Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - FlamesNation Barn Burner: Calgary Flames Loss on the Island now onto New Jersey with Frank Seravalli

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

Live from the Tower Chrysler Studios in Marda Loop! FlamesNation Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener Tuesday November 8th, 2022- Recapping the 4-3 OT Loss to the Islanders- Gameday at... the New Jersey Devils - Frank Seravalli from @Daily Faceoff 💻 Website: https://flamesnation.ca🐦 Follow on twitter: @FlamesNation @BarnburnerFN @960boomer @PinderReport @warrener44📺 Subscribe on Youtube: @The Nation Network 💻 Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/OfficialFlam... Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:13 We're live, unless you're not listening live, in which case, this has been recorded earlier. But if you're watching right now, we're live. We're live or we're not. It's, uh, it's a big day. It's a big show. We're very excited to be back with you here on a Tuesday. It is colder than a witch's titty out there. Which is tit?
Starting point is 00:00:35 It's, uh, I had to, the Wolverine had to bring me to, uh, to our studios here today. The truck said, fuck you. Oh. That's what he said. I had the commands start. Usually the... And I always listen. It was through the garage doors.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I was like, fuck you, boo. I say, oh, okay, fair enough. Guess I'll get a ride. Did I hear that? Yeah. So you open the door. Yeah. Fuck you, boom.
Starting point is 00:01:00 It's weird. There's Ryan Pinder and there's the Rettster at his kitchen table. The Rettster. The, uh, it was weird when, people always ask so how did you get the name boomer and there's you know just whatever it's not a great story you told the other day it was the first time i've heard it and i've known you for 10 years so how did retster came come to be the retster well he just kind of called himself the retster during the show yesterday it caught on so retster it's good to have you back uh on the pro the redster yeah the retster is it
Starting point is 00:01:32 is it ice district or the rester did i say retster retester ret ski because i've quite often I said that's Bob Goodnow once. How do you like that? I said, Bob, I failed to see the comparison between Gretzky and Redski. I don't know what we're going to fight over this salary cap for. And he just kind of rolled his eyes. Well, he seems like you're drunk. It's 2 a.m. Go back to your room.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Seems like a ball of fun that guy. Bob Goodnow. He's like a toothache. It's like a rain delay, a human rain delay, that guy. Now, I got a, uh, people were very engaged. You were very energetic yesterday. You're going at Pinder. You got a lot of energy.
Starting point is 00:02:13 That's why he self-glossed himself. The rest, yeah. Yeah, that's how it came to be. So it was a very entertaining show yesterday. People are liking your goggles. I actually had somebody reach out and said, Rhett looks like Bono from some Saskatchewan U2 cover band. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:29 And you kind of do. You do. What would you lead with? Which U2 song would you open with, Red? I would not sing U2. I would sing a northern Pikes him. She ain't pretty.
Starting point is 00:02:41 She just looks that way. All right. Does the lead singer to the Northern Pikes wear goofy goggles? That's some Coke stage right there. That is a tough. That is a Coke stage. Flames last night,
Starting point is 00:02:57 on the road, but lost. I thought this was... It looked like they'd fixed all the problems. Someone told them it was the saddle loam in the third period and they completely screwed it. Yeah. They fall... Lots to like in there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:03:08 There was. Just not the end. Trouble being, lots to like, had a lead, lost it. Again. But it's now five in a row. If that's second loss or a loss mixed in a group of three or four where you've gotten some wins. I mean, it's glass half full, glass half empty. It's either a two-game point streak or they've lost five in a row, Dean.
Starting point is 00:03:27 I mean, you decide where the water level is in the glass. So what is it, right? Is it a losing streak or a point streak? They're the shits is what it is. Oh, boy. Less positive there. Back-to-back OT losses while short-handed in overtime. I was going to say back-to-back penalties in overtime.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I don't know that we've seen a lot of the three-on-three so much as a lot of the power play of the opponent. Yeah. And it could have been a power play for the flames in overtime, you know, if the refs did their job. Yeah. We'll talk about all that coming up. There's some evidence to, yeah, there's lots to get into. But it's another game day. So get your helmet on.
Starting point is 00:04:07 It's back-to-back. New Jersey Devils. You just saw them. You're going to see them again tonight. Five o'clock start Calgary. Is New Jersey going to wear their new jerseys? The new New Jersey Jersey? It just says Jersey. Yeah, I don't. I don't know. It says Jersey. It's for New Jersey. Not sure what they're going to do today. We'll have our Betway picks coming up a little bit later. The Pinder Report. You see there, we are in the Tower Studios, Tower Chrysor Studios. This week, I wanted to give them some love. They are very, you know what? They got, they got big hearts. Kind of like Rhett. His is like a swollen baboon heart.
Starting point is 00:04:37 birth defect. Their heart is in the right place. All this week, from the 7th to the 12th, Remembrance Day coming up, they've got an old war Jeep in the showroom. No way. And they are taking 100 bucks from every car deal between the 7th and the 12th
Starting point is 00:04:54 and donating money to the Veterans Food Bank. I love it. There you go. Amazing. And I want to check out that Jeep. That sounds cool. Yeah. Sounds like maybe you should be down there.
Starting point is 00:05:04 I think we might be down there today, not to, you know, blow up or spot. contributing. Well, that in my truck's dead and I need a new truck battery or something so I could swing by. Or a new truck if you're there. Or a new truck. It's a new truck. Donate the hundred bucks and quit being a cheap prick.
Starting point is 00:05:20 That's right. Fair enough. Cheap prick. Speaking of... Up to you. Speaking of cheap pricks are NHL insider. Frank Serra Valley who joins us from... Did he cancel his season tickets already? What's the story? You know what? Cheap prick. He's not nice. I am a lot of things. I am overweight. I am an asshole and I am a prick, but I am definitely not a cheap prick.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Yes, I love it. Yeah, it's a fancy prick. Yeah, I can, I'm good with all of that, Frank. That's all very good to hear. I just wondered if maybe funds are a little low after shelling out for Philly season tickets. Never mind all the playoff beer, World Series pricing. Oh, that's money well spent. That is, that's good money.
Starting point is 00:06:02 Spend it all. Yeah, that was awesome money. It was so worth it when I was watching Game 6 and they lost and I look over. over on the couch and my eight year old is crying. I was like, yes, welcome to Philadelphia, kid. This is what it's going to be like. You know, I saw the one message you kind of put out on social media. I think your kid was asleep, had the Philly fanatic.
Starting point is 00:06:21 It's like, that's a fan for life. He's in. Six weeks, eight week kind of a kind of a time frame and that kid's life is shaped forevermore. Unfortunately for him, yes, that is the case. Come on. You got to love you. You got to love your team. Look at, look at, look at.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Dummy sitting in Buffalo. He's a big Bill's fan. There hasn't been a whole lot of cheer in there. I don't like my team right now, Dean. There's BS go to stupid New York, lose to the jets with a terrible, no running back, all beat up. And now we got Allen out. Things are not good here in Buffalo. The weather's fine.
Starting point is 00:06:58 But other than that, it's the shits. Well, I was going to say, well, I just wanted to take this opportunity to point out that the Buffalo Bill's losing means that the Philadelphia Eagles are now the Super Bowl favorites. Interestingly, since I noted that Philadelphia maybe would be a better playoff team, uh, Rhett has lost his mind and that's really been fantastic on the show, but that also there's been maybe some warts in the old Bill's game. It's just a speed bump though, just the speed. Oh, right.
Starting point is 00:07:28 Do you guys have a, do you guys also have a tree in your kitchen, a fern? Do you have something? Do you have plants in your kitchen? I have one large plant. My wife's Italian, Frank. Don't make fun of the Italians. I don't think you will. Why would I make fun of the Italians?
Starting point is 00:07:45 I am one. He was there all summer. He's friends with the Italians. It might be a good time to pivot. Coming into the show, Rhett had an idea for a segment. And I know this is your segment, Frank, but you're here. So this is people who can go fuck their hat with Rhett Warner.
Starting point is 00:08:03 Who's on this week? Mitchell Miller. Is he on the list? No. was this was red it was very it was very personal for red so who was on your on your list you forget already are you asking i'm asking you i said frank's here it's his segment reading up his n-hs jackson can lamar jackson and take his hat and know what to do with it right he's terrible he's terrible they won what do you mean why you pick him in your fantasy draft because he's supposed to get you 25 a game he's getting
Starting point is 00:08:37 you 16. I had 60 points this week. He couldn't get me 20 to get me to 63. Couldn't get me to 63 points. Done with that guy. Imagine if Rhett was still playing and guys are like, hey, Warner, you kill him a fantasy team. Yeah, he'd lose his mind. I love this. My dad, my father lost his fantasy hockey pool because he didn't draft his son. That's what kind of puts he. Who did he take? Wade B. Lack? What? What were the options there? He took, he took a flyer. He took a John LeClair and LeClair was out all year with the bad back. Well, retro came through with 19.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's quite a plot. You're right. Your dad's an idiot for taking John Leclair over Rhett Warner in a hockey pool. During the Legion of Doom years. What a dope. Weird. Borderline Hall of Famer. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Not a big deal. So what year would that have been? He's a three on, he's a three on three legend apparently. Big John Lecleras in Vegas promoting the three-on-three league. Oh, is he? Interesting. So truly, what year would that have been? Because the reason I ask is how many years has your dad been hearing about this story?
Starting point is 00:09:52 Like mid-90s? Two decades. If your kid played in the NHL, would you have any? Like, I draft all Buffalo Bills because I'm a Bills fan. It's up to Allen somehow. In baseball, he takes all Phillies. You got your own son playing in the bloody NHL. And you don't take them?
Starting point is 00:10:09 Like, come on. Well, maybe somebody jumped up ahead of them and took you early just so he could stick it to. I was available. I was available the whole year. Trying to see what year he didn't play. Maybe he just knew. Maybe he had some inside Intel. Maybe he just knew.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Maybe he saw the offseason training. Yeah, I could have been it too. Well, we can get into some, we can get into some hockey chatter here. Now, Ret, now yesterday on the show, I said if you could, maybe you heard it in Philly. There was a crash boom, bang, pow, zowie kind of thing as the wheels are falling off the Jonathan Hubertoe bandwagon on this show. Rhett is very skeptical. Ryan's like, well, how much did we actually watch him play in Florida? I'm not saying.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I'm not saying. There's some, you know, there's some, you know, so it's not a quite, it's not a, it's not a, It's been a slow start to be sure. Yeah. Now the question is, Frank, is this a bad 11 game segment? Or are there systemic issues at play here, be it coach system, health, mindset, whatever? Well, I think there's a lot at play. I think the team in general just hasn't been very good the last handful of games.
Starting point is 00:11:29 But, man, 11 games? That's all it took for the wheels to fall off. Like that's where you guys draw the line on an eight year, $84 million deal. that has not even kicked in yet. Nine years left on it, too. The deal didn't even start yet. Well, what's your, you can't, the bandwagon. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 So I've been saying this, Frank. He hasn't even been installed yet. He's, he's doing fine. He's living up to that contract because it's the last year of a $5.9 million deal. Yeah, he looks like a second line wear in a slow slump. No, I think. Glass half full. I love to see it.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I think he's going to be fine, but I just hear a lot of the concern and like, what's going on here? And like, I just got this new tenders. what the hell's happening out there? And he's been squeezing it, trying to make pretty plays. I thought his first period last night was phenomenal. He plays a big role on both goals, one of his better games in a while. And someone had tweeted it out. I've got it in the Pinder Report later.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I think it was Costello from the hockey news saying, last year didn't get off to a super hot start. He was under a point per game his first 14 games and then went on a heater. I don't know that we're looking at a 115 point season, but it better be better than the 50-ish point season he's on pace for right now. And I pretty sure it obviously will be. Rett's worried, though. Look, I don't have any doubt that he's going to bounce back.
Starting point is 00:12:46 I think part of it just is adjustment, right? You spend one, the whole chunk of your career in one market. And then you come to a totally different, in this case, country, different team, different teammates and certainly different coach. I don't think that's helped. Like, I honestly believe that, you know, you look at the confidence factor that exists with, a player needing to have success.
Starting point is 00:13:10 And it's a totally different game now. And Rhett would be able to speak to this better than me. But that was sort of the norm, you know, 15, 20 years ago. You sort of needle or poke a player. The whole like, I can't believe this wasn't talked about more. And maybe it wasn't. I just missed it. But the whole like Jonathan Hubertoe is where was he?
Starting point is 00:13:29 He's taking a shit. Like I can tell you for fact that did not go over well. Because, and yes, that is in addition to the swear jar. Yeah, that's good. I mean, why would you do that? Like, why would you say that? And then it was sort of, he was very complimentary to that point. And then you could see as sort of, you know, the frustration was growing in the fan base. You could see the coach start to like peck away at it. He's like chipping away at it publicly. And, you know, he's at the same time, he's changing lines around. And he started with Lindholm, then goes to Cadre. And it's like, well, where does he fit best? Does any of that really? I know he's back. I know he's back. with Lindholm, but does any of that really help the player get adjusted? I think it's a great point on the, you reference, he tested something out, was on the bench, missed a few shifts, I believe was that the Evanston game? Either way, it was the post game quote you're referencing.
Starting point is 00:14:23 It was on the trainer's table. Yeah, and here's the thing. When Sutter says that, everyone chuckles and no one follows up. Yeah, he left the bench for a while. He was asked about a post game. Huberto left in the first period, what was going on. He said, I think he didn't take shit. which is total nonsense, but for Sutter, he's like, okay, well, no one's going to follow up, and no one did.
Starting point is 00:14:43 And so it's a win for him. But to your point, that that's a shot at the player. That's not acknowledging that he's playing through being less than 100%. It's a shot at the player. It's not only that, but it's embarrassing. Put yourself in Jonathan Huberto's shoes and your parents call you after the game and I'm like, did you take a shit in the middle of the game? Like, what? This show's on fire.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I love this show. It's funny to think about. But like that that's actually probably what happened. Then your girlfriend's like, did you shit yourself during the game? Like, wait, this is not, that's not the way it should be. And like, I know that it was said in jest and it was Darrell trying to be funny and whatever else. And dodge questions. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:24 But like, I just, I don't know that that helps anyone. And then, you know, then I said, as I said, you have the line changes. You have. Then he's sort of saying, oh, you know, Jonathan Euberdo needs to be faster. And I'm saying, well, like, what are the expectations for Jonathan Huberto? Because if you've watched him closely at any point, he's never really been fleet of foot. That's not his game. Like he's not going to, you know, he's not going to blow by you.
Starting point is 00:15:49 That's not what Jonathan Huberto does. So are the, have the proper expectations been set for his play before you go any further? Well, and then today, this just coming out, West Gilbertson tweeted that earlier today, he said all this talk about depth that we've got is total horseshit. Like, look at us now. we're playing our eighth and ninth defenseman or whatever. And there was no push in camp for taking jobs, despite whatever the conversations. We're like, that kind of feels like a shot of the GM.
Starting point is 00:16:13 And it's like, are you not going to acknowledge that Tanniv, Stone, and Shillington are gone? You're going to hang it on D. Simone, not even Nick Maloche can come up because he makes too much money. Like, are you really going to say there's no depth? Come on now. Like, it's just, Darrell has to be the big swinging dick. Like, who's he going to answer to? I'm sorry. Daryl's top of the pile.
Starting point is 00:16:33 They don't have a captain. and like, do you think the GM likes that comment? I don't. Probably not. And I can tell you that Darrell Sutter already got taken care of. He got the extension. He's got the power. And it feels like he's flexing those muscles a bit.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Do you think because it would... I don't think it's, it's not about Darrell flexing his muscles. And I agree with everything you guys were saying. Darrell wants to win more than more than most people do. and it's what's driven him his whole life to the point of being too hard on people. Yeah, and taking the wrong direction sometimes, right? Yeah, I don't think he's trying to screw this team up. He's trying to get them to win, but God, it's hard, okay?
Starting point is 00:17:16 He's desperate to get this team back to where it was last year. He had it going well. He had guys playing the way he needs or wants. I don't think it's, yeah, I don't think he's, it's Darrell being too wound up. and it's not that it's never been seen before. And we talked about it a little bit yesterday. Darrell could almost use some of the boys.
Starting point is 00:17:40 And I don't know, maybe they've been in there. But you need a group of guys that can go into the room and say, will you calm down, please? Like, we've got this. We realize it's a season. We want to win as much as you. That's where Darrell gets confused. Sometimes he wants to push the button so badly.
Starting point is 00:17:58 He forgets that, oh, maybe other people do want to win. and they might go about it a little differently. So, Brett, who's going to do that? Yeah. You said, asked it yesterday. There's no reason why Luch, DeFoli, Lewis, it's those guys. I mean, Backlin's not, I don't think, I don't know. I was around when Michael Backlin was drafted.
Starting point is 00:18:17 I know him. I don't know that he's ever been the guy that is going to the coach's room and question or ask him to push paws. But Luchich certainly could. And Trevor Lewis certainly should have been through these rigorous. before especially with darrell same thing with to folly i mean you don't need the whole room this isn't what is it rudy where they put the jerseys on the desk like it it's it's not that big a deal and if he wants to flip out and say no i'm going to do it my way well there's nothing you can do about it
Starting point is 00:18:47 yeah he's he's the top of the pile but he's pretty receptive to that stuff i know from experience I was going to as you told that story and mentioned it it reminded me of the LA Kings and them locking Sutter out of their locker room after a game I heard that with Hartley in Colorado you just need to yeah and no it's funny like it's it's it's not specific to one coach or another guys have to take it's easy the coach needs to be the general and okay we're going to set up our but the players are in the room have to run the players in the room and have to make the demands. The coach, the once a month can come in and kick a garbage can and get some emotion out of you. But if you're relying on the coach to come in on a game to game basis and get you motivated to play, you're screwed. And that's the issue I have with this squad right now is either they're scared because Darrell's got him on edge and maybe over the edge. So they're scared to screw up or they're not motivated because there's been it's 11 games in and there's been
Starting point is 00:19:53 four or five that are flat games right and to me edmonton twice already those are easy to get up for games there's a home opener where all these new guys that's an easy one so half of the games that aren't aren't easy to get up for they've been they've been flat they've been slow i wouldn't say last night they were slow but they sure fell apart it wasn't hard to dismantle them once once the islanders started to push and skate. It was a one-way street. I agree with Pinder. The defense is terrible.
Starting point is 00:20:27 But who put those two bloody defensemen out after the Islander's score two goals? Shift after. Wait. How did that work? They scored 59 seconds later and it was Disimon that coughed them. Yes. Yes. That's what I meant.
Starting point is 00:20:39 That's what I mean. You've got two kids out there after you get to one goal with less than 10 to go. Sorry, you've been terrible. Mackie's been brutal. Disimon's new. sit them on the bench. And then he's more on about depth today. It's like, you put them on the ice.
Starting point is 00:20:58 You're on a four game losing streak. The Islanders have been all over you and you're going to play your two rookie defensemen that haven't looked good at all. Who are eighth and tenth on the depth chart by my measure. It's weird. No, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:21:15 It's a rare situation because I feel like right now where the flames are at, this is, Darrell's this is a no panic zone for Darrell. We play 82 games. Just settled. There's no need to panic.
Starting point is 00:21:28 He's already done. His actions are saying back. The top three lines have been shuffled and then put back together. We've seen it's just very uncharacteristic. And maybe it's because he knows how tight and how hard it is to get in and you can't be giving away games. Or this is a small window. This just everyone's still in the prime. It doesn't seem.
Starting point is 00:21:47 It's not. Oh, I see. I'm just saying it. It feels. I thought you were, I agree with you. But and the other thing that Darrell used to be great at was what? When the team lost. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Stay away. When they're hard on when they're winning. Lighten it when they're losing. It feels like it's full gas pedal right now. I think I think it's full gas pedal. I think he's pissed off at what happened in the offseason. And I think he's trying to make a statement with this team. And, you know, he won the Jack Adams.
Starting point is 00:22:18 I don't know all of it. I thought after went in two cups that this would have kind of fell to the wayside a little bit. This over, I don't even know what word, the extra push, the full throttle kind of thing all the time. I thought maybe he would have learned that, I got to rain it in here the odd time. To me, from day one, he's looked, he's had that intensity look where it's like, I am going to push and push and push and see how these guys aren't. aren't going to get an inch. And I don't think it's working. Can't do it for 82.
Starting point is 00:22:53 So let me put a big bow on this. Rhett, are you saying that Darrell can fuck his hat? It's a very good question, Frank. There's the follow up we need. And who was taking a shit if it wasn't Jonathan Huberto? And if it was Huberto's family calling Jonathan to ask, would it be in French? Alet tu al-a-a-pupu? Like, what would that sound like?
Starting point is 00:23:17 I don't know how I don't speak French. So I don't know how that goes. Sintillating stuff, Frank. Excellent. I know you're very busy. Is there anything else you wanted to talk about today other than shits? No, I definitely don't want to talk about that. And I definitely don't want to talk about this next subject
Starting point is 00:23:34 because I am off to vote in the election today. Oh, wow. There you go. That's a good American. I got a this or that for you. If you got a ride or die with a Canadian team with off to a tough start, is it Ottawa or Vancouver from this point? They play tonight.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Oh, God. It's Ottawa. Really? Ryan Reynolds fan boy. Yeah, Vancouver, there's something, there's something rotten there. Well, Pierre Dorian talked about himself in the third person and didn't give the vote of confidence, so maybe they're okay. Good luck with your...
Starting point is 00:24:08 That was pretty awesome, by the way. It would be. Pierre is a very loyal person. Yeah. You're like, is there another, P. Oh, you're talking about yourself. Okay. Be good, buddy.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Good to talk to you as always. Thanks. Thanks, guys. Have a good one. There's Frank Zervale or NHL Insider. And see, Retro, I'm interested, and I find a curious that you're seeing what we're saying. We're fans. We're media.
Starting point is 00:24:33 We sit here and we overreacted. Did you see this? And usually someone who's played and has your kind of experience, you'd be like, settle down. Listen, this is part of the journey. This is all part of it. But that, were they 10, 11 games in? And you're seeing the same type of thing. But that's what.
Starting point is 00:24:50 That's what stood out to me, boom. I'm pointing. That's how emotional I am. Too much caffeine. What stood out to me was when he switched the lines. Yeah. We talked about it on this show and we said, I was like, there's no, what are you talking about switch?
Starting point is 00:25:04 That was my, it's not a big deal. What are we worried about? They gave up, they lost to the oilers in a tight game where they were winning and they were playing five. And a fluky thing happens. Yeah. You changed the lines? What do you?
Starting point is 00:25:17 What? I was floored. by that. And that to me spoke volumes. Yeah. And you know what? You're hunting for the word. It feels like Daryl's been oversteering right out of the gate. Like, yeah. And from the time he came back, it felt like it was kind of, and when you're winning, you have a season like you do last year where the wins are, it's kind of jolly Daryl having, oh, there was ducks in my backyard and a heck of a good day. And it's not, there's none of that. And maybe that comes with a few victories and it all starts to even itself out.
Starting point is 00:25:52 Because let's talk a bit about last night's game. Yeah, I was just going to say, man, it was so close to being a great night for the flames in a lot of ways. They had a great first period. They had a decent second period. They were out shooting. It was almost three to one there at one point. It was two to one.
Starting point is 00:26:04 They had a one-nothing lead before the Islanders got a shot on goal. A lot of chances to go up four-one in this hockey game. They did. And even beyond, you had chances to win it in overtime too. I'll talk about the penalty that came up. But that was what you expected. Now, how much of it was how good the flames were and how poor the Islanders were. I think we saw by the third period the Islanders had more to give,
Starting point is 00:26:26 and maybe you just naturally sit back on that lead. But you take what you're given. The flames were ready to go. And we've been bitching. Where does it start on time? Get some saves, all of that sort of thing, although the first shot went in again. But they were full marks through 40 minutes. Yeah, Eberdow's best game in a while, if not of the year, in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:26:44 At least the first half. I mean, I didn't love the cadre line, but yeah. Otherwise really good. Backland scores twice after being benched. Milan's engaged. You just hope when you have a segment where you dominate as much as they did,
Starting point is 00:27:01 try to build a lead that's a little more insurmountable than one goal. Well, and they have six losses. They've had leads in five of them. Yeah. So those are winnow, should be winnable games when you have a lead and some of it's maybe cherry picking
Starting point is 00:27:14 because it's early, but still you, you are not blown right out of the building. They've been blown out of the building. Building one. It's Buffalo. That's it, right? Yeah. And all of a sudden, these third period leads have coughed up.
Starting point is 00:27:24 Seattle, Edmonton. You know, Jersey's the opposite. So did you see enough different last night in that game, Retro, to give you reason to believe that this is now coming around? You saw enough to think that, oh, they did need to get out of Calgary. And it did look good. The problem being, now you've put huge pressure on yourself again. Now you're back to back, which maybe isn't the end of the world, but they're not used to travel.
Starting point is 00:27:52 So it's hard to read what they're going to respond. Well, and the devils are good and have been sitting to Dean's point yesterday. Yeah. Yeah, the devils are good. They had to go all the way out to the East Coast. There's a time change. I mean, again, you can come up with all kinds of reasons. You hope they come out with a better or the same kind of start as last night.
Starting point is 00:28:12 But I don't know what to think. I don't know what to think because they, they were fine. They were looking good. And I was like, well, that's impressive. That's, that's kind of, I'm glad to see it. That's the, yeah, that's, and then, whoa. And people are like, oh, the devils are the Islanders, they dominated the third. And it was like, there were spells where the Islanders dominated.
Starting point is 00:28:33 But the first five minutes weren't that. They started on the power play. I mean, the flames took a while to get a shot, but they had zone time and stuff. It was really once you got into that middle section, it wasn't the whole period. It wasn't the first period the devil's had, that's for sure. Coleman had a great chance early in the third. Yep. And then like you said, Rhett, they scored.
Starting point is 00:28:52 The building came alive and then they scored again. Yeah. And you called the time out after the second goal when maybe if you use that time out earlier, you don't have to put that third pair out again for the rest of the game. I don't know. I don't think that you're not going to call the time out. No, you're not. I mean, I'm just.
Starting point is 00:29:10 But you certainly don't follow it up with two. I mean, sorry. That's ignorant of me to say. but those guys you want to take that back they had no there was take it back yeah i take it back but there is no reason and i don't know who made the call but it was the wrong decision there was no reason after a goal now it was 59 seconds maybe it's the second shift after a goal but either way it's like it doesn't matter it doesn't matter you don't play the rest of the night you're down you've lost four in a row you're there's eight or nine minutes it's under ten it's under half a period left in the
Starting point is 00:29:44 game you've got a one goal lead you're not putting them on the ice At all. At all zero. He benched three guys Saturday in the third period. And even if it's not a benching, it's just taking these kids with no NHL experience. And you desperately need to win. Saturday they lose Stone and Mackey was awful.
Starting point is 00:30:01 I mean, they basically rolled 40 most of that night. It's not unheard of. One thing we've not talked about is you. Me. And the hand that you had in last night's game. I was watched the first half live, went to curling. didn't get shut out but lost soundly and then watch the rest? What did I do?
Starting point is 00:30:20 You have a, you have, and I get dinged with it all the time, you have jinksy pants. See, I thought you had the jingsy pants last night. That's what I'm saying. Who the hell brings up a third pairing defenseman on the opposition team? I was just going through the roster of the Islanders. You brought up the roster. I'm like, oh, there's some players. And then you decided to take a swing at a guy.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And it came back and bit you. I feel like we need a tail of the tape. I don't really know what you're turning. Yesterday's show. Full-on jinxy pants from Pinder. Full on. And I don't know how to feel about Noah Dobson. He wasn't for Flame,
Starting point is 00:30:52 but it was the pick they traded to get Hamannick. So if we stick to our old Flame score against the Flames rule, I feel like Dobson's gray area. I'm not playing the anytime bet. And Sebastian Ajo, in fairness, star. Just not this one. And just misplaced here as a defenseman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 The one you know is in Carolina. So that's coming across the line together. Bainly the drop. Barzell takes a look to the outside. Look at the path. They score! Sebastian Aho jumped up at Farsel Fides him, and the Islanders tie in quickly.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Barzell on the right side. Wines up and waits. Donson shoots scores. The Islanders come all the way. So I'll take credit for Dobson, but Aho's all on you. I didn't say anything negative about him. I pointed out the good one that the foreword is in Carolina. Guys want to talk your tape.
Starting point is 00:31:49 You can make anything. This is something. We can all learn from this. Let's learn from this and let's move past it. Let's be better today and tomorrow and the next day. So we're not going to mention any of the. We don't say, I don't know who they play tonight. I think the flames are playing tonight.
Starting point is 00:32:03 I don't know who they play or who plays for the next. There's definitely no former flames. Playoff hockey, Dean. Playoff hockey. It doesn't matter what the other team is doing. It's about us. Every Sunday in November, South Street Burger, New York fries hosting family skates at Optimist Park.
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Starting point is 00:32:47 That was really jinxy. Was it? I don't remember talking about any. else from the islanders. I was probably the only name you mentioned. And you tried to pin that on me. Asshole. Well, the guy that you brought up got the winner.
Starting point is 00:33:06 Kind of a former flame. Kind of a former flame. Would you rather have him or Hamanick? I'm trying to remember how that one went. I don't know. I think you know. We'll move along. Devils have won six in a row.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Yeah. Nine and one in their last ten games. You brought you asked Frank about. Leather division. Who, you know, Vancouver, Ottawa. Has New Jersey, have they kind of, do they look like they're kind of now out of that bottom five doldrums? Oh, God, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:34 I mean, I thought they were a pretty good team last year, but they just had to use their fifth and six goalies. So it was like, Blackwood, gone. Was it Bernier, gone? Schmid, Nico Dawes, John Gillies. And then old breakdancing, bad goalie equipment that ended up, Tukarski. He was there too, I think. Like, what? Or Wedgwood, maybe?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Like, you're talking seven, eight goalies? I don't care who you are. You're missing the playoffs if you're down to goalies, six, seven, and eight. One other thing, and you mentioned it earlier, and now the penalty in overtime to Rasmus Anderson, you go back to Saturday, Lindholm gets that interference.
Starting point is 00:34:13 Was it interference? Whatever they called it. They called it interference. I mean, it's an idiotic call because the other team maintains possession, and both players are like- bumped into each other. Anyway, it puts the devils on the, power play in overtime. Four on three is a killer. I wonder how what percentage of teams kill off
Starting point is 00:34:31 a full four on three. If the if the average conversions like excuse me like 20% on a five on four, I feel like it's got to be 35% or more on a four on three. There's just way more ice and shooting lanes are open. So didn't I think it's consensus among flames observers. Didn't like that penalty to Lindholm. Daryl talked about it afterwards. He said it's not a penalty. in regulation. How is it in overtime? Now, last night, Anderson kind of piles the Islander into his own net. It's a penalty. It's a penalty that maybe you don't call and look, but it was so, I mean, it was just right there for everyone to see. How much is this Pellick weigh? 130 pounds, or is he helping that? Like, it's a spot where if the refs don't want to
Starting point is 00:35:19 interfere the game, they could pull them both off. But I will say this, if you only watch that clip, that's a penalty. The problem was, is they called fuck all all game, including a blatant hit on the goalie that, you know, watch his knee bend and his head hit the ice. And if you're not going to call that, don't give me
Starting point is 00:35:38 this horseshit here. All you want is consistency. Like, Rhett, tight, loose, just keep the standard. Is that not all you want as a player? The standard was horseshit last night. I think the thing that got Anderson was the whistle had went.
Starting point is 00:35:54 Yeah. Right. And the play had died and it kind of, like you said, it was front and center. So I think the ref felt like he had to. If the Islanders have possession and are maybe turning it up the other way, you maybe let the play continue, right? But it was dead. And again, that's a penalty.
Starting point is 00:36:11 But where was all the other things at that threshold? Well, and I wanted to ask you about that because you go back to regulation, dying, I guess what, the last minute, Casey Sazicus, goes in behind the flames net, clips the back heel. of Jacob Markstrom. Now, there's one of two things happened. Either Markstrom went down hard because he was tripped or he's trying to sell a penalty. And I don't see how on that and tell me he's selling it. I don't see on that play how Markstrom is selling. It looks like he got his, he got his feet taken out and he does. He bangs the back of his head on the ice and then is sour. I don't know how
Starting point is 00:36:48 that's not a penalty. Even if you want to call that one. Wow, what are we going to sit here and whine about No, I'm not. I'm not. I'm just saying the standard was dog shit last night. I just thought that that's, that's the more egregious of the two. It's just a penalty at a key time in a hockey game. They could have called Holman for a high stick. There's all, I'm not, I'm with you. I'm just the two to, to the flames didn't lose because of it.
Starting point is 00:37:12 They refs were awful. That's what we're saying. So here's the video. Markstrom has his back to him. He has, I just think I thought it was kind of a, he backs into him. He backs into him. I don't know that you see some coming. Watch his eye contact here.
Starting point is 00:37:28 There's puck. And his right leg bends. Oof, yuck. And the other thing is, Zizekis, what about a week ago? 10 days ago. Chicago, you said? Find five grand for goalie interference
Starting point is 00:37:43 when he hits Alex Steylock. My point being, this guy knows what he's doing. And if it was the other way around, if it's a flame, taking out another goalie, you're like, oh, it's nothing to see here, just play on. If it was Matthew Kachuk, you're like, ha ha ha, we like having that.
Starting point is 00:37:57 Yeah, it's how he plays. It's part of the playbook. Anyway, they're both. Here's Sizicus. And like, again, doesn't mean anything. It's just a little more context. That's five grand fine. And the other one wasn't even a penalty.
Starting point is 00:38:12 It makes no effort to get out of the way. Watch him keep that line. He's not looking for a rebound. He just keeps his skates pointed array at the goal of here. Not going to move out of the way and take one. Dirty. Is Sizicus one of those guys that could go with his hat? would you put would that be somebody i think you'd love him if he was on the fourth line here
Starting point is 00:38:28 yeah you put him in your hat is he on your team or someone else's yeah coming up now we are not going to have a show on friday friday is remembrance day so we will be uh respectful and we'll be doing the mirf workout we'll be busy doing the murph workout yeah maybe i'm not sure how that uh how that goes i don't think i'm ready for that but what we what the next game that we have tickets for with madrose pub is the game against Winnipeg on the 12th. So we're not doing a show on the 11th, which means we're going to be giving these tickets away, Flames Jets tickets in advance.
Starting point is 00:39:02 So tomorrow is Wednesday. We might be doing this tomorrow. So that's your next opportunity to go and see the flames back at home already, which is crazy. They got two more road games in the east before they come home and play. Boston Thursday, Winnipeg Saturday, L.A. Monday, and then back out for six on the East Coast.
Starting point is 00:39:17 Yeah. So be listening. Your chance to listening, watching, however you take in the pretext. program. Check out Madrose Pub, $50 gift certificate, and a set of tickets to the game coming up probably tomorrow. A couple other quick game notes, just to finish off the penalty and the non-penalty. We talked about how good four-on-threes are. That goalie interference is very late in the final minute of the game, I believe. Well, yeah, it's right at the end of the game. So you would be
Starting point is 00:39:43 starting overtime four-on-three. So I feel like once you make that a non-call, you got to stick to your guns, but we've made that point. Just wanted to clarify timing on that because it was not. And that was kind of the point I made, a penalty at that point in time, which looked to be a fairly easy call to make, would have been a key penalty. So it's the flame starting four on three and all. Exactly. Secondly, the Roondogs had a tough go here.
Starting point is 00:40:04 You got to get a shot on a three on one when you have a chance to put a team away. That was painful to watch. Lindholm has two golden chances in overtime in front of the net. Does he not look a little bit? Wow. I like he's creating chances. more, but he looks a little snake bit. Squeezing his stick.
Starting point is 00:40:26 And Barzell was awesome. Anyone hating on that contract extension? Caps going up and he's not playing under Barry's system anymore. It might be a lot more offense there. We always knew the skill was there. Good player. Pretty good player.
Starting point is 00:40:42 On the YouTube chat, went to Mad Rose Sunday night. G.D. The wings and pizza are delicious. That was our order. Someone was listening. I concur. I'm starving. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Go back for some of that. I have it eaten today. I'm starving. Let's get out our Betway bets of the day. A busy night in the old national hockey league. What, 11 games tonight? 11 games.
Starting point is 00:41:07 10 non-flames games. One of them, I'm staying away from the flames. I did yesterday. Just good. Had some good luck. Went two and all. I stayed away from the other way.
Starting point is 00:41:16 I did the, yeah, that's right. Sabbers and Oilers and stuff. So in keeping with the good juju, I'm going to stay away. from the flames once again, because I think I went with the Predators, the last game,
Starting point is 00:41:26 and got my A handed to me. So let's go this way. The Vegas Golden Knights are in Toronto. Now the Leaves, you know, Leaves have won three in a row. Ever since that Mark Specter tweet, they've actually been good. Thanks, Mark, you fixed them.
Starting point is 00:41:40 Now, Vegas, meanwhile, they have been off since Saturday. Now granted, they were in Montreal, so I'm not sure if it's the Chez Perrie flu. I'm not sure how that works. But it was Saturday. It's already Tuesday. They've won seven in a row.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Get to Toronto quick. Game four of a road trip. You're getting plus money on the Golden Knights. I'm taking it. Yep, good. Plus 100 Golden Knights money line in Toronto. The Islanders, as we saw, they've won six of seven. In their last six trips to Madison Square Garden, they are five and one.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Wow. Rangers have lost back to back. They've scored two or fewer goals in three straight games. Okay. Give me the Islanders money line plus 150 at MSG against the Rangers. Okay, I am going to stay with the flames. Apologies, although I do have one non-flames if you think that would help. You do whatever you do, buddy.
Starting point is 00:42:27 I'm going to do flames. How about we go back to one of the bigger blockbuster trades who've seen in the NHL prior to the Kachuk, UBidoo, and Weger deal? How about Dougie and Lindholm each to record a point? Plus 200. The old Carolina Calgary swap, right? And then staying in the same theme, how about some playmakers getting assist tonight?
Starting point is 00:42:52 Hughes and Jonathan Huberto, each one assist or more, plus 225. Some plus 200. Big, big, big numbers here. Big numbers. If we hit one of those, we're at least even maybe up. There you go. That's your bet way picks of the night. Plays of the day.
Starting point is 00:43:06 The bets of the day. There you go. What the heck was I going to? Also, I looked at that Oilers Tampa over under. It's a big number. Yeah. Big number. When you were talking retro about your Bonton meats order,
Starting point is 00:43:20 How would you give Greg the specific like detailed list or would you just kind of say load me up with you know what I like just give me the ret just give me the thing do the Retsky. That's question one and number two. Was there chicken in that? I never could remember if you got chicken or if it was just all red. You had a 40 breasts I think he said. 40. 40. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:44 And it was pretty specific. It was pretty specific. I knew just I knew the I knew the. I knew the. freezer space. So I filled the freezer space. Because when I think of Bon Ton, and to your credit I guess is a Bon Ton Purist
Starting point is 00:43:58 and regular, I never really thought about poultry. And we talk about it. You know what? Actually, I got a turkey, a Christmas turkey or a Thanksgiving turkey from their home. Boy, it was something that's barely fit in the oven. Anyway, but the chicken. So you've done the chicken from Bon Ton. That's a, yeah, pretty
Starting point is 00:44:19 consistent, yeah. Absolutely. I would always, and you know what? I probably didn't say that. I'd usually get three or four roasting chickens to as well as the breasts and the bone in. I love the thighs. Got to get some thighs, boom. How much?
Starting point is 00:44:35 Because I don't know if you saw this story come out of Philadelphia, this dude that ate a rotissory chicken every day for 40 straight days. Yes, I saw this picture. 40 straight days. Just putting up signs on like electricity poles. Come watch me eat a full chicken at noon. Day 40. Huge crowd showed up. Because I think there's a difference between eating chicken.
Starting point is 00:45:02 We're going to roast it or we're going to barbecue it or we're going to have it in a salad or something. It's rotisserie chicken. Full chicken. Roasted chicken. 40 straight days. Look at this hero. Could you pull that off?
Starting point is 00:45:17 Or what would be? Brett, this is right up his alley. This would be a challenge for most mortals. I don't eat. I don't know. He wouldn't blink. I actually don't think this should be a challenge for any of you. If you're one of those people that only eats once a day, this is nothing.
Starting point is 00:45:31 It's not a big deal. 10 boxes of mac of cheese. Infinitely harder than a rotous. Yeah. Oh, geez. 10? Does someone tried 10? No, but he's tall.
Starting point is 00:45:44 He's big talk. I could eat 10. And then he's, okay, let's eat 10. I go. you about it. Then I said six. I could do six. Right. I just wonder about can you do it. Yes, you can. Like you said, if it's one, me, it's not so much the, the quantity of food. It's just how far would you get in before you would say, my, my palate, I want more than just rotisserie chicken. I'm done. This is stupid. Because I don't think he was raising money. Can I, can I, can I not have some Osceago
Starting point is 00:46:14 chicken dip or a ranch dip? Maybe some gravy on the side. We're putting a... Tiss re-burn in front of you. I don't care what you dip in. Well, then you're fine. Oh, yeah. It's a ranch.
Starting point is 00:46:28 You mix it up. Rett could house one of these things, no sweat a day for a year, never mind 40 days. I don't see any challenge here for him. You and I? That's a lot of work. You guys could handle that.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Boom gets the... He's got a sensitive belly, so sometimes he might be... I think it's more of his... it's the other things that he takes him. I love this. I love this pose. My juice.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Poster here. I guarantee you that guy's one of those eat once a day fellows too. Look at him. He's jacked. This is like his only meal of the day and he's crushing it and trying to make a big deal. Kito. This is how you go viral as a 20 year old in 2022.
Starting point is 00:47:08 You do something weird that maybe isn't that impressive, just odd and fans show up and it's on TikTok and you're famous. I agree. so I was going to say, I know Greg, I know you're in Buffalo and Greg is in Calgary. But if we got Bon Ton meats,
Starting point is 00:47:22 if you wanted to do one of these things, let's go viral, let's raise some money, let's do something. If not rotissory chicken, what can we do? You, Bon Ton, something every day
Starting point is 00:47:32 for a span of time. Let's do it. Warma. Greg's not doing Schwarma. How are we going to get food from Greg? Let's see. Like your idea, we got to get him home. Come home.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I talk to Greg about getting food from there. Trust me, Greg is all over working this out. Well, how do we cross the border with food here? It's tricky, but, you know, then you... Geez. If Greg was smart, he would open up a bloody bontan and Buffalo, since there's nothing to compare, and we'd be up and running in no time.
Starting point is 00:48:02 The longer you're gone, the more he thinks that's a good decision, I assure you. Bonton Meats has been doing this since 1921. They're not just throwing up little satellite stores because you can't control the quality, and that's what Bonton's about. It's when you walk through those doors in Cropus. you are getting the best because Greg is there and on it. He can only be in one place at one time. Yeah, but the stamps,
Starting point is 00:48:24 the stamps are done. That's true. Now he could come out and be a Bill's fan. He can help me learn the quality control issues. I'll run the damn thing. That sounds like a problem. It's a terrible idea. It's like letting me run a brewery.
Starting point is 00:48:37 You're bound to go bankrupt. He was trying to do this. We got open one in South Calgary. I'll run it. You know why he wants one in South Calgary? Because he lives in South Calgary. He doesn't want to drive up to the Northwest anymore. Yeah, you're going to eat for.
Starting point is 00:48:48 There's always something in it for RET. The Rettsters always got something in it. Somebody just came up with, what about a, what about one of those big buckets of potato salad every day? Oh, I think we're getting warmer. And what I'm telling you, that potato salad from Bontan meats, you think potato salad, you're thinking, ooh, heavy, really heavy. Somehow it's not.
Starting point is 00:49:09 It's incredible. It's really not. I also owe you guys, 32 nuggets. We are going to have to clear that at some point here. What is this happening? Oh, it's happening. 42. And just leave it to me.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Okay. Leave it to boom. Sooner than you think. How many times have you guys dug into that potato salad and then you put it in the fridge and about six minutes later? I need more than. Yeah. And you know how it happens is when you buy some four people coming over and you know you need to stop or there's not going to be enough. Let's do the, let's do the Pinder report.
Starting point is 00:49:49 It is a presentation of our buddies, Village Honda, up in the Northwest. Your one-stop automotive destination, your dealership for life in the Northwest, Auto Mall, go and see Anthony. I didn't get my F-1 tickets for Vegas. I was on the list. I know. And then it was on during the show and I forgot, but I had a code. How much were they?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Did you look at the price? I never did find out. But you could pay, so I paid to get on the... You just gave them some money and did that. Whatever. I paid to get on the priority list and then that they sent me the email. Here's your code. Be ready on whatever day at whatever time.
Starting point is 00:50:25 And then I was like, shit, that was today, 10 o'clock. And by the time I went on there, it was good long gone. So. How could you forget that? I'm so dedicated to this show. How do you have half-ass F-1 in Vegas? I am so focused. You could have sold those for double.
Starting point is 00:50:38 You had the bad gut. Did you see some of the footage from Vegas? They drove one right through like the win. No. They were pumped. They were flying up and down. on the store. Oh my God, it'll be great. I was not a big, I didn't know much about F1. I still don't know a ton.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Being a Montreal in June, sensational. Yeah, yeah. That thing is going to be a hit in Vegas. Staying the obvious. For Village Honda, this is the... All right, let's quickly go back to Flames Islanders last night. Hey, how good was the Flames first period? Well, we threw it out on the old Twitter machine.
Starting point is 00:51:14 It was only up for the intermission, 15 minutes. Was that the best period of hockey, the Flames? times have played. They come out of it only up, what, 2-1, but an 18-4 edge and the shot clock, a lot of people seem to think it is. I don't know. They had a pretty good period against Pittsburgh. I'm going to say, it's short, short memory. It's very much recency bias. I think it was one of their best three or four periods of the year and coming at the right time on the heels of some bad play. There was a lot of good periods in those opening seven games where they almost went six and one, not for the puck on the dashboard that ruined their season, apparently.
Starting point is 00:51:46 lots of positives. Hubrado was around at a bunch, and I thought Nick D. Simone until he coughed up the game-tying goal, actually did it okay for your 10th defenseman. Did something happen before that that maybe put him in a bad spot? Did somebody put him in a,
Starting point is 00:52:03 because it can happen sometimes. You get a bad pass, and then you've got to panic with it. There was three guys in blue jerseys on one side, and that was where he threw the puck. I'm just wondering. It's reliving that, I think, in his hotel room last night. They're back at it tonight.
Starting point is 00:52:16 It's the New Jersey Devils. We mentioned Hubert are looking a little better. That's a good sign. It wasn't a slow start last year, but he didn't really go nuclear until he got through the first month and a half of the season. So we have a tweet about, yeah, there it is. So 13 points in 14 games is not a slow start.
Starting point is 00:52:34 But the last 66 games, 102 points, that's how you get to 115. This does not mean he's going to do that again, but it does remind us that weird, and weirder things happen in smaller samples. Allow this guy some time. And yeah, maybe he is dealing with something aside from, you know, the BS shit story that Darrell sold us.
Starting point is 00:52:56 So you abbreviated BS and then... I know. Yeah, I didn't want to do bullshit shit story. Shit shit back to back. That's a lot. Devils tonight, they got some news, at least a little more clarity on two injury situations. First off, McKenzie Blackwood,
Starting point is 00:53:10 former Team Canada World Junior goalie, heard again. after missing a lot of time last year, three to six weeks with an MCL spray and hasn't really been a problem. Vitech Vanec was really good on that Western Canadian swing. And then another guy we've kind of forgotten about,
Starting point is 00:53:23 free agent signing, Cup winner, Andrea Pallat, eight to ten weeks, which, you know, not great news, but not unexpected with the nature of his injury.
Starting point is 00:53:33 It is groin. Speaking of which, how's your groin, right? I know you were moaning about that what first week of the show. Full of healed? I could might need a surgery for his, groin
Starting point is 00:53:45 hamstring area. What? Your kid or you? My kid? Oh boy, that doesn't sound good. But didn't you? You had a... Something wrong with your boss.
Starting point is 00:53:57 It's a hemorrhoidal hernia. Ooh. It doesn't sound good. Gross. Can I puke. Is that a thing? A hammeroidal? Or is that just haemorrhoids?
Starting point is 00:54:11 I thought it was the hernia in your... Is it an inner groin? In your... Nutsack. Well, I thought that was a word for it, but it might be something different. All right. Yeah, hammeroid. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:25 Either way, it's a 7 o'clock Sabres time we're at tonight, five o'clock here in glorious Calgary, Alberta, and this gorgeous summer-like, warm, very warm. Somebody's freaking out on YouTube. What times the game? What times the game? If you're on YouTube, you can probably look at. Yeah, that's true. You can Google it.
Starting point is 00:54:43 If you can get to YouTube, there's a little, about a billion ways you can find the start time of that game. 11 games in the NHL tonight. Let's take a quick peek. We got some interesting matchups here. We've got the Yo bowl. Yo! Mike Yo's former two clubs.
Starting point is 00:54:58 The Blues and Flyers. Who's in more trouble? Because one was a good team and they're playing bad. St. Louis last in the West. And what was a bad team? Philly were there to play good under Torts. So you've got to ride or die with the Blues or the Flyers. Who are you taking, Dean?
Starting point is 00:55:14 Well, the Blues already had their GM come in and have the players meeting. the GM has already come into the room and had the meeting. Oh, wow. I don't think Philadelphia's been there. But Torz is already healthy scratch, wristo and errated them in the media. I have more faith. Good start, but getting outshot every night. Oh, it's going to be good.
Starting point is 00:55:33 I have more faith. I prefer the flyers, but I have more faith in the blues. Interestingly, Edmonton played in Washington last night. And then again, tonight, they're on a back-to-back on the road in the east, just like the flames are. They're in Tampa. Feels like a lot of goals there, doesn't it? I think it's time for...
Starting point is 00:55:49 Razor. The old skin dog was in that last night. Is it back to Jack Campbell time? Oh, I hope so. Go ahead, buddy. Razor told me Tampa looks slow. Tampa looks slow. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Well, the top line looks pretty good, but they've had to shed a lot of pieces along the way. Okay, other games of note, we mentioned with Frank, Vancouver and Ottawa, two Canadian teams feeling a bit of heat. Any thoughts who you like there? sir, we'll return tonight, apparently. And out with injury.
Starting point is 00:56:19 What's going to go on in Vancouver? Because this is now the second time, at least, that we've heard from the GM saying, oh, we're not playing. We've got to be better. It's got to play some better, some better, better. Better be better. And Bruce Boudreau today saying,
Starting point is 00:56:30 I don't want to have the debate about how much structure we're playing with. We're working hard and we're trying to along those lines. So don't give up for a game. Probably a good call. Start there. That's tough.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And Demco, I mean, if he's not going to be great, they're torpedoed because that blue line's bad to begin with. And kill a penalty. Oof. 60%? You kidding me? That's gross. Maybe work on the P.K.
Starting point is 00:56:56 What's Boudreau doing out there? Who's that defense been there that's so good, the young guy, the superstar guy? Quinn. Quinn's been in and out. Oh. You tried him to New Jersey for Dougie? Okay. There's your look, see, at those two.
Starting point is 00:57:13 I think we might have stole that from another show. great stuff. Well done there, Alex. And the Battle of New York as well. As, as Dino, you heard in his Betway Betts of the day, it is the Rangers and Islanders from Broadway. It hasn't always been must watch, but I feel like this is a pretty decent rivalry. Battle of Florida, Battle of New York, Battle of Alberta, Battle of Ontario. I feel like they're all in pretty good shape right now. And they had it on the broadcast last night. They were talking about the pot van socks, the pot van sucks, socks kind of thing. If you're listening in the first period, you'll always hear it. there's a guy at MSG or they
Starting point is 00:57:45 he kind of whistles it's kind of a thing and then the whole crowd at the same time we'll chant pot van sucks Denny Potvan's been retired for about 40 years and now he's selling Potvan socks which Ryan Leslie had on the broadcast last night
Starting point is 00:58:01 well done. I like it I like it a lot like that rivalry if they want to meet in the playoffs Battle of Alberta in the playoffs Battle of Florida in the playoffs Battle of Ontario in the playoffs Boy that'd be good Okay, moving along.
Starting point is 00:58:13 Non-NHHO no, hang on. Staying in Ottawa, RET. We love on this show when people are so awesome, they talk about themselves as a third person. Mike Babcock's wife likes Toronto,
Starting point is 00:58:29 said Mike Babcock or something on this. Mike Babcock, the Rettster. Here's a quote. Pierre Dorian's very loyal. DJ's done a good job and he's shown he can win. Okay, well, who said that? Pierre Doreon. Yeah, I do like it.
Starting point is 00:58:45 Is it just us that think this is the most like self-absorbed, like unapparent, like, how, how could people speak like this? Maybe it's a new group of media and they may not know who's talking. Oh dear. Pierre Dorian is very loyal. Pierre Dorian makes hockey decisions. You already gave us that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:08 And now he's got Pierre Dorian is very loyal. I feel like we could ask other people if he's loyal or not, but apparently Pierre Diorans, the authority on Pierre Doreon, so fair enough. He'll let you know. He's going to let us know. Very good. And Ryan Reynolds is serious about buying the team,
Starting point is 00:59:24 he says. He just needs someone with very deep pockets. So he'd love to be the face of a group of people with about a billion dollars to buy the sends, and oh, they're going to have to kick in some money for a rate to. Oh, is that how it goes? So he's prepared to be an owner. I'd love being an owner.
Starting point is 00:59:37 I just need everyone else's money, if that's okay. I knew he's doing well on like the, How much you make per movie? Damn powerball thing down here. Did you hear about the powerball down here? Someone's tweeting it's fixed. What's going on? 1.9 billion.
Starting point is 00:59:55 $1.9 billion. Tell me more. I screwed up the draw last night. Oh, they screwed it up. And I got a ticket and had 44 on it. I thought for sure I was going to win. Forrest, overdue. If you won $1.9 billion.
Starting point is 01:00:10 Dean would off himself. You would not be able to live on this planet anymore. Perhaps. If you won Powerball. Not what I was thinking, but two things. Say you won it last night. Would you have been on today's show? Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:00:26 And or of the $1.9 billion, you have a lot of friends on your friend bus. Bus is full. How much for your buddy, boom, and pender each? How much? It's a million bucks a pop. Oh, wow. Princey nearly fell out of his chair.
Starting point is 01:00:43 And he, I don't even know if you, you haven't even met Princey person once. You were hammered at that Battle of Alberta game five at the dome. Do you remember me, Rhett? Game three. I remember. Game five. Yeah, two or five.
Starting point is 01:00:55 It was game two. Yeah. Remember I, uh, I brought my boys, O'Brien and Upshaw in your suite there. Benny Hebes got us in there. You said, uh, yeah, they said you were here, their boys, but. Yeah, and commie was there. What would you say you were going to do to me if I won, boom?
Starting point is 01:01:16 He asked the question. No, I asked. What would you do if you won? Would you be on the show the next day? If you won yesterday, would we have had you? Because you've been great today. MVP performance again. Just a steady run.
Starting point is 01:01:26 And of the $1.9 billion, how much would you give to your longtime partners and friends? Walking sticks. Boom. I'd get you a million and a new truck. boom boom oh wow i got a place for you uh tower and i don't know if i'd have been on today only because i feel like there'd be a lot of paperwork to fill out yeah that would take me some i also think you might already be on an island we haven't heard of uh through your private jet that
Starting point is 01:01:58 you've already purchased so now this is what would happen i would get i would get the right ticket numbers and then i'd walk into the store or whatever and i'd say yes please cut me the check and they'd say, oh, you're the stupid Canadian that can't win an American lottery. No. Beat it. Give it your wife. Shoveler. Shovelina.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Need you. That'd be a hard one to recover from. Winning the lottery. But you can't get the dough. So not winning the lottery. Yeah. But you thought you'd won it. But you won it.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Except you didn't win it. Right. It's like Brett Hall was foot in the crease. Cheap. Yeah. Didn't need to go there. I'm sorry, Ryan. This is the Pender Report.
Starting point is 01:02:42 We've kind of been walking all over you. I think it's been great. The more interaction, the better. Let's go to other sports. We'll start with the NFL where the Ravens rolled up the Saints. Man, the NFC South sucks balls. It's just the worst division in football. Gross.
Starting point is 01:02:55 Tom Brady's got a chance. That's how bad these other teams are. Ravens look good heading into their pie at 6 and 3. I made a pie on Sunday. Apple. Pie in 6 and 3, okay. Other, I know. Are you talking about you made your own dough and everything?
Starting point is 01:03:10 I did my own crust. I was going to say dough is the wrong word, isn't it? It's the, yeah, it's the crust. This is the second straight week. I want to learn, because I'm not a great, I cook fairly well. I make meals. Baker. I'm not a very accomplished baker. I've not done a lot.
Starting point is 01:03:24 I'm learning. So yeah, I get the shortening and the butter and leavener sit, rolling it out. It's all different. It's changing. It's because of the altitude. It's a science. The altitude.
Starting point is 01:03:36 It's trout. Throw out. Tough to make sourdough with this altitude. Water. People got to know what they're doing. Oh, a suit. Brett, buckle up. The US of A is about to get rocked
Starting point is 01:03:48 with a brand new professional sports league. And I know you have bid upon sports franchises before. Tell me you're an investor in major league cricket. Coming to an America near you. That'll be big, actually. It's because we don't pay attention. I'm not even joking. Biggest ones in the world.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Like there's 20 million people apparently that religiously watch. cricket in the U.S. alone. And there it is, majorly cricket. The Buffalo Rettsters. Sign them up. Americans won't have the staying power because these cricket matches take days.
Starting point is 01:04:22 Well, so they can, there's all kinds of different styles of cricket. They have the copyright for something called T20 cricket, which is a compressed made-for-TV three-hour game. Yeah, it's got to be something. It's got to be bite size for private time. Boom, we could.
Starting point is 01:04:35 We could commit, boom. That's our style. The old school cricket, just hang out for days on it. As long as there's good food. Absolutely we are. Food and recliners, we're in. Yes. Open wide for some cricket.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Wednesday, game one. Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday. Okay, good. Sorry, that's three games. No, that's all for some of that. For sure. Honey, I'm working. Leave me alone.
Starting point is 01:04:56 I'm working. Other sporting news, the match is back, and we're getting less footbally people and more good golfers, which may or may not be good. Tiger Woods and Roy McElroy squaring off against Speeth and Thomas. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:10 And they're doing, at Pelican Golf Club, Dean. Ah, the pelican. What's that they say about a pelican? Well, Dean, they say his beak can hold more than his bellicum. He can hold in his beak enough for a week. And I don't know how the hell he can. Finally, 12 days of the World Cup starts in Qatar or Qatar.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Right. A place where they bribe FIFA to go. It's like 50 degrees in the summer and they're ruining all the soccer seasons of the winter to play it there. Nice work, you corrupt assholes. That's your Pinda Report. Pinda report is brought to you by Village Honda. Come and see why Calgarians everywhere are making the trip to Village Honda. VillageHonda.com.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Go check about online. New used. You got it all there. It's your dealership for life in the Northwest Auto Mall. Also, they're cheering for Holland and Canada. I see. Village Honda are the two teams, the orange and the red. Now, did you put in the golf story just to use the Pelican Golf?
Starting point is 01:06:10 I actually thought it was going to be, Shadow Creek again, I think the one in Vegas, and I looked, and it wasn't. I'm like, oh, maybe that's not in Vegas. So I just read the name of the course. And well, when I see the word Pelican, there's only two things to do. Make fun of the NBA or say the rhyme. It would only make me happier as if it's like, no, I just use it to use the Pelican. I don't really care about the match. I wanted to just say the rhyme. So game tonight, six in a row for the devils, nine and one in their last 10. They have a handful of players who are all on four game, Point Streaks.
Starting point is 01:06:42 They are loving life. Your old boy, Lindy, Lindy Ruff, has got them roll in retro. First game back from a road trip, they'll be terrible. Love it. Flames are due for one of those. Question. Opponents being terrible. They're going to be wound up.
Starting point is 01:06:59 So tonight, game two of a back-to-back. Yep. Game two of a three-game trip. I see where you're going here. The next one is in Boston, Vlidar's former team. Do you play Vlodar? tonight, Markstrom Saturday. Do you play Markstrom
Starting point is 01:07:16 again tonight? Vladar Saturday? Vlidar tonight and Saturday. Oh, geez, wow. I'm going to play Markstrom until I get a win, thanks. He was good last night. Yeah, and it's so, I hate
Starting point is 01:07:34 giving out excuses, but the guy didn't touch a puck for like 12 minutes. And the reason I might say put him in again tonight, it's back to back, because then it's Vladar to I guess his former team. That it's a tight turn. You got Winnipeg on the weekend. You give Markstrom whatever it would end up being three days off, but with travel from the east. I wonder if you go Markstrom again tonight, let Vladar face his former team, which is why, if he didn't know, he was a
Starting point is 01:07:59 Boston Bruin. That's why I bring that up. And we've seen both things happen last year alone. There's two big road trips at the beginning of the year. The first time they were in New Jersey on the second of a back-to-back, Vladar went in. But then also when they had another back-to-back on their next trip out, it was Vladar against Boston. He was spectacular, a 4-0 shutout against the Bruins. I think he plays against Boston. And Retro, you talk about it all the time. Guys want to play against their old teams.
Starting point is 01:08:25 They love it. There's a big emotional touch to it. Like, it's, yeah, you're up for those ones. Yeah, and sway dogs hurt for the brunes. It's, it's, you know. So, I think more, I don't think right now it's anything to do with feelings, so. I don't think Darrell gives the rats about what Vlodar wants. No, I agree.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Daryl wants a win. But Daryl will know that one of Bladar's, what, two shutouts last year, was in Boston on the second half of a back-to-back. And he's playing him one game a week. Obviously. He told us that month ago. He wouldn't lie to us. Except that week you didn't play. Except that week you didn't get in there.
Starting point is 01:09:02 The third week of the year, yeah. So like you said, Markstrom, if he doesn't win, play him again. We talked about it at the outset. Is it a five-game losing? streak or is it points in two straight. If you don't win tonight, I don't care what you call it, you haven't won in six. Yep. That's a big number.
Starting point is 01:09:21 That's that crooked numbers in golf kind of thing. Yeah, they're already crooked and, but I'm with you. Like it's, I, process is very important this time of year in the sense that like, Philadelphia was getting outchanced and won a bunch because their goalie was upside down 950. And it's like, oh, the flyers are good again. It's like, well, come on. We're smarter than that.
Starting point is 01:09:43 They're not great. They're not a division leading club. Maybe they're better. And I was very encouraged by a lot of the process I saw when they fell behind against New Jersey at home. Last night on Long Island. But you still need points. And I was going to post this yesterday after the first, which was interesting timing. I should have because of how the game went.
Starting point is 01:10:05 Would you have been happier with a flames win where they get their asses kicked than just lucky? Or Markstrom hangs a zero? or would you be happier with a game that they dominate most, but don't get chances and lose? Because it's really that whole process versus result conversation. It all depends on how they do tonight, thanks. Exactly. I think the fan base just wants a W.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Whether it's pretty or ugly, they just want a W. But there was a lot of really good signs for a bulk of the game last night. We've talked about it for years, and I believe it's true. It's kind of one of those things that when you're playing really well and you're on a winning streak, wobbly. A little sloppy. And before you finally lose.
Starting point is 01:10:45 And when you're in a losing streak, you start to play better, but sometimes it's hard to finally get out of it. I wonder if last night was kind of one of those nights. They were really good through 40, and yeah, they didn't get it. But it's back-to-back games in overtime, power play goals kill them. I wonder if they're very, if they are close to get that. And maybe tonight's tonight, they get the advantage of awful officiating, which isn't new.
Starting point is 01:11:08 It's in this league all the time because the last two games have been tough for the calls that ended the game for them. What are you eating for the game tonight, Rad? Part of the, part of the issue is that it can quickly unfold and get real bad. They don't win tonight. If it's bad process and bad result tonight, look out. Yeah, and the doubles can do that. I'm embarrassing to Boston.
Starting point is 01:11:28 And even if you play well, they're good squads. So travel all the way back. You got the long travel, the first game back after the road show, blah, blah, blah, right? All of a sudden, and then your head back out east of it. Like it's the snowball has started to roll and they better put a squash to it. Yeah. And for the, what am I having for supper tonight? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:50 I don't know. It's the father-in-law's birthday. The politics will be in full. Oh, that's something political going on. Oh, wow. There will. I don't know. You, do you never know if it's going to be silence or just screen.
Starting point is 01:12:07 Tangents. Yeah. At the TV. Will you even get, I was going to say, will you even have. the game on the TV tonight or is it just well I wouldn't be seeing it is it all just Fox News I will not be able to have the I think we're probably going to Graham and Grandpa's for supper so no I won't be able to have it on over there no chance right no probably best to keep the TVs off as long as possible
Starting point is 01:12:28 and then back to your own place yeah ask Rhett coming up on Thursday let's get some questions get some questions in the email is set ask ret at flamesnation dot CA email in your questions we've been getting some good ones. We kind of put out the alert last week. Stop asking how to cook brisket. Let's get going here. Let's get some good questions. We've got some good stuff coming in, but we want to get your questions in this week. It'll be Thursday again. We're off on Friday. It's a Thursday final show of the week.
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