Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Flames Talk Ft. Bobby Germany | FN Barn Burner - August 27th, 2026

Episode Date: August 27, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What's going on buddies? Welcome to another episode of Barnburner from the McLeod Law Studios. That's right. We are here with the fellas. Fellas. Fellis. Femler, Femler, Femler, Femler, Fender. Got myself, Boomer, Rhett, Pinder, here on a beautiful Thursday morning.
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Starting point is 00:00:45 jubinated this hot weather summer vacation i know look at his skin he's just glowing it's been having all kinds of vacation sacks look at this guy unbelievable it's got his shades on you got to work on the eyes still otherwise he's back baby he's back i'm ready to debate you today uh it's going to be a boomer pinder debate. I warned me about this. Rhett, I told you you, don't have to come in. I wasn't going to be nerdy. I'm going to be pissed off with Twitter at some point today.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Just to channel my inner phone. Walk through to the room. It happens here five days a week. Man, boomer. Hot boomer summer. Settle down, wrench. Welcome to the program. We are here together with the time machine young boomer,
Starting point is 00:01:24 Rhett, myself in the McLeod Law Studios. If you've got legal matters. whatever they may be. Maybe you're acquiring land, wreath. Maybe you're filing for divorce, Bobby. Maybe you need advice, Jack, on your crypto. I don't know, whatever it is. McLeod-Dashlaw.com. Shane King's a partner in the litigation and dispute resolution group.
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Starting point is 00:02:05 They are the best in the biz. My work computer wasn't working this morning, and I thought I got fired. So I was thinking of maybe calling the Cloud Law today. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Do you have a work computer? Yeah, I got a work computer. You're talking to the social media manager of the nation. I don't have a work computer.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Yeah, you're a consultant that works a little different. You can buy yourself on. There's a new one there. I might even steal that. Yeah, that one does look like, did you ever hear the story about Rhett getting caught stealing at the old job? No. I would love to hear it, though. Take it. Not stealing.
Starting point is 00:02:35 If something sits there and that thing is included in this, if it sits there for long enough, it needs to get used. It's like putting your trash out on the side of the road. Once it's out on the side of the road, it's garbage. Just for the record, that laptop computer with $1,000 is not trash. Well, if it sits there for another,
Starting point is 00:02:52 I would say mid-September. There's old Boomer. We have a glitch in the Matrix. Young Boomer and Old Boomer are both a lot at the same time. No, young Boomer, what was the name of this radio station you came in from Brandon from today? Do you remember what that is? 959 Brandon FM. Sure.
Starting point is 00:03:15 It's Picklefest, everybody. I think Picklefest is this weekend in Calgary, by the way. There's no Pickle. And Boomer's in the town for it? Jack, Google it. Pickle Fest. So we have comedy? Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:25 RV Wars is on. What's that? what RV horse campers is like demolition derby with our knees so I was excited that uh
Starting point is 00:03:34 pickle fest yeah I'm telling you we got a you got the pickle sure that's something going on down at that spruce meadows with cabbary
Starting point is 00:03:42 you got super Saturday Stamps play cabs and calves both in the afternoon on Saturday and kids hockey oh taking over thank good
Starting point is 00:03:51 I only have three nice times yesterday oh it's inspiring stuff there's nothing better than just putting on hoodie when it's 30 and going into a rink in your flip flops and wondering what the hell we've done with and you're looking at everyone else that's there going so how was summer then you're like it's over i'm sitting in a break in august that's look at this cat pickle fest calgary 20 20 that's down by my place
Starting point is 00:04:12 uh don bickle and dolly relish shall be there september 5th and 6 no it's august 29th 25 bucks VIP 35 bucks does that say bull riding because it says cowboys there might be a mechanical Jack keeps scrolling around. Sorry. Big Dill. I thought it said Big Bull. No, that's the Big Rock Rory deep in the southeast. That's a picture of downtown.
Starting point is 00:04:36 But you get the whole city is going to be in the spirit of Picklefest, I think. Get a VIP early access at 10 a.m. Then head on down to a big man stadium at one. You're going to have a hell of a day right there. You'll be dilled up by noon. Oh, my God. You thought I was joking about Picklefest. All right.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Now, Boomer guaranteed bad weather this weekend for the comments. Are we, uh, how was that? I was trying to catch up to or to Edmondson with all their festivals. Festival City, a lot of jealousy here. Anytime you go to Evanston, you're like, damn, why can't we have this? It's so breathtaking.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Okay. Here's the weekend forecast. Looks like, let's compare because the other day it was. Mid-20s and no rain. Perfect. Horrible weather can't go outside. Ruined the whole comedy fest.
Starting point is 00:05:18 That was the two, 14-day take. Yeah, my 13-degree weather on Tuesday is now turned into 22. Yeah, that meteorol just got, fired. Is that comedy festival happening this weekend? Are you guys going? If I could someone give me free tickets.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Yeah, Rett's ready for getting some. I was waiting for you to get me free tickets retro. You know what? We're idiots. You and I? Yes, we are. Clowns. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I'd love to see Bill Burr. Bill Burr's in town. I've got to talk to that. Do you know what's going on tonight? Like, we talk about how bored and how stupid our lives are. What's going on site? What? The biggest preseason match of the NFL season.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Oh, yeah. Tonight? It is a slobber knocker. What do we got? Head to head, two of the hottest franchises in NFL. History. Pittsburgh, pissy Steelers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Am I vaunted Buffalo Bills? New coaches. Both have elite quarterbacks in their prime. Exactly. Why are we not there, Jack? I don't know. Where even is it? Who cares if it's the eighth straight quarterback and some duster?
Starting point is 00:06:24 I want to be there with you. Is this the first game at the new? stadium? Or is it in Pittsburgh? No, they played one. It's in Buffalo. Do you like the new stadium? How do you feel about seeing Highmark go down or the old Ralph Wilson go down? If you've been in it, it'll be like the dome going down. There'll be some, oh, that's too bad. But then you'll go in the new building and go, thank God. I'm a little more romantic about the dome, but I do get what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:06:47 Like, it's not a sexy place. You're irrationally a row. 100%. And that's what nostalgia is. It's like, it's not logical. It's just the feels. I just remember, I didn't cruise the concourse. No, like I wasn't sick. You don't need to know all the shortcuts for washrooms. You're just in sweets. You can piss any time you want. We got to have the secret codes and paths.
Starting point is 00:07:07 And here's the place you don't need to line up for beer. That's a different existence. I had in the dome. The cavern that we had a chef down there. Yeah. So no. Those were, that place was a dump. The bills one.
Starting point is 00:07:20 And the dome's kind of gets a little. One year left. That's it. that's it. Last game will probably be what, early June is the Stanley Cup final? Yeah, game seven, the Stanley Cup final. It'll be a big run. Yeah, it's going to be fun. Chuck Boys against the Flames, Jack. Who are you going to be cheering for? Probably the Panthers.
Starting point is 00:07:37 Oh, really? If you want to join the program today, you can do so by simply adding a monetary donation to the U.S. Centers of Calgary to your YouTube chat. We're live on the YouTube's. If you're listening later, you are missing out. You don't get to see Boomer Jr. You didn't get to see the Picklefest graphics. never mind all the hot stuff we've got coming up including a much anticipated Rett's top 10 prospects list.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Oh no. Oh, my God. Is that what I have to look forward to? Uh-huh. The time machine goes both ways. That one's 20 years ahead on the right. 20 years ago is on the left. I assume looks good.
Starting point is 00:08:14 Is he frozen or is that a picture? That's a picture, yeah. Thank you. I always look that is. I see similarities. Looks pretty hot there, right? Well, the weather maybe. What was boom up to about 32 years ago around this time?
Starting point is 00:08:29 Was that pickle fest? Was you at Picklefest? Yeah, September 5th and 6th. I think my mom was at Picklefest in 1990. Don't do any more digger. Oh, God. That's where you stopped. Dad, is that you?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Is your middle name Dean? No. Thank God. That was the Diana Rossini thing. I said to name my kid Mike. Oh, my God. You moron. What are you doing?
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Starting point is 00:09:49 Can I come in and fix bad attitudes? Is that part of the... I haven't seen that, but they are always in good moods and those can be contagious. Okay. Like Bobby being in that chair versus the grumpy guy, that's contagious, you're right? Yeah, you won't be happy for long
Starting point is 00:10:04 no storm clouds over his chair today. Now. It's come on. Crystalclercabry.com for more. Bobby is like champing at the bit. He really wants to relitigate Congress. I think it is chomping at the day. It is champing.
Starting point is 00:10:21 It is champing. It is champing. But everyone says, champing at the bit Google it dude I'm pretty sure because I exactly You will always say on route it's French
Starting point is 00:10:32 Yeah But yeah it's it's we just butcher these Sayings and then for years we say it and that becomes the new sign Like lightning I don't know what champing is Who cares so stupid That means I'm right You sir are a Conner's area Stan
Starting point is 00:10:50 I am we all as What's that mean? That means he's like He's got his back. He is raw, raw. I say fan or Stan? I said Stan. That might be a derivative of a fan.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I don't know. Okay. See, don't you have teenagers? Seriously. They don't mind. I'm doing my best to ignore them. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:11:08 We're idiots. It's cool new lingo in like 2026. I'm 44. You guys are way beyond cool, cool new lingo. So sorry. Yeah, we're answering. Anyway, you're a zary stand. We all were.
Starting point is 00:11:21 And then so to, to frame this, we watched a miserable start to the year. I think it was the first year, Ryan Huska, and that team was awful and uninspired, and they called up Conner Zeri and Marty Pospasol, and it was Caudry and the kids, and that changed the course of that season. Not that they went onto the playoffs and accomplished great things,
Starting point is 00:11:41 but all of a sudden they were watchable. They had a little, yes, young guys, okay, energy, boom. And then you started to dream on the skill set that Conner's area had. We're like, oh, geez, he just walked a D man, or my goodness, Like that's a very high IQ, high-scale play. And it felt like, all right, let's cement this player into the top six for the next decade. It stalled out pretty hard and injuries are a massive piece of that. Twice two seasons ago, he has knee injuries.
Starting point is 00:12:08 The one big one was the hit from Drew Hellison against the Ducks. We were doing a live show at Richmond's Pub. And it was like, oh, boy, that doesn't look good. Cuts to the middle, knee on knee, kind of his fault more than the D-Man, trying to cut across him. Comes back. They're in the playoff chase. tries to go, gets hurt again. Hasn't looked like the same guy since.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Can he get back there or not? Nobody knows. We all want it to happen. So what's the best path forward for him to get that? I think number one, it comes down to him needing an opportunity. I really don't think he got that opportunity last year. And quite honestly, he didn't really deserve it. He struggled last year.
Starting point is 00:12:44 The big thing for me was the skating. I thought his skating was completely off. I thought he was one of the worst skaters on the team. And, you know, you could shock that up to the knee injury. but I always find with athletes, they suffer like a big time injury. The next season, it usually takes them time,
Starting point is 00:12:59 both mentally and physically, to get back to where they once were. And then the following year after that, there is a bit of a return to what they were at one point. Yeah, that's one outcome for sure. That's what I'm kind of banking on when it comes to Connor Zeri this season.
Starting point is 00:13:11 But, you know, I posted a couple highlight videos the other day of Zeri, and there's nobody else on the flames that can do what he does with the puck in terms of creating offense, the dangling, the rushing the puck. you know, for the first year and a half of his career, you know, he was great at that. Yeah, he was a highlight real.
Starting point is 00:13:26 For sure. Human highlight. And the challenge is that last year he wasn't, and that's all post injury. And so what we're hoping is that he can return physically to the place that he was. What you're hoping not for is Yuso Vallamaki, where you went from a guy that looked like a future leader of the club for the next decade and a half and is a fringe, you know, NHL. He played in the American League and helped Chicago to what a HL finals or whatever. And because he was never the same after the injury. And we don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:55 But if you're Ryan Huska, are you placing him above guys that are performing better than him? That's where I have the tricky spot. Because if it's him and Sam Hansig and Hansick playing better, we're like, no, no, no, we need to give Zeri this opportunity. He's like, if one guy's outperform the other, that's kind of how Ryan Hustra works. He doesn't really play favorites.
Starting point is 00:14:11 It's like, who can I trust and who's playing well? It's true. But like, I think there's a way to get Zeri into the top nine. And I think it's at center. And I think if you move Ryan Strom down the fourth line, he plays that Derek Ryan, Matt Stagin kind of role with the team this year. And you put Zeri as a third line center. You can get him into the top nine.
Starting point is 00:14:28 You can get him those minutes. He's playing with skilled players. And you can just give him the opportunity. I think that's all Flames fans are really asking for when it comes to Zerries. Like give him the chance. And if he shows up and he plays well, then great. Then you have a potential top nine four years. Have you liked him as a center?
Starting point is 00:14:42 I mean, it's been a very small sample size. I didn't mind him. I know you thought he was bad. But that's my question is what's the sample size? Because I'm, I'm okay. No, no, no, I know. But moving forward, if you're saying give them center, and I am too, I said, make four lines and let them all go. Yes. Who the hell are we kidding?
Starting point is 00:14:59 Yeah, they don't really have a top line and their fourth line doesn't look much different in the second. So two things was very for me. He had a shitty attitude last year and I don't know if that's frustration with how you were performing or frustration with the coach. But there was a point, I think it took a pretty good shot at him saying, could act in like a cry baby. He was. Cust did that. You're saying? I did. Oh, you did. Yeah. He did something on the ice that showed up. some of his team
Starting point is 00:15:21 bit of a bit of a potty that was bullshit and he's he's had the odd interview that has sounded pouty exit exit interview can you enlighten us on that bobby wait let me finish so that those two that thing and what's a reasonable amount of time to get comfortable at center
Starting point is 00:15:38 at the NHL level and to start to show yeah you know what I mean because it's not a game it's not two it's probably not five is it 10 10 seems reasonable, but is that enough? You know what I mean? Like, there has to be a plan, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:15:55 I'm not going to pull you out of here after three games where it's not working, but I can't go 25. Yeah, right? Like, there has to be a... I was thinking you could maybe do 20 to 30 games and you just, you commit to it. Just because this year, this is not a year where they're going to be
Starting point is 00:16:11 ultra competitive and pushing for the playoffs. This is the year to find out what some of these guys are. And I think this is a big year for Conor Zeri. I agree, but I think Ryan Husk's entire foundation is a meritocracy. And so if Tyson Gross comes out and wins draws and doesn't get scored on, he's a better center option than a guy that's going to lose more than half his draws, doesn't have the size to hang with most NHL centers,
Starting point is 00:16:33 and probably, you know, has a really good chance of getting outscored when he's on the ice. But like, what conversation are we having? Are we having what is Ryan Huska going to do? Or is it what do we want to see happening? Because I agree with you. If it's right, if it's from Ryan Huska's perspective, Zeri's not going to play center. But Ryan Hustra needs to get read the right act and say, Hey, I don't love what you do, but.
Starting point is 00:16:54 And I think that happened. We're trying to build here. Yeah. And I don't, I'd like to the Tricerian Center at some point. But right now, it's a much harder position to play than Wing. And we just saw him have an underwhelming year at Wing. Why are we giving him the harder task? Is it the only way to get him in the top nine?
Starting point is 00:17:08 I think so. Because you, because you're not putting Sharon Govich. Because you're not looking to fill another fourth line fucking. No, but who cares. Let's see. They can be good or get them out of here. Yeah. What's your downside for finding out you're shitty at center.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Bye. Yeah. And if he doesn't perform, he doesn't perform. Well, he might be a good winger and not a good center. And that's the more likely outcome for most forwards. But try it at center. He's not such a good way. If he's not good enough to.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He was good enough at wing before the injuries. And that's what I want to see. And if he's really good there, you're like, shit, maybe we can even try them at center. I don't think you give him the calculus test before the math 12 test. You know what I mean? I would start him on the wing in the top nine. And if that means rotating guys, And look, we'll see if Huberto's ready or not.
Starting point is 00:17:50 They're saying all the things you say in the office. I don't give a shit if Hubertos. But if Hubert's not there, there's a easy. I would sit Huberto in the stands 100 times fair before I would sit a kid. I'm just saying it's not that hard to get him in the top nine in the wing. Like if he played on a line with Strom and Sharon Govich, is that enough for you to say he had a chance to establish value in the room? You're like, oh, you didn't give me anyone to play with. We're kind of back to the Sam Bennett thing where it's like, well, you never played him in the top nine at center.
Starting point is 00:18:13 It's like, yeah, because he was never better than Backlin, Lindholm or Monaghan. Like, you couldn't. And then you play him on the top line. You take dumb ozone penalties in the first period and fall behind. Like he played his way to the fourth line continually. And did that mean he was never going to be a good player? No. But when he was here,
Starting point is 00:18:28 he never took anyone's job. And I feel like that's Connor's area has to take someone's job. What a fucking easy thing for you to say now. Are you saying that the flames did right by Bennett? Well, you and I were in the room and said, this guy needs to change his scenery and you'd be happy to lose a deal if it helps to find this game.
Starting point is 00:18:44 So were we right or wrong? I think we were both. we're right about Benet needing the change of series. So are you happy to allow something like that to happen again? Or do you think that you should learn from your past? What would you do differently with Bob? I would have played them. Well, every time they tried, it didn't work.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So what? Well, give them a longer stretch. It was at least like four or five games and then he's off, he's off playing center, you know? More importantly, you have to be realistic about where you are as a franchise and they fake their way for too long. Yeah, that's fair. They fake their way for too long and they bought into their own bullshit.
Starting point is 00:19:14 We're good enough. We're going to be. You're nothing. You don't have. You don't make the playoffs back to back years. I've never been through the second round. Let's be realist. And the thing with Bennett, too, is there were times when Monaghan and Linholm were playing on the same line.
Starting point is 00:19:26 And Mark Jankowski was the third line center. And they're giving Jankeowski reps there instead of your fourth overall pick and Sam Bennett. So. Yeah. I would have rather seen back then, let's give Sam 20, 30 games. Let's give him a long, give him a whole season. Totally. I didn't say it at the time.
Starting point is 00:19:41 I'm saying I was wrong. In hindsight, yeah. The other thing that I believe that I don't think. a lot of people are on the same page and I'll just eat that but I don't think Sam Bennett if he stayed here turns into the player he isn't. No, for sure. I think when you're drafted the highest in the
Starting point is 00:19:56 history of a franchise, the only franchise there was pressure on him here that he did not feel in Florida all. And he got put in a spot that had there was a much better fit. Well, but look at the talent in Florida. You were saying the flames in the city of Calgary's pressure.
Starting point is 00:20:12 No, I think he, not the city. It was too hot for old Sam. I think the changed the scenery, allowed him to embrace being a plumber and not having to be a star center because he's never going to be a star center. But he went, he went to Florida and automatically became their second line center behind Alex Barkoff. And he's playing with Jonathan Hubert. He played with Duke Claire and Huberto
Starting point is 00:20:28 at first year. And in Calgary, he never really got that chance. I remember there was a small sample of games where he got to play with Johnny Godro when it was like four or five games and that was it. Whereas in Florida, they just automatically made him the second line center and said, run with it. Like, we're going to make you the guy. We're going to play with good players. And Calgary didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:20:44 And that's where I hope they kind of learned from that with Zeri. For good and for bad. There's plenty of examples of players who are given opportunity, even if you don't, if you're like, and all of a sudden you're like, holy shit, he's very good. It happened.
Starting point is 00:20:56 And then there's other guys where you're like, why are we not giving this guy the opportunity? I mean, if you're never given the opportunity, it's impossible. Yeah. No, and I think in both instances, there's been some opportunity given,
Starting point is 00:21:08 but the merit thing keeps happening where we're like, well, Bennett did get outplayed by man, you got passed by all these guys, just like we're seeing with zero, right now. You're like, Gritton's clearly passed him. I think if I'm guessing, I'd say Hansik passes him this year. And it's like, that's a big guess. No, that's injured too. My guess. My guess. Just a guess. But like
Starting point is 00:21:27 the small sample of Hansick last year, I liked a lot more than what we saw from Zerri. And again, it's the first year of injury. Plenty of Hansick where I've not liked as well. Fair. I just, the challenge that it's a philosophical thing is it, do we just staple them in the lineup and give them the opportunity and just cover our eyes when it's not pretty? Or are you like, we are a hard, We can't do this. Other guys deserve these minutes more. And I lose credibility as a coach. If this guy's in here just because he was a first rounder.
Starting point is 00:21:55 That's the, that's, that's, that's the battle. So philosophical. It is a bit philosophical, but I don't, what are you trying to achieve? That's exactly. Where, where are you as a team right now? This is the time for, for any franchise, what are you trying to achieve? So I would say down the middle, you're going to very, you're, you're, you're making bullshit up. What are you trying to achieve?
Starting point is 00:22:14 Well, you're trying to get good in the next. five years. You're trying to win a fucking Stanley Cup. If you're not, I don't want to come watch. Yeah, that should be every team school. So I don't give a shit to find out if we've got another fourth line winger or a third line winger because that's not going to, that's not a second line winger would be nice, but yeah. Like, you, the point, all the point I'm trying to make is you need to find out
Starting point is 00:22:36 if guys can be core pieces. Yeah. And I want them to be. People are going to hear this. Why do you hate Zeri? I would love Zeri to be so good that they trade fair me and get assets back. Like, go do it. I'd love it. I'd love them to have so many good players that they can liquidate older guys into assets.
Starting point is 00:22:52 But I just, I keep coming back to this spot where it's just like, at some point he's going to have to show something. Like, we're not talking about a 19 goal guy that's getting benched. Like, he is struggling to get 10 goals. And he's not going to show that on the fourth line, though. And he's not going to show that in the prep. A couple minutes with. But that's why. It's one bad year, though.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Like, like I thought in 2425, his first half before he got hurt, he was their most dangerous player. like he was creating offense like he was the guy that's attacked the defense on other teams more than anyone else the pre the pre the pre injuries there is the guy we all want and and that's what i want to see and if he shows up then great then maybe he turns into like a morgan frost you can have moving morgan frost and replace him a zeri and if he doesn't become that guy then you just move on like i just i think it's kind of that easy yeah and and again who knows them best awesome we're experts we're not casuals the flames right like we we watch a lot they see even more. Yeah. What were they willing to
Starting point is 00:23:49 to do this summer with them? No, trade them. For what? Nothing. Well, second round pick. And did anyone offer that? No. So what is the consensus around the league about what this guy's value? Well, right now, it's low. Right now, it's not good, but they could turn around, though. Oh, for sure. And like I said, I want it to. Yeah. And there is a chance
Starting point is 00:24:05 that he is an excellent second line winger. I would be interested. But it's a bad, it's not great when the entire league looks and says, because when Sam Bennett was on the market, other teams are like, no, no, no, no. We can rehab this. That didn't happen was there. That's fine. I would be
Starting point is 00:24:21 interested to see what Frost and Farabee's numbers are in terms of years ago. Like, wow, we're looking at this going 25 points of shit. So at 24, what were they? Right? I would say, like, Frost has proven that he's a center. Zeri hasn't. And the offensive numbers
Starting point is 00:24:38 would be in favor of Frost. Fairby slightly in favor. But I don't think it's crazy for him to get to those kind of totals. I don't think he's going to do it at center, but I think he could play it. He was kind of on-paced to do it in 24, 25. I mean, you know, he was on pace for almost 20 goals that year. He had a great start at the injuries.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. Yeah. Like, say you're in the locker room and, and you see Ryan Huska give Connor Zerry the third line center spot. And, and he's essentially giving it to him. Zeri hasn't earned that. You as a player,
Starting point is 00:25:05 are you kind of pissed off saying, well, he didn't earn it or are you like, good, let's give this guy a chance. No, first of all, if you have animosity towards your other,
Starting point is 00:25:13 to your teammates, your room of shit. Yeah, I don't worry about that so much. Tell then. I would There's a bit of the philosophy and whatever your meritocracy.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Hubbardow does not need to play. I am serious. I don't get if he's healthy or not. I don't need him in them. Like, put him in the stands. And I'm just going to sound like maybe a D about it. But what are we finding out with him? Well, you want to find out if the hip resurface exchange.
Starting point is 00:25:42 Why? What difference does it make to our franchise if Jonathan Huberdo has a better hip than he did last year? You got to rebuild his value. Like I think you want to move on that contract to trade him. Yeah. Oh, at the expense of finding out of some of your other kids are good, I think that's a bad tradeoff.
Starting point is 00:25:58 So the point I'm getting at is this is how I would approach it. I'm playing four lines. Yeah. And even if it's Igor in the rafters or Cyplikov, who cares? I don't care who it is. I definitely. I was terrible to start last year. And he still always ends up getting close to 20.
Starting point is 00:26:14 But again, you know what Igor is. If you need to move Igor for a bit to get terribly. That's my point is that you have players that are not going to be core or any, their place. They're place. Yes. Yeah. There's a lot of placeholders here.
Starting point is 00:26:25 Spread it out. Like Frost is a placeholder. Strom is a placeholder. Farabies is a placeholder. Fairbys a placeholder. Dackland. Yeah. I don't need to see Backland.
Starting point is 00:26:35 And I get that. I harp on Backland. It's like he doesn't need to play 20. He's the only guy that can play the T's one at center. That's the thing. You have to find out, Ryan. We don't care if. if Michael Backland can play D at Sender this season.
Starting point is 00:26:52 No, you know. I don't care. I know he can. Yeah. And again, I'm with you. I just know what a coach that's going to be judged. But that coach, then the coach is going to be on the hot seat. That's it.
Starting point is 00:27:03 And that's where Craig Connery needs to step in and say, hey, this season is all about our young players. It's all about development. You remember a year ago, these. I'm supposed to do more Peter Marr. This wonderful humans don't on saddle don't rise. Five God. The best of hopes and intentions and beliefs.
Starting point is 00:27:19 Rebiggle. They were thinking that we were good and we're going to go for it. Rebiggle. What? What are you talking about? Yeah, I kind of think that was an interview that went sideways. I'm not talking about the interview. Last year at this time coming off the prior season where they'd worked their asses off
Starting point is 00:27:35 and you gave them credit for it. You were thinking, Jesus, we might be. We're there. Tybreaker. Yeah. No. You weren't. I think if you gave comments.
Starting point is 00:27:45 funny the truth serum, he'd say there was a very high probability that they weren't going to be good. But yes, you have to lead to that. You can't bail on a locker room after they missed by a tiebreak. I didn't say bail. You could approach how you. But you're right. Publicly, they talked like they were good. And deep down aside.
Starting point is 00:28:02 I think a lot of them thought it. And I think Huska, God, again, give him credit for what he's done. I think he does do a great job. But there has to be a point where you need kids that can come along and make a difference. And if you're not going to play them and find out, it's going to be, well, then keep getting old bastards that are going to be just middle of the road. Playholders. Great. And if their goal was to be bad in 24, 25, 25, 26, they would have traded Cadre, Weeger, Anderson.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I think they would have moved those guys earlier and signal that this is a legit rebuild. But they kept around quite a few veterans. It felt like Coleman, too. It felt like Christmas last year is when they really actually committed to tearing this down. And they've never done that in my lifetime, ever. They've had rebuilds that they were forced into because they were bad at running hockey teams, but they've never chosen a path. I don't think they've ever re- This is it.
Starting point is 00:28:54 For Living rebuilt once. And it was because of bad management. It wasn't a path he chose. And it was one year. And, you know, you hit on Johnny. Monaghan plays right away. Cachuk plays. Like, Geo's at a Norris level.
Starting point is 00:29:06 So it, it repels them into a mediocrity. They think they're good enough. This is really their first rebuild they've chosen. For sure. Now, I'll give you one more on zero. and then we'll move on. If you're the GM, I think you are preparing to sell centers at the deadline because centers get
Starting point is 00:29:21 a premium. We saw Goodwinger's move for not much last year. We saw Coleman not get a first. We saw washed up older centers get first. You have Frost and Strom expiring. They are both absolute chips you want to play at the deadline. If you're the GM, do you want Ryan Strom playing 4C
Starting point is 00:29:37 instead of 3C? We're heading into the trade deadline? I don't think it matters. I think the least knows who Ryan's. I agree. I'm asking the question. I think it's probably. I think he gets, no one's trying to uncover the rock. They know.
Starting point is 00:29:49 I think he gets a mid to late round draft pick no matter where he plays in the lineup next season. That's kind of the way I see. Like he's two years removed from what? Like a half point of game? Was he 40 points, 41 points? For like three straight years.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah. So you know what he is. But yeah, it's going to be interesting. His value increase is going to come on. The other guys get an injured. Yeah, but also having a good year. That's always a piece. But you're right.
Starting point is 00:30:15 But like the difference between playing Strom at 3C and Zeri, like Zari could be there for a long time if he hits and he gets back to that form, whereas Strom, he's guaranteed to get traded. So it's like I would rather prioritize Zari in that situation. And then when you trade Strom, I mean, if you get a third round pick or a fifth round pick, does that really make a difference in your rebuild?
Starting point is 00:30:33 No, you know? That's fair. I would say this. They traded for the seventh form. If you can get anything better than that, you've won the deal. That's solid asset management. And you bought a placeholder or what copy he was gone.
Starting point is 00:30:42 It was a good piece of business. The Ryan Strom transaction, is going to be a win no matter what happens from here. It's like you gave up nothing. You found someone to mop up center minutes. That allowed you to move cadre. And he's a great guy. Like, seems like he's fantastic in the locker in which I think they've done a good job
Starting point is 00:30:57 collecting those guys. You talk about White Cloud and only Matta when he was here. And now Middleton, you know, I think Strome fits that group as well. It's like, look, we know that we're not competing for a cup, but we're going to make the room a place you want to be and we're going to work hard. We're not going to quit on games. It's terrible. It's a tough spot to be in around.
Starting point is 00:31:12 It really is. As a player going into the season, you can, Oh, we're going to make the playoffs. 84 games. Jesus. Get out of here. Once they all-star break. If I wanted to lay the perfect path out,
Starting point is 00:31:28 I'm going to cement him in my top nine for a long time here. And you are going to move centers of the deadline. Get Zeri to reestablish strong play if he can on the wing. And then after the deadline and or trades, there's going to be lots of minutes at center. I don't start him with the toughest test. Fair? Yeah. And I think if you want to find a path that, okay, here's our plan to make it work with Zeri. That's what I would. I think we're naive too, because we're not including everyone that's part of their system.
Starting point is 00:31:59 It's great to say we want Zeri to be a centerman. And obviously there's huge value if he can become a centerman. And if he's an elite centerman, even better. But is that Conroy's plan? I don't think it is or he wouldn't been on the block all summer. Right. I think they made the mind of fun argument and fun debate. And I think that he should play it. You might as well find out because I think this season is a throwaway season. Yeah. Terrible to say.
Starting point is 00:32:23 But even if he does, I mean, he's going to have to elevate significantly. Mm-hmm. To cement himself as a just be a top six winger, never mind his center. If he's going to be a top. Yeah. Top six forward. Yeah. Wherever it is top nine.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Mm-hmm. Like I think what we're trying to achieve is he should be on the. third line because we want. I would move. He can prove it. I know they love him and he's going to play the Blake Coleman role, but I have no allegiance to Joel Farabee if you can get you assets. You have too many wingers still.
Starting point is 00:32:56 I agree. Like what? You're going to trade him in a year or not now? Why? What does that gain? Well, and if anything, you might be able to get more for him this year because you're going to have two playoff runs if you're the acquiring team. Five million bucks for a third line winger at the deadline isn't crazy.
Starting point is 00:33:09 Whatever. Yeah. Like, and that would allow you more minutes in the top. for Zeri and Hansik and a theoretically healthy Huberto. Even guys like Cairns maybe and Stronggren, like if you want to give them a chance, Sunneyev. Cairnsis, they're not going to be able to do it. Those are the quadet, you guys.
Starting point is 00:33:26 They're not. It's one of those guys. You see them there. It's another thing, though, like, don't you want to give them an opportunity? I'm telling you, because I'm old, eh, Bob? There's so many guys in the history of the game that are very good minor hockey in the minors. Elite, elite, elite level. Matthew Ellis.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I think I said it. It's hard to play the NHL. It's hard. I thought Walker said that. That was way off. But like you can come along your whole life and be the best of the best of the best and never played the NHO.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah. And you're a pipe per game in the A and all of a sudden it's like, yeah, well we... That split second matters. Feet. Especially for a guy like Cairns who's not a best skater. Yeah. That's just it.
Starting point is 00:34:11 Yeah. Yeah, soon as I'm not, I still think there's some ceiling there. But like, Roy Cairns is going to go lead European leagues and scoring and make a ton of money. The sooner he gets over there, the better his career is going to. It's not happening in the NHL because he's going to have to carve out a bottom six center role. And that's going to be the hardest thing to do with his skill set. He's not a top six. No, he's not.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I mean, it's a great guy to have on your American League team, though. And he's quite for game. He can get called up if you run in injury issues or trades. Sure. And that's what's happened in the last two years. He in. He's an insurance. And that's fine.
Starting point is 00:34:42 These are quad A guys. It's not a guy. There's zero chance that Karen's ever becomes an elite player in the NHL. Yeah. Like he'll get his cup of coffee. Yeah. I'm kind of with you. Very good.
Starting point is 00:34:54 Was there enough fighting there? Are you mad at me? I'm pissed. I want to jump over this table and just throws a body slam him. What would Boomer do when he's pissed? Shut up. He would be still silent. He wouldn't be smiling like I am.
Starting point is 00:35:07 I feel like I've smiled a lot. I wouldn't allow him to put comments on our show, Jack, if he's not going throw a little cash in the kid. Cheap ass, eh? Yeah, seriously. What, you don't want to help the kids, boom? You centers of Calgary? Speaking of super chats, you've already got three. Really? Damn. All this hockey talk. Is it Zeri specific? Because we can close it. It's not, we'll leave them. Or we idiots?
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Starting point is 00:36:21 Yeah. Tie downs. Yeah, they can really fill it up. I don't know that if you've been paying attention over Flames Nation. They've been counting down the top 20 prospects. I know you haven't, but I've been telling you about it,
Starting point is 00:36:33 so you're aware it's happening. You don't read the website every day? I was first thing. You know what? He gets up early and the CTEs forgotten by the time he comes in. but so much info. So our shoulders.
Starting point is 00:36:42 He reads at a 4 a.m. Then he's forgotten by 10. Something like that. Why? Who's up? Who's, well, we'll get to the rankings in the Pinda report.
Starting point is 00:36:49 But Bobby and I were part of, how many people? It was like 15 plus people that contributed to the press? I was like 8 or 9. Okay. Yeah. So you got the pike, you,
Starting point is 00:36:56 me probably dual nerd, just heavy nerds. I warned you about the show. This is going to be a nerdy show. Full nerd. That's why I needed you here. Jack, did you bring him in?
Starting point is 00:37:05 Yes. Jack, let's go get a drink. Let's look at Bobby's top 10, my top 10, and we got Rhett, who has been just stewing over these lists, really worried about where the place, guys. He's been grinding his top 10. We'll start with Bobby's top 10 prospects.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I'm kind of worried Red's going to get a scouting job at the flames with the amount of work he's looking for this. They absolutely. I hear they like you. That's weird. Interesting. Bobby Walker's 10 to 1. Yeah, number one, Carson Carl is pretty obvious.
Starting point is 00:37:33 I think he's number one on everybody's list in our top 10 ranking. So that's an easy one. this is kind of where it gets interesting is that number two, I have Ethan Wittenbach there over guys like Cole Reschney. I think with Wittenbach, there's a special quality
Starting point is 00:37:48 about him. Like when you watch him, the passes he makes, the vision he has, the skill, the ability to know where to go to score goals, I think it's like
Starting point is 00:37:58 in that special category. And he's one of those players who grew up, like his dad runs a rink on Long Island. There's so many parallels to Johnny, man. I don't want him to have to live with it, but it's like he wins
Starting point is 00:38:08 the Johnny Goddra, award in the USHL. Similar story. Huge point production. The profile physically is similar. The playmaking ability. A little guy? Yeah. Smaller guy. He's bigger than Johnny was at this time. But still a very small. Small winger. Yeah. But like you watch him at the World Junior.
Starting point is 00:38:22 In like the NCAA and the World Junior Summer showcase. Like he's dominating. He was the best player at the summer show. And it wasn't really close. And it wasn't flames people saying it. It was the prospect nerds that have no team allegiance. So like Wittenback's been unbelievable. Really? I think I think he has a potential to be a point per game player in the league. Like almost like a
Starting point is 00:38:38 Clayton Keller type of guy. Like you watched him? Yeah. Oh, I watched. Bobby, give us the scouting report. I mean, you just did, I guess. I thought he had shitty feet. Yeah, he could work on a skating. He's not quite as shifty and dynamic as Johnny was,
Starting point is 00:38:50 but I just, I think the smarts and the playmaking. What do you mean? He's not as shifty and dynamic as John. That's BS. If you're not going to be that good for me. No job for you. Yeah. You can't be that shifty, son.
Starting point is 00:39:00 You're not making the league. And then, yeah, I go Reschney. I think Reschney is going to be fantastic. I think he's going to be a second line center in the league. I thought at the World Junior. summer showcase. He was Canada's best player by far. Canada's game ran through Cole Reschney. He was awesome at World Juniors
Starting point is 00:39:14 last year, Boy the C in the summer. I think there's more ceiling the year than I thought when the draft. Bob, this is Bob's top 10. He's on first power play unit, first line, playing penalty kill, taking big draws. He was a go-to guy for Canada, the World Juniors last year, and I think he's only going to get better. He was the alpha there for sure. Yeah. The assistant
Starting point is 00:39:32 captain. Then I got yeah, I got Hextall. Number four, Jack Hextall took in this year's draft. I think he's got a nasty, nasty temper, Red. He'll snap. Did he ever lose it on you? No, I was never down near him. Brett was smart enough to.
Starting point is 00:39:48 That's fair. Stay at the blue line. Didn't get any chops from, when you're coming around the net, and he chops you. He's very, heck, same. Double O T, game six, last game of the four. I think he's got the potential to be a legit,
Starting point is 00:40:01 third line center, kind of a defensive guy, shut down guy. So I got him at number four. And there might be some recency bias. there. And there also might be some injury bias with the next three players, Hansick, Potter, Mews. All of them have dealt with injuries over the last year.
Starting point is 00:40:14 So maybe that's one of the reasons why I had them just below Hextall. I'm curious to see what Potter is going to do this year at Michigan State, playing a full year. He's a super dynamic player, great skater. Smaller guys. Incredible pace, apparently. Yeah. It was regard as the best skater in the draft in 2025.
Starting point is 00:40:32 And then we got Sunnius, Stuxlius, and Trayball to finish it off. I think there's a chance for him to be a middle six score at the NHL level, maybe like an 18 to 20 goal guy if he hits the ceiling. Open some winner spots, Connie. Come on. And then we got, yeah, Stux Staley's and Trayball to round it out. So that's my top 10. Anything before we said.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So sad. Well, I'm just looking at this. So sad. No, no, no. No, I'm talking. Every team would have 10 guys. The guys rating it. How many are going to make it back?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Yeah, if half those guys are, players, you've hit a home row. Right? It's not a criticism. It's sad because these guys working their asses off, trying to be the best. They want to be impactful. And it just won't happen that three years from now, we see every one of those kids. You see half here and you've done an incredible job.
Starting point is 00:41:22 That's why I think it's actually, I think this rebuild's going to take longer than a lot of people think. Shut up Bob. Cut his mic. You know, people are talking about like two to three years. I want to say thanks to Bobby Germany for coming out. All right. It's been great having him. Crystal Waters.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Flaming and eating. Guestadeline. Don't do it, boom, I'm the grumpy guy, boo. All right, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:41:43 But, like, I don't think it's a bad thing, though, like just rebuilds take time. Like, a lot of these teams, like,
Starting point is 00:41:48 like Chicago, it's going to take six or seven years to get out of this. It's taking San Jose a long time. It took fucking three rebuilds. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:41:55 like, it takes time. That's so. Message to you. The key, though, is if they want to get out this rebuild quick is, like you guys said,
Starting point is 00:42:01 probably five of those guys have to be difference makers within the next three to four years. The other thing, Carl's got to be a legit top pair guy, and Wittenbach's got to be 70, 80 points, and Reschee's got to be a top six center. The other thing you do is you do what Connie did this summer,
Starting point is 00:42:13 which is you take a 16 and 17-year-old kid that's not drafted yet and turn those two assets into Simon. Or Simon, what are he's calling him? You tell me. Okay. You know more than I do. What you do is you have a meeting with Mr. Huska and say,
Starting point is 00:42:27 don't you go and mess us up. All right, I'll show you my top 10. I think we've got a lot of similarities and then a few little differences here. The top is the same in Carl's. I have Ressiony had a Wittenback just because I think centers are so premium and hard to find. And I think Wittenback has a chance to be great.
Starting point is 00:42:48 There's also a chance that he's one of those profiles that can't produce at the NHL level. I love the prospect, but I have Rishney higher. Big Mews, Stan. We looked at Mews numbers the other day. If you didn't have so many Rage. D already arrived, you'd be foaming over this guy more.
Starting point is 00:43:02 If you were a bottom 10 team in the league, this would be your top prospect. All he's done is put up points everywhere. He's gone and been great injury last year. Heard some ditto for Potter. I would call him weather. News, weather. News.
Starting point is 00:43:17 Weather. News and weather on the 10s. Hey, Jack? Red FM. You like that? Weather. That's a stretch. I like it.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Anyway, sorry. Potter, yeah. Become hairy, or is that too on the nose? Yeah. Griffin door Gryffindor That's what we needed I love the
Starting point is 00:43:34 the goaltenders Rubin out of Russia I think they've got a good pile of young goalies a lot of them from Europe but I think he'll be the best of the bunch The goal of the department loves this guy He's putting gaudy numbers up in Russia
Starting point is 00:43:45 And it's his first pro campaign In North America you see him with the Wranglers This year a bunch Trayball they take first goalie off the board This year in the draft really like him Not sure we'll see him at World Juniors Looks like the checks of them Sort of in the three four hole there
Starting point is 00:43:58 And then Hanzik, I have been a yo-yo on this guy. I've been very high. I've been, it's never going to happen, and I'm kind of back. I really like the small sample we saw last year on the back line. He's big, he can fly.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I don't think the IQ is great, but he's strong and a banger and has enough skill that he can bang some pucks in. He's a big winger. He brings speed to the table, which this flames team desperately needs. I think he'd be a good fore-checker. I think you could teach him how to be a good defensive player and a penalty killer.
Starting point is 00:44:29 my thing is turn him into Blake Coleman do everything you can to turn this guy into Blake Coleman and if you can do that I think you'd be really happy Shackless Lamov is a guy that's interesting profile big and skilled so we'll see what happens there I heard of this person What round was he taking Bobby three I want to say?
Starting point is 00:44:46 Yeah or end of round two Yeah either way just a toolsy prospect And I'm a little lower on Hextel because I think the feet are the big question mark everything else everyone loves But it's even at the summer stuff Skating started to show up and that's not against NHLers. It doesn't mean he can't figure that out
Starting point is 00:45:02 or improve enough to become a good centerman. There's also a really good sentiment that don't skate well. I love the line of the lives of the world Monaghan. But that's got me a little more concerned because that's a trait I think is crucial. That's my top 10. I like it.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Wrette, you were grinding. You get any sleep? You were working on this thing for ages. I forgot my sheet at home. Do you believe it? I got you covered, Ray. Jackson. No, you sent it to Jack.
Starting point is 00:45:24 So here it is. mine looks the same so walk us through it right he's got that awesome quad and a belt buckle should he be wearing a helmet there or is that just the cat a guy
Starting point is 00:45:38 you want tough that bastard you better be good yeah I mean anytime you pick six you have to hell to six did he not it feels like Smith and then Daxson Rudolph
Starting point is 00:45:54 we're like okay this was a guy we didn't we talked about it for months if only Carl's could get to six the flames will be doing backflips but good things don't happen to this organization will never happen
Starting point is 00:46:04 and then it did and you're right he's got to work out like it's critical that he ends up being a top pairing defenseman or at least a top four who can be a shutdown guy
Starting point is 00:46:14 can't be a top four he's got a top four well at least you got Nemich and you got correct like if you can make a strong those two donkeys are two one you need a security blanket big minute guy
Starting point is 00:46:23 you know Ryan McDonough yes go ahead because I'll take care of the rest like wear a letter play big minutes when you're up by one with the minute left, you're on the ice, you run the room. Like, it's a lot of expectation when you take a guy at six,
Starting point is 00:46:35 but you look at the tools. Like, there's a lot to like here. Yeah, I think if he could turn into a guy like Brent Seabrook or somebody like that, kind of similar size, similar background. If only there was a guy you could work with to help him. Hmm. Ask Conner if there's anyone who's he deals. Well, yeah, if I'm Seabrook, I'm taking Carl's under my wing
Starting point is 00:46:55 and I'm visiting him all the time and I'm helping him out like crazy. Because I think if he could turn it to that level of player, the flames would be very happy to get a guy like that at six. Throw that one of the bobby, your eyes list up right now. It doesn't matter which one. Not looking at the numbers, but just for it. Rebuilds do take time and you look at a San Jose team that's not there yet, but close. How many years have they been doing this a long time?
Starting point is 00:47:15 How old are their prospects? You know, last year is what, the second year of Celebrini's career and he's a superstar. This team doesn't have that. But this spring, those top three guys are all going to sign unless they get hurt. win back said it Carl's has said it Resny's said it like their goal
Starting point is 00:47:31 is to dominate the league they're in and then sign dominate the world juniors try to win a goal of world juniors try to win a national championship of the Frozen 4 and when your team is eliminated
Starting point is 00:47:42 pen to paper let's go Potter the same thing Potter's interesting because like he did miss significant time last year I want to see where he's at in a better program this is a third college year
Starting point is 00:47:52 which I think is pretty interesting so he might want to turn pro after all those years well and the other thing is if you're the flames, even if you think maybe he's not quite ready, you don't want to lose him for nothing, you sign him. You get him in the system. Exactly. If he goes into a senior season, the threat of departure becomes way higher. Do you, okay, so you had Mews at four. Do you have any intel or anything like why you put him so high, like, or like what the flames think about him?
Starting point is 00:48:13 Like, why is he so high on your list compared to some of the others? When you, like, for example, if you go to Byron Bader's hockey prospecting website, you can look at, you know, the probability of profiles paying off. So when you're this age and this league putting up this kind of production. Here's how often this turns into a good player, an average player, or bus. And he's been tracking along to be like a fringy star the whole way. And if he didn't get injured
Starting point is 00:48:38 last year, he might be a rank for this year. I don't know. But like, you can't look at anything he's done and be like, uh, he really took a step back. No, he just continues to put a point wherever he goes. He's going to take a step back this year. He's in Michigan and Landon. So we'll, we'll see how they do that. See, this is the thing. Pitter just goes to other people's stuff and uses that.
Starting point is 00:48:58 It's called research because I'm not a scout. I know Boomer hates it, but I do talk to other people that their job is to watch hockey players. Got us to do that and read articles. I know. How dare you? Yeah, I got blasted for taking five minutes on my vacation and reading an article. It's okay, dude.
Starting point is 00:49:12 Having a coffee. It's better than Spartan up. Better than doing downward dog. Where would you have been when you got drafted by the Panthers on a top 10 Florida Panther prospect list? 32 years ago today, I was. about 240 pounds. 4.40. Gordy.
Starting point is 00:49:29 Yeah. Some Dustin Bufflin numbers. I just recently got back from Japan where I had been benched during the Halenka tournament. You did find those beer vending machines. Your vending machines turned up wonderfully. Yeah. They don't ID at the beer vending machine.
Starting point is 00:49:45 Sorry, what did you ask me? Where would you have been on a Panthers list? Like, who else was in the system is prospect? I mean, that's it. And how many years? That's not sure. There was a guy by name of Chris Armstrong played Moose Jaw. The year before, 94 was
Starting point is 00:49:58 the lockout. He had he'd come, I think he was a second round pick from the year before I was. He had had a really good camp. And if there hadn't been a lockout, he might have a chance. Then the lockout came and he never ended up playing. So, but no, remember, they only had two years
Starting point is 00:50:14 of drafters. Right. So it's always new. They had a bunch of, you'd be guaranteed to be free. Yeah, and they had a bunch of old bastards who were awesome dudes. Then they're like, well, we're probably going to have to bring some of these guys along. Turn them and glue guys, right? Back of the day, did they have, like,
Starting point is 00:50:29 player development staff that you would talk to? You got a folder or a binder sent to you in the summer with the letter and say, here's your program, give her. And that's it. No one checks in on you. No, that's... In the world, Bobby, they asked me to go down to train in the summer. I said, no.
Starting point is 00:50:45 18-year-old kid going to Florida by yourself. Do you want to come down and train here? No. You know, it's a pretty good year for bugs. I might not go to Miami and I'll just stay at the lake. What are you doing? Didn't even think about it. I'm like, no.
Starting point is 00:50:59 They played downtown then, Bobby. Right. The action. No, that was 18 years old. That was not the action. That was the- Okay, but closer to the action. Now they're basically in Fort Lauderdale.
Starting point is 00:51:10 So they're in the middle of nowhere. There was no swamp. I was talking to a guy on the way in today because I'm grumpy, so we like to bitch to each other. And even back then, the trail, run six miles. Well, why, yeah, you're part of your testing? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Six mile run. You had a 15 lap skate. Yeah, because of the shifts where you skate 15. Yeah, that pays, that totally translates to the initial. Don't work on any 40 second shift stuff. Yeah, I don't want you sprinting. Give me a good eight minute workout. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:41 That'll translate. Light jog, late six. That's stupid. I think in 89, I remember hearing the story, Hawk and Lou would come over. And it was like, you knew he was skilled, but. North American game was very different. And they made them run the, uh, the track of the horse track in the mud. And none of them had the right gear and he had the wrong shoes.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And it was like he was either going to finish that run and make the flames or he was going home. And it was close call. And luckily he stayed in score 50. Thank God. Crazy. Mentally tougher. We were mentally tough. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:14 That's what it was. And the training was dumb. Oh. Completely stupid. That was you were, you were actually training your brain like. okay, guess I got to do this. And so did you come into camp in shape or no? You would have been fired up.
Starting point is 00:52:27 Oh, it's first year. Yeah. Did you make the team your first year? Was that your second year? Yeah, so he must have been in good shape. That's six months ago. First year was the lockout. Oh, two law counts.
Starting point is 00:52:37 I wouldn't have made it anyway, but no. It's amazing the difference in even kids going to junior camps, even kids go into midget triple A camps. If you're first year going in, you're like, why do I think I'm in shape? Then you go and you're like, oh, no. There's another level. These guys are really. I know one of the flames prospects yesterday
Starting point is 00:52:55 crushed it in a junior testing program. You don't drop names or you're not insider? I've not an insider. I've not an insider. You could probably do the math. Thought today it was the day. Yeah, okay, good. Do the math. I know what that means. Large fella.
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Starting point is 00:54:15 Just until the end of September. Yay. I got the family one. It's like 20 to 25 sharpening. pay it off. Everyone in the family can use it. I'm going to make it money off you. Hell, yeah. You bring it to the rank. You charge your teammates and other parents. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:54:29 That's game in the system, Bobby. We don't want to say that. I can say that. And adrenaline is pulled out. It's the Barnberger show. Thanks, Bob. Thanks for coming in. Are you coaching this year? Yeah, I'm coaching Fall Ball 2, which is a nightmare. It's too busy. It's going to be five weeks. What are you better
Starting point is 00:54:45 at? Baseball coach? Or? I haven't coached baseball for years. It was like, fall ball ball is full, and I'm like, oh, shit. The registration was up in front of the two weeks. But if you want to coach, we'll start another team. All right. I'll do that every year. Now you're the manager, your first base coach, third base coach, pitching coach.
Starting point is 00:55:00 I'm the skipper and let's have fun here. Who can throw and catch? Who wants to pitch? Let's go. Love baseball. You got some good assistance. Got some assistance and no way to it. John Schneider is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. Gibby. Yeah. Gibby. Good vibes. Yeah. Very chill. Layed back.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Sit back. Get tossed when I need to. I was post game interview. Just laying back in your chair. played pretty will, D. Yeah, Dan, and San Antonio. I saw that once. Rung a straight-up, two second and third.
Starting point is 00:55:26 It's going to be a busy, chaotic month. We've got our draft coming up. You are entering the fantasy football media hacks league for the first time. I don't know if I want to give you nuts. Are you your commitment? Jacks joined the league since he came on Barnburner. Rhett, you and I are OGs of this league. Back to the early days at 960 when we had
Starting point is 00:55:45 McBride was doing a roughneck show. I think Beau Levi had a stamps thing. that he was doing on air every once in a while. We got Kerr and Lombardius doing fantasy, which is insane. They didn't last long. But are you coming in green or are you a grizzled fantasy football expert? I would not call myself an expert. I play every year.
Starting point is 00:56:07 But, yeah, I'm not one of those diehards who's researching multiple hours a week. I go off vibes. I go off gut instinct. Those are my big thing. RET does too. It's always something. That plus bills. It works.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And then Seahawks for me. A lot of JSN. Sure. A lot of Sammy Darnold. Maybe a little defense. Seahawks defense. If you guys do a defense, I haven't checked. Thanks, Bob.
Starting point is 00:56:29 You can cut us, Mike there. We're going to do our drafted Greta this year, which is always the best place when you've got an eclectic group. Maybe it's an office party, family in town, just a night out with the fellas or maybe a fantasy football draft. Big games on TV.
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Starting point is 00:56:59 Let the games begin at Greta Bar. When we go, I'm challenging you to a game of basketball. Have you seen the guys to do both hands? It's just, that's how you set the records. No, but I'm going to get to start practicing. Basically, you just have to. Yeah, you're going to be closet training. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Well, we're there back-to-back nights because we've got Yasmin's going away party the night after the draft. I can't believe she didn't invite. Well, you're invited. you're just not in the afterburners chat, which you don't do afterbarers? How many days is your anniversary celebrations? Five, six, you get a big gala. One hour. One hour on the night of our draft.
Starting point is 00:57:30 So the next night is the NFL opener. We're going to grader bar. We're going to watch the game. Yeah, NFL's opening Wednesday. Super Bowl rematch. And then the Thursday's a banger, too. What is it? Rams, Niners.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Rams Niners. A lot of NFC West going on there. I love it. The Niners are very distracted. The NFC West didn't lose to anyone in the playoffs, of stuff the NFC West. Impressive. Good division.
Starting point is 00:57:53 Are you excited by NFL? Are you going to retire enough? I'm nervous. Nervous for your bills? Not on top of how they're looking. They are always going to be good because they're my bills. Right. Got that.
Starting point is 00:58:03 I'm nervous too retro. You should be nervous. Your team is. Your team is, you're in the flames of 10 years ago mode where you're pretending we're still good enough to win. And you just need to read. We should be fine.
Starting point is 00:58:17 Fat Mike. Change. our systems. You know, he worked with Rogers 80 years ago, and it went, well, I can't see this going sideways. It's like the flames hiring Mike Keenan. Yes. In 2008. Worked well for you, didn't know?
Starting point is 00:58:28 I loved it. And did your career? That in my abilities. What percentage is Keenan? What percentage is abilities? Oh, he definitely. He wasn't definitely. There's the walk the plank.
Starting point is 00:58:41 He was pushing. He was. Do you have a Keenan story you can share about that year? Are you going to keep quiet? Oh, he hated Who was he scratching you to play? David. In hail or who's that big?
Starting point is 00:58:57 Renan Nicholson? He was a East coaster. Party. Oh, Adam Party. Adam Party. Famous piece in that Dion deal. Yes. Hoy.
Starting point is 00:59:08 Don't do that again. I feel like you were a Mike Keenan type of guy, though. Like hard nose, tough, physical. You'll fight. He didn't like people that were part. of the community. He didn't. Everywhere he went.
Starting point is 00:59:21 I'm not joking. I just like Keenna didn't like people. Interoperative community. Hockey players not. Because a lot of people would be. Guess you can't drink in Nashville. Doing some team building, Mike. You know what that is?
Starting point is 00:59:43 Not fair. Tough one. Okay. We'll keep moving here. I think our boy snores. Oh, do I ever? Jesus Christ Top quality
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Starting point is 01:00:50 Then you get better sleep. That girl's not going to dump you. tell you got the snort treatment should come back into your life Bobby. Unfortunately that did play a role. My last relationship. Well, see, there you are. Outdoor Dental. Why did I know of the Salea Laser? Outdoor. Dot Dental. Do your homework. Dr. Jay's got you set up.
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Starting point is 01:01:21 dot dental for more and information. Alex Nealander signed with the flames. It's one of the second PTO of the seasons. It's PTO season, rat. How exciting. Happy PTO season to you. Should have got the other one,
Starting point is 01:01:33 although he drives me nuts too. I would take the drama for the outcome or for the episode. I take the 90 to 100 points a year. Yeah. Were you ever a PTO? Almost a PTO? Did you ever sign one? No.
Starting point is 01:01:45 When it was over, it was over. His last year was watching more than playing. Yes. Although, didn't you flirt with the wings at some point there? I didn't know. That was the year Keenan was sitting me. Right. Made way too much money for what I could accomplish.
Starting point is 01:02:04 No p. You earned that. You must have been a value deal with a deal before. You did all right then. So I have these lockout steel in your money. The lockout was not good. Really derailed. Well, you said two, although you might not have made it the first one.
Starting point is 01:02:20 The first one was, yeah, no. You're a junior. What is negotiating a contract with Daryl Sutter like? You got two minutes? It's like, hey, I'm giving you this. This conversation will be longer than the negotiation. I walked to the room. There were two, a three and a four year deal on the board.
Starting point is 01:02:36 He goes, you can have that or that. Call your agent, let me know. Pick one. Locked out. I'm like, I kind of like that. I respect that. I didn't like paying my agent three. I was going to say, you should have fired your agent and then pick one.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Save yourself to five percent. That's what the phone call should have been. I should have phoned it. I officially are fired. I've done a great job, but I think I'm capable of my own. If you're a big time player in the NHHL, like I know Drew Dowdy doesn't have an agent.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Like, do you need an agent? Because, I mean, you're giving away a lot of money to those guys. Like, if you're doubting and you know, I'll be burning bridges. I think there's times where they are a massive piece. Like when,
Starting point is 01:03:12 like let's say you're Dylan Larkin without an agent right now. That's a nightmare. For sure. Because you need someone to be the conduit. You don't want to be in the yelling matches. with upper management. And then I think if you look at Cutter Goce, that guy's probably made an extra 50 million by having an age.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Yes. I don't know. I think to Rhett's point, like when you're a well-established NHL or later in your career and what you're worth is a very well-established amount. You just want to play and not worry about it. You don't have to. Just a piece of mind there, right?
Starting point is 01:03:45 If you're happy playing in Columbus, you could probably just carry on. And if you're not trying to, make the extra money that Goce might make because of his agents. You don't have a grand plan and you're like, I play hockey and I want to play hockey and I'm just going to get paid reasonably. You don't need an agent, Ben. Dowdy's an interesting one because they've said it's his last year.
Starting point is 01:04:05 He's not said it's his last year. This might be the year he wishes he had an agent for those kinds of chats. Now, did they say that or not be hard for Drew Dowdy to get an agent or sign a deal in my thing? Yeah. I mean, it'll be teams lining up to sign that guy. And he's one of those guys. He doesn't do the off-ice endorsements. Like he's just a pure hockey guy.
Starting point is 01:04:23 So maybe he doesn't really need that help on the business side. Well, he doesn't do the money. That's for sure. No, definitely not. He's doing just fine for himself. Anyway, Alex Nealander. Yeah, that's right. That's a good thing.
Starting point is 01:04:32 Go get him, Alex. He was high picks, top 10. I think ninth overall for- brother was seven, I believe. Yeah. I mean, he's had a couple stints in the NHL where he's had a little bit of success. I mean, he had a decent year at the Blackhawks one year. He went on that scoring heater in Columbus.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I don't know if you remember that. That's right. I think he scored like 11 goals in 25 games. So what they found? And then he's back to being Alex Nealder. And, and you know, he had success with the Marley's on a championship team last year.
Starting point is 01:04:55 I think it makes sense from a Wrangler perspective because they need offense. I mean, last year, the offense was anemic. Like, it just, it was not good down. There's a bad.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Unwatchable team last year. Really bad. And they lost Martin Furk this year. I bet you they might lose maybe like an offender or a Karens or strong green on waivers. Maybe one of those guys potentially. The flames might call up the Sunnius. So like the Wranglers, they need help.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Yes. They really do. And they've overhauled that roster. Big time. And the blue line is completely turned over, which is crazy. The other thing is that it's a PTO. He has not signed with the Rangers. So he might be a perfect fear of the Wranglers and decide to go play in Sweden or whatever.
Starting point is 01:05:29 Like he's not going to the Wranglers necessarily at all. I think he'd love to have him there. For sure, you would. Because he's a proven good H.L. But it's PTO's. PTO's. I mean, this isn't Chris Verstieg, who you know could play in the league and pick the right spot. This is a very different scenario.
Starting point is 01:05:45 Yeah, it is. They already have too many wingers. It doesn't make sense to an NHL. It's almost irrelevant because they've got so many wingers here. He's going to really have to come in and do something. But if you're a guy like him, I think the Wranglers would be a good team to play for. I mean,
Starting point is 01:05:56 you're guaranteed to be in one city depending if you get called up or not. You know, Calgary is a nice place to live, you know, when you compare it to other HL markets. Yes. You're drunk. No, the HL, I mean, there's nicer spots. It's Palm Springs in San Diego, but there are some dumps, yeah. Have you been to Sweden?
Starting point is 01:06:12 Oh, sir. He was saying the HALG. I understand the HAL. I'm in the HL, but he might not be weighing. If I go to Switzerland or just go play there. Like that would be absolutely. Yeah. Go play in the NL in Switzerland and be in your bed every single night,
Starting point is 01:06:26 never travel more than two hours and make huge cake. And it's Swiss francs. You'll be fine. But yeah, you're not living in Stock. You're not living in Bakersfield. You're not living out east. Bigghamton and all that kind of stuff. Oh, pingo.
Starting point is 01:06:38 Lof Panko. Now, you were on the circuit in the HL. What were some of like the worst HL towns that you've been? Peoria, Rockford. That was before the Western expansion and we didn't play the Eastern Conference.
Starting point is 01:06:53 Didn't get out there, but that's notoriously post-apocalyptic awful. But yeah, those are the worst. Oklahoma City actually had a sneaky okay part. But generally speaking, it's a dusty big city, but there's a cool little brick town.
Starting point is 01:07:07 But it's good and bad. Like Charlotte, Chicago, Toronto, Houston, Austin. Amazing. Colm Springs wasn't there yet. But the bad ones are just like, Hui. Yeah, like Peoria and Rockford.
Starting point is 01:07:20 It's fucked. Some of them were like the ones you don't know are actually fine. Like Grand Rapids is lovely. I enjoyed Cleveland. Hamilton. Cleveland Rocks. Let's go.
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Starting point is 01:08:06 More ties? I know we had a tie at 18 as well. Hansick at four. Who else at four, Jack? got another guy in there. Colin Potter. Change schools. Where's he cool? He's at Michigan State. The Michigan, Michigan State game is going to be unbelievable.
Starting point is 01:08:23 Hogwarts to Michigan State. That's right. Natural transition. Yes. The climate not as good. The hockey will be better. And apparently Michigan State was all over him coming to junior. They wanted them to wait a year.
Starting point is 01:08:35 He was like, come on in now. So his draft year, as you noted, was in college, not at the lower ranks. So he ends up going to Michigan State anyway. It just took two years to get there. He's coming off injury, big year for Potter. He plays well, probably signs. And he's playing on a good team. Like he's like Michigan State compared to Arizona State.
Starting point is 01:08:50 It's night and day. Yes. It's like an all-star team versus. Arizona lost like eight, nine guys this year through the portal. Yeah, that deal. So I think it makes a lot of sense for Potter. I'm excited to see what he can do. I hope he makes the World Junior team.
Starting point is 01:09:00 I think that would be awesome. Would be good. Winger Center, we'll see. You want to see him playing center at Michigan State or he's not going to be playing in the NHL. I'll say that. you've got some guys ahead of him like Caden Lindstrom I think is to be playing center there
Starting point is 01:09:13 I have not heard that guy's name I know fourth overall man If you talk about like you can't You can't bust on Carl's Like think about where Columbus would be If Lindstrom was what they thought he was going to be If they picked him four Imagine they take Demadov instead of
Starting point is 01:09:29 Lindstrom Like that could be a game chill is back Or is it like Because that was Well their back was the big issue But he's playing and it's I don't know There's lots of questions
Starting point is 01:09:39 about if it's going to work and it's not just the back. A lot of tools there. We'll see. You shall see. So those are your tied number four. The top three will be the top three. And as we talked about on Tuesday, non-flames writers
Starting point is 01:09:55 at a daily face-off. Stephen Ellis had the flame's entire prospect pool ranked third in the NHL. Oh, yeah, we're really pumped with tires here. Vader at them one. Here's the thing. Having a good prospect pool doesn't mean anything about the NHL team. But it's better to have a good one than a bad one. Especially the position the flames are in right now. You've got a stack
Starting point is 01:10:12 a scratch and win tickets. The bigger the stack, the better the chances are you are finding core pieces. So it doesn't mean you're going to be good in X number of years. It just means you've got a better chance of finding good players. That's, have as many good prospects as possible. Many will fail. Hopefully some become stars. I believe Chicago and San Jose were one and two on the list for a good reason. Yeah. Well, they've been picking high for a long time. Yeah. That would be the good reason. I'm guessing. I think the flames will be right there in two or three years in terms of their prospect. Well, they'll probably be right there with Chicago and San Jose in terms of the young talent.
Starting point is 01:10:43 Well, Chicago and San Jose are going to be graduating guys every year and the flames will probably be picking very high this year. So it wouldn't be crazy to see them one, two across most lists a year from now. We'll see. What happens if they win the lottery and they're looking at Land and DuPont? That's a hell of a good problem to have, Bobby. I'll tell you that. Another skilled right shot defenseman.
Starting point is 01:11:02 I think it'll be interesting to see how that all plays out. I don't. You just draft them. I was going to say, the gap's big enough. you take him and then you have the good problem of having too many good plays. That's what I find interesting. It's who do you move out after you take a guy like DuPont,
Starting point is 01:11:15 if it happens. It's like moving mooky bets to shortstop. These are good problems. Let's go to the number six, Jack, just because it feels on topic a little more. We've got a game to tell you about the Penticton rookie tournament's been dead for a couple of years. It seems to come and go.
Starting point is 01:11:30 We'll hopefully have that revived in the near future. It's always a fun event to go to. But the prospect game coming up is Monday, September 14th. proceeds, the Flames Foundation, just 10 bucks to get in. It's not going to be a lot of the prospect names we just saw if you're going to college, you're not at this. But there will be the Sunneevs and the
Starting point is 01:11:47 Sergeyev's and who else? They had Gridden in the release. Gridden, yeah, he's young enough. Like, Macy'll Phil. Phillips be there? Maybe. Will he be with Medicine Hat? Chase Harrington. I don't know if his plan is what his plans are though, because he was planning on going to college, I thought.
Starting point is 01:12:04 Phillips. This year? Yeah. But then Medicine hat got his rights and I think they signed him. So I think it's going to be medicine hat. He's in medicine hat. I know he's in medicine. I'm saying, did he sign an NHL contract? No. So he. Not yet. Interesting. The names that were mentioned in the press release are the names that you're going to count on seeing, which is Gridden, Sergeyev, Sunneyev, and others. Yeah. It's not the sexiest, but it is a prospect game. And it is on September 14th where we will have nothing to talk about in terms of the flames because the big boys will be probably not even fitness tested yet. Exhibition starts, what, 20-21st?
Starting point is 01:12:39 Somewhere around there. Only four games. Veteran players can only play two. It's in a short span. And then it's like 49th is the open. Yes. Yeah. So you're probably going to alternate games.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Don't see you guys go back to back or you just play your vets at home. I think they should pull Darrell Sutter and just have the NHL roster ready to go from day one. A's against the B's. Yeah. They might. We'll see. It's different. You're going to have to adjust.
Starting point is 01:13:01 You're not going to see the same idea in training camp because you don't have eight games or you can, oh, we'll give this kid a game and then send a bet. No, no, no, no, he's gone. We only have four. We can't be bleeping around. I wonder, so last year in the preseason, you had a guy like Rory Karen step up. He had a great preseason was fantastic. Are those stories going to happen now that there's only four games? Roy Cairns having a great preseason didn't know lots of jack shits. It doesn't mean like Roy Cairn specifically, but that type of player, like the guy who's like...
Starting point is 01:13:25 A better example would be like gridden. He kind of worked his way onto the roster. Or Hansig a couple years ago. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. But you're like, they'll be less likely. But again, we only get excited about that because there's actually no real
Starting point is 01:13:36 NHO talk about this. You're like they're going to put good on the team, then they're going to set him down a week, and sure enough, same with Hansa before, whatever. Devin Cooley's got some new gear, Rhett, you will not care, but it isn't him pushing a rabbit in a stroller, so here you are. I like the flames there.
Starting point is 01:13:54 That's nice. Right, you don't, you don't like Tito Cooley? I don't know what. You're not a Tito Cooley guy? You like Tito's Vodos. Jack, if you zoom in, there's actually, there's some detail on the flames there, which actually looks pretty cool. What kind of detail? You know how on like the, on the crest now? They got like the sewing along the actual fire part of it now.
Starting point is 01:14:12 Yeah, it's kind of a similar thing. I can't just zoom in. They do it. Jack can zoom in. Come on. Tilo Cootie. Cooley. That's his dog or his rabbit? That is the Devin Cooley's rabbit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Next. You just got executive producer right there. NHL news. Don't be surprised if we're talking a lot about expansion in the next year. because Bill Daly says he wants a team playing in three years. Houston or Austin. Weird to have two cities named with one ownership group and one amount of money that will be committed,
Starting point is 01:14:47 but this is how you play one market against the other. Where they end up will be interesting. Houston's a way bigger TV market. Austin does not have a pro team in the big four. Do you want the exclusivity in a growing market, or do you want the big TV audience? They want to have two more teams in this league in time for a new TV deal
Starting point is 01:15:04 when the US one expires when what five years? I think they don't care as long as they get the most money. They just want two and a half billion they don't have to share with the players. I agree, right?
Starting point is 01:15:13 They're probably happy in either. Yeah, it doesn't matter. And then you say, we'll go to the other city if you don't build us a rink with your money. You soak the taxpayers and then you get to spread the $2.5 billion
Starting point is 01:15:22 for all the owners and you don't have to share with the players. They'll do whatever you want. Interesting. Now, long term, what do you think would be the more successful franchise? What's city? I'd lean on.
Starting point is 01:15:34 Austin, because Houston's been there forever, and it hasn't happened. Yeah. And Austin doesn't have any pro sports. I mean, they have the MLS and they have Texas Longhorns. I think I had some F1. There's not big four. Yeah, it feels like the type of move the NHL has made. You know, they went to Columbus with no one had.
Starting point is 01:15:47 They went to Nashville and no one had. San Jose when no one had. They didn't go to the big crowded markets with other teams to compete against. If you're in Houston, you're now trying to sell sweets to people that probably already have suites to the Astros and the Texans and Rockets. Rockets. never mind Houston universe like there's
Starting point is 01:16:05 NHL is number four in most markets you have a chance to go be not number four in Austin in a growing city and sure in Houston you might get the biggest TV deal just because of the audience I think it's the six biggest TV market in in the United States but I think in Austin I think you'll get that kind of grassroots
Starting point is 01:16:23 movement where the entire city gets behind the team because it's all they really have they also have the stars farm team they love that team it's it's Houston does have a hockey history the WHA house played there. They had HL team forever until about 10 years ago.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Rich Preston. Rico, of course. How can you forget? But I would lean Austin. And the question is, like, you probably don't want 33. Like, we're literally going to be talking about 34. Yeah. Can't Arizona get their shit in order in time?
Starting point is 01:16:49 Can't have another one out west, could they? It's going to be Atlanta. It's going to be Atlanta. Well, they want it to be Atlanta for some reasons. I think they have two counties. They'll have going to build brand new arenas. So what you need is the equivalent in Scottsdale. And then then we have a debate.
Starting point is 01:17:02 And is that going to happen? But doesn't that screw up the divisions? You just slide someone over. I don't know. Whatever. Shmoo Chicago, who's, who cares? Just for example. Or Nashville.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Look at Nashville's in the West. Look how far east there. What the hell you're fighting for Scottsdale for? Screw Scottsdale. I think it's a great hockey market that said shitty owners and shitty buildings. Totally. And so if they get a great owner and a building in the right part of town, I think it'd be a hit. What the hell are you taught?
Starting point is 01:17:25 Really? You don't think so in Scottsdale that would work? There's so many people that move out from like out east, New York, Boston, in Chicago that are like big hockey fans that would support that team. No one wanted to try to glend base there. It doesn't have to be people from elsewhere. That's a hockey city that had the shittiest owner we've ever seen.
Starting point is 01:17:40 What are you talking about? In the last 30 years, how many have they had a hockey team? Who cares? They've had the worst owners. They played in a college drink. They played in a suburb where nobody who had money to go to hockey games live. They've only had the worst setups there.
Starting point is 01:17:56 I think it'd be a hit. I think it would be a hit. I think it would be a hit. I think so, too. I think there's the money there. I think there's a corporate support. So when it fails, it fails because.
Starting point is 01:18:04 Don't have the worst. You're in a professional sports. Alex Morello. Shitty rinks. Well, the rinkin. And like from. It's beautiful.
Starting point is 01:18:11 Just a wrong part of town. Yeah. From Scottsdale, it's literally a 45 to an hour drive to get out there. And you're going to do that, you know, 41 times a year. So again,
Starting point is 01:18:19 you're two idiots because you're dumb. So you're going to Atlanta instead. No, I'm saying that Atlanta is saying, yeah, we'll build you. Austin, Houston,
Starting point is 01:18:28 we'll build. Probably. And Scottsdale's saying, nothing i think the thunderbirds the dudes with all the money in that city are grinding to try to get caught up to it all i'm saying is that they had a franchise it wasn't that hard to just keep it there and they could not get anything past city council because of the shitty owner yes i all that is true but we have to understand how awful that team was for sale that team was that one that team was for sale for a lot professional sports more than once more than once
Starting point is 01:18:57 correct correct nobody stepped up and did it right yeah i i And again, if you have to fart out a $600 million ring, I get why no one bought it. But if you can somehow get someone else to pay for it, I think it's going back there. Atlanta's failed twice too, right? They should not expand there. It will happen, but I just,
Starting point is 01:19:14 they should not go there. How do you fail twice and get a team back again? Well, it's not a hockey market. Even if they're a really good team. So they love, you declare how that. Scott's sale a hockey market. Atlanta not? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:24 Because one's had a team most of my life and the other one has not. Like Atlanta is at a small window where and it was poorly supported. And look, it was an unmitigated disaster in Arizona, but they never had good teams and they had shitty, shitty owner that everyone hated and the rinks were never convenient. That's the one that doesn't get talked about enough is that they had terrible teams there forever. Jack, it's inconvenient, so I can't go.
Starting point is 01:19:47 No, but I would see this. Like if the flames played in the injury, I would go less. They would get less of my money. Totally. Yeah. And that's kind of what they were asking people. You're not a real fan. Sure.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I mean, I'll bet Jerry, she's almost for you. You're drunk. all the time. It's hard. Uber's, man. I can be driving out there. Keep moving. We'll see how that evolves. I don't love it going to 30.
Starting point is 01:20:10 Like, 32 is a lot. Oh, it's too much already. I think 30 was enough as it is. It's going to make it impossible to win the Stanley Cup. Talent dilution is going to happen. The game's not going to be quite as good. It's not going to give one away every other, right? They will.
Starting point is 01:20:22 You could go centuries without. Oh, yeah. As a single team, I see what you're saying. It's already hard enough. It's already hard enough. And you know what they're going to do now is. say 34, it's like, oh, less than a half team of the bills. Now we're going to get a play in round.
Starting point is 01:20:33 I like playing rounds. I like in the NBA, but the NHL's first round does not need fixing. It is unreal. Oh, it's the best. It's the best. We're playing around. So good. What if one team's limping in after a playing round? Oh, so what?
Starting point is 01:20:46 It's part of the playoffs. You're going to get through it. But I mean, if you're the NHL and you're the owners, like, obviously you want to expand. Think of the check Murray Edwards is going to get written if two expansion teams come in. The other wrinkled over $100 million U.S. It's going to be huge for him. And you're not sharing with Vegas and. Seattle. That was written into their expansion rules. They don't get future expansion
Starting point is 01:21:04 monies. So you're splitting by 30, which sounds like a little thing, but it's like, ooh. Well, when it's $5 billion total or $4 billion total, that's a lot of money. Absolutely. Keep moving. Other news around the NHL, Elliot Friedman said, I'm about to go offline, but before I do, here's a nugget. This is this morning. The much anticipated extension for Cal McCarran, Colorado was closing in. They famously announced the McKinnon extension at their golf tournament, which is probably what? Thanks for the most obvious bit of business. Yeah, I mean, we've been waiting for it.
Starting point is 01:21:38 And I think more than the McCarar conversation, because we knew it was going to happen, now we'll get clarity on the Quinn Hughes situation. Because if I was an agent, I would not let Quinn Hughes sign anything until McCar is signed. There's a chance that you're resetting the market, just like Leo Carlson did for Bedard. Unless it starts with a two, then you're absolutely signing it. Which Minnesota is not going to do unless they have to, and now they might have to. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be interesting how this one plays out. I mean, is it going to be a five-year deal like all these other great players have been signing?
Starting point is 01:22:05 It'll be shorter than that. Will it be eight? Will McCar take advantage of that loophole in the last season here? It's the last couple of weeks where you can sign an eight-year deal. Yeah. September 15th, that changes. You can only sign a seven-year deal with your own club after September 15th. And free agents leaving their current team can only sign for six.
Starting point is 01:22:21 Exactly, yeah. So it's going to be a really interesting contract. It's a damn shame, though. He's not coming home. Yes. It's a damn shame. It is, but it was clearly. Coming home in his prime.
Starting point is 01:22:30 We're going to have four of the top. We've got too many D, guys. No route for Kail. Sorry, Kail. We're all full at the mill here. Do I need to do the boomer come home, Kale? You can try, but it's, it's been,
Starting point is 01:22:42 it hasn't worked this far. Kale, come on. Kale, just come home. We're a rebuilding team. We got a new arena. Come home, okay? Let's do it. How was that?
Starting point is 01:22:52 Or just, you know, thanks more banners. You guys are down on Colorado the other day. Retro was. I think they're old. I think it's a young man's game and I think they're old. I wonder about their depth. So do you worry about Florida the same way?
Starting point is 01:23:07 Yeah. And you'd worry about Evanton clearly the same way? Edmonton's a different beast because they're a two-headed monster. I kind of think Colorado's too. Well, sure, okay. I think Florida's rested and so is Emmetton. I just think Colorado. I don't think, yeah, I think Colorado's old.
Starting point is 01:23:23 I think that they're... It's the cycle of life. Like you compete, you trade your first, you don't have... Cross makes, get old. What happens? You're right. It traded. I just don't think it's going to, I don't think it's coming home to Roos this year.
Starting point is 01:23:35 I'm not saying they're missing the playoffs. No, no. I just think, I don't. The way they played that second round, they looked beatable. Yeah, well, I made a significant injury. It wasn't their best than the other goal he was out of his mom. Yeah, but the reason they have all those old bastards as depth guys was supposed to be, to overcome some of this bullshit.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Totally. And they didn't at all. Yeah. They were non-existent. Yeah. like you can't argue they were better than that they should own the cup, but I would say over the 10 months they were the best team in hockey.
Starting point is 01:24:05 It's just, yeah, you had a bad two weeks. Yeah, but they went, they've gotten older. Yeah. Well, yeah, they signed Schwartz, Caddry's a year older, Brock Nelson's a year older. Gabe Landisoggs a year older. Old Nick? Is he still there?
Starting point is 01:24:18 Devon Taves is a little bit older. Like Brent Burns is a million years old. Benzie, Bernie. Yeah, I mean, I just worry about the dead. Like McKinnon, Nakesh, lecken in great players, but then after that, I feel like there's a pretty steep drop off.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Yeah, it's kind of like a lot of the top teams, to be honest. Florida is kind of the outlier there where they don't really have the mega superstars. But they're deep. But they're deep as hell. Most of these top end teams,
Starting point is 01:24:41 like Dallas is the same, although they're a bit younger. They're pretty deep too. Dallas is. I mean, they still don't have a second pair of right D. It's been two years. If you can't plug that hole.
Starting point is 01:24:49 But yeah, like Colorado and Edmonton, it's like you're paying two superstars. And Colorado's depth has been better, but it's also, older for sure. Newsham Hopkins and Hyman are old. Eccombe.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Ancient. Yeah. Yeah, I take Colorado there, but we'll see. We've got a whole year to watch it. Elsewhere, keep moving. Could Chuck Brothers have a podcast? It was really popular in Ottawa. Could I interrupt you for this? Yeah, fire. Jack, is it odd that he would take Colorado over Edmondson? No, no.
Starting point is 01:25:24 Not at all. I just watched the last year in the shot. There's no. No, buying bias. But Mike Babcock's going to put him over the top. He's a profession. Think about Babcock. I'll take it back. If Stan Bowman and Mike Babcock are in charge
Starting point is 01:25:38 or maybe the last year I have with the greatest floor watching our lives, I'm comfy. I think it's going to go great. I don't see any potential. What could go wrong? My mind's to step on here. Sorry, back to you.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Now back to our regularly scheduled programming. Chuck Brothers podcast. Boy, they love podcasting. They're so good at it. Teammates do. And this is classic Jack, because they're meatstick Americans. He loves this and he thinks they're being smart.
Starting point is 01:26:03 They're just being meat sticks. Have a listen. Booth in all of, like, every game you've played in Canada since? Not in Vancouver, but I was booed pretty good in Edmonton. And I was booed in Calgary. Seattle, nothing. Toronto, I got booed. Seattle, nothing.
Starting point is 01:26:21 Seattle. Seattle, Canada. The Jackson, yeah, yeah, he was just doing that to be funny. I'm like, look at him. He's not telling a joke right now. No. He doesn't have the capacity to sell that joke. Yes, he does. He thinks Seattle's in Canada, Jack.
Starting point is 01:26:34 No, he doesn't. Listen to it again, from the top. Bood in all of, like, every game you've played in Canada since. Not in Vancouver, but I was booed pretty good in Edmonton. And I was booed in Calgary. Toronto, I got booed. It's a nothing burger, Ryan. It's funny, because he doesn't know that Seattle's in the U.S.
Starting point is 01:26:56 Yes, he does. Then why would he say that? I think he's just thinking of places around Canada. It's Kachucky either way. God bless those boys. I'd take him on my team. Oilers news. It wouldn't be a Freddie Anderson news story
Starting point is 01:27:12 if he wasn't hurt. He's going to miss training camp. No. Freddie Anderson hurts? Who could have saw that coming? Well, he was overdue. He's never been hurt. Wow.
Starting point is 01:27:21 In the last, well, last time we checked him he was hurt. Never mind. Batesi Annmark also and Savior Matt Savoy dinged up as well. Alex Urgula is a depth piece. It's not nothing. I don't worry about those two stars there. I'll tell you that, guys.
Starting point is 01:27:37 I really think dry-settling McDavid are great. If I was the Oilers, I would let Frederick Anderson come to Edmonton in January. Yeah. And not risk. You just, I want two good months out of you. We'll get there.
Starting point is 01:27:52 You come in, stay healthy for two months. Do what you did with Carolina last year. That's all we need. They should probably budget him for 30 to 35 games no more. They'll probably run a three goalie rotation there this year. Yeah, I wonder what they'll do. Everyone will need waivers. Devin Levi's been a hot goalie prospect for so long that he's now a hot goalie project.
Starting point is 01:28:12 And he was fourth on Buffalo's depth chart last year, but has been a guy that everyone's liked for a long time, which just hasn't worked. You'll probably want to risk losing him. You've got Jari who's making five and a half so you could put him on waivers. He won't get clanned. but I think Ingram would be the best guy right now if Anderson's hurt and he doesn't have a job.
Starting point is 01:28:33 It's like well they finally addressed the no no they still haven't given Connor a good goal yet. Who's the best goalie they've had since McDavid's been there? Probably Talbot which is crazy. And it was really early for one year. Yeah. Or it's like peak Mike Smith which is insane. That's unbelievable. If I was if I was McDavid I would be furious about that rushing hissed to British. Gallup.
Starting point is 01:28:59 I was had a game in Edmonton where Bruce Gallup. Oh yeah, Miko's costing him still. It's a fellow, yeah. It's not Jack Campbell, but they're paying him this year too. I was at a game in Edmonton where Bruce Gallup was playing. I was sitting basically right in front of him. He led in like seven goals. And on the seventh goal, he just flung his stick in the air as high as he could, just skated to the corner. He's like, I'm done. I can't do this anymore. It was hilarious. Yeah, I'm just pulling myself in this time. That's what the decade of darkness will do to some
Starting point is 01:29:24 people. Yeah, well, all you got to do is win four out of seven lotteries and you can turn that thing around. Yeah, I'd get smarter. Just get the greatest hockey player of this generation. Maybe ever. Let's get to some baseball. Blue Jays in action tonight.
Starting point is 01:29:37 They close. Actually, it says four games set, I believe, against Kansas City Royals. Game three, they've won one each. Three nothing yesterday. The city had won nine in a row. Lucas. They were hot.
Starting point is 01:29:49 How is that? Bullpen day yesterday. They've been good on bullpen days. They have a winning record with a bullpen days. It's crazy. Bullpen has been, Bullpen Day has been their second best starter this year. It's been cease and then bullpen days.
Starting point is 01:29:58 The best two arms. Crazy. They're sliding back, not because they haven't played well, but because the guardians are absolutely flying. Cleveland's on a heater. They've won nine in a row. They're cooked, Jack.
Starting point is 01:30:09 They're three back, I believe. Here's your odds for tonight's game. First off. Starting pitchers tonight. They've got the, it sounds like a cheese from Italy you put on a pizza pasta. he's Aaron Getty I want to say
Starting point is 01:30:25 that's starting for the Jays tonight Maybe one star chini Is that what you're talking? Artini balls. Yeah, I love it. And basically a coin toss boys. Look at the money line there. Minus 106 for the Royals,
Starting point is 01:30:36 minus 104 for the Jays over under at eight and a half. We'll see, they got to get her going here. As long as Vladdy is playing like a below average player. Not below average. It's one of the worst of the qualifies for minimum of bats at the last.
Starting point is 01:30:50 Does he have a home run at home yet or no? No. It's been over. year. Wow. I mean, not including playoffs, but yes. So when's his last one? The World Series? Oh, he had a ton in the playoffs, but regular season, it's been over a year. This is a bigger drop-off than Huberto? For the power, sure, yeah. I mean, Cal Raleigh's doing the same thing, but he had three the other night. Cal Raleigh's. Yeah, 40 home runs off-paced.
Starting point is 01:31:10 It's crazy. Not good, but if he has a good month, no one will remember this shit. Boba-Shett did this three years ago. If you watch his abats right now, there's no indication that he's going to step up here. No. The at-bats are awful right now, There's no power. The swing looks off. Like it's... You can't catch up to the heater, which is weird.
Starting point is 01:31:27 It looks like he's laid on everything. You say, oh, fastball. See it, swing. Late. Why? I don't know. I used to murder those. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Oh. Three games back. Do they play any series against these teams? Yeah, they got the Guardians for one. I think they got the twins for another. A couple against the O's. One with Texas. One Detroit.
Starting point is 01:31:43 Yeah, Detroit's kind of falling out lately. They were in that wild card like two weeks ago. Cleveland's enrolling, man. And Texas, they don't have to get in the wild cars. Say it again? Cleveland Rocks again. Thank you, Red. You big, good.
Starting point is 01:31:57 What was the name of that show? Drew. The Drew Carey show. Not many shows set in Cleveland. It's definitely a place. Okay. White Sox are doing this. This is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:32:10 The Pope's American. You know that? You also know he's a big White Sox fan. That is a Papal hat. The White Sox. What? AI. This is the White Sox Twitter.
Starting point is 01:32:22 counts. Jack? Do you know who the Pope is? That guy right there. What does he do? Is he in the white or black? He's in the white. What does he do, Jack?
Starting point is 01:32:33 What's his job? To Pope. He's poping hard. He's got palping it up. Man, that guy can Pope. Poping and easy? Where is the, where is the question? Just part of the way.
Starting point is 01:32:46 I have no idea. Poor Jack on the spot. He's a big Chicago guy, though. That's pretty cool. I think, and the white socks could use a little bit of help from, from the man upstairs. They're at a plows spot. What?
Starting point is 01:32:57 What's leading the AL Central. But ever since they won the World Series in what, 05, that is, it's not been a very good thing. I mean, the L. Central's dog's breakfast, but they're leading it. They and the Cubs will probably playoff teams this year, which would be fun. Go to Chicago. Stampeders in action this weekend. It's the Super Saturday.
Starting point is 01:33:13 They're kicking off at 1 p.m. Family Day. Take your kids, Jack. I'm going. Bring Foot Daddy back. Are you going? I think so. Am I going to hook you up here? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Remind me before the end of the deal. Red, foot daddy said, if the riders make the Grey Cup, he's coming back. Great Cups in Calgary, you're the horse. Get her going, boys. Get into the dance, anything can happen. You know what they say about the CFL? Once you get to Labor Day. Labor Day.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Season starts after Labor Day. It's a hell of the preseason. I like all in June and July, though. It's nicer. Yeah, it really is. I'm going to Labor Day. I can't wait. But how many times in this city have you seen a dominant team cruise through Labor Day?
Starting point is 01:33:49 And then say, oh, yeah, there's an injury there and into the playoffs. What was the last time they won a playoff game? It's been a while now. I mean, this is the year to do it. They're hosting. They're hosting the Great Cup. This is the year to do it. Go home and sleep with your dogs.
Starting point is 01:34:03 We're done with you today, Bobby. That's the 1 p.m. kickoff. That's going to be happening in the northwest of the university. Down south, we got more action. Super Saturday. We're calling it SpongeBob Square Pants. Their game against Vancouver FC. They've had a good year, Vancouver FC.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Top four. Cabs are right there. A point back of the conference. top of the table. Top of the table. Tommy. 3 p.m. kickoff at Akko. Jack probably be too drunk for the double header. But again, I'm going to try and make it happen. If you left it half,
Starting point is 01:34:32 you'd be closer to home. Yeah, I got to leave it half. Especially if there's a blowout. Yeah, he gets stamps up by like 28. I'm just zip down. Stoney. Let's go. Now, Jack, how are you getting to McMahon? Because I feel like the last few times you went to McMahon, you ran to some Uber issues.
Starting point is 01:34:48 No, he does this every time. Oh, it's in surge. Sure. I'm going to take the train, I'll be late. I'm like, every goddamn, just take the train and show up early. That's because it was like stampede and they jacked the ubers up to like three X. He's only been to the stampede, stampede, the year before with the same thing. Yeah, it really came out of a blot. I think I'll take the train.
Starting point is 01:35:07 That's a good idea. Take the train. Train back south. Yeah. Let's get some dumb stuff. You like burgers? Bob's burgers. That's a show, isn't it? This guy loves his burgers.
Starting point is 01:35:20 Oh, I got a drawer. That's. It's that ketchup in the bag? Tattoos. Oh, my God. I fucking love ketchup. This guy's a show this on it. It's horrible.
Starting point is 01:35:34 This guy's account. Jack, why would you put that on the show? I said don't use it. Let's get some more sensible Pinder Report material. Jack, like the golf club people or whatever. They have a good commercial. What the hell were they thinking there? Okay, we're doing some excavating here.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Oh, we'll back on here. Yeah, that's. snake oh my god is that a 40 foot snake yes pass i don't know where that is but i don't need to go we're good here stay in today and stay god look at that how do those creatures exist what are they going to do with how they not i got one idea it's a sleet it starts of the saber and it ends that guy's life we don't need those guys rolling around the wilderness oh That's your Pinda Report for Village Honda.
Starting point is 01:36:26 What? You didn't like that? That's the kicker. Yeah, it's the snake. That's what we finish on. That's the. What do you want? What do you got for us, right?
Starting point is 01:36:33 I can't show it. It's a big snake, too. God. Jeez. You just loading up the anniversary gift pack or what? What? There's different levels of snake videos. Retz was a more appropriate kicker.
Starting point is 01:36:48 You're talking about the Calgary Zoo. You're at the Calgary Zoo the other day, checking out snakes, right? Snake. Didn't the bear get out the other day? Yeah, a grizzly bear on it. Oh, it's a bear kid now. Sooky. A grizzly bear, too.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Yes. What's terrifying bear on the planet? Maybe outside the polar bear. Polar bears look pretty, but they're terrified. But the grizzlies not one you want out. No, definitely not. Like, they'll take the penguins for a walk in the winter
Starting point is 01:37:14 and they cruise around and it's awesome. Let's get photos, bring your kids. The grizzly is not, like, the tiger and the grizzly would be by top two. You don't want them out of the cage. Oh, yeah. Maybe the hippo too. I don't want to mess with a hippo.
Starting point is 01:37:24 Yeah. Boom's got this theory he could out juke a hippo. No, he can't. Well, we know that. I'm young boom. I know. You're in his chair. You have to Belize you can out juke.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Okay. I guess so. You got good quick feet lateral movement? Not really. No. Absolutely not. Neither does he. That's weird.
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Starting point is 01:40:50 Less on snakes. No locally raised snakes. They catered our tailgate for the stamps game. It was unbelievable. Pulled pork, potato salad, pasta salad. Rhett brought one of his kids and had some idiot buddies with him. And he was just like, he dummies. Rareway here.
Starting point is 01:41:06 Left that foil up. Get in there. Boys were not shy. They just needed the green light and then they were crushed. Slum. Because what was it? Pulled pork and pulled beef. Oh, so good.
Starting point is 01:41:17 Oh, it's going to be Saturday, Greg. Tailgate, train, get early, Jack. That's your day. Go side to Greg. Leave the house, Jack. Don't bring up Sam Bennett. That's a saucepan. Jack's buddies were a riot that night at the Stamps game.
Starting point is 01:41:32 They're always a riot. Oh, my God. That was my first Jack's buddies. Yeah, idiot. buddies. It was something else. The one went to the other side of the stadium to, like, the very top corner and had like a thousand seats to himself in the corner of the building and tried to start off the
Starting point is 01:41:46 dudes with no shirts on section. It did not catch on my head phone He got there in like three minutes too He sprinted there They got up to two They didn't get the full section Yeah People like now we're just going to watch the football
Starting point is 01:42:00 And have a beer You could keep your top on if you want The singalongs were great The dancing All they give her Oh do they ever It's never boring The idiot buddies are elite
Starting point is 01:42:10 It's like you guaranteed a good time You might be hung over the next day But it's always a good time We gotta make t-shirts Or something like that Jack and his idiot buddies We should make idiot buddies and number them. Who's the captain?
Starting point is 01:42:21 Foss for sure. Foss to wear the C. Salt would have an alternate A for sure. So yeah, thing one thing too. You get the full roster out. Two of them came to Nashville. Yeah, which is awesome. That's insane.
Starting point is 01:42:37 Love that. Are we going back to Nashville? It's one of the options. We'll have more news when your time machine used. When happy pants is returns. When the storm clouds back, we'll get that story. He'll be through all the boat, whatever choices we have. I want to tell you, Temple Golden Lager is the non-alcoholic beer that actually tastes like beer.
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Starting point is 01:43:59 Just, don't worry about that too much. Well, just some bats. We're going to tell you about GMC's employee for your pricing. We're going to read some super chats. We're going to get the heck out of here. Does there any other flames things you wanted to hit? We talked next genie game. Fred office confidence ratings is just for Rhett.
Starting point is 01:44:15 And it's, we can talk about another day, potentially. I think so. Yeah, lots of days. We've really flames the hell out of this thing, but I'm sorry. You must be pissed right now. Did say he was bored, but now I'm bored again. It's different. I was getting bored than I wasn't bored.
Starting point is 01:44:30 I was getting paid to be bored. It's different than being at home. Let's go to our bets, our good friends, a bet, three, six, five. Couldn't do without you. Baseball fans, nothing better than getting a day at the ballpark. Oh, I had one last week, Bobby. Cubs, White Sox, and Wrigley.
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Starting point is 01:45:07 Alberta only must be 18 plus in Alberta. Please play responsibly. How was Wrigley? It's the best. I've been before, and it never will stop being the best. Was it afternoon or is a night game? It was a matinee against the socks,
Starting point is 01:45:19 which happens only once a year. Yeah. So tons of socks fans, boyfriend, cubby girlfriend, buddies, half cubs. Like it's, the chirping was elite. Nice.
Starting point is 01:45:29 No matter what happened, someone was cheering. And of course, it's a matinee at rigly. It's the best. Doesn't get any better than that. Unbelievable. All right,
Starting point is 01:45:36 we got lots here. We're going to start with the one at the bottom. We've got a Noah Cameron, Spencer Araggetti parlay Cameron to get four strikeouts to the Royals Arrogati to get three for the Jays and Brett Bateman, the new leadoff guy. Been great, getting on base all the time.
Starting point is 01:45:55 Two total bases, that's double two singles. Just doesn't include walks, know that. That parlay plus four 10. Retro, we also got the bills against the Steelers. Big day. Walk us through it. Sorry, Jackie. Nope, I do the same thing.
Starting point is 01:46:09 Bills will definitely win tonight. and the Blue Jays need to win tonight. So we're going to the parlay there. And they're both like, look at that. You're getting minus money. You parlay and boom, plus 22. Bada bang. Should we do a live stream tonight?
Starting point is 01:46:21 No. Once we can name five guys in the field. We'll start talking about that. We're up and running. Yep. 10 to 1. I don't mind that. No.
Starting point is 01:46:31 Are we like it the new coach? Are we still feeling it out? I don't. You got sources of Buffalo. It's their defense that's going to need to. It's Bruce Smith's back this year. is you come? No, I don't mind that. 20 to
Starting point is 01:46:46 220. Bill's futures bet. Jack said the Steelers are going 11 and 5. 12 and 5. 12 and 5. But then I had a dream the other day where they went 3 and 14. That's more than that sounds like. Can I take the middle ground? You can get your dream or your prediction. It's got it right.
Starting point is 01:47:04 It's got to go. Ray the middle. Yeah, probably. On the 8, 9, 7 and 10. 8.9 is the screen Pittsburgh Steelers to know this year. You can't draft quarterback is nothing high. enough and we're going to find another retread. Basically the flames of the 2000s. Yeah, pretty much. They're mucky middle. Yeah. It's gross. Mike Keenan.
Starting point is 01:47:19 No. Love that guy. Yeah, Rhett loves him. Great coach. Great talent evaluator on defense in particular. Drills were spectacular. Open your eyes. Geez, that really is really high end stuff. I think she would think of it. Give us one. It's a thinker. I need to demonstrate and the camera won't do it justice.
Starting point is 01:47:38 It's got a full on Rhett there, Jack. No, I need like. space. Over there. Let's zoom out the camera there, Jack. Bob, shut them. It's good to some super chats. We'll do that.
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Starting point is 01:48:04 A place to just read, play basketball buddies, whatever it is. Big fat guy checking it. Big fat guy. He's down a medicine hat. He's big. hats, guys, season ticket holder. Hey, Rhett, you come into training camp. November 6, Tigers against Everett,
Starting point is 01:48:17 Saturday, Tigers, Thunderbirds, Sunday, Arizona against the Seahawks. Are you in? That's a Rody. Oh, I see. At Everett, at Seattle, and then Seahawks Cardinals. I hate Seattle and don't care for the Cardinals, but the other games I'd take in. You're in for the others. Yeah, I might go down and check it out.
Starting point is 01:48:38 See if we can run into Brock. Your new best pal. Is did kid get a shot or is he still? Don't find out. I'll report back. Yeah, we need some reports back from you. That's absolutely pertinent here as we can get started. That'd be a fun road trip.
Starting point is 01:48:55 Seattle before it starts raining. Always a move. Seattle, when it's raining, never a move. When is that, though? It's still about then. Yeah, November, it's probably raining by then. I take it back. I thought this was preseason, but this is regular season for sure.
Starting point is 01:49:07 You're probably good halfway through November. beginning of November, I think you could be good. It feels like a faucet. At some point, it just gets turned on and it doesn't stop. Yeah. Until, you know, the next summer. So as long as it hasn't started. I lived in Vancouver for over 10 years.
Starting point is 01:49:22 So I feel like I'm an expert in this. I feel like you're good. We're being an attitude one year and there's an article in the paper. Maybe there's one that was pentictin, but somewhere in the paper, it was like, Vancouver hasn't seen the sun in 60 days. I'm like, what? If I ever got my sunglasses one day in Calgary, I'm like punching the steering wheel. 60 days without the sun.
Starting point is 01:49:39 You and boom. It's not that bad. It's not that good. You get an umbrella, you walk around. I don't have a bag. I don't wear a light jacket. All my shoes get wet. Go for a beautiful walk in the rainforest.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Come on. Okay. Next, thank you for the 20 bucks, big fat guy. Rets on the fence. I'll be down there. Working at 22, 20 bucks. Fellas, hope you had a great summer. You guys will find this funny.
Starting point is 01:49:59 I met a lovely lady the other day. We have a date this weekend. She knows her puck, but she is a die-hard oiler zoo. Yikes. wish we luck hashtag oilers he's a redwigs fan I mean
Starting point is 01:50:14 some people just getting fights to have the makeup did that one that got famous what's that the one that got famous yeah she went down to the bridge and did that that team's been in a rough spot since you put those away yeah it's been a curse
Starting point is 01:50:30 man bring them back bring them back maybe it's another goaltending get those back in action uh okay keep moving thank you workman Oh dear. 1399 coming in from Patchy's Frog. Jack, I know you won't read to help the kids,
Starting point is 01:50:45 but maybe your football draft. You auction off control your football draft. The highest bid gets the draft for you. I would start the bidding at $10. It'll start and end at $10 then. Sure. You're let's get run your team for $10. That's it?
Starting point is 01:50:58 That's all the league is. I mean, is it going to go any higher? Who else wants to pay for my team? Don't you want to be in the draft? I mean, it's not going to change the fact that I won't win anything. Here's the thing, Pat. Jack doesn't care about anyone but himself. That's not true.
Starting point is 01:51:11 I don't even read for the kids. I just don't like reading. What do we give you like Mad Magazine? You know what that is? No. Comics Club? Mad magazine? Aren't you talking about these guys?
Starting point is 01:51:21 It's like one page at a time. I don't know. Archie comics. I don't really like comics either. Oh, he hates it. Can't read it. Man magazine was awesome.
Starting point is 01:51:29 Sure, Patches. That's the worst shirt you could ever get. That's a hard note. Don't believe of patches. That's 1399. Thank you, sir. Next. That's all for now. That's it. That's all.
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Starting point is 01:52:29 Bobby, thanks for coming in and nerd out with us on some flame stuff. That's awesome. Plug your show and tell us where we can find more you work. Yeah. Listen, the Red Mounder. Rundown with me and my buddy John Eastope. Can we trust him?
Starting point is 01:52:39 I see him on the Twitters. You can trust him. He can trust him. He can trust him. He doesn't trust him. Yeah. No, you can trust him. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:46 He's a good Southern Alberta boy, Raymond guy. Great, good values. Basketball. Yep. Big basketball guy. So yeah, let's listen to the Red Mowardt run down and check me on on Twitter at Robert underscore Munich. Okay.
Starting point is 01:52:57 He's a chiefs fan, right? He is a chiefs fan. All right. There you go. Seahawks and Chiefs. I feel you guys don't like either of those. Get your new co-host. He can produce that show.
Starting point is 01:53:07 We got another super chat. Another super chat. Let's go. You send us to Calgary to five bucks from Coleman 1-21. Bold move recasting Boomer with a younger actor going into the new seasons. Try to freshen things up. Yeah. It's tough to find that level of positivity and rate of sunshine.
Starting point is 01:53:25 Yes. We did it today. So Brady needs sunglasses. Is this year four or five? This is your season five. We're starting a number. Damn. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:53:33 We started four seasons ago. on the night the NFL season open and how did the first show go real good awesome boomer was literally have anxiety and his heart rate would jump and blood pressure go through the roof just talking about it yeah that's how well don't worry we had a total ace producer lined up uh five bucks for the kids thanks for that coleman and uh yeah maybe some more bobby cameos here up the show that'd be great love you on afterburner too want to keep your grind in there let's get red on afterbramine right uh that'd be six yeah especially once he sees the new Daylight saving time change stuff.
Starting point is 01:54:07 Like, 9 o'clock starts new. See you, buddies. All right, that'll do it for the show today. Be sure to check in on the website for the rest of that top prospects list. We'll figure out what the heck we're doing next week. It's Tuesday, Thursday. Let's see how the reaching.
Starting point is 01:54:24 I think we have some new sponsors starting September 1, so we will need more than two shows. But it won't be full. Keep your phone on. Bob, keep your phone on. You and Gould are going to be reading the yellow pages. Next week's done, Farmer. Thanks for watching.
Starting point is 01:54:38 See you, buddies.

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