Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Cory Sarich (FULL INTERVIEW PART 2) | FN Barn Burner - July 25th, 2024

Episode Date: July 25, 2024

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So you come back, Calgary's not gotten any less bonkers. The crowd is as ravenous as they had. It was a Saturday night. It's hockey night in Canada. The cup is in the building. Everyone's ready. I got, I got, like, I got friends and family in town, obviously Western Canadian. And like, they had these huge gold gold bolts fingers.

Like, you know, the hands. We're number one, yeah. Or whatever it is. And they had them like folded up and stuffed inside their shirts on the sea train just not to get the crap. out of them. There was there was a lot of yeah crazy animosity in the city at the time my wife and I had decided that we're going to move to Calgary we had already made a decision like yeah before we before we even got to the playoffs like it was it was earlier on in the season we're going to move out of Saskatoon her sisters in Calgary her parents have retired to Colonna my parents are in

sat it's just it makes sense and our training group in Saskatoon had kind of dwindled so although there's a whole bunch of bodies in Calgary, it'll be good for me. Yeah. So our house is in the framing stage out in Tuscany, just picked one, picked the model. They're going to build it for us. I'm with my parents in their car on a day off in Calgary, going to drive out there and check it out. I'm driving around and everyone's giving me the finger. Like, you're honking at us and all the flames flags are flying. And I'm like, oh my God, how do they know I'm in here? Like, I know you can see me through the car window, but geez, these fans are crazy. Yeah. This is nuts. Pull up to the, pull up to the

where they're building our place, get out. And I just happen to walk around the rear of my dad's car. He's got just one of those little Tampa Bay Lightning license plate surrounds. The frame, yeah. I figured it out. Yeah. But it was ruthless. Like this place was nuts. So yeah, the cup is in the house, Richards again, two power play goals in the second period, Chris Clark and Nilsson, tie it, nothing in the third, nothing in the first overtime. And then this happens 33 seconds into the second overtime. Check out old Jason Colomar on this play. Got away with a large interference coming up right about there. Little trip? Just a little I think he might have extended his leg just a little bit.

So you're not on the ice. We'll see you come into frame right there. Do you remember anything about that? Because I would think it's 33 seconds. You're still kind of, okay, where's my get water? Am I sitting down or my skates? I've got my gloves. I was probably still tying my skates.

I was a chronic, chronic lace tire. So I probably was bent over still tying my skates. But I was like, oh, my God, it's over. Because we were preparing for like a long one. Yeah. I think everyone was to be honest. Yeah.

And yeah, it was. What's, do you remember anything in the room? Or is it just you're exhausted? It's you're just in self preservation mode. No, we were excited. Like the boys were. Well, before, before the goal goes in. I mean, before that.

Oh, before the game goes in. Oh, yeah. You're. Or before the overtime, the second overtime. Your, uh, power gels were really popular back then. Bananas, you know, whatever they talk about getting the potassium in you so you don't cramp up when you get late in the because at the start of the game yeah if we lose tonight we're out if we give up a goal we're out

it is done it was intense like that feeling of those overtimes or the first overtime and then the end of the third period in game seven those i don't know which one was more intense yeah like it's this was probably more intense than because we had a one goal cushion And I know I'm skipping ahead, but I'm just trying to compare like my feelings out in the ice. All yet my shifts were shorter in game seven near the end because I just didn't want to screw anything up. Whereas this, I actually still like played within myself. I didn't have the nerves that were overwhelming me. I think it was maybe still more determination like these guys aren't scoring right. Like so it felt more natural. I had like an out of body experience in the last

10 minutes of game seven like i don't remember hardly a damn thing because i was just like yeah i don't know what planet i was on but it was super weird for me just as a fan or whatever you you could imagine what you guys were feeling coming back to calgary with your backs against the wall you could also appreciate what the flames had to have felt like the cup was in the building and you lost in double over time and now you need to fly all the way back there and all bets are off And you don't get two days to do it. That's like what orders brought that up. It's like the cushy.

Yeah. Yeah. Kids today. Right. The cushy. Yeah. League that they all get to play in now. Yeah. Game six, Regear 33 minutes, Leopold 33 minutes.

Again, La 30. Warren, 31 minutes. You forgot about how much Jordan Leopold played. Yeah. He was one of their offensive sparks from the back end. Yeah. They just, there was so little left. as we look back now they were so beaten and they'd put on so many miles and so many minutes and all of that

and you got to look back at the brand of hockey that was being played like it was ugly yeah it was scrap for every inch interference hooking holding like those aren't easy minutes no like it is well i say you look back at some of that video and warner because his face is just pale and gaunt and but the beards their their faces are hanging off off of them they're just and how many seven game series for them the one well they did Vancouver and Detroit and San Jose were quicker but it was still not easy no yeah no so game seven another it's a tight game it's a bad call on Nolan Pratt that leads to the flames making it two to one and torts so I just because I watched it last night not happy

but as you said it's two to one I remember that I remember that goal too. I was just off to the right of the net and I saw Connie shoot it from the point. And it was like a seeing eye into the top corner. I'm like, oh, no. Like that's when I started to feel panicking. You're home. We're going to, we can steer this home.

Yeah. Now it's one goal and there's 10 minutes or whatever it was left. A white knuckle ride for sure. I remember there was a shot coming from the slot. It was going to be a pretty good chance. and I had to get down and get in front of it and it hit me in the arm and split me wide open. I remember Leopold's chance from the third period that Habie Boulin had to come across on. But other than that, she's pretty much a blur.

I bet. Yeah, I bet it is. I know that my shift length was about 21 seconds average. I was like, hey, I changed for the last two years, I changed behind Kuby and Boiler, the other two right-handed defensemen. And they like to change when the play is going back to our end. end. I'm being a little bit facetious, but there is literally a few times in my tenure with them where I would be like, they'd come to the bench and they want me to hop over just as a goal is

being scored and I'd just sit there. Yeah. Let's wait till late. No, you, no, keep the door closed. Don't let him. Let's make sure they get his number. Yeah. Before I hop out there. So I just, I just remember thinking, I'm like, hey, you've rode your two big horses this far in the race. I'm like, let's, Let's get them out there. Yeah. Let's get, let's let these guys get this thing done. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it was obviously different memories in, in Calgary for it, but Fedotenko wouldn't have picked him with how good Richards and everybody had been.

This shift from La Calvia, you talk about the shift from, from again, earlier in the series, on the tape, it's in. And, uh, yeah, feds was the product of a little bit of hard work there. Yeah, a little bit. a little bit and it hits zeros and the celebrations on is this a blur or do you finally once your heart can come down a little bit your heart rate can you then have some some memories or what you're thinking at that moment the on ice was pretty cool I do remember a lot of that and like having family in the building so they they're on this I almost missed the guy if you I'm not even

in there yet I was going to say where are you in here uh Dave ander Chuck and I come super late if you're staring at the screen like we'll end up down on the left side. all right but i was the last guy in there there's one set of photos out there where i'm not and one set of photos where i am so i was just kind of trying to soak it all in well i like that one there too it's the torts is right there usually the coach is kind of in the back off to the side players nope torts is right down he's on one knee he's hugging the cup he's right in there he was part of that he was part of that identity of that team though yeah and you know you watch it on tv as a kid and then all of a sudden you're you're kind of in that moment it was it was surreal right

like being able to skate around on the ice and hoist the cup over your head it was like yeah one of the coolest moments in my life and yeah it's it's too bad that at age 25 you just think like oh this will probably happen again yeah there's a few things that i wish i would have absorbed or done differently. Like what? My, my biggest regret is that night, we all ended up at Dave's house, Dave Adderchuk. And it was like 6.30 in the morning. And I was just like, drunken dead. Yeah. Like I was, I had celebrated, we celebrated hard that night. And just when I decided my, I had called my old man to come pick me up. I'm like, I got to get like a couple hours asleep. The boys all hopped in the pool with the cup and I wasn't there. And I'm like, damn,

like just should have sucked it up for like another 30 minutes or. Yeah. Yeah. Little things like that like when I had when I was fortunate enough to bring the cup back to Saskatchewan and celebrate, like maybe spread myself a little thin just trying to kind of like do some charity work and let or let people get a piece of it and yeah just like well the cup doesn't get to bladworth very often or davidson right so um but yeah yeah i mean but what do you do there because i've heard other guys talk about it if i don't bring the cup to these people they're never going to see it they're never going to appreciate it these kids in these small towns they may never get to an nchel game let alone be able to have their picture with the stanley cup yeah you just you want to share it and that's

what that's what small town Saskatchewan is right it's community it's just you grow up and you know everybody yeah so how can you how can you not share that with people did you have other guys that any of the other teammates come out for your day uh no because no one everyone's too far away yeah so that summer that summer was a blur right you finish in early june um the only kind of sad thing was and again is just that the lockout was looming so you're celebrating and then you're trying to get yourself prepped for the next season but you know that down and down deep that it's not going to happen i thought we might at least get a half season to try to keep things together and and try it again but no no such luck but yeah that was kind of the only damper on on that summer

because other than that it was a ton of fun yeah you would think for a while it'd be okay thank god we're not going to camp well there was there was that feeling too like when i was here renting ice by myself trying to bagscape myself on the oval like august 31st yeah and i know that i'm nowhere near in the shape that i should be there's a little part of me that was feeling like oh maybe this isn't such a bad thing yeah and it's because it's funny for and from there you go from the highest high then you miss there's a year off and then you probably just assume we were the defending cup champs we're going to come back and keep this thing rolling but it was it was kind of gone you made the playoffs each of the next two years but you're done in round one a lot of the personnel some of it's

changed but some of the guys are still still there lost our goalie yeah lost the mojo lost it pretty quick yeah we we did our best to try to recreate what happened that season but we just honestly it it had a completely different feel like it just felt like we were chasing it the whole time like we were still a pretty competitive team but you got to remember they took out the red line there there was yeah i tracked stats like on average in a year there's usually like anywhere from 40 to 60 penalty shots that was in a high year some years there's there was a hundred and 20 or 130 penalty shots that year from just like you put your stick anywhere near a person's glove yeah like they've found a nice healthy balance in the n hl now like that that whole first year was

riddled with penalty kill like there was no flow no momentum you're just trying to get your legs back underneath you as a player and get up to speed and then our whole strategy as a team was prefaced around around smothering people in the neutral zone because there was a red line yeah i remember torterella pulling his hair out like literally losing his mind yeah and viny was i'm i keep blaming viny but a lot of our forward forwards were back to their old tricks like can't you see me down there at the blind just get it up to me yeah i'm right there while i got my face paced it up against the glass down here i'm dry in my damnedest but like it the adjustment period was like it was it was incredible guys careers came to an end guys that

They just couldn't move. They were no longer nearly as valuable. It made me super nervous. Like not a great skater. And I'm like, now I can't hook. I can't hold. Can't can't open. Like, like seriously, like that stuff's out of the game. Like how am I going to survive? It's the way you've played your entire life. I ran around like an idiot because I could hook my way back into a play. Or I could at least catch a piece or be dirty and like slow a guy down. and get back in the play but you miss the guy now and if you touch somebody you're in the box so how am i going to do this yeah it was like kind of like i consciously like i've never been a heavy guy but i consciously like tried to lose five to 10 pounds because i thought it might make me faster yeah so i can keep up it's weird my my memory it felt like you won the cup lockout and then you were a flame but it wasn't that quickly there were two more years but then the contract's up in tampa how close were you to staying there what were i guess what were your options because you're now it's

the unrestricted free agent this is what all the players were looking forward to it does obviously end up being calgary but what's that off season of contract hunting like it was super weird so like i i like i remember playing trying to play golf around the july for deadline when free agency opens up and you hear rumblings and of course there was some tampering and people are contacting people before sure it was happening everywhere i'm sure everyone's trying to get a leg up and figure out who's going where and what and whose interest lies where but like july first came around and i i knew that two teams were extremely interested it was calgary in l.a i've already i already own a home in calgary i'm from the prairies in l a scares the tar out of me

I have road rage, so it's probably not a great place for me. Yeah. So I'm like, you know, you're just, you're weighing like, this is your whole life. But as far as Tampa was concerned, after the season ended that year and we lost out of the playoffs after the first round, I talked to Jay Feaster. And he was like, what do you think about staying here? I said, like, I thought I thought I was going to be a lifer in Tampa. Yeah. Is what I thought.

At that age, I'm like, I'm like, I'd love to like. So I thought we'd maybe talk about like a contract that makes sense for everybody, for the team for he's like, well, give you a call. Never called. It's all right. I thought for sure he would at least like, but they had got Paul Ranger and Shane O'Brien and they thought they were the next thing since sliced bread. Yeah. So I came to that came to July 1st and yeah. Anyways, out trying to play golf the day before I shot like a hundred and twenty-two-year. because my head was in the clouds there again it's not to interrupt there again kind of disappoint the Buffalo thing how it ends and and now this and it's at least Buffalo there was not some success okay they got a long way to go they're building you had success there you were a part of why they were successful yeah not be included this one hurt yeah yeah I was yeah that one that one pissed me off yeah I just like I was like okay I mean nothing to these guys like all

this history and again, yeah, I feel like I played the game the right way. Sure. And I thought like, there's still a place for me. Like even if they love these kids, I can be the guy that's there like grinding away right behind them. Yeah. Right. Like I have no, I understand that people offer what I like have stuffed offer that I can't. And that's what makes your team great, but you can't tell me that I can't be your like fourth or fifth guy. Yeah. So I was, yeah, I was I don't need to be the first or second. I don't have the, I don't have the talent level for that.

So, but no, it happened quick, signing Calgary. And yeah, I was a little pissed off at Tampa, but now you've got a whole new focus. You got a new contract. You got to live up to expectations.

You got to be like, what am I going to be? Am I going to, do they think I'm going to be a first? Yeah. De pairing guy. Yeah. With the amount of,

it's a five-year deal. It's 18 million. That's good money. It's a long-term commitment. They, like you said, they clearly want me. What do they think I am? What am I going to be? What can I be for them?

That summer, I had had a conversation with Rhett Warner. And then we find out in, is it, it's June that Mike Keenan's coming to Calgary. I remember the minute I heard it. Well, definitely not signing in Calgary then. That was the first words that came out of my mouth. like yeah guy would have to be crazy to try something like that i guess i'm nuts yeah so yeah but it was it was again it was l a it was calgary i wanted to win again calgary had an amazing goaltender had a really solid core who doesn't want to play with jerome mginla right like i really thought

calgary was heads and tails a better team at the time than l a yeah l a was not very good at all and like no goal tending. I don't think they had Jonathan Quick just yet. I know there was a huge turnaround in L.A. But like this is where I thought I could, I could win. I knew it was going to be a project coming into a room with a bunch of guys that I had just played against.

Yeah, two years had gone by, but it was, it's a Genla, it's Reger, it's Kepersoff, those guys are still there. I'm like, this is going to be hard to earn their trust. Yeah. Coming into this room, I'm going to have to like, try my damnedest to still just be myself, but kind of fit in. It was, yeah, it was, it was, it was not a, I think the easier decision would have

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did it live up to what you had feared did it end up being as bad as you may be it was it was everything and more yeah it was I was used to in John Torterella and most of my coaches in my career giving it to you straight and being very demanding of you but just like hey you're your horseshit last night get better yeah this these are your deficiencies do this with Mike it was just like mental warfare and I'd never ever like I always thought your coach is in a position of authority respect your coach like everyone else and some of the conversations I had to have with Mike Keene and I never dreamed I'd ever have like with a coach

so it got to like well it got to such a point that like I'm sitting there with my wife and I'm like well my stats line showing it i'm sucking and mentally i can't even like get myself ready for games because he's just so in my kitchen and so all over me like i'm trying to pretend like nothing's happening but it's pretty reflective in my play like i'm i'm not i'm not awesome out there and i just i kind of figured out that i think mike wanted some confrontation i think that's kind of what what drove him or maybe he's looking for a reaction on me so I went into the room and I just remember like tell him to go yeah tell him where to go yeah how to get there and I said to him I'm like here's here's what I'd like to try don't coach me leave me alone yeah

don't say a word to me don't coach me for like the next month see if I can figure it out and if I can't then you can just ride me the whole way in. You can just, but like just leave me the F alone. Yeah. Like, and I actually started to play pretty well after that. Yeah. That actually, I think I might be mixed. That might have been partway through the start of the second year,

as might have when I, I don't even know if I, I don't think I had figured it out in the first year. I think I rode the whole first year out. I think it was, I think it was in my second year where that, where I had that moment. And I remember I was playing with Gio. And we actually started to play really well together. And I like almost had for me a career. I almost had 20 points, which is like a big deal. But like it felt normal again. And we go into the playoffs against Chicago. I missed a game. But I had a pretty good playoff series even though they were a much better team than we were. And I, I honestly thought if he comes back, this isn't going to be that bad of a thing.

But I was hearing the rumblings. Yeah. That it's all I heard was Ginla or Keenan. Yeah. And I don't know if that's fair. I'm sure there's a lot of people that probably didn't get along with Mike. I mean, you're very easy to get along with. If you are at a breaking point with Mike Keenan, you can imagine how many other guys.

And we've talked them over the years that have gone and it's not a shot against Mike. Mike had a strategy. He had a, it was the way he did business. but it just didn't work anymore. But for me, like, yeah, it was like a season plus of not being on the same. And then finally, like, I think I had earned his respect or whatever had happened. And he played me a ton and things were good. So I was like, do I really want to go through that again?

Which, then I had Brent, who was next, Brent Sutter. Before we leave Keenan, how sour because you would, Brendan Morrison had the Iron Man streak. He misses a game. You're now, you're now the leagues. You haven't missed a game in seasons. It's 453 games by the time it's done. But it's not really injuries that keeps you out. It's it's Keenan. And I think that I don't know, it's got to be a badge of honor. I think some guys will downplay it or whatever and Phil Kessel played for a decade. But you play every night. how you're not an ego guy but you're a proud guy what was how how did that hit you not good yeah oh i was completely pissed off that he that he had scratched me that night just so in october we're like i'm trying to keep my streak lives so you my my wife's having our second daughter so you're like you she gets induced to to keep that going and you you change your schedule there And then I had taken a puck in the teeth in Dallas, lost a bunch of chicklets,

and played with a bubble on for like three or four games before the scratch, two or three games before. And nothing was wrong with my play then. I mean, coaches are trying to keep their jobs. Coaches are trying to provoke reactions. They try to motivate teams. So I don't know if it was like, let's send a message to the team. I don't know if it was something personal that he had against me.

but he had it was a pretty it was actually pretty he didn't really have a reason like when he called me into the office that morning in phoenix and like yeah and said you're not going like i think your play has really dropped off i was like yeah that's horseshit and he knew right it's and then you like you're out there you got no got no mouth i'm like completely beat up and you got your visor on here out there grinding for your team that didn't really count for much no So yeah, that was that didn't sit right with a lot of people, teammates included. But yeah, so he is done. He had to go.

Brent comes in. Daryl's the GM. Maybe this is going to be cohesive. They're brothers. Well, not all brothers get along super great. Not to say that they don't, but just because their brothers doesn't mean everything's going to be going to be smooth. And it, and it wasn't smooth. like Brent, very respected coach, but again, this, this feels like it would be a good fit for you,

but it wasn't really a good fit for you. No, and like, again, it was that, that first year was not good under Brent. It's like, what does a coach want and trying to feel it out? And what does the coach think of me and you're, I guess I should, I guess I should have a little more mental fortitude, right, being a, being a professional athlete. But but there is that bit when when people like fully believe in you and you know that like that that goes a long ways like when when you have a coach that trusts in you or as as I'm sure in in anybody's job you have a boss that really believes in you and is like. Sure. Your performance. Yeah. There's there's there's there's a connection right. And you just know when it's a little bit off. So it took me a while to figure out like what Brent wanted and and adjust. my play and adjust to like again a different coaching style and so I again my stats I

struggled underneath them I wouldn't say it was completely awful and all three years under Brent we were a very competitive team we just could never get over the hump like we we kind of always shot ourselves in the foot or else we sputtered in the end we were like the perennial 500 hockey team that just couldn't quite yeah dig out enough wins when it counted I think what it was too there is you're you're getting you're getting sad and it's guys like i had to look like derrick smith and joe piscula these are guys that are playing ahead of you well i get maybe you want to turn the page and get some youth injected but that's bad read i guess here here was my beef like first year okay i wasn't second year under brent

i had another really good season and so i'm going into the third season thinking okay now we're here we go right like i'm still only 32 33 so I don't think that's old but I'm like yeah this is going to be this is going to be awesome but then like here's t.J brodie here these names j. van dermeer was there the previous like i just felt like i was always they were always kind of trying out the next best thing they didn't like there wasn't a lot of continuity you didn't ever like you always felt like you were like marty st louie felt like i could be scratched at any moment And maybe that should motivate a guy, but maybe at that point in my career, I didn't handle it properly.

And I was probably a little bit pissed off underneath, probably too focused on it, honestly. Like I remember apologizing to Matt Staghan, at the end of my last, especially under Hartley at the very end, like, I just said I was not a lot of fun to be around. Because I probably did more bitching and complaining than I should have. like not to my teammates, not to the team as a whole, but to certain guys that I knew I could. So I'm like, thanks for listening because I probably wasn't a lot of fun to be around. So what happens there? Because your contract ends. So you had your two years with Kenan.

You had three years with Brent. And then you signed back again. Right? And didn't you ask, I think in that like, didn't you, you demanded a trade. Isn't that what the story is? you demanded a trade you had had enough you wanted to it's okay we are going long we're getting into it here oh but because I know there was a report if I remember correctly that Corey Sarich demands to be traded there it is right there they're very persistent

and it was a very I mean a very good source as I recall that had gone to the media So is this after my third year with Brent? This is in 2011. Yeah, this is in that last year. Appearing as an analyst on SportsNet 960, retired Flames rearguard. Retired Warner reported that Sarge had asked for a trade. I was a little, I caught a little by surprise,

Sarge said Saturday after the morning skate. People started texting me left and right. Usually I don't generate that much interest. And the story, so that was about two days later, I definitely did not demand to be traded. So even back then, Warner really on. top of things and and a great source but you would the story goes you would talk to feister just you're not happy how does you know i just walk us through that because then you you sign on again for

two years yeah i just well things because it had not like you say it had it had not gone it was not a rosy five-year stay and i honestly i don't even remember what much of our conversation would have been about like with between j and i yeah um Um, it was also kind of easy. Like again, yeah, now I'm 33 years old or whatever I am and getting long in the tooth. So. And you give a crap meters a little lower. Yeah, maybe I can play elsewhere.

Maybe a little bit, but I actually don't even know how I was probably convinced to two years is pretty pretty convincing at that point in your career rather than signing a one year. Yeah. I think I knew that I could still be like solid fifth six guy like just yeah roll me out there play defense do that stuff so I thought well if they like they're clearly high on tj brodie he's going to be the superstar around here yeah so I'm like well it's it's either pack up my small my know my family would have factored in for sure yeah pack up uh a young family and off we go. That didn't really interest me.

So I know that that played a part in kind of taking the easy way out. So then Sutter leaves and Bob Hartley comes in. This was not the recipe for Corey Sartch success. But they're again, much like Keenan, a long list of guys that had a hard time with Bob Hartley. Oh. And you're just in that category. Again, with Brent, I appreciate it. He'd give it, he'd give it to me straight. I wish he would have had a little more faith in me at times, but maybe I didn't give them reason to put that faith in me. Maybe my play was too inconsistent. Um, got to take some ownership, right? Yeah. But, uh, I, I thought Mike Keenan was tough mentally. I didn't have the run-ins with boss. that I did, but he, he kind of had me pigeonholed shortly in and was, was it the same kind of that mental warfare with Bob as it was with Canaan? It was.

And he is just like, he talked about how his dad worked in the factory and the way he was raised and all these morals that he has, like clearly stated that in front of the team. And I'm like, well, that's kind of where I come from. I'm like, this could be. Yeah. Like I relate hard go to work every day and put in a good day shift. And that's where I come from. And it was, I thought it was the polar opposite, which didn't sit well with me.

And I'm just like, I don't know, I just, I did not like the guy. So when the team performs well under him, is. that is that the old coach i'm gonna it's i'm gonna get the whole team against me so that they band together and play well because he wins the coach at the year and well that was that was that was that was that was later yeah yeah i would i would like if you took a poll yeah on on on that guy like well it's been the the the old story goes there's been at least a player who had his contract the thing for me is crazy around calgary like it's such a small town and you know so many people and i have a ton of great friends here and everyone coming up to me like seems like a great coach because

everybody sees him behind the camera and i'm like boy yeah not the perspective i have so the last year of the two-year extension do you do you ask out do they does feaster approach you because it's off to colorado i'm i'm on my way to in vermere to uh kind of pit in for the summer, which we did with our kids when they were little, go out there for a month or two. And I was just about to drive out of cell service and my phone rings. And it was Jay Feaster. And he's just like, hey, Corey, I got, and there's some rumblings,

I got a deal for you in Tangs to go to Colorado. and but I bet you'd have to get rid of your no move clause. Like you'd have to wave that for us. And he's like, I've talked to, I don't know if he had talked to Joe Sack or Patrick. He's like, they thought maybe you could, maybe you could give them a call first

and see what their plans are for you. Because I don't, right, not sure, but you could be part of this deal. So I, I called and I spoke with Patrick and he was like, hey, he's, Patrick Wa. Yeah.

He's like, you come into camp. and kind of giving everybody a fair shake because I'm brand new here and just come in and and play your game and do what you know what like whatever it's kind of like it's kind of like a fresh start yeah and for me and I I hashed it over with with my wife and family and I needed a change like mentally I just needed I was done like to beat down so and an opportunity to play again I'm like you know maybe I can go prove myself and extend my career so yeah so it was a pretty easy decision like yeah let's get out of here let's go and it turned out to be a really good decision how I was going to say that's you know ultimately it ends up being the last season for you but

Patrick wa it's Joe Sack this is a it's a unique environment to be in yeah and you had a good year for me I grew up brainwashed a Montreal Canadiens fan so I remember like eight years old laying there watching on a crappy little 13 channel television like Patrick Waugh rookie Stanley Cup finals 86 the those terrible pads he used to wear yeah and then you watch his career evolve so like I'm kind of like I'm starstruck Joe Sackick one of the greatest players of all time and these are like a couple guys you idolize growing up and like even that conversation I had to have with Patrick raw I was kind of like oh pinch yeah sure you know like this is this his personal phone number yeah so that was it was it was cool I went to

training camp I had a good training camp I kind of fit in well I meshed well I brought some leadership I brought a little bit of grit to their lineup which I think they were looking for and then I was thankful that I got a chance to play off to start and we went I think my my biggest thing with Patrick that year was like I wanted to play every game but he had had and he had told me leading up to the season like he's like I we'll see how it goes yeah but his plan was to like rotate a few guys through but we got off to like a 12 and one start that season and everything was rolling so then I just kind of rode that momentum and I didn't want to come out of the lineup it took a long time it was like 20 plus games before

before he finally was like, okay, what do you think about sitting? I'm like, no, no, thanks. Yeah. Nope, I'm good. I'll play. So, and then that season had some injuries and some up and downs and my back. Couldn't hack it. And it eventually, April 1st, it went on me, my disc ruptured and that was actually another

blessing in disguise. But that was a super cool season. Great guys down there. Nathan McKinnon's rookie season. and O'Reilly, Duchesne, Tyson, Barry, Eric Johnson, like, just a handful of, like, really talented guys. J.S. Shigarrenet, Varlamov,

Gabe Landis Cog is our captain. Yeah, and, like, I felt, felt like I played a pretty important, like, veteran role on that team. Yeah. Would those guys lean on you a little bit? Yeah, they asked lots of questions, and I shared bad stories, and, uh,

yeah, it was super cool. those guys didn't need a lot of direction like they were a pretty intent group reminded me a little bit of uh of my first two days in tampa but you just knew with what was looming in the salary cap that there's no way they're going to be able to keep all those guys under under one roof so but that was that was a pretty neat way to end my career i was had so much fun playing that year and and practicing and everything it was it was like yeah it was it was a good way for it to end. Yeah.

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Yeah. You finish your season in Colorado. It's back surgery, knee scope, you're rehabbing, looking for another contract. going to be a a uf a again so it's a summer of getting fit staying fit and trying to get get another job yeah but uh things go sideways in a hurry i'm never sure how comfortable you are talking about this and i know you've talked about it before very um but yeah it's uh the career life everything almost ends for you on a of what you think would be a a nice little bike ride. Yeah, I was just, I was behind on my training. Um, so I'm like, I can't skip any workouts. That's not happening. We were supposed to go out for a bike ride and at one spot in Invermere near the lake and due to some unforeseen events kind of had to,

it kind of got canceled. So I'm like, I'm going to go and just hop on my bike and go for a quick ride. And And was never really, I'd done a few bike rides, was never really keen about it because I thought, I still think people like riding on the road with traffic, I think it's a little bit nuts. That's just my personal opinion. Yeah. So I always rode the one little ride that I did a couple big hills,

11 kilometers that was, there was really no one on it. And of course the first car I saw that day ran over me. So it was a little, that was a little weird, that part of it. But so you're, you're on the, right side of the road, right? And there's a truck coming towards you to your left. And he just turns right. Just decides he's going to turn left and comes right in front of him. Yeah, it doesn't see me going to hit the truck. How doesn't he see you? Is there any way he cannot see you?

That's I mean, I'd actually, I'd actually gone back there at about the same time of day to see if like when you're driving up that hill, if the sun's in your eyes or all that stuff. And the gentleman was 85 years old so yeah yeah and there's lots of parts and stuff to it but uh so you you obviously everything flashes before your eyes you you fall off the bike you slam on the brakes you're sliding and you go right under the truck yeah goes right over top of you back tire over your chest or over your back and chest and that are you now you're pinned under the vehicle it it drags you for a stretch no so nasty so i i'm on a little downhill and he's an incline so i've picked up some pretty good speed now he's turning right he's turning left in front of me yeah

i think i'm going to drill the cab of the truck now i can see like and this is in split seconds. Now I'm like, oh, I'm going to hit the box. And like with me as high as I am on my bike, I'm like, I'm going to go down the road and I'm curtains. So I'm like, the hockey player in me is I'm going to break, get low, body check this truck, which I don't know how that's going to go either. But this is all happening in split second. And as I'm breaking and trying to stay down on my bike, I obviously fall off, assume slide underneath like Superman on my stomach and the right rear tire drives right over me and I come bouncing out the rear of the truck. Yeah.

And conscious through it all, I get up. I feel like I'm being choked, but I realize my helmet's in like about 15 pieces, completely shattered. And the chin strap's kind of like choking me. I'm just, I knew I've been crushed, like I can't really talk, but I stand up right away. Like it must have been adrenaline or whatever. I stand up and I'm like, and the guy, I remember I'm getting out of his truck. I'm just back there like just bleeding away. And I knew I've been crushed.

So I'm like, all right, we got to get this party started. I'm not like bleeding out internally on the road here. So I was like, hey man, he, he sees me. He has no clue what's going on. He's in complete shock. He gets a dirty old oil rag out of his truck, which I was going to put on my head. but I'm like, I can't do that. Later, it turns out, like I got a huge chunk missing out of the side of my head.

Luckily, there was some people in a Jeep behind, and they came over and, and I was good for about a couple minutes, and then I started to just get, like, completely overwhelmed. And I'm like, you got to put me down somewhere. But I had enough quick wits about me. I'm like, they wanted to lay me on the shoulder of the road, which was full of gravel. I'm like, no, don't put me there. Like, you'll never get that out of my.

Because you're bleeding. You've, your fingertips. Everywhere. Knees, you name. but I get like and my head was the worst like it looked someone like someone had put a a golf ball on my head and taken a wedge and yeah just sliced taking a nice little divot yeah but they were great I didn't realize it till later but I go in the in the jersey riding jersey of my and I pulled out my phone and gave it to them and said like here's my code call my wife and just let her know

Yeah. And I didn't think of it until like about a month later. Like the truck ran right over the middle of my back. Yeah. But it missed the phone. Yeah. That was like in the lower part. And I had tread marks on my back and the burns were the worst.

I had a huge burn from the muffler on my shoulder where I must have like. So I was a hot mess. So you have cracked bird, you have a broken back. Yeah. You have these burns, muffler burns and, but the road rash. They strap me to the, the ambulance comes. They strap me to the board. That was the longest 15, 20 minute ride of my life.

Air ambulance. The pain. This was, no, this is just the ambulance ride to the Invermere Hospital. I got there and they ran all the tests they could that at least I wasn't going to bleed out. So that was first and foremost for me. Like internally, I was intact, which was. Yeah. And then it was a helicopter ride to later to Calgary. They don't keep you long in hospital. No. Once you're ready to go, you're up and at them. And then it was probably a good full year to try to recover. I was back skating by December thinking I might play in a Spangler Cup or do something like that. But I was, yeah, I was a hot mess. So.

Yeah, but very thankful. I guess. Extremely thankful. Because there's layers to it. It's amazing. You stand up. You think here's the code to my phone. Phone my wife.

My helmet is choking me. I need to. The wherewithal that you had to be in that moment when clearly the guy driving the truck really wasn't there. Are you at all kind of amazed at how with it you were? for having just been run over well i honestly like like dying flash between my like flash yeah through my head as this was all happening like i'm like i'm like i'm curtains and then just the fact that i was like conscious and yeah i knew i'd been crushed like i had this crazy feeling internally but i was just like fuck uh yeah part of my language i'm still here yeah yeah

I'm like, okay. What are the people in the Jeep? What is their reaction? Because they were outstanding. Yeah. They just came up and kind of like tried to help the older gentleman like absorb what's going on. And then they tended to me and someone took off their shirt and wrapped it around my head and

like with some clean stuff and sat with me. And I really started to not do well a few minutes after all that happened. And the pain was settling in and sitting in. sitting in the ditch and waiting and then after they put me on the drugs i don't remember a darn thing yeah like got on some morphine or whatever started at the hospital so were you in and out of that because like you say i'm alive did you did you feel like i'm out of the woods i'm good or how at the hospital like after probably an hour and a half had passed and they'd run all the tests i was like okay yeah i'm just in really bad shape but i'm i'm here yeah so i was like

that was like a huge sense of relief where does your wife beat with you because she gets the phone call are you still at the site are you yeah I'm still at the site and her and my my oldest daughter came up and and yeah had to see me there so how she said it wasn't good yeah yeah the the daughter being there is that because you were thinking away you're kind of you're kind of your rental instincts like daddy's fine dad's okay like i i remember seeing her for a split second and then my wife's like like she can't be here so like yeah she wasn't around long but it had some lasting effects i think on on her as well sure so um yeah do you but have you do you bike now have you

biked since are you done with biking in my basement on the stationary yeah i hung it i hung it up i ride my ride my one with the big basket at the lake right uh up and down the street every now and there yeah it can't it has to and i know i you know doing the reading that if you would think sliding on your stomach would be the worst way you'd want to do it because then you wore your fingernails off just the skin is gone but if if you go under on your back you curtains. Yeah, they said if it like, I guess your, your lumbar and your strongest part of your, yeah, your body. And if, if they were, like, if they run over, he said if you were drove over the front, he's like, you're done. Yeah. You're like all your organs. And then if I didn't

have my helmet on, all you children out there. Yeah. Yeah. If I didn't have my helmet on, I'd be dead for sure. Did, uh, I read that the, uh, the police came by. with your bike and the stuff to see if you wanted to keep it yeah it was like i i did have um like a process through insurance to go through and that was a whole another another story um but at the end of it all they're like yeah you want the bike or the stuff i'm like no let's yeah i don't need a souvenir yeah it can't it has to change you in so many levels it do you still feel feel it today, I guess for a while. Everything, you're appreciative, everything is, man, it's, do you still feel it or is it? It's a really good reset. Yeah, it's something to definitely go back to.

Like, initially after it happens, you're pretty, there's a lot of thoughts and thinking and thoughts on life and it puts things into perspective. Yeah. Really makes you realize what's important. And then when you're having when you're having a tough day or you're you're acting like a moron and over such little things, you got to just like have a little reset check back in. Yeah. Be like, that's not that important. Yeah. So you know the one thing I try not to do is completely shelf it. Like take it for granted, right? Like you have to you have to keep a piece of that in you to keep you having the perspective that you need. So. Is there any, do you think if that doesn't happen, because you had the knee done and you had your back, the back surgery, do you think you play again if that doesn't happen? It would be 50-50, maybe even less odds than that. Like, again, I was behind on, so behind on my training. So getting ready for training camp was going to be, I would get there. I'm determined enough that I would have.

It's just with a few question marks, like those things looming, I maybe could have got like another, another year as maybe like, uh, some insurance for a team, like as a, as a extra defenseman. I was really hoping before my back went out on me in, in Denver, like I'd been having conversations about Patrick, I think, had expressed that he wanted me back. But then, you know, kind of coincidentally, I think I had a very similar. surgery to one that Joe Sackick had at the end of his career. Yeah. Didn't go real well for him. So him being the GM, it might have been tough to convince him. Yeah.

Well, it was tough to convince him after the back surgery. So. Yeah. Were you close? Was there, because I think there would be some, maybe some GMs or some teams or maybe a little sympathetic to what you've gone through. You've worked so hard to get yourself back into shape and get back. Yeah.

It was a pipe dream. Yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah, after that, it's, like and who would want to who would want to touch me are probably just more of a insurance risk than like bringing in have sign him to a contract and then he's a band-aid for the whole season just pay him or yeah it was that was that was that was it and you know what like who knows maybe maybe it's my scapegoat from from from having to realize that you're not good enough anymore physically anyways so

in a way maybe easier to swallow yeah because it's it's less out of your control there's less you could have done us in a sense I you're not a guy to be bitter and especially with that having been established 969 games so between a bike accident and back surgery and healthy scratches from three coaches along the way to be 31 away from a thousand is that Does that sting a little bit when really you you're a thousand games easy if all things are equal? No, none. That doesn't bother me.

It would have been super cool. Yeah. I like, nah. I blame that on the season and a half missed. Yeah. I was doing the math. This is like, well, there's 31 games that you probably could have played there along the way, even without with a lockout or whatever. There is.

But it, but it, but it's the way it goes, right? Like I was fortunate enough to play all those seasons in a row, like whatever, five or six seasons without missing a game like that. Who gets to do that very often? Yeah. And that's pretty crazy. So maybe my number was skewed from what it could have been the other direction. Yeah.

So I do, I do like the season and a half that a guy didn't get to play. That's kind of a bummer, right? Like, I'll never, or get paid on. Warner, that's his. it seems but not so much the experience or the games that he could have could have could have played it's the some some dough that he could I still and I again all my stories are recycled but I go back to it Dave Vanderchuk that year 0304 and we're sitting in the locker room and he I don't know what we were talking about

but he looked over me he's like Sarci it goes by so fast you you don't even know he's like you better enjoy it and I'm like yeah right old man what do you know and Yeah. Old guys know some stuff. Bingo. As it turns out. Um, so then you get into media, who would have given you your starting media? Like who would have been one of the first guys to put you on TV or radio? How would that have gotten going? Just wondering. You might have had a hand in it.

I'm the frigging media whisperer for all aging flames defensemen. Yeah. Who might have had a small hand in it? You've gotten very good at it, friends. I don't know about that. Like anything else, it's repetition. It's reps. It takes time from where, you know, where you first got into it.

Because we would, we'd bring you on the morning show and you'd hang out. And to watch you now, you're so much more comfortable and smooth and at ease. I just see that with you. And because it's not a, you're at the dome. There's fans. There's people around. You got a thing in your ear. You've got a microphone.

You got your notes. You're trying to take it all in. Fans don't appreciate what that is. It's not like you're sitting here, me and you right now in a quiet room. It's a lot. But you've gotten very, very comfortable at it. Thank you. And very good at it.

Yeah, no, it's, it's been a, it's been a challenge. It's always kind of like, I know it's not a very long segment, but it's thinking on your feet and try and not to trip over your tongue. And I appreciate, I appreciate yourself as well as like Ryan Leslie, uh, kind of, having me on in flames tv early when when he was part of that and just giving me an opportunity i always i was you know when you're an athlete the media i always just i had the utmost respect because it's not an easy job to do and you're some you're often most often dealing with players that don't want to give you the time of day or or have other things to do so it's not an easy job but i just always viewed the other side as you know just doing their jobs people that have to earn a living

be courteous treat them well and you know what like try to try to not be super cliche give them a little insight it's not easy to do no as an athlete it's a hard thing to do um but you're in a very good spot there because you have the experience and when when you draw back to something that's happen in your career it's not a well when I played a lot of times you're kind of taken you know taking a shot at yourself as kind of self-deprecating or whatever but it's it's you never get that well I had an experience or I played with this guy or whatever there's none of that ego that comes through you know my my the biggest thing I struggle with though in this job I could use a few more memories and my it's

just the way I don't know if I've had too many concussions I probably a good part of it. But I can't, I honestly can't remember. Like if someone starts me, I'm like, oh yeah, I was there. I was part of this. I was part of that. I go back and I look through like stat packs and try to like jog my memory on teams or players that I've played with because I know that it's in there somewhere. But some guys are so great at it, right, that make the transition that can or just even if you're doing little media events, if you're doing a little media events, events as an alumni. I know that people want to hear about hockey and that they want to hear about what you went through or they want to hear little nuances about players in the game and

stuff. And I do want to share. Yeah. Sometimes it's just a little hard to unlock. I need a, I need a little teaser every now and then. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll do a little memory lane to jog your memory as we go out. Now, I don't remember like you again, self-deprecating. You talked about maybe your lack of offense or you weren't big on getting points but I you had some offensive touch your bit a bit of a goal score we saw the one earlier Rochester going back door tap in look at this guy here back hand backhand tuck it in and act like you've been there right that was you must have heard this story I must have shared this story see this is what this is how it goes what's the story on that one You were very excited.

Oh, so excited. So I'd gone 150 games without a goal. And you know in Tampa, there's not a lot to write about. Our two paper guys, Damien and Eric, they flew on the plane with us because we're small town, Tampa. And that's just what you did. Save them a little cash or I don't know if they had to pay to be on the plane or whatever. but so you have a very intimate relationship and they don't really write anything bad about anybody because they're so close with the team they just kind of skirt around the edges well i wake up that

morning the or the day before we went to carolina it's like corey sarge 150 games without a goal can danico holds the record of 204 will he get there or something that i'm like oh this is awesome yeah really thanks clock's ticking thanks damien so then i get on the the plane he's not he's on every road trip he just so happens not to be on this one it's weird yeah we find ourselves an overtime that night was an overtime winner yeah and i don't know where i was going but can we see that one again now that we have the context viny prosper spol i started streaks streaking up the right boards viny prospel guess who in there he is guess who's in net Kevin weeks is that and has that brindamore on the back check that you've beaten to the puck there i think that looked like a 17 to me

Probably. Hey? But Weeks he's in the corner. Well, I used to score on him and practice all the time. Yeah. I get in the corner and if you read my lips, I'm saying, Damien. That's what I'm saying.

F you, Damien. F you. Yeah. But my favorite part, and if they had it on film, in Carolina, that's the other zone. In Carolina, like at our. end you have to the coaches don't go down a tunnel you have to walk across the ice kitty corner it's one of the only places in the NHL where you'd ever cross the ice as a coach like so coaches

have to walk either around the boards or across and i come flying down the ice and john tordrell is just about to step he's still like five steps away from the gate to be off the ice and i come down there and i stop like snow him basically and i scream so loud like yeah and i scared the living he like jumps up against the glass you almost had a heart i thought he was going down for sure that was that was my favorite part you can celebrate i was i was just a tad bit excited yeah and then a couple things that you'll never forget these because people won't let you forget uh hockey night in canada don cherry coach's corner what you say the biggest the biggest hit of all time or the biggest hit ever that was pretty shocking something like that yeah i was in seattle playing in the

the key arena and the boys are jumbo trons going with so for some reason Seattle hockey night in Canada yes it's close to the board yeah yeah they're like get out here you're on TV I'm like a look yeah you guys are pulling my leg Quinn Hancock um you you two I don't will ever forever be connected I'm sure it's a little he's a great dude a little better you know on your end than his end I'm sure he's not as jack to talk about it but it's about as hot it's about as hard as you can get hit in the hockey game. That's a pretty good one. Yeah.

I think we were, I think we were very close in this game or up in this game, too. It's in Prince George. I got railroaded in the corner. That's why I was a little owly coming up the ice. I'm a little late getting into the play. And his partner, the deep partner, kind of gave him a bit of a suey there. A bit of a suey pass. So how, and I think they brought the structure out, if I recall correctly, and you left the ice

for a while. I think he came back and had one, if not two goals. Two goals, yeah. And might have got first star. And they thumped us. Man, you don't leave your feet. But we started skating together and training together in Calgary, Quinn and I. Yeah. And it was like the elephant in the room. And I believe it was his brother or someone that was like skating with us that was finally like, are you guys ever going to talk about it? Yeah. Can we just get through this, you know? Hey, he's my speed dial yeah crazy you're all you always had that ability to to see it coming and to shift your direction and you did it here this is the one that again everyone remembers um Patrick marlowe could have been your teammate in the world juniors never ended up uh happen use use my teammate on team

Saskatchewan yeah yeah again it's probably would it be a suspension well do you leave because you don't really leave your feet there's a little bit of head contact right there yeah but you kind of you've tucked your you've tucked your elbow there as best you can it feels like you know how does it feel when you see a guy turning up oh one of the greatest feelings on earth yeah it has to me i've asked Warner but is yeah come on come on you put your you put your shoulder pad just right about here no right here here you said on the bike how much goes through your head in a short amount of time you'd be it'd be the same way i don't know i just was always like i remember in 13 and they're like so you mean i can just like body check people yeah and it's legal i don't know i really i i still think it's there's not enough of it

in the game. Reggear said it was the thing he misses the most. He misses the guys in the room and all that sort of stuff, but being able to go out and absolutely take out aggression and hit guys and get away with it. It's what he misses the most. Well, yeah, I think it's what I, when you retire, if that's been part of your game, you're missing that in your life too. And if you're having a bad day and it's just a practice, you can go run your own teammates too. That's right. You can, you can, you know, take out, practice like you play. He's so intense. It's a badge of honor. Yeah, yeah. So, we're all getting old how's you got these little kids that you had they're not

little anymore you've got some college age and 1917 15 right yeah how's getting old getting older uh it's pretty good mm-hmm I don't feel too old my knees giving me a little grief these days I'd like to be out running a little more but yeah taking some time off sure lots of lake time in the summer yeah still doing quite a bit of that stuff. I'm finding it hard to compete now with my son and nephews on the golf course. So I'm in that stage of my life. Sure. I actually really enjoyed my winter with work on Sportsnet and lots of alumni work. So trying to fill my time with that. I haven't really had a full career since my career ended. But yeah, it's good. It's got a nice, healthy balance.

And then, I mean, you know it, Boomer. Teenagers will keep on your toes. Yeah. Teenage girls. Keep your tremendous. Keep your bank account heading in one direction. Yeah. Yeah.

It's an interesting time. That's right. You're always been one of my favorite. You talk about all the time. Good things to good people. You're just one of the good people, Corey. I'm happy that the career that you were able to kind of seamlessly transition out of that, that you're good, that you're healthy, that the family's good.

And obviously that you're up and around and love and life. happy for you yeah thanks for having me and uh thanks for helping me out and uh get started on my second career it's what i do that's what i do happy to help you're gonna have to start passing your card out yeah maybe if you guys retiring i should take so my i should start helping myself figure out what i'm doing for a career instead of helping everybody else out but no you do it doing great buddy happy for you thanks for having me