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Episode Date: May 9, 2023

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That sounds bad. He was sequestered and hanging with your buddy, Gary Bettman. That's right. In Sycoccus, New York. New Jersey. Yeah. Yeah, Sycoccas, New Jersey, which is close to New York. Frank Sarah Valley, our NHL insider.

Wow. But before we get to Frank, I want to see proof of this. I just want you to see this. You know what he was doing? Hobnobbing is what he was doing yesterday. Hobnobing? Hobnobing and Hoboken. Nearby Hoboken.

But yeah, so take a look at this from the, this is the internal draft lottery central. It's the war room. The nerve center. Let's take a look. In addition, three members of the media are in the room. Aaron Portsline from the Athletic, Frank Severelli from Daily Faceoff, and Stephen Winoe from the Associated Press. Gentlemen, wave to the camera.

It looks scintillating. Frank Severelli, our NHL insider for Bontan Meets, joins us now here on the program. Hello, Frank. What a time to be alive. What a time. So how was, so you, how did, I guess, how did it come to be that you were behind the scenes? Because that is, and I put together a video and I won't bore you to go through it all again. But we'll show the ping pong balls and the machine and all of this sort of thing.

Frank and expert on ping pong balls. You and Gary hanging out yesterday. How did that come to be? So I actually asked the NHL if I could be in to witness it. I've never done it. They have reporters in every year that, you know, sort of witness the proceedings. And I wanted to do it. And I guess I picked a really good one, not just because of the stakes with Connor

Bidar, but also because of where he ended up going. You see everyone on social media this, you know, tinfoil hat. This is rigged. You know, of course you want to send them to Chicago, big market. You know, this is the NHL's golden. child team after Jonathan Taves and Patrick Kane are leaving. This is the perfect guy to pass the

torch to for relevancy. And I've seen all of it. And it's just, I was in the room. It's a total crock of shit. People have made up their minds, Frank. It's rigged. Whether that's real or not, they've made their minds up. I'm sorry. Look, I appreciate

a good conspiracy theory. I live with an anti-vaxxer. Like, I get it. I understand. But this ain't it. Yeah, it was, now, having settled that, go ahead. Well, I was going to say, I don't know if I buy into all that, Frank. I mean, they were out to screw the sabers in 99, for sure. We were going to get screwed.

The Panthers got screwed, and also the flames weren't going to win. We couldn't let the flames win in 0304. I mean, it's beyond the lottery. Numerous, numerous situations. I could debate you. John, how about the no goal for the bread hall? How about the next year, no goal in Philadelphia when you cheating bastards shot a puck through the side of the net? And those rotten pricks counted it through the side of the net, Frank.

I mean, the NHL remains incompetent. I think that's a key thing here. We have to remember. Or that Warner gets out to get a screwed at every turn. And so, okay, so let's let's be totally transparent about the draft lottery and let's have a real conversation. which I did in my story on daily faceoff.com today, outlining my whole experience and what it was like, they couldn't get out of their own way

in the presentation of the actual draft lottery results. You saw the gaff that occurred production-wise, which caused Kevin Weeks to read aloud that there was a change in the order and that he basically spoiled the moment. It's not his fault. The league spoiled the moment for the Columbus Blue Jackets, before going to break.

And so my solution to all of that, it's very simple. Being in that room was incredibly eye-opening because it's intense. First off, there's this sort of surgical precision to the process. Everything is done in a very timely and orderly fashion. There's this whole list of, it's a 10-minute monologue.

You obviously saw the video that Gary Betman, he reads all the rules, He introduces everyone in the room. He shows the papers. Like those ping pong balls came in in a black plastic hard case that is literally zip tied together. Someone snips it. It's all, you see everything. It's all on the up and up.

The amazing part about that is the drama that exists between, you know, right in between balls three and four to determine where Connor Bedard is going. It's 20 seconds. It feels like forever. And I was not expecting that at all. I was figuring, you know, sterile room, conference room, you know, kind of a process, yawn, whatever that might be. But you're sitting there and you're trying to flip through these 1,0001 different combinations that are out there saying, okay, so what are the options for ball three? Where could he possibly be going?

To solve the NHL's own problem, instead of flipping over these cards, which as great of a TV presenter as Bill Daly is, You don't need to do it. Take that damn machine that they have and wheel it down the hallway into the actual studio itself and just press play. All you do is do the same damn thing in front of everyone because it is amazing. Could you imagine the TV drama and the pause instead of calling these balls out at 20 second intervals? You stop after the third ball and you go, hey, here are the possibilities. Here are the seven places Connor Bedard can still go to. Here are the live odds in the exact second.

Connor how you feeling? Hey Kyle Davidson in Chicago, how are you feeling? Yarmou Kekleinen? Oh man, your team's out. What does that feel like? Do it for real in front of everyone because I watched the real thing 90 minutes before it actually happened

and it was like the hairs on my neck were standing up. It was cool. Who cares about these dumb cards? The 20 seconds between balls would be problematic. You know what? I'll wait on the video. I'll wait on the video. We'll play it after we let friends.

go because we got Frank, we don't need to waste his time. But they take 20 seconds. So it's start the machine and now you wait for 20 seconds. If you have it queued up, Alex, play it. Because I'd like, but I edited it. He says draw. Go ahead. Okay.

I sped shit up because I play. Play some survivor music. Play something like incredibly dramatic. We're talking about a half hour show anyway, guys. Half hours way too fucking long. The whole thing's done in four minutes and that was two draws. Okay, Alex, start. It's the best four minutes of.

the season. Started over again, Alex, sorry, with volume up. Again, now I've edited this for our own sanity purposes. What a gorgeous room. Cut a lot of stuff out. So here's Gary and Sikaucus. Yeah, Sikakis also known as the devil's asshole, by the way. Go ahead.

Rowan? Let's do it. It is the 8th of May, 2003. Front page. of today's Bergen record, Wall Street Journal, New York Times. It is May 8th. The lottery machine, besides me, will be loaded with 14 balls. Get a good look at that?

Let's start by beginning to show each ball one at a time. One. Two. two, three. Count Dracula here. Four, five, seven. Quality editing. Nine. Dean's getting good. One. Felt. 13. And 14. Please load the balls into the machine and start it. Bees load to load. Begin. So this guy, I love when he's like, turn around and look at the clock. He's a draw. They have one guy barking out draw every 20 seconds. So this is how long you have to wait.

It's amazing. You play some dramatic music. Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, this is a major TV moment. Five. Four, five, nine, and thirteen. Scott Clark, what? Chicago Blackhawks. Chicago Blackhawks will have the first selection.

of the 2,023 NHL draft. Okay, so pause it right here. Yeah, that's the enemy. So I was sitting directly to Scott Clark's left there. The guy from Ernst & Young, the auditor in the process, and in front of me, you can, it's been publicly available since last Friday, well before the draft lottery, are all those 1001 combinations and they're in order.

So as the pick, as the balls are coming out, you can actually like start to cross off, like, okay, who's out of the mix and figure out just, like I said, between that third and fourth ball, all you got to do is pause it. It's unbelievable television right there. You do not have to overthink this. And so the crazy part about this, after all this wraps, we do another draw for the second pick, which is Anaheim. All of that is said and done in under five minutes. And then they spent the next sort of hour and a half production-wise figuring out the show and they're putting the right logos on the cards.

You don't need the cards. No, especially when people think it's rigged. You know what? You're not wrong because some of it you would have to trim the fat because, I mean, one, two, some of that you can probably avoid. There's a way around that. We did a half hour show here. Like, my God.

But it's not like what they're throwing on. It's so scintillating. No, I understand. I understand. But I invite you to then watch the 30-minute video that I, I mean, it's, it's, you. You can't do what they did. First off, it's 16 minutes, and that was 10, 11 of it was Gary reading the rules. Oh, I know. You don't need to do all that. Yeah, I know. But you're not wrong.

Give me the five juicy minutes. If you did the first three balls, then. So after the first three, isn't everyone still kind of in? Lots of teams. Because there was still, what, seven or eight teams that had a chance? The flames were one, but they could only get up to six, right? So there's only a certain number of balls. So.

No, the flames were out at. that point. So almost everyone was out. So not not almost everyone. The only team that was out of the top 11 that was still in the mix was Nashville. So if Nashville won on the last ball, that pick would have reverted then to Anaheim because Nashville could only move from 15 to 5. So the other teams that were out that were in the lottery were the Vancouver Canucks, Baderds hometown, the Flyers, the Detroit Red Wings and one additional team I had in my story. But you can actually know Columbus was still in. They had two out of the final 11.

Anaheim had three. And the Blackhawks had two. A couple other teams, I think San Jose. There was a few teams that were, you know, just had one ball. So that's the cool part. So like you could have a lower third on your TV screen of like, okay, after those three balls, it's super simple to find on the sheet, here's who's still in the mix.

Put a big X over the teams that are out. That's it. It's amazing. Like you could even as you go through it, like after the second ball, like this team's out. Their logo turned gray. This team's like,

that's what you use the 20 seconds for. Yeah. And honestly, if you have that kind of info, it's not dead 20 seconds. You might want a minute and a half to consume it all and say, oh my gosh,

like here's the list of who's left. This is, and then react to the teams get knocked out. There's your GM pout face, whatever. It's definitely. better than Bill Daley flipping cards.

But flipping cards and you have a production gaff leads to all this tinfoil hat bullshit that I can tell you isn't real. Well, yes and no, but like, so how about this? We go back to the year after the full lockout. So Rhett and the flames go to the final in 2004. They don't play in 0405.

There is no games. They're saying they're going to completely do a lottery for all, you know, 29 or 30 teams, whatever it is at the time. The team that was facing bankruptcy issues, needed a new rink or we're going to leave Pittsburgh were the penguins and they get Sidney Crosby. Is there not a small party that buys into being like, boy, a lot of times the best

outcome for the league sure is happening? Explain that one. I didn't witness. Nothing came up that. I didn't witness that lottery. I don't, I have no idea. I can't tell you for sure what the ping pong balls looked like or whatever that case was, however they did it.

To your point. I can only tell you what they could not have wanted McDavid and Edmonton. No, no. And I'm not saying they're all rigged. I'm just saying like it feels like at certain times. It just feels a little too coincidental. I'm not saying last night's rigged. I don't believe it's rigged.

But I just think if there have been maybe some discrepancies in the past, it allows this thing to live. I don't know that it's never, ever been something that's been fun. Isn't it the NBA or can't you always find some if Arizona won it, even though they had a good, this year I agree. This year I agree. This year,

and you all, Bettman wants his Arizona Coyote. I get it. There's probably, there was an excuse for everyone this year. That was the one case. Especially a week before their vote. You could have said, oh, Arizona, they got to get a new arena.

Let's give them badard so they get that vote that passes. You could come up with any scenario in what you want. Here's the thing that I'm going to boil it down to. Gary Bettman has been in this job since 1992, 1993. He's on track to become the longest serving commissioner in pro sports history, which I think is one of the things that he's hanging on to get to. Does anyone really think that he's going to, he's willing to, to stain or tarnish and wipe out his entire 30 plus year legacy to rig a lottery to get him to one, get a player to one city or another? Like, I'm sorry.

Like, I just, I don't see it. How do you, what's your, what are you seeing in reaction with it Chicago, given that, you know, they made more money in season ticket sales last night than they were fined for the entire sexual abuse cover up? So it's a horrible look. I mean, I saw all the tweets. I get what people are saying. And I understand some of the criticism, too, of the punishment and penalty where people were saying, hey, like, consider some of these other things. Arizona, they held a pre-draft workout, and they lost their first round pick. The New Jersey Devils signed Ilya Kovalchuk to a contract that was legal at the time, and they lost their first round pick.

And then the comparison was the Chicago Blackhawks covered up sexual abuse and they did not lose their first round pick and won Connor Bardard. Like I understand where that criticism comes in and I think that part of it is valid. I also don't think that has anything to do with the results last thing. Agreed. Yeah. I think that's part of what's happening though, right? When you see people angry and screaming, they wanted some sort of karmic thing to happen and it didn't and then they're screaming conspiracy. It's not rational.

It's human behavior. If karma was a real thing, then the Anaheim Ducks would have won last night. Because they were the team that lost Crosby in 2005. It was them and the Penguins. I mean, you could cook this any which way you want to try and produce a result that fits your narrative. I'm just here to tell you, like I saw the people in my mention saying, look at you today, just carrying the NHL's water. If there's nothing to hide, how could you?

there were three reporters in there writing it and witnessing it. This is just you're covering up for the NHL with this story. Like I've been among the most critical reporters of the NHL in the last 15 years. I have no skin in the game. I have no water for anyone to carry. I'm telling you what I saw with my own eyes. And I know you could say, oh, well, did you weigh all the balls that they used? Like they used the same balls for the second draw.

If there was an issue, the same numbers would have it came up. Did you have anything on that, Red? I saw you kind of, we're going to jump in. No. All right. Dailyfaceoff.com, you can go and read Frank stuff. It is good stuff, Frank. Good work on that.

And honestly, I think that I'm genuinely kind of entertained by Gary. There's kind of some tongue-and-cheek humor there. I think he recognizes he knows. He's smart guy. He knows who he is and what he is. and what his, uh, the optics,

all that that he has. So I was, I mean, it can be done better for sure. And I, I think it's, I don't know. Now,

as far as Chicago, he recognized that. He made a joke. He made a joke with the cards. He said, like, hey, you better get those cards right.

We don't need any issues. Like, that's a direct quote from in the room. And yet they still had a production issue. Like live TV shit happens. It does. So as far as the hawks moving forward. And then we can move on because there was the oilers in that they played last night.

So. just looking at the draft capital that the Blackhawks have, two firsts this year, two first next year to the year after, something like that, and then four second rounders, two second rounders the year after two. They have got a shit ton of picks in the next three years

in the first three rounds of each of those drafts. This has the cap space up the year. This has the real makings of 2.0 kind of stuff in Chicago, doesn't it? And you're forgetting about the three first rounders that they picked last year in Montreal already that are in their system. It's what I like about what the Blackhawks have done is they ripped the Band-Aid off. There was, you know, this is a very clear direction that we're going in. These are all of the pieces that we're jettisoning.

Patrick Kane and Jonathan Taves really appreciate what you've done here, but you're not coming back. We'll put a statue up and a banner for you. and they didn't tank in the sense that it's not like they sat out pieces or they dressed a third goalie or did any sort of weird shenanigans. From the trade deadline on, they had one of the, if not the worst, one of the worst records in the league because they traded away all their pieces. They got rid of everyone. They signed players last year to one year deals to get draft capital, to get a second round pick for Max. stomy, et cetera, et cetera. I just like that it's very clear and open, here's what we're doing.

This is going to really suck for a number of years. Our team is going to be brutal, but we're trying to grab as many of the pieces that we can, and we're not confused about where we are in this process. We're hoarding prospects right now. That's what we're doing, getting as much draft capital as we can, and we've got to hit on our picks. So what does it look like for them moving forward? Do you see them moving some of those assets for current players? Do you see them being involved in this free agent class that you called one of the worst of all time?

Not long ago, do you see them chasing after some teams in cap trouble? Like, there's lots of ways to weaponize the things they have. They're involved in all those things, I think, already. I think they've engaged in conversation with teams that have cap issues to try and take players off of their hands to get more draft capital. I think they're expecting to be bad again next season. I think what getting Connor Bedard does, they've never set a timeline. I've always sort of viewed it as five years from now.

So sometime in the 2027-28 range that they'll have a chance to be competitive again. I think that has been sped up by two years, something like that. And what it does do this summer is put some pressure on them to sign players. I think to short-term, short-money deals that can provide a better support system for Connor Bredard. You can't just have him come in and throw him to the wolves. You've got, you know, nothing, essentially on your roster. You know, you look this at where the Blackhawks are at for next year.

Tyler Johnson, Jason Dickinson, and Colin Blackwell are your three highest paid forwards. I mean, you need to get a couple of. pieces to bring in there to help him next year to get his feet wet. But I think the exciting part about that too is you're now open to a whole different, you know, category of players. People are going to want to be in Chicago now. They know the city is a great one to live in. The fan base is obviously excited by the ticket sales and you get to play with an unbelievable talent in Connor Bedard. It changes every part of the outlook instead of here, come take a million dollars to get to get your D kicked in next season.

Now you can actually play with a good player in a good market. I don't know if you saw that, Red. Did it went over $5.2.2 million dollars in season ticket sales in the 12 hours. 90 minutes was two and a half million. So it's, yeah, it's been a. So yeah, I mean, oh, we're going to suck. It's not going to matter because people have already bought their tickets. So it's a great.

They're going to suck less with this guy. Yeah. And look, people are going to like to Frank's point, it's a great city. And all of a sudden, yeah, free agents. Why not go to. the next five years is going to be very exciting, you would think. Well, and there's a lot of guys with one year left. Like we talked about the Matthews situation in Toronto.

De Brinkett's in a similar spot in Ottawa, where it's like he's coming up to a spot where, like, there's a lot of, you know, the cap is flat. This is a great time to be the Hawks with Boudard there. It's not like there's massive bidding wars for guys if they come up, UFA or no. Not a lot of teams have the space nor the sex appeal they'll have moving forward. I want to throw a number at you.

not next season, but the season after, when the cap is probably going to be somewhere in the $90 million range, they have $16 million committed. That's it. Like they're going to have $70 plus million in cap space this end, which is crazy. Really quick, on that note, I know there's been a long conversation all year long,

and maybe this is nerdy, maybe this is interesting. The notion that while the IOU isn't paid back from the players to the own, from the pandemic yet. It's almost done. And until it's done, we're not moving up the cap. This feels like a negotiation. I don't think there's much worse in Gary Betman's world than a cap moving up a half million dollars or a million dollars and then jumping 10%.

I mean, that's when we see crazy GM spend and like massive inflation. Would they not want to stagger that a bit? Or does this feel like with a new PA boss that some other thing is going to get, you know, it's going to be horse trading if they try to do that. It just seems to be flat one year and then 10 million the next is, wow. to me. Yeah, that's not going to work. And I think everyone recognizes that. I think the trouble with that is because everyone recognizes it and because it is a negotiation and because players were essentially given $1.25 billion in loans, which they have now paid back or close

to it. The league wants something in return. You know how this works. You just mentioned how Gary Betman's a smart guy and knows who he is and what he is, he ain't afraid to stick his hand out and say, what are you going to do for us? We'll increase the cap, but what's it worth to you? So there is, I believe, an ask in return. I've published what I believe the ask to be. The players have a series of outstanding HRR claims going back, I think,

three seasons, which I believe results in more than $100 million in claims, I think Gary Betman wants them to walk from those claims in exchange for the cap going up by a certain threshold next season, which they can do without increasing the escrow cap. So it will be a negotiation, and this will be the first test for Marty Walsh, the new NHLPA executive director. That was my nerd question. I was going to say, got some escrow in there. That's always good. Is there anything most eyebrow raising from round two? Is it the 3-0 Florida lead?

Is it Seattle up on Dallas? What have you taken on the first? Yeah, Vegas again. And the Devils were down 02 to the Rangers, came back in one, down 02 to Carolina. They win game three, game four coming up tonight. I guess just thoughts as we sit here heading into tonight. Yeah, the easy answer is the Leafs being presented with an absolute

unbelievable a free card to the Stanley Cup final. I mean, not to overstate it, but like someone just forever. We've been building up this idea, not me, but in the marketplace of got to win around.

You have to win around. Just win around. Because the thought process on the other end of that all season long was, yeah, but then you got to face the Boston Bruins in round two. And they have the best regular season record in terms of points and wins in NHL history, 100 plus years.

Well, someone did you the ultimate favor of knocking them off in round one in game seven when they had a lead in the final minute. And now you come out and you absolutely spit the bit in round two, your best players, your core for, they're on a milk carton. And oh, by the way, your GM doesn't have a contract for next year and Austin Matthews needs a new one and is the cap going up? Can they afford to keep this core in place longer? Should they, given the fact that their best players in the biggest moments have folded like a cheap tent in a soft wind? I mean, you tell me, I can't think of a bigger storyline and I think

it's amazing that they have to wallow in it for an additional 48 hours given the fact that they played Sunday and then not again until Wednesday. I wouldn't be surprised to see them roll over. We talked about it the other day, and the more we got into it, the more layers there were. But Austin Matthews, a year away from free agency, he will have the day he's eligible to sign an extension with the Leafs, a no trade clause kick in. Like, have you seen a player at this age with more leverage in a situation? Oh, and by the way, the GM, his contract expires the day before that, too.

GM that he loves, by the way. Like Kyle Dubus and Austin Matthews are extremely close. Leverage, it's funny because he has it in terms of the marketplace. He has it knowing that he can get it on the free agent market. But in some ways, it's fascinating how he hits this moment in time because he's been earning $11.6 million a year for what will have been four of the five years to this point on the contract. And yet, as you consider where he's heading on his next deal after a subpar for him,

for mere mortals, 40-goal season, and what has been, you could look at the points this postseason and say, oh, if you never watched the game, it's like, oh, that's pretty impressive. The game on Sunday was the first game all playoffs long that Austin Matthews didn't have a point. But if you look at these first three games of the series, and if you look at, Games 5, 6, and 7 of just about every series that he's played to this point, he's more or less been a nothing burger. So when you look at that and you consider moving forward, oh, Nathan McKinnon, he gets a big raise from 6.3 to 12.6.

I made the argument on Toronto Radio on Monday that there is not a chance in hell that you can make a case that Austin Matthews deserves one penny more than Nathan McKinnon. But I thought about it, and I want to amend that statement. I don't see a world in which Austin Matthews deserves a penny more than David Pasternak got. He's had the benefit of this big money five-year deal that neither McKinnon nor Pasternak had to fill his bank account. And I think if you look at Pasternak and McKinnon, are there seasons any less impressive than what Austin Matthews has put together? maybe last year and Matthews hitting 60 goals, but Pastornax right there over the last number of years.

But neither those guys got to market, Frank. I think that's a pretty big difference, isn't it, negotiating with the team you want to stay with versus all 32 teams? That seems like a huge difference. Who said Austin Matthews is going to get to market? Well, I mean, if you're saying he doesn't deserve a penny more, it's like, sure, but the market might bear more than that,

especially if you're telling me the cap's going up $8 million in the year, he's jumping in on a new deal. The market will, but you've got a, you got to walk. You got to have the Cajonais to walk. What will that do? I mean, this is why I find it so fascinating. It's like if he isn't super keen to stay in Toronto,

and the way he negotiated that last deal, it's like, give me everything. I want all the money and I want to get to free agency the first year possible. I'm not giving you term. You're not getting a deal on money either. Why is he and his agent going to be easy to deal with now? You know, I could have been better.

I'll take less. This is a guy that's wanted max the whole way through. Why is that going to change? And the thing with a no move clause, I mean, if he's willing to walk as a free agent at the end of the year, is he, depending on what the situation is, is he really going to, you know, he can go where he wants right now,

like this summer or next summer, right? Like, you either use that no trade or you just waiting. I don't know, I don't know that the no move necessarily has Toronto like, shit. Like, it limits them potentially, but if he's leaving. Yeah, it's less about Toronto. It's more about Austin. Like, he gets to pick his path here pretty quick.

I'm not worried about him. Yeah. It's, like, if he wants to be the highest player in the league, he could probably find someone to do it. Could he not get Arizona with their immense, you know, 12.6? And like, am I overpaid? Sure, I was overpaid in my last year. I'll continue to get overpaid.

I'm going home. I don't have to worry about playing in this freaking fish bowl. And you know what? Something in the mix wasn't right. We'll reset here. How's your time, Frank? You got more stuff coming? What do you got to go?

I don't have any better time spent than with you guys. I wanted to ask you about Gerard Gallant. He was let go by the range. Two quick seasons. Last year, second in the Metro, 52 wins. They went to the third round before losing to Tampa Bay. This year, they had that two games to none lead, and then New Jersey came back.

And still it was 107 points, 47 wins. It's pretty good for a guy to lose his job. It's the same is his last stop. It's really, really good. And they got them. And it's like, oh, man, in Florida. This is his track record. He does really well.

they somehow just missed wildly high expectations and he's gone too soon. 47 wins in Florida first in the Atlantic, 22 games into the next year. They're 11, 10, and 1, they fire him. He goes to Vegas Cup finals year round. They lost it to San Jose with that freak thing in round one. Crazy Pavelski penalty. And then he was gone halfway through the next season at 24, 19, and 5. And then the Rangers for two years.

The dude's got one of the best pointing percentages of all time and he gets run every two, three years. What's? Yeah, because you're getting his track record wrong. That's why. Tell us more. So his track record is read between the lines. He's difficult to work with. Okay.

He doesn't take suggestions. He's stubborn. He doesn't like anyone that's managing him. That's his boss to tell him what to do, who to put in his lineup. There's no collaboration. He's a really nice guy. He's a good guy.

He's a pain in the arse to work with. that's that that's why you have success and you you get pushed out the players all like playing for him he's an easy guy to play for uh there's no he can be critical he can be biting uh in terms of his commentary particularly post game you saw that in certain games uh in the first round where he just absolutely ripped their top six but for the most part he gets a lot out of his players because they like him. But it's obvious now watching that track record of regular season success that not a lot of people like employing him for those reasons. So there's a push and pull. I'm not saying he's wrong or he's right or everyone does their job a little bit differently and he'd probably point to it and say,

leave me the F alone. Look at my track record in the regular season. Look at my playoffs and the rounds that I've in the last number of years. And I get it from his side too. I'm just telling you what it is. Yeah. And that's what I was going to ask, because we remember how unceremoniously dumped with Florida he was. They left him out behind the rink to catch a cab.

Yeah, that was a bullshit story. Right? The Vegas thing, obviously, after you go to the Cup final, I guess the vice was tight and everything there. But it's a lot of success to be dumped that quickly. And again, Columbus, three years, no playoffs, tough. Okay, it's a kind of a lot of coaches go to Columbus and don't succeed. But there was on ice success here, but yet the guy, it's three years or three teams in a short amount of time. So it's kind of curious. So I'll give you a potential landing spot for

Gerard Gallant. He's a Detroit Red Wing, gets along real well with Steve Eisenman. I don't think anyone in the Red Wings organization, including Steve Eisenman, was real happy with the comments that their coach Derek Llan made on SportsNet in round one. Which one specifically? Yeah. Where were you in Mexico on a beach? I absolutely was for a while there. I mean, I did remember him sort of poking through some Vasselowski stuff, which I thought

was, that's a little behind the curtain, but give me more. That was it. Okay. So he made those comments and they felt like he crossed the line. And I don't think Steve Eisenman was happy. So I wonder if, you know, obviously you're not gunning your coach based on that, but maybe that shortens the leash a little bit. And if Steve Eisenman likes Gerard Gallant, then maybe he's a good associate coach. So then back to New York, who do you see as a solution as head coach?

And then secondly, if we rewind the clock a little, Jeff Gorton did a masterful job building this thing. Chris Jureig sort of got airlifted in when it was in, you know, the theoretical championship window. How do you view that whole, you know, upper half of the overall? organization right now? I think Chris Drury faced some significant pressure from look their ownership is volatile. Jim Dolan does not mess around. There was pressure I think in November if my time frame is correct to make a coaching change then. Chris Drury resisted it didn't want to do it a year and two months in and they rebounded and obviously made the playoffs but in terms of looking at where they head next. The one thing about the Rangers that's interesting is they've been very

aggressive. They've given up a lot of draft capital in the last few years to take these runs and they've got two rounds to show for it. Now those two rounds are, I don't know, more than the Calgary Flames have to show for it. But I'm just tongue and cheek. That, you know, now moving forward, how aggressive do you be the next time around? If you give up first, second, third, fourth, and Then that's last year, then this year, first and second. It's a lot. And they've now got some big question marks. You know, Patrick Kane, obviously, he needs surgery.

I don't, can he return? Will he return? Does he want to sign in New York? Did he like it? What do they do on the coaching front? Vladimir Tarcenko, is he gone? And then, you know, I think what it does when you make a coaching change like this is it puts pressure on you to get it right.

So will you go with an end? inexperienced guy. They have someone at the NHL level, at least is inexperienced. Chris Knoblock that I think has done a great job in Hartford. Do you go with a more experienced guy? Do you go with someone like a Peter Lavio let? So pick a coach off the scrap heap this time around and say, we're going to take our chances with this guy. I don't know what the right answer is. They've got a lot to figure out. Here in Calgary, Don Maloney. the president of hockey ops. It was talking with Flames TV,

their online stuff yesterday or the day before, talking about amateur meetings coming up, amateur scouting meetings in a couple weeks. They hope to have a GM in place by then. A couple weeks being a little vague, but it's a couple weeks. So I don't know how many teams if they want to talk to the Carolina GM.

There's some teams that are still playing hockey. This due diligence and the search that they want to do, is it going to be, you're going to get to talk to? everybody you want in the next two weeks or what do we expect here yeah i think their process is beginning to ramp up uh i think there's as we've talked about some easy internal interviews to consider kregg conroy uh brad pascal i think is is going to get an interview as well um you know i i've heard it and and i've seen the report about stan bowman likely being in the mix and he is

subject to the same penalty as Joel Quinville, that he will need a commissioner's approval before being able to return to the NHL. I don't anticipate any issue there. There's a lot to unpack with Stan Bowman, but he has done the work. He's been working hand in hand with Sheldon Kennedy and the Respect Group, getting a lot of their stuff off the ground in terms of junior hockey and the landscape there. You can dig in and find out more, and I will reported at some point, but Stan Bowman has put in a ton of work behind the scenes to be ready to get back in. And then we'll see what other, how wide of a net they cast in terms of other people that they'd like to speak to. It's, it's heating up. It's going to begin to heat up.

So I imagine the Sheldon Kennedy piece is a massive one, given that this feels like a PR disaster if that stuff isn't going on and it may still be even if that stuff that you're reporting is happening has happened he was a pretty central figure in the sexual assault or abuse scandal however you want to call it no he was um and i think look i've done my own reporting and due diligence um i've had conversations with the people that were involved and i have a real good understanding and feel for what happened and what didn't some of that is their own story to tell you tell, but I can give you the quick sort of Coles Nodes version in case anyone is curious and in case anyone is critical of what may play out next. I think when you read it and try and boil it down

the report from Jenner & Block that came out about the sexual abuse of Kyle Beach, it sounds gruesome and it sounds horrible. But that's not necessarily what people. people knew at the time then. And I can tell you with a great deal of confidence on my own end, that that's not what Stan Bowman knew, and that's not what Joel Quinville knew. The stuff about, you know, Kyle Beach essentially being held at baseball bat and coerced into doing sexual acts with a video coach,

that's not what those guys were told in the moment in 2010. They were essentially, to paraphrase, told that, quote, something weird happened between a video coach and a player. And in the same meeting without any more details being transpired or told. They were also told by their president and CEO, John McDonough, I'll handle this. I got it. They were in game five or six of the Western Conference final. It's 2010 trying to advance to their first Stanley Cup final in however long. And when your boss tells you he's got it and you think something weird happened, but you don't know what it was, I'm not absolving Stan Bowman or Joel Quenville by any stretch of the imagination. They have an obligation to ask more questions and follow up. I also think the attitude and time was a little bit different then. But when you're told those things, the first time that they actually read and heard how gruesome it was was when the report came out.

So I think it's real dangerous to want to cast dispersions, not saying that they should get off scot-free. I also think that we need to have a larger conversation as a society about what the proper penalty is. That, you know, I don't believe these people should be handed death sentences, that they should have the ability to not work again. they weren't the ones doing the abusing they weren't the ones i believe propping up an abuser they were told a very certain thing and that's what played out so i'll leave it at that that's my understanding of the situation if it were to come up again with stan bowman do they feed you guys at the draft lottery like what kind of it's funny you said that because i i can't do his accent real well the new yorker Gary was like, come over here, get a chicken finger.

It's like, all right. I think I'll wait till you leave. Savarelli, come get a chicken finger. Yes, hey, Savarelli, get over here. Yeah, that's right. Thank you, Frank. Good to see you. Made it to Sarkas and back.

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I know he was along with Dale Tallon and that whole group when, is it Dale Tallon's team that won three cups or is it Stan Bowman's team that won three cups? But yeah, like all the superstars were acquired under Talon, weren't they? Yeah. And that's not to suggest that's, you know,

like, well, nothing was done since then. I mean, there's lots of GMs that have acquired superstars and haven't won shit. Like you do have to round out that roster. But then, like, as we, talk about a bunch. It was like the huge Cibrick contract. And like after they won that third cup,

there's been almost no weighing. And it was clear to everyone. It was time to move along. I think longer before Stan Bowman wanted to acknowledge it. And there was a lot of mad moves. Like you look at that Seth Jones trade. That's just fucking awful. Like, why? Do you understand where you are in the life cycle? You give up two

firsts for that? When you think, yeah, because you think of that whole, and I might be off on Corey Crawford, but I think Crawford's in that mix, too, that we're all under the talent watch. The Kane, Taves, Seabrook, Keith, Crawford, those are your stars. Sharp, Hosa, those were all talent moves. Well, Hosa might have been later, but yeah, I mean, either way, it's, yeah, you can't just say it's one guy's cup team. The one guy also forgot how to put offer sheets together and all that, like, are the qualifying.

Remember that? Whoops. Yeah. We forgot to qualify these players. I'm going to ask you, again, I'm a question guy now, apparently. Oh, good. I was asking lots of questions yesterday. So just as a funzies, if you had changed spots with Dale Tallinn, would you have had as much success as him or Stan Bowman or, let's say, even Kyle Dubus in Toronto?

The point I'm trying to get to is I'm not taking away any work ethic or understanding of the game or having a direction you want to go in. But it's not brilliance to draft. the top three and have a superstar is it no a lot of taking taves it plays out yeah like that's taking taves and it and cane sure but that was your success right like those your pillars my point being we we do revere these guys as mild amazing it's brilliant i would i would argue there are probably guys doing GMing fantasy teams that would have do just as good. Do you get my point about it? When you're gifted generational superstars, yeah.

Yeah, but this is not. And it happens all the time. And if you fail, if the Buffalo Sabres had gotten the McDavid sweepstakes win in the draft, Tim Murray would have a job in the NHL. Oh, my God. brilliant, look at how they're doing. Right? Yeah, the challenges that come with the superstars

isn't, is my team going to be good? It's, can we get them over the hump, get them a championship, and how do I now manage the cap when I'm paying these stars? And that's kind of what we've watched Edmonton try to figure out, right? And they've only been to round three once. So, you know, they've had some poor GMing. There's been some good GMing.

There's been a lot of, in the middle. There's a lot of teams that have got two superstars, but, you know. Yeah. But I'm not just making as, I'm talking in general as a general manager. Do we, do we revere them too much? I think what you want to do is have a checklist and say, okay, how, how is this guy managing the cap? How is this guy in draft and develop?

Because clearly, to your point, if you're gifted four superstars, that's not GM wisdom, right? And even there, if, yes, I'm guessing if you're a GM and you talk about the draft, you will, are you not almost somewhat deferring to your scouting staff and your head of pros? Which you theoretically have built, right? Yeah. Who you hire. Yeah. And that's what I'm getting at.

Is there, name me five really unique GMs that are going about it so differently that that's, that's personal brilliance there. That's not you, the three of us, and I'm not even joking, we could literally run a NHL franchise. You put it, if we put in 14 hours. days or 16 hour days or 20 hour days you're going to learn it you're going to learn who's good you're going to have reporting someone's we would struggle with the numbers dean i'm sorry on that we're going to have to find somebody to bring in to assist us with that but they all have those guys right and they all have those guys too i'm not making light of anything guys do and this but i just i i i the point i'm trying to

get across is sometimes I think that we put too much stock or compliment in what what happens out there. I don't think that. Sorry, I was going to say, right, like the one guy that jumps. Sorry,

let me finish. Just the one guy that jumps out to me is in Carolina. Tulski. They seem to go about it in a unique fashion. Yeah, which is almost owner directed since he took over. There's sort of been this thing about the world differently. And, you know, Tulski's always been an incredibly sharp data guy.

Like, don't pay for goalies. They're incredibly volatile. They don't give them term. Buy off low years, sell on high years. Like, there's just philosophies that those are all data driven, but he's not a front-facing GM. If you've heard any interviews with him, he's not good at that. But is he the GM? He's the GM?

He's not the GM, right? So it's Don Waddell? So is Don Waddell the guy or is Tulski? Or is it the owner who says, no, we're not spending on. on the goalie. We're not spending on Dougie Hamilton. And we're not, no, that's so. Yeah, no.

And so what we're asking is, like, how do we assign credit to one person rather than an organization? I always think it's the same thing with AGMs. Like, how in the world do you know who a good AGM or a bad AGM is when it's the GM that's going to make the final decision anyway? I could be at the table making great suggestions every day or shitty ones every day. And no one's going to know because the GM's got final say. And that's why it's like, we like this concept of, oh, our AGMs, this guy in grooming

that's going to be amazing. The only people that really know if he's either good or not are in the room with them. And those people aren't telling you what's up necessarily, right? And that's not talking about Connie. It's every fucking team. Like, it's really hard to parse through, but when you see teams continually have wins

in areas that are difficult, like the draft, like in picking up guys that are like Nchuschen who've done nothing and bloom into stars, like that's where I think like, okay, this organization is doing something a little bit differently. That's where I would try to hunt for jewels. But it's just so hard to be.

pinpoint that because it's hard to be consistent with that. You bring up Natchewskine. Great. Yeah. Well, but there's teams that swing and missed all the time too, right? And you think that it's going to work. I would argue that the best asset a GM or the biggest

move a GM can make because I think all that other stuff can be compartmentalized and you can have good scouts and and numbers guys and really if you're drafting into top three are you are you screwing this up or even a top five yes maybe further down the draft there might be a four

four five six round pick that turns out but again i think those are those are half flukes i don't think it's a strategy what i would think is almost the most telling on or the toughest thing a gm has to do is decide who's the right fit to coach this group of kids that i've put together because that can Right? That is more indicative of a direct, are we going to have success or not? Because if you put the wrong coach in place, your team will crater no matter what you've done a lot of times.

If you put the right guy in place, your team will rise up and all of a sudden you've got growth and you've got guys bite into it and success follows. There are some GMs to your, and I think it's to your point. when they make a move and just kind of the average, just the not huge hockey fan, but just I've got a favorite team.

I watch a lot of hockey. When the hockey world are, be like, ooh, that does not seem like a good deal. And then it's a bad deal. It's like, how does this guy get? And it's not always that way. I don't know. I think that there's, it's like any boss.

Your success is often directly linked to, how good your employees are and how well your business runs. Yeah, and how can you empower those people that you've gotten underneath you, right? Like that felt like a big issue here. This GM wasn't going to be able to succeed if he couldn't be on the same page as the coach.

Not coming back. So what you're saying, Rhett, co-GMs, Calgary Flames. Well, I just, we put, I honestly, I just, you can have different plans. I just don't know that the, what differentiates a lot of, of these guys like from stan boleman taking the political side of things from stan boleman to who to craig conroy to brad

pascoe to don maloney to whoever else is the guy that you mentioned earlier as a g-n right like is there really that much difference in what like when they go in for an interview with don maloney are they really presenting a different really unique strategy that's kind of like whoa that that is really left field. I'd never thought about it that way. Or is it fairly, I'm going to focus on this, but I like that. Right? Like, I feel like a lot of it is similar.

Yeah, there'd be some mild stylistic things. But I agree. I think you're not necessarily reinventing the wheel. I think there's very few candidates that are that. And I don't know that those guys are necessarily guys leaving. Are supported or good. Yeah. So get the cheapest.

guy you can. Then we'll freak out and say you went for the cheapest. Killing Connie here. He's negotiating right now and you're killing them on the dollars. Your kid sent me a video. I don't know if you knew that. Coming from Buffalo. Yeah, no, this was the, it must have been the Pittsburgh trip.

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the snafu, I guess. So I just, feeds all everything Frank's talking about, right? Because it's like, whose phone didn't fill up last night with, it's rig, this is a conspiracy. Like, that was all night. It was either they don't deserve it or Chicago's one too much or, yeah, it's, I don't know.

It's, I think Frank went on about it. But for poor Weeksy, here he is trying to, and I said it yesterday, doing these things hosting these shows, it's one of the worst jobs in the world. because it's painfully boring and how do you make it interesting and you're talking to hockey people that don't really want to be there they don't want to be on Zoom but this is what it was so the first clip is Kevin Weeks throwing to break and then it's Bill Daley coming back from break and even on the first part of this clip

you'll notice there's the drop board they show here's here's where it is and here's who's left here's what we're doing here's there where we're going Quick break, but when we come back, this is what we're going to be seeing. So there's three teams left on the board. You'll notice in the top left, but Weeksy kind of jumps the gun a little bit here. Come on, Weeksy. And there is our first change in the order, with Columbus dropping to third. So now either Anaheim or Chicago will select first overall.

Anaheim has never selected first overall. And the last time Chicago drafted number one was when they took. Fuchsia Hall of Famer, Patrick Cain. We'll be back. Good luck to each of Anaheim, Columbus, and Chicago. Start with number three. The number three overall selection in the 2023 NHL draft belongs to Columbus Blue Jackets.

How could we've seen that coming? How could you have known? So the problem is that they're doing so much to make this look shiny and interesting when it's not. It's just Bald Bill Daily flipping cards. that 90 minutes before all this happened, and that's what, to Frank's point, you televised because now someone puts the wrong part of the script

on Kevin Weeks' sheet, and it only increases the conspiracy theory, right? How did he know that Columbus was going to pick? For Weeksie. I sure got paid politely to do that shit. Oh, Weeksie. I think he's a good guy. I've never heard a bad word about Kevin Weeks. It's all over your TV.

He's telling you to gamble. He's telling you this isn't rigged. He's doing all kinds of things. He's telling you Columbus is dropping. I myself, I'm a fan. He's catching fish in Seattle. He's telling you there's a team coming to Atlanta. Remember that?

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And a tropical cruise for two exclusively at Village Honda, who present the Pinder report. All right, boys, we start where we just sort of finish there with the draft lottery. The Calgary Flames were one lottery ball away, Dean, from not getting kind of badard. But, yep, the second draw. If it was a 13 instead of a 6, Calgary would have a draft. at sixth overall, which, again, sounds close, but really isn't.

There's lots of numbered balls in there. So, yeah. There were a lot of teams that were one ball away. Yes. Yeah. Never a ball away from a hole in one, maybe, what they say, hand grenades in horseshoes? Close really doesn't count for shit. Like, if you're one off from one in the 50-50, like, no, you're not.

They might have drawn a totally different number. Never really understood that, too, because I feel like in horseshoes you need to. No, no, because you can have a ringer or you can be within a length. Is that how it is? Yeah, that's right. Or a hand grenade, you don't need to be all that close. Ringer? Leanor?

Hangarness, yeah, it was bigger. Right? I feel like you've got a little bit more room for. That's fair. Depending how big the hand grenades. I don't know a lot about hand grenades. Right? You ever throwing a hand grenade?

I'm trying to recall. No, I don't think I have. Yeah, okay. You dropped a bomb in that taxi in Colonna that one time. I've done some of the odd bomb, yeah. Yeah. Disgusting. As you noted, the Calgary Flames

floated a loose timeline intentionally or not for the hiring of a new general manager. As part of the draft day festivities, Brendan Parker, Flames TV chatted with Don Maloney about amateur scouting meetings, la la la. Yes, you would want to have your GM in place for amateur scouting meetings. That makes sense. And they're a few weeks away. And yeah, so that gives us a tighter timeline. I don't know we've heard a few names leaked, but safe to say this thing is well underway. that doesn't leave a ton of time before we should expect to hear the next general manager of the Calgary Flames.

Rett, have they got back to you? Which, like I said earlier, is irrelevant because they all do the same damn thing. So, I mean, throw a dart at a board and let's go. That's right. May the dart land on Rett. Let's go. Come on.

Let's go to the lottery. Let's see how, well, how's the internet reacting to last night's extremely well-oiled machine and non-a-rational. A lot of cons materialism. Top 20 trending topics in the U.S. right now. Top four Blackhawks rigged Bettman Beach. Oh, is a tough luck for the league.

Their best possible outcome occurred, which reminded us of one of their worst disciplinary sessions, finding $2 million the Chicago Blackhawks, not, you know, multiple picks for, you know, something like, We made you put on gym shorts and ride a bike. One seems more egregious than the other. Frank was talking about Batman's legacy.

I feel like a lot of that was on Twitter last night. It is crazy when you look back at the punishment that the organization, the punishment that they were given. Like $2 million to an organization probably valued it over $2 billion. Like, is that even a parking ticket? I understand that a lot of people lost their jaws, but make you wonder. It feeds the conspiracy again. Like, Gary, get out of your own way.

Well, more to what Frank was saying, too. Like, some people didn't know. And it happened for the Chicago Blackhawks. And again, like some kids came in and rode a bike in Arizona. They lost a first rounder. How many picks did the Blackhawks lose for covering up a sexual abuse scandal? Seems weird. Okay.

We'll move along. Speaking of Blackhawks, they're back in the money. They sold some tickets last night. And why wouldn't you? Connor Bardard's coming to town in the hours after. More than their $2 million fine they paid for the Kyle Beach scandal. Yeah, they've recouped that in season tickets with just the Connor Bedard News alone. That feels not right and very wrong.

And then, yeah, we had the Kevin Weeks gaff that you just played, Aaron Portsline, who we saw. was there. Dave Hodge had this to say as if the NHL ping pong lottery wasn't complicated enough. The TV gaff that took Columbus out of the number one running before Bill Daley announced it almost stole Chicago Badard's thunder. Embarrassing. Dave Hodge is good from the top rope, isn't it? Why did they pre-you know, they got to get the cards, right, and the bingo balls and all that stuff? But why do, then they go live? Why don't they pre-record that as like a...

Yeah, it's not a lot of it makes sense. minute of it. I never, it's, it's, you know what this is really is? I just feel bad for my boy, Weeksie.

This is boring and dense. That's what this is. You know what we need? Something fun, light and fluffy. Oh, by the way, the league's refusing to comment.

That's going to help this go away too. Do you remember, I think it was, I wasn't sure if it happened on the show or not, but I'm pretty sure it didn't because I don't remember doing it on the show. I remember sending it to friends.

There was someone, AI is getting very smart. It's almost got read the GM job already. It's making music. it's creating more AIs of itself it's going to overrule us very soon I'm sure Rhett be very worried Also though it can create some images

And create you know like anything you ask it to I saw a good one of Jeff Bezos as Vin Diesel on Yeah so and anything like that Yeah there was a series of Canadian hockey players As country music stars you can do whatever you want Canadian politicians as as rockers whatever Like you can ask AI to create all kinds of crazy shit Somebody I think it was a week and a half ago

Asked AI to create AI to create mascots for NFL teams. So I don't know if this ever got on the show. I think it was the day I left. So Rhett, just as a little sampling, here was what AI did for the NFL.

That was the Bill's fucking mascots. This is, like they're so bad, they're good. It's amazing. It's like that dancing Calgary Wrangler. So Red is, Red's a Bill's fan.

That's our first one. I'm a Chargers guy. We got a Packers fan here. I can't wait to get that tattoo. So this looks like some sort of, I don't, know. Is that a Japanese cartoon action hero? The Chargers? Okay. Sure. There was also, we got Wolverine here's a big Packers guy, right? So these are all just, you know, whatever AI thinks of

make. That won't scare the kids. No, that's worse than the Oilers links. And then I think we got Jacko's a big Steelers fan as well. So let's see what the Steelers got. Like, what the hell is going on here? That is terrible. I was going to put Dean's favorite team out, but he doesn't have an NFL team because he's the only person on earth that doesn't cheer for an NFL team. I don't. Do you have you figured out why that is? I like that one. There's the Cleveland Browns.

Cleveland Rocks. Yeah. It got to be tough. The Cowboys was especially good. The Dolphins were good. What else have we got in the NFL file? Let's dump them here. Yeah, the Cowboys one's perfect. It's just delusional America's team. It's Jera.

Jera's team right there. Anyway, so it was getting fun. I'd forgotten all about it. It was about 10 days ago. I've killed a lot of brain cells since then. Never mind all the other shit I've gone through. I do love that this is what we're using AI for. I mean, it can do anything.

If you want to start taking over the world, you could do that. But I'm more interested in what the mascots could look like. Yeah, like figuring out real world problems, things that could really affect our daily life in a positive way. Or we could have a guy in a fat shirt from Cleveland. Yeah. Brown's Jersey. Yeah, that's good. It's talented stuff.

So this thread was like 10 days ago. Yesterday, the NHL mascots dropped. So let's have some fun. Jack's made us a video. We're going to roll through the NHL team mascots presented by AI. Okay, that's clearly the ducks. No big deal there. Let's, oh, I've got some tunes too.

Very good. That actually probably might be the most accurate looking. Why is the flame a duck? And look at the sea. This Vegas guy fucks. Look at the horn of that guy. The king, I don't know. Here is that a magic wand or a stick?

Cracking? Cracking for sure. It does feel like Seattle there. They don't have the lettering thing figured out. They just know there's letters in certain spots. I think that should say Canucks. The Oilers one is special. Like that. I mean, use special many ways.

Sharks there, okay. Interesting. So this Pacific Division. Now we're into the Central. There's Colorado. I like a bear for the abs. That makes sense. Mountains, right?

All right. The blues. Does that look like a baseball head there? I don't know with that. The hawks don't have beaks like that at all think. Looks like he's got to take a shit. The Jets did not like this. They tweeted this.

They said no. No. That is a... Smash. Predator. It's a predator all right. Yeah, okay. I like the idea of him having a little make it talk.

How does the world come up with this stuff? It's AI. We don't know. It's learning it 100 million times faster than we do, and it's getting better every day. We ask them to do this in a week. They'll all be better. Crazy. So there's the Bruins bear.

That's an easy one. It feels like Leif's Lull. Dirk. Lighting, whatever. Don't care for that one. See what else we got. That definitely feels like Montreal. Look at the background there.

It seems to know. Panthers. It's a panther. Yeah. Not that interesting. I think three. That doesn't fit for the wheeled wing for me. It's going to get mugged.

Oh, Buffalo Red. Look at that. You'd go drink beer with that guy. The Hoff Brew House. I trust his pupils. Senators, what is that? What do you do with Ottawa? And the a lot of, look at the letters.

It's the atles. Do you guys know the kids they watch this, the five nights at Freddy's? No. Should you be worried? That's the opposite. of the flowers. Well, sorry.

It's a lot of. That's horrifying. That looks like an axe murderer. That's a racist. I don't know what's happening here. That's five nights at Freddy's. All these stuffed animals. There's Johnny Post-Callgary.

Look at that. Snowman penguin. What is five nights at Freddy's, Rand? Tell us more. It's like a comic. I don't know if it's a, I think it's a video game even. Okay.

Video game or a YouTube show. It's these stuffed animals and they're killing people. Oh, Jesus. Anyway, so there was some mascot fun for you. I'd lighten the mood after all that conspiracy draft lottery percentages, right? Yeah, it wasn't so much the draft lottery percentages as much as something else. What was it? Oh, yeah, there stuff there.

Let's get to last night, shall we? Boy, Mark Specter had it written interesting. Five one? Five one, just like you called it, Rhett. The problem he said for the Vegas Golden Knights is that they are heading to Edmonton with the Oilers leading the series 1-1. And it did feel like that. The way that they vacationed before game one and didn't show up

and still had a four-gold performance and throttled them in game two, this was supposed to be a big Oilers win. They wore the wrong jerseys or they got the outcome wrong. This was a big Vegas win last night in Edmonton, fellas. How much did we see and what do we make of it? Well, wasn't that that trend, the Dallas, Seattle, the Dallas Stars trend? We've been told you. Stars lost game three,

Eminton lost game three. Every single game, one, two, three, one, two, three. And Red said, exactly same result. Yesterday, five one final, going to be a blowout. Yeah, and you were right. Nailed it, Rhett. Just the wrong team. Wrong side.

Yeah. Pretty, uh, no, I don't think so. I hate the Oilers. There's no way I cheer for the Oilers. That is true. And you wouldn't find a way to get both sides of the bet. Here was my summary for last night's game that I threw on Twitter.

It was a representation of the AI mascots we'd seen earlier in the day. Just beautiful stuff. Not close. Skinner out, Campbell in. Braswae injured. Aidenhill in. Look good, Aden Hill. Confident Aiden Hill.

They're going to need him to be confident because that does not look like something that Brasua is going to bounce back from any time soon. And so, I don't know how much of this you saw, but when Vegas was getting throttled in game two, they made life very difficult at the end of the the game. They tried to, you know, set up game three. They were being pricks. It was like, how do the refs manage this moving forward? Last night in Edmonton, the Oilers just said, yeah, we're not going to try tonight and we'll be back for game four. Do you care? Because like, the Oilers are good enough to come and score eight in two nights. I get it. But they really didn't use last night's dead time to try to settle any scores or, you know, they just sort of threw their hands I don't have it tonight.

I don't. I mean, first of all, if you're actually asking if I do care, I don't. And I'm not surprised by it anyway. That's,

it's stunning to me that two of the highest skilled teams in the league can show up an absolutely fart burger themselves through a playoff hockey game.

Right? Like the Leafs and the Oilers just, whatever. I mean, I don't even criticize the stars as much because I don't consider them in the same echelon as talent. I think they've got really good teams. They've got a good

goaltender and stuff. But I just for two teams that are so highly skilled to show up with just no push, no desire, no drive at all, oh, happy to see it in Edmondson, happy to see it in Florida, but still stunned that it

can play out that way. So they're up to one. The Oilers are up to one. Vegas's are up to one on the Edmontons. It sets up a huge game four, I guess. It's stating the obvious here. Yeah, I just think that this whole playoff, we've seen if you want to get definitive

on a one-game performance, you can't do it. New Jersey was cooked after two games. Twice. Right? The Florida Panthers were down three to one to the Boston Bruins. All of this. This, everything, there's a lot of things that have been done and we can, and I put myself in this category, you, I know how I feel about this series now after watching a certain game. And it was a dominant period. And then it'll spin into the next game. So there's been a lot of blowouts too for the series that have been wild entertainment and lots of great outcomes and overtimes. There's been a lot of lopsided high scoring blowouts.

For the Oilers, if I'm Jay Woodcroft, I'm just trying to keep the drama level as low as possible. Don't guess, suspended. It's not a league where we have to beat people's heads in anymore. Run your bench in the third. Rest some of the top guys. We're not good tonight. It happens. Get ready for the next one. I'm kind of more in that camp, I think. Tonight's late. Let's look at it. As we've got a pair of gates, games, gates. Pearly gates. Sooner and later, right? Okay. Carolina Devils. There we are, five o'clock. Okay. We could have a series here that. be nice, hey? It's not going to be one if Carolina wins. If New Jersey wins, man, that'll be twice back to back rounds. They could theoretically come back from a two-oh-hole to be all

squarzy's. And thumped the canes in game three. Did? Got thumped in games one and two. There has yet to be a close game in this series. Cachetcoff, Freddie Anderson. Anderson got the hook. It was Ranta in round one. They've used three goalies. Amazing. Dallas, Seattle. That's your nightcap at 730. The Cracken looked phenomenal. They errated Dallas in game three. That was on the heels of a game where Dallas looked to have righted the ship pretty seriously in game two. Hey, don't worry, we got this.

That was just game one. Well, now they got to do a, hey, don't worry, we got this. That was only game three. Interesting. Seattle's got some of the... Any updates on Heiskenen? I haven't seen it yet. I would expect we'll have news.

Game time is not in concussion protocol. So to your point from yesterday, Reddell him up. I'm sure he'll be out there. Where she goes. Bad news to the Colorado Avalanche. Nachushkin mysteriously left. They've injuries all year. And now this.

Gabe Landiscaug, cartilage transplant in his right knee. Surgery will be performed in Chicago. 30-year-old forward will miss the entire 2020-24 season. That's after missing the entire 2022-23 season. So it'll be two full seasons coming off a Stanley Cup championship for Landiscaug. where he will not play a single game. This is not good news for the Aves captain. They missed him and others all throughout this year.

It's been a rough year for the Aves for injuries. This was supposed to be right by Christmas. Nope. Maybe by the playoffs. Nope. Not even next year. Mark Methought tweeted this morning that he had the same surgery and not, he was, I wasn't trying to say that this is it,

but he was not going, that rehab was so difficult. He was never able to get back to an NHL level of skating. And it was done. So he wishes Landiscag the best, but it does not... Not great. This is an extreme... This is an attempt to save your life post-gere. This, to me, is not a surgery that you're doing to go out and try and play.

$7 million is the cap hit. That'll be $7 million that they know today they'll be able to use for next year, because he's not coming back. That's true. He'll be full LTIAR of the full season, so you could spend that money. But again, it's like... It's not really... for a one-year deal.

Sorry, Gabe. Hey, if that's it, last game of his career, lifted the cup over his head. Worst ways to go. Oh, shit, he's got like five years left on that deal. I would think, I would think. If you go into that, because the cartilage replacement is,

it's a pretty new wave and cutting edge stuff. And I heard, I looked into it from my shoulder. It's months of nothing. Do not do anything. Maybe it's different knees and shun. I don't know. So he has got $7 million a year.

I'm going to pretend I didn't hear that. I think he wants to be done. If you're doing that, and I don't mean wants. I mean he's smart enough to look at it and go, if I'm going to have a life post-hockey, this is the type of surgery I have to have. And there's a huge probability that I won't play again.

Yeah. Six years left on his deal. He's going to miss all of next year. Five after that, it's 70 year. And he's just... Because he just signed that thing. Now, could it be also that this is drastic measures, but this is, if I'm coming back,

I need to try and do everything I can. I think so. Until it's over, it's not over. I don't know. Doesn't sound optimistic. I'm not, yeah, I know nothing about it, but it seems like a pretty big deal, but...

I don't have a lot of baseball news yesterday, but I did have this image, which I thought you'd enjoy, fellas. It was not a great night for somebody at a baseball game. Is this you? Yeah. Oh, dear, Kansas City. They were winning, at least.

You ever puked on a baseball field, Red? That's a nice stream. Kind of hydrate. Get that guy in IV, Brett. You know what? I give him credit. I criticize baseball players for being soft. That's not soft.

If you're out there and you're in that bad of shape, Get on you. That's, I, that is something. That guy is playing guilty. Well, there was a guy in the NBA last night.

Just, he had a burp puke. He had a mouthful of vomit and he was on the, so you're telling me you saw a burp puke video and we are this far into the show and you don't have it up yet. Yeah.

Fuck. It's happened to us. The video wasn't like puke. It wasn't great. I have the, I had the video for this one, but yeah, it was,

you know, he was kind of, if you didn't know what was happening, you may not know. It was not that obvious. This one, very, obvious.

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Kaki graduated yesterday, and she told the world, finally, unveiling her identity. I thought this is kind of neat. You have a, what, a son that's graduating this year? Is that right? I do, yeah. So this is, you're going to be doing all kinds of convocation. He's cocky. Let's see as she lets the world know.

And she keeps those on? This is good. So they're doing for your kids? Maybe it was a had to be there. Because they're loving it. They love it. Look at those shoes. Two years is cocky.

Now she's got to find a real job. Tough to be this popular. There's somewhere else. That was kind of cute thinking about. your guy's big feet right let's go and finally that was really good time well spent

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Yeah, the F-around and find out guy. Oh and one since that. Yeah. It's the dying seconds of the period. And Kane decides, oh, you're just going to hang on to the puck and wait for the, no, you're not. I'm going to come at you. Now, your thoughts here on this. Point seven seconds.

He definitely catches him up high with the. So it's F around and find out for sure. I like that. I think he tried to flip it in his face. I like that part. A little bit of rough stuff, it's fine. All right. How many games do we see where it's like the nod,

nod with two seconds left? Yeah, you hang out. He should be suspended. That's what we're saying. I get that guy suspended. He should be fine. This guy's a terrorist guy. What you really want to do is the league's out to get us.

Okay. Oh, yeah, they should, yeah. Who's supposed to? Well, it's Kane. Two games ago, he was doing belly shots there, crushing the guy along the ice, and now he's got the high stick and the jibs there. This is Kane. He's a disgrace.

It's a menace. Period number one, 20 minute mark of Vander Kane, two minutes for cross-checking. That's right. They would not score on the power play, but it did score enough to win. How about that? No power play goals for the others last night? Yes. Well, how many power plays did they have? I'm looking at three.

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Let's, we got some thing. What time is there? I want to talk to you about tacos. You mentioned earlier. I wrote it down. I want to get to this. Tacos.

Now, are you fussy when it comes to the tacos? Because I think when you go, when, Here we are in Canada. I think of tacos, the crispy round, you know, the... Yeah, you're thinking of the faux to hard or soft? It's like the hard, hard taco shell, meat in the bottom, then some lettuce, tomatoes, that sort of thing.

That's probably not what traditional taco people would say is a taco. So that's my question. Are you, can you get down with the hard shell corporate taco? Love them all. Or do you need to go... I can do it all. I can do taco salad. I can do taco bar.

I can do soft tacos, hard tacos, fish tacos, pork tacos. Canitas barbacoa. Let's go. All the above. Where are you? All the above. Taco in a bag.

Oh. Explain for those who don't know. I love the taco in a bag, especially late at night. My kids. Especially late at night. Love it. They love it. Yeah.

Explain. What's not to love? Here's what I'll do. I don't want to, no free plugs, of course, but, and because I am desperately poor, um, Dolarama, grab the little bags of Doritos. How many people you got? You got four people, five people, get four bags, five bags, take them home. And they, then you just dump all whatever you want on your taco, taco meat, sour cream, salsa, green salt, whatever, lettuce, tomato, whatever you, you put it into the bag and then you eating it out of the bag.

it's a huge hit at my house I might be doing that tonight actually you gotta scratch those chips up though right that's right give him a little scrunch scruncheroo little cheese in there oh I would crush that right now I know you would I know you delicious delicious and now you because you're a fancy pants

I'm a fancy pants I don't think I've tried I think I'd love it but just the taco thing I like the authentic stuff, but my wife loves the hard ones. And I feel like, I feel like we're faking a bit on those. So I'm always like, just get some soft ones too. Can we grab that? Grab that clip.

That'd be great if we could just isolate that and grab that for further use. Thanks, Jack. Kids always make the biggest mess with the hard one. Hey, whatever. It just crumbles and it's everywhere. And I'm like, why are we insistent? There's a better way, the real way. it wraps up and you eat it and it doesn't crumble all over the place.

Now what happens if you cross over into the burrito? Now, to me, that's just a different wrapping system, but technically. And a bigger one as well. The tacos are like the small. But Archie, are you not putting rice and beans in a burrito? It's not necessarily the way you go with the taco. Correct. Yep.

They're different. You know, I'm going to say this. Forkingly. I'm kind of out on the burrito. I love the burrito. It's massive in filling. you need one and you're done. Tacos, they're little

and you can have a bunch of them and they're also great, but a burrito's like big, I'm going to go into a food coma after. I love the thing. I feel like the burrito is too much. Pinder attacks breakfast burritos. Love for you.

It's all right. Breakfast burt is a good thing. Small. They're not as big too. Yeah. See, it's smaller. Bacon. Ooh, the bacon.

What about that? Mac and cheese. Look at that. You know what, though? It's too much. work to fold your your bacon like that to get it all stuck together. That feels like an art project

or you're showing off? Yeah. I can tell you this. Tacos, when you have people over, a party, huge hit. Huge hit. And easy. You don't have to time it out. It's just

kind of sitting there simmering hot, ready to go when your friends or kids, whoever's over, they're hungry. Go grab a taco. Yeah. And Make yourself a taco in a bag. Would you like taco salad? You can do as you please.

That's true. And make it yourself. We're not going to be serving you. Oh, what are you like on yours? What do you like on yours? No, no. Go do it. Have it the way you like it.

Make it yourself. You're lazy prayer. Here's your alpinos. Here's your diced tomatoes. Here's your lettuce. Get out of it. Let's go. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, it's not too spicy, though. Okay, then go make it yourself. Put some more sour cream on your whip. Delicious. No. What is that? That's your breakfast burrito.

Scramby eggs, some sassage and an eggo. Yeh. Ew. No? Not a. Yeah. This weekend is Mother's Day. We're going to throw it out there one more time.

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Hey, so lab-grown, eh? What's it? Yes, lab grown diamonds. It's the way to do things now. It's engagement season. I know Justin was like, well, spring is when they do that. Mother's Day, you got to do. The engagement thing, I mean, put it off for a little while.

Are you really sure? Like, I don't know. Seems hasty by a Jew. Hey, I mean, if you do, it could definitely go Venova. But for sure, with Mother's Day, maybe it's not a ring. It's not just rings. It's all kinds of jewelry. There's earrings and bracelets and all kinds of stuff at Vena Nova.

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Do you need to get a card if you get something at Viena Nova? Yes. There's always a card. If you don't get a card, oh, in my house, the card is as important as anything. My kid yesterday got a shit because he didn't open his card first before he opened his birthday prison. I'm like, really? This is the line in the sand.

Like, you're actually going to make a point to this? What did we do for the Big Ten? Oh. Nothing. I thought you were getting someone jumping out. We did nothing. Well, he likes burgers, so he got burgers. No, I think I didn't.

I had to take one of the kids to a hockey game, and I think the shoveler took him to a movie, just the two of them. Brett, it's May. When is it going to be enough with you and your kid in hockey? You're just... I don't think it ends. It really doesn't end, and I am a firm believer in multis.

sport discipline. Doesn't seem to be going over well. Oh, that's not true. We got soccer. It scored four the other day. Yeah, you mentioned that. We got football, a couple touchdowns on the weekend. Major Tuddies.

What movie did they go see? And there's another thing I wanted to talk about. Are we doing movies? When's the last time you've been to a theater? I'd been to a theater in years, and I went to the Mario movie with my kids and another kid and some other dads. It was a blast.

Yeah. But like pre that, that's pre-pandemic. You know what the problem with the movie theater is? There's no effing good movies. I was going to say, I feel like everything. Well, it's not that it's a remake. I just feel like it's, they're putting shit online now. I'm going to go watch Guardians of the Galaxy again and paint like a love.

It's one of my, it's great, but it's just a repeat. No more. No new ideas. Something original. Something good. And not too artsy either. Yes. Just see Top Gun again.

Just go and see Top Gun and not one more time. I did see Top Gun. That's a lot. That's the two I've seen. I'm a big fan of what's her name? Jennifer Connolly. Connolly. Yeah.

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Robert De Niro just had a kid What? Bob De Niro Just had his seventh Child He 79 years old 79

What else you're gonna do? You're 79 I have more questions for the mom than the dad this point. Do you ever think about it? Do you ever think about it? How many years you got left? You know?

If we have as many as De Niro's got, we're in great shape. Like, I just wouldn't have guessed you'd still be fire in field goals at 79, you know? I figured at some point, it's like, no, that's just, it's out of my repertoire now. Of all the things I do in life, you know, that's it. Huh? I don't really think about it all that much at all.

No, I'm, no. You're not at that point in your life? Is he even married? What the hell? He's DeForest twice has a lady friend, apparently. Six other kids. He was on, he did an interview. He said, oh, so you have six kids.

Actually, I have seven. I just had my seventh. Holy shy. Whoa. So good, good on him, you know, I guess. He got lots of dough. What are we doing here? Yeah.

Is that what you want to be doing when you're 79? But like, oh, yeah, we're up at three again. We got to change. I don't think that he's living the same as the three of us, right? At the same time, that maybe someone. What's the payoff here for him? Or does he just not care?

Hot girlfriend at third of age wants to get that. What's the downside? It's a child. What the hell? I got six and seven is going to just, just derail me and take my life down to the shitter. Well, six is like 30 now. Yeah.

I feel like probably the six are kind of out and about and living on their own by now. All of a sudden, you got a baby living in the house with you. I'm still more impressive. Well, you're just like a baby. You can nap with them and it's great. More kind of fast. Same schedules. Both more in diapers at the same time here soon.

Either way, good for him, right? I guess. I mean, Bobby De Niro. That's good. Maybe it's a test tube baby and this is who cares. I don't know why. So what are you saying? Bob can't get it up.

Is that what you're saying? We'd love to say, hey, nice work on still fucking Bobby, but we don't even know if that's the case. Hope it's his now. There you go. Oh, boy. Gotta go. See a lot of questions.

Bob. Betway bets. We didn't do your bets. Betway bets. There we go. Betway. Get the Betway app on your phone. Bet the responsible way with Betway.

Dallas. Seattle. I'm taking the over. I believe all of the games have been over the six goal mark. So I'm going over five and a half and a point for rupee hints. Rupe plus 150. I like that. I like that.

The other, it's a little Carolina, New Jersey bet. Sebastian Aho and Jack Hughes points. Here again, one plus point for Ajo and Hughes. also plus money, plus 105, love these bets of the day. Wasn't that last game's combatants? That's right. Did we get into a tussle? Sebastian Aho and Jack Hughes were shooting the old dukes.

Kind of, yeah. This kind of looked like more we described it as what grappling. You know what it was? They were feisty. Jiu-jitsu. Jiu-jitsu. There you go. Deep.

I will roll with, let's keep Jack Hughes hot. It's going to be good for the series. going to be good for entertainment. First goal of the game, plus seven hunt. Woo, Jackie Boy, let's go. Big game hunting. And Dougie Hamilton, one assist. That doesn't seem crazy, does it?

No. Dougie? No. Dougie's good. The baggage handler's there, and he's feeling good. He's good for an Apple, plus 135. There you go.

That way, that's the day. Get the Betway app. Get it on your phone. Play along. B-19, Ontario. Come on now. Smart not. Show tomorrow.

Working on it. Well, working on a few things. Some things might fall into our lap. We don't know. Either way, we should do it. Well, what are you going to have? It's high drama? And I want to, oh, oh, the other things, three guests.

That's what I was, there's maybe stuff. Sorry, okay. I apologize. I thought about something else. I don't want to mention the guy's name and then give him the old heave hoke. And it's like, oh, yeah, that's, uh, all the way they kind of mention it. Either way, we're probably going to have somebody on the show tomorrow. Maybe talk about the Leafs, maybe talk about Team Canada.

Maybe talk about the flames. We just don't know. A lot there. It's a lot there. Greg Conner coming on tomorrow Not true What's up for the rest of your day There taco in a bag

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