Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Friday Morning With Darren Dreger | FN Barn Burner - November 3rd, 2023

Episode Date: November 3, 2023

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Hello, people. Welcome to Barnburner on your Friday. Boomer Pinder Warner here as the, it's a weird, it's not a game day. Hasn't been a game day. We need a game day. When's a game day? A lot of games. They had the road trip and then they played twice in the three days after they got home.

And then it's been waiting for the outdoor game, recovering from the outdoor game, waiting to get to Seattle. It's like four games in like two weeks. How's a shoveler? She's annoying me, but she's good. Is she? Yeah. Is she offering coffees or? I'm a little parched.

Are you? And some fluids. I need to wet your whistle. Are you going to put her on waivers to send a message to the family? Not yet. Just venture for a row. Venture for a one. Yeah, on the bench.

Just sitting. And you know what? Take a look in the mirror. Take a long, hard look in the mirror and figure it out. So Jordan Austerly, that was the, the veteran? Well, I mean, you're going to send a message? If Jordan Austin can get set down, like, no one can feel safe.

So clearly, the message has been sent and people are trembling in their stalls wondering who could be next. If the eighth defenseman can get sent down, it could be anyone. Talk about eggshells, am I right? Don't imagine. I wouldn't feel comfortable. You can go into the rink. I would avoid the rink at all costs.

I don't want to be seen. Yeah. I think probably it's more to do with keeping a young guy named Connors. Sarah around. I think that's probably, I don't necessarily think that two are linked, but if you want to make that connection, I guess you could. They are or they aren't linked. What do you send? That the message about sending a veteran, putting a veteran on waivers to send a message while we put to send a message in, I don't think that it was austerely. I think this is just about keeping Syria around. Yeah. Another transaction today as well. So it's, it's busy. It's transaction time for

for Connie and company. Oh, yeah. You're up to speed. Huh? You're up to speed? Am I up to speed? Yeah. Sure. Are you up to speed? Well, I mean, we were mentioning transactions.

The news of the day. Go ahead. Fire away. Maths Coronado is going to the American League. He's going to play at 1 p.m. this afternoon as the Wranglers host the Barracuda at Saddle Dome. Oh, that's okay. It's okay. All right.

We said it the other day, two weeks in the A, it would not be the worst thing for this kid. You're centering your fourth line. he played with every single forward on the roster of sub one. It, uh, yeah, go play. Go play top line minutes, kid. Guys got to play. Except that means he's not producing at this level. And we really need him to.

Yeah, but either is anyone else. You know, if you want to look around the locker room and say, everyone in here is that a 40 goal clip, except for you, kid, grab your shit and head down the hallway because, uh, you're dragging the boys down. down here. I don't know if that's the way I would sell it, but okay. That is a, you know what, it's a good approach. There's no sense getting down. You're all terrible. So there's no sense being here. Those are the Steinberg lines from practice. Yes, that is fresh from minutes ago.

And also in there, Marty Pospisole has been called up from the American League. He's had an injury riddled three years. But is a lot of it. a pain in the ass player with a bit of skill. I like what he's doing here, Conroy. He's trying to mix those young guys in, get it a little bit of life. I don't mind that at all. Yeah. So you'll have Coronado playing today with the Wranglers,

potentially Pospisle making an NHL debut tomorrow with the Flames. There you go. I know they like Pospisal aside from the injuries because he can be a bit of a bull in a China shop. He's got a physical edge to him. I don't know how much office is. ability there is, but they like with the bit of stink in his game. And I think we're all on board with it. Yeah. I would say we don't

score, like we just said, nobody's scoring anyway, so we might as well have some piss and vinegar. P and V, baby. Yeah, what is he 216 penalty minutes in just over 100 HL games? Like he's he's a burr under the saddle. Yeah, it's not one of those guys that's

dropping the gloves at heavyweight tilt, I don't think, although I probably would scrap a bit, but he's a pain to play against. We don't have a lot. He's going to run around. Going to run around, indeed. He's going to run around. Got to happen to line up.

Make it happen. Pospisal. Let's go. Make a statement. Anything's more on the anything's possible. Was it nothing's impossible or anything is possible? What did Kevin Durant? I think it was anything as Pospisal. Anything is Pospisal.

Yeah. That's the way I recall. Imposipal is nothing. Mission Impososal. Great series. What was your favorite? Probably. Really was good, I think.

Mission Impossible. The one was suspended by the cable? I don't like them all. I'd like to go start to finish and just kind of relive the entire catalog. I didn't like the one where they had the motorbike fight. The end, do you remember that? A little too far-fetched? A little too far-fetched, yeah.

Yeah. I feel like that'd be a great description for the whole series. Yeah. No. That crazy bastard does. all his own stuff though. Hey, he's hanging off the side of planes and they showed the clip where the one where he's like, he's running and then jumps from building to building and comes short. And the front of his foot like hits the building and snaps up like broke his ankle. Really?

During the filming of this and gets up and continues to finish like continues to run and finish the scene with a broken ankle. I mean, he's batshit crazy, but he's committed to his craft. It's your hero. Yeah, he's Short King. I'll tell you what. I need to go back and watch the Top Gun again.

The Top Gun. Top Gun. Yeah, we did the Maverick or the original. Sorry, which one do you need to see again? I like Jennifer Collin. So, too. Yeah.

Sign up for that. I just like they kept trotting out all the old. It's like, oh, there's the bike. There's the helmet. There's the jacket. It's like, yeah. There's the song they sing. There's the song.

There's Goose's kids. all that. Goose's kid could take a, I mean, he could chill out a little bit. Pretty. It's wrong tight team. Been through some shit.

Yeah, your dad's dead, but it's not like, it's not like Maverick shot him in the head. I mean, it was like, Christ, they were buddies. Didn't cost you your chance. He did,

he promised his your mom that he wasn't going to let you do something, made it promise to your mom. Yeah. Figure it out. Dummy. Mm. So this is what the shows are going to be now that we can't talk about the hockey team anymore.

I think that this, I think they're finding some things here. I think the schedule is horseship. That too. Yeah. I agree. It's, it was so busy every other day for two weeks. And now it's like waiting around, twiddling your thumbs. It's the hardest part.

They're waiting. Hardest part. Love meat, love. Darren, coming up in probably about 10 minutes. I'm going to do a little something here. It's kind of, it's for McLeod law, it's the injury report. Except it's not really the injury report, but it goes to show you what can happen when there isn't an injury to report.

Clear? It'll probably clear when you're done. All right. Let's start off. I wanted to remember we had that meeting at McLeod? Brett, you weren't there, but Shane was in that meeting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Things are going so good with, you know, with Peter Klein and McLeodlaw and all this.

Shane was like, I need some love. How do I, how do I get involved? I'm kind of jealous. I got some FOMO over here. Yes, right. You know, I need a little bit of this barn burner karma. Give me some of that. Look at Shane here.

Look at, we got a little thing. Shane's part of, hey, Shane, you're part of the family, bud. Welcome in. You're part of what we're doing here. Look at the grin on this guy. I believe in cost benefit analysis. So the most cost effective outcome is achieved by my client's cases. Shane King, McLeodlaw.

Shano. Welcome to the party, pal. There's Shane King. just one of many highly successful, great people over at McLeod Law. They just keep bringing them through. We sit there in their beautiful boardroom. More and more and more people come in. It's like, you're very smart and you're accomplished.

You're very successful in your field. And you're a good. And you're a good person. And you kind of like what we're doing, which again, not sure about that part. Not sure. Not sure about that part. But there he is, Shane King.

It's part of everything over there. They got go to McLeoddashlaw.com. Whatever it is, whatever your legal situation is, they have the best of the best and good people to help you. I believe employment law is where he's spending a lot of his time. So get some people screwing you. It's your job. That's right.

Go talk to the king. You bring in the king. You're getting the GD run around by the man. That's right. Get that beautiful bastard on your side. Get the king working for you. Chop them down. That's right.

I like those scan codes that they have. You are code? QR or whatever, yeah, because I just lose that. All right, so the injury report, here's what we're going to do for you. When you're on the injury report, life's tough. When you're on it often, it's hard to perform at your best. Yeah. What happens when you stay off the injury report, man?

Let's take a look at what's possible. Possible. He got a good. Sean Monaghan. Goals in four straight. Manahann. He's on his launch.

Sean Monaghan. Sean Monaghan. Goals in four straight games, nine points in ten games to start the season. On this day and yesterday's history. Unbelievable, men. I'm happy. play. I'm happy for him too.

Yeah, and you hope he stays healthy because he didn't look bad there out of the gates last year either. And then it was, I believe he was on the shelf by what Christmas and the new year. So yeah. He was kind of talking about how, you know, his wife has to deal with him. That it's one thing you're at the rink or you're, he's at home miserable all the time. And that's. So he'd be trying to stay in the game and stay healthy and contribute for the team and do whatever he could. and his wife is saying you're hurt.

It's okay to be hurt. People get hurt in your line of work. And he's so vocal, that big personality. I mean, exactly. So just jabber your ear off. Loan is top off at home.

Almost the point per game. I'm really upset. I sure wish I was playing hockey rather than not playing hockey. I bet though, I mean, when you are that kind of guy, there's got to be some, you're letting off steam somewhere.

It's probably at home. throwing pots of pans around the kitchen smashing shit i have a stress ball i squeeze in my fist when i'm frustrated it helps stay away from my rv that's good for moni good for him indeed good for him stay off the injury report still can play the game retro still got it he does have it he always had the shot could always shoot it except when his wrists was hurt yeah yeah when his wrists are like hanging on by sinew and string That's right. They had that like that piece of of the, the fence that they put there and there and they tied it and that was like, you'll hold it. Yeah, I got some zip ties. From that time, you could really shoot it all those other times. McLeod Law, injury lawyers, business. Again, whatever it is, are you getting divorced?

I mean, for starters, congratulations. But you're going to be a lawyer for that. Oh, Dean? Congratulations on what? Cut your pilot off? Come on now. No, no. I don't get having the best in the business in in terms of law advice on your side. Family law, employment law, injury law. All right. Are you, are you a entrepreneur? Yeah, there's lots of. Are you injured? Do you have a business?

You got a marriage? You got it, whatever it is. You're getting screwed by an insurance company? You're getting the old runaround? Huh? McLeod Law, they're proud of their Calgary roots, big part of their longstanding client relationships. They get this city, the people in it,

and the way that things work. Like the communities that they serve, McLeod Law team is varied and diverse and share a commitment to making a positive impact on Calgary. MacLeodlaw, MacLeod-dashlaw.com. So, Dean, like, if you were getting cease and desist from your former employer, these would be good people to talk to. I go right to McLeod Law.

Okay. What's that fat redhead sending me letters for? Fucker was buying me lobster rolls a year ago. Now he's sending me cease and desist letters. Fuck that guy. Too close to homes. I don't know. You're talking about market cap.

$20 billion? Yep, we're probably a big problem for you, aren't we? Yeah, you're really, sorry to take such a dent out of your fucking bottom line, pal. Anyway, talk to the club. I get that straight note. Maybe you'll have some lobster rolls when you come with us down to, it's not really lobster roll territory. How's the seafood in Phoenix, Red?

They're good at importing, so it's fine. Okay, okay. What's the catch of the day? If we can get lobsters wheeled in on a plane to Calgary, we could probably do something in Phoenix, if that's where we're up for. Jan 11 to 13th, the barn burner vacation. We're going to Phoenix, Arizona, see the flames and the coyotes at the Mullet Arena. We've got your flights.

We got your hotels. We got your tickets. Transport has shown from and to the end to and from the, you know, the rink and all that. 1499 based on double occupancy. Go to nationgear.ca.com to book your spots. Spots are starting to roll. It's a good Christmas gift. If it's something, hey, you know what?

Hear about this rink down there. and the 4,500 small rink, NHL hockey in there. Crazy. Chaos. Come and see it for yourself. Well, I'm sure they'll be playing there for a decade. There can't be any rush dean. I'm sure the league loves having them.

No, no, no, because they're going to be in that brand new building in Tempe or Salt Lake, Atlanta. Something soon. Houston. Yeah. So definitely you want to get on that. We're going to go down in January. You get through the Christmas season. Yeah.

Now what have I got to look forward to? Well, how about lobster, rolls with Retro in Phoenix. It's not bad, right? We got some pals down there too. Comm is going to be down there. We know Darcy Hortichuk is becoming a pal of the show. It's all of a sudden we're going to have a network down there, Rhett.

You'll be running for Marin, no time. Beef tips. It's Houston. They are good. Don't wear your hat, though. What? No hats. Can't wear your hat. I'm not allowed in a place I got, am I? I'm not going with you. I'm growing a mullet for the Mullet arena, right? They're not letting me in that joint.

our barn burner vacation presented by Alberta blue cross there's only one thing better than sharing memories and that is making new ones Alberta blue cross travel insurance protects your memories and more wherever travel takes you visit AB dot blue cross dot CA slash travel for more information was I bit harsh because I kind of like the guy that you know and even if you were it's hard to go back after you say live on sending letters really what are we doing here I mean what the come on yeah really and accusing us for things that did not happen that's not cool it didn't happen no didn't happen anyway i didn't need that thousand bucks we spent there so we're good yeah that's fine thanks a lot thanks bud as before we had pals at mcclod law would have been leisure if it was happening a few months later oh imagine if we did though he says get all get all get all Shane King sick him on on big red I just want

why are you calling him big red yeah I don't know what's like a tomato he gets all red he gets all drunk and his face turns all pink he gets all red he's like a fucking tomato can of tomato soup what you dig up stupid no one knows who I'm talking about not dig up fuck that guy this is excellent look how good we're doing hey

yeah we got hoodies hey hey Talk about who looks like a tomato now. That's right. I'm big red now. Who looks fat and red now, huh? A couple of those. They'll have us back. They want us back any minute.

People in the comments just wondering, hey, do you love to hear that story? But I think we're good today. It's a little hot. A little hot. That hat and the hoodie combo looks good. That hat just popping right now. Doesn't pop.

Yeah. Well, just wait because I'm going to have a, There's going to be a, what do you call it, a wardrobe change somewhere through the show today. Really? Oh, good. Well, it's Hawaiian T-shirt, Dad. That's right. Hawaiian shirt day.

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Dreg's how are we doing, bud? You know, I'm playing injured this week. I mean, I'm old enough to disclose this and I'm equally embarrassed. I hurt myself sleeping on Wednesday night. I don't know if that's ever happened to you guys. Have you been there? The neck or?

Yeah, right shoulder, neck. I mean, you know, I'd probably watch a hockey game. It's no good. I can't tell my minute. I'd have to look at. Oh, there you are. High. Oh, that's pretty good.

Yeah, exactly. And you start doing the checklist. It's like, so what was I doing? What could I possibly? And then it's really sad when you get to the end. It must have been in bed when I was asleep. I knew what happened, man. I, you know, I had the, the pillows stacked up, was propped up, was watching a hockey game,

whenever fell asleep, woke up at like three in the morning, like disjointed and blessed that's probably not going to work in the morning. Can I stand score enough to keep you up? Come on now. No. Well, this is going back. This is again, indication of age and body breaking down.

This happened Wednesday. And I'm still like a pretzel. Oh, yeah. But I'm stubborn enough. I'm not like I'm not getting medical care. I'm not going for Cairo or any of that stuff. It's going to work yourself. You know why?

Because you're a man. You're a man, right? You're a man, right? that's why. No, I haven't even told the guys, because you talk about embarrassing. I've been dealing with this friggin gout off and on for a few months now, and it's a bugger. That's old man stuff right. And it's like another step. I didn't even tell the guys.

This is the first time they're hearing it. I got it my elbow this week. Oh, Dean. My elbow had the big, like, gross thing. Oh, you go to even just stretch your arm. Oh, oh, damn. ow what'd you do i just straighten my arm it's not no big deal don't worry about me what causes that like booze tubs and that's what they say right it's the uric acid or some bullshit they're like

oh it must be living well eating all that red meat and booze like no i'm trying to have salad and water god damn it this is the worst anyway at least the hockey things are going great the hockey side here that's right uh yeah hopefully i guess basically talking to Roy this week. In a way, the sign went up. The flames are closed for business in terms of some contract stuff, which I think is relief for a lot of fans who are watching this team struggle. Don't be extending a bunch of guys, but it does sound like at least internally that they're moving on for the time being from any extension. Are we sure that that was the position of the Calgary Flames or the players said, you know what, let's just, you know, lock in the brakes here.

I mean, Lynn Holm was represented by Newport. You know, that was a slow moving process. And I'm not being critical of it at all. That's just the reality of how they chose to go into this one. Paperson and Hanifan, that was different. Like, I think they were real close to a multi-year extension. And Noah Hannifan just said, look, you know, he didn't push himself away from accepting a level of responsibility

for how things have started for the Calgary Flames. But, hey, when you're an unrestricted free agent or a pending UFA, you've earned that right. So, you know, my, I think he's going to leave a lot of money on the table is what I think, given the extension numbers that I heard, which I'm not going to repeat just out of fairness to that process. But it was the player here in that case, Noah Hannafin, who just said, hey, I need a bit more time to see where this organization, What direction are they going? And I think that's fair. You know, when you've got Hubert O's signed and you've got Cadry signed,

you've got Marksner under contract, you can't throw out really any of the R words, can you? You know, you can't rebuild with those contracts? So can you renovate? Can you retool all those fancy R words that the executives throw out from time to time? Well, I think the only way you can do that is if you're not extending your pending UFAs like Lindholm and Hanofen. and if things don't improve, then it becomes pretty obvious. Those guys are likely going to be traded.

Yeah, I would guess if you are in year one of your big extension to hear where you build. Like you say, reshuffle, retool, restock, whatever it is. Yeah, it's probably not ideal. So if by hook or by crook one way or the other, the flames get to this point. And they're going to move on from some of these contracts. For someone like Hanifan, I suppose, if there's a trade to be done. And there would be. I would think there's teams that would look at Hannafin and find a home for him.

Sure. Is that best? You always wonder, and I guess it depends on what teams have injuries and that, but are we expecting all of these, if it's a Lindholm, Tana, deadline deals, you got to wait to get that bidding process going, or is it not quite cut and dried? No, it isn't. And that's a dangerous game.

Like, you hope that the interest gets higher. You hope that the offers get better. And sometimes that does drift to the trade. deadline, but how many years consecutively now have we watched some of these bigger deals get done earlier? It depends on your need and what your stomach is here. And, you know, I look at the Pierre Luke Dubois trade to the LA Kings. It's a little bit different, but same agent as Noah Hanif and Pat Prasant. And he found a way to get the best of all worlds for PLD, didn't he? You know, he puts him in a spot in LA where they need centers. And then on top of that, he gets a mammoth contract to go along

with it. So specific to Noah Hanofan, there's always a market for good, solid top four defense. You know, I'm not saying Calgary is saying this. I've talked to a number of GMs who thought he'd have more offensive upside than what he has. Now, that's not to say it's not going to be, it's not going to come. But if you're investing in Noah Hanofen, are you willing to do that now, Are you willing to make the trade? And by now, I'm saying between now and March 8th. Or do you want to roll the dice on a rental option and see where it goes? So it's too soon to say any of that.

Are any of these a situation? Because we saw it with Kichuk, where you get the extra year, where you could do with a sign and trade, where you get the eight year as opposed to seven and brings your cap hit down and it gets the player a little bit more money. And in theory would bring the flames a big. your haul in terms of a trade. I'm not sure how many trades. It's pretty, you know, it's selective to the team, I suppose. But that might be something the Conroy is definitely going to try and sniff out if you could, I would think. I would think so, Dean. And most managers do that, but how often does it happen? It doesn't, it doesn't happen very often. First ever was Kachuk, as much as it was talked about

for decades, right? I know. It doesn't happen very often because it's, it's complicated. But that's why the clubs always have the advantage when you're getting into that process of talking about an extension. I mean, was Calgary in a place where they put an eight-year deal on the table for Noah Hanof it? I think they probably would for Lynnholm. So in theory it works, but it doesn't happen very often. I'm repeating myself here. I think, look, I mean, what they need, and by they, everybody associated with the organization,

is for this team to start winning hockey games, obviously. And then that kind of pushes everything back because there is not another team, even though there are teams that clearly have needs. I watched the Leaves for Wins last night. Boston had three American League defensemen in their lineup. Lilligran gets crumpled into the boards by Brad Marchand. He's out.

McCabe's out. You know, Toronto's got issues now on that back end. But, you know, Brad Trilliving, Don Sweeney, they're not throwing life preservers to Craig Conroy in the Calgary Flames and vice versa. So it's it's too early to get too caught up in what a trade might look like or whether it could be a sign and trade at this stage. I can see it. Sorry, I was just going to say, I can see in our comments, people are like, no, no, winning games is not what's best, drags. Let's make this real easy for a franchise player, you know. And I suppose on one hand, if they don't win games, and I mean, it's six losses in a row. And at this point, they played better the other night than they did in the outdoor game.

But there's not a whole lot of reason to think that this is a team that's going to get themselves into even a position to flirt with a playoff spot. It allows Craig Conroy and his staff to really dig into a trade market, to look at the draft kids that are going to be eligible for the upcoming draft. It kind of allows you to shift your focus as unfortunate as you're kind of throwing a year away. But it does let you care. It does. But imagine how that conversation goes with Murray. Edwards and ownership of the county flames right now Brad true living isn't there anymore but you know we were given Brad all kinds of credit for how he did the about term you know I mean okay

Johnny Goodrow isn't signing kept it to the 11th hour doesn't sign he goes into the market and oh by the way you've got kichuk who you've got to deal with now and and he wants to go to Florida so make that happen so you find a way to make those deals work but I got to believe you're doing that in concert with the conversation with ownership that is saying we're not we're not ready to to renovate here or rebuild let's just try and add the pieces that they added in hubert old and sign cadre and all of that and let's see if we can fix this and transition on the fly so now you're Craig Conroy and Conroy obviously talked about that when he accepted the job as general manager how difficult it was to watch gudra walk out for free but how do you go back to ownership and say, yeah, we committed long term to these pieces. They're not working out the way we hoped. So what do you think about selling off and, you know, trying to get our, put ourselves in a better draft position. It's possible. It might even be likely. It will be likely if this team doesn't find a way to turn it around. But how do you think that conversation goes?

That's got to be a tough one. Yeah. Well, and I think by American Thanksgiving, it's probably a large enough sample where we can stop pretending this team is going to be something that it isn't at that point. That's what a quarter of the season's done. Yeah. It's not like you're like, well, it's just a bad week or two. No, that's almost two months. And the other thing we've talked about too, Ryan, sorry, I want to let you in here. We've kind of, again, there's no, there's no way to confirm it. But we can't help but wonder, and it's no disrespect to Bradshaw living or any of Brian Burke or Jay Feaster. But I wonder if Craig Conroy and Jerome McGinnla maybe have a little bit more of Marie's

if it's just it's a little different when it's coming from two guys that wore the crest and meant as much as they did to the franchise if maybe that carries a little more weight with marie than say someone else yeah i think that's a fair point um and i think that both those guys liked the idea of taking it in the teeth yeah for a while and and foundationally fixing this organization as difficult as that's going to be i look i you know we had this conversation on set jeff uh jeff uh o'neill and and Dave Poulin and I the other day. It's not like even though they've got big contracts, they're immovable objects, right? I think that if you get to that place, and you're right, I mean, you know, American Thanksgiving traditionally is where teams really take full stock

and then they make their decisions moving forward. You know, if you're really going to play the drastic card, would there be a market for Nazan Kod? Yeah, there'd be a market for him. There would be. Do you have to eat some dough on both those cats, right? Probably. Yeah, probably.

It's all signing bonus with Huberto. what I think makes it scary for other GMs that in a worst case scenario you can't even buy it out. And the turn is forever. He's already in his 30s and you've got 7.9 years left on that thing. And this isn't a knock on both guys, even though it's going to sound like this. They're support players, aren't they? I mean, that's what we've learned here. That's what they are. That's true.

Second line for Hubert O in Florida and Nazim Kodry's second line center on a cup winning team. When you bring them in, the flames were asking them to be top line players. To this point, they haven't been. Yeah, and it's tough to move those contracts. I do think there'd be a market, but man, you're Craig Conroy and you're going into that pool, you better be creative and ready to swim. Okay, in division, if we're done with flames, fellas, is that fine?

The oiler's been one of the biggest disappointments in misery across the province, not just in southern Alberta, and the Canucks on the flip side have looked legit. Now, beating up the worst team we might see in a decade in the NHL last night's one thing, but this is a vastly improved Canucks roster that still has some top-end star power. Just a thought on the neighbors here, Dreggs. Yeah, well, look, I'm impressed by the Vancouver Connects.

I think that we could all think that they were going to be better. I still think that there's some growing pains for that group. Defensively, they're still looking for other pieces. Excuse me. So we'll see whether or not they can sustain this quick start. I would say that they can't. But, I mean, they've got some real high-end talent there. I mean, that's pretty obvious.

Their goaltending is top notch. I'm a big fan of what I'm seeing from Rick Tocke and that coaching staff in Vancouver. Like even the J.T. Miller situation earlier this week. He's running hot. He's taking dumb penalties. Well, Talk puts him on the bench. I mean, it wasn't an old-fashioned benching. What did he sit there for four and a half minutes?

Like, it's not like he sent this guy to the showers, but he let him cool off. He comes back into the third period. He scores a big goal and away the Vancouver Canucks go. So it looks like all of their pieces fit. And now I'm starting to wonder about Connor Garland, right? I mean, we know that the agent Judd Maldaver still has permission to talk to other teams. But, you know, I mean, there was nothing going the way of the San Jose Sharks last night. Who's kidding who?

But I'm listening to that game and I'm hearing Garland's name a lot. So maybe they're not as anxious now to move out a Connor Garland. As for Edmonton, I don't know, man. You guys got to inform me what's going on there because I don't get it. I don't understand. I mean, their defense has been in tatters and, you know, largely that's because of initial injury with Mattias Ekholm and things like that. Evan Bouchard, without Ekholm, looks completely and utterly lost back there.

And it looks like Kenny Holland is going to have to one more time do something. And then Connor Brown gets hurt, right? I mean, the good news is it. I mean, it sounds muscular, but he's got a big, big bonus coming up here shortly. Like what is it, 10 games? He gets another 3.25. One more game, and it's 3 and a quarter, and that might be all your cap gains for next year. And I'm a fan of Connor Brown coming off a real significant injury.

I thought that was a good signing. I did. I thought that he was going to be a piece that could certainly help them in their top six. You know, worst case scenario, top nine. but it just doesn't seem to work. And guys, I hate doing this. And I, you know, this isn't insider information. This is my experience telling me.

And you guys have lived it so often in Calgary. How long before we start talking about coaching in Edmonton? Interesting. Yeah. But, you know, it's because of how disjointed they seem. And, you know, I think last week we talked about this. They adopted the Vegas defensive system. And the owners just don't want to seem to buy in

want to commit to playing that way. And there seems to be a stubbornness with that coach to not want to change it, you know. And I guess he's looking at Vegas and seeing what they did. They hoisted the trophy. But, you know, that team is built from ownership down to win a Stanley Cup. And, man, they're, you know, where are they in the division right now? I mean, they- Only Calgary in San Jose.

They're in. It's not going to be too much longer before. the heat gets cranked on the stop. Yeah, and so you're gifted two superstars. You pick, you get four lottery wins. You got dry saddle at three, which is a great selection. That wasn't the consensus call there. And so outside of those two stars, what do you really have to do to have a cup contender?

Like, don't you just have to be league average everywhere else? And somehow we're looking at a team with below average net mining, below average decore, below average bottom six. And they're not young. They've swung and missed on some first rounders. Like Broberg ain't Coffield. he ain't Ziegress, he ain't boldy. Like, I might have missed up one of the guys in that draft class. But point being, it's like you could use another young exciting guy

rather than bringing back a guy in his mid-30s in Sam Gagne, who yes, scored. But they seem old for a team that we feel like this is a contention window. They're not as young as Colorado, like Dallas. No, but you hit on all of it, right? And those are all the areas of concern. I mean, just to go back a step here, I mean, the reason why the coaching staff, you know, employed the different defensive structure is because they're trying to protect their goaltending, no different than what Vegas had to do with the carousel of goaltenders that they went through last year before Hill and Thompson settled in.

Their bottom six is not good enough in Edmonton, offensively. It's just not. Defensively, that's been a disaster. And, you know, they had hoped to be able to play nurse and Bush and Bush. charred together. They tried it in the preseason. They were okay with it. Thought maybe if that would would click, then they could put Echoom and Broberg together. And Cody Cici drops into the third pairing. And it doesn't work for a minute. I mean, their defensive play as digress. So it's if you're, but if you're Kenny Holland, what do

you do? You know, you can fix these things. It's your last year on the job. like anything that's a draft pick is available. But you need to go make another at home deal at a minimum. And it might be another one that you have to do in net as well. Boy, and you're right, Dregs. At home, I like that deal for them. He came in. He just, he's a great fit there.

But when, when that's, if at home's out and then everything is in a rinse cycle again, that speaks to it. That one play last night for Bouchard where he was completely, he just had no idea where he was. He had no awareness. Yeah, can't get out of his own head, man. Oh, my gosh. Like, when he plays simple and, you know, he's got that big booming shot from the point, you know, it can be lethal.

And we've seen it work. But when he tries to do too much like a lot of players, it gets problematic. But now, you know, you're seeing the obvious. And they continue to look at their two top dogs and say, okay, we need you to bail us out. Because the defense isn't great. The goal-tending is just okay. Our bottom six is contributing. so isn't really contributing consistently.

So we need you two guys. And Evander Kane, we need you to play like you played in the Heritage Classic all the time. Not part time. We need you to do that all the time. So lots of questions there. Interesting week in Ottawa. I wonder with Michael Landlauer the quote about, I didn't deserve to inherit this or whatever that was.

I can't help but wonder what Gary Bettman thought about that. But a wild week between Shane Pinto and then. losing a first rounder, not a great week for the Sends. Well, look, Ann Lauer would have known that there were sanctions coming because of how things went down in the Dandenoff trade, right? And that's Vegas trying to move Dadenoff to Anaheim. And then they find out after the deal was approved that no, no, no, he has a limited no trade and Anaheim is on this list.

Ottawa didn't disclose it. Ottawa said it wasn't or he didn't have that when they made the trade sending Dadoff to Vegas. So, yeah, it was messy. But Michael Landlauer would have known that those sanctions were coming. But I don't think he knew or expected or at least hoped. He hoped that what was going to change was that it wasn't going to be that first-round draft pick, that forfeiture of a first-round draft pick.

I got to believe that new owner of the Sends campaigned in every way possible to try and get that reduced. I mean, talk about punitive. That's insane. It's a large, large sanction. But I think it also speaks to the commissioner feeling how misled everyone was in that process. When you get to the trade call, that is judge and jury. I've said that multiple times this week. And so when you're duped by management of a team, well, what is the penalty for that?

What is fair? So I don't think Ann Lauer maybe knew or didn't expect that Betman was going to adhere to as hefty a penalty as it turned out to be, but he knew that it was common. But yeah, there's been a lot of bad stuff. I mean, this was the end of the line, obviously. Pierre Dorian was going in it. He's in the final year of his contract. I think that organically they would have made the general manager change, but it just became evident to Ann Lauer and Steve Steyhouse that they had to do it now. That just seems so, so steep.

Like, who got hurt here? Who got hurt? You think of all the crazy things that the teams have done and been accused of and, you know, people losing livelihoods. Like, what was the actual damage here? Like, Vegas had their feelings hurt? Well, yeah, I mean, from a public relations standpoint, it didn't look good for Kellerman and the Vegas School of the Knights.

And now they've been vindicated. I understand that. But, and look, I think I'm probably. just scratching the surface of what actually went down. I have a good understanding of what went down and how misled the league, the ducks, the Vegas Golden Knights were by Pierre Adorian and the Ottawa Senators. But I understand your point, and I support it. I mean, to forfeit a first crown draft pick, even though you get to pick what year, 24, 25,

it's a first crown graphic. You're talking about what should be a legit NHL player. So was there more than that? You know, if we're willing to go as harsh as calling it a lie by senators' management, was it a collection of lies that led to the commissioner, you know, saying, there's got to, because we've seen this happen before. It's happened before where agents forget to submit or teams forget to, you know, it has happened.

Guys make mistakes. It's not that big of a deal. But to penalize Ottawa the way they have, it must have been a collection of things that went into this. And keep in mind because guys have speculated wrongly, I will say, it's not appealable. And Commissioner Bettman is not rescinding. You know, Michael Adelauer, yeah, he announced his disdain and how upset he was. It's not changing. They're forfeiting a first round pick.

They just get to pick the year. It's not changing. And that's what I wondered, because. because it was such a steep penalty. Is this like a cautionary tale? Is this happening behind the scenes? And we don't hear about it. I just don't know how many teams are going to be extra cautious now after this.

It just, it seems like it's something. But hey, guys, don't forget, when this first came down, you know, the league talked about and so did the Players Association. Okay, well, we've got to, we've got to find a way to bring this in house. All the limited no trade clauses and the lists and all that. They need to be attached to the contractor. Central Registry has to have a hold of it. or the Players Association has, well, they're not doing it.

And they still haven't done it. And they don't intend on doing it, which is under nonsense to me. I don't have an answer for it. You're worried about leaks? Like, how difficult would that be? I mean, you have to file your contracts with Central Registry. I don't know. I would have fully expected that all that stuff was already.

And clearly it's not. And now that it was still not doing it. It's stunning. It is. It is. It's a huge misstep. And I don't know if it's a manpower issue, like you need so. But I mean, when you make a trade, central registry painstakingly goes through the contracts before they say, okay, deal approved.

So add an extra layer that says, okay, here are the specifics to that no trade or limited no trade. Everybody's good with it. Yes, we're all good with it. All right, here we go. Doesn't make sense. I just see a few comments coming in. I just save to say, I'm just guessing, that the. flames would not allow the Oilers permission to speak with Daryl Sutter, right?

That probably would not happen anyway. Murray Edwards doesn't want to save $4 million. What are you talking about? Well, hey, maybe. You're going to pay him? What's a two more years? That's a whole deal, right? It's always like, yeah, well, if a guy's under contract and you're paying him,

that comes out of what we are. Hey, I was asked on Montreal radio this morning, somewhat tongue-in-cheek, I hope, how long before Daryl is back on the bench in Calgary? I just like I laughed the way you think he coaches again like I know he's still around the game but it kind of I don't think so yeah I don't think so I'll take his side on this is he not being vindicated to a certain extent yeah I think so man yeah right like yeah yeah yeah the culture change needed you had to move the dark cloud you had to do all of these things right yeah it's a result driven business. You got to win hockey games

and they're not winning. Yeah. Losing six in a row is not fun regardless of the fun is gone. Yeah, maybe it's more fun without Darrell. Yeah, that's probably fair. So is it like a liniment or like A535? What kind of, uh, Red, you're kind of in the natural stuff. Did we get some like, what kind of seeds? Some seed oil we can get great.

Get out in the woods and get some tree bark and chew that up with some. much up some mushrooms. Just make sure you know which mushrooms you're going to do. As Pinder would say, you're a fun guy. Fun guy. Yeah. That's great.

Okay. Same your recipes. Yeah. Love you, pal. Have a great week. We'll talk to you next Friday. All right, guys. Thanks.

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Could he crack the whip and get the, please? I just see Edmonton is more of a roster construction issue than a coaching issue, personally. Like, I just look at those two goalies and thinking you've got two years left of Drysidal and McDavid, and that's what you've got. I look at that decor and say you've got two of the best. Like I just see roster construction as a problem, not the coach. But I also don't think the coach is necessarily Hall of Famebound. I also saw Eric Goodbranson play some of his best hockey. We've seen him have that sort of impact.

I don't know if it's enough to push them over the top. But if you're, if it's goaltending and defensive woes that are your issue, do you have that kind of world class talent that can get you 30% on a power play? Yeah. It's not crazy to think. No. it's not just don't give permission mary murray don't do it why money some bottom line just don't want them to win retro that's all that's can't i don't want the oilers to win that's it

yeah the real parade in calgary in the next two three years is if somehow they don't lift the cup with those two superstars that will be one of the greatest failures in the history of this league to have someone as good as mac david not lift a cup in his first eight years that would be wild I know this is a bunch of rumor BS, but do you think if it continues the way it is that one of those guys goes, I don't want two more years here? I think if they don't win together,

they're not coming back. If they hang a banner, you can keep those guys. Before the contracts are over, you mean. Yeah, they got two years left in dry. So Red is asking. Yeah, okay. If their horseshed at Christmas,

sorry, and it doesn't look better next year. Is it or either one of them going. Ground bonus kicks in. That's all your extra. cap space disappears for a guy that's not even going to be there. If it's going to happen, I would think it would be this summer and it's Leon. Next year is the last year of his deal.

And you can go in Germany, home, be with family and say, guys, if you want to reload the cupboards, it's me. I'm not going to resign. And I don't have to live in Toronto and face all the cameras like McDavid will. And I know we spend a lot of time with Connor in Toronto this summer. But I just think if they miss this year, why would these guys be back? What has management shown them about their ability to surround them with the right parts? I don't think it'll happen, but I don't know.

No, but if they miss, that's the only way. Yeah. And again, we're sort of like way down the road again. No one would be surprised if the Oilers won 14 of the next 20 games and we're second in the Pacific in the new year. Like there's enough high-end offense there. And the beauty for them is there's nothing. It's get in and then the. Well, that's the thing, right.

The one thing that this. starts that this has done is yeah they could rattle off 8 10 12 i feel okay in my own skin about their chances in a playoff yes i look around and i see some of these other teams and how they're constructed feel okay about so in terms of the pacific you'd say we'll take evmonton against basically anyone but vegas right now dino yeah probably but then i mean we saw dallas the other night and again last night i like colorado i like you start to look around just in the west and unless things do change drastically there. Yeah, that defense is,

it's a dog's breakfast. Yeah. And honestly, like, L.A., if they'll add a goal if they're in position to, and I Tocke's giving this team some structure, they're going to make moves too. I think this is a great year for Vancouver. Like,

and so where are the flames? They're the bottom here. They're just a hair above San Jose, who might be the worst team of watching a decade. More than that in the Pinda report. but the flames could make a move and then we'd they'd be a good in good spot what kind of move and what kind of a good spot like what are we talking about winning or high picks i'm confused up is down right is wrong bad is good finning Canada finning cat one of your one of our proud sponsors your local dealer for cat equipment built to handle work in western Canada for heavy equipment for the job site,

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You had to dig it as well. I was digging the throwback unis for the Titans. It was the old Houston Oilers UDES. Those kind of baby blues and that, they look sharp. I dig it. Okay. So this week, we go to the merchandising area of the sports universe. And this was in the American

League, but you might remember, this is a bobblehead for Yaroslav Ascarov, top goalie prospect for the National Predators playing for the Milwaukee Admirals. What the hell is he doing here, right? Can you describe what you're seeing? He's doing net push-ups. He's on his back,

bench pressing the crossbar of a net. Why is he doing that? Well, let's take you back to last year when Ascarov won a shootout game. This is after he stops the David, the shootout, the admiral's win. He gets on his back.

He's hammering out crossbar bench press. This is unbelievable. And so the only thing better than actually doing this on home ice with the fans going crazy and you win in overtime is the bobblehead that now complements it. Now, do they dig it? Do you guys dig it? I dig it.

I want this thing. That's amazing. I was just looking at the clock there. There was 833 to go in overtime. It was 1-1. And he just make a same. or did they win? I was pretty sure it was the shootout.

I was confused by that because I... That's pretty cocky if you just make a save to keep the game tied and OT and start bench pressing the net. No, Jack, I don't know if you added that or not. I thought he was sworn by the team after that. Or maybe what it was is someone was awarded a shootout in overtime. Either way, the dude was pumped. And he's one of those four or five like super stud prospect goalies out there.

So the president need another goalie. You couldn't do that here because you would have people. That's disgrace the game. You're just, how dare you do that sort of stuff? They liked it in Milwaukee. Milly Wauke. The Goodland. I can dig it.

What do you think if he gets under there? It's like, oh shit, it's too heavy. Look at the shots. This is why he's doing it. It's 46 to 12. Ascarov's been upside down against Rockford here. And he's like, you can't do it. I'm too strong for you all.

Can I get a spot over here? Having fun. There you go. Finning cat, finning.com. Go rent yourself some heavy equipment or whatever it is you need. Let's do the Pinder Report. Apparently we're going to hear about how bad San Jose is. That's what's coming up here. It's a thing.

And that's fine. They're trying to be bad. They're trying to tank. They're doing a great job. Tough if you have the fans, though. Is that Willa Ford? I want to be bad for you, baby. Keep going.

She was married to Mike Madano, dating Mike Madano? I think they were married. Married? It might still be. No. No. McLeodlaw. Well, I hope they got in touch with the cloud law.

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He's on waivers. Too many ostriches. There's too many austerlies. That's, we'll see. It looks like he's going to go to the American League. If he clears, we'll find out, oh, what is it, noon east of mountain?

Oh, vacation. Oh, the pro sure said there by ostriches. Many. Listen longer, and you'll get the bad jokes. if you've been around for a decade. You'll get the joke, which is not very good anyway. Jack is baffled.

What the hell is happening? There's no Jack laughter in the background. Oh, no, no, no, no. RJ will be laughing somewhere. That's right. RJ, he just peed himself. That's good stuff. We go to that to the corresponding transactions.

Matthew Coronado is going to play this afternoon for the Ranglers. Oh, wow. So Coronado. Now, this is interesting because Pike saw this coming. This was a bit of a pike bond. He had tweeted this morning that Coronado had played on all four lines. And, yeah, it played with every single forward of Submanjapani. That feels the guy that hasn't really settled into a spot, quote unquote.

And centering the fourth line was his last stop. The American League's top line, probably a better spot for him in the near term fellows. And, well, what's the corresponding move? Martin Pospasal up from the Wranglers, an injury plague three years. It's his fifth year in the flame system. since being drafted, I believe, and guys continued to work at this thing. They could have another

solo lap on Saturday after debuts by solo and Zeri. Now it could be the solo lap for hospiceal in Seattle. So many rookies. So many kids, and this is what we talk about. I mean, use come from.

The farm team down the hall, the heats. Yeah. And because they're close, right? Well, this is the first year they've been here. So it's really the first opportunity they've had to take advantage of this. Makes these transactions pospousal. That's right. I have them so close.

The pospicilities are endless. Yeah. And it gives hope to the other guys in that Wrangler's room. This guy went up. This guy went up. It's possible.

I could be the next guy to get that call. That's right. So dig in for whoever your coach is there. Martin Mull. What's a darty, a darty? that's a car over in uh yeah you know what else it is it's what's happening at one at the saddle dome today here's the wranglers telling us what a darty is uh that's a day party but you knew that

that's right one o'clock puck drop at the dome you give it away fanny packs you can hammer darts in the no that's still outside only uh and yeah i was just thinking like my kids are out at noon why not go see watch couple periods watch coronado fill the net let's go baby be a cool boss and bring your team for a Friday afternoon, Dardy. Dardy. Dardy. Nice. Go Ranglers. I'd like that fanny pack, Dean. I'm going to leave the house often, but would you rock that thing if you did?

I'd rock that shit. You dig that? Damn right. I can dig that. I dig that. I dig it. Last night was an absolute shit show in San Jose, a team that we know was going to be bad that his drawing flies was particularly bad last night. how bad?

Well, the Canucks put 10 on them. That's more than the sharks have scored all season. That's a dardy. That's a dardy right in the neck. It doesn't seem awesome. How bad was it? My first sharks came and look at the Kairon bottom left. This poor kid.

It'll get better, son. This is rock bottom. Yeah, he's not going back. who we yeah that's that's a rough rough uh entrance into the sport and then this from our friends of kinnux army god almighty they killed him yeah san Jose is broken in half oh yeah the internet does he jump on him there on mikville does he go down on no no but they wheel they wheel him to the back because he's broken in half and then he walks back out and climbs up again no and then gets chokeslammed through the cage onto the mat.

I just don't know how these dudes don't die. It's crazy. It's a hell of a beating. Yeah, it is. They'll be politely rewarded with a very high draft pick this year. They still got to win that lottery. They do. Yeah, no, you're right.

If you finish dead last, you have less than 50% chance of picking first. Those are still the rules. It's go flames, go. Go flames. GFG, baby. Go fire. POS. Anything is POSPSA.

The POS facility. of the Canucks being good certainly increase when Quinn Hughes is the best player. Look what he's done. This is your start to the season defenseman leaders, Rhett. Goals, Quinn Hughes, assists, Quinn Hughes, points, Quinn Hughes, plus minus, Quinn Hughes. Even strength goals, Quinn Hughes, even strength points, Quinn Hughes. Did you notice the theme there? Puckog.

Yes, that's the takeaway, and what a puckog he's been. The kids today. And isn't his brother leading the forward ranks in almost all those categories? Pee in this cop. Are the parents even talking to Luke right now? I mean, come on, Luke. Do something, would you? Would you?

It was the coyotes and HABs last night. That game you showed you showed Golemona. Sean Monna. Start over. Jack, and we start it again. The Peter Report, brought you by Village Honda. Do you know, Sean Monna has scored last night in Arizona. You showed us the video.

That wasn't another Habs loss. And the interesting storyline here was that your eye, Slavkovsky, continues to be ineffective at the NHL level. The first overall pick from two summers ago had to play against the third overall pick from the same draft and the coyote's social media team did not miss as Cooley was quite good and Slavkosky continues to struggle. I do like it. It's like almost a clown nose.

That's good stuff. Yeah. The Slavkosky thing and then you pass on Mishkov like this. you're supposed to be coming out of this with two studs here. Well, and who's, I'm drawing a blank. I'm trying to think the kid that went to Seattle. Oh, Shane Wright. Shane Wright is somewhere very happy.

It's like, go ahead. Suck it, you dicks. Pressure off me. That was a weird year too, right? Like, what was it? Right? Missed a whole year of development because he stayed in the O and they never played that one year in COVID.

Like weird stuff. Slavkooski went to the Olympics. Kooley. Coolly was a kid. Could be that way. We'll see. Schedule tonight. Lights late.

two games in the NHL, that's it, that's all. And you won't hear about us in the Betway Betts talking about them because we got our football picks on this Friday. Are you going to the game, Retro? Retro, you going to the game? No, I got a game. I got a coach. All right.

And I got a meat raffle. Oh, you're doing another one of those. Yeah, big game and then off to the meat raffle. So it's going to be a big night. It is Friday night. It's interesting with the terminology you and the Schupler half or shit. Oh. Hey, babe, remember we got the meat raffle tonight.

Don't bring the shoveler into this. I'm saving for the end of the Pender Report. We'll go to the NBA. Kevin Durant's tall, right? So tall. Like, what is he? Seven foot something? Like, he's a monster.

This is him with the super rookie Wembeñama, the French kid that went first overall. Look at how short Durant looks. Are you blaping kidding me? He's towering over him. what is going on? And he's telling him, hey, if you can't win yourself, just come over with us.

Go and join another, go and find the super team, and they'll lead you to a ring. Dean doesn't like that one, but it's still in your craw. That's stuck in your craw. It's a weird backpack. It is. I like that you have some backpacks.

That's usually just a NBA backpack too. Nonetheless, yeah, that's even, I love it. Great stuff. To the NFL, Jack Steelers gave him the greatest present. could ever have on his 25th birthday yesterday. They won a game. What a game. That Levis kid looked all right in the other end of the field

throwing, zipping that ball around under pressure for the Titans too. Decent Thursday night game. Primetime unders hit again. Bubbles, what was it? How was it? What's it? Pardon me? Bubbles? Was it decent? Decent. At five and three, the Steelers are

they sound good, but really are they? The 34th team since 19. 1333 to be outgained in each of their first eight games of the year. So every game, the other team said more yardage. They're the only one of those teams since 1933 that has a winning record. They also have been outgamed in every game with a deficit of 790 yards. That is insane. Well, hey, you got Canada on the sidelines.

Anything's possible. Anything's possible with Tomlin. You don't mess around. And then Jack loved this because remember week one? He's like, Niners are overblown. Steelers went in the division. and they got throttled. Both teams now five and three.

He's in good spirits today, boys. He's in good spirits. Yeah. No Matt Canada hate today in the chat. Very impressive. And Jack, the greatest fourth quarter quarterback of all time is,

there you go, see. And preseason quarterback. Let's not forget that. True. He just plays every preseason quarter like it's the fourth quarter. We'll move along. Rhett, you and I in fantasy.

this week. You have a good fantasy team. I am hot shirt. You might want a tight end that's going to play this week. Other than that, it could be close. We'll see. So neutered dad up against simply the breast. Edline hasn't passed yet. There's still time

for trades. Old Gene Minchew there at QB. Yep. Doing some gardening. That's my boy with the trowel there at quarterback. And that brings us to our next item, Rhett. This is a Reddit chat. specifically dedicated to fantasy football.

Why don't you read us the headline, Dean, on what's happening here? Sure. Guy in my league is offering Pollard for CMC, and I get to bang his wife one time. So basically he really wants Christian McCaffrey. Pollard's best player. He's got nothing else that can win the deal,

but the guy trading CMC gets to sleep with his wife once. Thoughts. Going to need pictures. I was going to say, I don't know who's winning this drink. Well, you read says it's pretty tempting. Since she has huge jugs, I've always fantasized where. So yeah, he's into it.

See, I can find stats for Pollard and CMC. I don't know where to go. Yeah, I think it's a 34 double D and is the bra size. And I don't, yeah, measure the waist, the hips, what do you measure or not here? Enticing. See, and all you have to do is eat nuggets, pender. Be thankful.

On that note, Rhett, I do have a very keen interest in Stefan Diggs, if you go back to your rosters, or anything we can work out? Hey, we could maybe be able to get it. Settle down. I don't have anyone good. I have Tony Pollard, but maybe I can add a little sweetener to the deal.

Anything's possible. We got Bobby Jeremy and Jack of that one, boys. Does she ever hear any of this shit? Like, I hope not. This might come back to her. We'll see when rats knocking at the front. Well, you can see how offended Rhett was at the notion of even

joking about such a thing. He's like, you can have Stefan Diggs. That's great, Pindner. I'll be home in a week. I do like Stefan Diggs. When are you out of town? You're going to like this, Dean, because you love animals and you love eating, right? So this is a new restaurant

by Rett's place. When you visit Buffalo, you've got to go. Holy Jesus. what is that? What the fuck is that? That's a rat the size of your arms, sir. Let's watch it again. What is that? What the fuck is that?

Yeah, that's, what? Angrier, just listen to it. It's beautiful. It keeps getting angry. Well, that's from... Do you know what that it is? Pinder? That's a clip from Full Metal Jacket.

Oh, thank you. You've never watched Full Metal Jacket. I have, but maybe, like, 25 years ago. Do you have much beer and brain cells I've killed since then? Is your malfunction? But I'll tell you what.

Rats are something else, eh? Because we used to mice. It's like, oh, mice and rats in the same thing. There was a story about rats in the news today and the Calgary Herald. Come on. Yes. What's happening to our rat-free landmass?

They had overrun some abandoned house in McKenzie Lake? No. Rats. It's not a bad. not abandoned. Someone shovels in guns to know. I don't know what story is. The story is there might be rats somewhere.

They've got to get to the bottom of it. Now, retro and Razor went on vacation. You guys are tight now in Buffalo. I think this is Cabo. I could be wrong. Any way you're out there, you want to do, want to have the fun. The ladies are on the beach tanning. And you and Razor, let's do the zip line.

Looks like a lot of fun. Thank you. God, it's over the water razor. I'm going to say, of all the, whof, snap. Who's running that zip line? Who, let me just do a quick head to toe there. How's your insurance? Get that up on the blue cross there.

Yeah. And finally, this is. Got to add a zip line, call McLeod law. You get your Alberta Blue Cross insurance. You get your lawyer. Just be careful if you're going on in the zip line. Be ready. You're covered.

Be ready. You big tub of shit Have a zip line accident in Cabo? Are you a large tub of shit They got hurt on a zipline accident? Call us today. We got your back. Meanwhile, Peter Klein's like,

fuck, I don't know, guys. I mean, I'm pretty good, but, you know, God. The last one, Rhett's a bit of a prankster. We know this. Remember one of his birthday parties? He had a massive grand prize for some athletic feat,

and it was a box of a TV and inside was a TV. It just didn't work. He's a prankster, right? Broke. Yeah, it's a prankster. So this is what Rhett calls the smelling salt alarm. Now, the shovel is trying to get a little nap here. She'll run down from a party and razor.

Poor thing. That's not a nice, Red. Smalley salt alarm? That's just mean. What is the thing that blew up? And then... It looks like she's getting pied here. Oh, my gosh.

Man, she was mad after that, hey, Rhett? Yeah, but you should have seen her drinking the last night action. She asked for it. She might still be in the bag. She was on the meat raffle, so her spirits are up. She was setting up for the meat raffle. Yeah, she got out of hand. Oh, that's your Friday edition, fellas.

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We got lawyers. We got lawyers. We got lawyers. Diggs is going to help me. I'm telling you. We signed on for the Pindra report. We thought it was just kind of news of the day. Seems like there's a lot of awkward videos and talk about,

my swapping. I'm not sure we want to be. He's just a hard negotiator. I'm sure we want to be aligned with this sort of thing. Look, if I could get it. digs any other way I would. This is the last resort, honey. I need a wide receiver.

I can't be starting Cooper next to Christian Watson. These guys are bums. Waddle's playing overseas. He's in Germany. I don't know if he's going to come through or not. I can really use. Now, Jack, I put working out. It's fine. Yeah. I put a little gray eagle thing

in my, in the drive there. I don't know what this is. I got to talk to Sheldon. We're going to have to talk to people over at the Grey Eagle. Okay. But you know, Rhett, you love Christmas. Love Christmas. I love Christmas. We all love Christmas. And we all love, take a look at this thing that's coming.

A Christmas rock story, a holiday circus spectacular, acrobats, aerialists, daredevils, and a rock and soundtrack December 8th at the Griegel at the event center. So we got motorbikes. Yeah. We got motorbikes and, yeah, like, Acrobatts and stuff going on and it's Christmas. Let's go.

That feels like a very eggnog friendly event right there. Right? Like here, yeah. It's definitely rum and eggnogs. Oh, yeah. I'm into that. Looks like one guy's on skates, swinging somebody around. There's a guy with a guitar, motorbikes.

Well done. From a hula hoop. That's, uh, who. I'm in the spirit. Tickets available. It looks like he's fired up too. Well, Santa's ready. He's ready.

He's ready. Yeah. A Christmas rock story coming to the Grey Eagle event center, December 8th, get in the spirit. Tickets available at Ticketmaster.c.n. If they're not on sale now, they will be very soon because it was just announced. I figured I could do some homework on it and figure out what it is. Or we could just kind of figure, look at it together. I think we've, everything we need to know, we know. We need to be there with eggnog.

That's right. That's all we need to know. Yeah. is right. Gray Eagle Event Center. And then of course at the casino and the hotel, they got everything going on over at the Grey Eagle. Grey Eagle, casino

and at event center. Time for the What to do a bet, bad way? Bet, bad, bad, bad. Football fans? Bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. I just need a quick minute. Tell me about Betway. Oh, yes. Batway 19 plus,

Ontario only. Bet the responsible way. Betway. Play along. Get the phone. on your app, have some fun. And Rhett, we got a great game Sunday morning. You're going to love this in the Eastern time zone. It is a 9.30 Eastern kickoff between the Finns and the Chiefs. You will be rooting for Mahomes and Company to beat the Bill's divisional rival. I hate the Finns.

Wellesie and to a... Yeah. I haven't beat a 500 team yet all year. They lost Philly. They lost to the Bills. And now the Chiefs, we'll see. Okay. Pump them.

Are you... Do you notice that the... football starts later out there? Like you have nothing before noon out there unless they're in Europe. Yes, and I don't like it as much. It's good if you're going to the game because 11 o'clock start is tough to tailgate at. So it's good if you're going to the game. Aside from that, it's the shits.

And so you'll be able to take this one in. Big brunch. What do we call it? The big scrambled plate? What is the hash? Yeah, the hash. The hash. Yeah.

Okay. That's Sunday morning. And look at this! Yes! Dah! Bears! Look at this guy. I am so excited for you.

Duh! Do it. Dah! Bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears, that bears. Bears, that bears, bears, that bears, that bears, that bears. I am, we've bugged him for 10 years, Rhett, don't judge him. He's done the right thing. He has an NFL.

team. Where's your jersey? What do you mean? He's got a sport coat. Oh, he's got a zippy. Get a jersey. Come on. We will. I've been a fan for about 22 hours. I thought I did pretty good. Donaldson, remember? Yeah. Montez Sweat. Get a sweat jersey. That's right. If you really want to be, how big a fan are you? Well, and you're a sweaty guy too. That's so sweaty. Yeah. Pete, Pete, sweety, sweaty. Shetty. Dean. Now you're going to put your

where your mouth is. GD. Right. Let's see it. Picks of the week. That way. Point spread picks. Before we get started. Our records aren't important. Don't worry about it starts fresh. That's where I was going to go here.

It's kind of like the series. We don't need to see it. I specifically told Jack to shut up for the first time. Yeah. I was just going to let us everyone know the records because there are some bad math last week. Boomer meth? Oh, for real. The real records.

Okay. Yeah. Rett, 11 and 10. Very good. Boomer 8 and 13. Not so good. Under 6 and 15. Downright awful.

But ended my 10 match wrong streak with a 2-1 week last week. Way to break. Going against my gut. So we found something that's going to work. Who's up first? Just stick with a hot hand. Henders' picks, baby. After 10 wrong in a row, I nearly went three for three, boys.

The stupid Giants. kicker screwed me. Here we go. What are we talking about? Chicago Bears getting eight and a half points. Do I like that? They're not that bad. New Orleans isn't that good.

I like the Bears, which means I'm taking New Orleans minus eight and a half. Going against Boomer's team. What a debate. I'm trying to help them. You know how this goes. I like the Seattle,

Baltimore game to be a tight one. It feels like a Tucker field goal at the end wins things. Seattle plus six makes a lot of sense. So I'll go Baltimore minus six. And finally, a lot of the sharp money in on Carolina, getting two and a half points against Indianapolis, the public's all over Indy.

So I'm going to go away from the money and go Indy minus two and a half. So you're going with the public. Not the money, which is where smart people are. Allegedly. Let's see if we can't go three and out. It gets a nine and 15. Hoof.

Here's my picks. The Giants in Las Vegas to play the Raiders. What happens when you change a coach? You win. You pick up a win. The graders. I wondered about that. I'm not sure about football.

They're already the mood in the locker room. These guys are loving life. It's Josh McDaniels. They did not like this guy. He gone minus one and a half. What are the Giants? The Giants are not. Give me the Raiders minus one and a half at home.

Houston, Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay's lost three in a row. Houston's been okay. Give me Tampa Bay. and some points. And the Chicago Bears. Tyson Baygent, my boy, eight and a half points on the road in the big easy.

Let's go Bears plus eight and a half. It's a big easy cover, Dean. I like that. Let's go. Red? Yeah, looks here like I've got Baltimore over Seattle or Arizona at Cleveland, Cleveland,

minus eight, and Buffalo. They're getting a point and a half on the road. Yes. And this is the game that got halted with the DeMar Hanlon near tragedy. So there's unfinished business here. Although I think I'll change that.

I'm going to go with Dean and the Bears. Yes. You can't do that. And you know what? I was going to go bills, but I know you got so mad at me last time because I feel that's the play. All the more reason for me to go Bears.

Everyone's loving the Bengals. Hey, the Bengals are back. Look at Big Joe, this and that. You know what? I'll get rid of my Baltimore pick. I'll go bills and bears. Okay. So, Jack, you're the official notarizer here.

You're the secretary. You need to make sure Baltimore minus six is removed and you are adding the bears plus eight and a half. And I want to change one of mine. I'm going to keep the bears. What are my picks again? I'm going to get the bills in there. No, you can't change. Get rid of my Vegas pick.

I'll keep Tampa Bay. Actually, I want four. That's how good I feel. I'm going to go to the wall with four this week. Throw the bills on top of those three. And you know what? Give me Carolina. What the hell is happening here?

So I can go against. I want Carolina. Oh, this is too much. And that'll be five picks. Listen, I got to get it back. It's like when you're at the casino and you're down. I got to get on a run here. I'm 8 and 13 for Christ's sake.

Who the hell's this Bears fan? He's a lunatic. He can't even make three picks. Let's go. Where's the old guy? Those are my picks. Carolina, Buffalo. He gets those picks.

That's it. What? He gets those picks that are you, everyone could see right there. Those are his picks. You know what he just did? He just wondered you. It's so good. I like this.

I like this. I like to see what you do to everyone else. Can't have two of us. And I hit on three out of the five that I picked. If I get three out of the five, I have a great check. all right jack what do you got i'm going to change a pick two oh oh for you did red um big stealers win so i'm just going to take everyone else to the division as losers um buffalo plus one and a half seattle plus six and whatever arizona is i think it's plus eight against cleveland so

it is eight yes it's eight and a half in some places betway today i checked it's eight and like i say i love carolina getting two and a half okay So Dean, you got six games, right? You got five, Jackie, got four. You just pick the ones you want on Monday and tell us how you did. Is that what we're doing, Dean? We'll figure it out on Monday. Yeah, it feels like that's going to be okay for you.

On Betway, unfortunately, they don't let you. Can't do that. Actually, you do. You can bet on anything there. You can bet whatever you want. That's what beauty of Betway. Ten games, five games, three games. Just bet the responsible way.

At both sides. Oh, I see, and I need Dallas. Dallas is playing the Eagles. Everybody loves, no one loves the Cowboys. You're getting three points. Cowboys plus three. This Chicago character has got some moxie to him. Sure does.

That's a swagger. Look at this guy. Yes, it looks good on you, Dino. And you know what? No wimps allowed in Chicago. If you're afraid of Chicago, you're not welcome. You're not allowed here. Got to be tough, Red.

Stop reading the news and get some street cred. Hey, Dean would be safe in Chicago. He doesn't leave the house. That's what I mean. It's perfect for him. Good food. Deep dish. You're laughing.

Deep dish. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Basically a cheese casserole. That's what it is. The deep dish. It takes a 45 minutes. That's the thing. You go in and you know this takes like an hour to make. What? All right. This is pizza. It would take 20 minutes while you're out of here. It's bread sticks to start. Anything? Oh, Drew's back. Sell the hat, sell the jacket. It's what I had in the friggin, like. Settle down, buddy. Hey.

Settle down, Drew Carey. Take a long walk off a short pier. there's Mike that boy dinger go bears go what they got three wins what's the what's the touchdown song for the bears

we're gonna fight fight fight fight on bears we're marching right right right on bears I like that Buffalo song from yesterday a little better that hit home for some people I got some message

like I can't get that what's that's where did we find that what is that whistling on that all day you know what we'll go out on that one today because it's still in my it's still in the file all right we'll spin a little man on a buffalo over there.

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Well, Pinder, you're off for something. We got a top secret, top secret trip. Can't talk about a top secret, top secret report next week from Top secret report. Right. Top secret, top secret. Sunshine. That's right.

Mouse ears. Shh. Are you the whole week and a half or are you splitting her up? Maybe two days there. Two days. It shouldn't impossible. Impossible. Pospisal, boys.

Yeah. It is awesome there. Have you, have you been? Not since I was a kid, but the, yeah, eight year olds. This is the time, right?

Yeah. It's awesome. Get it done. Don't need to do it again. I had no, because all you hear about is nightmares and its lines, all this sort of thing. We went a few years ago.

It was right before COVID, 2020. Mm-hmm. It was awesome. Good. Yeah. Thanks, Ken. You can frigg off. Pender is always off, it says there.

So Retro and I, doing the deal next week. week one game they play sunday it's a good week to live and then wins Tuesday sorry play Saturday yes Saturday against the crack and then Tuesday Nashville in town and then they go on their road trip they go Toronto for the old Trilling matchup Ottawa back to back sends are better new GM you're good friends you should get them on Dean we'll get them on and then Sean Monotone on the following Tuesday as they do their eastern Canadian swing maybe they'll ride the train you guys want a beer come on ride

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on Ask Red if he's ever ridden to Buffalo and he said no and the guy said, but I saw this online. This is how we'll end appropriately this show today. Have a great weekend, everybody. We'll see you Monday. The guy on the Buffalo hopped off to stretch his legs. Walk in the field.

Hey, what's this in the weeds? It's a baby. Awesome. And put it in a saddle. Hopped on. Humped it up a hill. across a river not gonna happen man you're riding on a buffalo member but keep the baby inflowting get you guy don't look it by yourself god said i got this i don't need you buffalo