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Oh, hello. We are rolling here on the 2nd, July, which is, I believe, a Wednesday. When these, you know, throws your whole week, right? Oh, holiday, midweek. Tuesday or a Thursday or a Wednesday. It's a real challenge, but we're up for it. Rabbit, rabbit. Shit. This show, a presentation of Bet365, whatever your bed is. It's never ordinary at Bet365. Downloads the app. Get into the game. Official partner of the Stanley Cup playoffs must be.

19 or older and hey you know what as they're all here we may as well do a super chat if so being you put a comment into the YouTube chat with some money we'll take the money give it to the youth centers of Calgary and then put your comment on the show I can only imagine

people would be just frothing to get some opinions out after a long time I mean you start overhauling the team like Craig Conner has done over the last three days it's the buzz of the town that's right the hockey world really that's why shows like ours exist to keep people up to date So much happens. I might have been away.

I was on a boat. I was flying. I was a long weekend. Give me up to speed, fellas. What happened? I like to think, you know, I've been doing this a long time. I've been a hockey fan my whole life. Kind of know who a lot of the players are in the league.

Okay. There were easily, definitely more people were signed to NHL contracts yesterday that I didn't know who they were than guys that I did. It's like Nick Seesek has signed it. Yeah, he's not a... Nick's. Okay. What the fuck? I was just looking at Jack, your team, the old, the penguinos.

They'd made some signings today. It's like, well, I... I've heard of two of these guys. Anthony Matha. He's heard of him. He has signed. Phil Kemp. Phil Kessel?

No. John Kemp? Nope. A lot of kids. A lot of kids. Ray hops. Rafael Harvey Pinnocker. RHP, former fab.

It was the worst, as far as entertainment value, the worst July 1 ever. There were 10 players that got over 3.5 million a year. That's it. And there's some bad ones that had no business being over 3 and a half a year. Yeah. And wasn't it, weren't they saying? I think Dothia said they were into the billions of,

1.2 billion last year and like half that this year. Yeah. So hey, you're at the mercy of who's. contract comes due. That doesn't include stuff that was a lot of guys signed. We saw Bradmarshand and Sam Bennett and Marner. Can't change things.

Ratan was a free agent, Crossers. Yeah, they all signed before July 1st hit. So I'm sure the networks will rethink. Shasturkin was a free agent. There was, everyone, they had the best pre-hagent list ever a year ago. Then they all signed. Whether or not they want to keep doing these July 1 shows,

because it was all. on deck i had it on in the house it was watching me who they got they got Cheryl pounder is out and they got carlo coliacovo and c pound in the house man it was you know of course noodles was there being noodles god love it but there's nothing talk about not a lot eh uh no who was it jack did you who was the biggest name or what was the biggest it was well uh Vladimir gavrakov close yes Vladislav whatever his fucking name yeah yeah that guy. He was a blue jacket.

Then I thought he was going to be an oiler, but he was a king. And now he's a race. So that's a big. That's, he was good for the Kings. The Gavikov sweepstakes take July 1. Remember he came over in the deal with Corpusallo and then they re-uped him immediately to a two-year deal.

And you wanted to go to New York. Sure. Had better offers. Went to New York. Got the 49 million bucks. And if Brock Besser would have signed with Vancouver prior to yesterday, that have been even less dough because he ends up staying. Seven times seven in a court.

Interesting. And maybe they up their offer once they went to July 1 and everyone said no to them. Maybe. But once a guy gets past that midnight and is like, okay, I've been respected properly. After midnight. Very rare to see the turnaround the next day to sign with the team that you just left. We'll get into it from a cloud law. Our opening statements, as always from a cloud law,

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Calgary, baby. Yeah, they're my favorite. You pop in yesterday, have some burgers? No. Oh, they're, Chris, there's, it was July 1 day. Next week. Oh, yeah. I thought.

Usually people, they'll take that Canada off. You get special access to. Yeah. So do we feel, because a little inside base. ball year we were kind of being not roasted but there was some criticism coming our way from within the network oh for not doing july one for not doing we're the one of the only one no not what you speak young dino yeah we were one of the only shows not to do ones are you guys really not gonna say no i'm not really going to do anything so no if they what is miss marner coming here sure we'll do a

show then yeah if they do we'll go live if there's something mahuso but i don't know that uh on July 1 when people are doing stuff, if they're out in a boot, are they going to be streaming old booms, the old boom cat to get the down low. Yeah, but you could add some better insight scoops. Yeah,

that's what Drager was saying last week. Drake's coming up a little bit as well. Because it was a nothing burger across the league, and certainly for the flames, we can walk you through it. Please do. I don't know that I'm up to date. well do you remember Joel Hanley old force rep in your jersey with style the second half of the year

he's back uh just ahead of the opening and free case so that doesn't even really count he was i mean it's new since last show but yeah you're right it's not a yeah he's still it was a contract renewal tonight before yeah um and then the uh 1.75 which is jake bean money i like him more than jake bean i'm okay than i can live with that two years two years for the 34 year old 1.75 and to be fair he was one of your best four defensemen last year. That's not a lot of money to spend on a guy like that. And if you can't improve on a guy like that, then Jake Bean or Brain Paul's going to have to be one of your top four defense.

That's not the measurement I would recommend using whether or not he was one of your best. You've given him number six money, basically. Can you improve? Right? It's that, that, we talked about the same thing with Vladar, where we can get in now. Well, can you improve? Can you get better?

They don't bring Vladar back. He's a flyer. I would think that's just him going to try and be a number one. He wants more opportunity and he got a lot more money. I think the flames of the chance to match and said, now we're good. And the thing is, too, I don't recommend.

If you get a chance to go to Philly and be a goaltender there. Right. The road is paid for goal. It's always, only good things happen for goalies in Philadelphia. See, what were the numbers in Philly? Oh, just awful goaltending. Like, no, no.

How much did he get in Philly? I meant, sorry. 3.35? 3.3. See, and with the caps, space, the flames to have in the tandem, I was like, if Wolf can them get along? But if he wants to go be a number one, he can't stay. Yeah, and if you want to take a younger guy and try to groom him

that's got more sealing than Vladar, I get that too, and that's kind of the path that they've taken. They got a goalie yesterday. Yeah, they signed two guys that didn't play in the NHL last year. So all the best players in the United. That's right. Well, one of the best in the DEL, whatever league that is. Yeah.

The German? Deutsche. When you can take. and manheim by storm hey matt stage and says watch you had a great time to uh to y c you know me uh ibin prosvett off yep i heard rumblings yeah who actually i believe shut out the flames once i remember uh at the time this rumor was floated like two months ago he was very good against them two years ago in colorado if i mean we're being a little cheek he's a guy he's a guy he becomes the highest paid flames net minored a million dollars we went through it was

Monday because you weren't here I listed off the UFA class of goaltenders to Ryan. We just had the one shot to get his visual Okay. The pender meter of excitement for the UFA class. As good as it got was a

for Jake Allen. The rest were kind of And honestly if you had Vladar at the same number as last year, that's fine. There's not a lot of starts for them. Why do you care if you pay to me? even more.

Well, because at some point, are you worried about cap space this year? No, but I honestly don't, I don't mind if they get a backup of socks and they finish bottom and pick high. But that's a different. Like, if you want to stay right in the middle, go give Lidar more money than he deserves.

That's, that, there was a lot of middle of the roster players yesterday. I was quite happy to the flames not take part. So do you think that was part of the strategy? No, I think they had a number and they said this is what we value. I just made in,

in general for the flames, because they sign Nick C-Sex, who's a defenseman. That's an HL player, yeah. HL guy, Presvetov will battle Cooley and probably win the backup job. Whoever wins it gets to be the backup? Whoever plays that.

The loser goes over waivers and goes to that. What's that? That guy's going to get the back. Yeah, I should probably take it back. You know what? I take it back. It's a nob of a competition. Because everyone was drooling over Cooley.

Yeah, until he was healthy scratching the playoffs. It was awful the second half of the year. Oh, so don't get too high or too low on these voodoo goal. 100%. What's his first name? Devin? Cooley or Logan. No, Logan's a forward. Right. Devin Cooley. We'll take it.

Hey, Devin. Sorry, but. I didn't mean to assume that just because they signed this guy and that he's good. Have a good camp and win it, man. Yeah. It's healthy. Sorry, pal. I take it back. But there was no we talked to Conway. We're going

big game. Yeah, we know, free agency. We're going to go after some guys. Maybe they did, but they landed none of them. They re-signed their own 34-year-old depth defenseman. an AHL guy in theory and a backup or a guy fighting for the backup job. They didn't. If you were on team tank, you're very happy today. Sure, yeah.

They've kept cap space. They've not signed anybody. They weren't. There was no, hey, man, Japani could have him for three and a, don't need more wingers. No, don't need more wingers. Peltier is an interesting one, but again, I just don't see him cracking the top nine. Like, whose jobs he's taking? And then it's like, is he going to be a better Ryan Longberg or Adam Klavka?

They kind of built that identity for the fourth line. So you can bring him back to be your 13th forward. But he's going to go somewhere he's going to get opportunity. And at the end of the day, it was with Tampa, a team that's top heavy with paying the big stars and need some young players that can pop into maybe a third line role. That's a great spot for Peltje and they got him on low money. That might be the best deal of the day yesterday.

I don't know. There's no risk. If it goes poorly, you've got a great H.L player. And it's three years. If he shows any progress, you got three years of a guy that, theoretically could be a third line. I mean, the best signing would be hopefully someone that comes in and lights it up for you. Oh, yeah.

I just mean in terms of like what you look at all these deals yesterday is like, what's the worst case in error? And a lot of them are really painful. Like, Jesus. If this guy doesn't age well or, you know, Cody C, C, C, 18 million bucks. He looked like at seven last year. The worst case on Pell-Jays, he's in your American League team for three years and that's fine. Oh, I know. Yeah.

And the reason you would bring him back here is just for vibes. Well, because people are familiar with them. Right. Some other Peltier type guys out there. We would not be doing backflips because they brought Peltje back. And I think the fan base is having a tough time with Connie coming in saying, we're going to go big game hunting and then also saying, come on in young kids, take a job, we've got to trust the process.

But his point is this. If you get a chance to talk to a difference-making franchise core piece, you have to have that conversation. But they weren't going to blow their brains out with edge of the roster players, which is what much of yesterday was. Don't overpay. And they already have a decent middle of the roster. They just not at the top.

To me, it was, it was unexciting, but it had to be. Yes. What was expected, wasn't it? Yeah, I think so. But what pipe dream are we like, do you have a pipe that you smoke? No, listen. That we were on the list of any high. And guys, like, what are we talking about?

Of course not. Exactly. All I'm saying is Conroy sat here and said, yeah, we're going to, we're going to go. We're going to go hunting for, we're going to put some money out. It's like, okay. And some guys like money. If they get overpaid or if they get an offer that's maybe a little, better than they would somewhere else.

That's part of doing the job too. You can't go into fridge and not have the conversation. If Nikolai Eelers is available, you've got to say hi. You don't expect that he's going to come here, but doing the job is checking in. I think what happened yesterday is exactly what Craig Connor expected. I think the most interesting development around the flames is what we kind of heard late last week was that Rasmus Anderson approached to some degree about the, you know, how how hungry or how willing would he be to sign an extension in a sign and trade scenario with the

LA Kings and he said not so much. And the belief is that maybe that torpedo to deal between the flames and the King's. That was contingent on the extension. And we have to believe that that was. We'll talk to drags coming up. And I get that. You're you can trade me. I have limited trade protection and maybe the Kings were on that list or maybe they weren't. So you can trade me. But I, I want a little time if I'm going to decide where my next eight years are going to be. That's what UFA is about. I'm a year away from that. Why do you have to,

I got in an argument with an alumni yesterday about this. My concern in today's world and my big take on everything, but nobody probably will care about is that there's very much NBA vibes to me. This is, I keep saying it just sounds like base. It feels like baseball is coming where the have-nots are going to feed the halves, and it's going to just continue and continue. the odd time you're going to have a Kansas City team,

go on a run and maybe have a chance at a championship. Players nowadays seem like they're controlling even without the no trade. So no trade clauses might as well go out the door because they do have a lot of control over what's happening. And on one hand, you're like, well, they should. It's their lives. On the other hand, what, why did Conroy? So here's my thought, if you're going to do a sign of trade,

okay, what do you want, Rasmus? Kenny, is this good, this money good? Yeah, that money. We'll pay him that money. Okay, let's sign that, Rasmus. You got your contract? Now we trade your ass. Yeah, but he's not getting, he's getting no moves.

Like, that's just, he's not signing a maximum deal. He's got a 16, no move in L.A. wouldn't have been on it. The point, I'm just getting it. I understand how it works. I'm saying, why do the teams have to cater so much to this stuff? Like, why did Conroe or why, what right does Anderson have to know that? No, you're signing the contract with us. Like, Marner's, like, Marner's, like,

With who? Vegas. Yeah. Well, first he signed with Toronto. That's my point, though. He didn't sign with Vegas. He's signed with Toronto. So you're signing the contract with me.

And this is different a little bit, but not really. Like if you're signing a contract with the flames and then getting traded, sign the contract. Do you have a no trade list? Yes. Is L.A. on it? No. Fuck you. You're going to L.A.

He's, he's got to get a full no move. But this. I mean, you could say that's what's wrong with the league, but that's just the market. he's in. Now they could have traded him to the, assuming he's not on his no trade list. Yeah. They could trade him to L.A. Right. And the thought was Columbus and Ottawa were interested to and there might have been teams that were on the no trip. Whether if the kings aren't on his list, you can trade him to L.A. But what L.A. was prepared to pay for him for one year, as opposed to one year plus the extension, is a different return.

Totally. Understand. I still go back to what I'm saying is that if Rasmus wants nine times eight. And you could give it to him before free agency day and before the change to the CBA. Yep. And not have L.A. on his no trade. Why do I have to make him aware if I'm going to trade him to L.A.? He's not signed the 9 times it without a full no move. That's why. Okay.

And that's just the market he's got because he's got the leverage. And we'll ask drags about that. But you know what we used to be able to do that really solved all these problems? Is you would attach a conditional first to a trade that says if he resigns, here's the other first. If he doesn't, here's the deal. For some reason, the NHL took that away. And it's challenging because when you see the Noah Hanifin return, you're like, well, shit. Yeah, your handoffering.

He signed for another eight years. He said he wasn't sure at the time. Tampa was his preferred team, whatever. But I don't know why they got rid of that conditional pick because it really solved all this problem, didn't it? Yes, that would be. If he resigns, here's an extra compensatory pick. Now, I imagine the agents probably said, ooh, I don't know. That's going to hurt the players leverage, a tiny, you know.

they've got iota but it's it's that was what you used to do and now you do it's like oh if they win the cup will give you this second round that but screw that what really matters for the vegas goldenites is that they got hanof in for nine years wow and what it's going to do it's a huge difference what it's going to do if it doesn't change poor gonroy suffering through it with all the defensemen he's going to lose for less than top fucking dollar or return i think well i mean look he's he could change i know but what they're going to do is they're going to trade they were doing what you said and trade him a year early where you're like, well, you get them for two years and that's up you to resign them, right?

You're less, you're less. Which was the option they had last year. Yeah, the catch isn't going to be. Well, is you going to resign with us? Well, you got him for two years. Like, you're just going to move guys earlier. Yeah. Well, and that's, we were yelling at screaming about trading him this year.

No one's talking about an extension and trade deadline. You're not even allowed to extend a guy. He's now a distraction. Agreed. I was going to say it was a week ago, less than, where Conroy said, no, he's not going to be a distraction. He's going to come in. Well, that was about 48 hours.

Now it's absolutely a distraction. And maybe not as much so for them, but it's a distraction in that room. It's going to be the biggest talking point in the market for the next five months. And maybe they can put up the walls and they don't hear the media chatter and all that. The player nowadays, though, too, is that, oh, I want all this and all that, but don't question any of this. Right? Like, I don't like being stressed out about being out. Well, my family member said, somebody said this on this show and someone wrote that and this guy said this on socials.

Can't I have it both. I just know for me, I it was because then it was well, he'd go to Vegas. Well, Rassos would say so all it was that that I had over the last three or four days like so uh, rassas has really backed him into a corner. Hey. So what's what is it with Vegas is Vegas want to I don't know what the scenario is. I don't know what the conversations are. Our next guy is going to have a little more, uh, intel and all this. He's our insider.

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it was more of the lead up, obviously, right? Like there was some late night, early morning type of nonsense going on around the national hockey league. And, you know, I've reached a point age in my career.

And I could say this now as we celebrated the retirement of Bob McKenzie to conclude our coverage yesterday. But I'm like, you know, 2 o'clock in the morning, whatever night it was, Sunday, I don't know. And I'm like, what am I doing here? Like, ooh, I got to get that tweet out because I got to update this. I mean, but that's that's the appetite for the National Oculeg fan, I suppose. But yeah, I mean, yesterday was, it had its bizariness, right? I mean, you know, legitimately there was.

the threat of offer sheets. There was the threat of offer sheets. And anytime you get that, now you've got my interest because it doesn't happen very often. Yeah, I know it happened with Edmonton and the St. Louis Blues. But Keondry Miller is not in Carolina

without the threat of an offer sheet. That's just the reality of the situation. And Bob Byram, keep an eye on that one with the Buffalo Sabres because I can assure you that Darren Farris is working on that possibility. And Ferris is also the agent for Broberg, right, who ended up with the offer sheet in St. Louis.

So not his first rodeo, and it's a pressure mechanism. That's what it was yesterday. You know, the hurricanes basically telling New York Rangers, look, we'll happily make a trade with you, but we're going to offer sheet this guy. So which way do you want it to go? Did you hear the same on Bouchard? I'd heard that there was a team preparing one for Bouchard.

and that's what got the oilers to get that done across the line. Could have been Carolina, too. You know, they were, they're ready to step in one. There's no doubt about that. And, you know, that speaks to Tom Dunden, the owner of the Carolina Hurricanes and, you know, just his appetite to improve his team. But, you know, everybody kind of frowns that.

We don't, you know, collectively as analysts or media anymore, because it's fun to talk about it. But I think generally speaking, most managers, we go, well, I got to be careful with that stuff. Because if it happens, if I do it to him, somebody's going to do it to me. Well, that's fine. It's a mechanism inside the collective bargaining agreement.

You can use it as a tool. And you can use the threat of the offer sheet as a tool. And yeah, I think that's exactly what Bouchard got done so quickly. But I think that's a fair deal for the oil. I do. You know, four years, Bouchard, if he plays as well as they need him to play, not sporadically, more often than not, then it's a heck of a deal.

And he'll cash in again after that four-year extension expires. But, yeah, Kandre Miller Falls was an interesting story to follow. The Calgary Flames definitely were in on Kandre Miller, definitely in on him. Now, when Carolina threatened the offer sheet, then Chris Derry and the New York Rangers had to go, okay, hold on a minute here. We have to focus on making this deal with the Carolina Hurricanes.

And I have an idea. I'm not going to share who the players might have been involved. That would go back the other way. I don't think that's fair to them because it didn't happen. But going into the day, when that day started, I had a good sense. Candre Miller was going to join the Calgary Flames. That's the way it felt.

And then obviously went a different direction. So he's 25. He's a left shot D. There's another similar piece that you mentioned, Bowen Byram. asking, it seems like reading the tea leaves. The challenge here is that he had an incredible run with Colorado in the playoffs in 2022. And he's been very mediocre since and wants more opportunity,

wants a big salary, and the Sabres won a lot for him. So what the hell are you buying if you're going to add Bowen buyer? Well, he thinks he's a number one defenseman. You know, he's a top pairing guy. He's a power play guy. And I think that's why most teams have explored the interest in Bo Byron. Like L.A. really liked the idea of Bob Byron. They did because, you know, there are many nights where the L.A. Kings are rolling out a five-forward power play. Drew Dowdy can't do everything,

right? So they look at him as helping that cause. And this is where, again, and I, you know, he's a restricted free agent. He's not a, he's not an unrestricted free agent. But Darren Farris is the agent here. You know, he doesn't mind spin in the Ferris will. And he does it with a lot of his guys and and he's looking at he's all right well you know byram's two years away from unrestricted free agency he has arbitration rights if he goes to arb and you have them for one more year i'm sure the message to kevin adams is you lose you lose your leverage because nobody is going to trade for bow byram with one year left because he is going to walk into free agency no different than Mitch bernard just did you know sam bennett is the outlier here because he's

stayed with the Florida Panthers again a client of Darren Ferris so right now it sure feels like all of the pressure is on Kevin Adams to get the best deal that he can and you know I reported on it yesterday and I'm not convinced that the threat is gone of an offer sheet on bull byram Calgary for sure is interested in him you know mentioned L.A you know Vegas fellas they still might not be done you know I heard you as we're coming in the segment talking about Rasmus Anderson Yeah, and I agree with everything you said. Sure, he's got one year left. I can appreciate Craig Conroy and management of the flames wanting to be patient and saying, yeah, he'll be fine.

You know, he can come to camp. We'll start the season and see if the offers get better. They had phenomenal offers. Phenomenal for Rasman Sanderson. One from L.A. that would blow your socks off. Not players, but anyway, a hell of an offer. And he wouldn't go. He wouldn't go.

He wouldn't extend. So where are the offers for him as a rental? Not as good as they were. And maybe. But, you know, again, it's, I can appreciate in that market that guys are, and I'm not saying you guys are critical of the position that Rasmus Anderson is, is, is in right now. But he negotiated and earned his contract. And with that contract comes the right of saying no. No.

And I look, I mean, I think Ottawa had a package ready. Columbus had a package ready. L.A. had a package ready. Vegas made an offer that they thought was fair. The flames didn't think it was fair, obviously, or he'd be there because, as you guys talked about, that appears to be where he wants to go. But this is a spicy one. And it probably isn't going to get less spicy.

Unless he relents and says, okay, I'll go. but unless it's a perfect scenario, he's not going because he's not going to extend with any of the teams we've talked about. Doesn't not make, I don't know, maybe I'm just grumpy because I had too much fun on Canada today, but it just feels like,

you want players to have say and the right to go and yes, he earned the contract. I think he's been way underpaid for what he offers. Yeah. But they really, and I guess there's a change. You said it with Adams and Buffalo. better move them now.

And is that just a learning curve, maybe almost an overplay on Conroyce, where you can't go to this. Because once you get to that last year, it's not just, it's not a, you don't get as much for the rental if teams want to resign them. So you've got to move them earlier

and recognize that you can't get the deal done. Or is this just, or does this just scream, there's going to be, I keep saying it, because I believe it. It's baseball. And the haves are going to be in the situation to keep collecting the higher end players and the better players.

And they have nots are going to group them into that. And yes, you might have a stab while your team's growing and you maybe go on a run. But at some point, all these hiring like Florida's and those, I don't know, those teams are going to keep taking it. Like how is L.A. not a situation where Rasmus Anderson wants to go play? what the FRA talking about? I don't, well, other than the taxes. What about just his only chance of free agency in his whole career?

What's that? It's his only chance of free agency his whole career. Is it not reasonable to say that I just want to see what's out there? Don't ask me to commit to a place I've never lived on site unseen. Like I've basically been there one day at a time

my whole life. Agreed. Agreed. And but it's fine to do that. And I'll use the Mitch Marner experience different because, you know, he's a pending unrestricted. free agent.

But both sides in Toronto decided before the start of the year that the focus had to be on hockey, it wasn't going to be on a contract. That didn't mean that Bradshaw Living couldn't go to Mariner and his camp, Ferris, and have a conversation about an extension at varying points of the year. And undoubtedly, that happened. But that takes some intestinal fortitude as a player, right? So now you do have to focus on being as good as you can be. and he was in the regular season, right?

And then things didn't go great for him, for the Toronto Maple Leafs in generally, wasn't alone in the criticism that they deserved in the playoffs, but he stuck to it, man. He stuck to it for a year. And that's what Anderson's going to have to look forward to. And, you know, sure, I mean, there's been lots of speculation around the Vegas Golden Knights

and the shenanigans and all that. I don't, I don't buy it. I don't. And I want to remind people that, McCremant and the Golden Knights tried to acquire Mitch Minor, no fewer than twice, actually I think three times, including at the trade deadline where there was a three-way trade, as we recall, right, Toronto, Carolina, Vegas.

He waved to go to Vegas. He would not waive to go to Carolina. So the interest from the Vegas Golden Knights and Mitch Minor is pretty obvious. So why are we talking about everything that went on behind the scenes? and this is illegal and this and all of that stuff. You know, Minor stuck it out. So, you know, is Rasmus Anderson going to be able to deal with that? You know, you know, you guys talked about it.

Whether it's only a distraction if he allows it to become a distraction. But he's not getting managed to media. He's going to get asked about it through training camp. And not only in Calgary, every city that the flames visit, he's going to get asked about. about it he's going to certainly in the second half of the season and and maybe that becomes a distraction it doesn't if his game remains solid and he doesn't allow it to be but i still feel like if calgary can make the bo-byron deal somehow some way then just make a deal for anderson and vegas and move on yeah i it's kind of we talked about this last week it's the he's not

lived in Vegas either so all the so yeah that's true we don't yeah service away. With the LA, like obviously that feels like it was contingent on him signing an extension. Yeah. Of all is, as opposed to his no trade because he has what, 17, 16, so it's a small no trade. It is. Or no move. Were these other deals, were they, did they all fall into the signing an extension contingency?

Or was it no trade? Because it's what it is here, and Rhett was talking about it. I think a lot of the fans feel like. This is, again, Conroy and the flames are getting, they're getting the run around by the players. The players have so much sway. And I get it. If you're asking him,

hey, would you sign an extension with Team X? And he says, no, that's a step further. That's, you're now asking, it's a great deal for us. We'd get a lot more in return. Yeah. I don't give a shit what you get in return at the end of the day. If I'm Raspus Anderson, that's great for you.

But I, eight years, the next nine years of my life potentially. Sure. So I get it. But I can't help but wonder. You've now passed the draft and free agency. You're into the summer things. Money's been spent.

Yeah, the cap's going up. But still, it's, I just wonder how it feels like it does become really hard to get max value. And I don't know what max value even looks like. I feel like if the offers would have been. intriguing you to had it done by now but i agree i might be wrong well no i again i'll repeat myself uh i know the la offer my understanding is that it was terrific and and there were other offers that um you know i'm not saying conroy would have pulled the trigger on immediately but this is all

part of that dance and i would i would assume that sure you know if you're giving up the assets that you're giving up to acquire this player the reason you want the player is on a longer term right and And I do understand that I do appreciate that position. But like Red said, I mean, it's it's not like you're getting sent to an outpost when you're getting traded to Los Angeles. Yeah. You know, and taxes are taxes in basically the vast majority of the market of the National Hockey League. But, you know, he decided he's going to dig in.

In the CBA, I think it was an NFL trade, too, the day. I don't remember. instead of allowing the no trades like i don't know if you could ever get rid of the no trades or the no movement clauses they don't really mean anything anyway except not really screw the team over i guess blah blah blah blah as opposed to a no movement what about a movement clause where it's you get paid okay there's no no movement clauses anymore but there are movement payments payments okay if you want to trade me i can't i can't get a no move but you're going to trade me it's million bucks or you know what I mean

whatever it might be and maybe that doesn't even count against the cap but it allows the teams to go Jesus like we're trying to do right by all these players and this is how they hold it to us I just don't know that it I'm a player but I'm actually worried that the other side

doesn't have as much say as they should they're the guys right in the bloody checks and the players are being pouty pants about it like yeah yeah and you know I it is easy to say don't give them, right? And there have been managers,

like Lou Amarola hated, you know, all of the trade protection. Because it buckles you down. That's pretty obvious. But, you know, it depends on the player that you're talking about. Your rest, Ms. Anderson's a pretty good player. Like, he's, that would almost be automatic, wouldn't it? You know, when you're having that negotiation,

the fact that he's got a limited no trade might be considered a victory. But you do, like from the first. financial i understand what you're saying right and i it it it won't happen because it just it it won't because it it further would encourage the haves and the have-nots you know the tronel mapleafs and the new york rangers have nothing but money you know if they can cherry pick the best players by throwing in five million bucks that's what they're going to do you know to to convince the team or however the the dynamic of that works um you know you are seeing go ahead

well pinder brought up they used to be able to say the conditional right is the yeah so you used to have a conditional pick for if a guy re-signed and that would alleviate all the issues Craig Conroy is facing because you can just say all right LA here's the package yeah and if he extends there we add another first yeah okay Vegas you're getting no hanofin this is a

fair dear for a rental but if he assigns with you guys you got to attack on another first that was that tool was taken away and I really don't understand why because you can see the conundrum it's led to for the flames with raskers Sure. And I don't have an answer for you as to why it would be removed, you know, for this very scenario. You do have other means of kind of sweetening the pot.

Like, teams will wait until a certain day. Like get past July 1st. We'll eat the signing bonus, whatever that annual sign. And sometimes it's big money. You know, it's not just a couple hundred thousand. Like, it can be millions of dollars on July 1st. And teams will say that. All right.

You know, well, let's agree to the trade. We can't announce it until July 2nd because we'll eat the signing monos. So there are mechanisms, but I honestly, I don't have an answer for you as to why they remove that conditional pick.

I don't because it would make a lot of sense. No, and I don't, I'm not looking for you to spill on anything. But you mentioned K. Andre Miller in the Flames. Do you believe that was an Anderson deal? Or was that something that was maybe separate?

No, I don't think it was Anderson. I think it was separate. you know, potentially a forward is what I was told. But yeah, because New York, when we started yesterday, we were basically 95% sure that Gavrakoff was going to end up with the New York Rangers. Yeah, it's been the rumor for months. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, I, Keanu Miller, that he seemed to be the most likely trade target. And, you know, there are other things, obviously, the Crider deal that, that Chris jury has done, that put him in a position. so that they could do this. And I don't think the Rangers are done yet either, but I think it was Gianne Miller for a forward and whatever else, I'm not sure.

I don't know if you have the answer to this either. I've been asked two or three times in the last day. How does Florida get to sign a 37-year-old to a six-year deal? Are there no guardrails? Is there nothing? Can you sign them? How old is too old? Well, it's funny.

I think Jeff O'Neill said on air. you know, by year three of this thing, he's going to be a $6 million skills coach. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. It's just the guys that you aren't going to be healthy until the end. Yeah. No guardrails.

And I'm pretty sure. I don't know this. I heard it somewhere on the travels yesterday. At Billy Zito or Florida actually reached out to the league to say, hey, we're going to do this, just giving you the heads off. So how they make the money work moving forward, year three, four, five, six. Who knows? I mean, maybe the guy just defies mother nature, father time, and he's playing in the league at that point.

Yeah, like 37. My math is not good. I hate when math gets involved. 37 plus six. That's a big number. I just wondered if there would be. Well, if you watched Kovetskin play, you watch him play this season. I mean, yeah, Corey Perry's another one. I mean, you just got to change your game, obviously.

Like, there's not a lot of mileage on Alex Ovechkin game by game anymore. He gets to a spot and just stays there until the puck arrives. What your thoughts on Vancouver? It was a tumultuous year, to say the least there. But Demko, Garland, and Besser all end up staying. I guess maybe the Bester and how that came to be because he signed after. July after it hit, but they're keeping the band together in a lot of the ways. You know, I want to give Adam Foote some credit here. And maybe it's just pure extension of Rick Tocket in that bench. I think Brock Besser primarily stays because he was comfortable to Rick Tocket as a great relationship with Adam Foote.

He knows what to expect. I'm sure Patrick Galvin and general manager said, hey, you know, we're going to start the year, unless something just pops in our lap here. We're going to start the year with Elias Patterson as our number one center. Philippeal is healthy. He's going to be our number two.

But we're having trade conversations. And if there is a possibility of adding another center, a 3A or a 2C, that's what we're going. So collectively, they probably sold Brock Besser on, hey, this isn't a bad spot. And Bessoran is, I think he has a girlfriend. I don't think they're married. But anyway, they like their life in Vancouver.

I can tell you when the day started, talking to someone close to Brock, you know, he had at least 10 teams that were positioning offers in a myriad of ways. Short term, lots of money with a good team and a bad team, long term, lower AAV with a good team and a bad team. Like, what do you want to do? We'll sign it all. Yeah. So I think in the end, he just stayed with being comfortable in Vancouver. Yeah. What do you make of the Oilers?

We know what the Florida Panthers did to remain. They kept their guys and they're going forward again for the Oilers. It's been back to back cup finals. Harry leaves. We've seen a lot of players leave. The goalies are the same as of today, as of this recording. They ad manned Japanie yesterday. So that's, you know, that's some scoring there.

I know. And it's probably overblown, but it's very much the, what can they do to keep Connor happy? Is Connor happy? Is this, that they showed enough to keep Connor? I'm guessing the answer is probably no, but you're pretty limited there with what the dough is. I guess with what they're able to do,

the job done by the Oilers to this part. Well, you know, I'm more curious about what you guys think, Amanda Pony. Yeah, I mean, his market was decent. There's no doubt about that. Brad Trilliving, I'm sure, kicked tires as a lot of teams did. They felt like they needed somebody who can play with Leon Driesout. Can Maggiabani play with Leon Dry Settle?

I mean, we're going to find out, but that's the thinking with that signing. And, you know, they were bargained shopping to a degree. They cleared the cap space, moved the pieces that they did, mostly because Drysidels extension kicks in, and the Bouchard extension obviously gobbles up a big chunk of the salary cap. So Stann, Bowman didn't have a whole lot to work with. And I think it's probably best case scenario because when, you know, I just talked about Vancouver shopping.

Toronto's got a shop for a top six. Montreal made a sweetheart deal and no adoption. But they need help up front. You know, they were going hard after Jordan Cairo in St. Louis and didn't find a way. So anyway, there's a lot of teams that are in the trade market. So at least Edmonton gets something back. I guess the one that surprised me the most, was Corey Perry.

You know, I thought with some of the creativity that we've seen around the league, with Stales getting Giroux done, Tavares with the Toronto Maple Leafs, Matt Tushane with the Dallas Stars, Jamie Ben with the Dallas Stars, go down the list, that Edmonton could find a creative way to do it,

because fan favorite, saw them perform in the playoffs, basically is said, look, I feel like I've got one more good year in me, but, you know, that's how tight it is. That's how tight it is for the salary cap and the Edmonton owners. They just couldn't afford to have Corey Perry on board.

It's wild. Their winger depth. Like, it's tough to argue having McDavid, Drysidle, Henrique, Ryan Nugent Hopkins is center options. But I mean,

Zach Hyman's a great winger. And after that, you're talking about, okay, well, we'll put R&H on the wing. And now it's Todd Colson or Manjipani. Guys have played fourth-line roles last year.

I know. Oh, well, Trent Frederick. And he's like, yeah, he was a great bottom six winger. Yeah. Well, what about Capit?

Well, he was on waivers. Like you're literally putting scraps. Yes. Around that center group in the forward ranks. Well, and that's why when you ask, you know, is Connor happy? I mean, he's not a dummy. He understands the restraints.

And he's a part of it, right? Like, he wants his big slice of the pie. And he's going to get that big slice of the salary cap coming up. No rush, by the way, on that front. But it'll get done. Inevitably, it'll get done. We're all curious as to what is that term going to look like. obviously Edmonton's going to want to lock them up for as long as they possibly can,

but maybe, maybe McDavid goes the path that Bouchard went, you know, goes with a four-year contract extension. So, you know, but I, you know, McDavid has to be paying attention on what's going on around the league. I mean, guys, are the Florida Panthers any worse than they were the night they won the Stanley Cup? I don't think they are. Like, they kept their three primary free agents.

Okay, Nate Schmidt. like Nate Schmidt probably would have stayed in Florida, but he resurrected his career, and there was a payday waiting for him, and he got paid. So good on Nate Schmidt. But they replaced Nate Schmidt with Jeff Petrie. Well, is that really a significant drop-off for the Florida Panthers?

I don't think it is. So if you're Connor McDavid and you're Leon Dreisaddle, and by the way, the lost Galletson, who's been named head coach, of course, of the Dallas stars and he's the the the mac david dry-sid whistler was in edmonton so they're looking around going Jesus now you know if we're lucky enough to make it back to the static cup on a lot of the west are we better yeah are we better than we were in game five in game six against a juggernaud team in florida and my answer is no they're not and i don't know how they get better and and

drags the challenges you're not asking connor macdavid if the last two years been good because they have. And you're not asking them if they can be competitive this year. Yeah. You're asking them to pick from two years out until an undecided amount of time. Right. The eldest system,

they're up against it on the cap. They're already the oldest team in a league last year. Yeah. It's becoming a tougher sell, in my opinion. Yeah. And now you get 20 plus million locked in on two defensemen, right? In Bouchard and two darned. I mean, it's a tough one.

You know, they're just, you know, we know the salary cap is going up next year. and then it's leaping again the year after that and the year after that. But is that really going to change a whole bunch of stuff? I mean, your good players always come up and need deals. And they're just going to get that bigger piece. Yeah, and nobody's going to take a discount to go to Edmonton. No one did yesterday. No one staying like Darnell Nurse wasn't going to play for less to stay in Edmonton.

And I don't, again, but in Florida they will apparently. Well, and the other thing here, and I don't know why people get so offended by it. But you look at that, like, God love Edmonton. Who wouldn't want to play with Connor McDavid? Of course you would. But, you know, you look at the aggressiveness of Kelly McCriman and the Vegas Golden Knights. They always get the best players. The best available players always end up in Vegas or in, you know, with the two Florida teams.

Dallas has done a nice job. Well, that's not changing any time soon. So unless you draft and you develop and you're willing to be patient with some of these young guys, or you overpay. That's what the Canadian teams have to do. That's what they have to do. You know, Winnipeg, we haven't talked about Winnipeg, took it right between the eyes on Brock Bessor staying in Vancouver,

right between the lookers because, you know, they were willing to overpay, Brock Bessor to replace Nikolai Eelor's. Couldn't do it. So now what? You know, it's just they, they sign guys by committee, you know, Kepke and Tanner Pearson and Clegg, I mean. Walker Dewer. Yeah. Lame Walker doer.

Yeah. You mentioned Eelers as of this recording. He's not been nailed down. What's up, Doug? Thoughts on him. Well, I mean, I believe the speculation. You know, Carolina we know is keenly interested. And I mean, every team has checked in on him, right?

I mean, there again, you know, if you're looking for a plan B, Toronto would love Nikolai Eelers, Winnipeg would love to bring them back. I mean, just go on and on weirdly. And this is, you know what, I don't know Eilers very well, interviewed him a bunch. Seems like a pleasant dude, you know, heck of a hockey player, always willing to help in the community and all that. Doesn't like the spotlight even a little bit. And spotlight isn't that bright in Winnipeg.

You know, I mean, you go there, you play your games, you do your media, you want to go fishing. You know, you're 20 minutes from a lake to do some fishing, hunting, do whatever he did. Like, you know, fans aren't parked out front of your house is what I'm saying, right? So, you know, he's choosing a lifestyle very, very carefully. To the point, Bobby Mack reported on, like, Eilers is such a cool customer. He was golfing yesterday during free agencies, playing golf in Denmark. yeah don't worry about it that's what i got an agent for we'll figure it out so yeah i suspect that'll that'll get done in a day or two i i i don't know for sure but it's sure it sounds like carolina

would be the front yeah and i maybe manifesting things watching colorado yesterday and jonathan drouan goes to the islanders like well that was kind of that's that's that's nate's line made from junior and it was big thing he came in they let him go for four million a year is it possible they're keeping their powder dry if some kind of a player wants to come and play in Denver this year then it'd be like, geez, I guess we shouldn't have got

spent that $4 million on Druand. We could have used it a better way. Yeah, but don't forget, they don't have the LTIR on the Landisg anymore, right? And that was money that they would invest in these pieces. You know, they didn't get Jonathan Taves. They were gutted by that.

I'm not sure how they would have made that work anyway. I mean, there's always a way to make it work. You move guys out. out, right? Or you've got an LTIR situation that is going to present itself at the start of the year and you're fine until you're not fine and you've got to remedy it. But yeah, they thought they were getting taves until they didn't. And so I am a little bit surprised that, you know, they didn't try and invest in other areas. I don't know what sort of package was presented to Jonathan Rue.

I heard the San Jose Sharks made up just an enormous offer. And that would make sense because there's a team that's just scraping to get to the floor. Like, you get five million, you get five million. Like honestly. But to Drew Ann's credit, I think that with all due respect to San Jose, if that's the way he played out, He wanted to go to a place where he felt like, you know, they're on the upswing and there's an opportunity to win. And we'll see if that plays out. So do you get McKenzie's parking spot?

Is there like the Bobfather office? Your pay has to go up now because you just become more senior. Okay. So I will tell you the story. No, I don't get his parking spot. Mine is way down the way. So I will be talking about that. We have dressing rooms, a couple of the fortunate few.

I'm one of those. And Bob is right next to mine. But I like the layout of his better. So I might take that. I haven't decided. You got to fight Duffy? Is it Duffy? Is he the guy?

Yeah. Duffy is front row center, right in front of the doors. And then Bob is like two spots from James. Gino Red is in there too, but Gino is just old. So he needs to, you know, like he, he's got a cane and next year to see walker i mean he's got to roll himself in pretty soon no the quick bob story though is so when when um sports that got the the first round of of the nchl rights was that 12 years ago how many ever years years ago that is so tsn was terrified

they're both gone they moved on to stew johnson as a commissioner of the cfl right he and mark Millier who was the head of TSA at the time. Met us in Ottawa. We were doing a game. Bob and I and James individually and said, we're tearing up your deals. They were scared we were going to jump ship. It was just a beautiful situation.

So here's your deal. So then independently, the negotiations start. And my number was nice. I liked it. But I said, no, no, no, no. Here's the number I need. And I said, and you know why?

because Bobby Mac is going to retire one day. And I exaggerated. I said in the next six, seven years, well, you went a lot longer than that, six, seven. And they went, geez, that's a good thought. Never thought of that. So I stung him. So that was Bobby's, that was his retirement gift to me a long time ago. Yeah.

I wonder, his number may have gone up because of that too. Maybe stick around for a few extra years. No, well, I talked to him today. He's not I was trying to lure him into one of these things like a podcast story. He's like, no, not doing it. No, no. I'm over it. He's made that pretty clear.

I know every at the end of every July 1, he was very happy to let everyone know, I'm going to the lake. I'm done. Bobby Marcia. Yeah, I'm out of here. But I mean, he's, he's just one of the good guys. And there is a lot of people who came out yesterday on social social media. Yeah. He's taught people a lot.

there was there was a real kind of uh respect and ethic way of doing things that led to bob being the most respected guy because he's like he's like no other he's not like everybody wants to break break trade but he was not going to do it at the risk of either being wrong or suering a source or anything like that it was the that ethical way of doing it agreed the best yeah i mean a great mentor for me 100 like i you know i just the most competitive person that I know in media probably will ever meet but ethically um just i mean we all bend the rules from time to time and you creep up to that line of where well don't be surprised if this happens but if this doesn't happen maybe that happens that sort of thing but a manager reached out to me

after word broke of course bob wasn't coming back and i thought he put it beautifully he just said of all the things boomer that you just talked about you know bob the pioneer of the hockey insider business no doubt i'm not sitting here without bob mackenzie you know elliott friedman is not doing what he's still working at the score if not for bob mackenzie with all due respect um i mean it's just that's the truth but this general manager said to me you know bob always would grind for the facts get the information but when he reported he didn't try and hurt anybody in the process. The player, either team, anyone involved.

There was always a positive spin to his reporting. And I'm mindful of that. I'm mindful of that. And it's also why I don't engage in social media nearly as much as I once did. I just, I don't need the noise or the nonsense. That's Bobby Mac. So, Summer, what's happening?

I've got a charity golf of, event on Friday and then Saturday morning she's wheels up head in west yeah in the Sierra AT4 I actually just cut a big hunk of foam 58 inches long 37 inches wide to fit in the backseat of the truck for tiny the great dane yeah cut like after the grade day that it'd be comfy yeah yeah so we drive to Sue St. Marie Friday, Saturday morning, Thunder Bay on Sunday, spend half the day with my daughter's there, and then the rest of the journey on Monday, I guess. So we'll be at the cabbage on Lake of the Prairie by Monday or Tuesday morning and the later. God, it sounds great.

I might be knocking on your door. Great. I'm going to go out there. So I'm there. I'll be lasso in Wal-I by. Ata boy. Thursday's men's diet at the old Lake of the Prairies golf course. So I probably won't do that Friday the latest. Yeah.

You got a lot in your plate. You know, it's, uh, well, I'm going to have a lot of my plate a week from now. Yeah. All right, fella. We appreciate you. You're the best. Uh, people love that we get you on here. So, uh, thanks for all the time you put in with us.

Thanks, yeah. My pleasure. Thanks for having me. I look forward to next season, assuming that we're going to continue on with this wonderful relationship. Yes. bought a nice fancy blackstone, which has been added to the family out West. So I'll be, I'll be sending you some of the pictures in the kitchen.

Yeah, some of us are far more excited and interested in that stuff. Nicola Hearders about Walker Dukes. Exactly. I'll send you picks, boys. You guys have a great summer. See you, Dregs. Thanks. There you go.

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Gotta check it. Yeah. Well, that's what's, you would be the worst. You are the worst insider the worst we can't even get your pals we've played with you would be at you'd be a steak dinner and guys would say yeah i think we're trading for a genlah and you'd be like what you don't have any horseraddish oh yeah i heard a dinner the other night they were trading them you didn't say you didn't say it well it was that important oh you got me in trouble early on in my i don't think i did oh yeah you and waltz would always give me shit saying you got oh whoa i was it and then the one day i was down doing in between periods and geo got hurt and he took as a good friend would just said yeah i'm screwed and i kind of told you that in between uh in a break

yeah and you would walks flip your lids what do you do you got to look people we got to like this is big news when i got my pepe slap did you not by me no by the i haven't the big squad down the saddle dome way rise but you know what though it just means they're paying attention and you're having an impact oh yeah positive impact of my life yeah still God, you look hung over today. Are you okay? My eyes are little. Like, did you drink two bottles? Your voice is a little dry.

It's a rough, rough, rough look right now. So here's, so we get up, I have a good day, head over to Bondos. Yeah. At around two-ish, whatever. Yeah. Having a couple drinks. And then that big mouth, Coons. Yeah.

He starts running his yap, like he's in shape. And I said, well, I got up and swam the lake already today. like I'm at training. I can. And then the challenge came out. Like I will kick your ass and I'm like, I've never lost to swim meet. Okay. Ever like undefeated.

Undefeated. How many wins though? Like a torpedo here. Gold ribbons or red ribbons across the board. Red the jet. Yeah. Yeah. And so of course, the race is on.

Yes, it is. And we have to where it bought the Lake Bonavista or something. There's an island. And I'm like, I will, let's go. We'll go. around the island we'll see and so I was feeling good at the time and I'm like and the swim because it's hot out this is going to be invigorating right so when I'm done I'm going to even be better and I'll really have a long runway of of drinking and partying yeah celebrating of Canada

who it was a runway first of all coonts cheated okay and he quit he went up onto the island and ran around the island it swam about one eight of the distance. Yeah. And, you know, everyone was cheering. Yeah.

And I finished it. And I'm going, started to cramp a little bit. It started to worry. Your shoulders. I'm going under. Yeah. No,

I can only breast room. I won the race. I was so effing tired. Yeah. Oh, you're gas. Like, I actually think I'm still,

my, it's not gravelly because I was drinking. It's gravelly voice because I was, he was going to say, all that shit that's been sitting in the bottom of your lungs. Yes. Gets all. Yeah.

I'm glad you won. Still undefeated. Sound like a bunch of controversial disqualifications, but congrats. Hard to believe. The least surprising thing for me to see him cheap. Yeah. Never crossed your mind to. I knew I could do it.

I'm a swimmer. You are. He's undefeated. Undefeated. You are undefeated. I'm happy that. Now, when, when the cramp hits, is there a noise that, you make or it was a quick reversal under the back yeah deep breath breath breathe it out breath

i feel like this would be one of those things that and there's a many whether you're at the gym or doing something i probably look okay i probably look good right now and then if you were to ever catch a quick glance of your like oh i can see myself in the reflection of that window oh my god this is not to say that it wasn't an elegant and majestic event watching you do the breaststroke around Lake Bonavista, but I do wonder if it was a great spectator sport to watch YouTube dummies. I believe it would have been a good spectator sport if you're a couple houses down from the bonds, because then there was eight fat fuckers that got into a zodiac and we're cruising around the lake, and it was like, well, look at this crew.

Yeah. Like barely above the water. Oh, Canada. What a country. What a country. Love it. Yes. You don't see a lot of out-of-shaped swimmers.

That's the thing. It's almost like cardio and being an incredible shape. Well, like the water was still crisp. Yeah. So you really don't know how hard you work and you're still, you're not sweating it out until afterwards. Oh, boy, I know. Could not recover, Jack.

It was like having that fifth hot dog. It was just that. Yeah, it's too much to ask. I mean, obviously we can react to Dregs. Kandre Miller, flames are in. It looks good. Look, young left shot D, they're going to be all over. They're loaded on the right side with prospects.

We'll see how many of them make it. Weiger's a righty, Anderson's a righty, Pahal's a righty, Perix are righty, Percevichs are ready, Mews is a righty. Not all these guys are going to be players, but say you don't need to collect young right shots. The only guys they haven't left their ball, who they just extended, and Jake Bean,

who I think is probably playing his last year as a flame. Yeah. And like what? You got a Slovia of? okay maybe he could be a six seven but anytime you can find a mid 20s heading into their prime left shot d expect the flames to be on it does that they have to give up well i think it was about a first and a second from carolina we're okay if that would uh i wouldn't i would with carolina's first and second yeah the flanes's first second are going to be quite a bit higher and you got the mcana

dupland drafts coming up right um you can build a case you bring him in your pick will be higher like not as sexy but counter mill is an interesting one because he's a very highly touted young player a lot of great tools had a really tough year last year but also was on a team that was a disaster and the same things can be said for bow and byron like these are really really toolsy great young prospects that have shown they can succeed at the n hl level but were in awful awful situations last year yeah i i'm always curious so if you're getting are you still in the market for 25, 26 year old players, or is it, or are you keep pick, get more picks and strip it and strip it down. I don't, I don't know because when I hear the, but it's probably what they'll

end up doing, but what's the, what's the right thing to do? What's the smart thing to do? Well, and then that's the great dilemma that they're in because you can look and say, if you got a top 10 goal in the league, like, sure, get as many picks as you want, liquidate when you want, but like, they think they might think they're good. And then the flip side is, God, they're not even close. They don't have stars, but. They need a bold direction. Like Connie can't let this play out in front of him and he just follows whichever way the current goes.

He has to chart a course here. And all he's doing right now is saying, if you're a year away from you of a fate, we're not losing you for nothing. Until then, I'm not picking the fate. But it'd move like that would chart a direction. Yeah, like in terms of even if it's next year's first round pick, how are you spending it?

Draft night or to get a 20, or part of a package to get a 25. spending next year's first round. It's McKenna. Like the Islanders did not think they'd be picking first. They had a better roster than the Flames did in theory. That's kind of where I fall in is. Yeah.

I think Bowen Byron is a good player. I think K. Andre Miller's, these are very intriguing guys. You love to have them. What, what first, it's going to take the first rounder and to get that guy. Is that how you want to spend that? So maybe what you would do in this instance is you say, Vegas's first is on the table. And we've collected these other seconds from selling off guys. but our first we have to protect.

And that would have been maybe a nice middle ground. We're going to take a quick break. I got to get out of the way it looks like. We got a guest coming in. Someone less time over than you the day after Canada. We don't know that. We don't get. You can't speak to that.

It's a guess, but that's all it is. It's a very safe bet. I like my chance of being right. You know what? Our next guest probably didn't get into a swimming race around Bonavista, around the island yesterday. I'll go that far. and i don't want to race that's in very good shape yeah he's still retired stay there two minutes

we'll be right back all right welcome back please to be joined by uh el presidente de of the calgary stampeters it's not very well trying to think of a western tie-in i guess that's not really uh j macneal joins us here in studio good to see you is you the sheriff is that a sheriff sure yeah it's not bad next week maybe that works it right if we win maybe the sheriff okay we're excited to have you uh it's one what you brought with you. No, you know how it is,

right? We know what it's like. The Stampede Bowl, the inaugural stampede bowl is coming up at McMahon Stadium. And there is, to the Victor Gold. So if those other guys win, they're taking that home with them,

is this true? We're not letting this thing leave count. No, I can't leave count. That's right. Yeah. It is the Stampede Bowl. That's the trophy.

You don't get that on Amazon. I don't think. I don't think they have those. I mean, that's a big undertaking to, get a trophy built. How long did it take to design it? And we'll get into the idea of the whole,

the game in general, but the trophy looks awesome. Yeah, they did. You great job. The company that made it was MTS bronze, the same company who made the Four Nations Cup trophy. Gotcha. And so when we reached out to them and asked them if they wanted to be a part of this, they were all over it.

And, you know, between our creative team and theirs, they just came up with it with a beauty and they did a great job. Yeah, I know I was doing just kind of reading when it came out. The players were like, you got to see this thing. It's one thing to see it in pictures, but to see it, like you would imagine, it is very cool. One of the things on the pictures, it looked like it was the horse head, but here you can see, it's just the one angle. It's actually kind of looks like a torch and then the ears pop out.

I've got quite impressed because I've seen the social stuff, but it's, and apparently like, what, 40 pounds? They say it's 40. I think, you know, it feels like it's 50 or 60. Okay. It gets heavy. That's how long you've been curious. I don't know if anybody's going to be drinking out of it. It's that heavy.

Really? Okay. Lots of challenge. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. You'd be surprised. Good problem to have if we're doing that. Yeah.

You know, when you took the job, I remember you were kind of talking about, look, we can talk about the stadium, the state, we can continue to bitch and complain about that. Or we can take the hand we're given and let's make the best of it. And you talked about innovation. And let's engage fans and let's do, let's try and do, it's such a cliche, out of the box. Let's try some stuff. And this to me feels like one of those things for sure for a lot of it.

Well, you can't compete with Stampede. You don't want to. There's a lot of people. around. Let's make it a thing and then it becomes a thing. How long has the Stampede Bull been the Genesis, I guess? When did you guys start to feel like, yeah, we're doing this? Well, I think the first conversation happened a couple of years ago. We never hosted a game over Stampede. You know, is this something we could do? Would we want to do it? Would the Stampede allow us to, you know, partner with us on that? And it just kind of didn't go anywhere. And then, you know, a year ago, so, you know, we've,

we typically we would either have a buy week or we'd go on the road and then we'd host a game the weekend after stampede and we know how this city is the weekend after stampede people are out of town they've spent all their money and they're tired and it's hard to get people to come to a game and say well okay we're going to do something different here and that's sort of the genesis of it and then it you know we really we approached a stampede and they were on board from from day one and then the organization got right behind it and our ownership you know great commitments from them to invest in this game. And it's just sort of, it's taken off from there.

And here we are on the eve of the stamp people. Will this be a Calgary versus Winnipeg annual thing? Or is the opponent kind of, we like, we like Calgary versus Winnipeg, right? You know, they've represented the West the last five years in the Great Cup. So, you know, as we all said, we want to be the best. You got to beat the best. And so we wanted them this year and they accepted that challenge. we'll see where we go next year.

Is it a multi-year commitment or just this year? Because I'd heard that it might be the bombers for a bit. But you do have like the riders are a special thing. Battle of Alberta, you got Labor Day. It would be nice to lock something into Winnipeg where it's like, oh, I know what time of year that game is. Like it's one of those rivalry ones.

I just, I know it. And that's exactly what we're trying to create. It is, we've got two big games in Labor Day in Saskatchewan. And so how do we create a third one? And then we want, you know, so everybody knows, plan your calendar around the Stampede Bowl and you'll be here. So, you know, there's a good chance we'll see Winnipeg again next year. But we are flexible on it.

We asked, we had Dave Dickinson on. We asked him before us. So Brett Michaels, the set your pick who, because I mean, it'd be one of my picks. We had a little, you were very sad. That's a poison playing before the show started today in here, oddly enough. What about Brett Michaels, the halftime and just everything else? Obviously, it's going to be bombers versus stampeters and the trophy's on the line. But what else will people expect when they go to this game or?

Yeah. It's good. Like, we've got so much happening, like, in the pregame, halftime. and then post game as well. So, you know, the TSM panel is coming and broadcasting live from the game. They'll be in the Coors Lake Corral. Yeah. So that should be a lot of fun.

They'll have their backs to the field. Dawson Gray is going to play in the pregame. We've got the Stampy Show Band's going to do some. I saw them yesterday. They're in the Banff Canada parade. They hauled ass. They're really fun. It's a big time of year for those guys.

Oh, man, they're busy. Yeah. We were like, I'm really surprised that, you know, given the parade coming the next day, they'd be able to do it and they were all they were on board at the moment we asked and then um you know obviously bret michael's at half time and so like i'm i would love to take credit for that well that's our co-lo lorenzo de sico he was the one talked about nothing but a good time and i was on board from the moment he said it and i got to tell you like i mean we just released a video that brett's you know helping to promote it but he's been tremendous uh he's jack we talked

to him about two months ago. Lorenzo and I on the phone and he was, guys, I know what you want to do. I will blow the doors off at Calgary for it. I love it. So we're excited. Yeah. If it's not about it just feels right. Yeah. It's not Canadian.

If he, that just feels like this is the kind of thing. Let's go guns, blaze. Right. Here's what his wife Canadian. Oh, is that? His wife's from Cranbrook, B.C. So yeah. Yeah. You know, so what's, he's honorary. Yeah. Yeah. I hadn't thought about the, the, the weekend after Stampede trying to sell tickets.

This is the kickoff now. Like this is what I love this idea. It's like, okay, well, the rides open on the Thursday. There's the stamps game. Well, then first Friday there's all these things. Then only got to, like I think it's going to be great. And I can't wait. It sounds like the crowd's going pretty darn well.

Yeah, we're pretty excited. Like it's, you know, everybody's responding. Like we're literally selling tickets as we speak. You know, we're watching yesterday. We had a candidate sale today. You know, it's continuing on. So it's going to be a fun day. Is the ticket?

because I take sale continues till midnight tonight, is that? Or was that last night? That was last thing. Yeah, fair enough. Yeah, we just do like 24 hours. So think about social media. It's like, well, when was this post at the time? I'm stupid and I don't know anyway.

But I mean, it's truly one of those things where if you haven't been to a Stampeder game, and we got it, summers are busy. And it's all that. If you haven't been in a while, you guys have done a lot to revamp and change the in-game experience. And you can buy tickets. Oh, you had half time on the field. You guys are really working at the fan experience.

to make it something different, something special, that if you haven't gone, you need to go again and see Stampedeter football. Yeah, I am incredibly proud of our game presentation team. They do a spectacular job of providing an end-to-end experience for our fans and something you can't get on TV. Tomorrow will be on steroids. So it's going to be a good day.

Yeah, I love it. We're going to be there documenting it. So we've got producer Jack as well as Robert Munich, Bobby Germany, we call him, who writes for the website, myself amel delich is coming out from our headquarters in toronto to join us and ret is going to tell us tomorrow whether he's coming or not because that's about as much you know half time yeah half time it'll you know i would offer up arm wrestle on that one you know i don't know i don't know well then he is coming i love long arms but you're in shoulders

i like i'm in jays camp on that one you're in so you're in a unique spot because of how many years i mean you're what do you're you're still a player first because we had red sitting here we're We're talking about trade deadline or whatever. And while the players are dictating this and the teams and he's kind of swayed more to the team size, these players are, are you a player still? Are you an executive because sales business, that aspect? Well, you know, I think, you know, in my mind, I'm still a player. Yeah.

You know, but the reality is I'm old. And so you ask any of the guys in the locker. Yeah. That old guy, not a chance. So which I can live with. I know my lane now. But in the spot, you're in, I think you would be able to appreciate, we want to try this.

Well, you need the players engagement. And there's one thing for the players say, yeah, it's, well, it's on the contract and it's something we have to do. And then there's other stuff. Like we, the Huffburgers and stuff like that, you're, you will know what will resonate with players and what guys are going to really be invested in doing outside of the actual football. And I don't know how many teams can say that, that they've got a guy with your kind of player pedigree running the place. And that has to be a benefit. Do you think that there is just your experience, what, 14 years as a player, bringing that forward?

I think it certainly helps. You know, and I'm very mindful of the requests we make to our players too. You know, we don't want to put them in a bad position that's going to, you know, compromise a game, let's say, you know, or so we've never asked them to do something that as a player I wouldn't have been willing to do. So I think that that helps. The fact of the matter is we've got some great personalities on our team that care about winning, that care about this organization and their community.

And so they're willing to do things that are amazing. And I just, I feel very lucky to be a part of that. Yeah. I'll tell you, when we talk to Dave, the, you know, the horse head, the helmet, the history and that of the team is, you know, it's almost unmatched. And then you go forward, the league is so proud of its rich history. And that is great. But I think there is that time.

And I feel like you guys, you did it with your roster in terms of player personnel. We didn't make the playoffs. That's not acceptable. Talk's cheap. We're changing coaches. We're changing players. And with any luck, that that makes a big dent this year. And then there's the other side. Let's do some things that are outside of the norm. And I do think talk is cheap sometimes. There's a new trophy sitting on the table. You're doing something you've never done before. The fan experience is different. I give you guys a lot of credit for putting some things out there to see if they work. And not all will. I mean, we started this thing. We can tell you about things that work or not work. But I think it's awesome for a league that probably needs to be doing a little bit more of it. You guys are doing a lot of it. So well done. Well, thank you very much.

Yeah, the two words we've been using as an organization, as an organization, that doesn't matter on or off the field. It's bigger and bolder. What can we do differently? How can we do differently? And how can we engage our fans in our community differently? And the Stampede Bowl, that is just a testament to exactly that attitude. And it's not going to rain. And it's not going to rain.

I felt bad for you guys. Man, it was bad last weekend. It's one of the rainiest days I can ever remember saying. and it was a stamp theater game day. And you only get a few of those, unfortunately. Yeah, nine regular seasons a year and you get one of the, oh, this is the worst down for in 72 years. Great.

But if you make up for it tomorrow, then all is maybe forgiven. I, you know, it was, that might be the worst weather game I've ever been a part of player. Yeah. And you think about snow, blizzards, all those sorts of things. That was as gross as it gets. Yeah. And so, you know, the forecast for tomorrow is going to be fantastic.

And it's, yeah, we've moved past that one. and here we go, Stampede Bowl. Ticketmaster. Yep. Yeah, or Stampeters.com. Stampeters.com. 7 p.m. kickoff, lots of tailgating opportunities. And obviously the pregame, the post game,

sounds like a full night. It's going to be a good night. Pace yourself, Ryan. Just try and paste yourself. Well done. Congrats. Love seeing it all. Best to luck tomorrow.

Thanks, guys. Yeah, and you can't let that thing leave. Yeah, no way. That's not a stay. Quick, quick break here. Two minutes. We'll be right back. There you go.

Stampede Bowl coming up tomorrow. Ticketmaster, Stamppeterseters. Tompenter in town. Oh, sorry. They are going to sell a lot of beer. Yeah, to you, but I think maybe in general. No comments.

I hope it's a great crowd and a great game and made the best stampeder's team win. Do we worry? I'm done. You can't. It does represent what we're, yeah, I know. I'll be on best behavior tomorrow. Don't you worry about it. Yeah, but that doesn't mean your best behavior is still some people's worst.

Yeah, it's true. Like you're, you're, I've had six beer behavior. best behavior is not applicable to the regular human what i only did 12 high kicks in the in the sweet with the owner the crowd into it i was just getting people excited that's fair enough yeah it's entertainment no i i mean good things for them hopefully you get some people that maybe haven't been in a long time you're in town for stamp you've never been it's the event the football is going to hold up its end of the bargain yeah everything else can come through and then you get some people coming back again how many license plates you see from like

like all over the U.S. and Canada in the next two weeks. It's wild. Like everywhere, like, everywhere. Like, there's just tourists everywhere. There's been a lot of people going to their first CFL game tomorrow night. Probably. Yeah. For sure.

So again, don't ruin anyone's night. Remember I've said before, like, Haschik would have to go out sometimes. Like Dennis Rodman. And then someone would have to be the sidekick and attend to them. Hey, Jack. don't let your idiot hat

get put on your like you can be the mature one here Roberts in charge I'm Bob Bobby chairman That's good accountability That's what we love around here No one's passing the buck Everyone takes

Hold the reins and owns it themselves That's what we need Speaking of beer's origin Oh good origin weather right now It is very good origin weather And I know we kind of talk about their Their beers and that Because we're very fond of the barn

Bernard Blonde and the afternoon pale ale and they've got all that. They have, and I'm just throwing it out there. They've got the hard seltzers that they've put out. The cherry key lime, the tropical mango and the watermelon. Maybe just throw a quick dozen of those in with your beer order if you're grabbing something. Try the cooler. Yeah, probably would be some room there. Give them a whirl because they're hard iced tea.

It's a, it's a showstopper. Unbelievable. I didn't know they had the salters until the other day. I was like, what? Yeah, that's unbelievable. Just more reason to give a little love to origin. I just got a text from Mark, by the way. I think we're going to replenish that fridge just in time.

Yeah, weird, how. You know, just reaching out to clients. We may need to change the security code on the door. There's a few things that are going missing. Change the locks. Yeah, maybe. They've got Origin Calgary. The tap room is open Wednesday to Thursdays from 11 a.m. till 8, Friday, Saturday,

11 till 10, Sunday is 1 to 7. You can buy your beers there. They've got the O dogs going there. You can get your brisket dog and the macon cheese, chili dog. That's 943, 28th Street in the Northeast. Then, of course, in Strathmore, 60 Spruce Park Drive. They have been cruising there for a long time and it continues. They got their big birthday bash coming up in less than a month now.

That's right. That's the Strathmore gets drunk for a weekend fast. Something like that. Yeah. Originbrewing.com. for all the details on all that stuff plus the deeper says he's got him fully stocked not a white deeper my teeter yeah he's in the chat is he in the chat yes yeah even after you disrespected his family right let me i feel it was maybe you turn a guy's text working outside

eh yeah they're working outside good for them good job i'm pretending to work for a while it's good to see something moving out there get to the escorted to the door Yeah, there's a lot of people on that duty. Stand there kind of standing around and then you start walking. Yeah, I can figure it out. Stupid. One foot in front of the other, left foot, right foot. Don't stand behind the excavator while it's back.

Oh, yeah, there's something like that. Just can walk right into that bucket on the front on loader, but I guess now I won't. Pinder Report for Village Honda, the fifth annual Honda and Accura Show and Shine is coming up August 23rd. Awards for Best in Show, Best Modified, Best Classic, People's Choice. And you can do all, you can get yourself registered online at village honda.com. Their demo inventory clearout is on. Maybe that's not that you come into town, go to Stampede Bull. Grab a passport or two.

That's what I'm going to do, right? Yeah, do it right now. Ryan will do the Pinder report, I guess, while you do that. So it's the Pender Report. Ryan Pinda, Ryan Pinda. Boys, a lot coming on in Flamesland. Flames Nation.C.A. rammed with wall-to-wall coverage.

Bobby Germany, Ryan Pike and company. The writers are writing. Writers are writing. The writers are writing. Eight Flames thoughts on day one, a free agency. That's Bobby Germany's piece that just went up at eight this morning. Joel Hanley is back. Somebody we've never heard of that was playing in Germany has entered the organizational fold.

And a Russian netminder that once was in the NHL is back with the flames. More on Flamesnation.com. Nice. There's the Hanley Details Rett. a very reasonable $1.75 million for a guy who has had quite the spectrum of play from being available on waivers to the flames where they selected him to playing top pair with McKenzie Weger down the stretch on a team that lost a playoff spot by a tie break. Large range of outcomes. I feel like he's well liked in the book. I think, yes, very much so.

It's a hell of a fellow, Dean. They call him nacho. Does he likes nachos? He might, but. I don't know why you would make that connection. We're best of the butts. Seems weird. Are you familiar with the,

the Nacho story? Coach is calling him Joe Hanley. He's like, it's not Joe. It's not Joe. He's like, okay, not Joe. So he needs to be Joel. Joel's his name. Oh, not Joe.

Joel? Not Joe. So it says Joel Hanley in the article. Yeah, yeah. I see that. I like that actually. It's better. Okay.

Ratsy or. Yeah. Not Joe. That's actually a rare. good nickname in the nature for being fair uh the netminer we know less about this is ivan pro zvetov who they've been in on him for a long time they've been really wanting well we heard the rumors what a month or two ago that they might be into bringing him back we talked about it on this very program we did we did was i here not a lot no it was an item like this that we mentioned

it was a good report no one paid attention that's correct uh one of us didn't uh sitting right there Arizona and Colorado, the prior stops, and he has had a tidy outing against the flames. Maybe they remember that. Maybe they think he's a toolsy young fella. But between him and Logan Cooley, you've got your number two and your number three. One are you going to win the backup? One are you going to go starting that for the Wranglers? Or you play so damn well in camp, we can't put you on whoever's going to trade to someone.

Hey. Please do that. Feels like it's Wolf's job to lose too for the number one. But don't tell Ivan that. He's the highest paid goalie, right? I'm looking forward to the battle. I love competition. Yeah, good goalie controversy.

I think the Canucks are spending about like 13 million on goalies? Can they sign Wolf today? Like, why the, what are we waiting for here? Robert, can they sign him today? They can sign him. He says yes. I would think those negotiations are happening. I don't.

He might be going to bull busting or something. And if you're the agent, maybe you want to see what the Lucas Dostel contract looks like. and a little more juice there. I don't know. I don't think the agents are in any rush. I think the Flames would be trying to get it done today. Fair. As a fan.

Yeah. Seems like an important piece, core part. These are Connor. All due respect to Nick Seasck. Right. Seaske coming home to work for CSEC. Yeah. Who couldn't have seen it coming.

Flames have added some championship pedigree to their organization in their development staff in the form of Cup winner, Brent Sebr. Wow. It was 10, 12 and 15, 12, 10, 13 and 15. It was three times. It was three times. Seabs.

Sebs. Seabs. This would have been a bigger headline if it was 10, 12 years ago. Flames sign. Yeah. Because I think he actually got signed to like an eight year monster deal by the Hawks then. So if you'd somehow got to the flames, that would have been huge. Yeah.

Would have been huge. Yeah. Huge. Not to diminish the signing. Michael Stone already in that department. So a couple. D men for the young fellows to learn from

your precks and bristeviches and muse of the world he'll be arriving or if not already here. Okay, next. So here's the radically different flames right after in the draft. Shush. Do you want my eyeglasses? No, I might swap Coronado and Zeri, but those are your top six

four. But the personnel. Yeah. It's the same. Do you want to read them through to us? Johnny Huberto, Nas, and Ceri's still there. Okay, Coleman, Backland, Coronado, that's good. We wanted them back. Farabee Frost and Sharon Govich.

Okay. That's us, yeah. Forth Lurg, Pospicil, and Klapka. Radical change. They'll probably have to do some bonding trip. I don't know, Dean, what you do? Do you take them to Banff? Is it, you go to Canmore and play golf?

How do you get this group that's so unfamiliar? A bunch of softies. A lot of you just spa at Canaanaskis. Well, they should. That's the team right there. Well, that's the forward group. So I'll show you the D because, I mean, after the signings of you. Anderson's.

Yeah, it's the same. Now, there will be a Zane Perak to squeeze in somewhere, but. God, I hope so. And I like an ass, but I really hope that he's in one of those spots right there. Yes, I would suggest you slide Weger to the left side. And one of Bean and Pahal comes out and Perak slides into the top form. Yeah, and it's, you know, a guy's got to play. don't want to send him back to junior you can only kind of play

conceivably play here so he's got that going for him yeah yes and you got a world junior tournament if it's not going well here whatever sure or just come up and dominate like you don't look pretty good in game anything world juniors i think he's quite content to give team canner to the finger i think probably that's yeah i think you'd love to toss the bird out to them and say that would be my appetite as well i got 25 points of christmas you guys can screw your hat i'm not going anywhere i'm going to make my nchel money good luck and did you know is michael misa The number two overall pick also wasn't good enough for.

Wait, what? He couldn't go. You know what? It's not their fault. They should have done two teams. I didn't think that was necessary. I thought that was hurt. You know,

we're being cheeky about the rosters. Was he was zebra crew? He was been part of their management team for some events. I think maybe four nations. He's learning the ropes. Just because it kind of. But if there was some big name added to that list, you know, you showed the forwards in the day.

Yeah, they're the same. You want them to be the same right now, don't you? Not because you think it's your best chance to win. It's, well, don't go be in harsh and rash with a bunch of signings or. Yeah, I mean, if they'd move around so, they'd be okay with that. Fair. But yeah. Look, not surprising that it's generally a recent, like a, sit back and wait.

No one thought they were signing Mitch Marner. Sorry, guys. In Nets, they will. other guys prosvetov and yeah i had gone it had been a long a lot of days before i would have forecast the nick c-sex signing uh matatoba boy that's right yeah is he you just said that's right yeah yeah him and prosvet prozvettov from uh he's not from that lattebani broverov not from from Lactobony. Osiris.

Prosvetov. Back to you, Ryan. Thanks, Dean. You said we were getting Proveral. No, that's a defenseman. Orlov? Orlov's still available. We'll get to the best available players in a moment.

First, there was a lot of money spent on guys that you might have heard of that are, well, they're at least okay. This is total dollars earned as the sort from the top to bottom. Vatislav, Gavakov, goes coast to coast from L.A. to New York. he's a very good defenseman he's a two three he's making 49 million bucks over seven years mckell granlin got paid the ducks have a trillion dollars in cap space he'll make seven a year it's 33 i think that's a piss for sign and he'll make them better on the ice and they're so young i don't want a veteran guy let the kids they're coming they're going in the right direction

they're going in right direction they've been bringing in old dudes though yeah they brought in uh on the back in Truba, obviously, Crieder up front. Yeah. They want to win right now. And they were probably hoping to get a Marner or an Eilers, but Granlin will have to do because they probably got a nose everywhere else. It's a nice place to play. Ryan Lindgren was just okay last year. He'll get 18 million from Seattle.

Cody Cici was not good last year. He'll get 18 million from L.A. Ken Holland can't quit this guy. Tanner Genoa, who had one good year once, is getting 17 million over five years. Connor Brown leaves his old pal, Connor McDavid, and heads to New Jersey, on a three times four.

Brian Dumolin, not a great year. 33, almost 34. He got three years and four million bucks from Kenny Holland. Nate Schmidt, three and a half times three. He leaves the Florida Panthers to go to the Mahmout.

Um, Abby, Mammu, Mammut. Jonathan Juran, an interesting signing, two times four to go to the island. Brandon Tanev

He also goes to the Mahmout. Is Dumlin better than Schmidt? Not this past year, but a year ago you might have said so. I think Lafave did a great job with Schmidt in Florida. Well, he does a great job with everyone. Yeah, and so

I would suggest Cody Cece and Brian Dumlin our best serves is 5, 6, 7s. Just because we're poking fun at the Kings. Cici and Dumlin and Schmidt, let's say, But who's the best player out of all?

Is it C. See, because he's getting the most money. I don't like those options. No. No, but you have to choose one. Who's your guy,

Dave? Schmitt's last year was good before. Nice guy that Nate Schmidt. Everybody loves him. Yeah. Very popular. You know? Always smiling,

laughing. So if he fires a pizza up the middle and it ends up in your net, you probably going to be, ah, Schmidty. You silly goose. Don't do. do that again, but I love you. But if you're upset at Craig Conner and not spending money, just ask yourself,

like, which of these deals would you actually want or even help the flames get better? It's Gavrikov at the top. That's about it. And he wasn't coming to Cal. Who do they bump out of your lineup? Because you just showed it. You show that line up. Jesus, so many.

What are we going to do? I don't see any top two centers here either. That's probably another interesting. Again, tongue and cheek, but I, if I'm a flames fan, there's nothing here that I sit and say, man, missed out there. Yeah, but that was the whole league. Right? Kind of.

All these guys feel like pieces that need to be, they're not centerpieces. They're additions to squads that feel like they have holes. Filling out rosters. There's more signings. We'll quickly glance at them. Manjapani gets 3.6 times two from Edmonton. Bob Stauffer, who's employed by the Oilers,

quickly pointed out the season he had three years ago when he scored 33 goals, not the two can't get to 15 seasons that he's posted back to back. Curious to see what it looked like he will get looks in the top six. If he plays with dry sidle, then all bets are off. Correct. And that's what they tried to do with Arvinson and Skinner.

They've both been not brought back. We'll see if it works. More miles on both those guys. I'm not saying that it's going to work. I'm not here with the signing. I actually think it works out. I do too. And nothing to do with Van Chapney other than

opportunity, right? Getting there's great opportunity. And if he doesn't do it, then there'll be other guys that'll get a shot there. But it's a bet that he can get back to being a 20 plus cool guy. And if you're playing next to Drysiddle, I like your chances of that. If you're on the fourth line in Edmonton, I don't like your chances of that. Faxus stays in Dallas.

Nick Perbix. He goes to Dallas. He was drafted by them originally. Thank you. He was blue, I believe. Thank you. Nick Perbix goes from Tampa to Nashville. Oh, Nick. DeVorak, huge money on a one-year deal.

The flyers have no centermen. They're hoping Devorak can get back to his, I look like a number two center ways. It's a one-year bet, so if it doesn't work, no worries. Are Mia to the Kings? Anton Forsberg, the backup in Ottawa last. to the Kings. Nico Sturham leaves Florida to go to Minnesota.

Adam Goddette and John Klimberg to the sharks. Klimberg turns the mid-season league minimum, pull them off the scrap heap and a decent postseason into four million bucks just a few months later. Probably a decent for both sides too. I mean, obviously decent for Klingberg, maybe four million bucks, but what the hell of the sharks? Well, like Drake said, we got to get to the floor.

Yeah, and look, put them on your third pair, let them move the puck, shelter him, sure. And Klingberg's made some good money here the last little bit to either not play or to be below average. I don't know if he's made enough to cover off. He's effed up. Yeah, the extension that he said, no, I want the hayskin in one and didn't accept that money has been met. He was one year at six in Anaheim, one year at times four in Toronto, but call it a million bucks last year. I don't feel bad for anyone.

There's a lot of money out there. Still a 20. You said, I've never heard the guys named 2.75. Let's go. Decent season in Tampa, but not. top four, I don't think. Yeah. Top four.

If you're getting to top four, put 2.7. No, he's not a tough four. Fed up. No. That is fair. We'll move. Always good to see the greats and just a reminder of what excellence looks like. This is my swim video?

Close. That's Ovi playing beach volleyball. Jack, we. That looks like my competition. He could have fit right in. Yeah. He would be grayer and bigger than some participants. It's not a,

Those shorts are having a hard time. He's hanging off for dear life. They are distressed. The hell are you? I'm just like, look, that's me. He's the greatest. He's the goat. Oh, geez.

Yeah. Okay. And did we ask? Why does the bean pull out to stand next to him? Come on. That's just not fair. That's not nice. AI, eh? Yeah. AI. Thanks, Jack, for the AI.

As for the best available free agents, wanted to just quickly run through some names. has not been signed. We talked about that with Dreger. Go get him. Other names, Pughes, Souter was a middle-sixth centerman for the Vancouver last year. He's the top center available. Dmitri Orlov, we mentioned, left-shot, hooking defenseman, Jack Roslovick, who's been hot and cold in this league with the Rangers, blue jackets, and elsewhere. So would you think that Orlov's not interested in coming here? Is that why we haven't signed him? I would suggest that's fair. Or he just wants too much, yeah.

Like we talked about it not to get too bogged down it. If you're someone that wants to come and say, if you're left shot, I'm going to get a lot of minutes. Yeah. There's a real opportunity. I might play with Weger. Who knows who I'm going to play with. Chance to maybe either up, re-up my stock or build, get paid for a year.

I did think we'd see something like that. And you still might. That's fine. You can bump Jake Bean down the depth chair. That's fine. Yeah. But I mean, just a lot of the guys are gone now. I still.

Those 2.4, 2.7. I thought there'd be one of those. guys you did as close as you were you had a really good year last year and you're rolling back the same lineup why are you better and what's going to make you think like oh yeah Anderson is a distraction you're going to need someone I'm yeah you think you're going to win with this team and it kind of looks like they're just going to go with it and see what happens fine you don't have enough or enough quality defense it's a conversation for maybe tomorrow or another day but I Oh, yeah, but I do stampede balls.

It's summer. I know it's summer. We're very close, Red. So close. I thought, because you guys worked Monday. Yes. You were keen to work Monday and then immediately booked yourself with an event Monday. If we'd like to go back and revisit this, we can do it now.

No, we don't need to. Let's keep moving. Brent Burns is available. He's 40. Yeah. Victor Olifson's been a guy that has scored in this league, but is not a well-rounded player. safe to say. He said spells in what,

Buffalo and Vegas, I want to say. If you want goals, you're just, the guy can score. They don't need wingers here. Anthony Bovilliers available. Matt Grislich, Boston Bruin,

third pair. These are men who have names. Yeah, and you know what? They aren't necessarily any of them fits with the flame so much as there are still a few guys that aren't signed left, but there aren't many you've heard of.

That list is nine long. I don't know how long that'll take to get some of these guys signed, but you said bass it's like if you don't go off the board early the put to squeeze to you in august you're on the job we got a spot maybe but you're gonna you're in ptole line if you're assigned by the end of the week it's typically how this goes yeah i'm not racing to get grizzlick under contract by lunchtime today no no might be a deal there curtis lazar has just signed a one-year deal on edmonton close to league min they've got a lot

of scrappy fourth-line guys but some of them are getting to play with really good players It feels like I, in my brain, I'm like, Bowman's done a good job, but I still don't know how they're better. Well, they've subtracted Perry, Brown, Kane, and Klinberg. And they've added men. There were times during the year. We would have said those guys are harsh shit and they shouldn't have them on the team anyway. Agreed. They agreed playoffs.

Perry did. But traded Arvidsson. So he's out. Arvinson as well. They lose. Tough to say you're better today. Yeah. They do a four money off the bench, which may or may not be anything.

Clemberg from the back end. I haven't changed their goal-tending. They swore they were going to. To me, that's the thing. Matt Tompkins is not an NHL option, sorry. And in fairness to them, there was no one yesterday that they were going to sign that was going to make you sleep a lot better at night if you were an oiler fan. I would think Jake Allen, but he wanted to stay in Jersey.

Yeah, but I think it's negligible. If they want to make a serious change to their net, it's going to be by way of trade. I don't know what that looks like. Yeah, but who? Don't have a lot of assets. Forsberg or Foresberg just signed. Or whoever was signed, like I say. there's no goalie out there that I'd be thinking,

damn it, if I'm an Euler fan. The other fans are holding on to hope that Carter Hart has passes a few hurdles that he'd be available, but he hasn't played much in the last two years, like 20-some games. It's not the change that I think many felt was going to be happened by now. Right. We'll keep moving.

Paul Skeen's good at baseball. This is Jack's boy. Guy can't win. I think he actually got to win yesterday. Isn't that all right, Jack? Yeah, he finally got a win. So here's the thing. Pirates on a heater. Guess much run support Paul Skeens gets? Like, they're just flying right now. One. One run.

They scored 37 runs in the game is the four. Yes or did he pitches? I win one nothing. They've won five in a row. That's how you have an ERA of two with four wins and 18 stars. I want winners, Dean. That's what I want on my team. He hates Pittsburgh.

He's like, honestly, I want to bring back pitchers hitting because I can't be worse than these assholes. Like, I'll go in the nine hole and help myself. when a game he doesn't hate everything he's laughing at you guys are idiots uh we talk about bobby benilla the the famous july one check he loves canada day more than july 4th because he gets that million bucks from the mets i got one better for you the nationals paid max sure sir 15 mil to pitch for someone else yesterday

i don't know how you can this i i understand why you're smart Oh, Max, I get it, bud. And he does have two eyeballs of different colors. Wait a minute. One of those huskies. What does he? I couldn't tell. Is that AI?

Is that real? That's right. He has different colored eyeballs. Really? He's one of the greatest pictures of all time. He's making $70 million from four teams this year. Andy is two different colored eyeballs. Only guy in the world that can ever say all those things.

I assume that's correct. Again, I'm AI. It's keep moving. Not one to say. Stampedeters. We just chat with Jay McNeil, the Prez. And he mentioned Brett Michaels all in on this. I'm fired up for watching some CFL football,

bringing some poison mega hits to Calgary for the Stampedeers. Stampede Bowl halftime show. Thursday, July 3rd, that's tomorrow. You don't believe him? Well, here he is. If a rose has it stone. Just like every night has it stone. Every cowboy thinks the sad, say,

say, song. Every rose has a history. Are you serious? All my stampeters, wow. It looks like you are ready to rock. Sing along. We're going to have nothing but a good time. I'll see you tomorrow to Stadium. McMahon, it is going to be so awesome.

Stampeders, you rock my world. Oh, there it is. They're pulled out all the stops. Jay said it. They're pulling out all the stuff. That is very good. They got me. The first one, I'm going, okay.

Pouring the coffee. There's been, you know what? There's been some stuff. There's social media crew. They're doing a hell of a job this year. Yes. There was one, I forget what the hell it was. Like it was Beggleton with the lemonade stand where he buys out the kid.

It's very good. They're doing a great job. The stampede eats from the exhibition there the other day, the board's trending the huff burgers love it no ones are doing good work down there we'll see it tomorrow night 7 p.m. oh here the odds too look at this bombers heavy favorites got them right where you want them Dave three and a half's the line total of 51 all right might see those in our bet three six five bets of the day tomorrow nice we're working tomorrow you're taking some intense to most time you want you get a swim cop I get it

Thursday. Yeah. And so you are or not coming because just people have to pull out the curtain, I asked Red on Friday. Now, here's what they're doing about two weeks ago. Well,

that's true. And then I circled back on Friday. I answered. I answered. And I texted him again. And they said, yeah, I don't know.

I was it. Well, when are you going to know? Thursday. Why wouldn't you come, Brett? I've got a lot of options in my life, Jack. I've also got a lot of people that rely on me.

For sustenance. sustenance jeez what are you talking about he just buckled boom just spat it everywhere sustenance yes

go full screen up I'm taking a sip of coffee hit me with sustenance so I'm trying to finagle the way to get both things accomplished oh that would be a jangle the sustenance and the stampede ball it was just you

I'll keep this. I heard you're swimming in my like yesterday, Jack. Oh. No, I wasn't. I didn't get the invite. That's why we were calling. I lived on Madison. I never locked my door.

I'm from a small town. The doors don't lock. All right. Hit her so my fucker's still my dragon sandals. Oh, sandals. It sucks. Sorry, now it's so tough in the Pinderport to figure out what's real and what's not.

Uh-huh. Do you remember fighting Todd? Let's check it out here. Let's go to the tape here. Passed up to the neutral zone. Temperes are flaring and these two are ready to go. And it looks like we have a couple of willing combatants now. This is 05, Rhett.

Do you remember this tilt with Todd Bertuzzi? Big Bert is a strong guy. He's a hulking film. Oh, you lost your helmet. Gretzer's looking sharp there. You're not using your reach. Oh. Oh.

By birth, jeez. Why would you show that? Well, I don't have to say I or not. I'm just just, turn. And now Jack's replaying. Yeah, Jack's got the replay. You know what? These guys are asked.

Can we go to the whiteboard? Let's get the whiteboard out here. I can't wait to go to the game with you tomorrow. It would be so awesome. Here we go. Now, let's break this thing down. So what did he say? How did you know this thing was on?

Bert, always been mad at me in my whole career. Who dropped the first story, Jack? I would always get Bert on a face off. on the light laces every time yeah see look at this red's coming into initiate no he was cheap of the butt in there the chatting all right let's go there was one thing i would never do is square off i know everyone's love this is the whiteboard what rat walking through this you lost your helmet what are you doing it's fake ryan i can't walk you through it it's just pretend a hi always gives me man that is my chin if you do very realistic yeah even back in o five is that what you're

saying? You're a daredevil rat. Are you in or out on this one? This is a new I hadn't seen this one before. Cedines, cheering. As well. So it looks like something sort of stampede ride with the This is like a launcher.

I did not see that cliff though and that Oh my goodness. Oh yeah, of course the parachute just opened in time. Yeah? It's the eight front flips off the catapult. I was jumping off a bridge, 14 feet.

yesterday that's enough for me 14s feels happening in your life right now you're too old for this shit no this is great don't you go dying on me these are feats of strength you got you're gonna show the family that you're still brave you're the alpha yeah because I got to provide sustenance right yeah do they are they all aware how to dial 9-1-1 in the event I've said the panel D and R Dean D&R do not have off get away it's been a good run you used to say in the old shop if i ever go down if any of you mf is trying to say yeah do not like that was a temptation by any of like i know you're going to want to do some most of them get out of here had a good run

the over's already paid finally there's the florida man games you've heard of the olympics you've heard of all panthers in this so here's what it is they win everything any floridian can sign up for the games and one of the events is outrunning an actual police officer who they have an outfit and it placed obstacles in front of it. Let's see how Florida man does. You've got to steal something. Yes. That's the other Brett Michaels, I think.

So, all right, you got all these different guys. You've got to steal something. The cop chases you. And then you got all kinds of different hurdles, fences, tires. Cops are trading their hardest here to get you. It's a chick. Yeah, Florida man. Florida woman.

It's going to be choosy. Anyway, it's just, you know. I was pretty limber. I didn't think that guy was going to. Good hops. It's a regional dialect this sport. You don't find this else. It would be running from police.

It feels like the thieves are doing a lot of women here. This is what I've been telling you you should be showing is sports. And that is very good. Yeah, this is the content we need. The Florida Man Olympics. Good stuff. There's got to be some sort of jumping on the gators back to cross the river event too. Oh, right of hip.

Hips. They got him. Cop got him. Cough him. Cough him. Buck him, Dan. Oh, but is that a catalytic conversant. murder that's what they're stealing for the fucking that's tremendous we have to do this

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Uh, is it DJ Fatti today? DJ Fattie. Oh, I was bragging about that yesterday. I was saying to the crew, we should go down. Go to Greta? Yeah. I think it was Canada. They was, uh, it was yesterday.

That was Hayden. I thought that the Monday night Hayden, Monday was a day, DJ Faddy. Is that what it was? Well, they got so much going on. It's hard to keep straight. They got the live Vegas cover band this weekend. They're going to get a lot of,

you're going to start to see the bales of hay and the hats and the boots and the denim coming in in great regularity. Should we? You're a cowboy. Oh, yeah. I am. Some Bronx and a real, real cowboy. That's me.

That's why you're leaving town. That's not swing. I have to town. Sorry, Yeah, shoot, we beat. DJ Faddy. He might be wrapping up a set right now. Who knows?

DJ Faddy. They're ripping it up to him. They are ripping it up. Get to Greta. Got a favorite game. What are he hitting first? Golden T. Go with some Mortal Kombat Street Fighter.

Mario Kart. It's a very good question. I'm not prepared to answer. You're not going to back me into that corner. You got a buck hunter. You like that one? I'm not going to wait in line. If it's backed up somewhere,

I'm going to move on. Lots of options. They're all good. credits I like that NBA jam tournament edition he's on fire that's right it's a banger that's right I am good old Greta

I was like Charlotte in that TV Larry Johnson wants a morning mugsby boggs is like five foot nothing he's buzzing around that's right launching threes sorry I didn't answer phone call Monday yeah I just want we did the same thing because it was noodle's birthday so we just called him and talked to him and he

He's like you. He's going to get some heart thing. It was a big story. Anyway, he was, uh, insurance insurance. He's like, it's my 15th insurance policy and some lazy nurse. Yeah.

He said, I got a bad ticket. I got to get this heart thing done. So he needed to move to Thursday. And I'm like, well, we had already talked to Dreger because he can't, we're not doing Friday.

He's going to go Thursday. Oh, okay. So then I texted Dreger. Are you okay to move to Wednesday? He's like, yeah, actually that's better for me.

Perfect. Like, like, but make it seem like you're doing a huge favor for Jamie and it's a big inconvenience. Work a stake out of this. It's like, yeah, I'll do that. I guess I'll go to Wednesday because you can't do it.

That crew has some fun. I think they do. I love that story about the one time in their lives where they had ultimate leverage over their bosses and completely raked them over the coals. That makes me happy. It happens very rarely, but it can happen. I'm about to do it. Yeah, good. That's like the

Rasmus Sanders. It's been a nice ride. That's what Rasmus is saying. I got one chance to pull the wool. over these stupid GMs. I'm mad at Raspus Anderson. You're so pro team right now. It's hilarious. No, I'm not. I'm pro old school hockey because that's what

people love and respect about it is when the playoffs started. Look at these fuckers battle and they'll go through the wall to do it. And then all of a sudden, we can't have dress codes and we can't have this. And you ride on this bus because we're scared of this. Oh, what about the omelet and the egg white? Enough

catering to these. And then if you question anything about it i quit done my you can't talk to me during the year what what i think what you're saying sign autographs because it's it's too we do a autographs signing day but not really to the kids we're going to get them all pre-signed and we'll hand it out as we what what are you talking about i agree that everything you're saying part of the shit that required out of you my point i'm getting they're getting too soft i agree i don't think rasmus is one of them though shit why isn't he go to l a

and prove up good yard what if he doesn't want to play in lather for that's nine year one year he don't want to stay here he's not blocking a trade to l a one year he's not going to extend with him which is what l a say well you're not getting the big deal he's not blocking a trade to l a he's blocked trades to ottawa columbus he is a 16 no trade those two are likely on or

i'm not a distraction at all i'm a great guy i love the flames but i'm going to fucking leave okay now that said he might be blocking a one year. We don't know. But if it is, hey, Rasmus, we've been talking with L.A. They want to do a deal, but it's contingent on you doing

an extension. Would you do an eight-year extension with the Kings? I think it's within his right to say no. Or just say maybe, but I'm not really to commit right now. It's like I, when do you need to know today? And I don't, I haven't even thought about other markets.

But that. Both can be true. Yeah. And again, his only chance of free agency his whole career. How much more is free agency going to get Rasmus Anderson? It's not about how much more. It's he gets to choose which market. Free agency, you could choose to play wherever you want.

You can take less and go here. You could take more and go there. You can choose a winner. You could choose a quiet market. You could choose good weather. You could choose to be in the eye of the storm. The whole take I have is that these guys are too soft. I think he's one of them.

I don't. But I respect. that you know, you could feel that way. It's an honor and a rights to play in the NHO. And I guess I'm assuming that L.A. is paying him free agent money. I don't think L.A. is going in saying here's six. Right. And we don't know that. I don't think the flames have allowed other teams to negotiate with him.

But if he was open to signing with them, then they can have that discussion. And then a roundabout way we get a deal done. There's so much here that we don't know. Correct. That gets into, well, how much was it going to get paid? Well, what was the extension? Was it eight years? Was it how much was it?

Was it the only go to Vegas without no one? It's hard to know. And I think there's a really good chance that this gets resolution. I do. I think this, if nothing else, I think it's a distraction. This might be a little bit of a sign to everybody. Get it done. Getting into the season and pretending this isn't a thing is probably not the best idea.

Kind of what you said a while back. Probably getting a deal done. No animosity is going to be. It looks like Adams is having to deal with it. And the thing about him is he's a bit of a prickly guy and you like that about him because he gives a shit. Yeah. But he will tire of that.

And, you know, he's kind of an outspoken guy. That's not going to sit well with him being asked, as Dregor said, going from town to town. So a contractor. What do you thought? Is he hanging over your head? He will not have a lot of time for that. And so what I think you do if you're, Conroy, is you get the.

best deal you can get for him as a rental. This is what I'm, sorry, I'm jumping on you, but I know what you're just going to say. But this is part of the problem is that I'm biased that I want the flames to be better off in this situation and he's not allowing. Well, and they could have done that if they traded him at the deadline this year. That will be the learning experience that's going. Assuming there were deals to be had.

Well, there were some dusters and went for second rounders. Like you, you were top four defense. It irks me because I believe what Drager, if Drager's alluding that L.A. was giving up a lot. An eye opener? Yeah. And now we're going to get, oh, a second and a third and Tom Dick and right. It's a first and a prospect

versus a huge package. If he trades him and comes out and says, yeah, we got a second rounder for Rasmus, but they get him for two postseason runs and then we don't need to worry, but people would be furious. Yeah, but we saw the deals of the deadline this year.

It was a very nice seller's market. defensemen of I know. So two years ago He said dusters went for a second It's like well what if you got a second Well you wouldn't be happy with that I mean you don't

My point is that he's not a dust But you don't know what No but we thought Hanifin and all those other Yeah and it turned out not to be a great sellers It's like the flames are going to trade for Farabian Frost that's terrible Oh well what was it for

That's not a terrible deal Like unless you know what the price is You can't You can't say whether it's good or bad Oh you should have traded them then Well what if the offers were shit well how could they be we don't know no but we you can look at the trades happening the deadline and see what top for defensemen went for it that had one year last year's an indicator of this year it's not it's not that's my whole point is you don't know what it's going to be this deadline it looks like a season where everyone's trying to get better but people are going to get off the bad starts and guys that weren't going to be available will become available two years ago it wasn't a great sellers market when they tried to get a ton for but wasn't it not a great sales market because of these types of situations and should we have learned from it.

Hanifin to me was not a... Yeah, this year was a year that we thought about, could they move Rasmus? It was a conversation all year. And they were so close to the playoffs, they said, nah, you know what? We can always do it next year. When you look at what teams were getting

in those two, three days leading up to the deadline for Rasmus-type players, it was considerably more than what the market was bearing the year prior, and we don't know what that market will be this year. What we know is that that was a really good seller's market, and they chose to hold the asset. How many of them had two years left? We just assume this is better for the teams because you're getting two.

Not every team's going to want to. At 4.55. And you could have eaten the two and a half this year to make it even cheaper to make it a non-issue at all. Like if you're worried that two years of them was a bad idea, not at that number. And you could have lowered that. Yeah. I just try and look at, you know, you just try and see, especially in here. They didn't do it because they didn't want to send a message to the rest of the team that were throwing in the towel on the season.

and okay, but now you're in a shit spot. It's a more tricky spot, but it doesn't mean they can't salvage this. No. A lot of teams that wanted somebody and you, but I probably, that's what got my, irked me the most, is Drayerson. They had a hell of a deal with L.A. Yeah, yeah. I don't think they're over a barrel by Rasmus Anderson,

but my fear is when this deal gets done, it is going to be underwhelming. it is going to be less than... And to be fair, that's been your fear on every guy that they've sold for the last three years. So where has he been wrong? So, no, I think he's wrong on Linholm for sure. Wrong on Markstrom. Those deals both look very good.

But you would be right on Tannav. Hanofin will see where the pick is, but it probably looks like it's a little light. Zedorov, I think you took less to get them the hell out of the room. You could have got more from it, the deadline. But is that, you know, you can call it a win to get rid of the circus.

It's been a very mixed bag, like most GMs are. But you've worried about selling every guy. You're worried about everything is that it's not going to go. So do you think they're getting a first and a prospect and? Yes. Okay. For a rental.

Yep, just like that it would lend home. And so you think the first of prospect or whatever else was for a rental player and they were going to get more if they could do a sign and trade? I don't know what sign and trade stuff. But I think they get more than that with the LADL that was. Boy, I'd love to know what that was. Yes.

I've heard some names. but I think there's a very highly touted net miner in the system. They have a lot of good goalies. One was certainly dangled is what I was told. I mean, you need good players and assets or assets. But yeah, I mean, they don't have. If you trade Rasmus of the big chip going back. No, it would be a first plus that guy plus a prospect, plus a roster play, whatever.

But I don't think to look at the Lindholm deal as a template is crazy. Because it wasn't like Linham was having a lights out year. Walk me through how the Lindholm deal is so good. Okay, well, they got a first rounder. Don't talk again. Some of your smarm gets too far. So you can just tell me. I'm not an asshole for asking.

So I will remind you what the package was that they got. They got a first rounder, which they turned in, I believe, to Gridden. Okay. They have Yerty, Yermo, who's a C prospect that's not really a thing. A fourth rounder. Me, we'll see. Might be one of the good players they had in two years ago. goes draft that you know is tracking better than a fourth round or should they got the kuzmenko

asset that looked very good here that they somehow through a lot of other assets had parlayed into the fairby frost uh like that's five pieces yeah but five and bristavich and brisdavish excuse me the top prospect the deal who is their second best prospect in the organization according to many behind only perak so for two months of lindholm we didn't even play well in Vancouver, that's a hall. If anyone wants to call that trade a loss, they're just, they're not understanding. No one's calling it a loss. No, but I do hear that else.

But it can become a law. Like, you're still assuming grid. And I'm not trying to say he's not going to be good for it. No, and I'm not saying he's going to be a star either, but you're still talking about maybe. It's a lot of lottery tickets for two months of Linoma wasn't good. And that's a good trade. Because you don't, you never know that a prospect's going to make it or not.

It's always a prospect. But if you can get more prospects and higher end prospects and more picks and more picks and higher picks, there's a better probability than working out. So that deal gave you five cuts at NHL players. One was already a player in Kuzmanko. If we had a better year, you could have turned into more. That was a salary dump, though.

That was the flames doing the... That's the flames doing Vancouver a favor in that trade. That is not... And then he scores a goal every other game when he gets here and you're like, you might be able to trade this guy for you. Sure. But remember, again, you're framing this. At the time, that was not a, hey, and they got Kuzmenko, which is awesome. It's a, he's making $5 million. It was, he scored 39

goals last year and he's not working under time you know what the there there was both sides stop spinning it you know what it was i'm telling what they got in the deal you know what it was i go just signed a 4.3 million dollar deal for one i understand but you're like crazy you're you're a big fan of this deal just remember that when it went down because meiko that was not a and they got this guy that scored 39 it was well he scored 39 you had to take the money to make it work but it's money that's a nice bit of money to take because you could have turned him into another asset and you kind of did that you got the Frost Fairby because he was a part of that. Wow, but you're still not sold on Frost and Farabby.

What are they? No, but at least they're younger and they fit your age scheme and you know, Frost. I'm not looking to shit on that deal because it was a good deal. Thank you. That's all I'm asking for you to acknowledge. But Tanna was late. They wanted a first. They didn't stick to their guns and they moved them early. And he also went down the tunnel eight times. It was a tough one. But like it's safe to say you're not dealing with, you know, Bill Zito. It's a first time GM. And Tiener aren't going to just hand over what he asked for right away. If Brian Burke's rule was you set a price and you don't move till you get it,

well, he moved on Tannum. He asked for a first. He didn't get it. He moved them anyway. And he moved them early. But the flip side is that time early, but it was a week, whatever. But not like if you trade Anderson now. Right.

Not that type of order. But the Lindholm deal is a win and the Markstrom deal is a win. Markstrom had a just okay year. Jake Allen was better than him down the stretch. Dustin Wolf's way better. You get another first, which you turn into, the kid they drafted out of Victoria, Cole Reschney. Like, that's a great deal.

And you got Kevin Ball. Are you kidding me? That's phenomenal trade. Well, right. For two years of Markstrom. But at the time, it was, well, Kevin Ball, as he was in that trade, it's, at first, it may end up being a very good deal, yeah. I think it's already, yeah.

It's just, if you turn two years of Jacob Markstrom into a top 4D. and a first rounder, I think that's a good try. I've decided that the reason I'm grumpy about it is just of what Drager was alluding to. And we don't know what the L.A. was offer was. And so your fear is that if L.A. was making a real sweetheart deal with you and you couldn't get it done because Rasmus wouldn't go, then you're like, it's more frustration.

I agree. It is that for sure. And here's the thing. Rasmus would have been willing to go to L.A., but like, look, I can't commit to an extension, guys. I haven't even thought about an extent. I've been thinking about free agency for the last four years. I think you're overplaying that.

I'm just saying we don't know. We don't know. I'm giving you my thoughts as a former. I don't know. Free agency is tempting and all this and that. But they, I don't think anyone goes into free agencies and has their socks knocked off. Do you know what I mean?

Like if you're ever trading for someone, you're kind of like, well, it should be in this range, right? And if you're going to free agency, you're not going to, you might make more money, but it's not something that the guys haven't considered. Do you know what I mean? Like he's not going to be, oh, I went to free agency. It's just, oh my God.

Yeah, there's another 60. Yeah, it's not the money. I wonder what it was, is it proximity to Sweden? What would it have been that Anderson would have, because you think a lot of players be like, shit shells. Yeah, or maybe he's just saying, I'm a year out.

I'm not ready to commit for my next nine years. But I think probably, that's what I'm saying. might play in LA, but I'm not ready to sign an extension yet. But if you took 10 players and we're going to trade them to L.A., how many would say, ooh, I don't know. Well, he didn't nix the trade, though. He next to an eight-year extension, essentially, right?

Right, but it's. I think a lot of guys would be I'm not ready yet. I think it's one and the same. I think you're just trying to argue that. That's fine. But again, we're assuming, I'm assuming that the number that L.A. was willing to pay him was basically a free agent number. Yeah, and judging by what Ken Holland spent, Yesterday it probably would.

Yeah. Like, because you've spent $9 million on two. So if Rasmus thinks that a year from today, I've got a what, $70 million contract over? Is it $75? Is it $8?

I don't think L.A. was offering them a $50 million. I agree. Is it seven times seven? What a year? I don't think so. I don't know. Yeah. And look,

I think when you were 29, do you remember where you were in your career? Yeah. You probably just knew here? First couple years. We'd just gone on the finals and we had a lockout. Okay. So at that point of your career, you'd have a real good idea of markets you'd like to play

in places that, you know what, I'm good. Yeah. And probably a bunch in the middle where you're like, yeah, under the right circumstance, I'd go there. But all of a sudden, when you're trying to tie in, like, sign in a year early, you might have not even, you know, thought about who's on the team, who do I know? Like, the team's asking right away to say, hey, will you sign eight years here? He's like, I'm just going on summer vacation.

Like, can I get back to in September? Is that, is that possible that this has happened here? I feel, if it were me and I've never, I feel like I'll sit down and I'll get to an situational awareness of what's going on and your agent should too. I mean, I understand your thought, but I think you're overplaying that. It might not have happened about. I need to be free and be able to choose. Like, you're not visiting colleges.

No, and it's not even that. It's just that, geez, like, Rasmus, I'm your agent here. You have your pick of the litter in a sense. Like, where do you want to go? Well, I like L.A., but it's not my top three. Well, like, and the other thing is, go ahead and be Klingberg then. Like, you have there, there is the risk of that. Go break your leg.

Yeah. Oh, throw a hair phone, right? Like, it's, I'm not wishing or I'm just, you don't knowing the money. Yeah. Like, oh, you didn't want to go to L.A. And make $70 million and you broke your hip. Ooh. This is, you're a free agent.

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heart like it's brett hart happy birthday happy birthday best podcast you three are awesome this guy's Look at the brand. Yeah. These guys bang on. These guys bang on. Thoughts on Conroy, taking a more patient approach through agency. I don't think Conroy was taking a patient approach.

I think that nobody was phoning him back. There's no deals yesterday. You want the flames to be taken on. No. Yeah. It's the right move. I would, it's the right move.

I think if Anderson's moving out, and I would continue to explore options of deleting guys off the roster as opposed to. Keep getting younger. Sure. Thanks, Brandon. appreciate that. That's our one. We got more.

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in win now mode and shop Huberto if he waves his no move, Kalaas. I think Kaudry's the name that it probably makes more sense there. I don't think Huberto is an asset that people want.

this point based on his salary and the commitment long and you can't eat salary with his it's too long it's too long it's uh what six years left on that oh yeah it's too long it's too much and on the player side it's not enough he's yeah and it's all signing bonuses so you can't buy it out there's that too so if it goes sideways you're kind of stuck with it yeah damn's true thanks arby uh j doll is rasmus is dead to me oh Don't throw in a towel yet. It's a living. Early J. Delmuse.

A rental market is, don't listen to me. I was grumpy earlier. Probably the rental market isn't the end of the world. Luckily though, you've turned it around. Yeah.

Because you're great spirits now. Positive. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just pumped. We get to work tomorrow. That's what's raising my spirits. You were the one lobbying to do shows.

When? Last week. Hey, I'm around. We should. Are we not doing shows? should do shows. How about shows? That was before the big,

the great swim meet. Oh, yeah. Took a lot of wind out of them. It's really slowed down. Before the Bonavista 500. That's right. Yeah,

I've been working on my individual medley. I'm going to have to call it for this week. I'm sure Cooney feels as shitty today. Wow. He should. Yeah. We should feel worse because he gets like, like his body's feeling better,

but he's got his ass kicked. Yeah. And he had to do some of the swim. And he's getting called out on. Yeah. A great podcast by a great podcast. That is true. Well, respected.

Yeah, very well respected. Well, don't lose hope. So, yeah, don't. Word of the day. Don't be mad at Rasmus. Don't be mad at Craig. It's all going to play out. It's all going to happen.

It's very early. Things happen for a reason. God, I might see those guys tomorrow. They'll be yelling at me. Puts. Nah. You were great today. Was I?

Yeah. Jay McNeil is really good, too. Yeah. Get those tickets. Yeah, I wouldn't do any arm wrestling or anything. No, no swim meets. He's very strong man. Yeah.

Yeah. He's, uh, he spent 14 years on an offensive line. Does it make us like when we see a fellow like that? Yeah. Do you do some self evaluating or just just about everybody I see. Yeah. Yeah. Jay McNeil or pretty much any human I see on the sidewalk or in life.

It's like, I've made some bad choices. Jay played O-line? Yes, dude. What a beast. Yes. There's a few guys that do that and they just stay, gargantuan other guys lean the hell out and get in deadly shape and it's crazy to see how you can transform your body and play it like 280 and then trim down to like 220 you're like what the human

body can do that you guys are maniacs just do a lot of eating that's the tact i've taken yeah you've got the one can you uh bench press an accord like j can it's got me on this hugely successful podcast ah hey j's the president of the cfl team What does your daughter call you? I can't park and Mardaloupe. That's going to become an issue to the bastards. Once this is all finished, they're going to start charging for parking around here.

Yeah. Oh, I wouldn't worry about this getting finished anytime soon. We will be out of here before. It's a 2027 problem. Yeah, because what's the lease? One more year?

Oh, man. Yeah, I think two more years. What the fuck? Doing change. Yeah, when it finishes, then we'll be up and gone. We'll be finished by then. Yeah. All right.

Well, tomorrow is Thursday. We'll tell you where Nick Eelers is playing, I bet. Probably. Any thoughts? Carolina's got the space. I think, Anna and San Jose are really going to start pushing things forward here. And they got cap space with the younger.

What do you like, Nick? I'm not thinking it's one to pick. Doesn't feel like it. Are they done with him or is he done with them? I think they really made a hard push to get him. But it's done a lot of good time. in Winnipeg. He's ready to spread his wings elsewhere. Yeah. He's had a lot of the

steak Oscar at Ray and Jerry's. Yeah, he's done a lot of fishing. He doesn't need more fishing right now. He's ready for something new, maybe. All right. Just like us. Just like us. Not done a lot of fishing. Jack Howl's the show today.

Great show. Yeah? Cool trophy. Was it heavy? It was really heavy. Did they let you pick that up? I gave a little tug on it. It was, uh. Stop talking. Jesus. See it, buddy.