Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - FlamesNation Barn Burner: Calgary Flames Philadelphia Flyers Next Day Reaction

Episode Date: November 22, 2022

Live from the Tower Chrysler Studios in Marda Loop! FlamesNation Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener Tuesday November 22nd, 2022- Flames Flyers Game Day Recap - Next up the Pittsburgh Penguins - Frank Seravalli from Daily Faceoff Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Let's go. Let's get at it here on this beautiful Tuesday. What are you wearing? What are you wearing? Clothes, scarf on my head. You have a, for those that are not watching on the YouTube, you are wearing a Cavalry FC, sort of a zip. It's a zip up, yeah. Zip up.

It just matches the colors and it's footy. Yeah. And you've got a scarf. An official voyageurs. scarf, the voyagers of the Canadian supporters club of our national men's team. I see. So we told you we're going to Qatar. Now you're finally going to believe us. And there's the scarf. I see. That's that's, I was going to ask you what it said on there. Something along those lines. It's very exciting day tomorrow. I figured, you know, there's going to be a lot of people consuming the show in the next 24 hours that will lead right into Canada's first World Cup appearance since I probably was peeing my bed.

Not eight years ago. Ninety-two. So the game. is tomorrow. Yeah, that's right. So I can wear this again in my head tomorrow. Okay. I wasn't, because you walked in and I was thinking, I thought I could have sworn it was tomorrow. You were talking about Wednesday.

Today's Tuesday, I think. So you're just... Well, I don't even know. Maybe we canceled the show tomorrow. Is this every day to moving forward? Well, you told me not to show up for the show tomorrow. I didn't exactly say that. I think I said, do the show from where you're watching the game.

I'm excited today. I put it on today. That's how it worked. All right. There's Rhett. Look at this fancy. It looks like you're in the waiting lounge of your psychiatrist with that art in the background. What have we got in the background?

Some additions to the set. That's interpretive art right there, Dean. You can just make of it what you will. Is that the Roche block or whatever they call it? What was it, the Roershack test? Inkblot testing. I see, what do you see on the right? I see a sumo wrestler of some sort on the right.

and I see... That's quite the nice cocktail on the left. Soup. I'm just going to say I see a bowl of full soup. What's falling into my full? That's a lime wheel in the margarita glass. Yeah. Oh, there's an egg.

Well, here we are. Here we are on a great day. The flames find a way to get it done again. Now, was there any concern that this is going to be another one of these blown leads? It's all been blown leads. getting a lead, blowing a lead, scoring first. Good, blow the lead, lose. When the 11-year-old started screaming at Markstrom to stop the puck,

I did get a little concerned. That's your boy, hey? What did he have a problem with? Was it off the skate or the direct giveaway in the slot? He caught himself. He goes, oh, maybe. That wasn't Marstrom's fault. Maybe the pass wasn't so good.

Hey, the pass was on the tape. Yeah, that's a good pass. Wrong team, great pass. and like they looked they were in control at that way just flashed the graphic I know shots for the flame six shot for the Lehigh Valley phantoms or whatever it was one and then the turnover and you're like okay well they actually were playing well till bad pass yeah yeah get a couple empty debtors and then you get out of there I guess just general thoughts the flyers aren't very good I know that Eric Francis said in the

second period. A Flyers are bad. It's a bad team. They're a hurt team. They're a hurt team. And they aren't a good team as well. It's probably compounding the issue. The, well, the first two goals, it was 2-0 by what, the 1350. Odd Man Rush, Odd Man Rush, 2-1. Good shots. Yeah, good shots. But yeah, I think that they are,

I think they are a challenged hockey team. And they've been challenged for a few years and it's not like they went and bolstered that roster. They've deleted Giroux. They've continued to pay Grasmus Ristelainen too much money and extended him. Like Carter Hart, you feel for the guy

that's not a great environment for a young goalie? Yeah, it is backpack, but he sucks. So whatever. It doesn't even register now. It's been so many years. Torts is already healthy, scratch them boys. I'm not making this stuff up here. 12 million.

Imagine if you brought a, like, if Weiger had been in the press box, that's like they're, I don't know that the dollars are way off there. Like, that's the level of, like, Torts has not really been thrilled. We'll talk with Frank later, but I mean, that didn't make any sense to me at all for a team that didn't look like they were close or contending

to re-up that guy on that term after what they paid to get them. Well, isn't that what you... That's the least of the Philadelphia Flyers problems. I mean, Couturia may not play again. Big problem, right? Yeah. Great. I like everyone would love to have one of those guys,

Every team you love to have a guy like that. But man, the way he plays, his body's starting to break down. They brought in Ryan Ellis, who I think is what, played three games in two years. Hardly played. Hardly at all. And, you know, it's a lot of young guys. I like Farabee. I like Kinectney, who didn't play.

He's out. They got James Van Riemndesdyke, who is good on the power play. He's out. It just ruled Kine out for 10 to 14 days, too, this morning. We knew he was out, but that's a firmer timeline than I think we had yesterday. So anyway, he had to win that game. Had to win that game. And they did. Was it perfect? No.

You consider where Markstrom's been with the one crappy one a game for a while here. Off a skate, horrendous giveaway. That's actually a nice tidy effort from your number one goal. Well, and made a big save at the end. Yep. No, like rock solid. In a different circumstance, that's a shutout, right? He's bending a lot there.

But point being, it's best start in a while, I think. Off skating and bad luck. Oh, you know. Or two goals. It's a shoutout, or whatever you want to call it, Red, I don't know.

Hey, it's a shout out for him. Right now, we'll take it. Is he really playing that poor? I feel like we spent a lot of times talking about it. We have the worst. We have the worst goals against average in the league,

don't we? I was listening. I watched the Flyers broadcasts, and they said it last night. Flames are 32nd and goals against or something. Or maybe it's saved percentage, one or the other. Yeah, the same percentage is not tidy.

The more nerdy numbers sort of have them closer to the middle of the pack, i.e. they're given up high quality chances, which would meet the test of what we've watched in that seven-game skid. It was like, where are all these great A's coming from? Like, no shots against for the Islanders for 10 minutes. And then, oh, wide open in front. What? Yeah.

Or like, odd man rushes. Like, they've been too loose defensively, and he hasn't been great. Compound that and it's bad save percentage. You mentioned Frank Serre. Why wait any longer? Bring in Franksard Valley. We're talking about Philadelphia.

We're talking about the Flyers. And here he is. I believe it was at the game last night. I'm led to believe. Oh, he was. He's coaching, was that? What's going on? Frank Sierra Valley, our hockey insider.

I was at the game. I was actually sitting right behind Mr. Markstrom, and I thought he looked really confident and calm, if that means anything to you. Whatever his struggles have been to this point in the season, I was really impressed watching his game. I thought he looked really good. There you go.

Yeah, and I think he's made a lot of big saves along the way. it's just that one stinker that wasn't in his game last night. And look, there are a lot of goalies around the league this year in what's been an insanely streaky season that have really been very consistent over the last number of years that have struggled to start. Markstrom is just one of them statistically. UC Soros has struggled.

Vasilevsky has had his moments. You know, even Chesterkin has had a few moments where you're like, huh, this doesn't look quite like the same guy. It's the most fickle position in pro sports. I truly believe that. And look, does Markstrom need to be better? Yes. But I think he's gotten on the right track here,

or at least back on the rails in the last week to 10 days. Brett's trading him. He's not telling us until he gets the GM money, how or where, but he'd be trading Markstrom right now. I said we could solve all of our top six problems. If we could trade, if we just got rid of our crappy goal of tender Marksum, no problem.

It'd be good. With a no move. Do you want to wager anything on today's show or no? Do I want to what? Do you want a wager? I'm like, I'm like, make a bet for a little wager here.

Well, Frank's on your whole. You have the inside, you have an inside scoop last week, and you absolutely steamroll me, and you knew it was being canceled. I'm just a pure fan. I just want to go to a game.

You're in Buffalo. What do you mean? He has an inside scoop. You're literally living in the city that has the weather forecast. Inside scoop, Like someone in in in in Tunisia could have made a made that bet like someone that doesn't even know where a buffalo is on a map but saw a weather report that said four to six feet and they were like who's the insider here me or you who huh? I don't know I can know with the national weather service I cover the national hockey league. Did we decide what the bet was?

You're the no frank. I think it was a bottle of bottle you're talking about booze some liquor some brown lincoln some brown liquor i found something nice for frank i said i'd send him some josh allen jacks but my kid ate them all so i can't send those uh now i got to buy him a bottle booze so i got it all figured out i just need an address it'll be there for the holidays wow if you give me the address quick which holidays thanksgiving and then and then frank and then frank you could sit and watch the bills on thursday and drink your booze and have a great day Some thanksgiving meal.

Pick out football. It feels wrong too, having won this. Like it feels like I shouldn't get anything for something so painfully obvious. It's for all the content you give it. I'm not even rubbing it in. Like honestly, I felt like it was. Why couldn't they play? Yeah, I can't see why either, Rhett.

It's baffling me too. It's football. They play in bad weather. Let's go. Did you dig out? Like, how, when was the first? time you were able to leave your house we had nothing that's the thing about buffalo is that it's the city and south is where you get slammed and we're just north of town and like we didn't

get nothing we got more than a skiff but we didn't have to dig out at all yeah it looks like you had less than a foot you only got two feet or or what we got about a foot here about a foot but over 48 hours but what was great still a pretty good hall for most places for sure for sure for Sure it is, but that's like people were texting and asking like, how was it? I'm like, well, it was, it wasn't that big a deal. Like we were, we were never, our roads weren't shut down. We weren't part of the, you know, like they actually said, stay off the roads. It's a declared emergency, blah, blah, blah.

But it was funny driving to school today. The school buses, the kids are, and my kids like, holy dad, look at that. There had to be seven feet of snow on top of the school bus. driving down the road. What happened here? We don't know. We found it on Twitter. It may or may not be real, but that's okay.

What was great about it was because usually we have Frank on Tuesday. We had them on Thursday last week. So it was the timing of it all, as the bet was, will this game, the Bills and Browns, will it be played at Buffalo? And Frank says absolutely not. And Red's like, oh, come on. It's whatever. This is what we do here is they got, you should see how they clear snow.

And it was about nine minutes after we were done the show. Oh, by the way, NFL says they're moving this game to Detroit. So it was not just that you were wrong. It's the speed in which you were wrong. It was impressive. Yeah, it was good. That's why Frank knew. Frank could talk to someone on the inside of the Bell Stadium,

and he knew that they were going to push it over to Detroit. It's brutal. No one could have seen it coming. It was an inside job. Yeah. They reimburse you. Yeah. Or they just don't charge it, I guess.

Okay, so Frank, you're at the... Well, look, now you have extra money to buy me boots. Yeah, flames and flyers last night. That would be great. What were you doing there? And beyond Markstrom, the crappy goalie, as Red calls him. Thoughts on the scene last night at the Wells Fargo Center. So my son played during the intermission, the 8-U team that I helped coach.

And it was really cool. Awesome night. My guy, definitely not the best player on our team or really shy kid. Just scores a goal and erupts with a ridiculous. Selly on the ice and I was like I almost fell over it was really cool to watch and I don't know if Alex has the there is here's the clip my guy goes in here you go you got the puck there goes in nice goal and then oh yeah drop to the knee let's do it come on kid I act like you've been there kid it was it was pretty awesome yeah man and honestly like he might have scored three goals in his

entire life to score last night. It was pretty awesome. There you go on. There you go. I was, all the NHS, it's not all of them, but out of all the NHL rinks, the candy and the grub at the Philadelphia for the media is the best in the league. Is that fair? Or has it changed?

It's been a while since I've been there. No, it's still good. There is a ridiculous supply of candy, but it's actually. Chicago they used to for the longest time during intermissions they would have like a full on like pasta bar and like big sweet cart where you could get cake and cookies and anything that you wanted and it was like you could just take that piece of cake and just glue it right to my ass because like I could not do I could not do 41 home games there there's no way I would make it because they sit out in Chicago go enough. So does the media get different

than like the dopey players that go up? I think it's available to everyone. It's just players probably have more discipline than me. I didn't. Because they had bowls of like skittles and like Swedish berries. It was if you were a kid, you'd be like this is the greatest job in the world.

That's my wife's nightmare. And then I don't want to speak badly about other teams. Anyway, it's not about that. It's not about that. At least there's popcorn at the dome. A lot of popcorn. Very salty. Yeah, I stole a bag once and took it to the casino. And when Rhett says a bag, it was one of the, like, industrial.

Literally this big, a garbage bag. A huge garbage bag that I don't know if it was, like, was it old, was it new? Was it what they swept off the floor? I don't know. I had to scooped it. check it at the because we went to cowboys and Rhett used the coat check for his bag of popcorn but the kids in the morning Frank when they woke up with that bag was sitting on the kitchen table big bad big pop-a-pump was a winner that's that ever daddy so did you did you come back home

and like in the morning your kids come down for breakfast and it's like that scene in uncle buck where he's like you thought that pancakes were big I couldn't get the french toast or the door Like what was happening there? Like they're like, dad, why would anyone want a bag of popcorn this big? They didn't ask questions, Frank. They just tore into it, just started shoveling it in, just like a good kid would, right? Just chowing on it. It was everywhere.

The shoveler, who's my significant other, less impressed. I just think anyone else tries to pull this kind of stunt. It's like you're like punted from the building. And it's Rhett sauntering around with the best gig gag of all time. I'm like, oh. Rett is the, if you ever go out with Rett, he is the king of leaving, leaving with the leftovers or before the check shows. I mean, the one story from Mercado is legendary,

where it was hundreds of dollars of leftover food that was packaged and ready in bags for everyone to take their, Rhett goes to the washroom. Yoink. Yoink, out the back door, gone. smoke bomb complete smoke bomb and it's it's less about whether you paid for the check or over that it's just more about what leftover or packaged food means to you when you lay eyes on it you're powerless i was over i was over served i headed to the washroom and i saw the bag sitting there and i said

i'm good i've had enough to drink it's probably time to go home red these must be for me take me Matt. Also, Frank, if we're ever out drinking, I don't say goodbye. I leave. So don't be offended if all of a sudden you're sitting there by yourself. Did not know you were Irish. It's not you, it's him. Yeah. Well, and that's the thing. He ghosts immediately. Now, God forbid you ever, you're at an event with Rhett and you look around and you don't see him. You just assume he's gone. and then you leave. But perhaps he was still there. Then you are an asshole.

As it was the Christmas party the one year. Now, we went together. But again, I'm just so used to read, I got an Uber, what? What? He'll send you a picture from his couch. Oh, you're at home already. Okay, good.

So I go to leave the Christmas party. Good enough. I get the text. Where are you? Quitter. Well, I'm on my way home. I'm still here. Sour puss.

I don't have that problem. If you're the last man standing, you never leave early. That's true. Yeah. Is Pinder still here? Of course he still. Yeah, the lights aren't on yet. He's here somewhere. Okay, let's talk some hockey.

Let's talk some hockey. 13 in a row for the New Jersey Devils. Their numbers are bananas. We talked with this last week. They've won nine or eight or whatever it was then. Now it's up to 13 straight. You don't fluke your way to 13 in a row. Vtec Vanichek has been a great ad for them.

The D-Corps is awesome. D's strong. How did this? He sure is. turned the corner completely. Looks like a captain. He looks like a first overall pick now. Hughes is playing great.

And like you had said, a week ago, are they a playoff team? Yeah, they're a playoff team. It's now a matter of how good are they? I don't think any of this is by accident. Like, if you're asking me if I thought the New Jersey Devils would have one 13 straight at any point, be closing it on a franchise record. and running away with the metro, I would say you're absolutely crazy. But some of the foundational pieces have been there.

And I just, for guys that obviously are watching the West way more intently than the East, like, Nico Heeshire has been growing into this player for the last number of years and is a really good player that just hasn't gotten a ton of attention since his draft year. Jack Hughes took an enormous leap last season. He's been able to continue that. Jasper Bratt, same thing. I bet the devil is at this exact moment in time as he leads their team in scoring or sitting here going, man, I really wish we signed that guy to a longer term deal last year instead of pushing his buttons,

taking him to arbitration. And so now they're in this spot where they've made a couple improvements on defense. John Marino has been really good, a smart play in net in Vtec VTac, if not a bet that I was a little bit leery of to start the year. And they're in a really solid spot, not just as a lock for a playoff team, but now I think you start to wonder with the heater that they've been on, how much more than that are they? But I think when you consider it from the grand sort of 30,000 foot view, what's exciting if you're a devil's fan, and there's only six of them out there, that you have a team that's going to be really competitive for at least the next five years. Here's another thing. Last year's netminders, Blackwood, 25 games,

Dawes, 25, Gillies, 19, 10 for Bernier, Hammond, 7, Schme, six, Wedgwood three. Like, I don't care who you are in the NHL. If you're playing your... That's the year of the seven goalies. If you're playing your 5, six, seven, you're going to look way worse in the standings than you actually are, and that was the devils last year. If you're playing your 5, six, seven, no, not defensemen, goalie.

That's right. Yeah. Think about how insane that is. They've struggled, I think, to trust Blackwood, and then sort of finally the wheels fell off last year. And they look, we have no other choice. I honestly thought that. they were going to replace the entire tandem and just say, you know what, we're going to move on from Blackwood as well.

He's been heard again this year that maybe, you know, they begin to raise that question or sound that alarm a little bit more. But Vanichek has really been solid. And I think you look at their underlying numbers. And I'm not a big nerdy stats guy that's going to sit here and pound the table and say, well, if you look at their numbers last year, had they just gotten some modicum of 900 save percentage that they would have been a playoff team, they probably would have been damn close, though, even though that's a pretty

significant gap to make up. So, you know, they have a lot of the pillars in place. You know, all of a sudden you get a year from Dougie Hamilton, too, where he looks way more comfortable. Maybe there were some issues with expectations last year. You guys would know him well watching him that, you know, maybe he struggled to adjust to having such a large contract on a team that he really didn't have a lot of help around him either. I know you have the new trade targets article up on daily faceoff.com. And interestingly, I had a couple of questions about guys, and I'm not sure I'll look at it after the show.

But a couple names I was going to throw by you regardless. We've heard this guy's name for years, it feels like, in the trade, in the rumor mill anyway, Jacob Chikrin of the Arizona Coyotes, played his first game of the season. He was injured coming in. He's back on the ice, and I just feel like it's just going to pick up steadily until we get to the trade deadline. whether or not they should.

He's still young. They drafted him as a high first round pick. It feels like Arizona you'd be hanging on to those guys. But I guess what do you see the likelihood now that he's in of a Jacob Chickren deal at some point this season? Well, they're definitely not hanging on to him. They've also pushed his buttons a bit to the point where someone that actually really liked Arizona, loves living there, and was considering and planned to be in for the long haul, all of a sudden went through this process

where he heard his name being talked about so much that he was like, screw this. I'm 24 years old. How long is it going to take for this team to be competitive? And if you don't like me, why am I committing to you? Or if you're not sure that you want to commit to me, then throw my name into the ring. Like, I want to go and play for a contending team.

And so he's made his wishes really clear to the coyotes. He's coming off of the wrist and ankle surgeries that were pretty significant. He's been banged up previously. But what stands out when you look at this board is the 18 goal season that he had in a shortened campaign a couple years ago. That plus the contract, two more years at a really manageable number, has teams salivating. But the problem is he's got the injury history for one. and two is they wonder what they're getting. Jacob Chikrin is a number one on the Arizona Coyotes,

but on a contending team, what is he? Is he an upper echelon two? Is he closer to a three? I think the real answer is, beauty's in the eye of the beholder with this one, that teams aren't really sure. You call around and ask for opinions on Jacob Chikrin in front offices, and you get varied responses.

Some teams are absolutely, absolutely in love with him, probably infatuated with the contract. Other teams are like, eh, he's a four on a really, really good team. And not to say that adding a top four defenseman is something that any team, you know, would love to do. But given the really high asking price from the Arizona Coyotes, that's what makes it a bit harder to decipher in terms of the value. It seems like a deal they wanted to have done, but there's just a gap between what Arizona wants and what everyone else is willing to pay, and then here he is swinging in the wind and another injury.

Yeah. So where do you see that gap closing? Is it the pressure of the deadline, Frank, or does Arizona have to move off their ask? I believe they have to move off of their ask short of Chickren coming out and having an absolute monster start to his season, which I think you should always allow for the possibility,

but who knows? You know, they're going to see here over the next month, And there's going to be a lot of scouts watching to understand exactly what a team might be getting. And I think you have to keep it, I can't stress enough, have to keep in mind the injury history. Another guy I was going to ask you about. And I don't want to blow up your spot. Give it away. Spoiler alert.

But I believe he's atop your trade target list was Bo Horvatt scored his 15th goal of the season. 15 and 19 games. He had 31 last year. So there it is. If you're watching on the YouTube, the top five. inside the trade target. But Horvatt, final year of his deal that pays him 5.5. He'll be a UFA. They're captain. This is centerman, captain, and what a start for for Bo Horvatt. How does this, you pay J.T. Miller. Are you not going to pay this guy? I don't know how this one goes. I don't

know exactly where Vancouver's at right now in terms of their, like they're coming down, but yet all their moves say they're competitive all the standings say they're not a hard one to figure right go ahead red does the kachuk and the godreau thing play into this at all with horvett too in what way right well just i mean i guess

godreau was unrestricted but kachuk was restricted was he not Horvats's a you he's up this summer so it's a goodro yeah he's up i guess i'm just saying well he's leaving you think so right it's comparable in the sense that he's having an absolute ridiculous contract year and that's the one thing that would tie him to johnny

godreau i would say the real difference is that throughout the entire time well at least i think in terms of conversation the flames wanted to try and bring johnny godreau back i have zero indication that that's the same with the vancouver canucks i don't think these sides have engaged in any type of conversation since well before training camp. I think the initial volley that was thrown the Bohorvat way was so, I think they found it so insulting that they were like, call us back when you're serious. Because I believe what they tabled was the Ryan Nugent Hopkins contract,

which was eight years times 5.125. And they just said, we, we think this guy is an upper $7 million Aavie. How do we even counter this? Like, how do we engage in any sort of constructive conversation? Call us back when you're serious. And to this point, the Canucks haven't. And they've watched him come out this season with 15 goals and 19 games.

There's all sorts of controversy surrounding this team with the comments and the coaching change. That's the potential that's hanging over everyone's head. It feels like constant drama there that no one really needs. So it seems to me like the Canucks picked the wrong guy to sign. They sort of buckled at the last minute in August. And instead of moving J.T. Miller last year when they had an opportunity to and there were a number of teams that were interested, they watched and were sort of mesmerized by the 99 point season that he had that he may never duplicate and sign him to a massive deal that at his age,

it expires when he's 38. they're probably going to have an incredibly hard time moving. Whereas now with Horvatt, they're in the same spot, except instead of having one additional year on his deal, he's a pending UFA. He's had a great start to the year, and they should, emphasis on should, capitalize on the market and how well he's played and get something in return,

which is what their president of hockey operations, Jim Rutherford alluded to they might. The better he plays, the more we're going to get back. Yeah, if he's going to look like a 40 goal captain top line center, he's not a $7 million play anymore. The cap's gone up. This is working out very nicely for his agent here. Like he could ask for 10. You might not get it, but you may as well ask if you're 30 to 40 goals captain center, no?

I mean, look, we all want to ask for nice things. We don't always get them. I think you have to look at statistical outlying seasons and be careful. I think teams would certainly approach it that way. But when you look at Bo Horvatt and the point production, it's not always just about that. He's really a pretty complete player and brings a lot. So I would say that this year,

you kind of push a little bit off to the side and look more towards the sort of 25 goal, 30 goal, 55 to 60 point guy that he's been consistently throughout his career and think that if you are signing him, that's the type of player that you'd be getting in terms of production. And I'm not looking to throw a good, get you to sling mud or anything, but I think it was last week or in the weeks previous, that is your assertion that maybe J.T. Miller isn't the most beloved guy in that room,

whereas you sign the guy who maybe wasn't the fan favorite in the room, and then there's your captain who's potentially walking out the door. Yeah, and dangling in the win at the same time. Like, I think ultimately wanted to be a Canuck, really liked it there, and was, I guess, probably pretty insulted if I'm reading the tea leaves correctly with how this is all played out. It's not so much going back to Chris Latang and what he went through, or sorry, Evgeny Malkin in Pittsburgh saying, hold on a second. I'm Evgeny Malkin. Why did you sign Chris Lattang first? I don't think it's so much the order, although that now Vancouver is coming

back to them saying, well, we're kind of tapped out now. This is all we can really afford to sign you at, given that we spent the money on J.T. Miller, and I think the rest of the room is looking that saying, well, hold on a second. J.T. Miller, really? Why not Bo? I know you're always up against it. We'll let you go here. Thursday, American Thanksgiving. Run me through the Sarah Valley Thursday. Oh, thank you. Yeah. Well, my one job, my one shore is to go and pick up Thanksgiving dinner because I don't cook my wife doesn't cook i don't honestly sometimes i don't even how we get through the week because

i mean i eat more dooredash than you anyone you know uh so naturally what do i do i just ordered a absolutely complete soup to nuts thanksgiving dinner turkey salad sides stuffing mashed potatoes two pies and pick it up and host 12 people and pretty much all i need to do is supply the booze favorite part of the thanksgiving meal you're hosting okay Do you like the people your host? Yeah, it's just my immediate family. It's my mom, dad, brother, sister, that whole crew, my grandparents. So yeah, it's a really small.

We'll have 12 people, so very manageable. And favorite part of the meal? I don't, I like stuffing. I'm not a, like, here's my take on Thanksgiving dinner. If it was so good, we would eat it more than once a year. Yeah, it's turkey. Fair or unfair? Yep.

It's an undertaking. You is not being you don't cook. It takes, there's some effort involved into doing a, a full turkey. Yeah, I mean, there is. And that's probably why we don't eat it more. But I don't know. My, my favorite part about Thanksgiving is, is the Wednesday night. And the fact that it's a guaranteed four-day weekend, like, I don't know what it's like in Buffalo, Rhett, but Wednesday night is annually the drunkest night of the year in Philly.

And it is just everyone's home. Your buddies from high school that went. moved away you know no one has anything to do no one schedules anything on wednesday night and it's an absolute gong show at every bar that you go yeah we used to my brother and his idiot friends that's that's what's the day they always scheduled to come in to visit was thanksgiving night before and then you wake up and you don't have to do anything except watch football all day and eat food it was the worst day of my life frank as far as a player because i got so smashed in buffalo and hardly went to bed

and I was injured. So I had to go in the next day and I woke up and I'm like, I was like, I've never been this way. I prided myself on always being able to tough it out. It didn't matter what I did to myself. And that morning I was this close

to phone in the trainer and saying you better come up with an excuse because I ain't going to make it. I was sitting over a bowl of blueberry flakes or something like that. I was almost yakking. but somehow i made it out there i got through it legend given your previous closed calls you really must have put in quite a shift that night oh it was heavy heavy heavy heavy well the

what time the bar is closed in philly they're stupid here they don't close four four and they close it four and your best friends with all the bartenders like there's no way you're going to leaving it four becomes sticks yes and then you're up at 830 to be a get the rink at nine. Good luck. Had to call a cab to get there. So you're very responsible. Look at that.

Team first guy. Frank, happy Thanksgiving. Thanks for doing this. We'll talk to you next week. Enjoy it. I need your address, Frank. I'll send it.

I'll send it. All right. See you guys. See you, Frank. The Wednesday night is the liquor. It's liquor night. It's insane.

And he says he's going to graze all day Thursday. And I'm thinking if you're out late the night before hungover. That's perfect. Just pick away, watch football, have a little nap. I was in, back up, eat some more. Oddly enough, one year, it feels like always around American Thanksgiving. The flames are in that Pittsburgh, Philadelphia area. And I think I've been there twice for American Thanksgiving, just happened to be. And Frank's not wrong. There were girls dressed to the nines, high heels, skirts, like beautiful

laying on the pavement. Laying in like puddles of water in the gutter alongside the sidewalk, outside the bar, on the pavement, asleep. Women after my heart. What a town. I mean, what a town. So yeah, I would guess you're not getting a whole lot a conference the next day.

No. Good old Frankie. Now, are we doing Ask Rhett tomorrow or third? Because you're, you're soccering potentially and your Thanksgiving and so. I've got Tommy in studio. I can't not be here tomorrow. All right.

So you've got to be here tomorrow. Tommy Wilden, Jay. Okay. Is Tommy coming in right at the start? That would be really helpful for me because I got something and I'm going to be in a tight pinch to get back here to do it. You let us know what window works for you. I can adjust with Tommy if need be.

And to be fair, kickoffs at new. And the sooner we get him out of here, the better chance you can get to where he needs to go to watch that game. Then let's have Tommy on first. Sure. Do a quick hello and then bring them in 10 minutes in, put Dean to sleep, shake him out of his coma, get him back in here. What's wrong, boom? I'm just planning so Thursday, are we doing Ask Red? We could do Ask Red right off the hop too.

I could stay home to Ask Red, do Ask Red, then I could drive to, grandmas and show the spread for two minutes and say goodbye. Okay. I like that. So there it is. Get your questions in. I see you all even during the show today. Ask Rhett at flamesnation.ca is the website.

You can hashtag it. Get your questions in for hopestreet.com. Go ahead. But we got to start at 12.30. We can't start at 1245 like we usually do or whatever. 10.45, your time. Sorry. Sabres time.

It's almost as though there's a lot of things in Rett's life that take precedence over the job. Job? We've got to start early. We've got to start on time. I can't be here on this. I don't do jobs. What else can we do?

What else can we do here for you? Well, send me one of those fancy vehicles. Is it a show too long? Is it too short? Some days yesterday was a little long. It started to drag. It could have cut it off. Yeah.

We're learning as we go. That's right. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. The key is the communication that you've been having. Yeah. And the prep pillar.

Right. And everyone bringing lots to the show, lots of things to talk about. Hey, here's, I've got a lot of things I'd like to get to today. I don't know how we get it all in. I think we're going to need a new time slot and more time. More time and all of that. A new platform. All of it.

You are bang on. Now speaking with that tomorrow. Yeah. I know. We brought up yesterday. Flames tickets, this whole thing. Well, we're going to have a little plan for these tickets going on up. Panthers on the 29th, Kachuk Bowl.

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All right, boys, we start in Philadelphia as we just caught up with Frank Serra Valley. Yes, indeed his son did score during the U8 intermission hockey, but there was other goals in a bigger game for some that happened on the ice as well. Style points be damned, the flames. One four or five since that seven games skid, gentlemen. A better night for Jacob Markstrom, another fight for new fan favorite Dennis Gilbert, and I'm sure the talk of the town in Buffalo, never mind the snow, Jake Allen, the bills, or whatever. It's got to be the junior saber defense.

Everyone here's wondering why the hell. Gilbert is not in the blue and gold. He's a local kid, and he's kicking a snort out of guys, and they miss that. They got no size on the savers. They're a bunch of softies, and they need Gilbert. Like, look out. And they've lost in a row,

so they're probably a little crankier than they were a few weeks ago. Right. Buffalo. I don't know if we've touched the game, any other takeaways. We haven't talked about Gilbert, I think, is really probably planted the seed that if Daryl Sutter needs a guy when there's an injury, i.e. Michael Stone or an absence, i.e. Oliver Shillington, that's probably his go-to guy at this juncture. It has to be,

doesn't it? 14 minutes for a DG last night. DG. Old DG gets into another scrap. And he had a fight, so he's sitting in the box for a while. And that's three fights and five games, and I think he could probably give him three check marks on the old tilts. This is Zach McHugh, who's not afraid of throwing the nuts. Watch McHugh, he's like, I'm in trouble, grabs the pants.

He's going to grab the pants. That's for the take down there. Oh, come on. It's always kind of, come on now. Watch them, watch them. Ooh, got my hands full. This guy's bigger than I thought. Pant grab her?

Oh, yeah. Grab the leg. Leg sweep. Stand in there, McEwen. But I think to me, what I'm most interested in, or I guess amaze is a little harsh, is that they have another defenseman named Dennis. Really?

It's not easy to do in 2022. Okay. They found another Dennis. Well, there was the wide dog back in the day. I know. And he listened to the show and all that sort. How many, I didn't know we were still making Dennises out there. There's not a lot of Dennises.

It's a good point. Scouting staff. There's doing a hell of a job. They're everywhere. Well, it must be in Buffalo. I've never coached a kids. What? I've never coached a kid named Dennis.

That's what I'm saying. Yeah, they're all old. It's like Dodo birds. So, I mean, this Dennis, he's got to be in his late 20s? Late 20s? Late 20s? There's a 20-year-old Dennis out there. Flames found him.

Get in there, son. Good work. Good work. Here's the rest of the road trip. They're two and one on the six gamer. Toboro in Pittsburgh, they beat the penguins in October 4 to 1. We were at that game. It was a rather sound performance.

It was, yeah. 2-0, Nazim Kodry, like eight seconds in or something hilarious. And then away they went. And then it'll be a noon Washington on Friday, which sounds crazy until you remember it's American Thanksgiving. So Friday's a write-off for sure. And then another matinee the next day in Carolina, who don't have Frederick Anderson,

but I do have the Peter Kuchukut, who's been really, really good for them. He has been. And those would be two of the tougher games on the roadie to close. And Pittsburgh isn't the team that was reeling, what, three weeks ago when we saw them last?

This is a team that's got their shit together a little more recently winning in Gino's thousandth game a couple nights ago. The thing I remember most from that game was watching their power play. Now it didn't score. Or maybe, because there was that turnover

and Malkin did, Did get a stick on that one. But watching... Malkin on the Power Play 432 at the second. Crosby, Malkin, Lattang. Yes. Hall of Famers. Probably all those guys are Hall of Famers at the end of the day. And watching them whip it around.

Jeff Carter in front if you want them, that's fine too. There's lots of guys with hardware there. Mr. Carter. Elsewhere, we could tell you that we had some big news who'd been waiting for. Calgarian and greatest defenseman ever, apparently. Kale McCar's got 200 points already, right? 200. Why not?

195 games. Why not? And you're like, that sounds good. That sounds really impressive. And then you're like, whoa, the fastest ever. Let's see the list. Like, there's got to be, you know, a lot of, you got the 200. How many games do it take for them?

Because there's some, you know, Hall of Famers and such. You've got to look closely. Zubov 207, Housley 208, Brian Leach 211, Potvin, 212, Bobior 216. All of them. You need two more months on the calendar? for Bobby Orr to catch this guy. Like all the first ballot Hall of Famers.

And I didn't realize Mark Howe was that good. Geez. Wow. That's impressive. Like slam dunk Hall of Famers. He taught them all. And he's already got. He's lap in the field here.

He's got a cup. Yes. How old is he? He's a puppy. Hall of Famer. He's in the hall. He's in the hall. Start working on the fogged glass.

Let's go. That's incredible. Other milestone, Patrice Bergeron, a thousand points, Rhett. I was thinking about it. You probably, and yeah, by the way, that's Charlie McAvoy when he had his first point. Charlie's not like young. Charlie's like in his mid-20s.

That's crazy. How many times did he play against Patrice? I was thinking you had to have a fair amount. I don't know. And he'd be like a 200-foot guy. He might not notice him, but like he was around. And we'd have only played. We had that weird scheduling.

Once a year. Because didn't he come in, if I recall correct, about Patrice Bergeron. He was a second round pick. He came in and roughly around one of those lockouts. He won a men's world championship before a world junior championship. That's right. Yeah, crazy.

Because of how the schedule worked and everything. Triple gold guy, for sure. Never played a game outside of the N8, never went like through. He made the team right after the draft, didn't play in the HL, stepped right in. And it was like, this is a pretty good second round pick here for Boston. Yeah. Him and O'Reilly's a few guys are like, how are these second around?

I was like, yeah, you know, we don't love this about him. And then it's just like right away into the NHL and like on a path to you're like, yeah, he's going to be one of the best two-way centers of all time. Crazy. Impressive stuff for the Bruins who, oh, by the way, just won again. That's seven in a row for the wheeled B. Yeah, I hope you took the over on those horrible point totals. Oh, they're going to be hurt all year.

Yeah, maybe 90 points for the Bruns. I'm 90 by Christmas. We'll move along to You want winning streak? How are the Devils at 13 now? They beat Edmonton last night. That's a shame. Nine and O against Canadian teams on this run of 13 in a row.

They've done a lot of good work against our nation. If you look there, Canucks, Oilers, Flames, Flames, Sends, Habs, Leif, sends. Oilers last night and Leifes tomorrow, who by the way will be missing a significant part. Morgan Riley joins T.J. Brody and Jake Muzzin. and I'm hurt for a while category. That's three significant pieces in the Leaves Blue Line.

And Frank Saravale and others connecting the Chickren on the block. Leif's three significant defenders gone. Keep an eye on that one. Another winning streak to note, Blues win again. What a roller coaster season. Imagine our show if it was the Blues results. So they start out with three wins in a row. They lose eight in a row and they've won seven in a row.

that's an NHL record for consecutive wins after a losing streak of eight or more. Lost eight, one seven. No. Consistent. It's a roller coaster. I don't know how we'd handle it. We would have been just like they're the worst team. They're the best team.

They're like just back and forth. We go. Well, Rhett would have traded everybody. Yes, correct. Yeah. Yeah, we'd have had many trades. Yeah. If someone shows them the GM money, then trades will happen.

Someone shows me that GM money. That's right. Two games tonight, boys. Your Sabres ret in Montreal to face the Habs. A couple of teams that see themselves as plucky Atlantic contenders that... Wait, neighbors are struggling. Sabers have lost eight in a row. Rob Ray was...

When Rob Ray was not excited about the travel, had to go to Toronto on Friday in the snowstorm. Then they got stuck there and had to bus home Sunday morning after the roads reopened. Got home for 24 and had to fly to... Montreal. It makes no sense. They moved a whole NFL game and the Sabres were too stupid to figure out. Let's just stay up in Canada and go straight to Montreal.

It makes a lot of sense. No, it's not to do that. Other action is Kings hosting the Rangers. So those are two for tonight. We'll get more on those from our Betway bets of the day coming up later. Monday Night Football was in Mexico City last night, fellas. They were fired up at Azteca. Hundreds of thousands of people or at least.

Pags of piss for a lot. Get fired up, hey? Yeah, Jimmy G. Not unlike Tom Brady and Munich, complimentary of the fans, the atmosphere saying, yeah, there's quite a buzz in there.

That didn't feel like a regular season game in the NFL and in the USA. Well done. That's a huge bleeping stadium, dude. You ever get, you ever been there? No, God, no. It's at altitude in Mexico City

and you get bags of piss thrown at you. Any plans? I'd love to go to Mexico City. And if I was there, maybe. You don't need to go. I'd go if I was there. There's certain sections that are safer than others. You've got to know the, where do I sit?

Where do I not sit? Typically the caged off visitors section with the bar bar bar on the top. They throw the piss at it and then it opens on the bar wire. And then it's just raining piss. And you're like, why did I do this? I could have just worn the other colors and sat somewhere nice. Yeah. I do the same, I guess.

If I had bags of piss on me, I would. Why am I doing this? Because if I throw it, Yeah. And there's no cage. It may just bounce off or something, depending on the strength of the bag. But the barb wire, it's definitely going to cut the bag. Yeah.

And I'm like, is this for the visitors or this for the piss throwers? Like, who are we really helping here with the barbler? Yeah. The piss in a wide spray format and formation. It feels like it's a home team advantage. It is. It doesn't seem fair. Here's the little CFL news sticking with football.

By the way, the Niners absolutely rolled. Jimmy G. loves Mexican food, I guess. Something. That bless the Spaniel, me too. Yeah. That's great. He was fantastic. We had nachos for dinner last night.

Four touchdowns. Nachos Mexican? Yeah. That's not Mexican at all, but it sounds delicious. Thanks. It was good, yeah. And remember Hinoch, Hinoch, Moamba, the MVP of the Grey Cup? Try that again.

You had a little time with the Grey Cup last night as he took in the Leafs. Not good for him. And Islanders. You know what? What a great guy. Look at this. Everyone taking photos in Toronto pretending they like the sea. This is fucking cute.

Oh, wow. Look, it's the Great Cup, I think. That's nice. You can see what it meant to. Isn't that for senior hockey? No, it's the Allen Cup. I think that's for the CFO. Oh, well, let's get a pitcher anyway.

You hate this. No, I'm saying people in Toronto. Where's the guy that goes around with the Great Cup, like the Stanley Cup. Where is that dude with the shitbox fan? It's Toronto. So no one knows. They think it's a science project for some art class.

I don't know. World Cup, already a couple shockers. underway. Argentina falls to Saudi Arabia. What? Argentinians only Brazil. Smaller odds to win. Now it's one game but it ends a 36 game run

where they hadn't lost. And Messi scored. It's not his fault. A couple offside goals. This was the 3 a.m. kickoff. I have to say I missed most of all. Yeah, I missed it all. 3 a.m. 36 games. Now, how often does they play this tournament? Well, there's a lot of

qualifying that leads up to it and that's what they be referencing. South America would all play and that's a lot of games against Brazil, Colombia, some really good sides there. They've been on great

and it's the best the national teams looked to when Messi's played for it. It's his last World Cup, he said, and they were very, very heavy favorites outside of anyone named Brazil.

So not the great start they were looking for. They'll be fine, I'm sure. And then the next one was a Denmark. The people who invented Lego Rett,

Lego and yeast and other things. scoreless draw with Tunisia. Yeah. Carlsberg, yeast. Apparently very famous. What's that, Red?

Yeesh. I don't know if they invented. Yeast. Carlsberg yeast. It's a very famous thing. Yeast! There's other games. Mexico and Poland.

We can get you a live update. I know you're dying, Dean. I'm fucking dying, all right. Yeah, that sounds about accurate. Sitting here dying. Yeah, I hope you'll make it. Zero, zero, final. Another nil-nil-nil.

Two scoreless games. There's only one scoreless game lost World Cup, So they've, scoreless game. Yeah. Only one last one last one. Hard to believe. Two already three days in.

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What more reason do you need to go and visit the good people at Village? Look at that. And Anthony was tense yesterday. I guess. Hill, nil late for the Netherlands. Yeah. A couple of goals. nice on the box score, but he might have shaved a decade off his life expectancy,

watching them go draw, looking at a draw against the hell of the never plan. I don't remember. Anyway, scary stuff. VillageHonda.com is the website. Go and check that out. And this says, about until the money's gone. It's not an unjust huge pot of cash forever. Yeah.

It's two million. Two million's gone. Senegal. Your ass so well. That's amazing. There was a video from the football game last. night, the Mother Night football game, Arizona, San Francisco. You said they're excited and they get into it and that.

This was, is this a celebrity? Do we know who this gentleman is? My guess is that in the States, there's all these different ESPNs, and one is in Spanish. ESPN Deportes, I think is something like that. And they have famous Spanish-American announcers and the people that would probably normally call football games in Spanish. We're in Mexico City and very excited to be there. And not unlike the Rock at the Super Bowl or at the season.

an opener in LA against. It was the bills. It was like hypeman routine before the game started and the stadium was going nuts. Let's see it. On Espion de Portes. I don't know. There's no video. No video. Okay. We don't have that. Let's do the Betway bets of the day.

Two games. That's it in the NHL. Two games. Ret, why don't you start us off? Yes, Rhett. Well, it's going to be a big night in Montreal. I think the sabers are due for a victory, so I'm going to go sabers over a haves. What's that paying? It's got to be a lot because the sabers suck.

I'll start with my bets of the day. If you're ready, that'd be great. I can throw that in there. You're right, right. The Buffalo Sabres, they have, how many have they lost? Eight. Eight in a row. That's not good.

They are in Montreal. And the habs, I mean, they're not world beaters right now either necessarily, but they are at home against this. Sabres team. Give me the Canadia victoire in regulation plus 130. I'm looking. It's up to plus 135

right now, so bonus money. Get on it. And Cole Coffield. Had a great start to the season. Continues to roll. I think you had a couple the other night. Anytime goal, plus 120. Same game. Get them in there. Those are my bets of the day. Okay. I'm sticking with the same game. I'm on the other side. I'm with Rhett.

Sabres are due. Habs haven't been that great at home and Tage Thompson's been a monster. I'm going to go two plus points for Tage paying plus 200. It's a big number, but he's been great of late. Give it a shot. And the Sabres power play goal. Why not? Give it a go. Habs penalty kill

81% fine. Not world beating. Solid. But I'm looking for a bit of a Sabres. Bounce back to respectability after the eight game skid. Goaltending's been awful. Like their numbers have been fine. They've had awful goaltending for these eight games.

Commer got hurt. Gets too hard. They called up that Ukopeca, Locoliki. Okapeka, Lukinen. Yeah, like you are. Yeah. They get you in there.

Him and a 42-year-old in that. Yeah, weird how Anderson hasn't been the answer. Stunner. It's, or it's like maybe he is the answer, but the question is how do we get Connor Bernard? That's true.

There's some bad teams. I was looking this. Yeah, ducks are awful. The ducks last night, they lose to St. Louis. Terrible? The ducks have not. won in regulation.

19 games. Not a single regulation victory. Are you serious? The record, they're one away from the record in the 99,000 season. The Flames went 20 games without a regulation win in the Brian Sutter, Rich Preston, Al Coats. They all, I think they beat us. I think they were all, uh, they beat you guys for the first regulation.

I can't remember if it was that one where they were terrible at the same. start and they couldn't win or if they were really good and turk was on a roll and they won a whole bunch at the start of the year well you know i think yeah because i think you're right uh inconsist it took the flames 20 games to win their first regulation win in regulation time how's the rest of the 60 that's just pain they ended up winning 10 games in overtime that year which also set a a record at at that point in time to win 10 in overtime not nice when you don't have a win in regulation in your first 20. So back to the Bedard.

Yeah. Imagine him sitting in Anaheim with Zegris. Unreal. And remember, like they were at a crossroads last year, and it was, are we re-uping Ricard Raquel, Recky Racks at big money? Are we going to re-up Hempus Lindholm at big money? We've watched John Gibson do the slow decline here.

Pavrebeek, the new GM was at a point where it's like, okay, I'm going to pay these guys or I'm not. I'm not losing them for nothing. And he liquidated both guys. So how can you think you're better without those two? That's a top six four and a top four defenseman. They're absolutely worse off. Now they go sign Klimberg going to one year deal,

but they're going to spin him off at the deadline. They're not good. And to your point, that's kind of, I guess, embracing the rebuild, if you will. We always have that conversation feels like every year here. What are you going to do? Because there's some keep him, trade them. What do you extend them?

that sort of thing. And the hampus Lindholm, I think, was a bit of a surprise. He'd been there for his entire career. Good player. You just keep him. You bring it back. No, he's out. First and a player, Boston then immediately extends him, what, what, six and a halfish? Yeah. So last place is the ducks. Second last, we were told by Pierre Dorian that Pierre Dorian thinks the rebuild is over. It may be, but they're going to need a really good final 63 games or so. 13 points in 18 games. Buffalo's down there. Where you don't want

Connor Bardard is probably a 5,000 seat arena. Arizona's 29th in the NHL. And then it's Vancouver, Chicago, Columbus. Vancouver. Another guy on... Where does the league want them? I think you'd probably want them in Chicago with cane going out, wouldn't you?

Huge revenue market star arrives. Or do you think that they'll take care of themselves? We got to get them into Arizona? No. Oh, God, no. 5,000-seat arena? Well, I mean, maybe it gets them tempi. They have to get the new rink done.

If they think, look, we don't, I'm not suggesting the draft lottery is rig, but you're asking the best place for him to go. If a guy like him arriving in the market gets a rink done, like Sid to Pittsburgh got that new rink done, that absolutely is the best place from it. If it's not going to work there and they've got to move the team, send him to Chicago. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like Chicago.

You're an original 16. 22,000 seats. huge revenue. He'd be an absolute money printing machine there. Kane going to get dealt? Yeah. He was on Frank's board there. We didn't get into it.

We'll have lots of time to talk about it. If they don't, I just don't get it. For him or for the team. Every year there's guys that move at the deadline, and you wonder, how much time do they have? Are they really going to fit in? Is there a situation where Patrick Kane is dealt to a team and he doesn't come in and make a huge difference?

I still an elite offensive player. Not a chance. Yeah. Right. And I could see him saying, I want to be here. I want to be a career hawk. But like, where are the pieces they're building around? Like, they traded a first to get Seth Jones.

Seth Jones doesn't look like a top pair guy. Doc, they just sent out. De Brinket? Like, it's De Brinket just left. And there was team control left there. And they go and they love this guy. They trade up to go get Kevin Korninski playing in the Western League. And it's like, yeah, he might be a good.

like offensive defense. He might be Shattonkirk, but it's not like you're bringing in Victor Hedman here. Because he's back to last year. There's nothing to build around here. Claude Drew moves to Florida at the deadline. It was okay, right? But Patrick Kane is still one of the most skilled guys in the planet.

What kind of a haul could they get for him? Now, again, it comes down to how much space, how do you make it work, all of that? But if there is a team that's, on the cusp. You had that guy? Yeah. So he's 10.5 million.

There's usually about a third of salary left in the year. So let's call him a $4 million player for argument's sake. You send him to Arizona after you eat half. And all of a sudden it's like, yeah, it's peanuts. It's squeeze him in for a million bucks a half space. Don't go to Edmonton. Don't go to Edmonton. You already got a cane.

Don't go to Edmonton. New York, Panarin, Zabinajad, cane. That'd be fun. They got caco. They got Lafranier. They got some assets there. You can swap out. Don't need your picks if you need to work in.

Every team that's close is going to want them, though, aren't they? Like, who's not in that? And it's that, if you think you have a chance is. Totally. And that's why they should get a haul, right? And it's going to take a lot. The two fold, we want them, and we sure as hell don't want them to have them.

Yeah. And the biggest variable at all is that Kane controls the whole process. And it feels like he'll just tell Chicago where he wants to go, rather than be like, oh, get what you can get for you and I'll go anywhere. where do you want to be, Pat? And if the team getting them thinks they can extend them, they're only going to get more in trade, the Blackhawks. Go back to Buffalo?

Not yet. Calgary? Too soon. How would he and Daryl get along? They wouldn't trade? If he ever said I could have Calgary. I don't think that Calgary, well, we'll see, I guess, if they're waiting until the deadline to see where Calgary's at.

But are they a front runner for the cop? Like, if you're Patrick Kane, you're only going because he want to win a Stanley Cup and he liked the city. I don't think he's got Calgary circled as either. Not right now. No, he might have been the off season and he may again at the deadline. And it sounds like one of those kind of come on as if the only thing is you know Trilliving will be in there like a dirty shirt to see if he can do it because he's in on it. He just, that's him. And it's one of those things where it feels like the awkward parties, Chicago's not shopping them. They're talking or thinking about approaching Patrick about what would you like us to do? And I don't get this is going to be a shopping

scenario so much as like, find it's a place you like where you think there's a chance you're resign and we'll do the rest. I don't think this is going to have like six teams competing. That's not what they want to do here. It's going to do it for the show, boys. That's it for today. How was it, Rhett? I'm starving. I'm glad it's over.

What are you going to eat? It was great. I'm making soup because I got the sickness in the house, so I got a big bowl of soup. What kind of soup? Chicken noodle. Are we whipping this right? Like if we got bones, we're doing the full stock right from...

Bones are boiling as we speak. You got some boiling bones going on in there? You're boiling up the bones? Good for you. What are you putting in there? Beyond that, obviously, your carrots and your celery and your onion and... Carrots, celery, onion, but I also... I do a tea ball.

Not a tea bag. A tea ball. I was going to say. With big chunks of garts. of garlic and rosemary and thyme. Just put that in there while it boils up. I understand what he's talking about now. So you put it like in a like a, it's like in the cage.

A gauze bag or something like that. And then you take her out. It's a t-ball. It's a metal ball. Metal cage, yeah. Bags. All right. I'm done. Enjoy that France, Australia match this afternoon, right?

Socceroose. Is that who's playing this? That's okay. I can watch. that. I got to run practice tonight because Colletta went to Ireland. What kind of coach just pisses off in the middle of the year? It's thirsty.

So what are we doing? What kind of drills are we doing? I'm going to bag the piss out of them. They only have one practice this week and it's today so they're going to get it. Skate. Yeah. Just edge work. No pucks. Hello, boys. No pucks today, boys.

Yeah, I'm going to your old Bob Hartley Mountain Climers all practice. I actually thought about introducing a couple mountain climbers at the end of the practice. Bob is so well regarded. You just slow down the outsides and then as soon as you turn to the middle, you have to sprint down the middle,

but you do it for like 10 minutes. Sprint. Slow on the outside. Sprint. We've been running. Nothing. And after three minutes, it's like, we've been doing the relays,

full ice at the end of practice. They have this like 15 minutes stagger where you get the full ice at the end. And it's like those kids are just leaking by the end. It's good. Kids. All right, buddies, thanks for being a part of the show. Huh? Probably eat.

My wife gets home. I got to go build the house again. It's been ruined since she left. Because remember we were saying yesterday about how. It's anywhere you got to get home, get everything. There's a lot of laundry strewn everywhere. Dishes all over. How much life is better without her here.

That's an odd interpretation of what I did say. Life is way, way better. I can't read. I should, I just thought I wrote. it down yesterday. I can't remember what you were saying. I'm glad you doubled down on it. Tommy Wheelden Jr. Tell us about Tommy. Tommy, Tommy coming in studio. Is that what we got going on? Tommy's in studio to help tee up Canada's first match

of the World Cup against Belgium, the number two ranked team in the world. And Tommy's got some firsthand coaching experience with some of these young stars. Belgium's number two? Yeah, their first two opponents are finalists and semi-finalists in the last World Cup or Euro. Sorry, Red. It's all right. They're missing Lukaku. So there you go. Yeah, that's right. That's what I've told earlier. It's going to do it for the show today.

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