Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - FlamesNation Barn Burner: The Calgary Flames kick off the Cali road trip with a win over the Sharks

Episode Date: December 19, 2022

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Starting point is 00:00:13 We are after it here on a Monday. It's Barnburner. We're ready to roll. We are on the, the YouTube's. We are on your favorite podcast platform. We're in your ears. We're in your ear holes. We're inside of you. Oh, baby. Yeah. There's Retro, the Reds. I cleaned out my ear holes. I cleaned out my ear holes today. It wasn't pretty. What did we find in there? Just bong resin and lint? What's it? A couple potatoes. Yeah. Do you find?
Starting point is 00:00:48 Oh, there's some velvita cheese. That must have been from the food fight. Is it an age thing? Because I'm finding, I'm getting more stuff in there. Really? Yeah. I'm not putting more in there,
Starting point is 00:00:57 but more's coming out. I don't know if we ever put it in. It just sort of shows up there. No. Yeah. You'll just be kind of sitting there and you feel, what was that? You kind of tunk.
Starting point is 00:01:05 A potato falls out and hits the table. My ears don't get much air anymore. Just sort of like, under the sideshow bob canopy there. So it's, is that? Because we talked about your nose getting bigger. Your ears get bigger too.
Starting point is 00:01:18 I know that they start to, what about the shit inside? Is that part of it? I never used to have issues with swimming, like going into water. You know, some people that get water in their ears and stuff. But clearly mine are growing
Starting point is 00:01:32 because now I get water in my ear and it annoys a hell out of it. Yeah, I'm the same. I'm always like, why did grandma always wear those things in her ears and you're a kid? And then you have your kids and you're like, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:01:42 I wish I could plug my ears or something. Every time I go under him, I can shake it out. My grade three gym teacher. And he was my home room as well. He kind of, but he was the gym teacher. And he was an asshole.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Yeah. Like to this day, if I met that prick. Really, eh? Might throw hands. Do you want to say his name? Yeah. Alan Tacharic.
Starting point is 00:02:03 Oh, Tacharic. That prick. That's close. But his thing, whenever we went outside for Jim in the wintertime, he'd be firing cotton balls. in there. It's like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:15 What do you think is the deal? So you don't ask him, right? You're in grade three. But it's like, here we go for going outside cross-country skiing. Oh, yeah, he's got the shit in his ears again. What's that about? So what would that have been about? Is that getting high? Is that some new thing we don't know about you? Has he dousing them with chloroform? He must have been prone to earaches, I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:02:35 That's keeping the air of cold air out of his ears must have been a form of safety measure. Whatever. That's the thing where you, the big pyramids in years, you let them on fire. Yeah, ear candling. Waxing. That's what that is.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Waxing. You're caning. I don't know. That's weird too. How are you with your balance? How's your vertigo, right? How's your vertigo? Are you vertical?
Starting point is 00:03:00 I mean, I've fallen under tree, well, into trees sometimes, but it usually from over intoxication, but. And bad skis. Is that the same when you get up too fast? Because I'll find sometimes if I'm kind of down on one knee Or if I'm looking for something, you stand up. That's light-headed. That's your heart not working.
Starting point is 00:03:20 That's seeing stars again here. Yeah. Just having a little nap there. And then all of a sudden, who, I think. Because that's a thing. It's going black. Yeah, that's a thing for sure. Good start.
Starting point is 00:03:33 You were, of course, we, but Pittsburgh? How long were you in Pittsburgh? Three days, two days, two nights. Two nights in Pittsburgh. Two nights, Friday and Saturday. Yeah, three and one. Did you get two tickets to Titsburg? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah. Last Sunday morning, last yesterday morning. But we had a good weekend. I know you're interested. Totally. And the roads weren't too bad. We had about a half hour on the way home where the weather was frightful. But apparently a few folks leaving the bills game, she was a long haul.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah. Like two and a half. hour drive home from the bills. Two and a half. So if they would have played that game Sunday, what would the stadium have looked like? Better? Probably better.
Starting point is 00:04:28 Yeah, okay. Because they cleared it off and I don't think they got any snow from, it was all dealing with what had happened the 24 hours before. Yeah, because if you didn't really know and you just fired the game on, it's Buffalo in December. And then they'd get a touchdown and you saw a thousand snowballs. like, okay, there's some snow in the stands.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Yeah, is that a thing? That's a thing. They're having fun. They stop the game to be like, yeah, don't be throwing snowballs. Don't do it. I'll make you wait. You're going to go to your room for time out if you throw another.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Somebody could tell the one of the guy. The guy. The Bill's Mafia what to do. Yeah. They're on fun. Bill's Mafia. We should have seen the hotel room or the lobby in Pittsburgh full of Bill's Mafia because there was a whole bunch of teams from,
Starting point is 00:05:12 For Buffalo there. Presence is felt, eh? It was mayhem. Love it. Do you think other cities love it when a bunch of Buffalo teams show up? Do you think that's something they look forward to? Hey, this would be nice. They don't.
Starting point is 00:05:26 We have five or six buffaloan teams showing up. So we don't need the nice silverware. Lock that up. There was numerous warnings. Warnings issued. Wow. We'll need to put some extra chlorine in the pool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Because someone's going to drop a deuce in there for sure. We're going to need a lot of light beer and cheap, cheap booze. Load up. Well, I don't know what it's like in Buffalo, but we're in one here in Calgary. Which is tit. Yeah, I was looking this morning. Environment Canada.
Starting point is 00:06:01 I think the official terminology was cold as fuck. Yeah, that's a meteorology. If you're sending your kids off today, make sure that they have their mitts and hats because it's cold as the fuck outside. It's an extreme cold warning that is minus 28, but that really isn't, that's kind of, whatever, minus 28. Feels like minus 42. There you go.
Starting point is 00:06:24 Feels. See, on the way, on the way home from Pittsburgh yesterday, I rode with the guy, and he's like, well, Murph. Is that who was? It was Murph. Yeah. It was Murph. You must have a huge hangar.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Murph and I were cruising home. And, uh, And Murph was like, well, don't they, because I was talking, it's supposed to get cold in Calgary. He's like, well, don't they cancel school when it gets to it? I'm like, no. No. You know when they run into issues? I'm like, no, he's like at minus 37, I believe propane or some sort of fuel the buses uses will freeze.
Starting point is 00:06:58 And that will cue cancellation. So we're not even close. We need like another 10 degrees. We're fine. It is amazing, though, when you think about it. I was just going to say coming in coming into work you see not a lot. That's our way of life. Saw someone running yesterday with their dog.
Starting point is 00:07:17 I'm like, holy fuck. People just. Purple heart. That's impressive. Deal with it. We're tough. Yeah. Go for a run.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Yeah. Dumb. It's like the bikers. Do we get that poll result? We never got that poll result from Friday. Now, how long is it sitting here now? The pole? No, this, and the weather.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I think it's supposed to be good by Christmas. What? Christ, that's like a week away. Like how many more days? Well, and I shouldn't say. Holy shit. I don't know if that's when it's ending so much as I just was checking. Wasn't it last Christmas?
Starting point is 00:07:45 That was brutal too, where it was nice until Christmas. And then at Christmas it just turned into misery. Right. It's perfect ODR weather on Saturday. Mine's four sunny. Let's go. That is money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Awesome. Sunday high as zero boxing day, two degrees. Perfect. So what you're saying is Christmas is this weekend. That's right. Okay. Yep. Got some work to do here.
Starting point is 00:08:14 I think a lot of us do. Yeah. I think a lot of us do. Were you going to say one last thing about Buffalo or Calgary Winters or do you want to move on? I jumped on you there. They would definitely cancel school if you were in Buffalo. The kids, for all your kids listening to Pinders F bombs, you would be out of school. That's right.
Starting point is 00:08:31 If you lived in Buffalo. Yeah. And if Murf Dogg was your principal, you wouldn't be going to school. My boy, Calvin, text me. yesterday. He goes, I let my kid because Luke had a tuk on in the back of the truck the other day on Friday. And so
Starting point is 00:08:47 somebody in Calgary must have said to Calvin because it's their tukes. It's for charity. Anyway, Calvin's got a young boy and Calvin will not allow his child to listen to our show because you guys and your vulgarity ruins it for him. So
Starting point is 00:09:02 congratulations. Yeah. Love the show. No, I can't let my kid listen. Sorry. No good. really that bad? Like is Calvin such a saint and a sweetheart that his kid would never ever... When his kid goes to school, he'd never hear any words like this. No, you'd never be subject to anything
Starting point is 00:09:19 quite like that. I bet you when someone stubs their toe, they say fiddle sticks. Who is this Calvin? This is an untouchable. Really? You already said his first name. Yeah. Cal Peterson. Go check out the... Look back on... Have
Starting point is 00:09:38 Princey do a a check on the tuk that my child was wearing last Friday. It's a charity. It's a cancer charity. So, well, I'm fine with charity. Wonderful cause. Anyway, I was cracking on the cause. Just tell Calvin to take that stick out of his ears.
Starting point is 00:09:54 It's a young boy, but Calvin's boy, he's young. He's a young lad. Speaking of, speaking of charity. Want to, because Tower, we're hearing the Tire, Trial Chrys Studios, and we saw last week, we talked about Tauer Kreiser all the time. On what day, was it Friday? Was it Friday? We did the, we ripped over to closer to home.com, the old offices.
Starting point is 00:10:17 There it is there. Colton Co. Very nice. Go get it. And we had the check presentation. It was, you know, kind of an impromptu thing. But look at that there. Between everybody who donated and took part in the auctions here with this show.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And everybody over the. staff and everyone at Tower, all told, what, $31,000? $31,000. $31,000 raised for adopt a family. Isn't that crazy, Red? You must feel good about yourself, Pender. That's the first time you've done something for others. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:57 This is a whole new leaf. You're 40. You're giving back. This is awesome. I cleaned the dishes last night, too, which I do quite often. So if you're seeing it on the YouTube, there's Nikki in the yellow toque from tower. She makes that place run. We've learned that in a very short amount of time. Nick, he's like the hemmy engine of the tower. Like, without her, it's, I don't know if the lights
Starting point is 00:11:19 are on. And there's the Wolverine with his Boston Red Sox cap and there's fat boom in the background and then the, uh, the ladies from closer to home. And are you wearing a, sorry, I don't want to interrupt, but it looks, my eyes are going. I don't have my fancy shades on. Is that a Colorado avalanche? Like it's blue and white. No, he's got a, Blue and white zip up hoodie and something with a red collar underneath. Yeah, no, I've got my Sandus Ozil-Ozlinch jersey on my Uve Krupe game worn. Only to special events does that one come out. See, I thought you were going to say, are you wearing?
Starting point is 00:11:59 I thought you were going to ask what Pinder was wearing because he has got his Hubey Mania t-shirt on. I just saw Nicky's hat. I thought we got a match. We're teamwork here, right? Looks great. Let's go. Take the hoodie off. Love it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 Showcase Huby Mania. And over a tower, they're doing their... So that's helping a few families. Yeah, I mean, we'll, I think we'll know more today or this week. They had some rough numbers, but I'd hate to speculate. Yeah, don't want to speculate. We'll get firm details before the holiday break here. But it's great.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It's a lot of families, and that's what the whole thing was about. And I'm glad it came together and thanks to everybody who took part and not the least of which is Tower. That's because I think that's just their staff. They do a 50-50 draw throughout the year every month. We wouldn't have been on to this without Tower. No. This was something they did in-house, and us being unoriginal
Starting point is 00:12:48 just decided to copy them, and then the great people we knew helped out, and the way we go. Greg from Bonton. Bonton meets $5,000 check. Huge check. A pig roast for the auction and donated some gift cards.
Starting point is 00:13:02 That's right. We're going to be selecting some of the people who'd made donations and handing out some prizes there as well. South Street jumping out with free burgers, jam by Karatee, our pal. A couple watches. Justin. who's with Viena Nova, two Tiso watches.
Starting point is 00:13:15 There's incredible. Our guys, man. Our guys. I've checked in, because we went to Madrose Pub last week to have lunch and eat an entire pizza. Some of us, yeah. We wanted, we were going to over by Craig at Bontow. Hey, can you slide over? We're going to have, he's like, uh, absolutely slammed.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That would be, that would be great. This would be the week to, I'm not able to move. He sent me a text this morning. I just want to make sure I have the numbers. The numbers. Can we swing by today? Not a good time. We're rammed.
Starting point is 00:13:48 I have 1,500 fresh turkeys arriving today. 1,500? I need to keep them from freezing. Because that's the thing about fresh turkeys is they've not been frozen. And that's the thing about feels like minus 42. That's kind of a draw. So to find an area where you can keep them chilled but not frozen solid. Yeah, that's a challenge.
Starting point is 00:14:08 You need some inventory there. It's only 1,500 though. That's right. 15? 100. Yeah, 15, 100. 100 times, yeah, that's a lot. Okay, we can get into the game. Last night, San Jose Sharks, Calgary Flames.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I kind of forgot all about this one until it was about game time. I was like, Jesus, right? There's that. You're just fluffing up the pillow. Oh, yeah. You had your sleeping cap on. Getting ready. Ma and her kerchief.
Starting point is 00:14:32 That's right. Sharks, not a great hockey team. Yeah, it's not new. I think they're skill. Terrible. But as far as playing the sport of hockey. in an organized fashion. I like their best four guys
Starting point is 00:14:46 and I don't know the rest. So that probably tells you why they're at where they're at. What are you talking about? I mean, you got a hurdle Meyer, Couture and Carlson. Everyone could use those guys.
Starting point is 00:14:55 It's just, they haven't surrounded them with anything. I told you, I watched them here in Buffalo and they are dog shirt. Yeah. Like they, that's the team you should
Starting point is 00:15:06 and must defeat. Yeah. It was a little bit. They're brutal. You dominate them in the first. then you're tied after 20. You're thinking, oh, boy. I was going to say, it's a 5-2 final.
Starting point is 00:15:16 This is the season in a nutshell. And you should have had four or five in the first. Yeah. Now, look, they get what they needed. It's two points. Hopefully they've dodged a bullet on two injury fronts. You could have TAN of back as early as Tuesday in terms of the IR limitations. They officially did put them on IR retroactive back to a while ago.
Starting point is 00:15:35 You need a minimum stay of 10 days. But, yeah, you don't necessarily need it to be a white-knuckle ride for four. against the sharks on Tuesday. Man, even by the time the game, they had 15 shots five on five. Both goals came in the power play. The sharks are saying. Yeah, the sharks.
Starting point is 00:15:54 Basically, everything that they did that was impressive came with the man advantage. Five on five, they just, it was pawned hockey. And then the flames at the end when they're up by three, it's like, no, no, no, don't go to penalty box again here. Or up by four. As a guy, it's like, yo, just, no. Play five on five.
Starting point is 00:16:10 These guys are no good at hockey. They're really good at five on four. They were no good at hockey. And their penalty killed is dog shirt to, you know, not offend rats' friends. So should you not, if... Is that coaching? Guys, let's find a style of play, not even an identity. Let's not turn over the puck.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Let's not join every rush if we're the defense. Let's try and have some sort of a system. They did not seem to have much of a system. And based on where they are in the standings, this seems like it's a common thread. So you're talking about the sharks here? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I don't even know. I don't know what the plan is there. Mike Greer is in as GM here, year one, right? And I think you've got some chips that you have to make the most of. Eric Carlson, if you eat some money, is a massive asset to a team, especially if they don't have someone that can run a power plant in the blue line. I think, you know, Timo Meyer, another guy. What kind of money is?
Starting point is 00:17:11 are you going to have to eat, though? He's making 11? Right. So if he makes 9, you're like, you're going to be a top three score on the blue line in the NHL for 9 something, that's fine. I mean, you'd have to worry about the aging.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Can you convince him to play defense? He never has, but most of the guys making 9 plus in the NHL don't either, right? Like, he'd be way better than... They're getting paid... They're getting paid 9 not to play defense. You're going to pay 9 to put up 70 points. It's like Nurse and Seth Jones,
Starting point is 00:17:40 but you're actually getting the points, right? rather than hoping you'd get the points and not getting the points. Because remember when he went there in the first place, it's like, oh, this guy's kind of all over. We've got Brent Burns. He's kind of that already. Now we've got two of those guys.
Starting point is 00:17:53 It was just kind of this assumed thing with those two, what kind of a defense of they got? The funny thing was, if he doesn't get hurt in that playoff run, they might win the cup that year because it's St. Louis that barely gets by them in a series where he hardly played
Starting point is 00:18:04 and he had one leg that was functioning. I mean, they weren't far off. That was their shot that year. Problem was extending him at, what, 11, 11 and a half? for all that happened last night, he had two assists, 41 points in 33 games.
Starting point is 00:18:18 Like, that's a star in this league. And, like, Drysettle doesn't play D. It's okay. Like, if you're a lead offensively, someone else can play D. And I guess the only issue I would point out is that he's played better on teams that aren't supposed to be good. Well, kind of, but he also took Ottawa on his shoulders
Starting point is 00:18:37 like an overtime goal away from the Stanley Cup final. I know, but Ottawa was, Ottawa was no good and he just kind of, I'm not questioning his skill and ability. I'm just saying that, like, he's not, when there's no repercussions for getting burned and losing 5-2 on a Sunday night,
Starting point is 00:18:56 yes, he gets points and he's on the ice. You know what I mean? And I'm not saying you wouldn't want him on your team to a certain extent, but it is easier when there's no pressure to be successful. That team in San Jose, he doesn't have to think about defense. It's not even a, he's got one focus.
Starting point is 00:19:16 And that's Eric Carlson getting some points, right? Good on him. Go ahead. He's very talented. But it might change. Like, honestly, you put him under Daryl Sutter's scrutiny. Is he going to be able to perform like that? No,
Starting point is 00:19:30 that's like my boy Eric Gustafson. It's like you're getting no D, but it'll run the power play for you. It just has that feel, and it's maybe unfair, but you talk about pressure. It feels like, like that's a team where we're happy. I'm Timelmeier. I'm Tomash Hurdle. I'm
Starting point is 00:19:45 Eric Carlson. Let's just make a lot of money and go to the rink and it's easy to say that now. It's a really good lifestyle. When they were playing in the cup final and in the they played in one cup final. And another semifinal as well. It was a good run there. They went to playoff 16 to 17 years. And like no, they didn't have long runs early. But there were some deep runs. Those are good teams. And like, yes, it's comfy there.
Starting point is 00:20:08 But this isn't like seller-dweller forever. It's been two and a half bad years since they were like a contender every year. And I know Joe and Marlowe kind of have that rep, but they were good teams. They were. Yeah. And I agree with you, right. Go to the ring and be lazy when the team's that bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 And it's newly bad. I went to the game here in Buffalo. I went to the game here in Buffalo and I said it. I felt bad. for Couture. Typically, throughout his career, he's been on competitive teams. He's been a hell of a player.
Starting point is 00:20:49 It's been playoffs, hockey. He's competed. And he went to the rink in Buffalo and there were 4,000 people there. And it was Sunday night and he knew they were going to get beat and it was almost sad. It's demoralizing, right?
Starting point is 00:21:03 Does that strike you as a spot, though, kind of to the lifestyle? I'm not trying to establish it any kind of point. I just wonder, you know you're not winning. You know, it's a bad hockey team. Probably going to be for a little bit here. Yeah, a couple of years at least you'd think, right? Are you asking out if you're Eric Carl, are you, or any of those guys, hey, I want a chance to win.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Carlson's got a full no move. I'd like to leave California. I don't know if you go to, if you want to leave that team. Well, I think you'd be happy to go somewhere else in California or to Florida if you can win. Right. But I don't know that they're going to Winnipeg for, to make your point. If you're in Ottawa, bad team, get me out of here. If you're in Winnipeg, bad team, get me out.
Starting point is 00:21:39 trade me right fucking now kind of thing. San Jose, you know. We said that about the docs too. They moved to Raquel. I don't think he had the no move. Lindholm, they move as well. But that wasn't the player having control.
Starting point is 00:21:49 So that's different. I shouldn't say. Go ahead, Red. I still think it's hard for guys to move. I mean, I don't know anyone's personal side of things as far as family, kids, this and that. But, you know, there's been too many circumstances where guys think
Starting point is 00:22:05 they're going to move to win. You don't win, right? You don't always get to pick a winner. Iggy tried. Lots of guys have tried. It doesn't always happen. Your kids are in school. You're set up. Yeah, the team's not doing well, but guess what? I'm still making eight.
Starting point is 00:22:19 And the weather outside is not frightful. It's actually quite nice. Lovely. Life is okay. Right? So to uproot, just say, well, I'm going to go win. Well, are you? Hard to do. Iggy tried.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Maybe. And you can look at it both ways and say you're an idiot for not wanting to leave and go to a winner. but rationally, you know, it's not that easy to just say, I'm going to a winner. You go up to Greer and say, yeah, I'll take a trade. And he sends you somewhere that has, yeah, well, we're going to finish in seventh and maybe go on a run. Like, sure, you're in the playoffs, but it doesn't mean you're going to be winning. I think they're going to move some of these guys. And I think that's the key to this team turning it around.
Starting point is 00:23:03 If you let these guys get older, you've missed your window to move them for a assets. They already have traded a ton of firsts. Cain deal, you know, to get Carlson, had a couple involved there, including a really high pick that I think turned into Stutzla. Like, they've been missing that adding talent component because they've been trading first for a long time here. You need to turn some of these guys that are about to tee off on the 14th hole while they're still valuable for something else. And if that means you're eating two million bucks Carlson's money, to get him to nine and a half or he's in the top six, seven in the NHL salary for defenseman, that is totally palatable for, I think, some contenders.
Starting point is 00:23:41 And I think you probably got to consider the same for Meyer, hurdle, who just signed a deal. And can you move? Couture? Go ahead. Can you move a guy, say like Carlson and say, say you're the flames. I have no idea if this is even real. We'll eat San Jose saying, okay, we'll move Carlson.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Flames, you pick him up. We'll eat four million of the contract for the first. No. many years, three years. It has to match the whole contract. So if you say you're eating any, it's going to match. Every year you have to eat the same amount. Yeah, it can't vary.
Starting point is 00:24:18 It's the AV every single year, you have to eat the same amount. And so he's got this year and then four more. At 11 and a half. Yeah, which is the highest paid D-Man league. It's too much, but it's not way too much considering that he and there might be a list of three guys that could flirt with over a point per game as defenseman. He's one of them. We don't need to spend any more time on it.
Starting point is 00:24:39 But they're bad. They're bad. But the last thing that I guess I'm question, I'll ask you, Red, with Eric Carlson, I always go back to something that Daryl Sutter had said when he talked about Drew Doughty. He said, Drew Doughty could have 80 points if he was allowed to play that way, where he could just be all offense and have no regard for his own end. Now, this was a while back. I think Daryl was still behind the bench there.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Can Eric Carlson be better defensively? Can you can he just, you have to adapt a mindset and you have to have to have a coach that says this style that you're playing is no longer allowed here. I think it's hard to do both not to interrupt you, but I think it's hard to go put up 70, 75 points and play responsible. But I think that's what it was. Be a be a 50 point, 45, 50, 55 point defenseman, sacrifice 30 points, but be far more valuable to your team in an all around way. Well, I don't know if he would be former valuable. That's the thing. Like, I would ask the same about Leon Drysidal.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Like, when he won the heart in games that were tied or within two goals, he was outscored at even strength the whole season. That's, like, mind-blowing that he could win the heart. But he was so electric offensively, like, would you ask Leon to shave off 40 points to get, like, a couple Selky votes? I don't know that you would. Like, you can find guys that play defense that are just D-Men, and they're way cheaper and easier to find than guys that could put up a point per game on the blue line.
Starting point is 00:26:09 So he's not a perfect player at all. but I think the more valuable and rare asset is the ability to be a point per game defenseman. Sometimes to me it goes, yeah, you got to know the player and are you setting him up to 16? And I don't know that by asking Carlson to play defense better is a position where you're doing him or your team any favors. I think you take him for what he is.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And if he's putting up 70, you're ecstatic. I mean, you have a 70 point defenseman. Like, cheer him on and don't even talk about. the D. Flip side. Anything weird game because of that. They score what they get, three goals in heartbeat there.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Three and one fifty four. Two of them going to Elias Lindholm in a short span of time, two in 19 seconds. Anything. They can't score until they score a bunch is what it feels like, right? We bitch and moan about it.
Starting point is 00:27:09 They got to be able to finish. You got to finish. You need some goals. And then they get five. I was like, well, hey, look, they're salt. It's not solved. They got five last night. The sharks are bad, right?
Starting point is 00:27:18 That's the other thing. I don't put any stock in the win. That's the problem. It's a win where you have to win and you erupted for a bunch of goals in a short amount of time. Other than that, it was a close game. I was like, was that a good enough response after getting shellacked at home and on Friday night? It's that whole process versus result thing. I think they're in results land right now.
Starting point is 00:27:41 They got four games until the Christmas break. in California, they've won their first, they have three to go. I don't care if you're painting the barn, just get the damn points. If you can come out with seven out of eight or six out of eight points or even better than that, like that puts you in a really good spot to not be shitting your pants in the new year from where you are in the standings. Like this is the easy portion of your schedule. Make, hey.
Starting point is 00:28:04 You might be able to enjoy Christmas if you can come home with the next three Ws. And I think more than like how you're playing and where you are in the stand. He's like, I think this group needs a little success and a break. Like, I feel like there's a lot of guys that look like they're carrying and playing with a lot of pressure. And I think wins will help that, whether they're pretty or not. I watched, I watched the St. Louis game last night and the Sharks game this morning. And you watch that St. Louis game. And there's not a lot of joy in Mudville.
Starting point is 00:28:35 That was as bad as they've looked all year. The flames, my opinion. I didn't see the Buffalo game, but that's like one of the only ones I didn't see. Yeah, they don't look engaged. They look terrible. And then last or this morning when I'm watching and they win and I'm like, like I just said, that's, if you don't win, that's quite a statement.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah. The fact that you did win means F all to me, right? Nice to get some guys scoring. But you know what? It's San Jose. What were if you, and you watch it this morning. So Redd,
Starting point is 00:29:06 you knew the result. But as I'm watching it last night, what do you think it after two periods when it's two to one? and one of them is a luch each knuckler off of a shark's defenseman's pants and in. It's like you're letting these guys hang around. You're missing the net. You can't finish. And then they could finish.
Starting point is 00:29:23 And then all of a sudden, ding, ding, ding, ding. Hey, yeah, big win, no worries out. I'm more with you, Red. They didn't fix anything last night. They still have a hard time scoring goals. I like to all of a sudden, you were going to zipping it out of it. That's nice to see. The power plays looking better.
Starting point is 00:29:37 But again, it's, we don't want to, it's one game. It's a bad team. I don't know if they look good that it'd be like, well, they're fixed because it's like, well, it's San Jose anyway. It's kind of like a situation they can't win in. It's like either beat a team that sucks or it doesn't look easy to beat a team that sucks. Like, it's still a team that sucks. You got the two points. Well, that's why what you said, what I'm reiterating is that if you can go in there and put string together a group of games against teams and win them.
Starting point is 00:30:01 Okay. Now you've made a statement to me because you've gone and done what you're supposed to and have to do. That's what good teams do. Totally. It's about, yeah, the good teams win. those games. If you, if you can't put a string together right now, it just, it leaves us to question, what do we have as far as opportunity here? Because you're throwing points away losing the teams on this, on this swing. Yeah, and I don't want to put too much stock in it, but they have the
Starting point is 00:30:30 easiest strength of schedule remaining in the league. They've done a lot of road, a lot of travel, a lot of top teams, a lot of division leaders. And it doesn't matter if you don't take advantage of it, but last night was a chance to take advantage. they did and it's seven in a row against divisional foes. Edmonton might be the only playoff team out of the seven teams, seven games. So go ahead, let a rip. If you're going to get hot, this is the time. It's not Boston Carolina Jersey here you're facing.
Starting point is 00:30:57 My two things I was thinking about today too were what you, your person that does the playoff percentages. Dom's probabilities, yeah. And what people have talked about. Yeah. And what people have talked about in the past in other seasons and other teams and what maybe was alluded to at the start of this year where the flames maybe aren't as good a regular season team. They're not constructed that way. But if they can get into the playoffs and then have the extra energy of playoff hockey, they might be a team that's constructed for playoff hockey.
Starting point is 00:31:33 I think a lot of people in the city are hoping that. You just want, they need to get in to show if that's the case or not. You know what that, you know what that reminds me of? That's, that reminds me of the narrative that you'll hear when it's a really good team with a huge lead at the end of the regular season. They start playing poorly. They say, well, they're bored and they haven't had to compete and they haven't had a meaningful game at a long time. They need to get to the playoffs. And you're thinking, okay, that's great. But night one, you better be ready. It's not always the case. Well, and you can see it already. The narrative is going to be like New Jersey, smaller forward group. Yeah. First time in. Like if they stumble in the first time in, like if they stumble in the first. around you know exactly what's going to say oh well it's different different season now i worry less about this group if they can get in because of the coach it's a much older team and to be fair the core you had before did a good job not playing well in the playoffs this is a different group you might have a better mix come a seven game series christanaev obviously was injured took the shot against the Montreal Canadiens hasn't played on, now we're doing this on Monday.
Starting point is 00:32:35 So game day yesterday was Sunday against the sharks, took morning skate. Darrell Sutter said he's expected to have him take a practice today. And that's usually the thing. You don't get back in until you practice with the team full contact. That's expected to take place today. I don't know what's up with Zedorov. He blocked that shot last night.
Starting point is 00:32:53 It looked like it was off of his, he was holding his arm as he skated off. It was late too. So it's not like you know if he recovered well, whereas if it's a first and he doesn't come back. It's like, well, big concern, but it was late. And then Gilbert didn't come back after the fight. Darrell Postgame addressed that and said he talked to Gibby or whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:11 He says his nickname for Gilbert is and says he's fine. But because he got punched, they just wanted to hold him out. Goosh. Is that what a... Ooh, that's tough enough to watch. I mean, does this guy want an initial paycheck or what? Like, we talk about in today's NHL ret how many guys, it's like, go out and get it.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Like, young guys, are you hungry? Do you understand the difference between like 150 grand and a million? million like go get it take a job this guy is trying his ass off to do it and i don't know if he's good enough but he's trying his ass off that's because murf coached him really well the junior saber of course murph was his dog yeah he was this coach when he was a kid the murfster watch up for de samone another murph coached i bet hey dirt on him he said he used to be a little guy now he's a big but he's not fine like a little guy he's picking like that he's he's going at guys that scrap.
Starting point is 00:33:58 That gadjuvich fights a lot. They're really showing off in the the elaborate, not they're really squaring off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Circle and center ice.
Starting point is 00:34:11 You got to spend some time. A lot of theatrics, yeah. Well, and if you saw that, because he starts this way and then does the, oh, am I right? Or am I left? You don't know me. Southport? You don't know, do you?
Starting point is 00:34:23 He's done that twice. He's done that twice. He found out what Gajavich was pretty quick. When you get drilled one and you go down, though, that really, it's kind of, doesn't matter which hand you're throwing. No, and then you also catch another before you hit the deck. That sucks, too. But it sounds like he's fine from what Daryl said post game. I love it. Good on him.
Starting point is 00:34:40 Yeah. Good on him. I like those guys. Like you said, they're trying to do the right thing. The way he kind of grabbed his head. Oh, I know right away. Usually once got when broke his or. It's like, yeah, that's an or.
Starting point is 00:34:53 That's what I said. I was the, because he caught him, right? he caught him. So it's like that is when you see someone like, oh, facial fracture like four months. Ooh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Well, not if you're me and Jim Pizzatel is your trainer. You just carry on. Let's play through it. And blow your nose and then your eye just goes like this. A girl out and back. Did you sneeze out your Madula oblongata?
Starting point is 00:35:19 Oh, he just, he was the left and he punched me in the face really hard about three times right at the start of the fight. And I'm like, oh, you're a lefty, huh? Great. And then, yeah, I'm sitting in the penalty box looking across the ice
Starting point is 00:35:32 and I can't keep my eye, my vision up. Like, it just keeps dropping. That doesn't sound fun. I blow my nose. It's not a farmer rocket or whatever it's called in the shower after the game. And it just goes, oh, it's not a normal line of work, is it Dean? You know what?
Starting point is 00:35:53 It never happened to me in a broadcast booth. There's just a lot. visualizing there. You shower, snot rockets, I, boop, I prefer not to the penalty box,
Starting point is 00:36:03 eye dropping. Yeah, prefer not to do that. But, uh, so they'll practice today, the flames will. And then it's the sharks again tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:36:11 They went to 7d 11 forwards and Zahorna's first time watching. Zahorna, a non-COVID illness. Okay. So don't, don't just. And as Daryl said post game. They had Chinese food last night because there is a,
Starting point is 00:36:25 phenomenal, spectacular Chinese restaurant in the hotel in San Jose. Like, world class. Really good. Do they serve telecki peckis? So what makes a world class Chinese restaurant? Well, it's fresh, right? Not everything's, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:45 it's not the same sauce on everything. It's all good. Well, and probably like any restaurant, does it taste unbelievable and you want more? Like, I don't know what they did, but I love it. Yeah, I guess I just think you hear about world class, like a French restaurant or sushi, perhaps, right? That sort of thing.
Starting point is 00:36:59 It's just, I don't know. I've never thought of, you're ordering Chinese. I didn't know that you'd go somewhere for the best Chinese food. That's because you go to the cheapest joint in town and get the- It's not true. It's because you're hammering ginger beef. That's a Calgary pepper bronze. That's not from China.
Starting point is 00:37:16 Salt pepper bronze are so good. So delicious. Are you done shopping? Well, thanks to Justin. That went a long way, yes. Got Mama Bear taking care. What about the galutes? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:34 Do I have any say in the galutes? Probably not. That's a good point. Yeah. Do you want to have any say? So I, no, no. Whatever that 6'4-8 monster is stealing of yours,
Starting point is 00:37:46 buy him more of those. Like, if it's your socks disappear in or your workout shirts, like that's what you need. That's the only way you're interfering here is if it's affecting your wardrobe. His middle guy, his middle brother attacked him the other day because he stole his gitch and was wearing his gills. Itch. So the middle guy did not appreciate that he was wearing his jelly bean undies.
Starting point is 00:38:04 That was a BS and his big fight about it. Crossed a line right there. There's a jelly bean. Well, you mentioned Justin. And for those people out there, again, we're taping whatever we're doing with this thing. It's the 19th. So you've got, you know, Sunday is the day. It's now less than a week is my mouth.
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Starting point is 00:39:25 He is very slender. He'd have no problem. problem. I feel like he doesn't have enough cushioning for the falls. He's got to know his way down. Santa's always got that extra padding coming down. Eat a sandwich. Justin. He's in good shape. You brought up down the chimney. You brought up, uh, Jim Carrey the other day and then for some reason, because my phone listens to me, uh, Jim Carrey popped up on my phone talking about Santa Claus and coming down the chimney and how it's all related to some astrophysical and
Starting point is 00:39:57 religion and it was like, oh, this guy is deep. He's got to be close to you. He's a crazy person for sure. He's a crazy person. He's a crazy person. He's deep in the cuckoo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:09 I do like that movie though. I do like the Grinch. Yeah, the mask was good too. Yeah, that is good. He's good at Ace Ventura one. Phenomenal. Yeah, that was a. Would you like a cookie son?
Starting point is 00:40:21 Lace is out. All I think about with that is Wade Beelak because it was I think it was our draft year. And because it was after the draft. And we were in Hartford. And this is the party we had was me and Wade Belak and Curtis Brown and my brother drinking beer in a hotel room watching Jim Carrey. And Belak was just couldn't contain himself.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Dying. Dying. How was Hartford? Never been to Hartford. Awful. It's the shits. I didn't think Wade Redden liked it. I wonder if Alex wants to jump in.
Starting point is 00:40:53 And you a shot. Awful. How would you, now, some. people would say, let's just go compare Buffalo to Hartford. Yeah. Because I feel some people might have them in that same category. Compare or contrast. And you're probably right because Hartford down, but Hartford is way more expensive. There's no lake as far as I know around, right? Like, I don't know that it's blue color. Is that accurate? Like Buffalo blue color. Yeah. It's like insurance and finance. There's not a football team in Hartford. No, any chance. It's not a, uh, uh, a, uh, a, uh,
Starting point is 00:41:31 And, yeah, there's no NHL. There's no football. There's no, it's, but that being said, probably the suburbs are, yeah, wonderful. I'm sure it's a nice area. Flight in is terrible. Curtis Brown wanted to, he was crying in the plane. What? What?
Starting point is 00:41:50 A flight. Go on, brownie. A muddle jumper. And there was storms in the area. And we were bouncing around like crazy and Brownie was freaking out, freaking out. It's awesome. Hartford, probably a suburb is probably just fine. It's just fine.
Starting point is 00:42:07 I'm just looking. It's probably too far to commute to New York. It's like two plus hours here. That's not the move. I think of a brownie. So he would have lived in Moose Jaw and Prince Albert. Unity, Saskatchewan. Unity, Saskatchewan.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Buffalo. Then he went to San Jose. He wasn't San Jose. And he's just like, what planet am I on? Yeah, I don't even know what this is. Where are the snowdress? What the hell? He's still in.
Starting point is 00:42:32 He's still in. Oh, really? He didn't move, hey? Weird. He didn't go back to PA? He owed a place in Austin when he lived in... Oh, see, that would be a move. He'd spend the summer in Austin, but then it was too hot.
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Starting point is 00:43:33 All right, fellas, here we go. After an incredibly lackluster loss to the St. Louis Blues on Friday at the dome, it was the first of four in a row on the road in California before the Christmas break. A must have against the San Jose sharks. See what our boy from Iconic did for the Game Day poster. Yeah. He's just absolutely on fire right now. If you don't follow iconic, what is it, Iconic EC, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:58 They have a, they have a gentleman. on staff. Their boy. Who is incredibly talented when it comes to Photoshop and altering photos. I think we showed the Santa Claus one last week. That's right. Put our faces and our mugs in on it. Every single game,
Starting point is 00:44:12 if it's a, it's a Flames game day, you know one is coming and they are getting better. We talked to them at the, what was that? The turkey ball. Turkey ball. He's like,
Starting point is 00:44:22 yeah, it's kind of, it's getting harder because. There's 82 games. I'm trying to do one for every game. Like, jeez, you are doing one for that. Raise the bar.
Starting point is 00:44:29 There's an expectation. now. So it's a lot of pressure. He's got like this show. I guess it's such such high heights. You know, you get to be so good and so popular and so strong. It's hard to maintain. Yeah. Just like us. We do have that poster at some point. We'll probably flash it
Starting point is 00:44:44 later. That's fine. It's all right. Jonathan Eubro looked all right on the peeps coming out of the box there. This was the past we've been waiting for. The paper. The paper. The paper. Yeah. How do you like this? It's a good passer. It looks like he's been trying too hard, but you can tell he's a very good passer because he's trying things
Starting point is 00:45:00 that people that just would have no business even thinking about. What he needs is some finishers. Yeah. Because you don't really talk about great passers when there aren't goals. Because Adam Oates had Hull. Yeah. They nearly had Janney. You know, in Edmonton, you've got McDavid to dry sidel.
Starting point is 00:45:19 You generally need someone to finish to be considered an elite passer. That quote of mine works the other way, too. Which quote is that? there's never been an assist without a goal you know what sometimes they'll add a second assist yeah is there a goal if there's a second but there's still been a goal scored
Starting point is 00:45:43 yeah still gotta have that goal uh do you want to watch the dennis gilbert scrap ret it was there we go the fight night at the tank can we watch the start do we have to watch the whole yeah oh how does this dance you're doing come on it's getting ready you know So the Flames had seven majors this year for fighting Rett. Guess how many Gilbert has? Seven?
Starting point is 00:46:08 Four. Like how many, has he got ten games? It's quite impressive. He's fought every game, I think. Oh, well, not quite, but like, yeah, it's a lot. And it's not like he's...
Starting point is 00:46:19 How many games has he played? He's not seatbelting guys here. He's taking some shots in these. He's going at it. That was a good fight. This was a... It took off right there. And another one right.
Starting point is 00:46:29 Bink. There you go. Oh, what? Did you see what he did there? He got lazy. He didn't throw a punch when he popped his head up that time and then he took one.
Starting point is 00:46:37 So if you're coming up, you better be throwing is what you're saying. Well, they had a routine. They could have just kept doing it all night. Trade, trade, trade, trade, trade.
Starting point is 00:46:45 But when he came up, he didn't throw it. He stood there. Oh, oops. Yeah. I'm telling you. Sutter post game suggesting he'll be fine.
Starting point is 00:46:55 I don't know whether that means they're going to dress 7D again or that he'd be in, but one of the factors will certainly be the status of Nik. to Zedorov, who took a shot late. Fine, too, except for...
Starting point is 00:47:06 On the arm. Health and brain injuries. Yeah, that's not an ankle. That's the face bone, right there, you got it on. Watch right here. Yeah. Didn't throw. All right.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Do we have the Zadora block here or no? I know that's, yeah, this is late. So look at the time. Less than... Some days, I'd like to do that to you, too, just so you know. Oh, yeah. I understand that. right there sliding in front hurdle shot
Starting point is 00:47:35 ouch and he goes right to the bench from there from that position in the slot and never came back it was late that wouldn't be a I mean who knows that absolutely could be it I'm not here to say it's not but you hope it's not a wrist something or other look they're just already thin without TANF right and maybe TANF's back on Tuesday but point being I don't think you want to roll six guys if three of them are Mackey Stone and Gilbert.
Starting point is 00:48:04 Well, and if Zahorna is better, right? You're going to throw him back in. Right, but my point is if you're missing Tanna-Venzadora, what's left in the blue line? I could care less about your fourth line at that point, right? Well, you're not going to start seven. Probably not. We'll see status update probably come today after skate.
Starting point is 00:48:24 Tomash Hurdle's going to have a little chat with the league, retro. He got a little feisty. He's a rotten. dirty player. He looked like my kid in U-9 on the weekend is he took a two-hander right up at the neck area of another player. Oof. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:48:40 Yeah. What's up with your kid? Every weekend. Watch this one here. So, Linholm gives him a little chop. Flack. Oh, that's a two-handler little. That's like a lacrosse.
Starting point is 00:48:51 And that's in the neckle region, right? The throat-hole neckle. Yeah, that would break your necklis for sure. Yeah. My guy got a two-hander as well. across the ankles. So it wasn't as bad as that. But still, same vibes. Not Mother Teresa, the other one. Yeah. Yeah. It's a fine. At least. Yeah, it's 5K or it's a game. It's probably 5K. But I guess not what you want to see. Like, he's probably not meaning to do that, but still, like,
Starting point is 00:49:18 that's a dangerous part in the body. That could have been serious. But I think he was meaning to do that. I think he absolutely meant to slash him. I don't think he's trying to catch him here. If he is trying to catch him there, then suspend them. Hey, sorry. Shoot, my stick came up. Whoopsie daisies. Yeah. Did you raise my stick there?
Starting point is 00:49:36 No, no, you chop me in the neck. Oh. Rematch tomorrow. We're okay with the punch each other in the face contests, but don't you. Yeah, that's right. That's right.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Yeah. We only want one kind of head injury. Rhett, if you were on the flames and you didn't like that from hurdle, would you rather have them suspended for Tuesday's game tomorrow or to have them on the ice so you could take runs at them tomorrow? No, suspend them. Okay. There's lots of hockey left still.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Not the last time. I mean, San Jose is not that good, but hurdles one of the few guys that is good. So just eliminate that issue too. Yeah, that's a big picture. I like that. Happy anniversary, boys. It is Jerome McMismus Day. It was this day in 1995.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Look at that smiling young man. Rett. Campbellton, New Broth. You were in Campbellton. Is that Peter Marville? Shaw us with Peter Marr. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:50:35 On this day. Wow. World Junior camp. Is that what you were doing or what? World juniors. I can see the, I can see Iggy sitting there. I can see him.
Starting point is 00:50:45 I can see the hotel room. I could see, yeah. The group of guys is there. Can you elaborate? Can you tell us? Yeah. Please. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:53 I got some deeds. It'll follow up yours. I was in, I was in Florida and I got sent to the world junior training camp. I think the team maybe we hadn't cut everyone yet but we were very close to having the team picked
Starting point is 00:51:09 and yeah I can remember walking down the hallway and poking my head in one of the rooms because you had your practice or whatever and you're just sitting around kind of the rest of the day I'm sure we would have had a team building or some sort of event but middle of the day and Iggy was in there and he's like
Starting point is 00:51:25 we just got traded to Calgary and everyone's like right on for he's like for new one doing come like Whoa. No one died. That's amazing. How'd the rest of that tournament go, do you recall? Because he wasn't that good then. I had to take care of him the whole tournament without me.
Starting point is 00:51:43 Well, and I was, uh, he was my secret Santa, too. And he got me as a shitty. Watch your mouth, right. Kids. You go, what? Yeah, that's true. He got your what? Because I think we must, we must have discussed that one, like, I'm like, oh, I'm going to buy a Harley one day.
Starting point is 00:52:01 And he got me a, a. It was a joke. Like a bike horn thing. Bike horn. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because he'd put it on your Harley. Yeah. That Iggy.
Starting point is 00:52:11 Yeah. Well, Rhett did a great job and taking care of him that tournament. In six games, he led the tournament with 12 points, had two assists in the gold medal game that they won. And while the rest is history, he leads the franchise in games played with 1,219 goals, 525 and points with 1,095. Pretty good deal for both teams. Ray, was Newindyke on that Dallas Stars team in 99 that won? Can't remember. Because, you know, it's one of those deals where you hope it works out for everybody.
Starting point is 00:52:43 Newndyke leaves, goes to Dallas. Why would Brett be an expert on that Dallas team, Dean? You want him to succeed? Of course, we know that again, it was a great success here. First of all, you prick, they didn't win because they cheated, right? So I don't consider that winning. They had the cheater spread in Dallas. It was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:52:59 But he was on that team, right? He was. Might have been. Okay. feels like an unnecessary shot dean i couldn't i was just clarifying i knew who won that year yeah yeah yeah dean yeah delis navida yeah real nice yeah and uh is that guy returning your texts yet because last we checked he was ghosted he did oh good okay okay that's good so i'm i'm paying him back i ignoring him good yeah yeah that's what we need yeah look at him he's like ha ha got
Starting point is 00:53:35 you red he's sitting there wherever here's a Honk, honk horn for your Harley. I hope Red's not mad at me. I texted him, but he hasn't texted me back. Boy, geez, I was out of the country. I come back, I text the guy, and I hope he's all right. I'm going to let him stew on it for a while. Yeah, that's, I think it'll be okay.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Let's go to the NHL from the weekend. One of our boys, the sway dog, like this close. Have a look. This is the end of the game against Columbus. Is this Jeremy? This is Jeremy Sweman, the sway dog. look at this thing. It is tracking. Oh!
Starting point is 00:54:13 It hits the curve part of the net at the bottom on the outside. Like this thing looks great. It's like over the dot at center. Oh! What do you have to do to get a goalie goal? It's so hard to do, yeah. This guy should be able to shoot it in every time. Loser, goaltenders are useless. Stop the puck.
Starting point is 00:54:31 If you can't shoot it down the ice into the empty net, you shouldn't play. Rhett, I got a guy that the Bruins should call up. He happens to be on their ECHL affiliate. same organization. He doesn't miss the empty nets. Let's go. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:54:44 ECHL, Maine against Adirondack. Oh, and in traffic too? Oh, yeah. Like, that's what we're talking about. Hard of the net. Boom. Golly goal. How hard is it?
Starting point is 00:54:57 Yeah. And look, he's four feet. No, he's kneeling. Never mind. Okay. But you know what I like here? You watch the clip. He said, yeah, well, you know what?
Starting point is 00:55:03 What do you do after you score? Yep. You go do to the train number of the line. That's unbelievable. You go to, go to, hey, I scored the goal. I got to lead the train. Hey, Ronnie Hextel has done two, but he's never done the high five train.
Starting point is 00:55:15 That's my favorite part. I would absolutely. That's unreal. Miners, you play back to back games a lot of times. I hope Adirondack just ran. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:26 There you go, you cocky prick. Yeah, I want to see a goalie fight the next time these two teams meet. Center ice, Smith versus Talbot, let's go.
Starting point is 00:55:34 Jacob Truba, apparently not a fan of Andreas Athena, or just has a great memory. So Athanasio, happy to see you, plays in Chicago, was chirping the Rangers rear guard. He blasts a 95 mile an hour clapper off as a Benajad drop pass, Wango, and then, hey, you want the puck? You want the puck?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Right to Athanasio who's chirping him the last time they played. I can get to the puck. Do you want the puck? I'm happy to give it yet. I've scored lots. I'll give you this. Do you want the puck? Trooper hit him.
Starting point is 00:56:06 He said that's a dirty hit. This guy's a dirty hitter. He's always hitting guys late. Trubis, what are you talking about? Now look at this. Vapor. Rangers have won seven in a row. They back.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Because remember, he was taking heat. He's the Rangers captain. Makes a lot money. Was getting kicked out of a game, took his helmet off, and fired it at the boards. And everyone was say, oh, Captain can't behave like that. Poor sportsmanship. They've won every game since. They got some talent there.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Panarin, Sabinichad, Fox, Shastirkin, Rainer. Vesnik guy? All right. Okay, I'll move on. Staying with goalies. Our old buddy, the skin dog up in Edmonton, extension today. He's making league minimum, league minimum, RFA with Arbrites this summer. No longer, my friend.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Three year extension, $2.6 million for Skinner, who's far and away been the oilers best goalie, which maybe sounds better than it actually is, but he's been good this year. It's just the other guy's been shirt of dog. and yeah they're paying 7.6 for two goalies which seems like a decent amount. Flames are in that neck of the woods.
Starting point is 00:57:18 It's half of what Florida's doing. So how bad is that? It doesn't seem like a thing you wanted that too. I like the contract for the Oilers and Skinner. I don't like Bobrovsky at Tanton if anyone's trying to sift through what I was just unpacking there. Well, you take a lot of runs because you took a run of Campbell and you had Bobrovsky. It's just hard to keep up.
Starting point is 00:57:38 I don't know where you were headed with that. all over the place. No, he's been their best goalie, and they got him around two and a half for the next three years. Okay, just in time for dry saddle McDavid, he'll go with him. And there it is.
Starting point is 00:57:51 NFL weekend. We'll start with some of the Saturday action, Rhett, which I know you'll love. We'll get to what you're going to love the most in a moment, but first, the Indianapolis Colts led by a billion? The greatest collapse in NFL history? 33.
Starting point is 00:58:10 33. point lead. Is that right? That feels like a lot. It is. It's a lot because because it's a lot. Minnesota comes back and wins.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Like like, uh-oh, it's getting real now. Go ahead, Redd. Two things. I'm upset because it used to be the bill's record for comeback. That's right. Comeback used to be the bills.
Starting point is 00:58:39 They used to hold that. record. And secondly, I didn't see the start. I saw it was like 3624 or something. I can't remember exactly. I turned it on. So I turned it on and I saw cousins throw a pick
Starting point is 00:58:54 down like at the five yard line. I'm like oh, okay. Well that's over. In the fourth. I'm like, well, that should end it. So I went and watched some stupid movie. About to go to the next kids hockey game flipped a couple channels. Minnie. Winning. What? the hell just happened.
Starting point is 00:59:12 Yeah, imagine if you tune in it was 363, because that's what a lot of people saw and we're like, I'm out of here. I'll wait till the Browns kick off later. And so add that to the list of crazy wins for the Vikings this year. And then all the other crazy ones I had. There were seven and one with like five miracle wins.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And it was crazy, it's kind of two things. That you had that big of, well, it's more than that. You had that big of a lead and lost it. Yeah. 33 points you give up. You didn't score again. Nothing. You couldn't have thrown in a field.
Starting point is 00:59:40 goal somewhere along the way to get to 30. And you look and it was a special teams and a defensive touchdown as well. Like the 33 to get there. It wasn't the offense humming necessarily. And Matt Ryan's been a part of a few of these now. Do we remember 23, 283 late in the third quarter? It's Super Bowl, a little game a few. This is it for him, right?
Starting point is 01:00:01 This is like Phillip Rivers. Yeah. It's not pretty at the end for most of these guys. It's over. Didn't the coach make an idiot. call too. Speaking of New England, watch this.
Starting point is 01:00:13 So this is, we're heading overtime, right, 2424. Don't do anything stupid. It's tied. Get to the house if you can. Okay. Oh,
Starting point is 01:00:19 you're going to try low. Yeah. It's okay. We'll go to overtime. See you wins. May the best man. Oh, no. Oh, fuck.
Starting point is 01:00:24 No. No, no. No, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Raiders win. Interesting choice for sure. It's something. And look at them going nuts
Starting point is 01:00:37 in that stadium. They blew like a 14-3 lead early and New England came storming back. And then that at the end. They had money down in Vegas. Well, most of that fan base would. Chandler Jones, Haas, last play of the game. Speaking of the last plays of the game,
Starting point is 01:00:53 Jaguars control their own destiny. They have not caught Tennessee in the standings, but they play them. Week 18. The Jags make a huge play to, what is it, pick six late, beat Dallas. Holy. I was watching.
Starting point is 01:01:08 There was another one of those games where you watch it, you think you've got it figured, I don't need to watch any more of this. It was all cowboys. Like, okay. They stub their toe last week. They'll turn. Yeah, of course they're going to turn around.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And then Red? Oh, Jesus. Yeah. Gross. The play of the weekend. Rough conditions in Buffalo. But I love a good kicker slide after a game-winning field goal. They were dusting it off with their hands.
Starting point is 01:01:32 You're not allowed towels. All the guys quickly dust it off. Here comes Bass to win the game in a blizzard. How do you celebrate? That's how you do it right there. Yeah. Didn't cover it, but they got to win. Who cares, right? That's Miami. We're happy. Split the season series of Miami.
Starting point is 01:02:00 Sorry, I was going to say, you talk about how much money. When people saw the forecast, how many people jumped on the under? There's going to be no points scored. It's a few. That's what, 50 some odd. Oh, yeah, the 62. Okay, well, we missed on that one. That's too many, yeah, for sure. World Cups over Argentina world champs
Starting point is 01:02:21 Do you think they are having fun in Buenos Aires Which looks beautiful by the way I know it's summer but Like that's two million people partying in the street That's all just two Like it's And it looks quite pleasant So kind of a big deal then
Starting point is 01:02:41 Seems I mean I remember when my floor hockey team went undefeated in the year three university. That was a big party, but this seems to be bigger. Look at this, eh? Are we going to get flagged on this? Hope not.
Starting point is 01:02:58 What someone's going to get flagged for is the Argentinian keeper, who I believe won some sort of trophy for the best goaltender in the tournament, and then proceeded to, well, oh dear. Oh, geez. Dude. Now that's a birth defect if I've ever seen one. Better tell Buddy with his kids that they can't listen or watch.
Starting point is 01:03:20 His role models, right? It's not even jerk broadcasters. These are pro athletes. I'm sure they loved it in guitar. Yeah, I'm sure the sheiks and the princes and the kingdom and all that, they were happy with that. By the way, if you like narrow victories, the World Cup final was one of them,
Starting point is 01:03:38 just an all-time game for the ages. How about, though, this, for a margin of victory, it is the first round of fantasy football playoffs. There are narrow margins, and then there are 0.08. points as myself, neutered dad has got finger-cooking with Bill needing a stat correction and a tiny one at that. 0.08 points. How did it go for you guys in the playoffs? Round one. I was going to say, it's weird that you would have some horseshoes. After my 9-0 start. Moving on
Starting point is 01:04:11 with 88 point victory. Yeah. Well, I better look next year, guys. That's usually enough. Are they doing a A constellation side of the Are they? Oh, sorry, Lamar Jackson crapped himself halfway through the year He decided not to play and then he's hurt. Should have traded for Allen. He had a big week.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Anyway. Sorry, I have my championship ring plugging my ear. I can't hear you. You let me know when you win one. I run the first year, you'd donkey. Don't think you did. I did.
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Starting point is 01:05:18 Let's look at our Betway bets of the day. On Mondays, we go back and see just how smart we're on Friday. Yeah, there it is. There it is. There they are. We're just missed. Look at this pick right here. Wow.
Starting point is 01:05:33 Boomer Pinder and Retro with the picks. We'll start, we can start with mine. Last week went opposite and went two and one. Yeah, opposite Georgia. Abandoned it after one week. And I did, and I really should have because I go back. to Friday. And there were picks I make,
Starting point is 01:05:49 I mean, I made some picks yesterday. I forget what the hell I did going back. I knew I hated the Vikings pick at the time. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:58 You really would have hated a ton at the half. Yeah. And a lot after three quarters. Yeah. And even more than that, hated the extra, the point five.
Starting point is 01:06:05 Yeah, the hook, you said. The little hook there. It's the worst. So yeah, for sure. Baltimore,
Starting point is 01:06:10 no good. Weird. A team with their third-stern quarterback didn't get it. Hmm. And the Lions. How about the lines? Dramatic, too.
Starting point is 01:06:18 People are, hey, you got a love. Rolling, rolling, rolling. Beat the jets. So I go one and two. We'll take a look at Pinders' picks. I was on the other side of that Vikings one, so that's a win. It was way too many points for the Texans who lose, but lose at least by less than two touchdowns.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah. And so close on the chargers. Ah, they let me down only winning by three. That's right. Derek Henry against a bad run defense. Your team. I thought you'd be happier for your chargers. I'm happy for them.
Starting point is 01:06:50 Two and one again. Take it. Big win. And Retro, we know that the bills will be in there. We knew by Saturday that they did not cover the six and a half. Bengals were down a lot early, too. That's a nice second half for them and Vegas, Detroit. Yeah, well, it was double digits.
Starting point is 01:07:06 I was, because I was on... All Tampa early. You're like, what's up with Joe Burrow? So, right? I think you're on a nice little run here, aren't you? Because you had that one guaranteed from last week. The bills didn't cover for you, but you had that Browns-Bengals guaranteed win.
Starting point is 01:07:20 But a nice little two-and-one recovery for you there. I'm feeling pretty good about my picks. I got my finger on the pulse right now. Yeah. Moving the next couple of weeks, I should do well. You know what they say? Hard work pays off. So all that research you've been doing on the spreads and the money and trends,
Starting point is 01:07:38 starting to show up. There you go. That's our Betway bets of the day up the weekend. What have you? What do we got tonight, Rams Pack? Yeah, two bad teams. We didn't think we're bad teams at the beginning of the year. This is the middle looked really good on a Monday.
Starting point is 01:07:50 Ooh, yeah. Aaron Rogers gets the Super Bowl Christmas. Yeah. Got to hunker down and watch that game right before it's going to be great. Oh, so good. Can't wait. Gross. You're going to hunker down anyway because it's minus a thousand, so you'll be hunkering.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You're probably right. I'll get by hunker on. You just need to get high to make it interesting. Yeah. Want to mention this before we wrap it up today. Jasper Travel. We've been telling you about Jasper Travel. Cabin Capital of Canada.
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Starting point is 01:09:08 These are beautiful, beautiful cabs. It's Jasper. Go and check it out. Jasper.comable slash winter dash cabins for more information. So there you go. And with that, I believe, we've done all the damage we can do today. More or less. I thought we would take more shots at the flames for their performance on Friday.
Starting point is 01:09:29 I had a cannon loaded up. I was thinking that. Yeah, if there was a show on Saturday, it would have been, obviously. I'll say that. Oof. Well, because it was their worst of the year. I was there and I was banged up and it was ugly. Not me, but the flames performance.
Starting point is 01:09:45 I'm sure. That was both. So what did you see? Because you watched it this morning. You watched it today. So it's fresh in your... I watched it last night. Gross.
Starting point is 01:09:54 I watched it last night. Yeah. Great, Bob. I just thought, these are the ones we're good at because we can just make fun of everyone because they were terrible. This is your time to shine before we go.
Starting point is 01:10:07 You can tee off if you'd like. Oh, I'm there. It's, that's, that's, that's, no. That's a cheap shot. We don't have to go there. If they lose on Tuesday in San Jose, we can... Don't do that, please. Please don't lose.
Starting point is 01:10:22 You were saying... No, room Christmas. Chances are you won't see Capo Caccanon in that. The Rhyme Dog has been pretty solid there considering the environment he has to operate in. And I don't know that Caccanon did anything to deserve another start. That Dylan Dubay goal, like, that is puppy poop. That is soft.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yeah, I'm not a goalie. but that's not, I could have stopped that one. That's not controlling your rebound. He stays on it. Like, no, it's, yeah, no, it's in the corner, bud. Yeah, that's an empty net you left behind you. Why don't you watch on Tuesday?
Starting point is 01:10:56 Why don't you get that ball cap, just curved up all right? Work the gate. What time is that game? That's really late. Is it another 8th? 10.30 here. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:08 Yeah, it's. Don't stay up for that. Watch it the next morning. And then again, on Thursday, but we are not doing a show on Friday. So. Oh, why? Because we're going to be hung over.
Starting point is 01:11:20 On Thursday, and I don't know if this is, if this could be one of those things because Thursday is the 22nd. You'll have some, some days leading up to Christmas. You could maybe tune in live. You can make a plan to watch it. After the point, we are going to have some Christmas spirits on the show on Thursday. The holiday spirits. spirits and I would say just join in for the fun.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It's kind of play along at home. If you know this show and prior iterations of it, you'll know Thursday's going to be the show of the year. Yeah, it's going to have a lot of downloads, a lot of viewers. It's going to be big. I don't want to overhype it, but it'll be the best show we've done on this format.
Starting point is 01:12:01 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've yet to send the list, too, but I'm sending it. It's been, dragons. I've got garnished and mix, and I'm working on all kinds of things here. No brands. It's just we're going to, you know what it is? We're going to really enjoy the season and be very responsible. We bet responsibly and we enjoy our spirits responsibly.
Starting point is 01:12:23 I'm going to get dragged home by a snowmobile. I don't know how I'm getting home. I don't know how I'm getting here. Don't drive your car here is going to be the tip. Well, I guarantee, yeah. I'm going immediately to a, well, not immediately, but I'll probably carry on at a Christmas party. Yeah, I've got a doubleheader on that.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I'm still trying to figure out. how this person affords all the things they have because they don't work. I'm like, drug dealer. Are you up? Is it, it's a drug or body? Oh,
Starting point is 01:12:52 all right, everybody. It's probably a good time to do it. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a good one, everybody. Stay warm. If you're here,
Starting point is 01:12:59 wherever you are, I guess stay warm regardless. See you. Felice naveda. That's what he said. That's what he said. That's what he said. Bye now.

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