Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - AWOOOOO 🐺 Ft. Noodles | FN Barn Burner - November 20th, 2024

Episode Date: November 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Here we go. Jack is not messing around today. Come on, guys. Hurry. We were kind of lollygagging around a little bit here before the show. And Jacks, are we ready to go? Hey, so we're good. Let's go. You ready? Ellis.
Starting point is 00:00:17 Let's go. 10.10. Look at that. What's going on? Jack? You got a hot date. Got to get out of here? No.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Not any time soon. Oh, well, you don't know that. Emily Retchowski. The group. Available? Oh, I've seen her. Give her a chat. Send her a.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Senator a DM. Is that what they do? Can we get new chairs? Can we or did we? No, can we? Yes, you're bringing a chair. I hate them. Whatever you like, get a throne.
Starting point is 00:00:44 They're not comfortable. They're lame. I want you to get a chair you like, buddy. No good. Don't push my thing again. Fuck you. They drop when you, unexpectedly.
Starting point is 00:00:56 It's pretty expected when your foot's off. Only Pender's chair seems to do it, though. It's only yesterday, too. Weird how that worked, eh? Yeah. Sorry about that, bud. Welcome to the program, I believe, although I've not touched base with him, Jamie McClend. I'm going to join us today because it's a Wednesday.
Starting point is 00:01:11 His name is noodles. Noodles. Dudes. Set me some water. Bottles or just water? No, he didn't. Are you serious? Bottles with water in them.
Starting point is 00:01:23 Really? And then they're reusable. Huh. Yeah, I don't really know what. He's in on everything. I know. Like, we should. He really is.
Starting point is 00:01:32 I was saying last week he was in on it. It's like, I think he was in on our parent company a thousand years. Yeah, well, he was and he was on some other. What was it? It was a media thing. It's the Victory Plus, which is Neil, our pal in Calgary doing the streaming stuff in the NHL. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I heard about that a while ago. I didn't really pay attention as much as I should have, I think. Well, you know, he was dating my sister's friend. Yeah, nice young fella. Give them all your money. Let's get to it. the opening statements today, a presentation of McLeod Law, Shane King, a partner in the litigation and dispute resolution group, Peter Klein, he's a personal injury guy, also your
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Starting point is 00:02:53 Making a positive impact on our city is what they're doing. MacLeod-dashlaw.com, whatever it is that you need. The Flames win for the second game in a row. Oh, Blasty. I mean, that's, you got to, since the scheduled loss, they've been very good. I've not heard that very often before in my, like, yeah, it was the fifth and eight. I mean, the stats on them are disgusting. I understand it, but like.
Starting point is 00:03:19 It's kind of a newer terminology that people use. Like today I saw something. The scheduled loss. Cyclone bomb. Cyclone bomb. So. And, yeah. Cyclone bomb threat.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We don't want to talk about. So anyway, the flames have one back to back games. Blasty. You were all upset. The Blasty was coming in. Back to 500? You know what? It's wrong with Blasted.
Starting point is 00:03:39 He needed to win. He got it. He was there last night too. I thought he was good. Had to battle. Yeah, I thought he was okay. It was not his best night. I forgot to send this to Jack, but I've got, there was also Blasty and Harve were there.
Starting point is 00:03:52 And there was a third fellow that you would never guess that, well, I feel like you'd he go way back. Okay. Well, we'll anxiously wait on that. So, yeah, the scheduled loss, was that the, which one was that? Vancouver. was Vancouver. They played at home, LA Monday, and that was after a long run.
Starting point is 00:04:10 It was their third game in four days, their second of back to back. First game. Three games and four days in three different cities and three different times zones, five and eight. They were dog tired and they didn't change anything of something goalie. They kept rolling the guys out after the big one.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh, what was that game? No, no, no, no. Last night. A two one. Two to one. So why don't we bet these things? The under? It felt like an under. We could have predicted. I say we should have bet we know exactly what the score is going to end up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:40 I definitely wasn't a surprising two one. Because the way we started yesterday's show was saying there's a lot of similarities between these two teams. Not a lot of scoring. They rely on their goaltending. Bad special teams is right. Make things tricky for the opposition team. But they got it done.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Great third period again. Jack was setting me updates. He's like, Garland. Boomers on Afterburner tonight guaranteed overtime. I'm like, oh, I forgot about that. Did you do the Afterburn? How come you don't call me?
Starting point is 00:05:08 I'm a number one's beyond after. As soon as I, as Anderson tied it, I texted Gould. I said, O.T's going to be great. And then, O.T was great, but. So we need someone to score while there's other players defending on the ice
Starting point is 00:05:25 other than a goal. It's going to shootout. So, uh, not a, I was done in the original three rounds of the shootout. That's the, it wasn't like 17. rounder with American League or anything. And once again,
Starting point is 00:05:37 Kirkland leads the way. And the shootout, two for three this year. Favorite player. He was over 60% in the American League. They like using him there. Looks very confident. Because remember he did the first and was like, what is he doing? What the Huska? Why are you throwing this? Hey, nice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And it's a great goal. And it's a man maker. Wags in a cross. And the second time, he didn't have lost. I tried to see. It was a one, one-off wonder, one hit wonder. And then last night, why is he, is he his last attempt? It's not going to, hey, how about that?
Starting point is 00:06:06 Same move all three times. I don't really know why that's tough for a goalie, but you don't often see a guy on his, go to the far side to shoot. He's just confident that he'll take what's available. Someone open up if he makes a goal and move that far. I'm just putting myself, well, you're a goalie, dad, so you would appreciate this.
Starting point is 00:06:20 As he's going from his right to his left, the goalie is probably so focused on five hole, five hole. I've got to keep paddle down, stay low, stay low. Totally. And then. Just had, so, shi, shi, shi, shi, shi. I'm going to put it over the pad and under the glove. And if that glove gets a little droopy, then you go shelf.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Let's go. You'd shoot it, right? Well, yeah, it's the best foot off the ice. 18 inches. I always have grand designs, but it's usually red on the logo. That's where I get it. I'd have fallen on the blue line. Everyone would have had a great guffaw.
Starting point is 00:06:48 It would have faked an injury and gone down the ramp and off. What's that? No, I can't. I. That was like you would. We had in Columbus once there. It was double digits. And it was close enough.
Starting point is 00:07:00 where I had the sweat was oh really yeah so that would have been your first and only ever twist the ankle son of a it'd be great if just fire one right from center no i wasn't going to score anyway go sit back now i didn't fall over yeah thought i kind of by surprise so there's the scheduled loss but there was also the two games if you remember on that road trip that's set just right before that scheduled loss five nothing Vegas we were not happy no that was roachier prior yeah five one Utah not good yeah it's like how these this is this is so Now we're settling in for what this season might be. This is what we're going to see.
Starting point is 00:07:35 And since then, 5-2 and 2, a scheduled loss in there. And they, I mean, they're riding some great goal tending. I would say that's the only thing that's. See. Yeah, last seven games, five have been Wolf starts now. And he's been. How many goals have scored? Well, here, look, I have some data here.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Shut the front door, big boy. He did his numbers. Do it. Nerd. Right. I'm the nerd. That's right. Get your analytics out of here.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Nerd! Goals scored in regulation. Since returning home from that Vegas and Utah debacle. Yes. Worst two games of the year. In regulation, New Jersey, well, I'll just three, two, two, three, two, two, two, one, two, two, one, two, two. one.
Starting point is 00:08:33 So this goal's four. It's a two one league game. In reg. That's not, you know what that is? That's not a lot of breathing room for your goaltender. No, they have not gotten over three goals. So if we added the, is that what Ovechkins got on the year? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Jeez. Two, three, four, five, seven. That's nine games and they have points and seven of them winning five of them. And how many goals total in nine then? Can you do that math? Not quick. Okay. The total goals in there?
Starting point is 00:09:03 You were writing it down. I was trying to keep up. I thought you were going to goals against. Like, these numbers aren't matched. What else is going on? What I said? Four in regulation. How they're winning.
Starting point is 00:09:12 They don't. One, two, one, two, two, a couple threes. It's, it's amazing. And the separation is there now between Wolf and Vlodar. Wolf has been tremendous. 18 goals and nine game, Jarvaging two goals again. It's gross. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:09:29 Six and one at home. 1.83 goals against the 944 save percentage, 7-2 and 1 in the year. F, the Calder. It's just you're going for more on that later. The big one. Don't have the call to just collect them all. Let's go. I'll just stay up here.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Yeah, what's the next door? I'm right here. Do you want more? His last five starts. It gets better and better. It gets better and better. Because this would have been stretching back to the last Rochup, which was successful. Oh, God.
Starting point is 00:09:55 Good, bragging about Wolf. You guys are putting pressure. Yeah, he can't handle pressure. Pressure. It's just a child. He's a kid. Settle. Montreal, remember that one.
Starting point is 00:10:07 You have to come back. Two on 24, victory. Boston, four on 38, and they lost in an overtime. L.A. 1 on 29 win. Nashville, zero on 29 win. And L.A. Islanders win on. Remind me of the goal against L.A. scored on them.
Starting point is 00:10:24 Why don't you? Well, I'm just, it's this much. Like, it's this much. It was from a shutout. Like, the whole puck did not. even crossed the line. He was exceptional. It's as close to shutters you can get.
Starting point is 00:10:35 So anyway, he's good. Very good. What's wrong with Flaar? You guys are... Nothing's wrong. You're just right in the hot hand right now. Lidar's been absolutely probably as good as you could expect. He's been all right.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Better than I expect. Yeah, sure. Coming off. That's a lot. Here's coming off a hip. Maybe that hip was holding him back. Are we, uh, we're excited or scared? Excited.
Starting point is 00:10:59 Okay. Good. Why scared? or their score. Oh, that, wow. No, it's, it's not like the team's playing very well. They've been okay and the goaltending's been exemplary. And this could leave you in peak pain, absolutely,
Starting point is 00:11:11 which would be finishing outside of the playoffs and not having a top 10 pick. That will be peak pain. I think you need to, we all need to start preparing for that fate. That's, that's what I'm, you said, why are you fearful or scared wherever the word was? Like, that's exactly it. Yeah, you might be right. But look at this. Look at this.
Starting point is 00:11:28 People that are just listening. What are we? Those are the standings in the west here. And they're one point out of first in the Pacific. Vegas plays in Toronto tonight or host Toronto. I don't know where the game is. It's Vegas Toronto tonight. That's a game in hand Vegas has.
Starting point is 00:11:45 In Toronto. Thank you. So, I mean, a Vegas lost tonight, you'd be one point out of the division lead. But we're also still talking about less than 20 games. And three points out of peak pain. There's not a lot of teams.
Starting point is 00:12:00 that they have horrible special teams and struggle to score that hang around. But if there are occasional outliers, it's going to be because of exceptional goaltending. It's the only way you can do it. Well, this is the scary. Yes, this is the scary. The good and the bad, right? That's what we're evaluating here is that we've got a goaltender now that we're very confident in and will keep us in games.
Starting point is 00:12:24 He looks great right now. He looks like a top goalie on planet Earth right now. The guy that we were worried, they might have to protect. him a little bit because of how shoddy the defense is. They might have to really kind of measure his starts and pick opponents. I'll say this, doing the show last night.
Starting point is 00:12:41 There is the sentiment out there. Who's he play? I don't really care that much. I know. I don't either. But it's not Are you supposed to play Vegas five in a row? Like Montreal is not a playoff team. Boston fired their coach. L.A.,
Starting point is 00:12:56 hard to say. Nashville no good. The Islanders didn't look to be very good. it's not his fault. Just up the puck's that a shot. Has he been good against those teams? It's not as if they don't know how to shoot the puck or they have no skill or their low quality shots. He's making the saves he needs to make. They're in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:13:11 That's the other teams that it's all inter, within the play and the league regularly. And I would guess there's probably some teams out there that will play the same opponents and be like, I wish our goal he didn't let in four tonight because we should beat a team like Montreal, Nashville, the Islanders. So like you, I'm not too caught up in who they. they're playing. I'm more interested in how well the kid is. Yeah, the results matter more than, I mean, he's just looked great.
Starting point is 00:13:36 He's made saves that he shouldn't be making and he's stopping his approach. You ride the hot hand. Like I think he starts against the Rangers tomorrow. And then if you want to get Vladar in for some work, you've got Minnesota 2 p.m. on Saturday. If Wolf has a loss, you're obviously going to go back to Vlodar at this point. And you, I think it's just an alternation until someone's got a hot hand. they went through that stretch where they didn't play a lot of hockey, right?
Starting point is 00:14:02 What was it? Two games in eight days after the five and eight games. So now he's played a couple here. If he does go against the Rangers, it would be six of the last eight would be Wolf starts. Shesirkin went last night. So I wonder if they go quick, Jonathan Quicks, his boyhood idol.
Starting point is 00:14:19 That's right. L.A. Kings, he grew his California kid. I don't know. Does that play into it? They didn't play him against Markstrom. Not that that was his idol, but yeah, I don't know. Like he has the, we've seen the picture. of him as a wee lad. Delroy, California.
Starting point is 00:14:34 Dustin, California? I don't know if it does or it doesn't, but it's the thing. I think the real thing that you're deciding on is this guy's coming off three games where he's been almost unbeatable. Like one puck and three games has crossed the goal entirely. More than an inch. How are you not putting him back in? He gives you your best chance to win tomorrow night.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah, it's just to keep the other, get the other guy back in and get him some minutes. That's the only. Yeah. And I'm not too worried about Vlodar not being able to get minutes this year. Hot hand go. It's not as if Wolf is exhausted leaving the crease. Can I get an IV?
Starting point is 00:15:10 I lost eight pounds tonight. This was a very low event first 40 minutes. Like it was wet blanketville. The saddle home was doubling as a library and or hospital hallway. It was the Islanders on Tuesday. It was the Islanders on Tuesday. And the third, I thought,
Starting point is 00:15:28 when he makes three or four saves in the opening five to eight minutes that were like huge. It's like, okay, now you can see, okay, we got a game here. Knowing I was doing. He's held them in this now. Knowing I was doing after burner, I'm sitting there watching the television and then catching myself daydreaming. I'm not on my phone. I'm not reading a boy.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Okay, pay attention to this game. I haven't paid. I don't know what happened in the last four minutes. I have to rewind. You didn't miss much. I was thinking about drinks. about drinks and umbrella drinks and sand beaches. Okay, what's happened?
Starting point is 00:16:03 Did I miss anything? Probably not. That was a common thing last night. My brother turned to me and said, it's 10 minutes in. Have I missed anything? We've been here. I'm watching, but I don't remember anything happens.
Starting point is 00:16:12 No, no, that's what's happened. Skating. There's one chance there. They've done some skating, Dean. After 40, the Sarich, Leslie Francis Treel. Well, that's how the islanders want it. It is. that's how they want to do it.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Yeah, that's not flames hockey. Those islanders, they came in and imposed their will on it. They're on the road. They don't care how boring it is. It's not as if they kept the high flying flames. Now, power play goal, Anderson's bomb, first power play goal in five games. Second unit.
Starting point is 00:16:49 When they score in the power play, and it hasn't happened a lot, four, one, and two. Oh, just get one. You're a stats nerd. That's great. Look at this. There it is.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Let's meet and what that's you. It was a rip. It was a rare sequence of a direct to take Pospicile Cammary. Anderson, what time? Scars.
Starting point is 00:17:14 A rip. That is a rip. Almost 95 miles down. They were moving it quite nicely there. It was a rare sequence of direct functional play on the power play. Tate to tape passes at the other team moving around. I was remind people.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Postpicile in that, sorry, in the. the bumper. Is that what they call the bumper? That's the bumper, yep. He won hardest shot in the H.O. one year. People forget how soon can rip it. Raspus Anderson? Like 95, that's not nothing.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It's not that hard. In a game it is. Like that would be one of the, I think probably the hardest five to ten goals of the season. It's for velocity. I don't know. Anyway, it's a hard shot. It's good to see him rip it. It comes back to the thing about.
Starting point is 00:17:59 you're getting the goal tending. Your defense isn't falling to pieces. Oh, no. Defense is fine. What's up? How are you doing? No, I'm not going to harp on it. I just had a thought.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Oh, all right. You know what they're going to do? I'll write it down. I've lost all Connie Fiddance. Have you really? Yeah. In Craig? Tell me.
Starting point is 00:18:21 You know what's coming? What's going to score? You're going to add. Got to go get a score. Oh, geez. We're right. Connie's got three first rounder. home ice in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:18:32 If we can just score into PowerPoint. Well, he's very kind. We got to get a, we got to get a power play guy. They have Power Play guys. They're no good. We got to, we got to get a better power play guy. Stop touching me. Who's out there? In fairness, if Cadry just wants to
Starting point is 00:18:48 pick. Yeah. Oh, no. Carrey's good. What it needs to do. Can you imagine if we added a center, a playmaking center? Oh, those are easy. Go get two. Baby. And then the slotting? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:04 Imagine the slotting. No, yeah, I know. We got all this cab space. He had hands on his face, but now he seems excited about this idea. He's talking himself into it. This is Connie Fidens and Doni, you're, yeah, your, Connie Fidens is growing. Yeah. Clearly in this.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Um, you think Pascal isn't up there just scouring the league? I'm sure he is. I think he's probably working on the HL roster. I think he's screaming it. Connie, get a center that can move the puck. I know what it's like to play with Dudd centers. Get me, get these guys a center. And Connie's like, ah, Iggy, come on.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm right here. Gregson. Geez. Well, didn't I. Oh, that's what. Oh, what you're wrong. Imagine if I had a center. Hey, Connie.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Marchand's UFA this summer. He wants to get the hell out of there. Boston's in shambles. Let's go. You're going to bring the cup down. What do you? You don't think they're going to add a center or a score? I just know I have Connie Fiddance and Craig to do the right thing.
Starting point is 00:20:06 And if that means adding a center, then, and if he does it, then I, I trust them. Look, he just texts me. That's what it is to have. Talk about this. Trying to keep it on the down. Time for the insider hotline of presentation of Crystal Waters, Plumbing and Heeding. Your crystal clear choice for all plumbing, heating and cooling services, probably not using the cooling so much. Not today.
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Starting point is 00:21:17 What are you wearing? Oh, what? Merry Christmas, my friend. That tree's too small for your house. Oh, it's just far away. That's a nine-foot tree. Oh, no. Look at all the space you got out there.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Get a big tree. Well, the ceiling's 14 feet high. You want me to get a 14 footer. You can play basketball in there. We were discussing after our conversation last week about the height of your ceilings and your crown molding. It's very fancy. Very fancy. Very, very high end.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah. No, I don't know. I mean, yeah, the ceiling is 14 feet high. That's, that's, and apparently we had room to go 20 and the architect said, the architect said, don't do 20 because all of will trap the sound in there. The sound will be a mess. So we went to 14 feet. And then I added a panic room up top.
Starting point is 00:22:07 Good. That's good. Jeez. No, I'm serious. Do you hear the rumor? Conroy's looking for a center? I just, you know what? I got to, listen, I show up once a week.
Starting point is 00:22:22 Last week, I thought we left and the team was like, we were very happy. Just let it be, probably going to sell some pieces off. and, you know, Lidar is going to go here. You're talking about adding players now. What's going on here? We got the Vista winner. Our defense is so good. We can't be stopped.
Starting point is 00:22:40 We just, we need a power play center just to set up guy. We need a couple more goals scores. And we're first place. We're a whole nice advantage in the playoffs. Okay. So I just, I mean, is that much changed in a week? Or like, what is the, what's the argument? You want a young center?
Starting point is 00:22:56 You know what? I love you. You know that you're a goalie. I'm giving love to the goalie, this wolf guy. Get on board. He's taking us to the playoffs. Woo! Give us a hell.
Starting point is 00:23:07 And if they can't get there with the scoring they have, if they get a good centerman, squatting. It's amazing. You get a top end center and then cadre and then backland. Oh, man. Okay, so let me ask you this. Top end center from where?
Starting point is 00:23:26 Noodles, you're being logical. This is not how this is a goal. You're a goalie. Don't give me your B. So hey, how about this? Do you want to trade for Elias Limbaugh? Would you like it? Available, I bet.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Yeah, he might be available. There's not meat on that bone, that contract still. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. Like top end centermen, you know, they don't fall out of sky. Either got to draft and develop them, you know, to me, this is where you're dealing from a position of strength. You've got, you know, Pinder, you and I were shooting a note back and forth. For me, like the goalie is winning the Calder today, if he choose it today.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Okay, I watched the other kid. I watched the Russian kid play the other day live. Mishraf. He's very, yeah, he's a talented kid, but he's, there's a reason why he's been a healthy scratch because he's a bit of a dog away from the puck, right? So he's got to learn a lot. So, you know, right now, yes, he's a shiny toy. Everyone's excited.
Starting point is 00:24:27 Everyone watches him out east. but, you know, Wolf is my rookie to year right now because of what he's been doing, who he's doing it against, too. He's playing, you know, he's not getting soft starts. He's getting some good starts. And he's holding up. And to me, you know, that game looks a lot different last night in the third period. If he doesn't make some saves, right?
Starting point is 00:24:49 You know, I lost to me. That's the beauty of me calling a game out east. I can go back to my hotel room and watch, you know, the West. game, right? So I'm watching Calgary play last night. I wasn't sure how that was going to unfold. Now the Anderson that power play, that was a bomb. And
Starting point is 00:25:08 you know, I thought Kelly did a really good job pointing out how Barlamoff overpushed a little bit on the play. But that was good puck movement. You know, I just, I don't think you add. I think what you do is organically, maybe this is a pack of wolves retro.
Starting point is 00:25:24 Maybe this is an pack of wolves. This is the 2004. team where you've got a couple of good players and everybody else is really, you know, just buying in. He's pissed off. He has to play with Conroy. He's like, Jesus, get me a center here. Listen, Iggy, you look back on Iggy.
Starting point is 00:25:41 There's a Netflix special on Iggy's career in Calgary. He had three different Sotters, right? Like Brian, Brent, Carol. You know, he had, did he have a true number one center ever? Dude, he scored 50 with Dean McCammon of the other wing. What are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yolkin and I guess did Oli come in and be somewhat of a one? No. You know, Oli had a, if you Google Oli Yokinan right now, he looks exactly like Mike Kienin. Kipper sent me a picture of him. He's behind the bench. He's behind the bench in Finland somewhere. He looks like I had to do a double take. I swear to God, Kipper put in my WhatsApp.
Starting point is 00:26:19 He's got a big mustache. Guys that are shaved totally bald, you just assume are bald and that's why they stay bald. Oli has a great head of hair and just decided he wanted to go Bick as a haircut. It's an incredibly bold and unique decision. It's very Oli Okina of him. But I think he's thrown it back and he sucks. It's wild. No one thought he had hair.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Always got the slicked back. He's got the slick back Keenan look with a mustache. He looked exactly like Keenan. I swear to God, because Kipper just put it in the WhatsApp, he just said, Keenan question mark. And I was like, oh, why, where's Keenan coaching? I thought he was in Italy or whatever. And then it said the article was like Yoli Yokin.
Starting point is 00:26:59 And it was a Finnish article on Oli. It was so funny. So I don't know. I'm not, I don't think you add. I think you add strategically when you trade away pieces that you want to trade. You're boring. Go get a centerman. Ryan O'Reilly's in Nashville.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Just pick them up. I don't think I, here's the thing. I've got two. You have three centers over 34. I've got two predictions. I don't think we've seen the last of Nashville. I think they can climb out of the dumps. You're drunk again.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Get out of. I will be this weekend, but not right now. Seriously? I think Nashville can climb up the dumpster, and I don't think Boston's done. I think Boston will make the playoffs. I think they'll be a playoff team, and they're going to,
Starting point is 00:27:46 this might galvanize this group. So here's the example. Throw those Western standings back up, Jack? 21. How many points difference between the flames and Nashville? There's so much hockey left. Well, this is the whole point. 15 plus games.
Starting point is 00:27:57 23 is 8, Ryan. So if Nashville plays at a point and a half better than the flames a month, that's it. Not even one full win. Point and a half a month, they will catch and pass the flames. It's a lot of teams, a lot of teams to leap frog. So out of the, look, the teams that are out of the playoffs, what would you bet your house on is Colorado?
Starting point is 00:28:20 Colorado, obviously. I don't see the bottom. Jack doesn't, my screen doesn't, Sorry, I didn't. We don't either. That's all we've got. So. I can tell you.
Starting point is 00:28:31 Yeah. From the bottom, working up, Chicago, Nashville, San Jose, St. Louis, Utah, Utah, Anaheim, 13, 15, Nashville's at 15, San Jose 16, St. Louis, 17, Utah, 17, Anaheim, 18. So Nashville's at 15? Yes. How many games played? 19.
Starting point is 00:28:52 Okay. So they, you won behind Edmonton and one. you know, Ben, and they're six points out, really. Six points out with $3.95 win percentage. I don't disagree with you, but what is it about Nashville specifically that gives you that inkling? I just think they're like you have slow start. You look at, okay, so they go and get Stamcoast and Marsa, so both of them were trigger men on the power play. Both of them come from settings where they've had tremendous success.
Starting point is 00:29:19 That's all they've known. It's taking them a while to settle in. I watched them the other day. and I'm like, this is a better team. Like, this is just a better team. Soros is starting to make saves. That's a big thing. The goalie keeps you out of the video room all the time.
Starting point is 00:29:32 So you get goaltending. I like that D. I think that D is mobile. I mean, I watched Yosi the other night. Unbelievable play. Like that guy, we forget how good he is. And then the forwards. Like, Stampco's had the game I was watching,
Starting point is 00:29:46 he had two goals. He looked comfortable. Like, he looked like, okay, hey, where, you know, that's the Stamco's. It looked like they were figuring out. where guys wanted to be on that power play. And five on five, I think they're fine. I think that's a team when we haven't seen the last stuff, put it that way.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Like they had such a dreadful start. But, you know, Pinda, you're right. If they chip away a point a point a month, you know, they're in that playoff hunt. And I don't know who comes out. I think Calgary makes the run. I think Calgary's going to play meaningful games for young players, all of that type of stuff. I just, I don't think. Where your mouth is.
Starting point is 00:30:22 What are we betting? because I'm not buying this BS that you're selling me. Stake, steak, steak, steak, steak. Okay, how about this? Dinner at Caesar Steakhouse, and I get two baskets of the cheese toast. He's going to say double cheese toast. Done.
Starting point is 00:30:36 Yeah. And so the reason you would believe in Nashville is because the roster is better than the results. And guys aren't playing up to, like, can Stamcoast be better? Is that a crazy thought? Yeah. Yeah, Marshall should be better. Is that crazy? Saros absolutely has tons of room to be better.
Starting point is 00:30:48 He's not been anywhere anywhere in your way. I agree. I agree. Like, I think they're ceiling. they haven't reached their where they can get to that's not like oh that's as good as they can play i guess they're not good jumped the gun on trying to get be better than they are by bringing those guys in i've said that since the start so it's easy for me to i don't disagree that but it doesn't mean that they can't be a bubble team right like they could yeah but what do you okay so i don't think
Starting point is 00:31:11 it's good moves i agree you guys are okay well they're going to be better than they are whole what a statement no no no no no then my statement is they're a playoff team they're a playoff team that's my statement. I don't like I don't know who comes out. That's not you hear trots talk the other day. Well, yes. How long is he given though? But you know what? It was a shot across the bow saying like, you guys get your act together here or I'll do the, you know, I'm going to do another step what I did last year with, you know, pulling the party in Vegas or whatever at the sphere. To me, it's like, okay, you guys want to act like this? Then I'll flush it down the toilet and we'll start over here. But I don't think there's no way he can do that based on all the no,
Starting point is 00:31:52 move clauses who you just signed all of that type of stuff it was just basically him saying like smarten up here like let's and i'm sure if he's saying it publicly guaranteed he's walk into that dressing room and said get your head out of your asses let's get going here yeah i'm not to get too block down in nashville because we'll jump back to the flames here but they were a playoff team already last year and then you added you spent 100 million or whatever it is and now it's i think they can get back to where they already were before you sign these guys i would guess probably the plan was to improve. Totally.
Starting point is 00:32:23 Not replicate. Anyway, getting back to the flames, we kind of, you know, before you came on, Red was, you know, the trade for a center happened about 90 seconds before you got on the feed. Yes, I was listening. It was a fresh take for sure. You know what? You have those revelations in your brain and it just, don't.
Starting point is 00:32:42 I know. Okay. So, okay, let's just, let's go over the roster who played last night, okay, for the Calgary Flames. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. Was it Ball, Uyghur, Bean, Anderson, Miramanov, and Paschal? Bahal, yeah. Pahal, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:00 That's the six. A weird one. They play the most. That's the most common group of six. Okay. So, Barry in and out for Bean now and then, that's about the only change you see. Right. Barry's, you know, Barry is what he is, right?
Starting point is 00:33:13 Yeah. Powerful. So is that a defensive core that you're growing with, that you love, that you feel? They are good. I'm telling you right now, that's the defensive core that plays solid in front of the guy that's in the pipes. Okay. He's allowing as good as Wolf is. They know what they have to do to make his job easier, and they're doing just that.
Starting point is 00:33:37 That's all they are. They're a stopgap. They're not going to be game changing. They're just going to do their job. Yeah, they're, they're NHL defensemen that are wearing jerseys. But there's two, I mean, Anderson, I love Uighur, I think, is a really, quality player. The other four, they play in the street. Like I agree with you. I think the other, like Miramano was an eight last year and it's hardly played the last two years in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:34:03 Like you just was a scrap heap guy. I just say I mean. And Bean was available for peanuts and has been healthy. Barry, nobody wanted. He showed up on a PTO. Hanley was on waivers last year. Like we understand that. But like ball was a piece that I think the flame strategically really went at. You know you have a young goal that you really want to give a good chance to. He's good at really one thing and that's defending. There's no offense. He's not an incredibly super mobile or amazing puck mover, but he's really good at shot suppression. When he's on the ice, there's not a lot of shots against your goalie. That's his strength. That's a very strong. Let me ask you. Let me ask you then. So when the dust settles and he reaches his potential
Starting point is 00:34:42 at the national hockey league level, where does he play? Is he a first pair? It's a four, five. but the championship team is probably five. So he's a five. Yeah, and a non-contentary's probably four. So he was a four or five. Okay. Nice player.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Right. Nice player. He's the pace bad in the trade. You got a first plus this guy. Okay. And Miramanov, what is that? That's a tougher question. I don't know what the hell he is.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I'm asking the defenseman. What's the defenseman got to say about me or manoff? He doesn't like Mirman. I've, we actually, Pinder, prior to you today, I'd never hear a, Mernov's name said except Pinder talking about him and that's fine with me because guess what you've said it I know it I lived it if you don't hear a defenseman's name
Starting point is 00:35:31 he's doing his job if you can play a guy in the top four and you don't notice and he's making a buck and a quarter my thought is like it's probably okay then that's what it's that we're hoping for Mirmanov not we some people were hoping for Miramanov to be better than is. He just is what he is, and it's fine. You're not hearing about him. It's not Zorov. They end up being kind of the same thing because Zadorov would make unbelievable plays, unbelievable impact on a game, and then soil himself, and they'd be in your net, and you're like, what's that? To me,
Starting point is 00:36:03 the door off is too high event for what he is. So, you're a man off is zero event. Right. But I mean, that's good. You'll, you, for me on a defensive core, you can only have like one of them. Oh. Oh. They have like three of them. They have like two for sure, maybe a three. It's all being an animal, so let's get away from that then. Are you upset with?
Starting point is 00:36:27 If Rhett's happy with the defensive corps, then you look at the forwards, okay? The Lamborghini, we all love, you know, the guy brings energy, all of that type of stuff. This Kirkland seems to be a nice story. Everybody loves him. You know who he is?
Starting point is 00:36:44 He's greener. Really? Josh Green? Yes. Comes in. Everybody loves them, having a hell of a time, tackling the mascot. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:56 So, and Rooney is a, you know, Rooney's a player that's thick. Like I just think of he's a NHL player, skate, all of that. Coronado, I like. He's got jam. He's a player. You know, Backland, backs we love, obviously can play
Starting point is 00:37:13 in every situation. And Coleman. Pullman's a winner. I think Coleman It's a guy who can help a team. So now you're a third line, right? That's a great third line. It's a good third line. It's a little nervous about. Shush.
Starting point is 00:37:25 Well, now we're starting to look above the third line, your top six, right? If we just went through the bottom six, the guys that I just named, you know, good, looks good. Like, looks good, sounds good, all of that. Like, that third line I really like. I think that's, you know, with Coleman, Backlund, and Coronado. Like, that's a good third line. This got a little bit of everything. Really solid.
Starting point is 00:37:48 Really? So Pospisal, is that how I'm pronouncing his name? You got it. Cadry and Kuzmenko. Trustworthy? Nope. You know, is that a line that you put up against? Nope.
Starting point is 00:38:06 A lot of other second lines of, you know, the 10 best teams in the NHL. Well, I got to look. If you laid on top of it on top of. each other. So Nazim Kadri is horseshit is what you're doing. No, I'm not saying that. But I'm saying as a combination of the three, if I laid those three or let's do the whiteboard, Darryl Sutter always used to do the whiteboard. So take a look at your matchups, right? There's the lineup here. There's their lineup. Here's our lineup. You've got to match up who you do, who you play against, okay? So if I'm laying pospso, Cadry, Kuzmenko,
Starting point is 00:38:46 Pick a contending team. Stop. Can I stop you for one second? Yes. Why is that the second line? Well, is that your first line? Maybe it's my third line. I liked it better as your second line.
Starting point is 00:39:01 Maybe Coleman Backland and Coronado. Or my second one. But then, okay, that's the equivalent of Lowry, Niederrider, and Appleton in Winnipeg. And I would take Winnipeg's third line over that. I didn't say we were winning the cup today. I'm just saying take 10 teams and lay that those lines beside each other. You're proving my point for me, buddy.
Starting point is 00:39:27 I'm just telling you. That's all you're doing right now. You are 100% proven my point for me. How am I proving your point? I'm just saying. You're going through the lineup and what you're saying is they're not quite there. So my connefeited needs to go out and get me a centerman. And now my slotting is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:39:45 and we can go up against any team because I got the goalie. Okay, so where's Connor Zeri's slot then? First line center? That's why I'm traded for a center. I know. Are you trading Zeri in that transaction? No. We're watching hot goaltending and now we're trying to look at the lineup and say it's
Starting point is 00:40:08 good enough. The lineup's nowhere near good enough. This is hot goaltending, fellas. 950 goaltending, you can win every now. Okay, if you're in 950, you're beating everyone. 950 goal tending keeps everybody out of the video room going. You know, if the Oilers had 950 goaltending against the Toronto Maple Leafs the other day, nobody pays attention to Evan Bouchard trying to throw a 100-foot pass across the ice
Starting point is 00:40:32 and he hits McDavid in the ass and it drops down. Like a check on that goal. Well, yeah, that's that's the other one. I'm talking, I'm watching, and I watch this Bouchard play live last night. I did that game and man, he is, you want to talk about high event. This guy is crazy. Look, I cut myself. Okay, what's up?
Starting point is 00:40:53 Stick to the flames and finish what you're trying to say. So you're going through the lineup. You don't have to go through everybody's name anymore. So what are you telling us? What I'm saying is get off the bandwagon. No, no. I'm saying look at it for what it is, is exactly what Pender's saying. You've got a great goaltending and you've got something there, some magic.
Starting point is 00:41:13 So let it play out. And you don't have to start making moves 20 games into the season. Because what if you make a move and it disrupts the apple cart? It actually kills the mojo. I think it's better to do it now than later because now you've got time to incorporate that guy. He's going to hang out with Kerkie and Lombo. I want to see Karnasari grow. I want to see him get better.
Starting point is 00:41:40 What are you going to take them out of the lineup? Take one of the other skids out. Isn't Kirk? Yeah. But my point is, is what is the currency that you're trading for this top line? It's not all kinds of currency. I think you're getting punked here, noodles. He's really putting a lot of weight in this argument we haven't heard all year or for the last two years.
Starting point is 00:41:54 It's just dawned on me. Well, let me ask you this, though. I mean, along that path, if they are going to be a wild card or better team for another two, three, four weeks, when does it shift? Because I have to think that Conroy and everybody, this is a rebuild. if not a rebuild, there are no expectations. Let's get some youth into the lineup. Let's get Wolf integrated into the number one spot. Let's just go and play and let these guys do their thing.
Starting point is 00:42:25 When does that potentially shift to, well, we're right there. We have a bunch of draft picks and that. For me, it's the deadline. Probably not all of them are going to be used on players we're going to use. Maybe we can do something with this team. For me, everyone says, okay, American Thanksgiving, you are what you are, but not with a young team. You are what you are with you're a contender and you're trying to add to it.
Starting point is 00:42:49 But I say, I agree. I think you're looking at the trade deadline and going, we're going to have to move a few players because of their contracts and we're just going to, you know, move off of them or move them for the sake of doing it. That's where you make a decision. Like I would make the- - So do what everybody else does and hope that you're just- But I would make the argument, rat, that if they were in this,
Starting point is 00:43:13 position at the deadline and everything had fallen into place. That's and Kuzmenko looks like he's, he's a piece of this like that, you can't move that guy. That's when you use the term own rent, own rental. You're like, okay, we're just going to let it play out because, you know what, we've found something here. But I just, I think there's too many question marks. I think you just let this play out because what happens if, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:38 Dusted Wolf is playing great and then all of a sudden he goes through a dip. And then you got Dan Vladar who's played very well or cool. Yeah, that's true. Coolie. Nice. Now, Bladar, you're probably going to have to move for a piece,
Starting point is 00:43:55 right? Now we're dismantling again. You guys are, no, but what you're doing is being a good manager and managing your assets. Like that's the thing. You could probably change your thought process on certain things. But there's certain players that you could probably
Starting point is 00:44:12 bet money that they are out the door regardless of this team is in first place or in last place. And I think maybe Vladar might be one of them based on what he's worth, right? Wow, and what Kooli's done too. And Wolf, like the whole combination
Starting point is 00:44:28 of it makes him very much expensive. So then where you nip around the edges is like, okay, you know, what would Kuzmanko get you at the deadline if you feel like now? Zero. Right.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I'm up right now. But if he doesn't give you, but here's a guy who's playing on your second line. I thought, you know, you've got to be a mainstay, but he's not going to get you anything. So then we probably would keep him if you,
Starting point is 00:44:52 if you're going. But I guess that's my point is if he doesn't have much value right now. You're sitting here telling me that the team that's way eight points behind them is going to make the playoffs because they went and spent a bunch of money. With the eight points, it's playing better and has the goaltender. And we're don't. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:13 So why don't we do this thing? At the end of the, like, let's choose a drop dead date where the, where the decision on Calgary or Nashville, who's in a better position for the steak dinner? When are you out here? Well, I know,
Starting point is 00:45:32 in December. There you go. We should have a steak dinner then. And then if it happens later and we meet and we happen to be in the same city, We'll do it again. Okay. So I'm out there in December because the Ottawa is there, December, what is it, 19th or something like that?
Starting point is 00:45:48 December 19th, Thursday, 7 p. Yeah. So I'm there. I'm calling that game. So that night or the night before? Probably not the night of that. That's acting a game calendar. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Night after something like that because I think I come in that morning. That's a good time. That's right around Christmas. So that we'll have a lot of clarity. That's the thing. So we let's pick up. this argument, see where we are December 19th, where Nashville
Starting point is 00:46:14 is, where Calgary is. I mean, I'm goofing and I was, but there will come a point where the Conroy's going to be, the boss is going to phone and say, close. Plans change? I love home playoff. The plans change?
Starting point is 00:46:31 And you guys know where that that, you know, the big, big boss, the owner. Yes. Yeah. So Murray, I mean, no, We just talked about. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Guaranteed, you know, that ownership loves to win and they like money. So there you go. So there, if there is, if they're close, there is a mandate to probably, you know, not mess with that. But I would think you're looking at the bigger picture, too, as, okay, can we have the best of both worlds? I don't even know what that means. That's, I think that's what he's going to try and threads that needle. He's that I still don't think in anyone's world, Conroy, Malone,
Starting point is 00:47:12 Murray Edwards, us thought that this is where the flames would be sitting 20 games into the year. No. So I mean, pleasantly surprised I guess, but I mean, isn't that what you you know, you drafted, developed, you know, you bring like a guy like, I 100%. I'm not, you know I'm bullshit. I'm just saying that they're, it's going to happen. They.
Starting point is 00:47:39 And it should happen. If they're in a position, and Wolf is playing the way he's playing, and the defense are doing what they need to do and only what they need to do, and you think that if you add, you've competed with two games, right? But there's got to be that four or five games skid somewhere in this.
Starting point is 00:48:01 Of course, the guys are not going to get this kind of goaltending all year. No one does. Like, you're talking about 950, even strength goal, goaltending. And we looked on the flip. not lasting. Jamie, they're scoring two goals a night. They scored four goals, their last three starts and Wolfe had three wins. Like those are not wins. Those are goalies stealing points.
Starting point is 00:48:17 This is not a sound roster. This is a goalie on a heater. Where is, I looked leading up to yesterday, but goals saved above expectation. I see those different everywhere. That's not a universal stat. Like, but he's. So I get. 10, like upper third of the league for start. Yeah. So I get, I get it sent to me every morning at 4 a.m. from sport logic. Yeah, I like the clear site stuff better for goaltending,
Starting point is 00:48:43 but I mean, it's much more subjective on goalies than other stats. The goal saves tricky. I think ClearSight, which is Steve Valakette's company, they're fantastic. I think they are the cream of the crop. I also like sport logic because of their data points too. But I'll look at the other ones online. They're not as, to me, they're just like data scraped from the,
Starting point is 00:49:09 the websites and stuff. I don't, I don't, I don't put much stock in them, to be honest. Yeah. So point being, like, we all know he's been good. We all know he's on a heater. He's stopping way more pucks than he should. And the team now has Rhett convinced they're good because the goal he's on a heater. He's presenting.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah, he's having fun. No, I mean, it's, it's, it's fun watching the win and Wolf's been great. There's a lot of warts here. And not to get into it, but the power play is no good. They've scored two first period goals this month. I mean, it's, there's a lot of high-paid forwards. They do need help for sure. But it's, yeah, it's a lot of the goaltending and defensive play right now.
Starting point is 00:49:48 What else is going on around the league? We don't. I mean, injuries, man. That OV had 15 goals and then Jack McBain just collides with him. It's such a weird. What a weird play, you know. McBain. McBain.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Well, actually, I don't know if you saw that because now, I didn't notice because I looked at the hit when it happened. but then yesterday somebody did a little bit of extra work here and i don't know if you can see it here on this shot oh it's actually it was actually way wayne a little protective of the uh of the record after all here we were told that he was all for it but i think i think i think ovi o miss a couple weeks and to be back that guy's a horse like he he tried skating it off too i bet he blew his knee out he skated it off like he he was trying to skate it off i was watching. I'm like, this guy's trying to shake
Starting point is 00:50:38 off a knee injury. I'm not convinced that my most favorite Ovechkin moment was him on the bench in Vegas when he just took the slapper off the on the face. Right off the bean. Well, on the face. Nothing. I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:54 you're not going to make him uglier, but you're certainly like he's just the beast. Like, I just I don't know, that guy is aren't we some training this summer, Dean? Yeah, we saw him. Massive boiler. playing volleyball. He's doing him.
Starting point is 00:51:08 He's just got up on the puck. You know what? Like before the political stuff came in, like he was a very likable guy. Like, think about it. Like, he was such a big personality when him and Sid came in because Sid's not a big personality, right? Like, he was the guy who was at the ESPN commercials. Remember he was golfing?
Starting point is 00:51:26 He got a hole in one. Like there's like, you didn't even know how to hit a golf club. Like it just, he's, he's pretty funny guy. I don't know again. I don't know him that well. I've crossed the pass with him a few times. I was at a party with him. He showed up with a bunch of his buddies.
Starting point is 00:51:40 They drank every ounce of alcohol, every ounce of vodka in that building. It was ridiculous. My buddy had to order more up. It was, but those guys are, you know, he's,
Starting point is 00:51:52 I'd like to see it. The Matthews thing, I think is weird too. Like, it just got released. You flew to Germany. Germany. The Germans.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Do we have things you press release on that? Is it that alarming? Like, we've seen this a lot. where guys just go to their specialists where they're over there in the world. I don't know. Saying something is even odd to me.
Starting point is 00:52:10 For me, a specialist is in like New York City, you know, a specialist is in, hey, there's a, you know, like, you're not outside of flying to Turkey for a hair transplant. I don't see people going to Europe. Like, it just is that I think what it is is it caught people off guard going,
Starting point is 00:52:29 okay, the germas are known for like stem cell, like type of stuff. So like, is that? what's going on like i i don't know like it just it's a weird weird that one kind of and and i think tree was just like oh yeah you know still on schedule and like okay this guy in skating and he's in germany like that's that kind of came out of left field yesterday um you know the league you know bouncing around the league it's just it's weird there's been some some injuries and some weird stuff going on what's the deal with demko what's the deal like is this is he done well i was going to
Starting point is 00:53:04 You guys were talking about Nashville and that. I mean, now Miller is gone from the team. They've already, their home record, what did they fall to last night? Because they were beaten by the Rangers. They were three of 11 home games. And Dempco is in the ether somewhere. I don't, I've never heard.
Starting point is 00:53:22 So I've been, you know, tracking that. You talk to people in Vancouver, they know the exact muscle that he's identified. It's like that, you know, flux capacitator of his knee. Right. And I'm like, and they're like, oh, no, you know, no, no athletes ever had this injury before. You're like, okay, but like, and then you get updates like talk or talk is going, yeah, he had a good practice today.
Starting point is 00:53:48 Like, you're like, oh, my God, like that's what you're getting for updates. It's like, this guy's got to, you know. Yeah, the anterior post, uh, bunch of pastor is. Just so, you know, you got Jack. He laughed out loud. I don't know if you could hear him, but you got Jack that one. So well done. Well, I don't, I'm just my point being, I just don't know what it is, but it's scary because he had the same injury in the playoffs where he was one practice away.
Starting point is 00:54:13 It's going to go on a year. It is the same injury. It is not healed. It's like, how long does this take? But that's the scary part. He was one practice away. He's one practice away from one practice away. Like you're like, okay, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:54:28 And, you know, they Lankin and had a nice start there, but like what's happened? he's come back down to earth and sheloff is a you know he was there three now he's there two like it's i feel bad for them because you know when it rains and pores and now nobody saw the j t miller stuff coming and i don't know what that is and you hope he's all right but it just uh you know they could be in one and besser is out yeah like you just you look through the league now last night i don't it's something to track hyman wasn't on the power play at the end of the game and i i don't know if he got nicked up. You're talking oilers now? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Yeah, okay. So right, the last power play of the game, they put Perry there instead of Hyman and Hyman, I don't think it took a shift the rest of the game. So it might be some, so you're talking about injuries throughout the league and then some weird stuff like Pittsburgh. I don't know what the hell's going on in Pittsburgh. Well, they're just not good. I mean, this is the whole thing. We all know what's happening here. Yeah, but everyone's waiting for the coach to get fired. They're not good and they still don't get enough saves. So Jim Montgomery has had in 200 games, Boston Bruins, he's had 41 losses. Can't coach the team. Sorry, you're the problem. I'm like, oh, my God. Like, what are you doing here?
Starting point is 00:55:45 And, and like, listen, I don't mind, like, Boston, they're savages. Like, we, everyone talks about, you think, like, look at Vegas. Vegas is like, doesn't matter. Mark, on your flagship player, get the hell out of here. Marcia's so, out you go. Like, it just doesn't matter. Like, you know, coach Peter DeBore, love you, out the door. Like Boston's got a little bit of that cutthroat. Bruce Cassidy, no, out you go.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Cassidy goes and wins. Like now Montgomery's a great coach. He's known as a great coach, too. Like I talked to a lot of people in the coaching circles. They're like, this guy's an unbelievable, like, a savant as far as, like, vision and stuff. And I'm not good enough. So I don't know, but that's why I think that that might spark that group and maybe wake them up a little bit. Because Swamen wasn't stopping enough pucks. Pastor Nack's not scoring enough.
Starting point is 00:56:41 Marchand looks like he had three surgeries in the offseason, which is fair. He did. And to Montgomery's credit, I guess. I mean, he tried to coach. He got into it with Marchand. He benched Pastor Nack. He took McAvoy off the power play. I mean, he tried to do things to get things going and they just did not respond.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Well, we'll see if they get a new coach bump, right? You see if they get that. And they're only one game under 500. It's all kind of lumped up in the Atlantic anyway. So, you know, you're, if they, they probably felt they do it early enough so that they can save their season. That's probably what they're thinking. Yeah, I don't think anyone was hanging this on Montgomery so much as like something's dysfunctional though. You need a fresh start.
Starting point is 00:57:21 Yeah, it's weird. But there's lots going on in the league. Like, you know, I just, I'm even like, who's stopping Pucks for Carolina? like Freddie Anderson's out like Rod, that just quietly, Rod Brindamore goes, yeah, he's week to week, you know, like week to week. Every year, though, that's not new. That doesn't slow them down.
Starting point is 00:57:42 At some point, you've got to go, I think Carolina, I watched them the other night, they're a hell of a team. They just need stability in that position. So it's like, okay, we, we can trust what's like a guy wants to play or can play for us nightly. Spencer Martin gets a shut out the other night,
Starting point is 00:57:59 but he's not your answer. When they got that cochette cough, like, he's young and I just, I don't trust him as a clear one. So there's lots of, like, good teams. There's lots of things going on. Maybe they come after Dan Vladdar. You never know. Good.
Starting point is 00:58:14 Yeah. They come up. Well, and, you know, maybe because what, Joe Sacco is the interim there in Boston. Yeah. Well, we found, we found a pick. Uh-oh. Mike Keenan might be available because it looks like,
Starting point is 00:58:28 because you talked about. Keenan, has he officially retired? The Sacco's probably just holding this spot, right? Yeah, I mean, because they found, there he is. Behind that. Did that not look like Keenan? Oh, my God, it looks like one of those AI face melds. Ah, my brain hurts.
Starting point is 00:58:47 That's what was sent to me. I woke up to that in my, my group chat, not my group chat, just my, what is that called, WhatsApp with Shipper. That's it. I have never interacted with Oliokin. I cannot imagine that's a normal human. Like he seems like an absolute wild card. Guys like him, right?
Starting point is 00:59:05 He's a good guy. Yeah, he's a good guy. Yeah, he's funny. He's actually pretty funny. That is full Keenan. I just don't know how you trust the guy that goes, takes it right to the wood when you can grow. That's what I mean. That's weird.
Starting point is 00:59:16 You know what it is? It's arrogant. It's cocky. It's like, I know I can grow it back. Yeah, not worried about it. Like Iggy always claimed that that he shaved his head. and then I saw him on TV the other day getting interviewed and I'm like, oh, no, no, no, that part would never grow back.
Starting point is 00:59:33 That is not. No, that's Seinfeld right there. Yeah, that's what it is. That was LeBron too, right? Didn't he have? Oh, LBJ. He had help. He had, he had, he was like Elon Musk.
Starting point is 00:59:45 It was like back here and all the sudden. Daniel, the granite. There's nothing. And then all of a sudden it's flush. In the Granville, that's right. He had a salad on the river apparently. He had no chance. And then he had a, it was flush.
Starting point is 00:59:56 He had a full wig. He won the World Championship of hair replacement. That's what you did. Yes, you have the bracelet and everything. Flight to Turkey. Appreciate you, James. All right. Get that tree figured out.
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Starting point is 01:00:44 You caught fire right when we with a guest? It dawned on. Yeah. You ever have something dawn on you? It doesn't happen. It doesn't happen very often. So you've got to really embrace it when it I do you guy. I don't know if I like that idea.
Starting point is 01:01:01 We got a center. 900 goal. Shit, we still suck. Yeah. No way. No, look, I think the point you're making is totally real if it's the spring. Here's the other question, though. Can the goaltending, no.
Starting point is 01:01:16 But what's the floor? It's not going to go to 875, I don't think so. But you lose the last three games if you don't have 950. You've scored four goals your last three wolf starts. Yeah. You've scored four. shouldn't win any of those in the NHL. That's what a good goalie does for you.
Starting point is 01:01:32 It's what an exceptional goalie allows you to do, no question. And so if Wolf is Mika 2.0, everything changes. You add at the deadline for sure, but you can't be calling anyone Mika 2.0 in November. You're going to get a long runway here. He's been great. And I don't want to take anything away from what he's done. It's been awesome. It'd be great to go back.
Starting point is 01:01:51 He's better than Mika. Just make it. Mika didn't win a bunch of. I said he's playing great. You said we're putting pressure on. I'm calling Mika, better than Mika. The HL, the WHL, and the... He's done drugs today.
Starting point is 01:02:04 You know what, you are? Your bucket tipper. You're tipping the bucket right now. I'm not tipping nothing. You kind of are. I'm filling the bucket. Are you? My confident.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I can't even say. Good, good word. Connie. Fine, don't get a center and squandered peak pain. Where to go, Craig? No, no, no. Not peak pain. You were at the game.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Yep. And aside from, I mean, the hell did you go to the game for? The crowd. It's wrong with it. Pro sports. Why would I go to a game? This was a punishment. Well, I was going to say, it was dead for 40 minutes.
Starting point is 01:02:38 And then the third was lively. Yeah. Especially the second half when it was a game. They started to move in the third at least. Well, and you get the big saves early that brings people to life. And you're like, shit. Like, he's keeping them in this. They don't really have any business being in this game at this point.
Starting point is 01:02:49 If two of those go in, it's three nothing. Like, just go. Yeah. I was going to say, you do this show every day and you talk for hours at a time and it will change. But the concerns that you had for Wolf, are you going to handpick starts and how many can you get? Because you don't want to, the D is going to be so bad.
Starting point is 01:03:10 You don't want to blow out his confidence and all this sort of thing. The forwards probably be all right. The offense would be there. Holy Christ, do you guys want to pick it up a little bit? There's a lot of guys who are either zero in the goal column or a single. won over the last 7, 8, 10, 12 games. Even here, I was got six, but like kind of lost in all of this, so much focus on how great Wolf's been and the defense or whatever.
Starting point is 01:03:40 But if Wolf, go ahead. Like Sharon Govich, Cadry, Kuzmiko has one goal. Like, these are big money, high level guys that are not doing anything. Because Michael scored at a 40-goal pace since his arrival in Vancouver. He scored 39 in his first year in the NHL. Outside of being coached by Rick Tockett, he's been a guy that scored it essentially a 39, to 40 goal pace. Like, there's nothing like that.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Now, I get a snake bitten and he's going to get some better luck. You know, the shooting percentage is unsustainably bad, but he's not been a dynamic scorer. It's all right. But hell of a movement. And he makes that one spinnerama backhand sauce to weed two bodies on the tape. And you're like, that should be a turnover every time. How does he do it?
Starting point is 01:04:19 And yet he's that one goal. But the, the, if Wolf's going to come back to Earth a little bit, can't we expect that those guys are going to. Yeah, sure. And the power play can be better. Improve somewhat, too? Yeah. I know.
Starting point is 01:04:36 So maybe you score six goals in your last three games instead of four. You might still lose all three, right? You might still win all three. If you're getting the good goal to inning, you are, yeah. Even if your goal tenet isn't quite as good. My whole thing is this is just all the goalies right now. I think it's an organized hardworking group that does not have a lot of skill. And the goalies have been.
Starting point is 01:04:53 I've played on teams that have been a goal away from winning a Stanley Cup because of that. Goalie. Yeah. No, I'm with you. And so if this team's there at the end of Feb, absolutely, you go bolster. This save in the third, the Islander's head coach is Patrick Waugh. Pat Roy? That's right.
Starting point is 01:05:12 Did he play? Do you have? He did. Wouldn't he got man? I don't have that. So he might know a thing or two about being young, getting thrust into the league, playing well, being young and taking a team into the playoffs into. Expectations, prospect, all that.
Starting point is 01:05:30 He commended, he said that he specifically said in the third period, the save off of Palmieri is a hell of a save. And this is it as it goes back door. And again, I can't. It looks routine. But I feel like as you watch this, Wolf is moving to his left. Look at where his eyes are.
Starting point is 01:05:53 He's not looking at Palmieri at all. He's trying to look around the defender to find this point. shot look where his eyes are yeah and he somehow gets square and somehow knows that it's there it's going to be a one-timer and just scoops the puck up and oh he's square to it he's not all big deals right like and how and that's the thing to get square on that puck that quick it's meka ask hey that lateral movement you're the goalie golly god dad dad i watched meika play that's all i'm saying i watched he can move laterally and made saves he had no business making and they made them look routine that's that's what this guy's turn out of score i've got it written down just in case it
Starting point is 01:06:37 you guys always add a score is always to my ideas slash center and then oh oh i don't think you're right we have been skeptical of some of your philosophy decades yeah it's been a long time there's it's changes in the weather in calgary it's like yeah out of score tear it all down fire the coach love the sky. You have to support what you, the players are doing. You got to give them a bit of a boost. Oh,
Starting point is 01:07:08 you guys are going to listen to your coach and work hard and your goaltending is going to be good and we're a goal away from being in first place. Oh, I won't do anything. I, what's that, Murray? Like, too bad.
Starting point is 01:07:24 The, uh, noodles talked about middle ground. Like, is there meat in the middle. Like, there is a world where you trade downblot on not for pick. It's for like you go find a team needs a goal and you go find a 23 year old on a
Starting point is 01:07:35 depth chart that you can think can play the middle. It could play today. Like it doesn't have to be UFAs go out and picks come in. It can be players. We saw that with the Tofoli deal. Sharon Gov, which is a more important piece than the third rounder, soon he was playing well, but they're not all just futures deals, right? He's added roster players on a lot of these deals. Miramano was just a throwing guy. He's playing tough for you don't notice him. He makes nothing. That's a good ad. Like he's not a star he's not great but if you play top four for a buck in a quarter and not get noticed that's a really nice add into a deal that has a first to the top power play t he what a high end defenseman like power play special yeah go get carlson hey there's a high end guy
Starting point is 01:08:17 lots of gas friends kind of call me yeah call us up not that we don't have connie fitness in you but call us separately because there's just so many different ideas yeah Or just listening to the show, I guess. Didn't you get it all. I know that the lady in his life, she is a watcher, listener. She is confidence. I think she does have connoffidence for sure and Craig. As we all should.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And she would know best. As we all should. 19 games in playoffs. Didn't think we'd be having this conversation for sure. Of all the things we'd talk about. Well, we aren't going to talk about the Islander's game last son. I can tell you that. Yeah, it was.
Starting point is 01:09:00 He survived the first 40. And to go back to yesterday's conversation. Peace and where's in two years from now, what does that team look like? Old. It's not like they've got good. They have Sorokin, which is lovely, but they're just, they don't have kids. Like Wallstrom and Brand and who's the other youngster? Matt Martin can keep playing.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Walstrom. Holmstrom. They do, they do squeeze all of the life out. Like you were talking about Bolton. Like he played right till the end. Cal Clutterbuck, they got every ounce out of him. the same with Sazikas and Martin right now. Lee, Pajou,
Starting point is 01:09:35 uh, Brock Lobster, like, there's a loyalty. That's Lou. Can you imagine trying to sell tickets there? When the Rangers are like 20 minutes away, and it's like Fox,
Starting point is 01:09:46 Zabinajad, Panera, Lafrenier, Truba, Chasturkin, and like, oh yeah, you could come watch. Anders Lee scored 20 again.
Starting point is 01:09:57 The Brock. He's a good player. It's just, there's nothing sexy about that team. You saw it last night. What is sexy about the Islanders? You saw the unsexy goalie, but they're not bad, but there's nothing sexy. It was okay.
Starting point is 01:10:08 But yeah, there's not a. And so if Sorokin can give them 925, they'll probably be an eight or a nine seed there. Like you say, if you go up to the, what is it, IBS, you hear it about arena. And you're going to put two or three murals on the, on the outside of the islanders. Come and who is. It's Sorokan, Barzell, and I don't know. Dobson. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:10:34 Probably. Yeah. Yeah, probably. That's I almost, it's a money. Horvatt? Yeah, he's the captain. Horvatt would be in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:41 That's a nice player. Yeah. They're not bad, right? It's just their. What about us? So what about that? Yeah, there are. How old is you?
Starting point is 01:10:48 How old is you? How old? Probably too many and too old. Do you want a third? We have a lot of that, though, so it seems to fit. He's 29. You guys are. ignorant no i know but it's max term he'll have what six years left in that sorry no he's he's
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Starting point is 01:11:55 I'm, uh, what you want. It takes on up there tomorrow. Tires. Yeah. Bullied his way in, waited to the... Suck on that! Who? Oh, yeah, what?
Starting point is 01:12:09 You all put this in danger, mate. All right, settled out. You didn't want to talk about this the other day you wanted to keep it. Well, apparently we talked about everything in the show, so let's fire it off. Let's go. Rhyndy, Ryan Pinda. Rhympin'o. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Flames, victorious last night. Let's take a look. That's right. that's what Dustin Wolf was saying to all the haters look at that outfit it's a good kid it is a really good kit if you're posting a long time he's going to posting the other helmet not the I know yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:12:42 this is a very likable fellow and I'm sure many people are surprised by Dustin Wolf's performance can we think of one guy that's probably not surprised at all at how it's gone for Dustin Wolf yeah he's done this at every single level of hockey this ain't new here's this last five starts fellas 946 a shutout one fifth point five calls against and he somehow has an overtime loss in there that's the thing he is dragging this team to points every night he starts
Starting point is 01:13:11 it seems the dip is coming but how deeps the dip right is the dip 920 like because it's 945 it's a horrendous dip you've had it's a it's a meka dip remember he played poorly he'd let in like four and the next night you're like nothing goes in just you know wall yeah uh here uh here it is four normal goals their last three games well that's just not no it's a stat category out and not in the empty net like how play normal normal goals four goals their last three home games they've won them all yes that is indeed decimal that for match six and gasoline good tweet thank very much let's keep going oh dean you love some of this stuff we're going to really get into it for you um there's dust and wolf never mind the freaking rookie of the year rookie of the year
Starting point is 01:13:59 all the trophy. I'm doing it right now. 101. Don't buy coffee today. You'll have $4,500 in the spray. Well, man, I'm not going to guarantee that. That's a very large number. That's not right. No, I'm not doing it. Jinks.
Starting point is 01:14:11 Okay, sure. Dustin Wolf don't give a shit with you. He sure doesn't trust me. This is what Dean really loves. He doesn't like being jinksy pants. He loves diving into past draft classes. Yes, I do. Dustin Wolf's draft class. Obviously, these guys
Starting point is 01:14:27 know what I'm doing. Very excited. They're not leaving the best guys. for the end of the draft, they're picking them at the top of the draft. Here are all the goalies in the 2019 draft. Spencer Knight 13. His team made it two world juniors consecutively. His fellow American has been, well,
Starting point is 01:14:41 in and out of lineups, up and down. It's certainly not established himself as a number one. He is playing behind Sergey Bobrovsky. Didn't really play last year on the run. They had Stolars. Offi stuff. Okay, inconclusive, let's say. Piotr Kiotr Kv, we just talked about
Starting point is 01:14:59 with noodles. Good goalie. Not sure if he's the one. Mad Sogard came up, beat the flames. They got Christopher Gibson by him a couple of last year. Huge, talented. I don't know if he's any good. Hunter Jones, don't know you. Eric Portillo, who? Great sandwiches at Portillo's. Ilia, Cona Lavala, kind of not going to work here anymore. Draft by the Oilers, that's tough. All those guys. And then this guy, four picks from the end of the draft. Dean, you're the draft guru. Please walk us through this.
Starting point is 01:15:29 It's a good pick. you back to me uh back to you standings are as such we showed you them earlier flames out of the wild card darn where did they slide to no they've moved up to the top three in the pacific and are now point out of first Vegas holds a game in hand they're tied with identical records with the kings who they beat right what do you think when you see that yeah ret get a center get a center yeah look at one bloody point if we were going to say start of the season going into night number one on November the 20th, the flames are going to be one point out of blank. 10th.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Basement. Right? What would you have said? Not lead of division lead. Not out of chance. Whole playoff game. One point from tops in the division, three points from being out of the playoffs. It is a tight pack in the Pacific, friends.
Starting point is 01:16:21 There is no Winnipeg running away. Interesting. And you noted with Vancouver. All of a sudden, there's some adversity they're going to be faced here. They have not gotten good goal to any. They don't have them go to go two of their best. forwards. Patterson playing better, but yeah, not out of the woods. So they're not playing so well that they don't want to
Starting point is 01:16:38 rush Demko back, you know what I mean? Uh, we'll keep going. Schedule. Schedule. What do they got? Two more on the four game homestand. I could pick a rat there. They just flashed them. They're done with the New York Islanders. They want to have the New York Rangers. That's one of the great goaltending battles of all time. She's Sturkin against Wolf. Let's go. And then The wild 2 o'clock on a Saturday. And Gustafson's been sensational. Maybe the best goalie in the NHL this year.
Starting point is 01:17:08 So some interesting opponent net minors coming up. Then they hit the road. They'll play four in a row, Ottawa, Detroit, Columbus, Pittsburgh. The Columbus one's going to be the emotional one. That's a one o'clock Friday start. Do you worry about playing him too much that he plays so well you can't take him out? That's kind of what we're watching, isn't it? Once they stopped alternating, they have stopped alternate.
Starting point is 01:17:29 What's that Kipper record? It's probably too late already. 71 starts, 72 starts. We already played too many games. 74 starts. Tough to get to. But seriously, where you're like, well, if he goes, like, you can't take him out. Okay, I get it.
Starting point is 01:17:41 And if he plays the next game and gives up one and you win. Oh, it's the best kind of problem you could ever have, right? It's the meek it probably had no four. That's the point you're getting to, I know. You're not going to not play him every game. Yeah. Obviously. Why?
Starting point is 01:17:57 This is such a silly conversation. It really is. They've got two very good teams. They're winning and he's the reason. How do you take them out? You don't. If they keep winning, you keep playing them. Eastern standings.
Starting point is 01:18:10 Rangers have been good. They, in the metro, well, 25. So again, look how tight is. There are two points from leading the division with a game in hand sitting in a wild card. Odd. Washington, Carolina, New Jersey and them all in a clump, separate four teams separate by two points.
Starting point is 01:18:27 So they're playing for stuff here. yesterday Jim Montgomery got axed. We talked about it with noodles. It's incredible. He's been nothing but a very, very winning coach. It was an off-ice issue that never got publicized. That ended his stint in Dallas.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Took some time away. Came back. It was great with the Bruins. How good? Well, Frank Baum, Dean. In 184 games, he lost just 41 times. And ready to... Frank Baum, Frank Baum, it's a Frank bomb.
Starting point is 01:18:58 It's not really a Frank bomb. It's just, yeah, 41 regulation losses in 184 games. That's 120, 41 and 23. The points percentage, Jack, 715 did I see? Put it back up. 715. Yeah, 715. Listen, Jim, we're going to have, we got to meet with you.
Starting point is 01:19:12 We've got to talk. Jim, we have a performance review. If you don't mind sitting down. It's like, guys. Bob's in from consultants. Have a seat here. The goalie's got an 800 safe percentage. Fellas.
Starting point is 01:19:22 What are we doing? We told Jim to go a net. He wouldn't do it. Had to fire him. Listen, Jim, if you can't get to goal, tending to be better. You got to let you go. There's a lot here, but there's some good stuff.
Starting point is 01:19:34 This is from Donald's Gishon. The team's latest effort against Columbus, a likely lottery team that stormed into Boston and trounce them 5-1, was already their fifth lost this year by four or more. That's as many as they've had in the last 202 regular season games, and maybe the biggest red flag that the Bruins might be done. Sometimes good teams lose. Sometimes good teams lose big, but good teams do not lose this big,
Starting point is 01:19:57 this often, this early. They've made the playoffs in eight straight. That's it. And they've only averaged less than three big losses a year. They have five already. 20 games in. Are the Bruins done? This is the question, friends.
Starting point is 01:20:12 Good, hopefully. Okay. It's Bruins. I'm worried about it. Get the sabers in there, hey? You know, the other thing you're seeing is already the, what have we done? Yep.
Starting point is 01:20:22 With Lindholm. Well, look, it's Lindholm and it's Cedorov. And if you asked fans in Calgary, of Vancouver, what's the level of surprise of this? Zero. Correct. Yeah. I don't know what the Bruins were watching, but the contracts they gave out to those guys are not UFA wins.
Starting point is 01:20:37 Not signing Lindholm is like, that's like Craig signing a good center. It's his internal rental. That's right. It's, you know, we're better by not having him here. The hell you're talking about, damn right. Damn right. Imagine if you've forked over nine for fear of,
Starting point is 01:20:53 and still we're not good. Have some conifidence. that he's not an idiot. Like this guy. But this is what we get back to the Bruins. What did they think they were buying with these two? And did they really think spending the amount of money they spent in free agency, which is basically like walking into bear traps,
Starting point is 01:21:10 try not to get your leg snapped off. But okay, now I have to headbutt you a little bit because you don't like the traditional way of doing business, free agency. But on that, you say that, but then on the other hand, you're like, wait until the trade deadline to go pick someone up, which never works out either. No, I'm not. What do you mean?
Starting point is 01:21:30 With the flame. In 2004 is a similar spot, hot goalie. You waited later in the season. You had Chris Simon, you had Ville Neiman, and who else did you add? Yeah, but those were nice. Those were nice. Roll players. You don't need a role player.
Starting point is 01:21:42 So that didn't help you? How to get the deadline? I thought those were really big pieces for you guys. I don't think those were that. Okay. What about the addition of To Foley? That was an early. That was December?
Starting point is 01:21:53 That was an early trade. My point being, why you poo-poo, and rightfully so. So we poo-poo free agency. And we have disdain for, we get excited about trade deadline acquisitions, but very rarely are they a good piece of business. But let's follow the traditions of the way everyone's done business. I'm sick. Get outside the box. I don't mind you being outside the box.
Starting point is 01:22:26 You're getting very macro on me. I'm just saying, like, the Bruins had maybe the greatest UFA signing in the history of the game. Zanachara was actually big money UFA that was a huge win. That again comes back to Ottawa being idiotic, more Ottawa on Ottawa than the Bruins being brilliant. Is there a bit of this? It's not just probably not even good comparable. I was going to say San Jose, where you have to have some, what are we?
Starting point is 01:22:50 Are we good or we not good? We were the best regular season team two years ago last year, maybe some bad luck. Virgiln's gone. There's a center. We can get a setter. We're good. We're still good. Look, we're even better on paper.
Starting point is 01:23:03 And it's, you're too close to it. Noodles said it. That is a cutthroat team and they are trying to do the right stuff. But I don't know if I'm going to fire. And to Red's point, like with Nashville, it's not easy to have very big minute players come into new environments and immediately succeed. Or ever.
Starting point is 01:23:25 Like, how long did it take McKenzie Weger to look like a good flame? Four months? Too long for Coach Rett's. Rett would have him floating in an ocean right now. Like he... Glad we didn't trade him. Yeah, hanging on to him was the right choice. Although if you did, you'd probably, maybe you'd have that center.
Starting point is 01:23:45 And then you'd probably signed Hanifah. I think there's a lot to that that we don't really, we talk about all this stuff. We don't think about that. When you change, everything changes. City, teammates, structure, coach. system, everything's changed, and it's not it doesn't work, it doesn't work right away. It doesn't, it doesn't always work. Doesn't always work right away.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I ask you this. What? Not your math question. Are we now, because we've, this is a Pinda report on shut up. We're good. Are we close now when you talk about adding a player, Lomburg comes in. Are we close to now between Huska,
Starting point is 01:24:21 Conroy, that you know the type of player that you need when you bring in a Calgary flame, not just a good player. It's like, yeah, he's good, but does he fit the way we need to play? Because I feel like we're kind of getting there. I think so, right? I think there's an identity. I don't think they went out and said, God, we got to get our hands on that Kuzmenko.
Starting point is 01:24:41 That was like to help get a deal done. I don't think he's a flame guy. Yeah. But if they move him out for a player, it'll be more of a flamesy type guy. Yeah. There's an identity how they play. There's an identity. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Because we've said it and it just came up with noodles. What's your first line, second line? it's not you'd love one line to be scoring a lot more which would but when one line comes out after the other the style of play doesn't dip it's kind of the same they're well structured they work hard uh okay so the jack adams thing we talked about uh jim it's not going to be jim montgomery no but actually here's the funny thing not that long ago may of 23 how long ago is that dean um well just a year and a half uh here are your finalist for coach of the year Montgomery haxstle lindy ruff all three have been fired just 18 months later.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Cutthroat business. It is the kiss of death. Shoot me in the face. And of course here, it was the year after Darrell won, see ya, and the year after Hartley won, see ya. Kiss of death. Huska, I would take it back. We don't want you one in that Jack Adams.
Starting point is 01:25:42 I saw him in a white t-shirt. I said, whoa, whoa. You can go to the Mr. Loo. He's not winning the Jack Adams. Scott Arneal is. Sorry, call me. Bob Hartley is not winning the? No.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Oh, okay. You don't want him winning it. Then he's going to get around. He's not. Tommy's going to be excited about it. Wittipig Jets are off to the best start ever. Hoska doesn't want. He's the only going to talk about what.
Starting point is 01:26:05 November. Can't talk about it. Yeah, in the combat. He's never want to talk about. You can't talk about. Tonight, what do we got? Let's look at the games. Go, go, go.
Starting point is 01:26:12 Vegas, Toronto, we talked about in the center of the universe. Cains of Flyers, sure. Sharks, Dallas, sure. Preds, Seattle. If they're, if they're going to do it, they got to start beating teams like Seattle. Like if you are actually going to be okay, start beating some teams that, you know, are mid or worse. And Sabers Kings is interesting.
Starting point is 01:26:31 Kings all of a sudden passed by the flames. And they make it Tage Thompson back tonight. He's been taking morning skates and practicing. They haven't played since the weekend. Both those kind of been on a sneaky little heater here. They're all right. Boston wants to soil themselves. Maybe that opens the door for one of those young Atlantic teams.
Starting point is 01:26:50 We'll move. Do you like AFC North football, boys? I like football. Do you like winter? Do you like bad weather? Do you like running the football? Just like piles of muck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:26:59 I like taking money on the jack. Look at this forecast for the Thursday night or tomorrow. Rain and showers before the kickoff. Then rain and snow. Mostly cloudy. Low around 36. What's freezing? Red.
Starting point is 01:27:11 32. Oh, baby. West wins 12 to 20 miles an hour. And 80% chance we get moisture. New rainfall amounts 10th and a quarter of a minute. Like this is ugly. ball, two teams that aren't offensively super gifted. Sorry, Jack.
Starting point is 01:27:26 This is going to be a muckfest, Jack, tomorrow night. This is over under 36 and a half and going down. This is not. If you're into high flying offenses, this is not. So who does this suit better? It helps the yucky Browns or the run the ball stealer. What do we like you? Steelers can play any game, Ryan.
Starting point is 01:27:44 Hey, Jack, can you just throw on some earmuffs? Yeah. I saw the stat this morning. Yeah. The Steelers have never. won a road divisional Thursday night game. 0 and 7 all time. Oh and 5 under Tomlin.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Tomlin all in on the road Thursday nights, 2 and 8. It's a Sunday guy. You know what? All the numbers, good for Tomlin against Harbaugh, but all the numbers are bad for Thursdays. Okay, get Jack back. We won't Tomlin.
Starting point is 01:28:10 Nice, Jack. Just a quick little kind of sidebar thing. We showed you the art. Did we show you the art? Love the art. We had, uh, what, Russ, Pittsburgh, somebody. Well, I saw Russ had a little, he must have been doing some,
Starting point is 01:28:22 uh, is this a press, sir? Some editing, some video, because he put a thing on his Twitter, but it had some music underneath and we'd have gotten flagged for it. But he's,
Starting point is 01:28:32 he's, he's riding or doing whatever he's doing. He's Mr. Unlimited. He's sussy for, yeah, I don't know. He looks good though.
Starting point is 01:28:37 Hey, Jack. Oh, yeah. That's your quarterback. You should get that tattoo. Those yellow pants are awesome. What a look. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:45 It's good to you any, Jack. Black and yellow, black and yellow, black and yellow. Great Cup ceremony festival party thing wasn't a parade. No, you don't want to traffic's terrible. Yeah, it's already bad enough. Taylor Swift there shutting down roads. Three, twenty, four, Grey Cup champion. We'd like to see the crowd.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Excited. I love that music. Just. Oh, yeah. You guys like bears? I wanted to get there. I just couldn't get a flight. Congrats to the Argos.
Starting point is 01:29:38 All that is win cups. Dave, pick it up. They got like a Jim Montgomery winning percentage in Grey Cup games. It's wild. 41 losses. How are you bears? Do you not have that?
Starting point is 01:29:50 Who they got this week? They got by what do they get on? Bears. 41 Coors Light? It doesn't matter. They've given up the Hail Mary. They had the block kick. It's all.
Starting point is 01:29:59 It's hard they're going to tell. Here's some bears that are going to watch. Check this out. Oh. Oh, buddy. Remember when once in New York as long as she's like this. There. And a little bit.
Starting point is 01:30:13 What do we do here? You can't have those as pets. You're not a lot. The stradophile a lot. The dogs. No bears. Land. You're called the landlord.
Starting point is 01:30:23 That damn neighbor. Yeah. That Warner's got a bear. Okay. She, sure yeah probably just a big dog maybe a new from like there's all kind of bear there's all kinds of noise in the apartment upstairs i i think there's some wild animals in there all right warner crazy old crazy old rod loading a truck at the zoo okay yeah we got to go all right edna we'll take a look
Starting point is 01:30:47 goodbye it's actually bears now you're getting into mountain biking is that right one mountain bike ever since you could get electric bikes i've been in a mountain bike yeah this just e-bike up and then just mount like down there you go I'm getting good. You're getting good. You're getting good. You're getting good. Oh,
Starting point is 01:31:16 You're getting good. She's hairy arms. It's backstroom? All right, next we got more bike videos from Ratt. Let's go. Let's keep her going. I'll bet that guy got a lot of money for doing that. Yeah, so much. So you did this for free, though.
Starting point is 01:31:39 these moves, Reds. Yeah, very impressive stuff. Hop, hop, hop, hop. Hop on pop. I'd fall just trying to get on it. Well, it gets better. Look at this.
Starting point is 01:31:51 Oh, boy, Rhett! Wow. You're welcome. Anything I can do to help the Pender report. Well, you're not all over the place, sir. The problem was, you and the shoveler went for a bike ride together, and she's not as good as you are, and bad things happen sometimes when you're not ready. Wow.
Starting point is 01:32:12 Dear, get out of here, dear. They are dumb. Are they really dumb? They seem dumb. What a hit, though. Yeah, timed it perfectly. No principal contact on the head. Yes, within two seconds of playing the puck.
Starting point is 01:32:38 No call from our boy in New York. You're good. Dickinson could use him probably on the corner. Yes. Right. Pick him up. Call us, Dave. Pick him up.
Starting point is 01:32:50 Pick him up. Pick up him. Rest work on his parkour. Everyone's one up in each other. Check this out. I'm jacked. Wow. Background you found right where is it.
Starting point is 01:33:05 Wuffold. Just a lot of it. This was for like you can here. Oh, he ho. And Jasper was winner. This is where things get a little dice because they go no hands. Oh. Oh.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Wow. Bulls are rocking. I bet you got paid a lot of them. Put your shirt on and show. And finally, we all love a good golf cart. Nothing quite like a golf car. Oh, Dean.
Starting point is 01:33:36 When he golfs, all he wants to do. Cart around. You're the coolest guy in the parking lot, and then this guy shows up. That's perfect. It's spectacular. Probably going to be some foam in that keg.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Don't care. I don't begrudge him the efforts. What are you? going to do what are you going to do look it just living his best life good job bud is that me looking into crystal balls that that is wow yeah god that's good i'm proud of myself there yeah that's florida man oh throw the keg of the gator okay that's it pinn report wednesday no animal get your snow tires on there's a deer there was a deer there was a deer and the bears that you read the strata's upset about at village honda they want to buy your used vehicle get your
Starting point is 01:34:29 complimentary appraisal done today. And if they do buy your vehicle, you'll get a voucher for a cruise for two. Bam. That's putting your money where your mouth is at Village Honda, Northwest Automol, VillageHonda.com. Which buddy would I take if I won the cruise? Yeah, I mean, we're going to run a lot. Well, don't take Jack. It would be a lot of it.
Starting point is 01:34:49 Get the bingo balls going. You want to go on a cruise with Pindree? I'm not going anywhere with Ryan again. You know what? I was going to, I was thinking about this liver of putting. What are you going to do? for the football game tomorrow night. Ooh, I don't have any plans. Like this feels like something
Starting point is 01:35:09 because you're, we saw the jackometer. This is rarefied air. It's a big year leading the division, huge matchup. Thursday night. You can't skip the flames game. You got to work. Is there a flames game tomorrow? The Rangers.
Starting point is 01:35:23 Is, are you producing afterburn or you got the, like a poor jazz. I don't know. Is there a flames game? I just rained on his parade. Gosh, we said one last night. Another. Steelers are playing.
Starting point is 01:35:34 Two screens, buddy. Good luck, Jack. Are we betting? Tomorrow? Yeah, we'll figure out. Oh, man. I'm not here Friday. Or am I here Friday?
Starting point is 01:35:47 You're here Friday. You're not here tomorrow. Yeah, I'm not in studio, at least tomorrow. You can tell you, I'm not sure about Friday because I got. Another one? No, the woman I live with and the kid off to. What's that? What the hell does that have to do with you coming here?
Starting point is 01:36:05 I guess that. this whole parental thing. Your kids are how old? I know. I'm aware. See you Friday, Dean. See you Friday.
Starting point is 01:36:25 Yeah, I'm one way or the other. You can, from the departures, because I know you want to hold hands, go through security, watch the plane take off, the whole balloons.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Yeah, no, that was today. They're gone. Skap it. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:36 Oh. So that's what to be, they're not here. So I've got some other stuff. It really doesn't change the time of day, though. I know. I know. Are we done?
Starting point is 01:36:49 Did you do the end of the Indy report? Yeah, the golf... Yeah, we did. We got a couple other things to do just before we wrap this thing up. We've got a big meeting, so we can't miss that.
Starting point is 01:37:00 So it's a one. Apparently. The person who needs to be on it the most isn't going to be on it apparently. So that's ideal. Can be done remotely. You're not going on? Jeez.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Yeah, that's right. That's right. What's going on in the... Did anyone... Anyone in that, uh, yeah, grippity chatty, textity thing? Ruppity chatty agree with me regarding my hot takery, right, the dawning. Do you know what Red always sort of like finds out of pick both sides? This is his thing.
Starting point is 01:37:31 He's being tongue in cheek, but he is saying go get a guy. So now if they're bad, he's like, no, no, I was joking. But if he's good, he's like, see, I told you they did this hour. I don't do it. Listen, I forget who it was, but I'm pretty sure you were the dummy. wanted to sign all these goaltenders right who was it that we came in three years oh dude pumping johnson it was chad johnson to be fair he had about a year where he was like nine 30 it was insane that's how crazy goalies are that's what that's what i want to let's see play out a bit
Starting point is 01:38:00 morazick was on your radar for a while then there was the guy in carolina chicago we don't have the insights that i also the snake wrangler out of buffalo leonner robin lennar well bob Yeah, once that snake farm went under, he wasn't the same. Well, I lose it. I love who he's eating him or what. Yeah, and he and Vegas are having a little bit of a spat, apparently. Not fun to get in the butterfly when you're 280? I think there's some issues, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:27 Yeah. Some issues there for sure. Do you need me to fly there to fail the medical? I'm failing the medical. You know I'm failing the medical. I know I'm failing the medical. You need me to fly there to fail a medical. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:38 This flower guys, we don't want him, right? We got a later. Yeah, yeah. Mark Andre Fleury can beat it. We're going to bring in Robin Leonard and pay him. They were right and they were wrong. They didn't need Flurry, but they were wrong. It was Leonard.
Starting point is 01:38:51 It was actually a hidden hill. You have shat on Flurry for years and I've been right on Flurry the whole way through. They should have kept Flurry in Pittsburgh before he went to Vegas and traded the other duster Matt Murray because he was so good. Could have got a king's ransom and they could have kept cruising. It wasn't their goaltending that was winning. championship. Didn't they package Flurry with a first?
Starting point is 01:39:17 I don't remember. Or was it with a second? They gave an asset with Mark Andre Fleury to Vegas. Yeah. Because it's like, guys, making a lot of money. We want to protect these other guys. We know Murray's our guy. Vegas, please take this guy.
Starting point is 01:39:29 Will and incent you. Face the franchise. Yeah. Cup final that year. Golly's man. I think you're right, though, in the end. I am right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:40 About. About the Flurry thing. Oh, yeah. You got to think outside the box. Get outside the box. You think of Jay and the sand. It's the box. You don't hear enough people saying that.
Starting point is 01:39:54 Think outside the box. You don't hear that a lot. Never? No, hardly ever. I feel like thinking outside the box is kind of in the box thinking of this point. Yeah, it is. Yeah.
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Starting point is 01:40:34 You ever, I don't know what the sabres right now. Plus money. Plus one 30. I want to get their first trip out to the West Coast. Our first game on their trip out to the West. Excited. The other one we had.
Starting point is 01:40:46 We told you to not buy coffee two weeks ago and put it on the Dustin Wolf wins the caller. I'm telling you not to buy coffee again because we found Dustin Wolf for the best. It's 100 to 1. 100 to 1. Where did you find that? I don't know what you're going to go click on the futures. And you go regular season of wars trophies. 100 to 1.
Starting point is 01:41:08 And look, I'm not telling you about 10 bucks on it, right? But if you put $2 on it. Look at that number. There's so many zeros. So many zeros. if you really believe they're out in the center, this is the type of territory. What if you put $20 down?
Starting point is 01:41:25 Oh my God. That's a lot of math, Dean. I want to hold. Conroy is pissed. Scroll down. Is he? But noodles, not me.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Oh, I see. Is it right? Yeah, he just texted me. See, you pissed about it. He said, why is this a hater? Why do you have this loser gold tender on here? I don't know. Bad mouth of my squad.
Starting point is 01:41:45 One of the other games. Seattle at home to Nashville. Nashville's on this. That's a big game. Nashville minus 130 there. Does it not? It's 140? 140.
Starting point is 01:41:52 Yeah. So, I mean, the crack and they lost the other night, but I think they'd won four straight prior plus 120 money line at home against Nashville who's neither here nor there. I feel like we're going to start seeing some desperate Nashville. It doesn't mean they're going to be good, but they're not going to be having an off like we didn't work tonight nights. It's a tough one. But, yeah, yeah, it's kind of been sneaky, okay? Do we like Vegas or Toronto tonight?
Starting point is 01:42:16 Toronto. They've been pretty darn good without Austin Matthews for six games. Was it five and one or something? Is he, has he been out that long? A couple weeks. Yeah. As well, was it, they blank Boston for nothing two weekends ago. That was without him. That was the first game you missed or one of the first ones. Back we thought the brains were good. You might feel they're good again to another two weeks soon.
Starting point is 01:42:39 Golly, say? Wasn't the Germany thing a big thing to see? Well, that's what we talk about. Is it or is it? No. I mean, I feel like we're the medical world is at right now. It's people travel all over the place to get like opinions or procedures. I don't know. Stuff done in Germany that's commonplace in regular surgeries. It's like, whoa,
Starting point is 01:42:57 he's not at Toronto general? No, I, he's a guy in Germany. Like, are you going to go to Germany and then wake up and you got a kidney gone or something? No, it's Germany. It's first world. It's not like going to get stem cells in Honduras. Come on, tree. Settle down. Settle down. Settle down. at 365 Download the app
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Starting point is 01:43:30 What? Oh really? I think the high energy No the game wore them out Oh this is a boring game This game was all You know If you had to watch this game
Starting point is 01:43:40 And he had to This was a Dude you're right Because usually He's got a lot going on, you know, a lot going on. His attitude's been terrible from day one. I do have a bit of info.
Starting point is 01:43:54 Nope. It's not really relevant to anybody. But he's working after murder tomorrow. Yes. Because you pulled him in. Yes. To be fair, pulled in and so wrong for terminology. He said, hey, are you available Thursday or not?
Starting point is 01:44:12 Why can you never ask me? You're too expensive for us. You can't afford you. That's right. Big shot. It's his birthday. I did hear that. I did not know that when he said yes.
Starting point is 01:44:25 I learned that last night while I was flooding a rink. Well, he should phone. Earbuds in. Pinder comes and he listens to the show. Well, I booked the show. And I was going to make sure everything's okay. Because one time last year did not go okay. And it's like, I feel like it's my response to make sure this is launched properly.
Starting point is 01:44:43 Over to see you. Everything. Tell you the next two weeks schedule. How was the ice making? Like, what was the shutdown? It's good, man. The hose is still running. We got guys on shift today.
Starting point is 01:44:57 Keep her moving. Knucking it in above minus seven for the next two weeks. Yeah, what about the water made? Did you call Gondick or Nenshi and get it? Nenshi's all over, don't worry. Yeah. You pass this by Nenshi? You got the Nenshi Green Light?
Starting point is 01:45:10 He's pro ice rink. Oh, that's good. He does seem like the type to. get out there and just bike lanes attached to it so that helps so are you working Thursday? No. I mean, I could.
Starting point is 01:45:22 No. We're going to book to show's books. All right. Mr. Organ. Remember, someone does have to decide who's going to do it. And I appreciate it.
Starting point is 01:45:30 Pender is coming up next week. I don't want to have to deal. I'm doing the Friday one P.m. next week, which is an odd one. Friday at 1 p.m. And it's in Columbus. So there's going to be the Johnny thing. And I don't know if it's a holiday or not in the States,
Starting point is 01:45:43 but it's an odd one. that's an easy one one o'clock game come on the 8 30s that yeah when you got to do this don't try and drag yourself up that you're taking an afternoon game well i did have to try to try to sell the way because my kids are out of school at noon so it isn't the most i'll do it the 830 is nice because they're actually asleep now some serious hyena behavior yeah i heard i heard about blocking ourselves in washroom who's not listening to parents today it's a lot Got to stay in your toes. Some comments on the show today.
Starting point is 01:46:18 Uh-oh. No. Super chat. $2 into the super chat. Appreciate it. Duke Lucum. Is that what that looks like? Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:46:27 Old Duke Lucum. Hashtag. Pinder for Afterburner, hashtag free gold. Mike and I'll be working at least once next week together. I think I got a pike and a... You know what they're saying. It's not that... Oh, I do now.
Starting point is 01:46:44 I see. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he volunteered. There's lots of people. I could ask. He's the first person I asked and he said yes. I'll do it. He shouldn't do us on his birthday.
Starting point is 01:46:55 It's up to him, isn't it? How old? He's like he's an adult. He would want nothing more than to be after him from being perfectly honest. He was not feeling it last night. I didn't know his birthday.
Starting point is 01:47:04 Maybe it was because he had to work with you. That could be. I think he likes working with me. Who doesn't? He does. Yeah. Starmaker. There's a couple here now.
Starting point is 01:47:14 My five year old is running around singing the Frank Bond drop. Thanks, boom, boom. and then kind of he says this show has some funny stuff dad you guys are winning well hey your kids you're doing some solid parent out of boy lip some good parents on the right track let come on over talk to my kids I need some help yeah I like that a lot it is catchy though oh well I like they like they're they are different very different I mean you got to listen depends on your style it's kind of like country versus screlax we're not going to confuse it to yeah it's
Starting point is 01:47:48 The best, when we were in, because RJ, we would say, oh, Frank Bon, Frank, Benz, Frank Bob and RJ. I said, what we should do is get the song and like, dude, what, what song? Oh, no. So he, he was unfamiliar. Jack, have you heard of Tom Jones? Delilah? No. She's a lady.
Starting point is 01:48:12 Oh, whoa, whoa. She's a lady. Ha. No. Barnburner, karaoke. is a thing. It should be. Mickey,
Starting point is 01:48:21 you're so fine. Pinder giving a guy the gears for arguing both sides. That is gold. That's the blackest of kettles. Watcher. We need both sides. This is what we do.
Starting point is 01:48:29 We talk about sports every goddamn day. We can't just be singing kumbaya. And we can't remember what our takes are. God, no. I don't want to have, well, flush the bad ones, remember the good ones.
Starting point is 01:48:39 There's no way I could say that. I could have been Pumpa Johnson for a month. What are you talking about? I've been on team rebuild for five years. The Katsy Wiggin. can't play in this league. I think crazy thinking about giving out assets right now to bring in what? We finally had a player.
Starting point is 01:48:56 We finally get ownership committed to a rebuild and now you're going to 19 games in. Smart not. And this one coming in. $5. Super chat. Arthus. Copy and other people's hashtag Pinder for Afterburner hashtag free goal. Come on, Pinder.
Starting point is 01:49:16 I'll talk to him. no i don't i'm talking you should step up for him it's like there's two sides to that what do you got to do yeah what are you doing thursday i'm taking my kid to the game it's first game here oh it's too late he's been a good boy this one the kid got what are you talking about oh this one's something else no i got two yesterday was somebody else i asked three people three no so kid gets you well busy it's late Somebody said no to you. Kid soccer at one and the other was,
Starting point is 01:49:51 I'm actually the game right now and I'm going on Saturday. My wife will kill me if I go Thursday, which, yeah. Get that. You've got a way longer list than three, though. What are you doing? This is the kid's number four on the list. Is this the goalie or the other one? It's the goalie.
Starting point is 01:50:07 I mean, Sterkin and Wolf. Two best goalies in history of time, guys. Got to take your goalie kid. Watch. He'll red on a quick. It could be that. I told me that. That's funny.
Starting point is 01:50:16 You know what? It's a thing. Because my daughter, she was, whatever, is Wolf playing? Yeah. Wolf is going to, it's like the Kipper thing. Yes. Wolf is going to draw in a bunch of your worst time ever. High competition now for kids.
Starting point is 01:50:30 Yeah, you're screwed. Your kids done. Or not being Div 1. This is what we need in Canada. That's right. No more Aiden Hills going to the Olympics will have mega studs. Watching Wolf getting inspired like Kipper. Just goalie factory, Calgary.
Starting point is 01:50:44 Who knew? Who's not coming? Well, it kind of. is. Logan Thompson, and Hayden Hill are both Kipper. Yeah. Disciples.
Starting point is 01:50:51 For sure. Yeah, I believe they both grew up. Logan for sure. Logan was a, we talked about it. He crafted some of his gear design after Kipper. That's Jack.
Starting point is 01:51:01 It's okay. Jack, just, whatever you got to do, buddy. That's parking out there. Peter the Heat, planning a trip to Calgary to wash the flames, burn the caps in January.
Starting point is 01:51:13 Pete, Northern Man. Wow. GFG. Not even a question just to let's go get it. Where should I go? No, I'm coming up there, Pete.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Like how north are we talking? Are we talking Swan River? Are we talking the paw? Are we talking Flynn Flon? Are we talking Thompson? What are we talk? Does it further north of Thompson? As far as I go.
Starting point is 01:51:33 The pie is kind of even there. I get a buddy from the paw. It's like, whoa, that's unusual. I'm sure it doesn't change a lot the further you go up because the paw is probably sufficient. If I said to the shoveler, let's go to the paw. Yeah. She wouldn't know where it is.
Starting point is 01:51:55 She wouldn't know how to spell it. Guaranteed. No. I'm trying to remember. This is the name of a place? Is cranberry portage north of the paw on the way to Flynnflon? Is that two places or one? Cranberry portage?
Starting point is 01:52:09 There's Portage La Prairie, which is by Winnipeg. Yeah. And then there's cranberry portage, which sounds like a delicious breakfast. Did you say porridge? Because Craberries would be interesting in porridge. It would be, yeah. So are they,
Starting point is 01:52:23 are the cranberries dried? Cross Lake, Peter says. Which is, I'm not super fond of it. It doesn't help. It sounds like it's up there. Like, you know, I don't know. Reported. Here we go.
Starting point is 01:52:36 Oh, I went too far. It is north of the palm. On the way to flip them. Before you get to flip them. What was that? name of this place this fellow's from cross lake manitoba cross lake oh he's uh wow
Starting point is 01:52:52 very close to the ontario border there oh yeah he's the same latitude as winnipeg that's not northern white shell he's close to canora he's not a liar manitoba mr lundegarde mr londagard you're a stinking liar damn liar now but you're looking at that on a flat so on the earth
Starting point is 01:53:12 globe maybe it's high so wise looking at the latitude lines here so if you just follow the lines it kind of the highway that connects to canora oh I'm not going to canora either canara thistles small smoker everyone in the cup what was that thing about
Starting point is 01:53:28 if you drive north or something to get to Detroit what was that there's a song no there was I we have it it was a trivia thing yeah if you go to Detroit and drive south what country do you hit like geez it's a long
Starting point is 01:53:45 way, but you probably get to Mexico. No, it's Canada. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Wow, your friends. Windsor. Can I go into Windsor if you head south? I head to the Rippers in the casino and Windsor. Windsor. Didn't like the Detroit border guard.
Starting point is 01:54:06 No? Looked in the back of my truck. Didn't believe that I was that the one where you left your passport behind? Okay, that's different per crossing. Buffalo. So what? Because you lived out in that area. I just want to write now, the Buffalo Bills,
Starting point is 01:54:19 powerhouse, Detroit Lions, powerhouse, both very close to the border. Where's the Great Lakes area? Where's the allegiance line there? Well, but they're four hours east of west. So like where would, like red deer is the cut off. They say, is there like, well, from here, now you're in Lions country. Yeah, but you're very rarely would you have ever had these two teams good at the
Starting point is 01:54:45 same time two cities in the great lakes Detroit Buffalo one wins who's feeling nicey who's feeling nicey woohoo I'll just say this so you have Buffalo you have Cleveland I was going to say you've got Detroit so all three teams Pittsburgh's only three hours of the Browns are the Browns aren't no but if I said to you today Super Bowl Bill's Super Bowl Lions okay That is too boring there. That's the one. AFC and FC. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:55:20 Take that one. There's more people in the Toronto area than there are in the Windsor area. So I would think the bills would be based on population. They'd have more. You know, it is interesting. It's kind of like Canada is stuck between the two, isn't it? It is. There's no U.S. in the middle.
Starting point is 01:55:40 London, Ontario is in the middle. It's almost why I ask the question. It's like it's a little area. Usually we don't get this. steep folks, but who's holding us back? Who they're cheering for at the Sundowner? They're cheering for the bills. 100%. They've got great bills specials at the sundowner.
Starting point is 01:55:56 If you're in the area, pop on in. All kinds of bills, $20.00 bills. There's a buddy man, deep. Retro. Are the kids and wife pumped to be officially back now that the snow is falling? Because you wouldn't get much snow in Buffalo when you were there. Then you did, you get too much. It didn't get snowed that stay.
Starting point is 01:56:13 When it snowed, it snowed. The kids are pumped. Yeah. Yeah. Jacked. But it's turned to ice. Christ. It's very, very slow.
Starting point is 01:56:22 It's not good right now. Like, you can't even walk down the sidewalk. I can't wait to fall and sue. Soon, then she. I had to fall the other day. It's good. Oh, did you soon? No, it was in my driveway.
Starting point is 01:56:32 Yeah. The fucker didn't solve it. Lazy prick. This asshole. Oh, shit. This is my. Michael. I'll be going to the game on Monday.
Starting point is 01:56:42 I will try and give a barn burner shadow to Adnan during one of the intermissions. Is it Amazon again on Monday? Yeah, in, where are they? Well, there's one game a week. Monday is Amazon. Where is it on Monday? Can you stop that? They're in Ottawa.
Starting point is 01:56:58 That's what it is. That makes sense. Yeah. Noodles. That's right. We won't be there because it's on Amazon. Yeah. Lazy.
Starting point is 01:57:06 Yeah, one Canadian game every Monday is an Amazon game. Doogie. Question for retro. Best way to have potato. In your mouth. Yeah, there's other places. I was going to say. It's,
Starting point is 01:57:20 it's been known to go in other places. Not going to fit in here, bud. Yeah. The, the, the mouth would be the optimal one. Chew it up. Oh,
Starting point is 01:57:26 I mean, again, I forgot. Best way. Mash. Rets top five. Do you want to do top five potatoes? Oops.
Starting point is 01:57:32 I'll do top five potatoes. Love it. I will do a scalloped. Scalloped. I will do a, scalp season, by the way, yeah.
Starting point is 01:57:43 A roasted potato. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Garlic roasted. I will do the, is it the Hasselhoff or the Hasselback? The Hasselback. Yes, the Hasselback. Matt Hasselback, number three.
Starting point is 01:57:59 What is that, by the way? I don't want to be. Take the potato and think of it like you've, like you put in like a rotate like. Spiral? Yeah. And then you stuff. Butter and cheese and some stuff in the folds of the sateau. It can be labor intensive, but I've done it.
Starting point is 01:58:14 And it just. Hasselbeck? Yeah. Okay. You can Google it. Number two, twice baked. God, that's good. And number one, you know what comes next.
Starting point is 01:58:28 Mashed. Correct? No love for the French fry. Question, I was going to say. I don't consider it. Dubious by its absence, the Tater Tots. I had Tadetton's last night because loved it. I consider that a whole different category.
Starting point is 01:58:45 Bouté. A whole different category. Okay. Red tries do deserve their own category. I'm okay with it. Because then you get into crinkle cut, shoe string. And it's skin on it.
Starting point is 01:58:55 That's almost more of a deep fried cattle category. Yeah, you're right. I had some scallop potatoes the other day. I was very disappointed. Did I just tell you my mom scam? My mom scam? No.
Starting point is 01:59:08 Christmas scallop potato scam. You're going up to the lake for Christmas. Yeah. Northern Sask. Actual north. Is it on the latitude? Cross Lake. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:19 And, mom makes scalp potatoes one of those big old roasters full of scalp mom oh what have you holy like what the bring your appetite boys impressed like how much time and effort have you put into that's right and she's being oh there it's yeah anything for you honey stop it yeah two years dean you wouldn't let her get away with it two years went by before she finally cracked under the pressure because i requested the scalp potatoes again and i said i need that recipe she said well and she didn't want to had to drag it out of yeah bought him at the deli store bought in those little pre-made yeah yeah she just dumped it in that roaster and passed it off it's wrong it's great idea but don't be taking the credit she's a fucking liar
Starting point is 02:00:20 She's a frog. Mrs. Warner. You're a fucking liar. Mr. Lundegard. Yeah, because, you know, and somebody was saying, and it was still good. Now I want to go get them. I know.
Starting point is 02:00:32 Because I don't think you've got your tater tots, your French fries, hash brown. Get out of it. Potato chips. No one asked for your opinion. I'm not, I'm not,
Starting point is 02:00:41 it's the point you brought up that you said it's a separate category. And I was really, but then you're right. It's a separate category. She's fried potatoes in their own category. That's where your tots and potato chips and french fries. Did you grow up? We ate so much beef and potatoes where I'm from because everyone had cows. Yeah, no.
Starting point is 02:00:59 And potatoes. I would bet my grandpa ate more potatoes than any man. Maybe ever. My father-in-law. Lunch, boiled potatoes. Supper? Boiled potatoes. Man likes a tater.
Starting point is 02:01:12 My father-in-law, rest in peace. ate so much potatoes as a kid. Once he moved out, I'm done. I will make him. Don't need the starch. Rest of my life, no more. Hit the quota. If they'd be visiting us,
Starting point is 02:01:25 oh, what should we do? So bake potatoes, no, no, no. What else can we do? Noodles, rice, anything. See, my grandpa, I think it was less about the potato, more about the butter. That's where I learned my love of butter. Because the potatoes were boiled.
Starting point is 02:01:41 But boy, there was a lot of. Yeah. Burr. It's amazing. Stuff that I've stumbled across. There was a butter story that I kept. I was going to bring on the show. There's a gravy story.
Starting point is 02:01:53 Today? No, over the last little ball. Then I kind of forget about it, but I think I, it's the season. I should jot it down, get a book like Pinder.
Starting point is 02:02:01 I take a screen shot. Are we just sitting here talking? This is the best part of the show for me. Oh, sometimes you do drag it. 4.4.624. I'm not expected. Let's talk about Google Hasselback potato and take a look at it.
Starting point is 02:02:16 Yes, you should actually, because if you're ever going to make up for stupid comments today and oy, what? Right out of the shoot. You were going to get absolutely, where's that shovel thing? Right here.
Starting point is 02:02:30 Oh my God. On arrival at the house. What? Oh, I love to have these before these are good potatoes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Very, very, very thin, thin, yeah. Oh. Oh. Shives. Sour cream. Butter. It's seasoning.
Starting point is 02:02:47 It's good. It's, I mean, it's Because you can also throw the parogi in there. And the ganak. Because the potato gunnock. Yeah. People don't know that. Hey. Pongue and potatoes.
Starting point is 02:02:58 I'll have the, I'll have the Nyoki because I like pasta. It's not really what you're having. It's not really what you're having. I might go buy some parogis today. On the way home. Yeah. I might do it.
Starting point is 02:03:11 It's that place up 137. See, everyone there? The shoveler told me no more parogies today. She actually said those words as I left the house because I said, let's have steak. As you were leaving her? So that's what she was. Yeah, I said, let's have steak tonight.
Starting point is 02:03:23 And she said, I don't want any more parodies. Hey, it's Wednesday. So that means steak night. She heard something else and said, no way. Get out of here. Hey, Flames Nation. We want to hear from you. You've got thoughts, takes, and opinions.
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Starting point is 02:04:09 It's a survey. Just write Hasselback potatoes. I don't know if you get to freelance or start, but there it is. Speak up and score. Yeah. Yeah. Man, man, girls. We're running this until the end of the month,
Starting point is 02:04:23 so you got a little bit of time, but don't wait. Because if you wait, then you're going to forget. If you forget, then you're not winning the gift card. They're right down. I'll write it down. Parogis, how are we? I got some hog casings arriving at the house today. Right now?
Starting point is 02:04:39 Make some socks. You got to get going. Really? Sorry, guys, I got to go. Some parogies and sausage. Some hog casings. You kidding me? I don't know how, do you think there's a lot?
Starting point is 02:04:47 Do you think there's a lot of people in town eagerly anticipating their hog casing delivery today? I got it. What's Amazon? Yes. They'll do everything. I didn't know where else to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:05:01 Well, yeah. Tomorrow is Thursday. Yeah, it's Browns and Steelers. Yeah. Biggest upset of the season tomorrow. How much in the muck? Pizza bet. It's going to be big, Jack.
Starting point is 02:05:14 You better. I don't know what. Is it a pizza bet? Oh, well, yeah. We don't want to steal a bed. I don't mind that.
Starting point is 02:05:20 Every Thursday's got to be a pizza bed. I don't mind that. Do you have to be? No, I can make a pizza bed. I want to see, look at a line. I want to dive into this.
Starting point is 02:05:27 We're going to do the homework for tomorrow show. We'll see if we can get the pizza. He wants to get all the details and not be. I know. No, no,
Starting point is 02:05:32 no, it's a great bit for tomorrow show. It's really what I'm trying to do here. It's, we can talk pizza bed right. So do it. We don't have dust and we need we need at least two, obviously. every Thursday we need a bet
Starting point is 02:05:43 so that there's pizza on Friday you get two on each side what if we're having a hard time getting somebody to that's what the spreads there we'll have to get creative we'll have to move in the launch over unders oh we all like the Steelers okay
Starting point is 02:05:54 minus five minus eight minus ten losers who cares if you lose you get pizza I understand that's true like where is the downside we're all winners it's pizza day how much time between when the hog casing shows up and the sausage making like
Starting point is 02:06:11 If you shut your yap, not much. Longer this goes, longer takes, team. That'll do it. See it, buddies.

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