Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - 2024 NHL Free Agency Recap | FN Barn Burner - July 2nd, 2024

Episode Date: July 2, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:11 Well, hello and welcome back to the program. It is Barnburner here in July. I was thinking we can do rabbit rabbit, but it's kind of, you know, stretching it there. Do you really think that we didn't say anything else? How was your Canada Day? Are you still celebrate being that you're a Yankee-Doodled Andy now?
Starting point is 00:00:28 I'm a huge Canada Day guy. Are you? Massive. Yeah. Massive. It appears as though you celebrated by growing a mustache. Yeah, I had the gross, ugly beard and I've slowly been chopping away at it.
Starting point is 00:00:44 And I was going to continue and have the stash maybe for stampede. Because I wondered, I wonder what was going on. Is it, have you just gotten really gray in these? Oh, there's a lot of spots. Yeah, that it's not gray. But this is by design. What we're looking at here. This has been carved and crafted.
Starting point is 00:01:06 Nice. Looks pretty good, buddy. Looks pretty good. How does the shoveler, you know, feel about it. Oh, so pumped. She's excited for it. Of course, she would be.
Starting point is 00:01:18 So did you do it? What'd you do? What'd you do? What'd you do some pizza? I went to do some pizza. I had to work on my dock. My dock was all contorted and. Did you trim the hedges around your dock?
Starting point is 00:01:30 Because I hear it makes it look bigger. I didn't know. That's all I did that weeks ago. Yeah. That's a full-time job. Anything I can do that talk. At least the Maryland bigger. dog maintenance
Starting point is 00:01:43 some dock maintenance is right oh jacky boy how we doing you are truly a kind of a sort of Yankee doodle daddy do you care about Canada Day what'd you do I spent Canada Day hung over in my bed the rest of the weekend was fun though we were out in Camor for my stepbrother's wedding so lots of festivities and drinking
Starting point is 00:02:03 it was fun yeah Canada Day was I do they said it did they go through it yes they did it's terrible idea terrible idea. So step brother. Are you like, uh, like, do you guys hang out like in the movie? No, but I do with my other step brother. I have three step brothers. I live with one of them. We, we, we kind of have that relationship. This is the older one though. Yeah. Bunk beds.
Starting point is 00:02:30 Bunk beds. Hang out bag. Putting your bag on his drum kit or whatever it is. It's not, it's been a while since I've seen it in it. I knew there was a, a pouch and, drum kit involved. I'm not sure if the, the two actually met up. But, well, that's good. I'm glad. I spent, I spent Canada Day on the, on the old, the road. Coming back from
Starting point is 00:02:52 Manitoba, Sask, yesterday. The, uh, the AC and the old rig decided, well, we're not going to work today. We're just going to take the day off. Really? Got a little sweltering, a little sweaty in the old pickup. And then, uh, stop for a leak, turn it back on. Oh, now you're going to work. So, probably just should have tried that as soon as it stopped working. But a very adventurous time was out.
Starting point is 00:03:19 I was talking about yesterday the guy that doesn't do anything. I don't know if we're ready for it, Jack. I don't want to call for it. Are we good to go? 30 seconds. All right. But I actually did go and do something on the weekend. Went back to Manitoba.
Starting point is 00:03:36 We had a little shin diggy type of a thing on Saturday. And then on Sunday, went to the, used to go all the time. It was every summer. It was the highlight of summer. Go to Doffin's Country Fest, which is kind of like your Craven, the Big Valley Jamberie. They still have that in Camrose, I believe. Camrose still does the Big Valley Jamboree.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Craven. Crayven. How there's country thunders that are doing their thing, essentially your outdoor, country music festival. And unlike some of them, where it's just a patch of ground, put the grand stand or whatever they call at the stage and that and you sit in your lawn chairs or you sit around. This is at the Selah, Ukraine in Dauphin. It's a very, a lot of Dauphin. It's a Ukrainian influence. A lot of people, I guess, you know, settled there, made their homes and
Starting point is 00:04:30 their lives there. And they had the Dauphin, the Ukrainian festival, which Canada's biggest, the world's biggest, I don't know. But they built this. sort of an amphitheater where there was a hill and they dug into it. They scooped a bunch of the dirt out and then fanned out seating. And going back to the early 90s, late 80s, early 90s, they started bringing in, well, there's some music festivals and it got bigger and bigger and bigger. And then you had some of the biggest country music stars and all of country music coming through every Canada day long weekend.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Now, it's kind of tailed off a little bit as things do. Things get expensive. things change. But they had a celebration of the past this weekend. They brought back a bunch of the old classics. Now, I wasn't able to get there on Saturday. Alabama was there. Baby.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Their reviews are not glowing. Getting up there. The old, the lead singer there. Sounds like he's in the mid to late 70s. Some can pull it off. It sounds like maybe Randy Owen can't. it's uh he's got a bit of the Biden thing going I was going to say him and Joe they got to get together they're not in a hurry to get things done I guess you could say uh but so we didn't see that one
Starting point is 00:05:54 but I'll tell you what we saw it was it was kind of the shits uh Sunday I was looking forward to it Mark chestnut was going to be one of the the final three obviously not headliners because they're only to be one but then he uh I guess had a little issue with his ticker or something, you know, as we get older, I guess. Not ideal. That's a sign of, yeah, that maybe they went really far back. Maybe too far back. I don't know how I, now listen, not joking.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Hey, Mark, if you're, and I'm sure you're watching. Tees and peas, bud. Get well, be well. I was almost more looking forward to Mark Chestnut than any of the others that we were going to see on Sunday. But what do you do? What are you going to do? So the Country Fest, folks,
Starting point is 00:06:40 they needed to find a replacement. And the replacement that they, I'm like, okay, who's it going to be? Maybe it'll be somebody else that I'm very excited to see. It's not nice to talk shitty about people. Hey, rat, we don't like to do that. Oh, never do it. Don't do it. Don't like doing it.
Starting point is 00:06:59 They brought in George Fox from Cochran, Alberta. Oh, did I know George Fox? Yeah, you probably would. he was Canadian country music artist had songs on the radio I won't call them hits because I'm not sure that would be fair to hits
Starting point is 00:07:28 I said to my wife I said I wonder I'd love to know I'd love to get a little bit behind the scenes and wonder how many phone calls were made before they got to George Foxx Hi we were wondering if you I'm busy Can't do it. Nope sorry how much Nope not enough what are we doing how are we going
Starting point is 00:07:46 No sorry no can do George had a had a rough set keeping the guitar in tune you know that's sort of Bing, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, you usually have a guitar tech, a guy in the back
Starting point is 00:08:07 who's got two or three other guitars that he's constantly tuning and make if you need it. So that's here, take this guitar, give me the one that's in tune so that you keep the show rolling and you don't have to Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, dang, dang, dang, dang. George thought he was on his couch. Jesus Christ, George. Let's get it together.
Starting point is 00:08:26 George is. Oh, he looks deadly. We're in tear on my heart. Yeah, so there he is. Again, I don't like to talk shitty about George. He came in and he's telling. He did his damnedest. He did his damn best, you know?
Starting point is 00:08:46 So who the hell am I to sit here? You weren't up there were you? I wasn't doing it. Dang, ding, ding, dang, dang. I could have maybe tuned the guitar. That's right. Could have stood in the wings. Maybe you should have contributed instead of sitting back criticizing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Christ, have you only got one guitar? Like, even I've got more than that. Let's go. Tune this shit up. However, the next one up there. And this, I was also looking forward to seeing her. I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen her. I think maybe once, but it's obviously been years ago.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Jody Messina Redrow. She got some GD bangers and a little Heads Carolina. Tales, California. She brought the house down. She was a beaut. Take a look. Let's go to Dauphin. I plant the seed retro.
Starting point is 00:10:05 There was that also. Jody Mucina is going to be in Regina. She's doing Craven and I think is doing cameras. If you get an opportunity, take it. She was friggin' awesome. Her voice is great. She had fun with the crowd and bang her after banger, bye, bye, baby, bye, bye, we had a hell of a good time. And then the headliners, the headliners came out and I knew, it's like you were there with me with your mustache.
Starting point is 00:10:35 If you had a mustache and a couple whiskeys sitting up there, take a look at your headliners from Sunday night. And you're retro, still a G.D. Bangor. One of the best. a hell of a night. Is that a great setup or what? That is pretty sweet, actually. It's all, because it's all, you're in an amphitheater. It's an amphitheater, dear.
Starting point is 00:11:57 So you're in no shitty seats, you're all, hell of a good time. Clint Black was there Friday, Alabama, there were some others, a Diamond Rio was there. Any fights? Not that I saw, you know what? Lovers, not fighters, they're at least on Sunday. But that was, uh, there were a lot of, of people waiting for fishing in the dark.
Starting point is 00:12:18 I did Cadillac Ranch, I think in the near the end with the encore. Yeah. I'm working man. Look like the weather cooperated. Oh, it was a great day. It was a perfect day. Blue skies everywhere. 25-ish, 24, 25.
Starting point is 00:12:36 Cooled off just enough at night so you weren't, crazy. But it was a banger. So now I feel like I loved it. I was going for Stampede. Let's keep the momentum going. Are we going? What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:12:50 doing. Who's playing? Let's go. Let's go. I have no clue. Somebody asked me that. Anyone big coming? Probably a Dr. Dre or something like that. Anyway, it's a sports show, they say. You want to get into it? Because yesterday was not only Canada Day, they had some signings. It was that. I tried to get into it on Friday night and it didn't get into it. No, I, no, that's right. You did try to get into it. What happen. What's going on? I could either hear or I could speak, but I couldn't. And then the video, I think the video I'd have been okay with, but it was one or the other. I couldn't accomplish both at the same time. That's right. Yeah, we were, uh, we were doing the draft show on Friday as the,
Starting point is 00:13:43 we're doing whatever you want to call it draft watch party. Anyway, the draft was on and we were talking about the draft as it was happening. And the flame, names did not get tea you should get no those dirty dirty dirty Utah coyotes the damn hockey club yeah swung in there and just scooped them up before they even had a chance didn't even have a chance couldn't even pass if they wanted to there was no opportunity to all the humming and hawn that we did it was all for not it was all for not the hand ringing waste of time in it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Is he going to be able to handle the pressure? What's dad going to do? Is he going to be able to hang it? Don't matter. None of it matters. And we tried to get red in. His face showed up and then we brought him on to the thing and, he went away.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And then you'd come back in and we couldn't see you. Well, RJ threw me out there and I thought I was all set to go. And then I realized, oh, yeah, I didn't test. I started talking and there's nothing or hearing. Yeah. Yeah, it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And being the committed fellow that I am, I spent a lot of time working on it.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Really stuck with it to troubleshoot, eh? Yeah. Yeah, on a Friday night. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This isn't working. All right.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Yeah. And you guys were doing a fine job. So, draft show was a banger boomer. That was awesome. Yeah, we had fun. I had, uh, had about four or five beers over the course of the, uh, of the process, which I found helped.
Starting point is 00:15:20 We should try that on this thing. That's not a bad idea. Just round off the edges a little bit, have some giggles. Doesn't have to be a Christmas spectacular. Yeah, it doesn't quite need to be that. But so the flames get a high octane defenseman at the nine spot. Zane Parack, lots of points, lots of skill. Not overly big, but you don't need to be anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:15:49 Fast. It's great. CHL D man of the year and super smart. Like us, Red, super smart. What reference to? Like, has been taken, finished college two years, or finished high school two years early. Yeah, there's a lot of that cheap going on.
Starting point is 00:16:12 He, uh, been taking university. Yeah, they do that online shit. like since he's 15. Is that how it is? Well, Zane, we don't give a shit. That's great, nerd. Oh, that's more points, Zane. Just get some points, all right? Just let's, let's work on our, let's work on those tomahawk, the skating drill and let's get. Mohawk. Is that what it is? Crosby. Can't use that anymore.
Starting point is 00:16:39 So yeah, they get a dynamic, dynamic, highly skilled defense. and, you know, should it have been Z. William, should it have been somebody else? How do you know? How do you know? You know, about six years. Yeah. So just stay right here.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Talk amongst yourselves. And we'll let you know in about six years as to whether the pick was a good one or who they should have taken or any of that. I'll tell you what, though. A lot of the draft experts, the people that really focus on it. really like what Craig Conroy and the Flames did this weekend. Really high praise for the skill and smarts and just overall. Don't worry about how big they are. Don't worry about can the 200 foot game, all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Get them in. Get them in. Get the hockey players. Get the guys who are really good hockey players. And then we'll craft them and take a look at them. So there you see. Perak goes at 9. Matt Vague
Starting point is 00:17:45 Greedin at number 28 leading score of the USHL Andrew Bashia he's Calgary Kid Medicine Hat Tiger My kid says I was in a camp with that guy
Starting point is 00:17:59 He's a dick Like perfect That's who you want That's who you need That's who you need No he was saying He remembered being in I Was a Mount Royal Camp
Starting point is 00:18:09 Or a hip and thing Anyway So Bascha who a lot of people we're kind of maybe at 28 take basha bash at 28 got about 41 so feels like uh good value jacobitaglia henry muske is that bates boy it's got to be right that's it i was thinking yeah space boy uh and then you go down the list and people very excited about luke misa Trevor hosk anyway we shall see and not again we don't like the shit talk anyone but are we excited about the 150th pick
Starting point is 00:18:43 Some are. Okay. Some really are. But they like, they just like the skill level of these guys where you're not this big body, bit of a, and maybe they are, you know, a project or whatever, that they're not going to, uh, um,
Starting point is 00:19:01 come out and say that anyway. But no, uh, we really think that down the road this is going to be this type of player. Just take good players, man. Just take good players. Didn't outthink everybody else. don't try to be too smart. Let's take good players,
Starting point is 00:19:17 which again, shouldn't be that hard, really, when you think about it. I sure hope they're good players, if you think about it, if the players aren't good players, this retool, as they're describing it, really extends. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Right? It's deep. It gets real long and slow and arduous. Yeah. if these some of these picks aren't real good that's right uh can is back in henry mus was a steel so there you go steel a steel and i know people are saying a betagli isn't in any relationship to bates i'm calling bullshit that's he's got to be how do freaking betagli's oh it's no bates betagli used to play with the uh confug of carolada hurricanes uh no relation to uh to this
Starting point is 00:20:12 Oh, come on. Please. Come on. Bullshit. That's what I'm calling. I'm calling bullshit. Anyway, so congrats. Hey, congrats to Craig Conroy and all the boys, the old TB in there and all whoever else, the scouts.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Who else is scouting for him? Alistair? Sure. Well done, boys. Well done. they said so look I'm not debating whether or not they said so I know they said he's not related
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'm still saying bullshit I'm not saying bullshit to the guy in the chat I'm saying bullshit to the Bataglias because they're a bunch of bullshitters I'm sure you went to now is he is he any relation to Bates Pataglia no no no no no no not related at all not related I'm not saying look you know what they were kind of
Starting point is 00:21:09 I think the Bataglia is a bunch of Carnies and a bunch of liars? They couldn't trust them. Didn't they do that amazing race or whatever? Sure. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Can't trust them. They're always trying to, very slippery. The bedegging around in that amazing race from city to city. Yeah. Sleeping at night?
Starting point is 00:21:29 I'd watch my wallet around these bataglias if I were you. I would be just super, super careful. Now that was Friday, Saturday. Then there was Sunday.
Starting point is 00:21:39 Wait, can I stop though? Like is there one of those, you know, when we do our NFL fantasy draft rankings? Mm-hmm. The flames get a draft ranking? Like, is this something that I should have looked up? They like a C-plus? I think that's my size I've ever got with my robopicks. Yeah, I've never really, yeah, because when you go into the into Yahoo and you do your fantasy football.
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah. At the end, the old computer generator puts out a little, you're a clown. Yeah. Yeah. No, I think I didn't see, but then again, I don't really. I got you. How the fuck are. Kids are six years. We'll do a, we'll do it.
Starting point is 00:22:20 Six years we'll do a ranking. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So that happened on Friday. Yeah. Saturday. And then they took the other rolls to.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That's right. That's right. That's right. That for a few kids. Did you? Been in that spot myself. They can maybe on the first round, right on the cost. shit yeah into Vegas don't even get to go up on stage yeah better for you all those kids
Starting point is 00:22:48 early second better spot to be is it i think so it might be a little bit different now but those teams are typically the teams that are looking to get the youth into the let's get you in yes rather than send you down to the to the rather than being an oilers and signing gory perry yeah Another year. I've been drafted by the Oilers. They just signed a bunch of 30, 32, 35 year old guys. Not idea. We'll talk about, we'll talk with them in a bit.
Starting point is 00:23:20 So yeah, then a day of rest for Craig on Sunday, although pretty clear, there's the, there's some serious tampering involved, eh? Because then free agency opens. And within nine minutes, teams have eight, seven years, like seven year deals,
Starting point is 00:23:39 five years, all this kind of hammered out. Amazing work they must be able to do behind the walls of these NHL offices. They really understand the market and the players and what they're looking for. Yeah, yeah. It's, uh, you couldn't sell a friggin used car in the amount of time that they're
Starting point is 00:23:57 putting together 50 million dollar deals, but nonetheless, I mean, whatever. Um, so what did the flames do for, uh, well, we can walk through it. And then what we'll do is for the,
Starting point is 00:24:09 the old Pinder report. We'll walk you through some of the other ones because there was a lot of things going on. There's a lot of things going on. We'll make sure. Busy, busy week. Lots of things going on. We'll do it for McLeod Law. It's our opening statements today.
Starting point is 00:24:22 McLeod Law, just because it's summer, doesn't mean, oh, I don't need a lawyer now. My legal issues, there's nothing that could come up between July and Labor Day. Things happen. Maybe you need some legal assistance. Maybe you need some legal advice. Peter Klein, personal injury guy. Did you know he's the go-to guy in Calgary for your disability insurance claim? Shane King, partner in the litigation and dispute resolution group.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Employee rights, if you've been laid off or terminated, whatever it is that you need. McLeod law, Calgary based, proud of their Calgary roots, and Calgarians themselves. You're not getting some Vancouver, Toronto law firm trying to come in and pretend like they know you and know what your needs are. challenge whether it's business or personal they're in it with you mcclough dash law.com so the flames a few different things obviously there's but i think maybe at the top the tippy top because now we had said at least i had kind of said hey if you're looking for the flames to be big participants on july one you're off your rocker don't you don't need to pay attention craig should just take the day off there's nothing to be done.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I think they made seven moves yesterday, something like that. It's like seven. Anyway, right at the tippy top, Yigore Sharon Govich, retro, he's going to be around for a little while. Five year contract extension, $5.75 million per season.
Starting point is 00:25:58 He, of course, came over, along with a third round pick in the Tyler to Foley deal. 31 goals, 59 points over 82 games. Not too shabby to have, if you want to flirt with 30,
Starting point is 00:26:12 you get 30 every year for 5.75 million. That is a hell of a deal. So good for him and good for the team. Very nice for the team. Very nice. I think it's good. I like how he plays. Pinder keeps saying that he can't be a center.
Starting point is 00:26:29 I don't agree, but regardless, I think he's a good fit. This would be a good day to have these conversations when Ryan's not here just to, like just blindly. Yeah, just pound you over the head with. Just blindly disagree without listening to you. He got a little obnoxious the other night. I won't lie to you.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh, dear. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My wasn't going to be wrong. One of those types of, no, obnoxious. Yeah. It's just you are, you are not going to be able to convince him in any way, shape, or form about why Jake Debrusk would
Starting point is 00:27:01 maybe be a decent option for the flames. Now, it wasn't having any of it. It would be terrible. Somebody had told them or he'd have thought of it and then it was just a shitty, shitty idea. Yeah. Mike Gold brought it up and it was just,
Starting point is 00:27:15 the facial expressions even, like it was really, it was hitting right. There's a lot of that. So then gold would kind of go into detail. No, I'm not saying that this is the perfect signing, in this
Starting point is 00:27:32 so regardless and in the end it didn't happen so we don't need to worry about it yeah we don't need to have seven years of that happening
Starting point is 00:27:46 they did however they did do some other signings they did dip into the free agent pool they did find a winger and I'm guessing if Ryan were here today he may do a because Anthony
Starting point is 00:28:01 Mantha signs a one year year deal worth 3.5 million. Now, he would say the term is key, whatever. It's a one year deal. 652.14 does not play big. Is big. Does not play big. Um, last year between Washington and Vegas, 23 goals and 44 points over 74 games. I kind of thought he'd be a sneaky good ad for Vegas at the deadline because he is a guy that can get around to go. He can. Yeah. Right. You can. Pots some some dirty, dirty goals maybe potentially, but it did not happen.
Starting point is 00:28:37 He did not get anything done. So left shot winger can play either side. This feels like one of those can't find the deal that he's really excited about. Where can I go and play a bunch and get some prime situational play? You're probably going to get into that top six. If you're okay in Calgary, they'll find some room for you somewhere. You're going to get some power play time.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Not every team's going to be able to do that for you. Put up some numbers and maybe next year. you get something closer to the deal that you're going to be excited about. Again, another good signing, I think, because it's, there's no downside. It's, they're not worried about dough because they have all kinds of dough and it's a one year deal. And if he's having a hell of a year, what are you doing with them at the trade deadline? True. Could you, could you, could you?
Starting point is 00:29:28 Exactly. Put him in a spot to get some points to get some goals and then be an option. 25 by the trade deadline. and then we'll move you for a first. It would be correct. Yes. Yes. They're probably all on the same page.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I would think if that were the case. Also, if Ryan were here, he would be, he'd be saying over and over again, the Lamborghini, because he loves saying it. Loves to say that. Yeah, loves to say it.
Starting point is 00:29:54 When you bring up Kevin Shatt and Kirk, he'll tell you shat doces. There's just things that immediately trigger him. Ryan Lomberg is the Lamborghini. He's 29. signed a two-year deal with the flames. Now, if you're familiar, if you're like, I feel like I know this guy.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Well, he did win the Stanley Cup just a couple weeks ago or a week and a half ago. But he also was a flame for a number of years. Signed an AHL deal in 2015, spent a couple of years with the heats down in Stockton. Would you have seen him? Some lots. Trips down there, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Then signed an NHL deal. Seven games in 1718, four games in 1819, but is no stranger to the flames, the flames organization. He's, uh, agitator, shit disturber. Mm-hmm. Got his ass handed to him by that big
Starting point is 00:30:42 bastard in Long Island. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, was that Johnston? Yeah. Don't fight Ross Johnston. You don't have the reach, son. You don't. The heart's willing, but don't.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I like how he plays. I never understood why they let him go. He's the kind of guy that you need and could throw on your fourth line and create some energy. And I like the idea of bringing him back because if he'd, does play that way, the rest of them can't glide through the season. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:10 Like he's going to be a drinkster. He's going to drag the other guys in because he, that's how he has to play. Yeah. I guess he could be sitting on his fat wallet now and Stanley Cup ring and stop playing that way, but I don't think he will. It is, and
Starting point is 00:31:26 I'll be honest, it is a little fat. Two years. Doesn't matter. Two million per. Yep. For the lomba game. A Lamborghini. But again, I think that's exactly what Conroy is thinking. He goes, you know, if you're looking at the lineup and you're going, okay, all these guys here are hoping to have good years and they're professional and this and that,
Starting point is 00:31:47 but writing is a little bit on the wall that maybe we're not going to be right in the mix as far as Stanley Cup finals are concerned. But we're going to so if we're struggling, where's the energy going to come from? You don't want to end up like San Jose 10 games in and it's like, oh, God. what a disaster ride we have the rest of the way. Lomburg is going to bring some energy to the building. He's not a deterrent or an intimidator in any way, right? Yeah, but he's just, he's a guy that's going to bring some energy pretty much every night.
Starting point is 00:32:21 And he, like he had said yesterday, he kind of had a funny feeling about the flames that he wondered if it was going to be Calgary coming in. So good for him. I mean, here's a guy that parlayed, a decent little NHL career here out of just about nothing because he's not overly big.
Starting point is 00:32:40 He's certainly not skilled. It's just his work ethic, his attitude, and his heart that have got him a Stanley Cup ring. And he's been in the, he's been a full-time NHLer. He spent four years in Florida,
Starting point is 00:32:52 played all 82 games last year, got into 75 of the minors. Yeah. So good for him. Good for him. Coming back to Calgary, fans will like him. He's a fan favorite.
Starting point is 00:33:03 fan favorite now the the uh the oliver shillington thing it's um just does not seem like it's uh going to happen i don't know where to go with my thoughts on this so i'll just go with my gut and say if you don't want to be here get out of here yeah i guess so you've been given you've been given the opportunity the team has supported you i can't imagine they're trying to stick it to him and even if they what's if you're him what's your interpretation of having it's getting it stuck to you you know what I mean like what do you think they're offering him less than he made last year or what about the year that he didn't play and collected yeah is he making less than that probably not I think there's a and again if we don't we don't know it by but this is just my
Starting point is 00:33:56 expectation is that it would be the same if not a little bit more and the team is done right by this guy and this guy highly touted goes later draft spends some time in the minors finds his way on the season where we didn't think he was going to be even noticed and all of a sudden you're like Jesus I love how this guy's playing everyone's pulling for him everything's going good and then he has that year off where things aren't going well personally but the flames stick with them the fans stick with them he comes back last year gets in some games is a player who would be given a ton of opportunity that this year just like mantha have a big year like i don't think the flames want him to fail
Starting point is 00:34:40 i don't think they're trying to hold them back come prove it we're got to know that you're going to be here and be able to do it and he he really hasn't done it and if he's expecting to get a ton of dough and he maybe can get it somewhere else i guess that's his prerogative it just feels wrong to me after what the flames and how they treated them when they needed when he needed them yeah and it's it comes down to business, of course, right? Yeah, it does come down to business, but the business isn't such that he doesn't have an offer here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Right? He probably, you know, and he probably feels like I don't need to do any more short-term deals. I don't need to do one to two-year things. I want some term. Whereas the flames, right, listen, just strip it away. We just, we just lost you for a full season. so for us to go in on a five year, four year, six year pact or whatever, it's hard to have, not even faith, but it's just, it's just, it's not smart to go in
Starting point is 00:35:42 when we know, hasn't been that good, hasn't been that good and missed the year and and and. So can things circle back around? Perhaps they've got room for D, they've got plenty of cap, but it does feel like one of those things where he's he's committed to moving on and the flames have done have given their best offer you don't don't don't go add to it now because they do go out and i mean it's just i guess final note on on shillington is now you've seen a lot of teams spend their dough he's not a he's not an eight million dollar guy so there's teams that could afford them but i am curious to see if the next day or two or three pass so what's so now yeah what are you getting
Starting point is 00:36:26 from somewhere else. Yeah, are you maybe as attractive as you maybe thought you were because the league has kind of spoken. I mean, whatever. We'll see how it goes. We'll see how that goes. But the flames pretty much knowing that he was going to be leaving, they're already thin on D.
Starting point is 00:36:42 They signed Jake Bean, a former first rounder, a two-year deal, 1.75 million per with the formerly of the Columbus Blue Jackets was drafted by Carolina. He is the son of current Calgary Sports and Entertainment Corps. vice chairman John Bean. I don't know if you knew that. Trivia. Wow, your friends at Wings today with that one. Left shot, 6-1-176, played for the hitman with his junior, and it was a 2016.
Starting point is 00:37:14 176. That's what it says here. That's pretty slight, isn't it? Slender. You know what it is, right? It's huge anymore, but 175 is a six, over six feet. Fit. Okay.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Good. So fit. Good. His body mass. Indic. The DMI is wonderful. Great BMI. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:41 1947 NHL games between the Carolina Hurricanes and the Blue Jackets. It was traded for a second rounder in 2021 off season. Couldn't break through in Carolina, but they're deep, eh? At D, or at least they were back then, Carolina really strong on the blue line. Now, Columbus, maybe. you just not everybody flourishes in Columbus doesn't seem to have you know the potting soil is not that's right not everybody goes to Columbus and watches their career just explode this guy was born to be a blue jacket I don't know what else to tell you that didn't happen anyway uh you know
Starting point is 00:38:25 it's uh defty hey I like the guys kids that are wanting to be here go ahead let them play it's from family tie the whole thing wants to be here come on and play and you probably may be able to play a little bit just there he is hopefully the old man's not down in the coach yeah see they're it's saying one ninety one so i don't know makes one 76 is pretty light we'll do some fact checking with the flames nation statistical department but i believe that came from yeah it doesn't matter howdy boy jake good to see you pal 26 years of age just entering his prime retro. Think about you at 26.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Oh, hey, right? New to pass. It's best yet to come. Yeah. Some other minor league stuff, Martin Furk, who was a Detroit Red Wing at one time,
Starting point is 00:39:25 and also he was an Alan Walsh client. So if you follow Alan Walsh on Twitter, you'd know a lot about Martin Firk. Justin Kirkland, but another guy coming in, what are they doing in net? Are they going to look for some depth goaltending? They sign Devin.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Cooley. Two-year deal. First year... The rabbit man? WTF. Why that face? The rabbit man? Is he the rat? What's the rabbit man? I saw something today. I thought it was Devon Cooley with a rabbit.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Hugging a rabbit with a flames jacket on the rabbit. Check the Twitters. Two-year deal. First year. one way deal. Oh. Is this not a second year two? I thought it was the other way around.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Anyway, it's a two year deal for Cooley. Now this guy's got some size. He's six five. BMA. Played in the USHL, University of Denver, then goes to the American Hockey League with the San Jose farm team. Splint last year he was a saber for a short amount of time.
Starting point is 00:40:35 And then went to San Jose. Not a lot of guys go to San Jose as far as goal tenders and put up. great numbers. So don't judge old Devin Cooley. Oh, rabbit rabbit. Uh, there it is. Is that a real rabbit? That's a rabbit from what I can tell. Tiz. Well, maybe he's got kids, eh?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Maybe kids got a. Okay, but if he's got kids, why don't have the kids in the picture instead of the rabbit? It's fine. Do your own thing. I just thought it was interesting. So here's a guy, right, that's going to be able to, uh, he's going to be able to play for the heats. He's going to be able to play for the flames when they need him, if they need him, right? If Vladar isn't ready, if Ladar has issues with his lingering issues
Starting point is 00:41:28 with his injury and rehabbing and coming back from that. And then the following year, depending on what happens with Dan Vladar, he'll be a free agent. Cooley will have a contract. You could maybe have a Wolf Cooley tandem in two years. he may never play a game for the flames. It's hard to say.
Starting point is 00:41:50 But a lot has happened. We don't have any clue of any of it's good or bad, but he was ready. I'll tell you, though, in the event he was going to sign a deal with the flames, he had that rabbit sweater ready. That's true. You want guys that want to be here.
Starting point is 00:42:08 He's like, I was in Buffalo, I played in Denver, I went to San Jose. I've been just waiting to break out this rabbit sweater. with the flaming sea on it. What a relief for the kid. The rabbit. Can you bring rabbits across the border?
Starting point is 00:42:27 Is that a? I don't know. He's a, he's a California guy too. I forget where exactly he's from. Las Sarcos or oh, anyway. So that's kind of,
Starting point is 00:42:39 that's kind of what we're looking at. Now they lost some guys. Your boy Dennis Gilbert went back to Buffalo. He's going to be a saber. AJ Greer, Greerzy, he gone. Yeah. Florida Panther two year deal.
Starting point is 00:42:52 T.J. Brody isn't coming back. What? No. We don't have D. Chicago Black Hawk. He's going to Chicago. Wow. Probably making too much money.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I think it was like 3.75. Really? Yeah. Oh, God. Yeah. But I will be honest. It's all still a little bit foggy because a lot happened yesterday. I was driving.
Starting point is 00:43:11 So I was away from any kind of, uh, and then I got home and I was so tired, red, because I did. Very tired. Long drive. I was fishing in the dark the night before on the cattle. Black Ranch and all that. Then I drove all the way across the prairies. And then, whew, I bet. Big boys got to have a nap.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Got have a nappy poo. I'm just glad you made it safe and sound, buddy. Thanks, bud. Feels good to be back. Yeah, it feels good. So that's the, that's the flame story. I would guess, goaltending done.
Starting point is 00:43:41 They add a winger. There's some potential trades, maybe that could take place. now Shane Pinto is a name. He's a guy 23 years old, a centerman with the Ottawa senators. He was the guy, I don't know if you remember, was, um,
Starting point is 00:44:00 he's a wascly Wabbit. He really is. Yeah, Times got hairy for him earlier this season. I think he was on his Betway account. Doing something anyway. It was kind of, it was implied and then, I guess, proven that he had been doing some online betting, some betting of some
Starting point is 00:44:21 nefarious activity. Yeah, some unsavory activity and behavior. Anyway, and we're all for it. Come on in. He's looking for a deal, has told, now Steve Steyo says, you guys are full of shit. He has not asked to be traded. Other people are saying, Shane Pinto wants out of there. He wants a deal. He can't get a deal. He doesn't want to be a Senate. Get him out of here. I wonder if Craig Conroy is sniffing around somebody like that, because there's a lot of needs because they are very close to having stripped it right down to the wood here. Since we last talk,
Starting point is 00:44:55 they also traded Manjapani. He's gone for a second round pick, which is... There's one thing I'm disappointed in. I think everything's going just smashingly for Craig, doing a great job until the season starts and they're no good. But I wish they'd use some of this cap space to eat some of the deals that were biots.
Starting point is 00:45:18 and I don't even know who, but I know there were buyouts, and you could have probably taken on those contracts and gotten something in return for them and used that cap space. It doesn't look to me like they're really going to do that. You can still take on, the thing about that was because Jack Campbell, right, he gets bought out in Edmonton, but he had a number of years left.
Starting point is 00:45:42 Skinner got certain circumstances. Yeah. I wouldn't say Skinner or Campbell, but there weren't there other guys that, and it still can happen. I'm sure there's still guys out there where you can help a team out by taking a contract. I think that as you get closer to opening night and teams need to get under that cap, you might still be able to.
Starting point is 00:46:01 But yeah, there was, there was a Jake Wallman deal where he was dealt and a second round pick went along with the player. And the players like, shit, maybe this guy could play for you and you get a pick. Anyway, maybe there's still that opportunity. But I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:46:16 I thought that maybe. we would see something there. But the Pinto one's interesting. You have plenty of cap space. You have plenty of draft. The problem with the Pinto one is, though, that you're going to have to give up to get him.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Yeah. You're not getting a player and a piece. But you're hoping you're getting a real good player. For sure. Right? He's 23. I'm fine with the Pinto deal. I'm just saying that I don't think that they, and again,
Starting point is 00:46:41 it can still be done. But I was hoping to see some, some cap. Yeah. gymnastics where they take on a guy because I've got plenty of spot defensemen forwards it's not like they the lineup is so set that you can't take a guy for two three years and so yeah who cares yeah yeah and pinto sure but pinto's a yeah let's get better fast and it's hard to say too these every every player wants something different if he's not happy in ottawa
Starting point is 00:47:12 what's to say he's going to be happy here the flames don't look like the flames are further away from winning than the senators seem to be right now. You don't, and you don't want guys that don't want to be here, especially when the team's potentially going to have some tough sled in here for a little bit. You start losing and you're grumpy to begin with. No good. Can't have it. Headaches.
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Starting point is 00:53:09 so we told you we got the flame story kind of taken care of Sharon Govich extension is probably the big news they bring in Anthony Manta on a one term
Starting point is 00:53:20 on a one year deal we'll see where he fits in he's a winger and Jake Pee in the defenseman comes in so those will be the immediate NHL guy you know
Starting point is 00:53:30 impact that we're going to see and we'll see what happens with Devin Cooley and his rabbit. Rabbit, rabbit. The Nashville Predators. How about Barry Trots and the Nashville Predators? Now, you can go on July 1, you can spend a bunch of dough. And like you say, everyone's going to say, you did great.
Starting point is 00:53:56 You did awesome. What do you make? I'll throw it out there because Stephen Stavkos, you have, you'd been really, you were on record, you had said, if I'm Tampa Bay, I'm not bringing them back. I'm not, I'm not giving them another long term big money deal. I'm not doing it. And they didn't.
Starting point is 00:54:15 They very much, Julian Breeze, well, I like Conroy and so many executives, listening to Barnburner, listening to Warner do his thing. Barry Trots goes four years, eight million per for Stephen Stamcoast to go to Nashville. They also had Jonathan Marshesau from the Vegas Golden Knights five years, 5.5 million per. defenseman Brady Shea he comes in and goes seven years,
Starting point is 00:54:38 seven million per. They were going to, it's like they're going to maybe trade Soros. They're not trading Soros. They signed him eight years. 7.74 million per. They got a backup in Scott Wedgwood. Alexander Carrier comes in as well.
Starting point is 00:54:54 So this is a team that already with Philip Forsberg and Roman Yosi and Soros, he's going to be there. You now add Stamco's and Marcia so and Shea what do you you didn't like Tampa Bay giving Stamcoast that money what do you think of Nashville giving them that money I don't in general I thought a lot of older guys got a lot of money on a lot of long term deals now the four years might not seem like terribly long but he's 34 correct yeah and I just I don't like I don't dislike it but I don't think you needed to do it
Starting point is 00:55:35 I think Nashville went from out of the playoffs, going to sell to one hell of a hot streak. And I think maybe that team jelled and they came together. And I think Burnett's a great coach. I just don't know why you want to go older in today's game. I don't like, you know, March or so, I think he's a really good player. And five, five and a half seems more appealing than an $8 million
Starting point is 00:55:59 dollar albatross because if Stamcoast ever slows down. Yeah. That's what you've got. Anyway, I'm not appalled at anything. I just, I feel like you're better off continuing to build than going and signing all these, especially the amount of players they brought in. Like one of the strengths of the Nashville team last year was the fact that they jelled and came together as a team. And all of a sudden they're playing really good hockey the second half the year.
Starting point is 00:56:29 What happens? I got six new guys in there. I don't know how, maybe it's not quite six, but it's a lot of big game, big personality, and maybe not even big personality, but key players that are going to take spots where other guys had been. You're not going to bring in stamp codes
Starting point is 00:56:46 and put them on a checking roll. So I don't know. They must feel like they're close if that's what they're going. I see both sides. I think the other part, part of it has to be. We see Dallas. You see it's the,
Starting point is 00:57:03 tax-free markets, right? That you come here, no one wanted to really be in Florida, but all of a sudden, hey, you know, it's tax-free and the weather's okay, and the team's really good, we like being in Florida. Nashville's never really got there.
Starting point is 00:57:16 They had Paul Korea, they had Peter Forsberg, right? Like there was, maybe there's subtraction, but it never, I think this is their, their stab at saying, look, players will come here,
Starting point is 00:57:28 we're a tax-free, we can be a good team, all that sort of thing. Does Marsha so sign if Stamco's also isn't there because they were teammates in Tampa Bay? I don't know. Marsha said they talked before he signed. I kind of get it. But at the same time, I'm with you.
Starting point is 00:57:49 These types of deals could age really poorly, really quickly. And again, I always go back to who knows them the best? Yeah, the teams are just Right? Like Breezeboa thought that that Stamco has had six good years left. Do you think he's letting him walk? Probably not.
Starting point is 00:58:12 I don't know. I just, again, I know what you're saying as well as about Nashville and it is a good tax situation and they might be finally trying to take a stab at it. I just don't ever see these teams that try and take these stabs ever. That's how they get successful.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Like what did Florida do? to elevate from where they were three, four years ago till what they're, I guess, Kachuk. But that's a trade. That's not a free agent signing. Like what teams in the last five years have made a free, maybe I'm crazy, maybe free agent, but who? I don't think.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah, it's generally not the, it's not usually the way to success. You can maybe add one piece like that defenseman, Shea, absolutely. Yeah. He's going to play good D and I'm okay with that. but to do a whole bunch of pieces, I just, I don't know. I don't.
Starting point is 00:59:10 All it takes is one long playoff run and it's all worth it, but I just don't know that I guess you may be Florida, say Bobrovsky. They've now, they also have a recent first round pick, Ashgarov, the goaltender, who has to be looking now. So you brought in Wedgwood for two years. You've signed Soros for eight. They're going to, you got to trade this guy.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And the word around the draft was they're going to want to top five. They want high-end prospect for this. Of course they do. I would like to have, you know, six-pack abs. Celebrini. These are not likely going to be happening anytime soon. Maybe. Chance.
Starting point is 00:59:49 I mean, we'll see. There's a lot. There is a lot to like there. Like you say, you like the coach. Barry Trots trying to get some things done as a GM. Everybody loves Barry Trots. It is a great town. They aren't terrible, but they have.
Starting point is 01:00:02 they've always had that kind of, we're good goal tent and good on D, but we don't really have a whole lot up front. We're not very explosive. Maybe they can be a team that feasts on a 30% power play and gets some wins, who knows? But they go and they spend some money to be sure. At the very least, four years for Stamco's,
Starting point is 01:00:23 yeah, still, he's, how old are you going to be when it's done? At least the term is not terrible. Now the lightning, they saved the Stamcoast money. they give all of it and more to Jake Gensel. They trade for his rights prior to July 1. They keep him seven years, $9 million per. That is all the money for Jake Gensel.
Starting point is 01:00:44 I like the player. I've talked to him. I love to have a guy like Jake Gensel. This guy plays hard. I thought he was okay. Good to okay for Carolina. But obviously wasn't enough to push them over the hump. But you're, yeah, you're running to get a pen.
Starting point is 01:01:01 when Tampa Bay says, how about seven times nine? Oh, God. Yeah. That's the 40 twice. That's the catch for me with the Stamco's thing. It's like, I'll, do I want Gensel at nine for seven years? Or do I want Stamcoast for less for four? Like, I don't know what it was being played out against each other.
Starting point is 01:01:22 I just don't know that Gensel's $9 million for me. That's like a Lydstrom, like the flames last year, not Lidstrom, Linstrom. Lindstrom. Does that sound right? Sure. Sure. That's like the flames, uh,
Starting point is 01:01:37 for lack of a better, we're caving to Lindstrom last year, last summer, saying, yeah, take it. We'll give it to you. I think Gensel might be a slightly better player, but is he nine times seven?
Starting point is 01:01:50 Are you meaning Lindholm? Lindholm, that's the word I was looking for. That's where he's hoping for you to jump in. Yeah. I wasn't sure you were talking about, uh, Caden Lindstrom,
Starting point is 01:01:59 who was just drafted and then. Lidstrom, Lidstrom known that the defenseman, he was really good in Detroit. No, it's okay. Lind home is the word. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:08 But to me, it's a bit like that. You give them everything. And I don't know that they, I don't know if they're against a low way. I didn't think he was that good in the playoffs. He was good. But I think that's what he is.
Starting point is 01:02:21 Good. Yeah. It's a change. He's 29. He's had, as I said, he's had two 40 goals seasons. He's a very good.
Starting point is 01:02:30 good player, but nine feels like your elite territory when you start looking around. And I know that you can't just go get elite guys, but they're spending a little bit more or it's stamp coast money for Gensel and maybe you're getting more production, different production. Who knows? It's a change anyway. Because and that was the other thing is, and you would kind of said it. You, you won some cups here, but you've, you've lost to Florida. You didn't get out of round number one this year, you're, you're up against it. You need to change something. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:05 I think there has to be change. You know, Kuturov and point setting you up, maybe Gensel's going to have one hell of a year and maybe nine won't sound like any problem. Yeah. But I do think that the Tampa had needed to make some changes. So I guess they've done that with Stamco's leaving. And then Gensel, I guess it's even a bigger deal. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:28 They'll be good. don't know. I do believe there's more changes that need to be made only because the team's being together so long. It feels like in a way they had the gift of the Stamp Coast contract expiring. Here you go. Here's a contract. Here's a bunch of cap space back, some flexibility, some freedom. You can finally breathe a little bit under the salary cap and then you just blow your brains out again. Yes. None of these deals age well. And I mean, we'll talk about Toronto in a minute. I guess you, if you run your team, if you run things based on long-term,
Starting point is 01:04:08 smart, whatever you want, I guess that, because no one does it. No one really does it. They spend and spend and spend and worry about it later. So also today, Victor Hedman signs a contract extension, four more years, $32 million, $8 million per. That's not bad, eh? 8 million for Victor Hadman? Yeah, I'll take that.
Starting point is 01:04:32 So Gensel's making 9 and I'm making 8. What the age is going on here? Anyway, you mentioned Lindholm. He wanted 9 million. He turned down, we're to believe he turned down 8 times 8 from the flames. Goes to Boston seven years, $7.75 million. Which still feels like an awful lot for Elias Lindholm. especially after the way he performed last year.
Starting point is 01:05:00 If last year was supposed to be his big year, it didn't look. It wasn't very big. He's 29. Last year had 15 goals. 15. 44 points between the flames and Vancouver. Didn't really fit in either spot.
Starting point is 01:05:19 44 points? I believe that's correct. 32 with the flames, another 12 with Vancouver. had 10 and 13 in the post season. But yeah, it was a bad year. It was a bad year. And we really, we felt like he had cost himself a bunch of money. Now, I guess he did if he was looking for nine times eight, right?
Starting point is 01:05:40 But he was never going to get nine. He'll go to Boston. It's a good team. It's a good fit. Yeah. If he can regain. He needs to play. He needs to be a really solid sentiment again.
Starting point is 01:05:56 Yeah. 44 points ain't going to do it. Fresh start, different conference. Life, it's a huge life change. Wasn't Vancouver supposed to be the fresh start and the uplifting and the pouty pants was ending? Like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:06:09 I don't know. I don't know either. They also dip into the former flame and Kinnock pool. Nikita Zedorov signed six years, five million per. I think they'll be sick of them in three. Yeah, he's. I don't even.
Starting point is 01:06:28 dislike the player. I just, you, you just see the track record of the teams he's being on and every, there's always circumstances and this and that,
Starting point is 01:06:35 and teams and blah, blah, but six years for a guy that's moved around a lot. Yeah. I think he can play good. I liked how he played against Edmonton in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:06:45 I think he had a really good year. I think he believes in himself, maybe a little too much at times. I think he'll be effective, but I think he'll wear out his welcome adventure. That feels very much to me like a, if you go to six years, we'll do it, right? You squeeze that extra year because five feels like kind of the max for a guy like that,
Starting point is 01:07:09 and they go six. Drafted by Buffalo, as you mentioned, two years there, then goes to Colorado, then a year in Chicago comes to Calgary for three, then spends the last basically the full season, well, 54 games, I guess, with the Vancouver Canox. Vancouver really wanted to keep them. They, and I don't think that was lip service.
Starting point is 01:07:25 They played well for them. And it's a, you wonder now, right? Here's a team that wanted you. And you played well there. You thrived. You had the fit was a good one. And you elected to say, no, I, I'm going elsewhere.
Starting point is 01:07:43 I get you've been in this position. None of the, I'm guessing none of the rest of us have. But when you look at it and say, it's money, man. This is, we are talking about six times five. that's even I can do that math. And I don't think he was going to get that kind of dough from Vancouver. So anyway, that's the Boston story.
Starting point is 01:08:06 So I guess good luck to both Elias and Nikita. Go get them. Or we don't care. So the Florida Panthers, they bring back Sam Reinhart and Dimitri Kulikov. They lose Montour. They lose Longberg, Oliver Ekman Larson.
Starting point is 01:08:24 So the cup, the cup champs, they'll retool. And they'll go back at it. The Reinhart's deal. Yeah. I didn't think that was crazy. Had to keep them. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:36 There again. Great fit. You've been, you've seen the other side and how it works when you don't win and don't make the playoffs and and and live in a whatever. I don't want to shit up Buffalo. But I think it would be easy right now to sign that extension. That's why I wonder for some of these guys like, again, Montour will talk about he got all the money.
Starting point is 01:08:57 Lomper got a ton of money to leave. But it'd be hard to go. You're still, they're still like body surfing in the ocean. Yeah, it'd be interesting to, actually, I would have to get McLeod law involved in this.
Starting point is 01:09:10 Like, if you're drunk and signing these contracts, is it still? Is it binding? Is it binding? I was so hammered. I didn't even know I signed it. It was Canada day.
Starting point is 01:09:20 I was bombed. It was on mushrooms. And I, come on. Can't hold me to this. Ryan Hart wakes up in a week. What? Utah? No.
Starting point is 01:09:34 Washington. What did Montour get? Okay. Yeah, we can jump there. Seven years, 7.14 million per. So that's your career deal.
Starting point is 01:09:48 Another guy that bounced around in Anaheim. Good young D. I wonder why Anaheim got rid of him. Then Buffalo and like, geez, good player. It goes to Florida. You know, it was always that. And I guess it was because no one, we're probably going to have to pay this guy $7 million a year on a long-term deal and he's going to just walk. Boy, it's a lot of dough.
Starting point is 01:10:09 I think he flourished in Florida. Obviously, he had a good fit in the big win there. But wasn't as good this last playoffs as the year before, I didn't think. His regular season last year was superb and not as good this year as well. So, yeah, Seattle, the Cracken, Ron Francis, maybe check him. Was he on shrooms? I don't know. Did they do that in Seattle?
Starting point is 01:10:31 Is it all just weed? No, no, no. They mix and mingle. Is it all? Because he goes seven times seven basically on Montour. And then Chandler Stevenson won a cup with Washington, went to Vegas, won another cup there. Good Setterman, good player, seven years, 6.25 million. So you're locking a couple guys in here.
Starting point is 01:10:54 A d'A dough and wish you well. Yeah. Well, maybe the flames could use some. Are they going to sign a guy like Chandler Stevenson? Holy smokers. Don't you go ahead, Ron. Yeah, Ronnie, he's all, he's all yours. 30 years old had 16 goals and 51 points.
Starting point is 01:11:16 His career high is 21. And he had that in Vegas the year before they won the Stanley Cup. But, man, man. Good player, took the cup to M. Lake, good guy. Did he? You saw a boy, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:33 I think I have no idea the depth of where Seattle is. You know what I mean? Yeah. As far as their lineup goes, maybe it's a really good fit, but it just feels like another free agent, July 1st signing. It's like, okay, I'm going to get the money. Yeah. I didn't see what the, like the media day stuff with Ron Francis.
Starting point is 01:11:56 was, but I'm betting he's, these guys are winners. They both have rings and leadership and veteran presence and intangibles. I'm guessing is a lot of what he maybe would have trotted out there. Because if it's just on level of play, I mean, Montor is not a one two, not a, not a universal one too. And Chandler Stevenson's not a, I don't think he's a universal number one. And I guess for a number one center, you're not going to get 6.25. Anyway, that's the Seattle story.
Starting point is 01:12:31 The Vegas watched Marsha So leave. Stevenson, as we mentioned, Alec Martinez goes to Chicago, Matt the leaves to Calgary, although he barely played there. They signed Ily Samsonov, the former Leaf goalie, one year 1.8 million. So that's the scoop there. I'm waiting on the Leafs till the very end. Jake DeBrusk, not coming to Calgary.
Starting point is 01:12:55 Vancouver. seven years, 5.5 million per to go and play with, uh, you know, whatever they got there. Sadeens. Yeah. And borough, Burroughs. So good luck to Jake. I like that signing, actually.
Starting point is 01:13:10 You know what? For a team that feels like they're there, we're going to be a good team. We're kind of a window to win. We're just, we're a competitive team. We expect now for the next five years, we're going to be a playoff team. Get in and see what happens. I like the brusk. I don't think 5.5 is crazy.
Starting point is 01:13:29 It never really felt like he was long for Boston, oddly. Feel happy in Boston. He was in, he was out, he was in, he was out. They changed the coach. It didn't really seem to affect the tone there. I thought he was good for them in the postseason. So he goes to Vancouver. Also, a big hulking defenseman, Vincent de Harne,
Starting point is 01:13:50 of the Oilers went to Vancouver. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Carolina. They lose Gensel and Shea and Pesci. Shane Gostis-Spare goes in. Sean Walker, who was traded from Philly to Colorado. He signs there. The Blackhawks did a whole bunch of stuff. Tyler Bertuzzi leaves the Leafs, goes to Chicago, four years, five and a half million. Pat Maroon continues to find work. One year, 1.3 million. 1.3.
Starting point is 01:14:25 I mean, it's not, it's a lot of money in the real world. It doesn't sound, a million dollars doesn't sound like hardly anything in NHL dollars. I just don't understand why these old guys keep like, okay. You've already got Folino there, right? As the veteran old guy, good in the, that sort of guy. Keep the kids and bring them along.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Like Pat couldn't keep up last year. I don't know. I liked them as a player for a long time. Yeah. Couldn't keep up. And then on that spot, sorry, they got all kinds of cap space.
Starting point is 01:15:00 They can spend all they want. Just supplement the roster with some veterans, I guess, because they look like they're going to be young. You gotta keep up. But, yeah, that one was interesting.
Starting point is 01:15:13 Tara Vinen goes back. He was originally a Chicago Blackhawk. Laurent Brasua. Larry Brasua signs there as well. And yeah, T.J. Brody, two years,
Starting point is 01:15:21 3.75 per. Hmm Good luck, Tej Was it was, you know Was good in Toronto And then it was kind of in another The lineup Was good in Toronto and then really wasn't
Starting point is 01:15:37 And seemed like he really wasn't So on a not very deep decor correct? Yeah, not real deep Sean Monaghan Columbus Blue Jackets Five years 5.5 million each Do you want to
Starting point is 01:15:54 smash your head against the wall when you hear that? Walk me through it. For me, it's, I want to smash my head against the wall because we got rid of him and through a first and just here you go. Yeah. He can't play anymore. He's the shits. And now he's going to go make five and a half for whatever for five more years in
Starting point is 01:16:17 Columbus. And I don't think he was a player he was, but we could have just sat on that contract. We wouldn't have a cadre contract probably because it wouldn't have been a little Fordham and we would have the whole the yeah it goes back to asset management and how it was not managed in those circumstances yeah that was not ideal it was to be sure insanity yeah that was a rough rough off season in hindsight you can't you can't do anything about you could draw i guess you tried you you did everything you could and yeah you can go back well should you have signed them the
Starting point is 01:16:57 okay there's so many layers but for that off season kachuk needs out you got what looked to be a very good fair deal and then you sign them and that was an emotional signing which is and pender said it that's not a true living calling card he takes time he's patient with rfas he makes them wait this was a calgary's taken a shit kicking we need everyone thinks the calgary's a ship town here's a guy's a guy's a guy's a that wants to stay let's sign them and um there's a guy that wants to stay that's not a guy anyway
Starting point is 01:17:32 yeah i know i know um and then so are they better this year they might be better this year than they they were last year because mona or a retool is where we're at folks re tool huberdo's this and you know weger is that all that goes in they trade we can we can sign nassum quadry but we don't have the speed we'd have to get rid of monahan but we'd have to give a first for someone to take them and you know what now i guess if you're if you're done beating your head against the wall did you see any of this happening with monahan because he was so beat up and so banged up he then went to montreal and was pretty good played in winnipeg was strong and now has a five year extent and five year deal i didn't see it happening but i sure as hell didn't
Starting point is 01:18:26 see one year of giving him a chance. He was either going to get fricking injured again and be on your IR or else he was right. Like it was one year. It was one year. Yeah. For a good soldier. For a guy that had come up through your ranks and done,
Starting point is 01:18:43 tried to play and had bad luck with injuries and surgeries and all the. And you probably would be your captain if he didn't leave. Yeah. Hard to say. So of course, the connection there. he and Johnny back together, they'll try and good luck rekindle things there.
Starting point is 01:19:04 The Oilers were quite busy. They get Jeff Skinner, who was bought out in Buffalo. He's going there on a one-year deal for $3 million. I heard, if I'm not mistaken, I heard it, trotted out there, and maybe it's been, because again, I was not around my laptop all day.
Starting point is 01:19:24 $100 million in earnings, zero playoff games for skinner. Yeah. Yeah. And it's not as though he's an old fart or can't play. I like the signing for, for the Oilers. Right? Three million is. You can probably put the puck in the net and play on a power play and score you some goals. Yeah. I don't think he's a malcontent. I think he's a fairly likable guy. He's 32 had 24 goals for the Sabres last year, 35 the year before, 33 the year before that. So. The guy can still, can still score. It didn't really work in Buffalo. It looked like it was going to.
Starting point is 01:20:05 And that was the, but just the Buffalo. This puts up a great season with Ikel. Hey, we got to keep Ikel happy. Sign him. Bam. He's completely one dimensional. And if he's not scoring,
Starting point is 01:20:20 he's pretty much useless on your ice. But I think it did what it. I think it did work in Buffalo as far as what he put up for the most, right? Like he, You just said 25, 35, like some really big seasons as far as scoring goals. There were other times where they bench him for.
Starting point is 01:20:38 And he was not going to be played by Lindy Rough. So he wasn't playing the Lindy Rough style of hockey. Three million bucks up in Edmonton, a guy that can put the puck in the net with those guys. That's probably a great fit. It'll be a test of this revamp D that they have. Because like you say, there's a few guys on that Euler roster that aren't great
Starting point is 01:20:57 at keeping the puck out of their own end. This is a guy who would fall into that category. Connor Brown back on a one year deal. Corey Perry back one year 1.4 million. I don't, I just, just walk me through the contract negotiation. Why is it not league men?
Starting point is 01:21:20 We went to, we were one game away from winning the cup. You want to be here? Okay, we'd like to have you. You're not going to be an every night guy. You're not playing 82. and will give you the league minimum. You've made millions of dollars in your, why is it 1.4? Who are you bidding against?
Starting point is 01:21:43 Why is it anything at all? Yeah. You. Not sure. Honestly, and again, Corey Perry on your team, Love him goes to the finals five years. You don't need him.
Starting point is 01:21:57 He couldn't keep up at the end of this year. Yeah. Can he make smart plays? Yeah. Did he go to the net on that one play when McDavid set him up for an unbelievable. Okay. But don't you want to start filling? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:14 And I mean, I guess if he's easy enough to bench or whatever or not a ton of cab. That's why you're benching a guy? I know. Or wait, that's why you're signing a guy? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:25 Because he's easy to sit a stand. It's like, I don't get it. Yeah. I don't know. Oh, it's no money. Yes, but it's a roster spot. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:34 It's a roster spot. They traded for Adam Henrique at the deadline. They keep him two years, three million per. Matthias Yanmark was good for them in that penalty kill, energy roll three years, gets some term $1.45 million. And Victor Arvinson, the former predator and L.A. King, goes in two years, four million per. I really like, I was a big fan of Arvinson when he was with the Predators.
Starting point is 01:22:59 guy has got a motor, he goes, can score, but it hasn't played a full season in a while. Last year, 18 games, 77 before that, 66, 50, 57. Now there's a lockout in there, or the COVID shortened. It just injuries have kind of dogged him for a little bit last year, six goals, 15 points, and 18 games. I like him. I don't know what he's got left, I guess.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Yeah, if he's healthy, I think it'll be a good sign. Yeah. but I just wonder there's there's probably going to be some guys maybe that you're going to want to pay in the next two years this is the whole Edmondson I'm not
Starting point is 01:23:40 part of the problem with getting close is that you think you're close yeah so you treat it as where we're gonna who the hell knows like I've been in the room after you lose yeah oh we're going to get there next year well you know what doesn't happen but very often do you get there next year Florida did it, I guess.
Starting point is 01:23:59 Teams do do it, but there is no guarantees. And I just, if you're going to do Arvetson, then you shouldn't. I don't know why they're handcuffing themselves so much to the cap. Because they bought out Campbell to get some salary. Yeah. And then, yeah, Skinner, $3 million. Okay. Again, I don't know that you need him.
Starting point is 01:24:23 I don't know. I still, all of that stuff to me is. Like, I don't know if you could have got them, but if you don't resign, or if you don't get Skinner and you don't get Arvinson, that's $7 million, right? $7 million. Do I math?
Starting point is 01:24:40 Go get Preci. Perry, 1.4. Go get a defenseman. That's $8.5 million this season. Now, Perry's one year, Skinner's one year, but even by next summer. You have one year. You might have one year to get this done.
Starting point is 01:24:58 You've now got two years of Henrique and three years of Yanmark and two years of Ardvinson. I don't know. Everyone seems to really think. I saw people think this, Edmonton won yesterday. Edmonton won July 1. And they may have. We will see. Dushain back to Dallas one year, three million.
Starting point is 01:25:18 Matt Dumba, two years, five and a half million to go to Dallas. Tyler To Foley says, I'm tired of moving around, man. I'm tired of it. four years, six million per in San Jose. Love it. He likes California. It's not L.A., but it's not bad. Be all right.
Starting point is 01:25:38 Play with me. Can I play with Celebrini? Yeah, can I play with the new kid? Okay. Yeah, I'm in. Yeah. Speaking of L.A., Warren Fogle leaves the Oilers, goes to Los Angeles.
Starting point is 01:25:51 Joel Edmondson, who, I remember we were, talking about it with with pinder and he he was crushing the joel edmondson the move to toronto at the deadlines like this guy can't fucking plan i mean whatever he's in and out of four years three point eight five million each for joel edmondson does rob uh rob like nobody's doing down there again i don't know enough about the kings in roster and holes and what they need that A lot. Okay.
Starting point is 01:26:30 Well, we've tap-dast around it here. The Toronto Maple Leafs. Uh-huh. The bonus. They, uh, they made a trade prior to July 1 to acquire the, the rights to Chris Tanna,
Starting point is 01:26:43 who we thought, this would be great for him. Stay in Dallas. Gonna love it down there. What a fit. Uh, don't know what happened, right? Don't know what happened. My guess is someone got in his agent's ear,
Starting point is 01:26:56 and then his agent got into Tana, here and says, you know what, I have a funny feeling. I haven't talked to anybody because that'd be tampering. But I wonder if there's maybe a five or six year deal out there that would be, uh, be available to us six years. Do they know how old I am? Come on. Do you play it?
Starting point is 01:27:17 No, I think maybe. Just hold off. If, if term is what you want. Anyway, Toronto trades for his rights. They sign them six years. 4.5 million per six. Great job, Chris.
Starting point is 01:27:36 Great job last year. You maximized your return. Yeah. It's great for him. Great for him. It's so good for him. He's from Toronto, right? There you go.
Starting point is 01:27:48 Going home and getting all the dough. And years. Yeah. Got into... And I feel bad for the Leaf fans because every hit you're going to hold your breath and then he's going to go down the tunnel
Starting point is 01:28:02 and he's like son of he's coming back I don't know he's been under there for a long oh he's back played 75 games last year 65 the year before 82 before that and we've talked about it the whole thing was oh he said can't stay healthy
Starting point is 01:28:20 he was pretty healthy Calgary flame it's pretty good pretty friggin' healthy guy but he's 34 and signed a six-year deal. And I get it. We don't care. He doesn't care. I've got Tavares right now,
Starting point is 01:28:38 who can still play. I've got Marner, who I don't think is going to, I think he's just going to stay there. He's not going anywhere. Right? So let's, we use burn the boats.
Starting point is 01:28:49 It feels like a burn the boats kind of a day. They all, so they bring in the 34-year-old Tanev. Oliver Ekman Larson, comes in who is bought out in Vancouver goes to Florida four years three and a half million again it's not so much the dough but it's it's the term it's a four year deal for a guy who is well past his prime i thought he was okay but he was okay in the playoffs but not but on that team in that system he's 32 so it's i mean 36 37 by the time he's
Starting point is 01:29:27 done. Yanni Hawkenpaw, the former star, he's again, a big, lumbering tough, I guess. You know, he's a big guy, two years, 1.5 million. They move on from Sansonov. Their goaltending tandem is going to be Joseph Wall, who got signed to a three-year deal, 3.66 million. And Anthony Stelars, who was the Panthers backup, he comes in. So Stalars and Wohl in net.
Starting point is 01:29:53 And they add Tanev, Ekman-Larsan, and Hawkenpaw to their blue. line. There's some gray beards there when you start to throw in. Tavares isn't the kid either. It makes sense from, you know, when you think about it from Trillivings standpoint, where the team is, I just don't know that this, what they've done. The guys that haven't got them there yet are still going to be the guys that need them to get them there. And what he's done is not going to be the. Tanniv will help if he's healthy. Ekman Larson's probably fine. Yeah. Hawk and paw is not going to be impactful at all.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And your goal tending? I don't know. Is that tandem? Wow, yeah? Probably not. It's about the big four. Nothing's changed except if it doesn't work out, they're going to be stuck with shitty deals.
Starting point is 01:30:49 But maybe if it doesn't work out, those guys are going to go in all that money and cap crunch isn't going to be a concern. Yeah, maybe. And the cap keeps going up. And with TANF, it's like you said about how maybe the Cadre deal goes. Tanev's back. He just can't do it anymore. So it's LTIR and the Leaves have all the money in the world.
Starting point is 01:31:13 They don't care about real dollars. No. You get them off the cap and moving on. That deal. I'm betting that was two years longer than what Dallas was. Yeah, I can't imagine. Because you would. You'd be, okay, four years.
Starting point is 01:31:28 we'll do four. I think he gets six. What? Who is giving him a six year deal? Because one year more, the tax situation in Toronto's probably, you're probably, I don't know if this is two years.
Starting point is 01:31:44 Done. Yeah. And like you say, he's a Toronto guy. Maybe there is that. There is no, he's done damn good and good for him. He's earned it. The way he plays, we all love it.
Starting point is 01:31:58 Be happy to watch them compete in Toronto. I don't care. I'm not a leaf span, but whatever. I don't think those moves have any impact on, you know, and it's hard to say that because TANF is a hell of a defender. Yeah. But their depth on defense is still not good enough to me that that's what's going to be impactful. Maybe it'll, maybe it'll,
Starting point is 01:32:20 maybe it's not a detriment as much because TANF fills some holes and Larson fills some holes that you're not as limited defensively. But it's going to be up to the guys that have been there. It's those guys that have to drive the bus. A lot can happen, but on DailyFaceoff.com, the way they have their D kind of laid out. Morgan Riley with Tanev on the right side, Timothy Lilligran on the right side with Oliver Ekman-Larsen, and Jake McCabe, who's a decent guy, and Simon Benoit, Simon Benoit,
Starting point is 01:32:53 I don't even know if he's right. I liked him in the playoffs. I thought he was pretty strong. So it's, it's okay. There's, there's no Victor Headman or Kale McCar in there, and that's probably unfair, but you needed to,
Starting point is 01:33:08 you needed to upgrade your blue line and Trilliving went to market and did the best, I guess, that he could. And Hawk and Paul will be in there somewhere as well. I think what you said is the key, the best that he could. I think there were better defensemen out there that they didn't get, whether they were targeting them or not. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:27 Tanev with Riley, sure. Yeah, I get it in the line. I don't think he should be a top two. But if he's playing that many minutes, that's just more wear a tear. I just, yeah, it's, uh, hey, listen, we like Tree.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Good luck, Tree. I'm right. Go get it. I would bet true living is happy with the Tanev siding. And aside from that, nothing that's happened this off. in the last two weeks. I don't mean it. I would bet he was trying to do a lot more.
Starting point is 01:34:03 And it didn't work out for him. I think that's probably true. Bertuzzi, he's written really, I thought it was a good, a year ago when they got them. I like this Bertuzzi. He got some edge to him.
Starting point is 01:34:14 Was just okay as a leaf, I thought. They keep Domi. He resigns to stick around. But I wonder what else were they, would they make you try? They had to be in the market for a real big time goalie. think i don't know yeah i would would have expected that all mark markstrom mark somebody right like
Starting point is 01:34:34 i just think that they're i would yeah sitting in my country yeah like maybe boston isn't going to trade all mark there because you know it's maybe conference division that that whole thing i for a guy like you see here clearly treloving's got all the balls he'll spend he doesn't care what was it six years I don't give a shit, do it. What kept him from getting a Markstrom deal? I don't know. I don't know. That one is still confusing to me
Starting point is 01:35:05 because the price that, well, Markstrom maybe. Fair enough. That's probably what it was. Markstrom is probably the reason he didn't get it done. And the flames ended up with what they got. Because when I look at it, you just look at it all things being equal. If I'm the Leafs, I'm offering more than what
Starting point is 01:35:25 the flames got from Jersey. If, but I got to think that Marksum was like, no, I'm not going there. What if you're Markstrom? New Jersey or Toronto? I don't know. I don't know what drives the guy. I mean, clearly he doesn't like it. I just mean for you.
Starting point is 01:35:40 I'd go to Toronto. I'd go to Toronto. Would you? I would absolutely. Everyone always bitches, all the pressure. F, what are you talking about? You're trying to win a cup. Does it matter what city you're in?
Starting point is 01:35:52 So you go to the market and somebody goes, I was out for pizza. see yesterday and someone shook my hand. Oh, no. Like, what are we talking about? And I get it that if you're a player and there's a, but they're treated like gold in Toronto. You win a cup there. You're legendary forever.
Starting point is 01:36:10 I just, I would be way more open to Toronto than other people make it seem like it's. Yeah. So hard to play there. Because you would have, I would think probably when you look at it in terms of chance to win. Maybe New Jersey's ahead of Toronto.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Maybe Toronto's ahead of New Jersey, but it's feels kind of level, don't you? Yeah. And, and yeah, if you want to coach Markstrom might, that, who's coaching in Jersey? Oh, no, he went to Ottawa. Yeah. Green. Yeah. No, it's um, uh, well, it's a guy. Heelton Keith and then Craig Ruby in Toronto. I don't know. I, uh, anyway, I'm guessing Markstrom had it
Starting point is 01:36:55 in his head that he would go to Jersey and that's it. And it's his prerogative. You get that, no move. Obviously, plenty of other things that went on. A few things will happen here over the next day or so. And we'll keep up on it over the next bit. That's the kind of the thing about free agency. It's such a crazy, crazy, especially because game seven this year.
Starting point is 01:37:17 Oh, a week ago. So you play game seven on a Monday. Eight days ago. They wedged the awards in there for some. some reason. Just stop with the award show, right? It cannot, it cannot work. Well, you know, people are this or that give out the awards. Done. You can't, it's just, you can't have a big production for every event. Yeah. It's, you do it. I thought the draft looked great from the sphere, looked, uh, all of that sort of thing. Good. Do your draft. And now, they're not doing the draft
Starting point is 01:37:50 next year. They're doing they're not doing a, the whole league comes together thing. This was kind of it. So they're gassing the in person draft, but they're keeping going with the awards. Anyway, I don't know. But yeah, you got the cup on a Monday, the awards, round
Starting point is 01:38:06 one, round two, day off, free agency. Most teams are already on the ice with their prospect can. Tija Gim was been on the ice for two days. you know i mean it's crazy crazy how they they jam all of this in i don't know i don't know that there's any other way to do it it's i'm not the one doing it but um it's a lot in a short
Starting point is 01:38:32 amount of time and you wonder about teams like florida or edmonton who've been kind of occupied their efforts have been kind of tied up here the last little bit does emmington have a gm not yet. That was some other news that came out yesterday is Stan Bowman, Al McIsaac and Joel Quenville, reinstated by Gary Bettman, they are now free to find work and employment within the National Hockey League
Starting point is 01:39:01 after everything that kind of went out in Chicago. And the early rumblings, like real early, is that Stan Bowman may be the front runner for the job in Edmondson to come in to be their general manager. We'll see. The guy there that's been doing all the talking. Well, Jeff Jackson was the...
Starting point is 01:39:23 Used to be an agent. He was Connor's agent. Can you just keep doing it? Do you want to just keep doing it? No. So that's the scoop as far as that's concerned. That's the Pinder Report for you today. Now, save the date August 24th.
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Starting point is 01:40:05 It's only got nine pilot demos, save thousands potentially, hundreds to thousands of dollars on these. Go and check it out online or in person at Village Honda. How's your snoring? well i've been drinking lots so i'm sure it's been really good yeah it's funny how that affects that but when we because outdoor dental right we could i didn't really think about it's snoring so i guess when you're when you're all gibbled your soft palate gets kind of like everything really if everything else then you kind of gets loose so too the soft palate as it turns out so yeah
Starting point is 01:40:45 when you're uh when you're in one dentistry with no needles no drills no stress it's the Solaya laser. They use it for their general dentistry. One to two minutes, you relax. It's pain free. They can do all of the dental work with the laser. No, no needles and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:41:04 But it can also improve and cure your snoring. Two 15-minute treatments increases the tension in the soft palate. I don't know. We'll have to look at the fine print. I'm not sure if when you're, if it guarantees when you're drunk. Like when you've had nine. It's like when you're signing a contract when you're drunk.
Starting point is 01:41:23 You're not sure. That's right. Yeah. Ron Francis may still have been snoring even with the Solaya laser treatment. But no, they go in there. It's non-surgical. It's pain free because that's what it is. It's the back of your throat.
Starting point is 01:41:35 It's a soft palate and when you're sleeping. This all starts to happen. This tightens things up. Two 15-minute treatments could be covered by your, by your benefits at work. Figure it out. Outdoor. dental is the website. At least find out more.
Starting point is 01:41:50 send them an email, pay them a visit. They'd love to see you. Get the details. If you don't believe us, they'll have all kinds of examples and experiences and people who can vouch for this. And Pinder did it. And he says it definitely worked for him. So by all means, check this out.
Starting point is 01:42:08 And Dr. Jay's a great guy. Do you talk to Dr. Jay? I got to get him to see Dr. Jay here. You're going to see Dr. Jay. Got to get a kid in too. He's so good. Great guy. Great guy.
Starting point is 01:42:19 Outdoor.com. is the website. So with all that happened yesterday, now I don't know what the odds were on Betway because now you look at all the changes, Tampa Base, Stamco, Gensel in, Nashville, are they going to do it? Who's it going to be?
Starting point is 01:42:40 So I went to see this morning what the Stanley Cup odds were, how they'd been impacted on Betway, because you can do that. futures are out for division winners and different things. So there you go with Betway on the Betway app. Get the Betway app. The Cup winner, the Edmonton Oilers, plus 700.
Starting point is 01:43:02 So 7 to 1 there. Florida next at plus 800, Dallas at 900, and then Colorado, New Jersey and Vancouver at plus 1,000. I guess they like Jake DeBrusk. Carolina's surprising me they're still. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:24 What did they do? Yeah, they brought in Shane Gostasperer, Sean Walker. I don't know. I wonder if they've kind of missed it. Went for it with Gensel. That's not really, right?
Starting point is 01:43:38 But you lose Shea and Pesci on the back end? I think Gossus Spares. It was a great, gets bought out, then shows up and plays pretty well. I didn't think Sean Walker was a good fit for Colorado. I don't think that trade worked for them. So I wonder if Rod the Bud has got us work cut out for him there.
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Starting point is 01:44:32 So we're kind of into summer, eh? Mm-hmm. Kind of into summer. Finally. Yeah. It's, uh, seemed like it took a while.
Starting point is 01:44:42 The weather may or may not cooperate. Was there snow here last week? Not that I remember. I was, I was out of town. My ringy dingy, the thing, the camera bell thing going off like one in the morning.
Starting point is 01:44:59 What the hell's going on? There's like white stuff on the grass. Like it's not accumulating on the sidewalk or anything, but I would call it a light dusting. Really? That's what I would call it. What the hell? It's the end of June.
Starting point is 01:45:12 It's now July. Yeah, knock it off. That mother nature. She's a bitch. She wasn't at Country Fest, though. Jody Messina was. You got to go see this.
Starting point is 01:45:25 I got to go see Jody Messina. And I was running my mouth about going to hang out with Mace and go to a rider's game. I got to want to do it. You got to go back there. Got to do it. What are your plans for the summer? You got anything going on? Is it just kids?
Starting point is 01:45:43 Oh, my kids are so good at hockey. Like we're going to be on the ice all summer. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Get a skate and train. and train them. Big summer, right, Dean? Like, it's a big year, big year.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Finally, you'll be able to go and sit inside in a hockey rink. Yeah. That'll be nice change. It's going to be good. That'll be so great. I love the shit. Yeah. What about you, Jack?
Starting point is 01:46:09 Some, you know, some stepbrothers. Hanging out with your step, bro. Yeah, I think, well, I'll be in Vancouver Island sometime in July, visiting my mom and my stepdad. That's pretty much it. I got to get down to Montana. I was hoping maybe to go this weekend. I'm going to the stampede thing.
Starting point is 01:46:28 Are you going to stampede? It's a big... How are we doing with the water? How are we doing with the water? Any water updates? Can we have a shower? I think everybody's just kind of ignored it for a while now. I think so? I'm sure they got to figure out.
Starting point is 01:46:41 She yelled at everyone the other day for using too much water. Did she yell? Yeah. Yeah, I saw that. Some of this. You people. With your showering. and dish washing a bunch of assholes. Fact words.
Starting point is 01:47:00 Yeah. I wonder how it's going for her. Seems like it's going really well. Yeah. Oh, yeah. She'll be excited to get out to some pancake breakfast. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:13 Hey, come and come and say hi at the, no, the mayor will be there. Yeah. Do we know she's, uh, she'd be leaving town. Yeah. Um, so we are officially now into, our summer schedule.
Starting point is 01:47:29 We will be bringing you Barnburners every Tuesday and Thursday from now until we decide there's stuff to talk about. Yeah, until we kind of figure that we want to go back to five days a week. But we're going to have some shows.
Starting point is 01:47:44 Some of them are going to be like this. They're going to be live. We're going to be either two of us, or three of us hanging out, shooting the shit, hanging out. Or we might have the summer vacation editions of Barnburner. We will sit down, have some one-on-one,
Starting point is 01:47:57 conversations, one on two, two on one, have some, you know, just some stuff that we can't do or that we don't do because of how busy everything is. It's a game day. It's a not game day. Flame season, hockey, everything's going on. Not really a chance to sit down and have good extended visits with our friends and with interesting people. We're going to be doing that as well over the course of the summer. We'll start trotting those out probably by next week. I would think on Thursday we can reconvene this thing and have probably some signings and some other things going on. But we can have a little, a little one of these. And then by next week, we'll get into the summer vacation mode, although I'm kind of there already.
Starting point is 01:48:34 Sounds terrible. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of there already. Are you, are you Calgary on Thursday? Are you? I'm Calgary on Thursday. I'll be here.
Starting point is 01:48:45 Very nice. We don't know about Pinder. He was in Vegas and then couldn't get out of Vegas. I believe it was a significant. outlay of cash on another airline to get out of Vegas because not everybody did. Nah, I saw there were quite a few of the ladies and gentlemen who had gone to cover the draft who were still hanging out at the MGM grand by yesterday.
Starting point is 01:49:14 The draft was around yesterday even. Wow. Yeah. And it's one of those things too. Maybe not so eager to get back. Not, yeah, not. Babe, I don't know what to tell you these mechanics. The strike ended yesterday.
Starting point is 01:49:33 The flights are back. What? No. Damn, I got a massage book for tomorrow at Caesars. Yeah. Anyway, that's going to do it. We'll be back on Thursday. Hope you're enjoying your summer.
Starting point is 01:49:51 And yeah, people say, give Conroy a big thumbs up. Hey, everybody that knows anything about the draft sure's think the flames and Craig had a great, a great draft. And didn't, you know what? Didn't go crazy and free agency. Perfect. Outta boy, Craig.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Keep listening. Keep that phone off. You know what to do. Your voice here. We'll let you know. I need to find this thing because then if I press this, then the show ends. See you, buddies.
Starting point is 01:50:23 Adios.

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