Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Flames Roll Past The Canucks + Darren Dreger Joins The Show | FN Barn Burner - November 17th, 2023

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

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Hi, buddies. Welcome to Barnberger here on your Friday, and it's former Pender and Red Warner on a beauty. It's a feel-good Friday. It's a banger. T-Gi-I. It's fucking Hawaiian T-shirt. It's a shirt.

Fucking day. Jesus, Pinder. Listen, listen, listen, I'm going to give you a piece of advice. You've got to do what I did in junior with my suit. Just leave one at the shop there. I have enough. I can just leave an extra here. Jack, you won't take it if I.

If I leave a shirt here, that's fine. You know what else you do in Hawaii? You're often, often you go tarpless. Tarps are optional. Tarps off the day after eat 42 nugs is not the luck. You can do that. I don't think the nugs went right to your hips that quickly. I think they.

I had no interest in breakfast today. Like, do you want me to put some toast? No, no. Shouldn't eat breakfast anywhere. Wade myself last night. Oh, God. What? Well, my wife made me.

She got a sitting right at the bad. You know what? I was all kudos in a way to go, Pinder today. Now I'm this. Listen. Wage yourself. I had no interest in that. I think scales are nonsense.

Health is measured by how much weight you displace. Schools and way scales are nonsense. Laws and rules. Court of taxes, all that stuff. But what is that? just sour about this whole thing. And she laid the scale out right in the doorway to the washroom. And I'm going to go in to brush my teeth.

You got a way up certain amount to come to bed? I don't know. I will say this, though. There is a time we'll all have to measure again. I'm not there yet. Babe, I've got some bad news and I got some good news. The bad news is I have put on some weight. But the good news is it's gone right to my cock.

No, it's definitely hasn't done that from what I did. Thank you, Jack. Show for all ages. Thank you, Jack. What a night. Calgary Flames get a win. Pinder gets a huge hog and money raised for the ALS Society. Love it.

Everybody wins. What was more impressive? Pinder eating or the Flames victory? Well, here's the thing. The first two plates of wings came out. And we were calling the wings nuggets, I guess, is what we should call them. They're nuggets. And the thing about going to Greta, and that's what it was we had a-

I heard you grease the chef. What a banger of a night at Greta. As my buddy Moon would say, Greta was shaken like a wet dog last night. I mean, it was pillar to post in there. There was people. There was nowhere you could go in Greta, and it was just rammed with people.

And then the game ended, more people rammed. I know everybody. In the post game show, we were shoulder to shoulder. It was something else. But the first two plates of nuggets show up. And at Greta,

they're the street nuggets. And these things are massive. Like, they're big dudes, which is what the whole thing I was saying, for him to do four. two of these things is another level. Now, I don't know what, but they were more modest in size. And I said, the first 20, shit right here. What are you doing, Pinder? Are you greasing the chef?

Yes. So you got through the first 20, flew through the first 20. Yep. Lose through the first 20. No issues. And I'm like, if they're this size, like, we got no issues at all. And then the next 20 come out. And I'm like, what are these behemoths? These are like the ones we had when we did the watch party for the first game of the year against Winnipeg. Like those are the behemoths. And what's great about it is they were so big. There were actually only nine per plate because they were bigger. So actually, instead of there being 20, there were 18.

He's like, this is so bullshit. It's like, hey, math is math. You bust my chops about math all the time. Let's go. That's 18 right there. All right. So, yeah, he got through those two. and so when

at what number you said you cruise through 20 and then he got the next 18 and they were bigger at what number because I predicted around 30 and it was going to be a who where was I close it was the 30 Nug Wall and that is when we announced this about years ago

and Dean rolled up my fantasy team with a margin of victory of 42 we had some people texting and saying we'd have similar punishments in our league I had to do Xs number, there's really a wall at 30. And I'm like, well, everyone's different. I mean, I'm sure there's something to that. Nugs are different everywhere. There was a fucking wall at 30. I felt like I was scaling Everest every nugget from 30 to 42. And they got harder. Like,

the last three or four, it was playing tricks on my mind. I'd like, have a bite, chew for two minutes. And I'm like, okay, there's got to be three left. And I'd look down like, I was still another half. And then I'd work another two minutes through the next half. And I'm like, okay, we're down to two, right? I'm like, there's three here. I was three here. Like, I was just I felt like they were spawning on the plate and getting bigger as we got closer to 42. It was no good. So maybe these professional eaters are on to something. Maybe this is a sport, the intestinal fortitude that you have to have here to survive and get through this.

It can't be good for you. Like, I understand there's serious help. I don't think this would be like that Joey Chestnut ain't live until he's 90. That's my guess here. well in fairness that was no joey chestnut performance you put on last no but ret's saying it's a sport like it's a it's a feat of like how much punishment you can take and yeah they're skilled they got all kinds of tricks of the trade i was doing some googling yesterday but yeah you were hallucinating and shit it's like what how is

there's four four of these are left yeah there's four there's four yes it's like i just ate one how's there four where i could have gone it i went to the bathroom and there's now four left yeah that just keep eating son but you did it What'd you do? I had, I think I had 20. I had a couple plates. Now, do you sauce those bad boys or what were you doing, dry? I was sauce and I had the barbecue sauce.

They have a bunch of sauces, but for some reason they just, the server just kept hammering me with barbecue. Well, I can tell you why. Because you ordered the first two, you ordered 20 with barbecue sauce. and then you ordered another 20. And for whatever reason, instead of bringing 20 nuggets, she rang in 20 orders of nuggets. So like 100 names.

So 20 orders of 10 nuggets with barbecue sauce. So that's why every order was identical. I think that's right. And they just kept coming out of the kitchen. Oh, my God. Do you guys want more? Do you guys want more? Where are all these coming?

Well, there was 20 orders of nuggets. No, no. No, no, I wanted 20 more. 20 and a plate, isn't there? And they're like, oh, no, we ordered me. We had 20 orders. I'm like, you might want to go talk to the kitchen or just start handing them out. So then people just started having, hey, nuggets, anybody?

Nuggets, street nuggets, nuggets, nuggets, nuggets, nuggets. Because Greed is the greatest place in the world. They got the game on. They got beers flowing free nuggets flying around. This is the best. Yeah. Oh, we had a hell of a night. You did it.

Flames win. Everyone's a winner. Johnson, Uberdo feels good again. Yeah, your colon is the big loser. Not yet. At some point, it's going to be a disaster. Okay. I feel like it's a ticking time bomb.

I had two cups of coffee, nothing. Oh, oh. If I leave in a hurry. Jonathan Huberto. 11-game goal is drought snap last night. And we talked about it during afterburner. You could see he was more impactful. And again, the bar is a little low for sure.

But even before the goal, he looked better than we've seen. him in a long time. Making some, you know, making some plays, connecting on passes, guys getting scoring chances because of plays that he was making across the board. There were some guys who played some of their best that we've seen in a while last night. Such a good point. There's, and there was no first game back after a road trip hangover. If there was any sort of lethargicness, it was the Canucks looking not like a division slash conference leader at all. They were wiped

and that's Quinn Hughes's worst game of the year. I think he had something like a 12% expected goals, right? Like he's been a horse all year and they were hemmed in their own zone for long, large spells, many of them throughout the course of the game. It was probably a good thing for the flames to have to face

the Canucks and the Canucks being in first place because it's not a game where you can go okay, I'll are back home, but these guys aren't that good. Like they had to get up for. That was San Jose. I don't know that they, yeah, I agree with you, Red. feel like this group needs to look at each other and say, we've got to be at our best. Vancouver's not bleeping around this year. And everyone's happy for Huberto?

And did anyone not notice? The hundred-old might fall off the back. It was- It felt good. Big hug. The captain embraced him. That was not your typical goal celebration. The boys were happy for him. And that's an important thing because that tells you he hasn't lost his teammates. It doesn't mean he's fixed.

I still think that's the worst contract in the league by a mile. But if he can contribute, can use him. It felt like they've been trying to hide him at times rather than use him, if you know what I mean. Yeah, it was more of a, do we need to just put him in the stands for the rest of time? Right. Oh, a shot, too.

But I mean, truly, right? There were games where you didn't notice him. Oh, yeah. Games at a time where it was just nothing play where it could have been any one of us almost out there and accomplished the same. Zero shots on net. he was a noticeable hockey player last night. And on his behalf, it wasn't just him for some games that didn't get married.

He had more than his fair share, but there was a, there was a group of math. There was a whole bunch of them. The masses were not showing up to play some of the games early in the year. Well, to be fair, when he and Linholm were together, neither of them looked that good. And they both look great on separate lines. And maybe that's just the way it is.

I mean, he had some not traditional linemates in Florida. It wasn't the guys you thought he'd be playing with the pile of points. Like Declare and Bennett, okay. Maybe it is Backlin and Coleman that give him the stability to help him find his game. But it hasn't been with Lindholm for whatever reason. And Sutter talked about it last year. And I'm not exactly sure what he was hinting at. But the bottom line was those two weren't working together.

You wanted to try it again. They tried it again. It looked the same. It didn't work. And I thought Lindholm played one of his best games of the year last night as well. So if those guys both want to feel better and play better and happens to be on different lines, so be it. Any possibility that we've tried to, or the coaches have tried to organize their lines incorrectly? And I know they've tried everything this year.

My point I'm trying to get at is it's just a four line team. There's no one or four. We said it the other day. It looks like three or four third lines. And it kind of did. But I mean, if Dylan Dube scores, these are your fourth line. Wow, that's great. And no Rizitsich.

There's no fourth line. Lindholm goes off. That's the whole point. though is that do we really have a first line no do we really have a fourth line if they're spread out this way no it's kind of like you got everybody go a bunch of two b lines right like yeah just find some chemistry within the lineup and it's it's about pairs you've got that you've got coleman and backlin together it seems like zary and and cadre are going to be okay manchipani and lind home if you okay so if that's the building blocks then you can move sharon govich or

some of the other pieces around if need be. Now, it's one game, although it's, I mean, it's, it's not really one game. They've been building. They've been building. Since they snapped the losing street, losing six,

they've, if they had played like this, and it's not wins or, if they played like this, I think the whole rebuild tank, the whole discussion would have been different. It's just they came out of the gates. They beat Winnipeg only because their goalie was very good.

And then, And then they stunk for two weeks. So if they played like this, we would have two more signings. That's true. No, I don't disagree that. I think you're right. Hanofan signed that $60 million extension or that gross number was. And beyond that, maybe it's a Zedora, maybe it's a Lindholm.

Yeah, I don't disagree there. If this team is second in the Pacific and working and looking structurally as good as they did last night, why wouldn't you be? Well, does it look like they're enjoying being on the ice again, too? It does. Man, Zeri, I'm telling you, as weird as it is, like, kids, don't know that guy, got the paddles to Nassum Cadry, because you know a kid's excited when he comes up. I get that.

But for what Zeri is rubbed off on cadre and give Cadry credit, whatever it is, he's playing well. But, like, you can't help but think the moment Zary landed on his line, he's looked like a different cadre, like the guy you would sign to a $7 million a year contract. You saw, because Red pointed out one night on the, on the post game show, just seeing Cadry celebrating a goal. Like you would expect somebody who's having a good, who's enjoying themselves to celebrate a goal.

And there was a lot of times where Pucks went in and it was just kind of, yeah, it's, you know, kind of shrugging it off or no big, no big deal kind of a thing. And you saw the same from Lindholm. Now Lindholm seems like he's engaged again. I'll tell you for people that watch and the expert here. Is that you? If the group rushes to the guy that scored after he scores, and it's an actual celebration,

and it's a, everybody's happy and making a big deal of it, you know the team's together. Last year, early in this year, guys didn't score, and they'd get together, but there was no panic or rush to get there. That was kind of a way to go.

Good, good. Okay. Right? A non-emotional gathering of players after a goal. Look for that. Look for that. It may, you can read into those things. Well, you certainly saw it with the, the Hubert O'Gull last night. That was a, it was almost tangible how happy they were for them.

Let's bring in one of our, one of our insiders on the insider hotline. It's a presentation of Tell Us, you can enter to win one of six monthly prizes, including tickets to Calgary hockey games, awesome tech like AirPods, Apple Watches, and more. No purchase necessary. All you have to do is fill out a quick survey to enter for your chance to win. go to tellus.com slash flames contest. It's the insider hotline with TSN Insider, Darren Dregger.

Dregs, good morning, pal. How are we doing? Yeah, you know, it's kind of a gloomy day here in the GTA. I'm not complaining about it. It's just the way it is. It's about 12, 13 degrees. So, you know, temperature is nice. But I've got full TV lights on here in the home studio

because they can't even have the blinds open. That's how dark it is. It's kind of one of those days. It's got that mood to it. That's why it's nice. They saw this coming. They got to go to a Dodge. Yeah, that's right.

So do you still put the backyard rink in? Your kids are older now. Do you still put that sucker in? No, no, I don't. Mercifully, my daughter is almost 25 and my son is 22. So they've thankfully moved on. And so have I, literally. I moved in a pandemic.

So the property we had, which I literally had redesigned the backyard. so that I had a nice flush level piece of ground. Don't live there anymore. So I move now. Now I just give advice. Any concern that they move back in because that is a, I think that's a bad sign. If they get back in, they tend not to leave.

Well, it's a good question. And yes, there is a reasonable chance. One of them is moving back in in the foreseeable future. But one of the reasons we made the move, we made it during the pandemic, was because my daughter was studying for ELSA. She wanted to go to law school. And the house that we're in now was perfect.

It has a basement apartment. So my son lived in the apartment, felt like he was on top of the world. My daughter had half the upstairs, which was two bedrooms and a bathroom in between. One was her office. The other one was a bedroom. She studied nonstop. And now she's in her third year of law school. So I guess it all kind of worked out.

If she moves back in, then I got a problem. My son, okay, that's a little different. I need help those boys. That's right. The boys need them. Dumb animals. Now, is it true? Now, I had heard or rumored.

Is it true, you bought one of the old refrigeration units from the NHL? Dave Gagne. It was from the, it was custom ice. And Dave Gagne, maybe he still was a partner in that, right? The agent, Sam's father. He's an agent now, isn't he? Yeah. Yeah, he's an agent now.

But he was one of the primary partner. partners of custom ice. And it wasn't old, Dean. I got this thing brands. I'll tell it as quickly as I can. It's a ridiculous story. The unit itself was off the charts. I mean, the weather isn't great. It's not conducive to making natural ice in southern Ontario. I'd get that baby humming in about now, November, and I'd easily be up and going by the first of December. And I could keep ice. It wasn't a big pad. It was 40 by 60. I can keep ice into early April. I mean, it was absolutely something else.

So anyway, we go to sell this house. And that's a different house from the one that I just talked to you about. I go to sell this house. Some big hot shot lawyer from Oakville buys it doesn't want the backyard rink. What? He doesn't want it. And he's got two kids that at the time were the same age as mine. They were young.

I mean, and I'm like, you know that it kind of comes with a property, right? He's like, yeah, I don't want it. just get rid of it. So I literally sold it privately and some dude drove up with a moving truck and a forklift and had to lift the chiller unit up and carry it into this tractor trailer to move it to his, to his yard. So that was the end of my artificial life days. I've got some of like psycho hockey dad vibes here, Dregs. Do we have to worry? We have to talk about what happened when your kid was playing hockey or no? Yeah, there are one or two that I'm not proud of. I'm not going to lie. I'll own it. I'll

on it. There were a couple of, driving to the rink was always positive. And the two times that I can think of were leaving the rink where it maybe wasn't quite as positive. The mood can change quickly, yes. Yeah, it can change. Well, you talk about mood changing. Jonathan Huberto scores last night. The flames get another win. Whatever it is now, four, one and one since this losing streak. Yeah. We were just talking about you probably saw you popped in there. I don't know. I think the whole. tone and tenor of the conversation of this season for Calgary would be a whole lot different if they didn't lose six in a row right out of the gate. And I think a lot of it has to do with the

impending UFAs that you're facing an indefinite future here. But if they were winning a little bit more early on, is Noah Hanofin a Calgary flame long term right now? A lot of things may be different right now. I don't know. I think he probably is. And it's hard to dive into the brain of Noah Hannafin, but there was a deal ready, as you guys know, right? Eight-year term around 60 Schmell, $60 million. You said that? And it was ready to be signed by Hannafin, and he just had a change of heart, you know, and that's a gutsy thing.

And I have admiration for him because I try and put myself in a space like that. And I'm not sure that I would have enough trust in my future to do it. No, he's a young man. He's got nothing but upside as a really good young NHL defense. but to push away from a deal like that because, you know, you're not sure the long-term viability to Calgary Flames in terms of your ability to win. So you push away and you park it for a while. So that means that Noah Hannafin is still very much a trade asset in play.

It's hard to pedal back from where Zadora put the Calgary Flames in the crosshairs. And then you've got Chris Tanov and you've got Lindholm and you've got some other assets. So as long as those guys don't enter or re-enter negotiations, And that's a two-way street here, too, right? Maybe Craig Conray is going to embrace the opportunity to bring in fresh meat and change the look at this team longer term. And he does that by moving out some of the pending UFAs. But now there shouldn't be a sense of urgency to do it unless somebody is willing to step up and overpay.

And so far, Nolan's been willing to do that just yet. It makes Craig's job easier, doesn't it? The pressure, you know what I mean? He doesn't have to take a crappy deal. The team looks like it's going in a different. direction. Other GM's got to see this. If they are making an offer, go, well, I'm not going to be able to flee some now. It's got to make it easier for them. I would think, I mean, if we're drilling down on Zadora off here for a moment, you know, the three primary teams with the most

interest are the three that have been discussed, and that's Toronto, Vancouver, and the New Jersey doubles. And I checked midweek, that really hasn't changed. Okay, well, if that hasn't changed in the better part of a week, then that is message sending in of itself to create. Conradt, you know, he's not in the business of doing his old boss of favor in Toronto. And why would he want the Vancouver Canucks to get better? I mean, that doesn't make a lot of sense unless there's a deal that is making you better on the short term and in the long term. But, you know, traditionally, as we know, these deals really don't happen very often until

you get around a month outside the March 8th trade deadline, maybe even three weeks. and then that's where you start to see the teams that go, okay, I've been looking to bolster my blue line all season long. I didn't want to overpay. Now I don't have a choice. I've got to get in. Otherwise, I don't like my chances of going as deep as I need to go into the playoffs. So I do think that it makes Conroy's job a little bit easier now.

So you mentioned New Jersey. That is the one team Connie has done a deal with. He's had the Tafoli deal that brought in Sharon Govich and the third rounder that they used on Sunniyev, who's at UMass and off to a decent start there. What would a return look like for Nikita Zedorov, the pending UFA, and a guy that we've talked about it, is he perfect? Absolutely not. Does he have tools?

Oh, God, yeah, does he ever? He can fly, he can shoot it. Like, what does that return look like? Yeah, it's a good question because when I look at the New Jersey Devils defense, I actually think it's pretty good. What you're talking about here is an opportunity to tinker, and that's a pretty big tinker in adding Zedorov to the mix. they don't need help up front.

Again, they're just kind of bolstering that blue line if given the opportunity. So I suspect one of their defense would have to come back. It's not going to be a big name defenseman. Maybe it's a prospect in their pool. Maybe it's a draft pick to go along with that. So it'll be interesting to see how that whole picture kind of gets painted. And does it stop with Zadora?

You know, maybe it's Zadora of and something else from the Calgary flame. and it develops into a bigger deal because I know that those conversations were taking place where a team like Toronto actually did have interest in both Zedorov and Christtown. How you make the money work on a deal like that? Yeah, geez. I don't know. I mean, I look at John Klingberg and if I were guessing, and that's the only way you can do this because there's no insider intelligence

when you're trying to predict long-term injury targets, John Klingberg is an LTI target. Who's getting who? He's got a bad hip. He's kind of all over the place. So if they could tuck four million of his money away, oh, hold on. Tiny's going to bark here.

Tiny the Great Dane. Oh, such a good dog. Eight feet away. Don't bark. Tiny. Okay, we're good. Sorry about that. Tiny's a good name for Great Dane, by the way.

Yeah. She's just poised and it's going to be deafening when she does it. You know, if you're talking about a deal of that magnitude, now you're getting into some of the heavier lifting where you're looking at not just prospects, but you're looking at top prospects. So if you're getting two defensemen from the Calgary Flames,

I'm speaking of overpaid from the New Jersey Devils, I don't think they're in that market. But Fitsy is a creative general manager. And anytime you've got history like those two guys do have history, you can see work and get done pretty quickly. I referenced this earlier in the week. You and Ray Ferraro, Ray and Drake's podcast. You were talking about Vancouver, Carson Sousy, and just, I don't know if Vancouver

thought they were going to be where they are, but it's maybe if it's a bit of house money, then hey, so be it. Why do we wait to the deadline? Let's get better now. If there's an injury, that sort of thing. And some people will say, like you had said, do you want to make Vancouver better? Well, you've got one of those games this season already out of the way after last night. And do you really care how you fare against the Canucks if the.

deal makes sense. I just wonder between the two teams, Patrick Alvin has a little something going. And if Conroy can make a deal, do you really care if it's Vancouver? You shouldn't. I mean, make the best deal that you can make and point well made there. But you know what Calgary or Vancouver is trying to move. And that's the depth that they feel that they have on the wing. So you're looking at Connor Garland or you're looking at Anthony Bavillier. And I don't think that either one of those players are a need for the Calgary flame. So again, you know, I think, you know, I think, think that Calgary would be more comfortable in dealing with Vancouver and taking off one of their good young players, one of their better prospects, and then maybe a draft pick on top of that.

But, you know, Vancouver is not in a position of urgency just yet either. Vancouver is likely going to come back to the pack. They're a better team than most of us gave them credit for going in. But that's because some of their players are playing more consistently than they did maybe at any point in their careers with the Kinexon. I think a defenseman Tyler Myers, right? I mean, this guy has been maligned and chased out of Vancouver on countless occasions. And yet there he is this year holding his own and accepting his role and playing that role pretty well.

So I think that this is Patrick Galvin and Jimmy Rutherford for just look at, look at the one thing I know is Rick Talkett liked size and compete. So he gets that in Zadora. But if if the coach were picking that, defenseman of choice, he'd be looking at Chris Tanna. He'd be looking at the right shot. He wouldn't be looking at Adadora. There's been a lot of turnover in the coaching chair there. Like it's, it was Travis Green had Elias Patterson plan fourth line minutes. That was sour. They replaced him near the end of the year. Budrogos on a tear. And then Bruce is screwed. Doesn't look necessarily organized enough. They replace him awkwardly with Tocet, who everyone seemed to know had the job before

it even happened. Is he your clubhouse leader for Jack Adams? Like, is he, Is Rick Tocket the absolute perfect fit for this group that maybe did need a little more defensive structure? Yeah, I mean, he asked me in that conversation right up near and near the top. I mean, come on. You know, I look at the Boston Bruins and everything that they continue to roll along with. And you cannot take away the coaching influence of Monty there because that team is so structured, given the loss that they have in Boston, to continue to reel off and lead the league the way they do. It's remarkable, but it's also elite level goal tending there.

The one thing about Rick Tocke, guys, and he reminds me a lot of Rod Brunnamor, and you guys can tell me if I'm wrong on this, if you have presence and you've been there and you've done it, I think that's currency. How does a player look a coach like that in the eye and just shrug them off? Yeah, yeah, I understand. I get it, but yeah, I'm not going to do it. I'm going to do it my way. well, you're just not going to get away with that.

And, you know, it is about accountability. And we saw a recent example of that where, you know, they made a big deal of it as they always do in Vancouver media about J.T. Miller getting sat for about four and a half minutes. I mean, they called it a benching. Like, come on, he missed a shift or two. Big deal. He was white hot.

They didn't want him to take another penalty. And he comes back and scores a big goal. Well, that's just a quick snap. Right. Hey, we need you to win this hockey game, but we need to get your head on straight. So he does. And no harm, no foul, and away they go. So it's, and they've got others there.

Adam Foote has been a great ad. That coaching staff in general, I think, has done excellent work. But it's largely through their experience. I guess what I'm most surprised with is it didn't take them long at all to get complete buy-in from that group. They didn't change the roster overall. So it has to be more about coaching and the commitment from. these players to what they're being coach.

Which teams are going to hang around? I mean, you got, looking at the standings here, you got Anaheim, Arizona, kind of up there. Vancouver's been better than probably most people thought, but maybe they are better than what we gave them credit for. Calgary wants to get back into it. Edmonton's still out of it. I mean, somebody's got to go if those things are to happen. Is there anyone that you really thinks fluking their way into stuff?

Or are all these teams going to be in there until the end? Well, if they are, then that's going to come at the expense of some really good teams. You know, we talked about the New Jersey Devils a minute ago. I still think the New Jersey Devils at worst are a top six, seven team, maybe a top five team in the National Hockey League. And I think that they're going to prove that moving forward. And I do think that you are going to see teams settle back. You know, as much respect as I have for Jim Montgomery and the Boston Bruins, you know, they're playing real young players there in Potra and Beecher.

and Fredericks and look at that blue line, right? Aside from the talent that they have there and the goal tending that they have, I think that Boston in some way has to come back down to the pack. You know, the Philadelphia Flyers are an interesting case study right now. You know, Philadelphia isn't going to tell anyone out there that they're not trying to be competitive, but it's not in the best interest of the Philadelphia Flyers to have a winning season. When I look to Philadelphia Flyers and I look for trade partners for Calgary, or any team that's in the market,

I look at the Philadelphia Flyers as being a decent partner because there are good assets there that Danny Breyer will move out, but it's got to be for the right price. And the right price is part of their future. So, yeah, there are a few teams, I think, are absolutely going to come back here. Curious, because it was about two weeks ago. We saw Johnny Goddra get benched in a game in Columbus by Pascal Vincent.

And then last night, it happened again, as both Patrick Linae and Godreau found the bench. You see there on a on a tweet. 615, the last 615, Godro did not play Lainey almost half of the third period. Just because it's Godreau and it's Calgary, I don't see any way that Godro ever gets back here. But it hasn't been, it's just interesting, right?

Sometimes how it goes. You can't even argue that the Hubert O'Fitt hasn't been great here. It does not seem like the Godro fit has been great there. Linae's been miscast there right from the start. I feel like between Winnipeg and Columbus, he's been a malcontent for about a decade. I guess just what do you see going on in Columbus? What possibly can you do there?

Well, I mean, it's pretty obvious that Pascal Vincent has the support of Yarmal kick a line and the general manager and maybe senior management on top of that. Otherwise, it makes no sense. You know, they're losing one goal hockey games with these sort of antics. I can appreciate Johnny Goodro isn't playing the way that they demand or they expect that full two-way commitment, all of that. I understand it. But Johnny Goodrow, as you guys well know, can turn the game on its head in a real quick period of time. You know, one shift, he can generate a couple of goals. He's that level of talent. So there's clear level message sending here.

And obviously, the head coach would have had face-to-face meetings with Guadro and Patrick Lainey before going to this extreme. But how many one-goal games do you lose when you park your top-end talent on the bench before ownership knocks on the door. Hey, Yarmo. You know, before the start of the season, you're telling our fan base that you feel like we have a good enough roster to compete for a playoffs, but we're a playoff-worthy team.

And now you're sitting our $68 million player for better than six minutes. I don't understand it. But I guess we shouldn't be surprised when you look at management. And I'm a supporter of normal cake lining because he's a good dude. Number one, he's a good guy. But if you look at the history of his hiring, he hires John Tortorello. Okay, they had success with Torrance.

Let's give Torts a little bit of credit. But he ultimately has a shelf life, had to be replaced. Then they landed with Mike Babcock, which was an unmitigated disaster. Didn't even get to the bench this year. Well, they hire coaches who are going to hold these guys accountable. But at some point, guess what? That accountability shifts over to the general manager. And those questions are now being asked by ownership going,

we invested 68 Schmill in Johnny Hockey. And you got them parked on the bench. And another superstar and Patrick Kleining parked on the bench. We can't continue to do this. So figure out a different way to get your message across. It feels like he's a hot seat before all this stuff started happening. To be fair, that's a long time. He's been working on that roster that just hasn't yet crescendoed.

Yeah, I mean, you know what? I guess you admire loyalty, right? And the reason you do is because how rare it is in pro sport, it doesn't matter what sport. You know, everyone has a boss. And when the owner comes asking tough questions, you better have the answers or accountability hurts, especially in the pocketbook.

So I hear you and we kind of skirt it over it. I mean, there's always speculation when teams don't do well. And there was all kinds of speculation last year as to well. or not, they would make a full scale change in Columbus. And that includes a new general manager. And they didn't do that. And they allowed Yarmu to hire Babcock and away they went. And then when they had to fire Babcock or they mutually agreed to part ways,

many of us wondered, okay, well, maybe they sweep the whole place clean here in hockey operations and they still didn't do it. So, I mean, if this team fails to qualify for the playoffs, I guess we have to give them the benefit of the doubt based on the number of games. that they have to play in the regular season, but if they don't make it, then there's got to be changing. I mean, you covered the game on,

obviously, the macro level, and we're pretty kind of tight focused here in Calgary and what happens here. So it's probably on Austin. Maybe it's just on me. But you take that one step back, and it's like, oh, geez, there's the Vegas Golden Knights,

top team in the NHL again. 13, 3 and 1, they win again. It feels, at least here, it feels like a little quietly. Now they're going to face Vegas in a week or whatever it is, 10 days and maybe it'll get a little louder, but they have not had any Stanley Cup hangover for sure. No. No, and you know what, Dean, what impresses me most about the Vegas Golden Knights is now they have the experience and they know that it's not going to be Picasso every night.

And we saw that last night, right, in the 6-5 overtime game with the Montreal Canadiens. It's not going to be pretty every single night. You're going to lose games that you just, you know, whatever, but it's a long season. And they know that. They just came through that long playoff march to hoist the Stanley Cup. So they have the emotional strength to get through the tough times. And they really haven't faced any tough times. I'm just saying that there isn't an overreaction, or an overreaction when they have a game like

last night or where they lose a game that they probably shouldn't lose. As long as they stay healthy, and that's saying a lot for a Vegas Golden Knights organization that's gone through, its share of physical adversity here. If they stay healthy, how can you not consider them a repeat favorite team? How can you not? I mean, look at that roster. People are actually, we're critical going into the season. They mark two teams as potentially not doing enough. The New York Islanders

and the Vegas Golden Knights. Well, one hoisted the Stanley Cup, it has the luxury of a roster that didn't need any attention really, whatsoever. Why would you meddle with success? And the other one with the Islander speaks for itself. I mean, that's a slow moving train with the New York Islander. So there's got to be change coming there. They are 04 and 3 in their last seven. They're in Calgary tomorrow. Big picture change. What do you mean on the island? They just hired a new coach, lose Lou. Like, are you seeing trades? Well, I mean, that makes sense, you know, because I don't think a coaching change is the right option at this. point. But you guys, I'm sure, have watched this team play this year, and you'll get a real good

firsthand look. There's one player, and I mean, that's very respectful, because I have nothing but respect and appreciation for everyone good enough to play in the National Hockey League. There's one player on that team where you'll go, ooh, okay, he's buzzing. And that's Matt Barzell. You know, since he's been moved to the wing, he's dynamic. And he catches your attention. But what also catches your attention is the fact that nobody seemingly can keep up And you're looking going, geez, man, if he had some help, maybe this team would be on the fly. And you look at their goaltending, their goaltending is really, really good. So if Lou doesn't do something to address some of the player personnel issues that he has,

it's going to be missed opportunity with some of the kids that he has. You look at the group under 25 teams around the league. The islanders might have the worst in the entire NHL. They are long in the tooth. They've been trading picks. We talked about it yesterday. the first for Pezzo, first for Horvatt, amongst other deals. If youth and speed are going to help you, the aisles don't have much of that.

They don't have a whole lot of it. And look, they've got good character guys. I mean, Bo Horvatt might be near the top of the list, but, you know, getting there in a hurry was never a strength of Bo Horvatt. I mean, he's just a real strong physical guy who is high character and every team would like to have them, but that's not what the Islanders need more of. So who eats more in a week? You are tiny.

Jesus. She eats five cups a day, man. You get her on the fresh meat. That'll put you into bankruptcy. So you know what? I'm not exaggerating. It's about 250. So it's 250 a month in dog food.

And then because she's an older, great day, and she's nine, she gets this shot of whatever this. magic potion is. It's an injection once a month. That's $120. But it's a pain block. It takes away your arthritis pain. So it's, I mean, we're into her for $500 a month, guaranteed. What do you do? And if you can send me the note on that shot for the arthritis, I'll, I'll take one or two of those. That's money well spent. Yeah, it might be light for you. It might be light for me. Thanks, buddy. Have a great weekend. All right. All right, fellas, you take care. Thank you.

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No, no, I eat fiber. And I was going to say, and are you talking about your dumps or are you talking about internet? I can use some fiber. Oh, Dregs, God love. He's great. Yeah, drags is awesome. He's good.

Yeah. It's, you know, that refrigeration thing, a bit of a red flag. He's right, though, because all the jackass dads around here, because Buffalo and Toronto, same. Yeah, so climate. Geometrically speaking. Right. Yeah. It's very similar.

You don't get cold enough here to have a backyard rank, but they all have a backyard rank. It's like, you do a lot of work for seven days of a winter. Like, so the, the refrigeration unit, total overkill maybe, but it's a different scenario than in Calgary, right? It's great if you can do it. Right? Because I had heard, I heard that he had a red, sorry,

try renting ice in Toronto. Yeah. Oh, 800 an hour. No. Yeah. Because I had heard he had a backyard rink and it was, he had a refrigeration unit.

I had heard it was one of the first, it was one of the retired ones from the Heritage Classic and stuff. Jeez. That they upgraded. So obviously that's not the case. But, but yeah, having a backyard refrigerated rink.

Jason. My old teammate, Florida teammate, Dave, Gagney. Gags. So is he still doing? He's an agent now, you were saying? Yeah, he's, it's a Wasserman agent. It's, no, whatever. See, I can't believe you don't have,

you should be calling your old teammate and getting that backyard rink set up. He keeps moving. He's got Razors pool. He could just fly that. He's there in Buffalo, yeah? I just got an email. I'm not even joking while we were on the show. from that agency, that team wastes.

Really? Really? They're on to one of your kids, eh? Or is it this coaching career or is that about to just upload? Definitely. They're after me. Yeah. Yeah.

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We've got some time to mull this over. But also could probably use another day before I dive back into the, I'm going to say how much you're going to eat today. Yeah. Well, we could cash that in on the weekend, maybe. Maybe you need something like the frost. something nice and cool. Yeah.

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Enough methane power going on. Fellas, I saw something coming up at the Grey Eagle. Now, this is enough, I'm giving you enough lead time. But you don't know how I would say, you go to the Grey Eagle event center. Is it going to be a concert? Is it going to be a motivational speaker? Is it going to be a comedian? What's it going to be?

Who knows what it's going to be? Just announced at the Great Eagle event center. We know people, right? We've got some inns at the Grey Eagle, which again, I'm not saying it's going to work or it's not going to work. But maybe just maybe. This would be a dream come true if you're like me. Look what's coming up at the Grey Eagle in the New Year.

Just announced you can get your tickets. New Year. Let's go. Are you serious? wheel of for get the name tag going hey how you know the wheel of fortune the wheel of fortune is coming live to the gray eagle event center

may 12 don't miss your chance to spin and win well i could get buckle and watch that that'd be great let's go are we in i i would have a tough time say a no to that dean and we got we can pull some strings how you think get you up there spin the wheel oh you got bankrupt sorry dean it's not you enjoyed to spin oh wrong show

wrong show buddy what did he say you and drew it's not it's not true it's the wrong show Drew could do a show like that when Pat and Vanna are done Van is still rocking today Anna holy still doing it good for her Grey Eagle Resort and Casino.ca is the website.

So that, of course, is the event center. And I was looking, they have basically, it's like Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Thursday, Friday, Saturday. They are just churning events. They got a big Muay Thai event coming up there next weekend. They've got concerts. They got all kinds of stuff going through there. I encourage you.

And especially with the holidays coming, you got friends, family in from out of town. You don't want to sit at home with them. Jeez, drive you crates. Go look at the events. Right. Go what's happening at the Grey Eagle. Okay, good. We'll take them to see this concert or this comedian or this event.

Gray Eagle Resort and Casino.cadio is the website. So how does that work? Because when you're on the wheel of fortune, do they, do they, because you kind of, it's whatever it is, four people are there for the whole show. I wonder did they, okay, you four are gone. Let's get four new people in from the crowd, from the audience sort of thing. RST L&E, Dean. We're going to have to go to figure it out.

phrase. There are some great YouTube videos of people who F up. Yeah, there are. On the Wheel of Fortune. It's, um, it makes you wonder what the lights do to a person and the stage because it feels like you pulled someone straight from a lobotomy out in front to try to spell. Like it just, it's how, how are we, the hamster wheel, you can see it, like this is not good. Did I ever show you guys the one, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a clip from Conan O'Brien from years ago of the Wheel of Fortune. I can't remember if I showed you guys or not. And you know what? Because it's the internet, we could play it for you. I'll, we have till May. I'll have it, I'll have it for you. But very good stuff. Let's do the Pinder Report. You want to do a Pinder Report? It's a decent

sized Pender Report today. All that time spent not putting on a Hawaiian shirt. That's right. And sopping up your meat sweats. Oh, God, it's gross. Yes, sweaty, burpee. Did you just throw out your gear from last night? Just your... It's in a pile that could be incinerated or just separate wash. Don't even mix it with other dirty clothes. Horrendous.

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And all of a sudden, very winnable stretch of games. Not that winnable means you get wins and not that winnable means you don't have to try, but let's have a look at the next three contests for the flames. They welcome the Lolly Islanders in. We noted it with Dreger 04 and 3 in their last seven games. the aisles limp in.

Seattle has had the exact opposite season as the one they had last year where everything went right and they did score enough. And Nashville is a team that's right with the flames and that bottom of the Western conferences right with the flames before they won a bit. Since you said the flames are just a fart in the wind, this is like a four one and one stretch now.

Listen, we're happy. What do you always say to eat crow? Please put up a strong. Right? No problem. But don't pretend that you were playing well and just getting bad bounces before. No, it wasn't that. It absolutely wasn't.

Wrong a lot. We're wrong a lot. Happy to be wrong. Yeah, please. But you're going to have to prove us wrong. That's the only thing about it. Here's one for you. Jonathan Hewardow, worst contract in the NHL.

Please prove me wrong. Please, for the love of God, prove me wrong. Please. Johnny. Thank you. Johnny. come on home yeah come on but what happened

we put Johnny and Johnny together come on that could work we'll nussle you here in our in our bazoom back in Calgary and Johnny who Hughie and uh hockey I don't think they're playing on the same team I wouldn't be boring

sorry I can see you know Hubertel has his best game in a while and we're doing this to them that's not nice well we're true us we're hot prove us wrong I just don't it's the money thing I don't know how the money works. Just business. It's just business.

We're going to hire a guy that does the numbers. We don't have to worry about numbers. We're bringing a numbers guy. Jack, you know the numbers? Jack, you're a number guy? No, I'm terrible. Jackie Bear, come on, baby.

We're now hiring for a numbers guy. Okay, we need a numbers guy. Send your, uh, yeah, send your resume to Wolvey at nation. Jarr rod at nationnetwork.com. No, tough way. Uh, so that three game stretch. I looked at the records. They are one game off their pace of last year,

Red. They were 7, 7 and 2 last year at this juncture. They are 6, 8, and 2 now, if I'm correct. I don't feel the same. They didn't make it less. Oh, yeah, here's hope. No, and I'm not saying this is better or worse. It's just like you could not have felt differently about clubs last year at this time versus this year at this time.

No, I thought they were horseshit at this time. When they were four, one-on-one or whatever. Well, by the time they had lost three or like three in a row there or four, Oh, Jesus. Again, we're happy to be wrong, but we're also quick to flip the F out when things don't go well again. That's right.

And we're doing that right now because we showed you the three-game stretch that looks so good. Where are all these teams coming from? Minnesota, get going. Come on in Minnesota. Edmonton, you're embarrassing yourself. Edmonton, this is a disaster. Get going.

Predators, what are we doing? Preds are going to be there. I just feel it. Preds in Chicago are going to be there. Minnesota, you have no right to be anywhere near there. Edmonton, Ditto, Ottawa. You said the rebuild was over three years ago. What the hell's going on here?

Get out of here. Didn't they win yesterday? Yeah, they did. We'll show you in a moment. So that's a look at the really crucial standings. Now, here's the thing with the flames. We might be feeling really good right now. They played well.

We might be feeling really good in three games from now when they've got, as we showed you, the Islanders, the Cracken and the Predators. But then, as Dean and I learned last night, we're going to do some find-in-out over the next 13 games. Now, this is very small. I would like Jack to imbigin this, but I don't know that we can. Embiggin it. Please imbegging it, Jack.

Can we imbegin it? Please don't let the technical terminology. Oh, you have for sure. I've seen you imbigan. Weren't you on occasion? When you met the shoveler? Isn't that how? So stars, avalanche, golden nights, stars,

Canucks, wild, hurricanes, devils, avalanche again, golden nights again, and the wild again. And I think the wild are better than they look in the standings. But even with the wild not doing well, 11 of those 13 games are teams that are either cup contenders or teams in a position to certainly have a good run. at winning their division. That is an incredibly difficult month of hockey.

So we'll see you on December 19th. We'll have all the answers by then. We will know exactly what the flames are or aren't. Are they at home that game? That last one looks like it is at home. Let's do a big team party at the dome. Connie'll get us a suite and hang out with Iggy. Okay. I see they're texting your back these days?

Eat some nugs. Actually, no, I want the nachos with the cheese bowl. Yeah, I'm going to say. You've got cheese in the salsa, salsa, salsa, which one is it, by the way? Do you pour the salsa in the cheese? You pour the cheese and the salsa. Salsa into the cheese. Thank you.

Yeah. Can't even. Because then, because it's easier to scrape, the cheese would be kind of stuck to the inside of the bowl. The salsa, you can pour out and just give it a quick one of these. At the heater underneath, it keeps it bubbles. Yeah. What is it doing?

You're right. You're right. It's the chilies and the beef. Beef. Good times. We told you the Islanders have been struggling. Here's the closer look at their. struggling.

As yet, there's a loss in overtime. A loss, a loss, a loss, a loss. Jesus loss. Lost in overtime. A loss and overtime. We've been there. We know what that's like. Yeah, that's not ideal. That's three of a possible 14 points. And this is your one of that Horvette deal.

I'm not saying they're bad. I don't think they're bad. They've got a great goalie. But they're, this is a wounded animal coming. It feels like you're saying they're bad, though. A wounded animal. A wounded animal. you're the shit. It feels like this is the case you're building

is that they're bad. I'm saying this is this is a group that is certainly not okay with how they're pulling. Lost, loss, loss, loss, loss. Not saying they're bad, but they're terrible. Not saying they're bad. They're bad. I'm not saying they're bad

because I talk to Thomas Hickey, but they're terrible. Now, Thomas Hickey didn't exactly say they were good either, to be fair. He wasn't really. He wasn't singing the praises from the mountain top. Okay.

And finally, some flames prospect news. I guess some good news. Their first rounder from last summer in Nashville where Dean and I knew so much about the prospects that we covered the draft back and skating in the lower mainland. That a boy, Sam. Sounds like he'll be in the lineup before the end of the month. Isn't going to play this weekend, but maybe next Wednesday,

midweek against Spoke. Get in there, Sammy. I don't get a shit about his junior career. I want to see him at the world juniors. Oh, yes, I do too. Let's see you perform against the best. What was the song they would play in Spokane, right? The goal song. Is that what it was?

I don't know the Spokane. I didn't get forward on there. I got K-Oed by Schultz. Ouch. It's Schultz. Sheltz. Threw a wicked elbow on me in the corner. Absolutely dummied me.

Dirty. Dirty play. Conky? Probably, but you didn't talk about those things. It didn't exist back then. Yeah. Hard to look back and talk about something that didn't exist. But if you don't remember it, well, it might be that.

Let's move to some NHL news. This is, hmm, weird you would have a... You know what it was? Wasn't it like... Da-la-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-cha-chee. Chiefs! Because they were the Spokane Chiefs. That was their thing.

Chiefs! One more time. I missed that. Just one more try. Dada. Ditt dee dee dee dee dee dee dee dee cheeps. Redd, is that ringing a bell? No, I didn't get sure.

Yeah, he was concussed for sure. Oh, yeah. It's just, that's your concussion test. Just laying there counting the, counting the lights on the ceiling. Uh, right. We need to answer a couple questions. What day is it? Susan.

Okay. Uh, he's concussed. Purple. Can we get him ready for the third? Yeah, he's going out. Yeah, I played in Tri-Cities. sure you did. Sorry, go ahead.

The NHL apparently launched an NFT. Those are still things and still things that somehow have known. I don't know if they are still things. I think the shine has wore off. Oh, 100% it has. Yes. The fad has ended, but they still do

exist. The NHL is jumping on at what we'd call the inopportune time. That can't be the case because I've got about 300 grand tied up in them. And, oh, man, it's... Dean, I got bad news. You got about $300 tied up in the back. You got to be patient, Dean.

Right now. Coming back. It'll be back. And so if that maybe wasn't good timing, how about going to Sweden and having a real big celebration of the hockey and letting the Swedish people, a great hockey nation, get really into it,

and then not having any of them broadcast nationally in Canada. Four games, one of them coast to coast on Sunday afternoon. The hell are we doing here? You didn't want to watch some puck at noon yesterday? You know what? The CFL has such a massive influence here. Yeah, it does. Canada that the NHL just falls into the same trap.

They just... Park bag, Saskatchewan, Rhett. Park bag, Saskatchewan is the home of Gaynor the Gopher. Yeah. Not Pence. No. Not Pence. Just going to pivot really quickly, Rhett.

you talk about the enormity of the CFL, especially this time of here. I can take over the sports calendar. Give us your Great Cup preview, the teams, and who you like. Well, the weather's going to be a little dicey, but we're still going to get out there with our, or what do you do? Do you cut the hole in the garbage bag and the arms?

You're going to get out there to keep the rain off. I'm expecting a big game from the allotts. I think they'll, they're going to throw the ball and get the Winnipeg blue if I knew the French word for blue I'd use it but they don't bomb air and that's the French version of bomb

so the blue bombers they're going to try to run the ball so it's it's a pass versus run affair and I think because I'm a Western Canadian that that running of the ball will be successful well and of course and you talk about Winnipeg's run game

they're running back had an unbelievable year. Yeah, Adam Clark has been spectacular this year. Really, really, out of the University of Brandon. Beaumont. He hasn't, he

hasn't missed a beat. Let's just say that. And then for the, and you talk about the past heavy. Yeah, Cavillo, he's getting up there in age, but he still got an army, he's a gunslinger. You're not wrong. Calvio is getting in age. Old Hank Calvio

is still, he can still toss the pigs Yeah, smiling Anthony Calvillo. Yeah, and in defense of him and Mike Pringle, everyone is getting old, not just them. Everyone's a day older than yesterday, not just those. Yeah, for sure. Thank you for that, Red. I can't wait.

I look forward to seeing there at the game. Yeah, enjoy your cutout garbage bag. Here's your OT winner last night. Ottawa blew a massive lead. Were they up four nothing, only to give it right back? And then in overtime, Oh. Oh, is that pretty?

That is an RBI double into the gap. That is pretty stuff from the German. Stutz. Stutzla. They love baseball. They do. Yeah, the Germans are huge. And the Swedes.

Everyone there would have been just jacked. Yeah. They're excited about that. Another game at like right away here. It's at noon again. At Lake right away, yep. How do you know? I mean, it depends on you're listening to this podcast, really.

That's right, yeah. And so we'll get to the game details in a moment. First, Gary Bettman's talked a bit about expansion, flirting with the notion. I think we are going to see more than 32 teams in this league. A Euro league? Pardon me? A Euro league?

No. Oh. But they are going to keep taking games over there. We've seen them in Australia and Sweden already this year. What do you think you have to do to get to the front of the list? on expansion. I mean, you've got to be a big market. You've got to have a nice building. We need potential ownership. But these cities really are courting Gary Betman. And so this from the very, very serious Beaverton publication, apparently Quebec city officials have up their ante.

Offering Gary Bettman one night of unbridled passion with Bonhomme. I say no to that. Good job, Quebec. Can't wait to watch Nordiques play again. Jack, do you know who Bonhomme is? no what is benome bonhomme bonhomme is like the mascot of the winter festival they hold in quebec city so that zoo the lord snowman looking guy he is a very loving and affectionate mascot apparently so we'll see if he can get his claws into gary he would be anything for a team boys he would be grande spoon and gary would be petite spoon damn it we need to know what the word for spoon is okay uh let's move bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad bad

bad, no good Thursday night football game. Oh my God. Mark Andrews done for the year? Oh, that's not good for well, the Baltimore. Just call Rogers and get the good medicine. You'll be fine. And it's right. You'll be back.

Get some of that horse placenta on it right away. We'll get you back out there for next weekend. It's a longer week, right, because they played Thursday. They got a extra time. That's not good. And if that wasn't bad enough on the other side of the field. Here's a slinging Joe.

Oh, dear. Oh, that's not good. That is good. What the hell you're talking about? Not good. Andrews and Burrow can beat it. Go Bill. Jack is loving the stuff. Guess who's in the same division as the Steelers, these two clubs. He knows right there. He knows.

That's a surgery face right there. That's a go to the locker room and you're not throwing the football face. They say it's a sprained wrist. No. be whatever spring. This is a thing. This is a very big thing. And this

will, I think this will affect the draft big time. The NHL is looking into why Joe Burrow was not on the injury report. Because they saw him getting off the bus with a brace on that exact wrist. Without contact,

he left the game. Struck the front door. Yeah. That's right. That's two of those from rent. Had some sort of a splint brace thing on. Stinking cheaters. They want us gambling on these games. All of us betters that were on the bloody bangles

got taken to the woodshed. That's right. I was on the under. If I knew he had a bad wrist, I would have taken the under. I told you that Joe Burroughs a shady bastard. He is. I told you. I've been shit talking over for years. And now you know why.

I feel like it's going to be more of the team and the doctors in trouble here. Not Joe. Okay. We know. problem is. Not the doctor. His dad was an alouette, Rhett. It's a lot of tension.

Great Cup week. You know what? I don't like the alouettes either. Ilerita, show me aleretta. No. Jean-te-plumere. Jean-te-plummer.

Cheeps. It was Baltimore winning last night, and it was not Joe Burrow finishing the game. They were happy about it in Baltimore, especially this old dad. Yes. Oh, yeah, Dad. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Uh-huh. That's got to be jelly because jam don't shake like that, am I right? Hey. From three dads to another. Good work, sir. Well done, sir. Also, busted.

Yeah, as well, explaining to do when you get home. Yeah, no. So, yeah. I'm sorry. I just, they had their phone. Up in a moment. What do you want me to do? My favorite song.

My favorite bleeping song. The person had a photo. I thought they were making a call. They were taking a video. Oh, no. She poked it out there. I'm just trying to help. Getting it away.

I was to dance alone. I was just trying to shoe. Shoo. Get out of here. You. Ah. You know who loves all this is Jack. In his division with those stinking,

can't even outgain another team in Yardage, Steelers. Cincinnati loses Burrow. Mark Anders down for Baltimore. Deshawn Watson's out for Cleveland. This is who the Steelers are playing at quarterback for the next five weeks. Now honestly, who is Jake Browning? That's the guy that came in and played for Joe Burrow after his wrist broke. Because I saw that the Browns were going with Dorian Thompson Robinson. Not PJ Walker. Mack Jones. It sounds like they hate him already. It's just it's over in New England with Mac. Yeah, yeah.

Zappian might be the man there. And then Minchumania, and again, he's the backup because it was Richardson. He's done for the year. So, Jack, are you going back to Pittsburgh because clearly the Steelers are hosting a playoff game. They are hosting a playoff game. That's 12 and 3 boys. Jeez.

Win, win, win, win, win, win. All you do is win win, win, win, no matter what. All right. What, what? Stinking Steelers. I do like that we've added another team into the show and two factually, because Dean, you're now in the Bears, but the Steelers wrinkles a new one. I feel like we got a little, there's always

a little bit of meat in those AFC North games now. It's real football. F1 is in Vegas. We've seen the promo. Now we have cars on track in the sphere. Just confirming that as well. Look, here's what we're talking about, the deals. Remember we had deals, deals, deals, deals?

Five weeks ago, 1,600 American for a seat to watch the race. almost half that now under a grand U.S. See, Dean, it's on sale. Only a thousand dollars US. And going down. Let's go. By the day, getting cheaper.

I would love to go. I saw this morning, you can get a hotel room and I'm not sure what hotel it was. 18 bucks. Oh, hell yeah. That's what I'm talking. The front door. That's his third. It's his third SF.

We need a ticker. Yeah. That thing. Yeah. He's watching the cars go by. Look at that. How good is that? The sphere.

This sphere is unbelievable. It's losing money hand over a fist, but God does it look good. They lost 100 million plus in the first quarter. Doesn't it? Like, what are you talking about? So much money to run that thing. I don't know how that works than what the business model is. I think that Calgary has dropped the ball.

Mayor Gondek, is it? Currently. I believe that you should get off your hoop and build us a sphere. We need a sphere. And we'll put the rake right in the damn sphere. See, look at this. Let's put the rake in the sphere. You know what you are, Rhett?

An visionary. You're an idea guy. Innovators. Innovators, indeed. Staying with baseball, MVP's announced for the American and National League yesterday. We've got art and we have stats and we have pitchers. Art. Unicorns are real.

There is Shohei Otani. The second time in his career has been the unanimous MVP. Did that a few years ago in that season. Vlad would have won it. made this. Unbelievable. And look at you guys. He's got to sit with his dog doing interviews.

Oh. That ain't tiny. That's not tiny. He ain't tiny. Look at the scowly eyes on that dog. I was going to say, look at the dog. It's like, you know, he's he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's cpping my balls right now.

Help me. Somebody please help. Send help. Call 9.1. So that's your AL MVP. Boy, what would you pay to get a guy like that? We're going to find out in a few months. He's free.

When's he a free agent? Right now. So this is happening soon. Usually with baseball, the agents drag it on as long as they can to try to extract every last nickel. It's very weird. It's the opposite of the NHL. Everyone signs day one. Something about no cap.

And it's like they build hype into the new year. He's going to be a great Philly. No can't. Unbelievable Dodger. I don't want him playing on the West Coast. All I want to say is no Yankees, no Reds. He's up to watch the West Coast. pinstripes.

No. No. He loves his beard. He's not going to go there. Damn it. He doesn't have a beard enthusiast. That would take them off the list. A beer?

He likes the brewers. Loves brewers. There's your NL winner. Ronald Acuna Jr. What did he do? Was it a 70, 30, 70, 60, 40? Like the hell you're talking about. Home runs.

Incredible season from Ronnie. HRs and bags, right? I must have missed it. Yep. Too much CFL on my... Well, you know what? The problem is, the baseball season is rather short. They just fly right by if you're not paying attention.

He hits, lasers, and he runs like the wind. He's amazing. He's the amazing Acuna. Play like maze, run like Hayes. How you doing? How you doing? Now, Rhett, I know you're a little down on the city right now, but if you had to compare and contrast Atlanta...

Well, there's no sphere. Come on, go on deck. That's what, does that, who it is? What's the proper pronunciation? Oh. Go ahead, Ryan. Atlanta or Chicago? For me to go to?

Well, maybe if you were a pitcher and you got moved from, you know, two markets to. Oh, both big cities. Yeah. Weather is the shits in Chicago quite often. Atlanta. hot, hot summers. Muggy. Too hot in the summer, probably.

Housing significantly cheaper. Yes. Now, you're a pitcher in the majors, so you got a little more capital. Doesn't matter. Do you think these people with all this money just piss it out the window because they have it? Yes, most parathletes do, yep.

No, they are very frugal, brilliant people. Talk to MC Hammer, handle their finances. I do love Wrigley. Now, I have gone on record. I have gone on record in saying that it's not safe in Chicago. So I'm going to Hotlanta. Okay. Well, let's pretend this didn't happen then yesterday.

Mike Soroka, while we were doing the nuggets traded from Atlanta to the Chicago. Oh, no, this is a good vote for Mike Soroka. This is a good movie. I agree. I texted him.

He didn't, he's like, oh, yeah, flames look good tonight. You didn't seem rattled at all. Atlanta, very, very deep starting rotation.

He goes to the white socks. Didn't seem rattled at all. He just got fucking traded for the first time. He's like, oh, boy, the flames scored a bunch of goals night. They look great. That's what we want to talk. Don't worry about the flames, Mike. We worry about you, buddy.

Worry about you, buddy. Wish you were a cub and not a white sock, but I mean. Yeah. Oh, you're a white sock? Oh. Yeah, I know. It's a little stabby down there. Gross.

Well, the white socks fans, they do like the whitesaw. Hey, Mike, we're coming to town. It'd be great if we could see you. Oh, I'll get you tickets to the game. Yeah, can you get us tickets at Wrigley? We're going to the Cubs game. Do you guys play the Cubs at all? But after, if you want to get together for dinner or something, that'd be great.

Well, we're at home too, guys. Oh, are you? So, yeah. Yeah, I'll send you in our good restaurants or anything. Taking a Brinks truck to the game. Root, root, road for the Cubbies. You guys are in town? Wait a minute.

What? Damn it. It's okay. It's good for them. Yeah, honestly, best of luck to him. to be fair, there's not many rotations deeper than the sport than Atlanta, so he's got a great opportunity to make some waves in Chicago.

He's getting hurt in Atlanta. He needs to go somewhere where he doesn't get hurt. He's into training staff, so he needs. Men's national team, big game tonight. Oh, Roger. Canada, Jamaica, from Kingston. Let's go, fellas. You haven't won there in 25 years.

That's a long time. What the hell? Now there's Alfonso Davis. We're due. Fonzie, let's go, buddy. This is a two-legged. It'll be Jamaica tonight, and in four days in Toronto, if they can beat Jamaica,

they get into this massive, massive, massive tournament. It involves all the South American teams. It should be a great warm month. They play it. It's Bruce Meadows? What's the name of that field? Do you say it's a two-banger? It is a two-banger.

They got one in Jamaica tonight, Toronto, and four days. Gotcha. Let's go, fellas. A tie's a win in this one, because you're coming home, and you have one in Jamaica in a quarter century. Why does Macy come to town? Messi will probably February. We'll see.

We got a nice and cold. Probably February. That's when the draw is not done yet. It's done in December. The opening dates are in February. The cavalry will host a game in mid to late February. There's no corruption in soccer, though, right? That's the nice thing.

Shitloads. Oh. It's like NCAA IOC FIFA. That's your holy trinity of corruption. Oh, so I, okay, sorry. Yeah. But to be fair, this is a con. this isn't like dealing with all the massive money in Europe.

It's hard to be corrupt. There's not a lot of money involved. It's kind of the whole point of being corrupt. Are you insane? Yes, I am. Like if Dean was in the studio with you, I'd have him headbutch you. For. Well, how do you say is they, Macy or Messey?

Messy, yeah. You don't think there's a money involved in where he plays and enough that it influences him not coming to Calgary? I mean, it's a NACO tournament. So you just got to keep winning until you're the only one left. then he'll come to Calgary. There's lots of places in it out already. Yeah. The head butt, out cold.

Three items to get us into the weekend. You ever do the box at the gym rat? You jump up, get the legs working. I was jumping today. Did some jumps today. I was jumping and jukeing and jiving. So you use the box. I hope you don't use the box like this.

This box boxed someone. Oh, that's a wood box, too. I like the padded. Just don't do it. Oh. Okay. It's on the nose. Don't just no one.

No one type it in the chat. No one on the show say it. We're all better than that. No, I don't think it's all. The shoveler has dark hair. We do have some with the shoveler coming up because you and the shoveler were showing off by the lake. Again, a headbutt. Blonde.

Twice today. I just said that's not the shoveler. That is not the shoveler. Thanks for clarifying. But we do get red and the shuffing. shoveler for our last two items in the Pinda report of the entire week. Good. We start with RET showing off.

I don't know if this is on vacation or what. The video just leaked. Big show off trying to land on the back of his boat. Oh, Oh, shit. It's really wet on the back. And when you're moving that quick, you're not going to have much grip. My question, I saw this one.

Yeah. What's the success? What's the perfect outcome of this? You land and you look like a hero. Because watch his head. Yeah, he takes one. Clunk. Clunk.

It's hard. That's a two-banger. Yeah, that is. That was on vacation. You're showing off. You can see the sun setting there. It's the end of the night. You probably had a few cocktails,

a little more liquid curds than you needed. When you got home to Buffalo, a little cooler and the shoveler, she's trying to show off. And I don't think you guys knew how cold it was because you were on vacation. Let's have a look. What? That's the worst laugh.

That's quite a lot. That's how we knew. That's that grunk? Yeah. Old Lake Ontario froze up. Solid. It's where she's wearing that wig. Anyway, that's your Pender Report.

Have a great weekend. A tough week. She did the box jump and then try to jump. She just wanted to cool off. Jesus. From now until November 30th, Village Haunted is hosting and holding their veterans food drive. Village invites you to stop by the dealership with non-perishable food items.

They've got a Honda Ridge Line sitting in the showroom. You fill that thing up and they are going to drop by the Veterans Food Bank of Calgary at the end of the month and drop off all the food items. That's now until the end of the month. Giving back good people up at Village Honda, our partners, and your dealership for life. Goodness gracious. Oh, no. That's not your place.

That's the neighbor. That's the neighbor, Andrew. It's just getting like these shills every time the car goes by. It's freaked out. When did this start, by the way? This started when I was gone with him showing the delivery trucks. I was inconsistently in this room. And now that I've put it in my schedule, it's very consistent.

It's hard to get through a show without a delivery. What is her birthday? Today? Oh, this weekend, yeah. Chevalerina. Pender, don't bother sending anything. She doesn't want those pictures. I framed them already.

We have great news. Yeah, we do. Next week is American Thanksgiving. And, of course, Thursday, American Thanksgiving, and then Friday, Black Friday. Everyone loves a good Black Friday sale. Yeah. People, gather around.

Gather around. Look what the Barnburner fellas, the Barn burner boys have for all the barn animals. We've been telling you about this trip to Arizona in January, January 11th to 13th, coyotes flames, trip includes your flights, your hotel,

your game tickets, transportation to and from the airport for a limited time. 1299. Huh. 1299. We're blowing these. We're just selling it out.

Let's just wrap this thing up. We've been talking about it for a few weeks. Black Friday, from now until the end of next week, 1299 based on double occupancy. We're going to see the Flames and Coyotes at the Mollett Arena, like we say. It's January. You want to hang out here in Calgary or in Buffalo?

Good God. No. Or head down to Phoenix. What are we going to do on that Friday? Is there anything going on Friday? No. It's Scottsdale on a Friday. It's whatever you want, Dean.

It's whatever we want to be doing. So we are going on our inaugural, Barn Burner Vacation. We knocked a little bit off for you. 1299 now based on double occupancy. So get in there. Take your dad, take your kid, take your whoever. But book it in and be ready to head out. It has a presentation of Alberta Blue Cross.

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The guy said, you know what? This is so inspirational. I'm booking that trip right now. Bleep it. Let's go. I have got, and it's more from last night. I got an I dig it. I've got an I dig it for you.

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So don't not wait. Dean's going to buy a skidsteer guaranteed. Oh, I want what's looking there is. Look at it now. Oh, I want one so bad. Yes. I don't know what, like, you need to buy that, like the 10 acres, a thousand acres, whatever it is outside of town already.

like we need a place to go play on our skid steers i'd be clear what i'd be doing i'd be clear and brush yeah be clear and brush got those chainsaws going do that oh baby you can go through the forest get some chain knock some shit down pull down some quonsets or granaries or something oh what are you going to do there i don't know but i got to knock it down and now it's just laying there i got to clean it up got to get my skis steered i got to move the rocks over here to another place we're putting them i don't not yet. Yeah. I got to dig a hole here and then once the holes, Doug, I got to fill it up again. You know, how am I going to do that with me without a skid steer? Am I an idiot? No. I see it. Huh?

Nothing. I'm talking to myself. All right. What are you looking at there? He's got some heavy machinery on the menu. Bulldozer. Oh, boy. When you're a kid, you didn't want to drive a bulldozer. Yeah, you didn't. Yeah. If you didn't, I got to sit down with you and have a chat. Boom, the builder. that's i mean that's what you're right you know like boom's always been the big part of the build i saw him in that t-shirt i went like whoa whoa boom's been working out yeah he's been working out the greater my uncle barry drove a greater his whole life barry the greater the greater oh the amount of hours that man spent behind the wheel of a greater my goodness my dad was a greater

operator. Really? My dad was a greater operator and of course my mother had already passed away. But is Jack laughing? Did I hear Jack laughing? Yeah, absolutely did. No, he says, his nose is in the computer. Steelers news must have broke. He's not at all.

No choice. Anyway, you know, Manitoba winters bitterly cold. Yeah. My old man. he gets up early he's driving he's doing the grading got to get the roads cleared swing by the house pick up young dean drop him off at school how about me getting a ride to school in the grader come on the front door and it was a caterpillar a caterpillar grader yeah man wow riding in style those things they were just wheeling along oh yeah I was cool

still are Dean still are yeah yeah that's right be a little cooler though if you haul one of those skids steers in on that be a lot cooler if you did now what the hell is this thing that way bets

yeah let's do it go ahead all right football pitch Friday bets we have got our point spread picks betway bet the responsible way with betway we had the betway app out last night at greta we were looking okay so what geez four to one now for the flames is there any show four to two shit

betway bet the response responsible way with Benway. Here's what we got for you. Oh, shoot. Hang on. Do somebody else's picks. Oh, blah, blah, blah, blah,

no, no, you're not backdorn out of this, you're cheating. Go ahead, Pender. All right. So, here's the thing. I was on one of the most miserable tears of all time with these picks and did opposite George,

which means we had to stick to the exact same process of who I wanted to pick and then do the exact opposite. We're sticking with that again. stay with me here. Dallas. They are given 10.5 points to Carolina.

That's too many points you're at. Way too many. I like Carolina in the spot. A lot of sharp money coming in on the Panthers. I will take Dallas. Good for you. Good for you. Okay.

You know who's playing some really good football all of a sudden? The Denver bleeping Broncos. They're at home. This time of year. Excuse me. Only two and a half points. against Minnesota. Brand new quarterback there.

Back up quarterback. Denver just beat Kansas City. Denver just beat, what, the bills? In Buffalo. Are you kidding me? I love Denver minus two and a half. So I'm taking Minnesota plus two and a half. Nice.

And finally, it's a divisional game between the bears and the lions. Chicago gets Justin Fields back this week. I like the Bears plus seven and a half, which means I'm, taking Detroit minus seven and a half. Those are my picks. I am seven and two in my last nine

going full opposite. Love your discipline, Pinder. I love it. Because don't think you're smart. You're not. You're still the same idiot that had 11 incorrect ones in a row. Use that to your advantage. Confidence is different than arrogance and ignorance.

Don't believe in yourself. Do the right thing. What he said. I don't know how to feel about this now because you're picking the same picks as me, but you're picking them for the opposite reason. all you need to know is that whatever I've landed on has been correct.

How I got there doesn't matter. My process is my process. You do you, Jack. Fair enough. Pittsburgh on the road in Cleveland plus one going against a no-name quarterback. They shouldn't be dogs. It's a joke.

Pittsburgh wins outright. Dallas is looking really good. Dak's been awesome. Blew out the Giants. Twice. Two and a half. Not enough points. And the Minnesota's been rolling.

I think Jefferson's maybe coming back this week. We'll see. Josh Dobbs. Denver's been playing good football, but I like Minnesota plus two and a half. Good job, Jack. I'm very supportive of you. Thanks, Red.

Boom and then, Red. Oh, my goodness. Look at this. Let's go full screen just for a moment. You handsome devil. What's happening? Oh, my focus is fucked. What's on with my camera?

Yeah, but Dean, that's how the world looks when you're... Oh, shoot. A couple of mults sandwiches. Get your glasses on. You'll be fine. Yeah, get your double glasses. That'll look perfect. Anyway, I'm out of focus, but here's my picks.

Chicago Bears. Justin Fields is coming back. Plus seven and a hearth against the Lions. Hey, Lions, good team. Playing well, Dan Campbell, he's got him rolling. Seven and a half. You know what that is? It's too many.

Too many. Too many. Too many. Dallas at Carolina. I'm with Jack. The DAC attacks roll on Carolina is not good. 10 and a half. We're going to swallow

a little hard there. It's a deep breath. But like right a week ago, it's like, geez, that's a big number. You know what? Don't worry about it. It's all good. And Philly at KC. Eagles are in tight games every single week. I like Kansas City.

I think Casey might win this thing. But I'm going to take the plus three for the Eagles on the road against the Chiefs. Chiefs. All of a game. There you go. We're getting over,

we're getting over 500 this week with, with my picks. You're doing it. We're doing it. We're doing it. We're doing it. You know what you do when you're a good team guy? Doing it well.

What do you do? You support your friends. Okay. You support the causes. What? Don't think I didn't notice. That's what I'm doing this week. There's nothing to do with numbers or brilliance.

I'm a team guy. I'm going with my buddies and their teams. Damn. Right. Pittsburgh. Chicago. Pittsburgh for the Jack Attack. Chicago for that huge bear's honk living down there. And where do you live?

Chaparral. Look at that. Yeah, that's, me. Oh, wow. There's a lot of boom there. Jeez. There's, birds, birds.

Here comes the boom. And I picked the bills because they're my team, but I'm willing to go with Pinders team, but I don't know if they're playing. I don't have any faith in the charger, so you shouldn't. So die. Who do they play? Who do they play?

Who are you? So I'll pick both of the bills and the Chargers. I'm supportive of my boys. Come on, fellas. Let's go. I can't fight with that logic. He's a good, good teammate, Dean. Good in the room.

Oh, the Chargers of the Packers. No sweat. Three points. That's an easy cover. Yeah. Well, I backed toward it. So if bills or the Chargers win, I got it.

Kind of like the Packers plus three there. Sorry, buddy. Sorry about that. You're not good in the room. I'm not good in the room. No, you're not. Selfish, Dean. Very selfish.

Fuck that. I am good in the room. It's the only thing I'm good at. Which room? The wash room? This room. Toilets. He's a great plumber.

That's right. Great plumber. He's a good plumber. My faucets are great. Things aren't working at your house. Just a crack bowl or text. La boom. Boom.

What's up with my? What's wrong with my kid? Anyway, good thing we're at the end of the show. See, it's focused on the hoop-to-do back there. Oh, maybe it's a signal. That's a sign. It is Friday day. For a good week of work.

No, don't do that. Oh. Hey. There's nothing wrong your eyes. Focus on me. There it is. Yeah. It's got you.

It's got you. That's you now. Yeah. Oh, we just took one behind me. You have an AI camera. You just had to talk to it. Asshole Incorporated. That's us.

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That's what's on the menu. That's it? I'm telling you, there's some issues. Watch that game over in Sweden. That'd be good. Yeah, I think that's great. I send Gary an email. I think he might be tied up with Bonhomme right now,

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It's Friday. I got the shovelers birthday supper tonight, and then I'm up early, up and Adam, son, off to Pittsburgh. Wow. Tell you, Hawking. Windy City. What the brick. Pittsburgh.

Is that not, uh, hmm, okay. So, like, what, how, how early? I'll leave it seven. That's hard. That's perfect. Get a little coffee, a little road trip. It's perfect for me. The 10 year olds less.

enthused with 7 a.m. departure. We got an 8.30 Joe Critchka tomorrow morning. That's going to put some cramps on my plans tonight. Is that how you say that? Yeah. I think I'll be hungry by about that time, too. That'll be tomorrow morning. Are you playing or you're coaching?

You're coaching. Yeah. Earthdays, sticks and pucks, game on Sunday. And then I'm going to see if the Islanders and flames can entertain 5 p.m. Saturday at the dome. I like it's going on Friday, Saturday. I'm not holding my breath for this weekend breakdown. I'm taking the under.

Well, just coincidentally, and I mean, it's a rare, rare occasion, I actually don't, I actually don't have a whole lot on the go this weekend. Oh, lucky you. It is just a coincidence. You must just be bookended with really busy weekends on either side of it. Finally took a weekend off, eh? It's good to sit back, kick your feet up, the alarm and are going to be good for you, Dean.

My daughter has a Rewrised and reloaded on Monday. My daughter has a Rignette game on Sunday, but it's at 11.30, and unfortunately, Dad has football, sweetheart. Bears are playing. The Bears are on. Daddy's team's playing. Sorry, honey.

I thought our team was your team. No, they're not, honey. And tomorrow she's got another ringette thing, but the flames are playing. So sorry, sweetheart. Daddy's got to stay home and watch the hockey game. Yes. And I would,

I'm pleased to announce, we will have the debut on Afterburnery of Kami Kappki, who's coming into the disaster. Kami Kappki. She and Danny Austin. Danny Austin. He'll drag himself away from the football.

Yeah, I think he'll be wound up. Is he not in Hamilton at Stamps House? Getting liquored up? I think he's going to do it. The horse is always there. It's a great couple. Yeah. Danny's going to do the show on Quick Six.

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Well, have a great weekend, everyone. You too, Dean. Good luck, bears. I'm, yeah, I'm so much running around to do, so much on the go, but I'll try. I'm busy. Try to keep, uh, keep gone. A little downtime. You know, find some time for yourself.

A little me time, you know. Can I drop the twins off for like four hours on Saturday? Is that possible? I, you can, but I'm not, I mean, I'll be in the basement. Oh, they love basements. Lock. I'll be, no, I'll be locked downstairs. Like, they can't get down there.

No. Never mind. Um, um. Play with, they can believe the dog. So, four one and one now, the flames? Oh, yes. They're, they're, a team in the history of the league.

Yeah. So fire wagon, is that what it is? Yeah, it's fire wagon hockey. Fire wagon hockey. That's what they're playing right now. But yeah, you know what they'll be, they'll be a wagon by the time we get together next week because they'll be five one and one. And then Seattle will be six one and one.

Nashville, seven one and one. Unless they get the old Nashville flu. You know what's going to happen there is you are. You're going to have a lineup of guys outside Conroy's door. Hey, Craig. Craig, I just, can I sign an extension? Out that extension? I said no to.

If you have time, I'd really like to talk about an extension. This puts Craig right in the driver's seat. He's going to buy a big rig right off of that, the online auction. That's right. Finning. That's Conroy, just cruising in his bulldozer. Hey, we're coming through.

They're grading the competition, boys. Just mowing them over. Damn right. What a time. to be alive. Have a great weekend, everybody. We appreciate you. Take care of yourself. Do something nice for somebody. And we'll talk to you. We'll talk to you next week. See you, buddies.