Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - CAN THE FLAMES STAY HOT?? | FN Barn Burner - December 16th, 2025

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:10 Oh, it's a happy day in Calgary, the Steelers. Victorious on a Monday night. Holy smacks, there's joy and cheer to be spread around this Christmas time of year. Jackie Boy is happy. It's Tuesday. It's also game day, Dino. So get your GD helmet on. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Down at San Jose, Pater and Lanny, leading the dads. Oh, wicked. Wild goose chase. A wild goose chase down there. Hopefully they won't be too distracted. And remember that there's a kid called Celebrate. any that will want to play and score goals against you. Welcome to Barnburner on a beautiful Tuesday in Calgary.
Starting point is 00:00:49 Almost ran a guy over yesterday. It was not good. He was not happy. He had a dog. I said, tried to apologize. He beat me. So I got over my truck and I rammed his head into my bumper. Other than that, it's the BCE, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:03 It is the BCE. Nice Christmas, sir. Do you know, do the reads, too? Yeah, yeah, go. Yeah, it's. A lot you're hot. There you go. That was hot last night.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I wouldn't like, would you apologize to someone? Hey, man, sorry. Yeah. Sorry, I almost killed you, man. Sorry, I almost slid, but it was ice.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Like, I literally slid 10 feet. I did something similar. It wasn't quite to that extent, but I went to take a turn. And I clearly wasn't paying close enough attention. There was a car coming. And the guy was like,
Starting point is 00:01:32 I was like, I mean, I deserve it. It was kind of a, it was on me. Feel bad about those ones. Despite the apology, it's like, yeah, I can understand why you would be upset. The reason that Rett is affected by this is because if someone would do that to him and they said, sorry, he'd be like, no problem.
Starting point is 00:01:50 I feel like, if there's an apology made, it's kind of like, hey. He's like, he apologized. Despite the, you know, the seriousness of or how flagrant the ongoing is. It wasn't that flagrant. Like the guy was at the window. Yeah. When I was sliding, I wasn't sliding at him. He was...
Starting point is 00:02:09 And he had a dog? Yeah. Oh, you're a dog lover. I love dogs. I would be so nervous as you were sliding. I would never shoot it up, ever. Let's give it to someone else. I'll give it away.
Starting point is 00:02:21 Now, that dog was stolen, actually. This is what happens, Dean? The people that win the wars, rewrite the history books. Yeah. Barnbarter brought to you by Bet365 game props, player props, totals, and the money line, whatever your bet is. It's never ordinary at Bet, 3165. 6-5. Download the app and get the game. B-19 as well.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah, that's key. And the old Barnburner Superchat is on a roll. Bringing in good dough thanks to all our supporters, listeners, advisors, your advisors. A little dough to that. We'll slide it over to the Youth Centers of Calgary. They're doing good things, keeping the kids happy. Maybe a little more joy for the kids of Christmas at the Youth Centers of Calgary. and thank you for all your super
Starting point is 00:03:08 checks. Yeah, here's hoping. There's a little more joy. I'll use a little bit of that. Hey, McLeod Law Studios, McLeod Law, LLP Studios is where you find us today. We are live,
Starting point is 00:03:19 unless you're not watching live. Oh. In which case, we were. You missed it. Yeah. But you're still going to get it. That's the magic of the internet. Because when we did the old radio show,
Starting point is 00:03:30 once it was gone. Once it was gone, poof. She'd go. Here we live on in infamy. McLeod. Law issues at the Christmas party. Oh dear. You nearly run a man over with his dog and so then slam his head into the fender of your truck.
Starting point is 00:03:45 That part wasn't true. Of course it wasn't. But whatever the situation that may arise in your life, serious or just routine, business or personal, it's only one place. MacLeodlaw, MacLeod-dashlaw.com. This piece of advice. I don't know everybody going into the Christmas season. Yeah. Get a nice gift.
Starting point is 00:04:07 But knowledge-based jobs are on their way. start thinking about that. Yeah, okay. I was saying that that's my gift to you. Most little tidbit. Most sports talk shows would be in trouble because you'd have to have not us. This is a nonsense. Where are this?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah, this is. I'm not sure anybody else can do what we do. I haven't seen it. They can try to try another stuff. I mean, hello. Who's out there and who isn't? Look at us. I mean, who's doing this?
Starting point is 00:04:38 Huh? Takes a special. Can you imagine if this is life is it just some sort of bullshit simulation? Like what kind of loser put this together? Yeah. You'd be canceling your AI if you paid for this. Right? Yeah. This is what you came up with?
Starting point is 00:04:54 No. You're glitched. You glitched AI. Fellas. Claims game day. Get your helmet on. What? Not Steelers talk?
Starting point is 00:05:04 This Jack's favorite team. Well, he's got to come in and talk your BS bears. We'll hit it later in the pinnroom. They're tracking for a. nine and eight boys everything is right on schedule you can set your watch this team it was kind of my wait well i've already ruined it yes game at san Jose oh come on what do you want to do no no i'm just steeles i wanted i was trying to lead into the fact that i kicked the piss out of pinder and phaena oh that was a tough l it was kind of my not too yeah abrupt four points you got me if you
Starting point is 00:05:34 missed last night's or yesterday's show it hinged on last night's game devon h n needed to go very quiet for Pinder to hang on. Yeah, not like quiet for a regular running back, but A-chan quiet, which is tough. We kind of looked at his numbers, and the only time he'd had less than 10 was never this season. A by-week. I thought you put the jakes on him at the half-time show.
Starting point is 00:06:00 You need to stay out of the end zone. They did that, but he also needed to fumble. He did not do that. There you go. So the top four seeds in our pool are gone. 8-7-6-5. All the underdogs are left. Curse the top suits.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Think I can do it? I just can. His team's peaking at the right time. Do it. Do it for the show. Do it for us. Jack, quit a month ago. I would like to welcome you into the annals of the champions.
Starting point is 00:06:25 I've won in fantasy before. Not this league. Not this one. Which league? Fantasy baseball 25 years ago? 12. Okay. 12?
Starting point is 00:06:35 Well, maybe 15. Yeah. It's been a while. Been a while. I'd like to welcome you back. Yep. Yeah, whatever. So,
Starting point is 00:06:42 I beat you. Okay. So the Steelers. Well, that was enough. I got in my, yeah, my fantasy. That's all I wanted out of that was.
Starting point is 00:06:51 Yeah. Let's get to the flames. People want to hear about the flames. Really? What do they want to hear? What's going on here? All right. Let's talk about the flames.
Starting point is 00:06:58 We're going to, what are they always say? Thanksgiving, Dino. Canadian Thanksgiving is a little too early. There's nothing to know about that. Yeah. American Thanksgiving. I'll be damned.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I've got a clear view of what's about. happen some people a little more hesitant well stiller we got time Christmas absolutely we know what teams are we're going to be four shizzle dude nine days we'll know exactly yes if they win the next three
Starting point is 00:07:23 what are they oh they're probably still equidistant from the bottom in a playoff spot the teams around we're actually playing 11 3 and 1 let's take a look at where they are today tough run though because they come into this game
Starting point is 00:07:41 they come. They're red hot. You're playing 8.3 and 1 last 12. You can't touch a flame when it's red hot. Nope. 4 and 1 in their last 5, as Ryan said, 8, 3 1 in their last 11. Points in 11 of 15. That is just, it's tidy work for whoever you are.
Starting point is 00:07:58 That's real good hockey, Dean. It's just, there's nothing. And that's with shit travel. Let me tell you that, folks. Yeah, folks. So in the West, you know, because you look at the league standings, all right, well, there's a lot of teams. So what about, well, you're going to talk playoffs.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Like you say, what are they? So where, I mean, here's a look at where they stack up. So with 30 points, Utah is the first team on the outside looking in. They also have, like, it used to be that the flames were buying far more games. So there's 16 teams in the West, correct? So Utah and Winnipeg would hold the wild cards? Oh, no, it starts at three. Okay, there you go.
Starting point is 00:08:37 These are the non-playoff teams as of today. I understand there's games. and all of that. This is what it is. It's foolish enough to talk about it on December. But if they win three in a row, that puts them at 500 going into the Christmas break. Now, there's probably
Starting point is 00:08:57 mathematicians and AI that could figure out real fast how they'd have to play the rest of the way. But what's usually, you've got to be 5 to 10 games over 500 to have a shot? Last year was 96. 96 at a tie break. 82 is 14 points. It's seven games over 500. 93 is kind of a normal-ish cutoff.
Starting point is 00:09:17 Let's call it 95. So there it is. You saw Utah on the outside to 35 again. Edmonton San Jose, tonight's a poem with the Sharks, in a playoff spot. Good team. Playoff team tonight, there you go. How about an hour and still? So they're about the same distance,
Starting point is 00:09:37 another further from the playoff cutoff than the other bottom of the league. Right now. today. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm adding three wins in there. Boys are rolling. I'm just going to run the table here. Boys are rolling. Seattle's not been very good. What do we say? Eight of nine they've lost. They've not been very good at all. First game back. Don't know if that's real or not. And then sharks mixed bag lately. So sharks tonight. And then Vegas on Saturday is the one that it's, if you're going to win three in a
Starting point is 00:10:04 row, that's big ass. Cracken Thursday, Vegas Saturday. Cracken Thursday, Vegas Saturday. Edmonton. Next week right before. Chris. There's war games before. I was wrong. I forgot about Seattle. Okay. So that's even more points on the table there for them.
Starting point is 00:10:23 Because at Christmas, we'll know. Yeah. Mike will know lots about Colorado and Dallas by Christmas. That's easy. You're cherry picking. You're just being lazy. It's not like you. It's not the type of person you are.
Starting point is 00:10:40 You love to get into the details of it. I think they go to the next four. That'd be reasonable. Let's say you beat San Jose, you beat Seattle, you lose to Vegas, you lose to Evanton. I mean, that would just be playing the odds. What's that? Is he sick?
Starting point is 00:10:51 I don't know. Are you sick? There's a little something today. I'm not feeling great. There's a little something that's not. Just do this while we're doing it. Don't rob a bank because you, like, you're not a good fooler. Fooler.
Starting point is 00:11:11 They'll be fooling. You're not a good fooling. Don't you just get him short. Next week, stay home. Why don't you just stay? If you ruin my Christmas, B.C.E. He can't stay home. Why?
Starting point is 00:11:21 He doesn't have a thing at home. I don't care if he's on. Do we need him? My wife and tell her to build a studio. I can't get runway at him. Brian, go home. Like, if you don't need to be here, we learned this.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Perfect. We're upset right before the holidays. Yeah, I got Christmas party tonight, Christmas party tomorrow, two Christmas parties Thursday. Jerky show Friday, Christmas party Saturday. What is? Mike and his camera so that the adults can have a
Starting point is 00:11:52 conversation six days. Remember last week when he ripped us for living not downtown? Yeah. Off there's a very pretentious, smarmy. Just grossly smarmy. Grossly, while you live in the suck. Do you know anyone else that has 18 phony bologna Christmas parties that they must attend?
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'll have to attend. I like to. I was going to say, there's has to, and then there's being invited. and and then there's just kind of the need to get out of your house. To search them out and find them. Yeah. That's what I was wondering was that are these real legit like must attend?
Starting point is 00:12:36 Like where's you, do you got your calendar? Yeah, it's right here. Okay. Just give it a quick peek. How many Christmas parties do you have? I'm wide open. Oh, no Friday. You got one Friday.
Starting point is 00:12:51 So you're crappy today. and then it's good how is it going to go the rest of the week like that's weird because we the video we saw you post from edmonton you seem to be like you were tucking yourself in nice and getting a good night sleep and taking care of yourself yeah sleep hasn't been good it's part of it can play some old man hockey today so you had to go to so you're curling last night old man hockey today and we're not feeling good and christmas parties and yeah i think that actually doing things will help you recover is my idea rather than do doing nothing and remaining sick and mopey. So I'm doing things. Yeah. Get a workout. It's a balance for sure. It's against the science, but okay.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Because there's a lot of time. I have drank my way out of an illness before. I felt it coming on and I chugged whiskey. Might have even been scotch. Oh, chugging scotch. Aggressive pace. Well, you got to kill the fire. All right.
Starting point is 00:13:47 Where were we? Ryan's sick and doesn't want to engage in any of his usual. You can just, like, you could just see it on them. Oh, yeah. My face droops is what boom on. Some swelly. It's that, but it's also the low energy. You can just see how, as my buddy Beef would say, you have a low tub.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Low tub. Your tub is very low. There's not enough blood in your head. That's why I'm going to go. It's like when you get into a bathtub and you don't have enough waters, you have a low tub today. Low tub. Low tub. What's happening low tub?
Starting point is 00:14:24 tub is what he would say. Like, what are we dealing with here? If he could tell you were kind of a low to like a sniffly kind of just. Just have a little sniffle. Well, he brought out the hanky there to do some dab dab. I don't know. Jeez. Not good.
Starting point is 00:14:39 Wrong week for this bullshit. Stupid mall. No fresh air for three days. Two hours of sleep a night. No, lots. Oh, please. You told us. You had zero drinks on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:14:55 Zero drinks on Sunday. Last night, one or two at curling. Like, it's not, Dean likes to paint me as a raving alcoholic, but I can go be social. You come by it honestly, though. Probably. Anyway, back to the sharks.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Sharks are real good. Yeah, they got this kid. He's awesome. Last time you guys pumped him up, it didn't go so often. I know, let's pump him up again. Last time you guys pumped them up. I think I was away that dude.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Beam me up. Beam me up. Beam me down, beam me down. I'm beamed down today. Yep. Low tub. you have a low tub he'd be so happy I'll text them telling him the Pinder has a low tub today
Starting point is 00:15:32 and see what he said Um yeah so you saw the sharks there they're right at the wild card line in out that sort of thing The type of team that can come back from 5-1 so if you get up early Jack I don't want you
Starting point is 00:15:46 I don't know if they're a kind of team I mean they're young takes a special group yeah that'd be a pretty shitty historic 5-1 lead wouldn't it yeah Big night tonight, though.
Starting point is 00:15:59 One of the nicest guys going. Jeff Skinner, game 1,100 tonight. That's a lot of games. It's a lot of games. And he did finally play in the playoffs. Yeah, I had a couple last year. They decided he wasn't one of their best 12 forwards. A lot.
Starting point is 00:16:16 How does this, how did, like, who have you pissed off that you can't get in the playoffs more after 1,100 games? I think there's a lot of bad luck and a lot of time in Buffalo, to be fair. There's some good players in Buffalo that deserve Because he got to Carolina. He was a high first rounder. They were bad then. That's, yeah, that's.
Starting point is 00:16:34 He goes to Buffalo. They went to Buffalo and they were not. And they bought him out. Then he goes to Edmonton. And then they were good. But they're like, yeah, we kind of want a little moxie. You're a bit soft. You're like, bubby-boo and it's the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:16:45 They're out of the Skinner business all together now, eh? A couple of them. They're in it tonight. They've got Skinner tonight, potentially. It's Edmonton at Pittsburgh. Jari and Skinner. I'm at the oil. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:16:55 At the oil lister out of... Yeah, I get it. They're not dabbling. Pinder's excited about that. I am excited about that. Like, this has great potential for title of the show tomorrow. I'm thinking that... I'm trying to...
Starting point is 00:17:10 Where it happens, like, right away after a trade. Yeah. Where the two teams or whatever, that player will play his former team right away. Yeah. I harken back. Harken. I love hearkening.
Starting point is 00:17:26 I'll harken. Brett Harkin. No. Fred Heffiton? Jansen, Harkins. I was in Seattle with my young son at the time. We were going to watch some baseball. How did you travel a lot?
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah, this would have been 2010. So we're at Stacey. Yeah, I went to Seattle to watch some baseball. The Yankees were there, got some ball tickets. We went out. And while we were there, each year old was traded from the Mariners to the Yankees and played that night.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Down the tunnel. Different dugout. So, like, my kids aren't real bright, and so they'll struggle sometimes with where the puck's being dropped on the ice. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Like, would he have gone to the wrong? Well, if you strikeout. You're on the side. Yeah. There was video yesterday. Chris Kreider back at Madison Square Garden as a member of the Adaheim Ducks. He didn't know how to get on the ice
Starting point is 00:18:29 from the visitors dressier. So is this where we go? Oh, I got to go back all the way. All right. I think it was kind of a double montage because Troops is back. I don't know if she was not been. It might have been last year. I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Well, it was a big deal. Yeah. So they, it mustn't have been. Yeah. I mean, it must have been his first time back. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:48 For cry, for both? For both. Yeah. Because I know there was a big Crider montage. I didn't see the Tribal montage. He was a captain. It'd be kind of weird if you montage one,
Starting point is 00:18:55 not the other. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Jack's going to give a shit. He said that the people wanted to talk flames. Okay. So the flames.
Starting point is 00:19:02 I tried to put a good. spin I said, I'm coming around. Going to win, win? You had a Jeff Skinner take for us. That's where we get started here. No, I had a, it's Christmas. If they win the next four, that'll, well, I thought there was only three. Because at Christmas, we're going to know. We've got a few to go.
Starting point is 00:19:21 They start with another win in San Jose. Yeah, it's the easier. I would still be most confident in saying they miss the playoffs and are closer to the bottom than the playoff cutoff line. But I did not expect them to go 8, 3, and 1. It's very respectable. You said it like yesterday. They're playing now like how they played last year when they had so many kudos
Starting point is 00:19:45 and everybody gave them so much credit for the way they played. There's been some improved performances. We talked about Frost and Farabee yesterday. You could, for whatever it is, you can lump Igor Sheringovich in there. He's been. I noticed them the last thing. Nothing to see here. We need the snot camo for on Pinder.
Starting point is 00:20:03 He's doing these. The turn away. Until it's full camera on boom. Go. Go, go quick. Hurry. Go one shot so I can take my napkin and dab at my running nose. Sharon Govich moves on to the line with, with Codry.
Starting point is 00:20:17 He's been better. Codry is consistently good. The goaltending has been good for them. Well, thank God they can keep Coleman and Baclin together. I brought that up earlier, one of the keys to all things. That line's been good. Honestly, like, there's not many lines. They have to do the heavy lifting like they do.
Starting point is 00:20:35 And Blake's having a great year. I think if they put them to market, they'll get a haul. They're heavy lifters. That's going to, you know what? That is going to frustrate everybody because that's what's going to have. Is there going to be there? And I don't know that they're going to get as close. I don't think they're going to get as close to being in that playoff pictures they did last year.
Starting point is 00:20:52 They're 31st guys, right? But as we get, but it's what, five points. Right. But the point is, is that everyone's played the same number of games. And even with an 83 and one run, you're still only better than one team in the league. Right. But I guess what I'm saying is last year they were, you could argue. And we did every bloody day.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Well, I guess you don't trade those. It's going to be more frustrating this year, I think, because they're going to, I think they're going to be further back. And they're going to hang on to Coleman and Cadry. You think they're going to hold on to both them? Yeah, I kind of do. I think Cadre might do them a solid and ask out. Well, yeah, that would be the only way, I suppose. But if it's on their, if it's on their plate.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Isn't that a mystery then if it does feel like it to me? I think the thing that we're totally committed to you. Not a few. It's the easy way out. Definitely. It's the breakup of the girlfriend just start ignoring her and let her make the call. Like they're not good enough. I don't have,
Starting point is 00:21:48 I think their playoff probability has got to be below 5%. I understand they're playing better. But you have to remember, they go 8, 3 and 1, and they moved up one spot in the standings. One. And it's not like St. Louis isn't playing better lately. and Vancouver all of a sudden's got some win in their sales and Nashville's stringing together some wins
Starting point is 00:22:07 like Buffalo's three in a row like who's actually going to be worse than this team that you're sure of right now like give me the name of a team I'm not so sure after that dear Demco just got back look at the record with Demko it's quite a bit better than the flames points percentage quite a bit now if Demp who gets hurt again sure yeah you get somebody Topalopio in net
Starting point is 00:22:28 yeah you'll lose some games who's that exactly it's the whole point I don't think Seattle is very good. I don't either. If you're wanting to bottom out, I think they're a problem. I think Vancouver's a problem. It's a nice little play.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Demko's not going to stay. I don't understand. He's just not. He's going to play 8, 10, 12 games and then miss some time. And then Tuolopo was going to come in and they will lose games again. Kevin letting them in? Like Nashville. 7 and 3 in their last 10?
Starting point is 00:23:00 Okay. We're getting four goals from Stammer and everything's going on that. But I mean, your points a good one is they have been quite good and they are three points out of last. Yep. And look, they're 0 and 2 against Nashville. They've split against Vancouver. I think they've only played the Blues once they lost that game. I don't know if they played them a second time.
Starting point is 00:23:22 Like, have they played Seattle yet? I don't recall them playing Seattle yet. They might have been won somewhere in there. Like they just, they're not beaten up on bad teams. they can hang around. They're in close games. They're going to pick up loser points, but so is everyone else.
Starting point is 00:23:34 There's no bad teams this year. There is not a shark's bad last year team that you're like, well, that team's going to finish last. Like the Blackhawks last year too. Like the bottom of the league is quite competitive. So what they're doing is not unlike what all other teams at the bottom are going to do. They're going to have any three in one run. Like we just said it with,
Starting point is 00:23:52 is it Nashville 7 and 3 in the last 10? Like, that's the worst team of league. So how in the world are you going to pass all, all these teams to get in. Like, let's say top 16 get in. Now, conference is trying to. No, no, but if they're going to make decisions about are we closer, are we not, you're telling me you're going to pass 14 teams.
Starting point is 00:24:13 That's insane. I don't disagree, but it's just 14. What's your say? It's like, like history is past performance or past behavior is going to, when have they ever done something? something where you think, like, that's, you know what? That's, that's, that's, that's smart. That's looking ahead.
Starting point is 00:24:35 That's, until it's right. Like, they trade Elias Lindholm. Well, no shit. His play is falling off. He's a UFA. He's pouting. He's basically assed out. Like, until it, Nikita Zedorov is saying shit about the team and he's pouted.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Until it gets to that absolutely. Who would be the last person they, the last person? That they had some foresight to going, uh, this, we should move on. They never had the fores. they've only been forced into it by the standings. Like when you looked at them moving Bullmeister and a ginnla in the same year,
Starting point is 00:25:07 that wasn't their plan. They were just forced to because they were that. That was the last time they actually committed to selling assets. Not moving Kipper. They didn't move. Because there's trading. That was Thelman Louise. They were headed towards the dead end and the cliff.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Well, we better jump. And I think this team still doing that. So yeah, I don't know. To move Coleman with time left on his deal, to move Codry, again, barring a trade request or a demand. It would be a real swerve from the way they've conducted business. Now, are these, the business different is where they understandings. Because last year, they're probably sitting.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Yeah, but I understand. But regardless, they've never done it. What I'm trying to say is, it's just, does Conroy have the will, the foresight, the ability, the autonomy? Conroy has all of those, except maybe the last. last one. And that's the most important one. Right. I believe he's got the will. I'm saying if you want to look at this rationally and everyone will know what our opinion is, but if you want to look at it rationally and they've never done this, are those the bold moves that sets you up better than the obvious ones. Yes, they are for
Starting point is 00:26:18 sure. Right. It helps your bottom out this year. Don't finish fifth from the bottom. Don't miss out on, we really had these four guys in this one box. And you know what? Like that's kind of the second layer to it. And if that happens, that's the bonus, right? It's just getting, get something while you have, it's the same conversation over and over. It is. It is.
Starting point is 00:26:43 It goes back to Maloney and Buffalo telling us he's not going. It seems so goddamn straightforward. You're going to miss the playoffs. You're playing at the best level that could be expected of you right now and you're still second to last. Trade these goddamn guys. they get a chance to go and more
Starting point is 00:27:04 it's not like you're so great they are broken heart no they're going to live to fight another day they're going to play in another team they're making millions they will survive fans will buy tickets you will potentially get better but to just continue to push this thing oh no I think it's like plugging down no I think we're
Starting point is 00:27:20 good I don't think they actually think that though Christ all mighty but they're what gives you what gives you the unless they do assurance that they don't I think they will trade absolutely Rasmus and one of the two But the Rasmus is, again, a punch in the face thing where it's like, well, if you don't trade him, you're either trading him or signing it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:39 So that wasn't the whole point. It's just that I think they'll move at least one of the two. And that's all I'm saying. A Rasmus trade, that's going to be after Christmas off his last year of his contract. That's, yes. Well, and that's why I was screaming to trade him with the deadline last year. I know, but now you're arguing. I'm not arguing they're not trade Rasmus.
Starting point is 00:27:56 I continue to say trade Rasmus. But now they're at the point where they're going to get better offers as they get into the new year because there'll be more injuries. there'll be more desperation. Teams are going to lose right shot D, men. But it's not just about Raspus, what we're talking about again, and it gets boring. But this is what, you either talk about,
Starting point is 00:28:12 are they going to make the playoffs? Are they going to put us some wins together? Let's break down the power play versus the sharks. We can talk. Or we say, why do they operate the way they do? Why can't the writing be on the wall down at Saddle Dome, Rise, Way, Southeast?
Starting point is 00:28:30 So I might be crazy. I believe the writing is on the wall there. And they know what they're going to do. And they have no comfortability with that message being public. My belief is that they are absolutely in rebuild and selling vets this year. Beyond Rasmus. See, and I agree. But does the guy at the very top allow it to happen?
Starting point is 00:28:54 That's the only fly in the ointment. And I think that. But that's not the only fly. That's the ointment and the fly. It's the elephants. That's the whole. I think so. Otherwise, you know, if you're told as a GM, you're not allowed to do X, Y, and Z, that's not on the whiteboard.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It's not alone. It's like, it's like asking about trading Jerome. Well, we're not allowed to do it. Can't even talk about it. Yeah. Now I'm getting pissed off. You can't say rebuild. Because even going back to the effing contracts that they gave two years.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Who the fuck gets two years? I think probably everyone that's worked in Calgary for a long time to be fair. Okay. and the 31 other teams? Not often. When do you see a two-year extension? Two. That's how they do business.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I know. I know. You don't talk to Mer? That just to me says that there's too much in her. Now I'm mad. Don't be mad. Because I think where you're at is exactly where a lot of fans are. And they're like, we want the rebuild.
Starting point is 00:30:01 It'll make things turn around quicker. And like, let's get young. sell hope. But they might be right there and just saying, yeah, but we're going to get way more in Feb March than we are now. Yeah, because it's brilliant, smarter than everyone else. I don't know that's how the whole league works. There's been two trades in the last six months, and they were both last week.
Starting point is 00:30:21 No, and I said it, I think a couple weeks ago when Trilliving made the, when he made the Tyler to Foley deal to bring it in. I think that was January. No, that was the February deal. The Lindholm one, that was ahead of the deadline. That was January. And that's because the return was great. I think it was Jan 31.
Starting point is 00:30:38 Yeah. Because we were out there. It was February. And those were kind of deemed early. Right. And so they were a month or so ahead of the deadline. So we're not quite there. I'm just talking big picture.
Starting point is 00:30:46 I don't know. Because I talk. Coleman, Conry, those guys are playing great. Coleman scores short-handed breakaway the other night. He's had a great season. Yeah. And everything you hear about him.
Starting point is 00:30:56 And you guys is what you want on a team. But I, he's a perfect dad. You guys are full of shit anyway. You don't know what the deals were. in December compared to February or the That's why I bristle at it. Right?
Starting point is 00:31:10 So here's the thing. Here's my thoughts. I'm not saying you're wrong. I think there's a pinch point. There's actually science that people won't accomplish. Blah, that gets into my hokey pokey, all kinds of things. What's Blake?
Starting point is 00:31:24 What's Blake Coleman? He's a perfect third line checking way. Okay. So we don't know that yet out of his career. We're just figuring, oh, well, let's see you. You're not going to get the best bidding war right now. because someone's going to lose a third line winger on a cup contender between. No, that's the only differentiating factor is if somebody does.
Starting point is 00:31:41 If somebody does. So if somebody does. And in an Olympic year with a compressed schedule, I think the bet on injuries happening is a real safe. Fucking lame today. I can't take it. Too logical. No, it's just like, like Dino said earlier. Because there's an Olympic action.
Starting point is 00:31:58 Somebody's going to get hurt. But on the flip side, if you're a GM and if you're in, if you're the Colorado Avalanche or you're, you're going to the playoffs. We're going to be a handful. I know what Blake Coleman is. I don't need to lose. You're not scouting bling in February to be in the Blake Coleman. Correct.
Starting point is 00:32:15 It's just that if two other teams do lose wingers, the price goes up for Blake Coleman. You know what? You're so rational. It's not worth having a show, really, because it's just, we just have to wait. Time will tell. Let's just be patient.
Starting point is 00:32:29 What else? Let's talk about something. If you want to tell me about the big trades that go down in December, that involve the types of players we're talking about. What I want to tell you is that you're not having me. It's just painful. Well, I mean, that's a superstar with kind of a different spot than a lot of these others.
Starting point is 00:32:44 But yeah. Stuart Skinner, a superstar, got moved. He was a superstar. Can't believe it. Ask him. Just one three in a row. Asked J. Rudd. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Heartbroken. Oh, yeah. Well, let's do this. There's some guys that are San Jose sharks that you may not even know. I don't know many. Well, so late out there. So we get Jack to pronounce some of their names? That's always good.
Starting point is 00:33:11 If we haven't heard of them, make him pronounce. Can't be making mistakes. Send it to our expert. Yeah. Carrie Price. Is he in tonight? Why are you guys so bullish on the flames? Ten and a half million dollar goal tender.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Heck of a shark. You don't hear a lot about it somehow. Maybe it's because of the West Coast late starts. It's a bias, yeah. This is making me grumpy. Ryan Ellis, defenseman. Undersized but gritty.
Starting point is 00:33:44 Peter Lombardius loved Ryan. Zips it around. Zipsing around. Who else? Well, they're still paying all or they're still playing Mark Edward Vlasic money to not play for them.
Starting point is 00:34:00 Could have been a flamethrick. Could have been slipped through their fingers. I think they're happy with Kipper. Yeah, they've got Vlasic this year. It's just kind of funny. looking at their roster. So they've got Carrie Price and Ryan Ellis taking up cap space.
Starting point is 00:34:14 What did they get for those guys? And then in money, it's like they bought out Martin Jones. They're still paying him not to play. Classic has this year and next year. This year it's $4.6 million. Get a huge contract and it was awful the last couple years. They're keeping money in retention on Eric Carlson after that trade. They traded hurdle to Vegas.
Starting point is 00:34:34 They're retaining on him for this year and four more years. Four more? they can afford to do it. They got young guys who are in entry levels and it's not whatever. You don't want to waste money forever. Four years long time. It's going to flip pretty quick. A lot of those do come off, but it's for Mike Greer when he takes a look at us,
Starting point is 00:34:53 we got a lot of, I'm guessing like we all do. You sit down and kind of look at your budget. It's like, okay, so there's our Netflix subscription every month and this and that. He's doing what you do. Is, am I still paying insurance on this cell phone that I have? haven't had since 2006. Damn it.
Starting point is 00:35:11 Damn it. This is $19 a month. I'm paying an insurance. I'm annoyed. Well, maybe I'm assuming they, and don't assume, I'm assuming that they got decent return for taking on some of those. You'd be surprised. Like, the guy they got for Carrie Price,
Starting point is 00:35:34 leave in Montreal. Like, it's a prospect you've never heard of. we can take a look. I'm just curious because it feels like there was an opportunity for the flames to maybe do a couple of those deals. Ganon La Rock was the with a fifth round pick.
Starting point is 00:35:53 A fifth rounder. The take on. No, and it was in the cap pinch era, which is in the Reverever fellas. The coyotes did this famously. They'd pick up seconds. Look, inch is going to go away.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Because everyone's got cap space next year. Like there was a five-year period where it basically didn't grow. And teams are like, I need to get rid of this money. And if there's only a couple teams that can be the bank. Yeah, but you don't think it'll come back? No, I don't. I think the next four to five years we'll see. They've already looked at the next three.
Starting point is 00:36:26 It's going up like $10 million a year. And the agents are saying that's way under value should be higher. Well, that's weird that an agent would say. No, fair. And the league will push back and say, no, it's about right. And we're actually going to pay 4% on top of players' salaries this year because we're going to be over our revenue projections. That's new. That doesn't happen. But we're in a cap growth period versus a stagnant one that it was flat.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Then they went into COVID, so they had to pay all that debt back. Now you get a new US TV deal. Like it's revenues are way up. If you, and you know what, like you say, the flames don't do it. This would be an interesting watch over the next few years. Because if this is, it sure feels like this is kind of, we sit here and we, we harp all the time about the sharks are kind of what we would want the flames to that's a model take on take on some bad money helps some other teams with cap relief get something in return don't trade away
Starting point is 00:37:20 some guys eat money if you have to try and get younger try and get better you finish near the bottom pick high if you can yeah and what have they done they've done all of those things in the last few years obviously it's top five in the last three years michael misa last year went second overall there. Celebrini went first in 24. They took Dickinson at 11 in 2024 as well. Sam Dickinson who's playing. Will Smith just put on the IR. He was their
Starting point is 00:37:47 fourth pick in 2023. It's pretty amazing to have three of three guys from two drafts that quickly come into the line up. Well, that's their top three centers. The next deck they can make it work, right? It's, it's pretty, yeah, and Misa seems like he's pretty good for it. And so that, that is going scorched earth
Starting point is 00:38:05 rebuild. That's Chicago model. That's the San Jose model. The flames haven't been quite bad enough and aren't wanting to put themselves in it. They want to do a little more. See, and that's where it's. I'm with you. I'd rather see them those. And even the term scorched earth, they were, they mismanaged, which is what happened to the flames.
Starting point is 00:38:24 And they realized that the only way to get out of this is to. And so, yeah, sure, call it scorched earth. But it wasn't like they had LeBron James and said, fuck this. It was going to dump. Like, it was forced upon them. And what we're mad about in Calgary's fans is that we feel like this is real obvious for this team, but they're not seeing it. I agree. And what you were going to remember, like San Jose made the playoffs, I think 15 of 16 years.
Starting point is 00:38:50 It was an incredible run. They got to a final. They never won. But it was like playoffs every year. My pick out of the West, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like everyone, it was a darling team. They were fun to watch. They were awesome forever.
Starting point is 00:39:02 But they had to be bad for a long time. And that's something that this owner doesn't have the appetite. for. What do you mean? He doesn't have the appetite. He's eating it every year. It's not, though. They haven't picked him the top five ever.
Starting point is 00:39:13 Yeah, but practically. No, no, no. But what you're saying is that he doesn't have the appetite to be bad, but they are bad. Like, how many years did the sharks miss the playoffs? Well, how many years did we miss the playoffs? In a row? I mean, it was the biggest stretch is probably, what, seven years before 2004? And that was.
Starting point is 00:39:27 Yeah, but in a lot, we haven't been in the playoffs since when. This will be year four. Well, what the fuck are we talking about? How many years does it become? It was six, you're not straight enough. Sorry for the sharks. 2020, they missed. I'm not saying, like, I want to do what you're talking.
Starting point is 00:39:42 I know you do. But the owner seems to think that they're not in that neighborhood. And when they have 96 points last year, you can understand them. But, I mean, it does feel like, you missed. Boy, like, you never know deals on the table, but you can look at a marketplace and say, is this a good or a bad time to sell? And last year, it was an unbelievable time to sell a defense. You know what?
Starting point is 00:40:01 And like, we think we're right. Just ask us, we'll tell you that we think we're right. But I, man, what I hear that. it's like, well, ownership, they thought they had 96 points last year. So we're, we're a good team. It's like, oh my God, you can't be running this thing. If you think that, like, that's way too binary. Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:23 We almost made it. So we must be good. We beat this team and that team lost to this team. So we must be better than that team. Like that it's, you need to have a little bit more. It was a great year. But there's a lot of things that you're counting on repeating that weren't probable. Like, Nazam having a career.
Starting point is 00:40:37 year at age 34. Is he going to do it again at 35? It's good, but it's not going to score 34. I'm not here to, I don't know, run last year's team. They played admirably, right? They worked their asses off. But here's the other thing. Fine. If you think you're good, why in the F didn't you go get the scoring wingers that you needed that would have pushed you into the playoffs? What are you? Are you in or are you out? Because that's what this team is. in no man's land. Are you in? Fine.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Go out of top six guy. Go get a number one setter. Well, I can't. Well, no shit. Then you're out. Yeah, like we... It becomes obvious when you try to answer your own question.
Starting point is 00:41:19 What do we need to be really good? Well, we need a number one center. Do you have one? Let's go get a number one center. Well, we don't have the assets or the ability to get a number one center. So you're not? So you're not good, though.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Good? Yeah. Oh, we're good. Well, we can't sell good. Well, what do you mean? You said it. Ask us, we're right. But like, go ask the flames owners if they're right. Because you've never made the playoffs two years in a row since Rett played for the team.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Actually. You got lucky on a bubble year that got shortened by COVID and you won a playing round. That's the only time that my 10-year-old children have seen back-to-back post seasons. Like, we can be here and think we're right and we're wrong a fair amount. But it's clear, whatever your model's been for the last 25. years isn't right. You could say 30. Like, sorry.
Starting point is 00:42:12 Like, your track record, your track record. Since the early 90s, you have not been anything close to a contender. One year, you caught lightning in a bucket. Yeah. With a blue collar group, with a superstar winger,
Starting point is 00:42:26 and an unbelievable goalie. And it was a dream. That is not a model. Didn't he hear that country song yesterday on the Pinder report? Mr. McKenna. Like, didn't he hear it? Jeez.
Starting point is 00:42:39 Because I know they watch and listen. Yeah, they do. Added us again to this. It's just one of those things. It's like seeing a, especially now in the league with the celebrities and a Cutter Gocee scored an unbelievable last night.
Starting point is 00:42:51 Leo Carlson, Connor Bardard. Like to see all of these, it'd be like you go out and you meet your buddies for golf and they've all got high in. Man, that is a nice car. How is it? It's unbelievable. It's one of the best cars you can buy.
Starting point is 00:43:05 It's one of the best in the market today. Wow. I mean, it's amazing. Yeah. You could probably get one. Yeah. I got my Ford Topaz. It's been reliable.
Starting point is 00:43:20 It gets me home most days. Never let me down. I'm real comfortable. I don't have to move the chair. I don't have to adjust the seat or the steering. It's all dialed in. It's insulting to this fan base when Don Maloney calls that fantasy hockey. because that is how every team that's won the cup in the last 10 years with maybe one exception has done it.
Starting point is 00:43:40 It's not fantasy hockey. It's how well-run teams rebuild. End of statement. Can't say that word, Ryan. Which my organization, you could. Can't say rebuild. Just going to save another couple billion and then we'll show you how to run it. You know, and doing this show, honestly, I came in.
Starting point is 00:44:01 I tried to think of something yesterday to be like, okay, let's not have the same car. conversation. Let's talk. What if they did win a few games? Then it's like, well, it's, but it's hard, especially tonight when you're playing a team that just picked first overall and that guy is going to make the Olympic team and is one of the best players in the world at 19 years of age. Yeah, it's fantasy hockey. That's not real. No, no, it's real. You can turn on the TV and he'll be playing in Italy. It's not fantasy hockey. He'll be playing. He's one of the greatest players we've ever seen at 20 in this league. Yeah, he'll be there. Yeah, he'll be there. Well, we play a few weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:44:36 And they didn't even score a goal that night. Shut their asses. You're going to show you who's boss. 8 o'clock start tonight. Oh, that's late. Flames and sharks. Flames and sharks. We've got biking Mike on Afterburn it tonight.
Starting point is 00:44:54 It's a little bit like, you know, Kevin Adams gets his ass handed to him yesterday. Well, what's there, they've drafted well, but what they haven't done is develop anyone into being really strong. Like, it's a, you can't look at an organization and go, well, they do, if they only do one thing right, that's not enough. Yeah. You got to do it all. So it can't, well, we'll spend to the cat.
Starting point is 00:45:20 Well, so what? If you're overpaying a bunch of plumbers to, that doesn't mean anything. Well, we're going to spend a development. Okay, awesome. What about scout? It has to be all of it. Yeah. And, you know, but Gula gets run in Buffalo for, for, for,
Starting point is 00:45:35 He just gets run because it's 14 years without making a playoffs. So a bit rightfully so. But I think they were chinty in the development side. They were chinty in the coaching side. They lost a lot of trades. They were, right?
Starting point is 00:45:50 Like, it was bad GM. You have to operate in, you can't just pick one thing and say, oh, we're really good at this. It won't be good enough. And so if you're frustrated with where this group's at, you can take solace in the fact that Connie's done, like B minus to B plus on trades.
Starting point is 00:46:09 I'm giving them something in the A's A minus or A on draft and development. We've seen a lot of really good later picks come through. We continue to see guys. Who? Yeah. Well, I mean, geez, Wolf's the seventh rounder. Was that Connie's pick? No, like their last two draft classes are guys that have really come along with.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I'm trying to poke a little bit of holes because it's a conversation. You're saying it as a blank. It's like when you said Mir Manov's a right of your left. It's like, well, he's not. he's not going out July 1, spending stupid money. Like, they're doing a lot of things. That to me is what is just needs one more piece. And the piece is like, understand that even if this group goes on a heater that they don't belong.
Starting point is 00:46:48 They get all the bounces for two weeks. This still isn't contender. As Darrell said it, it's eight days in jet fuel. Like, build us a team that can actually win a series. Yeah. We don't care about 9th or 8th. We're all saying the same thing. It's just there's one piece missing.
Starting point is 00:47:01 They aren't committed enough to this yet. And I'm, I've got Connie for it. but I don't think that, you know, you say he hasn't spent money on July 1st. There's no one wants to come here. You would have to go out with a brink truck. But he had the money to overpay if you wanted. Absolutely. Yeah, but you could go give more money.
Starting point is 00:47:22 So we're applauding him for not being stupid. I'm just saying that's where we're like other teams that make sense. I think in some cases it's like, well, it's sitting on your hands being inactive. That's, I think that is being smart. Patient. And like I said, just judge, judged by the actions, not the words, because I do feel like there's some mixed messages there. And like there are here. Every office where you sit down, there's going to be people that have different things.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But I just, they've not spent on free agents. The trades they have made have had a bit of an eye towards the future. Yeah, all them have. But to go bring it back around. If there is a Blake Coleman deal done while he has time left on his contract, that's a that is. a switch to me. When he's not pending UFA. Because the only time they do is
Starting point is 00:48:08 ride it out, ride it out, ride it out, ride it out. We can always deal with this next year. We can always do with us next year. He's a UFA. We're right out of it. Okay, done. Yeah. And that's where they dropped the ball
Starting point is 00:48:17 with Rasmus last year. This is where they dropped the ball with both of those. Well, you bring it up all the time with Jordano. All backs is in there going, you're not trading my boy. I got no one else to play with. Can't break him out.
Starting point is 00:48:31 I don't know that he is the kind of sway to be on. Okay. We'll move on because it is we are kind of. Let's talk about Friday. Boy. How are you getting? Like I can see. It's coming around.
Starting point is 00:48:44 We're coming around. Are you? Well, make sure you go out this week and get war out before. We'll be a old man hockey. Lots of hand sanitizer, shake cans. That's good. That's good. Out of point.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Coming up on Friday, it is our holiday spirits program. It is the fourth annual. I don't know why we do it necessarily. Yeah. But it is... It seems risky. It's perennially, perennially, one of our most viewed and taken in broadcasts. We will sit down at Noonish.
Starting point is 00:49:17 There will be guests joining us in studio, some online virtual. How do you try to make it sound like you know what's going to have? No, I don't even know what you call it. That's what it is. We've got quite a guestless. Govies and people joiners. No, it's not. Don't sell it as that because it's not yet.
Starting point is 00:49:33 We have like two people. I don't know if we have a huge. Ryan Pike will join us. Really? Mike Gould. Cammy? Got quite the guest list coming together. Friend of the show.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Yeah. Friend of the show. But here's what it is. So what is it? Well, you know, we sit down and we enjoy the holidays. It's not, it's kind of the barn burner, but it's not really barn burner,
Starting point is 00:50:01 but it's our Christmas party. It's just our little Christmas get together. It's a banger. It's right. And we, it started what, I think maybe, what are your favorite Christmas drinks? Well, you know, we should do. We should have all those someday on the show.
Starting point is 00:50:13 All right, let's do that. So we've put together, it's a lineup card of 10. 10 drinks, 10 cocktails, 10 holiday spirits that we will take in on Friday as we go live. Here is the list so that you may join in at home. The jingle Java, that's a little coffee, and whatever you need to put in there. You need some Bailey's in there? Jack and I stumbled upon an incredible discovery at Ratzhouse.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Something called screwball. It is a peanut butter whiskey. And when you put that in coffee, Jackie, how good was that? Maybe you need some Irish whiskey in there. Whatever you need in your coffee. Little jingled java to start us off. The chrysmoses.
Starting point is 00:51:00 See what they did there? Right? The moses at number two. You kind of say, it's the, just getting you started. Just knocking the edge off. Number three is the holiday rim job.
Starting point is 00:51:14 That is a Caesar. Okay. That's weird what the gingerbread man's doing there. Yeah. Number four, Santa's shitstorm. The dark and stormy. Oh, such a good drink.
Starting point is 00:51:27 Number five, rum all ye faithful, little rum and eggnog. I like that. Number six, the Santa Claw. Now, I didn't know, I threw this. this one in. I don't know if I should mention his name or not.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Anyway, my buddy Greg, he has his drink. It's called the Megaclaw that he kind of came up with. So you take a shot or shot in a half of Tito's vodka or vodka, shot and a half of pink Whitney. And then you top it up with some, probably your, in this case, it would be like the raspberry white claw. So the white claw is your mix. You're saying Oh boy. That's heavy. It's heavy.
Starting point is 00:52:13 I've seen it in action. That'll highly affect it. Do some damage. At my oldest, we got together, it was a couple years ago, my oldest son, his graduation day, and we were having megaclaws. And one of the moms had to leave the banquet. Oh, no. That'll happen.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Yeah. Cut short. Yeah. She got clawed. The mom got clawed. The leg's got clod out. We don't recommend that. Drink responsibly. So that is, in this case, the Santa Claus for the holiday spirit. Number seven, on mistletoe margarita. Like that.
Starting point is 00:52:47 Get the mick that get the shaker going. It's time for tequila at that point. Retro, little ginger all the way. Like that. That's going to be good, too. Little rye ginger. Number nine, your jingle juice, a little cut of your red Christmassy cocktail.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Punch bowl. And the number 10, a little Christmas surprise. a bit of a wild card. We're going to leave it up to either the bartender or the people in the room to see just what it's going to be. And you know what? It's people can freelance if you're playing along at home.
Starting point is 00:53:17 Whatever you want to do at the, just to cap it off. Wow us with your creativity. That's right. With a little Christmas surprise. That is what's coming up on Friday. That megaclaw is scaring me a bit. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:53:31 That's going to be a, that's like a knife of course. Yeah. Yeah. It's delicious. That might spin you out into the ditch pretty quick that one. Jeez. It's not ice sealed. Siple. Slipple.
Starting point is 00:53:44 I could have a slip and fall. McLeod Law in the case. So that's what's coming up. Jack, what are your thoughts? How do you feel about Friday? I'm excited for Friday. This is quite something. No, let's be honest.
Starting point is 00:53:56 The first one, it's coffee a little bit of something. You're telling you, you got to chase down the screwball. I've had it before. I'm not, I'm not, I'm, he doesn't like it. I like peanut butter. when it's peanut butter. He doesn't like meat. I don't need peanut butter in my, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Like Reese's piece, it's not my thing. Peanut butter cookies. No, I'll just have a, I'll just have a chocolate chip cookie. Peanut butter on my toast. That's about where I draw the line.
Starting point is 00:54:22 So anyway, just, but you're having just a splash of something in your coffee. The chrysmosis. I mean, that's orange juice with a little something in there,
Starting point is 00:54:30 right? Champagne. So we're on, we're on to the number three there. We haven't really, we're barely dipping a toe. The Caesar? Right?
Starting point is 00:54:37 The Caesar? Oh, it's delicious. Midday. The dark and stormy. See, Pinder loves the dark and stormy and boom, wouldn't. It's fine. It's a big of bamboo and ginger. Yeah, it's fine.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Then rum, the little rum and eggnog. And then the claw. The old Santa Claus. Look out. Yeah, six. That shaft in there. She can pulled it. Many a drink got pulled.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Well, you can only have ten. I'm not criticizing. I'm just noticing. General observation. Power play doesn't score. I'm going to bring it up. Yeah. Well,
Starting point is 00:55:13 it was just, that's, there's a lot to get in there. Rye, vodka. Maybe you have gin in the jingle. Diversify. A lot of boozes in here.
Starting point is 00:55:24 I think this is our best list yet. This is a nice list. We cut the beers. Because what is the shaft? Chef's just coffee. Yeah. We're having the coffee. It's just like having two.
Starting point is 00:55:35 coffee drinks. It was kind of like the beer and clam, two clam drinks with a caesar. It's more to keep you awake. Yeah. The mid-run caffeine input is the only reason you do a chef. I don't worry about you. Well, if I pass out, I pass. You know what? I will check in around seven or eight just to see how your energy levels are. That mix ratio in the Santa Claus, I'm telling you, right there. That is going to be the TSN turning point. Either survive that or you don't. So you have a couple of days if you need to go to the store and get the ingredient everything you need to play along at home
Starting point is 00:56:10 we'd love it if you'd join us that's coming up on Friday so I'm not going to be on the bench coaching my kid that night no we no there's some planning for sure that has to go into it leave your cars at home
Starting point is 00:56:23 I think you should I think coffee Calgary would ban me I think you absolutely should go and breathe out of tight skates after one of these a few years ago and the one assistant's like No, no, no, no, no. Up to the lounge.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Yeah, I know, I'm just tired of skates. I know. I know. While we're in it, because we're right there. And I kind of forgot that we would be doing this, but the best Christmas ever, the keys to the BC, every day, we're trodding out another one.
Starting point is 00:56:50 Yes. We've been, uh, I hope everybody's feeling it. I hope everybody is in the spirit. Best Christmas ever. It's well within your control. Go out through them. Grab.
Starting point is 00:57:02 It's not, it's not just about what's under the tree or any of that. Sorry, kids. not going to be anything. There's little things you can do along the way to really bring up your spirit and everybody around you. Yesterday was drunken caroling. Drunk caroling.
Starting point is 00:57:16 We could do that here, baby. Soverec, caroling, I'm sure, is great. No, it's not. But your performance will be far more authentic if it's drunk caroling. And you're going to think it went really well. Yeah. Interesting choice words, but sure.
Starting point is 00:57:30 You're really going to feel like we were good, hey? Oh, yeah. I think you sound are you showing us? Those people. they're like, we nailed it. Yeah, they were, nailed it. They had practiced up and everything. Well, it felt like the one guy finally, he kind of was pent up and then it finally got.
Starting point is 00:57:45 And then it was like, he really broke through. Yeah, really broke through. So today's key to the BCE, you saw it in there. It's a bit of a double up. But you know what? Sometimes you go over to somebody's house or whatever's happening. Oh, you want to drink. What do you want to drink?
Starting point is 00:57:59 We got this. We got, what do we? What do we? Uh, you know, I'm good for right now. I just, you know, kind of. Ryan's never said. No, he's never said that. He's,
Starting point is 00:58:08 there's nothing like the optics of having a nice big tub of jingle juice. A red, everybody loves red. You think you go back to when you're a kid, like red Kool-Aid? A punch bowl? Either a punt. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Either a, and we'll talk about it. Because there is that. It's the jingle juice. A little holiday. What are you putting in there? Are you putting, You can put vodka.
Starting point is 00:58:36 You can put some gin. And you spike it with other kinds of weird things. Well, I was going to say, one of my favorites. Grand mushrooms. You think of that smell, kind of like, you know, nutmeg and all that. The smell of cinnamon. You don't be afraid to put a little fireball in there.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It'll give you just a little bit of that cinnamony, Christmassy deal going on. So maybe, okay, so it's cranberry juice or cranapple or pomegranate or just make sure it's red. There's all kinds of internet recipes and that. You want to put gin. You want to put, yeah, the moscato. Maybe you want to use red wine.
Starting point is 00:59:13 Just get it red. Maybe put some fizz in there. Some fresca's always kind of a nice little bit of a swerve. Gives it a bit of a more of a citrusy thing. Maybe you want your sprite or whatever. Nice citrus wheels in there. Cranberries floating. You got the cranberries in there.
Starting point is 00:59:29 You walk into a place. Why don't you just have a glass of punch? Just have some. We got some jing. My neighbor's rich, and on Thursday, she's having people over, I guarantee you. Oh, yeah. Jingle juice for sure. You're going to want a cup.
Starting point is 00:59:43 And you might have more. Maybe you want to have the little. There's a nice rim job. The little rim job there in the top. That looks like some sugar, sugar, cinnamon made these last roast. Smurry? That is roastsmery in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So what do you do if you don't have a punch bowl? Well, you can go, you can get one. Because I feel like it's going to go over. over. Oh, yeah. So you'll use it here. When am I ever going to use it? You're going to use it in the summer a couple times probably. Because you're going to be thinking, we could do like a summer punch. You yuck a fuck. Yeah, we got some people. We could probably, you will. So you can get the punch bowl like you saw there in that first picture. Fancy. A little messy. You know, I don't know. Are you dipping in with your cup? Are you using a ladle? What are you doing? Well, like using the cup. There's the other ones that are a little bit more. It's kind of comes in a stand with. a little spigot, the little tap in the bottom. You can do that.
Starting point is 01:00:37 That's, then it's hands free. It's a little faucet. Oh, Jeremy over here. Yeah. I like that better, yeah. Get his, uh, get his hands on there. I've seen it done. You got one of those big jugs of washer fluid.
Starting point is 01:00:49 Just rinse that some bitch out. Yeah? Sure. You can use that. Give it a good rinse, would you? Double rinse. As long as it can hold. You know, one of the big ones.
Starting point is 01:01:02 You get them from Canadian tire. The Neith brothers used to make Moses' milk in a cooler. Yeah, you can do it. A Coleman or a Yetty. Yeah. Whatever can hold the beverage. If it's got a nice little snap to it, tastes great. Less filling.
Starting point is 01:01:21 And it looks like Christmas with the cranberries. We could use that around here, right here. Yeah. The spirit. So a tough day for the BCE. One guy's sick. The other guy's mad. on them for being sick.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I'm all about this. I still think we're tracking. Oh, we are tracking. It's not a straight line. It's not linear. That's why it's consistent. That's why we're this week three of doing these things to make sure that you have the best Christmas ever at BC. Ah, from the top.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Bum blue rum. White five jorios dipped. TM 66 permit to cut down your tree. Kevin. A Callister Lego House from Home Alone. Puzzle. Homemade nuts and bolts. Front yard tree.
Starting point is 01:02:12 Santa Hat, salty apron, Christmas, crack, drunken caroling, and now jingle juice. You've got 12 items there. Holy. Should we have all those on Friday? It might be nice for people to be able to plug the nuts and bolts. You're going to lose some Lego pieces. That's a guarantee.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Yeah. It's going to be a tough loss. Yeah, I'm not sure it's a puzzling event. No. Oh, I think there would be plenty of people. I think we could live stream us doing a puzzle. It would be different than what happens on Friday. It's a Christmas Day show. Jack, what are your highlights of the of the BCE?
Starting point is 01:02:49 Yeah. Well, you're going to like this. My mom and my stepdad, they cut down a tree on the island, put it on top of the car, and they drove it back. You can go to jail in BC for that. Yeah, you don't want to do that. I don't know what. In Alberta, the TM60s. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:07 I think it's legal. Christmas in prison. John Pryan sang about it. I got the tree. I got to find some of those Oreos. They're only everywhere. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:17 We've already spotted bugle mules around the city, driving in bugle some other provinces. Yeah. The nuts and bolts. Are you done the Lego house? Is that built? It's, I would say it's over half.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Oh, really? It's just, you know what it is? I think a lot of it got done in a hurry. It was like, whoa, this is going to be, we're going to just time it out, just time it all. I think my wife and daughter put together a table or something took last night. That was the latest. You only have a couple minutes. You only need a couple minutes.
Starting point is 01:03:50 How's the puzzle going? It's coming along. Thousner. It's coming along. Yeah. Gosh. Best Christmas is. Oh, the season is great.
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yep. So good. And you know what? I'm going to show you because I may as well, and then we'll get to the Pinda report. But I'm going to show you how it all kind of got started. I'm going to show you how it all got started, at least for me, because you were guys were saying, you were kind of making fun of me. You're like, oh, look, this guy. It goes to the mountains.
Starting point is 01:04:17 It comes back. He's all, whatever. Your kid said it. That was a catalyst. That was right after Thanksgiving, which is the start of December. Went to the Buffalo Mountain Lodge out in Baff, Canadian Rocky Mountain Resorts. Welcome to Barnburn, one of our new partners. It is a beautiful time of year out in the mountains.
Starting point is 01:04:39 It's the holiday season, snow falling, fireplace, crackling, mountain views. Main Street and Banff, Christmas markets. Unbelievable. Let's go. This is what's waiting for you at the Buffalo Mountain Lodge. Okay. Bloody Chris Kringle. I mean, it's right out of a Christmas movie, guys.
Starting point is 01:06:37 Fireplace in your room? In the room. Snaping and popping and cracking. Oh. Fresh mountain air. snow peaked mountains right outside your window. Good, it's done for Dean. Look what it's done for me.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Your daughter said, imagine if dad was this happy. I wish you were always this happy is what she said. Yeah. Crazy. Snow falling, fireplace crackling, mountain views for days. Your perfect winter escape is calling.
Starting point is 01:07:02 Book your stay at Buffalo Mountain Lodge and use the rate access code barn burner and enjoy 15% off of your room. How about that? After check in, you settle into that mountain. in life and you do. You just kind of, all of a sudden, the phone's plugged in over on the counter. It never does that when you're at home. So you always got it in your, it's in your pocket. Oh, I just plug it in over here. Just go, okay, yeah. Maybe have a nice little cocktail in the lounge.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Tell me about the lounge. It's cozy. You saw the hound there. He was just living his best life. Hell yeah. The snow and sunshine is, again, it's off the charts. It's what it is. You saw it there. They've got live music from time to time. and the proud, they got the three course Christmas dinner, holiday movies are showing in the Strath Corner Room, the hearty breakfast buffets, Christmas Eve story time with Mrs. Claus. So maybe just you want to think of a quick pivot.
Starting point is 01:07:57 You know what? There's a move. We could do Christmas out there. Why not? What's stopping us? Nothing. That's what's stopping you. Use that code barn burner when you get yourself off the Buffalo Mountain Lodge,
Starting point is 01:08:10 15% off of your room with that rate access code barn burger. it really was. Turn your whole 2025. Yes, turn my whole life around. Turn my whole life around. What do you got going? I don't know. Trying to book.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I was thinking about maybe. You know, I'm going to cheer you up. One last thing before we get into Pinda report. Me? Yeah. I was happy. And he's sick and you're telling me the team's terrible and they can't operate correctly and they don't know what they're doing.
Starting point is 01:08:40 You've lost all conifidence. You know. Full of coneyfinance. brimming. The Buffalo Bills erased the 21 point deficit on the weekend. Pop!
Starting point is 01:08:51 Nobody circles away. And where did they do it? In New England. Those cocky New England fans, Foxxville. LIT rich, spoiled pricks. Yeah. Harvard. So when you're down 21-0,
Starting point is 01:09:05 you're probably getting chirp, the fans are probably nearly in a need pretty good. Well, there's a friendly rivalry, Dean. I don't even know if it's friendly. Probably a different feel as you're strutting off the feel.
Starting point is 01:09:15 with those fans that were chirping you the whole time. Probably a big mouth they're giving it to you. Tech nerds. Yeah. Here's what it may have looked like. Again, I didn't. Shut the front door. That's what you said. Suck a fat dick, bitch. I believe is what he started
Starting point is 01:09:48 with. Thanks for clarifying. Um, one more time. Yeah, sure. Go saute a French duck. That's what he says. And you know what? If I'm Roger Goodell, if I'm Vrable, if I, I got no problem with any of it. Yeah, we did blow a 21-0-0 lead.
Starting point is 01:10:19 You want to, hey. That'll be the flame. You don't want the fans to then hang on to your 21-0-0. That was celebrating leaving the rink in Pittsburgh. Yeah. 5-1. Bitch?
Starting point is 01:10:30 21-0? 21-0. Love it. That is the best thing that happened to the division because if New England was home and cooled and won, like, what do we got left? But now it's, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 01:10:40 One more banana peel. Look out. One more. One more. He won't get in trouble. trouble willie for that? I hope not. I hope not too.
Starting point is 01:10:50 It would be pretty ironic and sad if the show Rets on got him suspended. I can't imagine the NFL thing. Taking the fun out of anything. Yeah, I didn't so much mean that it showed up on our show, but just that the video existed. I'm guessing if I saw it, it's probably made Goodell's desk. I don't trust the NFL. Can't do it. Can't do it.
Starting point is 01:11:13 Ryan Pindoo. All right, boys, time for the Pindle. a report for Village Honda. The winter ready SUV event is on now. Them roads be greasy. Rhett almost ran over a dog yesterday. Make sure your vehicle is equipped for Calgary's
Starting point is 01:11:29 winter. You can check the inventory online at villagehonda.com or stop by the dealership in the Northwest Auto Mall. A wheel drive. Four wheel drive. You notice it today. Let's go. Let's go. Flames Nation, mailbag time. Pike is getting
Starting point is 01:11:44 he's got keyboards humming. around southern Alberta with the latest edition. This went up yesterday at noon. This is just flying. A lot of back and forth. What were you going to say? That's what I was talking about. It's like a coughing pike.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I read this. Here's your schedule. We're midway through December. Still a lot of hockey left fellas. That's seven games before the new year. We mentioned it. They closed their two-game California Rorty tonight in San Jose. Late start at seven.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Then home for two. do more divisional games. Then they go up to Edmonton before Christmas, host Edmonton on the other side of Christmas. I love the Edmonton bookends of Christmas. That's awesome. Love it. Season opening one, this is perfect.
Starting point is 01:12:29 Holiday season, rivalry game, one anthem, let's go. Then Boston on the 29th and Philadelphia for the New Year's Eve game. Are you going up for that Edmonton game? I know you love going up. I've been once. I don't ever have to go again. I feel no burden, weight, or pressure now.
Starting point is 01:12:44 Okay. Yeah. I went to the 300s. I cropped-thested thousands of Oilers fans, and I'm done. I'm not going again. And think of the people you infected with this head. This was pretty. I think it was probably the Emminton slop that got me cold.
Starting point is 01:12:58 Minus 35 for 15 blocks. Not ideal. Bottom 10, we talked about it. They're playing well. What is it accomplished? Almost nothing. There they are second worst in the NHL. 32 teams. Where are 31? Where are 31? 3 and 1? So prior to that 13 minus,
Starting point is 01:13:13 they had only five wins at that point. It's how bad that start was. Yeah, and honestly, it's how good that start was last year. Think about 10 points if you took it off last year's season. What do we care about last year for? Just because we talked about how it probably messed with management's head or at least the owners. Well, then I don't want to say that because maybe the owners, maybe I'm trying to have confidence. And if conifidence meant that he couldn't see the writing on the wall last year, then I have to lose my conifidence.
Starting point is 01:13:41 I think Connie has a clue. And last year was not a mirror. for him. Or was it a mirage? You ever have a mirage bar, Jack? You ever had one? Oh, the chop bar. A marage bar.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Is it a coconut in it? No, that is. It's like a narrow bar. Fluffy bubbles. You get me one yet? Yeah, get him a mirage. Have you cooked him his lasagna dinner yet? Working on it.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I think I'm going back to the brisket, actually. Jesus. Because someone else is going to do it? This is like the never-ending story. No, it is? How old is pizza debt? Eight, nine months? He's like the laws,
Starting point is 01:14:22 we get past a certain amount of time. You can't go after him. Yeah, what is that called? Statute of limitations. Thank you, Dean. Finals from last night. Let's jump around the league. Jump around.
Starting point is 01:14:33 Jump around. It got nasty again between Florida and Tampa. Two quick goals from the Panthers out of the gate. We had some scraps. We had some high sticks. There was a forearm shiver from Seth Jones on Brandon Hagel. Will not be suspended, but likely we'll get a fine.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Ducks got it done on the Trubukrider returned to New York. They went 4-1. Sends scored late to tie, then won in overtime. Hellebuk back was very good, but the Jets, again, drop a point. Did you want to see it?
Starting point is 01:14:59 I do have that. This Jake Sanderson that you've talked about this guy, ties the game, and then he'll be the guy behind the goal. Okay. Making the pass. Does this happen quick?
Starting point is 01:15:12 It's two. How how, okay. Got it. Just going to pull up and Zoop right off the wall on the tape. You got to play billiards, kids. Go play some billiards.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Learn the angles. Go down to the billiard hall, kids. Rip a few darts. Figure out those angles. Winnipeg's like, okay, yeah, just so cycle it down low. All right. We're in good shape.
Starting point is 01:15:35 You good? I might get a chance. Yeah, make sure you watch Stutzlow, though. Don't let him. Oh, all right. Nice pass. Well, I'll take Stutzel. Have you got catch?
Starting point is 01:15:41 Nope. I'll tell you what. Nice finished. Good night. Stupid defense. When you can't let the pass. go through the slot, idiot. Tell them.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Yeah. Tough loss for the Jetsos. I hope that's not our pal, Josh. Fesna trophy winner in that. Just let him stop the. Jets have lost 10 of 13. 10 of 13. Jets. You get Connor Helvick back on Saturday.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Supportive of the Jets, but I don't like Manitoba, so it's hard. Well, they don't like it either, to be fair. We were begging for three points in that Predators Blues game. It did not happen. Nashville hangs a five spot on the blue. lose. Oof. The stars took care of business
Starting point is 01:16:18 at home against Kings. Did you see the Rantan added again last night? He heard more people. So go to a goalie this time, didn't he? Coming across. So this is the Rantanan night. It's why he's...
Starting point is 01:16:30 Rantanin. That's why he's ranting. He's big. He's strong. Now, does he get pushed into Kemper? Enough. This was kind of like the Sam Bennett went on Stolars.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Was it Stolars last year where he kind of comes in and then, oops. Oh, my elbow. Did it, my elbow hit you in the head? Kemper left. Exactly what Sam Beth did. Keper left the game.
Starting point is 01:16:50 Can cost the gold didn't return. Can we go back to that? So, I'm sorry, Jack. But when did the F did people become this soft? So this is a injury, have to leave the game scenario? Go ahead, Jack. I mean, I agree with you.
Starting point is 01:17:10 It looks. That's Death Valley right there. That's Scott Stevens catching you coming through the middle. like there are guys that played after getting drilled by Scott Steven at Center Ice going 800 like this. But he did leave the game because I was with you.
Starting point is 01:17:27 I was when I saw Rantan hit, it's like oh it's kind of what innocuous is that a word? Yep. So like Perry and the bench is screaming at Rantin and this is now what the third time this year he's done something to. He's reached. Kepras reaching out is pretty much, I don't
Starting point is 01:17:43 know that Rantin's in the blue. And there is contact with I believe, Dumlin, which gives him a little excuse. I'm with Rantin on this one. Shut up, Perry. Contact sport. Yeah, Corey Perry, again, he's the moral tone setter for how to treat goalies. Got it.
Starting point is 01:18:00 I don't think this is anything. I hope Kemper's fine, because to your point, it looks pretty innocent, but then again, you never know. Because Forzsburg came in and finished the hockey game. You would think if you're Kemper, you're going to, maybe I'm trying to draw one while I'm staying in the game. Anyway, so that's one part of Rantan, so that frustrates you. What else does he do? What else does he do? Well, he's going to be along the wall here.
Starting point is 01:18:21 And that's quite, geez, that's quite a pass to do Shane. Look at this, look where he's looking. No look. Zip. Oh,
Starting point is 01:18:32 I doubt he just got absolutely fool by that look off. He bit. And then there's this in the third, two one game, to the middle, Zing. Well, that's,
Starting point is 01:18:46 what a plan he had. going to take out the goal. Get to the line chess, man. Blanchess. You're a civ, for you. He's a superstar. That guy. Forsberg, one of the big July 1-2 signings from Ken Holland.
Starting point is 01:19:01 He burnt that $20 million pretty quick when he knew he wasn't going to get Marner. Sabers, follow it. Brett, you're kind of all over the place on this one. You're defending the owner. You're saying it's kind of on. I don't think it's the owner's fault. I think the owner has tried to provide whatever. He's the person he's hired, I think he's said, yeah, make it good.
Starting point is 01:19:26 And the people he's hired have failed. Yes, I would agree with that. He's hired the wrong people, we could say. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think he's in the way. I don't think he's, there's meddling owners. I don't know that that's what's happening.
Starting point is 01:19:38 I don't know if that's happening or not. Here's the data. Feb 11, BT, buys the team. So that's 20, sorry, 14 years ago. Five GMs, eight head coaches, including two Lindy Roughstins, 28 goalies Oh, seven captains,
Starting point is 01:19:54 two first overall picks and zero playoff appearances. The GM of the coach, Lindy Ruff, were there when he bought the team. It was Darcy Riggier and Lindy still. My God, they were there a letter
Starting point is 01:20:05 if you stayed with those guys at that point. It's been a long walk in the... I don't think he drafts goalies. No, the owner's job is to put smart people in place to run the team. He's failed them at that. He tried, but he did not put the right people
Starting point is 01:20:19 there. I'm going to say it again. See again. I know. It's weird out of all of this. He's got the target on Pagula. I've got other targets too. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 01:20:32 What I was going to say is this. Listen to me, people in Calgary. Cheer for the flames. The greatest asset we have is our goaltender. We have a guy that we're going to put in the net and be a top 10, we believe, in the NHL for the next five to 10. to 15 years.
Starting point is 01:20:53 How many goalies did the Sabres have to go through and are still having to go through? So your biggest asset or your biggest wart if you don't have is removed. You have that. Do the turnover and get this moving forward here. Come on. Yeah, they had all mark. You don't have to go find a top 10 goal. You got it.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Now do the other shit. That's right. Don't do the hash of Kippersoft. where you don't add anything around the goalie. Good God. Well, we got a nice score. Yeah, we had a nice core in Buffalo, too. Couldn't score.
Starting point is 01:21:31 Had no power play. No top end talent. But Jesus, our goal, that goalie is good. Goley is not. Sorry. No, it's all valid. It's all valid. The GMs have been a huge part of it.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Here is a lineup of players that were either traded away, left by a free agency, or bought out. Top line, Paturka, Eichel Reinhardt, Skitter, Cousins Hall. Sam Laughan, Johansson, Middle Stats, Savoy, Lafferty, Lazzarok Poso, your fourth line, your top pair, Ristelan, Montur, okay. Lubushkin, Borgon, Yokiharu, Clifton, and Olmark and Kooley in that. It's safe to see a lot of good hockey players. Have either been traded, bought out, or left.
Starting point is 01:22:20 Probably get a D on the GMing over those 14 years. Maybe an F. Well, who have the GMs been? A lot of first timers. It is awe that he's turned to. Bauderle, Adams, Murray, Tim Murray. Tim Murray, yeah. He was in AGM in Ottawa
Starting point is 01:22:37 before. It's been rough, man. Real rough. And they went three in a row. About a heater. I don't know about this is kind of cheeky, isn't it? Like, was Kyle Okpozo? Well, I mean, he's, yeah. Solid player. Oh, and at Guinness Prime.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Yeah, not when they had them, no. Curtis Lazar. We should have kept him around. 14. Four, we go get him. Jeff Skinner was so brutal. They had to get him out of there. The top line is something, though,
Starting point is 01:23:06 because you've got two guys going to the Olympics there, three, I guess, Germany, if they go. That might be the oddest thing, and you've brought it up, but we'll... The Jack Eichol, we don't like how you're dealing with your neck fiasco. Yeah. Still don't. Didn't then?
Starting point is 01:23:22 No. It felt like it wasn't even about the neck. It was like, we're going through a divorce process, and now I'm mad at you about you parked in the wrong side of the garage, and I'm going to make it about the, it's not about where the car's parked in the garage. If that happened year one or two into that contract, I feel like it goes differently, but the story had kind of been written, it felt like. It was Splitsville.
Starting point is 01:23:44 It was time. Bad news on Connor Bedard, we told you yesterday in the show, he's going to get re-evaluated in the new year. Let's hope this doesn't affect his Olympic availability because he's put together a hell of a case. Kevin Weeks, giving us the eyebrows. Separated shoulder. Oh, dear.
Starting point is 01:24:03 I will say this. Weeks doesn't tweet often, but he can be trusted. It tells you should pretty good. Never hear from, never hear from. Boom. That's you.
Starting point is 01:24:11 Group in Atlanta, building a rink. Okay. I played with Weeks, so I can say that. Yeah. Which place of him? Florida.
Starting point is 01:24:21 I didn't know that. Okay. He was kind of up and down. Young guy. Getting to trouble all the time. It's not going to shit. Monday night or last night. Two weeks ago, Jack said,
Starting point is 01:24:31 fire Tomlin, zero to ten confidence. Today, extension, 10 out of 10. What? As the Steelers, as everyone does,
Starting point is 01:24:39 beat the dolphins in freezing temperatures. Boys, we're getting hot at the right time of the year. December football. Aaron Rogers is playing his best football. The defense came to play yesterday. Best football of this year. Did you watch the time?
Starting point is 01:24:55 Watch the. Dolphins and their ineptitude? So like Phil Rivers. He's playing his best football of the season. He looked good yesterday. He can still throw the damn ball. Dick Rivers? Rogers.
Starting point is 01:25:08 I'm happy for you, Jack. I am too, Jack. I don't mind the Steelers doing well. What's their record on Mondays now? I think Tomlin's like 16 and 1 now. They haven't lost a Monday nighter since like 91. I think Chuck Null was a hell of a huge. Chuck.
Starting point is 01:25:22 Yeah, it's like, what were the dolphins doing? well, they're in cold weather. They got the ball. They were getting torched on the broadcast. Well, and they should have. And I think Aikman was trying not to torture them more because they were just running a regular offense. No speed, no urgency. It was like, what, are you not trying to win?
Starting point is 01:25:40 Like, you've packed it in with, and what, 14 of the 15 points came late? Late, yeah. Yeah, they were taking their time the last seven minutes, just running the play clock. No hurry up. No. Oh, good job, Jack. We got a doozy on Thursday. Not only is it the Calais Yarn Croke Bowl with the flames and the Cracken,
Starting point is 01:26:03 but this Thursday nighter is shaping up to be a gem. Two teams with great records vying for that top seed buy in the NFC. It is the Seahawks and the Rams from Seattle. Get some weather in there. This is perfect television. Why do we want? I don't want weather. I want to go to L.A.
Starting point is 01:26:23 I don't tell you. going to you. I'm saying you're going to watch it on your couch. You want snow in Seattle. I think the Seahawks have lost their mojo. Why don't you get a set private jet? We'll go to the game. We'll be back for the party. Perfect. Yeah. Do it. You do it.
Starting point is 01:26:38 I'm talking. He's got a Christmas party. He's got two of that line. At least. At least. Well, I mean, I'm going to get to the least. I like how it crops or kind of. Every year. Is it crops up on him? Like he's now saying that there's a kids hockey game he's supposed to coach this thing yeah this is he's the most organized
Starting point is 01:27:00 person i know he's got four pens he's got a lot of pens he's got a lot of books notes yes uh back to the third senator go ahead good game yeah i think much like last year the whole sam darnald feel good everything's good look at this it's kind of like it's struck midnight i feel like there's some pumpkin, some Vikings vibes here from last year. Some pumpkinitis going on out there. I hate pumpkinitis. Is that what I'm coming out? Oh, good.
Starting point is 01:27:30 You don't want pumpkinitis. Hard to get rid of. It's hard to get rid of pumpkinitis. Here are the odds of the game. The Thursday in there, it's a little early, but let's just take a little sneak peek. That's all right, Ryan. Because I know, I'm excited.
Starting point is 01:27:40 It's not a lot of football left. Yeah. Comes quick. Coin flip, both minus 110 on the money line. Your line, Rams minus one. Rams all day. What kind of weather we get? What kind of San Darnal we get?
Starting point is 01:27:55 What kind of Seattle defense performance we get? We don't know, but we know the Rams been damn good. It doesn't sound like love Devonte Adams, who had the hammy pop on him or whatever it was. He's not been ruled out yet, but it seems like week to week is the designation. So it was a little pumpkinitis there too. Great year.
Starting point is 01:28:12 Oh, wait, what, like 50? Book and a cool went off last week, too. So it's not like they won't move the ball with Stafford. Staff Daddy. Those drunks coming in a Friday? Oh, no, they just in this room. Do you want them here? No, God.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Why not? They will instantly show up once the invites out. Can't hear me? We need a rubber room and straight jacks. They will instantly show up. They will be here. Let's put them in Studio 3 and just have a camera up. I'm supposed to have a drunk tank.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Maybe like towards the end they can come. Oh. We'll talk about it. They'll catch up. quick. I definitely am not worried about them picking up the pace. They will grab slack and yank. Finally, we ended on another recap of the week from our buddy. We just love them. We don't know how to explain it, but here's John Gruden. I love teams that go on a roll, especially late in the year in December. Teams like the Denver Broncos who just won their 11th straight game yesterday by
Starting point is 01:29:13 beating the Green Bay Packers. They have an excellent offensive line led by Garrett Bulls and Quinn Miners. They have two talented receivers, Cortland Sutton and Troy Franklin, shut down corners, Pat Sertan and Riley Moss. They have two run-stuffing linebackers, Alex Singleton, and Drey Greenlaw. And they can get after the quarterback
Starting point is 01:29:33 with Nick Benito, Jonathan Cooper, and Zach Allen. But how about Bo Nix? Four touchdowns. Four different receivers. Scramble. Playmaking. Punch.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Boom. I want you to start doing these after Flamescans. Yeah, do that burned after burner. Okay. I don't want to get scared in the morning. Yeah, yeah. He does, yeah. Well, we have similar passion.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Yeah. That's why you reached out for sport on your birthday. That we cover, yeah. Similar passion. That's Pind Report this Tuesday, December 16th for Village Honda. A reminder, pre-owned vehicles. Over 90 units on the lot. Access to 500 or more.
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Starting point is 01:30:27 Thank you, Jay. Beninova. Yesterday was 10, nine days now. So. Don't mess it up. Don't mess it up. Don't mess. Village hot. Yeah, I'm kind of concerned. I was well ahead. I thought I had a good grasp and I even had a direction that I was going. the train. Not great.
Starting point is 01:30:51 You got nine days. It feels like a long time. Get on it. Merry Christmas to everybody at the hearing loss clinic. Travis and Sabrina. Thanks for the bottle of wine, Rosie. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Yeah. Appreciate that. Very nice. There's a lot of nice people out there. And the hearing loss clinic, happen to be some of the nicest and the very best at what it is that they do, which is giving you, making you feel empowered to go out.
Starting point is 01:31:26 where maybe you're avoiding social situations, hearing loss impairment, you can't hear people, you want just too noisy, that sort of thing, especially this time of year. This would be one of those Christmas parties, gatherings, get-togethers that maybe you would just avoid all together. There's no need for that. Custom ear protection, musician molds, custom in-ear stage monitors, that's in addition to what they do. But people of all ages can suffer from it. Hearing loss, hearing issues can be especially troubling for kids, there marks me, suffer because of it. Doesn't seem right. Don't do that to a kid.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Studies are showing that health risks like dementia, depression, and others, linked to untreated hearing loss, and there's no reason to leave it untreated. There are five locations at Calgary, five more in BC. Hearingloss.ca is the website. They are delightful people. I'm delightful, too. You should tell your buddy in Murrow, maybe my ears don't hear that. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:32:25 I don't know. I think so I'm a jerk. I feel like it's a different level of delightful then. Oh, I would have hearing loss in the, an echelon above. It's so nice. Just different criteria? Different degrees of delightful.
Starting point is 01:32:39 Delightful degrees. Yeah, but when I get delightful, I can, can I, maybe I'm below them to start, but then when I get, maybe. We'll check in on Friday to about, yeah, like Jack's buddies. Maybe you get there in time. Whereas they're just kind of always. They're always there.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Always so kind. Hearingloss.ca is the website. Make a part of your 2026. Make a deal with yourself. You know what? I've heard when we're talking about it. Going to do it. Hearing loss.
Starting point is 01:33:10 That's a good idea. You could throw hearing loss first week of January. Second week, you go get outdoordental. Dot.ca. Outdoor. Dot dental is the website. Dot dental. You don't remember that.
Starting point is 01:33:24 Investment. So once a week, just chip away and then you won't feel so bad about yourself The way you acted over the Christmas holidays. Get on the good foot for 20s. I talk about resolutions and stuff. These are actual steps you can take. Don't resolute anything. Just do it.
Starting point is 01:33:38 Just do it. Where's Resolute Bay? Is that a bad spot? Feels cold. I was going to say, that's deep water. Where there's some ships that went under there? Is that why we called? I thought that was late.
Starting point is 01:33:54 Getcha Goumi. Let's look at our picks. Yes. Bet 365. Retro. Vitamin C. He's not always this excited. Every week, we do some football picks.
Starting point is 01:34:07 I mean, we do it daily. We always tell you about it. But when it comes to the football, we sit down and we put some picks together. With Bet365, it's the best app going. Whatever the moment, it's never ordinary. You got game props, player props, totals, money lies.
Starting point is 01:34:21 They build parlays. They got built in bets. They got all kinds of stuff going in in that app. Download the app. get in in the game, must be 19 or older. Oh, the weather outside is frightful. And your guys' records are surprisingly crappy. When you're excited about two and one, that's what...
Starting point is 01:34:47 I didn't even make those picks. People nearby me made those picks. I was like, I can handle one. I can't handle one. I'm now consulting. So the winning choices on your... card we're not made. Correct.
Starting point is 01:35:00 And our show ride pick, they got shut out, right? Oh, many? No, they got clobbered, but Sincy, yeah. Claubbered. Like zero points. Yep.
Starting point is 01:35:10 It is incredible when we were all in the same page with something, how often it's right? So for us to have won that game in hindsight, plus two and a half. We had a very small window. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:22 Baltimore flexed. Damn it. Brett, nice week. well when I stop and think about things instead of just going with random vitamins
Starting point is 01:35:35 which I was going to this week I wonder what my picks would have been like if my vitamin C pick could yes I don't know I'd let it ride
Starting point is 01:35:42 listen the bills unbelievable they weren't going to be denied LA's good they're just good which is why you should take them on Thursday on with boom
Starting point is 01:35:51 Denver also good and there was no effing way Miami was in the game on Monday night in cold weather in Pittsburgh. Against Jack Steelers. By Tomlin, Monday night? Dolphins are not a cold water mammal.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Very astute. It was easy. Easy pickings. Not as easy for me. Oh. I thought with the Browns and the cold weather, Shudur. It was,
Starting point is 01:36:18 yeah. Who did Detroit? I'm trying to remember. L.A. They were up for a while. See, and I was going to go with Detroit. And I thought, No, no, they're frauds and phonies.
Starting point is 01:36:29 Did you guys see Shadur had the wrong wristband plays? How do you have a wrong wristband? I don't know. Is that one to like throw on the opponent's sideline to get them off the center? The coach is just sabotaging. What are I doing here? No idea. Kevin.
Starting point is 01:36:44 Just the fans, Kevin. Well, I already kind of did it. Once you do it, it's then it's so on the nose. Jack, your average. Yeah, I needed six to get to 500 and I went three and three. So it didn't do anything. 500. No, it didn't. Just for the week.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Caroline. We've only got so many games like full interdial slates left. Start picking 16 games a week, do you know? Yeah, I'm going to have to start 30 games this week. It's going to be a big one. Get an over under and a line on each. Yeah. Geez, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:15 10 and O this week. Put some props in. 10.0 gets back 500. 10 games coming up this week. Do it one at a time. Just slow, you know what I mean? Because sometimes I think you look at the schedule and you jump through. Oh, that's a guarantee.
Starting point is 01:37:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you, no, no, no. Take. Are you listening to Rent? One minute. Okay. With each pick, go. What do I think about Thursday night in Seattle?
Starting point is 01:37:37 Who are you? Well, I said my first. Yeah, but did you take a minute to the? No. Oh. Do you want to sit here for a marinade on it? Rams. Oh.
Starting point is 01:38:55 Love it. It's going to take a while to get 10 games. Love it. Yeah, but it's worth it. Yeah. It's worth it. Because sometimes things just come to you when you, You stop and deeply think about it.
Starting point is 01:39:05 Instead of being rash and irrational and... I'm just, you know, I'm quick on the draw. What about the over under 44? I'm not doing that. Apologies to our audio only listeners. Over. Bang! Wow.
Starting point is 01:40:25 What were you thinking about in there? Was it so much? You have like a Ouija board going on in your head? It wasn't like you're researching. Like you weren't looking at the weather. No, I was like buddy and the hangover movie when those numbers he's like counting cards and those not sure.
Starting point is 01:40:40 You're like in the Matrix. Yeah. What was the over under again? 44. 44. Oh. Okay, hang on. He said 24. Moving on.
Starting point is 01:40:55 I hope both of those hit. They're going to hit. They're going to hit. It'll be great. Guaranteed they hit. Yeah. Over, right? Well, I kind of forgot the number part way through.
Starting point is 01:41:08 Now if I knew it was 45, it's a lot harder. Because that feels, I might want to take it back. I need to know weather. Oh, for Christ. We gave you a whole freaking minute. We'll do it tomorrow. So you think you'll breakfast sandwiches for a minute? What was he doing there?
Starting point is 01:41:28 I thought he said 40 and a half. Well, well, then it's definitely over. That's not even a, you wouldn't have to take any time with that. Well, you told me I have to take a minute. I'm just following the rules. Tyler Tifoli, one goal away from 300 on his career. Three hundred. I like Toffee.
Starting point is 01:41:46 I do too. Still a good player. He's well-liked, good player. Tofftoch. Toffey. Tuffy. Like that. McIntosh.
Starting point is 01:41:55 Toffee. Yeah. It's caramel mulley. Give yourself a minute to think about toffee. Let me think about that. I have a toffee. Is that the same as caramel's like caramel? Let's not.
Starting point is 01:42:08 Did you get any tofu on me? Street and Banff. You're talking about going out there. I guess tons of toffee. I was I said, we got to get some fudge. Yeah. And my wife, she was like, I have too much fudge. I had fudge. I have too much fudge. The fuck's at me. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:42:24 Geez, I'm sharp. Because usually it's like a, yeah, I was a harsh F, but that's quite a statement for someone to make too much fudge. Yeah. No. The hell you ate all this fudge. Had some delicious rum drinks and nice little egg log latte.
Starting point is 01:42:39 of business going up and down the old Banff Lane there. What's the Christmas market? Santa was there. About to get busy for that fat bastards. Boy, it was beautiful out there. It is. It's a Christmas movie out there.
Starting point is 01:42:55 You've got me so wound up I might go. I don't know why you wouldn't. Because I got this great job that I love to come into work at. That's why. And you know what? I could probably get you 15% off. Really? You know a old guy. For me? for you.
Starting point is 01:43:11 I mean, it's kind of for everybody. You got your cord too. You could probably just go remote. Kind of let the cat out of the bag there with the old barn burner code with the Buffalo Mountain Launch. That's beautiful up there. Thoughts in this game this evening?
Starting point is 01:43:29 I don't know what to expect from San Jose because I think they're a team that's ascending and they looked so bad against the flames. What was it, three, four weeks ago? They were awful. Two nothing. I don't think they've looked that bad all years. No.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I think that's their worst game. So it's like, okay, they're going to be better than that. You're sounding worse. They're hard to figure. They had a seven-game point streak in early November. It was like, the sharks, they've arrived. Look at Celebrini. He's going off.
Starting point is 01:43:56 Since then, 8-and-8. Win 2, lose 1. Win 1, lose 2. It's just kind of been that sort of a thing for the better part of this month. But Celebrini is still putting up points, 47 points in 33 games, third in league scoring. He plays 20, over 20 a night as a 20 year old.
Starting point is 01:44:17 19. I think the flames win. I think Wolf is home. Back at California. He wants to put on a show. I think the flames win. It is his hometown. Wolf. In Cali. Do you want to take a minute to think about it?
Starting point is 01:44:34 I did. Well, you two are gabbing about it. He's got a really fast process. Yeah, I got a new AI. A.I. A.C. computer up there. It's like my kid. you should see him do Lego. I'm like, okay, is that, but is that, where is there one?
Starting point is 01:44:49 Okay, yeah, fair off. And then he starts being like, no, so dad, like, does that see, like this one goes here? And then that one is there? Like, are you sure you got that right? Yeah, well, see, it's the brown one within this one has the thing on it. It's a, oh, yeah, okay. Okay, dad. Sorry, son, just trying to slow down and enjoy the experience.
Starting point is 01:45:11 send some time with you, kid. You know, have a drink. Have a drink. Let's do, uh, somebody. Gosh, these shows are getting long. Yeah, you're dragging there. Well, no, you get all upset. You got an old ranty.
Starting point is 01:45:29 Yeah. What did I rant about? You're kind of ranty. You're kind of ranty. It's a big question. Yeah. I don't have, what, Jack, you got any fudge at your house? No.
Starting point is 01:45:44 If you seen any fudge? I was very shocked, too. Because usually that's too much fudge. Fudge, judge. This is not putting. Okay, sorry, we had the thing there. There's Patrick. $10.
Starting point is 01:46:01 Feles. Teets. Love the show, fellas. Haven't pawned any Priuses lately, but if you need a doorman for the drinky show, I think I'm the only one to fireman carry Rett out. Happy holidays. I think we'll probably have a fireman on site, but I love the...
Starting point is 01:46:17 What do you talk? I think there's some history to. What are referring to? Who is this person? Was I hit in the head? Like, Kemper? Maybe. Probably harder.
Starting point is 01:46:29 Yeah. And everyone looked at and said you were faking. No, he's tough for the Kemper. Yeah. Well, that's what he was saying Kemper was faking. I'm not saying he's faking. I'm saying they're soft these guys nowadays. Crams aren't as hard as they used to be.
Starting point is 01:46:41 And he's sort of bump in the whole way. Yeah, it could be. All right, Patrick. We'll be in touch. Paul works. I don't write a good door, man. Morning, fellas. Wirtsey.
Starting point is 01:46:52 I was in the hat watching Pickford on the weekend. He scored twice. Just curious why a defenseman leading his league and goals wouldn't be on Team Canada. Well, it's a shitty league. Oh, wait. Is that? Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:47:06 They planned it up. So that's the CHO. Yeah. So he could be considered for Team Canada? I like to hold my criticism off until I know how the team does. And then if they lose. Yeah, I'd like to go in hindsight. So we can really kind of pile on.
Starting point is 01:47:17 And then if they win, I say zero. And I will say that there's a lot of kids. A lot of deep in there. Yeah. That Vera Hoff kid looks like he's going to be all right. A couple of any chillers. Is that Harrison Brickie's going to be there, right, Jacko? I would say this.
Starting point is 01:47:29 There has to be some sort of finagling, though, by the agents. Right? Oh, sure. I'm sure they're trying. How much that affects Team Canada? I have no idea. Last year it probably looked like affected a lot or they were idiots because they took a horrible team. There would be enough affecting.
Starting point is 01:47:43 Because if you are, this guy is. leading the league and goals. Yeah. He's a defense. He's 19. He can play. I was like back of the day, remember Rob Brown? He had like 100 points in nine games and couldn't make team Canada. Some pretty famous omissions over the years. See it?
Starting point is 01:48:01 To Brinket never went. Clark will. Clark will. I'm not sure about that one. We'll look into it, Paul. I'm with you, Paul. I'm a bit biased, but I'm with you. Yeah, Pickford's.
Starting point is 01:48:16 Captain. Leader. Good. J.H. Med. Jemad. Oh, God. Phelis! Vacation update.
Starting point is 01:48:26 Finally finished all 12 hours of the Thanksgiving hangout. What a show. We'll be watching on Friday for the Drinky Show. B.C.E. Indeed. That show kept getting better and better. I'll tell you that. The 12 hour live stream. You never thought it was going to get pulled out of the fire.
Starting point is 01:48:42 No, it was off. It was off. It was off. And then you just got up and shut it off. Yes. Midnight. Because no one was going to. Jack was like in the fetal position.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Jack was collecting. He's dying. And listen, if people just keep pouring you guys drink, specifically old sickie pants, we'll just, we could still be doing it if I didn't shut it off. I feel like,
Starting point is 01:49:05 it was 12 hours of the bun. That was appropriate. I'm not going to jump ahead, but I feel like there is probably a monthly event that we could do something. So we have Thanksgiving. And then we have Christmas. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:49:19 And in January, March Madness. Yeah. And in February, the Olympics. Super Bowl. Or Super Bowl. In March. The Olympics again. Playoffs.
Starting point is 01:49:30 Yeah. No. Baseball starts in April. Spring training. Yeah. What about August? I know that? That's the month before the season states.
Starting point is 01:49:44 Prediction. Friday show will not go 12 hours. Please, Lord. Jack, if you bring your riff-ruff buddies, I think we could do it. And there's no one downstairs to kick us up. Unless everyone just falls asleep and doesn't turn the stream off.
Starting point is 01:50:03 And there's about three and a half hours at the end of just watching guys laying on the floor. Let's make sure that it's... Might hit 12 hours. Mike's are down. Yeah, Jack. Thanks for the $10. Nice little donation.
Starting point is 01:50:17 Quality control. Appreciate that. Big Bear's hockey. 279. Boni M. Christmas album is non-negotiable for BCE. Agree. Do we get in trouble or kicked off if we have music while we're live? There's a chance.
Starting point is 01:50:37 And you know what? We can AI the music nowadays. We can download that whatever it is and say, make Christmas music and continually play for 12 hours. Yeah, you can do that. We're techie. We're not techie. We got that boss guy's here.
Starting point is 01:50:55 We're luddites. He can do it. But I'm with you. Boni M was big when I was a kid. Remains big today. What genre would you classify them as? I understand it's a Christmas album. Boni M.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Discoe almost. Where are they from? Is it like an island? I feel European to me, but I have no idea. I've never heard of Boni M. What? Come on, right? Germany.
Starting point is 01:51:24 The Germans. The Germans, yeah. Raspitin. Yeah, they did Rara Rasputine. Ooh. They're Rah Raspicson? Remember Eric Rasmussen? He was a good world junior player.
Starting point is 01:51:39 Because you saw the drunk carolers. The drunk carolers were doing Boney M. Lara Raspetson. No. Mary's boy child. Jesus Christ. J.C. was born on Christmas Day.
Starting point is 01:51:54 And man, we'll live forever more. Because of Christmas Day. Did they rhyme Christmas Day with Christmas Day now that I think about it? Great to make it look easy. Shepardt's watched their foxed Bionite. Came out in 1981.
Starting point is 01:52:11 Blackfoot 27. Cadree Sharon Povich and Anderson should be the ones traded. I'm kind of with Blackfoot here. I just don't know that you don't have to give up assets with Sharon Govich or Sharon Povich. Mori Povich? It's his son. It's not a positive value contract right now.
Starting point is 01:52:32 You're not moving him. He's got to score. Very difficult. 10 more. If he gets caught, maybe you can't. Sure. Right now, no. I don't even care if you trade him because if he's scoring for you, that's the kind of guy you signed. Kind of agree with that. And it's not old exactly. I would like them to open some winger slots. but there's lots of other wingers you can trade too
Starting point is 01:52:50 that aren't negative value assets. At Blackfoot 2.7, trade all their asses. Yeah, the list of untouchables is quite short. Your goalie? They're still singing? I think, Ryan, you'd enjoy it. Boni, M. I like, I don't mind Boniom.
Starting point is 01:53:11 Let's get the little beat to it. I can confirm. Beam me up. Mary's boy child, Jesus Christ was born on Christmas Day and man will live forever more because of Christmas Day. Having a hard time rhyme
Starting point is 01:53:28 and Christmas Day with anything, guys. Hey? Way. Double down on it. Well, listen, don't fucking tell anybody. Just do it quick. Just say Christmas Day again. Like, it obviously rhymes
Starting point is 01:53:41 because it's the same two words. Yeah, day rhymes the day confirmed. What? But we're going to have to do it one, two, three, like four. five times through this whole song. No one's going to catch on? They'll never know.
Starting point is 01:53:53 What percentage of these artists that make Christmas albums are completely mailing it in? Like, I think it's high 90s. I don't even know if it's just Christmas. We heard a song today. Beam me up, beam me up, beam me up. And then... Beam me down, beam me down, beam me down.
Starting point is 01:54:06 I'm not saying there's not lots of bad music out there. What I'm saying is that... Oh, artists that have no business with, you know, like Green Day singing Christmas. That's what I mean. So how mailed in is it? Pretty mailed in. It's meant.
Starting point is 01:54:18 Like, there's some class. and there's some, wow, that's from someone's heart, but there's a lot of like, oh yeah, wheezer Christmas song. I'm sure they're pumped about this one. I haven't heard overly much of Mariah this Christmas. It hasn't. Yeah, you know what? I could probably hear it and not know it.
Starting point is 01:54:37 It's just so deeply ingrained now. It could just be, I could hear it in probably July and not miss a bead. It's got a mental block there. Any more, Jack? You never did. Oh, that's right. Team Eats, there he is. This Christmas, I shall try to piss off Gordon Ramsey by making a turkey wellington. Stuffing wrapped in turkey thigh with cranberry and herb duck shell.
Starting point is 01:55:02 How do you say that? Garlic mash, I don't know. Herb dishel. What do you boys think? Well, the Wellington part, because you're putting the paste, like that's kind of the pastry thing over top, right? I've never had a turkey wellington. What do I think? I think I want to come over and eat that, is what I think.
Starting point is 01:55:25 Well, how do you feel about the cranberries? I think we talked about this. Listen, I'm not for cranberries, but I'm certainly not against cranberries. It's a little tartness and it's good and whatever. I trust the chef on this one. I'm saying if it's on the table, Christmas Day and your house, are you putting cranberry sauce on your plate? Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:49 No. I'm more likely to put it on a sandwich. check. Oh, yeah, sandwich is good. No, no cranberry sauce. Okay.
Starting point is 01:55:57 That would be my only thing. I didn't like pickles in my burger. Because if you're going to... Didn't like pickles in your burger out before now. That's Dave Dickinson weird. If you're doing a... What are you doing with your hands?
Starting point is 01:56:07 I'm showing you. If you're doing one of these, like your turkey... I don't think you should do that. If you're doing a turkey Wellington and you're taking turkey and your thigh meat and stuffing and you're doing this with it,
Starting point is 01:56:19 cranberry in there, you're leaving no options. So if people are going to have some, The cranberry, it's literally baked in. Yeah, but if I'd leave it to the side. Well, that's ginsy, though. If you were at Iron Chef and you had to make a dish and you were trying to impress the evaluators or whatever, the judges,
Starting point is 01:56:39 sometimes you've got to go all in. I don't know the motivation. I don't know what. This guy's not just slopping some mashed and great. Like, he's, this is a Wellington. So it kind of is an all-inclusive. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:56:57 I feel like it. Like Wellington isn't the whole meal. It's one of many things, right? Is that fair to say? But it's the main dish and he's putting stuffing. I don't know if it's like, there's like six things. Can we see it again? There's that.
Starting point is 01:57:09 No, like if you have a beef, Wellington, it's like a beef, like it's a beef loin that is wrapped with the pastry. Got to find a picture. Stuffing. So he's using. So it's the turkey stuffing with the thighs. So meat stuffing. And then he's putting cranberry in there. I'm okay.
Starting point is 01:57:25 I'm with. I don't know, but the chef has to decide. I trust the chef here. I wouldn't make it that way. I wouldn't make it that way. But I trust the chef. Team meats is delivered. Oh, God, that looks good.
Starting point is 01:57:39 That looks pretty good. That's got cranberry in it. Wow. It's in the road. Yeah, but you don't eat meatloaf. That's a red flag for red. I don't know if you'd notice. Yeah, I know it is.
Starting point is 01:57:52 It's a bad guy. It just feels like certainly something as polarizing as cranberry sauce should be a side accoutrema. Good word. I don't know if it works, but Spanish? It's out there. Yes. I'm with tea meats.
Starting point is 01:58:07 I'm going cranberry right in there. Do it. I'm in team eats. I went to buy beef tenderloin for beef Wellington. 400 bucks for one full length beef tenderloin doing brisket instead. Somebody is saying. 400. Well, what do you want?
Starting point is 01:58:26 That ain't changing. I'll tell you that. AI's not making meat. Better go talk to Uncle Daryl, see if he can do some. That's why Dino's got a shirt on. He's going to visit Daryl. Is that it? That's what you said, pre-show.
Starting point is 01:58:41 Well, that's all. All right. How was the show today? Long. Yeah, it was very long. Pender's got the low tub. Pender. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:51 Got very flamesy for a bit. Yeah. Sorry about that. No, we have to do that. Oh, yeah, it was going to remind. The chat wanted us to talk about flames. They wanted it. That was a big fat guy with the Karen.
Starting point is 01:59:02 I could never decide if they want us to talk about the flames. So like in a, well, I really like how. That's the thing. I don't know if they necessarily like our take, our negativity towards. Like we never mentioned a player that they're playing well. And I like that Bruce Davis is fitting in. That's a good story. See, here's the thing.
Starting point is 01:59:21 Wolf, you said Wolf's playing well? I try, but it's hard sometimes. Yeah, we know. It feels kind of fake. Like even yesterday, like sincerely, Frost and Farabee. That's a nice little turnaround. It's like, oh, but then you can hear everybody else.
Starting point is 01:59:38 Like McKinnon has 100 points in nine games. Oh, so how many, well, they have eight goals in 33 games. Oh, well, Rocket Richard stuff here, right? Like I hear. It's a lot of middle of the roster players, do you know? They're sure are, Ryan. Yeah, and that's, they're not bad players. They're middle of the roster players.
Starting point is 01:59:59 They are NHLers. There are no superstars. I saw something with I don't even know if it was Rose Hill and those guys but it's oh you know what I think it was noodles we can talk about it tomorrow I guess
Starting point is 02:00:11 dudes they're unhappy it's old Austin Matthews he's got to get his poop and a group out there they're not happy with him it's like Christ you'd kill to have a guy
Starting point is 02:00:23 like Austin Matthews here well they weren't happy with Martin you got to get rid of that guy can't win with that guy oh 50 goal score yeah let's do you think he'd come here chip away at his I'd go
Starting point is 02:00:32 I'm a pick on him. How many years left on his deal? It's a short one he signed. Yeah. Maybe two. It feels like he's not coming here. No, God, no. Anyway.
Starting point is 02:00:45 He'll go back to Arizona for that expansion team. Noodles tomorrow. God, that's good. What do we want to talk about with him? Who cares? We wanted his Christmas movie list. Is that what it was? You were going to do Christmas albums.
Starting point is 02:00:55 You never did. Liar. Mr. Lendergard. Didn't I do a top five the other day? Well, you said, and then you put Kenny and Dolly's album as one of the songs. He said just that albums, but you were going to do albums tomorrow. Well, that was Saturday.
Starting point is 02:01:08 That was Friday. You did that then on Monday. You did do it Saturday. We just didn't do a show. Yeah. Boni M. You talk about the Sabres and NFL more than the flames. He's probably right.
Starting point is 02:01:21 Not all days. We talk a lot of Sabres. They just fired the GM yesterday. What are we talking about? In general, though we do. We do. We've argued about them because they're in town last week, fire their GM this week.
Starting point is 02:01:34 Similarly, the Columbus Blue Jackets are a team that has not had a lot of success, play off the whole thing. We don't really talk about that. If they're in Calgary last week and fired the GM this week, we would. Sorry, bud. Red played. Red played for the team.
Starting point is 02:01:49 I don't feel bad about it. If you don't like it, sorry. Yeah. Yeah, is this the All Request Nooner or we just do shows? Like, I hated the All Request, Nooner. Should have broke down the care on. If you start calling in at 1120, it's like, it's called the Nooner. Oh, I just thought I jumped the queue.
Starting point is 02:02:08 Can I get steamboat Annie? And don't read those cheap pricks. I know. If you want to chirp. Help the kids. Getting in for free. Yeah. What do you got going today?
Starting point is 02:02:21 What's your day? Let's map out the rest of your day before we go. How about not? No one needs to know where I'm going. Well, I won't be able to spend money buying shit. I want to up your spirits. What are you doing for dinner tonight? I'm going to eat.
Starting point is 02:02:34 I got some beautiful bontan flays out. I want to spot the fleas. Yeah. I've got in-laws at my house. I'll avoid it like the plague. God damn it. They're already here? Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:52 Jeez. Does Christmas come on the 17th? Or in the U.S.? Was Christmas last night when they arrived? The joy was being spread. It could be a lot of boozeing. Because of Christmas Day. Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 02:03:09 I got to get some gifts. Yeah. Get gifting. What about tomorrow night? What do you got planned? I got two hockey games And then I got a There's a dinner, but somebody booked it really late downtown
Starting point is 02:03:26 How late? I thought we were going to chairmen's. Did you call and ask? That's not my dinner. We're getting ready for Friday. You know what? I'm in, Jack. If I text that guy something yesterday,
Starting point is 02:03:43 if he comes through with that, I'll go to the dinner. How's that? I like it. Huh? He said done. Oh, we're winning. Congrats, Jack. I'm going to have to start paying out my debts.
Starting point is 02:03:54 With all that fat cash that Rick got you in that race. Love it. Did I ask you about the show and how it was? Yes, you did. And you lied. Yeah, I always do. Yeah. Pay your debts.
Starting point is 02:04:07 It's an interesting time. Christmas is here. What's Pinder going to be like tomorrow? Better. Like you got into my nap time. I got a little window here. I'll be good tomorrow. What do you have?
Starting point is 02:04:19 What are we cutting in? Old Man Hockey 3. Get a good sweat. Sleep hard tonight. Let's go. You can go in a sauna to get a good sweat. I'm going to do that too, probably. Is there any thought of skipping the hockey and just getting a good sleep right now?
Starting point is 02:04:35 Potentially, but RASUP and the numbers are late. So I don't want to script again. Are you doing beers at the hockey? No, no beer's allowed there. All right. What a terrible league. It's definitely not. league. It's a 3 o'clock skate.
Starting point is 02:04:48 All right. Well, tomorrow we'll have our tremendous reaction to tonight's Flames and Sharks game. Jamie McClendon will join us. Another day. A big one in the B.C. tomorrow in the B.C.E. Big one. Big one tomorrow in the B.C. I can promise you that.
Starting point is 02:05:06 You piqued my interest. I'm going for an egg milk glut. Good for you. Right now? That could be on the BC. That's how you shop right there. There you go. Get some bamboo into that shelf. Yeah. Ew.
Starting point is 02:05:19 See you, buddies.

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