Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Flames 2023/24 Season Recap + Frank Seravalli Joins The Show | FN Barn Burner - April 22nd, 2024

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

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Welcome to the program. It's a Monday. It's Gomer, it's warm, it's Pinder. It's Barne burner. It's the playoff edition, the big playoff edition of Barnburner here on Flames Nation, which happens every, you know, whenever you hear Markstrom, you hear all the players talking the other day. I really want to be in the playoffs. It'd be nice to be in the playoffs.

It'd be great to be in the playoffs. It's going to suck to watch the playoffs. Also, if you're either a fan or an observer of said Flames. It was kind of a shitty weekend watching all this playoff hockey. And it's like, look at the fun they're having in Winnipeg. Man, Vancouver was. Wow, my Vancouver loud and they were very excited. My goodness gracious.

So the worst seat in the house in Vancouver was like $323 at noon yesterday. Like, oh, okay. Fed best and enjoy it. Interesting, there were tickets available, I thought. That was one of those also stories that. Because they're charged $320 for shitty seats. That'd be why. How bad do you want it?

It's been nine years. It's been nine years, guys. It has been a long. And in Edmonton, you know, they'll be, you know, they'll be all wound tight for a game tonight. They'll be all very excited as well. So, uh, yeah, maybe less, um, good for them, build up for that.

But, uh, excited for, uh, everybody but us that gets to, uh, take part in the playoffs. Hey, you know, can give you a Sabres fan, a sense fan, an Arizona fan. There's worse spots to be, Dino. Okay, fair enough. Um, is there, still thinking, I can call the same if we've all over. No, Arizona's going to be pretty different. It's kind of, yeah, Arizona, I suppose.

I guess you've got to pack. Yeah, we're fairly confident there'll be a game here next year at the dome. It was one of those things that was kicked around. We were at the playoff draft the other night. We'll talk about it here momentarily, but we were at the playoff draft. And some people are saying, have we possibly seen the last playoff game at the Saddle Dome? There is a new building that is coming. They will take down the Saddle Dome at some point.

And the question is, will the flames be in a position to be back into the postseason in the next whatever it's going to be two two seasons two whatever it's going to be uh it's a tight turn friends feels yeah feels tight so did connor mac david score the last playoff goal yeah that's rigging dome what was it overtime yeah mm-hmm mm-hmm shit if in fact that tear that fucker down yeah just to tear it tear it down uh how everyone's weekend. How are we doing? We see your back in Belo.

There, right? It's just, it's in your loins, hey? It just keeps calling you back. Just keeps calling you back. Maybe tomorrow I'll want to settle down. Maybe tomorrow I'll just go to go. Buffalo is my home. How are things, buff?

Do, do, do, do you. Had to come back. Had to come back. Watch the middle child go out and whoop some ass last night. in the Williamsville North modified game. Barnberger four scored the third goal. They win three, two with four seconds left. Thank you very much.

And then a fight broke out next face off. Boys were wound up. Another funny story. So kids are playing school hockey, which is a great thing because everyone plays and it's tons of fun. It's fizzed. but it's actual hockey and you play other schools.

Anyway, so I hear, I get the report on Friday night that young James, Jaime, he had to put the Smackdown on a kid. There was a bit of a slash. There was a slash back and there was a bit of a slash exchange. And then maybe a few F bombs.

Maybe some verbal confrontation. Go to the rink last night. Come to find out, that's young Jay McKee's boy, Zander. Oh, Zander. So, Jaime and Zander. Or mistaken identity. Is that right?

Wow. Wow. It's shocking yet. Not at all shocking in a way. If the Primo brothers can fight, I mean, really. Yeah. Did we be surprised by anything? So was it a proud?

Did you reach out to cheese? I phoned Mr. McKee. He wasn't there either. I said, I have a funny story. I said, I want to get your kid's opinion on it because I'm sure he'll have a take. So I haven't heard what his kid had to say about it, but we had a nice chuckle. There you go.

Proud times indeed. Yeah, we had a night on Friday. It was the second annual Barn Burner playoff draft. We assembled ourselves at the Grey Eagle, Resort and Casino. And judging by the amount that we had seconds, I think some maybe had thirds, that the beef on a bun, mac and cheese, was a huge hit.

The baked potatoes we had in there as well. It was a big night over at the Grey Eagle. I know that Dane from origin went back for, he made a couple trips. And on the second trip had three beef on a bun sliders. you know, maybe you do that on round one or maybe you do a couple and you go back. Either way, that was the choice.

And not to say, you know, good partners in that, but maybe one of the bigwigs at McLeod Law was a pick fan of the mac and cheese. The number of trips and the amount on the plate on the multiple, the subsequent trips. Yeah, hey. Wanted some sides on his place? You just need, yeah, you need carbs.

You got a carb load for an event like that. We need a rain and the sides are so good. Yeah, you got to be ready for it. So thank you to the Grey Eagle Resort and Casino for having us there once again. A heck of a night, a heck of a night. Well, I mean, why would we blather on? Let's go back. Let's get a taste of the second annual going back Friday night.

Whatever you guys are ready. I'm Jack. We've made it. We're back. Gray Eagle Resort and Casino. It is the second annual Barnburner playoff draft. We're going to find a. just how smart or not smart people are.

Nice that you've decided to dress up for the event. It's a big night. Just usual thing from the closet? Flames and lightning. Did you get your mullet tightened up for the event? No, it's 5W30. God, nice, beautiful. Shall we?

Follow us. Let's go. Dino, do you see what I see at this table here? They are building a tower of empty Barnburner Blounts. Architecture for love it. Welcome guys. Appreciate it. It's a lot of nerves. If you had your infrared right now it just be like... Yeah, there's a lot of heat.

It'd be like a heat zone here for sure. Yeah. Usually by the time you go round one, round two, round three. Smooth sailing? Not tonight. Teams totally rattled. Totally rattled. It was a good. Falling. The Barnburn or blonde. Yeah, they're good. Pardon me?

I heard Hayskine? Oh, did it? I told you. I told you. I heard Hayeskin and Dean. Did he already pick up? Which means that's 10 push-ups or $100 for kids' sports. Did not expect Stuart Skinner here at our draft days before the playoffs began.

If everyone can stand and remove your hats, rent is going to sing the national anthem. Amazing. Join in, please. Please. Amazing grace how sweet love sounds. That one never gets old. It never gets old, buddy. And it ages.

Yeah, well, yeah, it could change. But it's once a winner, always a winner. So there you go. It was our second annual. I had a heck of a night. Now, Pindor, did you submit the photo that you had from the end of the night? the table, the carnage. I think Jack can pull it from one of the group chats,

but I'll find it and slide it over here. Yeah. Thank you. So round of thanks, around the horn, from the very, right at the top, McLeod Law, our events partners, they are involved in so much of what we do and so much of what we do, we couldn't do without them.

So we sure appreciate everybody. And you saw a few, that was the heat zone. That was where they were all, there was just so much mental. mental power going into the selections there. So thank you, McLeod Law as well. Pay Built, Jay and Paybilt back in once again as a presenting sponsor. Two years, they've been in both years.

Appreciate you, Jay Boy. Awesome. Big things coming from Paybilt. And I think big things between the two of us. It's going to be a great partnership moving forward. Another presenting sponsor. Also, Village Honda there's so much about what we do. They were defending champs.

The defending champs from a year ago, they donated the winnings back to kids sport. Anthony and the crew were all there once again and putting on a show. They, uh, it's, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a comfy spot for them. Hey, that's, they all seem very good. That's a very, very comfortable, natural place to be at a table, shit talking people, having a hell of a time, having a few drinks, laughing at each other, pretty good spot. Uh, and Betway, of course, our gaming partner, they showing a little bit of love to us, helping us out.

So lots of sponsorship support across the board. And from you, the Barneys for coming out, we had some returners, some new faces, but we had a heck of a night. There it is. Jeez. And I was going to say one of the thanks, obviously, to our buddies out in Strathmore,

origin brewing, who came out in full force, the Barnburner blondes were enjoyed by many. Many were enjoyed by many, yes. Oh, we had competing towers going. It was getting intense by the end. Yeah. And that doesn't, that's a pretty good, we didn't get a shot of the floor.

That's just, some of them, the towers would fall over and then there'd be some carnage on the floor and all of that. But apologies to the Grey Eagle, but they are going to get all the deposits, which might be significant. That's true. Yeah.

Yeah, that's true. I think they did. And yeah, of course, thank you to the Grey Eagle for putting on a great night for us. But, uh, I don't know. we didn't get it really because you would ask for it there, right, because it happens quickly, we didn't really get a chance to look at the teams and see who had,

who we would feel are the odds on favorite, who was strong or maybe who was not so strong. I guess we'll find out. We'll be able to, because they'll be, what are we using office pools or whatever? We'll use one of the websites to put this thing together. And we'll keep an eye on it.

We'll let you know just who did well. I like now there was a blockbuster deal. wasn't there that was taken early on round one now what was it the first pick of the second round or the last pick of the first round either way origin and mcloud law connecting in a blockbuster deal that saw a moving up the draft board and a donation made to kids sport so everyone's a winner couldn't turn down the massive donation to kidsport and i think it was the second rounder for like a fourth and a fifth and it ended up allowed mcclough to get some good players up top Kid Sport comes away looking like, well,

making some more money and the origin looks like princes and they got some more pixelate. They did, yeah, yeah. I don't know how in terms of winning and losing, I don't know how it's going to work out for origin, but hey, kids sport did great, so that's all that matters. And thank you to Kevin and everybody from Kidsport for being there, getting the board going for us, keeping track of things.

It's a good time. There was, there's going to be two teams particularly puckered tonight because the Oilers make their debut. And it was totally random, I believe, because I think we determined our order based on fundraising for kidsport, but we had the Grey Eagle table right after pay belt, and it was a snake draft,

so then you'd have pay belt right after the Grey Eagle. And these two tables were the biggest group of foaming oiler honks you've ever seen. And so it'd be like Warren Fogel's taken by one, and the other table's like, oh, God, no. Yeah. And then back the other, oh, Van der TEN, oh, Cody sees you. It was quite something.

Yeah, we should go through. Who would not have been taken? Derek Ryan, I think, is still available. Dylan Holloway, maybe. Right. I mean, they went deep. Jack Campbell available. Know that.

Jack Campbell is available. Yeah, Jack Campbell's available. Anyway, a heck of a night. Heck of a night. And I told you, Red, the anthem's always a winner. Scott Trust your boy. Yeah. I'm not sure what it's an anthem for, but absolutely.

Well, Flame season is done. Yeah. Establish that, yeah. Does that happen? Yeah. It's all over. They were,

because how does it usually work, retro? You have your final game. And then whether you're home or way. So if you're away, you get home. And then you have the meetings with your general manager and whatever else. And you clean out your locker and all that sort of thing. And then it's a big boozer, usually, right?

The team, the guys like to go out and have a, have a pint or 12. Nice meal. Yeah. Kibits a bit. And then. Stories. Talk about your training camp or how you're going to train all summer.

Yeah. Compare notes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then maybe.

And then off for the, uh, my understanding is there were a few boys out on the town having a heck of a time on Saturday as they should. Yeah. Having a time. Yeah. Might as well.

I don't know about as they should, but go ahead. Well, you know. ahead. Hey, just for taking the Rhett Warner advice. You're going to get together, share some memories with their friends, but that group will never be together again, Red.

Never. Let's hope. Anyway. I'm going to miss AJ Greer or what? I like Greer. I like Greer. He looks, I can't decide if it was the injury or if he's just that slow at the end of the year.

Injury. Let's go with a lot of guys that could play on the fourth line. I know they could bring him back. I just a little leery. Yeah, they have. And so too does the league. It feels like when you get down, if you've just completely been disappointed and let down by your own players that you've drafted or signed,

you might find one right before the season gets underway or on waivers. On waivers every year. With AJ Greer himself. Anyway, so some of the, everybody gets to sit down and they do a thing. Then they get to meet the media. we'll start with with Jacob Markstrom

I think was one of the more anticipated interviews now this goes back to Friday so some of this but it's our first chance to react to it so a snippet of the season ending media availability with Jacob Markstrom and you knew what was going to be called up it was going to be the remember you waived your trade you're no trade maybe going to Jersey and then you didn't go and then it was

and you were kind of upset and all of that Markstrom was kind of asked about that once again I think season just ended and you know we you know I saw Connie and you know I'll leave it at that how better sorry can I just follow up you you expressed some frustration with how things were handled up above you said earlier on how better could that have been handled in your mind well in my mind it could have been you know obviously you know I'm here now so it is all the rambling could have been not happening. That's kind of, you know, all the talks and all the stuff that was going on throughout the season.

And, you know, starting early in the season until the deadline, they pretty much could have been, you know, not happening. And just me focusing on hockey, that's what I would have appreciated it. Because, you know, obviously I'm still here. So it's, you know, to me to just be able to focus on the team and trying to play as good as I can, without any distractions that I think what I was, you know, mostly pointing at. So we, I'm just trying to, we were led to believe that at the time, this is, Markstrom does not want to have to talk about this stuff. He does not want this kind of distraction and seems to be the case.

He did not want it to be out there, did not want to have to answer questions about it, did not want to have to deal with it. Now you can, I guess, we can debate to what level that distraction is. You're making $6 million a year. You're in the National Hockey League. You're a goaltender. There's seemingly a lot of pressure built into that alone. If, in fact, people talking about you is the pressure you can't handle.

I don't know what that means. And beyond that, the fact that I'm still here, which way do you read that? Do you read that as I signed to be a flag. I want to be a flame. Look, I'm still here. Or the trade didn't get done. I'm still here. So it was, it was kind of a waste of time. I don't know. I'm very, I'm, I'm, I still don't know how this one goes. He did not want to talk about any, I don't blame him, I guess, but he didn't want to talk about anything that was said between he and Conroy. But I don't get the feeling that, uh, it's all bygones be bygones water under the bridge here between goalie and team. We also just say, man, wouldn't it be nice If players told us that they actually feel And didn't give us crappy, reloaded, regurgitated stock answers He hasn't.

No, I'm not crushing him for it. No, but I'm just saying, like, it'd be really easy to say, yeah, it didn't bug me, it's all good. He's being honest, says, you know what, I don't like here my name and trade rumors. I signed here with a no movement clause. Why are the trade rumors? Like, that's fair. Yeah.

And to be fair, it was like his play dipped around that time. He was great the month after that deal fell apart. So I don't know. I also don't know how this goes. He has the ability to control the entire process. He could also be incredibly helpful to the organization. Or he could say, you know what? Don't ask me again.

I'm staying here for the rest of this thing. Like, we don't know. I get the sense he wants to win and he's open to it. But I think if you get to the point where you're asking a player to wave and he says yes, probably a bit of frustration that it's not done. when he's yes I will go to new jersey cool deal's done no it's not like whew kind of a roller coaster I would interpret that's how things turned out I don't know how or why it didn't finish if the deal wasn't as good as they thought

and they were just and I'm talking about the flames and management sniffing around and I'm kind of I'm on both sides of the fence with this quit whining because it sounds like you're whining that you have stress in your life and it's like well is it that stress? but on the other hand, it's what he's side for. What pinder's point is, if you're doing a deal, then do the deal. Don't string a guy along. Don't call me when you're close on a deal.

Call me when it's done. Don't ask me to wave and then say it's not happening. Yeah. I would understand that if that's how it went. Yeah, I would understand that side of it. I don't need to hear that it was hard for him to deal with the, okay. I get that part, but I don't need to hear that it was so stressful that you can't perform and stuff.

And I'm not, I don't know that he's trying to say that. And I do like that he gives you an answer. Anyway, there's, there's, it's both sides of the coin, I think.

That's the thing that we, he's no warm fuzzy. He's pretty intense dude, right? That's the thing we don't have clarity on still, uh, is what exactly happened. Because you would think, well,

you would think that you're not going to the player until both sides have a deal that they've agreed on and are happy with, because that's the, final that's the final piece well we've got a guy it's got a no trade i don't think you start there and then start canvassing the league and going that way i think no but you go to sorry if to interrupt it i don't disagree with you but would you go to them when you've been approached and say would you consider and i'm just yeah yeah i'm pretty sure it was jersey would you go to them and say what about jersey and then try to find out i wouldn't until i knew that

because it was we're interested in marchroom you think but why do you have the conversation if what i'm saying is i would i would want to because then okay he says he'd wave let's talk deal okay we'll give you a fifth well shit that's not going to get it done i'd want to know that there's a deal okay there's some meat on that bone at the at the very least you're in the ballpark and so you'd go there okay then before we put finishing touches i guess you could go to the player but um again it's just the guess but i got a guess the deal was real close yeah i don't know what torpedoed it well all reports reports from insiders was that it was very close to the point where there were people

involved that thought it was done. And then it got nixed. It sounded like by Flames upper management at some point. So that that's that that there's a difference between moving your less than a year old child or one year old and your family to the other side of the continent having to deal with all that shit versus like, no, you're staying here. Those are two very different outcomes there. Upper management or ownership, I guess, right? Well, that's that's the upper as it gets because he's not hands off. Yeah. He's managing.

Yeah. And they're managing up. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe someday we'll know. Maybe someday we'll know. But to your point, I guess Ryan or whatever it was,

now what's the appetite? Do you do this time? It doesn't seem like he's happy. Like, would you, just reading into that question and interview, do you read that as a guy that's happy?

He wants to win. The other thing that he had in there, which everybody says, right? He was, he's, whenever I go on the ice, I want to win. So I want to win hockey games. And the other thing is, you're going to be sour for starters that you miss the playoffs. And, but, but to your point, I don't, I don't know that it's. And the other part of it is, if you really want to simplify it, Jacob, you can go out in public and say, I'm not accepting a trade anywhere.

I'll be here. Squash at all. Yeah, and I think context is missing here in the sense that you played us one answer to one question, and that question brought up something that he hadn't brought up on his own to that point. And he could have said that's all in the past, but he did the favor of answering the question of the media about where his headspace was at that point and how he feels about it. I don't know that if you said, Jacob, talk about your season, he would have brought that up at all. To say he's unhappy, I don't know that that's necessarily how I would portray it. Well, there's unhappy about the season, unhappy still about having to answer questions about this trade.

You know what I mean? It's not just, are you blanket statement, are you unhappy as a player that's someone that's living in Calgary playing for the flames? I think he's still clearly sour about how that trade thing went down. That's still, that still pisses him off. And we heard in the fall from people like Elliot that it's like, doesn't like having his name out there. just one of his things. Like, and, and then that was dead on. Yeah.

When you look back, the people in the fall saying Jacob Markham doesn't like his name on trade rumors, like that proved to be very correct. Yeah, he's a rare time. Elliot was, was on the money for him. Good job, Elliot. Another fella that was speaking was, was Nazim Codry. Had a hell of a year. Slow start, not ideal, but then was very consistent.

and was one of the best flames on the season. You could, the best season? I nominated him for that. You guys said Weger, yeah. You know, Coleman had his 30 goals and Cadry didn't, but this was, this was a hell of a year for Nazim, Codry. Now, and again, not mixed messages, but he was asked about, you're a veteran guy,

you signed here, now it looks like you're going to be a retool or rebuild whatever. So two answers. And again, maybe cherry picking. But this is kind of the two sides of obviously where Nazim Kodry sits. I chose to be here. I, you know, there was other options for me. I chose to be in Calgary. And, you know, I still feel that way, of course.

Obviously, like I mentioned, it's, you know, it was a frustrating season, you know, a disappointing one. But, you know, hopefully over the summertime, we can look to upgrade certain positions. and, you know, have another crack at it next summer. Well, I want to make the playoffs. I mean, that's, you know, I don't want to be getting another top 10 pick and the draft after this one. So, you know, and I don't think I'm the only one that feels that way.

You know, in terms of management, I feel like they understand the situation. They want to be competitive. So, there again, I'm a. happy to be in Calgary. He later on said, yeah, I'm fine with being being a leader. And if it's some young players that come in, he said, that was what this year was. I played with some young guys. I'm pretty good at it, actually. And then, but I, but I want to make the playoffs. I don't want another top 10 pick. We want to get into the playoffs, which is, it's two different things, unfortunately, I think. If you want to make the playoffs, I don't know that it happens in Calgary.

and he did choose Calgary and wants to be here, but I don't know that the two are, where do the two lines intersect and when? And not as the team is constructed at this point for sure. You can't tell me they're playoff bound if this is what they're. No, but I mean, this is where the whole what is Connie do things very important. You can take a lot of seconds and first and turn them into roster players right now.

You can go spend big money in free agency and bring in veterans that are going to help you next year, you can solidify areas of weakness. You've got cap space. I just don't know if it's prudent long term. I mean, if the owner wants to fast forward this, if Connie wants to fast forward this,

if the veterans like Weger and Kagry want to fast forward this and everyone is doing, okay, there's ways. And if you believe that you need Markstrom to do it. Sure. You keep him. That helps you a ton. That's an option here.

It's just, you know, there's some, that path's fraught with a lot of careful now. because if your pick's not in the top 10, you're giving it to Montreal. That could be a really big piece long term if that is a top 10 pick. Now, does top 10 include 10?

It does. Oh, good. One would be one, 10 would be 10, yes. Yeah. So they can do it. And we've seen other teams do this. I mean, you look at Vancouver, they've not had a lot of success lately,

and they were very active in free agency. They bring in Carson Sousy. They've had a ton of trades. They don't use the first they got for Bo Horvette to draft a player. They immediately turned it into Philipronic, who's been a huge part for them playing with Quinn Hughes all year. If you want to be impatient and you want to get there quickly, you can try to do that.

But it's kind of what they tried to do last year and this year. And it didn't work. And maybe you've seen enough from the likes of Zari Pospisal Coronado, and you believe that you've got some coming with Pellche and the young D you added at the deadline. and you think Miramanov is a top four or five defensemen in the NHL. I just, I think it's,

if it doesn't work, you're in the kind of mess you just tried to clean up, which is an old mediocre roster. Yeah. It does feel like that's what they've done in the past, is taken assets and tried to augment what they currently have to varying and mixed results, unfortunately. Yeah.

So, any, and again, I'm not, I say this, to I say as to Ryan all the time. Don't take what you hear in media press conferences as gospel. Don't take it home and tuck it under your pillow and sleep and cuddle with it. Because I think a lot of it's BS a lot of the time and it's what guys have to say. But I think that I think Codry's won some people over. Here's the thing. He's an honest guy.

And sometimes people don't like honesty. They can't handle it. Oh, the guy's an asshole. Well, he's telling you the way. He's telling you what he thinks. And he's telling you how he feels. And you may choose. to like it or not like it, but at least he's telling you where he's at.

He wants to make the playoffs. It's how I started the show today. This sucks, right? Everybody else is into the playoffs. And imagine if you're, that's your job. You're Markstrom, your cadre. You signed contracts to come here because you thought, okay, it's, it, right? Especially the options you have on the table.

You don't have 30 options, but this was one of the, the options that you have. And you chose to come here, hopefully to win. I don't think anybody signed up saying, I know it's going to be five years, unless Goddrow. I don't know what Goddrow was thinking when he signed in Columbus. But anyway, I don't know that you sign and think it's going to be five years

before we get into the playoffs, but I'm okay with that. So I don't know what, you're not going to say anything else, but at least it was honest from Codry. Yeah, I don't want to miss the playoffs again. Yeah, it was honest,

but it was also very professional answers where he's saying the right thing. And I want to make the playoffs. I don't know. that there's a guy whose reputations, you know, I think flipped as much as Nazim has from a year ago today till today. My opinion, I'm out of them is completely different. Like, what a great year. And he didn't say how we had lots of wins.

I would have a salary last summer. Yeah. Well, and look who we played with all year. It was young and experienced guys or guys that were having issues elsewhere. And that line consistently was their most dangerous offensively all year long. He helped usher Connor Zerian, Martin Pospis, into the NHL and they look like really important pieces thanks to his tutelage there.

Tutelage. The building of the roster is going to be, you know, are you playing any more interviews? Did Conroy have one? As he said things that we... Conroy went on for a half hour, right? And we don't have that kind of time, unfortunately. But no, it's, he said...

We'll be a Craig in Studio for an hour or two. That's probably the move here. Yeah, and regardless, we all know what he said. He wants, they want to rebuild and what was it? Fast. He had referenced the Dallas model, how you still have some older veteran players, a la Segan and Ben,

but you've also gotten younger because you've drafted well. And they've had a couple, they have, they've had a couple of very good drafts where they've been able to get guys like Ottinger and Stankov and Johnston and Rupert Hince. The difference here is they've had three pretty below average drafts, in my opinion,

the last three years. Yeah. The key there is you need to smash the draft. You need to have some incredible, remarkable drafts. And I don't, to your point, I don't think they've had that. Now, maybe you start this year, but that puts you down the road a little bit. Yeah. And maybe some of these guys pop.

Like I think William Stromgren's impressed at the H.L. level, there was a thought that pick was dead, but he's been pretty darn good. we don't know what a healthy Hansik looks like because he hasn't been this year that could be a huge part moving forward Hunter Bristavich jumps to the HL next year because he's a late birthday

there's a lot of guys that are close I don't know how high their ceilings are but yeah like the Dallas thing is important if you said oh geez you can't win if you have 20 million bucks tied in bad contracts and it's like Beninz again aren't bad players but they're not worth 19 and a half million or whatever they're collectively making more than that

I believe. But they're still considered a favorite. Like they won the West. You can survive a bad contractor to, but to your point, Dean, you've got to be absolutely awesome in your trades and especially in the draft. Yeah.

And the draft has to be bang on because you cannot afford to have any guys making any more than they need to. Yeah. Yeah. And that's why, like, well, Wyatt Johnston type is so crucial for them. And, you know, the season that Harley had on the back,

like these are guys on entry levels that are having awesome bleeping years. Stan Coven's going to be that for the next two years. Robertson is a superstar. Yeah, well, they're paying him now, but yes. But, you know, he's one of your homegrown guys. I don't know does Pellche? Who is the Jason Robertson of the- They don't have a Jason Robertson, right?

Like they don't have it. No. They don't have a Hayskinnan. Well, yeah, they don't have a Hayskinnan. They don't have a blue line. Yeah, but Hayskinin is a top five pick. I mean, that could be the guy you're drafting this summer or next or the summer roster. No question.

Just in terms and for Craig, I know what, don't hold his feet to the fire on it. He was asked about it. He's like, well, this is kind of what we want to do. And you can't, you're not going to exactly replicate it. But I get what he's trying to say. You've got some guys on the roster that are older, higher paid, and you want to try and surround them with some draft picks that of your, maybe a good free agent. I'll tell you what. the Joe Pavelski thing.

I was unsure when they, when they brought in Joe Pavelsky. Why, three years from him, and he's already 35, Dean. He's on his second contract since then. On his second, yeah, they just kept them. And he continues to,

continues to do it. Matt Duchyne's been an unreal fine for three million bucks. Yeah. Like, they do it well. Smart, smart, smart, smart. Tanev's a hell of an ad at the deadline for them. Yeah. Yeah.

And look, just my final thought on this whole thing, oh, we want to rebuild fast. So you don't want to have like a 15, your Buffalo thing, hey? Like everyone wants to rebuild fast. That is your dream scenario. The reality is it's not easy. And almost everything has to go right if you're going to rebuild fast or call it a retool.

Is it even a plan though? Sorry to interrupt you. Is rebuild fast or retool whatever you're calling it even a plan? Or is it just? It's a hope. It's a hope. Have your plan. And if all those picks turn out, oh, we retooled on the fly.

Yeah. Like if you get a kid that slides to you at eight or nine, this year that can play in the NHL in the next two years and top pair of defensemen. Yeah. And Hansick gets healthy and he's the pro body you want in the middle six on the wing. And you got Bristev in two years and Porre is apart. And Dustin Wolf proves to be a starter.

And you go out and free agency and Chris Tannov's market cratered. So you got him back with Shillington and you have a second pair. Like, sure. But we just said everything went right there. Let's acknowledge that. Right. Yeah, that's 10 things. Just go perfect.

Let's check in with our hot. from Daily Faceoff, DailyFaceoff.com. It's our buddy Frank Serra Valley, who is on the, is it the left coast? Because usually you're over on the, on the one side. You're kind of over there. And that, but now you're over here. As, uh, you're in Vancouver. You're at the at the Rogers thing last night watching the, uh, yeah, the, the Roxy.

Yeah, the Roxy. Yeah. Nice. Well done. I have a confession. All right. I've never been to the Roxy. Oh, Frank.

Now, is it still open? Yes. Yes. Okay. The Roxy never closes. No, but I wanted if it was one of those things where it's just beloved, but it got shut down because of too much fun. That can happen sometimes.

But, uh, so I know you were, uh, you were tweeting or Xing or whatever it is that we do. The, uh, the crowd looked electric and you've been in a lot of playoff buildings and you've seen cup finals and you've been in a situation where the fans are going to be wild, but it looked like it was a nine years to do that, but a special night for Canuck fans in Vancouver last night. It was. I would say really loud, not the loudest I've ever been in. It was good. The environment was great. It was everything you wanted to be if you are a Canucks player. And a lot of pen-up frustration and angst went into that game won. And so I'm looking at it now from a Canucks perspective, probably a huge sigh of relief.

You were down heading into the third period. You stayed patient. You got that win in game one. And not to say you ever take your foot off the gas, but I think at least now they can feel a little bit like, okay, we got that out of the way. Let's go. And those two goals in 12 seconds. God.

I was going to say, I was concerned in that third period because Rhett was on Friday or whatever day it was was kind of going through. I'm not sure you don't look at Nashville. here's some you get hot at the right time and you go down on the stretch there's some reasons why you can see Nashville doing this and as I'm watching this game and said yeah this is this is how they're going to do it they're going to be able to keep the Canucks in check and they may still be able to do so but I thought the third period was a far different story Vancouver asserted themselves and then yeah two goals and 12 seconds and the building exploded and that was I would think for brunette

and company that feels like a missed opportunity for sure 100%. I mean Look, you even gave them a free one from Soros, and that was the only one they had on the board heading into the third period. And you aren't able to get out of there with a win. Squandered opportunity for sure for Nashville. I like almost everything about that game from Vancouver's perspective.

It was different than the style that they want to play. They're not a dump and chase, chip and chase team. They are a possession monster. that loves to carry the puck. Vancouver, or sorry, Nashville forced Vancouver to do something different. And even with that and with trailing in the third period, their game didn't change. They didn't try and open it up and play a different way.

They were, it was a really mature game, if that makes sense. They showed me something in terms of learning how to be in that moment. And I think it's something that they've learned all year, as opposed to just being a playoff thing. How much of that is Rick talking? 95% of it. Yeah. He's been preaching since training camp, comfort in one goal games. Yeah. It's it, they're going to have to see more of it.

But it was some very early resiliency. There was, they were going to have to overcome a few things. Some teams, they, maybe they don't get those goals or they give up another couple. But, um, Demko made that one pad save. That was a massive save at that point. And you're in a one goal game, all saves. But he looked good. And, and you're right. I think that I don't know that you look back and say that game one in round one, that set the table for us on our path to a Stanley Cup. But there was, there was a banana peel there. If they, if they chose to slip on it, you go down one game to none. And then it's a lot of

question marks. You know what this market's like. Oh, sure. It clothes on itself. I mean, to get that out of the way, I think, was huge. And look, I'm going to take it a step further. I know, Ret, you said, hey, this Nashville team, you know, they could be a team that could pull off this round one win. I look at it and I

say, the Canucks have an opportunity now in front of them. This doesn't have to be an incredibly long series. This doesn't have to go the distance. You can make life easy on yourself. They're going to need to be dialed in. The attention to detail is going to need to be there. But

I think that's on the table for Vancouver if they want to play that way. What, uh, how do they line up front? I saw them switching a bit. They put the lot of line together a couple times as the game went later on. And that sort of has been the thing of Vancouver they've talked about is where is the right place for all these forwards? Because they brought in Lindholm to be something that I don't know they're really using him as. He's been a third line center. He was great last night, by the way.

Yeah. What do you need to do to unlock the offense there? I think maybe that's their blueprint. is, you know, watching last night, I mean, it's, it's imperfect, like Pew Souter playing with J.T. Miller. Like, I know Suter gets on the score sheet. But I, you know, I love the Lindholm-Joshua Garland line. Like, I think maybe for right now, that's the best place for Lindholm. I don't know that anyone really saw him as the 3C kind of coming in, but for someone who didn't play great down the stretch, for someone that could probably use a shot in the arm in terms of confidence.

Game one was the perfect start for Lindholm. He comes in, he gets that freebie from Soros just inside the blue line, but it's the forecheck on that second goal in the 12-second span. He crunches a guy. Garland makes a great play in his skates to grab the puck and then put it through the legs of the defender, right on the tape of Joshua who has a great sort of drag and places at top shelf. It's as pretty of a sequence as you could draw it up.

It's like 12 seconds of playoff hockey bottled up that I thought, you know, sort of perfectly encapsulated the night where the Canucks kind of had to grind through it. Joshua was a player, man. J.T. Miller was saying after the game that that guy doesn't even know how good he is. and it kind of feels like for someone that's 27 and is just sort of really starting to figure it out, he's built for this type of playoff game. He was a menace in the eyes of and in the face of the National Predators in game one. And look, you know, don't want to make any bold proclamations or declarations after one game,

but you have a night also where you win and J.T. Miller doesn't hit the score sheet. Elys Petterson doesn't hit the score sheet. That probably means pretty good things. Yeah, I was just going to say. And it's one game and we all, what else are we going to do? We do daily shows you're going to microanalyze. But when,

when they fail, as long as you're not microwaving. I mean, whatever, my conspiracy theory wife, she was sending me all sorts of, hey, did you notice that the, the microwave,

whatever has been high in the US. Oh, boy. What? Okay. All right. You're going to have to explain this. Do you know this? Do you know?

But that's what it is. No one, if they lose that game, then, well, where was Pedersen? Pedersen can't play in the play. Well,

what about J.T. Miller. You got all regular seasons. No one's talking about that. And yeah, with John, Miller was awesome last night. Millie,

I, again, I think we all kind of play general manager at times and you go back to when it was the Horvat or Miller, essentially, decision in Vancouver.

And they traded Horvat. And I, I don't even think the decision was that easy. I think it was we can't really move Miller and Horvat, we know we can get something for. Yeah, but it just like here's a guy who's maybe a bit of a malcontent. He's kind of a bitching and complaining.

It doesn't say, I don't know how well liked he is this whole thing. And then you've got your captain, you drafted this whole thing. I was, I was very unsure about essentially putting their, their stock into, into Miller.

But he has been, he has been dynamite but for for joshua because i feel like he scored against the flames at least once or twice i feel this year we've seen a bit of him it's like who is a fifth rounder from 2014 a toronto maple leaf fact i believe it was it was and by the way he wasn't signed by toronto and they traded him this is the kyle dubus era yeah dubus traded him to st louis for like nothing yeah go to st louis didn't they yeah it's the second ever playoff game he 2014 draft. These are the, this is what you need, and it's one game, but this is the type of stuff you need. And I'm with you. I think that people have been talking about whatever line he's been on in Vancouver for a while now. If, and not just for offensive contributions, but just they're, they're a handful. And what do we talk? We end up, we get real romantic when teams go on playoff runs. Third lines. That third line, that depth, that one, you know, those gritty guys down the roster that will come through when you need it. It's not inconsistened.

to think Vancouver's got a bit of that there. They do and it takes. So let's unpack that for a second because I think there's actually something instructive here for Calgary in terms of where they're heading and trying to find players because how many grades has Craig Conroy made in the last year where the response from experts has been, oh, well, that guy's only going to be a third pair of defense. that guy you know his upside is bottom six forward or whatever it might be and you look at that and you go oh well did he really win the trade and first off you don't know but second this time of year

reminds you that those guys still need to play you're only as a team is only as good as its weakest link and so if you've got a bottom six that can't compete or is getting its doors blown off every time they're on the ice, you're seeding a lot of ground and the ice is tilted during that stretch of time. So those players are important. And also, it takes belief that what, I forget which one of the prospects the flames got, or he's not even a prospect, but I guess it would be Miramano. He's 25, 26. 26, yeah. You don't know. It takes belief in. the people acquiring you to try and draw that out.

Remember Mir Madoff came in and like he said a bunch of sort of, I don't want to say preposterous, but he was like, I know I can be a top flight defenseman in this league. And we were just like, what was that? Dakota Joshua has never said that. But Rick Tocke has, he was all over him. I was here in training camp the day that Dakota Joshua was playing on the fifth line in preseason and he basically said to him, I know you scored 11 goals last year,

but guess what? Your spot on this team this year isn't guaranteed and you got to pick it up. So I asked Rick Talk it after the game last night, when did you start believing in the potential of Dakota Joshua? And he said, second I got here last year, he goes, I saw his body. I saw the way that he could play. And it was about trying to draw that out of him. So part of it is acquisition, part of it is coach that has belief and then part of it is half the time convincing the guy to gain the confidence to be that player that you think he might be able to. There's a lot to line up, but I think it says something about trying to mine pieces that no one really has talked. Like Dakota Joshua played at Ohio State and was a fifth round pick who was unsigned and traded.

that's about as free as it gets. Ryan, you were going to go in there. Were you going to drop in some? I mean, we can move on. We can move on to another series for sure. I've got a big, big J.T. Miller question, but it can go another time. It's evergreen.

It's only one game, but God, it feels like it's getting hot for the Leafs here with Nealander status up in the air. Yeah, the ultimate of question marks, not on PP1 today in the morning skate, uh, seems to be doubt. outful-ish, hard to make any proclamations this time of year. But you're right.

To me, you could go a million directions when talking about the Leafs. I think when you boil it down to its most simplest root and equation, it's this. I went back and looked it up this morning. In the Austin Matthews era, the Toronto Maple Leafs have played 51 playoff games. they have scored two or fewer goals in 47% of those games. Two or fewer. Yeah. You've got Matthews, Marner, Nylander, Tavaris.

And what's tough there is the Leafs draw Boston. Oh, that's the worst possible opponent that you could have got. Or if they get Tampa Bay. Oh, man, Tampa, that's just the worst. It feels like there's a lot of bad, options, right? Why not just be good? Yeah, you're going to have to beat some good teams along the way.

And they got behind early. What's to stop you from you being that team that other teams think about that way? They do just, and they can come back and win, but they feel as, if you believe they're a flawed hockey club, I think they're a good team. But they don't, they don't. And I didn't even mind Matthews the night. He was shooting the puck. He did kind of almost their best of their big dogs and he still didn't do anything. And where was Marner again?

Where is Marner? It's been a tough year. And he's got one year left on his deal. It did nothing to help silence the critics who say, here good in the regular season, pond hockey, lots of look at my moves. But when you get to the playoffs and things tighten up,

it's just not his wheelhouse. And then, you know, we're buddies with Trilliving and he likes his Ryan Reeves but the first goal, Ryan Reeves, goes out of position, ends up taking his own player out of the play, causing a two-on-one break and it's in the back and then that.

There's a lot there that just feels like this is not going to end well for the Leafs. And then all eyes are on the coach. The GM's not going anywhere yet. But the coach and Marner, now Nielander's got his contract. We know that Austin Matthews has got his contract. what kind of an offseason it could be.

Now, again, it's one game in, but they just don't. It feels better. Jeez, they don't, they just, but right, they don't seem to shape up or match well with just about any of the top teams in the East. So that would seem to be, to me, that you have your own issues that you need to sort out until you can get to be in that category. Yeah. And.

Yeah, I mean, look, not to place too fine a point on it, but there are 32 teams and 23 men on each roster. If my math is right, that's something like 736 players in the league. If we were to rank them all from 1 to 736, what part from 700 to 736 would Ryan Reeves fall into? Yep. Rhett, did you watch much of the Leafs in Boston from the other night? I'm curious your thoughts, because you put stock into chemistry

and what brings teams together. There's talent, but there's more to it than that. They got a lot of talent, but they sure seem to be missing the other elements that make. There's too much history with this group and with this core that they have with the Leafs for them to go and play the same way in game one. Again, they've had good. They won a series last year and they can have good games.

But we just talked about Vancouver. and Frank talked about that the dump in, forecheck, bang, simple play, but highly effective, looked like a playoff goal, but something that you can replicate and do over and do over and do over again and again and again. The Leafs don't play that way. They're high flying and they can make nice plays and they can do good things,

but to me they're a team that can't just, you can't replicate. And they aren't going to, they aren't going to shut teams down defensively. I don't think they have the guns to do that. And they're two fly by their seat of their pants offensively. When it works, it looks amazing. They got some of the most talented players in the game,

but they don't have a base for me that they can fall back to and build off and revert back to and go, okay, we're in a spot now. We lost game one, but we didn't play the right way. They didn't lose game one because they didn't play the right way, because I don't think they know how to play the right way or that they can. I hate their decor too, guys. Yeah, they're deep.

She didn't even get that's, that's why I said boil it down to the most simplest route, which is they're not built to defend and they definitely don't have the goaltending, so they have to score. How does a team with that much talent up front and that much top heaviness on their cap table get to the playoffs and all the second highest scoring team in the league this season? how do they get to the playoffs and not score year after year? And I feel like we see it all the time where if,

and we'll move on, where one team where maybe their toughness or their greatness where that's called into question. And then in game one of a series, they're going to come out like Max Domi did. We're not going to get pushed around. This is the new. And then you take a penalty and they get,

they score in the power play. And it's like, well, what was that worth? Now, okay, so you can, you can slash Marchand on the wrist, but now you're down to nothing. through whatever it was at that point where teams need to really kind of flex that muscle and show that they're not the same team that they always were and then it ends up biting them

in the ass. It was a, I mean, the game was drunk right from the start. Seven, six, Jets beat the abs in a game where you, how many goals? Are we 15, 920? What, I don't know what, I don't know what we learned or what you would expect to carry over. What did you see in game one between the Jets and avalanche and you're like, yeah, that, that's going to carry. over into game too because I have no idea. I've got it. I've got the exact answer for you. Hugely troubling for me how the Colorado Avalanche and Alexander Georgiev responded. Huge body language issues. You could tell heading into these playoffs that Jared Bednar was exasperated. He didn't know what to say about his goaltending in the last few weeks. We need more stops.

I mean, that's about as clear cut and clean as you're going to hear an NHL coach say it, let alone in March. It looks to me, and Rhett, I don't know if you watched if you're a body language expert or what you might be able to tell me, that looks to me like a team that doesn't trust its goalie. Yep. And it looks to me like a goalie that doesn't trust his team to defend properly. and that is a really, really poor combination. The numbers are no good. And to do it all on a team,

to have that kind of goaltending on a team that allows chances the way that they do because of the way that they play, I said before this is the worst stylistic matchup that the abs could have hoped for in round one. And to think that you had a 7-6 game, you scored six on Hellebuck and still lost. is mind blowing.

But the carryover from game to game is the body language because that isn't going to change and probably isn't going to evaporate. I didn't see enough that I was watching bits and pieces here and there, but I'm a massive, I look for body language. I look for goal celebration indications. I'm a huge believer in that stuff. And when Bullsards are frustrated with each other, but what you're bringing up, that's troubling.

So here's the easy fix you'd think is, okay, go play the other goalie. But he's been under the weather front. He didn't even dress. He sounds like you, Pender. Yeah, so he's been out drinking Barber de Blonde still 2 a.m. But Justice Anandin's had a really nice run this year, or however you want to say his name. You to challenge. Yeah.

Yeah, like the challenge being that justice. Like, it's an easy swap to make if he's healthy. He might not be. So you're going to throw this guy into the fire less than 100 percent. Or do you go another game with Goreyiv? and now you're down 02 potentially coming home? Like they scored six and lost. Can they play better defensively?

Like is it in their abilities, right? Well, it was in their ability, yes. It's not in their, it's not their, you're like, so allow me if I can explain this the right way. Stroke out. Yeah, that's what I feel like I'm doing. You kind of are whatever your first instinct is, right? And for the, the, the abs, their first instinct is.

Go. Yeah. Nathan McKinnon wheeling through the neutral zone at full speed. But can I, you might be done. If you're not, I'm going to interrupt you anyway. Is Bednar a good enough coach and have a good enough relationship with those guys to pull McKinnon in and McCar in and rantan in and go, listen, we're going to have to win different. We're going to have to play it.

That doesn't preclude you from. using the Jets and going and scoring goals, but you need to convince the rest of the team, you know, and when you're in a playoffs and when you're on a good team and you want to go on a long term, have a chance of the cup, you,

the coach has those conversations. I need you to get the rest of these guys to buy in to, we can't all be running gun, right? The answer to your question is, yes, he's a good enough coach. My other question to follow that would be, is it too late? It's a, yeah, I was going to say it's a shitty time for back to the drawing board.

It's not back to the drawing board. It's just, it's a reiteration of pause here, fellas. We're going to get our power plays. You're going to play a McCart. You're still going to get just offensive opportunities. Our goalie's struggling, whoever it is. Our goal is having a, he's having a, he's having a go here. And we can pile on it.

We can raise our eyebrows and we can have shitty body language or we can try and back them up. How can we back them up? Well, we're going to tight, we have to play tighter defense. We just do. We just do. It might go away from their natural instincts, and it might not even work.

But I don't know what your answer is. You can't continue doing the same shit. Yeah. Or I'm going to spin it the other way. Like, you're telling me if, how much went right for Winnipeg last night? Not really a ton.

Well, I mean, they're scored a lot. They gave up 46 shots on goal and won. And so this is my point. If your goalie, allows four on 10 and then later on in the game, it's seven on 22 and you only lose by one. Is the sky falling on your side or the other side? Like, it reminded me a game one between the Oilers and the flames two years ago in the Battle of Alberta. It's like, I don't know that Colorado doesn't have more room to be better than the Jets do. Like, I think it's an easy adjustment for Colorado,

whereas Winnipeg, it's like the one thing you have to trust is that Hullabuck's going to be great and he was not. Well, he has to. He had the better save percentage last night. I think you could argue it both ways. No one's saying Gorgiav is going to be better than Hellebuck. There was always going to be an edge in net for Winnipeg. But I mean, Colorado scored six and everyone's saying they're brutal. Like if you allow five, you win that.

I'm not saying you're brutal, but you still have to be able to shut them down. I don't think it's 7.6 the rest of the way this series. No, but I think that if you thought that the abs had a goalie issue coming in, Yeah. You're far more. I mean, you believe it even more now. And ordinarily,

I'm, I'm in that department. What do you do? Do you come back? I come back to Georgiev and just, it's a shorter leash. But I don't know. He had a bunch of wins in the regular season,

but he hasn't been. He played the most games in the league. He has, he's not been a guy that's evoked any kind of confidence. 897. Well, you keep going, sorry.

No, I was just going to say ordinarily, I'm going to go back to your, to your guy, but I don't know how convinced I am that he's their guy anyway. Like you said, Bednar was already there. Before the playoffs, he was started. He was done with this guy. But I think that's maybe the most troubling part from an Aves perspective is now you're, you know, at some point, you mentioned short leash. You potentially be going to Annen who has what?

15 games of NHL experience. why didn't you go out and get a competent backup? Why didn't you get, why is Jake Allen on the sports net panel yesterday instead of on your bench? Yeah. Yeah. It didn't cost you an arm and a leg and like now your season might be on the ropes because of it. I mean, his same percentage is goals against. Everything is way better than Georgiev's numbers.

I think it's, it's when, not if. Go ahead. Well, and the other side is you put Georgiev back in. What are the Jets thinking? It's not only lack of confidence for your own squad. They feel good. The other squad's going. Right.

Yes. But to your point, Ryan, I don't know. Obviously, the Jets are feeling good, but they gave up, they gave up six. And they had two and three goal leads and couldn't hang on. So how do they feel? Or who is more or less confident and who has room to grow? I still feel like if I'm Winnipeg, I feel like that we're not giving up six again. Colorado's great, but we're not giving up six.

again. And if you're Colorado, hey, we're not giving up seven again. And look, we scored six on this guy. I would imagine both coaches are saying, throw that tape out the window. Let's restart here. Just a reminder that the Jets are four and O against the Aves this year. I like the Jets against the AIM. I think the Jets are a hell of a team.

So I'm not. Do we really care that much of a season series? Like, do you? When it comes to playoffs, we've seen in this case, I do. Well, okay. But if, so you'd be stunned if Toronto wins this series? No, but what I'm saying is the, including last, last night's game one, the Canucks are now four and no against the Preds this year. And I put almost zero stock in that.

Yeah. Yeah. But this one, Jets and abs, I do because there's, I think there's a clear stylistic problem for the for the abs and the way they play. they're playing against game one notwithstanding the best defensive team in the league with the best goalie in the league. And just further, did the Leafs not lose to Boston every game? Yeah, they got stopped. So is it everything and anything?

No, but I think there are circumstances where it's like Frank's saying. Sometimes it means nothing. Sometimes it means everything. Well, no, by the end of the series, if it meant anything, right? Because if Colorado wins it, it's like, who the fuck cares about the season. We'll know by the end of the series. No,

but I mean, you could add that in for us. Well, it's just look, it's one game and everyone, the urge to jump to conclusions is very strong. We talked about it. You can't help it feel like we know how these series are going to go at this point.

We don't. No, we don't, but let me remind you battle of Alberta a couple years ago when you asked, because you brought it up. Yeah. It's, it's going to be a long series until it isn't.

Yeah. And to my point, it was the team. that lost game one that won that short series that year. And if you would ask people after game one, you would have said, oh God, the flames are rolling here.

But you also would have said, we're not going to see another game like that. And then you saw one, what, two nights later or whatever it was. They never got close to 15 goals again. What was game two, dude?

Like four or five goals? I don't know. Game two was off the charts. It was like same thing. Yeah. How many goals were there? I was there. I was there too.

It was ridiculous. And then they lost it. And the Oilers ran them out of the race. by the time it was done. We all, we all went into that saying, oh, we'll never see that game again. And that's exactly what it was. I think both goalies got pulled in that game. Yeah, it was no Bueno.

Oh, I mean, you know what? It was one of those things, too. I think the flames had that lead. And then Marks, or Backland has a breakaway and kind of dumps it into the corner. If he scores that, I still said Smith would have got, would have got, gets hooked. And you may not have ever seen him again. But instead, who scored that goal from Red Deer on Smith? Rass was later in the series, Rasmus Anderson.

in Edmondson. Yeah, that was, anyway, speaking of the Oilers, tonight, it's the Kings. I don't have a whole lot of, you talk about

history being a dictator. The Oilers have them in back-to-back years in the playoffs. History is not a dictator. I don't feel like, I don't like the King's chances in this series,

regardless of whether Evander Kane is playing or not. They have to be good because I'm in at a pool. You're in a pool, yeah, where you put a, You buy a bottle of booze, and whoever spends the most on the bottle of booze gets to pick first, and I'm stuck with frickin L.A.

So L.A., but you didn't actually buy the bottle true to form, right? Hey, right? Hey, right. Just, I'll send him the receipt. Old receipts. They said he's generous when you see him in person. But that's what it is. He is.

Yeah. Yeah. What are the kings? What kind of odds do you have on them here? What are the kings? They are in trouble. Yeah. I agree.

Um, let's see what, you know how I mentioned with the Canucks that I think they learned a lot this year. Let's see what the Oilers have learned over three years worth of playoff runs. Because- Coach, both sides. Yeah, but what I would say is the Oilers have done some stupid stuff. Seven games the first year, six games last year, both times they lost the first game of the series, then had another game in the series that they just absolutely coughed away for no reason. Show everyone that you've made strides. Show everyone that you've got a business-like approach and you're learning because

this is another team that doesn't have to have a long series that can just add wear and tear for no reason. And so from the LA perspective, you've got to show you've learned, you had some chances to bear the Oilers and didn't in these series past, right? You've had leads that expired late. You had a three, a two-nothing series lead in one or a three-one series lead in one. Like, they've, I'm not saying they have the better roster, but we can't just say one-sides learning from their experiences.

Like, what do the Kings have to do here? I'm, I think the hardest part for me is squinting real hard and trying to find a path for the Kings to win. Pierre Luke Dubois. Yeah, that's it. Centering the fourth line today to start. I'm not saying that that's, he's going to. I'm saying if you wanted a difference maker or someone that was supposed to be a difference maker,

that's who they went out and got to help them get through Edmonton and these types of series. I don't know that it happens. I would say that there's enough history this season to suggest that that won't happen. He has all the talent in the world. He has physical gifts and skills that 96% of this league doesn't. he has the consistency of a Boeing airplane. I mean, he's, you never really know what you're going to get,

and when it lands, you might want to stand up and clap. A lot of flying industry. Taking a hit here. 99.99% of these things land all the wheels. I know, I'm kidding. It's rough. I was trying to think of something on the fly. But he doesn't,

he's infuriating probably to coach and to be on his team because you see it every day and you're like, this guy could be amazing and he doesn't deliver. And now what's interesting is Jim Hiller is trying to really spread out his lineup and spread the wealth. I guess call it their fourth line. I don't know that the number matters, but it's byfield with Dubois today, to start at least,

two large bodies with tons of skill. that they are, they're trying to, instead of go top-heavy, come at the oilers in waves. And they may have to adjust. Maybe that's another one of their bets that they're making is that our four lines as constructed can beat our third and fourth can beat their third and fourth. And then we'll see what happens on a coin flip with the top two. I'll say this. There's no many fourth lines with Pierlick-Dubour and Quentin Byfield on the league. Like, they're deepest hell if that's how they're going to play this thing.

Are they? Well, I mean, it's not really a fourth line. No, but they got Fiala on the third line. They got Arvinson and Denno on the second line. And they got Copa Tampi on the top line. Like, that's eight pretty good players that they're spread over four. Right. Let me ask you something about this series.

If you were in a dressing room and Evander Kane before the series even starts, comes out to the media and says, hey, you know, questionable for game one, I've got a sports hernia. I've been playing with it all year. That's what he, right? Like essentially, that's what he said. Yeah, but I guess, remember there was also that period of time

where they scratched him and the coach said, oh yeah, he's dealing with a nagging injury. And then Kane came out and blew it up in the coach's face and said, no, no, like I'm ready to play and he didn't play me. I'd just say if you think you're hurt, let be hurt and don't show up. Let's, well, I guess my point is,

I don't want any excuses in a dressing room going into the playoffs. Isn't that exactly what he just did to try and save himself? Hey, if I don't play well, it's because I have a sports hernia. 100%. He's selling out. That's a sellout. That's a cop out.

Whatever you want to call it. I would be livid. He also this year spun his bucket before a fight with Brendan Dylan and took the extra two minutes with Dylan and said, yeah, I wasn't going to play much anyway, so I figured the extra two wouldn't hurt. I mean, he hasn't been boring in the media. No, he's not. I guess is it really out of character for a guy that World Welcomes in three prior

NHL markets that he would be a little bit, you know, me first, not the team first? I would say it's exactly on brand. Yep. Yeah. But they're sick of them. You knew what you were getting when you got him. Yeah. And here's the problem with all of them.

this here's the problem with all this for the oilers they actually need him remember how good he was two years ago in the playoffs he led he tied for the league lead in goals 13 goals and 15 games and the oilers only had eight of 16 wins yeah and it's interesting somebody's in the chat and it was two weeks ago when he and cori perrier having a shouting match on the bench and We know how we all feel about Cory Perry, but, I mean, that guy's, I want to go to war with. He's a Hall of Famer, yeah. And if he's questioning something that you're doing, I think I'd probably put in my, putting my faith in Cory Perry.

We've lost Frank. He's all, are you there? Yeah, he's going. He's going. He looks like a toilet. He kind of, I mean, it was. Yeah, I was going to ask, unfortunately. He must be in, it's, it looks like some sort of a broad.

Cast Studio because he's got... Yeah, that's the Secarus and Price Studio, if I saw the angle. And that's at their wall center in downtown Vancouver. We got a man. This is the Warner Studio. Yeah, there's the Warner Studio. Yeah, that was not good. No, you're okay.

We had your audio the whole time. We're just the video dropped. So you're what, Secarus and Price Studios in Vancouver. Is that where it is? Yeah, they put me in the closet, though. I feel like I'm actually in a urinal. People wanted if maybe you were kind of sitting backwards on a turlet, kind of had your laptop on the top of the tank there.

I wish. At least I would be productive then. Okay, fair enough. So what's off day for the... We lost at its finest. Stop it. It's an off day for the Canucks and Predators. What's up today?

What's up tonight? Get some sushi. Going to visit our friends at Greta Bar. Greta Bar, Vancouver tonight. If you live in Van, if you're a Flames fan and live in Van for whatever reason, come on down seven o'clock Pacific time. There you go.

the playoff action and I'll buy you a beer. Yeah, Flamescans. I'd love to watch the Oilers in Vancouver. That's just fun of dream. Just a, yeah. Or you could stay at home on a Monday and go to bed early. I mean, your choice. That's right. That's right. Do what Pinder would do. So will you be going to Nashville for games three and four? I will. All right. I mean,

zero fun will be had in Nashville on a Saturday night with no game to cover. That's why he's not going to the Roxy. He's saving his bullets for Nashville. He's got great. He'll be fine. I'm kind of on a little hiatus from alcohol. Not even by design. No, what is it that gets you crying? You start crying with the fireball.

Fireball shots, yeah. Yeah, I still love fireball, though. Yeah. Emotional. I'm an emotional guy. You are for me. All that cinema.

Yeah. We appreciate you, Frank. We might, well, we'll see how it goes. Maybe later this week when you get to Nashville, we might like to, well,

maybe have a visit. See how I get late. Rhett, come on down from Buffalo. You want to spend on the weekend? You're not going to be in Philly next week? Why are you coming? Yeah. Tuesday, I'm driving to Philly.

Next week. I mean, I guess between the Sabres and Flames, why would you need to worry about your schedule and playoffs? Thanks, Frank. Sorry. That was too soon. It's all right. But I'm actually going to stop in Salt Lake this week, too.

I'm going to catch up with new Utah owner, Ryan Smith. People like the show in Shown. People never been to Salt Lake. Has anyone driven through? They've got some nice temples. I hear there's actually some good breweries, which surprised me. So I'm open-minded.

Are you? Yeah. For the temples or? The breweries, yeah. Anything. He's open for anything. Got it. That's true. I'm not really good.

Thank you, Frank. Appreciate you. See, boys. Be in touch. There you go. Frank Sarvelli. With Daily with Daily. with Daily Faceoff. Reminder, the DFO Playoff Parlay Challenge is on. Go to the website,

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people always bitch oh we're talking about the Leafs all the time oh now we're talking about the oilers all the time well maybe you can just make the playoffs and we'll be talking about somebody else I suppose I think the Jets Colorado one is interesting because they're there's both sides to everything I feel very comfortable that Boston made a statement

against the Leafs I thought that Vancouver did a hell of a job bouncing backs against Nashville I think they've set themselves up to continue that. I have no idea what. No clue. Yeah, I'm not quite at the whole look at all Winnipeg's accomplished yet.

It's, if Colorado with their road record that you've noted, Dean splits and coming home, that's a huge win for them. Yeah. And it's a sloppy of hockey that, what are you basing this off of? Yes,

the jets scored seven and Georgiev was the shits. But we were, that's not a surprise. The bigger surprise is that the jets gave up six and could barely hang on. to it. And in a way, that was almost the least surprising thing as I was watching the third period and the jets were up, I think it was by three. And I just, this lead is not safe. No. The avalanche will, they can come back on you. And then it was a two goal and then it was one goal

with however much they're just lucky that there was they did, abs ran out of time is all that happened. They just keep scoring. So that was the, that was the only thing that maybe wasn't surprising. It's just that they were going to have to have to do that. Yeah, I don't know what you do in that. If Anandin's healthy, I think it's easy. It's complicated because he's not. Yeah. And it might be easy, but that might not be in it.

You know what I mean? It's an answer to taking Georgian about it doesn't mean that I don't have a clue if the guy's ready to play NHL style playoff hockey or not. Yeah. But I guess he's been the better guy last third of the year by a significant margin. Like, it's, I think if he had a better finish, he might even have started last night. But for a team like that, you'd love to have a better option. I'd say the same thing about Eminton, right?

Like, how are you the second last year of dry saddle McDavid? How is Stuart Skinner and Calvin Pickard who's been a three-his whole career? Like, how is that what you're going to win a cup with? Like, maybe they can do it. And Colorado did it with Kemper a couple of years ago. But like, there are some great teams that do not have stars in net. Service, Big Share is back for the six years. It's your chance to win a million bucks just by saving money.

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you can't yell at you. You have to deal with all the other stuff. Yeah. Saw some soccer? Soccer playing kids are playing soccer. Yeah. Big soccer hawks. Love the cavalry.

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the season has been over for a few days to the Calgary Flames as the playoffs have ramped up. That doesn't mean there isn't, well, things, I guess. Yeah, there are a lot of contract and salary cap things to talk about

and a draft slot that will probably get solidified in round two when we finally do the draft lottery, which sounds like the first week of May. So, yeah, it's not over for the first week of May. So, yeah, it's not over for the, flames. This is in fact probably just the beginning of some interesting decisions. What do you do with Kuzmiko? What do you do with Sharon Govich?

What do you do with Manjik Pani's contract? Where are you picking? Who do you take? Lots of fat to chew on for the next two months, team. Those are all questions. As for the games on the ice, what a scene in Winnipeg yesterday. The zaniest of the first games we've seen, listen to the chant in Winnipeg, Dino, as the Jets are up, seven goals on 22 shots against

Giorgio. It's a hit from Colton, but Colton ends up down. The chance to pull the goalie here in Winnipe. Is Manson with a shot? Hit a potty in front. Is that helpful? Well, Jets fans trying to help the abs. You should pull your goalie because this guy's straight shit.

Western Canadians always helpful. They did listen and the abs would score with an empty net behind them. So very kind of the Winnipeggers to make that closer. I was going to say, up by three with nine to play, and you have to white knuckle it for a win. Don't get too cocky, but quite a day. Jeez. Jets got seven. That's a lot, right?

Because who even the New York Jets haven't put up seven points in the last 13 years in the playoffs. Oh, dear. Oh. The Milfinder taking some strays here, I feel like. I love it. Yeah. Maybe. Knox's first playoff game since Michael Furland was in the building at Roger.

Arena. How about that? 3,286 days, Rhett. Wow. Do you remember where you were for that Flames-Kinux series where Ferkland and Biesca went at it or, you know, the other properly pronounced guys? I liked that. The Wolf Firland was looking good at that point, wasn't he? It really was. It's a while. And yeah, if you wanted to know who's waited longer for a home game in the NHL, only these two franchises. Buffalo, yeah, tough. Arizona, maybe tougher. that's going to be a while. Dean, do you have a forecast on the next Coyote's home game? I do not. No.

2030. So now that series, how long ago was it for the Canucks? I believe nine years ago. Nine. That's right. Thank you. Tonight, what are we looking at? Let's have some fun.

Four games. We open up two of the West series that have not yet begun, First, let's see how Toronto handles taking on all the water that the SS Leafs did two days ago. Oof, ugly start, as bad as it could be right into the scar tissue with the brunes. Nealander's availability very much up in question. Islanders actually were very good against Carolina. I thought the better team through 40 minutes, they'll try to steal home ice and get a win and rally tonight. And then we get the healthy Golden Knights or something closer to the healthy Golden Knights playing the Stars in Dallas,

while the Kings and Oilers open in Edmonton. Good slight. Anyone else have fond memories of the old Smythe division when the flames were playing out in L.A. and you're a young kid. It was almost, I still had a black and white TV at that time. Who was calling the games back then, boom, boom.

Don Whitman. Don Whitman. Yeah, Don Whitman would have been calling the games. They were not super memorable times. If you were a Jets fan in the Smyth going against the flames of the Oilers, Not a lot of fun was had. What was it?

Like a decade where only the flames and Oilers came out of the West? Pretty much. In the Stanley Cup? Yeah. Tough go. Tough go. Tough go. Yeah.

From that Isler's dynasty, right through to the Gretzky less win for the Oilers. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Back to Willie Nealander. Here's what we know was on the ice today. There's a photo. There's proof.

That's William Nealder, someone that looks like him. But. Head coach, Sheldon Keith, not quite there yet. We'll see how he feels here the rest of the day and make a decision. What happened to Young We will. Well, he played the last game of the regular season, including a long shift, I think, as they tried to win a game late or something, but sounds like he woke up on Thursday. Someone was tight and not right.

But hasn't played well down the stretch. I believe that the number is. Or just in 11 games. Was that how much it was? Or in the last game as opposed to playoff. game. Yeah. Now how much he was dealing with at that point versus what transpired between the end of the season where he played right to the end?

We don't know. It's that time of year where you're not going to learn a lot of things about injuries. I feel like since he got the contract, he's maybe slow. How many points do you think he finished with this year? 60. 70. Dean, do you want to take a guess? Who are we talking about?

Neil Miller. Well, he was almost 100, wouldn't it? That's right. 98. So, I mean, it was a slower stretch for him, no doubt. Still a dynamic impact maker they need. That's a huge piece missing for a team that wants to spread offense over a couple lines. It really is.

Kail McCar are still doing things, guys. This is wild. Yesterday, more points. How about look at the list he's on here. How about Siri, name the best defensemen that have ever played the sport. This is the fewest games to 50 career assists in the playoffs. or 59 McKinnis 61, Macar 62, Leach 63, coffee 67, Ray Bork 70.

Yeah, it's, um, holy. We're watching one of the greatest ever. Yes. And I, I'm shocked if he's, man, he's played that many games already. A couple of years ago. God, how many playoff games is this guy going to play in his career? Good God, almighty. And, uh, sorry, Sandus O's Lynch.

Yeah. He passed you and now becomes the highest scoring defenseman ever. In his mid-20s. In the Nordic Avalanche franchise. Yeah. Took him about nine minutes. What about those cheating, stinking Vegas Golden Knights, Rhett? What's happening tonight with Mark Stone?

Oh, look at this from Emily Kaplan of ESPN, I believe. Yeah, there is an expectation he'll play tonight. Talk to several players in front office executives about it while jokes fly about cat circumvention. Everyone agrees. Nothing can or will change. the next CBA, aka the loopholes are there for everyone to exploit. If a guy actually is hurt, yes, you can go replace his salary with a player,

and they can all play in the playoffs if healthy. I don't think the stars give a damn. That could be a really good series, by the way. Did anyone take Vegas in our picks last week? I'm trying to remember. No, I think that was one of our few consensus picks. the other thing about sitting someone like that is you have to sit him right and getting to the playoffs was not exactly a slam dunk for Vegas there for a stretch of games like probably could

have you if if stone wasn't injured or whatever and even with Tampa Bay you go back a few years ago you're oh they've put uh kutra up if you want to roll the dice and not play with kutra for the last month or whatever of your season then that's you know i i get it it's it's it's people get wound up, but stuff. Go ahead. Go ahead. HL playoffs are set. Here's what the Calgary Ranglers are looking at, fellas.

And the whole bracket, it's a big one. All the divisions, different rules. Classic H.L. Bottom left is the Pacific Division. One seed, Coachella Valley has the buy end of the second round. Everyone else plays the best of three in one city. There'll be Calgary in Tucson. And then they'll reseed after this.

So they don't even know who they'll face necessarily. Although if Calgary wins, they will be the lowest seeded, so they will get Coachella Valley. Okay. Big old bracket there. Yeah. It's a lot, but I get it. You know, you can't have the lines to,

there's no, right? You got to just. Yeah, if the Shiffa wants to train someone on a bracket, send them to the H.L. There's a lot of moving parts there. They did a good job there. Well done. What's Sedano Chara been doing, guys?

You think watching the Bruins? No, he's running marathons. Look at this crazy asshole. Zadano Chara continues his marathon journey with a three hour, 11 minute, and four second run in London. This is from the weekend. So he's run the Boston Marathon. He ran a 50K race, Jackson Hole Marathon, Maine Marathon, Bay State Marathon,

New York City Marathon, Palm Beach's Marathon, Houston Marathon, another Boston Marathon. And yes, the London Marathon, he just completed. What? Dean. He machine. God, it's amazing. Dean, I just want, I want, to know that there's a lot of research out there that says this long distance running.

It's not good for you. It's not good for you, right? Oh, okay. God. Run two marathons in a month, three and five or six weeks or whatever it was. Yeah, but he's got long, stilty legs. It's like, like, you weighs more and all that impact on the joints. Half the strides you would have to take.

Oh, I'd have so many strides, so many steps. That's the only thing that's holding me back. The only thing that's holding me back. is my short gate. Oof. A little different. A little bit. Got a men's league fight for you.

Let's take a look. See what happens. Officials trying to separate the parties. And bang. You can't do that, friend. Cross check the ref in the face. Oh, Rhett. I,

sometimes. What's the scoreboard they got going here? Like, what is that left doing that he has earned that? Nothing you can do. Can earn that in the rulebook that I've found? No, but there has to be some sort of. I'm going to go aside with the,

this player is got a wing. I don't know. Some of these reps nowadays, Ryan, he can't even talk to him. Can't even talk to him. Well, he didn't talk to him. He just punched him right in the mouth. I was going to say,

now that he's cross-checked him in the head, is he open for a conversation? Let's work this out. Come on. Broncos. Oh, okay, first off, Calvary FC, on the weekend. They started in Forge. Stink and Forge is tough. They lose 2-1 there. Ottawa, probably one of the next best teams to face outside of Calgary in this whole league.

Down 1-0 late, boys. Look at the time. There's only 90 minutes. Gabs in the white from Schoom this time. Five cavalry players in the box. Running on, it's a side flick into the back of the net. Eventually credited as an own goal. That tied it up for Calorie in the net. 90th minute. Wow. Big point for the Cavs. They come home with a draw and a loss. They're two regular season games. They're in action. Tomorrow night, it is not league played as the Canadian championship. Hey, Rhett. Where are the fans? That's in Ottawa, so I don't know. I can't speak to there. Okay, well, that thing, good. That just reiterates that everyone in Ottawa is a loser

and an idiot. Carry on. Finally confirmed. Yeah, there you are. And it is going to be 16 degrees in sunny tomorrow. And how about this? Pick your price for Calvary versus Vancouver FC Canadian Championship. If they win, they'll get the white caps dean. That's a good thing. An MLS club will come to Calgary if they can beat Vancouver FC tomorrow,

free parking, proceeds to local soccer. And yeah, pick your price. That's a win. Let's go. Look, that. See, there. Does that look fun? beautiful hooligans the hooligans are just

the whole lot of the side of that now the broncos unveiled a new jersey typically these NFL jersey things are just they don't change anything look at our boy front and center dean who is it well it's Alex singleton it's Alex singleton the former stampeter what a beauty I was hoping when you said new jerseys that it was they were going to use the the swift current Broncos fish the, uh, yeah, the,

uh, slew sharks. Slew sharks. Wow. They do, uh, they may be some tweaks there for sure, but it definitely is the colors they've always used. These NFL jerseys,

they change them, they still look the same. Yeah. I mean, it's, we have little dots inside the numbers. Cool. It's,

you look like the Broncos. Yeah. Well, good for them. Good for Alex is really what this is all about. Yeah. Love you, Alex. Most or boy.

That boy, Alex. Keep punching. Keep punching, Alex. Speaking of keep, punch and going down under. Tim Dutniky. Let's go. 23 going a blackjack and betting 10 cents every Instagram follow. I've got there are 965,000 of you with us now. The milly is looming. Also we finished yesterday with 666,000 in balance. That's got to be a good omen. See you on the felt. All right ladies and gentlemen

day 73 brings about a 90,650 punt. We go 92,000 on the button. 2,21 plus 3 will go 2,000 on the perfect pairs. We'll slap an extra 600 on the 21 plus 3. Now we've got a young harlot here who if her face is to be believed would like to flip me and do me and rob me. I need to see ace 10 four's no good go. Oh four race. So 15 tens grows to be playing. We're a semi reasonable chance of getting ourselves to push here. Give me four five six four five six. A god damn dare you four five six that's a 10 and a 15 plays a king and now we are forced. We're being strong on into heading and I need to see you go low for me here please five 10's gross 10 as a bus she had fucking perfect peers and we have taken a hiding on our final online day tilting the felt but I will see you all tomorrow where we'll be throwing it down live in Vegas oh shit now here's the thing about Vegas not easy to get a lot of place coming and film you they're not especially not keen with you making one bet and then leaving the

you know. He's found a deal where he can play multiple squares of blackjack against the dealer, 10 grand a hand max. So he could play theoretically up to 10 games, two two deals. Mm-hmm. Five at a time. Going to get crazy. Gonna get crazy tomorrow.

And a camera? Well, yeah, obviously. Yeah. That's like that's a Jesus. Because even with the, you just get the 666, the balance. That's a quick hundo out of the signal, you know what I mean?

It really is. Yeah, you're immediately down to 570. And now it's great you're going to Vegas, but now everything's changing. Instead of doing one big bet, you're spreading it across the table, a 10 grand hand. It's a different location, everything. Jack, what's your confidence that he can come home in profit from Vegas? He will come home and profit from Vegas. Confidence is high.

It's good. I think our boy Timmy's in for a roller coaster in Vegas. Oh yeah. That many hands. There's going to be a lot of emotions. I can't wait to see it. Good luck, Timmy boy.

You got to have a lot of balls to be Tim playing that much on a hand. What about this, though? Does this take balls, Red? There's a guy on the ledge. It looks like a parkade. Oh, my. That's, uh, wow. Wasn't sure where that was going.

Smooth. Success. Oh, my God. He makes that look easy to the point where it's not something where you could easily die, in which case it actually is. Is he wearing gloves? I would, I would worry about there be some serious burn.

Or does he just kind of... It's a body grab more than the hands. Using his arms with the wrapping legs. The bunny hug. Ever climbed a palm tree, Dean? Hope he had a cup on. Yeah, he rattled his berries there. Now, Rhett, I don't know if you were there on the way home.

home or if you just got the videos, but another Warner was born in Saskatchewan, I believe. I saw the baptism here. This is beautiful stuff. That's nice, yeah. Good. And they're talking about the summer. They can't wait till the lakes thaw and you can get out on the boat for a big old wake surf.

Look at that, throw the guy up here. How good is summer? Did you drop it? Nope, you got it. Oh, we got it. Oh! Right in the Haribs. My sister just texts me a hour ago. You should move back to Saskatoon

And we can go to the lake all summer. Yeah. What a great idea. Okay. What's the percentage? None. No, okay. Now, if you bought the blades, I'd say a very high percentage.

Well, if I bought the blades, we'd be kicking ass. Yep. They are kicking us. All right. Margarita, sometimes you need a little extra lime squeeze in there. Check this out. Jack?

Jack at the Griegle. Casamigos. Delicious. Because you couldn't, yeah. Tequila. In? That's a hell of a crab claw there. Yeah, that's not messing around.

I'm going to need you to hop into this big pot of boiling water, sir. Why don't we have a run a little bath for you, son? I'm going to start melting the butter. Okay. You know, some guys have bad days sometimes. We all do. But I don't know that anyone's had a day that's gone as poorly as this man

who tried to scale a fence and, well, have a look. He's got his shit hooked on the, uh, yeah. Brett, he's wedging himself on the fence. At least it's white. Not for long, yeah. Bounce up and down. Oh, what do you do? Do you spear your hand on the top

or do you just rip yourself in half up the middle? There's not a good option, sir. Oh, geez. See, now there's someone laughing at them, not helping. Yeah, is that security camera? What do we got there? Security, that's quality. She's gone.

Again, I feel like this is, it's real, but if you see the very start of the clip, he's already got himself wedged. So I think he set up the camera to do a little clip. So you're saying this guy purposely did this to him. That's kind of what I'm saying, yeah. Why doesn't he step on the? Because how does it, take it back?

I'm still all for it. You want to be an idiot? Is that a security camera to try to catch people climbing the fence? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I think he's set up his camera and then climbed the fence and hooked his gotch on the top of the post. And now he's made it on the Pinder report. So mission accomplished.

Congratulations, sir. And he may actually be able to have children after all this in a few years. Who's to say? And if nothing else, if not the boss, then the, you know, the ripping of the skin in the groinel area would be significant,

I would think. You're going to want to put some salve on that. You're going to have some damage on the undercarriage there, Dean, for sure. There's going to be some sort of, some sort of damage on the, the taintil region, I would think. Yeah. Yeah. Before we close out, I do want to read it, noted the Blades be kicking ass if he was there.

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the memorial cup this year do we know i'll shrew in again anyway it's out east isn't it always an issue that the west team gets screwed over or they play and have to fly all the way will this will this help are they going to finish up early because of that quick second round. Do you know what I mean? It could be very adventitious for my blades. It could be, but that's the ways away yet. You've got to, you've still got to win a league title.

May 24th is the opener, and the dub is in it. Against Saginaw, the spirit of our hosting. Fly out and they always have to, yeah, they play the first game. Anyway. Sons against. Saginaw hosting, Dino. Any updates on the midget,

AAA, aren't the Calgary Buffaloes? playing in that one. They're in Nova Scotia. Saw the team photo yesterday. They're getting ready. They're getting ready. I'm not sure. Where can we watch this?

On the YouTube's. It's all your cable stock. Everything's on the YouTube's. On rink barn. Barn. Barn. Barn. Barn fin rinker. Barn rink. There we, uh, that that concludes the non-animal portion of the Pender report.

I can get you a free account to that live barn, Dean. I've got. I know, I know the guy. So you're not like you've paid. for an account and they're going to share it with me. It's just you know the guy. I know the guy. I know the, yeah, O'Rae.

O'Rae. O'Rae. Wilkes-Barr. Wilkes-Barre. Wilkes-Barre. How is it? Because I know when it started, it was pretty janky. It's the quality.

It's better, but very dependent on the rink. Right. It's going to say, is it feel like you're watching an edge of a game? Well, I'm watching 10-year-old. no matter what, so no. Yeah, the quality is what it is. I do love all the parents feeling the need to sign. And when you're not there, you sign in and you have the phone on.

Oh, yeah, I was watching. I'm like, I've tried to lie my way through that as well. You don't see anything. Yeah. So you're on a screen this big watching dots on the ice. A security camera. What number is he? I don't know.

I can't really see. There's some whites against some reds. The only thing worse than that rat would be when they don't allow parrots in evaluations and people. signing up to watch their children evaluate. Yeah. I can't believe they make you do that drill.

Great. There you go. Village Honda. No, let's go to Sydney, Australia. Dean, I don't know that you ought to come to Australia with Retta and I when we go. I don't know that you're ready for this. Imagine seeing this on your window sill. That's not real either.

A huntsman spider being dragged away by a spider wasp. It looks like a wizard's hand. That is a a spider deem. It looks like some snow crab. Yeah, it kind of does look like those guys in Alaska, yeah. You sure you're not done, eh? Deadliest catch. Hoo.

A lot of crocodile stuff. Let's get to that. I don't understand. Okay, 10 days left in April, right? This has to end. End of the moment. I mean, Dean's ready to quit the show any moment now. He can stop every watch. The crocodiles are still out there. People are still, the content does not stop getting made. as Dean quits the show. Dean, Florida, where do you not want to live right?

We asked earlier near the... Everglades, Ryan. Okay, let's go to the Everglades. I know. Go away. I need a dog. Anyway, if you just want to lie down in the sun and have a nap, I'm sure that's a beautiful patio. As long as I got my bagel by my side,

I'll be just fine. Yeah, you'll at least hear him getting devoured or barking, and they'll give you a little warning. He's a good boy, such a boy. He is such a boy. So the Everglades at night might even be creepier, right? Hey guys, I'm in the Florida Everglades, and this crocodile's coming in hot. But he's not interested in me. He just wants my feet.

Look at him trying to creep up to me underwater. How cute. Just came over and started blowing bubbles. Isn't that adorable? Right here, we got a Burmese python. Yoink? He's not the 20-footer, but that's still one less snake eating all of our native wildlife. Come on, mister. Where's that 20-footer? This scarlet snake's on the move. Yoink? Don't worry guys, he's non-venomous.

Look at his cute little tongue. Just a classic corn snake in the road. Yoink? He doesn't seem to appreciate it though. He's giving me a little kiss. Maybe if I jump on the back of this massive swamp puppy, he'll take me to the 20-foot Burmese python. But would you look at this?

It's a little cotton mouth. Don't be scared, little guy. This big cotton mouth sure wasn't scared. Check out that white mouth. Yoink. We just got a tokeke gecko. I ended up getting a handful of these suckers. Wait, Mr. Bullfrog, tell me where that 20-footer is.

So we'll keep looking for that 20-foot Hermes-Python, Dean. Good idea? Yep. And when we find them, we're going to have a feast, okay? So if not a crock here, that's... Pretty good, eh? The Honda Civic continues to lead the way in value, reliability, and performance. The 2024 Civic received a 10 out of 10 in car and drivers comprehensive vehicle testing

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I was doing it. Was it boiled or is that a sousvied? You ever suvied anything, Dean? I have a suvied. I've not yet suvied. What are you waiting for? I don't know. It's a wintery kind of thing.

Is it? Yeah. Maybe today. No, it's too late. You got a suvied for like 24 hours. That's the whole point. Is it that long? 24 hours.

Goodness gracious. Well, not today. Maybe tomorrow. Maybe it'll be a new deal. I'd like you suveed something for us for tomorrow if you don't mind. Okay. I'd rather that on video than Pinders disgusting gators and BS. They're looking for the 20-footer.

The Boomer Report. Brought to by Shep Boy, R. deep delicious do you like the mini ravioli or the full-sized ravioli i would think my kids did this the day they wow yeah the other day a couple years ago no mind you they're used to going to nonas for homemade pasta sauce so yeah spoiled they were all very excited for some uh alfaghettis yeah so we got it out we heated it up here you go here's your bowl of alfagetti and And doesn't live up the notice. Yeah, right.

Yeah. All three accounts. Yeah. Really? So to answer your question, I would probably want to try the minis first, but I feel like they aren't going to live up to what my expectations as a child were. Yeah.

I do love the raviolis, even to this day. Love it. Sorry, Ryan. Continue. Well, that was it. you read the out, so we must be done. Okay.

That's a good way of doing it. Just start. Yeah, just do the liners. Christ, if that's what gets them to stop, then good to know. I would have started long ago. A little late. We'll do our bet way bad.

So tonight, what are we looking forward to? We got a four banger of games for you. It's going to start at 5 o'clock Leafs Bruins. Are we excited? Now, again, I am. I don't really have a rooting interest, but yet I find myself, sorry, it's a tree. But I do find myself hoping for the biggest catastrophe possible for the Leafs. And I don't know if that means getting to a game seven and then losing or just getting blown out and four.

I don't know. I don't know. Coming home, 2.0 would be pretty bad. Yeah. T.J. Brody, Healthy Scratch, game one and looking like game two as well. Yeah. And Gio's not playing, is he? No, but he's also like 40 or something.

So yeah, yeah. I was talking about their decor, guys. It's garbage. That's so bad. And they added like Lubushkin and Edmondson. It's like, okay, those guys can be. They tried to tell you how great Lubushkin was going to be for. Oh, he's awful.

Like, you can do some things, but he's not good. And they got these guys playing in the tough four. Was that your Lubushkin impression? I guess. It was a very good spot on. It's very good. So yeah, that's a five o'clocker between the Leafs and Bruins. 530 Islanders and Keynes.

Is that worth watching? Well, you know what? I wanted if the Islanders were going to do the ropeodop the other day. And then the Keynes just were better. Anderson was good, I heard. Very good. Yeah. I thought Lions share the chances were the Islanders in the first 40,

but the Keynes did what they need to do in the third on home ice. Got to win. Yeah. It was tight, though. As you might expect the aisles and Cates. good hockey though right like because it's playoffs so it's always playoffs are always good to a certain extent like it doesn't feel like the type of teams that you're like oh i can't miss this i'd rather watch boston beat the piss out of the

leaves if possible and that would be entertaining hockey i'm not even to be fair even if the leaves somehow muscled up and found wood whatever that would be an entertaining game be entertaining yeah i just wonder if leaves canes or islanders canes are even capable of you know what i mean like it's a They are not Jets, Colorado. It's not Nashville, Vancouver. Like, Florida, Tampa was midday. It was a really good game.

And I thought the Rangers one is like, Washington is a fun sponge too. Like the islanders and the capitals have to play ugly to win and that's tough. Yeah, and I get it. Right. If you're a coach in either of those teams, do we want to win this thing? Then there's a way we're going to have to go about doing it.

But that doesn't affect you can coach however the hell you want. I'm talking about our personal life choices. That's what I'm turning on. Those are series seven and eight out of the eight I would rank them. Had a wonderful breakfast pizza way yesterday. What? While watching some details, please. They're sadly, sadly and surprisingly probably for a lot of people back in the West and beautiful Calgary.

Calgary, I would say, unbelievable breakfasts, diners, the choices are numerous, the results are stupendous. You would think that in this type of environment, town, you would be able to find a wonderful breakfast spot. No, hey. Buffalo. You would be sadly disappointed. They don't respect the breakfast. I think this is my, if you want to get deep into it, I think. Part of the problem is 4 a.m.

Last call? 4 a.m. is last call. Who in the F is getting up at 10.30? And it's a bunch of booze bags out there, too. So you know they're running right till four hours. Oh, and then they hammering wings all night. And then there's after hours clubs. And I mean, what are we talking about?

So I think that plays into the fact that there's no good breakfast joints. But we did find a place that had a breakfast pizza and a couple brunchy menus. new items. Pretty good. Okay. So walk me through. What's, uh,

is it just, that's what you order? Do you pick your toppings like you would on a regular pizza or? It's not a pick your toppings. It was the breakfast pizza, scrambled eggs, sausage, bacon,

some cheese, a hot sauce base, which I was a little intimidated by, because I'm like, well, I don't, like I don't need to, you know what I mean?

I don't need the ring of fire here. Let's, I want it to be in show. But I was, but I risked it. And there was almost a maple syrupy glaze on top of the crust.

Sweet and savory, which I know, right? It's kind of, so how was, uh, how was the bunghole after? Dab, dab, dab. Yeah. Yeah. There's nothing worse than the baboon ass

after you've had some hot food. This is where Pinder needs to read a liner and let's go to see. At Betway for 7.30, Vegas at Dallas Stars and Golden Knights. Please be a good series.

Please be good. Yes. Please. Pete's bore against his old team. Let's go. Hey, Jamie, Ben, don't cross-check anyone in the face. Yeah.

As they're laying on the ice. Yeah, Mark Stone. It was the same series. Don't do it. Don't do it. who, well, I'm trying to, if someone's going to let you down in this series, who's it going to be? Is it going to be Vegas? Vegas. I'm not saying they're going to, but there's a chance that they all show up.

These pieces don't fit. They don't get goaltending. And it's like, thanks for not giving us that second rounder, ass hats. I agree. I think that Dallas is probably, I feel Dallas is going to be good for, you know, they're going to be, they're going to bring what they bring. But it was the last week, 10 days of the season where Vegas started to look right. But prior to that, it was like. What are we doing here, fellas?

They've looked right. Then they've looked sloppy, and they were kind of stuck in that spot. They could have had Edmonton. They lost against Anaheim, gave up six or something stupid. Like, come on, guys. Do we know who's going in net for them? Is it Thompson or? But if you're sorry.

Go ahead. If you're Vegas, Ryan, and you say you could have had Edmonton. Yeah. Where do you want to go? You want to go hang out in the city of, Bridges for a week or Dallas. Saskatoon? Baboon ass. Baboon ass. The cultural

capital. Real thing. The cultural capital of Alberta. You want to hang out there? Or do you like? No boo. I hear you. It's just that you're going to have to be, if you're going to get to the Western Conference final, Dallas and. You're the Stanley Cup champions. You're not intimidated by anyone. Bring it on. We'll see it tonight.

It is Logan Thompson confirmed against Jake Ottinger. Both of them confirmed. Calgary guy. Catch us with the wrong hand, but Calgary guy. Truckee, that's two of them because Lindgren does as well. Does he really? Talked about a lot in that Rangers game. Yeah.

Wasn't talking about the Rangers at all, but. No, no, I just mean two guys in the playoffs that are goofy. Okay. And then the Kings of the Oilers. No confirmed goalies. Yeah, this does have the feel of a, may not watch much of this series. If the Oilers are going to get out

and 1-0-0-0-0-0-3, I don't need to watch anymore. That's shit. I was going to say, if Kings won't win in game one, you'll have my full attention. Yeah, yeah, the Kings, it's on you. I want to watch just because of what I brought up earlier, the late-night game, it's on, it's kind of just the memories of having it on.

You're almost nodding off a few times, just. So with that said, you being in the Eastern Times Zone, how much of this 10 o'clock starts do you enter? First period last night. I'm going to watch the first period tonight. It is a nice time in a way because there's no children or idiots bothering me. I can totally commit to snacks and couches and children or idiots. Sometimes the two are the same.

Sometimes not. Is that what you're saying? There's some idiots go mingle. Is the shovel around? What are we trying to say here? You just let it lie. You don't need to go. Some of the other than I would listen.

Stuart Skinner will have. people in front of them tonight and we'll try not to get hooked in the first. Go get this. Stuart. Stuart. Stuart. Stewart. Stuart, Betway bets.

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Give me a two goal or more victory margin plus 145 for the Oilers tonight. I'm jumping in on the canes in the aisles. I think the aisles make this interesting series. I really do. Svetnikov had six shots in game one, though. So first I'm going to take them to get three or more. Mr. Svichnich. Mr. Svichnich.

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7-2. Closer. 6-3. Wrong way. You're a losing ground. Also, Kikuchi out there tonight. 9-3. How are the J's doing, Ryan?

Pretty good. They won four series in a row. They haven't swept anyone. They've had the chance. But the rotation and bullpen, again, looks like the strength of this team, which is not surprising. But if you told them they were going to beat. The Yankees is in a best of three. The Padres in a best of three. That's not bad work. In both.

8.0. Over. Royals are actually good this year, so we'll see what that looks. In Kansas City. In Casey. They play again in a couple series, too, but I think that was a wrong. Kansas City. Kansas City, here I come.

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I apologizeize. For that. So tomorrow, we're going to do this again. Yeah. More games to talk about. Yeah, more games to talk about. Two new series get going tonight.

How about the home teams, guys? 6 and 0 so far, home teams. Unders, 4 and 2? I'm not sure. Now, how does that work again? The unders. You know, why do they say that?

The home teams are 6 and 0, Dean. Let's see if that trend changes tonight. Does if LA wanted to be that one visiting team? And if you're in Vancouver, not Ontario, the other way, and you're in Vancouver, go hang out with Frankie boy, Greta. Yes. Frank Serra Valley and the Canucks, whoever they are, the people that are in the nation network with the, what is it, the, the,

multiple shows there. Connox Conversations, Carers Price. Yeah, yeah. Army. I don't know if they'll be there, but probably some of them will be there. It's not like Frank's going to go by himself. He'll need some handlers, you know. Sarvelli's a big deal.

He's going to need some entourage. Yeah. Some velvet, you know, some velvet rope. Some carpeting and stuff to get Frank. I'll have to have like a throne or something that he'll be sitting on. He was sitting on a throne today. Yeah, he was sitting on the throne. Productive day.

Yep. Do you suppose he gets the baboon ass? Can't avoid it. Oh, did you, you want the other? I just got to go. Do you have to go where do you guys? to go but let's go anywhere i'm just saying you're talking about frank's baboon house it's time to hit the button yeah i feel i'm with pender jack a little a little longer okay um oh fuck it that'll do it

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