Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - FlamesNation Barn Burner: Flames Penguins Gameday with Frank Seravalli

Episode Date: October 25, 2022

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Right. Tuesday is today. Today is Tuesday. All right. Tuesday is a, it's a game day, which means in Calgary, it's a game day, which means get your helmet on, Sid the kid, and the Pittsburgh Penguins are in town. You know, I've been having an issue putting my helmet on. Yeah, we'll discuss that. You know, it's interesting because it can, you can do so much with that. I haven't even manned yet. We're going to do that at some point. Yeah.

I was going to today. Oh, right. Great times. Yeah. Redda liked that. Good time. Welcome to Barnburn, Boomer, Pinder, Rhett Warner here on a game day.

The 25th, I'm going to call it, of October. Oh, that seems awfully late. Weird, right? Yeah. I don't even know what October was or is. It's a poof. I feel like we just had summer and then someone switched the dial and it's winter now. Yeah.

Don't know what's happening. But the game day edition, as we see on our you can join us on youtube we're live every day from 1030 until you know whenever we stop talking an addition to the ret warner studios in uh the suburbs of buffalo new york wow it looks to be a hmm yeah very good let me let us see there we've got kind of uh hollywood squares well we guys like it's not a shelving you what is what do we got there it's some sort of a cubes they're cubes they're cubes they're cubes a shelf of cubes and a little a little jacko lantern up in the top left i feel like he's

going to have one more thing tomorrow it's going to be pumpkins against coffee cups and you'll see who wins xes and o's it's nice i like it i was saying that looks very swedish but there's no ikea in buffalo how is there not an ikea somewhere i don't know somebody's going to get rich one day though when they open one yeah so where did you because you you sent me a a note and then we talked briefly on the phone this morning about some work you were going to go do with your studio and this new unit has shown up within the last 45 minutes or so did you run out and grab one or where did i did some carpentry i did some carpentry and threw that bad boy together you know i'm a woodsman so took a while i had i had i had

had to do it twice right because being a woodsman i felt like i could just handle it but it was backwards it was backwards measure twice cut once isn't that what they say that's you as a woodsman you'd know that it's a mountaineer as a carpenter as a woodsman yeah thank you to the fan from youtube see here's what i'm worried about you figured out how to interact with the people who are but we lose him then yeah you and i in the show lose him as he gets you and i and the show lose him as he gets Because you can see he's going to lose me any more than normal with your. I was going to say his beak into his keyboard. If he's not on YouTube,

I'm not suggesting there's a guarantee we wouldn't lose him anyway. And I do like that he's in the comments mixing it up. He's actually taking runs of people. It's good stuff. Oh, there's a look at listening from Rotterdam in the Netherlands. Longtime fans of the show. Is that the typical Seinfeld?

Is that the typical Seinfeld's joke? Is that the Dutch? Who are the Danish? something like that yeah who are the dutch then who are the dutch look that people loving loving the pumpkin cute pumpkin if you want to interact you can do that on the old uh whatever the chat i guess it is right you can chat on the youtube's there this is all going to be very weird if you're listening to this podcast i know later like on november 25th but that's the thing that is the thing this is the new world we're very

fancy we're very interactive it's the pittsburgh penguins oh and What's interesting is red has been in Pittsburgh more than he's been in Calgary over the last what four or five months four or five months what to see you're you're into your I said you've been in Pittsburgh more than you've been in Calgary over the last four or five months because you've not been in Calgary at all yeah you're right I've been to Pittsburgh three times and somebody else was there as well so we've a total of four trips to Pittsburgh beautiful shoveler. Absolutely. Gorgeous. Good ballpark.

Beauty ballpark. The league rigged a lottery so they could get a new building. It's a wonderful town, isn't it? Did they rig it? Yeah, here's a team about to go into bankruptcy that needs a new rink. And in the lockout year, here's

Sidney Crosby. And the rink gets built and the franchise is alive. I mean, maybe they didn't, but if you were going to rig it, that's exactly how you'd rig it. And there's beautiful Mario Lemieux, uh, practice arena, which is there you go. Wonderful. Good coffee.

Pizza. I was trying to think. So was the Jim, balsely, Blackberry, that whole thing? Was that before that or after that? Oh, I don't know. Because they would, there was, there's been no talk of them leaving since the rink and Sid has been there, right? Oh, God, no.

The moment he landed, it was like the, well, that problem. Yeah. So that whole. They're competitive again. They got superstars again. It's basically like, Jaeger and Lemieux again. Like it's, yeah, no problem.

It's a blessed franchise, right? Very much so. Not unlike those in the cultural capital of QE2 from here. Oilers South. Oilers South, that's what they call them. Speaking of the Oilers and the Penguins, they played last night. Yes, quite a roller coaster for those in attendance. A wide spectrum of emotions would have been displayed on the faces of

the Edmontonians. Penguins had a, what, 3-1 lead, and then the Oilers roar back to win by a score of six to three. But more than that, the generational talent bends in half backwards around a post and goes down the tunnel. Yeah, McDavid. While they were down.

So you're thinking, okay, they're losing. There goes the best player, maybe in the history of the sport, and where are we at here? But he came back. Did come back, so did the offense. But maybe he's a little tender. maybe he's a little i would be surprised if he isn't a little tender you know what he might be a little

ginger might be moving a little gingerly this morning yeah uh oilers shots on goal in the second period 26 to four that's final 40 minutes 38 16 so the oilers turned it up over the final 40 and pump in five behind tristan jari which uh leads us to believe Casey de smith might be the netminder here in calgary would make sense now before we move to the the calgary angle tonight have you ever bent backwards or around a post like you know the human body folds forward real well backwards not so well you ever done that i was really flexible i was good at the sit and reach but not backwards not in the reverse i could go forward but not backwards don't feel like many spines are built that way the backwards bend

how flexible are you now how's your flexibility these days i did lunges yesterday and my knee i was walking up the stairs and my knees about gave out so i don't know if that has anything to do with flexibility but overall health is the shits what do we say that was a five or ten dollar i don't know you've recalibated the whole thing that's a toney red said what it is now he just makes his own right the old south street swear jar uh i see deke is chiming in on the uh the chat there what about your stank jersey what what is the stank jersey they remember the preacher from the roast yes yeah he he called me stank all the time when we were playing hockey together so it's one point we were all stars or we had made a team of

all i don't even know why we made these stupid jerseys but the name of the back my jersey was stank so that's the sc h yes yeah yeah extra stank yeah i like that a lot so he just me huh nah nothing i was going to say that guy that deke he keeps everything he's got all that stuff somewhere i guarantee it you got friends like that that have piles of stuff that can go back a decade and pinderwood because his buddies he's best friends with all of his child or high school chums he'd have all kinds of paraphernalia laying around from his trip twice in six years so that that in six months i should say so no um there are boxes of things i was going to say another swear but you look terrible to fire away it's a boy i look

What do you hold back? My pale or what's the? He looks like the story here. You look like the Vegas boogeyman has gotcha. He's in your head right now. The most savvy decision to go to a concert that started at 2 a.m. On the day I had to leave my hotel room at 6 a.m. for the flight. It is.

It's a lot. Especially when it's the fifth day in a row, you're flooring it. So needless to stay, we're a little light on the old sleek column. What did you? Now, do you include the day before you left? is one of those five or is oh Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Might have had about 12 hours of sleep in there. Good counting.

Oof. Can still do that. Yeah, I don't even know what, uh, say, what was the chain, the chain smokers. Yeah, you got to go see the chain smokers. Yeah, you got a chance. The encore, yeah, buddy at a table. Kid me? Let's go.

What's that run a guy? Uh, five to 10 K US, depending on how many people and where it's, located with bottle service I imagine well I was going to say do you have to buy the four hundred dollar bottles on top of that or is that you get a couple they got busy and left before the show started so he pulled the shoot of the table and we were in there for free so you see you dropped 10k they didn't he worked them over brilliantly which is usually what happens to you in Vegas they work you over but he played just swimmingly for him for him uh you can see there are the swear jar proceeds the kids sport we're going to have

that uh total figured out another it's another it's another Friday every month or every Friday during the month of October they've been rent nice over Jimmy Cond and this Friday again 730 deal 9 if you want to get the boys out there free skate courtesy of New York fries Selt Street burger Jimmy Conn's Jimmy the one next to get your hands on Friday night ice like you must like that that stuff's like gold isn't it that's Brian DeHon that's Braden you should it's their world we live in it they rolled in here yesterday with booze and burgers have this some stuff here that we're going to be given away to us

of the listeners slash viewers coming up yeah not sure where those beers went but that was very nice how many did you crush how many did you crush burgers or beers burgers berner not beer hey it was we had one each with some poutteen and that was uh we were on our way we had things to do you would have hammered three we were talking about poutine last night me and the boys we miss it they fake it here they just put the melted mozzarella on with cheese or as the cheese It's just, it's phony. It's just, come on. I smell a business opportunity there, Rhett.

You're an idea guy. Yeah, we'll eat it. I just, you know, don't enjoy it as much. You occurred. So how did you get to the Poutine conversation? At the rink here in town, they have, I ordered it the other day. And so after practice every day, me and the boys have to have a Poutine. And we were every day.

We were lamenting. we're reminiscing about the wonderful putteen back home Calgary so yeah cats ketchup chips there's all kinds of well we got two bags uh two bags of ketchup chips from mr gagino it's funny this guy Joe gajino he's like one of the first friends i made in buffalo he was working at a bar when i'm there and this guy starts beaking me at this bar so i poke him in the chest and now we're going to have a little well what's tit-a-tat I don't know how to say it that's a tett to donnie brooke yeah yeah yeah we're gonna shoot the dukes and gagino and his bartender buddy bernie come flying over the bar they just pummel the piss out of this guy so instantly i'm like these are my buddies

yeah free tickets for the next game and now our kids are on the same team come on school yeah same school not same team sorry but they played ball together on same same tell me he's still working at the bar that'd be awesome he owns bar downtown he's yes yeah he's getting rich off bars downtown he owns a pizza joint he's living it dino we need to do this trip to buffalo we got to catch up with this old pal of ours well i was and a what's here's there's boom boom you know uh you know climpkey yeah he his kids played hockey together in the these crazy tournaments like in Quebec and all over. Yeah, yeah.

Three or four years ago, they were texting me. Hey, you know, Gagino. So now they are like long lost buddies. Okay. Well, we're going to put it, put a pin in that because I have an idea for, you know, you're talking Buffalo, whatever. It, it all ties together nicely. It's going to.

Greg from Bon Ton, it all comes. All right. It's meant to be. Okay. But we have, our NHL insider, of course, is Frank Serrivali. Now, he's based out of Philadelphia, of course. I think people know that. And he, last week, I was texting, he was like, are you going to these Phillies games?

The crowds looked like they're unbelievable watching the Phillies. Like, oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm going to like games two, three and four or three, four and five or whatever the hell it was. And wild, thousands and thousands of people in Philly. And I see Frank on TV the other day. No. Did you, well, I think we have the video. Sarah Valley may not even know this.

that it was, I forget which, I think it was after the game the other night. Okay, we don't, we don't have it. That's unfortunate. You were on top of one of those street poles and people were throwing you beer. I thought they greased the lamp posts and that in Philadelphia, but you were undeterred. You got up to the top of it. The cops were waiting for you. You're very nimble, Frank.

Yeah, you know, my dad said just, he had one rule as a parent, keep your kid off the pole. and I just did not work for me. And despite the Criscoe being greased, three greased, honestly, I'm surprised that the pole held up. I was a little nervous. That is, it's, it's because it's a true, it's a real thing. I remember after the Eagles won the Super Bowl, it was a big deal.

You had to grease the polls and people were still somehow getting up and then to use three limbs, catch a beer and drink it. Like this is, we got some athletes out there. And are there other cities where this is commonplace? There's Frank Lord. There is. NHL insider. Anywhere for scoops.

Let's go. So true story. Phillies win the World Series in 2008. And I was part of the revelry. Actually just a block over from here. They took down the light post and the traffic lights and everything. Like it was total mayhem. And because the traffic light was down,

they were kicking in the traffic. traffic lights and the Phillies red. I wanted a piece of the traffic light, the red traffic light, to take home with me a little souvenir. So stupid me after 27 beers, I reached down and I try and break off a piece of this traffic light. And at some point, I get absolutely jacked up by a police officer with a nightstick, the old Billy Club. From the side, never saw it coming. I went flying like 15 feet ass over two. tea kettle just absolutely laid out. And I was like, wow, that must have been really fun for that guy to just absolutely jack up an unsuspecting kid trying to get a little just be sizing you up to. Yeah, this guy. Was it was it the big boss man? I don't know, but I turned around and I was like,

that was good. Like you got your money. Now this like honestly, are there other cities where greasing lamp polls is commonplace whenever a championship or a celebration might be happening. I feel like it's only in Philly. Yeah, I don't think so. I'll send you guys this video. Honestly, you couldn't even play it. It was that crazy. But like from five minutes away from where I grew up, there was a lot of revelers out on the street after Sunday's win. And the things being said by like seven-year-old kids on camera, like it was unbelievable. It was really proud to be from here. You know what, though? And Warner, we have to find that photo.

One of my favorite photos from Warner's career is him sitting in the penalty box in Philadelphia. Now, do we know, was it the new ring? I think it was the new ring, right? It wouldn't have been. It was a new ring for sure. Yeah. Because I only played one year in the old rink. By the way, Frank, I kicked the piss out of the flyers that year, went in and ended the spectrum in double O.T.

Mike. Huff. on Ronnie Hextall. That sounds awesome. Leaching. Hextall. There was a level-headed character. But Warner's sitting in the penalty box,

and he's like motioning over to the beer guy to bring him over some beers. And there's some of Philly's finest, some big dudes, some big strapping dudes in behind. And they're laughing. It's a perfect photo because it's Philly. It's Warner. It's these dudes. It's the beer guy. a perfect shot. There's something very lovable about Philadelphia, even though if you go there,

there's a good chance you're going to get punched right in the face. See, I think that's so overblown. I think you have a better chance getting punched in the face in Boston. Like, I think there's way meaner towns than Philly. For whatever reason, we just have the reputation. Like, there was an awesome story last week with the Phillies. There's fans in the outfield that just struck up a conversation with this teenager who took an Uber to get there from Delaware, which is not close, like 45 miles away, took an Uber to get to the game, saved up, bought his own tickets because his dad had recently passed. And his dad was a huge Phillies fan and wanted to go, these guys that sat near him and struck up a conversation brought him to all

the games in the next series. It's, it's an awesome place to grow up. Honestly, you can't think of a better sports town in on the planet. I've told this story. And there was two, it was two Philly moments on the same i went on a on one of the flames road trips we're in new jersey and i forget why we had a i guess it must have been a client trip or something but we we had one of the sweets in the end zone there at the prudential center and just kind of talking with some of the other some of the fans that were there and they're like oh so what are you doing you're from calgary you're going on the road trip so where are you going from here and i said are you from jersey or you're from you're from you're saying no no i'm from i'm from philly it's like oh we're we're going to philly and then to pittsburgh oh you're going to pittsburgh

yeah tell sydney crosbie to fuck off i may not run into them but if i do i'll be sure to pass that along i'll let them know yeah and then we go to philly and it was american thanksgiving so it i forget what day it was it was because what is it is thursday the drunk night or wednesday you guys have like nine days off wednesday yeah one gets absolutely tanked on wednesday okay so it was thursday yeah so it was thursday flames are going for their skate at one whatever, 11 in the morning. And there's two guys at the Wells Fargo Arena, which it was at that time, or whatever it was. So they're letting the team in, but they weren't going to let us in. Do you know it's Thanksgiving? You guys need to skate today? Like, what the hell's the matter

with you guys? Don't you know what? They were pissed right off that the flames had the gall to come in and skate. So they had to let them in on this day. The next day after that is the the matinee game. flyers they always have that that whatever it is one o'clock black friday am yeah and that was the one where pronger it goes to overtime pronger's with the flyers and he's kind of doing one of these things in front of kiprosoff remember avery was the first guy to do that in front of go doer yeah so pronger's kind of doing this putting his glove in front of kiprasov's face they score place goes crazy goal gets called off boo shit thrown on the ice start start the game again Hussalia's or somebody scores to win it.

Oh, like just more shit in the ice. There's these two women that are wearing flames jerseys. They're from Calgary. And they are as a mother and daughter going to every visiting rink. That's the kind of their bucket list thing. So this weekend, they happened to be in Philly. The verbal barrage that those poor ladies took on the way out of the rink that day. I mean, it was see you next Tuesday.

It was you dirt. Like, anything goes in Philly. I felt so bad for these women. But you know what it was? You throw batteries at Santa Claus. It's like, I love this town. Ever since, I've loved Philly. Love it.

When I was eight years old, I took my buddy to a Eagles playoff game. He was a diehard Packers fan. He wore a Brett Farr jersey. Big mistake, even if you're eight. Playoffs. He got spit on the entire game. game like literally from start to finish. Yeah. Do they have a jail cell in the new football stadium because that was it was legendary, right? They had a jail cell in the the basement of the old football stadium. Yeah. You got to go to the clink at the link. That's what you do.

Yeah. Hey, I don't want to change the subject because I know you guys love talking about my hometown, but I just want to invite myself. Like if you guys do end up going to Buffalo. I am I want to make the trip. Well, we were just yeah. And likewise, now that we've heard these Philly stories, that's got to be the second road trip after Buffalo. Hey, and I don't want to put this on your radar or anything, but the Calgary Flames, you said Thanksgiving, they are in Philadelphia Thanksgiving week. And I know this because my son is playing at the intermission that night. My, my 8 U team, Calgary Flames in town, are going to, are going to see if we can pull some strings, get a little pregame pep talk from uh brad tree living or someone from the flames organization because my guy's going to need that so and then here's another one for you now i don't know what frank

thinks that the bills are going to make the super bowl but the flames play in buffalo super bowl weekend come on i don't know if my liver's ready for that's good i'd have to do some serious prep work between now and then to get myself prepared for that we have faith in you frank yeah because of course super bowl is in phoenix yeah and then you've got waste management in that or do we go to buffalo i know what's going to be easier on the wallet yeah but equally hard in the liver maybe a little bit easier on the on the old wallet just kind of tie go to the direct flight Frank, great shelf, by the way. It's very close to you.

It's the Frank Sarajevoi starter kit. You got a really nice shoe cubby there, Rhett. Yeah, geez. Yeah, he called me this morning as well. Maybe I'm going to paint the wall. What should I do? I paint it whatever. You know, put something in the back.

Good start. That's about an hour and a half. it. There's this website. It's called Wayfarer.com. And when they're not selling children on there, you can actually get really good bookshelves behind you to put behind you. Yeah, it's perfect. I don't like the online shopping. I get, then I end up like boomer. I'm buying things I don't need. I got ramps and lifts and jerry cans. I get carried away with it. There's worse things you can be carried away with. It's not a bad thing. long do we have Frank because we're like one yeah when do you got to go it's I don't want to steal time

here but we've asked him zero current NHS because I know you're you it's just a steady stream of it's like staggered every 15 minutes you got something else how long we got you here uh I'm clear I got some time I'll make some time winners winners make time well bank these guys were trying to figure out what the bet was we talked yesterday before the latest Vancouver loss about whether they were going to missed the playoffs. Was it already too late? They're now 05 and 2. No Brock Besser. Quinn Hughes is on the long-term injured reserve list. J.T. Miller can't go to the pumpkin patch. It's just a terrible time in Vancouver for the Canucks. Are they done? Seven games into the season, 05 and 2. Is that it? I mean, not statistically. I mean, that's the crazy thing about the West is they're really like

two wins away from being right back in it. But to borrow a line from Yogi Bear, I mean, it does feel like it's getting late early in Vancouver. And part of it just feels like the snowball rolling downhill, right? Like it's only going to get bigger when you hear the comments from Bo Horvath specifically. And I know there was a lot of frustration on Saturday night after that loss, especially so lopsided. But to hear your captain stand there and say you feel like you don't know if you can win here, ever again. Like that's, that's concerning. The comments from your coach openly questioning your effort, he shows up to practice the next day and doesn't participate at all and just says,

I think we need a little bit of a different voice to run practice today. You've got your president of hockey operations Jim Rutherford on After Hours saying he was asked openly about a rebuild. Like, I mean, that's the word, that's the fan base. I did Vancouver radio last night. I was saying, like how is it possible that fans are like openly and eagerly rooting for a rebuild? Like they would like to see this thing torn down to the studs and are okay with the idea of a decade of darkness because they feel like it's better than being in this mushy middle. And I guess if you look at the standings, they're already at the bottom anyway. So Horvats, interesting because he's a UFA and their captain.

And if he's talking about, can I win here? I mean, that's, I think, an assumption we had was that this team would be competitive and, you know, maybe a bubble team. And obviously, you know, they'd be comfortable getting a deal done or they wouldn't let it get this late. But this changes everything, Frank. If they're not going to be competitive, like, Orvette, is he not, like, right onto a Frank Serra Valley trade chip list here? Honestly, you know, as I've worked through and talking to people around the league, if you're going to pluck one piece off and try and make a statement or send some. shockwaves through your organization, that's by far the easiest one to pry off. The comments, the negotiation that really hasn't been one because there hasn't been much conversation between

these two sides of late. The frustration from his part about the lack of activity on the negotiation front. And then really the fact that teams value Bo Horvad as a talented 200 foot player in this league that really can be a difference maker. So you add all those things up and you say, man, if there's going to be some sizable action moving forward here. If the Canucks stop sort of guarding against this idea of the panic move, which Jim Rutherford mentioned, and really they've been quite patient to this point since he took over this team last year, that that would be the guy I'd have circled. And I wonder when you hear a player say something like that, and Rhett, you'd be able to speak to it better than me. But when you hear someone publicly voiced frustration,

The first thing I thought was, this is a guy that doesn't want to be here anymore. That's the first thing that came through my mind, but I don't have any confirmation on that. Wow, but that's how they say it without coming out and say it, right? That's exactly what I was thinking. That's how you send the message without being the putts that's into media going, get me out of here. And if I can follow up more, it felt like they had a nice run of positive momentum with with bending out. They get a larger, more diverse front office.

But now, like, what is it? Rachel Dory's disappeared now speaking through a lawyer. Like, it feels like they're right back into the, this team is incredibly dysfunctional vibes from that small spell of positivity they had. Yeah, and I really think what maybe speaks to the dysfunctional part more than anything is the comments that came from Jim Rutherford really before after hours last week saying, our start isn't surprising. What?

Like, what do you mean your start's not surprising? Like, your team has stumbled out of the gate and he was saying, well, we had a bad camp. How often is it that you hear a general manager or a president of hockey ops admit that your team had a bad training? Who's to blame for that? Is it the roster that's assembled? Is it the players? Is it lack of effort? Or is it lack of structure?

He also seemed to key in on that structure word when talking about the injuries that they've had. said when you have a ton of injuries like, you know, that's an excuse that losers make. But he said, when you have that, you fall back on your structure. He seemed to indicate that there is none. And I think when you, you know, sort of go back and take the 30,000 foot view on this team and say, okay, where are they heading? What do they have now? What's next?

There's a lot of question marks there because they've essentially taken that team that they inherited last year that had so many struggles out of the gate, then kind of doubled down on them this summer didn't improve the defense. You had a couple signings in Kuzmanko and Mikhail. And then all of a sudden you're in a spot where, you know, you re-signed J.T. Miller and are bringing mostly the same team back. You know, different scenarios entirely. But I just remember last year, that rough start that the Islanders had. They had, what, 13-game road trip to start the year and they didn't do well on it. And then injuries came. And they were a perennial playoff team. Two trips to the Eastern Conference Final before that.

Right. Vancouver is not a perennial playoff powerhouse. And it took the Islanders down last year. It seems crazy. To your point, it's math being what it is. Of course, they're not out of it. I don't see, I just don't see them recovering because of what's going on in the division. Now with already, Hughes is hurt. Bessor's not right.

Yeah. I just, I don't. Vives too. I don't, I think they're, I think they miss. I think they're done, which is crazy. Before we let you go. any shock to say that they're in big trouble. How about that? I mean, if you look at this group with the defenses they're currently assembled,

like if you were going to say this team's going to find a way to make its way back in, what are they hanging their hat on to get there? It's not the inconsistency in their offense. You know, Thatcher Demko, you know, you could say that's the path forward, but for a team already over-reliant on him to then take some defense pieces out of their lineup, like it's already thin to begin with. So before we let you go, in the spirit of Philly and in the spirit of our conversation, I mentioned the photo that just kind of to me. Yes.

Emulated Philly and with retro and all of that. Apparently, uh, somebody dug it up. This is one of my favorite. You think about runs to the Stanley Cup final on three different occasions. This is my favorite Ret Warner photo. One please. And look at the dudes in bald head goatee with the hats, the flyer stuff. And they're loving it as Warner, of course, in the box.

Drink, please. Although only one. Apparently you didn't two minutes, only time for one. It worked. They were, they were all, they weren't all over me, but they were typical. They were giving it to you a little bit. And then I forget, obviously I'm ordering something, but it was good. It was one of my favorite Philly moments, too.

You got two rows going there. Like, this is unbelievable. Because that's the thing. You'd love to know what kind of. what were you getting from those guys on the way in and then that you could take it like see philly lovable guys after all what up town thank you frank good to talk to you see if frank have a good week yeah good hang with you guys have a good one go phillies let's go phillies all right we're adopting the Phillies now for frank is yeah man why not we're not

we're not going to cheer Houston I agree and then we'd be the better team but we can't cheer for them no now while we were talking about it I said come into that segment about buffalo or whatever else it it struck me for how many years warner had you been wanting an RV to go on road trips to go and do the show yeah you know who's got an RV Greg Keller from bontan meets no did he remember we had lunch with greg and he showed us the photo it's to the the rodeo there he was telling us about yeah i'm trying to remember if it's an rv or a fifth wheel by either way but keller went and bought this uh i think he was going to take it because he loves the stampeters with the uh

tailgating the tailgating and that he shows up there every game and he's got all the big spread he bought this RV thing he's like see or let's go let's do the thing let's go let's do the thing bontan meats fill that thing full of meat pies and whatever else and let's do this thing we're going to buffalo you got room at your shack there for uh the great Keller RV we'll make group we'll figure it out it's the boss razor buffalo yeah it all something run what's the run you drive the trans answer or the cannonball run yes yeah we'll get there the bandit run the bontan oh the bandit i'm sure yeah there you go i'm not sure if greg uh i'm sure you'd be down with it you know we just volunteered him for it so let's go 28 pro foot sirs rickleth's easy that's easy

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14% per, I believe this is Dom Small, the athletic, which is not good and a significant drop from where they started the season. But you'd think their next game, Seattle, Thursday on the road. If they go down there, like, what's off limits? Like, when you hear the GM talking about structure, and you hear the GM talking about a bad camp, Like is that not direct runs at a coach they didn't give an extension to and made come back on the second year of that deal? Like this is weird. Is that what Frank said?

Didn't Frank just say the coach stayed off the ice? Because it's a different voice too. All that is that? Like it's just all the cap together. Tapping out. Oh. And they're in Seattle, which is going to be their biggest rival over the course of, you know, the next ever. You lose there.

And J.T. Miller, what did he say yesterday? If fans want to throw shit in the ice, go ahead. You pay all this money to come to games. If you want to throw your stuff in the ice, go ahead. We can't control that. The jersey throw is a stupid thing. It used to be very symbolic, but now it's overdone. Seven games into a seat, you're throwing jerseys.

Well, if they are done through seven, this is the time to throw it. I was there first. I did like the ego toss. Was that Toronto? Someone just rifled some egos on the ice, and it was just so ridiculous. And over the top, and you're like, yep. That's the leaf season of the nutshell.

Egos. You're a clown if you're bringing egos to a game anyway. So come on. I mean, I just don't know, like really what can you do in Toronto? It's like if you really want to teach the organization a lesson, it's not like you like turn your seats in. It's like a hundred year wait list. So how can you show displeasure without losing the seats for when they're good again in three,

four, I don't know, throw an ego. Just back to the Canucks. Then we'll move. I don't know why. I, but you talked about it yesterday. What's their defense? Quinn Hughes is on the injured reserve. Tucker Pullman, for what it's worth, is on the long-term injured reserve.

Their D right now is Ekman Larson and Tyler Myers. Riley Stillman, Luke Shen, Jack Rathbone, Kyle Burroughs, Guillaume Breezebois, Noah Jolson. There's a lot of third pair there, isn't it? Well, it feels... Fourth pair. Yeah. Fifth pair. It feels like there's half...

An A HL. Which of those guys would crack the flames top four? Because I don't think there's one. I mean, Quinn, when he's healthy, obviously, but he's not. I'm just, I'm sorry. Like, Myers is a good defenseman in Winnipeg. He's putting a third pair. The right side had, I think,

Buffalo and Truba ahead of him. There was that video the other night. It was not last night, but it was Shen and J.T. Miller kind of snipping at each other, going off, I think, after the second period or whatever it was. Bad vibes there, man. Not good. not good not like in calgary where the vibes are tremendous are you kidding me look at four and one

two to talk about nothing to talk about making any lineup changes just two goal lead who cares we'll just take it right back win the game we had on the we welcomed yesterday one of our new sponsors in madrose pub we're going to give some tickets away we did the social media thing with instagram yesterday throughout this season we're going to have a chance for you to go to games and watch the team and have a good time and we invite you to Mad Rose and go and check it out. The winner from yesterday got a hold reached out this morning. Megan is the winner.

Megan on Instagram did the deal. You got to follow and you got to tag and then tag a couple other people. So Megan is off to the game tonight at the dome to see. Gets he said. The flames and the penguins. How good is that? There you go. We'll be at the game of small day now.

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It's very soup weather right now. It is soup weather. How are you taking in the game tonight, Red? This will be a nine o'clock start, Sabres time. And it is Sid against the flames. And I'm seeing it's on Pittsburgh Sports Channel. Like are you off? Do you want to have wings too? You're going to go out?

I could stop. I got to do a practice at 7.20 Eastern time. So on the way home, I was going to stop. Somebody sent something out on Twitter about a joint, a pizza joint here in Buffalo that I should stop. Maybe stop in and grab a wheel on the way home. That's what I was thinking. And I'd get on my recliner and chill out and relax and enjoy the game. Probably falsely.

Yeah, I fall asleep. That's a problem when you sleep in the recliner. You go to watch a game in the recliner. You're in bed. I mean, now I don't want to, because I know the Pinder report's coming up. You ought to do the Pinder Report now?

You know now. That's great. Because I do want to talk about our boy, Phil. Yeah, I've got some fill notes in the Pinder Report, and maybe you can just dovetail right off that. Yeah. All right. Let's do that.

On top of that, I've got, I promised you the period by period numbers, the Flames goalies. There's one period. They're going to turn the screws on. I don't think it's going to surprise anyone when they hear which one it is. There you go.

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Loves us, loves us F1. Pinda report for Village Honda. Busy night last night. We have Monday night football. Raptors taking their talents to South Beach. penguins and oilers and a firefight and the cultural capital and an update from Kerry Price. But we need to start with the one-on-one pinned a rink from the Monday curling league. An incredible start, rent.

Yep. A theft of one in the first end and four in the second gave this crazy crew of young hip-cats of five-nothing lead. Would that be enough? The answer, not even close. Oh, good. Four, a steel of one, a steel of two, a steel of another three. And in the sixth and final end with the hammer, we get one. It's a nine to six loss, despite a five, nothing laid.

Worst lead in curling. It really is. That's what they always say. So yeah, Dean, we blew it. Sorry. I apologize. Yeah. Sorry, Paul.

I knew you were. I was, yeah, I was on pinned the needles. I'm like, when's pinned or text me with this update from your bullshit curling league? I didn't know what's going on. To the lesser sports. Let's get to the NHL. Some highlights from last night's action, a roller coaster. and Edmonton, Connor McDavid, yikes. You want to talk about emotions? How about down 3-1 and the league's

greatest superstar walks down the tunnel after appearing to bend himself the wrong way around a post? Very quiet to all of a sudden very loud. He returns. They score five unanswered, including a Leon Drysettle backhand that's probably better than most people's forehand slap shots, one-timers, whatever. It's quite something with that canoe paddle he plays with, six three-year final. Remember at the beginning of the year after the first game we saw? We're going to bet the Oilers in there down two goals early, right? Right. Have we forgotten?

Like, there's more money right there last night. What would they have been paying down three one with McDavid limping down the tunnel to the dressing room? And I was looking. Usually they feast on the power play. That's how they get back in that. They were one for three in the power play. It wasn't all McDavid. A lot of dry saddle.

And they looked, they looked deadly last night. And again, is it a high octane offense? Is it too much idling or is this just the Oilers experience? Because we've seen this a bunch now. It's like the Canucks, but it's the other way around. They come back and they win. It's such a long season. You think back to last year.

Remember that big swoon that they went into? Cost the tippetist job. Yeah. Then they make the, you know, they make round three. I don't know. Yeah. I still come back to you. You have so much talent there.

So much talent. Yeah. Up front, any, you can outscore a lot of your issues. You're going to be able to until probably you get to the playoffs, then it becomes a bit of an issue. We'll see. Elsewhere, the senators, after an 0-and-2 start, have won four in a row, thanks to a 4-2 win over the stars. Shane Pinto, Pinto, Pinto, Binto, five games in a row he's scored. My buddy had a Pinto when I was growing up.

Really? Yeah, it was as Graham's Pinto, it was green. We drove the shit out of that thing. The Canucks are still looking for their first win of the year, Dean? No, not last night. not against Carolina. Well, at least they put up a really boisterous effort, 16 shots at home.

Oh, I remember we tried to corner it so hard to pop off the hub caps. We couldn't do it. Those hub caps, it's like they were welded on there. And I'm telling you, we tried. Right,

you fire in Boudreau today? You're going to wait until they lose in Seattle on Thursday. I don't know why they're suffering through this. They didn't want them in the first place. Why didn't they just let them go in the summer and bring in someone fresh? Now they've gone and screwed up their whole season. So let it continue. Who cares?

And the Pinto is not built for cornering. Yeah, fair. In case you need to Google and see what we're talking about. It's a shitbox. Picking up what you're putting down. Join me on this walkthrough, the magical life of Phil Kessel, who often, the start would lead you to believe that the finish was absolutely impossible. Testicular cancer at the age of 19.

He starts his Toronto portion of his career coming off shoulder surgery. That was way back on November 3rd of 2000. 2009. He's not missed a game since. November 3rd, 2009. It's a, I had actually kind of forgotten about, I guess, the testicular cancer and how early on, because then you remember that he had, I didn't realize it was when he was 19. Yeah. That it was, that he was obviously so young. The guy's a freak. We've talked about it a lot on the show over the years. His ability. to shoot and skate and just play the game at a very high level. Now he's getting older, but it was in Sportsnet.ca.

I forget who it was. She wrote the thing yesterday talking to Blake Wheeler and say, yeah, the guy, it was just candy wrappers, piles of candy wrappers beside his bed in Sochi at the Olympics. He doesn't like the taste of water. He would only drink blue, blue Gatorade. We've talked to Verstig about eating shredded cheese all the time. But the guy is one of the strongest guys in the gym. He's been a, he's a pure goal scorer.

And is, I mean, is this a Hall of Fame career? I don't know. I, it's a weird one because the numbers aren't going to be over the top impressive in the sense that he probably falls short of 500 and a thousand. But the Iron Man streak is a huge feather in the cap. I think you talk about, you know, Lindros got in and he couldn't stay healthy. Well, here's a guy who could. I don't know.

Like, again, if they had a standard that was easier to follow, we'd have better answers. But that's a talk for another day. Here's some other notes from the Iron Man streak. He tied last night and we'll break tonight. By the way, I hope Keith Yandel enjoyed his 220-some-odd days. His whole life chasing that thing down and then Phil Kessel steals it for a moment's season later. It was Doug Jarvis for about 30 years. Right.

Okay. It was November 3rd, 2009. 10 shots in his first game for the Leaf. since then 22,034 shifts, 18,000 plus minutes on the ice. It's it's a thousand and 70 consecutive games if you had in his playoff games because he had those long runs and two cups with the penguins. Back when this thing started, Eginla, Lankow and Yokinen were all flames. 831 points since then.

The glory days. I don't know as we call them here. It was the year after Rhett stopped getting paid. So I don't know if that was glorious or not. Bro, I don't know. yeah exactly right uh he'll set the record tonight at san jose which i don't know awesome sure i i they hated you hated when the handle got the record and now you love it that phil does and no no i for me it was the marlowe one i didn't care about the about the iron man good for him man that's that's a crazy

i i can't appreciate retro you can to play that much hockey there's bumps there's bruises the guy played through it it's not like he was playing four eight nine minutes a night he's been a front line player his entire career until the last few years but that's i'll stagger i love i yeah i love what pinder throw the playoff games in there because yeah thousand and get ourselves how much harder is a playoff game than a regular season game like come on deep runs too not like five deep long runs you don't have the time off like that he should be beat that pieces He'd be 1,071 after last night and 1,072 when he sets the record tonight, if you include playoffs.

That's an incredible number. That a boy, Phil. A boy, Phil. Yeah, Phil the thrill. And he loves to golf. Finally. Doesn't he like to go? He likes eating hot dogs, apparently.

I also think he's got just a wicked sense of humor, like the driest of dry. But like, anytime he's got, guaranteed he has the right mindset. He's not going home and stressing over life. No, no, no, no. He ate hot dogs out of the cup. After he got made fun of it. If there's a bigger FU, middle finger. I love it.

And funny. Love it. Okay. Finally, Monday Nighter, the Chicago Bears. Yeah, there's Phil. By the way, we showed a goal from Phil on the YouTube feed. That was disallowed for offside. But he did snipe last night.

Unreal. Monday nighter, Bill Belichick was crazy, crusty after a blowout loss to the Bears. Zappy or Jones, we've got a quarterback controversy. and Bill Belichick was awful in the post-game press conference. Asked about a thousand different ways about it, pretended it was the plan the whole time. But. Yeah, he's,

he was in fine form last night. I don't know how a Bill Belichick defense got, got crushed by that bear's offense. Yeah, they've been a thing. They can usually play defense, right? But they turned over the ball a bunch. And I don't know.

Like, those, I think those are two bad teams. I'm sorry. I do. it's another prime time stinker is what it ends up being true i mean at least there was some offense the over under of 40 and a half was eclipsed basically at half time thanks to the bears offense and our next primetime game will be a grumpy old man tom brady on thursday night against i believe lamar and the ravens so let's get another good prime time game please before the end of the year i don't want to talk i wouldn't mind lamar putting up a few points like that would be okay 10

How are you doing in the old league, Reds? I feel confident because I'm only four and three, but I know what my team can do. Do you know what I mean? Okay. We've had some last week was a throwaway week. Didn't have anyone playing all my bills were out. So moving forward, right, we should be clear. Because you talk to the guys too, right?

You, you kind of said, don't let this loss rally. That's why I moved to Buffalo. He's getting full in on this thing. He's got all the bills. We're still four and three. I like our makeup. Get healthy. Yeah, we're going to be flying.

No problem. I mean, 41 points doesn't usually win you a fantasy week in football. That's fair. That's fair. And that's also your Pinda report. Flames game date tonight. We'll talk obviously again more about that. It's the Penguin 7 o'clock at the dome.

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You're still. I was it. Hope's the worst thing. See, if I never had that lead, you never would have thought you could have won. But you get up five. So well, here's part of the problem. I can see what happened. Yeah.

You weren't fully committed. You went on the five-day bender. You came back. You'd miss curfew. You're hung over. You didn't show up there and have a few pints and get right back into the swing of things. You let the team down. I can tell my leadership is right.

I'm moving myself to third next week. Yeah. The doc's moving to skip. I'm moving to third. It's been seeing the icebox. You were the skip. Oh, yeah. That's why we don't win.

You and Bo Horvatt given up on your team. Way to go. I'm empowering the. those around me, which is what great leaders do, right? Is that what it is? I think so. Yeah, that's good. That's good.

It's no good. I see in the chat, you're going to the Bill's game this weekend. It's going to be a great game, guys. Sunday night, you guys should come. Sunday night against the Packers. The other old man's in trouble. Rogers has lost two in a row. Both those squads are three and four.

We mentioned it yesterday. Neither an easy spot this week. Both have looked very mediocre. They're done. 10 and a half is the line earlier. Let me just hang on here. Take it. Bills are ready to roll.

When the bills are rolling, coming off by, oh. So retro, here in Calgary, just so, you know, the flames are off to a four and one start, tops in the division, it's been very good. The Buffalo game, notwithstanding, they were loose, but there's always got to be something to bitch and moan about. Here, it's what's up with the top line. Hubergo has not scored yet. Yeah.

or the goal tending as Pinder brought up. Markstrom has been very shaky to start games. And I mean, certainly on Saturday, bounced back in a big way. They get... Same with Vegas. That first one was no good. They get a strong third from them. But what's more concerning to you is over the long term.

Do you feel like that top line finds a way to generate more, or is it in net where Markstrom hasn't been good enough for you? to your to your tastes i'm going to take the phil approach and probably not stress over either one of those facts i like seem very very loose and we're really stretching to find something to complain and concern ourselves with i've maybe yeah i'm going to go have a dog and i'm going to chill out i'm going to take phil's approach to life and just i think things will turn out for the best we're just got to carry on keep working blue game Caterade, cheese, no water, hammer some dogs.

Don't sweat it. And see, I didn't realize that even the top line was kind of a thing. And maybe it isn't because if you start. If you start it hasn't been great, but they've been really good on the power play. So I don't know how you separate those things. You can't you're not mad at To Foley. He's been creating a ton of chances. To Foley.

I was looking this morning. To Foley has a three game point streak, Raspus Anderson, a three game point streak. Cadre has points in every game. Their power play has scored in every game. but the Sabres game. If this is, remember it was like Burke, but he gave us shit a couple years ago. I was like, so this is what we're going to, we're going to, the teams here are the tops of the division, this and that and we're going to complain.

This is what we're going to do. This is what this show is about. I just find it hard to, uh, hard to look at anything right now. They've looked very good. I have. I do. From that, sorry, aside from the, the starts. Yeah.

And the first period against Carolina was not good. The starts here and there and the Buffalo game, they were. not yeah okay sure it starts or not start so they haven't dominated every minute of every game oh no that's right shake it up all vancouver's see if we can make it swing some deals here maybe we'll fire our coach they can have him okay uh just to break down the goaltending really quick an 809 save percentage in the first period compared to a 930 in the second and a 907 in the third. Like it's,

it's been ugly early. They've allowed nine goals on 47 shots in the first period of this season, Vladar and Markstrom combined. He's got to change, they got to change their warm-up routine. Come on, maybe some new tunes for warm-ups.

I was going to say, I'm not here enough ACDC in the warm-up. What are we, who's running the tunes in the dressing room? Uberto, get in there. Get your living on the phone. Figure this out. Got to shake this team up.

We got some bets for tonight's game. Do you want to dive into those? You into that? well yeah why don't bet way bets of the day we got uh flames and penguinos from the dome uh we can alternate we have a couple each all right but uh you'd mention nassum cadry points in all games is a flame two plus points tonight pays plus 200 on betway so are you feeling a two point night for nasm cadre you could triple your money okay it's asking a lot and he's been very good you maybe do a an off night it's It's not, you know.

So I was sort of eyeballing that. It's back to back for the penguin. Uh-huh. And like, what? He's going to get a point. And then he's getting empty netter. That's right. Yeah.

Okay. Also, our boy, I think Dylan Duby is becoming like the show guy. He's tight with our boys at Tower. So, yeah. He's a beauty. Local kid. Routing for him, big opportunity. And that lines like dynamite.

No surprise. He's been good. He's been good as well. And anytime goal for Dylan Dubay plus 275 tonight. been around it. I'd take that one, that's a good one. Yeah.

You like that one? And if there's one more that we talked about, you mentioned the power play's been red hot. Over one and a half power play goals for both teams combined. It's minus 125. Flam's getting one. Penguins, maybe two. Penguins get one.

I don't know. There you go. So there's a look at some of the, the whole wagers, I'll bet wait for tonight's contest that I'm leaning on. I don't mind that. So I was on, uh, I was on my Betway app this morning. There's, there's a lot there. There's a lot. There's a lot. There's all kinds of combinations of permutations you can do. Yeah. So I, uh, for, for me, I was, my, my mouth was water and I

wanted some heavy duty parlay. So I want to bring in about 100 grand tonight on a $5 bet. If you can't win the 50 50, let's get 11 team parlays going. But, you know, I went another way. Talking about Jonathan Hubert, though. Four assists. Oh, how's Heuber here? I think he's. Is it tonight? I think he's due three pan three anytime goal for Hubert Doe.

Power, it doesn't matter, power play or whatever. I think he gets one tonight. It's just a matter of time. He's been kind of close to it. He's been on there. Tonight's the night. I like the second bet too. The Rusty Razor or Manjapani to score tonight.

Both are on the power play. Either or I love either or yeah buck 80 sweet give me some now are you a decimal guy are you an American guy in terms of odds so like three you see on the screen there is is gonna be plus 200 that's the difference between decimal in America same odds just you read them both I put in what I'm prepared to spend and then it tells me what I'm going to get back okay that's so you don't care how the odds are framed yeah all right good like what for you what's when you're looking for value what's kind of your

Because you can find some $10 bet pays you $11.50. I don't parley. That's not how I roll. And I really don't like those long favorites. Like I had a couple beers the other night and the stamps were down. I'll put it here. And it's like minus $200. I'm like,

what's the point? Oh, I'm putting down 100 so I can win 42. Like, no. So I like find something that's like feels like a 50-50, but it's plus money, baby, plus money. What about you, retro? You're a big gambler. Yeah, I go with my gut.

You go with the bills. And Lamar, because he's his quarterback. Yeah. It's not complicated things here. Bills. It's the, here's the running joke. We do our NFL picks on the show. Yeah.

So we'll, you know, our text group or our chat thing. It's like, so let's get our picks in. And every week, Wretch's texts bills. Yeah. And it's like, oh, at what number? Just, uh. Just bills. Bills.

Bills. Money line, point spread. What do you take? Bills. Bills. Bills. I'm saying for that graphic we need one of those like locks around the bills and it never moves and there's just two other picks. It's a season of lock.

It's easy. Yes. Will they lose again this year, Rhett? They don't have that tough a schedule. They probably will, but it's probably because they blow a game more than the team comes in and beats them. Yeah, I would say like if there are five games up in the division and it's week 15. Like are we really do they care if they're on the table from after the buy or are they more interested in winning in the playoffs? Like what do you see them do personnel wise?

Do they give Singletary off? Do they let Alan say stop running the ball around? We want to bubble wrap you for a few weeks. They are they are the lovable the lovable team right now. Right. I think that the chiefs they've won that not not everybody's favorite. You've been there, done that. Mahomes that sort of thing. I think that everybody looks at the lovable loser bills finally coming

around. Nobody circles the wagons. A lot of love for the Buffalo bills. Everybody's loving the bills. Even you, kind of bandwagon, Rhett, in a way, kind of bandwagon, if you want to be honest. No, that's probably the only team I haven't ever bandwagoned because I've been cheering them since, what, early 90s when they were going to Super Bowls there. Wow. Yeah. That's where to Rochester. What was that run they were on? How'd they do? How many of crazy to get? We have a lot of similarities in our championship games,

myself and the bills. Frank was talking about how they celebrate in Philadelphia after championships. I thought to ask Red about Buffalo. Right. No, don't go there. Speaking of Ask Ret, that's coming up in a couple days. You can email. We've got the email address is set up. Ask Ret. There you go. Ask Red at

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that way. Or email. Ask Red. Hope Street da, C.A. That's right. Yeah. It's a lot of, uh, it's a lot of food questions. It's a lot of food. Yeah. And it's a lot.

I've got a, I got a brisket. What do we, what do we do with the brisket? We've done that brisket question a lot. It's a lot. I don't think, I don't think I've swayed from it or it's salt and pepper. Like, come on. I know. How's your gravy game going?

My gravy game is out of the. this world good right now. I'm nailing it. Two weeks ago, it's been, career season. It's been about 25 all this week, so I haven't made any gravy, but the week prior, there was about 10 days of rain and kind of cooler weather, soupy kind of weather. And I don't know how many times. Well, I do know how many.

I made it three times because the gravy was so damn good. Chicken and gravy. Chicken and gravy. Chicken and gravy. I made my best. It's the get-ahead gravy. We've talked about it. The best one that I've ever made was on Thanksgiving.

It was better than the bird, the gravy that I made with the juices from the bird. Really? I had the two vats sitting there. I said to my kid, give it a taste, which one? What do we do here? Do we blend the two? He's like, I just go with that one. Stick with the winner.

Yeah. Unbelievable. I think we need to do that. We'll do it for the show, maybe kind of like a special episode. We'll get you in your kitchen. I'll go into mind. We'll do our get ahead gravies. Show them how it's done.

Seasonal special. Yeah. Holiday special. Prince. I like gravy? Just to make gravy? You ever make gravy? No, I've never made gravy before.

Because this is kind of new world right with Princey. What the hell are these guys talking about? You need to get your gravy. Step up your gravy game. Oh, dude. Yeah. You know what I might too. You know, I'm getting a little older here.

I'm starting to cook cooking some turkeys. I guess listen to ask rat. It's just. food food food in the comments like no one gives a shit about what he's thinking about the buffalo savers they want to know about brisket man so it's all they care about teach me ret teach me have you well i'll work with you i'll work with you i'll work with you too on yeah the swearing and the music and stuff will work with you on that too so well it's a give and take with me and you how's the youtube's going today by the way well we got ret and princy going here you guys

are the ones watching the stream here anything any live action in the chat room today not bad i mean ret's kind of going at some of the guys here so it's it's been pretty good that i've got someone else to clap back at some people here so that's the good stuff you know and i'll let the fans know we're working on it they they want music on the pender report we're working on it guys it's new to us different universe you can't just hammer out copyrighted music yeah it's common guys it's coming guys so don't worry about that show 11 well and in fairness red's one of the one one of the ones bitching on there why is their music it's like a youtube thing it's like you're on the show railroad and us with you doing it you're bitching in the in the thing and you're on the show it's a

mutiny here what's happening no i don't understand clearly it's uh copyright issues okay now i know didn't understand you went the issue you went after cam cams not happy with the non sports talk oh cam you're familiar with the show aren't you pinned a report is all sports you'll love it says red what else have we got here and you know what to everybody who who's reached out. We appreciate you. It's very clear to me that there's some things coming up here in the next few weeks. We've got obviously Christmas is coming.

You talk about being in the soup weather. We're in the soup weather, the gravy making weather. We got some stuff coming as we get into it. We had the boys from South Street in yesterday. We were saying, yeah, we're here. Really, this is into week three of the show. And Braden was like, so only the third week. Yeah.

What does it feel like for you guys? don't really have a head space. It's just I'm just focused on the show and making sure that we get clients and sponsors and the things logistically are working. Does it feel like more than three weeks, less than three weeks? I don't know. Like it feels normal to be in here now, which is kind of weird because we never were in this room before three weeks ago with lights and cameras in our faces. But at the same time, it's like, yeah, like we're figuring out what is great and what's just okay and it's only you know 11 shows today so

I kind of feel both ways if you'll let me sit on the fence there and you missed a few you're so good at it feels like it feels like nine shows not 11 weird what about you red sitting in the basement but you've been sitting in the basement doing shows forever too I'm just disappointed in

in my shelving unit I saw Franks and I thought I'd done good today and then I saw Franks and I just done the lighting in now you're ready that this is step one will there be an addition for tomorrow's show i think you're going to fill it one by one i don't know i mean tune in tomorrow we'll see what it is i do like the pumpkin it's very good do you have like an old an old cup you can hang in one of them

something gross i do like it's good i could put my trophies something here i have any trophies we're What about your world juniors, your medals and stuff? At all. Those certainly didn't make the trek. No. My nephews have lost them somewhere, I'm sure. Oh, could I take it to show my team?

Yeah, take it. Oh, where did that go? Weird. Sorry, Uncle Red. Yeah. Tomorrow we'll talk penguins and flames. Do we have to feel on this one tonight? You'd like a better start, but you would have liked a better start

for all of them pretty much um i don't really have a feel it's the penguins on the second of a back to back you're probably going to see the backup and you know the flames of pretty darn sound beyond the early foibles that's a my my concern is oh oh oh i don't see i don't know what what to do there how do you know i would turn my mic off and you wouldn't see me doing that or hear you or or hear it for sure but better take another wipe there's white with your talk. My concern with the flames is going to be, at some point, they're going to get sick of playing at home,

and they're going to fall flat. The emotion's going to follow. And was that a little bit? I guess not. They haven't left the province yet. No. We're going to attend. They'll leave in Alberta.

It's, it's heavy, right? So it's probably good that it's penguins and it's Crosby, because there's a bit of a vibe around that team with Malkin and Crosby on it, always. There'll be energy in the building. tonight for sure yeah but but eventually you're sitting at home and you the feet get kicked up you lose a little emotion well and if you're runy or like ubertoe weger like you haven't gone on you've been with the boys yet some of them is like a lot of people there have families and it's

like we're at home we're doing our own thing i always think like these narratives sometimes get overblown but this group hasn't really got to hang out together on the road and including tonight's game They have five more on this home stand. That's right. And there's a ton of road coming up. Like they're back for a little blip in November, but there's two big roadies here before the new year. It's Edmonton,

tonight, Pittsburgh, Edmonton Saturday. So then they've got that kind of break here coming up. They got to go to Banff and do something stupid like you would, Redd. Go do a roadie here. You play tonight and you don't play again until Saturday. Saturday, Sunday, Monday off. Seattle, Tuesday, Nashville, Thursday.

The Devils on. Saturday and then they're off for a quick three game and four night Eastern trip. Too much home games. Too many home games. And then it screws up the rest of the schedule the rest of the way. Terrible. And it's going to be too many road games. We're just going to whine about everything, which is rare.

Yeah, for us especially. Pretty rare for us to have that kind of a mentality. Thanks to everybody for, for being a part of the show today. What are you going to wear it to the game tonight? I don't know. You got a crisp Warner jersey to throw down. No, why are you two losers? going to the game what are you why wouldn't we we were here supporting frontline workers

ret ambulance police and firefighters helping them out that's what we're doing we're giving back giving back to the community right when you abandoned what are you doing today dead beef you lazy prick hey what are you doing tonight falling asleep on your chair yeah we're gonna get in there show them some one-arm push-ups tell them how to stay fit and uh start selling our calendar We are in a suite though, right? We're not in a stance. I'm not sure if it's without the sweet, the food. Anyway, tomorrow we'll have a full post-game reaction from this game, which I know you and I.

It's going to be good. Lots of sports talk tomorrow. Lots of sports talk tomorrow. Lots of sports talk. Settle down, Cam. Talk about being grumpy. Settle down. Lots of sports talk for you tomorrow.

Thanks to everybody for jumping on, whether it's the podcast, whether it's the YouTube's. Appreciate you. Well, this nation every day. It's coming up next on the YouTube. See you, buddies.