Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - FlamesNation Barn Burner: The Calgary Flames Losing Streak Is Over + LA Kings Gameday

Episode Date: November 14, 2022

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Yeah, buddies. Welcome to Barnburner on your Monday. Boomer Pinder Warner. Game day, get your helmet on. We had ourselves a little long weekend, thankful to those. A little long. Who served and continued to serve as we pay tribute over the weekend.

I suggest, well, I guess it sounds like, because we did have a little bit of a conversation before we got into the show. It sounded like everyone here had a good weekend. Yeah, it sounded very much so. We didn't get Princey's update, but... Damn fine weekend, Dean.

Yeah, yeah. For the yo-yos and bozos. Yeah, we're taking some heat for not having the YouTube thing starting right on time. We're not respecting their lives and their time. Here's a hot tip for you. If you want your time respected, show up at 10.35. I apologize. Yeah, just...

That seems to be the start time now. And it's, look, I mean, there's a lot going on. This is basically a YouTube channel where there are many shows. We can't start this show until the last one's wrap. I made mention of it before the Redster. I made mention before we started. And again, this is very much a visual element. So apologies to those of you who are listening on the podcast.

You can't go and check it out on YouTube. But the hair today. I'm not going to say it's unkempt, kept, kemped. That's months ago. Yeah, that's about a year ago. It was unkempt. You'll have some kind of a thing in there to keep it out of your face. Like so it's a bandana or a toque or whatever.

And yes, it's really, it's really quite something. Such a Bob vibes. See, the thing that people don't even realize is they think this is the crazy. Like, we're just almost dry. Give it another couple hours and then it's going to go, so you get to, this is tamed, believe it or not, to some extent. Like maybe as tamed as a wild horse could be, but yeah, it gets crazier. Red, how long was your hair in its, uh, in its, uh, in its,

luxurious prime. Yeah, where were you, peak main? I could chew on it. It was long enough to... Probably that long. Right about there. Anyway. Greasy.

It's a look. You know what? And if I could do it, I'd do it. I was just jealousy. I don't think it's going to be forever, but you've got to do it once just to see how it goes, right? Retro. I still don't understand what you're accomplishing. How's my mic?

Somebody said there's an echo. I think you sound fine. Tap your mic. You know the drill. I don't know the drill. Yeah, you're good. That mic is good. Yeah.

Is it angled towards you ever so slightly? You just need to get off the chat because I... Yeah, that's true. I can tell when you're not engaged in the conversation because your nose is in your keyboard and you're worried about your mic. Listen, poor Nesto here wants to have a drink and I'm just trying to tell them, give her, man. Like, what are you waiting for? Fuck Nesto!

Oh. Wow, that's a heavy start to the week. That's a top Monday. That's a piano off the three-story building intro to this twer jar. Well, he was complaining about the start time. Nestle, I take it back. I'll take it back. Is Nestle going to take it back too?

Probably Nesta didn't deserve that kind of a, it was maybe a little aggressive for Nesto. The Calgary Flames, it's game day. They've got the L.A. Kings. Where's that losing streak at? How are we doing? It's gone. See you later?

It was up to six. seven, and then it left town with the Winnipeg Jets. Thank you. Jets went out of Seattle, got a win there. But Rick Bonas took that one for us. That's right. The Calgary Flames found away. The Findaway Flames on Saturday. Yeah, that's exciting.

It's a exciting game, tight. It was, and not a lack of high quality for the Jets. That's sort of been the theme of the flames, the last, I want to say, five games. They've done a good job of getting a lot of. a shot volume and a decent amount of quality. And they haven't given up a lot. But what they have gave up, there seems to be a lot of, oh, there's your first shot of the game, Jacob Markstrom, and it's wide open from the hash mark.

I was looking out of this morning, the last five games they've had the lead in all of them. And in, like, three, four of the five, it's been early. This one was 223 in against Boston, Hanuff and scored at the 4-43 mark. Codry in the second New Jersey game, 1158. Backland had them out 1-0 in Long Island, 11-16. And then Codry, the early one here before the collapse against the Devils, 1-0, a minute 24, minute 29 in. So they've had the lead.

The other thing was on that road trip. I don't think they allowed a shot in the first 10 minutes in any of those three games. I was going to say in this one here again, they had a 1-0 lead before giving up a shot on goal. So the starts have been great. They've now got the losing done. What was, we've talked about this before. Do you remember what your longest, most miserable losing slash winless streak was? Does anything stand out?

13. Oh. And was that Florida? 13 losses in a row. Yeah, Florida probably. First or second year? I know Kirk Muller was on the team. It was third or fourth year in Florida.

I don't know. I think it was my third year in Florida. We went to the finals first year. Then we lost to the Rangers in round one. And then we absolutely tanked. So it's part of a lost year? My third year. Yeah, Brian Murray came in to the meal in Ottawa and was like, I don't know why you guys are all stressed out.

We're not making playoffs. No play. All right, everyone relax. Book your tea times. Thanks, Tony Robbins. Yeah, exactly. Mix in a little Alex Tangay golf visor and we're there. Let's go.

Is that what he said we're not making the playoffs? What are so stressed about, boys? We're fucked. I don't know what the hell you guys are walking on eggshells from. I mean, we're not making the playoffs. That was when there was no ties, right? Right. Didn't get a point for a tie.

We just lost. Okay. If you went in overtime, you didn't get a point. Gotcha. Oh, I see. No losing points. Two points, or however that goofy, whatever. That was the only thing holding you back?

We just lost 13 in a row. You're 13 in a row. We had 13 losses in a row, not a tie in there. I see. And did you make the playoffs? Did you show him? Hey, let's show it to... No, sure.

Didn't. No, hey. How high did they pick that year? You remember? I got to go out to a great Oasis concert in West Palm Beach. It was a really good show. That would be a good show. Wow.

That would have been right in there. It was a small window of them actually existing as a band and not infighting and MFing each other. Yeah. The, uh, I sat down to watch this game. Now I watched it after the fact via the PVR, went dark, didn't know anything about it. Oh, really? It's tough to do. Here's tonight's lines.

It's a blaggy, blaggy, and Lindholm with Rizhka. There's go again. Top line, Rosie. So Rizhika can get time, but Matthew Phillips can't get a sniff. Not if not a second, not a nothing. And we've been rolling out Rizekka. Scars! Oh.

That Rizchka? Oh, wow, yeah, it was Lindholm in front. Rizchka scores. So, okay, on the one game, I'm going to come into the show and I'm going to start, this is going to be my thing. I'm going to plant my flag in the why is Rizchka in? It's your hot take. Phillips can't start.

This is some BS. Go on an assist and looked all right, I suppose. I still don't. Is it enigma? Something you can't really figure out. He gets you go, you think you see something. And then it's like, man, where is that? She's just so inconsistent.

Yep. He leaves you wanting more. And I know Kelly Rudy talked about, what was he, six foot four, two hundred and some pounds. Yeah, he's a unit. You'd never know by watching him play. He ups up to one shift. He teases you.

with a week. I mean, it sounds like we're cracking on the guy, but I mean, it's all there. There's not a tool missing. It's just that he can't bring his best game terribly regularly, although if you put him there, he seems to be listening to his quotes about it. He's like, I know my role on this line. I have to be the hunter and go get loose pucks. I mean, I like that more than him fourth line center where it's like, yeah, you just might not see him for a period if someone shortens the bench. So Rosie, your boy. Is it your boy? Kind of. It's had a lot of boys, though, to be fair. I don't know if he's Alan Quine level of heartthrob, but he's up there.

So why did we, this is when you were, what, you spent a year going down to Stockton and working with the heat and Rosie was down there, Rizikas, who were talking about, of course. Did you form a bond with him? Yeah. No, there was no bond. I don't think I've said three words to the kid. I just thought that, like all of us, the toolkit looks real good. Yeah. Nice, big.

You drafted them. you develop them. This is going to be a great story if you just do it every game. Yeah. And he did have some good HL numbers to the point where it's like, okay, he's on this roster for a reason. He belongs here to an extent. Like, here's your chance to make the NHL son, right?

So I'm glad he's getting looks here, but I think Flames fans would be a lot happier if it was a healthy Huberto clicking at a point and a half per game on a top line, not him. You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. And I think to this point, this is the first time he's been used as a winger, this last little, this since Huberto left and they moved him up,

he has been used primarily as a center. Kind of gets you more involved physically, less responsibility defensively. I could see that sort of freeing up someone a bit maybe from their own head. Yeah, I guess. I don't think you ever want to be able, or you ever want to be in a spot where you're taking a natural center, as they call. where you're taking a center and putting him to the wing. It feels like that's almost a bit of a, let's try him here because it's not working here.

But if this is what it is, then fine. Well, and look, they were a top nine guy shy, so now the lines must be perfect, right? Weird lines. Weird lines. It's the Kings tonight. The lines look thus from the skate today. Ruzitschka will remain with Lindholm and Tofoli.

Cadry with Milan, Lu Cheech and Rumanjapani. Jonathan Hubertal will get back into the lineup. He will not go to his usual spot. He will join Backland and Lewis. What does that line scream to you when you think of those three together? Leftovers in the fridge or masterpiece meal. Dubay moving from wing to center with Coleman and Richie,

the Yrundo. a healthy scratch. Rooners must be liking the popcorn here because he has not really moved the needle much, has he? At least not in a good way. I don't... Dubay can't be overly excited about. I like Coleman, but I mean,

it just looks like you got three third lines there, doesn't it? I did not like Coleman's slew foot the other day. Give me, yeah, it was... Dubois didn't like it either. They're going to take them both. So what do you deduce from this? because there's a Rizich on the top line. Okay, we've seen that.

Milan Luchich, who I, another guy that I was going to rip, because he's on the second team power play. And he's just, and I said it earlier. And you kind of said, well, he's always been, he is turning over the puck. A lot. All the time. And I, it's, yes, he's never been super protective with it,

but it just feels like this year. He's an even more of a liability with it. Huberto doesn't start in a spot that you would think is, really, that's not as, put him in a plot. If there was another winger on the other side of Backland, I might say, okay, like if you gave him Manj on the other side or To Foley, like Manjapani Backl put a lot together. Many of the 3M carnations have involved Mangapani and Backland.

Then you'd be like, okay, try to sell it. But with Lewis on one side, that looks like a checking line with a guy that's known for not being good defensively in all offense. Weird. It reeks of Darrell doing too much is what it reeks of. Or he's not sure what Huberto's true status. Or he's saying, I'm not thrilled with this player thus far. You earn your way up the lineup and you're going to start by playing defense.

And that sort of feels like the vibes around Daryl with Yubertoe right now, which is great to see one month into a nine-year marriage. Yeah, how's that going to play out long-term fellows like that? Better get better. Oh, boy. Is that really what we're at? So what's going to determine Mr. Huberto, our best player, or supposed to be our best player,

what determines, okay, you're good to move up because you're doing good at checking? Well, you tell me what would work for Daryl? What does he want to see? I don't know. That's why I'm confused. He's pushed too many buttons this year already. I think it's hard work in defensive responsibility.

He's always going to win Daryl over, right? Oh, God. So were we all screaming that Hubertoe was lazy and cheating the system? Are we all going, damn it, man, get some points? I mean, I think we are all on the same page, but I think Daryl's been rather critical of his play

when pressed on the issue. Because you could, as you said, you could look at this group, this four, these four lines and feel like there's... This is Jeff Ward making lines. There's Huberto, Coleman, Dubay, Luchich, could all be being sent a message here. In theory.

Yeah. So Luchich, you would think, so you're being rewarded, I guess, because you're moving up to Cadri and Mangapani. Dube, you're back to center, but you're centering, I guess it's the fourth line. Coleman, you've been good with Backland. Sutter said as much, but now you're away from him.

And on a fourth line in Huberto, you've been, yeah, you're the stud on the third line. The other thing is every single line has a guy... With Lewis! It's not a third line. It's not even a good third line. I don't know. Lewis on there just to...

This is my point. Every single line has a guy that's a fourth liner. Lewis has miscast outside a fourth line role. Rojeechika's been a healthy scratch in a fourth liner the bulk of the season in his career in this league. Loochich is best served on the fourth line right now. Brett Ritchie's a fourth liner. So Darrell is not stacking into... terms of skill. He's spreading out your fourth liners on every single line. And so I'm a little bit

leery to suggest these all last. I don't know that it works well. While we're unpacking things. Yes. This is a clip from Daryl Sutter when he was basically asked about the night that Rizichka and Lindholm had, both of them with a goal and an assist in the win over Winnipeg on Saturday. Daryl was asked about thoughts of Rizigga on that line with Lindholm and this is what he had to say. Now listen closely because there's a few things here for sure. I like not necessarily, you know, obviously he scored tonight and, but I like that Lindy likes who he's playing with. He's our best forward Lundy. So you shouldn't be experimenting with him.

Okay. See, it's not a lot, but it is a lot. I'm going to need that again. I'm sorry. You need, I'm telling you, you need a pen and a paper. Yeah. Because there's not a lot there, but there's a lot there. So again, Daryl asked about Rizitschka on that line with Lindholm.

I like not necessarily, you know, obviously he scored tonight. And, but I like that Lindy likes who he's playing with. He's our best forward Lundy. So you shouldn't be experimenting with him. Okay. There's three things there that I find on. I like that Lindy likes who he's playing with. Yep.

Lindy's our best forward. Yep. Shouldn't be experimenting with him. And how many of those three things are shots at Hubert? So all, none, half of each? So Red. What, again, And this feels like we're, it feels like we're cherry.

But when I heard it, I was legitimately, hmm, is that a shit? Is he helping? Is that what do we? If this was a one-off, I think it would be like, whatever. But when you had the eye, he was probably taking a shit. And, you know, he did, he seems sort of like, I guess he couldn't get his skate on. And now today in his game back, more with Hubert. In today, the first game back, he doesn't go to the Lindholm line.

Yeah. So all of this around Huberto is seeming very not off to the greatest start. I wonder what Jonathan Huberto, ice time expert, Alan Walsh feels about it. I feel like we should get him on us against. Daryl will have a sword through his back and some Photoshop. If it goes poorly, yeah. So, I mean, but is that what we're Lindholm? Well, confused, aren't we?

Yeah. I mean, it confused maybe is the wrong word, but, like, there's certainly a lot of questions surrounding, where the coach and his star player for the next eight and three quarters years are at. Dramatic pause. So a few things. Probably it doesn't stay that way for long, right?

If you don't want to experiment with Lindy, well, how about you experiment with something else? And I don't like the lines. I don't like how they look. I don't like the messages. I don't like the way Daryl's handled the lines this year. I don't agree with how he changed them up and flipped him back and took shots of guys. I think the team was playing well and all of a sudden they had the one blip against the Oilers and it wasn't even a bad game. They could have won and all of a sudden all everything went to hell in a hand. Like it's it was a it came across as a panic move. Everyone

seemed to be enjoying the way the season was going. There were high fives all around. Yeah. Cauder looked awesome. It's been nothing but question marks. Yep. It's true. Now to be fair, their work ethic really hit the skis. kids around the same time. And I thought there was a change in Sutter's tone when they got home from that roadie. He was complimentary about the process and said, hey, we've been working hard. I'm not worried about that. Guys got to start finishing, which is kind of a story about puck luck that road trip.

They outshot their opponents. They had leads in all three games. They come on with one point. Great. Why did we do all those changes before? It's clearly looking for something, right? And the other thing is, yeah, and the other thing is, yeah, The other thing is when you have to talk to the media every day, you have to answer them.

What the hell is he going to say? Well, I think the team's terrible and I'd like to quit and we should just back it in. We're done. Like, of course he's going to say, oh, the process is good. The guys are working. We'll be fine. There's no. But I guess, let me put yourself in Daryl's shoes.

Your post game after a three to win, Rizitschka and Lindholm both with a goal and an assist. And there was chemistry. Those weren't just off of, off your pants. in there was a fluke goal the first one's a fluke goal the second one's a great pass and a backdoor tap in the second is not a fluke goal goal what okay so one goal what so i'm all i'm saying chemistry and i mean they're playing great they got a fluky goal early in the game so that immediately all right listen you're asked as a coach so these two guys go on assists you know what'd you see what'd you like, your options would be looked good. Your option could be a fluky goal. Whatever. He chose to do

that. I'm happy Lindholm is playing with someone he likes. He's our best forward. We shouldn't be experimenting. That's left field. That's not made. That's not being made up on the spot. Well, I'm not disagree with that. I thought you were going down a different path of saying that these guys looked great no no i'm just saying that was the question sorry so i how did darrell get to that answer responded that was as odd as his as his comments about hubertoe when everyone's like what are you talking about right it's like what okay like you know the deepest you could get with it was oh huberto must have some sort of ache or injury and darrell doesn't want anyone to ask him about it oh okay There was a million other things he could have said that weren't what he said that wouldn't have caused any eyebrows to be raised.

And he still wouldn't have been bugged about his something wrong with Huberto. And then he said that. This answer is either a deliberate shot at someone in that room and they know who they are or Daryl just talking crazy talk. I don't know. If he's deflecting again, I don't know what he's deflecting from. I don't know what. How did Lindholm become this centerpiece of this question and answer period? And anyway, it's nothing other than confusing.

And if that's what he wanted to do, he's done a great job. He's confused us. Because that's what I was going to say. Now Lindholm is going to be, so who don't you like? Who do you not like playing with me? He's like, what the hell? Did you not like playing with me? I had two points.

We didn't work together? I thought I had one of my better games of the year. Now, why am I in the crosshairs here? I don't know. 14 games in. We've seen a lot. To Rett's point, there's been a lot of oversteering and panic-type moves for a very veteran coach

that feel rather unnecessary at the time and in hindsight. And a very veteran lineup. It's not like Darrell ever. House is a lineup that's a bunch of, young kids that need mental manipulation. He relies on his veterans so much because he doesn't want, well, I assume he doesn't want to have to play good,

but maybe he wants veteran guys because they're used to being, I don't know. I'm starting to get confused by all this. It took Rooney being dog shirt before Rojcichke even got in. Like he's not run in a young lineup here. No. Nothing young about this lineup. It could have been.

Like even a camp, he separated all the, those HL guys. They're like, oh, no one stood out. No one. Well,

yeah, because you separated all the NHL vets and all the prospects. How are you supposed to take a job there? Put them on the same life service. And we'll all be singing his praises if all of this comes together,

the problem being it hasn't been that smooth a 14, 15, 15 years, whatever they're at. 500. Yeah. With a great start. There were more.

Like 15 minutes, 10 minutes away from 6 and 1. Yeah, the majority of the listeners and people around it would think, this is completely unnecessary. I don't see this coming together at all, right? Like, I don't know. What's Hubertos? If this goes on for another couple weeks,

he's going to be going, oh, great. Well, get used to it. The other thing is. Because you've got an extension and so does the coach. Well, I don't. Make it work, guys. A third line winger that isn't even playing on a really good third line. If you've got Lewis on it, sorry, Mr. Lewis, but it's true.

If you were saying Backland and Hubertow and Coleman or Tofolie or Manjapani, you could sell it. Okay, okay. We're going to get you with solid players. Those four lines are, that's bingo right there. That's all that is. Fourth liner on every line. There is no fourth line. Is that the message he's trying to send?

Is he spreading it out? Like, wow. I don't. I don't see it. Well, he kind of did it with his pairs the other night, but it was Tannaev's first game back. He put Tannav with, I believe, was it Mackie or D. Simone in Mackey? Yeah.

And it was Zedorov playing with Uyghur, and then the Hanofin-Anderson's been left alone for a long time now in like years. But at Skate yesterday, they had TANV back with Uyghur and a more traditional third pair. So I don't know. He's clearly looking for something that he hasn't seen yet. And to be fair, there's been very few 60-minute efforts. And even when they have played well, there's been really, really egregious breakdowns

and turnovers and mistakes. So I can see him being frustrated. This team hasn't looked like a Daryl team for a lot of this season. So can we go back to the argument? So part of the problem sometimes with a veteran-laden group is that they've been through the rigamaral and they get a little bit staked. What are the young teams all talk about?

What are like hungry? Buffalo they got a bunch of young guys in Ottawa and like the youth remember when Marlow was in was in Toronto and Thornton was in Florida all these young guys they got me wound up I'm going out for dinners I'm having fun is exciting and it's fresh and it's like rejuvenated feed off of the youth yes you feed off of the the the energy of that the kids There's none of that. Trying to think who the underscad his team is.

Dobe doesn't know what the hell. Go back to the lineups if you can, Prince. Dupe doesn't know where he's going. Is he going up, down, left, sideways? Is he a Wrangler or is he a flame? Is he getting moved? I don't know. I thought the kid was going to establish himself in some way.

He hasn't done it at all. Backlands, backland. Lewis is a piece that you throw in there because Darrell liked him from L.A. Rooney, I don't know what. you can find 1,800 Rooney's around the league. Ruzica has been in the lineup for a couple of games, but I don't think he's the energy guy. He's never been known as a spark plug guy.

Like even as a kid, he's not going to bring that intensity. Hubert O, not young, not bringing it. Cadre, he's played quite well, but I mean, he's 32. He is a 32-year-old guy. To Foley, no. Manjapani's been dog shirt this year, in my opinion. I mean, maybe because he had such a great year last year, but he hasn't been Coleman's Coleman. He's kind of, if you don't notice him, you're okay with it.

But again, he's not. And Luch, everyone loves Luch, but what the hell is he doing on the second line? Again. Like, and he can't even bring the energy anymore. He's not running around, dropping mitts, beating people up. And when he does, it's almost, I'm sorry, it's the old guy doing. it because he has to. It's not a young guy excited to go on to do it

like he did when he started. That's just the natural progression of those players. So there's nothing in that lineup that screams excitement. There's two guys under 25. Rzitschka, who's hardly played until he's been playing, and Dubay, who's bounced around the lineup

with different guys in the bottom nine all year. That's it. And we talked about... We talked about this before the show started, that... that, you know, three, two game the other night, and you had, you know, near 35 shots, this looks very much like a offensively challenged team.

You obviously, you lose Godreau and you lose Cichuk, and then Hubert O's not playing. And Codry brings up a little bit of that, but I know one of the concerns from even inside the club was... Is there going to be enough goals? We're a little... We're going to have to be playing some low-scoring hockey, and you go back to last year,

and you were one of the highest scoring teams, and you didn't need to be in a lot of nights. You'd win 5-1, 5-2, 6, that sort of thing, that maybe it was going to balance out. But right now, you are very much back to, I think, of kind of in your day, retro, where you had Kiprasoff in Net, and it was a 3-2 league.

Daryl told us all the time, and that's how you were going to have to win games. Do you feel like this team is equipped to win 2-1-3-2? They're equipped to win. half the games, 3132, which will not be good enough to get them anywhere. And they're due for some regression to the mean. I don't want to get too nerdy, but like their last four games, they have 147 shots and nine goals. I'll play out the save percentage on that.

It's not good, by the way. It's been all year. I feel like they've been putting up a ton of shots without quality. It's 939 save percentage stuff. So you're right, Rhett, but they're due for some bounces. And we've also seen them slide the puck. through goalies and behind the goalies and out the other side. You're not going to face 939 all year.

You just aren't, no one ever has. It's not going to happen. Do you feel like they're getting goaltended, though? In any of these games? Sorokin, I thought they got goaltended a bit on Long Island, and I thought Vanichek was solid. But more than that, when we're talking pucklock, it's not just about goalies.

It's about posting out. It's about sliding it through the goalie's legs and it going wide of the net and not in. Rather than just nicking the pad, like they're just do some puck luck. That's just the case. You're not going to shoot 147 shots and only nine go in very often. Well, you will.

If I had 147 shots, eight would go in. Well, you're a D man. I get what you're saying, but there's just, it's not like they're not getting quality. There are getting some quality. Sure. They might get a couple more goals, but I don't know. And a couple more goals might win them a couple more games, but it's not. I think they're a normal squad that isn't going to scare.

Like they're not scaring anyone. They've started out the year. You're great. Blah, blah, blah. I wanted to go back because we brought it up. Last year, everyone careered. Half the roster. Not exactly careered.

Yeah, totally. There was a ton of dudes. Yeah, we're high. And so, so even, so you lose a few guys. You bring another guy out. Hubert O careered, right? Right. So, so you're even questioning whether you can do the scoring off,

based off of guys career years. Yeah, I think we all expected. You wouldn't know the score. Yeah. And some of the careers are gone, right? Like, Good Branson had a career year. See you later. Not that that was offense.

But like more than half the roster had the best years of their, of their NHL careers. And that top line was a difference in the sense that if you just played all the games they've played, the last five, they're coming up with more goals than the top line this year has. And it doesn't mean that those guys are way better. It's just that they scored with much more ease and one more goal along the way. You're winning a lot more games. They're in all of these. That's what's so frustrating for Flames fans. They've been blown out once by Buffalo.

Every other game they've had a lead in. They might be the only team in the NHL that's had a lead in all but one game. Like they just, they can't buy one right now. I come back to it. I just, I feel like there's quality of shots.

Because we've seen this team where, these goalies, they're just, every night they're facing a hot goalie. I didn't think Vanichick was that great. There were rebounds galore that they did not get to. I thought Seroquin was okay. I don't, that's not Christopher Gibson territory.

I just think that the shot totals are maybe a little bit misleading. I think there's a lot of stuff that's being thrown on net, registered as a shot. Yeah, sure. This doesn't look like they're really close to breaking through as an offensive team to me. But there's also posts and sliding it behind the goal. I understand. You made that point. Both are there.

I don't see, I just, I don't, I don't, I don't, this doesn't ring like it did in the past where their shooting percentage is struggling or suffering. So the Jets is a perfect example on Saturday because they get a bunch of shots. They would shoot the Jets. I think the Jets probably had more high dangers than them, right? You agree with that? Yeah, I don't think Hellebuk was tremendous. Nope.

He was fine. And, you know, that's all part of this bigger picture in the sense that they've also been pretty good at not allowing other teams a lot of shots. But when they've made mistakes, they're glaring mistakes. And it's like, how many times are we seeing a D-Man jump in and they're wide open at the hash? Like, first shot of the game, welcome to the end. action, Jacob Markstrom, we're 11 minutes in. It's all flames. And here's a guy down Main Street, no defender near him. That was the Islanders Road game where they were up, what, like 13-0-0 on the

shot clock? They would shoot him 18-4 or something hilarious in the first. Like, yes, there could be better quality of shot, but clearly, like, the caliber of mistake they've made is really what's more upsetting for me. The egregious turnover's mistakes, blown coverages. And to be fair, they've used their ninth and tenth defensemen a bunch last week. Okay, and that's whatever, and we can say they are what they are, and they can do better and this and that, what does it add up to? Are we a three-two team? I think they are.

So that was where this start. Are we a three-two team, and are we good enough to be a three-two team? They are Islanders West. It's what we thought they could be before Flames fans realized they had a top line that was the best in the league last year. and I would say if they're healthy on the back end and playing the way Darrell wants,

they're fine as a 3-2 team. They're built that way. There's a lot of really solid defensive players, but if they're... We just said they're not playing that. They haven't. And that's why Darrell's pissed. I think they're good enough

to be that 3-2 team. I think this team should be really good defensively and not give up a lot of high quality. That's why he's pissed. So in other words, we've got to watch boring, shitty hockey. So the goals, And to Darrell's point.

We don't believe they're going to. Darrell's not going to play that style of game you're saying, though, and I agree with you. I don't think he is. And they probably don't have the gunners to do it. So then you're stuck in a situation where what's our style? Because I don't think they're playing fast either. The teams that have seen them play against seem faster. You know, right?

Two guys under 25. That was a. Like, there you go. Like, I just don't. I don't like the makeup. I don't like how this is going. And Darrow might pull it off. And with Markstrom there, you have a goaltender.

And I don't think the team's bad. I just, oh, yeah, yeah. I guess that's what it is. It's tooth and nail all the way down the stretch because it's going to be a goal here or there. And if Hubert O is a 70 point guy instead of a 95 point guy, that's big. It takes 70 more guy right now. If you have to play the lines, if you have to play the lines the way they're set up right now, they aren't offensive or defensive. Like Hubertoe ain't going to be good on the third line.

Is it shut down guy? No. And is that line going to go out and score points for you? No. So it's a dead minute line. It's okay. We'll get a, hopefully we get a wash. Right.

With Luchich on the cadre Mangapani, what is that? Can Looch keep up to Manjapani and cadre offensively? I can't. You can't. I can't. And then I don't think these lines last. And I also think like if you just look generally speaking, would you expect better, the same or worse?

If you ask that question about all these groups or segments of the team, same. I'd expect better goaltending. I'd expect better player to the defense because they're not going to roll D. Simone, Gilbert, pair. You'll get better defensemen. I don't know you'll get. Yeah.

think he'll get better defenseman playing so that alone should like when tannes in the lineup the record's really good yeah it's really they could use a shillington and i don't know like maybe this is off topic is anyone owed an explanation on what the hell's happening here i don't know personal issue well it's a personal issue so is that good enough is everyone okay with that is the team okay with that does the team know what's happening my guess is the team knows and that the line for the public is that it's a personal issue which could be anything. Which could be anything,

but I'm not ranting and raving to know more. Yeah, and I'm not asking the question, is something more owed or not? Do you think that? I don't know. I just have a lot of people asking me saying, what the hell's going on here?

Like, we are season ticket holders, we deserve to know what the hell's happening. And I think the answer depends on what the personal issue is, whether it should be public or not. So I don't know. I read in and would think the fact that we don't know probably tells you what you need to know.

Yeah. That would be where I would. I wouldn't disqual. They could use them. I'll tell you that. Flames right now, goals, now it's still so early in the season. Some teams have played 15. Washington's played 17 games. But as it sits right now, the flames are 21st in the league for goals. I can do it by game here until it's easy here. It's not that early in the year. That's, he's saying that. No, I just mean for mathematical purposes.

More than 80% left you're at. I mean, I understand that how you play now matters, but there's a ton of runway left. I think you'll have lines a lot more settled. than this soon. Maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, I don't know. But I just wonder, if you think of the flames in that about 20 range for goals four, last year they were what, top five? Yep.

Like to five? What do you feel like they're close to getting back to that top five, top 10? Or is this about where they? They should be middle third in offense and they should be top 10 in defense, if not top five, if they're going the way Darrell wants. Because remember last year, Daryl talked about their goals. They wanted goals against, percentage goals for goals against the goals were all goals against and they were i mean they're not

not close to shots there they're there they're a top five shots against team they're tough to get shots against it's just the problem is breakdowns and quality a shot there's a pathway though like markstrom's not going to give you 895 goaltending all year and you're going to have a healthier blue line than they've had for you know the next 80% of the season so what's i i like your positivity opinion. It's wonderful. It's great. What do you expect? In terms of results this year? At the end of the year? Okay, 82 games into the season, it's over. Where the hell are these guys? I think they're... Are you trying to tell me they have home ice?

I don't know. I think there are two, three in the Pacific. And I think that it might not be as pretty in the regular season, but they're the type of team that if Darrell gets them to play the way he wants, they'll be a real tough out in the postseason. because they're physical, they're veteran, they work hard, they'll have defensive structure. Right, and that's a very different looking team, isn't it? Like, I don't think last year's results have anything to do with this year. That's the whole point we're talking about. There's a very different team than last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they're a better postseason team this year.

I wouldn't. Yeah, you're right. You're probably right, because I didn't think the two dopes that left were overly impressive playoffs. To Chuck had an awful playoffs, And Johnny tried, but again, has struggled in that time of year to impact games as he normally does in the regular season. There's teams like that too.

Like, was anyone surprised that the highest scoring team in the NHL that won the President's trophy flamed out to the lightning, a veteran team that had been there before? Like most of us picked Tampa to win that series, didn't we? We had winners at the game on Saturday against the Jets. Our old intern that you forgot. With a parent, I guess, I just, you know,

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8.25 to go. Three, two flames. They started the wave. I wondered if you were okay with it at that point. Why are you doing the wave? Because it's fun. You can do what you want, of course. But like, are you celebrating a big win?

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Look out. And you know what? It happened on the weekend. I knew it was going to happen at some point. Benny! Because we mentioned the Benny text. Greg at Bontan loved him some Sam Bennett. Yeah.

I said that whenever Sam Bennett would score, I knew my phone was going to go off. He hasn't been texting much this year. How's Bennett been going? Well, apparently he was okay on the weekend. Yeah, all right. So anyway, while you're up in that area, and we're now, it's, we're, I'm telling you,

get ready for Christmas. Get thinking about Christmas time because you're going to wow your family, your friends, whatever you're doing. If you bring out some Bonton meat product, Don't go to the thing and get a little thing. Stop it. Just don't do it. Don't waste your money.

Invest in your meals. Greg sent me a picture of a pocetta the other day. Yeah, yeah. Now what is the porchetta porchetta? What is like? It's like a pork tenderloin and then they season around that. They wrap it and they take a pork belly and wrap it around the pork tenderloin. It's kind of like the roast.

a pig turducken. It's good very much, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Madden would approve. Bontan meat, open in 1921. They treat their customers like family. AAA Alberta beef. I think he does.

Didn't we do turduckins with Greg one time? I feel like that rings a bell. He always wants you to, what's the, the haggis. Is that what that is? Haggis is a stomach. He's just, the haggis. He's been on us.

I got to bring you guys. Like, no, I don't need that. I don't know what, don't need some random. There's no need to get gross. No, stomach gross. I still, I got to go back to this Pinder guy because I don't know where your faith is coming from. Are you just, are you really that? I think this could be a really good defensive team.

I look at the Islanders clubs that went back to back in the Eastern Conference final. They're very similar to this team. They want to be defense first, veteran laden, no superstars, lots of guys that are going to get, 20 goals and goaltending and structure. They're third in shots against per game. They're fifth in shots per game. They just need to tighten up the mistakes and get a little more puck luck, which they're due.

I don't see them running away and hiding in the division like last year at all. I don't think they're going to score a lot of goals relative to last year's team. But like they're better than Seattle. They're kind of in the same neighborhood as Edmonton who can't stop a puck, very different concerns up there. And I think Vegas is first. I don't see a California team being better than them. Vancouver being better than them.

That puts you second or third in the Pacific. Anything crazy there? To me, it looks like Vegas is going to run away and hide. They've done it so far. They haven't already. They have 26 points. The Kings, who the Flames play tonight, have 21. Then it's Seattle 19, Edmonton, 18, Calgary.

Kings are interesting. This is the one team I wonder about. They've been young and prospect-laden for a long time. starting to graduate some of them, those guys, but I don't know that any of them are stars. And then also they've gone to add guys like Arvinson and Fiala at really reasonable prices.

And Dowdy's looking a lot more like old Dowdy. Philippineau was a big money signing. And it felt like, what are you paying for there? But he's been really good for them, Adrian Kempe. Campes had a really good year last year, led them in goals.

And then I look at their goalies and I'm like, I don't know that I trust either of these guys. But if they're on, and they'll play with some, structure, maybe? Like, what's clearly not what he was, but I think has aged better than we thought he would after a couple of years where injuries marred it.

And everyone thought Cal Peterson was going to be the man. They paid him as such. He's making big money all of a sudden for a guy that... Tough start for his year. 4.06, 867, say, 8%. So how do you stack up to L.A.? In this division? I think it's a big question.

If they're going to be better than you, ooh, it's sort of leaning towards Rets outlook. You could be in big trouble if you're not better than L.A. The Hubert O thing is massive. If he's a hundred, 110 point guy, that's, that's one. But what do you mean? Wow. That's what he's been. How many times?

He was at last year. 115 is a career. You cannot hold someone to the career year stand. Point a game or better. Yeah, that's very different. 82 is way off from 115. No? Okay.

30 plus points difference? Come on. Fine. Do you really think he's getting close to 82 this year? He's not getting anywhere near? 82 this year. Yeah, I'd like to see him gel with linemates before that happens. He hasn't yet.

Okay. So, well, here's, it's a huge thing. It's going to have to gel with the coach first. I think that's a massive part of it. Is it true what they read in the text there that Francis wrote something about Darrell saying because we've tried him everywhere else and nothing, none of it, might as well put him here because nothing else's work. has he played 10 games yet

it's approached now it's a lot of drama for like nine or eight games whatever it is I'll tell you that like there's clearly an issue between coach and player how big it is and if it gets solved we'll see have you seen something like this before in your time here where maybe Marty Jelina

okay everyone loved Marty Jellan he scored big goals for he who did everything he was he was an energy guy was an excitement guy and darrell could have given rats if he ever played right like he let him walk away for nothing after scoring almost every well three series clinching and he wanted to stay right like we've come a long way from the huberto might be the best passer this team has ever had that's how yeah that was the preseason to him leaving the bench to maybe take a dump we're not sure to

Oh, I guess he couldn't get his foot in his skate, so I guess he's not playing. To, yeah, Lindy's happy. He likes the guys he's playing with. Lindy's our best forward. It's not a guy you want to be experimenting with. Clearly, coach and player aren't on the same page. I don't think, well, Lindholm hasn't looked himself either. I'd like him more of late, but you're right.

And how's his caliber a line mate compared to last year? It's terrible. Wow, it's not supposed to be terrible. probably had Huberto, a 115 point winger. It should be just fine. Well, it doesn't have that word anymore, apparently. We'll see how long that lasts. When the deal was made for Huberto, and I mean, we can talk about the points.

It just felt like Godreau out, Hubert O in. Yeah, you just slide Godreux money over. Whatever Goddrault was going to have for points in a career year or otherwise, Hubert O was probably going to get that in a career year or otherwise. Wrong so far. That's the point I'm making is that if Hubert O suddenly isn't that Godreau, a hundred point guy.

Then everything is off. And in a lot of ways, I think you did a lot of this. I think Caudry came in because you got the Hubertoe thing done. I think the Uyghuror extension got done because Huberto was done and Hubert O was going to be this player.

Can a guy that's been a point per game four times in what, the last four years, suddenly just look lost? Because he has through 11 games. It's the other thing, too. If he was a flame last year, the year before, the year before, and was having these sort of struggles, that'd be one thing.

But this is a guy that's new to the city, new to the team, new to the coach, everything. It's kind of why I give it more runway, because they don't know who to put next to him, to be fair. Or it wouldn't be different all the time. They played him with Godry. They put him with Lindholm. They're not playing with Beckland. Three centers down. And to be fair, like, he's, whether he's just,

softer than the average player or has taken a little more abuse. We've seen him test something. Coach says it's a shit. Hand bugging him. That was on the road trip early, but a game he left. Can't get his foot in the boot. I mean, if you want to cut him some slack,

it would be fair to suggest he hasn't been 100% very often this year. Is Darrell a cut you some slack kind of guy? Nope. Every Sunday in November. Sell Street Burger, New York fries, hosting a family skated Optimist Park Sunday afternoons 1245. You're invited to come out for a free skated Optimist Arena. They'll have some giveaways. They'll have some prizes and a jolly good time as we get throughout this month.

Kidsport Calgary getting some donations in there as well. Brian Braden, everybody at Sell Street doing a great job for kids. They love kids. Helping out the kids. You asked about if Redd had seen this with Daryl before. How about Dustin Brown and Daryl? Today'd be the day to talk about it. The Kings are here.

Yeah, they, they did. 30 goal power forward. They won two cups. The difference being they won a couple cups. And still, Sutter put him in the lineup to a spot where you wondered if he was an NHL or anymore. Or if he's just, it's a salary. He's stuck here. Sutter leaves and he returns to 30 goal for him.

Yeah. Well, so good. That's what we need to have happen is Hubert O. Dog shirt. and then three years from now? No, we don't want that at all. I'm just answering Dean's question. If we've seen something like this before it was Sutter?

That rings really familiar, doesn't it? It's 11 games, but still. Here's the thing. You better figure it out. Amen. They had one of their best years as a franchise last year. Darrell won coach of the year. They had so many guys, as you said, Rhett.

It can be taken as a positive. Guys had career years with Darrell behind the bench. Now, here we are, 14 in. And it's, well, can this, can the coach and player coexist? I don't, I don't, are they going to fire Sutter? They just extended him, so no. Right.

So what are we? Are they going to undo the Uber Dough extension? No. Does he look like a 10.5 million dollar player? No. Figure it out, guys. You're married. Hello.

Figure it out. It is like a marriage. They got to stay together for the kids. Who are the kids? Now find us for every, fans, everybody. Yeah. Stay together for the kids. Find a way to work it out.

Kids are the ones are going to get hurt. I love your mom. I just, I'm not in love with your mom. Jesus. Let's do the Pinder Report. It's a presentation of Village Honda, 76, 6,310 Ave, Northwest. VillageHonda.com.

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Over. Victorious. Can't you tell by the tone of the time. the show, big one at home ice. 3-2 over the chats. Kings tonight, weird 630 puck drop. Chris Tannave was back. We haven't talked enough about it.

This team without Chris Tanov, it hasn't happened often since he's got here. It's been as durable as he's been in his whole career since signing with the flames. They've had some big losses with him out. I think of the Edmonton series where he was missing for most of it and then back with maybe a couple limbs at 100%. And yeah, the bulk of that seven-game skit he was missing for as well. good to see his return. Looks like he'll be paired with McKenzie Weeger,

who I still think also not unlike Hubert O's got a little jelling to do in his new environment. That's good sign for the club. As for some less newsy stuff, less team more gossipy, fun stuff, have a look at Jacob Markstrom's new mask he's getting for the blast he set up. I know Rhett loves goalie mask.

He's always got the, like the skulls, right? So there's the teeth. Those teeth are in. So that's not Tenev's face. A lot of his masks are Tannib's tooth lines. Like all the teeth are missing are actually Tannib's missing T? I don't get the backwards C.

The logo being backwards. Because look at the other side. It's going to be forwards. No, I understand that. But when do you ever put the logo backwards? It's just not a C. It just happens to be a flame in that shape, Dean. It's got to be symmetrical.

It's art, Dean. It's not hard. Stupid. Good looking. No one else puts a reverse logo on anything. Someone's going to, somebody's going to put maple syrup. up on that thing. It's art.

And I believe what we have is the first blasty appearance might be what? Florida. Tuesday the 29th. Cichuck Bowl. We were kind of humming and hot about what date it was. I think that one sticks in our head and it makes sense. That's a big spot. In terms of Bennett back,

Kachuk back, Ubertoe Ubertoe Uighur against their old teams. Should be fun. If they haven't been traded by that. They're going to call up Schwint for that or what? The old Schwint dog. The further, Rett Warner, sky is falling crowd. Here's a look at the Western Conference standings as of

this morning. Flames sitting exactly at 500. Can they find a way to get past Chicago? They are two points out of a wild card with a game in hand. You win tonight, you're into a wild card. It's probably good they're not in some other

divisions, to be fair. And look at Seattle's still humming along, nearly 600 hockey. And they blew one last night against the Jets. Tied with five seconds left one in overtime. Stinking Jets. Okay, we'll move along. Other NHL news, big injuries for the Leafs. Looks like Jake Muzin and T.J. Brody out significant time.

They're going to revisit Muzzin in February. Ferrer, and T.J. Brody, three to four weeks ankle sprain. Some no buenos there for the Leafs. I know everything starts and stops to the Leafs, so we've got to get that out of the way. Patrick Lainey, three to four weeks. He's hurt again for the Blue Jackets. I know sort of when you think about Godro going there, you're like, okay, set up, man, Trigger, man. Well, he's got to be healthy for that to work. Did score back in Finland,

though. I saw that. And Rhett, I want to ask you about this in the American Hockey League over the weekend. We got one of the Sasquatch siting in the NHL. Let's have a look. I believe this is Jesper Walsstadt. Look at that. Golly goal, right in the heart. You ever witness one, get close to one, talk to goalies about one? No, none of the above. I think it's Walsh. that. Isn't that right? Yeah, there's the tweet.

And he was, I believe, a first rounder that they drafted that they like, if I'm correct, or I'm confusing him with someone else. Some goals for you.

That's right. It's going to help that Minnesota offense. Trade for the flame trade for him. Yeah, seriously. Playing with you, Rydell. Doesn't look like much of a passer, but finisher, sure.

NFL, we're bearing the lead. Rett, how's the Bills hangover going? I don't know about the booze. I know about the results. One of the craziest games you'll ever see in the NFL

happened to be yesterday. Bill's Vikings. Vikings are one-lost team, but every win, it was like, yeah, two had died. This guy wasn't there. This team shot himself in the foot, and it looked like they finally had a decent opponent. Bills hold the Vikings off on a one-yard plunge on fourth down. That should win the game. They need a single QB sneak to win the game with 40 seconds left. Let's take a look at Josh Allen in the shadows of his own goalposts. All he needs is to take this ball and move forward half a yard and they win the game. Fumble!

The old fumble rusky. Nobody. And I mean, nobody falls flat in the second half like the Buffalo Bills, Red. What is going on with your team? It's not even falling flat. Why are the bills, why do they, like,

the biggest blowups, mistakes, S storms you could, like three, Epic collapses in the what last nine, 10 games they've played. Kansas City in the playoffs. That will never happen again. Miami a couple weeks ago.

Holy smokes. What a game. Those bills, they sure shot themselves in the foot. Jets. Last night, do anything. How many major epic screw-ups can you have to lose a game? And they shouldn't be in these spots. Look at the graphic here.

last three weeks, three points, three points, and six points. Those are their second halfs. They've had significant leads in all these games. They should have won them all going away. Dorsey's going to get shot to the moon. Is that the O coordinator? Is that who we're talking about? Yeah.

Guy that threw his notepad when they lost to Miami. And we can't talk about the game without talking about. They would eventually lose it in overtime and interception from Allen who struggled with decision making in the second half. There's Rett in the stadium before we get to Rett. The Justin Jefferson catch. the bills love that deal for Stefan Diggs and Stefan Diggs is great.

Guess who Minnesota drafted with that pick? This guy, the best wide receiver. Fourth and 18. In football. Throws up a prayer. They're going to him. And it's a pick. You can't play that any better

except he pulled out of your hands. This is incredible stuff. Catch of the year, game of the year, chaos of the year. So the one question remains. Stop them at the goal line on fourth down. That crazy.

catch. Bill's fumble in the end zone. Wild overtime. Where was Warner sitting? Go for it on fourth and two. Go for it on fourth and two instead of kicking a field goal. When this was all going down in the craziest game of the year, live shot to Rhett. Because you were at the game. He had tickets. Where was

Rhett when this all was happening? No. So that was... No. Was that before kickoff? That was in the start of the game. He was in his car, friends. He was driving home to avoid traffic. You beat. the traffic.

Why would you stay for the wildest NFL game ever when you could beat traffic? When did you leave? It was in the bag. We had it in the bag. You were in the bag or the game was in the bag? All the above. That looks like the passenger seat. I don't care anymore.

I was going to say that's the passenger seat. So he's been into the sauce. Now, we're tight on time. I need you to revisit the epic rant you had in our fantasy football chat at some point later this week. I do have good news for you. This was not a playoff game. Them losing at home to the Vikings

doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme except that I think they're more motivated to figure this out, Red. They are still a Super Bowl contender. It stings, it sucks. They're third in their division somehow. They're still heavy favorites for the Super Bowl. All right, my friend, so get some sleep.

Well, that's, and I was going to ask, because you're so positive in the flames and all that, and the bills have had the second hardest schedule out of any team. They've got seven stars. out yesterday. Alan's not a hundred. I just don't know.

Those are some bad issue is bad picks. Josh Allen, those are some bad picks. Yes. Like that's just it, right? It's like, okay, all that's fine. And yeah, you can spin it into a positive. But you're finding

just like just epic masterful scenarios to lose game. like you're creating up big the issues yourself. Enough to, yeah, like you can't keep

say, wow, we found a way to beat ourselves. Yes. And good teams find ways to win those games.

Right? Like they don't find ways to screw it up. My God. Anyway, hope everything's great. Noel Buffalo. And it is,

it is so Buffalo. It's just, only if you're for a buffalo sports team. Can you imagine the agony and misery that you have to deal with? I'm willing to take some time and go along to hear the rant.

Do you have? Do you have the rant? Explain this to us. Because you are not one that engages on texting. We've talked about this on the show. I'll send you a text. I'll hear from you days later. You don't, you're not great at that. It's not your best skill.

But yesterday, obviously in your car, I guess, because you've beat the traffic. The game is over. Monologue. To the point that I are like were you voice texting, recording just your rambling.

Was someone else typing this? Did you copy and paste this? But in our group chat, I was laid out my heart and soul. It was a tirade. It was a monologue. It was a rant. It was sensational.

Can you do it? Can you give us a read? Can I want you to read it? You want me to read it? For our pals at Village Haunt sponsoring the Pinder report. Give us the goods. Well, Pinder said needed an updated pick. So I sent a picture. That's the one you saw.

Yeah. And then he said, Jason DeForest, looking more like Rob Ray by the day. Ha, ha, ha. The bellow effect. I said, do you want me to read it? Yes. Read the tirade. None of this nonsense of the chat matters. It's sad.

These are a whole bunch of different messages. Just get going. I felt like I needed to, I had to let things out. You were venting. Sad. It's very sad. If you can all take four minutes and make yourself a Buffalo sports fan, just try to imagine how you're supposed to carry on.

You give everything to your teams, and I mean everything. And the pain and heartache only continues. They give you hope, and then they dash it on the cold, hard rocks of despair. and like the hell you live in, you know it will continue through eternity. The pure love of your teams is the worst agony any sane sports fan can endure, and yet you attempt to soldier on

with the hopes and dreams of one day getting rewarded. What do they do? They crater. They implode. They desecrate the sanctity of sport and all that it's meant to be. Like the devil himself, They rise up and smile as they tear your heart and hope from your body.

And then they blame it on you as if it's your own personal stupidity to imagine a life of fulfillment and accomplishment, to imagine that maybe, just maybe, they will do right by you. But it's a false hope, a hope based on nothing, a nothing that encompasses all that dare try to believe that being a Buffalo sports fan will one day bring you the joy you so desire. It is a falseness and they hold you to it. And the only

thing that feeds that evil is your passion and belief. That it can't get any worse. The pain is real, friends. All too real. Week 10. And I'll text, Rhett.

Are you online? Then my picture. And then the picture, yeah. So yeah, the bill's lost. Recap. There's some skull-shaped pizza things and death, yeah, some skull death. Really quickly, a couple other items we want to get to. Team Canada was named for the upcoming World Cup.

A couple shoutouts needed for Calgarians involved. Sam Matacoubae has been playing professionally in Turkey. His younger brother, Elijah's played for cavalry since since inception. He is on the squad. He famously dove into the snowbank in Edmonton during Qualifference. flying. Good to see him out there. A real important cog on this team. And Joel Waterman played for Calvary was the first player to sign an MLS. He made the squad as well off the Montreal Impact roster. Congrats to those two. And all the men, they'll get started next Wednesday. Tournament starts

Sunday with Cutter against Ecuador. Canadians open with Belgium who, you know, top three team, top three rank in the world. And finally, we got a great cup, gents. Argos, Bombers, that's the bracket, and how's the weather in Regina for next Sunday? Well, it looks cold and windy, kind of like a Sunday in late November in Regina. Highs of minus eight, lows of minus 14, wins gusting to 30.

Bring a parka. Are you coming back for it, Red? Are you going to go on? Not a chance. You guys going to that game? I feel like that might have got you back if there's a different team in there, but they missed the playoffs.

some CFL news this morning did you see CFL news this morning you tell me Bo Levi Mitchell of the Calgary Stampeders his rights have been traded to the Hamilton Tiger Cats Oh wow Oh, Bo Bo, that rings a bell Right, Bo Levi Mitchell, the guy will have in studio Tomorrow on the Barnburner

Oh, is he coming in tomorrow? Tomorrow 11 o'clock Get on the YouTube's, let's do that The first Hamilton Tiger Cat to ever come on Barnburner Yeah, and in the final we'll be, I imagine We can't be pulling for Winnipeg to win in Regina You got to go with Corey Mace, our boy, and that Toronto defense in the Great Cup. We'll talk about it later in the week.

Finally, we mentioned bad weather. Rhett, how is it in Buffalo today? And has the shoveler even pushed an ounce of snow yet? There was some, there was a light smattering yesterday, just that it quickly melted. It's not nice. It's cool this week. There might be more, but it's not sticking around. You tell the shoveler, we're starting a support.

We're starting a support group for her. Shovelers around Alberta, send us your photos. Let's show Rhett's Shoveler. We're still helping out here. There's a movement that's happening. Okay, Rent? Some women don't feel comfortable pushing the shovel around. We're going to make it okay.

Send us your photos at Pinda Report on Twitter. Shoveler equality. We're big on it here at Barberra. You can send it to her Twitter account too. Fair enough. What's your Twitter? That's your Pinda Report. Shabbler Y YC, I think.

Your one-stop automotive destination in Calgary, it is Village Honda. Go and see why Calgarians are making the trip up to 76,66310, 110 northwest, 110-half northwest. VillageHonda.com. Is the website to check things out online? Or the QR code. Does that I wonder I drink so much? Is it any wonder? Not really.

Although I'll say this. I moved to Buffalo for the winter, so no, it's not a wonder. Thursday with Ask Ret for Hope Street. Seeing how much is in your brain. Poet. Right? There's a lot there. A lot of eloquent thoughts.

Yeah. Would you call that a soliloquite? I expect more from this week's Ask Red. You've kind of laid the groundwork. You're very thoughtful. I want a soliloquail on Thursday. Delicious. Roasted soliloquale on Thursday's Ask Red.

You can email your questions in Ascorette at Flamesnation.ca, a presentation of Hope Street, property management, Canada's property manager of the year. Ask him how many drinks he's had when he hammered those out. He was in the bag. Were you banged up yesterday? Yeah. You had that glazed look in that photo.

Like deer in the headlights. I wasn't even going to go to the game because it was snowing and cold, but I'm like, what are you talking about? Move to Buffalo not go to the game. That's not a sober man. Before we go today I sent that to you, Dopes.

I send that to Regear. Yeah, you sent it to everywhere. Let's do our Betway bets. Oh, yeah. Going back to the weekend that was, obviously, a little football. We were two and one. Two and one. The week prior, looking to keep a nice little roll.

You go two and one every week. You're going to be all right. I'm two and one every week. I'm going to be all right. Ada boy. Carolina plus points. Tampa covered. Cleveland did not cover against Miami.

So two for three. We'll take it. move along. And see, I looked at that one, because I mentioned it at the end, that I was close to take in the bucks, because you look at us, well, how are the bucks? Seattle's defense is strong, and Tom Brady looks washed up. You know, looks good. Why are they favored again?

It's because that's how the NFL works. Tom loves Munich, huge in Germany. Had the Titans, had the Giants, and missed on the Cowboys. And I almost, I felt, you know, this will be the one, it'll be a prime time game, up at Lambo and Aaron Rogers also looks like he's washed. It would be a very cowboy-esque thing to do to go in there and they lose out, right? I think it was week two or three that both Brady and Rogers won at the same time. It's been a while.

Two and one on the week. I'll take it. Don't like that last loss, but I'll take it down. Did Warner, we know the bills. Bills did not cover. Did they come through? Well, you weren't there.

Did you see the score at the end? It's probably for the best I wasn't there. Can you imagine the agony of those poor fans sat through? Well, and they have the hope built up with that, you know, huge march of the field for the field goal that ties it, the force is over. Or even before that. The fourth down stop? You know, 100%. It's over.

Yeah, it's the roller. This is the Zadora of roller coaster riding there. It's a lot. Yeah, okay. Let's see tomorrow, right? Do we want, you know, we'll save the hockey picks for, for online stuff. Is that all right? We've done a betway second one.

That's your betway bets of the day. So on the show tomorrow, we'll look back in the Kings and Flames 630 start tonight, kind of a weird start. One of four games. Get your helmet on for that 630 start tonight. It is a flames game day. And tomorrow on Barnburner, we'll look at that and have Bo Levi Mitchell, who apparently is a Hamilton-Tycat.

Now... His rights have been... Do you want to go to Hamilton? He was talking to go to Regina and be a ride. He's flying there on Wednesday. He's been doing some desk work for the three-letter network. But officially, an ex-Cagreastampeter, the era,

the Bo Levi era, officially over. Sad. We'll talk to him about it tomorrow. What's up today? Warner. I don't know. Steak and mashed potatoes for supper. You can try to new steak joint out. Hockey. Kids hockey every night, always. Get hockey for life. And I'll watch the flames game. I think I'm going to go with some popcorn tonight. Good call. Thanks, Rod. The white, not hold. Do you get the white? The all white, does DUG get it across the board? I don't have the fancy stuff here, Doug.

Come on, Doug Hutz. All right, everybody, we've been coming to you on your Monday. Thanks for being a part of it here in the Tower, Chrysler Studios. Barnburner. We'll see you tomorrow. Oilers Nation every day coming up next on YouTube. Brett? Oilers suck. See you, buddies.