it's in the food chain,

the cars, regardless what it is. Technically, when I was 17 years old, I went and bought a Toyota Corolla off the showroom floor it was 4500 loaded try buying that car today you get it for 40 000 yes so the world's just evolving and everything is changing i remember just but it's wild thinking that a hundred thousand dollars a year it was going to be like i was going to be killing it like do you yeah being like if i ever make that and in some places it still is a lot of money but now like in california it's like nothing poverty nothing nothing almost i mean even you remember being a kid when we had the milkman do you remember that oh i do actually and the milkman would come to the house and then what happened and the milkman started selling cakes

and pies do you remember that you know it we still got the the bottle milk yeah yeah yeah but um how often how often do you ever yeah you ever see that and you did have people way back when that would come to your house and sell food to you sell freezer plans and this is actually making me really want to start buying my food online right now even though i knew all this like talking to you about it, and actually remembering now that like how it actually used to be. So there is, there's a couple of farms right now that you can go online and it's like, it's literally just one man and his farm in wherever.

And he just sells the meat that's off his farm and it's all like legit. It's a little bit more expensive, but it would make you feel like you're in those times. Well, look, venison. Now, you know your stepfather. Oh, yeah. My husband, Bob. That's the best thing we can get. You talk to him tomorrow.

How many deer he's killed. My husband, by the way, is a big hunter and big fisherman. And how many deer he got that were loaded with tumors. Loaded with them. Oh, I actually don't remember him saying. He has never he got that were loaded with tumors. Loaded with them. Oh, I actually don't remember him saying that. He has never told me that. Oh, yeah. Ask him.

Crazy eyeballs. Or he would look like a... So what do you think that's from? Like drinking bad water? No. It's from all... Because I asked him that. And it's from all the chemicals people use in their lawn.

Oh, in the grass. And the deer come along. People are obsessed with their lawns now. Years ago, people kept a nice lawn, but who cared if you had a weed? No, people are obsessed. Look at what happened this year. They're recalling. And Bob actually met somebody who got a blood cancer from Roundup.

People use that every day of the week to kill weeds in their yard. I use it. Get it all over me. Who would have ever thought? He yelled at me. He said, I don't want you using it no more unless you put some kind of suit on and gloves. But you got the animals coming in. You know, we live out in the woods.

The deer come in in herds at night. And all throughout here. We're not in the city. And they in the woods. The deer come in in herds at night. And all throughout here, we're not in the city. And they eat the grass. They're eating poison. That is insane to think about. I do remember a friend of mine who worked as a butcher at Whole Foods. So one of the things that I always like to eat is lamb.

Because lamb is always grass-fed. It can't live on grains and all this stuff that they feed to cows i think i know what you're gonna say so for those of you out there who eat cows or yeah actually yeah if for those of you out there who eat cow meat or you know regular beef basically the whole like you know um like this whole thing around grass-fed beef and like why is grass-fed important and this and that is basically a cow cannot live on grass forever and in fact they actually can't live on grains for more than six months and i don't even know if you knew this or not but basically the last six months of their life they put them on grain they get freaking jacked but it's because they're allergic to grains so they're getting bigger because they're getting more calories but they're also getting inflamed

so you're getting all these like omega-6 fats instead of omega-3s which decrease inflammation and you're getting a very sick cow basically and you are and it dies so then grass-fed grass finished has to say grass finished um if it says grass-fed, grass-finished. It has to say grass-finished. If it says grass-fed, it still doesn't mean that it was grass-finished. Technically, everything is grass-fed until the last six months of its life. Once it gets to grass-finished, now it doesn't have any of that, you know, any of the grain swelling and all of that stuff in it. But you can still be getting these at the end of the day you just don't know sorry um the lamb can't live on grains and so your people are always like

lamb is the best this it's that blah blah blah they're in new zealand or australia or whatever and they're just like sitting back living the dream but my friend who is the butcher at whole foods he says that a lot of them have tumors and they're cutting off these tumors left and right and left and right and left and right. And I was like, I wonder why. And he's like, I don't know why either. And then I actually didn't think about it until just now because you said that with the deer. Yeah. So that makes sense.

And they also say grass-fed is terrifying. And did you know that even lamb, they're so mean to them. Look it up. Baby lambs are kept in a cage that they can't even move because they want the – Oh, is it veal? I didn't know if it was veal. A baby lamb is a veal. Yeah, but I mean it's sad.

Bob and I are big Amish people. Love going out to the Amish country. I absolutely love it. These people live – You're not a big Amish person. You're big into Amish country. I absolutely love it. These people live... You're not a big Amish person. You're big into Amish people. Right. But I mean, I love the Amish people.

I truly do. And I love what they stand for, their whole way of life. And they eat off the land. They eat what they grow. They eat their animals. All of that. And Bob and I were driving around.

How long do they live for? No different. No different. They die of that. And Bob and I were driving around. How long do they live for? No different. No different. They die of cancer. They die of all, if anything, more of them wind up in severe accidents because of the buggies or they get hurt on the farm

because they're like primitive. They don't have any modern equipment or anything like that. Anyway, we're driving along all these gorgeous, gorgeous farms. And here's four cows eating wood. Literally. Chewing up a box. Then we, I love animals.

So there was these baby goats at the next farm. And I said to Bob, stop. I want to take a picture of the next farm. And I said to Bob, stop, I want to take a picture of the baby goats. And I tried talking him into a goat, but wasn't going to happen. And here are these cows were eaten alive by flies. I mean, big sores on their legs um pigs literally laying in mud knee deep so you don't you just don't you don't know you just don't know well pigs are the worst one and in fact there's actually a diet called the bacon diet that basically people are only eating bacon i actually did it myself when i lived in la um when i was training really for CrossFit, and I remember just people just being like, if you eat a lot of bacon, you know, it's got a lot of fat in it.

It's got a lot of protein in it. Yeah. And, you know, you're going to wind up looking good. And I remember eating a ton of bacon, and I looked great. I remember just being like. Everybody's got their thing, Ryan, at the end of the day. But pork is insane with like – there's literally – if a pig dies in the little ring of other pigs, all the other pigs eat them. Oh, wow.

And my friend Eric Schaefer, who I went to school with in Hawaii, do you remember him? He lived in Arkansas and had a pig farm. And he said when one pig would be taking a shit, the other one would be right behind it eating it. He said they're complete and utter savages. Disgusting. Disgusting animals. So, I mean, you're talking about omega-6, omega-3 fats from cows. And the stuff you're getting from a pig is—

At the end of the day, you made it through. And that's what I'm saying. All of us make it through. But you just don't know now bob goes bear hunting up in canada there was a lot of asian people that wanted these bears they wanted the gallbladders and stuff oh yeah that's organs yeah bob said you wouldn't want to eat bear if your life depended on it. You cut them. They're loaded with worms. Ask them. Loaded with worms.

Where does that come from? Who the hell knows? But at the end of the day, you just don't know. You know what? Everything is a roll of the dice if you ask me. I remember stopping in an Amish farm and it said they had raw milk. And I said to the Amish girl, and I was really glad for her honesty, raw milk and homemade root beer. Now I'm not a soda drinker.

Never been a soda drinker in my life. But I said, man, I love root beer. You know what I mean? Like the real root beer. And we stopped and Bob got the root beer, by the way, it was gross. And it didn't even taste like soda it tastes like syrup and i wanted to try the milk and she said to me i would never sell that to you and i said really and she said no we're used to it we grew up on it if i sold it to you you would get sick i was shocked yeah there is like different antibodies and stuff that are In raw milk

I drink raw milk All the time though But I That was great Thank God for her honesty Because imagine I don't want to be sick Yeah not a lot of people

Are going to be honest With you for sure No People go to Different countries They drink the water They get sick I don't know

It's the luck of the draw Yeah Mexico Yeah Paige Hathaway Was telling me She drank The water in Tulum

which is like by Cancun deathly sick yeah super super sick yeah and she went out there because they gave her

a free room in like one of the nicest hotels there yeah five star this that blah blah blah super sick well the rules

and regulations out of our country are very different you know like they say don't ever eat any fish. Well, you know, for the most part, nobody really buys frozen fish, but there are people that do. And they say if it says even Vietnam on it,

don't ever buy it. Vietnam. Don't ever buy it. Because they say that there's no say that there's really no regulations. Nobody cares. And I got a story for you about that when we're off the air. About Vietnam? Yeah.

Is it an ex-girlfriend story? No, no. It's not an ex-girlfriend story. No, it's just I was talking to my nail girl. It was very interesting. It was very interesting. My mom's nail girl is Vietnamese. And it's very interesting what she had to say to me, though.

I want to tell you that later. Okay, okay, okay. It's so sad for that. You know I love Asians. My mom wants me to have an Asian girlfriend. So if you're a very attractive Asian out there and you want to DM me, it's Ryan Fish, R-Y-A-N-F-I-S-C-H. You guys know who it is. I would love Asian grandchildren.

It just keeps going. it's a real thing um i thought i used to love asian girls in college and my mom liked them more than me i tried to learn japanese i did i remember that yeah yeah there's some such cuties um great values they have great values i do um we had another thing in the fridge here. I don't know if you know this one. I didn't talk to you about this before the show at all. But this pisses me off.

So we have Log Cabin Original Syrup. Log Cabin Original Syrup. My favorite. Yeah? It's the only one I'll eat. Aunt Jemima, all those things, right? But we have Log Cabin. Here's what we have.

And it says, in big letters, no high fructose corn syrup. Now you feel real warm and fuzzy inside. You feel like, okay, I'm doing a good thing here. It's actually written so big that even my 60-year-old mom can read it. Get my bifocals, honey. The first ingredient, because you think you're getting maple syrup, correct? That's what you would think. The first ingredient is corn syrup, then water, then sugar, and then salt and natural artificial flavoring.

Maple syrup is not even in this fucking thing. Really? Period. I actually personally didn't know that until like a year ago. Wow. So I was excited to tell you that on the show. Huh. So there's not any maple syrup at all in this.

This is literally a man-made sweetener. Oh, wow. Completely, completely not composed of maple syrup at all. What's a real syrup then? You have to get like a maple syrup. You'll just look on a label. It'll just say like maple syrup. Or sometimes it'll say maple syrup like grade A, grade B.

And basically that's just the color of it and how thick it is. It's almost like if you were to get a beer that was like – I don't know. I don't drink beer. But I think there's – they have like different drafts or whatever. I don't know. Some of them have more hops in it or it's darker or something. I don't know. Sorry, guys.

I don't drink. I have it once in a while, Christmas parties. I don't drink um every once in a while christmas parties um i don't drink so uh yeah so this corn syrup thing is getting very familiar right it keeps popping up in everything so corn corn and wheat are our country's leading um like financial like i'm saying this all wrong this is awful i feel like an idiot. But it's basically it makes more money than anything else on earth is wheat and corn.

So the farmers are getting and gasoline. That's the reason we should all be driving freaking Teslas right now like electric cars but we just keep doing it

because government is like you know we need Yeah but they're dangerous. I can't. Let's not get into that. But I mean would you really want to get in a freaking car that nobody's driving?

Oh, but you can drive it, though. You know what I mean? Like, you don't have to put on the driverless setting. I don't know. Actually, I don't think the setting's allowed to be on right now. I'm horrified of my own driving, let alone nobody. Everyone's horrified of your driving. Don't worry.

One day I was driving with Steven in the car And we were talking I made a right turn And I was on the wrong side of the road And he's like Ma what are you thinking about What the fuck are you talking about You're gonna kill us So they were pulling the 7-11

It's called Wawa but you guys probably know it It's similar This guy, but you guys probably know it as 7-Eleven. It's similar. This guy's like 100 yards away, and she slams on the brakes. What is this guy doing? I'm like, she's pulling into a parking space. This guy is pulling out of a parking space. Literally nothing was happening at all. She can't see anything.

No wonder why she got to log cabin. Frickin' syrup that's not made of any corn syrup so anyway these things wheat and corn they um because they're such a huge agricultural lucrative business um they're basically they're in everything so they melt the corn down and they turn it into different things it's a sweetener now and then basically that whatever's left over it's like the worst of the worst and then it gets turned into corn syrup, which makes everything taste sweet, and everybody's going crazy, and this and that. It's almost like when you're in a grocery store.

Did you know the fresh salmon, I didn't know this until my friend worked at Whole Foods. So the fresh salmon, once it's no longer able to be sold in the glass case as fresh salmon, it gets moved to like a salmon sandwich or like a salmon salad. It gets put into those things. And then once it's no longer able to be in that, it gets moved to the soup. They cook it even more and put it in the soup.

So by the time it gets to the soup, it's the worst salmon that they have in the store. Did you know that? Well, did you know that when you buy a steak and it's really tough, it's because it was an old cow? Really? Are you sure on that one?

Yeah. That's pretty interesting. Or it could have been stressed out. Could be. Nervous wreck. Yeah. I mean, you get shot in the face. It's not the greatest thing that's ever happened to you.

No. So sad to be a cow. So sad to be a cow. So sad to be anything. The last thing we have in the fridge that I wanted to talk about was the Welch's grape jelly. But you know what? Right. For us, and when I say us, I think I speak for – These are easy to get better ones though. Maybe not.

These are better. These are easy. Right. But maybe I'm wrong. America's number one jelly. I think the average person that goes food shopping doesn't look at any of that. I know. That's the point of this show.

That's the point of this show. Oh, it is? Oh, I didn't know that. No, it's not the point. It's not the point of the whole show, but it's the point for me to explain to people a couple of things that they can help out their parents with. That they should look out for. So maybe you don't care right now, but I just want to explain it to you because it's interesting.

No, no. It is interesting. But my point is, you know what? If you grew up with these things, that's what you're automatically going to get. So that's what I'm here for. Right. I'm here to tell you how to change those things. I get it. And there's people probably in the middle of America right now that everything I've said so far, they're like, oh, my God.

And they look at it and they're like, wow. Yeah, because I would have never thought any of that stuff. Exactly. So we have some story time between you and I. We talk about how you want me to marry an Asian girl and we have bad driving stories and different reasons why kids shouldn't be playing video games and stuff like that. This is a great show.

This is the best show I've ever done in my life. Oh, it is? Yeah, it's great. So people are learning all sorts of stuff. But they're also learning that Welch's Concord Grape Jelly is actually corn syrup and high fructose corn syrup. Oh, wow. And they're the best. But they do have grapes in it.

Grapes are on the label. And it's the first ingredient. So good for them. But the second ingredient is corn syrup and then high fructose corn syrup. So now this is a recurring theme. We see it in everything. And the reason that it's so important, like why am I keep bringing up the sugar thing and the corn syrup thing?

It, and I've already said it, but I'm going to reiterate. It's basically the reason, it's the same reason you can't stop drinking the coffee. So the world is giving us addictive substances and it's bringing us down, and the only reason it's bringing us down is because someone's making money on it. It's the reason casinos exist, and people are losing their houses. I mean, one of my Asian ex-girlfriend's parents lost the house from gambling, right? These are things that, like, I mean, I'm not a super religious person, but in religion, it's not to say that I won't be ever in the future. Well, for the record, you did go to Catholic school.

I did go to Catholic school, guys. I curse now. But so – We all do. It's – they say that you shouldn't be partaking in any addictive behavior at all. And if there is anything that I think that was badass from religion, that is one thing that I think is very, very appropriate for us. So my last ex-girlfriend was Mormon. Shouldn't drink coffee.

I thought it was weird. I can't wait to drink my coffee every day. Probably not a bad thing. Everybody has their thing. I can't wait to drink my coffee every day. Probably not a bad thing. Everybody has their thing, I think. Yeah, but I think it's bad when you have to have it. Right. What happens when I go to Wawa tomorrow and I blow up your freaking latte machine and all you get is black coffee? How are you going to feel for a couple of days?

It's nuts. Well, when we had the Sandy storm. Honestly, how are you going to feel for a few days? I'd lose it. You don't even want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about it because I'll lose it because what happened was when we had the Sandy Storm and all the power and everything was out and everything was destroyed, I was losing my mind. I called Bob at work and said, when you get off at midnight, I don't give a shit. Wait a – you got to go to freaking Hong Kong.

You come home with a 44-ounce iced coffee. Not one, but two because I've got to get through. And he did. Where did he get it from? Who the hell knows? It's just my point though. I know what you're saying. I know exactly what you're saying.

But your people, your age and stuff are more educated what to look for. And truthfully, when I am in the store, I do go in the health food aisle because there's certain things that Bob likes. I know you've been getting better. But I'm saying there's things that Bob likes, like the Justin's peanut butter and stuff. And I buy different things for him. He eats a certain cereal from the health food section. And I do see a lot of older people, much older than me, looking at those labels and buying a lot of those things. So I do think people are becoming aware of it. But people like myself, these are the brands you lived on a lifetime these are

the brands you're gonna just they're just your go-to that's just your go-to where for you it's you know you wouldn't even think of that you know you'd look at that and i'm not buying that so it's that's where i think the way that i look at it though is like you know like that there's like that one person that you can't stand and all of a sudden he's gloating around in his brand new car. And he's like, hey, Kim. Hey, like he's like the neighbor. You can't you can't stand. He hates you.

You hate him. And he's got the new car and he's waving at you. And then he's got like some frickin. I don't know. I'd say he comes home with the nicest horse in the world, a giant frickin Clydesdale. And he's just like and the Clydesdale comes over and takes a shit on your lawn and walks back over to the house. And you're just like, I hate this guy. It's like Cousin Eddie from Christmas Vacation.

Oh, yeah. Right? Take out something real nice for yourself there, Clark. But every day, Clark goes home with $30,000. Right. Every day. That's what I think of these food companies. Well, yeah, and it happens, and it happens all the time.

You know what I mean? Because now Welch's Grape and Newman's O's, and they're giving everybody a shitty product, and they're putting these Mercedes-Benz emblems on them. They don't care. And you're buying it, and you're my mom, and fuck that. Like, I don't like knowing that that's happening. I get it, but you know what?

We got to get off of here. But quickly, I was making a pot roast about a month ago. I guess it was maybe back in April when I knew you were coming. I don't know why. But I bought that Paleo book and I bought – I believe it was coconut flour. That Paleo book was actually from Mark Sisson who just sold that big company, Prime Kitchen. Well, needless to say, it was like coconut flour.

So I needed something to thicken my sauce for the pot roast. And I didn't have any flour and it was pouring and I didn't want to go to the store and I said, you know what? I'll try this. It was awful and I mean awful and what was strange

wasn't even like a flour. I could have poured the whole bag in there and it wasn't going to thicken and I threw it out. It wasn't almond flour? No, it was coconut. Coconut? Yeah.

And then I even cooked fish in coconut oil because I took your advice and bought some of those things, and I tasted – I love coconut, but I tasted that coconut-y taste in the oil. There's different types of coconut oils, though. There's different types of oils. I like extra virgin olive oil. I don't know.

I just like it. That's fine. I don like extra virgin olive oil. I don't know. I just, just like it. I don't use any other oil. Yeah. You know what I mean? Look, but I like my junk. Yeah. But there are certain things

that I do watch. I don't eat bread at all. Not as, I don't eat any lunch meat. Um, I don't know. I'm not picking on you on this podcast.

No, no, I'm just saying in general, I guess I'm all over the map. Yeah. So. I just really wanted some education for other people to talk to their moms, talk to their grandparents, and just maybe even have them listen to this episode because it's not just this 32-year-old guy who's talking to other 32-year-old guys. You know what I mean?

Now it's like I have my 60-year-old mom on here, and now everybody in the world can listen to this show. It's equivalent to everyone. Not only is it going to be great laughter because everyone has always wanted to have you on, people have wanted to have you on forever. If you guys have ever been in my life at any point in any capacity, my mom has probably DM'd you and said, hey, I hope you like being around my son or something.

Well, believe me, I would love to say so many things on this show, but I can't. I can't say it because I'm just, you know, we live in a different world today. I don't want somebody saying, oh my God, that was Ryan's mom. Or my grandchild decides one day to be something successful. So you don't want to put your Instagram on here? You could put my Instagram on here. It's Kimmy731.58.

No, what is it? No, no, that's it. You don't do the email. Just do the Instagram. Oh, that's right. It's Kimmy731.58. No, what is it? No, no, that's it. You don't do the email. Just do the Instagram. Oh, that's right. You don't do the email. Then you get some weird shit. Yeah, this is true.

So Kimmy731.58. Yep, that's my mom. And you'll see. Once you go to her page, there'll be several photos of me on there. Yep. The golden child. Yep, I try. I try.

But yeah, this is great now because now people can literally give this episode to their mom. And I think that like that's going to be really cool. There's nothing that we've ever done on this show that could be applicable to everyone like that. So I'm really excited. Well, yeah. I mean I think it's interesting. I think it's a lot to think about. And I think that more people your age group and coming from california and stuff

where they're just a lot more educated you know i really do think that but we educated them now i just did a bunch of california education for everybody out there who's not from california the only reason we say california is because i really do think california is light years ahead of everybody else absolutely absolutely from everywhere that I've been, it's pretty crazy. Actually, I would just say the West Coast in general. I've been to Oregon and Washington, and they're pretty equal. Vegas is – they're a little off already, and they're already starting to get bad. Utah is good.

They're still considered West Coast, though. And Colorado is very good. I think after Colorado, you start to get screwed a little bit well you know every they say everything starts out in california all the new trends all everything starts out there first so who knows i think that's it huh yeah it's been interesting it's been real thanks for listening hope you liked it thanks for supporting my son oh yeah so if you guys want to give me some more love and more support, you can go to Ryan Fish. That's my Instagram. It's R-Y-A-N-F-I-S-C-H.

You guys can see what I've been up to. I've been creating my new workout series called High Intensity Interval Bodybuilding. Kind of stole the acronym from High Intensity Interval Training. Started making some books. They got really popular. Sold freaking thousands of them already. It's insane. I made this really cool thing and didn't even realize it. It's just something I kind of did on my own without realizing it was really a thing. So if you

guys want to check those out, it's crossfitchalk.com. Click shop and you can see some of the books I have on there. I have another book on there. It's just 30 days of kettlebells in case your mom only wants to have a kettlebell at home and wants to work out with just that. So I have that. And then I have my online program, which you guys know much about. So that is on CrossFitChalk.com as well, and it's called The Program. And I program for gyms all around the world. And as far as people who are in the garage gym and have a decent amount of equipment, the program will get you going.

And then you guys can follow the gym, CrossFit Chalk, C-R-O-O. Nope, not C-R-O-O. C-R-O-S-S-F-I-T-C-H-A-L-K, CrossFit Chalk. And I put movements on there all the time and technique tips and stuff like that. So I will see you guys next Tuesday on the Real Chalk Podcast. I hope you love this one. I cannot believe that it happened, one, and two, that it went so well. And my mom didn't really curse too much, so that's really, really –

Well, I can't. I can't. I can't. I'm going to get cursed out when this is over. My husband warned me. Anyway, you forgot to mention your sponsors, didn't you? Oh, no. I did that in the beginning.

Oh, okay. But I did talk a little bit about digestive enzymes, and they're going to be part of that. Oh, I remember. All right. All right, guys. Next Tuesday – Over and out. I will see you over and out.

See you.