Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Extension Coming For Elias Lindholm? | FN Barn Burner - June 20th, 2023

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

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And away we go. Another exciting edition of the show is on the way today. I can feel it. I can feel it my bones. Today's going to be a good one. That's what you're feeling in your bones? That's what I'm feeling. Not chill?

That arthritis and gout. All of the above, I'm feeling deep down in my bones here on the 20th of June. Can't be right, Dean. That's got to be a typo. Summer solstice. Just around the corner. Tomorrow? Tomorrow?

Oh, baby. Yeah, yeah. You wanted to have a huge party. Well, I just thought we should do something. Yeah, I'm in. I think you grab a bag of Zooms and give her. Yes, march into the forest and stay up till the sun goes down. A bag of Zooms.

Zippy Zamzow. Zumi, Zumi. Where does one get those? Colorado. Yeah. Into the forest. You can pick them yourself. That's right.

Please consult a Zumi expert before picking your own. Yeah, I don't, yeah, we don't need to go down that. All right. How are we doing, everybody? It's a chilly one here, retro. Pinder has declared it a soup day. Official soup day. All right.

What flavor and what are we going with here? Well, I'm going to go to the pub about eight blocks to the south of here and see what the soup of the day is. And if they fail to be up to what I believe will be a good soup of the day for this horrible, wet, cold, windy day, I'll move to another establishment. I'm not going to be waiting around. Good boy. Good. It's a soup day.

It's very low, low tolerance. I'm not, low soup tolerance. Sorry, I just turned my weather app on six. And what and windy? Yeah. Yeah. Ooh. And that's pretty much what it was yesterday, unfortunately, for the,

while you were smashing driver down the fairway dead center. Not a lot of fairway did center, but yeah. Smashing driver. What was, uh, the trees. So tell us about the event. It was a, uh, it was the Rocky Mountain, Rotary charity golf tournament

which is great. A lot of Cochran boys out there. The young fellas out there support and tons of alums saw patter,

Glennie, Dylan Deube was there, not an alumni, current player obviously. Colanos was there. A bunch of fellas. I think Wes Lysak

was there from the stands. Oh boy, Wes. Lots of, I mean, on and on the list goes, including some pals and partners and a great day was kind of had.

I mean, everything that they can control went perfectly. Yeah, right? You can't order the weather. So I felt bad for that. I also felt bad for the gal on the 10th T-box, whose tent flew up and shattered the windshield of a display car on the T-box.

Tough day to be a promo girl and or golfer. Insurance. Let's hope so. That's why we have it. It's a complique. Is that not the God, Redd or what are we, what's the insurance company? Is there a video of that? That would be something to see.

No, we showed up just after and, yeah, tears? No, just a lot of dismay. So whose fault is? this because I didn't start the wind and I put the sandbags on the legs and I didn't park the car there and well we just parked the car here and we didn't put the tent up and we didn't go to the wind either. Who parked that car there? I mean, it's supposed to be a display model.

It's supposed to be on the T-box. I don't know. I was worried for both sides. There was not a lot of confidence in what the outcome would be. So a chilly day, windy cold and you had shorts on. Right. It was not a short stay. I was trying to will it.

Anthony from Village was trying to will it as well. He was smart enough to have the audible to put the rain pants over his shorts when needed. Whereas I was stuck in shorts for six hours. I'm surprised. You'd be better prepared for stuff like that. Well, I had to shed a couple layers of the Wolverine because he showed up with a hoodie and Air Jordan's on. So I was deep into my stash of the supplies. He's from Alberta, right?

Yeah, he's moving right now. And he's like, oh, this shit's in my garage. Yeah, so we had to loan some stuff for him. That's good. I mean, for the, for the rotary because now we were talking with money. Sheldon from over at Grey Eagle. He is part of that. And he's the chair.

He's the chair. And it's, it's multiple charities. It's one of those things. It's like, well, now this, you know, now this group needs some help in this group. And now this group, it's kind of like an all encompassing good guys. We're sending some kids to camp yesterday with a sound of auction. That was great. Some people are going to Hawaii, deep sea fishing trips, Steelers, Raiders in Vegas, November.

There was all kinds of great things going on. Bill's Raiders and Buffalo. That was not an item there, but I think we should look into that, right? Just saying? Which team will Stefan Diggs be playing for that day? Oh, dear. Is that still contentious? Didn't he show up?

There was plenty of turmoil in Buffalo. It was supposed to be so good and tighten it. I read this morning he would like, what, some input on the, play calling. That's kind of the latest thing. That's an interesting ask. Yeah. Well, you got that new stadium with no roof coming. Is it a lid on it or can they? Oh, dear. Did they, because they started digging, right?

This is our billi, this is our big idea, you guys. We're going to design an inflatable, movable. Roof. Roof. Right. Ah, rough. Put a roof on it. They're going to be able to just drone it up there. plop it in place when need be.

I think he's already done the mushrooms. Yeah, I think so. The zoomers. Breakfast and zoomers. We could do it. We could do it. You know, you see that sometimes. The stampeters have it, right?

You have those big, it's like a big hair dryer thing. And it inflates the stampeters. They run out of them. And you see them all the time. Just make it really big with a bunch of hair dryers. And then it comes easy. It only needs to cover a 70,000 seat stadium. with, you know, good weather.

I said lots of hairdry. I'm with you. I mean, Rhett would know more about the climate there. I'm a little worried what happens when you get this snow effect of like two meters of snow on an inflatable roof, but maybe it's deflated at the time. I don't know. Wasn't it in Minnesota and Detroit at the domes there where the snow just broke right through? He's muted right now. I think he's trying to get the blow dryers.

The blow dryers are hot air. It's hotter to keep it warm. It's going to melt the snow. It just slides off. Jesus. It's not difficult. I feel like you could solve Buffalo's climate. issues right now.

Like, let's turn this into a tropical locale. Just keep those jars running. There's no issues right now. It's beautiful. Yeah, not here. Share some. We are here in the Tower Chrysler Studios. Tower, Chrysler?

Southern Alberta's number one, Chrysler Dodge Jeep Ram dealer. I checked in with Serge. I said, Serge, we need a sugar slash red meat update. Yeah, that's true. I didn't get one. but but I did get this our boy he he's out enjoying his best life that is him oh let me make him guess can you just can you decipher there retro who is to mr. fear what the greatest that is hall of fame goaltender and as most people remember him a former flame gold tender

flames great for him is he in the rafters i believe he is is what fear in the rafters obviously yeah he put his number up there damn right run for for the flames. Smiling like Grant Fear would. You know what? They should just do it to be dicks to Edmonton. It would be awesome. Yep.

They're retiring all the. Grant Fear's number up. Steve Smith's going up. That would be the one. That would be a good one. Yeah. Because he was here. Huge contributor to Flames playoff.

Your combo. It's going to be a big night down at the dome. Yeah. So good. So there's, yeah, Surges in Palm Springs. And sleeve on all surge. Apparently.

Oh, it's on both. If you see the next photo. So that's his right arm. Got on both side. Look at Surge. That's, is Riker Evans, the Calgary. Why is he down there suck-hulling with

the-coggi-Kin? I don't know that he's suck-hulling. I think he's down there enjoying. It's a great playoff hockey, Dean. We told it when it's six and rainy here. He's in Palm Springs. Yeah, really. Palm Springs would be like 40. It ain't no good June, mid-June.

I know what I prefer. Hanging out in a rink in Palm Springs? Perfect. Why is he in a rink? Because it's the finals of the H. Oh, I thought it was all my kid told me Hershey won the H-H. So it was 3-0 out of the gate for Coachella Valley, I think. Now, hang on. Game 1, 5-0-0, game 2-4-0. They lost game 3 in overtime, so at that point it's...

2-1. 2-1. My bad. So I missed that. Then the Bears win one. Now it's even Stephen 2-2. Then won nothing in overtime. Jesus, there was no.

3-2. And they won last night to force game 7 on Wednesday. Right back there. It will be at Coachella Valley. It's still the most idiotic schedule ever? 232. 232. 232.

It's not a best of five. But Evans, I believe, was a Regina Pat. He was a Regina Pat. Everyone's looking at Bedard. What kind of? It's good, too. Blow hard. I don't want to speak ill of search, but this far up the Oilers.

I told them. I said, they're watching down there, frolicking and. or is this circumstantial or did he go to it in there they just happened to be playing i could okay whatever didn't he say down there on purpose well didn't he say he was kind of connected with evans didn't yeah somehow some way they'd met so that's probably what it is down palm springs hey the kids playing for this thing and we'll go to a game and meet him out of that sort of thing yeah Seattle's farm team yeah and they say look

there's grandfure i mean to get a photo it doesn't really crack in farm team yeah Crick it happen towels. Hey, Serge? Oh, dear. That's not the right video. You sent me the wrong video? No. The one you have up there is the wrong video.

With the nose on the mouth. I don't know. We played that one already. Take a look. So yeah, Serge's living a good life, looking good. I'm from the looks of it. It's still off sugar.

Looking lean. Looking really fit. Mean. Yeah. I'm worried about the red meat, though. if he's off sugar red meat's going to be careful surge that's a temple all of a sudden

that's the only one in there brim I see more red meat please thank you do ta ta ta da te te te te te te te te talk amongst yourselves if you had lots of red meat on the course yesterday retro burgers courtesy the gray eagle on the ninth tea box and then

steaks afterwards more burgers on other holes how was the chorus you'd never played there I hadn't played bears pie I think I caddy did as a kid, I was quite impressed. There's a few holes that are blind, so it's a bit of target. But I'd been told, oh, you're not going to use your driver. And I'm like, no, that's not true. There was lots of, you know, lines you could take.

And I guess if you'd never played it before, it'd be a little like, where do I go here? But, God, we had one guy that played it six years ago. We knew exactly the plan everywhere. It was great. I thought there was a better course than I was expecting. A big shout out to their head pro, Mike, who finished third in our master's pool. And such a good guy gave everyone around at Bears Paw that finished top four. in our master's pool.

Just out of the goodness of his own heart. That's unbelievable. Working the mic. He was doing a great job with there. That boy, Mike. So nice of him. My kid broke a club yesterday, so I beat him with it. Oh, dear.

He can't joke about that. Retro. You want to cross a border here soon? What are you doing? You just cleared your name. Broke a club. Oh, no. I wasn't there.

Must have been messing around. Then the shoveler picked him up, and he was just like, oh, I'm interested. trouble. What's the matter? I broke a club. Through it. So what, kids golfing in school or golfing another one? Now they're out.

They're done. Oh, is that right, eh? It's why he was going to be travel week this week. It's still not travel week. Still the Buffalo. You've got a big grad this week? Did I, yeah? Well, that's part of the reason that the, uh, the big rig hasn't hit the road.

I was told in no uncertain terms. Terms that, you'll be attending the grade eight grad. grade eight grand no do they go to high school in grade nine there is that way that's a big deal okay i get that freshman sophomore junior junior senior senior four yeah there you go yeah we got the same there was what did you do in sask we were the same in sask but in calgary i think it's yeah we got the junior high here it's different so you go one to six then 79 i mean i like that better i just trying to imagine being in grade eight and having grade oneers running around where it's like no junior high it's like 79 but that's what i

grew up us. I hear you. You only know what you know. You only know what you know. There's a lot we don't know. It's true. More every day it feels like. I heard you guys chatting when I was driving up.

I know. I'm not going in no, see no damn Titanic. Man, that's shits. Yeah, that didn't feel like, uh, the safest of touristy plans, did it? Did you see the, uh, somebody tweeted me or sent me a message with a interview that was done on CBS about this? PlayStation joystick that runs the whole thing. A janky.

I would think your panic room in the basement there for the end days much more organized than that thing going to the bottom. Do we know enough to explain what it is we're talking about? Because I've seen it. I haven't... Yeah, I didn't know anything about it until it's everything on social media all of a sudden. So there's a submarine.

You can go on. It's not really a submarine. But I mean, it's going... They call it a submersible deed. Submersible. You shouldn't joke about it. You can buy a ticket, the submersible. 250 grand.

And you go down to see the ruins. Ruins of the Titanic record. Which is apparently very, very deep. Like this is not messing around. Now, you can't open it from the inside. You go down, you apparently look through some holes and see what's up with the Titanic. Come back up. They haven't come back up and it's lost, which is not good.

It's not good. But then the more you're looking at it, you're like, this operation isn't as airtight as I'd hope for something traveling, you know, to the bottom of the ocean. And have you seen what's going on with these sharks attacking the kayakers and orcas? Orcas. Come on. But I,

no, I saw when it was a great white, just went and rammed into a kayak. It's like, geez, what's going on in the water, boy, stay out of the water. It's going to say another reason not to leave your house.

So I read chose Buffalo over Florida. So far. Fresh water. Scary. Even the inland water is no good. So that's it. Florida. Yeah.

That looks janker on the inside too, which I don't know if it's scarier or less scary. Would you rather, what would you be less freaked out about? What would I be less freaked out about? Allow me to explain. I'm going to give you examples, so just wait. Going down deep, deep to the depths of the ocean or up into space on some Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mobile. Can I go on the NASA one? I feel like they are very organized.

They have a longstanding track record of a lot of success and check marks. I'm not sure that's true, Ryan Pinder, but I get what you're saying. A longer track record is all I'm saying. I feel like, yeah, there's always. Although Musk does all the work for NASA now, so I don't know if. If you listen to him, yeah, I don't know. I would go up. I wouldn't go down.

You don't believe that there's a partnership there and that he's, I have no idea with partnership. I just know that his last one didn't come down. It just exploded. The most recent explosion was musks. I like that he said it was a success. I thought it was an interesting take, yeah. Retro?

I'm not doing either, Dean. I'll be damned if I'm getting in that effing thing. It's a trick question. That's a good point. If I'm going up, just keep me going because it's a one-way ticket. The thing about up, the thing about up is- You think you're going up when it's over? You're dying in a blink if you're going up.

There's no like, oh, I'm just going to fall forever. Like, you're dead. It explodes. space, you're dead or the thing exploded and you're dead. This could be like don't, oh, right? Yes, we know. Like, don't. Don't. By the way. I hope it exploded. If.

Please. Yeah. If they're not coming back, please collapse under the pressure of the ocean and die instantly. Don't do the other option we're not going to talk about. Go up, not down. Oh, no, stop it. Is that the thing? That's the PlayStation remote. And that's the remote. PS4.

That's not a good idea. Don't do that. that. Nine hours they were supposed to be in that too. Nine. Three down and six around. Well, I guess. I don't know.

Technically, that's what I read. So where do you think your cutoff is for dare devil shit? I don't like this at all. I did. If going into space or to the bottom of the ocean is kind of whoa, how far back do we have to scale it before us? Like, you know what?

Yeah. I do. So skydive, that's probably. No chance. Bungy. Okay. So I've done my, I've reached my pinnacle for bullshit.

Mm-hmm. I bungeied off a bridge in South Africa. Yep. And I dove with Great White's, I mean, it was in a, whatever, the cage, cage. Cage. I was going to say tank, not tank.

And that was in South Africa too? In South Africa. Hunts by. Okay, what was the first one? Bungie. I bungeied off a bridge in Africa as well. Okay. And you use the around your ankle,

down you go. Hate it. hated every effing second of it. The shoveler had a stupid head that we had to do this. And you literally, I'm standing there. They made me go first because they knew it. And they're like, whoever's

the more hesitant, they're like, you go first. And the pastures, they try to confuse you, talk to you to the whole time. Oh, yeah, where you go? Jump! Ooh. Not good.

No. And so when you're falling down, approaching terminal velocity, what percentage is, percentage of your brain is thinking you're going to die? Like 99, 50, where are you? All I was thinking is I wanted over and then I thought about halfway down. I'm like, well,

you might as well open your eyes and watch it end. Yeah. So you were in the 90s for sure. And then you probably like, well, you start coming back up. You're like, I've done it. But then you bounce around for like another minute. Screw off. So did you... There's an adrenaline rush. Okay. So now, before I ask you the final

question, now tell me about the shark tank. I was pumped about that. They've got a huge, I don't know, population of Great Whites off that coast. And it's famous for Great Whites and how many you see went out in this rink boat and they threw a cage over and then the guide or the captain started saying, okay, well, we're going to do this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And they had a bait out there and the guy didn't even get through the spiel and he's like,

shot! And I'm, I was like George Costanza, but he, the fire started. pushing. I'm first. Kids and children. Out of the way. I'm going first. Yeah. I was pumped to do that. I would feel like that's quite a bit, like it would be scary, but I like the idea of reinforced steel and being

still versus just free falling towards the earth. Yeah. The terminal velocity. So I think we have the answer, but I was going to ask you, when you're done both of them, I guess specifically now, because we know you enjoyed the Sharts and you're excited for it, the bungee jump. Do you have any sort of feeling of accomplishment or exhilaration afterwards

that you're glad you did that? That was awesome. Yeah, at the time you're like, let's do it again. Really? Yeah, a bunch of adrenaline rush, but. I was going to say, you'd be like jittering like you had 15 coffees. I know, right? Jesus. Shoveler would be all frisky, rubbing you down.

Jeez. It's a mental mind F, that's for sure, because you're standing on the ledge and you're like, your brain is like, don't do that. No, no, no. It's bad idea, stupid. So. What about, say, like in Vegas, there's at the stratosphere. They have the carnival ride that spins out over.

like away from the building. Yeah. I don't even like rides of any sorts. So I'm not. I don't like. That's why I stay home. I don't like any of that shit. Even those,

was it the Grand Canyon where they have the walk, you walk out. It's one of those on the way up to Jasper. I know. The skywalk or air walk, wherever the glass floors in like CN Tower in Toronto. They can look down in Chicago. I think in the Calgary Tower.

They do the same thing. I don't think I need any of that. No. But again, I mean, like, let's take you back to 24-year-old boom, no kids, trying to impress a girl. How far do you go on the spectrum? The kids do, because even on planes when you start bouncing around, you're like, back in the days, I guess they'll be done. Had a good run. Yeah.

Now you're like, my damn kids. Yeah, I don't feel bad for the kids. Who's going to explain bad if to my son? Yeah. And then you're like, you know, deep down, they'll be better off. Yeah, they'll probably rebound just nicely. I know the wife will for sure. She'll be jacked about this news.

But the kids, even they might be just fine with it, frankly. What about you? What's the extent of your daredevilness? I don't know that I've done anything too crazy. I went caving, which at the time I thought was pretty normal. And then you heard that story out of the Philippines. You're like, that's an absolute nightmare. Like how that's not a major motion pitcher already, it's got to be in production.

Like when that soccer team in the Philippines goes caving and there's all kinds of raining and they get flooded and trapped and behind an underground river in a cave for like two, three days, whatever it was. Oh my God. I just keep thinking about what we would have gone wrong if I was still stuck in a cave in Austria a day later. It was in Austria. Yeah. Yeah. We did it in, I guess it was like Canmore Banff area. And they had this one section. So caving, it's, you just, you just, you walk in the mountain. Okay. And it's just, you know, it's been hollowed out by water and that over the years. Uh, and you, again, Again, you're putting trust in the people that are with you.

A lot. Your life. This Sherpa or whatever the friggie is. Okay, so you're getting us out. There was this one part of it. They called it the laundry shoot. And you basically just kind of, so you sit down, you put your feet into the hole, and then you kind of start to shimmy yourself.

And then you're just basically standing straight up, but your feet aren't on anything, and you're just kind of in, and you have to just kind of wiggle down. Do this sort of thing. and you slowly wiggle your way down and then you feel your feet touch the bottom and then you got to kind of kick your feet out and then you're down to your to your bum and you kind of keep going.

Well, trust there, Dean. I don't need to do that again. No, because I know in Canmore, there's actually a place that's at a cave where they do concerts and stuff, which would be epic, but that ain't out. I don't know. I don't know about that.

How far was the scooching underground there? time well it was you're you're trying to we were in inside it was over an hour but that and you you didn't have to do that part I think there was a long way around sure but it's like oh yeah we're going to do laundry shoot yeah let's go yeah it's like oh then it's like I got a bit of girth here you sure just a bunch of dare doubles you sure about this I I uh I didn't have a big lunch I'm not sure if this is the best idea but I survived the laundry shoot I don't know that I need, I don't need to skydive. How about skydiving, but you got the, the dude, the dude on the back.

I can't do that. I mean, if you've got an instructor or pro, it's going to be hard to mess up. I'd hope. I feel like your probability of success is much higher. Retro, can I sell you on two-man skydive? Not anymore. The answer is no. Okay.

Yeah, I think like a cliff jump from like five to ten meters right now, that's all I got left in me. That's it. Into some water. A lot of people around. I'm a five meter board at the pool. That's fine. Okay.

This summer, I'm going to take you guys to Strathmore. We're going to go running with the bowls. I buddies do that in Pamplona two summers ago in Spain. The real one. I ran yesterday. Every stride hurt. I actually said to the person I live with,

I'm like, I can't even run. It's pain. No, I'm out. No. Yeah, I am not very,

uh, elusive anymore. there's maybe a time you think. You want some agility? I'm kind of shifting. Good side to side, all right? But the word is in Spain, the move is it's a winding road, right? It's cobblestone.

Yeah. And so they've got these hoofs on the cobblestone. It's not good. So you have to stay on the inside of the turns because they slide around every corner and wipe out into the walls. Yeah, they miss the apex of the turns. Yeah. You're just getting destroyed by like a two-ton animal.

Yeah, except for that one idiot. Then you get that one max for a stop in the bulls. Remember that one video or the guy avoided the one spun or, round who thought he got away and kerplowy right in the chest you don't want to get gourd getting gourd would be a horrible experience that'll be another one just let make it quick yeah gore like there's they've got a word for yes gourd not good not like gourd from the hip gourd from like a horn through you yeah what is the other gourd like it's like a that's like uh don't you fill it with potpourri at Christmas or something.

Yonigord? Yonigord. Yonigord. Now, going back to your shark thing, did you see the video from a couple weeks ago? I think I had... The guy, the Russian dude? Yes. Ooh.

I think I missed this. There's a shark in a Russian dog. Lunch. Not good. The shark friggin ate the guy. Right offshore. Gonzo. Australia, mate.

A lot of that. Speaking of Australia. you. Why do we do that now, Jack? It's trying. Right near the end there, right before, right before the Betway, I had that video. This is Rhett from Stratlin. We've played this, no, we've talked about these before, and I've not, I would love to get to Australia one day. Red, have you been?

You've been. Twice. I love it. Yeah, and obviously you've been Pinder. A couple times with Mama Bear from there. And I think it would, you see kangaroos. Are they everywhere? Like, is it just kind of, it's like seeing deer.

It depends where you are, but yes. Like if you were living in Jasper, Bam, for Cammer, you'd see deer all the time. And so certain parts of Australia, there's just kangaroos running around like you'd see deer. And to this point in your life, I feel like when you're a kid and that you see them in cartoons or whatever. It's like a little rue in the pocket in the pouch in the quay. Joey, all is so cute. We're learning the kangaroos are assholes, right? Big time assholes, yeah.

Look at this. This video came up. Some people just trying to enjoy themselves. go to a koala park because koalas are cute. Yeah, they are. And now I don't know if these A-holes are just allowed to run around. But look at the... You've got Doritos in her pockets?

What's going on here? Look at the balls on this guy. He wants to fight. He's like, all right, that's a lot. It likes to fight kangaroo guy. That's an Aussie for sure that, dude. He's not messing around. And now it's, I'm going to kick you.

The feet are what, look out. Do you the size of those legs? They're not messing around. You get on those hind legs. lookout. It's like Marty Jelina there. Jeez. Huge trunk. Awesome. Oh, he's got to reach. So cold on there, yeah.

And I give this guy credit. Standing up for his wife. Because you would think I don't know if we played it, but you've seen the one where the, I think the kangaroo has the dog. Oh, man. And the guy runs up and just gives him a right cross, right in the jib, and he finally drops the dog. I hate those things. They freak me out.

Yeah, I don't need, I don't need any part of it. And look at him. Hey, you want some of me? You want some of me? What would he sound like? How would he be? Oh, I, mate, you want a piece of this? Step right up.

Let's go, bitch. Where's Ozzy Brad? Ozzy Brad wouldn't look at him. I know. I don't like this. He wouldn't be dealing with any of this. No, he'd be, he's going to be telling you got to get on the aggressive boom. Keep punching.

Look it. I think I would. Now I would drill that thing. Well, it's time. It's time. It's definitely time. I might give my body shut. Before he lands one of those hooves, those legs are huge.

Now, if you kick him in the balls, are there balls? I don't know if that's male or female. I think they're going to feel something there, yeah. He just won't let him. That's it. This guy's not intimidated. This is impressive behavior. I'd be climbing a tree right now.

Oh, and what's that thing in the background? It's like, I'm going to slap fest. We need that thing to go in slap fest. That's right. So what we need, boom, if we're going to introduce you to kangaroo, you got to start with the wallabies, because it's basically this, but they're like miniature. It's like if all you saw were dogs that fit in purses, you couldn't really be afraid of dogs.

The wallabies is your nice entry point to kangaroos here. And they're always on Nans lawn. If you get up early in the morning and you can't sleep, they're out chewing under grass. What about your Muay Thai experience, Red? Is there a kick that thing's ass? Deep. Oh, that lady.

That lady was handing out some, no you don't. Not around here, Mr. Listen, you little punk. Control your G.D. kangaroo lady. Chihuahuas are great, though. They got a kangaroo thing by They eat them over there too, you know. Yeah.

Canger steak. Yeah. Wow, they try to get rid of these assholes. I'll let the meat. There's something with it. Seriously. Can we marinate it? Is this edible?

Yeah. Kill these assholes. I feel like it'd be very, uh, gamey. I did. I think I had it. It was just,

really? It was a meat. It wasn't special, but it's like if you get enough onions and is it a little more tender in the, and all kinds of midriff? Because I got to think that you don't want to be. God, those are disgusting animals.

Very. I hate it. Yeah. Not the best. Now the hand things, are they sharp? Have they got claws? I don't know if claws is the right terminology? I don't know.

That one from years ago looks scary. Yes. It looked like a dude dressed up as a kangaroo. He had a six pack. Yes. He was frigging ripped. It was like one of those half humans, half animals from the Greek mythology. It was spooky.

He was taking on John Jones and the octagon. This guy's fucking scary. looking. So I don't need kangaroos in my life either now. There is a place in Vernon. You can literally walk up and it's a huge fenced area like an acreage kind of thing and there's like 50 of them. You can go walk amongst them. That's a very atypical response. You're going to struggle in Australia, Dean. Yeah, you are.

There's a lot of things. They're very dangerous content. On the scary spectrum, kangaroos at the green light end, not the red light end. The red light end is like the spiders the size of your face. snakes. A lot of snakes. Dingoes. Dingoes babies, sharks. Jellyfish. The only fish, yeah, blue bottles.

Crocodiles. Is it crocs out there, mate? Yeah, it is. Oh, yeah. Alligators in Florida, crooks. Is that right? A lot of killing. Shit. Wildfires. I guess I'll just stay home.

I guess you'll stay home. I guess I'll just stay home. The other thing is, if you're, it's not like the kangaroos are walking down Main Street either. So if you just stick to the city centers, I like your chance. Well, like Ozzie Brad, what Melbourne? He's on the outskirts, though, yeah. I mean, he's got a bit of land there.

You can see you and he's pointing over. But he's got the dog, too. Like, Trigger's going to let us know of some asshole kangaroos starts. Tromping around. Tromping around. Trugger's going to put a chomp into some snakes if they're around the house. Oh, I don't like snakes. I hate snakes.

If you don't like snakes, Oz isn't for you. That video where they're coming through the ceiling. Oh, they're huge. God almighty. Well, I understood, uh, you had a great Father's Day retro. You said you got into the IPAs and you said how they make you sleepy.

You have two or three and they make you sleepy. Which is not great. It's your day. You want to be with the kids. I don't want to say which one, but you know, somebody in the house that you live with sent us another video. They're very good at reaching out.

This is some Father's Day video. And I don't know. I think it's post meal. This is for outdoor dental. Post meal, let's take a look here Because I think you've got a toothpick Going and there's something I think that's the gift

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So there's liver spots Is that from all the booze you hammering? It's warts Were you doing some drywall? Looks like some drywall mud maybe that is full capacity yeah there's not a lot of room left in there no vacancy it almost doesn't look real

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This is going to be. Yeah. If you snore and you know what clap your hand. Um, social media is something, eh? Hey? Well, that's how we learned about the submergeable or the Well, yeah, I mean, moving on from that.

Brett and I kind of talked about no Hanofan yesterday. We had it on driving up. Flames and No Hanifan. Are you all concerned? This sort of thing. And as we had said, like Chris Johnston, it sounds like maybe Lindholm, but the no Hanifahe.

Probably looking at a Hanifan trade. Is Hannafin is looking to move elsewhere. not going to sign long term. So then, of course, we panic on social media. So it's, okay, so Noah Hanofan, guess he doesn't like Calgary. And, okay, so then Goodrow did, I guess, didn't like Calgary and Kachach.

So that's three guys now that don't like Calgary. And you know what's in common? You know what? They're all Americans. Americans don't like, don't like Calgary. So you know what we need to do. Don't draft Americans. Don't ever draft Americans again because they don't want to come here.

They come here and they don't want to be here. We don't, we want guys that want to be here. So we can't draft. I mean, you know what? You better trade Coronado. Whatever you got in the system right now. How are they going to sign a coroner? Get them out while you can still get something for them.

Otherwise, you're going to put you over the barrel and you're going to be left holding the bag. And you know what? You just better bring back former flames. Guys that did like it here. Find out who played here and liked it here. And you bring them back because then you know that you're, you're in a good, you're in good shape and you'll be just fine. It's June, hey? Or maybe.

Noah Haniffin just maybe wants to change. Maybe Noah Hanofin is like, hey, I like Calgary, but I know the caps jump in a ton. I ain't sign a shit this summer. I'm trying to make more money. So if you're asking me to sign this summer, the answer is no, because that's my right to wait till free agency. I've been working my ass off for seven years to get to UFA. Why am I just going to give that up? Yeah.

I could make $5, $10 million more on a long-term deal in a year from now if I just wait. Yeah. And we only hear bits and pieces here. They may have exchanged numbers and he was okay to resign, but he wants. a number. The Flames are like, that's not a number we can do. Okay, I'm not resigning. It is June. The players have all the rights here. They can do what they want. Like, you're a year from UFA. You're absolutely, it is your full right and no one should shame these guys if they want

to just see out the end of their contract. So if, for Flames fans, if they keep him, go into next year. So don't trade him, you're saying. Don't trade them now. Keep them, go into next year, hey, we're going to try and see if last year was an anomaly. So many things went wrong. It can't happen again. Let's try and get back in. And then you lose him for nothing next year. Flames fans are not, you're not going to be happy. It's just kind of contradicts what Connie said, right? But just you don't want to lose another guy for nothing. Yeah. But if you trade him now, what do you, what needs to be in the trade for you to be happy? Because I saw all kinds of things.

Well, who's going to take? Well, you'll get a top six. You get a top four defenseman in the trade. You get a top 15 pick. You'll get this. You get that. But then, but don't go too young because you don't want guys too young. You don't want guys too old because they want young. You don't want too many Americans. You don't want this.

You can't have Americans. I think that the challenge that Craig Conroy is in is that, like listening to you guys yesterday, I think Brett makes really good points. If you had full control of the ship, this is a really good time to say, are we loading up to try to win something now or are we going to get young? The challenge is, if the marching orders are what they've been, been for the last ever with this majority owner. That's not his marching orders.

His marching orders are going to be competitive, but also he'll know he has to get younger. And so he's trying to walk this tight wire of getting younger, but also remaining competitive. And the Rett's point yesterday, tough to lose a top four defensemen and feel like you're not losing a bit on the competitive side. But you're also offering up some cap space.

You also have other assets that you could move. I don't think if you're moving Noah Hanifin, you aren't finding another D man somewhere. you can get younger and, you know, also remain competitive, but that's, that's hard. That's what Craig's got in front of them. How do you do that? It's tough because on one hand, the argument is you'll get a lot for Noah Hanifan, because look at the market, look what's available for a defense.

Yeah. But then here you're kind of saying, well, if you get rid of a hand, you'll find a defenseman. You'll get a guy that comes in. Like it's, well, you won't get a Noah Hanofin. I don't want to suggest that. Yeah. And so what I think you want is someone that could play number. number four because I feel like between Shillington and Tenev, you can't be 100% that A,

TANF is going to be healthy or that Shillington's going to come back to normal. Now, I think it's probably reasonable suggest that for large portions of the season, that'll be a fine second pair. But you just have to expect that Tannab's going to miss some time and that there'll be some hiccups along the way for Shillington at some point, whether that's early because he's been off or just because there's a lot of uncertainty around we don't really even know what happened. You just needed time. So do you have someone that you could bring in that, is a good third pair defenseman, but in a pinch could play second pair for a month or two. That's the type of player that's going to help them bridge to someone that either they draft this summer in the teens or a young player that comes back in a package or just buying time for guys that you're trying to develop at the American League level.

Who's done a good job? What team has done a good job of bridging? Boston. Charo old, Bergeron. I don't know if they've been bridging. They've been a top team. for a decade. I don't know. But they've also, they're doing what the flames are trying to do, which is they know they have guys longer in the tooth, but they've also done a good job of finding ways to get young players in. Now, they gave, the last couple of years, they've been selling some first to bring in some guys. But I just look at the way that they've gone about their business. And I'm like, we thought they should have plateaued by now age wise, but they still have a pretty decent stable of guys that aren't really old. And they've done a good job of bringing goalies in. Um, you know, they've done some things of free agency.

Like maybe Taylor Hall doesn't work, but the UNSOLMark looks like a great free agency signing. And it hasn't been like full get young, but they've found a way to lose a chara and not be worse. And I feel like if when Patrice Bergeron and David Kreacher gone, there's going to be a step back. But by then they'll probably have found another young forward to come in there. And I, like, I look at the, a lot of the moves they make it. I'm like, that's impressive because it's not that they've drafted tremendously well, but yet there they are still. I mean, I kind of agree. And I'm just kind of, because I'm trying to struggle.

I just think over the years of guys who have come in here and given you quality minutes in terms of defense. And you had four board, but he was kind of a deadline guy, right? You got Schlemko years ago off of waivers. Stetcher came in and played pretty well. Deadline. Obviously, we saw what happened with, in Columbus now, four times four. Good Branson. Good Branson.

I, I wonder if that's the easier. move. Go find a five that can play four for a couple months if you need. And I'm with you. I like Stetcher. I guess, Red, I'll ask you, I don't know if we talked about this necessarily. How big of a risk is it for Conroy? Let's say you're going to move away from Hanofan and maybe you don't get a top, top four minute muncher quality proven NHL guy back. You are putting faith that Oliver Schillington is going to come back. What's the level concern for you that he can get back to where he was. What was the problem?

When you go back, what, what truly was he? Yes. What is he away from Chris Tanev a year and a half ago? He had one year. One. Yeah. He was a massive breakout. The rest of it, you were like, you're squinting.

So to say, what's he kind of come back as? I don't know. He only had it could have been a one. and done kind of season if he'd have stayed. I don't know. It's not like he's put together three or four years of quality hockey, like Erasmus Anderson, right? Like he's still young.

He skates like the wind. I like how he played the last time we saw him. That's not a sure. For that, there were a lot of issues with them. I think you're betting on the tools and hoping that the environment's a more nurturing one for him. I guess not even for him because he wasn't in it last year, but we don't know if those were things related or not.

But the last you saw him, he was a guy in his mid-20s where everything clicked with the right partner. That partner's still here. His tools aren't gone. He's still going to be a great skater, right? He's not going to forget that. I sort of thought as the season went on, his game sort of fell off a bit two years ago.

He had a couple ugly hits into the end wall. But look, you're asking him to be a four. And could you find a four B if he, doesn't pan out. Because I don't worry about him if he has to play your third pair. And to be fair, there's a lot of teams where it's like, yeah, we only have three top four defensemen and now we're at the deadline. Let's go find the fourth. So what are we looking at pairs wise? Just off the top two. I think it has to be Anderson Wieger is your top pair. Those are your top two defenseman. If Aniffin's gone, Tanev is your right side second pair. Shillington had his only great year in the

NHL next to him on his left. You put those two together. And then you've got Zadora of plus whatever you have back, whether that's Michael Stone or Troy Stetcher, or if you think, Gilbert's got another step in there or someone else in the system can step up. Or, to be fair, a guy you signed for a million bucks on a one-year deal that can be a six-seven. I don't worry about the third pair. It's what Rett's worried about. Who can play that second pair if one of Tannaver Schillington isn't there? Yeah.

There's concern on both of those guys. Let's just just stop for a second. What are we doing? We're slapping a team together again. Kind of. I mean, not kind of. We are. we're going, oh, hopefully we can get this.

I'm not, I don't think TANF is going to make it through the year. This is my opinion. It's a, I think he's been beat to piss. And I think sadly, once a guy of his style play gets to a certain style of age and suffers the type of injuries that he's had to overcome over the last 18 months, the road to recovery is. Yeah. Very minimal chance that he's, that's my opinion.

I'm very good at. medicine, but I'm not a professional. So there's a huge concern there. Schillington, you don't know what he is to begin with. And now what we're doing is what you can do and what teams do

do you, okay, are we any good? I don't know, but we can't be bad. So let's, no, no, I think it's just Let's spend a little here and fill this hole and try and tweak this and find out. We're both with you, right? It's not a plan, though. It's not a plan. But it's what the owner's telling

them to do. No, we don't know that. That's fine. That's, if history's taught us anything. I'm just saying if you trade Hanifan, what do you need back? Do you, do you need a guy? Or are you happy with that pairing? Because, I'm with you.

I'm with you on Tanna. And I have nothing to back it up other than just watching guys who have played. And I feel like Shillington is kind of tied to him. That Shillington's success is related to whether or not he's healthy. And if he's not, is Shillington to be, is he fine? Is he, now what is he? Is he a 5, 6? Or is he another year closer to being a top pair guy?

What you're trying to do with a 5, 6? I can be wrong. Yeah, I know. But my whole general thing is, sorry, I don't disagree what you're saying, Pinder. And if those are the marching orders, those are the marching orders. Yeah. But it's exactly what we talked about. Please don't do this.

Have a plan. Have a long term. Have a five your plans, right? Yes, let's have a better plan. If you're trading Hannafin, fine. Restock the shelf. Yeah. Well, and look, there's been a lot of suggestions out there. You move Hannafin, you get a pick higher than theirs in round one.

You get two picks in the top 15, top 16, I should say, in this draft class. That could be the stocking of the shelves you're talking about, Rhett. And if you get lucky or, you know, moderate luck and that second pair is okay, you might have done what we just talked about, which is walking that tight wire. But there's a lot of ifs there. I think we're all in agreement here. This would be a really ideal opportunity to get young and say, don't obsess about the playoffs this year. You've got a great opportunity to sell high on a lot of guys. So let me ask you this.

I think I asked him yesterday, if in fact, and you're handed this, if Hannafin doesn't want to say, so you're going to trade them. And you make a Hannafin trade, and it's mostly picks, prospects, you're getting youth back. Yeah. Are you now kind of pot committed to a rebuild, a real, I know they can't say that word, with how you handle backland to full, all of that. Are you now all in, almost on a quick rebuild? Not necessarily.

I think you have until the deadline to see what you look like. If this is a really good team and you're like, shit, we had, boy, that was, that worked out well. I don't think that you are necessarily. And on the flip side, if it's just like, shit, we're in ninth on the West again, we'll definitely don't take to Foley to free agency. Sell them at the deadline. Definitely move Chris Tannov. Don't take him.

Backland, you're selling a Selky candidate type guy. Like, sell him at the deadline. You have flexibility with those guys. But the two guys you can't fuck up are Hannifin and Linholm. Because they're guys in their theoretical primes that are going to get max term. These are the most valuable assets you have. It's not a 35 year old centerman. It's not a 32 year old injury riddled defenseman. It's not a roller coaster of a defenseman coming off 14 goals that is on his 15. The two surest things you have in the organization that you have to make decisions on are

Hanifin and Lindholm. You can't screw those up. I'd love resolution on both of those before the season starts. The other ones, I can live with a little bit of flexibility in season. Is that fair? It is fair. If Conroy's been handed and open I don't know what terminology I'm trying to use but Craig this is your team.

Run with it. Then the trading of Hanifin doesn't become a huge issue. You can go to whatever happens with, Lindholm happens. You can go into the season with the squad the way it is and obviously he can have to fill holes and put people in place to fill out the

roster but he might be in great shape because he will get be allowed to let's monitor this team how are we doing new head coach bunch of changes new players app space yeah we're not right there let's because you have great assets to ship to restock right like that's the that's the it's the marching orders that become the concern. Yeah. If it is a win and get back into playoffs, that's a tough. It's a good point. I know you're going to jump in.

You're not just having players coming off the cap, but you have players that are essentially coming off the cap, but you can get something legit for them. Because a lot of times it's just, well, at least we got that money back. We didn't get anything for them. I'll just, it's not to like Milan Luchich,

like his cap hit is gone, but it's not as though you got something. Here it's, well, there's five million and there's five million and picks, kids. We get picks and whatever else coming in plus that 10. It's got to be mouthwatering. Just to sort of, I guess, put that into more concrete terms. Tyler Foley might not be worth more in his career than he is right now. 35 goals, well below market value.

One year and it's gone so that you could eat money and any contender can squeeze them in. 35 goal season last year? Like we're talking career numbers here, high value. Lindoman Hanofin, I would say, are having great, good to great years, not career years, but they're very well established of who they are, what they are in this league, and they're the types of players every team wants. Minutumunching top four, a top 20 center in the NHL is where Frank put him when we had them on two weeks ago. I'm not going to rank the centers.

Frank did it for us. I don't think that's a crazy assertion. Kristaanov, if he's healthy, is a perfect defender to add at the deadline for a contender because he's a defensive wet blanket. He's great at that. like stabilizing his partners what he's been doing forever. And he's not expensive. Shillington.

No, and he's a low note. And again, you can eat on these deals that expire in a year because if you're selling this year. Yeah. If there's a lot you could get for all those guys and we haven't even talked about Zadora coming off a 14 goal year or Vladar who you're probably going to try to ship because you've got another goalie on the way. You could be sitting on a lot of picks and young players if you were allowed to simply rebuild or sell all these expiring.

assets. Backland to a contender at the deadlines. This exact type of guy you try to add. And the other thing is, too, when you're talking about young players, unless they're really young, it doesn't mean you're accepting being bad. Sometimes you can go young and you'd be surprised. Look at Nashville this year. What you might be able to accomplish with some new younger players, some new energy. There was a lot of new guys last year, but not that kind of not young news. Yeah. So I don't know. It just feels like if if you're if you're getting only getting young guys back in a potential Haniff and DOL, now you're committing

to sucking next year. You get to watch it for five months. That's the thing. October, November, December, January, February trade deadline. And I think that's going to help, Craig. If you can get clarity on the two big chips, then you can at least let the rest play out in front of you and be like, Jesus,

Marsham looks great. Shillington looks just, or the opposite. Like, man, like Tenev, Shilinton, like we have two top four defensemen. Like, we have to sell. At least you have a better idea of this team looks like. Because again, the other thing that's changed is the environment of these players in is different, a new coach.

You did that for a reason. You hired one guy out of anyone available on earth. You got to let him try to put his fingerprints on this thing. If I was going to pitch a rebuild to the owner, I think it's pretty easy, the pitch, whether he says yes or no. Sir, you own a franchise that's certainly worth more than a billion dollars. That's what senators are worth. when you look at new buildings for teams and their franchise values,

you see massive, massive jumps in what they're worth. Murray, your bottom line guy, you like, you know, making money, making good business deals. Why don't we aim to be excellent when that building opens in around four to five years? Because if you open a new building where everything's more expensive and the $10 beers are 15 and the $100 seats are now $200 and your team's a doormat and old, this ain't going to be the windfall you think it is. But if you have found a way to build a young team over three or four or five years into the opening of that, you might have yourselves a serious cash bonanza here because the team is young and competitive in time for higher prices for everything you sell. Your new profit center has a good team in it.

That's the pitch I'd make. And two things from that, I think. The other thing you could throw in there is we, be honest, we haven't been close to even getting to a cup final here, let alone winning one. A couple trips to the second round. Yeah, that's how we're. You haven't made it halfway to a Stanley Cup championship. And I think maybe we've talked about this.

I think if there's a situation or a time or a scenario where Murray might be willing to accept something like that is when it's Craig Conroy and Jerome McGillard, trying to sell him this plan. Do you agree, Rhett, or do you think it's... I do agree. One thing we haven't mentioned is the competition in the conference. Last two Stanley Cup champions. Out West. Yeah. Colorado going to be better.

If you had... It's still going to be good. Edmonton. Two more years of those clowns. Yeah. Right? So... Like, at least, maybe more.

It's... You can't always time that out because other teams get better. and other teams get worse, but to me, it's not an ideal time to try and, you know who knows the best about it? The 80 mid-Stanley Cup champion Calgary Flames team knows the best about going up against the best.

That's a team that, right? They had to play the Oilers all the time. It's my final every year. Right? Yeah. And to be the best, you've got to beat the best, but there's something to be said about massaging it. Yeah.

And then it's, I think there's also just, you know, I agree with everything you're saying right. It's also just a zany tournament. Like Vegas missed this thing last year. They missed the playoffs. If we had to draw the arrow where that organization was pointing, it was flatter down. Lenners hurt.

They're down to no goalies for this year. But they didn't fluke this thing, right? I'm not saying they did. I'm just saying it's really crazy. They had their year over year. The results goes, but it was year over year. I mean, they made it to a cup final. They lost it.

I mean, that was the one anomaly. They were building towards this, really, from the start. Yes. Now, you could argue they missed it, though, because you looked at the age of these guys. And well, Patrangles probably played his best. Stone's probably played his best and he's hurt all the time. I don't think they missed it. No, okay.

I would have thought, you know, those guys. They're not 36 years old. No, I'm not saying they're bad. And I don't want this to be an Anzik Copantar thing. But if you had to pick the age where Mark Stone is at his prime, it's probably not the year where he misses two months with a disc in his back. You know what I mean? Jack Eichol. Yeah, who had some question

marks too. I think they're a really good team. They missed last year. It's a weird tournament. I look more to the years where Montreal went on their freak run or whatever. I'm not saying they're fluky. I'm just saying when everything goes wrong, even for good well built teams, they can miss.

Like Tampa went to the East Coast Eastern Conference final, three out of four years and they missed the one year in the middle. That's a well-built team that we all thought was going to win and ended up did winning. It just, when everything goes sideways. I mean, if you lose Connor McDavid, and don't get net mining next year, Emmington could fucking miss. It's, it's that

weird of a league. And it's not the justification to say, we're all contenders if the chips fall the right way. But it's just a reminder that what we just watched might have been the worst case scenario for the Calgary Flames. They didn't get goaltending. The coach in the room didn't mesh. The new guys didn't find their feet or took too long to find their feet. That was pretty much the worst case scenario, wasn't it? I'll do one thing. I'm just writing this down, because I will forget it. but I want to tell you about about something here before we go further.

I, uh, there have been some people, some fellas that are kind of in my orbit, you know, thinking about this whole, uh, you know,

getting settled, settled down marriage kids, this sort of thing. Oh boy. And we kind of play poke fun about it. Oh, don't get married. But listen,

if you're in that, I think talk some guys. There's some real sticker shock over what it, uh, costs you to go out and get a ring these days. I'm not in that market. I've, I'm taken, ladies, sorry.

But, uh, try as they might. Yeah, so I've not been in the engagement ring market for quite some time. But yeah, it's, this is concerning. And I tell it that two guys, I was like, Venova, lab grown diamonds. You may not know anything about it.

I didn't. Now we do. And it's the way to go. And I think that it's, just growing and growing. Calgary has one lab grown diamond specialist and it is Vinanova. Justin is awesome. He has the only store in Calgary that specializes exclusively in lab grown diamonds. 80% saving off of what you're going to pay 75, 80% some cases. And now it may not always be. It's not right across the board, but there's some real money to be saved.

And we said, maybe you've got a budget, you get more for that budget or it allows you to save some real money and get that that ring that you're looking for it's grown in a lab it's like science chemicals and weird composition and stuff it's just you don't know what you're talking about the eyes i have newton tongue of bat putting a bunsen burner and a little beaker they know what they're doing you do one of these you hold it up you look at it and you give it one of these then you put it back on there that's what justin does in the back i don't think it's got a big smock that he wears. Vena Nova.com is the website.

Their downtown location, second level Stephen Avenue place. This is the way to do it, folks. Telling you, take care of your, take care of your loved ones, do the thing, but take care of yourself as well.

It's Vena Nova. It's a win-win, dude. It is a win-win. Before we go further, I just want to, when for the flames, the players have the leverage or have, you know, the hammer in this.

If Hannafin doesn't want to sign, he'd tell you, I'm not going to sign, so you're probably going to want to trade him. If you are Craig Conroy and specifically Ryan Huska, you've been around this team for years now. If you have it in your head, we've talked about the room, what's wrong with the room, something's not right with the room. How do you fix it? I don't know. Is there a scenario where you can maybe slide one of these into a deal where you can maybe try to address some of these other things, where it's like, yeah, Hanifan goes, but you know what also has to go is this goes as well in that deal.

And, you know, maybe he's money. Maybe you don't. Maybe we take some of your bad money for one more year, whatever the case is. I wonder in trades of this magnitude, because you would think if you're moving Hanofin, it's to a team that feels like they're close to winning, can you sweeten that pot a little bit

that if your roster isn't as strong, maybe you're addressing some other things. So you're suggesting that, The flames would eat some bad money from a team or the other team would eat some of the flames. Whatever it is, whatever works to get that deal done if it addresses something that's going on in your room. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I think that's what you're trying to do here.

If you know there's issues and you aren't trying to address them or resolve them, you're not doing your job here. I don't know that it's easy because I think the view from a long way away is that the issues are the guys that have huge money and huge term that are the hardest things to move. Yeah. Like if it's like, oh, Tenev's an issue, we got to get rid of them. Yeah, fine. There's one year left. Hey, now some codries issue. Oh, there's six years left.

That's good. No, we're not taking that. We're a contender. We're capped out already. We're not taking your cadre. For six years? Is it six? Still six?

Well, seven, but one's off. So six now. I thought maybe two or three years slid by there without me looking. Felt like it last year. Do you feel like Huska and Conroy have a good read on what's going? on in their retro? I do. Yeah.

I do. Not to say you can fix it or fix it in one off season or whatever, but. Hoska, I think they, I think they've got it. How can't you? They've been around it. They've been immersed in it for better, well, Connie for a long, long time. Huska for, what, five years or so? Like, yes, they know what's going on.

It's just, does their plan to fix it result in success? Does it work? Everyone thinks that they've got the answer, right? Like Danny Breyer thinks he's got the answers in Philly. Jury thinks she's got the answers in New York, right? Like there's no one out there that's going, I don't know what the hell I'm doing, but I guess Jimbo's gone. And to be fair, if you're the flames and you're the owner or you're John Bean or you're Don Maloney,

delicious bologna, like these are the people you put in place to fix this problem. So, I mean, if you're, don't think these guys are trying to diffuse a lot of the issues that happened last year. I don't think you're making all these changes. Of course, you're making these changes to address them. And sometimes you have, can the young kids that you have move up and make a difference?

That might be the biggest. All this other stuff we're talking about, oh, move, Cadre, move, Huberto, maybe he can't. Oh, wow, we can trade back. There's lots of pieces to this puzzle, but if you can't, if the guys that you have in your farm system aren't good enough to play, you're screwed.

Yeah, like if you have significant production, like good steps forward from Peltje and Dura and Coronado's and everyday NHLer, that's a quarter of your forward group. And that probably allows you to look at your other forwards differently. Like, well, hey now, I know Tafoli is a guy that's going to open a hole for us, but Coronado is filling the net quite a bit here. This might be the perfect time to sell a guy like that.

Now, if Coronado's not, it makes that harder to do if you're, trying to remain competitive in the short term. Yeah, and that's what we haven't discussed at all. And that's probably as big a, it's a, well, yeah, it's a huge piece of it. Oh, we're going to go young. They can't play NHL hockey. Yeah, like I said yesterday. I like the good young players I really like.

If they're young, that's a bonus, I guess. But if you could get those young ones that are really good. The ones that are good at hockey, not just young people. Yeah. Yeah. Well, and to be fair, like Connor Zerri had a really nice step forward after an injury riddled year prior. And he had some really weird COVID season start stops, Western League, HL, Western League injuries. Like, if he wants to be a part at some point, that'd be really helpful. Who else was I just thinking of?

Like, there's... These are the sorts of trades that sometimes can, you can hit home runs on. 100%. Because you would think, how do we possibly get these young players, well, you've got a draft or whatever? Well, sometimes these deals have. And we'll sit here sometimes. Remember how he became a blank, a member of this team. It was back however many years ago in that trade.

I thought like the Aginla thing, right? It was how do you get Jerome McGinland? Well, you traded away a stud who didn't want to be here and you hated to do it at the time. And no one really cared for the deal at the time and worked out okay. And I'm sure there's others like the Philip Forsberg deal. He's been unbelievable for Nashville. Well, how'd you get him? Well, you had Washington who felt they were really close and needed this.

A fourth liner. They needed Martin ERAT really, really bad. So they went out and got him. If you can find a contender that feels like they're one top four defensemen away, they'll start justifying moving a lot of valuable things that aren't going to help them win that year. That's his challenge. Craig's in terms of like, yeah, who are you going to talk to? Craig, we know you're listening and watching.

If you want to stop by the studios. Right there in Martin Loop. It's cold out. You're not golfing. Yeah, you're not golfing today. Return Rett's calls. He's available. What, kids are out of school in a couple hours?

They're already out. Coffee's on. Connie. Coffee's on. We're going to do the Pinder Report here in a moment, but before that, I just wanted to give you a heads up specifically. I'm not doing a bet way bet today. Good. I got you.

And Kikuchi's pitching today, so I'm sure Jack's throwing something to go. So that's good. Yeah. Maybe not tomorrow. Okay. What's today? Did something go wrong yesterday? Um, because you always, sometimes it's, you just need to kind of reset your focus and reset the dials.

Okay. Um, yeah, probably probably need to reset. Look at tag. You know what? Yesterday last night, I was sitting in my little officer at home and you could say as, uh, we're about to show you. I took a long, hard look in the mirror. Lone bet today. Toronto at Miami, Jose Burrios.

Last seven starts, a 1.81 ERA, but on the, other side Brian Hoing I believe is the guy's name it is a spot start he is a reliever he is not fared well in the limited starts that he's had try out a minus one and a half to get a little plus 105 and I'm putting it all together that's how confident I am and that's a fair ball might as well be comfortable and solair sends this one out to left center field it gets out there in a hurry and it cleared the wall Cooper left center drops in base hit. Well, he's going to have himself a four-hit day. Put together these good streaks. Up to middle and through a base hit for Joey

Wendell. That's in the right center and that's down. Nine-nothing lead. And that's going to sneak through there. Not done. Five-game stretch there. You hit just like that. Here it is. And it's popped up to Amaya at second base. He makes the catch. It's a Marlins win. Brian Hoeing, I believe, is the guy's name. It is a spot start. He is a reliever.

VP candidates. Called strike three. And he gets a strike out right there. Two outs. And a cold strike three. Ground ball after ground ball. No walks. Pounding the strike zone.

Strike one with every hitter. Efficient as you can imagine, he did as good as as good as we could ever imagine. It was awesome. Oh, my God. There's a lot to like there or dislike for your bet, but good work. Did one bet to go all in for labor. It's a bullpen day.

It's a bullpen day. It's a spot start. Just throw this guy out there. Ryan hoeing sounds like a gardening company. What are we talking about here? So join us at the end of the program today for Ryan Pinders, that we bet we bet to the day. We're going to play the hot hand and stay away from

the jays winning anything so bad and now 11 nothing uh that's baseball yeah been a long time since the blue jays uh have been shut out and it had social media explode last night to the tune of uh this guy we're they're firing the manager fire the manager fire the manager fire everybody get rid of everybody because this is unacceptable don maddingly's right there yeah fire up now do we know if is that happened we don't know i think there's a lot of people speculating today but no one that's actually attached to like, you know, we're an insider and majorly baseball said that. Yeah. And yet people keep retweeting the non-insiders speculation.

So I don't think it's happening, but there's a lot of people yelling for it. Because, you know, Vladdy can't hit the fastball. That's obviously the manager's fault, right? And he told Alec Manoa to not throw strikes, didn't he? Something like that. Yeah, something like that. You know what? It's when we say bet the responsible way, right?

Yeah. That's what we're talking about. Take a little breather if you need to do. These are recommendations. Do those later. Be smart. Be smart about it. Time for the Pinder Report of presentation of Village Honda.

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Stay tuned at the end for that. We'll start to. with Milan Luchich. The world's most intimidating power forward of the late, O's early tens. Oh, the flames have agreed with his agent, Jerry Johansson. Hey, go ahead, talk to people. Go ahead, Jerry.

Remember when Brad Shirley? Not allowed to talk to people. Milan Lujis. A lot to talk to people. Apparently, a little bit of interest in Vancouver. This is for our boy, Rick Dollywall from the Donnie and Dolly Show. I'm checking. That makes sense.

I'd be going home. They've just freed up all that cap space from OEL. He may as well burn that right away, right? Yeah. Doesn't feel like he's going to win, right? If you can pick. Maybe you want to go home, I guess. It's nice to go home too, isn't it?

Win or home is probably what he's thinking. You really want to, yeah. Go win. Go win. Hey, you know what? Luch, under all the circumstances, turned out okay. Because you were already kind of, you know,

with the whole James Neal thing. And Jimmy. The other thing, if Jimbo is still there, you might be able to suck a seventh out of these guys for negotiating rights, couldn't you? Yeah. I don't know. Let's move to either kinds of Flamesy news. Sean Monaghan's re-uped with the Montreal Canadians on a one-year deal, just under $2 million. The Flames, of course, packaged Monaghan with a first to take him and what once felt like a discount salary off their hands last year to make room for Nazim Khadry.

Now, of course, that wasn't necessarily ill-advised. Monaghan had another injury-plagued season. the player we thought could score 30 in his sleep every year has long since passed and it's really not his fault. It's injuries have really taken a toll. That's our last year ended too. There was a thought they could sell him at the deadline for more picks. He was hurt.

There's still a chance for that whole thing to work out, retro. There's still a chance for that whole thing to work out. Imagine if they hadn't traded them and they had seven million of free money and the first rounder. Yeah, but you sure would have missed Nazim Kodry against the Blackhawks down the stretch last year. Okay, other bio news, Zach Cassian and Patrick Nemeth put on waivers today by Arizona. It looks like their time's coming to an end. Why pay guys when you can not pay them, right, Arizona? Yeah.

He wants Zach Cassian. There's what are you going to be available? I don't know if I need. Five years ago? Yeah. Yeah. Let's go to baseball, lots of baseball, not a lot of hockey. Sorry, Rhett.

Might lose you. Here's the rumors of rumors. This is a former Leafs beat reporter, Howard Berger, multi-sport athlete or reporter, I should say, he's suggesting Don Mattingly is going to replace John Schneider. This is the smoke you were alluding to. No one near the team, though, suggesting this, which is probably crucial in this whole thing.

But that's how it works when you have your sources. Sources don't say, hey, I'm a source. Well, I hope this guy's in the source. I got loose lips. Don't sing chips. As for yesterday, it was indeed Luis Arise, the former twin who just hits, hits, hits, hits, hits, 102 hits this year.

That's more than the Yankees have from people not named Aaron Judd. It's an incredible year. He had five hits yesterday against the Jays. And yeah, was back over 400 for the season on his batting average. That feels like a number. I see it's this third five-hit game of...

I mean, you're hitting 400. You're going to have to have some monster days. He has more hits than the Yankees? Then all of them subtracting Aaron Judge's hits. The rest of the Yankees, eight of them, less hits than a rise. Which is how you hit 400, I bet. You've got to be good.

Okay, so we move from there. We love walk-offs, right? Yeah. There's special places for walk-offs, too. Here are the Giants against the divisional rival Padres at home. And you remember what's out just over the wall at right field? This will remind you the video here is we have, Yes, Stremsky.

Nothing like an extra innings, three-runs, three-runs, shot into McCovee Cove comeback victory. Good place to be there, yes. Baseball. Staying in California, they've got other good baseball players too, not just young Yazs, but here are the Los Angeles Angels leaders on both the hitting side and pitching side, just to see what's going on with the angels. Let's show the hitting stats first here.

Otani, Otani, Otani, Otani, Otani, Otani, Otany, Otany, oh my God. So he's leading them in on base, slugging, on Base plus logging hits runs stolen bases RBI's home runs an average also there's one other there I can't see what it says but yeah he's very good very good but what about their pitchers let's see there um ohani Otani Otani Otani Otani Otani Otani Otani Otani Otani that's ERA wins shutouts whip batting average against and innings not bad feels like he's going to make a little money this winter red free agent come on Jay's get him Pick them up.

Half billion. Let's go. 50 times 10. Pitch and hit. It has never played a playoff game. No. And he's on the same team as Mike Trout. These things do not seem possible, but it is baseball.

Odd. A few more for you. Let's go to minor league ball. This is big time minor league ball season red. And we love minor league ball. Why? Because we get crazy manager objections. We get hammered fans.

We get all kinds of amazing things. Let's start with our first minor league baseball clip of the day. Which I believe. Okay. Look at a jacked up this guy. He's twitching. Spinning. He's licking.

He's licking. He's biting. Chomping. Big twitch. Got him. Jacked up. 18 coffees before the inning. Haven't seen.

Jesus. He's got to get amped up to get that last strike. We'll stay there. I believe now we have a bit of an umpire player disagreement, rat. Oh, no. Yeah. Well, it ended well. At least,

at least made a close. this is awesome. So a player gets thrown from the game, goes to the dugout. Obviously, he set a magic warder, too, to get him tossed out of the game. So Metzker has been ejected here. Now Metzger is not done yet. He's going to do something here with a garbage can. Oh, he puts it right where the Empire stands.

And he put the garbage can behind the home plate. Because he's kind of relaying to the... You're trash. Yeah, that's what he's saying. Your garbage, your work has no doubt. In not so many words. That's what he's trying to get across there. I think you got this point across.

Yeah. And finally, fans at minor league games, you ever see the beer pyramids right where they stack up the cans or the snakes with the glasses? Had a great one going here until somebody. Oh. Jeez. All that work. The birds.

Throwing birds now. How's it about a scrap? That's tough. A hell of a shot. Do that stampede, you go home with a stuffy. You're that or a black eye. Maybe both. Last couple for you,

Rhett, shoveler sent us videos, your cats again. Remember you had the cats doing pottery yesterday. I love cats. We've got, the cats getting into some mischief. Now,

I don't know what this is, if this is flour in the kitchen or what, but your cat dumped its head in there. It looks like a hell demon. I don't even know. He's got a mustache. What the hell's happening?

Whiskers. Whiskers. Now, is that Memphis, Rhett? that got into the powder there. Oh, that's, that's the Memphis. Memphis is great. That's right.

Come on, Ryan. And then I think Memphis had kittens because Memphis was gray. Here are the kittens. They're getting in the way of rats workup. We got some video there. There's a lot of cat videos. Sorry, Rat. Look at the squats.

He's getting nice and low. That is your Pinder report for the, This allegedly 20th day of June. It can't be that late in June. How did we get here? This is dog days, eh? Yeah, this is a lot of this stuff from dog days. Brought to you by Village Honda.

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You'd be a bomber, A? Big boy. Yeah. You never said how you did. We were eight under, which with all the sandbaggers out there, not even close.

Lots of chaders. 16 under won it in like six degrees in rain and wind? Sure. Did you get anything? Fian one. What were the second? Any prizes? Uh, no.

There was, so we were not in the prizes. Any gifts? Uh, the steak. I got a steak. Which you said was awesome. Not the best steak. I have I heard of not the words, good steak.

Oh, you were saying it was really good. It was really good. Yeah. Yeah. Said it was a really good steak. It was a really good. But I'm a Frank. Frank tomorrow.

Frank tomorrow. Well, you said today. Yes. I know. And I got a text late last night. Really late for him because, as you know, Eastern time zone. True. Uh, apologetic.

Asked if he could do Wednesday. Had something on the go today. He's off to the draft right away here. He's in on the weekend there. There's a lot of guys because we've been kind of plotting our. strategy, I guess. We're in Nashville next week. Guys are going on Sunday.

It's like, dude, the draft. And leave and set. Holy full week. Book your IVs. Book your casket. A week in Nashville? I don't know. Oath, what are the oiler guys always have,

like, what are they, what are you doing there on Sunday? Do they even have a first round pick this year? I don't think. What are you doing down there? What are you guys doing down there? Frank said there's a big dinner on Sunday. Yeah, yeah.

It's good to be you guys. weren't invited. Guess not. You want to do your Betway bet? You're on the hiatus. I'll do my best here. I'm going to try to learn from you, Dean. I'm not doing it today.

Yesterday didn't go well for you, and I'm going to, I guess, try to learn from your mistakes. That would be great. Betting on the Js to be good when right now they are in a bad, bad way. Lewis or eyes had five hits yesterday. Yeah, we saw it. Betway bets. Get your Betway app on your phone play along. Bet the responsible way.

Have some fun with it. All right. And whatever, whatever Pinder has for you here, suggestions, recommendations. Don't put your mortgage on us now. Just have some fun.

So Arise, five hits yesterday, over one and a half today, total basis, a single double wins us, never mind to multiple singles, plus 125, like that number.

And Guerrero is in a bad, bad way. He's the cooler right now. Under a half hit. So no bases today. You can take a walk, can't get a hit, plus 145.

Doesn't feel good making these bets, but that's the way things's been going here. Arrise, Red Hot, Guerrero, ice cold. Those are your Betway bets of the day. There you go. Betway bets. Thank you to Betway, the official betting and gaming partner of Barnburner.

You're going for soup. Retro, you have, what plans do you have for this grade eight grad? Do you need to get a tux? Do you got to get haircut, shoe shine? I wasn't even going to go, so I'm completely unprepared, but somehow I'll pull it all together. Maybe I'll shave. Just leave the mustache. Shave everything else.

I think your kid would appreciate that. Maybe. Summers are tough times to pull the stash off. Feels like late, that's a late fall kind of deal. Oh, I guess. People don't recognize Pinder anymore.

That's where he's at. That is true. With the hair and the beard and that. He's running into people at social events. I'm going to show you my media pass. This is so good. Who are, uh, hi,

hi, hi, how are you? That's Ryan Pinder. Oh, oh, hey, Ryan. Look at this clean cut idiot.

I don't think. Who's that nerd? Is this a what? Who is this? Who are you? Is this a mid-life type of thing? It was. Now I just don't know where to take it.

So, yeah, for sure it was a mid-life thing. Because you were even kind of sculpting it. I've just kind of quit for a while. Yeah, you're going to get it to go today. If you get any more meetings canceled,

I'll go shave my beard today. I think you look great. Thanks, Dean. Yeah, I think you look great. So tomorrow on the show, Frank Seriavelli are an HL Insider. Good.

Yeah. We'll see what he's hearing. There's a lot of chatter out there about Noah Hanof and almost too much for there not to be something going on. Look, round ones in eight days. If you're going to turn them into a first rounder, like, there's your window. Yeah. And as is always the case, there's a lot of teams came close, not close enough. They got things to do.

Do you have a pick? Do you not need a pick? What do you need? There's, I think that there will be. We say this every year. And I don't know if it's necessarily wrong every year, but it does feel like there could be some things shaken. in the next week. Frank said it last week. There's two times a year this trades get made in this league. Deadline and a week ahead of the draft. Here we are. Retro, appreciate you, bud. Thanks, Dean.

We'll chat tomorrow, Rhett. That'll do it, everybody. Have a great one. We'll see you tomorrow.