Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Flames Recall Dustin Wolf + Dan Near Joins The Show | FN Barn Burner - December 5th, 2023

Episode Date: December 5, 2023

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Good day, buddies. It is a category flames game day rat. It's not a Bills game? It does look like a Bills game day. I do not believe there is Tuesday night football yet. I'm getting ready for it. Just a case. Some streaming service will offer a billion dollars to the NFL, but not yet.

You are equipped for a Bills game day. It is not a Bills game day. It's a Flames game day. Get your helmets on. Yes, there we are. And if you don't mind, just very quickly here. Oh, oh, oh, oh. The call of the wolf, Rhett. Jacob Markstrom yesterday in practice, a puck off his hand.

Ouch. Ouch. Son of a beeswax. And you know what that means? Fractured. Weeks, not days. The call of the wolf, clap for the wolf man. And it'll be damper.

Do we play that stronger? Would we get in trouble? We could probably sing that. song because we are not good enough to make it sound like it's a copyright infringement. Clap for the wolf band. That's up until the day I die. Is that the guess who? Have a clue.

It might be the hoop. It's got to be a prairie band. That feels like that feels like someone close to. Did you see some some Puts did an AI picture for every province? really? Like just an image to represent everything that's in the process? Yes, exactly. I've seen this with like hockey players and like famous politicians and stuff.

There's a couple of guys that are toying around that AI. It's quite funny. It is interesting to see what AI thinks of everyone. So which image are you stuck out for you? I didn't even look at them. I just heard about it. I wondered if we should look it up. Guess who?

Clap for the Wolfman. There it is. Written by Burton Cummins. ready to go, Bert. Bill Wallace and Kurt Winter. Don't believe any relation to Rich Winter. And you're Munchapani's agent. Prove it.

All right. Very good. Let's learn more. We'll clap for the Wolfman. 1974 album, Road Food. That's where the song appeared. It was ranked 84th in Billboard magazine's top Hot 100 of 1974. The song is an homage to Wolfman Jack, who was featured talking

in his typical on-air DJ voice several times in the recording. It reached number four in Canada and six on the Billboard Hot 100 in 19794. And top 20 in the Netherlands, Belgium and South Africa as well. Well, those Belgians. Wolfman Jack, not who will be attending the gate tonight. That'll be Wolfman Dustin, as he will be with the big club. This always felt like a Dan Vladar start, Rhett. It's been a fair amount of Jacob Markstrom since that start of the year for Dan

which actually might not be saying that much. There's not a lot of competition for his best performance of the year, but he was very good in Colorado, very early in the gauntlet run. It's been a lot of Markstrom since then. It will not be a lot of Markstrom moving forward as he is week to week. This is quite a spot the flames find themselves in. And stretching back just two days ago on Afterburner, I guess Saturday. We were talking about like, what's the plan with Wolf?

Is everyone okay here? What's the plan with Coronado? Here's the plan. You were waiting for something to give and something has given. and that is a fracture of a finger in Jacob Markstrom's hand. Problem solved in many ways, and like the flame season, I feel like this is a can't lose scenario.

I'm kind of with you. You and I are on team. They're not contenders. Even if they are, you have to find out. And with the goaltending situation, contender or not, you can't carry three forever

and you can't leave Wolf with the Wranglers. I'm with you. It's especially promising if you believe that this is a group. that needs to retool seriously and that should be moving a goalie this year because you're now going to get a good look at all three. You've seen a much better Jacob Markstrom through the first quarter of the season than you did last year in the first three quarters of the season. Dan Vladar, it's been one very good start, some battling, but too many soft goals. And Dustin Wolf had one start where he didn't get a lot of help.

And Nikita Zedorov nearly tucked one in his own net and allowed the senators to do it for him. you will know more about your number two and three netminder in the organization by the time Jacob Marksum's healthy. And I think that's a great thing to probably the point you're making. It's exactly what you need to find out. Can you trade Vladar? Is it any good or do you want to keep Pladar? Can you trade Markstrom?

Who's going to stick around? I mean, Wolf is going nowhere, but the other two need to sort the shit out. Plus, if you lose, it gives you even more clarity as to we are in a cell mode scenario. I agree wholeheartedly on all those fronts. I think that there's no such thing as an untouchable, but Dustin Wolfe's the highest on the untouchable rankings for goalies. I mean, he's young, he's cheap, he is highly touted, he is not on the back nine with expected sort of diminishing returns,

as you'd think with Markstrom at his age, and he's not a guy making $2.2 million that has had more bad starts than good starts this year. That's Dan Vladar. If you can find a way to move one of those other two netminers, and I can be sold on either case, what you're really trying to do is look at say okay here's what we can get for vladar here's what we can get for markstrom do we need to retain salary for one of the other how much contract is left do we want to burn one of those salary retention holes for one year

what do we want wolf working with all of it matters what's a better spot for wolf to be groomed in but but really what it is is you're just going to be measuring and saying okay here are all the pros if we do this deal here all the pros if we do this deal let's let's measure and weigh and talk our way through it but I would suggest it's a 99% probability that it's going to be Wolf and one other guy and someone's going to be traded. That's how it's going to go when you look at beyond this year's trade deadline and into next year because he's earned it. I mean, I'm looking at his numbers here, Rhett. So first off, two seasons in the WHL, goalie of the year, goalie of the year. Rookie in the American League, goalie of the year. Second year in the American League, goalie of the year, league MVP.

he has played in 118 A HL games. That's a lot. Most goal he's posting the numbers he's posted don't get halfway there. They're up to the big club and they're done with the American League. 83 wins. 23 losses,

six overtimes. That's pretty good. It's almost a three to one ratio wins over losses. That is wild. His career numbers in the American League, a 2.26 goals against. This is like Mika territory for his career in Calgary, albeit NHL, a 927 save percentage,

nine shutouts. That's two seasons and change in the American League. This year, 10, 3 and 0, 2.2 and a half goals against 920 save percentage and two shutouts. He's too good for the American League. It is time to find out what he is at the NHL level. Please be too good for the NHL League. please.

What happens when you're too good for the NHL? You go to the Hall of Fame and you win San Diego. That's right. You move to a different league called the Hall. What you do is you hang up a bunch of banners. You're a goaltender and a banner hanger. That's what happens when you're too good for the NHL.

It's a very important position, Red. So flames are in great shape. And you know what? We've seen Game 82, Dustin Wolf last year. You were here. Remember that? We sat next to each other. It was Game 82 against the sharks.

He allowed one early and then I think was Rocksaw the rest of the way. We saw the one in Ottawa this year. He's come up and worked the gate a few times. I think that's it at the NHL level. And he has not been overwhelming and what, undeniable force. But it's time for a run. So we can say,

okay, he's had 10 games. Here's a question. Here's where he stacks up against the best 60 goalies in the world. But is he going to get a run or is Vlodar going to get a run? They'll both get a chance. I think it's Vlodar. tonight against Minnesota will be what we'll hear. It just makes sense.

I think it was probably going to be his start anyway. Then you have Carolina on Thursday. Let me ask though, does it change? I don't give a shit, but just to make the conversation interesting, does it change that Markstrom's out? Yeah, it might have been Vladars start even with Markstrom, but do you want to set, are you handpicking where Wolf goes in, I guess is my question? I think what it is is everyone's been preparing for Dan Bladar to start tonight.

it's easiest just to let him do that, let Wolf get acclimatized. Not that it's crazy. He's not traveling. He's down the hall. You could go Wolf tonight, I think, but it's just been way too long since Dan Lodar looked great in Denver. I wanted to see him soon. But he played that other game, didn't he? No, that's his last start was Denver.

No, no, you're crazy. He had the standout game. That was the one against Colorado. That was his best start. They lost what? Two to one and he was upside down? No, no. Staking my starts.

Yeah. Philadelphia had a win. Yeah. He came in. and absolutely stole the show against Dallas. Okay, I'm sorry. That's my fault, right? I assumed it was the-

Because he had a good start against Colorado as well. It was a decent. It was the Vegas of money. It was after the Colorado. Thank you. Sorry, that's my fault. Because Markstrom got the food poisoning or whatever. There you go.

So Markstrom has been in every game since the opener of this homestand. And it is now game four. It's a two games in a row. I know. But I just was saying, okay, it's Vladar's been great. We talked about it. let the guy get back in, he's been great. And then it's like, if he hangs a zero,

you can play him Thursday too. But if he's just okay, it's Wolf time. And then it's like, boys, the crease is up for whoever wants it. But let's show us with your play who's going to start. I don't disagree with you other than if I'm Conroy, I want Vladar to have, I guess that's the tough spot for the GM,

the coach, the organization is you want to see Wolf, but you need to see Vlodar, I think, because I think you've got to figure out what you've got in Vlodar. I think you have a strong belief in what you have in Wolf, and you don't know what the hell Vlodar is right now,

and neither does the rest of the league. I think that's fair. Yeah, he's been in the league a long time and doesn't have a lot of starts. I mean, he's quite young and starts in the NHL, but he's not young by birth certificate. It's time to find that. that out. But it's really simple here. If Dan Bladar plays well, he's going to get a run here.

If he doesn't, it's going to be really tough to go to this guy. Because Ryan Husk has been hired to do what? Win games. And it's like, if Vladar's going to let in five, I'm going to Wolf. We've been talking about this kid for how many years, right? I know, but then that leaves you in Dead'sville with Lidar. Yeah, but you got to do some. Right? He may or may not be good enough. We don't know. To your point, we don't know. But you don't just trot them out allowing five a night for five in a row.

You can't. The kids deserve the shot if that's going to be happening. And this will all play itself out. It's not like when we're trying to forecast the future, things are hard. When things happen in real time, it's a lot easier. We'll watch tonight's game. I think it'll be obvious whether they go to Wolf or whether it's like, man, we got to keep Lidar on this run is a thought that the flames could be had. We'll see.

I think tonight there won't be much debate about who it should be Thursday. maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, like you said, to lead this off, it's a no-lose scenario. I am with you. I think there's clarity to be gained here. Speaking of clarity, and so what is it? There's the crystal structure, clarity, like, there's all the seas. Claritin, like you're sick.

Claritin, no, no, no. Like, when you're buying a diamond, they have all these different measures. Yeah. It's like clarity is one of them. That's, you want something that's, Cut, clarity, and charisma. Because I don't know if the third is. You know why we don't sell diamonds and have a jewelry store?

Because we're not experts at it. What we do know is our wives love diamonds and that they've all been thrilled with gifts we've had taken care of at Vina Nova. Our pal Justin talked with him yesterday on a phone call, Rhett. He's setting something up for our guys this Christmas. Because if our guys do one thing in terms of shopping, what's the Achilles seal? What do we always do? We leave it too late.

Screw it up and wait forever. What are we doing here? Like it's the 23rd. You're just wandering aimlessly around them all. I don't even know what the store is. What am I going to get here? I'm out of time. So Justin is going to set something up later in the week.

We'll have news. There will be, I think, some sort of tiered different stuff. There'll be a barn burner, a few exclusive gifts. He's going to walk you through exactly. okay, what's our budget? What are we doing? What is your wife like? But if you haven't been to Vinova, you've got to do it. It's Calgary's own, only lab grown diamond exclusive jewelry store. You were in there recently. I took, oh, what? In there the other day. And the ladies are always happy when you or all of us are visiting.

Bright shiny things. Yes. It's a great thing for the shovelers. She's a big fan of those things. Yes, yeah. And she's not a lot of. alone. That's not an outlier position for better halves. They do like these things a lot. Very excited. She can't wait to unveil what she's got cooking this, this holiday season for Viena Nova. So give Justin our boy a call. If you're not, what's the lab made diamond? What's the lab ground? It's the exact same as a regular diamond. It's compressed carbon. You just don't have to dig it out of the ground somewhere in the continent of Africa, right? Like you're, you're making it in a lab. Boom, there it is. You're cutting it. You often, gemologists can't tell the difference between the two. You can get better clarity.

And here's the real selling point. Well, if they're the same, who cares? Well, how about one's a fifth of the price of the other one? A fifth? Like 20%. Are you kidding me? So talk to our boy, Justin Avinova. We'll have more news throughout the week as we get closer to Christmas because you don't want to screw it up.

We're good at screwing stuff up. Enough. Avoid screwing it up. Let's not. And I'm told talking with Justin, he said the biggest day for engagements all year, apparently Christmas. People are so intoxicated. They got the hangover goofiness from all the drink the night before. They're thinking about doing it.

I'm doing it right here. It's the greatest day of the year. I'm proposing today. You got an upstage grandma and grandpa and their gifts. People do it this on. Got the lighting. You got the tree. That's right.

That could be good, I guess. If you're going to do it, careful. Go ahead. But that's a lovely day to do it, they say. Sure is. Love me. Talk to Justin. That's being a Nova.

They are located downtown Stephen Avenue place. Nice little restaurant right there. Go for a cocktail. Yeah, you can see that. Or dinner. Zip over. And if you want some custom stuff, just give them a little time to work with. They can build it custom.

Just don't expect it done that day. That's not how these things are working. It's not for your mother, too. Quit being a putts. What would you get your mom? Some sort of. I don't know whatever the hell she was. She'd probably be a.

much like the shoveler. She'd anything that shined, she would probably be excited for. The shiny stuff, more of it, the bigger ones. Simple, right? Mm-hmm. Very good.

Okay. So we've sorted it out. We are not going to screw up Christmas. Fellas, we're going to help you. No more news coming later this week. We have a guest joining us in about four or five minutes. But before we do that, for McLeod Law,

we are going to dive into some flames history. Well, kind of history. It's me today doing this, not boom. so it's going to be a little goofier. I think Jack and I have been working on something. I don't want to disparage the great name of McLeod Law so much as celebrate some Flames icons here, Rhett. Let's, for McLeod Law, you know, Calgary-based law firm, they don't have some dopes in another city telling you how you should be doing things. They understand this city, how it ticks.

Talk to them. If you've got any legal needs, obviously Peter Klein, big partner ours. We'll tell you more about him in a moment. But first, Jack is, I don't know how many texts you've got out yet today, Rhett. A lot of birthdays in the organization today. Really? Look at this. Okay, let's see who you can name here.

I think you played with... Perry Barrison. It parry's on the left. Holy Yokinen. Swoopy, there he is, yeah. I know that guy up front. I know his name, but I can't remember it. I'll give you a clue.

It's the same-ish kind of name. Jesus only. The guy in the far right is playing a lot. The guy in the far right is playing Finland right now, but he was playing a lot for the flames down the stretch last year. His face a little less red than it was last year down the stretch because he was not in great shape. Who the hell is that?

Nick Richie on the right. Shootout legend Nick Richie. There it is. Geotuber's Rock has nailed it. Look at that. Hey? Yeah. Now the other one, you've got to go back.

And well, people have already busted it. Matt's got it nailed. Matt, Matt, Matt knows the birthdays here. That's Nick Hagman. in the middle. Hey, man. So I've got a great story-ish for each of these guys. We went to the game on the weekend, courtesy our good pal, John Winwick, at ATB Financial.

Boom and I had a little fun. And what you do is you get to have a little meal before you show up way early. There's no traffic, no parking issues. You're in there. Two hours for buck drop. Buffet, drink, shmoozing. Everyone's telling stories. And then you're like, wow, this has been a great day.

I'll get a little dessert. and another cocktail, wonderful. And then, okay, I guess it's probably a little bit of a pucktrap. What do we do now? And then someone wheels in that's from the Flames alumni. We had Joel Otto. We had Tim Hunter last time we did this. It's all kinds of great Flames alums from years gone by.

And they tell some stories and just interact Q&A, tons of fun. Nobody, nobody, and I mean, nobody misses a chance to dunk on Perry Barrison. Because, of course, it was the Nikita Zedorov return. on Saturday. So some people started asking about trade requests and hey, Mr. Otto, what do you think about a guy asking out? And he said, well, funny thing happened in 1989. Rhett? Do you remember what happened in

1989? I do. Poor bastard. That's no good. We all love Perry, but I feel like looking back, that might have been a mistake. That was a big, oops. So Perry Barrison requested a trade in 1989. Now, I'm guessing he requested it because he wasn't

playing. I think he definitely got more ice time where he went, but he also got less cups. Yeah, less cups. He won that spring, and he started the year on the flames. It was not there. Perry does great work with the Alumni Association.

Red, shed a little light on. He's one of the more active guys, I'd think. I think he sent an email the other day about, because they'll do the Christmas toy drive, the flames coming up here. He's involved in everything. Yeah.

he's involved and everything and the first time i ever did the hot stove after a game in calgary and downstairs with peter mar uh i went into the room and some kid walked by and looked in and said can i get your autograph and i thought i'm the only player so i'm like sure and the kid went up to parry and got his autograph no parry's a player too red come on And I actually don't even, like, I was so new to the city. I don't even think I know who it was. Uh, so that's Perry was on the far left. Now, how much overlap did you have with Oli?

Please tell me you had some. A little bit, a little bit. Was he a wing net? Was he an odd cat? Not a wing net. Just quiet. Weird. Okay.

Yeah. And Finn can be quiet. I don't want to stereotype. I wouldn't say, I liked them. It was, I don't, I'm not speaking disparagingly, but he was quiet. Yeah. And then, uh, I feel like the challenge is Oliokin,

and it was everyone really wanted it to work. And since, again, there's a rival, it was like, well, they've never had a legit number one center. You know, Connie was great, and there's a bunch of other guys that have filled holes and played well, but if you could go out and get a start number one center, a hundred point center, my goodness, like, how good would this team be if you got a number one center?

And then Connie could be a number two. Oh, my God, how good is this team going to be? And Oli never really was that here. It was weird. He almost performed better on the Phoenix and Florida as of the world than he did on what was a theoretical cup contender in Calgary the two times he was here. Yeah, he was

fine, but he certainly wasn't a hundred point guy. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. So anyway, well, only obviously 10 teams, by the way, Calgary, Florida, LA, Nashville, Islanders, Rangers, coyotes, blues, Leafs, Jess.

That might say something for a hundred point player. That's kind of where I'm going to. Odd duck might be too strong. but it just never really matched what your expectations were. And then Nick Hagman ended up getting sent down to Abbotsford at the end of his time here, but was an impactful goal score at his peak. And the final one, Nick Ritchie, he's now playing at Carpat in the SM Liga. That got done last weekend.

He is now overseas. Four happy birthdays for Calgary Flames, courtesy, our pals at McLeod Law. You know, Peter Klein, of course, he's the personal injury guy, but he also does disability insurance claims. If you're a long-term disability insurance company is messing with your rat, you got to contact Peter. They'll get you the benefits that you paid for and you deserve. Get your peace of mind back. Call Peter Klein.

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Okay, we have a guest. Let's get to it on the Tellus Insider Hotline. We head to, I believe, Portland, Oregon. Dan Nier, the new WHL commissioner, sir. How are you today? Good morning, guys. Thanks for having me. Yes, Portland, Oregon.

This is quite something. You were unveiled, I believe, last week, as the new commissioner of the WHO, and you even got to get on the Flames broadcast, but I think Connie had just made a trade for Zedorov, And they're like, Dan, new commissioner, what do you want to do on the job? 10 seconds or less. It was a quick hit, but I appreciate the opportunity.

It was great to get up to Calgary. You know, I'm from the East Coast from Ontario, but I've been in the U.S. a long time. So being back in Calgary, being in the rank, it was a lot of fun. And I'm sure they'll have a little more time for me down the road. And maybe I'll have more to talk about, too, once I get a seat. So walk us through your career to end up in the commissioner's chair in the WHL. Is this the type of job that's always been on your radar? Did someone come out of the blue and say, hey, have you ever thought about this?

Like, how did we arrive here? Because I believe you're even still at your old work or at least, you know, just exiting the process of leaving Portland, whatever it is. You work for Adidas. That's not necessarily a straight line. Yeah, fair enough. But I've been connected to hockey for really my whole life. but in the business of hockey for the last 20 years or so. And I'll probably give you the medium version of it.

But I had a couple really interesting opportunities going back to high school and college. One, I worked in the TSN Newsroom and really got my first taste of here's what happens behind the scenes. Like, as a young athlete and fan of sport, you never really know what it was on behind the scenes. But I was working on Sports Center. It was called Sports Desk at the time, making highlight packs for baseball games and run a teleprompters and doing that kind of thing. But I was at Western in London, Ontario. I went there to actually play football that I crapped out after a year and ended up

the color analyst the rest of the way on campus radio. But I took a year and left the program for credit to go down to New York City and work at NBC Sports, like in 30 Rockefeller Center. Dick Ebersolls down the hall smoking cigars, working on, it was NBA on NBC, and they had just got arena football, Notre Dame football. And so I was getting exposed to this idea of sports business in a really big city environment, right?

It was 2002 in New York City right after my left. And I got the itch, guys. I'm like, okay, this is a path I want to take. So I finished my degree. I went in MBA school, and I actually thought I was going to end up in packaged goods. I had a job off for Procter & Gamble to work on herbal essences shampoo. It was about to take the job.

move back to Toronto and somebody said, hey, while you're in New York visiting, you should go check out the NHL office. It's a beautiful office. It's in the middle of New York City. You've never had a chance. I'm like, yeah, absolutely. So I visited the NHL. It was right after the 0405 season long lockout. And a consequence of that was most of the staff got let go.

They were really, really lean at the time. So a walk around the office as kind of a graduating MBA about to go work in shampoo quickly turned into, oh, you can help us here. And so I declined. It was one of the few people declined kind of the dream package goods job at Procter & Gamble in favor of, hey, my fiance at the time and I were going to move to New York City and try this NHL thing out. And so I worked in the licensing and consumer products group there. I spent 10 years there working on a variety of things. But what was, I think, a little parallel to where we are with the WHL is it was a little bit of an underdog nature of NHL at the time, especially in the U.S. If you remember at the time, hockey was on the Outdoor Life Network was like the podcast partner in the U.S.

And it was a fairly, and it was coming out of a year-long lockout. It was a fairly low point and got to be a part of, hey, I believe in this. We can build this. We can generate interest and scale and excitement around what we're doing. And, you know, I had a great set of mentors. I had a lot of fun along the way. But I spent 10 years in New York City working on the business side at the NHL. From there, Adidas in the NHL got married.

That was in 2016 at the World Cup of hockey. Sure. And so I joined Adidas. I was kind of getting to the point. I had a 5-year-old and 2, 4-year-old kids. The commute to New York City was a real grind. a ton of travel. And I wasn't sure if I was going to be a hockey guy for life.

And Adidas was a chance to say, well, I'm going to maximize what I've done. I'm going to go work in the business of hockey. But on the Adidas side. And by the way, Adidas has so many tentacles. Maybe I'll go work on something else, not be typecast as a hockey guy for life. So I was wondering if I might get out of hockey when I made that move. But I led the global hockey business for Adidas. And if you recall, back at the World Cup, Adidas had never been on any hockey

product short of some really old skates in like the 1960s and some European like Spangler Cup jerseys and that kind of thing, right? And so we got it out of the gate. We signed athletes, you know, Crosby and McDavid, P.K., Matt Barzal, you know, we had women's hockey relationships. We launched reverse retro, you know, a whole bunch of different initiatives that were really built around trying to build the impact brand-wise for the for the league through a consumer products partnership i spent eight years here now dabbled in a bunch of other things at adidas and honestly although adidas in the n-chl were coming to a close i wasn't super anxious to get out um i had a good landing pad and i'm working on really interesting things here but when i heard

ron was retiring when i got a couple calls from people involved with the league that said hey you you should look at this. I'm like, yeah, I should. And, you know, it was a four or five month process with a lot of intense conversations from not only the governors and the owners, but everybody I know in my kind of industry circles around, hey, what do you think of this? And people think that it's a good fit for me. I think it's a good fit for me. I got to show it now, but it's this idea of bringing a hockey acumen and then commercial and business acumen together to try and propel the league forward. Well, I think it's a great fit because I think the stereotype that maybe is true

or maybe that the league has to fight is that it's an older brand, it's risk averse, you know, what are you going to do to attract younger fans? Your background is, I feel like this is a perfect fit in terms of, I love to see a league like the WHL going to a guy like you rather than some 70-year-old crony that's been working for the league for 50 years. what do you see is the brand you're now in charge of? How do you view the WHL and its strengths versus the areas you want to improve? So I think that hockey has probably not just WHL,

all hockey has been relatively slow moving as far as taking risks like this. I don't know, if you think back to when the winner classic first launched back in 2008, maybe that game in Buffalo. I see the Bill's gear. Buffalo in Pittsburgh. It was trying something new that may have worked, may not have worked, that people maybe not, wouldn't the thought was possible, or you can't have a two-point competitive game if it's snowing outside and drawing lines in the sand around what hockey is or isn't or can be or should be. And look, I'm not out here to change all the rules of the game. I'm not out here to take the heritage and tradition out of what Major Junior or Western

Hockey League play is. I just think the idea of trying to create some energy around the product is something that will really resonate with the fans. And so I think a big thing people worry about is, you know, it's a redistribution of wealth, so to speak. Like let's cut the same pie a bunch of different ways. It's like, no, we're still going to do. all the things we've always done to cater to and entertain the core fan.

We can't alienate the core fan. But boy, I think there's a big opportunity to bring new fans into this sphere. I think there's an opportunity for people outside of the home market to care. So I want you to care about what's happening in Brandon and Manitoba. I want someone in Portland to care about what's going on with the Vancouver Giants. But you have to create platforms, content exposure, storytelling in a way that makes it viable. So when one of our players is going off to play in the World Junior Championships, we better be documenting that and storytelling it and providing access to consumers.

And that's not necessarily a singular path to revenue growth. But I do think that a lot of this loops back to familiarity with the product, interest in the product, commitment to the product. And our fans are blue collar fans. We're talking about a $20, $25 ticket to come to our games. And it's a choice. It's a choice. you can spend that money elsewhere,

and we want to provide a platform and an opportunity that fans want to be in our buildings and want to experience what WHL has to offer. Some of the early comments you had after taking the job were that you want to be a more attractive place for Americans or at least to recruit a higher percentage of Americans. We're seeing a lot of stronger leagues down there. USHL, a lot of kids in the college route have had a lot of success.

What do you do to sell the WHL and maybe what story isn't told enough to those people that maybe haven't, considered the WHL strongly enough. Yeah, I think the pervasive myth is that you're surrounding your education if you come and play major junior hockey. And that's actually not the case. Our scholarship program is pretty robust.

I think there's 350 WHL alum alone right now in post-secondary education. Many of them playing hockey over 200 of them playing hockey on the Canadian side of the border. But you earn a scholarship when you play with us. And so if you imagine somebody playing five years in our league where it's an all expenses paid, billet family experience, all your gear, everything is covered, your travel is covered for five years with the team. And then you get five years of additional scholarship funding. You know, you're under the WHL's wing, so to speak, for 10 years. And these owners are making significant commitments to you as a player and to your individual development. I was at the Portland game on the weekend, and I brought my family, which was a lot of fun.

And I met the educational advisor, Sue, for the winter hawks. And I haven't had any exposure yet to any of these educational advisors. And what she was talking to me about is the collaboration she has with players coming from Manitoba, from Saskatchewan, from Alberta, and making sure the credits they're earning are transferred over. She talked to me about the idea that for players who have already graduated high school, they have two collegiate classes that are taught in the arena after the morning practice and before games and like all these things that I didn't know about it. I think we have to do a better job socializing and educating parents and prospective players

about that dimension of the player experience because the product on the ice is unquestionably a real gateway to the future, right? If you look at NHL opening night rosters, 20% came from the Western Hockey League. This is a great place to go. if you want to become the best hockey player. But what is understated right now is the quality of people we're developing and the educational experience that comes along with it.

Are you moving to Calgary? I know league offices are here. And of course, you know, we've got a bunch of great events in the Teddy Bear Toss just wrapped up. I recall taking my kids to a 17,000 person Connor Bedard game last year. Hitman when Regina passed through.

Are you soon a Calgarian? Or is this sort of still indecision? No, I'm soon a Calgarian. My plan is I'm planning to attend the Winter Classic in Seattle with my family, just up the road from us here. And I'm going to continue on up to Calgary from there. They're going to head back to Portland. They're going to finish up the school year in Portland,

and our family will move to the Calgary area. Our CEO, Greg Gardner, on Friday the day after the press conference, took me for a little spin around town so I could start to get an idea of the different communities. and honestly, I've got a 13-year-old and 2, 12-year-olds, making sure we get situated in a place where the schools are great. The sports and activities are great, and, you know, and the community is great. It will be a huge priority.

I've heard about these late communities, and, like, pod hockey is not a thing in Portland, Oregon. I can't wait to get out onto the ice and to dangle around some of the kids and show them I still got it. I got a great rental property for you. It's on a lake. It's all set up. It's ready to go.

So Rhett is in Buffalo. He's wearing the Buffalo gear as well. He doesn't know who Rhett is. Red is an ex-former Saskatoon Blade. I tried to buy the blades when they were last for sale probably eight to 10 years ago. I played three years there, a big fan of the W.HL. So congratulations on the new job. And then I went on to play pro as well.

But then I bought a house in Calgary and moved to Buffalo. Redhead's off in Florida, Buffalo and Calgary, and his wife's from Buffalo, and he spent the last year and a half there, I want to say, Rhett-ish, almost there. So there is a lovely house on a lake in Calgary, sitting empty, that I'm sure we can connect you to with emails after the show. That's easy. Let's do it. Let's do it.

Dan, congrats. We're looking forward to seeing you here in Calgary and welcoming you to the city. You're going to love it, and I think you're great hire for the league. Thanks for sharing some time with us. Nice to meet your fellows. Talk soon. Right on. there's Dan Neer, new commissioner of the Western Hockey League,

joining us on the Tellus Insider Hotline. I didn't know if Dan knew who you were or not. I'm guessing. You just looked like some schlub in his basement wearing Bill's gear. Yeah, he's like, who is this ass hat? Does it talk? Rick Ryan's kid? What are we doing over there?

Yeah, what are we going? It's, man, he makes a lot of good points in there. And I think it's very valid to say, like, what do you mean you're losing your eyes? education if you play in the Western League. Of course you can't go to the NCAA. We know that, but I think the level of hockey that gets overlooked the most in North America, and I don't like it's close, is the caliber of play you get in new sports. Our home rink for minor hockey happens to be where the Mount Royal Cougars play. And so I absolutely love it when we get into

January, February, the kids will have a practice midday or afternoon. And then you see the Cougars warming up. It's like, you know what? There's arcade games. You got bubble hockey. We'll get some food here. Let's stay. And then when the game starts, we'll buy tickets and go watch the Cougars and maybe it's the dynos who had that incredible run last year. Maybe it's University of Alberta, this incredibly historic franchise that's just always

the upper echelon. But these are incredible great hockey players that are in their mid-20s. They're grown-ass men. They would destroy junior teams. It makes no sense because those kids, a lot of them play junior.

either, you know, major junior or whatever the hell, AJ and stuff. Yep. And if those kids go to a school in the States, it's still being scouted and revered. Yeah. As opposed to Canadian University hockey. The perception is the only difference. I don't think the caliber of athletes much different at all. And it is changing.

We're starting to see guys get signed. I know the Cougars last year had a guy that came in and boom, the season was over and he was off to Europe. Like, it's happening. great to see it happening. I'm trying to think which of the NHL netminders, was it Logan Thompson, the Calgaryen that he was in, I think, Carlton or somewhere in Ontario, and he's now in the NHL. It used to be seen as like the retirement home for junior players, whereas NCAA athletes reviewed as these up-and-coming youngsters, even though they're the same age. But I'm happy to say that I think it's changing. And we're starting to see even the two brothers, the flame signed

one, the Oilers sign the other, like really high profile free agent signings at EU sports. That's, that's cool to see. So I think it's changing. It is changing, but it's still far behind. Yes. And we're talking. Anyway, good luck to Dan. That's kind of cool. I like a guy coming from an Adidas place. So you think about

those kinds of companies. You've got to be cutting edge. You've got to take risks. You've got to roll the dice. You've got to be interesting. That's the type of person. I think the CFL needs running it. I was just going to say, the WHOHL and the CFL, I think the CFL is even further behind than the dub because the dub is just, it's very localized and isn't a professional sports. So you get, if your team's doing well and Swift current, they'll come out and watch.

And Prince Albert, same thing. But I do think that there's a need for, I won't call it a facelift, but a new look, cool look, get younger people to get interested in it. Because hockey's going to struggle with viewership because basketball, basketball, soccer, all great sports. And I like all sports, but there's only so much money that a family can spend on entertainment. Yeah.

And playing. And if your kids play in soccer or basketball, hockey's expensive. You have to find a way to engage with more people. Quest in the comments, noting Logan Thompson was at Brock University. There you go. Like, that's cool. You love seeing that.

No, no, no, no. This isn't the victory line. It's not a real university. helping hockey players. It's not a real. Brock's going to talk to you about this. He's got a real good setup there. Don't go raining on his parade.

But I think of what has come up in the Western League that we've talked about in the last week? It was those cool-ass jerseys. The Lake Deferbaker swamp sharks or slew sharks. That's the type of stuff where you're like, yes, this is how you engage with younger fan bases. Get them cool merch. Everyone that goes to a game's going to love it.

It's a no-brainer. You're at a live sporting event that's fun, and it's top-notch athletes. And I'll tell you what, I don't care what anyone says. The fact that there's less scrapping makes it harder. Because growing up, literally, and I'm not saying it was a good thing, literally there would be people going to watch the fights. Totally.

Yeah, it's different now, for sure. Thanks to Dan for joining us. Very good. You want to a PIN report here? I don't, but you can. Do you want to watch me do the PIN report? Do you want to wrap to me while I do this? Do you want to scroll the internet while I'm doing?

I don't want that. I'm going to accuse me of falling asleep the other day. They phoned my dad and said, your son, Philisleep on the show. Who called your dad? Peter Jack from down under. PJ. All right. How's your nephew doing over there?

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We talked about it. We led the show with it. Oh, it's the call for Dustin Wolf from the American League. Jacob Markstrom's going to be out week to week is the diagnosis rate. Now, did you ow because Markstrom hurt his finger or because Wolf so? No, that's the wolf howl. Oh, that's a howl, not an owl. If you're captioning it, it's hard.

I think if you're listening, it's probably easier to, give me an owl, give me a good owl. Ow! Yeah, that doesn't sound like a wolf. Now, give me an owl. Now, give me an owl. Aoo? No, no, that's not a wolf,

you do the wolf howl. You know, who's jacked about this? Terry from Fubar? You know, Terry's always... Oh, yeah, yeah, he'll be wound up. Ow, he loves the ows to begin with. And now Wolf's coming up. Look out. We got to get him on the show.

They'll be jacked. So what does this mean? Well, Wolf's coming up. I think he's going to get some starts here, Red. But my guess would be at Stan Vladar tonight. And by all means, if he wants to hang zeros for a week, he can keep playing. They don't have a back to back for a while. It is Dan Lillard tonight, by the way.

So there you are. As we suspected, no surprise there. Some other news in Flamesland. Look who is skating with Jacob Peltier and the Rune Dog with Michael Stone, and the development coach this morning. This is Oliver Shillington with the two injured flames, Rooney and Peltier. We saw him skating at Max Bell,

good to see him on the ice again. It's going to be difficult to talk about this, right? Because the more you came on the ice practicing with his teammates, the more people are going to want a timeline and say, get him in, get him in. Boy, it'd be great to see him. Boy, there's some ice for him.

But we don't have anything for him in terms of a timeline. Well, just judging by him being bent over there, I'd say he's out of shape. Yeah, I don't know how many. lapses game. Hopefully it was more than one. But a great sign. And that's got to be encouraging for everyone involved. All of our fans, the team, great stuff to see. Minnesota Wilder in town, they are riding the new coach bump, Rett. 3 and 0 under John Hines. That's what they look like up front. Caprice off, Rossi, and Zuccarello is the top line. Eric Seneck, Johansson, and

Boldie, your second line. And then they got some meat on this team. Marcus Felino. former Rochester American. Freddie Goddrow, a lot bigger and tougher than Johnny. And Patrick Muran, the big rig, who, of course, went, what, three Stanley Cup finals in a row? Tampa, Tampa, St. Louis? Goodness. Yep. So that's...

Noted, me Ted Hartman. He always gives it through flames. Well, and Hartman's usually way up the line. You've seen him with Caprisov and Zuccarello at times. I don't know what's going on there with Ryan Hartman on the fourth line, but okay, there he is. pairs looked like this on the back end. Brodine has been one of the best defenders of hockey in a long time, like his own end, I should say.

And that's the rookie Brock Faber who's getting lots of love. They got him in the Kevin Fiala deal when he went to L.A. Red. When you're spending 12 to 15 million a year on guys not coming to work named Souter and Parize, you're going to have to make some tough decisions. And that was getting rid of Fiala when you needed to raise. But they turned him into a Minnesota college hockey stud. Brock Faber, who's on the top pair.

He looks like he'll be a gooder for a long time. Middleton's got that great mustache. He came over from San Jose a couple of years ago. He's a favorite of booms. I have to mention the mustache with him now here. And Spurgeon, very important player for them. And then it's Merrill and Gologoski on the back end. No Dumba this year.

That's really the big change for the wild last year to this year. Also, the big change, it just doesn't be good in the standings. But 3 and O under Heinz, we'll see what they do tonight against Ryan Huska's flames. Here's a look at the gauntlet run. Where are the flames at? What have they been doing? Well, the three and two through five games, win, win, win, loss. Three games remain on the homestand.

It'll be Carolina Thursday, New Jersey, Saturday afternoon. Then a murderous three game in four-night road trip that sees yes, a back-to-back and yes, games in three different cities. And no, none of those cities are close to each other. You ever tried to drive from Denver to Vegas or Vegas to Minnesota? Do you? No, no, I haven't. Those are flights. That's the distance you're covering there.

That will be tough. No question. Moving forward, I have what I call a palette cleanser, Rhett. You know what a pallet cleanser is? I do. It's the in between meals or in between courses. Yeah, something just resets you. You don't have to taste that garlic anymore.

Here we go. Let's get out of the super hyper today focus on the flames. I stumbled across some beautiful photos, and I just think it'll make everyone in it. Look at this. Are you kidding me? Learning how to read. He's learning how to read.

Those kids are teaching them how to read. That is unbelievable. I saw this. I was jacked. And then there's more Jerome reading to kids. Still the alternate there. What a stud. Whenever you're worried about this team, just remember that guy,

he's talking to Connie every day, Red. I feel like that he's an ally, right? He's going to help us through these tough times. Are they good? Are they bad at in the middle? this guy learning how to raise get him out of the team he was so great in the community

wasn't he? No terrible he didn't smile or get involved no oh wait yeah he did he was great and my kids ran into him the first time at development camp this spring so he was new to the organization and I was not there there with another kid and their dad and the dad's like oh my god

that's Jerome McGillah they're like hey Jerome and he's like I just run to the washroom he's like can we get one photo real quick. I say, yep, let's do it. Pitcher, done. Boom. Boys reject.

He doesn't say no enough. Exactly. Too nice. Too nice. He's not nice when he's on the ice. I hope he's not nice. I used to have to say no form when idiots would come sit with us at supper out and about just sit down beside us and start talking.

Hey, Jerome. I'm just going to join in for a moment. Can you F off, bud? Like, you're his, you were his, uh, Dome, the Philly security guy. Yes. He was long arms.

You'd carry people away. I think you needed a handle. yet a few. The NHL last night, a bunch of great stories to get into a thousand games on the blue line for all,

well, one of these Victor Headmans. See the jerseys? They all have the number of the thousand on the back. You might play another thousand, that guy. Isn't he unbelievable?

Wow. Vic Hadman, just a few cups, a few Norrises and a thousand games in the regular season, never mind the post season. What do you think of

when you think of headman? Nicholas Liddstrom. Calm, cool, big, smooth, never under pressure, always in the right position. Like, smart. Yeah. Do you think he'd ever fart when someone was doing an interview, though, next to him? I doubt it. Someone did last night for Tampa.

Here's Andre Vasiliski. Let's have a listen. Turn it up to your mind in the last 48 hours from the end of the game on Saturday to the start of this one? Um, yeah, I mean, obviously it wasn't great feeling. Uh, last game, but, um, uh, last game, but, um, who was doing that? Pedman wouldn't do that. You know what, though? The whole world is, the whole world is laughing.

There's something about a fart. Everybody just giggles. You and my eight-year-olds would agree. Farts are the funniest thing possible ever. Close the case. The coyotes are on a weird run, Red. Get this. Heading into yesterday's game,

they'd won four in a row all against the last four cup champions. So Vegas last year, Colorado the year before that, Tampa the two years before that, and then the blues before that. Isn't that wild? Well, the blues, I guess, were like there was one in the middle there.

So last night they played Washington. Hold on. Washington won a cup in there, too. And they beat them. They beat the wheels off of them. I think six nothing rats. The Yotes have got five consecutive victories against the last five teams to lift the cup. Whoa.

Five years ago was a long time. Oh, yeah. I know. It's more just like the randomness of this is quite. Impressive. Interesting. Gotcha. I'm not here to tell you that the Yotes are going to win the cup this year, nor that the blues are a powerhouse these days. But I don't even know how many chances a scheduler maker would give a team to do this. Maybe zero since in the last five years. That's wild.

In the comments, by the way, swag is noting farting will never not be funny, which is a double negative that means farting is always funny. trying to think of the odd scenario. It may push your luck a few times, but it's still, if people are good heart. If people are goodhearted, it's still a chuckle. Like if you're in church, you're going to get in trouble, but you know your boys are just dying.

They're dying beside you. They're like face red, like going to explode in. It's funny. Trust me. My wife doesn't think this is funny. Big games tonight. The LA Kings can make

NHL history retro. They will try to match the longest road winning streak to they still haven't lost on the road we're in December oh my God long time that's incredible lots of home games

I don't know I think they're doing whatever else is doing some of them and then we get the Hughes Bowl first ever Hughes Bowl all three Hugheses Luke and Jack in New Jersey and of course Quinn in Vancouver stalls would kick their ass stalls would want to fight but if it's three on three

I'm taking the Hughes all day you know who'd win all those is the Sutter's because they can just feel they can make line changes they got two lines these guys are gassed we'll send us a fresh bodies twins you ready let's go that's wild that's incredible stuff here's the full slate there it is kings and columbus well it's guaranteed night win night for the kings as well isn't that something so they want the record and Columbus you can't get fat and sassy looking at your next one to set the record you just got to keep doing what you're doing rangers have been excellent they're in ottawa where their owner did not give a vote of confidence to DJ Smith so much as acknowledges the angst

amongst the fan base. Wings and sabers, two teams we thought maybe one of them would be good enough to get into the postseason. I don't think many of us thought it'd be Detroit, Rat. That's been the way it's gone. And they just recalled Devin Levi, I believe, today because Pekuiluku, Tukalukukukukukin is ill today. Speaking of Buffalo

Golden, Buffalo Great and Jersey in the rafters, Ryan Miller was kicking around the rink here this morning. Me, okay. Remember when you took one of them and went to the game and they're like, no, no, he definitely deserved. I was never retired. That was my bad.

Yeah. Whoops, forgot some of those things. What else did we got on the slate? Sharks and Islanders. Nashville, Chicago. Okay. Minnesota, Calgary tonight will obviously have an afterburn of tonight, myself in Cammy in studio, to break down the first of a couple of games against the wild here

in a short span. And then it's the ducks. They've cooled off after a hot start in Colorado. Good luck with that. And then the Hughes Bowl to cap it. Something's not right. New Jersey. They've called up Simon Nemich.

Dougie Hamilton's on IR. They haven't been getting goaltending. We thought this was a cup contender and they still might be, but they're what, 500 right now? Well, that's one of those scenarios where the goaltending hasn't maybe turned out the way they were hoping. They're kind of no-name goaltenders, but they played well last year.

So they thought they'd copy that. game plan and it's just not going that way. Yeah, it was Vanichek last year and then Schmead, the youngster, was great. But just because you were good when you were 19 or 20, doesn't mean your 21-year-old season is getting even better. It's, you know how goalies work. It's volatile.

Let's go to the Calgary Hitman. We talked about the teddy bear toss on the weekend. Over 21,000 bears. Here are these, look at these good. Good, hardworking young fellas. Look at these good Canadian boys. Had it out teddy bears. Let's go!

Good stuff here. And they got the Christmas jersey on. See the snow on the numbers? Had no snow on the ground. You did notice that too, hey? It's lovely. No snow. Also, fellas flood in the rink.

We're getting a little nervous here because high today. It's already five. 13. That's not dice-making weather. No good. You have to buy a. Was that, who was it, Dregs that had the ice making machine? You could buy that.

Yeah, there's the, I don't know if there's enough for everyone, but that's true. And look at this. This is how warm it is, right? The city of Calgary. Love it. All times at Maple Ridge and Shaggin' Happy Point. The city owned courses, they're good, you rock and roll. That was yesterday you could book T-T-T.

People are golfing today. Holy shit. What a time to be a lot. I don't know if I should be scared or excited. Maybe a little both, eh? Yeah, be excited. Do you like Dean. Just take everything pause.

Just look at the bright side and really soak in the possibilities of what could be. This is getting crazy with Shohia Otani, Red. Oh. Guess where he was yesterday? The hockey hall thing. He was in Dunedin, Florida, which is known for, well, the Blue Jays spring training site and development complex. this guy's a baseball nerd. This guy does not have fancy cars

and he's not Derek Jeter out on the town. He is a nerd of nerds for baseball and very intrigued to see the $100 million training facility that Jays completed in just 2021 a few years ago. This is like, Shohay's interested, Red, or he does not show up to the development complex. And some people are reporting, it's the Dodgers of the Jays, that's it, closed book.

We don't know it's shrouded in secrecy, but the insiders are basically saying, Dodgers are still the favorite, but there's obviously interested in the Blue Jays if he's showing up at their spring facility. Now, do we agree on the blue jackets or was it? Please give us good things in Toronto.

I can drive up there, watch them. I'll be able to watch playoff baseball. You should reach out to Evander Cain. He was taking the helicopter from Buffalo. How much is it? I don't know. It's a great way to view that Jay's guys. His teammates didn't like it very much,

but God, he could get back and forth really quick. There's got to be some helipad downtown, right? don't need to go to the airport. But I don't have teammates, so the hell of them. Wherever they are. Family members, screw them, whatever. Roommates, not teammates. Manningcast podcast, you know what?

They do the Monday Night Football game, right? Yeah, they do. Regular ESPN channel would have Monday Night Football, I believe. And then it's, no, Jack sent me this screenshot. I have one question. What the hell is going on? What are they looking at? There's a couple ladies in the hot tub, I guess.

I don't know. Where's the pool? that is a glass-sided pool they have at the stadium in jacksonville oh so the camera went to the pool and the manning brothers look like a bunch of frat boys all fired up they've been set up poor guys oh they didn't see it coming the producers like we're going to go to a slow motion replay really want your attention here oh it's the it's the pool in jacksonville they also had two up playing guitar last night did you see that let's get in by now. I didn't watch them. To us, I know you don't like their AFC East rivals,

but Tua can play guitar. Tears in heaven. And quarterback. Yes. Yeah, both those things. All right, we got a lot of dumb shit.

Here's in heaven. How depressing. Like, yeah, it is, you know what? He didn't sing the lyrics, though.

It was just showcasing his guitar skills. It's a love of the melody. That's not the one I would pick. Yeah. Here's a song about some people dying. All right. Yeah. Oh.

That's what boomer would do. Come on, Tua, be better. Pomer's got a guitar. Have you ever heard him play it? No, he's a gear head. He's not a guitar player. All right. This is an incident.

I don't know what level of hockey this is, but I'm hoping this isn't you or Rob Ray with these kids you're coaching because the lines didn't do a great job here. Lines was not tied up with the player. It comes them to the end. And now the other people are showing. I love this. That's amazing.

Wow. That's Rob. off the bench. He punched that kid then? It looked like they must have entangled up the two players after fighting and the linesman sort of grabs him and then they start jostling a bit

and the players ends up on the ice and the lines him's not. It kind of looks like shoves him a bit. That's a punch. He did fire one. Jeez. And the coach, spear. Goal love it. You know what? Fair is fair. I'm with the coach

on that one. The coach will be suspended indefinitely for life. But I'm, you know what? That's not right. Two wrongs don't maybe make a right, but I'll tell you what. I would be doing the same thing. Rett, if you see that coach,

you got to buy me a beer. That's a rule. Absolutely. I'll pay for his kids hockey. Careful. That's getting any smooth. There's a game you play called Florida Man. And you type Florida Man and your birthday into Google and you can learn all kinds of crazy things and it's fun

and everyone has a Florida man story. I don't know what the date of this is, but this was a new one for Florida man. Florida man breaks into jail to smoke a blunt with his friend. You've heard of people breaking out of jail. You've definitely heard of people smoking blunts with friends. This man broke into jail to do it. Medium security.

Medium security. That is some level of really wanting to see your pal. Wasn't there a show about the guys at Ultimate Beer Run or something where they took beer to Vietnam for their buddies in the war? I don't know. That sounds unreal. Boom would probably love this or hate this. He would not be indifferent.

You're a food guy? Take a look. This is one of our listeners. No, he's not liking that. That looks like some sort of bologna products. Well, it's pickles and bologna. A lot of gelatin in there. With whipped cream on top.

That is new. That's a binary, right? It's a thumbs up or a thumbs down. And down it is. Jack? two thumbs down. Okay. I'm also, sorry, J.C.

That's not going to do it for me either. O for three. Would boom, get a little puky on this one or no? It might. I don't know. A gentleman always gets them, you know? Yeah. Yeah.

Wait. Falls the, the greatest beer run ever. Falls the true story. Oh, wait. No, come on. This was a movie that came out a couple years ago. Yeah. 2022.

Falls the true story of Donna. Hugh, who as a young veteran, sneaks into the Vietnam War to deliver beer to his friends who are serving duty. That's commitment. That is very similar. You wouldn't do that for me, Pinder. I, I'm not a veteran. I'm not savvy in the ways of the Vietnamese jungle. If you were in jail, I'd break in a smoke a blunt with you, though, all right?

I got to go to Vietnam to have some food. I would have good food there. Too much beverage here. And I believe this is similar to you at McMahon a few years ago. Remember you got in trouble at McMahon? it's a judgment, right? Some people say too much. Some people say too little.

But, okay, let's see. Well, the washroom lines get long, and you've got to go. Like, I mean, what do you want to do? He's getting out of fire. Give me a car. The only fire is this burning desire to be at this game this one. You're going to get tossed. Are you fucking serious?

It's games. Unreal. So, what was that? conversation like with security. Somebody. What is he peeing on? It's like a pillar or something. Oh.

Maybe it is a fire. Don't do that at the football game. Cops don't like it. Yeah. I believe we have some footage from one of Booms' kids. Now, he's at a beach somewhere. I don't know if it's an all-inclusive, but... Belly flop.

All you got to do is just pretend to be sober and no one will know, Red. No one will know. Oh. Oh, the old burp puke. It'll get you. The bug. The bug, sunglasses are on. He's looking good.

Oh, dear. And then look at this. He's looking back. Did anyone see that? Am I busted? Am I busted? Because he pukes right into the, oh, God. That's what the bucket's there for, I guess.

It's that right? It's foam and puke here. Watch this video and just tell me what you're watching. Holy me. Who's writing the script on these. Red Bull act. I'm going to need more than a Red Bull to try that. Holy.

So, okay, he's got a drone that he starts wake surfing behind. And then there's a big jump and he takes the wake surf off the jump. And we now realize. He's wake surfing off the 100th floor of a building. We now realize that was a pool at the top of a skyscraper that he was surfing on. And he pulls out a parachute about a third of the way down, two thirds of the way down the building. Definitely not in, uh, Jacksonville, I'm guessing, Dubai.

That looks very Dubai-esque, yes. Holy. There's a lot there. There's plenty there. I would be happy on that beach at the bottom or in that pool at the top of the cocktail. I don't need anything in the middle. Give me that video camera. I don't operate.

I don't want to deal with. If that's how you get your kicks, where does it end? I just don't know what you can do next. What's your next? No parachute? If that's a gateway drug, I don't know what's harder than that. You just wake surfed off a hundred-story building into a dive with a parachute. Like, that is insane.

Oh. We got some video from your house. I think it was one of your kids playing a trick, and there's a couple in on it because one's filming. This is the shoveler. She's making a nice pie here. Now, that's one of the middle names of your kids, obviously. Great. Yeah.

There's always one mischievous one, right? My boys wouldn't do that. Oh, that wasn't you. Okay. Must be in laws. And finally, we have some closure. We have a closure. We have resolution with the lost kangaroo east of Toronto.

Who knew? You were going to be on the big story of the morning, Megan. Woohoo. Tell us all about how this came to an end. Yeah, I mean, we headed up here this morning, Heather, thinking we were going to be reporting on the kangaroo. still being missing and we arrived to learn the happy news, the hoppy news that the kangaroo has been caught safe and sound and is now here at the Oshawa Zoo. And yes, it is several days that the

kangaroo was on the loose. She was on her way to Quebec with another kangaroo and making a pit stop here sort of to stay at like a kangaroo hotel basically, a rest stop on the way to Quebec. And when the handlers were unloading her, she bolted and made a run for it. And, had been on the loose since then. A lot of people in the community on the lookout for her, volunteers searching for her. She was spotted several times, but evaded capture until this morning.

And we're going to bring in staff sergeant, Chris Boilow, to hear the story of how the kangaroo was captured because it was actually some of your officers who managed to find her. Tell us what happened. So just after 3 a.m., some of our officers were on patrol in North Oshawa. They managed to actually locate the wayward marsupial in a driveway.

Wayward marsupial. They kept eyes on it for a couple of hours. We attempted to make contact with animal control and a few other community partners. Got best practices about how to try to apprehend it safely. And just before seven, two of our members from East Division actually ended up grabbing it by the tail and successfully held her down. She was cold, hungry, but she was unharmed otherwise. Look, we need a name for this kangaroo, Rhett. What a star.

Stupid. Well, they're all dumb is what we're learning. And it's just like, and here we are. Look at this. Strong contender for headline of the year. Escape Kangaroo punches police officer in the face before Oshua capture. Love it. Violence to the bastard.

Yeah. I'm not, I'm not on board with. That's two days in row with kangaroo news. And I've got an inkling. There'll be more kangaroo news tomorrow. I also like the fact that here in Canada, that's big news. outside of the GTA this would be as exciting as things

guess in Oshua, the schwa. Wayward marsupial, to quote that. Staff sergeant. Staff sergeant was very comfortable on camera right. He was okay with that. He looked sharp. Yeah, just got the beard trimmed. There we go. Wayward marsupio. Village Honda

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The teaser is golf course. Sorry, I just, I have to. We can't stop with the kangaroos. It started with Ozzy Brad, and we just, now people just, send me kangaroo stuff all day.

And please keep doing it on Twitter and Instagram. No, please stop. Boom has been telling us about his journey with the hearing loss clinic. We saw his first visit where he headed out there and got his ears tested. Oh my goodness, there's an issue here. And he went through the whole journey of, oh my gosh, do what hearing is? What are we talking about? And then put him on.

Oh my gosh, I'm hearing everything. This is amazing. It's time for another check-in with the boom cat and the hearing loss clinic. Well, buddies, update. It's been a few months now since I've been wearing my hearing aids from the hearing loss clinic I've told you about how big of a difference they've made it just wanted to give you a little bit of a run-through and let you know just what kind of a difference Well after the assessment I came home told the family that I was going to be getting hearing aids they were floored They didn't think there was anything wrong with my hearing at all

What? What? What? What? What? Hmm. Truthfully though when Hannah told me after the assessment that I was a candidate for hearing aids. Honestly, it was kind of bummed out. I was going to be a guy that's wearing hearing aids now. You get told that kind of news, it's hard to hear. Well, not hard to hear in the... It was just wrapping my head around being a guy that wears hearing aids. And now that I've worn them for so long and I've gotten used to how much of a difference they make, I don't know. It was silly. These are mine. Come in this case. Doubles as a charging box or whatever you want to call it. There's practically nothing to them. They're

light, they just sit on the top of your ear. If you have worn any kind of an earbud or a headphone, you're going to be fine. And the kind that I have, they actually double as a headphone. I don't need to take these out and put headphones in. I don't have to put headphones in, take them out, put these back in. It's awesome. The main thing people will ask is, so what do they do? What's the difference that they make? For me, it was the high end of things. I do this hand thing when I talk about it. It's the best way I can describe it. Think of it if you were listening to music and then somebody pull all the high end, the treble all the way down, Charlie Brown's teacher.

So this is what it would sound like with the hearing aids in, hearing things clearly, hearing all the high end stuff, and then all of a sudden if you took the hearing aids out, it might sound like this, you know, you lose all the high end and only you hear the long stuff, you don't hear that stuff, right? You know what I'm saying? Can you hear me? You know what I'm saying? Another thing that I've noticed is I've been listening to pretty much everything way louder than I needed. I'm at home watching a TV or a movie or something. Way too loud. I had everything cranked up so that I could hear what people were saying or hear the words when in fact it was just the high end I was missing.

Now with these, I find I'm turning things down volume-wise all the time. I even notice it when I'm driving, specifically with the radio or before I'd have to have the thing cranked or I just would have the thing cranked. Now I find, if anything, it's always. It's always way... It's always way too loud. Conversations now, totally better. I'm not doing the old turn and lean anymore. Huh?

Huh? And I realize it now and looking back how often I would have been in conversations with people and not really be hearing what's going on. I'll still do my very scientific test every once in a while. I'll come home at the end of the day, take them out, just to see, is it really making that big of a difference? Once you're used to hearing everything and then you take them out

and it's... again, pretty happy that that's not how I have to live anymore. People at the Hearing Loss Clinic are the best, and it's not just the assessing of the science in your ears to figure out what's wrong. It's kind of the human side of it. They get it. It's not news that you want to hear. News you want to hear. I did it again. What the fuck this was? Or if it's about being out in public and being seen wearing hearing aids, you saw the size of mine, they're tiny. Yeah, there was a day where you'd have those huge, big, plastic beige things in your ear with, like, dials and,

switches and stuff. Uh, yeah, breaker breaker 1-9 coming in, yeah, uh-huh. Plus everybody wears headphones and stuff nowadays. Go to the mall, get on a bus, the gym, the office. Everyone has headphones in. They're wearing some sort of earbud thing. Trust me, you're just gonna be some other guy or girl with something in your ear.

So don't wait, just do it. Maybe you'll go and they'll say, you've got nothing wrong with your hearing, it's fine, it's perfect, awesome. Great, but if there's an issue, you're in the greatest hands you could be. Hearingloss.com is the website. just book an assessment for yourself. So listen up.

Hear me now. Listen to the sound of my voice. Hearingloss.com. Book an assessment. You'll be happy you did. It's as happy as he's looked in a long time, I tell you. Looks different with a hat off too. And oddly enough,

I wish there was a hearing loss clinic here because was it known as for breakfast this morning? And she's having issues with her. Mm-hmm. That's normal. The locations in Calgary include Shaughnessy, University District, northwest in the Crowfoot Business Center, and the North Hill Professional Offices,

also another fifth location on the way. And if you're outside of Calgary, how about in BC, Cranbrook, Creston, Fernie, Golden, and Invermere. So there you are. Thanks to our good pals of the Hearing Loss Clinic for brightening at least a few hours of Boomer's life. Yes. I mean, it's the Lord's work.

Thank you. We need you more often. Can he come around a little more? You can do this everyday place? I hope he's having a good time. Well, we haven't heard from him, so I'm sure it's smashing. I think it's also very early there,

although he usually is up scrolling the internet at the middle of the night, so he would be probably up anyway. Maybe he just needs to live there, and then his hours would make more sense. I mean, he's got a home studio. It could be, the home could be anywhere. He's got a home studio.

Good thoughts. Let's do our, well, Okay, so we've got two options. I can tell you what's on the slate tonight for sports, what's on the menu for DoorDash, or we look at some of the pictures and thoughts queries that people have regarding our barn, burner, blonde beer from origin brew. Beer. Beer.

Beer it is. Beer first, then DoorDash. So I don't know if you knew about this. We're kind of a big deal. We got our own beer. We've done a lot of cool things. We've traveled a lot of places. We've interviewed some amazing people.

but the absolute peak of Mount Everest in career achievements. We have our own beer, and not only is it just a beer, it's an absolutely sensational beer. It is the Bar-Burner-Blon from Origin Brewing, fifth-generation farmers from the farm to your glass, one of just two breweries in the country. There's no middleman here, Red. They grow the barley, they malt the barley,

they use the malt to make the beer, to pour in the tap room, to go in Pinder's belly. It's impressive stuff. We launched the beer last Tuesday. you were there. We had a great night. It was a capacity crowd in Strathmore. Big thank you to everyone that came out. Started selling that night. Mandipe brought some in to BK. Beaufort Liquor on Thursday. He's already ordered a massive second order. It's starting to get into the old Alberta liquor system. We're not quite there, but you'll start seeing it pop up

around town in liquor stores. Be sure to ask your local liquor store and or watering hole. Hey, have you heard about origin brewing? Could you get some in? It's great stuff. And I'm super proud of the blonde, very crushable indeed. It's what you want. It's not like, wow, that's unique. I'll have one and then I'll try it again in three months. Nope.

Keep those coming. Those are great. And we can see some of the fellows in the comments, loving the beer as well. So we told you, if you're going to try the beer, take a picture, we're putting you on the show. Now, this is our boy, Mark, who lives in Boston. Barneburner fan. He's a Flames fan. He's a University of Miami fan.

He's, I think, Miami Dolphins. He's all over, man. I don't know what the story is, but he's a flames guy, so he loves Barnburner. So it's my first ever trip to Calgary. I'm super stoked. Where downtown can I get the Barnburner blonde? That's where I'm staying. Well, Mark, we're going to have lots of places down the road in downtown, but it's so new.

We're not there yet. So what we're going to do, we'll talk to Mandy. We'll deeper at BK, Fort Liquor. We'll try to get you something set up. We'll connect the two of them on Twitter. And if you're only Calgary for the first time ever, we've got to make sure it's a great experience. He's going to go to the dome. And he's got to go to the dome.

Now look at this, Bax! You're not sharing your beer if your dog's giving you that face. That's, Dad's being a hog face. Go back to that. That's good stuff. Yeah, that's a, come on, man. Pour it in the bowl.

Don't say I like it when you won't let me try it. Open it and put it in the bowl. Look at the beer fridge, too. The custom flames beer fridge in the back. Wood paddling. Like that's a good setup. Barber to Blonde. Here's, I made a boo-boo.

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And Jack's spelling is atrocious. He nailed this one. So it isn't as hard as it could be. If Jack can do it, anybody can. If Jack can spell it, I mean, there's no excuses for anyone else. Try to get him to spell Otani. 20 tries before he's close. What's on the menu for DoorDash?

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DoorDash has got it all. Coff medicine. That's a good one. I mean, I don't know how you're feeling. Who wasn't? Muconix. Mucinx. Is that what Ukupukalukinen is dealing with in Buffalo?

I don't know. He's down and out. He's down and out. So he'll be calling DoorDash, I'm sure. very simple. Just get the app, install it, and we got a deal for your first order on the DoorDash app. It's easy. Choose what you want. Your items will be left safely outside your front door with our default contactless delivery setting. And you can order for multiple stops along the way with just one single delivery. That's easy. Double dash on DoorDash. That's a thing. Don't worry about cooking dinner or running to the store. Let it all come to you with DoorDash for a limited time.

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Wild are favored tonight, Rhett. despite looking up at the flames and the standings, if I'm correct. Three in a row under John Hines, they're feeling it. I worry about this game a little more than I would have a week ago. But what are you worried about? Carl Caprice off.

That's what I'm worried about. I know, but you're not going to be upset. We don't have to. That's true. Yeah. No, it's, you're right. We are in the driver's seat, you and I pender because if they play well and they have a success,

great we've got a victory to celebrate with the with the blonde if they lose great we got a draft pick to celebrate with the blonde right it's a clear mo of what to do here we don't want connie getting stuck in the middle here rat he gets confused give him some clarity we need to give him gone right that's what they call get iggy on speakerphone and talk this out And intelligent and confused Conroy will have all things. That's 7 o'clock start.

Minus 115 on that way is bothering me. The shuffler is, if anyone's listening that knows the shubber, text her and tell her to stop sending me. Then I'd be texting on the show. You shouldn't have her number. Wait a minute.

Oh, that's just a little bastard. Deleting messages. I knew it. I knew it. Canada and Australia are playing a friendly in women's soccer tonight in Vancouver. Why are we talking about it? It's usually talking about women's.

It is the final game ever for Christine Sinclair. The greatest scorer in the history of women's soccer. Christine Sinclair's final match tonight, 8 o'clock on one soccer. The app, it's also a channel on your TELUS TV, if you've got that one. All right. Canada, Australia, Australia, Mike. Now, she made me almost cry that Christine Sinclair. She's so passionate about the game.

she plays with it. And apparently, the people that know Christine better than we do, which would be massive soccer fans, Stephen Brunter wrote a book about her, things like that. She's played, I think, five games with crowds and more than 50,000 people. I think she's scored in all five. It was like World Cups and Olympics. She's not messing around. So we'll see what you can do tonight as a farewell. They've renamed the stadium Christine Sinclair Place for the night. Love it. The Vancouver Science Center is going to be turned into a red and white soccer ball. The whole stadium's got LED lights that are going to be red and white. She is literally one of the greatest athletes our nation's ever produced.

Period. Stop. And we'll be celebrated tonight in BC expecting a huge crowd right. I've heard over 30,000 people. Yes. Love it. That's 8 o'clock, Flames Wild at 7. That's what's on the menu for DoorDash. Again, that promo code, Nation 25 dash that for the win. Can we do a quick poll? Could we do polls, Jack? Are you a pollster? No, no, we'll just have to do people that are listening.

It's got to be live. I got to pick quick. I'm getting harassed here by the shoveler. Apparently, the youngster needs a new jacket. Do you go with the, just black? Oh, that's a puff one, you know, black puff vest. The kind of the brownie, yellowy and black. It looks like a safety vest.

What are we doing there? Or the blue and kind of black, great. I you can't go wrong with all black man I'm with you I'm with you styles come and go that uh just rock solid black monochrome not gonna be a problem all right pender well you just text her and let her well the message might delete she won't see it later as you glances has begun damn snapchat everyone's saying black by the way yeah all going 80% black right now yeah that orange one with the black in the middle that looks like a minion with a black vest on He's a huge venue, fans, so maybe.

But I'm with you, black. And the blue is okay, but black's just, you could. Blue, you know what the blue feels like? It feels like you're trying too hard. Yeah. You know what else? Blue's for a six-year-old, five, six-year-old. And Bill's fans as we're seeing on our screens.

You're right. It's a boy, blue. Right? Like you're young. Yes. Yeah, okay. Betway, bets today. Thanks, everyone.

I told you that Minnesota's favored in Calgary tonight, but what we've not told you is how our football picks went on the weekend, Red. Betway, bet the responsible way, 19 plus Ontario only. Get on your phone, get on your desktop, wherever you're doing your things where your computing's happening,

you're texting, you're deleting messages, Rhett. Get the Betway on there. Get them on there. Look at it. That's the front door. Are you kidding me? Three for three.

He is rolling. It's two reasons for Boomer to be happy today. Jeez. I'm so glad he's not here with an arrogance. I know. Yeah, that'd be tough. Arizona and easy cover. They upset Pittsburgh.

Never mind the five and a half points. Detroit did hang on to beat New Orleans. That was a little more tense than I think they wanted. You know what? They got up early in that one. Wasn't it like 21-0 at one point? Isn't that what Detroit does? Worland Storm back and that was an actual game.

Miami just throttled Washington. He's been riding Miami for like two months here. They have been winning by a lot. Three and oh. Rett 21 and 15, that might be the best record of the group. You're in trouble here. It will be. He'll be beating me by one because I don't think I went three and oh. Okay. Next, Jack.

Oh. Oh, no. I was on a heater. I think I had gone five weeks. weeks without a losing record. You were. Miami. Good.

Jacksonville gross last night. Are you kidding me? What are they doing? I'm happy with Jacksonville losing because I don't think Cincinnati's, but what is? They don't have a quarterback in Cincinnati. Jake Browning. His name was pants browning before yesterday.

He was great. Oh, Red rifle. Retro, two and one. Not bad. So you're 20. And again, you know what? I'm 2 and 1.

I'm 20 and 16 and I guarantee 10, 12 of those 16 losses are heart losses. That your heart. Miami. Can't pick Miami because I. You did all right. The chargers, I thought the line was, like they, 6-0. That is gross. And that line moved to 6-9.

a half by Sunday. You got that at the right day. You would have lost that if it was a game day bet, but of course, you wouldn't have made it then because you're such a sharp. You know, you're following these lines. Every half point matters. Rams, no sweat. They went outright by a bit over Cleveland, I believe that Karen Williams touching out at the end. Thank you very much.

And yeah, you're going against Miami, man. It was your heart that got in the way. It did. Oh, did Pittsburgh lose, Jack? Yeah, tell us, Jack, for the, for the, we need the, the 15th swerve of the season. Are you in or out? We'll get there.

Like, I'm a sharp, obviously. Obviously. I have the two games and I'm like with Red. Like, I'm betting with my heart and Pittsburgh screwing me. Yeah. I'm done betting on them. I can't put them in my bet. He's done.

I won't bet on them again this year unless like it's a really obvious bet. I mean, this felt like it, but I'm not betting on them. I actually thought it was. The games. I'm not putting them in my in my betway picks. Like look at those are two great picks. Sam Fran dominated. The Rams

dominated. Yeah, those aren't close. And I bet with my heart and they bit me in the ass. You're even worried about that line. You're like, geez, I thought Philly would be the favorite here, but I still like San Francisco. You stuck with it. You were right on that. The only thing you're not right on is the team you pay the most attention to you. That's the Steelers.

Yeah. So you're done betting. We're done betting. Because you said that in week four. Yeah. And then they're going to wrap. We need to make a packed, Jack. We don't bet with our hearts. We don't bet with our hearts. We don't bet with our hearts. We don't bet with our brains.

Don't bet with their hearts. This is a good little battle we got. So we got two of you, boom and Rhett, vying for the championship on the show. And I think Jack and I are within one or two as well. So. Yeah, we're tied for last. We're fighting for not last. This is a great finish to the season.

How many weeks left? there's now 18 weeks this is the last week coming up right here week 14 of fantasy football regular seasons then you'll be into playoffs with weeks 15 16 and 17 and then wake 18 is not a fantasy football week because so many teams will just rest their good players it would screw up a fantasy season and then we're into the playoffs man

short strokes did you get your uh ex no you got uh you get you get you more chaste I lost old Jamar the one guy. Yeah. Okay. So maybe you did get your ex. Or, no, it's updated.

I don't see an X, but no, you're not, you haven't clinched yet. There's a lot of teams at seven and six. My God, six teams at seven and six. That's why you're not clinched yet. Good luck. One more win and you're in. Punch your ticket, Red, would you?

Oh, okay. Please. Please. Betway 19 plus, bet the responsible way, Ontario only. Thanks for partnering up with us, Betway, having a lot of fun. By the way, Steelers, Patriots, Thursday night football. The over-under is 30. The lowest since 1993, I think I saw.

How gross is that? So the Steelers, they have not eclipsed 10 points in a while, have they, Jack? They had 16 against the bank. Okay, sorry. So 16 is the high water mark for the last three weeks? Correct. Gross. Patriots at home, zero points last week.

30 feels low or feels high. excuse me like i i i'm not afraid of the under there remandre stevenson sprain high ankle sprain the only problem with 30 is any type of fluke point could it's true like a kick like a special team's touch on you're like yeah yeah pick six or blocked punt like anyway and it's like pickets out and he's hurt tickets they've gone to billy or zaffy or whatever his name is billy jaffy billy from Nesson's playing quarterback for the Patriots. What's his name? Zappi.

What's the first name? I'm forgetting. Bailey. Bailey. You're just great intermission work on Nesson. Love Bailey. Yeah. I like to finish.

We're playing for something. We got to come up with the punishment for last place. I was going to say we do. We do need something. Now you leave in boomer's hands and it's going to be something revolting, perverted or just way too over the top. We don't need a 42 nugget punishment here, but there's got to be something. Well, we'll think on it.

Okay, good. No, just workshop with that. back with that later what's uh what you got to tell you about the team tonight bladar was great in his last outing they beat vegas at home don't kick i would be as my gut tells me the flames will give you the same type of performance i think they've kind of found a they've found their bumpers on the bowling lane or okay they kind of they're good but they're not great they're working they're not right they're kind of it'll be all right i would be more concerned with Minnesota looks like they might have found some life in their new coach.

And we were all a little underwhelmed with where they were at and perhaps they're rounding into form. 113 points two years ago, 103 last year and just lost at sea this year with the same roster. All of a sudden three wins in a row. Caprizov's the best player on the ice period stop. If he wants to have a night, there's not a lot you can do about it. But in this sport, goaltending trumps anything. And if Dan Valador wants to play, like you did two Mondays to go against Vegas. Why not the flames? We'll see.

I hope he's good. It'd be nice if you had a marketable asset here. You don't have to trade Dan Vlodar. You can love them. You can keep them. Just be worth the $2.2.2 million. The team's paying them so that if you do get a good deal, you can make a good deal.

2 to 1. Oh, low scoring. Remember, Minnesota on a Tuesday was always 2 to 1. It is Minnesota on a Tuesday. It was Tuesday, Minnesota, 2 to 1. Well, Brett, you're not on afterburn of tonight, so why don't you try on this hockey game, see if it's the cure for insomnia? I haven't slept well, the kind of scoped is. Maybe I'll do.

What else can we tell you, line-up-wise, we haven't seen a lot of Walker-doer, and the extra defenseman is Big Red, Solov. I haven't loved Osterly this year. I think Denise Gilbert has been just fine on the left side. Would you entertain a, uh, I think that you, I think you do. I think you cycle through. Osterly and, uh, Slov, Yov and D. Simone, even though he's down there and worried about losing him on waivers. Yeah, keep those guys fresh.

Make them earn it. Yes. And I'm not, uh, suggesting that, uh, it has to be tonight. but I don't think you bring up Solov to not play him at all. I think you want to get him in. He was fine when you put him in earlier in the season in that short. And if you can get a seventh rounder to turn into something, correct? He's a seventh rounder.

It looks like Pospisal's not playing in it. He's beaten the odds already, Solov, Big Red, by just even signing a contract and playing in the American League, right? It's an incredible story that he could be the first kid to play out of that draft round already at the NHL. It's good. And, look, Pike Bomb, Pike Bomb in the comment. Pospisal out, Gilbert out, Solo and Duer are in. You can add that comment for us, Jackie.

That's not just some schlub in the comments. It's a Pike bomb. Ryan Pike, Flames Nation.C.A. So that would tell me that Walker Dure enters the fold. We'll see who gets to play the right side of the Cadre and Zeri line, because that's been where Pospisal has been. Do you put Dure there? Do you slide up a Dylan Dubey.

Dupe's up. I like Duvali up there, give him a chance, get a little fire playing with, sorry, it's worked for everyone else. And it'll be Sloviav and Osterly

on the back end. Okay. I'm a little surprised with that because there's some meat in the Minnesota lineup. I think POSO is dealing with something. I don't think this. I'm not talking about Posposal.

Solo's big boy. Dura's big. I know he's big, but Gibby Gilbert will scrap. And I think there's a few of those guys That's 100% fair. And I wonder if he's dealing with something too. He fights every fourth game

is a flame, I swear. It's like, so who knows? Maybe you're trying to protect the guy. We'll see. Yeah, maybe we'll see. Okay. Pretty much does it. Christine Sinclair, kick some ass tonight. Cammy and I love Afterburner. Rett's

2-1, you're saying? We'll figure out who later. 2-1. That's your final score. 7 p.m. Puck drop. And you said you're coming back to town for a while. This was on air. You said that? Big debate. There's a, I've got to be in Detroit.

Detroit. Play a game early on Detroit on the 17th. And I either haul back to Toronto and hop on a flight and get home. Or go to the Bill's Cowboys game with Keller. And then come home to next thing. I know what I do. It's not a tough one. You go to the fucking Bill's and Cowboys.

That's a tough schedule. Kansas City and then that one later. Oh man. We're just in Philly. Also, you're going to get Phoenix coming up. You got potentially a Toronto thing that we're learning about. Maybe you're in Jasper. Traveling man, rats.

Come travel with us. We're in Phoenix, Jan 11 to 13. Everybody, Calgary. Jaden Jaggers here, folks. A real upstart defense, but you've got to get your head in the screen there, pal. There you go. Look at them. Look at the hair doing this kid.

Look at that. Yeah, it shows the flow. Yes. Flow going. I'm tight on the sides. I'm getting that for Arizona, Red. I'm rocking the mullet at Mullet arena. He shit talks me.

Now, get out of here. He shit talked to me at a game the other day. I had to put him straight. Sit him down. Yeah. Oh, you want to, oh, your mouth from the coach. Oh, really? It's a jerk.

Yeah. Have a seat, double J. You're off the power play now, son. Jan 11th to 13th, Phoenix, 1299 per person, double occupancy. This is going to be great. We got your friends. Buy your damn tickets. Not many left.

Not many. We're into the final sets of pairs. Like, let's get this sold out fellas and then we can unveil something. Mums are invited. Moms invited. What was I saying in Stratthmore? You're always great with those single mom charities when you're in Guy. The live shows are a little different than the real show.

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We all go to Grandma and Grandpa's house, Well, I thought you were going to say you're excited about the two to one Tuesday night Minnesota game. Thrilled about that as well, but looking just further down the road. We're almost in the holidays, man. I think we've already had two Christmas parties. Like, it's things are weird. I'm excited for the boozy Christmas. We've got to get disorganized.

If I'm coming back, we might as well. Oh, my goodness. You're back for the boozy Christmas party. Well, I don't know. You guys don't let me in on any of the planning. Well, you don't have your idea, go. It's kind of like a chicken or the egg thing. You are back for the Christmas party.

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