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And away we go.
It is Barn Burner here on another chilly, chilly Calgary day.
It feels colder today than yesterday.
And yesterday it was bitterly cold.
Is it colder?
Yeah.
Because if it feels colder and it is colder, I'm just,
well, I don't know, maybe I'm feeling things that aren't real.
My emotions could be factoring in.
You know who's here to warm your spirits?
Who's that?
Look in the middle, the Redster.
There's the Rettster.
He is very, very much in the,
The weather outside is frightful.
Right.
The fire is so delightful.
If I had a drink in me, I'd probably pee, probably pee, probably pee, probably pee.
It's beautiful.
Yeah.
Wow.
There's Red Warner.
It's lovely.
The flames last night.
Get it done once again.
We'll talk about the matchup.
In a little bit, there are some things we need to discuss.
We're going to have our NHL Insider coming up momentarily.
Um, but social media is a funny thing.
It makes the world smaller.
You can just go on the internet and you look, so, well, this is what's happening here.
This we saw this morning.
Yeah.
Someone on the other side of the world, you can tell them you hate them and they're wrong.
Without knowing what Rhett was doing today, we kind of know what Rett was doing today as he
took to his Twitter this morning and shared a photo without really much of a, uh, much of a
description.
If you're watching on the YouTube, you can see it now.
Can we zoom in a little?
He's in.
Now, I thought maybe at first, blood donation, but I looked a little bit closer and it looks like there's a arm donation.
A bag of fluid hanging and now I don't know. I'm not sure what's happening here, but you look half asleep.
You are in a leather recliner with your feet up, a Tim, Tim Horton's coffee cup in one of your hands.
And your arms do look ridiculously. It's stupid long.
Look at those eyes. They're hardly open.
Yeah, so what's happening here?
It's a bad picture.
It's not great, but it's beautiful.
It's terrific.
The Shepler didn't do her best work there.
It looks like you are baked.
Like, yeah.
Woo.
Yes.
Reefer madness.
So what was happening, retro?
I'm not.
Well, in preparation for the big day tomorrow.
The spirits of Christmas show or whatever.
The holiday spirits?
Christmas spirits.
Yeah.
I did.
some preventative medicine, some longevity medicine, and I went and got myself a big bag of IV
full of vitamins. All right. I see, I always think about the IV afterwards. Are you guys as
committed as I am? I think, are you committed? No, you get it before, so it's in the system,
so your system works, right, and flushes it out. This is what I'm asking. You're the expert on
IVs. Because in Nashville, when we got completely piled up on that trip, many moons ago,
everyone did IVs the day we were leaving while they were hung over.
You're saying that's not the strategy.
It isn't.
It's better than nothing.
Right.
But it's not the way to go about it.
Preventative medicine is always better than treatment medicine.
Sure.
So.
Now, would you do both?
Yeah.
You bookend the spender with IV bags?
Okay.
Yeah.
So the shoveler took the photo.
Was she also in the bag?
In the bag?
Well, she's been.
shit bombed for a week.
So yeah, she had to get an IVV.
Festive.
Wow.
She's home, right?
She's very festive with all her friends.
She's got her high school old girlfriend.
Has a hard time.
Yeah, there's a hard time putting the bottle down.
So whatever.
I just think this is that.
Look at romance back in your marriage.
You guys are together.
Hey, babe, we want to go drop off the kids.
Maybe go for a cup of coffee, get a quick vitamin drip.
And then I got to do the show.
Why don't just you and I go for an IV bag?
Just the two of us.
Like old times.
Just date night.
Do they have like a two for a lover's special?
Do you get a discount?
It's never left.
Like a couple's massage?
I did get a div bag.
There's a,
I don't know in that picture if you could see it.
There's actually an infrared sauna in that joint.
And I thought about going in there and doing the IV treatment right in there.
Get the heat up.
Get a little sweat on.
Yeah.
The IV.
Man.
Feel good.
if you could, could you just pan down to his arms?
Yeah.
We've seen enough of that face.
Because often what you'll find is when you take an image,
you get stretched somehow and you're converting it.
Like, oh, it was on Twitter and it's kind of,
oh, someone cropped it and outstretched.
That is the real photo right there.
Where his elbow begins, that looks like some go-go dancers kicked up a leg,
but your fingers are at the end.
Yeah, it looks like some magician's trick.
Like some guy's going to come in and cut you in half.
Look, I'm too out of my thumb.
His arm's growing.
Oh, boy.
So anyway, you,
why you got to poke fun.
So you want me to do this social media stuff.
I think it's awesome.
I'm doing it.
I'm living it up.
I'm big time in social media.
And then I get harassed.
No, you're not getting harassed.
We love it.
It's great for the show.
Are you trolling me?
Is that what this is?
You're trolling?
Give Rhett a follow on Twitter at Warner 44.
Should be the Rettster, to be honest.
is the Twitter account.
I should change that.
I know.
I know.
I know.
That's right.
Take you about 30 seconds.
Now, we can bring in our NHL insider, Frank Serra Valley.
He's been sticking around.
Now, the reason that Rhett is getting in front of it, the preventative medicine, if you will,
is tomorrow the spirits of Christmas, we are going to, we're going to have a, we have a menu built.
We will finalize it today.
That's right.
And you, Frank, can join along if you'd like.
Any viewer can as well.
We're going to have the list out there, ready for consumption.
tomorrow. Yeah. There is a list
of holiday drinks and we are going to
start tomorrow morning. Give me a preview. Yeah.
Now it's not a, I don't think
it's confirmed because we did have a last minute switch.
I can confirm that
we have added rye whiskey.
Excellent. If need be. Didn't have rye whiskey on
there. Okay, so we're starting with coffee
with Irish cream, Frank,
right into Mimosa,
Caesar, Paloma, which is a
sneaky underrated tequila, grapefruit juice.
Phenomenal drink.
Eggnog and rum.
You can do a beer to cool off, a glass of rosé wine because we're fancy,
then a Moscow mule and a rye ginger.
Nine drinks on the show tomorrow, the nine drinks of Christmas.
What are we playing bar golf?
Like, what, like, how's this going to add?
We'll see what happens on the back nine.
It'll be the best show of the year and in the history of this program.
It's going to end.
It's going to end in cancellation, Frank.
That's how it's going to end.
Yeah, Rhett's very worried about this.
What are you just itching to talk about that's going to get to.
you canceled while you're bombed tomorrow.
You dropped a C-bomb for no reason.
I was trying to get the clicks up.
You're going to keep your mouth shut.
You get punched out all the time when you drink.
What's going to happen?
I never get punched out.
I get threatened to get punched.
You do, yeah.
That's close.
No doing of your own that you don't get punched out.
Just the better judgment on the other half.
A leg drop you.
Hogan leg drops in studio.
That can happen.
So can we bring you on tomorrow, Frank?
Maybe about the Paloma Caesar mark can get you caught up?
See, the Caesar is going to be difficult for me because I can't properly do one here without the Clamato.
We're talking about it.
Like, Americans that you guys enjoy the Bloody Mary, but it's just not even close to the Caesar.
It's okay in a pinch, but goodness, it's not the same stratosphere.
This is like comparing a third line checker to an All-Star.
Come on.
Why can't you get Caesars down there?
It's the clam juice that throws everyone off.
It's just, there's a weirdness to it.
And I got to say, like, you should really think about the order in which you're doing this.
It sounds like a trip to Hartburn City.
Maybe you should mix in the Caesar at the end.
Well, it has to go in at some point.
And we really don't like this idea of the eggnog, but we have to because it's the holiday spirits.
Speak for yourself.
I'm ready for it.
I'm ready, too, but I don't know where to put it.
That's a lot of dairy early.
Did you give Frank the rundown of all the drinks?
Yeah, we ripped through it.
That was nine drinks pretty quick.
that we dance through.
Do you have a staple that we're missing?
Would you have a margarita in there, Frank?
What would you do?
Oh, my God.
I'm just getting nauseous thinking about all those things
going into your stomach at once.
What's the line?
Beer, liquor before beer, you're in the clear.
Beer before liquor gets you sicker.
We're doing both.
So I don't know what the rhyme is.
Licker before.
Yeah, liquor after beer.
Maybe ease into it with a little red eye to start.
I think that's so underrated.
So that's the tomato juice and the egg.
Are we adding booze to that?
No, so I go no egg, just tomato juice right into the beer.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry, I was confused.
Beer and clam.
No, my buddy, Murray.
It's a nice little way to, it's a way to ease into it.
Yeah, that's a good hangover killer.
I'm telling you, Frank, that's, I like that.
But again, if you can get the clamato juice, the beer and clam is an improvement over just the plain beer and tomato.
I'm going to go to the store today.
I'm going to see if I can find myself some Clamato.
Get closer to the border.
If I can, I will participate tomorrow regardless,
but I'd like to do it with a proper seat here.
Yeah, just watch along at home.
We invite everybody.
Be part of the show tomorrow, vicariously,
through the internet.
We'll have a lot of fun.
My buddy Merle said, hey, just,
have you thought about the firenog,
which is the eggnog with the fireball?
The cinnamon gives it that kind of Christmassy,
so you're really doubling up on the...
I could see that dancing together.
I've never really felt like fireball's a mix.
It just seems like it's there for shoot for being fireball.
That's it's birdie juice.
Guys, I have a confession.
Oh, oh.
I'm not allowed to have fireball in my house.
This is a really weird and sensitive admission to make,
but whenever I have fireball, I cry.
Oh, cry.
I get very emotional on fireball.
I don't know why that is, but I mean,
I used to drink it by the gallon, so that might have something to do with it.
Did a family member perish in a fire?
What's what happened?
Why you get emotion?
I think that, uh, I think you're going about this all wrong, Frank.
And when those emotions come up, you have to let them out.
And you got to get to the bottom of that.
So I think you should start to consume more fireball, especially tomorrow.
Yeah, it's not bad.
The only thing.
My wife said if I ever see you buying fireball, we're getting divorced.
So maybe I should hurry up and run to the store.
Now, maybe, just the thought, is it the fireball or the amount of the fireball?
I feel like maybe this is a physical or emotional unfairly.
It might be both.
See, I'm glad I'll tell you this, but I wouldn't tell her.
I'm that guy that they have at like the, even the beer store now, which we have weird liquor laws here.
But you can buy the little fireball nips, the little, you know, it's like the best dollars.
store purchase you can make.
And I'm the guy that
will bring a 10-pack on ice
for the boys when we're playing golf.
Nothing better than an ice-cold
fireball nip as you're out on the course.
You do have
some of the dumbest damned laws
concerning booze ever.
Have we talked to you about this?
In just Pennsylvania? Just the state?
It's really bad. I was in Wilkes.
I was in Wilkesbury
with my kid.
And so we grab that
night where all the parents are going to grab a couple k i'll grab some booze from the store what
do you guys want everyone sends a list you can buy one case of beer at a time you got to buy a case
one walk it out to your truck put it in your truck walk back in get another one you can't buy booze
and liquor like you can't there's a certain amount you're allowed to buy at one stop you can't even
get booze and liquor in the same store you have to you beers in one
one store and then there's a whole separate liquor store like you got to drive somewhere else to go to
the state run liquor store this is almost as bad as Ontario which is a nightmare that's the worst
place to try to buy booze on earth it's like is this a drug score why am why am i getting treated like
this yeah but at least in Ontario you can buy more than you can buy two bottles of booze
unless it's like a holiday at 5 p.m and you're like oh well i guess no one's allowed to have a
holiday drink i had to plan for this head of time apparently anyway so how does this work in
Alberta, can you go to the gas station and get like a pounder while you're no when you're 12 they hand
There's stores everywhere and I think it's a 10 a.m till two basically 365 days of year. So it's not complex you a beer liquor same place not in corner stores, but they're everywhere
I believe you have that to me would be dangerous like if you you know you walk into the gas station and you know, just grab a pounder and I'll have one on my way home like what would stop you from doing that well I always thought the same about
about a Walmart.
You go to the super centers
at the target or whatever.
In the States, yeah.
I grab some gotch.
I need some detergent
and a 40 ounce
bottle of Crown Royal.
Yeah, you're at the CVS in Vegas.
You can just pick up
two cases of booze
while you're getting your,
whatever else you're getting.
It's convenient.
Thanks.
So anyway, hockey,
eh?
I'm in.
All right,
holiday spirits.
What do we want to talk about?
Yeah, what's hot, Frank?
We asked you off there
how Torch was going in Philly, but it's not unsurprising.
It's, they're not that good.
And you benched Kevin Hayes the other day.
Yeah.
Still not kind of picking up what John Tortorella is putting down there.
I mean, I think when you, we just actually handed out some stocking stuffers on Daily Faceoff
Live just before this show.
And I got John Tortorella a tank top because that's all he's done this year is flexes
muscles.
Yeah.
And I guess at, at.
a certain point, I understand the accountability factor if you have repeated turnovers that
you'd like to see addressed. But in back-to-back games, when you healthy scratch, a 60-point
defenseman who, by the way, and Tony DiAngelo played every night last year for one of the best
teams in the league in the Carolina Hurricanes who didn't feel the need to nitpick at his
game and just let him do what he does best, which is score points and do it on the power play,
to then the next night bench your leading score of your team who is playing.
near a point per game for the first time in his career that I think and Rhett would know better than
me at a certain point while you're in that dressing room you're you just look at each other and
what actually is the objective here? What are we trying to do? Is it John Tortorella and the letter of the
law and you're going to live in his world or are we actually trying to win? And I get that the flyers
in the standings probably are trying to set the tone but the way that he's going about it I think is
really questionable.
It's almost like year one.
That wears itself thin, quick.
Wow, but still,
if you're benching, it's one
thing to make demands. It's another
thing to healthy scratch and bench
guys that are actually
producing too, right?
And that's the thing.
These are
some highly paid
players. Like these aren't the
bottom six plugs that
you can boss around and make an example.
of and I think maybe you do it once and message sent but then when you kind of keep doing it that
I think the message gets lost but he's been really clear in sending one this year from a philadelphia
perspective since training camp on he john torterella if you're reading between the lines has gone
at the throat of jm chuck fletcher no less than 20 times you guys got a little taste of it it was
very brief and darrell sutter questioning the depth and then he kind of also went on the
Hey, you know, we used to have 340 goal scorers kind of thing.
That was also a veiled shot.
But this has been consistent right from the start.
We don't have any talent.
And he's made that very clear to anyone who will listen.
And I mean, do you want to be the GM?
I mean, I guess you could ask that question of Darrell Sutter, too.
Do you just, we should just hand you the title then.
Yeah, we've seen that here.
He's better coach than GM.
I think we'd all acknowledge.
Here's one yesterday on the Pinda report.
had the board of the math, the mathematical odds of winning the lottery,
or at least the last place team.
Baderd Watch.
Connor Baderd Watch.
Who do you want to seek at him?
Not who's got the best mathematical odds, but you know who's near the bottom.
Amongst the bottom dollars.
Which market slash team slash fan base, whatever, would you like to see get Conor Bader?
I'd actually like to see Chicago.
I just think the way they had it for so long,
To be able to kind of symbolically pass the torch from Jonathan Taves to Connor Baderd,
I think would make a lot of sense.
You're starting to see in Chicago now 12,000 fans a night back to what it was in the early 2000s.
And it was an ugly scene.
It was a forgotten franchise for a long time.
And then when they had their success and won three Stanley Cups in five years,
that you were thinking, okay, this team and franchise is going to be on the map forever again.
and they're kind of quickly falling back to that
after a number of years not in the playoffs
and sort of not being relevant.
And this is going to be such a big year for them at the deadline
that I could see a natural sort of passing the torch.
But honestly, it's easier to tell you which markets
you'd rather not see him in.
Give us that.
All the ones that are, yeah, I mean, it's Arizona, Columbus.
I mean,
Anaheim, San Jose.
Ottawa.
Like go down the list.
Like they've all had opportunities.
I mean,
San Jose would just be a fine,
but anonymous.
Like they're not a needle mover, right?
Yeah.
No,
and they play too late to influence the league, right?
Nobody in on the East Coast is,
like last night was a perfect example.
I'm in Buffalo.
Flames game starts at 10.30.
Like,
yeah,
and then the anthems get on.
He was watching Connor Badaard at 1030 at night.
That's,
it ain't happening.
We hate to.
Although another thing was brought up to me.
You didn't watch the game last night?
No, I actually watched a couple of periods because I was getting bombed.
But what's happening with kids these days is that apparently,
and we've been talking about-
That's why you were getting the IV today.
It looks good.
You said you were doing preventative maintenance.
That was,
that was treatment medicine right there.
Bombed is not obliterate if there's a difference.
I need that.
Anyway.
It's that list.
Yeah, where's the Amber Alert?
Where's bombed?
Where's,
bomb sounds like more than just
A couple of drinks.
Yeah.
Anyway,
so we continue.
This is completely off topic, I guess,
but it's a little bit.
Does it matter so much?
Because kids nowadays don't sit down to watch a hockey game.
Yeah.
They watch highlights and social media.
They watch highlight clips on social media and hear various stuff.
But to get a kid like we did,
Saturday night,
Frontier,
sit down, watch the game,
that is not happening
for very many kids that are interested
in hockey. It's all clips. So maybe
it's not as big a deal if he's playing
in San Jose.
I don't know. I think San Jose is in a
spot where, you know,
I also think there's, and
maybe this is an exact reason why people
would say not Chicago because there's some karma
at play. I truly
believe that in terms of the
lottery results.
But San Jose to me has been like a denier in terms of the spot that they've been in.
They've misrun their franchise for the last number of years, thinking that they were
turn it around and become competitors.
And they're just, this is going to be four straight years in the lottery territory.
And yet they re-signed Tomash Hurtle last year to an eight-year deal.
Like they've sort of thrown good money after bad and now they have a new GM and Mike, Mike
Greer, who's going to clean some of that up.
but it's going to take a while.
And so they're going to have many kicks at the can,
I would think, in terms of getting a number one pick.
Do you find it entertaining that I don't know if other sports are different?
We're so hyper-focused on the NHL,
but I would say like the vast majority of hockey fans talk about the draft lottery
as if it's rigged and no one even questions that.
You're like, oh, no, the league doesn't want them there.
And you're like, oh, yeah, okay, it's a fair point.
Like, you're not, what do you mean the league?
You're suggesting it's rigged?
Like, almost every hockey fan talks about it, like, it's rigged.
Like, just maybe do you find that?
that funny? Where does that come from? Is this in all sports? I find it kind of ridiculous. And no,
I don't think it happens in all sports because I've actually attended a draft lottery before where
they go and be sequestered and you have to turn in your phone. And like I know a lot of people
that have been in the room and watch the whole thing play out with the guy carrying the briefcase in
with all the lottery balls and, you know, the combinations I've gone through and done the math in
terms of, you know, what the odds look like for certain teams when the last ball is coming up.
So I do laugh at it, but I think the more interesting part of this conversation is,
and we've seen Bader do some incredible things, I think you mentioned the, yeah.
That might be on our end.
It's a dramatic pause right there.
There's probably a little bit of overhyped, but it comes up.
and generational talent.
And everyone that I've spoken to in the scouting community that I respect says
Badard is a franchise player, not a generational player.
So not a McDavid-Matthews, but more along the lines of another top-end player that you
might see in the league.
And again, you're not saying no to that.
But I also think there's a chance that this is where this draft gets really interesting
is Fantilli might end up being the better player when it's all said and done than
Bardard.
And there's just been a lot less attention on him.
We're calling it the Connor Bedard sweepst
stakes or draft lottery when you don't know.
Well, what about the Russian kid, Mishkov or whatever, but he's got a deal for like
another two, three years with SKA?
Like, that's an incredible wrinkle with the relationship between Russia and the rest of the
world and that he's got an employer over there.
He can't just leave.
That one I find fascinating.
Well, and even if you wanted to leave, does something end up happening where you
were just talking about the flyers?
They had a goalie that was supposed to come over this year, Fedatav, that was like literally
getting on the plane to come over.
and oh, hey, by the way, you've been taken under custody and you now need to begin serving your
service for your country.
So in the army.
And that's those are all types of things that you fall into.
And by the way, we're also not going to get an up close impersonal viewing of Mishkov as well
because Russia is not playing in the world juniors this year.
So it's just another sort of knock against a guy that might have been going three that is probably
falling a bit further down into the five, six range.
range. What's your take on the Florida Panthers? Thirty-four points that leaves them four back of a
wild card, seven back in their own division. It's a long season, 33 games in. But Chuck's been great.
Yeah, that trade seems to have worked out or has it left them maybe a little thin in the back. And
obviously, I think they're even goals for and against. So their defense slash goaltending has to be
better. But your thoughts on where they sit heading into the break? Well, it was really interesting to hear
the comments from their GM and Bill Zito last week at the NHL Board of Governors meetings.
He did a story with NHL.com. He was talking about how thrilled he is for how this season has gone.
He mentioned things like he feels like they lead the league in bad luck. And yes, they've piled a ton
of shots on opponents. They were averaging 40 shots a game for a while. But to me, that team
something looks off and I don't know what it is.
It's really clear to me that Sasha Barkov has not been the same.
And it's not just from a point production standpoint being way further down.
He doesn't look nearly as engaged.
I wonder how much of that has to do with, you know,
the culture change that's existed there because him and Hubertoe were such a big part of that.
You know, even though they didn't play together on the same line for most of last year,
Does taking a huge piece that's been a way, you know, been there with you since the beginning,
how does that affect you?
I think that's been important.
I think they've just let in way too many goals.
There's only two teams in the east that have led in more than the Florida Panthers.
And that's Columbus.
And I'd have to take a quick peek.
But I had this yesterday.
Columbus and Montreal.
Like, it's a small list.
And so, you know, that's tough.
and I think what's really interesting about the Panthers
when you look at it from a 30,000 foot view is,
and this is part of the reason Bill Zito made these comments, I think.
They're not really gearing up for this season,
which is a weird thing to think about for a team that finished with 122 points last year.
They felt like they were going to take a step back this year,
probably based on the transactions that they made.
But they think, you know, next year, two years from when the trade happened,
that they're going to be in a way better position to compete.
And I would tend to agree because even if the cap doesn't increase by a significant amount
this season, which we didn't talk last week, I'm more convinced than ever will actually happen,
they're going to have $13 million in additional space next year.
And that's with Sergey Bobrovsky still on the roster.
What if they could find a way to move him?
They could be a huge mover and shaker this off season that I think is going to put that
team right back in contention status.
We are not slated to have a show next week.
So we will not talk to you until the new year.
Can I squeeze in one more real quick?
I guess, yeah.
I mean, it feels like it's the soap opera we keep coming back to.
But what do you make of Untouchables lists and who's on them and who's not?
And that through the lens of what has and hasn't happened in Vancouver this year.
I'm not really surprised to hear that Quinn Hughes was considered among the
sort of available players.
But when you think about it,
you know, it would take a lot to get a franchise player,
franchise defenseman like Quinn Hughes is.
You can say whatever you want about him in terms of,
is he playing too much?
What's he like in his own end?
He can do things and move the puck that there's very few people on the world,
on the planet can do.
And so I think, you know,
maybe some people look at some of those question marks in other areas
of the game and say, well, you know, is he the best stylistic fit?
Is he truly ready to be a number one in this league in terms of what the Canucks
would be looking for him to do?
The answer for me is yes.
And I think when you look at his age, he fits what Vancouver wants to try and do.
So I don't know why they'd want to move him, but I think they'd have to at least consider
the possibility that maybe having some uncomfortable conversations is healthy, that, you know,
if you really are going to go in a different direction and you're not.
not going to be competitive for the next number of years, then maybe you should also talk about
trading Thatcher Demko. I think you'd have to consider that at a point as well that, you know,
you've got to go through the exercise and figure out where you're ultimately trying to get to
and what will those pieces look like by the time you actually get to that point. And just looking
at my text messages here, Rhett, I have some news for you. Do you want to make a bet about the Sabres home game
on the 23rd.
What do they have?
Is it canceled?
I'm hearing that there's a good,
very good chance that that game is going to be postponed.
That's probably good for me, Frank,
because I was supposed to go to that,
but there's birthday parties,
there's Christmas stuff.
There's all kinds of things going on.
And with that cold weather and the wind
that was supposed to show up,
I'm probably better situated just to be on my couch.
Yeah, that's because you're going to be in the fetal position
after tomorrow's show.
I'm going to be chugging, what is it that I've got for you here?
It is called the old Fitzgerald.
Oh, sounds fancy.
Love to see it.
There it is, the old fits.
Oh, yeah.
There it is.
11 year old, all right.
Love it.
Merry Christmas, Frank.
Good to have you as always.
Appreciate you.
Chat in the New Year.
You're not getting rid of me that easy.
I'm popping in tomorrow for a cocktail.
Oh, I like it.
All right.
You let us know which one.
Yeah, you let us know where, yeah,
which one we're going around.
We'll under, maybe after the Caesar.
So we'll let you off the hook for the Clamato juice.
We'll get you in after that.
Palma, maybe.
Yeah, maybe.
We'll see how it goes.
Take care, Frank.
You're good to talk to.
Sounds good, guys.
See you, pal.
Talk to you tomorrow.
Frank Cerra Valley, daily faceoff or NHL insider.
Good.
Always good to have.
It's been hired.
He's been busy.
He's been at the Board of Governors meetings.
And then yesterday he was flying back from somewhere and air travel, a bit of an issue.
This time of year?
Yeah, weird.
Yeah.
Weird for sure.
A couple things.
We have,
only there's five home games coming up in the month of January.
Jeez.
Only five.
So your next opportunity to win tickets with Madrose Pub,
we're a ways out.
About a month, the 23rd of January,
is your next chance to win.
That's a big game.
However, it's the Columbus Blue Jackets in town.
Ordinarily, you'd be, I got a ticket.
Who's got the Columbus tickets on a Tuesday?
These ones you might want is that as the return of Johnny
Goddrault to the Saddle Dome
and to the City of Calder.
It's the Goddreau Revenge Bowl.
All right.
Does he owe, who owes revenge?
He certainly doesn't.
Yeah, maybe revenge is the wrong word,
but yeah, that's the montage night.
Yeah, Misty.
Red will be Misty.
Red might be in the Florida Keys by then,
I don't know.
Think about it, to be honest with you.
So that's your next chance to win.
Mad Rose Pop, Bub, and Royal Oak.
20 beers on tap.
We've talked about it.
Great food.
If you're in that area, you need to go.
Okay.
So how many places are actually
frying their wings and then baking them?
Because, like, it,
you cannot compare.
They did dominate any other wing
you could ever have.
We went last week.
I was blown away.
We had the wings,
and they deep fried,
then baked them.
Oh.
And Pinder was off his,
off his rocker.
Crispy, juicy.
I can't go back.
I cannot go to other wings.
after having the fried and then baked.
You can't do it, eh?
Can't do it.
Flames last night played a hockey game in San Jose.
I guess for starters,
we talked about the scheduling being kind of quirky,
as weird,
and I know Rick and Millen,
they were talking about it on the broadcast.
That was not hockey.
Well,
do you mind?
When you talk about,
let's make life easier,
work smarter,
not harder,
is it the worst thing in the world
sometimes for a team
to play,
two games in that city.
Baseball does it all the time.
I know it's different,
but I don't know that it's the worst thing in the world.
I think from a revenue perspective,
it probably isn't great for Gates
if you're selling the same opponent two nights in a row.
So I don't think you want to do it a lot.
Depends.
But for teams and travel, it's better.
If something goes off in that first game.
Exactly.
You have a big event in the first game.
Right. So if you were at the Sunday game,
was there anything you're like,
oh, I've got to get back to this?
No, in this case,
certainly not.
Right.
Like, you're right.
It could happen.
I just don't think
it's going to happen more
than it's not.
You know what I mean?
Like, if you were a season ticket holder
of the flames and you're like,
oh, we've got Minnesota's coming in on Tuesday
and then on Thursday,
Minnesota.
I'm like, hmm.
I guess, but I'm a season ticket holder.
I've got other games.
Not those are the only two I get to go to.
No, and you might swap one out.
I just think I have a inkling.
You have to go to the game anywhere.
Yeah.
I think I'd be as excited to see the wild
in a month from now as I would be twice in
three or four days.
I don't know.
I think it's maybe not as bad as we think.
And this is,
we can get to it.
This was not the one to judge.
These were two very,
that's not any.
Unstructured.
That's not an unstructured hockey games.
San Jose was shamefully bad.
Come on.
I thought one of their only really talented players,
like really good players last night.
I did.
We talked about Eric Carlson yesterday.
We don't need to talk about him again.
He's painful.
But he just, well, that's kind of part of it too.
When you talk about it, it's like, there's just fatigue talking about the same team for a whole week.
Well, for us.
But for Eric Carlson.
Yeah, he's got eight-game point streak and set a record for the fastest.
Still bad.
Still awful defensively.
He would drive you crazy if he was on your team.
Probably.
Absolutely nuts.
Because you see him throw his hands up after the bat.
Yeah, after the turn over.
On the second.
It's like Mike Smith.
It's everyone else's fault.
Well, what the hell?
My winger should have been there.
137 foot.
Oh, man.
The first goal, the Benning play on the rim, and then it gets kept in at the blue line.
Then he's down on one knee and he's kind of sliding towards the net.
Then Carlson turns it away.
That this game was even, I don't know who you blame or who you give credit to,
that it was actually close at one point beyond the 37.
second mark.
Yeah.
I did not see it coming because it just felt like it was going to be another one of those.
And you want to be critical of the flames for letting it get close,
but then they just came right back and stomped them.
It's like,
okay,
I guess like,
does it matter when you score seven if you're scoring seven?
Probably not.
You scored seven.
Okay.
Sharks are opportunistic.
Yeah.
Zedorov kind of bibles one behind his net.
Bang,
it's,
it was a stone that had the bottle?
Well,
no,
it was Zadorov because stone reverses it to Zadorov,
and he just can't handle it for whatever reason.
and then on the Barabanov, it's the end of the period, awful line change.
And it's kind of a broken play that comes to him.
And then on the Meyer play, To Foley, there's two or three guys that have an opportunity to clear that puck.
But I don't know.
Anyone else getting some heavy Mike Richie vibes from Barabanoff?
I keep squinting.
I'm in the pub and I'm like, God damn it, is that Richie's kid?
Like, that is a look he's got going.
I never really focused on it.
I guess I could go back.
That's all right.
I guess I could go back.
More just.
I had a hard time watching that game.
It's,
they're in a tough spot, at least in this room or for this chat,
because if they don't stomp them,
we criticize them for not beating a bad team.
And then if they stomp them like they did,
we don't give them credit because while they were so bad,
yeah, you should, right?
The only thing I think we talked about it,
the way you can grade them is there's four points against San Jose.
How many points do you get four?
Okay, well, we can move on and we don't need to go break the tape, right?
Like just move on.
And my disdain for the game was, I think, mostly based on San Jose and their lack of, like, now I've seen them.
I saw them here.
And now I've seen them twice on TV and I don't care to watch them play again.
It's boring and awful.
I feel bad for the San Jose fans.
It's just not good hockey.
A lot of those seats with flashing lights and not people in them.
Notice that.
There were 10 goals.
If you're a Sharks fan, you can't want to watch that.
They watched playoffs 16 out of 17 years.
This is what happens.
It's cyclical.
Like for all the missteps at the end,
trying to extend that window.
We saw Detroit do the same thing.
You got to remember,
that's almost two decades of playoffs every year.
That's incredible run ahead.
If you're running that team and you're watching this,
because I'm guessing this is how they play,
this we've seen this,
because you said they were in Buffalo,
you saw them there,
we've seen them twice against the flames,
and it's a common thread.
David Quinn, I don't know what you are.
You probably got to go.
I don't think the coach is the, like, sure,
but if you're my career, are you using a bullet already?
I want a good roster before I use a bullet on coach.
But more than anything else, can you not just coach,
bar the door, try and get one on the,
we know our power plays good, give up nothing,
make it boring, one forward up, that's it.
Everyone hang back and let's,
because Rimer's not terrible.
And if you do that, you finish where?
Like, three rungs higher and a worse odds at Bader?
Like, I just don't know what the end game is here.
Eight more points and we F up our draft position.
Like, at least they're scoring some goals.
I mean, I see what you're saying.
They could be more competitive.
But I think big pitcher, they'd love to be bottom three in the league this year and get
into the big odds for the studs.
If Greer likes a coach and he wants to give him a little,
let him coach the way he wants to coach.
You know what I mean?
Like, clearly this is the system.
him he wants to play.
And if he's thinking that long term,
all these guys are going to know how to play it.
And when we improve in three or four years,
maybe it'll go ahead.
I don't need,
because I'll tell you what,
boom,
I'm not going to watch San Jose if they try to batten down the hatches anymore.
He hired him two weeks into his tenure.
I know.
So I don't see any situation as hot here.
Everyone thought they would be bad.
They'd be bad.
And to be fair,
they've got a little found money in the fact that Eric Carlson
offensively is back where he was.
you need to make the most of selling old assets that have any value.
That's how you get better.
The only, if winning games matters right now, then that ain't it.
Yeah, and I don't think it does for them.
Exactly.
Well, two things I want to do.
We got the Pinder report coming up.
All right.
Right on.
One last, because we're right in front of Christmas.
And we've been saying it for weeks.
And we've been just one, we're going to do all more time today.
I don't know what else to tell you.
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You should do it.
Rhett, you talked about it yesterday.
Your shopping was done.
It's a relief.
You know it's a winner.
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One word on their website in the promo code and you'll get 15% off your purchase.
You go to the store.
Say barn burner.
Heard about it on barn burner.
You're going to get 15% off between now and Christmas.
Today's Wednesday.
You got three shopping days left.
It's just me. Do you not see sales on diamonds?
This is some amazing stuff here.
Yeah, I don't know how it works.
Yeah, so this is good. Do it.
And most guys probably don't because I think we're stupid
and we don't shop for diamonds.
So just take our word for it.
You're pretty stupid, but Justin's got things figured out there.
He's got to show you that.
And this is coming up in January.
We're going, I told you a while back, Jasper.
We've been talking about Jasper.
Is that somebody who's in the cooker?
We're going to Jasper in January
for the
23
Jasper Pond
hockey tournament
at the Jasper Park
Lodge
the JPL
January 27th
to 29th
there is
join us
Boomer and Pinder
on the ice
and at the
Friday night
hot stove event
that we are hosting
with guest Frank
Sarah Valley
Wow
Frankie's coming in
from Philly
he's going to
hammer some fireball
for us on stage
and
start bawling immediately.
Frank.
I always loved Ron HX-Tol.
Just getting emotional.
Can't wait.
So that, I mean, it's great for us.
But what we're telling you is you can be part of it.
You can sign up your team for an incredible weekend of hockey
on the pond with us and many other special guests,
activities outside.
There's watch parties, food, drinks, the hot stove event, all of that.
This is going to be a blast.
Visit chehockey.com for more information.
H-H-E Hockey.com.
C-H-E-H-H-E-Hockey.com.
They have lodging.
Oh, yeah.
It's the cabin capital of Canada.
That's right.
It's triple C.
So they said, you know what?
It's not until the end of the month,
but you know, by the time you get through these next two weeks,
and then it's the new year, and then you haven't planned for it.
So what we're telling you is here.
Get it figured out.
Plan now, figure out your life.
Put your team in.
Get your boys and girls, whatever it is.
Get them together.
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Are you available? Are you coming up?
Are you still not allowed back in the country?
Is that my birthday weekend?
You're asking us when your birthday is.
I feel like you know the answer to that.
January 27th to 29th in Jasper.
Right after Gretzky's.
Gretzky's 26th.
Retskys 27th.
You guys have so much in common.
Also check out the website.
Jasper.com travel slash escape.
Lots going on.
Obviously, Martin Mason,
and the cabins.
It's all going on.
We're looking forward to it.
Let's do the Pinder Report.
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All right.
We start with the Calgary Flames Fellows where, hey, it's a second time in three days.
Get your, here's the thing about these back-to-backs.
When it's a team that blows, like they're done a lot of the sharks portion of their schedule.
That's a good thing we can say today.
See, I think you would want more of them.
When can you play the sharks again?
Oh, wow.
Five goals, seven goals, point night, four points.
Four points out of four points is good.
Rets and yours in mind, the view.
viewability rankings much lower than the points off the table rankings.
So I suppose there's a...
You think Daryl, where do you think Daryl's?
Well, Darrell loves going back.
He used to coach there.
I'm sure it's just memory lane for him.
Love beating his old teams.
Retro was getting bombed and couldn't watch the game.
So...
Delecky Pecky's.
I guess we'll move on to L.A.
play the Kings.
Markstrom had one of the new masks he was showcasing
and the Sharks fans were very keen on it.
They gave him the big salute.
If you can see right behind them the reflection there, there's the double birds.
People are welcome to the Bay Area, very friendly.
Yeah, so if you're looking closely, I may not have noticed it if you hadn't brought it up, but I see.
Welcome Jacob to the S-N logo.
The friendly confines of NorCal or NoCal or No-Cal.
I thought they were very laid back.
I thought so.
They must be, what's going on with tech stocks?
They must be angry out there.
It's all those crypto bros.
They're pissed.
All right.
They're getting smacked.
How do you like quick starts, Rhett?
Like 15 seconds in.
Have a peek.
I love quickies.
I love Benning here.
Oh, down, up, sliding.
That's a very nice dish.
Wow.
You're like, okay, that's the start.
All right, good.
The longer stays zero, zero,
the more you hate these games.
That's not going to last long.
What's the dish from Dubet here?
I'll wait until you do the next goal,
and then I do want to talk about 29.
Yeah, okay.
Well, speaking of 20,
Betway bets of the day yesterday.
What did we say?
Good boy, Anthony.
Congrats.
We did this thing.
Holy.
Another giveaway.
Another giveaway.
Yeah, the sharks get around a clinic on how not to defend.
And there's, yeah, Hebrador didn't hit with the power play point, but you know what did.
Oh, so it's.
And Dylan Dube has earned a promotion.
on the top line playing with Lindholm and Tofoli scored on Sunday night.
We'll see if you can do it again.
And Linholm as Tyler Cofoli picks up his 12th of the season.
I don't gamble all the time, but when I do, I take my tips from dumpster divers.
We're on a bit of a heater on some of these anytime goals and first goals.
Those two plays for DuBay.
Yeah.
The puck comes to him.
He then dishes it to To Foley and there he gets the puck back.
There's some confidence, maturity, the fact that he would take that extra,
and not just kind of fire.
I need some, I'm on the top line, I got a score, I'm going to be off the top line.
A lot of poise there.
Oh, yeah, both of them.
You're absolutely right.
It's easy to shoot instead of that tow drag pass on the first goal.
And on the second one, if you were anxious, just get on net, get on net.
And no, no, no, takes his time, tucks it in.
Those are very nice, offensive plays.
Poise.
Happy for them.
But again, it's going to have the sharks, so we can't really give them any credit.
I guess so.
I'm kidding. Everyone plays these teams. 82 for everyone.
Two nothing. Good start. Got to like that. And a Flames record, don't you know, Rhett?
And one of our buddies who we just had in studio, his name gets erased out of the record books.
Just breaks your heart.
Poor Patter. Two goals in 30 seconds. The fastest two goals in Flames history,
surpassing Doug Rysboro and Colin Patterson, bang, bang, 32 seconds in Hartford.
In 87.
Risebrow scored nine seconds in.
Patterson, two nothing at the 32 second mark.
Patterson said he went end to end and he's surprised that it got in by the 32 second mark
because he wasn't that good of a skater.
He was sure it wasn't possible.
He could go end to end and he's nine seconds, then had to get behind the net and he's going all the way down.
So really more impressive is what we're saying.
Probably.
Two seconds, but whatever.
They are.
Sorry, Patter.
Record breaker in studio.
Is there anything left in the Flames record book for him?
Like, I dobs better apologize.
patter.
Man.
I'm not sure how many there would have been, but...
Yeah.
Yeah, that's odd that he's in on any.
Now, we saw...
We saw our boy,
Heronik, get absolutely drilled by Ryan Reeves,
not keeping his head up,
skating right up the middle.
After he saw Ryan Reeves on the ice,
lining him up on the trolley tracks.
This wasn't exactly same,
same, because it wasn't Ryan Reeves.
But what's going on with defensemen
just head down,
not paying attention?
Because the sharks,
Is it Simmich?
Who is it?
Yeah.
Radick Schimick.
Shimick.
And he's like, oh yeah, I'm just going to put my head down, look at my skates for a bit.
Whango!
And if Blake Coleman's 6.5.2.30, that might be the Ryan Reeves thing.
Nice hit at Center Ice.
And you guys said it yesterday.
He said it.
They're so used to not having hit.
Yeah.
To adjust and be ready to get hit.
That's what happens.
Weird.
You know who doesn't?
That team of Rets.
Rets got them whipped right into shape.
That's right.
You come across the middle?
It was heavy.
Heavy hits.
You guys said Gerald was messing with us.
It wouldn't be second line luch.
Daryl again.
Second line luch was just fine.
Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang.
Goal assist plus four.
Two goals of back-to-back shifts for his line.
Two goals and two games against the sharks.
Looch loves playing the sharks, boys.
Let's do this every night, he says.
A little squeaker.
that one didn't even bounce in off the opponent.
They all counted.
Lines are working.
Lines seem to be working.
I don't know that I would have thought
Euberto, Codry, and Luch would have worked,
but it did last night for one night in San Jose at a minimum.
And rats, can I get a little misty here for it?
Are we happy?
Is this, no, honestly,
wait, wait, wait, wait, honestly,
is this good long term that Luch is feeling better?
I want to see it against an NHL team that's good.
So I'm going to reserve judgment until we see it.
It would be tough to suggest that anything we saw last night
would be able to apply that for, you know,
when they play the Oilers on the 27th.
I'm not going to say anything.
We'll see.
Hey, I'm all for guys feeling good.
Yeah, he's feeling good right now.
And that's better when he's feeling good.
It's Christmas.
It's Christmas.
Let him feel good.
It's the holiday.
He's a heater right now.
He's feeling it.
Getting Misty.
Guess who'd turn 43 today, right?
Drinking Fireball?
Yeah, I know.
Monty's birthday
one of the biggest goals
in recent flames history
this would have been number 43 for him
absolutely beloved
for who he was
and then this of course too
there shouldn't have been there
here's a giddler
in the Western Conference final
horrible change here
so good
you can hear him clapping
and you can the beaver tap
you can hear him slapping for it
on the pick as well
by Donovan
Donovan takes out Stewart and Gidlittler with a beautiful pass.
And I get here, monitor, yelling all the way from up here in the press box,
right off the post it in.
Biggest of his career.
Got to be, right?
Craig Miller again.
He doesn't age to them everywhere.
Loves it.
I talked to her.
I text Steve's dad today.
And then we were hanging out with Steve's son, Mo Mo,
the other day.
No way.
So we'll go.
So, yeah.
Awesome.
NHL News, Artem Zub, extension with cents,
4.6 million for four years, just for Alex, because I know.
Zub Dogg.
The Zubinator.
I love that last name.
Yeah, there's a big Z and there's the Zub dog.
Those two are getting confused.
And a lot of people talking about, I know Elliot Friedman led with his 32 thoughts on it,
this was supposed to be a World Cup year and they've pushed it and postponed it again.
Connor McDavid has never played on the same.
same team as Sydney Crosby, which seems ridiculous.
We just watched a World Cup, which seems like a decent sort of like,
okay, best on best for countries is,
it stirs up some emotions, this is powerful stuff.
Olympics, we've seen the semi-proes, not NHLers going.
Little Team Canada roster dropped today with, I think,
three plus thousand votes on Twitter and just sort of a thought of,
okay, like, have a look, what do you see?
What stands out?
And like, why can't we make these happen?
and they seem like they'd be lots of fun.
I know what stands out to me.
Tell me.
Goaltenders.
Yeah, we don't have any.
Tristan Jari, Darcy Kemper, Carter Hart.
Yeah, and the Americans do, and the Russians do.
But that deed, it's going to be good, but still.
What's that, Rhett?
McKenzie Weakers, Macintin, Canada.
This is what the online vote said.
I definitely know it.
There's no World Cup this year.
and if it's years down the road,
I don't like his odds
because, you know,
like Josh Morrissey's knocking on the door,
other younger guys.
Yeah, Morrissey should probably be on that list.
Yeah, he's having a monster year.
And he came, I think, ninth in voting.
So he was in the,
you're in the Pekesuban roll.
Just right there. Just, yeah.
But I think that's,
this is sort of a lag
from how good Uyghur was last year
and maybe not quite caught up
to how good of a season
the Morrissey's had this year.
But what was your favorite Uigher album,
Red?
God. Red hates McKenzie.
Did you like the blue album?
What was the...
No, no.
You know, the shoveler's good friend, uncle is the, I believe, if I'm not messing us up too bad, the drummer for Weezer.
And we're going to her house tomorrow after our drinking show.
Oh, boy.
Put on the blue album.
Middle-aged dirt bag.
Do we have the blue album image?
This was one of my favorite things on the whole Pender Report today.
Yeah.
Because what you're doing is it's a play on words.
Big T's here.
McKenzie Weeger and his name Weezer.
Weiger is very similar to the band named Weezer.
That was very popular in starting in about the mid-90s.
That'd be about right?
See, the thing about jokes, and I've told you this.
Explain them in.
It's about the timing.
Timing is so crucial.
And also, it's about knowing when to abandon it as opposed to keep...
Hey, it's the blue album.
Because it's his head on all the bodies.
And it's him, it's Wiger and it sounds like Wieser.
And you're going to go drink with the Wieser people tomorrow.
Worth the weight.
Oh, God, that was good.
Yes, nailed it.
Five stars would recommend Pinda Report.
Brought to you by.
No, no, yeah, no.
Carlos Correa.
Remember he was going to the Giants?
Not going to the Giants.
What?
There's a medical, oh, I don't know that, geez, it would hell of you dealt with it.
Well, standby, Red.
And so what happened?
Let's read the tweet.
What the hell happened?
Carlos Correa was going to the Giants.
Now he's going to the Mets.
He was going to be introduced yesterday.
And they canceled the press conference.
Putting his new jersey on in San Fran.
What?
What?
This is a beat reporter for the Giants.
Susan Slosser.
I think she covers athletics as well.
Great baseball writer.
Scott Boris, the agent, says they canceled a press conference,
indicated they still wanted to negotiate,
and then just didn't talk for 12 hours.
Now, that's some Scott.
Boris because maybe those 12 hours are like the middle of the night, but he a met today.
And what are the Mets doing?
They're the new Yankees, Dean.
I hate to tell you this, but they're the ones spending money like it's just paper.
And they're the one not worried about the luxury tax.
Check out the offseason the Mets have had.
Like this is old Yankees stuff.
This is mid-90s, late 90s, 315, 162, 102, 86, 75.
Like, they've spent $806 million this off season.
That's what the Yankees used to.
to do. There's a new big dog in New York. It ain't the Yankees. And it's Steve Cohen, the owner, right?
He was asked because there's the luxury tax and the thresholds. Competitive balance tax.
He's at, they're, they're going to have to pay $100 million in just tax. Just the tax.
And Cohen was asked, well, with that threshold, that puts you north of $100 million just in tax.
He is, quote, what's the difference? Can you imagine having that kind of dough? Can you imagine have that kind of owner?
You're like, oh, whoops.
So I have a pile of a billion.
I got to pay an extra.
We're trying to hang a banner here.
How much is a hundred million?
What's it there?
Man.
Good work.
God.
See, that's good for the players.
Owners like this, Rhett.
No worried about the bottom line.
Not worried about tax.
Let's go.
Tax.
And Cohen.
Spent.
Cohen and Boris, oddly enough, we're in Hawaii at the same time.
Really?
This week.
And then this all kind of came together.
Weird.
Was the infill?
Yeah, I don't know.
Side by son.
What?
Quinky dink.
Yeah.
You know what else we need to do?
We've got to be agents for these.
Oh, my God.
You started looking at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7% of those contracts?
Yeah.
So you're telling me if I got 1% of the Craya deal, I'd have $3 million.
5% out of 30 million.
What?
5,000?
Okay.
NFL news.
Guess who's back?
Big save Nick, Foles.
He's going to be a quarterback
for the Indianapolis.
You can say it here.
That's what I thought it was.
Big save Nick, wasn't that?
Yeah.
Big throw, Nick.
Forever enshrined in Philly Sports history
as the Philly Special quarterback
when they won the Super Bowl,
beating the Patriots in the big game.
He's going to start on Monday night
in prime time against the Chargers.
And so I know what you're thinking, Red.
What is happening with Matt Ryan?
New head coach.
He just got brought back.
Now they're already abandoning him.
We've got a picture of a sit-down between Jeff Saturday and Matt, right, there it is.
Oh, no.
Sometimes you've got to shoot your horse.
Sometimes you got to shoot your cold.
Well, you get the blindfold on there.
I don't know that the horse knows what a gun is, but he's blindfolded.
Poor people listening on the audio pod.
Missing everything.
I saw that, and I'm like, the internet.
And finally, Rhett, we're missing you here.
And your hot takes because we hit a milestone at 2 a.m. this morning.
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Yeah, I wonder what I was doing.
I think you'd probably drinking heavily.
Yeah, 2 a.m.
That's cold.
So boom, are you out and about?
Yeah, you're usually up shopping at that time.
Yeah, I was, yeah.
Yeah, it was damn labor shortages.
No more 24-hour stores.
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A couple things we need to do here before we leave. And it dawned on me yesterday and then again
this morning. Tomorrow is, what do we, it's the holiday spirits. The Holiday Spirits edition
of Barnburner. It's also Thursday, which means Ask Rett.
it feels somewhat dangerous or reckless to potentially do that.
You know what?
I would worry about Rhett just answering any old questions willy-nilly,
but Dean is the gatekeeper of the Ask Ret question box.
You can probably keep this on the rails more than he could keep it on the rails.
I'm thinking maybe we open the show with Ask Red tomorrow.
Oh, God.
Or early on.
You can do it all day.
All day.
Ask Red is a presentation of Hope Street
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You can email your questions in
Askrette at Flamesnation.ca.
I feel like we can get pretty interactive
with the YouTube's tomorrow too.
Yeah, I do.
I'll show with people in the group.
I want to get into the social media mentions
and show us your drinky poo Thursday.
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Yeah.
Yeah.
We'll do our betway bets, and then we're going to solidify our roster for tomorrow.
I haven't heard much quibbling except that it's just a lot of different booses, which it was always going to be.
I think, yeah, it's the participants in the order.
Okay.
We'll air your grievances in a moment.
Let's do our betway bets of the day.
You're red hot if you want to keep on rolling.
And when you're hot, you get a little cocky.
Yeah.
Check this out.
Oilers at Stars.
McDavid.
Drysidal, Robertson, three studs, three, what, in the top five in league scoring?
If they all score one, plus six, hunt, big game swagger.
Huh?
I like it.
Go for it.
Go for it.
Go for it.
Good.
So, a little more boring.
Maybe you're a little, uh, you like your top button done up and you're, you know, if the double wins or not.
Wild to win, minus 1.25, minus 120.
minus 1.5.
1.5.
Excuse me.
Minus a goal and a half.
That's the puck line,
not the money line,
the puck line.
That is not a good value.
Dude,
do you know how bad the ducks are?
They had one regulation win all year a week ago.
I know.
Like,
I do not worry about the wild
who have been playing very well.
They beat the Oilers on the weekend.
In red.
You mean the team with four good players and,
hmm.
Anyway.
Was it Skindog in Net or was it soupy?
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
My bets of the day, I am also going to the Oilers and Stars well.
Less, I'm still taking a shot.
Over six and a half total goals, Stars and Oilers and McDavid, two or more points.
The six and a half goals in the last ten games,
the Oilers have been involved in a game with under seven goals, only twice.
It's a lot of eight, two, five, threes, five, fours type of a deal.
And McDavid, two points.
In his last 12 games, he's had less than two points three times.
Yeah, that's great.
It just feels like that's kind of a routine thing.
And a first period power play goal paying plus 120.
It's a dice roll.
The Oilers have power play goals in each of their last seven games.
Let's see if they get one in the first.
It's plus money.
So those are my betway bets of the day.
And thoughts and purse, the two goalies here.
T's and peas.
T's and peas.
cheese and cheese.
I think we've done all we kind of need to do here.
Okay.
What are we,
what are there our obligations tomorrow in terms of,
like could the Pinda Report be just me,
like passed out and a pile of my own drill on the table,
or are we expecting something to be done there?
I think we are,
we could take creative license.
I think that's probably,
and just kind of freelance tomorrow.
Oh, and by the way, yes,
I did have an update for you.
Rhett last night was my first game of old man hockey of the season.
I had a little three o'clock skate with some fellows that were very good.
I was all fired up.
First shift out there.
Partial break.
Got to throw on the jets.
Polk check, step on the stick into the wall.
Like down on the ice, winded, everyone circled around.
What's up with the new guy?
And I'm like, I'm just, just winded.
Just give me 30 seconds.
You should have seen a beardy strutting into the room this morning after climbing the flight of stairs.
It's gimpy.
Oh, God.
What's up?
Hip, hip flex your butt.
My ribs.
Fill into the board.
Bleak.
Oh, boy.
It's like, oh, did somebody,
I thought for sure somebody
would a two-handed.
You were just yipping and somebody
finally got you.
No.
It's just really geeked up for the first shift.
And you're sure you stepped on a stick
and you didn't just.
No, the goalie was.
He's like, well, I'm glad you're okay.
And I'm like, yep, see ya.
And then I limped out in front of it.
Yeah, it was a goalie that poke checked your kipper did.
That's me once the prick.
Oh.
You do, your face plant.
So if there's a huge indentation at the Westside rink, that was me yesterday on the ports.
So in the Christmas spirits tomorrow, we ran through kind of the rough line, outline yesterday.
Right?
You said you had some thoughts.
You wanted Caesar ahead of Paloma?
That was the one adjustment.
We were sort of hypothesizing.
I thought we had to put a four, a four, five into three slot.
Yes.
To separate the two citrusy ones.
How do you feel about the roster?
Because then we can do some shuffling, but are we a man short?
Are we a man heavy?
Is there an odd?
Are we missing somebody?
Nine.
The issue for me is how many people are you going to have joining you for this?
In studio or online?
What are you going to fret?
Well, no, in studio, because my point is because if I open a bottle of champagne,
I got to drink the damn thing.
That's correct.
And I'm all alone.
We're going to give you some license as well.
If you want to do a screwdriver instead of a mimosa, that's fine.
I don't think that's...
So there's the little baby ones.
A little baby champagne.
Come on. Champagna.
Where's the shovel?
Are there?
Oh, yeah.
There's the one-glasser size.
Yeah.
What are they called?
Oh.
That's true.
I never thought about the little one.
I could go get a little...
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a singular.
Like a couple glasser.
Is the shoveler not around?
You said she's home all day.
Oh, yeah.
She's not home right now.
If that's what you're asking.
She won't get to the bubble?
tomorrow.
If there's booze around, maybe she could be persuaded.
I told her she had to wear an elf costume.
A X-rated elf outfit and she eyeballed me with, I'm like, oh, thanks for getting
into the spirit of things.
It's all my job.
It's the holiday spirits.
Come on.
It's my job, babe.
It's my job, babe.
It's worth you didn't have a job.
Okay.
Do we want to start?
Well, are we frozen?
I've had a hard time.
I don't know what's going on on the, on the YouTube.
So I don't know if it's, uh, it's all of us, I think.
my internet or...
It's that everyone's end.
Hardwired.
Coffee Irish cream to start.
Are you there, retro?
Well, I'll nail that.
Yeah.
And that might be a prior to...
I think so, too.
Yeah.
Because I like having coffee in the morning.
It's, you almost don't even know you're drinking.
Now, do you have to make sure that it's not too far in advance of start time?
I'm...
Yeah.
I don't want you drinking it before you hop in an Uber to get here.
You want it to contribute to the phone.
But, you know, when we sit in here and we get ready and we adjust the cameras and the lights
gets at and we're doing it. Like that's when you can have your coffee bails. You can finish it up as we
start the show. Not when you get up at four. No, that's, yeah, when you're up at three tweeting about
cars, we don't need you doing it then. And by bailies, we mean Irish cream. And by Irish cream, we
mean Irish cream. Brands, we're not brand specific. In fact, we won't be mentioning any brands tomorrow.
Yeah, so it's what's a brand. So an Irish cream. We're more likely to do branding on each other than we
are to mention a brand tomorrow. The way this list is coming together. Number two, Mamo
That's your orange juice, champagne.
Lovely.
Brunch special here.
I'm excited for that one.
Yeah, it's a gooder.
Some people don't like momosos.
I'm like, come on.
What's not to like?
Yeah, we don't have 10 of them.
It's just like one with brunch.
Unless it's like nonstop mamosas, though.
Okay.
Okay, so are you good with the order through two?
Yes.
Okay, now the question is,
do we go to the Caesar or the eggnog?
Right after the mimosa.
Now, originally you had poloma in this.
That's right.
We're separating the citrus.
Yeah, I said,
You got to put a four or five drink the Caesar or the eggnog at the number three to separate the citrus drinks.
Maybe that's wrong.
But I feel like an eggnog Caesar is a bad combo back to back.
Yeah, I agree.
Yeah.
So let's put the eggnog after.
And let's put the eggnog first.
Yeah.
Good.
I want this thing out of the way.
I don't want to deal with this eggnog.
Let's get the base.
Spice rum eggnog number three.
Yes.
Now.
What was the?
the thing the fireball.
You can do.
But then again, we're using brands.
So like a cinnamon whiskey.
A cinnamon whiskey.
With eggnog.
I'm going to go with the spiced, I think.
Okay.
I'll have options.
I hope.
Yeah.
Now the question is,
do you want to follow up that eggnog with Caesar
or with another citrus drink?
Because we've got the paloma.
Tequila, grapefruit juice.
There it is.
Paloma's in it four.
I think you go back to the clear, crisp, fresh.
Yes, fresh, refreshing.
Pallet cleanser.
Mm-hmm.
follow that up with the Caesar.
It's probably around lunchtime at that point.
Delicious, Rhett.
We'll have some lovely smattering of garnishes that we'll have pre-set up
and then all we'll have to do is add booze.
Are you going to make it a meat?
Is it going to be your meal, basically?
Is the Caesar going to be your meal?
It's going to be a portion of it.
At a minimum, it's an appetizer.
I'm not going to have like a slider on a toothpick,
but we're going to load it up.
We're going to have olives.
We're going to have peppercini peppers.
We're going to have the celery going,
maybe an asparagus stock, although some people don't like that.
I'll be honest.
I love the way they.
this is going. I'll just hold on my comment.
Okay. But I'm loving
how this is taking shape. 100%.
Awesome. Love it. So we're five drinks in, Dean. Is that right?
We are.
I'm going to give us the quick recap. The coffee drink.
Coffee and Irish cream. Then to the mimosa.
Yep. Spiced rum, eggnog.
Right. Heavy, but seasonal. Yep.
Then cleansing the palate with the paloma. Now on to a Caesar.
Mm-hmm.
Double, doubles? Double Caesar? Like, we got nine.
drinks here. If you want to go double, you can go double.
Caesar at five, now at six.
Beer, crisp
beer. You got a spicy
Caesar in there that's going to help cool the
mouth. Another reset
of sorts after the spice.
We're going to go with a Pilsner and or a lager,
something that's not going to be too challenging or
hoppy. That's crisp
and we move along. But not a light beer.
Are you allowing light beer?
If someone really wants to, but I just
think it's just going to be foamy and fill you up.
Yeah. I'd rather have
crisp. That's the thing. I do fill up on beer.
Just a can. Not a tall boy.
Okay. Beer. Seven.
How do we feel about the wine? Because I'm getting some chirps on this.
I don't, I'm not much of a wine drinker, but a glass of rosade is that, are we fancy
pants or are we idiots for thinking this is a good move?
I don't see where it fits into the theme. I'm fine with it.
Okay. Do you know? I'm fine with it as well. I'm deferring to you.
I actually like wine, but I just, I don't understand.
what we're trying to do with it.
Yeah.
I mean, we could easily go something like margarita,
but it would have to be on the rocks, not blended.
Can't be blending stuff too noisy.
Okay, so then...
I'm okay with the rosé, we'll leave it for now.
Let's leave it for now.
To be determined, maybe a late sub.
Yeah, could be a late substitution.
Number eight.
Like a TANF type game time in the lineup.
Number eight, one of my favorites,
the Moscow mule.
We're actually going to get some crushed up candy canes.
It'll be a candy cane mule red.
Is that what we're calling it, a festive mule?
mule, a mint mule.
Yeah.
Piper mint mule. That's what it was.
Pepper mint mule.
And then we've made an adjustment in the nine hole.
We want this guy, you know, turning the lineup over, getting on base.
We've gone to a classic, the rye and ginger.
Didn't have rye in there.
It can't be Western Canadian spirits without rye.
Don't, don't they always have punch at Christmas parties?
That makes a good point.
And the point I was going to bring up,
nine feels clunky.
Yeah.
10 feels like a round number.
10, I feel like you'd round up to 10.
You would, like with nuggets.
Yeah, you would round up to 10.
Like the nuggets.
Son of a bitch.
Yeah, so 10.
Submissions from the audience.
Number 10.
The punch is not a bad idea.
I'm going to need some direction.
We already have gin for the Caesar,
or we can make the Caesar a vodka gin choice
so we can use the gin for the punch.
We have plenty of, uh, of liquor.
Okay.
Just be a matter of recycling one.
Are we thinking like, um,
a fruit punch of sorts with some floating cranberries and slices of fruit in there?
Ladle.
Yeah, I, I, that might be a lot.
See, that's there.
That's, yes.
What he's, that's, yes.
Delicious.
So are we substituting the rosé with that or is,
What were you just told me you want 10?
You close out with some time of punch.
10?
Is that similar to rosé?
No, it's not.
Get the punch in and you look for one more?
Right.
What's your favorite drink?
Urban and the punch?
Bourbon punch.
What's your favorite drink?
Is there one that we're kind of missing?
Or do you want to bring back your dark and stormies?
I love a margarita too.
What would have been there?
I don't want the margarita.
It's nothing to do with Christmas.
I love the margarita.
It's seasonally great, but it's not summer.
Yeah.
That's fine.
That was why it wasn't a originalist.
Mould wine?
Oh.
Let's take some work.
We don't have a stove top here.
Somebody's mentioning the old-fashioned.
Mm-hmm.
All right.
Oh, look at this.
We've got some...
Open AI.
I love this thing.
I let my kids use this for the grill this morning.
Oh, my God.
Gingerbread latte punch.
That's cream.
Hot buttered rum punch.
Old wine punch.
Ew.
That's got butter in it.
cranberry punch,
mulled wine,
eggnog,
peppermint mocha punch.
It's getting a little fancy.
These all feel very thick.
Hot chocolate.
I don't know if I like these.
Might make you spit.
If you're doing,
it's got to be
tropical Christmas punch.
Yeah.
Something like that.
In the pomegranate.
I want something that's like
Tahiti treat with some floating fruits.
Vodka blue Krakio.
Carissa.
Pineapple juice.
Grenadine.
If you could get vodka,
blue,
whatever it is and beep, I'm in.
Okay, well, we got to, I think we're,
we're going to have to break here.
We just call it a special drink number 10.
What about a Twitter poll?
Well, you know what we're going to do?
We'll call it holiday punch for now, Dean.
And what kind of punch leaves us some creative,
wiggle room?
Or do we replace the rosé with the punch
and leave 10 dealers' choice?
Oh, I don't mind that either.
Actually, I like that idea.
Yeah, screw that.
the rosé.
Punch seven,
mule eight,
Rye Ginger,
nine.
Ten, wild card.
Wild card.
Love it.
I can't wait.
It's going to be the show of the year.
I said to tell your friends,
cancel work,
let's go.
I said to Pinder yesterday,
I said,
you know what?
Our buddy,
Mandeep,
he's supplying the booze.
He even,
he's like,
I'm like,
what time do you want me to pick it up?
He's like,
I'll be there.
I'll deliver it.
I'm coming.
I want to be part of.
So Man Deep's coming.
He's like, Mandiap's very excited about this.
I said to Pindra. I said, oh, man deep is pumped.
He's like, who's more pumped?
Him or me?
I'm like, oh, he's pumped.
So, like, relative to my level of excitement, he'd be here or here or here.
Is that, okay, fair.
Both of you very excited.
I do respect to Mandi, he is excited, but no one can match those levels.
Yeah, it's a terrible idea, but do join us tomorrow.
Yeah, it'll be our last show before we get canceled.
That's right.
The last show of the year, maybe ever.
Yeah.
See you tomorrow, buddies.
There you go.
Boilers suck.
It's been a fun ride.
See you, buddies.
