Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Do Calgary Flames Fans Actually Want This Team To TANK?? 😬 | BB Clips

Episode Date: October 17, 2025

Video Link: https://youtu.be/E6AKs6tHpgkPinder, Rhett & Cabbie break down the Calgary Flames’ brutal 1–4 start to the season. What do Flames fans really want — a team that barely squeezes into the playoffs, or a full-on rebuild to chase a franchise-changing talent at the top of the draft? The boys debate what direction Calgary should take before it’s too late.#calgaryflames #nhlhockeyislife #nhl #nhlfranchise #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️FLAMESNATION MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It sounds like you guys are concerned. Like it's the way that you're speaking about your beloved Calgary flames. Well, I don't know. It's just like we saw this group work so hard to get to 96 points slash. It's remarkable that they could do that with that roster. But is this not what you had by the start of November or mid-November. I was expecting it to be like, oh, are we on? This is going to, this is, we can log in to left, Gabby, like 60 to go here.

where we are nowhere near. And they played their asses off. And it was like, this is awesome. And Wolf was good. And they were battling. And you're like, you know,

you got to give them credit. They are, they're earning it. It's the kind of team you want to cheer for as a fan because they're leaving it out on the ice. But there's a bot. But the talent level,

the effort level, awesome. The talent level, you just don't matter. match up with the high-end teams. And it's got to be a combination of effort and talent. But so I guess we've been anticipating a fall off, expected it last year. I fully expected this year.

And if they can prove me wrong, grand, great. But I think it's going to be a lot harder. And I think there's actually expectations in that room this year. Yeah, they're talking about 97 points. They lost by a time. And last year, and I don't know how much that play. into it, but last year was a clean slate. It was like, I don't know what we're

going to be. Let's just go try and see what happens. I think this year's different where there's a little bit more pressure. They think they're good. They should think they're good. But yeah, like when do they have doubt? Because they believe, but you can't keep believing if you're winning one

out of every five. At some point you're like, oh, this isn't the year we thought we were going to have. I was watching the chase episode one. Huskis said They just need one to four more points this season, 96 last year, 97 to 100 this year to get in the play. But, okay, so you're my question, do you guys, like, give them or how much grace do you give them? Because, like, the, they're, weren't there two back to backs already in the early in the seven? In different cities.

Tough teams. Like, it's, yeah, tough teams. It's not like, you're not playing, you know, Buffalo and, and, I don't know, Tampa or the Rangers in the first. You know, it's like the schedule's been, hasn't. been that friendly. So do you allow some grace for these guys? Yeah, I think like no one's going to come down hard on these guys if they don't make the playoffs. I don't think a lot of people look at the roster and say it's good enough. Like their top line looks like a second line. They've got great depth in the bottom half of their roster, but they just don't have stars. Yeah, I think there's a reality to it. I actually

don't think there's no disappointment. It will be easy and it'll be convenient to be able to pile on some days because, but there's actually no harsh criticism of it because you could look at that roster and go, this is what they are. Yeah. I don't think they, they didn't have effort in any of the games. I think they were outclassed by the Oilers for the first half of the game. They came around,

it worked hard at the second half and got some very fortunate breaks. They had a tough travel day back to Vancouver, and Wolf wasn't himself, and that's fine. One one going into the third. It's fine. They were still trying. I think against St. Louis,

they had effort. They couldn't put the puck in the net. Against, against Vegas. They're up. If Anderson scores, it's 3-1 instead of 2-1, and it changes things. Close.

And then you're back-to-back and go to Utah for a tough game. Your big question was Cooley. He actually played well. You just couldn't score again. I don't think they haven't tried. And as a fan and as a guy watching, I'm okay with that. If my team is out there actually giving an effort, it's fine. This is not watching the Sabres.

It's not like, look at all these young stars, why isn't it working? It's exact the opposite. Like, you got a lot of barn painters, not a lot of Van Goghs here, right? Like you're painting, but it's it's not that you're not dealing with this, you know, it's a phenomenal line. Wealth of like riches and talent. Like you're just not. They're going to be a blue-collaring hardworking team.

Yeah, they're going to win three to a tough time scoring goals. It's going to be tough for them to. If it's in three, like it just feels like, well, they're not going to win that one. And we've seen in the NHL two off. Oh, yeah, we are five games. They could absolutely rattle off. The four and one, sure. If they win three in a row, well, go.

We're right here. So it's not, it's not. Waving a different flag on next, call it next Wednesday. Here's the thing for us. I won't wave a different flag because I don't truly believe that without some very fortunate or some kid that comes along out of nowhere, unless you get a top three pick at some point or hit a home run in the fifth round

with some fluky kid from Europe, you don't line up when the playoffs start. You might make it in. You might battle for us. spot and I can respect it. But that is not going to give us a 10 year window of sustainable winning. Elite. Yes. Yeah, totally.

Fans here want a contender, Gabby. It's just that. Okay. It's not like, oh, we could get in once and like, let's trade futures to get like, no, like build it out. This team will be paid. This fan base will be patient. There is a new rink in two years.

When you move into a brand new facility just across from the saddle home, can you be a young, exciting, talented team? And they're on their way to doing it. It just takes a while. What do you guys remember about how St. Louis did it in 2019? Hot goalie. They were last place in January. Bennington gets called up and he was unbelievable.

Now, good team, but it might be the only team that's won a cup that, like in the cap era that didn't have a superstar. And they just rode the hottest goal in the league that year. Like, Bennington was a nobody to like, now he's in net for Canada. Bro, that could be this team. Good. Could be this team. You got the goalie.

You got the goalie. You have, you could argue. And I did it last year. I was a, let's not screw up this season and win too often. And then they started winning. And I said, well, if we're going to, how about we go add a 30 goal guy? Because we're going to need that to get us in there. And not saying that it's very difficult to do.

But you can look, we did it preseason. I did, I was, one day I came in, I'm like, this team's there. We got to play a seller is awful. The next day I came out, I'm like, well, you got a goaltender. Ball and Uighur and Anderson are pretty good. If Perrette can play, now I've got a top four, that's all right. You got Coronado. You got Coronado.

Grin play as well. Hubert O can get this. You can sell it as a playoff team, but you can't sell it as a top-tier contender. Yeah. When you go into another, when you go into Toronto and the leave, put your lineup on the board and the boys walk into the room to get their skates on. They're not

looking at the Flames lineup going as a defenseman. Okay, who am I watching out for here? Well, they kind of just that line's good. Then that line, yeah, they're good. And the third line, okay, that's back, that's

a good line. I'm not sure about the fourth. Like, you're not going, oh my God, Kovilchuk's coming down on me. I better be aware. With the yellow. Yeah. Yeah. When he's on, I got a.

That number 10, Pavilbury, just make sure your gaps in a good, there's none of those on this team. Yeah, you're going to have to play them. They're NHLers and they're got good depth. It's just, there's no, there's no worry when you line up against them.