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Episode Date: November 25, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:13 Well, hello. Welcome to another edition of the Barnburner podcast, Ryan Pinder alongside Rhett Warner and Black Square. We have a Black Square. That means no boomer today. He's been Black Squared, Rhett. How are you? He should be suspended.
Starting point is 00:00:31 He should have the Black Square. Yes, that's right. We should have the black square. When we need it, it's just black. Throw it up there. Cover him up. Now, we checked in with you yesterday from Buffalo. happy Thanksgiving to you yesterday.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You missed a lot of the show. We had Rob Kerr in studio, which was a ton of fun. I kind of got the, hey, Kerr might drop by maybe. And then it was like, oh my God, that's 45 minutes of Kerr where he could have gone all day. You can just hand it off to Kerr. It was a bit of a handoff.
Starting point is 00:01:01 So we didn't have any games in the NHL last night, but we still got lots to talk about from Wednesday in the Pinder Report. We bets of the day as well as we got to get our NFL picks in for the weekend. but before anything, welcome to the Tower Chrysler Dodge Studios here in Mardaloupe. Retro, you're missing out here. I tell you, if you're in town, you'd be seeing the nation truck and the nation Jeep rolling all around. And I want to ask listeners, hey, if you see the trucks, take a photo, hashtag nation truck, hashtag nation Jeep. And, yeah, we'll be able to see where you're spotting us around town.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I've got a kid hockey tournament this weekend, so it'll be parked at the Flames Community Arena for most of the weekend. So that's what I'm looking at. But let's get to here yesterday. How was the hangover? How was the food? And how was Turkey Day in the USA yesterday? Turkey Day was excellent. You got a slight glimpse, anyone that was watching on the YouTube.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So that was, I don't know if that was good or bad or ugly, probably all of the above. I just put on the, in the chat there, easily 8,000 calories yesterday. It was an 8,000 calorie day. So what's a normal day for a normal human? Like two or like, am I off? I don't know even what that means. I think two is kind of what you'd like. Most of us are probably over that, $2,500.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Okay. I tripled it for sure. Three or four days worth of food in one sitting. Oh, yeah. When you played, you would have been a furnace. Like you, and I know you, like metabolism for pro athletes is totally different because you're, you know, huge workouts every single day, if not a couple. Would that be like $8,000?
Starting point is 00:02:42 Would it be a game day in your prime in terms of how much you could eat? Or is it still more than that? So eight has never been a problem. Funny story. We're in Buffalo and Doug McKenney's our trainer. And I'm injured. And he's trying to say, I want you on a 1,800 calorie a day diet while training to get back in shape to play. in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:03:10 So we're talking, I'm skating. I'm biking on those stupid Airdine bikes, which just kill you. And then I'm doing workouts and physio. And 1,800 calories. Like that's a big Mac, right? So anyway, he's got the little gadget where you go, if you wake up in the morning
Starting point is 00:03:31 and you just stick it in your mouth and you breathe into it for like five or 10 minutes. And your basal metabolic rate or something like, So basically what you would burn if you sat on the couch and didn't move all day. Yep. And I was at 3,500. So he's giving you half of what you were going away. He's like, no way.
Starting point is 00:03:50 Yeah. And so he's like, no way that can't be right. I'm like, it's your machine and you're trying to kill me, 1,800 calories. Get out of here. Yeah. I used to 8,000 easy. Jeez. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I think like honestly, that's probably one of the biggest adjustments for guys when they retire is like you can't just go eat the same meals you're not the furnace you used to be like and sometimes you see those guys blow up a bit and wait the first three or four years after they retire because it's like whoa i got to figure this out this is not working anymore yeah guys are better now Brendan Morrison and sand and there's a lot of guys that do a better job of taking care of themselves some of us older old school fellas we yeah we struggle with the fluctuation uh all right so it's a flames game there today go ahead well it's is a game on yet? No, at noon. So we're live on YouTube here from the Tower Studios and literally we'll
Starting point is 00:04:44 end the show and within 20 minutes the puck will be dropped in Washington. It is game five of the six game road trip. It is the first of a back to back that closes the road trip. Noon today, 2 p.m. Carolina tomorrow. There's no morning skates. It's play, play, go away. And they're back home for the Kachuk Bowl on Tuesday. Thus far on the road trip, flames 2-1 and 1. Not bad. That's 5. of a possible eight points to this point. And Washington really, really dinged up also struggling, those two things probably related. Just looking at significant players hurt for them.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Backstrom, Tom Wilson, Connor Brown, Hagland's hurt. Demetri Orlov on the back end is out. And so you've got Strom centering a line with Shiri and Ovechkin. That's not what you're used to in Washington. Now they've still got some weapons. It's a team in the NHL, which means you don't get any points for showing up.
Starting point is 00:05:38 You've got to actually work, but this is not the caps we were used to seeing over the last half decade or decade here. It feels like a team you better go out and beach because if you don't, you probably feel like you give one away. And you got Carolina Tomorrow, and that's a team that does play with structure that is expected to be at the top of the standings.
Starting point is 00:05:57 I mean, it seems like them are Jersey and the Metro. It's just those are the two best teams we think at this juncture. And the standings reflect that. Certainly New Jersey is a bit of surprise. is no one would be surprised if you said Carolina is going to win that division ahead of the season. It'd be like, yeah, it sort of feels about right. So get these points here if you can. And all of a sudden you're in a spot to have a really good road trip.
Starting point is 00:06:16 If you win today, that's not granted at all. But if you did, you'd have seven points on the road trip. That'd be pretty tidy with a game left. And if you came home three, two, and one, it wouldn't be, you know, a Picasso, but you'd take that. Over 500. If they get a point today, they guarantee at least a mark of 500 on the roadie, but aim higher boys. You got a chance here to make this a really good trip. And remember, the context of the trip was they had a seven game losing skid before that two games they won at home and then came out. So it was to stabilize and start looking more like a setter team's got to be a priority at this point.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Wow, and all those things that we needed to happen have seemed to start it. Secondary scoring. Hubert O's on getting on the score sheet. Markster made a big save at the end of one game. So hopefully, and you're right, win today because Carolina is no, couldn't be easy, but if you come back, three, two, and one, you'd be happy enough with that. Yeah, for sure. So take care of business in two games of two days, two afternoons.
Starting point is 00:07:20 It's a little unusual here. We've got World Cup going on. We've got hockey going on. They're playing afternoon on Saturday. Is it England, USA? Yes, that'd be a big one in your neck of the woods. How's the level? Has Buffalo been overcome with World Cup fever or is it maybe just a small outbreak?
Starting point is 00:07:38 The nerd cousins yesterday were all talking about it. They showed me some bicycle goal yesterday. Yeah, the Brazilian. Yeah. But yeah. So lots of people, there's a couple of the cousins had it on their phone. They're watching while the Bill's game was on the big screen.
Starting point is 00:07:52 So they're into it. I don't know. I think it would be big down here. I think they're pretty critical of their squad. I think is what I've noticed. They haven't maybe performed like the Americans would like. It's probably not a lot of sports that USA participates in where it's like, yeah, we're probably about 15th to 20th in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:13 It's not really what Americans are used to, right? We're number one. Right. We're number one is, yeah, kind of. That'll be a good one. England, obviously, the huge name brand international country, a lot of people grew up cheering for them or whatever. Everyone has family.
Starting point is 00:08:29 that, you know, England always gets lots eyeballs in North America and the Americans what, after a draw with whales. So we'll see. That's this afternoon as well. Tell me about yesterday, food, football, and your bills, I mean, it's not pretty. It's not easy, but they have strung some wins together here. You know, you're sitting with a bunch of buffaloons yesterday. And it was actually quite amazing from, let's call it a month ago. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 When there was a lot of swagger, a lot of confidence, a lot of, yeah, we're the best. And I'm talking from the general public, the general fans. So yesterday you're sitting with relatives who are all Bill's fans. And it had turned from, yeah, we're really good. What a great team to, yeah, they're the bills. They'll screw it up. they're doing it again. They're going to break our hearts.
Starting point is 00:09:29 The confidence level went from as high as I've ever seen it to write back to that's the bills and we're Buffalo and S is going to happen to us and Alan's going to throw an interception. You know, right? It's like, you're soliloquy. And then I was like. From that loss to the Vikings when you were driving home, probably in the bag,
Starting point is 00:09:51 missing the end of the game where they cough it up, then tie it up and then losing overtime. I feel like you summed it up perfectly. And it's why I think it's so hard in the NFL especially to be like, hey, who's going to win the Super Bowl at week six? Because you're like, well, people are going to get really hurt. Like Vaughn Miller's hurt for the bills. He left yesterday's game.
Starting point is 00:10:11 They don't know. Like, is he done for the year? Is it weeks? Will he be ready for the playoffs? You know, Josh Allen with a healthy arm, I think this team looks a lot different. There was a lot of throws that they were talking about missing low and that's part of playing through this issue.
Starting point is 00:10:23 that he's got. And that was the thing when I sat back and thought about the game and I'm no NFL expert, but that's a gutsy win actually, as opposed to a sloppy, man, you guys should, you know, Detroit's playing better.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Yep. Last week you have the snowstorm. You have to change gears completely. You lose practice days. It's an S show. It's a disaster. You come home for a couple days. Play on a short week.
Starting point is 00:10:52 It's Thanksgiving. You got guys injured left and right all over the team, like big players, important pieces, and you still got out a win? As a, you know, you really should think this is a glass half full situation. Now you got 10 days for guys to hopefully heal up. Who knows how serious some of the injuries are. But if they are healthy, they're going to be hard to beat.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah. And I think when we, like, it's totally that. Like, I remember two weeks ago, they had that loss. and you're in a three-way tie with Miami and the Jets. Like, what the hell's happening here? And I get that, but it's probably best that they're going through this now. I don't know exactly what's up with Alan in terms of when he's expected to be 100 or if that's this year. But you'd think he's probably in a better spot to start the playoffs than he is right now.
Starting point is 00:11:40 And they're still winning while they're having these issues of, you know, the second half's haven't been good. The turnovers have been a little too plentiful from the quarterback. It feels like a good time to be going through this if you have to. And it's the NFL. It seems like every team has a little mini dip like this. Philly just lost to what Washington and barely got a win last week like they were 8-0 and everyone's thinking they're going to have a perfect season no of course they aren't it's the NFL no and it's it is a tough and I even the play calling for the bills when it got desperate like
Starting point is 00:12:07 they hadn't run Allen on a designed run for weeks probably for the better yeah for the better they're trying to protect them and that's good but they're like we can't we can't well they couldn't generate anything off the rush anyway. So they were like, let's have some, they put them at risk because they knew they needed to win that game. Yeah. They put them at risk because they knew they needed the game and they said, we got to win this. And they'll get 10 days to heal up. The important thing is when you lose that game, oh boy.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Now the screws are really tight. So real quick. You can't, you can't. You can't. You can't turn the TV off. No, no, that's true. Like early in the years, they're blowing teams out. Now it's like, holy, you've got to watch till the end.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Yeah. It's New England next Thursday. That's who they have. So it's Thursday, they're the Thursday game, which is actually a rare, looking like a good Thursday game. But then they'll have 10 days. It feels like if you can gut out one more, whether it's pretty or ugly, then you got a window.
Starting point is 00:13:07 It's like a mini buy almost to not play for 10 days ahead of this home stretch coming in. They should win that division. Miami obviously is going to have something to say with that. Not about the football, though. Tell us about Nona's cooking. what were the hits, what were the misses, walk us through the power rankings of the Thanksgiving grub yesterday. I mean, we flashed the Bonton logo earlier. Bonton saved the snow's Thanksgiving here in Calgary, but what saved Nona's Thanksgiving? What was top of the, top of the charts?
Starting point is 00:13:33 I wonder if Greg, you know, I was thinking about it after I told that story about the hot tub. I wonder if, because I know Greg sits into the hot tub every morning. I wonder maybe he just tossed it in Rattop, too, maybe that's his seat. I don't think that's how he does things there. I mean, You could swing by up in Crowfoot there. Since 1921, I don't know they've been using hot tubs to thaw turkeys. I feel like that that was you turkeys, hammered for three days. Well, if you ever need to, Greg, you can use it.
Starting point is 00:14:01 The winners was, I think the winner yesterday was my gravy. Really? I made the gravy. Then it was phenomenal. So how much gravy? You said you had 30, 40 people? Like, that's a vat. Oh, like, well.
Starting point is 00:14:18 it was about the size of that it was massive i got there's a lot of gravy all right so the graves see yeah i love the food but like the the linguine was excellent too the linguine homemade and noodle it's really good really good turkey was turkey was turkey yeah it's turkey here and or there the one thing that this this family fails in is their stuffing there's only a couple of people that eat it it's not something they it's not a big and I think actually Nona makes it specifically just because she knows I like it okay but they don't put a lot of effort into it now solid it's good but there's a I love to me stuffing is as important as gravy and the rest of it like I put a lot of effort
Starting point is 00:15:09 into it so next year or even at Christmas I think I'm gonna have to take over the stuffing okay uh was that and I feel like stuffing is one of those where it's you can't just half ass a stuffing and it could be the if it's done well it's the best part of Thanksgiving but it's also if it's done Shabbler you want no part of it yeah so
Starting point is 00:15:31 but you know what I'm getting old it's giving me heartburn I don't know what it is every time I have the stuffing bread maybe so we here in town we stop by the turkey bowl at Cowboys our buddy Colin from iconic who we know from the good old days it's
Starting point is 00:15:49 got there that event back up and running. They raised a ton of dough for kids sport, Calgary again. And we had the Wolverine, even Mr. Mulberg, boom, boom, made an appearance in public, which is, it's new dean. He was, people are like, oh, this is, yeah, he's out again. Hey, look at this.
Starting point is 00:16:05 I saw you guys for texting. I'm like, what are those guys up to? They're going somewhere? What is this? Mm-hmm. So we caught a bunch of the first two games. And then the Wolverine and his better half are in town, snooping around.
Starting point is 00:16:18 She's in town. so we had to show them around a little bit. So, you know, how it goes. Stop here, stop there. I got a question. Foggy this morning. Or yeah, that's fine. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:16:31 You get to sleep in now. So with the boom boom, you know how he gets really pissy when you or take a day off or I take a day off? It's cranking, yep. Talks about the walking sticks. Like, can we, is it, can you give it back to him or is it?
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'm just happy he's got a little time. Honestly, I feel like, but that's just it. You and I were like, yeah, take it down. That's right. Good for you. Way to go. Yeah. And it's like, you know, we're going to do 200 of these a year.
Starting point is 00:16:58 So if he's gone for a couple, that's probably good for him. And people can survive that. We'll be okay. And you've always said, like, look, four-day work week. This is, you know, less sometimes could be more. If you're in a better mood only working four days, maybe that's the move, huh? I think it's brilliant. It's common.
Starting point is 00:17:17 school all the above. Honestly, like today, P.E. Day for the kids. They've had two full weeks all year. That's it. There's always been a holiday. All year? Two full weeks. Two five-day school weeks. Like, we're almost in December. We've had lots off lately, but not as much as we did in Canada. So I hope everyone had a Great American Thanksgiving.
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Starting point is 00:19:09 If you're listening, and this is like on Apple or Spotify or Amazon or wherever you listen to your podcast, you might know the result. The game may indeed be over, but here live on YouTube, were less than an hour, well, probably an hour from puck drop here. Washington will flash the lines really quickly. They have not been healthy nor that good this year.
Starting point is 00:19:28 And there's a few familiar names in there that you're like, yeah, okay, they're still good. But this certainly isn't a wrecking ball. The standings would reflect that as well. As for the flames, I wouldn't expect any change with the lines. They've kind of settled. I like that cadre, Mangapani Dubay trio back together. Huberto is sort of whether it's the best spot for them or not. He's finding success with Backland and Coleman and Rojeechik up top with Lindholm and Tofoli.
Starting point is 00:19:53 It's gone a little cooler of late, but really impressive start to this road trip. And I don't expect much change there. Your fourth liners are your fourth liners. That's Lucchich, Rooney now, and Lewis, because Richie's dinged up. Way better that way. Yeah, you're right. Like, we argued about it a little bit earlier this week or maybe even last week, where Hubert O has to play with Lindholm or this.
Starting point is 00:20:16 I think it was less about that and more about put your best three lines together. Yeah, make three lines. Or three solid lines. Take your top nine forwards and play them together. Yeah. And to be fair, Rizizka's played his way into that top nine. So it doesn't necessarily feel as short as it did out of the gates when he was a healthy scratch for what, nine of the first 10 games, I believe. So that's at noon.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Game tomorrow is two against Carolina. That's four Sabres time, I believe, right? So hopefully you can catch a piece of that one. Let's get to some of the action from around the league. We had trades, a couple trades two days ago. Wednesday was 15 games, two trades as well. I don't know if you've seen what's happened to the Leafs Blue Line. Completely ravaged by injury.
Starting point is 00:21:01 Muzzin out, Brody out, and now Morgan Riley out. So they go and find, we're going to bring in a defenseman. What is it? Connor Timmons comes in from Arizona. He was added in the Darcy Kemper Swap by the coyotes a year prior to, you No, Kemper left in the cup with the Colorado Avalanche, who the flames will actually see tonight, Kemper. Here's the problem they had with Timmons.
Starting point is 00:21:22 They couldn't get him ice time. They knew he wouldn't clear waivers. And yeah, so now he joins the Leafs Blue Line, which that'll help, I guess. We'll see he was a very highly touted guy. I don't know that he's that anymore, but they need bodies in a bad way. So that's one trade. And the other one, toughest guy in the league, Rhett. Who is it?
Starting point is 00:21:42 Who's the guy you wouldn't want to scrap that hands down would just, mop the floor with you. Aside from the big luch? Aside from the big luch. Luchador has to, he's got to be up there. The DeLorey guy fights a tonne. Reeves. Isn't there a big?
Starting point is 00:21:58 Okay. Look at this. Ryan Reeves sent to Minnesota. This is his Instagram photo. That's, I believe, Marcus Felino, who kind of got some Rett Warner vibes there with that hair flying. And he said, I might delete this. Now that it's his teammate there that he's laying a licking on.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The Wild, go get to, uh, arguably the toughest guy in the league. Any thoughts on that? I like Reeves. I like Reeves because when Reeves played in Vegas, he beat the Winnipeg Jets himself. And then where was he the next year? Was he still?
Starting point is 00:22:37 He went to the Rangers after that. Yeah. Yeah, he didn't have, he got dummied by Suban there, didn't he? Get wiped out by PK and hit his head or something, cheap shot? I remember not. what happened in New York. But he was
Starting point is 00:22:52 very effective in the playoffs for a few years and actually in a fourth line role where they dumped the puck in and the other team was just totally frightened about getting railroaded and run over. You're not confused at what type of player he is and you know what things he's good at. He's
Starting point is 00:23:10 100th percent out of a player for hits. Like no one runs into bodies at a higher rate than Reeves in the league. And Minnesota had a guy kind of like this. And Nick DeLorea, they lost and free agency after picking him up from Anaheim at the deadline. He went to Philly. And so they've got another tough guy that runs into people.
Starting point is 00:23:28 We'll see if the wild, if they like that. Other items of note, sorry, go ahead. Also, I'm not big on the Twitter and I don't follow, but I have noticed he does a good job on the Twitter.
Starting point is 00:23:39 He's very, very witty. Yes, he's a funny dude. There's, I think when he was in Vegas, too, they had a bunch of little shorts with him and Mark Andre Fleury
Starting point is 00:23:46 giving around. No one's there anymore. All the first year guys. are gone. What did I have had something else for? Okay, Wednesday, have you ever seen three disallowed goals in the same game? New Jersey Devil fans, the pissiest day of the year in the USA, trying to get hammered on a Wednesday, watch their team stretch their winning streak to a franchise record 14. And the officials and the rules kind of got in the way.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Let's have a watch as they hosted Toronto. 13 wins in a row already. That ties the devil's mark. They wanted 14. and have a listen. The fans are beside themselves. This is the third time in the game, ret that a goal's gone under review.
Starting point is 00:24:25 The first two disallowed, and we'll listen in to see how this one goes, is the stripes were not popular in Jersey. Right now, let's have a look at our night's work from the video replay. So this is the recap from earlier in the day. Skates barely touch with the goalie. No goal. Murray, cut off a bit.
Starting point is 00:24:48 sells it, puck goes in, no goal. And then this is the one. It's a kick. And they're just pissed here. Watch the ice. It's going to get ugly here. Oh no. People are throwing full beer.
Starting point is 00:25:18 and now it's on. It's Thanksgiving. We're pissed. When you win 13 in a row, there's probably some new hockey fans there, Rhett. Look at this. Lindy Ruff got, we're playing in Philly one playoffs
Starting point is 00:25:31 and Lindy Ruff got dinged by a beer can. Cut him open my phone. Oh my goodness, who's this? Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. Okay, so there's people throwing beers on the ice, and here's a very happy, well-rested looking, Dean Boomer, Mulberg. Hi, Dean.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I heard you bad mouth and me you pricks I mean it's the it's the internet hey it's not like if I'm out of town I don't find out about things hey boom they're they're shit talking you
Starting point is 00:26:00 real nights I'm not got what times I've been gone for about 30 minutes that's how long it takes about 30 minutes aren't you on vacation you shouldn't be paying attention to your phone we were just saying you earned a vacation take it
Starting point is 00:26:14 you better shave save the show because Pender's drunk and hung over and no good and it's low energy. No one's having fun. There's no laughs. So pick it up, you guys. Figure it out, all right.
Starting point is 00:26:25 How's your vacation going, bud? Can I not take a day off? Please. It doesn't go right to hell. You can go off. Jesus. Take it off. All right.
Starting point is 00:26:37 What's going on? I'm trying to figure out where you are. He's at the hotel, or the airport, excuse me, for sure. I'm going to Buffalo. I'm going to Buffalo. I'm coming to see it. I want to see the, I want to see the cabbage rolls on the, on the back burner.
Starting point is 00:26:51 How drunk were you last night? How drunk were you last night? You're talking to Wrette, right? I'm talking to you. Me? Oh, we put a good shift in. Yeah, I mean, the Wolverine. I left Cowboys.
Starting point is 00:27:06 And then all I see is texts and that from the Wolverine. It's like, oh, yeah, we're downtown, baby, who. It's like, oh, yeah, this is how this goes. Wolverine and Pinder. Local and Stephen Ave, and then it was, we went to a brewery, and then we had to go to that. A line bar place after that. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:22 Good shift. Wolverine's not afraid. You don't need to do that every time you go out. You don't need to hit like nine establishments every time you go out or you host somebody. I was hoping for five. Four. So we'll have to settle with four. It had to work today, right?
Starting point is 00:27:35 You should have been out getting pissed. For a Vietnamese sub? Didn't do the sub. I had stuff to do. I got, you know what? I got kids and stuff. I got to take care of. Are you taking your kids this weekend or what?
Starting point is 00:27:46 Husband. No chance. No chance. No, they can stay at home. Yeah, to hell with them. So how was your Thanksgiving there, Yankee Doodle Bandy? 8,000 calories. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:04 So Pinders booze hung over and your food hung over. It's a show for the ages. Yeah, I made a plate. I made a plate of leftovers at about 1130 last night. And it was like a gravy soup with stuffing and turkey and mashed. and it was, I could go do it again, though. It was delicious. It's addicting.
Starting point is 00:28:24 We've talked about this in the past. I think the second go-round, either the late night or the next day, might be better than the first prepared meal. If you got those good buns, the turkey and gravy, that's a move, right? You know what else? I've discovered down here, fellas. I don't do the regular buns, hardly anymore. I mean, with the turkey and stuff is okay. brioche yeah I'm all brioche no I'm fancy you're bougie yeah it's a difference maker that thing I didn't
Starting point is 00:28:59 mention either was at the Italian dinners that you take different plates right there's 12 different serving so I had to have a plate of pasta and then meat and then turkey and stuffing and the whole I went through four plates it was awesome that's so good it's so good and I didn't I didn't mention to you while you're listening. I may have had to leave the house and make a run for it. Take a shit. I had to make a run. I had to go home just quickly.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I had to grab a pair of socks and return. It was emergency. Yeah, socks. Yeah. You know, I saw this thing online the other day. I want to, we should go like on Instagram. We'll do this. It's like for some of the leftovers, you take some turkey mashed stuffing.
Starting point is 00:29:48 gravy, some of that. You kind of mash it together and you cook it like a crab cake. Oh, yeah. And then put the gravy on top of that thing. Pretty good. It'd be pretty good. Oh, all right. Where are you going?
Starting point is 00:30:02 Do you want to tell us where you're going? Get it to 1145. We got to... Sarat's showing up in 10 minutes. Losers. We're killing time till Sarich. He's going to save the show. We're dead minutes.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Apparently, Sarich is so, so busy. You can't get here until 11, I guess. I mean, he's got a lot on the door. I tried to get him, yeah, I tried to get him for yesterday so that you could have the day off or the day before, but he was too busy. He's got all this going on. So now he's coming in. By the time he gets there, he'll be on for, what, eight minutes? No, no, we're going to have half an hour with Corey.
Starting point is 00:30:34 We'll be fine. That's good booking. Have fun. Such an asshole, too, great. I don't know why you bring that guy in there. Looks like you're decompressed already, Dean. Happy vacation. I feel good.
Starting point is 00:30:47 all right you guys suck see you buddy doesn't want to tell us where he's going he's always it's all very mysterious you gotta shut it off boom get him on oh jeez come on is that the right finger
Starting point is 00:30:59 oh geez all right so anyway the devil's fans are kind of we're in boomers mood throwing stuff on the ice no good at all their winning streak snapped at 13 also we knew the blues
Starting point is 00:31:10 and brunes were streaking their winning streaks at seven were snapped and you'll like you'll like this the anaheim ducks finally did something they hadn't done all year, Rhett. Game number 20. Do you have any guesses what it was? Won a game in regulation?
Starting point is 00:31:25 Because you guys told me the other day they hadn't done that. The Ducks won in regulation. Isn't that exciting? Just the quarter pole of the year, just in time for their first win a year. How about that? Oof. Well, I got to say,
Starting point is 00:31:39 who went there to GM Verbeek? Yep, Patty Verbeek. Got your work cut out for you, Patty. That's a nice way to start. things. There's no, like if you can get away with going one regulation winning your first 20 you've got a, the
Starting point is 00:31:55 expectations are clearly not too high. You've got a lot of runway. How would you like Zegras and Bedard playing together? That seems like a very real possibility all of a sudden. Yeah. That's an LA show for sure. I think this is one of your boys, boys. So first
Starting point is 00:32:12 NHL career goal for in a senator's loss, Congrats. Was it Jake Sanderson? Yeah. I don't know if you saw this. So there it is. I thought of you when I saw that and threw that in there.
Starting point is 00:32:25 So better than we got it today yesterday because you were doing the food tour yesterday anyway. I'm happy for him. It's an old man. Well, I think he's going to be awesome. You know who is awesome already? We should try to get him. Jason Robertson. And don't try getting him.
Starting point is 00:32:41 The Dallas stars are going to hang up the phone immediately. He's got a 13 game points. and is right there amongst the NHL's scoring leaders. An incredible start to the year for him. By the way, the Stars on Wednesday were down 4-1 and just rallied to win 6-4. No sweat. Here's his 13 games. How do you like that streak, rat?
Starting point is 00:32:58 14 goals, 10 assists, almost 100 shots. Shot attempts, excuse me? And yeah, when he's on the ice, they've been just outscoring the crap out of everyone. That's unreal. Star. That team scares me. Yeah. That team scares me.
Starting point is 00:33:13 Especially with Ottinger, right? I feel like last year it kind of felt like that year Colorado played Calgary where it was like, oh, they're an eight seed, no big deal. I was like, oh boy.
Starting point is 00:33:22 Next year they're a wagon. Yeah. Now Dallas, similar sort of storyline there. Jamie Ben, have a nice little Renaissance season as well. So that's the stars.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Speaking of the stars, check out this tilt. We don't get a lot of tilts these days. Yanni Hawkenpaw with a big scrap in said game where they were down 4-1 and rally to win 6-4.
Starting point is 00:33:45 We didn't have the fight the other day. We called for it and it didn't show up. So I'm praying we have the fight today. If not, we'll just have to move along, which will be fine. It is weird because when you do see a fight, you watch it now. Well, and it's like often it's just like, okay, well, nothing happened there. So whatever. But like a good, oh, they're catching each other.
Starting point is 00:34:04 That's a rare sight all of a sudden in the NHL. For better or for worse, let's have a watch here. Our good pals at hockey fights. Who is it? Well, you'll see here. Oh Oh Take that
Starting point is 00:34:23 And Yonnie Hawkenpaw wants a piece of to Norty Don't be fooled Hock and paw can throw them Lefty Yeah Damn lefties Hate left Yeah everyone does
Starting point is 00:34:47 Sneaky So I wanted to show you that With no hockey last night Some games today So we'll probably wrap the NHL portion there Boom That's how it starts clean hit
Starting point is 00:35:03 NFL very quickly We had the three games yesterday That means we'll have a lighter slate on the weekend We got our NFL picks coming up We'll probably do that rate after the Pinda report for Betway We'll get to that in a moment But a retiring player in the NFL, not crazy Blake Martinez is a linebacker for the Raiders retiring
Starting point is 00:35:19 But is it just coincidence Or is there timing here On his retirement? Let's have a look Linebacker Blake Martinez retired November 10 Two weeks after he sold a rare Pokemon card for 672 grand 672 grand red what kind of almost as much money as he made in the NFL
Starting point is 00:35:41 i got to tell you these collectibles down here in the states yeah everyone's into it i never lived in calgary for the last 20 years never heard anyone talk about getting hockey cards Josh allen or this or that you come down here it is a huge deal everybody's into it. What are you collecting? What clogs your arteries? Yeah, plaque. I'm collecting empties outside my side door.
Starting point is 00:36:12 How are those doing? Five cents each still? Okay, you got it. Finally, we'll close the Pinda report with some footy news. And I think Canada's head coach John Hurdman, very fiery, emotional leader, like rah, rah, get the guys all fired up, trying to rally the troops after that 1-0 loss to Belgium post-game.
Starting point is 00:36:31 he said we're going to F Croatia, which is some strong language, but him trying to, you know, keep morale high saying, we play like this, we'll have a good chance against one of the world's best. Only problem is that if I know he said it,
Starting point is 00:36:44 the Croatians know he said it, and the Croatian newspapers know that he said it. So here is the cover of a newspaper in Croatia, loosely translated. It says, you have the mouth, but do you have the balls? And there's a Maple Leaf cover.
Starting point is 00:37:01 John Hurdson's mouth and a very small one in his crotch. So the Croatians are well aware that Coach Hurdman thinks that a similar effort will get a result against the Croatians. The paper's over there, just ruthless, eh? I like it. Can you imagine this for like Bob Hartley of the Calgary Sun? I just can't for some reason, hey? I can't either, but it's, I love it.
Starting point is 00:37:26 It's great. Yeah. So that's Sunday, I believe, what, 9 a.m.? Yeah, big one. You win that, you're in great shape, you lose it, you're screwed, and if it's a draw, we'll see. Should be fun. That, uh, your pinned report for our good friends.
Starting point is 00:37:43 You need four points? Four probably gets you into tiebreak territory. Your goal differential, I don't know, like they only surrendered one to Belgium. A team like Morocco might lose by more to Belgium. Um, but they just need results, to be honest. I mean, Morocco is not necessarily a bad. team. Canadiens might not be able to beat them. Get her going here. Play like they did on Wednesday. I'm a little less concerned than tie break stuff. You play like that, you'll get a couple more results,
Starting point is 00:38:12 I would suggest. Go Canada. Fever. World Cup. Open wide for some soccer. There's your Pinned report for Village Honda. Two million dollars to buy vehicles. We'll buy your car, even if you don't buy ours. And you can get a trip to Las Vegas only at Village Honda. You can check their website for more. It is villagehonda.com, your dealership for life. Okay, let's get to our picks of the week. A light weekend slate in the NFL because we just had three games yesterday on American Football Thursday.
Starting point is 00:38:44 Our Betway bets of the day and our NFL picks of the weekend, we'll flash him up one of the time. First we'll start with Boomer. He's not here, but he has submitted his selections for the weekend. So Boom is going with, well, let's look at this, three favorites, all favored by three and a half points. He likes the Ravens at Jux, which I think is Jacksonville. I'm not quite sure.
Starting point is 00:39:06 He likes this Seattle. They're playing the Raiders. And it also likes the Bucks against Cleveland. We've got some interesting, uh, is he back again? Is that him again? No, that's just a pitcher of him. All right, very good. So those are Boomer's picks for week 12.
Starting point is 00:39:23 I think he went, what, one for three last week? tougher week. I'm trying to bounce back after my first O and three week, two and one until 0 and 3. I was talking a nice little roll. Need to bounce back here. I got the Bengals favored by less than a field goal at Tennessee against that good deed. They might have Jamar Chase back this weekend. New Orleans getting nine and a half points in San Fran. I think San Fran is very good. Probably beats them. Nine and a half is a lot of points. And we'll see they've been talking about using Taysome Hill a little more. The Swiss Army
Starting point is 00:39:50 knife that plays, you know, tight end, fullback and quarterback. And I like the Cardinals getting three against my stupid chargers because they always find a way to screw things up, Brett. I don't know that they'll necessarily cover the three on that game. Rhett, your picks? Let's have a peek. Always interesting with you because it's like, hmm. So you've got the bills there. Now, the picks are due today. You don't have to go with the bills, Red. Well, I feel like I would have went with the bills. Isn't that kind of my thing? You would have, but again, you have an opportunity to pick something else if you'd like.
Starting point is 00:40:26 I like the loyalty. I really do. It's, uh, You're showing love here for the bills, I guess. That's my team. I'll stick with it. Good on Detroit. Clearly they like that maniac coach that they're playing for. Yeah, that's a good call. Yeah, Dan Campbell.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Yeah, the bills, they did not cover. Kansas City, I have no idea if they, I didn't realize it was 15.5. I just picked teams and Philly's going to bounce back. It does look like you're picking Super Bowl favorites, not looking at the lines and thinking, can that team cover? Like those are probably a three Super Bowl favorites. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Interesting. 100%. Good luck to you. Already O for one. Sticking with the bills, despite knowing that they did not cover. Bold pick. Okay, we'll take a break.
Starting point is 00:41:13 Corey Serich in studio when we come back. Barnburner rolls on on a Friday here on Flames Nation and YouTube. See you in 30. All right. Welcome back to Barnberger on a Friday. There's Rhett in his lovely dining room in Buffalo, New York. We're here in the tower. Studios Tower, Chrysor, Dodge,
Starting point is 00:41:44 Ram, Jeep with a very special guest former Calgary Flames, Stanley Cup champion. Corey Serich, sir, how are you? Doing well, thank you. Yeah, hanging in there. Rhett, turn yourself on. We can't hear you. But look at that. Feast your
Starting point is 00:42:00 eyes. Look at that garb. Yeah, he's Maybe. There we go. There it is. Yes. Look at the... What is that gorgeous thing? Yeah, not nice. That's your whole life, Sarchie.
Starting point is 00:42:14 It really makes me look a lot younger. That's what they're telling me. You got some sergeant slaughter vibes here with this thing. You can be a pro wrestler with a handle like that. Wow. Yeah. That's next year, Halloween, you're Sergeant Slaughter. You got it.
Starting point is 00:42:31 I'll probably have put out a few pounds by then, too. I'll be fit the roll. Thanks for coming in. How you've been? Everything's great, yeah. Just live in life, trying to get a house built. I was going to ask you how yours is. We're in. It's done.
Starting point is 00:42:46 The usual kid sport, very minimal sports net. Kind of the same old. How many games are you doing? We see on TV. You're doing a great job at the intermissions with Leslie. Leslie keeps snubbing me. He keeps forgetting when he actually invites me on. So I got a, you know, hey, what's going on?
Starting point is 00:43:04 Am I in tonight? Oh, sorry. No, you're not. Well, I have two or three text messages that confirm that I'm supposed to be. But that's not part of his duties. He shouldn't be actually looking. Not the booking age. Yeah, he shouldn't be looking after bringing in the talent.
Starting point is 00:43:19 So, and then I was supposed to do one Monday against the Kings a couple of weeks back. Yep. And it got moved to national and not good looking enough for national. Oh, is that what it is? Come on. No, it's been pretty sparse. I've only had three or four games this year. A couple more hens in the basket looking to do some analysis.
Starting point is 00:43:38 So it's, it's been a bit of a scrap. Hopefully I'll get back on there soon. No, I'm sure when you started doing this. you reached out to your old pal Rhett for some advice because he was, it was a very, very short-lived but wildly successful analyst on TV portion of his career. That phone call happened. It had to have, right, Red?
Starting point is 00:43:58 Just like everything in life, Corey Sarch, saw me do something because we're back from Saskatchewan. So he saw me do it. And he's like, if that idiot can do it, I can do it way better. And that's just what he's done his whole career. Saskatoon, he'd go and one-up me. and then he go and win a Stanley Copp and one up me. Now he's one up on me and the media side of things.
Starting point is 00:44:20 That's his thing. Always, he sees me. He's like, ha, I got this. It's the Red does it better. It's the Ret Warner Action Plan. There you go. If you want to be successful and make money, do what Red does. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:32 It's pretty damn simple. Pretty soon. I've been looking for spots out there in Williamsville, New York. Maybe we could be neighbors. We need you to, we need you to come back. the goat head jersey the retro jersey on wednesday night and the crowd was wound up the uh the guy that runs the alumni he's like do you know any other guys the place at sarchie we're gonna get sarge back here it looks it'd love to have you come to town it looks better in uh in the golden golden blue than it does
Starting point is 00:45:03 in red and black like it used to it was actually like i'll never forget my draft year was the year in 96 that they changed their logo from the traditional yeah what it is, the buffalo and the sabers and the gold and the blue. They change it to that, which you spent a lot of time in, at the goathead, even though I think it's... The whole career. Yeah. And honestly, I hadn't spoke to Buffalo before that draft at all.
Starting point is 00:45:32 And I was sitting there and I was looking down at the floor and there was only 26 teams at the time. And I was like, is there an expansion team out there? Like, I couldn't even tell that it was a Buffalo's head. And then they ended up picking me in the second. I had actually no clue that it was that it was the Buffalo Sabres until they called me up upstairs or up on stage. And I was like, oh, that's their new logo.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Holy, geez, I wasn't sure what to think about that thing. And you weren't Buffalo long. No, she was, they took away two summers of my life to be out there training, cup of tea, a few games, and then gone. Although Rochester was a great experience. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Buffalo was very fleeting. finally went to the rink well i think i played an exhibition game in roj and i may have played one minor league game but i was on a bit of a bender when i was in the minor so i don't remember uh that rink is phenomenal yes for they could they stick they haven't changed a damn thing i'm guessing for 25 30 years like the music is still rock and roll 80s music the crowd is rock and roll 80s and it Their jerseys are phenomenal. What a place. I think the only thing they changed,
Starting point is 00:46:47 it was the year I got there was they took the teams from dressing out of the basement and riding the elevator up to put him on the main floor. Okay, this is all coming back to me. I called games in that building for a couple of years in the American League
Starting point is 00:47:00 and it's just like the history. Lots of Don Cherry. And then also the NLL franchise is like a powerhouse there. And that would be one of the only things that's changed. That's now huge. But that's a classic HL setup they got there.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. And lots of war memorials throughout New York. You know, you've got, I think, I don't know if Syracuse's was called it as well. But pretty good barn. I think it held about 12,000 right full. And it was right full most of the season. I was there. And I was fortunate enough to go to a Calder Cup final.
Starting point is 00:47:28 We didn't fare very well. But it was an incredible year. And they've got a great fan base. Okay. So. Wasn't you could only send, you could only send a few up on the elevator too, I think. Yeah, at a time. She was like a...
Starting point is 00:47:43 I was talking to some of the guys. It was about a third of the team. I think. Gotta go up in groups. That's an old barn. I was pretty fortunate. That was, our room was brand new when I got there. You know, the Sabres rink.
Starting point is 00:47:58 Everything was only a couple years old there. It was, uh, the, the, um, franchises were in transition. And now it's hard to believe that that's shoot. We're going to be 20 years before we know it here. So you finally do catch up to Rhett, who you followed along in the way, Saskatoon, and you played against each other in the 04 final. After the lockout, you do come over here by 07-08 season, your first in Calgary. Ret, where's 0-708 for you?
Starting point is 00:48:29 Is that the last year you played or is that the year where you didn't play, but you're on payroll and upset about your hip and your shoulders and all that shit. No, 8, 0-8-09 was my last year where I was on pay. role and not playing. Yeah, no, I got in touch with Sarkin and said he should come play here and take my job. So it was perfect for me. Worked out just like you said, eh? Those non-tampering wait till July 1st days. Hey, you're probably just talking about Stampede, hey?
Starting point is 00:48:58 Just come on out, come to Calgary. We're old friends. We're old teammates. We can talk all we want. I got a question for you. Is the thaw happening out there? You still can't see out the windows? You'll be surprised here, Corey.
Starting point is 00:49:12 You know what? You know what it's like here. Like, look at it. Nothing. It's gone. Well, he was in the wrong part of town, slash the right part of town. Nope, we just lost again, right? Audio.
Starting point is 00:49:26 Amherst never got hit. It was the south towns that got slammed, like down by the Bill Stadium there. It is some people said 81 inches. I remember moving to Rochester from Saskatchewan. I rent my beautiful spot in Rustic Village. And I'm like, so okay, so where are the plugins? Where do I plug in the car? And they're like, no, don't need one of those.
Starting point is 00:49:53 They're like, but you might want to leave your shovel on your roof when you head on a road trip. And no joke, there's a few times I came back and you can't see your car. Whoa. So just you hope your shovel's still there. Get to work. Jeez. So what state was the flames in when you arrive? Because it's like, Daryl's come in and affected things big time.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You see that Calgary Club in the 04 final. but then it's like more and more veterans are coming in he's now placed himself up as GM not coaching you know iron mics rolling in like where when you're deciding to commit to Calgary for that last what four or five six years of your career what are you looking at and what are your expectations when you get here well the thing was you know I knew I knew a few of the guys just from mostly playing against obviously I knew Rhett was there first thing I looked that was the goaltender. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:48 You need one of those to win, and he was pretty darn good. Yeah, no, it was kind of an easy transition, too. I already had a place here, so selfishly, it was honestly between Calgary and L.A. and L.A. scared the crap out of me. And L.A. wasn't at the same point. They didn't, they weren't a competitive team. Yeah. I think Jonathan Quick had kind of just registered with their team, and obviously they did
Starting point is 00:51:13 make some strides within those five years that I was in Calgary and then ended up winning cups. But it was first and foremost, the goaltending, I just thought with Kipper, you've got a chance to win. New a few of the guys, knew that a coin was here, knew that Retro was here. Then it was home. So the whole Mike Keenan thing, I said once he, he actually signed here before I did. And I was like, well, I'm never going there. but you know you make decisions sometimes based on money based on your lifestyle based on what's best for your family and it was a good fit and the only thing is with darrell and i don't know what
Starting point is 00:51:52 wret's thoughts on it but i think it was killing him to not be behind the bench he's just a much better fit back there and he was in our dressing room half the time acting as a coach anyways he might as well have just been he might as well can mike after the first week and got after it i think we would have fared better. And I guess the other thing is when you're signing up for a long-term contract, you know that's not the only coach you're going to play for. They just don't last that long, especially Keenan. Like, you're thinking, okay, this might not be fun,
Starting point is 00:52:20 but there's probably going to be some other coaches too. Yeah. For me, though, as much as I resented him my first year, I had some serious confrontation with him the second year, and I gave him some choice words and said, like, leave me alone, let me go play hockey. and if I'm still awful once we get through the first half of the year, then you can just ride me all the way in for the rest of the year.
Starting point is 00:52:43 And I'll give him credits. The one thing I'll give him credit for is he backed off. He let me play hockey. I was paired up with Gio that year and actually made some strides. And there was a small part of me that wanted him to come back the next year. But I knew it was him or Iggy. The two weren't quite seeing eye to eye. And obviously we knew who won out in that.
Starting point is 00:53:03 Yeah, that power struggle is a little easier to handicap than some other. ones that exist we see yeah well that team was good too like corey deciding to sign in calgary that we had the with kipper of course you always thought you had a chance to win but that team was designed to be deep playoff runs we dropped the ball a little bit but for various reasons but that the time in the the french the time of the or the where the team was that in those years years, it was supposed to be built for playoff success. We didn't have it, but it wasn't like they were building for the future. It was a team that was supposed to be winning.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah. Yeah, and San Jose, we should have beat them. I mean, we definitely dropped the ball there in the first round. We should have at least been able to get to a second round. But Chicago was pretty good. Like, that was my second year here. You could see them coming, eh? Oh, they were, they were all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:54:05 intimidating to play against because that place when i first i finished up in tampa and first is in calgary like it was a joke to go into chicago and it's kind of the end of the daisy days and i even remember playing against theo flurry in there yeah and it was like arnison and dazay that whole crew seven seven thousand fans yeah but they it was sad they they they you know the the the anthem it was became it's supposed to be a awesome experience and it was a sad it was like they're singing the anthem it was embarrassing yeah normally you cheer the whole anthem the place going nuts 7,000 people in a 22,000 seat arena I'd be something's a little off here then they get keith and cane
Starting point is 00:54:45 and taves and see brook and things were okay for a bit there I think where the way they go where they go a few banners the anthem got good again all right I have been critical of the flames this year I was critical of the signings saying what what where are we as a franchise is this the right thing to do. Your thoughts in general on maybe the the off season and those big signings. And are they where are they, well, I don't think anyone believes they're where they should be, but are you okay with how they've played so far? Um, I think it was a bit of a pickle, right? Like you got, you know that I didn't ever expect Goudreau to come back, but Kachuk kind of making his decision and they had to hit, they basically
Starting point is 00:55:35 I think had to hit the panic button with their couple signings. Like you look at what's out there, but we have to do something because we've got a competitive team. We've got a really good goal tender. And now is the time. Like you can't, you can't not bring somebody back in. But when it happened, I like Cadry. I, you know, he started out like a house on fire. Maybe you can't keep up that pace. But as far as shoring up your team, I mean, Johnny obviously not worth a crap defensively. Hard points to
Starting point is 00:56:09 replace though. And then you've got Kachuk who, you know, unproven in the playoffs and wasn't all that dedicated to his own end. So I think if you swap out Kachuk for Kadri, you're maybe still a little light in the points department, but I think
Starting point is 00:56:23 you've got a better product overall. I know that Matthew's got a ton of upside because he's a little bit younger, but I feel like right now in the present, I feel like Cadry, for me, is a bit of an upgrade just all over the ice. Center too, right?
Starting point is 00:56:39 Yeah. And then Huberdo, I didn't think it would take him this long to kind of start to find his footing, but you can probably attest to it. And one of my biggest questions out there was, can they transition into the Canadian market flawlessly? And I know that Cadry's been there before. He's been in Toronto, so he's fine. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:57:02 But I'm telling you, you come from a place like 10. Tampa or Florida where you have complete anonymity. There's one reporter there covering you every day. You got two questions to answer. You head out in your flip-flops and get in your car and you go home and sneak some golf in every now and then. Like, coming to this market, it's not easy. And you feel the pressure, you feel the pressure to live up to your contract, to the
Starting point is 00:57:23 expectations. And that's not an easy thing to settle into. And then all of a sudden more of your time is chewed up because of the fan base, the knowledge, the fact that the flames are very community-oriented. and I just think that Hubert O's transition has been more in line with the way I thought it would go than, like, you know, obviously Cadreve-hot start, Huberto, slow start. But I think they'll both get there. I think missing Shillington on the back end, there's a few points. I think we forget how many points he put up for this team, especially early last year.
Starting point is 00:57:58 That puck moving in the neutral zone, too, like his ability to hit someone in stride. I mean, I think even when he missed a week or two last year, we're going to be. of injury you're like yeah like it's just you're not catching forwards at full speed as much with other guys back there you give that first pass is really helpful and then i'll give nakeda zedorov credit he's filled in a lot for his partner from last year who left but that was one of the biggest question marks for me like i'm obviously defensively skewed and you lose gab branson who gets that many blocks in a game who's that big of a body and who had a coming out year he's one of the biggest gaps to fill for me and i think the i think the decor overall has that
Starting point is 00:58:35 done a pretty nice job, but there's still a little bit of grit missing back there. Where he had on Weger? That's a guy that I think is, when he signed, he's a guy the analytics have always liked, but I saw a lot of like hockey guys saying this is a really good deal. And I'm like, well, these are the types of players. The hockey guys usually foam over because the gaffs are bigger ones. I sort of liken him to T.J. Brody, like he's a very competent player. You can play big minutes. You can play against top competition, but he's getting up on the highlight reel for the wrong reasons every once in a while. But the, the, underlying stuff zone exits and entries he's really good at uh where he had on him what is he and
Starting point is 00:59:10 do you see him as a guy that's elevating a partner that's still finding his way like what's he doing well it's the same thing for him all of a sudden it's a completely different market he's got to find his footing so we've got to give him a little bit benefit benefit of the doubt there please don't compare him to tj i mean what what do you see similar and different there i just i just think i think as far as being a teammate as far as presence in the dressing room as far as competitor I think he's heads and tails. And I think... More physical for sure.
Starting point is 00:59:38 More physical. I think that he has just as much offensive upside as T.J. had. And then I feel like that because he's willing to get in the mix, that he will have more prolonged success. It won't just be kind of when he decides. And he'll be there every night competing. So again, got to let him find his footing,
Starting point is 00:59:58 find the right partner, let that stuff kind of sort it out. But I just like, I like the fiery competitive that he shows. That's fair. That for me, it goes a long way. That, that's a guy that you can have patience with for me because he's bringing it every night. Rett's been harder to win over. Just your thoughts are at, or at least your queries about what Uighur is or isn't? I have not been hard, well, I have been harder to win over, but I think it's expectation.
Starting point is 01:00:27 Because everyone's telling me he's a number two and this and that. I'm like, well, is he? Wait a minute. Is he a three or four? Like to me it's more where Don't tell me that this guy's a number one And maybe not even the number two I don't dislike his play so much But if you're slotting him in as a number two defenseman He should be doing more
Starting point is 01:00:47 Yeah, I'll agree with that I mean as far as top four Yeah you put him in that conversation for sure Just even watching if you compare him to Rasmus Anderson Rass is having a solid year And it's because his game is rounding out And they both I don't know what their games played would compare at, but it's got to be...
Starting point is 01:01:07 You know, their careers? Fairly... Weir's quite a bit older than him. Yeah, he's got a few more games, but I just think if you had to compare those two, because they're both competitive, kind of same size-ish style of play. Like, I just think Rasmus, the ceiling is higher. He's got that better offensive upside. He could run a power play more than you'd want Wigger doing it.
Starting point is 01:01:27 And he's just, for me right now, he's been even defensively more sound than Wigger. So he's, he'd be the guy that I'd be investing a little bit more in. Wow, yeah, and they got him locked in a while ago on a nice contract. One of the things I think Daryl's trying to figure out is, okay, what side should Wigger be on? He can play both, and who am I playing him with? I thought him and Tenev would stick, but he's got Tannav with Gilbert. You're probably 8, 9, 10 somewhere there on the depth chart with Stone and Shillington absent and, you know, Connor Mackey not performing well.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Is it Tannav's the security blanket for Gilbert and, you know, Zadorov and Wiger can work? Or is it, hey, maybe he's on the right and Tannov likes the third. right too. I feel like that's he hasn't, Daryl's still trying to figure out the, all the pairs not named Hanof and Anderson. Yeah. I think it's your first assumption. More of the security blanket. Yeah. You've got a, you've got a inexperienced guy in Gilbert and you've got to put
Starting point is 01:02:20 someone there that's going to look out and maybe break up some mistakes, right? Tannav's a guy on two on ones and breakdowns that seems to react the right way and can diffuse a lot of those situations. So whereas Zadora, you wouldn't want, I wouldn't want to see him and Gilbert together. And then obviously, we're still trying to kind of really solidify himself here. He needs, he needs a guy maybe with a little more presence to play with too. And you got to give Zadora of credit. He's been, he's asked to have more responsibility.
Starting point is 01:02:52 He's gotten more this year. And I've been pretty impressed. He still makes the odd mistake for, I think, trying to do too much. But that's better than sitting back and not doing anything. So you can kind of live with a few of his mistakes. Yeah, and he's what, it was 25 minutes the other night? Like, that's not a spot. Many people have been comfy with Nikita Zadar of in his career.
Starting point is 01:03:13 I think it speaks to him sort of rounding into form, evolving, I guess. Isn't that what you call him? The roller coaster? I did call him the roller coaster. I think it is. Like, honestly, you watch him jump into the rush. You're like, oh, my God, this sounds unbelievable. Wow, amazing.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And then you see him last man back getting cute with a puck and getting caught and creating a two-on-one. You're like, I just, if he's a third pair, I love the guy. Top four. I just see him too much. I don't need the roller coaster all day. I can do it once in the morning, once in the afternoon.
Starting point is 01:03:38 I don't, like every other shift feels a bit much. The part I miss, though, because he's starting to shore up his game a little bit, and he's a little bit more internally responsible is when he used, when he first came in the league and he would just run a couple guys. Yeah. And he would absolutely railroad them.
Starting point is 01:03:54 Like, there's still a time for that. He's had a few big ones this year. Don't completely forget about that Z. Like, let's have a couple of train wrecks out there. Yeah. There is that. Okay. I want to, do you have a favorite hit of your career?
Starting point is 01:04:08 Because you've got like a very, very high profile highlight reel of hits. And is that something where you're like, they stand out or not? Or is that just going to the office and some people like this workday more than that one? Yeah. It's like, I mean, this is my calling card in Calgary. I actually, the one against Marlowe. I can't remember. Let's go, let's get sound on this and watch from the beginning.
Starting point is 01:04:30 And then I'll get you to react. If we can restart it, Alex, with sound up. That'd be great. So this is playoffs. This is San Jose. You guys are down 3-0 and something needed to happen to change momentum in the building. Yeah, Mike was telling us, somebody better do something in between periods to make a statement.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So I don't know. I just like, or I guess, is this still the first period? It's early. For some reason I thought it was the third period. It was another game where Joe Thornton broke my foot. He told me to go do something. Marlow Hammer! Yeah, and this one I just did the old fake like I'm leaving,
Starting point is 01:05:01 going to skate backwards. and Patty didn't recheck. And so. That's Sasky on Sasky crime. That's tough. That might have been a suspension. Yeah, you've got to check twice before you cross the road. Yeah, you better not just look once.
Starting point is 01:05:14 So I believe you guys came back from 3-0, and everyone on the broadcast is talking about that could be your turning point. You guys came back and win that game. Huge. Yeah. And then Jeremy Ronek got the better of us in game seven down in San Jose, which kind of. Yeah, but it was my criticism of Keemnon, he ended me, but maybe it was time for a
Starting point is 01:05:40 to end anyway. But his handling of that game seven was embarrassing. Was that a Kipper? Don't you dare tell the story about what happened the next day. Yeah, well, that's, Saris gave us that piece of gold a year ago, I think, didn't he? Yeah, wow. It's just, yeah, I don't know. I don't know why, what happened in that first period in San Jose.
Starting point is 01:06:01 part of it's still a little bit of a blur. My memory, again, is not great. But I don't know. Something was mismanaged there. I'll agree with you. Did he pull Kipper there? Was that a different series, different San Jose? Yes, he pulled Kipper on two goals.
Starting point is 01:06:15 In a game seven. I almost threw one of those folding tables into the stands. I was so mad. And who went out? Who was the backup? Big name guy. Curtis Joseph.
Starting point is 01:06:30 He sent. Cujo. Coojo and cold and then he lets it the next shot. Oh, there's the series. I think he was, I know what he was trying to do is to get us going because we were pretty flat in that first period. Wasn't probably our best. You weren't great.
Starting point is 01:06:47 You weren't great, but it wasn't that. I mean, that's the move. Yeah. No. He usually takes three or four for a goalie to come out. Those are Mike's head games and they bit him in the ass. Yeah. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:07:01 A couple other Sarah Chiley was, do you remember your hit on Taylor Hall? It looked like he didn't remember it. He was on the planet. He's lucky, well, he's lucky that he bailed. He did bail hard too. I was going right through him, suspension or no suspension. Battle of Alberta here. This was headshot.
Starting point is 01:07:17 But he actually hit, you'll see the other angle right. He hit the deck so he didn't get the full brunt of it. Yeah, watch him see the train coming and like, I'm out of here. He did eat a little elbow there. That's his fault. I have to say, though, probably my favorite is my junior hit. The junior hit we have. No sound on the junior hit.
Starting point is 01:07:37 It's grainy, but we can show the junior hit. It's so famous. A guy this summer said, I know the guy that was on the receiving end of that Sarah Chitton, Jr. Oh, yeah. I know who it is, too. This is a suicide pass for the ages. And how about a ride on the, or on the old roller coaster? I got railroaded in the other end of the rink down in the corner.
Starting point is 01:08:03 So I had to pick up my glove and get my stick and I was real mad. And so I was really late coming up for the play. I don't know who is D partner that was there, but that was a terrible pass. But should we mention who that was? Go ahead, sure. I mean, Quinn Hancock, I'd probably call him a pal right now. Good player.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Yeah. Highly offensive. I think we in that at this point of the game, it's like 2-1, 2-0, 1-1, something like that. Again, my memory's awful. And hit Quinn, I think the stretcher came out and everything. And I actually thought I separated my shoulder. And he left the game for a while,
Starting point is 01:08:46 but due to it being the 90s and limited concussion protocol. As in none. Yeah. He came back. He came back with a stretcher out. And he had a, He had a couple of goals, maybe three points. They shalact us like 7-2, 7-3.
Starting point is 01:09:03 He probably knows all those details. Oh, man. Probably shouldn't have woke them up. That's a nice highlight reel. Not a lot of guys can throw three hits at you like that for career highlights. That's quite something. I know I've got some really good ones in Tampa too, but it's crazy. Like the old VHS tapes and video.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Squares, right? It's not the widescreen. hard to see. Thanks for coming in. I wish we had more time. It flies when we get into story mode. Rhett, any last thoughts here? We don't know when Rhett's coming back.
Starting point is 01:09:34 We don't know if he's allowed in the country. We don't know if he's allowed to leave the U.S., but it sure would be fun to get you guys together and have a few pops and get more into those Keenan stories. The alumni, keeping the alumni, everything's going smooth enough with the alumni. Yeah, well, we got Cooner and then Glennie's always on top of things, so everything's great there.
Starting point is 01:09:53 Lanny's mustard seed games back on, but zero alumni skates so far, unless I fell off the mailing list. Jeez. I know. Too many, too many hockey teams. Are you coaching? Cochran Rockies hockey.
Starting point is 01:10:09 We're 2 and 0 in the league. Tier 2. Oh, that's. Yeah, it was all tiering rounds, all tiering rounds so far. So. All right. Into the regular season.
Starting point is 01:10:21 We've played my middle kid, My middle kid has played more games already this year than he had his whole life. It's so much hockey. What time do they shut her down there? Mid-February? Or they'll just roll her right through. Yeah, just keep playing. Why not?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Okay, fellas. Wait, wait, wait. Last one. Anything to do in Utica. Have you been to Utica? Did they have a... No, the Comets weren't. They were in the U-Haul.
Starting point is 01:10:51 It was just. described as a post-apocalyptic hellscape by one online when the Canucks moved their farm team there. Yeah, they were, they had a team. I had a team in the U-H-L back there. The U-H-H-L, baby. Yeah. You're going to Utica. Go to Utica on Sunday.
Starting point is 01:11:06 Utica. Sunday, I'm in Utica. Is there something in Ithaca? I know all those. It could be nicer. There's probably a big school there. I know all those towns up and down the highway on the way to Adirondack. Beautiful spot.
Starting point is 01:11:21 Rhett, have a good weekend, will you? I'm going to continue my intake of calories. I'm going to go for an 8,000 per day weekend. I'm going for it, four in a row. Good to see you, retro. Hopefully it's in person one of these days. Yeah, and Corey, thanks for coming in. Thanks for having me.
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