Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Flames REFUSE To Admit They Need A Rebuild… WHY?? | BB Clips

Episode Date: November 22, 2025

Boomer, Pinder and Rhett dive back into the fallout from Don Maloney’s interview as the Flames sit dead last in the standings, questioning why upper management refuses to admit this team needs a serious overhaul. Fans are fed up, it feels like a slap in the face, and as Boomer puts it, the comments came off as “disrespectful to the fans.” With the Flames superstar-starved and the on-ice product going nowhere, Rhett says he’s not buying tickets to watch mediocre hockey — and many fans feel the exact same way.VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/hjUUy4VBiFU#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #calgaryflames CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The biggest takeaway I have from the Maloney thing is like, I just don't know why you let them stand in front of the camera. Like I think they're going to get all this right. And I understand they're not ready to proclaim anything yet. Then don't go on TV. I also think that guys like Dregs in Toronto have so much going on that they don't overly focus just on one team. So their depth of knowledge of all that is,

Calgary isn't the same. But I think that they're looking at it. Well, just be patient in an overall general sense. We've seen it. We live it. We eat it and drink it and every day. Run into people and there's a pin. We've watched enough of it.

This is the gist. When you take three years and think about this team after watching them and rationally assess, you have to move these guys out of here and restart. I don't get the comment of the, well, you got a new rink coming and it's a seven or eight you rebuild. Well, it doesn't have to be. The only way that's screwed

that you make that happen is by making the wrong picks. So there's no guarantees that even if they do everything right, and we could walk through it, exactly how we would lay it out. I'm absolutely trading cadre, and I'm going to chew money on that contract

so that I get more in return. I would have dumped Anderson for the deal that was supposedly so good from L.A., and I told you how I'd have done it. I just said, what do you want for a contract? Okay, I'm going to. give it to you now I'm going to move your ass. Blah, blah, but I would run it that way.

Coleman, you're gone. I don't care. Like, I would not have resigned, blah, blah, blah. You can lay it out. The only fly in the ointment is if you don't get good picks. Right. If you don't turn the assets you get in return into game-changing players. If you don't do that, then you're into eight years of crap.

I agree. Like, Cole Raston, by all accounts, great. player. They get them at what, 18 last year. And you're like, wow, like that might be a center that could arrive in like two to four years. We're not talking two to four years and you're picking in the top three. You're talking next year or maybe you have to wait one year. Like if you want to speed things up, the path is very clear. Get to the top of the draft. We did the show yesterday. And I don't know, I don't know why I had such a being your bonnet. Because it feels like you're being bullshit. You know what it was is because, you know,

every other year they're kind of middle of the pack and then you get to around Christmas because we talk about how you got to sell off but and then you reach that point where as well they're not going to be bad enough to finish in that bottom five oh it to the guys in the room blah blah blah and it's almost because now they're dead last and it will they play better hockey we've talked with that yeah this is not going to be the worst flames team of all time they're going to they're going to get some wins here and there but now you're finally down there and you haven't traded away your first round pick like a year like imagine you like imagine you're like if you didn't own your first rounder this coming draft. That was last year. Jesus. Christ. You'd be, like, no, you've got your pick. Things are in good order. You have a goaltender. You've got some young players.

And to, I mean, to their, to see it from their side. Yes, what's, what's Don Maloney going to say? But it's a different time. And it's two things. Fans, they know what the cap is. They know what the, who's making what? They know what's out there. Also, they're seeing all these young.

stars light up the NHL. They also know who's available in the coming draft because of the proximity of Gavin McKenna. They watched him in Medicine Hat. There's that around this fan base as well. And they're tired of Mucky Middle. Oh, we want to be a good team. They have missed the playoffs.

This will be the fourth straight year and five out of the last six. So it's not like you're taking a team that is in the mix for a second or a home ice and deciding, oh, you know what, we're going to tank. it's not what's happening. It's not Winnipeg. It's as though they are, it, it,

like they're, and it feels like they're, they're trying to be the smartest ones in the room. And it, it just felt disrespectful to the fans, which is why it rubbed me the wrong way. Because I heard, that's what it was.

As you hear from fans, they're like, okay, wait, what? Well, well, we thought we were all kind of seeing this the same way that, fine,

okay, so they're bad, so they're going to try and, but what? Well, well, it just felt like, because I, I do,

I did it was not taking a run at Don Maloney or anything like that. I mean, he's got a, he's got a job to do. And I didn't want to be disrespectful. But just I like, I think a lot of fans are tired of watching what's on the ice

on a nightly basis. They give their, they bust their ass night in, night out. But they are superstar starved here. Zero. And you have a chance here. a legitimate and a real opportunity

to get one and to hear that we're not really interested in that. We want to feed you more of this. It's like we're sick of this. How about something better? It felt like they were reading the script from last year. Like, I know, we're not out of it. And like, no, no, you're in DFL right now.

And you've got other teams that have come out and said it. And I don't, I mean, is the backlash so fearful? Like, are we so petty as Flames fans that, like, I don't think a president of Okiops has come out and said we're selling. In St. Louis and other Barry Trots? Through insiders, they'll do it.

But none of those guys are spoken publicly and said the sale is on. And it's subtle, but it is a little bit. But through insiders, we're hearing what we heard from Maloney. Yeah, which is it already doing it. And I don't know what the, what's the love in with cadre right now.

Do you really want to be caught hold in the bag when he's not good? He's good now. Is this? again, it's nothing against Nassam Kodji, and I think he is playing well. Hence the idea that, yeah, we best maximize this asset. I thought GMs were supposed to be, what, psychopaths?

Sociopaths. Yeah, like, now we're good guys. Yeah, maybe we're being too effing nice, right? And I think that's part of it. I think the fans feel like, again, judge people by their actions. Conroy's not gone out and added a bunch of players. He's not gone out and given up draft picks and that. He made that Flyers deal last year.

The price is a good stab. You get beat sure they've done some waiver wire stuff. That doesn't cost anything. You're not holding players back. So my hope is that, yeah, Craig is able to do what he wants to do. But there's also, I think, of fear that when he runs things up the flagpole, that he's being there's some resistance there with what he wants to do we have an example being and it's hypothetical we've got a really good trade offer here for nassam codry and the answer is

codry's part of our core like we love our core we love nossum uh don't think so you just hope that everybody there's always going to be differing of opinions when you get into a room and that's what makes things great but my hope is and i think everyone's hope is let Monroy, let those guys do what they think is best. You hired them to do the job. They've got years of experience. They played in the league. They traveled the globe to work this game.

Now let them do it. If the concern is financial from the ownership's part of view, and I don't know that it is, but if that's, I mean, most owners should have that concern. But if that is the concern, then let's make the message real clear. I'm not buying tickets to watch mediocre. I want to buy tickets for a team that's trying to win. I'm with the 100%. I think that's where most fans are right now.

I think it's if, if, and this are, again, we don't know. It's hyper the, if they're concerned is that we can't sell tickets because we're, you're in 30 seconds and you've tried to be middle of the road forever, I don't want to buy tickets to that. I want to buy tickets to a team that's going for. And you can. And you could argue that what they've been doing, maybe in that you could spin it and try and sell it. That's us trying to win.

We're staying competitive. That's not what you're trying to do. You're staying mediocre. You're staying mid by not, by selling off and going for it, getting young and getting that. That is being aggressive in trying to win and be a perennial playoff team. Not what this has been. Because again, in the last 20 years, right, 04 to the final, 05, lockout, 06. or, again,

three series wins in 20 years. Sabers have more and have missed the playoffs for 14 seasons. It's a stupid comment, but it's true. So whatever your plan has been, it's not working. It's not working. And you think about this in the business sense. You've got sweet holders, and you want to run someone up there to meet them.

from your team. Do you want to impress them? As great a guy as Michael Backlund is, or Nazam Codry, or whoever the hell else, QB, Weger. Why don't you walk up there with Celebrini? Or Jonathan Taves in his,

or Sidney, or Crosby, or McDavid, or McKinnon, or Cail McCarr. Now, these are all Hall of Fame, guys, but that's the point. when you walked up with Kachuk well that's pretty cool Johnny Goodrow

this is pretty cool get that get that in your dressing room yeah and I do believe you said it yesterday you have the goaltender you already have some pieces you've missed the playoff so you've picked

you've made some some relatively high picks for what the team has been you're not you're not on your way to the bottom by bottoming out this year like you you've kind of bottomed you're you've started to put some pieces

this is already arriving here you're not starting to scratch here like you said right in three years you could be in a new building and have pivotal players at important positions that are in their early to mid-20s right that that's what you want

and you can do it but like you say so Bill Belichick was the best at it. Yeah, he's a great player. He's one of our, he's out. Cut. Because we can be better at the week. This is how we build a dynasty.

This is how we build a perennial threat. So it just felt like, and I, again, I, I, I, I'm not a hot take guy. I, I, I sit here and we bullshit. Because I don't, I don't like, I just don't, anyway, just, just, I heard from a lot of people yesterday who were saying, yes, that's what. That's what I'm feeling. That's awesome that you guys kind of went off there because that's what we're thinking.

That's how we feel. We do feel a little bit like we're being talked down to. And there's that we're just a bunch sheep. Again, I don't want to use that. But it's like people are smart. The fans are smart. They know what's going on. They see what's happening in the league.

And to feel like they're being spoon fed something, it's like here's, know, here's how the league works and here's what they just, they're done with it. I don't get the financial argument. I know that it's real. Like, Dregor is correct. If you sell Cadre, Coleman, Anderson and let's say Hanley and Farabee at the deadline, there's going to be a softening in sales. But like, how in the world can't you look longer than one quarter at a time

and understand that this fan base wants to see a young and exciting team with hope and promise and young stars? That's the trade-off. Yes, we'll lose money in Q3 and Q4, but hello McFly, you've got a new building where you're going to ask double the price for the same beer in the same seat. It better not be the same team. And people will buy to go see young stars.

What happened when they drafted Connor Bredard in Chicago? They sold like 10,000 season tickets within 30 hours or something insane. That's financially good. Try to do that. And you're in a great spot. Like I say, you're in a great spot. And it's such, I feel like it is an important part.

in the team's trajectory for the next generation of player. You have to make a state at some point. You have a budget, right? You have a billionaire owner and thank God for that. You have cap space. You have buyout room. You're not up again. You hear all these teams are in cap jail or well, we've got to spend this.

You don't have any of those restrictions, potentially. If you're willing to eat some money on salaries, you have plenty of cap room. You've got the budget. You've been a cap team for years. you've got all of that in your favor. Just go and use it. Yeah, don't leave these tools on this bench. Yeah, and if only you had players to sell,

well, you do. You have players that would be attractive to other teams. It's an opportunity to speed the whole thing up. I feel like we are just kind of doubling down to what we said. But anyway, retro was going there. I like it. See, Frozen? He's nice there.

No, I'm just dialed in. I was going because I think it's important. and we all believe it. And I think we're right. And I'm not saying that the management doesn't know this, but it just, it does feel a little tone deaf the message that the fans continue to hear. That's like, good God.

You didn't have to put them on TV yesterday or two days ago. And I don't like the, if you're rooting for a rebuild, you're just not a fan of the team. That means you don't, you're rooting for losses. No team. Don't call fan does that.

That's not. Yeah, no fan was excited when they drafted Sidney Crosby or Connor McDavid or Nathan McKinnon.