Barbell Shrugged - Yohan Blake: The Fastest Man in the World with Yohan Blake, Anders Varner, Doug Larson and Travis Mash — Barbell Shrugged #398

Episode Date: May 29, 2019

Yohan Blake is a Jamaican sprinter of the 100-meter and 200-meter sprint races. He won gold at the 100 m at the 2011 World Championships as the youngest 100 m world champion ever, and a silver medal in the 2012 Olympic Games in London in the 100 m and 200 m races for the Jamaican team.   Blake is the second fastest man ever in both 100 m and 200 m. Together with Tyson Gay, he is the joint second fastest man ever over 100 m with a personal best of 9.69 seconds which he ran on 23 August 2012 with less favorable wind conditions than Gay's personal best from three years prior. Only Usain Bolt has run faster. His personal best for the 200 m (19.26 seconds) is the second fastest time ever after Bolt. He holds the Jamaican national junior record for the 100 meters, and was formerly the youngest sprinter to have broken the 10-second barrier (at 19 years, 196 days). Minute Breakdown:   0-10 - Early beginnings as a cricket player 11-20 - Coming back from Hamstring Avulsion injury 21-30 - Peaking for the 2020 Olympics 31-40 - Building a team to be the best in the world 41-50 - Behind the scenes of the Olympics 51 -60 - Creating foundations to give back to Jamaica   Follow Yohan Blake http://ybafraid.com _____________________________________________________ Join the One Ton Challenge Leaderboard, record your PR’s and track your progress.   “What is the One Ton Challenge”   “How Strong is Strong Enough”   “How do I Start the One Ton Challenge”   Use code “SHRUGGED” to save 15% on the best recovery tracking tool in strength with Whoop.   Save 20% on all Organifi purchases going to www.organifi.com/shrugged Save 20% on the best digestive enzymes on the planet at http://bioptimizers.com/shrugged Halo Sport 2 exclusive offer for $279 at http://gethalosport.com/shrugged ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Show notes at: http://www.shruggedcollective.com/bbs-blake -----------------------------------------------------------------------   ► Subscribe to Barbell Shrugged's Channel Here ► Subscribe to Shrugged Collective's Channel Here http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedSubscribe 📲 🎧 Listen to the audio version on the Apple Podcast App or Stitcher for Android Here- http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedApple http://bit.ly/BarbellShruggedStitcher Shrugged Collective is a network of fitness, health and performance shows that help people achieve their physical and mental health goals.  Usually in the gym, but outside as well. In 2012 they posted their first Barbell Shrugged podcast and have been putting out weekly free videos and podcasts ever since. Along the way we've created successful online coaching programs including The Shrugged Strength Challenge, The Muscle Gain Challenge, FLIGHT, Barbell Shredded, and Barbell Bikini. We're also dedicated to helping affiliate gym owners grow their businesses and better serve their members by providing owners tools and resources like the Barbell Business Podcast. Find Shrugged Collective and their flagship show Barbell Shrugged here: SUBSCRIBE ON ITUNES ► http://bit.ly/ShruggedCollectiveiTunes WEBSITE ► https://www.ShruggedCollective.com INSTAGRAM ► https://instagram.com/shruggedcollective FACEBOOK ► https://facebook.com/barbellshruggedpodcast TWITTER ► http://twitter.com/barbellshrugged

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kind of like the state of track in Jamaica right now. And then just break into your story. I think it's probably really cool, especially because us, we've been hanging out with like 17 to 19-year-olds, probably on the same track that look up to you. All that fun stuff. Yeah. Well, for me, it really started from a very poor background, a humble background. Yeah. My family didn't have it like that, you know, so.

We're going. Yeah. Track and field was my way out. But I started playing cricket and I was running up the bowl one day and the principal said, no, man, this guy have to run. So I end up running and I came second at the all-east champs and from that I made the transition to San Diego where it all started for me yeah you know I'm winning champs also still the current national 100-meter junior record holder still all the second well the fastest time ever on Jamaica's I'll not even the great using both on that and for me it was very hard coming making that transition you know from knowing that

your family doesn't have it to to the real stage every day when I'm on the track training, I have to put out my heart for my mom because it was a one room, seven of us living in. And at that time, every money that I make, I have to send it back home so everybody can be all right. Yeah. And I said to coach one day, Usain Bolt was running.

He run 19.5 In the stadium I came third I run the 100 I run 10.08 Popped his back up like that And I said to coach To coach Mills at that time

Was coaching me And I said coach When is going to be my time Because I keep coming third And everything And he look upon me When is it going to be my time? Because I keep coming third and everything. And he looked upon me. I said, you have to create your time.

And from that day, I started to step out of the shadow. Yeah. Of a great man, you're saying. To create my own style. Because he gave me that name, Beast. So I used that as a platform for me. I go back training the next Monday, and it was a different me. It was a different type of training.

I trained up to a point where the coach told me to take two weeks because I'm two feet. You don't need to run. You're two feet to train. I was bursting with energy. I was bursting with all kind of anxiety just to run. And he said, listen, you got to sit down. You're too fit.

Yeah. So that's a big part of my story. And as you can see in Jamaica right now, you have taken up something that is hard and it's doable. There's a lot of talent here to be honest yeah obviously and yeah you know I was I was saying to one of the guys today that back then there was no cell phone there was no computer there wasn't much distraction for us yeah we grew up in the country we don't know those things

all we know about is chasing animals running up and down playing games that's where our talent was developed from yeah some say yam some say banana yeah that's a part of it but because that's the only thing we could have eat we didn't have the fancy food yeah it was there but we can't afford it and since the new world I call it a new world come you have the computers you can't everything we get distracted we start to sit in almost start to play games we start to get belly we start to get fat kids kids these days just want to see cell phone they just want to see computers the transition is not there like that before

yeah they're almost not willing to put in like the the time because they see it so quickly technology just like brings it right to you instead of you having a slow progression where was like the the coaching for you along the way I imagine going from kind of the one-bedroom house with seven people in it probably not a ton of guidance and where you're going and how do you uh kind of find mentors coaches that you want trust i imagine there's some some issues that may arise of just somebody coming in and saying i'm gonna help you and you're like who's that like how what's kind of that progression of finding the coaches and mentors along the way

to be honest there was no one apart from family and the situation that they were in. To be honest, I didn't fall under peer pressure. Yeah. All I need, all my mom would say to me, you got to find it because there's no food. So I said, what am I supposed to do right now? Yeah. food so I said what am I supposed to do right now yeah if I do a sport relating team this guy in

Jamaica there's a lot of politics they're not going to pick you because they like that guy more than you so I said okay check on field I said father god I need some speed I need something very fast um apparently I wasn't that fast you know yeah and the next morning I don't know if you're probably trying this word but I know it's a miracle for me I grew up I get up the next morning and I just feel like run and one of my friend that always come on and watch me I was running down this car and I was I was moving I said thank you God you know from that moment I didn't turn back I just I just kept on going till I made it

to San Diego and how how old were you when you're doing this I heard I start pretty late I was 16 when you're having that realization yeah that I could have run because I was trying cricket to help build up myself but if I decided earlier it would be crazy but I started pretty young I'm just really late when I was 16 yeah and that's the time when time I was making the Jamaican team you know and and that was encouraging me more to continue and I was focused on what I want no girl my coach always tell me Danny out on if you lose anything if you lose anything, if you're going to have sex, you're going to lose speed.

That was what kept me. I said, I don't want to lose any speed. So I tried to stay away from that. I lost my virginity very late because of that. When I realized when I was like 19, I said, that stuff will mess you up, dude. He did the right thing. That's why you beat Anders today. He didn't wait. I didn't wait i didn't wait he lost everything multiple times so from that moment you know when i was 19 i was at the world junior i came third and this girl this this this girl amy

she just changed all of that for me. I was feeling good tonight I know for just I just let loose and but it good and it's bad You know, it really helped me. I still stayed focused and I still carry the mantle and up to today day and I'm still focused yeah, the We are being in Jamaica. That is like that's like the NFL to us The track is the biggest sport right and. Track is the biggest sport, right? And the 100 is the biggest event, 100, 200? Definitely, especially the 100 meter.

Yeah, and everybody here talks about champs. That's like the event for you guys, which is the high school national championship, right? Definitely. How did you go from 16 to winning champs? Because that's a very fast turnaround against kids that have been doing this their entire lives with the best coaches and you just kind of come in and from a cricket background yeah well the first year for me i came i came second yeah there was this guy named

cowen jervis he was doing it where he's old from from class three and i met him in class two i said damn this but I didn't care. I just wanted to run. Yeah. And I came second. And I realized I have the potential. And I came back the next year and I won everything. Yeah.

I'm very fast. I'm very talented. So I just harness it. Like train on it. I'm building it. Focus with it. You used to do the 100 and 200 right yeah do you do the 200 anymore but I'm training for it I still I still going to do it this year the world championship yeah is that something

that you're able to kind of do both of those really at the highest level yeah definitely I was training for it but then you know I run the second fastest time in the 200 I think it's one of my better then, you know. I run the second fastest time in the 200. I think it's one of my better events. Yeah. You know, kind of when I got injured, I got a life threatening. A injury that could have let me pull out of the sports for good. I tore my arm string and all of it come off the bone.

Yeah. That's when you met Jay, correct? Yeah. Yes. And Jay do a lot of work, you know, coming back, building back the muscle. That's a tough one to come back from. A lot of people don't survive that. My coach actually, you know, said to one of my friends,

well, he was talking to his companion and one of his friends, and my friend was in the background and he heard him. So I don't think this guy going to be back, you know. Yeah. My owner coach. And I went up into the hills and I cried for two weeks. he said and he heard him so I don't think this guy going to be back you know yeah my own a coach and I went up into the hills and I cry for one for two weeks I cried for two weeks I say I'm young and he's saying that about me and that helped me the drive I stayed up in the wilderness and say I going to come back you know yeah no one really know about this story I come going to come back, you know. Yeah. No one really know about this story.

When I come back, I keep on pushing myself, pushing myself to back where I want to be. Do you plan on running the 200 in the Olympics or just the 100? Well, definitely I'm planning on doing the 200. I know I have the stamina. I know I have the training for it. I know I can do it, and I really want to do it i love the 200 yeah so i'm curious you know like um it being the the number one sport you know right in jamaica and i know at one time hussein was like the i don't know if you know this he was the number one paid

athlete in the entire world there was two years running where hussein was the number one. So, like, where in track and field does the money come from? Well, definitely from, I would say, from appearance, from the Diamond Leagues, from the World Championship. When Usain was the highest paid athlete, I was the second highest paid athlete. I know, yeah. You know, and I shouldn't say, but yeah, that time is because of things. Right.

Things led to, for me, not to surpass all of that. Right. Because I was there. I was ready. Right. So for some reason, it just didn't unfold. Right. So for some reason it just didn't unfold. Right. So what do you think are the reasons?

That's why I say I can't really say it. Okay. I can't say it when I'm ready to give my documentary I'll give you guys. Okay. Now it's your time. You're getting me in trouble right now. I'm still in the game. Yeah.

Okay. Well, I'm curious. You went up in the woods and you cried for two weeks and you got your shit together and decided I'm going to fucking come back and prove everybody wrong, so to speak. Yeah, definitely. You made that decision, but then what's it like

actually having to do the work to come back? Coming back from a really major injury. Almost every week I have to fly to Germany to get my legs sorted out and to get treatment.

And also I've just been in the woods as well doing a lot of running. A lot of running, a lot of training with Jay. Jay was building back the muscle, building back the area around it. Everybody was wondering why I'm getting so big it's because I've lost

so many muscle mass that you have to help me to get back all of that and we spent a lot of time doing that and people were saying all kinds of things that's the wrong training for you but they didn't understand the inside out

people from the outside looking in doesn't understand what's going on that's always the case you know probably because they want to be the ones trying to get a crack at it so um you know during that time like what were some of the things you guys did now oh first question is with your with your hamstring did you have to get surgery to reattach it or did you just kind of you know use physical therapy to do man after the surgery to reattach it I was in surgery for five hours. Yeah, and so then you know Jay helps you, you know, you start doing your own things What are some of the things you guys were doing to like heal that thing?

To be honest, we have it on paper. I'd have to let Jay give it to you. Okay. There's a lot of work that he wrote down. You have a whole thing. Right. So you have all of what we're doing. Well, whatever he did, as we saw today, as you found out, Anders, he did a pretty darn good job. He did a pretty darn good job.

Does it feel normal today? Well, there is aluminum inside of it. Before, people were saying, why you are not cutting back as fast enough? But we have to take our time to manipulate it for it to stretch right out. So right now, it feels very normal. So I can sprint at eye level, at eye intensity.

Maybe they put an extra something in there, since you're the fastest man in the world. I mean, they did a pretty good job. Yeah, they did. And I healed very fast as well because the muscle was young and I took care of my body. So it healed pretty fast. At this stage in the game with all the volume that people put on their bodies

and just like the wear and tear of being a professional athlete, do you find it to be kind of a huge benefit that you started so late now yeah definitely um because my body can sustain for for so much longer yeah you know i don't drink i don't smoke so my body can well i plan to i plan to stop in the next two years but then after the last world championship because um you want to leave the sport um and eye, and I want to do that. Yeah. But I find not doing smoking, not doing drinking, not partying as much, doesn't have much wear and tear in the body.

I don't like sleep, though. Coming from that one-bedroom house and now in a way, I mean, you have access to every person. Everybody comes at you. No drinking, no smoking, no going out. Like, was that from, you know, winning champs to this is the way I'm going? Were you always that dedicated? Definitely, I'm always that dedicated.

I was surprised of myself. Yeah. You know, not to fall under peer pressure, not to follow other guys, you know, because in Montego Bay, we are of myself yeah you know not to fall under peer pressure not to follow other guys you know because in Montego Bay where I grew up you know there was a lot of scamming going on you know there's a lot of violence even up to today day you know and I didn't fall I didn't fall through under that you know I keep my I keep my head my head high and I just I just talked to my mom and I say, you have to do it for you.

Because every day, every day, my mom gets up crying. There was no food. There was no water. So it is good because that makes you want to work. You're saying everybody go through those things. We didn't bond with that ghost spoon. So we have to fight for it. And that's what keeps the fire burning.

That's what keep the fire burning that's what keep the hunger one day you say and said to me john why are you doing this don't do it for the people you said to me when i'm running i say okay my mother in the washing machine i need a bmw you know i go home and i said to myself of course my mom need these things that time he was driving i was walking and that i went um just got to race yeah and i go home and i said one day and i said can you give me a driver for this x5 that time x5 was yeah was the bomb yeah he said no you have to go and work for it. Because I know how hard you work.

And I said, okay. And I just started working, and things just started happening. Yeah. To become, did you, when you think about the amount of work and how hard it is to be the fastest man in the world and go to the Olympics and actually perform, was there ever a moment, I guess not even a moment, but just the overwhelming feeling sometimes of like shit there's so much work that has to get done to be that good and sustain it once you're at the top like everyone's coming for you you know um it was

crazy you know why they he gave me the way i work in training you say look at me one day i say you is the beast i don't back down. I know he's taller than me. So I have to keep working to stay ahead of the game. Yeah. When he's sleeping and I'm working. Sometime coach will call me and say are you working? I said no coach.

That time I am. Yeah. Because you have to do your own work. And that's what I do every day. Yeah. My own work. Because to get to the top is hard. To that's what I do every day, my own work. Because to get to the top is hard. To stay at the top is even harder.

I love how he's taking responsibility for himself. I hope that the athletes in America and around the world, heck, are listening to this right now. When you're always blaming other people or other things or circumstances, if you listen to this podcast and shut your mouth. Look yourself in the mirror and say, what am I willing to do? Obviously, Elon was willing to do whatever it took. Well, I think it's really hard too because it's like you end up shedding more crap

from your life than kind of taking things on. It's like, what do you choose to get rid of more than what do we allow in? Drinking and smoking is the easy one. It's kind of finding that extra baggage that pulls you away from finding that extra baggage that pulls you away from whatever that that goal that dream is when you i mean have there been any real tough decisions like in coaches training um just the personalities that's not easy you're at the

top you have the biggest personalities to deal with well Well, it wasn't hard, you know, really, apart from the training, because I identified Coach Glenn Mills after I leave high school and said, this is where I want to be. And the level that I wanted to be at, he took me there. I was there. It's just only because of that one injury

kept me back, because I was on my It's just only because of that one injury kept me back because I was on my way to smash everything. I know it's not over as yet. It's right there, and I feel it each and every day right now I'm training. Yeah. What about the peaking process? You know, we're a little bit more like a year and 100 days out from the Olympics. So are you going to peak before the Olympics and then again at the Olympics,

or is everything geared towards peaking at that one moment in time? Well, the Olympics, I would say it's a far way away, in a sense. Right now is the world championship in September, October, and I have to peak for that. That's a big stepping stone in being the world champion as well. Right. And then we can focus after that for the Olympics. For that one moment.

For that one moment. Real quick, for all the people that don't know all of your accomplishments, like what are your pinnacle moments? Well, I have a lot of pinnacle moments. And the fact – where should I start? We don't have that problem, you know. Take your time. Champs champion.

I'm the national junior record holder. I have the fastest time ever on Jamaican style. I have the fastest Diamond League 100 and 200. And I suppose I have like three or four world challenge on our Diamond League records. The youngest world championship, world champion ever. It's not bad. Olympic champion in the 4x1 and in silver in the 100 and 200 as well at the Olympics. The list goes on from Carifta and all of that.

I have to look back. There's so much there. I love what you said today. You're the current. I'm the current. Fastest man in the world. Fastest man in the world. If you line them all up, he wins that race to the. You're the current. I'm the current. Fastest man in the world. Fastest man in the world. If you line them all up, he wins that race to the stop sign down the street.

I don't even get what it's like walking around. You pass me, and you're like, I know I'm faster than you. And you. What does the life of a professional track athlete actually look like? What is a race schedule? How much travel is there? It's clearly not just in Jamaica. I would imagine they're spread out around the world.

But what is just a general schedule when you're in season look like? Well, definitely. You travel from meet to meet. Like, well, we're based in London, and then we travel to, like, Rome or Zurich or Brussels, you know, like three or four days before the meet to get acclimatized to that weather and to that condition and you're just pretty much based close to the area because to fly to flew from jamaica to to rome it's a lot than the body yeah yeah better you stay in london or somewhere close italy and you have actually our over to the to the different part. Yeah, you take a train or something.

Yeah, you take a train or something. So it's a bit hectic to travel and run at the time, but it's nice in a way because you get to travel the world and to showcase your talent. Yeah. The coach we met today, does he travel with you? When you go to London and stay, does he go with you or are you by yourself? No, man.

I travel with my team, Coach Dawson, Mr. Ferron. We travel together because you have to have that. The guys we met today. Yeah, definitely. I was talking with one of those guys briefly, and he said that you were just a real – I think he used the word pleasure or gift to work with, saying that, like, you're always on time, like you're very regimented, like you're very consistent.

If you have a rest interval that's five minutes, exactly five minutes later you're going to be on your next rep. Yeah, I believe in hard work, and it always pays off for me. Sometimes they say I work too hard, but I'm always diligent in everything I'm doing, you know, because nothing comes easy, and no one's going to give me anything on a platter. I have to work hard for it so that's what I do

each and every day and it always worked for me how long have they been coaching you well I'm well Patrick has been wrong for a very long time from the first time I went to races but he was like the second guy you know we interact no one then but But for right now, it's just a couple of months. Yeah. Yeah. I've been with Coach Miss for like 10 years. Nice. What's the – how often are you racing?

Like how – is it monthly where you guys have these big events? Well, like every – no. Well, different – like every three weeks, I try to run. Yeah. You know, not to – I try to keep my body in race shape. You know, but in training, though, you put out that effort like you're in a race so when you go there you're not too rusty How much

control do you have over your own training? Are you really dialed into the process or do you just hand it off to them for the most part and do what they say? I would say vice versa because if you're working with someone you have to trust them you have to believe in what they wrote or what they say. I would say vice versa because if you're working with someone you have to trust them. You have to

believe in what they wrote or what they're doing. And I give them that trust and I know I've seen Coach Patrick work before

because he has been there many times. Yeah. And I know he's really really really good and

it's paying off to be honest. I like the way just his demeanor, super positive. Like, I mean, I think most athletes will respond better to a coach like him. Like the way he talked about you, he's super nice. So he sounded like, for us, he was a real pleasure to be around. I don't know, maybe he cracks a whip, but, like, he's super nice, too. Yeah, man, he's really cool, you know, a whip but like he's super nice dude yeah man he

is really cool you know because in everything that you're doing you have to have chemistry and everything have to come together and work in our in our gardens and stuff so in your training um you know you guys say you you run with the same effort as race so you guys actually do maximum effort where you're trying to like you know pr your 100 in training or is it like 90 well like you don't try to run your distance in training try to go up a bit over sometimes shorter right you know um but you try to pr in the longer runs but it's not like every day you come and you say you're going to um run maximum effort right but like majority of the time so every single week some of the you

know one of those days or two are going to be maximum yeah going to be maximum effort sounds so much like you know we live max out fridays yeah i mean yeah but like like today today was one of my easier day shit to be honest yeah he's like he's running half speed anderson yeah i wasn't full it looked fast look fast it fast, but it wasn't a full tilt. Yeah. Right. What about a week of training? You know, are you on the track, you know, four or five days a week or twice a day?

And then how often do you lift weights? Do you do recovery things? Yeah, I do. I'm on the track from Monday to Friday. These days I try to rest on Saturdays and Sundays because the body really, we are in terror. Most of my heavy days are on Tuesdays and Thursdays. Monday is hard as well, but mostly Tuesday and Thursday is dead. I get to see Bob Marley, Michael Jackson, James Brown.

That's what hard training is. You feel like you're dead yeah but um after recovery and a lot of ice but on Tuesdays and Thursday of this muscle recovery pump that I put on my legs even tonight when I leave we are going to do that to recover the muscle for tomorrow right another that I get a lot of manipulation you know let's have massage as well to try to keep the body in tip-top shape. Right. How often do you lift weights?

Oh, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday, and Friday, four times for the week. Oh, wow. Nice. But it's not like weights, weights. You know, I do a lot of core. I do a lot of mobility. You know, because the most important thing, if you know, muscle is very heavy. Right.

And it's a matter of what your skeletal frame, that's the skeleton, can manage. And muscle is very heavy for a race. Yeah. Some person will build up lactic acid very fast than some because of the muscle size. So while you're there going and I run past you, you're gaining moreactic than me sometime you're you're faster but most is very heavy you don't want to be too big on the truck yeah that's because it's slow you right down yeah heard a lot this week from coach cab about having just extra useless muscle yeah first is like relative muscle that can be used yeah it'll be useful but there's

a saying in Jamaica I don't know if you hear of a thing of a pepper called sweet pepper I don't think we're eating a sweet pepper what

yeah it's a sweet pepper it's like a pepper but it's not hot so we're saying your muscle is big but it's not firing right ah I gotcha

there it is so the smaller the pepper I'm taking that the smaller the pepper the hotter no I'm not saying you The smaller the pepper, the hotter. No, I'm not saying you, you know. Have you gone over where you wanted to be? Like too big, too strong, and then slowed down?

Definitely. I struggled with that a couple times in my career. You know, I'm just tight and I can't move. But now I'm at a place where I control it. I'm dieting. I'm not lifting too heavy. I'm not lifting the amount of reps I would like to do. One, two, three. Or one, two, one, two.

And just back off. Just maintaining the whole time. Try not to do too much hypertrophy. Totally. So you run sprints, obviously, lift weights, obviously. Do you do anything like plyometrics or box jumps like that for explosive power definitely I did I do explosive stuff I do a lot of hurdles if if you guys are here for longer use you'd like it to see a deep regime of my training and at the

gym jump like on a tour I do a lot of jumping. Multiple jump. A lot of different type of plyometric drills. Yeah. Right. So, I mean, who was it? The great speed coach who talked about ground contact time with plyometric speed.

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Talk to you guys at the end of the show. How much goes into the nutrition side of things? Do you still eat all the mangoes and all the fruit, all the sweet stuff? All the bananas. You eat them all? You said yams all the fruit, all the sweet stuff? All the bananas. You eat them all? You said yams and bananas is what you grew up on? Yeah, definitely. Starch is good for the body.

Iron is good for the body. Potassium is good for the body. We talk about ripe and green banana, yam and sweet potato, and Irish potato. They are very good for the body, of course. That's what I grew up on. Those are strength foods for us. I'll start eating them them tomorrow so I do and you have to have a little bit of everything and that thing is very important yeah when you I guess like your team that you build up is nutrition a part of that

like what are the pieces of the team like your inner circle of five what is their role well my doctor Paulaula dawson and also my nutrition windtrap you know um sometimes in my supplement you know um we try to the supplements help you um to get better faster than what the food take a little bit of time yeah food is good but you need a supplement because the supplementary muscle um in the bloodstream a lot faster than some of the food. You know, so my nutritionist and the supplement guy combine together and do all of that. Yeah. Do you have a physio that follows you on the road?

Yeah, Mr. Farhan, that you see him today. Coach, strength coach? Yeah. Everyone goes? Everyone goes. It's not that easy. As a professional, you have to have everything around you to be comfortable. And so that's everything work.

What is – I'm sorry. Is there a race team? Do you have other teammates that are running as well? Well, not really. Not really. It's not everybody will get into the races. Right.

But majority of the time, it's me alone. Like, oh, they're training in Europe and all that. Were you a part of the team from Jamaica that were – it was at the World Championships and you guys finished where Jamaica swept 1, 2, 3? Was that – Oh, the Olympics. Yeah. It was the Olympics.

Oh, yeah. So it was, like, Usain, you, and then Asafa Powell, right? And then Warren Ware. Oh, okay. Yeah. Sorry. So it was four of you guys in the final heat? No, it was three of us. Three, and then Asafa Powell. Then Warren Ware. Oh, okay. Yeah. Sorry. So it was four of you guys in the final heat? No, it was three of us.

Three, and then all Asafa then. Yeah. Well, Asafa was in the 100, but he stopped. He stopped. Right. Wow. What was it like when Jamaica totally dominated the world? It was crazy, man.

The streets were blocked. You know, everybody was pandemonium. Everybody was crazy. The country went crazy. The streets were blocked. It was pandemonium. Everybody was crazy. The country went crazy? The country went crazy. There was no violence on that day. Everybody in the whole island was happy. When you got back, were people there to greet you and it was a big party?

There was a big party. It was crazy. Tell me about the party. It was crazy. Let's hear. Like, tell me about the party. You know, for me, it's just. He went home, went to bed at 8 o'clock, trained the next day. That's me. That's me.

I didn't. Not even one day. When you sweep. Not me. No, but not even the actual party of you partying. But, like, what happens in the city when you guys do that? Is it just the whole thing shut down? No one's working?

Everyone's at a place to hang out with somebody. Leave work. Everybody work stop. As I said, Jamaica full of crime and there was no crime on that day. That's awesome. It sounds like when Piers Dimas would compete, the whole country of Greece shut down.

11 million people stopped what they're doing. Yeah. Yeah, because for a tiny island, you know, to do something like that, not just on a world stage but on an Olympic stage, you know, wherever Bali, you know, one of the most watched sports. Yeah. Is the crop coming up behind you? Is it just as talented?

Like, are they coming after you right now and you know it's, like, it's there, the people are ready to step on the stage? They are there. To be honest, they are there, and it's for them to make the transition. And if they don't make that transition, it's not going to happen. And right now we are in a spring crisis predominantly on the main side. You know, we just need to make that transition. There's so much right now.

Yeah. I leave high school. In my time, that was good. Yeah. Well, I think it's really cool because that's what we're actually doing here. I mean, we came down here to hang out with a group of 17 to 19-year-olds. There may be a couple kids that are a little bit older than that. Yeah, very young.

And it's very cool seeing you kind of at the the top of the sport and then we've got seven kids with us six kids with us this week that are sleeping in bunk beds in the back of the gym trying to figure out how to make this running thing a professional career uh what is a little bit of the just the state of track in Jamaica and, you know, us seeing such ends of the spectrum? Where is it lacking? The funding? Just kind of like what does track look like as a means of making it in this country? You know, as a nation, as a country, I think the government should look at it

and do more, to be honest. Because we're producing so much quality athletes. Sorry you guys never get to see champs. We'll be back. We got time. And see the crop of athletes that we're talking about.

And you'll be amazed. Because that's where I come from. That's where you're saying you come from that's where you say you come from that's majority of the top Shelly and Fraser Elaine

that's where all of them come from Warren Ware Nikila Schmid and I can call names that's where they come from what can we do to like

to help we have to do we have to go into the schools right because right now all they are looking it's a business right now for them.

Yeah. You know, run the athlete to wreck and then they get the money. And there's somebody right behind them. The factory. Yeah.

You know, and they're just business about the money, running the athlete, making money and that's it for them. After high school, then what?

Yeah. So. Well, is it something that you can like, actually, like how many of the entire field of people actually make a living not being Johan Blake? I mean, like, how far back can you fall before it's not sustainable?

There's no money, yeah. I would say it's minority of that is happening right now because they're not getting funding. That's why most of them stop going to work. There's no funding. In Jamaica? In Jamaica whatsoever. Oh, my gosh. I mean, like, you guys are literally the best in the whole world.

Yeah. At least fund the sprinters. At least. You know, there's a lot of kids right now. I have to even end up out of my pocket. Yeah. To help the kids. Putting them up to stay, you know, pay nutrition bills,

and all that type of things. Me, out of my pocket. Yeah. I've been doing that right now because the government does. How does the sport organize itself here? Like, what are the major funding groups, like, pushing the sport forward just nationally? It should be J3A.

And they're a bunch of jokers, to be honest. The president is crazy. Yeah. The president is really crazy. The president of the country or the president of the track and field? No, the president of the track and field. Of the league. Right.

You know? It's crazy. And I think, I don't know what they're doing, but I think we need a new leader, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I think, I mean, even the facilities like jay's gyms awesome um but you kind of go to the track and it's like it's time for a big facility that has a gym in it and like yeah you would think that would be really nice world the best friends that ever existed on this planet earth are right here yeah and like no one's

doing anything to help them no, it's got to change. But the people that are putting stuff together for, I mean, like Jay is doing, how often is he the only person in the country that's creating, like, youth programs and housing kids and helping them kind of, I mean, it sounds like what he's really doing is helping them become men

in a way of, like, showing them how to live a quality life, and track just happens to be the way that he's getting a hold of them you know some of the kids it's not everybody it's for school work and um some of the kids sports is their way out just like me sports was my way out yeah and i learned growing i was lucky you know i was lucky to be that fast and to hit it just at the right time. And I'm saying there's people out there who can be better than us, just need that attention. Yeah.

Apart from even Jamaica, just build some housing to put these kids in, have somewhere where they train, have coaches. That would be great. Yeah. It shouldn't be lucky. Everyone's got legs. You can have them all race to the end of the block and find out who the fast one is and pick them out and say, hey, we have a life for you.

Like, everyone's got it. Everyone can run. Listen to me. I wasn't the fastest. Yeah. I was a second place guy. And that coach said to me, I want that guy that came second. He didn't want the fastest guy.

Who was the fastest? There's a... Where is he? He's gone. Yeah. He stopped running. Yeah, he got a... Sometimes it's not the guy who wins.

Sometimes it's the guy who is just behind. Yeah. Sometimes it's not the guy who wins. Sometimes it's the guy who is just behind. Yeah. Sometimes it's not the guy with the doctorate. Yeah. Sometimes it's the street smart guy. Someone's got to work hard. You understand? God, it might as well be you.

Yeah. What is kind of the career? Have you, I mean, you said two years. You've got two worlds left. Have you thought, I mean, what is the process of getting to the Olympics, winning worlds? I guess knowing the things you would like to accomplish, I would imagine two golds would be the ideal. But building a year out and you've got two left. So, like, what does that kind of look like mentally and preparing your training for it?

Well, definitely I try not to think so far ahead. Yeah. You know, I just like to take it one day at a time, you know, because you don't know what tomorrow holds. Yeah. You know, I read my Bible and it say, you know, I'll just take every day like another day. So I just take on that day.

And when it come, it come. But I'll be ready. Yeah. I'm feeling good and everything is working just the right way. So by that time, I'll be ready. That's exciting. Are you currently, you mentioned that you got the gold in the 4x1. Are you training that as well at the moment?

Yeah, definitely. We don't train for it, but on the day, we just put the team together and run. Time out. You guys don't practice at all before you go out there? Yeah, you guys won the 4-by-one with no practice. That's typical Jamaica. We just put a team together, and on the day we just run. That is awesome.

Hey, you want to run this Olympic event with me? What they should do is create really camp like what Great Britain do, like what the U.S. do. Yeah. We don't do that. They just rely on the strength. That just embarrassed so many sprinters the ones who got beat by them were just like oh my god we all just met the other day we

i asked him if he was fast and he said yes we drew straws we drew straws and we beat you oh my that's so good like i'm just a matt i'm amazed that you know like the you know most people in america like the whole transition transition of the baton to the next guy, they really practice that hard. You guys are just like, here you go, man. It's my turn. Go in. I'm last.

We just use speed and talent. Because Jamaica, I just think we're not that equipped as a nation, as a country, as a club, to just come together and just start something. Yeah. Do you have kids? No, not yet. Yeah. You know, for me, kids is very big.

You know, I love kids. I have a foundation, the Why Be Afraid Foundation. Nice. You know, that I take care of as well. well those are kids that that have been abandoned yeah I leave it home get pregnant get molested by their their parents are by the Guardian at a tender as 12 my 10 a arm here's a page and so those are the kids that take care of our like over 200 yes over 200 three homes in Jamaica that I take care of. Where are they at? Here?

In Mandeville, in Montego Bay, and in St. Mary. And I'm building a big facilities there right now with my sponsor, Richard Meal, and also Timothy as well. When you guys come back, you'll

see a big track house. You. So we're putting a big, when you guys come back, you'll see a big track, a track house, you know, we're, we're taking over, you know, because the government not doing it. It's a government for no man,

the government not doing anything. So we have to step in. Do it yourself. Yeah. Yeah. How much of a kind of like with you and Usain goes into creating stuff like that for your home country. I feel like that makes a massive impact. And you guys are, I guess, seen as the leaders in this country.

Yeah. Usain does his thing and I do my thing. You know, I just focus on my side. Yeah. You know, I don't know about his people. I just focus on my side and just building something

yeah dude when we hung out today you are fast as shit like it's really wild no but I when one question I think is really interesting is like when did you did you really realize, like, this could be,

you could be the best in the world? It's when I became, when I was third at the World Junior. Yeah. And I said, you know, I can do something with this. And from that moment, I just started running. Yeah. Have you thought or just kind of in reflection or think about it almost maybe even daily each practice, but kind of that transition of coming and being number one in the world,

like leaving that beast character and becoming just who you are now. What is kind of that process and maybe even defining, like, who this new person is? You know, it was really tough to let go of that name, you know, because a lot of people were saying it's very bad, it's evil, it's 666, it's the mark of the beast. Obviously not. But for me, it was just taking on a character, you know, use it for everyone because people still call me the Beast.

You know, I still answer. But it was so hard to change from all of that because it's your stage name. Yeah. It's like an artist. You know, you're singing and you have a stage name. And it was my stage name and it was my fire. You know, but I recreate myself and just being myself right now uh first go and do it with me with myself yeah it seems to be working it it it going to work

yeah you know it's going to work what is the process to actually making the olympics for you i mean we talk about it like you're just going but what do you still have to qualify and go through all the trials to get there? Definitely, you have to go through the trials. They should give you an automatic bid. I like the function. It's good. He's going to give himself an automatic bid. I just believe that everybody has to work for what they want and to give everybody a fair chance.

I enjoy lining up with those guys and running for your position. Does the Olympics come down to one event or is it a series of events? I enjoy lining up with those guys and running for your position. Does making the Olympics come down to one event or is it a series of events? In weightlifting, it's a series of events is what we're judged on. How does that work? As you say, everybody finds themselves in the 100 and the 200. It just comes down to your event and the day when it's the 100-meter finals, when it's the 200-meter finals, if you're in it or you're not.

It's you and that day in your lane, just you alone. Right. All right. At this point in your career, do you still get nervous, or have you ever gotten nervous, rather? Nervous is a part of the game. You have to get nervous. When you're nervous, you run a lot better. You know, sometimes I try to let go a little bit of dopamine.

Dopamine on the body is trying to ease a little of the nerve, you know. So I just go there and run. When I'm nervous, I run better. You feel like it fuels you. Yeah. You give it that firepower, that adrenaline. Once I say, bow, it's all gone, though. Yeah. That amount of nervousness, has that fluctuated over the years? Has it just always been pretty even? Are you more nervous or less nervous than you used to be? It's vice versa. It comes, it comes out. A little bit of friendship. Has that fluctuated over the years? Has it just always been pretty even? Are you more nervous or less nervous than you used to be? It's vice versa. It comes, it comes out.

A little bit of friendship. Yeah, I got that. I didn't know you were going to throw that in there. A little bit of that. You know, this minute you feel super nervous. But when you're fit and ready, a little bit of nervous, and you just want to go. I'd imagine, and you can explain this. this actually i would love for you to explain this like that you more or less know every single step of the race like you know every component like it's all broken

down into phases and like and you know like you know if you had a good start versus good middle of the race versus like a good finish and all these things um as you're crossing the finish line do you know fuck yeah i just broke a record like that was the fastest i've ever gone or is it hard to tell and you gotta look at the clock and oh i did it like where are you at as far as like really knowing how fast you're going if especially if there's no one running next to you and i will say come see come so again but you can know when you get a good start you can know when time you come out of that start and you transition into a great transition and you can know some of the time you can feel that good feeling you can feel

because a majority of the time in the race i'm thinking as well trust me yeah you have time to think and when you cross that line you you know something that is fast or you can look at the clock like a quick glimpse and and see that yeah damn you were going very fast when i run the second fastest time in the 200 i didn't know i was going that fast when i look over to to the clock my eyes open this is the biggest my eyes ever been in my life you know so was that followed by the biggest smile you've ever had in your life? Were you just like so happy? Oh, my God. I was off the moon.

And that day I was sick as well. I had the flu. And the coach said to me, just take the corner pretty easy. Because I wasn't a good turn runner. And I just flew on. And straight away I just let it loose. What did you run the 200 in 1926 yeah I feel like I wasn't touching the ground what is your favorite moment in track and field like what was the memory that stands out I think is the 200 really or the 969 are the Olympics

are the world champions. Any time where thousands of people just erupt when they cross the line. And millions of people across the world. Yeah. What's that like? Like you just said, the crowd erupts.

What does that sound like when you're in a big stadium and they're all looking at you and then the big cheer comes from every single person at the exact same time? Is that dope? Yeah, I just loved it, man, especially winning the race. You can know that someone is coming tonight. The crowd starts getting louder. Ah!

Ah! And you're like, ah! Yeah, you try to keep it. The 100 is the one. Yeah, man. That's when the people light up. Everyone wants to see the fastest man in the world. It's the box office event,

you know? I think it's, I'm going to go out on a limb and say at the Olympics, it's the number one. It's the one I care about the most.

Of all the, and that's, man, I can't believe I said that. I'm going to have some athletes going to be mad at me. No, no.

No, you're right. It's the one event, even weightlifting, God bless all my athletes who are going to make the Olympics, but it's that one moment and you can see it. But it's that one moment.

You can see it. Always the arena is filled. I mean, the camera is going off. We've all seen it. I mean, it's just the electric moment. You know why I agree with you? Yeah. You have to wait four years for that event.

Four years. Nine seconds. Of your life. And all kinds of things can happen in that four years each every year i've been to two olympics and i have to wait four years for every olympic yeah it's not easy yeah that's why i agree with you yeah i guess when you also think about that much time how does your training and like even you in the mental space, I imagine your focus is even more dialed in today than it was three years ago in the year following the Olympics. Kind of what is that progression for you?

Because that buildup is, I mean, dude, that race is insane. Well, you have distractions. I use, like, World Championship, the Commonwealth, different games as distraction. So you don't pay the Olympics any mind until that time. Knowing the fuck in the back of your head subconsciously, the Olympics is there. Right. But you have Diamond League, the World Challenge to just run and to just keep you distracted.

Yeah, exactly. From thinking about the craziness. That big moment. So that four years just went by. Nine seconds. Four years. Nine and a half. All right. Four more. Pack it four years just went by. Nine seconds. Four years. Nine and a half. All right.

Four more. Pack it up. Pack it up. How many Olympics have you been to? I've been to two Olympics. Well, I should have been to three, but, you know, I was young and everything. Yeah. So now this coming up will be your third.

Yeah. Did you medal in both or just the second one? I just medaled in one. Well, both. And then the other one, I was struggling back from injury, but it was really good for me to make it back to the Olympics, though, because it's a big show. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm hoping to find out. So, yeah. Go ahead. Have you been able to, you know, you told the story about growing up in a single room with seven people. Have you been able to help out your family at this point? That's what I live for.

I'm the breadwinner in the family. And that's the first thing I do. I bought my mom a house. I said, listen, this is for you. Because my mom and my father, they are together up to today. Thank God. They have just been a rock together. So I bought them a house. know they have just been i rock together you know um so i bought them a house and they're just living and i just support them that's that's why i have to run every day

and make sure that everything is good you know and just make sure they're all right and they are i mean that's got to be a good feeling too for you the son like i mean obviously if my mom was in that situation i was able to buy her you know a nice house that would make me feel very accomplished and like i would thank god you know for all the gifts he's given me i'm sure he was saying yeah man definitely each and every day i thank god for that wonderful gift because that moment in time when i was in that room and i sit with the ceiling falling out and i said father i need something fast. He answered, man. He did answer.

He made you fast. He did. He gave you a little extra. Up to today, my father said he was the one with the speed. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, I really enjoyed you coming on tonight. No problem.

Thanks for having me. It's a little bit deeper conversation than we're used to having. Yeah. It was good. Yeah, it's a part of my life, you know, to share with you and to just let others know out there that it's not easy. You know, sometimes you have to step out of your comfort zone. Right. You know, I always say to myself, if you want to be somebody, if you want to go somebody if you want to go somewhere you have to wake up you have to pay attention well it's not

just come by sitting and lying down and so what if if if you say if I F it's always come last in life if I didn't know what if oh, now. That's the word to use now. Not if. If always come last in life. So just know that. You obviously didn't use if. I'm pretty sure you've used a lot of nows. Right now.

When, where, oh far. Right now. Right now. Right on. Well, we are here as a part of the Stronger Experts Project, or Project Stronger Jamaica. Is there anything that you, just working with them, being a part of this, kind of coming into the house for dinner

and being on the microphone, super appreciative. Is there anything that you'd like to kind of promote your charity or your foundation? I would just want them to just check out the Why Be Af afraid foundation or we're changing a lot of life right now each kid when they reach at a certain age we send them to France all over the world to England you know to pursue their whatever they want you know so we have our contract with with England and with France. Right now, one friend's studying.

So that's what we're doing with Richard Mille. So there's not much to say but just encourage each and everyone. Is there a website? Yeah, the YBAfreed.com. And I just want to encourage the people out there, as long as you have life, you can fly. Don't tell yourself that you can't. Just a little bit of belief.

Yeah. You can do anything you want to do. You can be anything or anybody that you want to be. Right. The billionaires, the fastest man, the fastest woman, there was once a young man, there was once a young woman. Just take a little bit of hard work and dedication. Yeah. That's once a young woman. I was once a young woman. It just takes a little bit of hard work and dedication. That's awesome. Travis Mash.

WhyBeAfraid.com Doug Larson. Well, now I feel like an asshole promoting my own thing. Right? I'm Travis. I'm Anders Varner. That's Doug Larson. Travis Mash. Thank you so much, Johan Blake. This is, man, I literally raced the fastest man in the world today. I don't know how we were all so lucky to be able to be a part of this trip,

which has been phenomenal. Being able to hang out with you for most of today was just kind of icing on the cake. And this interview was fantastic. So I appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you, fellas. I think we'll remember and talk about this one for a little while. You bet. We'll see you guys next week.

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