Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - GAME 82 + Andrew Ladd Joins The Show | FN Barn Burner - April 18th, 2024

Episode Date: April 18, 2024

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And we're wheels up on another edition of Barnburner here in studio live, unless you're listening, not live, in which case it's been pre-recorded. And it's a Thursday, unless you're not listening on a Thursday. Unless it's whatever day you're listening. And then it's the day that you are listening to. We're watching. And I think you should listen to it when you want. Whenever you want.

Oh. Yeah, don't listen to one else to tell you when to listen. What's the rules to this. Whatever works best for you, fellas. Whatever you need, whatever you want to do. Don't tread on my listening freedom. I'll listen when I want. Won't do it. It won't do it.

All right. Get your helmet on one last time. It is a game day for the Calgary Flames. We made it, fellas. Almost there. 82 games. What? Oh, the excitement of it all.

What a time it's been. It's a marathon. Yeah. The things we've learned. We've learned so much. Yeah, smut. I was thinking we should have done, well, we were going to do bold predictions,

but then no one did them. But if we had like a time capsule that we could open today, I just turned to a random page because I know the flames were a point out of the playoffs on Feb 16th. Your top line. How was our mood? Does it say anything about how confident we were or our mood? I was probably grubber. Hurt was hurt for the sharks.

We were very hopeful. And then I think Wolf got pumped that night. Yeah, that's right. That was the, uh, I had it here. That was a six three. We had a, we had a, a gym ladder and Zamboony fail in the Pinda report. I love that.

And the top line was Huberto, Sharon Govich, down the middle with newly acquired Andrei Kuzmanko. Or Kuzmankov at that time. At that time, it was. Yes, he's changed it formally since. Your D pairs were, Wigger and Anderson. Had it fit and Teneff. And then, yeah, Chiligton and the ball in the third pair. Yeah.

It's been a long time, deep. What were we expecting at the start of the year? You were hoping they'd be more competitive with this coach. The whole conversation was around culture, coach, and bounce by. back. Yeah, we had to fire people because the culture was bad and the attitudes were bad. Yeah. New leader and the attitudes were going to be good.

And everyone was very excited. Yeah. And to be fair, I think the culture is better. The leadership has, it's there. There is a captain. I think that's an improvement from where it was. And I think that work ethics better. The team is much worse.

And then last year, like two years ago, they were going to be better than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The Chuck. Yeah, they were going to be better. Yeah. They might be better this year. Whatever we thought was going to happen, it's kind of gone the opposite way for about six years in a row.

Down and then down. Because Sutter came in when they fired Ward and it was like, oh boy, I don't know if this team's any good. Then they won the division. Then you're like, shit, well, this team just won the division. They got out of their hair out of the fire and added a star forward, a first rounder at a fencing. Star Forward turned into be a guy that used to be a star forward and they were awful.

It's really been quite a roller coaster. Tell us about that Star Forward. Yeah, well, he's just three points shy from matching last year's total of 55 points, which was the largest single season drop year over year of 60 points from his 115 in Florida. 115 points.

Oh, goodness. That guy, 115 points. Not someone else wearing his jersey name bar. That guy actually got 115 points. Trending downwards then probably. That depends how you want to view it. I think if it was a stock, this is Florida. I mean, you're watching that way.

And then he came to Calgary Year 1, than like the start of year two and now, oh, second half of year two. Really? Are you telling me the first half of the season looks anything like the second half with him? Well, he's like three quarters of a point per game. He had one point in December.

He was awful the first half of the year. Are you suggesting that where he is now is higher than where he ended last season? At the end of game 82. Yes, because he's had three or four months of better play than what he averaged over last year. Even though, as you had said, he needs... Three points.

Three points to match last year. year's dismal offensive. Rock bottom for Jonathan Huberto was the first three months of this season. Yeah, we were at the point where you could put him in the stands. It was press box time. Yeah. We don't need the experience. We don't need the experiment. We can just let him go sit. Are we far removed from that? If Huberto

didn't play tonight. I would say I'm not because it's still the level of disappointment, but he has produced more. And the guys he's played with seem to be putting up a little bit of... I would put him in Andromajapani in the same box there in the sense that like, yeah, if they were making five million bucks, you'd be okay with it. You wouldn't be wowed.

You could live with it. The problem is he's making 10 and a half for the next seven years and it's all signing bonuses. Jesus. It's a big problem. That's, yeah, you're living really, whatever you need, hey? Wow, the agents, again, it's not Hebridos.

Well, maybe it is. I am not blaming the agent. I didn't say agent. or Hubert. I am saying the agent. Tre Living. Yeah, I know. So we talk about, like,

noodles was on yesterday. He says you have to be a sociopath. And it's like a psycho to be a GM, which is to remove emotion. If you go back and listen to the comments that Brad Trilliving had in the wake of Kachuk and Godro leaving, it was all emotion.

It was pretty emotion. And that was a Calgary needs to punch back. We had to do it for the city. And so you came from an emotional place, not a logical one. And look, the McKenzie Weger extended. is a great one. That one is going to age very well. He's already a huge value at six and a quarter, 19 goals.

Like, if he's on the open market as a free agent this summer, he's probably commanding 80 year minimum. I mean, he's going to look at, say, darn all nurse, Seth Jones, I'm doing things they can't do. Yeah, he's had an unbelievable year. Yeah. And so, you know, that's, and then the first rounder's a hell of an ad. Then you immediately turn it around and send it to Montreal. Shit. Yeah. So, as a whole, I don't mind the trade at all. it's it's the one extension and the monahan trade that really kneecapped you they gave you the full tanya harding if the flames are nancy but you don't mind it the trade is good you don't mind the trade god they get tons of value in the trade you just have to not extend at that number if you just go back

to the trade you keep that first rounder the trade's not a problem the problem is that you went and paid a guy that's turned into a nobody like if it was weager and Anthony Duclair in a first. It'd be like, it's kind of what Hubert has given you. Well, I don't know. I don't feel like the trade is that good. When you got a hundred.

You don't have a crystal ball, right? So you got 115 point forward, a top pair defense. Yeah, yeah. And a first round pick. So, yes, at the time, we thought the trade was pretty good. Yeah.

And the first round picks still. And the only thing, and I said that too, even I'm the only smart one in the room because I called it the way it is. Like I always do. Like you always do. Yeah. The trade was fine. Yeah.

Stop there. It's the extension. Stop there and hit pause. Yeah. And even the weaker things of fine signing, but you didn't have to sign them at that point. Didn't have to. If you'd just sign them at Christmas last year, it wasn't $8 million. Anyway, and I'm fine with it.

It's the signings that. Yeah. I agree. And so let's say. Yeah. The first. Yeah. So let's say Huberto arrives in town without an extension.

He's playing poorly. Your team's not going well. Is that not the perfect candidate to ship out? Yes. And you might, okay, it's not a fit in Calgary. Montreal is going to give you a prospect in a second round or like, okay. Like, you're fine. It's that you've now locked in.

I said we should have done. Yeah, it's because you've locked into $84 million to a guy that really doesn't move the needle much. When you net out his poor defending with his better than average offense, you just, he's a guy. Yeah. For $84 million. in the cap universe. It's not MLB. You don't just spend more.

It's limiting how much talent you can put. When is the next CBA? There will never be more compliance about us. I don't know why people talk about this. Why? Owners don't want them. Sure, they do. No, they don't.

Yeah, they do. Give away your money and get nothing back and be asked to spend more. Just a one-time thing. They've had two or three CBAs and they haven't been back in for a reason. They're going to get it. I bet that. You're going to get it. So just from the owner's perspective, it's money out with nothing added and your GM is now asking you to spend more on the cap space you've opened.

That's why owners don't want it. Some owners would probably. It would help situations. You think of Foley and Vegas. Like there'd be some. Yeah. But as a whole, it is the league negotiating against the players. That will not be something that the league says we want this.

The players will ask in the leagues like, this is this cost you money. Why? So that guys get paid. But if you sign a contract, you're going to get paid. Okay, so let's say you've got $10 million of dead money on a guy that sucks like Hubert he gets a compliance buyout. He gets paid. He can go sign another contract.

Also, what happens to that $10 million to cap space? That gets paid on NHLPA players to get that team back to the cap. So it's creating more money. When you have a compliance buyout, you're spending more money on players than you would in a circumstance without one. Now, you weren't getting 100% of the money in a compliance buyout. Don't recall what it was. Two thirds, max, kind of.

But either way, like if Bill Foley opens up cap space, he's not keeping it. He's spending it. No, just in terms of would the player want to be bought out? That's exactly what you want. Yeah, it's the same reason they have a cap in the first place. Owners would love to spend more to win, but they understand that they are not good at controlling their spending. Why would they lobby for a cap? Well, because of this.

To save their wallets. But it saves their, well, it's deeper than that. It's franchise values because when you go and it gets, it's to make more money. So they'll make more money without compliance pilots. is basically long story short. CBA talk here for you today. Where's Pike who need them? Pike, get in the comments.

San Jose isn't. Yeah, they don't need any bioits. They got lots of caps face. No, not biots. I'm saying, would you rather talk? CBA or San Jose Charg. Henrik Zetterlin, welcome to town. He's been all right.

They've got a few decent young players, but it's very early in the rebuild there. You watch Anaheim and you can see, okay, Leo Carlson, pretty good players. Elwiger on the back end, Drysdale. he's there's there's a future here. I'm not sure where it is in San Jose. I don't see it yet.

It's coming. If it's celebrini this summer, you'll start seeing it, right? Yeah. It's kind of where Chicago was a year ago. Like who was a good young prospect Chicago had? But you get one mega studs. They've won those Stanley Cups and stuff too.

No, I mean, that's decade plus ago. I'm just talking about like right now in your life cycle, where are you? They're starting the rebuild. How many years have they missed the playoffs? Probably three, but the first one that pick went to Ottawa and they took Stutz Loh. Whoops.

Four. Yeah, well, and that could be the Vegas unprotected pick, right? Yeah, you never know. Unprotected, whoopsie, daisy. Unprotected picks. Was that Doug Wilson still at that time? Yeah, it was.

Do you. Well, they made the playoffs 16 out of 17 years. They did. And it's kind of like Kenny Holland at the end in Detroit. Like, you really do sacrifice a lot of the future for the present. And again, I'll stick to my guns.

I said it before. They nearly beat St. Louis and Carlson was hobbling around on one leg in that playoff series. St. Louis beats Boston in the final. That could have been their cup. All of it makes sense if they could do it. Marcus is in the chat. Driesdale went to Philly. Correct. He popped

into my mind just because I was in the last. I watched Philadelphia twice in the last three. Cutter Goce. Cutter Goce. It's Drysdale, essentially. Either way. So, hey, San Jose Flames. We went last year to game 82. Dustin Wolf, NHL debut. Yeah. We watched Zadorov,

Patrick. That will not happen tonight. No, they're not in action. Or ever again. Well, what's a playoff start? He's a playoff guy. I don't think that's happened. Just from I own, that I have in my notes, respective. Third and final meeting of the season between the two teams. All square?

Yeah, this will be it. The flames did exact revenge for that six three loss. They beat them three to two. Not that long ago, April 9th. They were down two nothing. Yeah, they were. And I was hammered at a curling wrap up, of course you were. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this will be. Didn't want to move up in the inverse standings, huh? Rubber match of sorts tonight. It's been circled. Yeah. It's been circle. You know why it's been circled?

They got their fucking flights to Costa Rica on Sunday. This is the last workday. Nice thing about these guys. So you can BJ it right out of town. Oh, yeah. So you mean we got to go back and do locker clean out and media stuff? Have you ever been on a private chat? You know?

You've been on PJ? Well, no. Retro? Yeah. Like a 6.20. Oh, look it, like it. I assume so, but we're going to be on a private. Yeah.

Well, there are different levels of PJ as well. Like I PJ'd a flight for my mom and I to go to her friends and my friend's wedding in Montana because there was no way of there was a little. Fraught plane. Yeah. Puddle jumper. So. Yeah.

I told the story about Rageir sending the jets to Winnipeggeek. With a turkey and a hot tub. Yeah. Which is, again, if you've not heard the story, it's a little long one. It's a top 20. It's a Christmas store. Yeah, Christmas time. We'll get into it.

Nossom Cadry would love to get a goal tonight. Not the only one. Mackenzie Weger would love to get a goal tonight. I think they'd love to get a goal, but I'm going to say this. It's not, I don't know that it's as big a deal for them as it is for the guy last night that was trying to score. I was going to say, yeah. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, yeah, I think they'd like to.

It's a nice plateau to hit. 20, 30, yeah. It's not 70. No, it's not a record thing. It's not, it's a personal achievement. And also, we don't know the status. I don't know the status of Coleman at this point, but if he plays, he's won away from 30.

It sounded like he was going to get in. He was hopeful to get in today. He wouldn't be playing if he wasn't at 29. I'll tell you that. Yeah. He also would be playing if it was winning you're in the playoffs. I think he's definitely in that great area. So that's, I mean, that's,

and of course what we're talking about is, what, one away from 30? Weeger is one away from 20. Yeah. No. Weger's really? 20 goals. Yeah.

Coleman won away from 30. Weger's already got his 50 points. Cadre at 33 years of age. You hit 30 for a third time in his career would be quite an achievement. It's a wasted year. There's a lot of them. When you talk about Markstrom and that, also in that mix is Nazim Kodry. Weger for sure.

Weiger at age 30. That's a career year at age 30. Yeah. Be the next Jordano, please. That'd be great. And some guys didn't waste much. the aforementioned Huberto. Oh, that's a different kind of waste.

It's a forgotten year for. That's a waste of cap space. Andrew Mangrapani really is. Really underwhelming. Yeah. Like to the point of now we've got an issue. $5 million player. Manjapani.

Yeah. I mean, I think teams would take him at half. So if your issue is you move him at half retention for a pick, you can solve it. The Huberto issue is seven years and you can't solve it. It's got so different magnitudes of issue. The here, the Huberto issue is non, it's not an issue. It's your reality. It's just shuffle it over.

You know, you push things down or under the rug. That's where that one goes. What is it? Yeah. You just push it down. Yeah. There's no talk about it. Don't need to worry about it. It just is what it is.

So they're at the G, the GM and management meetings at the end of the year when they go through everybody's, they finish and they. They flip the page and Hubertow's name comes up and it's just, yeah, don't need to discuss. Next. Yeah, who's coming in? Oh, uh, Madjapani. Okay. Well, have a good summer.

Can you be better next year or where are you, where are you at? Can you have the second half in both halves next year and then you might be a 65 point guy? Did he have? Or are you talking? Oh, Huberto. Yeah. Sorry, did we switch top. Well, we don't talk about Huberto because Hubertos over.

Yeah, that's the one we've pushed it so far down. What is that? It's like Fight Club, like the first to roll about Hubertos. you don't talk about Huberto. The second rule about Hubertos, you do not talk about Huberto. Do you have that, the chart thing again?

Okay, so here, Florida's here. Let's go back to, for Manjapan. Are you sweating? This is a bad shirt for me. Jesus. It's a great shirt.

It's a great shirt. Okay, so 1920 season, Andrew Magiapani, 17 goals. 1920. Okay. Well done. The next year, 18.

That's all right. The next year 35. Oh. The next year, 17. this year 14. Basically there's a one-year outlier. When was that?

When was what? The 35. The two seasons. 21, 22. I'm saying out of his contract, and I'm asking, he was a free agent that year. And that's what he got 5.8

2. Weird. Yeah, no, you're not paying a 17 goal at it. The show had 115 points. Cachuk 104, a 42 goal season for Elias Lindholm, 35 for Manjapani. 50 points on the back end for Rath. Thomas Anderson, 48 for Noah Hannifin.

Woo! You! What! Yo! One of those years, everything went right. Same thing happened when they won the West. You had all those guys with big years. But isn't it odd?

Like, Jacob March. There was a 922 save percentage. He had eight shutouts or nine shutouts that year? Nine. Yeah, second in Vesna voting, I think. Was that right? So, uh, so long ago, it seems. Two years.

Hmm. And, uh, from that team, three forwards, two defensemen and one goalie remain. And the goalie wants to leave, I'm sure. Maybe. I mean, I think to be fair, the team would like him to leave if he could return a huge hall. I don't think he wants to stay here. I think he wants to win. And I think if this team was in a position to do that, he'd want to be here.

It's not about the city or the lifestyle. It's about where you're, what are you playing for next year? Yeah. So are you going to pitch 15 shutouts? Because if you can do that. Not with this decor, no. Oh. No, I think it's the team and the player wants the same.

thing here. Get him to a spot where he can compete for a cup and get a haul for the flames. You're looking up numbers again, Dee? I'm trying to just find it. It was a talk to me. Tweet from earlier sakes. Tweet, tweet. Just talking about the

run that Markstrom has been on since the you're going to New Jersey. No, actually, you're not going to New Jersey. Here it is. From James Johnson. James Johnson, Y, I see. Jacob Markham since the... Jimmy Johnson. Record of 1 and 7, a 3.55 goals against an 870 save percentage.

He's done with Calgary, and I don't blame him. That's the James, James assertion. And I wouldn't necessarily jump to that conclusion. I mean, if you look at anyone's numbers since they- You know, if you look at the goaltending numbers since they moved the second pair, like it's, there's everyone's a three-point-something and everyone's an 8. an 800 and something. Like it's just,

this is not an NHL D-Core. They deleted a very good defensive second pair that frankly could be a top pair on poor teams. Like Hanover and Tanav are, like that's a very, very good pair. Yeah, they're gone. And actually I saw your buddy J. Fresh, he was doing some pre and post-trade deadline comparisons.

Yep, Tenev still Tenev. Tenev was really good. Has improved. Oh. Yeah, I don't think they're using as much on the penalty kill. and it's something like a 93% he's an elite defender he's a he's a top 10 defenseman in terms of when he's on the ice chances other teams create or almost no

he's an he's an eraser defensively and congrats to tan avon the dallas stars they wrap up their fifth western conference title last night way to go yeah yeah beat the blues by a score of two to one that's close to the end eight 20 goal scorers for Dallas this year depth then yep okay And they will play the, I will tell you tomorrow. We'll tell you later. Later tonight. What it did do was lock in Vancouver, Nashville, round one.

Yes. Second ever series, the last time Nashville got bludgeoned by the Canoxian 1011 playoff, I believe it was. They're already bitching with the travel, by the way. It's, you care, but. Well, I saw the tweet, yeah, it's more travel than all the Eastern series combined. Yeah, and you guys are giving me heat for suggesting Nashville was in the east. I mean, it is barely central time zone.

It is east of Detroit, I believe. I'm giving you heat because you said it was in the eastern. I just thought it was, yeah. But it's not. I mean, it's further east than teams in the east, but yeah. So it's east. So are we wrong? No, you're right.

You made me seem like two eyeballs, three eyeballs, though, because it was like, well, no, it's a way out of east. You are up to date on everything in the NHL and you said they were in the east. Yeah. They're not in the east. I can't really win that one, can I? No, you're trying.

Like you brought it back to the table. just now. Yeah, so here's the flames goalies since the trade deadline. Wolf's at 900 with a 293 and he's 5 and 4. There you go. And people are shitting all over this guy saying he's not a NHO, he's too short. Look at this loser. Jacob

marks from 1 and 7, 3.55, 870. And then Dan Vladar, O.N2, 7.8, 827. He'll injured. Two bad games. Like, Dustin Wolf has been their best goalie by a significant margin since they moved the second pair. And that's not a shot

at anyone. It's pointing out how bad that environment's been for a goalie since they sold their second pair for futures. Yeah, I would think the quality of scoring chance has gone up for the opponent. If I was an analytics guy, know that. Yeah,

like safe to say, Danil Miramanov and Nikita Hoich or Okotokes or whatever we're saying, they're not as good at defense as Hanofen and Tannav. Yet they do have to play those minutes. You know what? It's Conroy's fault. Do better.

Look, he got some good assets. We just have to wait for them now. You didn't trade them for players now. You traded for futures. We're waiting for the future now. You got to see what those firsts and seconds and prospects turn out. Are we at all concerned? Like now this has played out.

And again, I think it has to play out this way. But are we all, is there any trepidation about how we, like you just said, Anaheim, you feel like there's. a good young players. San Jose has been on the players for three years and you're like, I'm sure there's something there, but I have yet, it doesn't seem as are we at all concerned with where the flames are? I mean, concerns wrong work.

If you thought that you could rebuild without being bad for a few years, you're blind. And we all knew that they had to rebuild. So what you are going into is at least a few years where you should be as bad or worse as what you watch this year. they had Vesna caliber gold sending until they got rid of a second pair. They probably don't get Vesna caliber goaltending next year.

And they certainly won't have a second pair as good as Hanna Finn and Tanniv. I guess you're also not going to get a career year from Coleman again. Okay. I'm just saying as far as the plethora of young talented superstars that are going to come up through the ranks here.

Because I feel like two of them got plucked this year and have done quite well. In Zara and Popsis? Yeah. There's one guy that's back in the minors that had injuries and we were hopeful for. Peltzzi's had a tough. After that, are we, whatever. Coronado I have high hopes for.

He had a really good year in the A. And I know people are going to focus on the NHL numbers. I think that's silly. I think if he's on a team like Boston or Vegas, he spends the whole year in the A and you're like, look at this prospect. He's over a point per game in the A. And he was just in college.

That's so exciting. But the problem was here, you had him up. And he wasn't really. ready to be up. I think he's ready to have a good NHL season. The thing of it is, too, is two years ago, they were a playoff team and made it to round two. Anaheim's

been bad for a while. I just wanted to look. They, last year, they took Leo Carlson, who was already playing for them. Great player. Took him at second overall. Yeah, really good play. The year before, Minkiekoff, who's playing, he went at 10, Mason McTabish at 3, Jamie Drysdale at

6, Zegras at 9. They've had a handful of Top tens. A couple top fives in there. Yeah. And so the difference there, because that kind of feels like Edmonton, right? They just kept rolling out top 10 picks,

but there wasn't a support system. Like, tell me about the good vets in San Jose. Mark Edward Vlasic. So I'm just saying, point out the difference. I'm not comparing, we're comparing Calgary. Right. So my point is that what they don't have is Backland, Coleman, Weiger, Anderson.

That's what San Jose is missing. And that's what the flames are going to bring kids to play with. That's the difference. my point but the point yeah is when are they going to be good well at what level are when you hear Leo Carlson

it's unmistakable that it's going to be a great how many years what do we have you don't have that that's the guy you want that's the guy you hope to draft it eight or nine

we're higher this year and so if you feel like the cupboards are empty with the high end stuff it is because you're traded away Lindholm, Tenev Hanofan and the principal pieces back are draft picks you haven't made yet.

Terrible decision by us to support this. No, no, that's good. Trust me, you're going to be really excited at the end of June when they get up to the podium and you get a really good player. Just don't screw it up, Connie. And Sam Hansick's been hurt all year, so that's a tough, tough environment. Yeah, but last year. Pardon me?

Don't screw it up like. No, last year's not a script. Are we concerned about it? It's a lost season. I mean, you should be as concerned about Hansick's year as you were about Zeri's first year after being drafted. the things that you liked and drafted him for are all still there. He just hasn't played.

Yeah, you don't have anything to be excited. Yeah, like, at this, at his age, like, you got kids coming into this window. They just need to play to get better. And when you go through three or four significant injuries over the course of a year and a half, like you're just missing time to get better. Played 33 games for Vancouver, 10 goals, 31 points. Yeah, and I heard his playoffs was not as dominant as you like to see, he likes him to take a little more charge.

But he also knows he's going to the Wranglers. wonder if that's a distraction and he is and he might play this weekend. It's not been a good year, but it doesn't mean he can't be a good player. Fine. Stop yelling. Am I yelling? Yeah, you're very defensive. Wow.

It's just people want to run the jury. But it comes back to the original point is, okay, so it's a rebuild. Call it. We don't say the R word, no, it's a rebuild. Yeah, especially the Moom-Marxham, right? So how long until you can consider the flames to be? a perennial playoff team. Like making the playoffs isn't a shock.

It's expected. That's not the barometer. I think, can I interrupt you there, though, a little bit? Yeah, that's the barometer.

Half. Half what? I'm confused. Half the league. So you think you're going to be a perennial playoff team. Well, half.

Yeah, you should. You got to be in the, you should be striving to be more than just a playoff team. Because half the league. But it's hard. Half the league doesn't make.

My point is this can be. So I would say the big difference, if you want to call this a retool or rebuild or whatever, if you keep Markstrom, that changes things. Because you're going to be too good to get a shitty pick? No, because at least you have something where you can get outplayed and still win. And we saw it a fair amount with Markey this year when he was hot.

And it's not been a good month since month or two, but you cannot forget how awesome he was this year. That was with those two D men too, though, right? And they were one point out of a playoff. spot on Feb 16. So my point is, is that if you move him, this is a full-fledged rebuild. Because you cannot expect what Jacob Markstrom gave you this year. You can't expect to get that next year if he's gone. And the thing is, too, you might not be expected anyway. It's whether Markstrom does he come back for sure, but you talked about his numbers already since

the trade deadline that they have not been good wolf has been better. What are they going to do on the back end? Are they going to try and bring in a couple of free agents or is it going to be the year where it's 20 minutes a night for Miramanov and who else is out there. Yeah, safe to say if another team's number eight is now your top four? You know, guy coming in like

a couple years. A PCO guy plays in the third pair. They got a million options for their pair. They need to go spend in free agency to get a top four guy or they're wasting their time. So if they don't go out and get bona fide NHL defensemen, then it could be, regardless

whether Markstrom's here or not. You look like, I mean, look, they had a lot of things go right this year and they're going to pick, you know, eight or nine and heading into the lottery balls. Even Markstrom hasn't put two seasons like he's had this year together. If you just acknowledge that once the second pair was gone, it was a different job that he had before. So with that in mind, I just think if you can get a return, you've got to move Markstrom this summer. And then there's another set of assets that are in that window that you can grow with. in three, four years should be guys that helped the NHL roster significantly. Not Leo Carlson getting his feet wet.

Leo Carlson point per game number one center. So you don't, we don't want to make the playoffs. We don't want them to make the playoffs. We've always said that. It's just even the same this year. And you were in a weird situation because you actually played well. And if you felt you could have kept those defensemen and that they'd have stayed, that you might have kept them and fought to try and get in the playoffs.

So I think you muddied the water this year. and they did what they had to do. But because you had those extra points and because Markston played so well, they weren't in a position to get a top five. They tried for a while and it looked like that might happen. But I think you have to. In actuality, this rebuild started three months ago,

no sooner. So we can't expect them to be good if it's only three months old. They still had Lindholm, Tanev, Hanofin, and were a hot run from a playoff spot three months ago. This is very, very early days. one expecting this to turn around next year or the year after has no clue what's going on or you know, you're asking for the one out of a hundred outlier season because it's just, this is just beginning. We've been talking about it forever, but they didn't move Lindholm

until February. I would say this. I would say that the three of us have seen it coming. Yeah. Of course, we've seen the necessity for it. Yeah. Really, to your point, this. Your months in. They were going to try and make the playoffs and see how it goes. And then it became, well, you're going to have to trade Lindholm because he's not playing very well anyway. they were trying to sign Hanifan, trying to sign Tannav. That was all still happening and whether you agree with it or not.

One last push to get Hanofin. That was two months ago. Yeah. Once Lindholm was traded. That in, I think, to your point, that's when you can mark down.

That's when the rebuild started. Because even the Defolio one was kind of a lot of present, not a lot of future. Like Sharonovich jumps into the top six on the roster immediately. That wasn't like we're trading, you know,

something down the road that's going to help us. You could maybe even argue even in the Lindholm because you got, because you got, But you get a first and two prospects and another conditional pick. So that to me, what were the dates we were there? Was it Feb 2? Yeah, right around there.

Like that was deadline that we were in Toronto. So let's call it Feb 1. March, April. We're two and a half months into this. Anyone's saying it's taking too long? It just started. No, I don't think anyone's saying that. It's just the question of, so how long is the pain?

Yeah. How much pain before you turn the corner? Well, and I also think, listen, if we were in a top five position for to draft this year, you would immediately go because I think it chunks out. Top five picks feel like you've got a real chance at a superstar. Yeah. Five to ten, you're going to get a hell of a player.

10 to 15, solid, right? Like, and there's always outliers and it's not always the case. But you do feel that way going into a draft. Like if we're sitting here going, we're getting a top five pick,

you're analyzing, oh my God, like what do I mean? This guy. Oh, top five, right? Yeah.

It's, it's a different. You look at the dry saddle draft year, and what was it? Eklad 1, Reinhardt 2, and Drysidal 3. Am I correct there? Should I have to top of my head? Eklad was 1. Sam Ryanhart to Buffalo 2.

Yeah, I believe that's right. And so you're like, shit, like, and then four is Sam Bennett, who has become a middle six center. Five is Michael Dal Cole. There's a huge ledger, but every draft class has all these different ledges. And I think the good news for the Calvary Flames is that there is no consistency on lists between two and 10. there's five different defensemen that I've seen almost in five different orders in the sense that the Salaviev six foot seven kid in Russia is the top rank guy by Central Scouting. He's the lowest rank to the five by someone else.

You know, there's two college guys, there's two OHL guys. Those are just the defensemen. I see them in different orders the whole way. I believe at eight or nine they can still get what we would typically call a top five caliber player. And again, there's a game breaker. Like he's last night, I heard talking to people that watched a game. like he is an absolute scoring machine. That is not typically what you can find 8, 9, 10, 11.

That's probably where he goes. This is a good year for the Flames to pick 8, 9 from people that know more than me that I've talked to. Because there just isn't consensus beyond Celebrini at 1. There might be five teams and five different guys you take second. Time will tell. Lucky for you guys. I'm patient.

And the great news is they have needs in all areas. So they don't have to worry about you. Actually, you're right. That was one thing I was going to say while you were talking there was, I think the saddest part is that we feel like Wolf's going to be your goalie. So you're like, okay, you can kind of be hopeful that that turns out.

You got two defensemen, but it takes a, like, you need six. Yeah. Well, and by the time you develop a defenseman, Rasmus might be gone, let's be honest. If he wants to win, look around, like, it wouldn't be crazy that he's gone. And my centerman.

34 and 35, 33 and 35. Yeah. And even at the wing, do you look at Xerian Pospels? Well, we're good. No. We don't have a need. Like Coronado is probably a second line winger. You don't have top line wingers. When you look at the Flames for groups, it looks like a lot of third liners. There's going to be a real drum beat for for Teage. There's going to be a lot of people holding their breath, I think. They'd love to see it happen. Yeah. And look, there's going to be a lot of good players in the top 10 here.

there's going to be a lot of franchise caliber defensemen. There's going to be a couple elite centers that you can count on to be great. And there's a couple wingers that can pile up goals. I mean, you just, what you can't have is the RICO Fada, Daniel Kachuk thing, where you draft inside the top 10 and there's nothing. That's the only thing you can't do here. It still happens too. Not to say that it will, but it.

We just said that dry settle draft class two picks later, Michael Del Cole. Michael Del Cole. And he wasn't the only one in the top 10 that was just made. Yeah. They will, I bet you for you and you love doing it. I do. I actually was doing it last night. There you go.

You need to do a show where you just do that. You eat food and you just go through drafts. I was looking at, uh, because remember when Logan Patrick was taken. I went second overall. Nolan Patrick. Or Nolan, sorry. Nolan Patrick. Didn't like pizza, red flag.

Yeah. And then still Vegas traded for him. They traded Cody Glass to go get him. It was issue for issue. Right. Because glass was the same. He was a highly touted, I believe top 10 pick that just. It was change of scenery for both.

Is he doing anything? No. Is he not? No. I have not heard his name. Maybe, believe. I mean, is he retired? Are you being coy?

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Yeah. It was in Portage last year, wasn't it? Because it used to be the name of a bank cup, but that's not there anymore, right? It's the RBC Cup Was it? National Championship for Junior A. So was RBC not around?

Well, that's what I was implying, yeah. Sponsorship, I'm not sure. I hope RBCs. Yeah, they're doing fine. I mean, I hope they're okay. Yeah, the Centennial Cup. Where are we going? Road trip.

It was formerly known as the Royal Bank Cup from 96 to 2018. So there you are. Do you know where it is this year? Because it was in Manitoba last year. My kid, Chad Allen's boy. Oh, yeah. Played in it. with Battleford.

North? No. Or south? No, there's no south. There's only north. Only North Battleford. And Battleford. And Battleford.

The Battlefords. Yeah. The. Near Jackfish. Just scroll on it. You didn't find it. We tried to stall. You want me to stall?

It's in Oakville, Ontario. Oakville. I played in Oakville this year. Essentially what, great of Toronto, right? It's like a piss out of the old Oakville Rangers. Did you? Yeah, that's right.

Nice. How far if we want to get to downtown Toronto are we from Oakville? It's not like 40 minutes an hour. Or is it great of Toronto, basically? Yeah, 40 minutes. Coming to Oketokes in 2025. No, I don't believe it is. It was going to be.

No, hey. Yeah. What's happening here with the. Look at this guy. There's been two very stealthy coffee deliveries. And also worth noting that 50% of the people in the room, wearing shorts today which minus three

feels like minus 10 was what I walked in today look at the there they are there they are them gams on old gams hey jack summer just get into it oh yeah yeah now did you say you maybe overestimated the

yeah it was a brief look out the window I saw the sun very sunny oh it's the blue sky city blue sky city I saw the sun BS city that's us. Next week is short week, though. 17, 18, 19.

I thought you were talking about it. I think we should take a day off, Jack. That's the boss. Short week. Short week. We're taking Monday or Friday, boys. Or both. That'd be a real short week.

Short shorts. Well, the playoffs start. We're going to be busy, so we're going to need some downtime. We're going to dig in. We do have some of the scheduling announced. The NHL has two games Saturday and two games Sunday for Eastern Conference foes laid out. The weather's going to be.

shitty. I'm very okay with how this is going to go. Is it going to be? Oh, yeah. It's cold and not nice. I think Tuesday, Monday, Tuesday, we get into the teens and nice weather. There's Frank the tank with a Frank bomb. The playoffs will begin at 5 p.m. Saturday. Five? Where?

Zoot a Lord! Pat Roy. Pat Roy. Taken on. Rod the Bod! That's a good coaching match up there. Who would you take in a cage fight? It's always Roy. I don't think that long.

I'll tell you what, Rod. That's mean, though. Pat doesn't play by the rules. I was just going to say, Rod Brindamore, lean, tough. Yeah. You can take a few shots. But Patrick Waugh, there's nothing that's off. He's got the razor blade tucked in the belt or some sort of like weapon.

When he came on the old show, I saw how he can act. That's right. His temper. I would not go. Yes, that's right. He'll be going down into the trunks. Furious. A handful of.

A foreign object. It's a vicious man. Yeah. It's got a screwdriver roll. up in his belt. That's right. Yeah. Brass knucks. Saturday night. This is good. Does it get better than this? Right into the scar tissue. Leafs and Bruins, Saturday night, 6 p.m. Calgary time. That's go. Hockey night in Canada in Boston.

Six being in Calgary. Beautiful. Beautiful. And then Sunday a little bit early, 1030 in the morning, Rhett. It's brunch. It's an omelet and... Mamosis. Yeah. And that's not going to be any evening hockey Sunday. No. No, I mean, I shouldn't say that. When we get the, when we get the Western Conference matchup, you could theoretically drop in Edmonton on Sunday, but it sounds like that might be Monday is what some nerds are. Well, Monday is a great day for. I feel for the Oilers. They don't won't get that big gate on a Monday. It's a little less booze to the sweathogs. And then, yeah, the matinee is a one o'clock caps and Rangers. You should be there, right? New York, Sunday, 1 p.m. I don't know if I'll be there Sunday, but Tuesday I might if they play Tuesday.

or Wednesday. I thought you were, because I remember I talked to you about going to Madison Square Garden to watch game and he's like, I've been to MSG, I don't need to go back, I'm not going there.

I was going to take my kid. Yeah. Have you, as your kid warmed up on the Panthers yet? You're going to, he's warm on the Panthers. He's just, it's Stanley Cup Finals Panthers.

You got to talk about your parents in here. Even if there wasn't a Panthers game, he doesn't want to go to Florida with dad for like, two, three days? Just there. Like, feeding the sand? He just,

he actually said three days. How old is he? We were just there. How old is he? 12. I was going to say bikinis, but a little young for that. Florida's a nice place.

Sure is. He should want to go there. I do. Yeah. Maybe it's not about his kid and the Panthers at all. No, it's really bad. It's a sneaky way to do things.

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oh, eh, or when he was putting together the Pinder report. Before we get to the Pender Report, don't we have a guest in two minutes? In a couple minutes? Well, we'll see if the guest arrives, yeah. Okay. do we have confirmation from guests we're looking good yes latest community oh so jack we've got the jack stamp of approval here nice very good all right i knew i sent him that info well like 20 minutes ago i mean red's technically correct yes did send it he just sent it to the wrong person and at the

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I don't know what was also a member of the, Arizona Coyotes, maybe very emotional night for him last night, but we're pleased to welcome to the show. Former Calgary Hipman, great. Indeed. Andrew Lab. Welcome to the program, lad. How are you? Sir.

Good, guys. How are you doing? Good. Were you emotional with Arizona last night? It was tough on the fans there, the 2,500 fans at Muller Arena. Oh, what's a shot. You know what, man, I feel like having my kids played were involved. in, you know, the hockey programs there when we were there.

Yeah. You know, the training staff, all the support staff of the team. I think when you're around the organization like that, those are the people that I was thinking about yesterday. You know, my kids have lots of friends there that are, you know, they're pretty bummed that they're losing their, their NHL team that they've grown up watching. So, yeah, it's, it's, I think it's bittersweet. I think the opportunity to go to Salt Lake and, you know, play in an NHL-sized building.

again right away. I think most guys, I would assume, are excited about that. But it's bittersweet, I think the relationships you make in those cities. And like I said, the community that's started because of the coyotes will suffer a bit. What did you see? Because you were a thrasher that moved to Winnipeg. Obviously, we know how excited everyone was in Winnipeg. But what kind of, you know, were they melancholy in Atlanta? Or what was the emotion there when you guys, when it was, and it was very short. I guess you guys didn't have that. It's our last game.

there was it was very quick it happened really quick um like we were completely unaware like i found out you know watching you know sports net or ts n or whatever it was it was like hey you're moving and i was like oh you know holy crap that'll turn your life upside down a little bit um so yeah i think different situations you know obviously like the arena situation in Arizona not having a facility where you could house, you know, a legitimate NHL crowd was probably a main point of contention. And Atlanta,

you know, I think just the lack of success. It was an interesting dynamic where I think when they bought the team, it was a package deal with the NBA team and the Hawks and the thrashers. So you had owners that were completely invested in, in the success of the hockey team. It was more so the basketball team. which played a role in that.

So, yeah, it's, like I said, a bittersweet moment for the relationships you make in those seasons that time. But then, hey, you get to look forward to, you know, people don't buy NHL teams to, you know, just to be average. So I think you get excited about an owner who wants an NHL team who, in my mind, is going to put a lot of money into making those facilities great and making sure the experience is great for those players. So as a player, you're excited.

excited about that. And anytime you're going to a new city, fans are pretty, pretty pumped that they have a new sports franchise in their, in their city and something to look forward to. So if you were asked, I've sort of seen three camps on it. It's like hockey will never work in the desert. The extreme opposite is when they have the right owner in the right rank, it's going to be an absolute slam dunk. And the third position is kind of like, we'll see. Where would you put yourself out of those three groups? Oh, yeah. I think it's, it's so hard to know with, with, Every team that is suffered, I look back in my career and, you know, the teams that have ranks in poor locations have struggled. So I think it's hard to really gauge, you know, just from the standpoint of the population there, the, you know, the weather, the city is very sports heavy.

Yeah, definitely can work. But they need that arena in the right location. I think Tempe was that location. Unfortunately, that that didn't work out. So I wouldn't be surprised to see it, hockey going back there, because it is ripe with a good team and an arena in the right location. I think it could have a lot of success.

Don't want to bury the lead. We've got you on today. You're part of an event that's coming to town in May. Why don't you give us some of the details on what's happening with you? Yeah, so we have an event called Hockey Fest. It is May 25th. So essentially just a massive outdoor road hockey experience for all ages at Max Bell Center. So it runs pretty much all day, I think 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.

And we are raising funds for 1616, which is the primary initiative of our foundation. And it focuses on the social, emotional well-being development of young 10 to 12 year old hockey players. Gotcha. We were talking, we talked because we have kids. All of us kind of have kids in that wheelhouse. And it's in some ways kids have it so great.

And at the same time, it's tough being a kid with so much out there, the internet and everyone. There's not much that's off limits for kids. And it can be hard sometimes. Yeah, I think like sports is a very unique way. to deliver a lot of like life lessons. You know, it's, it's, you're, you make mistakes.

There's always another opportunity right away to, to, to look forward to the next opportunity. You have to learn how to work and connect with teammates and work for, for a common goal. You have to understand, like, where confidence comes from and how you build that. So there's so many different dynamics within the game. And really, like, our program focuses on how do we, how do we be really intentional with those moments? as coaches, as parents, how do we teach our kids that, hey, like this, you know, part of playing sports is learning a lot of these life lessons. And, you know, as a parent, I want my kid in sports to, you know, hey, like, I want them

to have success, but I also want them to learn to be great humans and thrive in the community and all those life lessons that we know sports can bring. So really our program is about being really intentional and a resource for parents, coaches, and the kids to learn those things from current and former professional hockey players. Great stuff. Website, just with more details on the event for the 25th or the 1616 Foundation. Yeah, so they can go to 1616.org at the very top. You can click a link to register and sign up for Hockey Fest.

They've done the event in multiple locations across North America. It's been a massive success. So it's super excited to partner with them to bring this to Calgary. We had, I think, over 110 teams go through our program in Alberta alone last year. So there's been a great amount of support from Calgary specifically and Alberta as a whole. So just looking to cultivate more of an experience for people of Calgary and really the youth of Calgary as well. Well, I jumped online this morning just to, you know, we're very familiar with you, watched your career in that. And it's, I guess, Alex Ovechkin draft.

What do you think as a guy who was taking three picks after Ovi, who's had his another 1830 goals seasons. Mall can still play, and Blake Wheeler is still there too. But watching what Ovi's doing, you as much as anybody would have a great appreciation for it. Yeah, it's fun to watch it. You know, having been away for a couple years,

you're like, holy crap, those guys are still playing. And thriving, right? Even Sid, right? We came in the same year and he puts up 90 plus points this year. So I think it just speaks to the level of player that they are and how special their careers are, you know, for O'Bie to be doing what he's doing at his age. Obviously, everyone understands his shot. But I think the commitment and demand it takes on your body to stick with it and stay true to your craft. It's been fun to watch.

So, yeah, I think as you step away from the game, you're, you're cheering. for those older guys that are still having success in the game and hoping that it continues. It feels like people are kind of rooting for him. I didn't know if that was going to be the case as he got closer to the Gretzky record. I feel like now, you knew Wayne was going to be gracious about it and say that it's great for the game. But I feel like people legitimately would love to see it happen. It's hard to argue that he isn't the greatest goal scorer that we've ever seen. Yeah, I think it's great for the game.

I mean, even, you know, Austin Matthews and trying to get 70 goals the other night and Kooch and McDavid hit in 100 assists. Like it's fun to be a part of seasons and watching guys do special things that haven't been done in a long time. So for a record that I think, you know, everybody thought would never be broken to have a chance and an opportunity

that only brings more eyes to our game from, you know, especially in the non-traditional hockey markets that are paying attention to this guy that might break Wayne Gretzky's record. Yeah, it's fun to just to be a fan of the game and watch that. where are you now what's keeping you busy and do you do it take a while to get back into watching hockey did you need a little break at the end i know a lot of guys need to just fully leave it alone before they

can come back as a fan again yeah i've um so now a lot of my time is is you know being a dad and coaching um so i coach a lot of all my kids they're all in hockey and um i got a lot going on with the foundation and trying to build that um as as the founder and the other thing i'm doing is actually, I just recently in the last year got into performance coaching, so sports performance coaching. So I'm working with a lot of young athletes. That's a great experience at the end of my career. The last four years working with a super talented coach out of Calgary actually named Dan, Dan Leffler. So he's with a group called Novus Global. And I enjoyed that experience and felt the impact so much that I was like, hey, this is something that I would love to do

for other athletes and for other people. So I've transitioned into that, which is, is helped with, you know, as Rhett would say, like just finding a routine and something to do and really a purpose to life after hockey. So, so far, so good. And I'm enjoying what I'm doing. And it's, it's a fun conversation to be in. I thought about that guys like you that you've played, you played a thousand games, retro over, you know, 700 games. And then it's just over. And we saw Jeff Carter. And Carter's won everything. I mean, there's no, no one's going to shed a tear for Jeff Carter leaving hockey has been very good to him but man it's been day to day it's been your life for whatever it was 19 years and then it's just over like that and you will spend time with

your kids and your family and all that but i wonder about guys like you and we always we ask red all the time it's the eve of the playoffs or it's the start of training camp or what it what it's like i wonder for a guy like carter where it's just been his playoffs were always hard for everything playoffs starting you get the juices float again you're like damn it i want to be out there right yeah it's definitely those moments then you try to find those in different different ways i mean i had fun coach my kids in that competitive you know competitive juices start coming up again um yeah to me it was funny you said like the i took a year and i didn't watch much hockey i you know took a lot of time away from just being around it

besides uh my kids um but as i as i work more with kids and as i just in the space of working with athletes and on the mental side of the game and and um in their performance uh it's It's like, oh, I got the itched again to, like, help them. So I'm trying to find, hey, like, how do I help others achieve those things that I was able to do? And you end up watching more games. Can I interrupt you there? Because you talk about it. The parents, they'll go get a trainer, and they'll get a skating coach, and they'll get a nutritionist, and they'll get all this stuff.

And they want the kids to have success, and they're trying to give them everything. Would you say that what you're offering is one of the few things that parents and kids in general overlook? because, I mean, for me, coming up, there was none of that. None of it was available. You went and ran down the street. That was your workout. You did a bench or the squat and that, you kind of, that was it. It's, there's so much out there nowadays that it's, it can be overwhelming for parents and for kids.

And that part, the mental aspect part is often the one piece that no one pays attention to. Yeah. And to me, it's, it's the most important piece. Um, because that's informing all your decisions. of like the training you're doing, how you're showing up on the ice, what you're reading, right? If you're not clear on like essentially why, like what's the purpose behind all this stuff? And does that actually excite you as an athlete?

Then it's kind of pointless. So to me, towards the end of my career, like when I started doing it, I was like, holy crap, I wish I had this when I was younger. It just filled a lot of the gaps that I didn't even realize were there as an athlete and so and a lot of times as parents I think we get so focused on hey like I want my kid to be best and I don't want them to fall behind and um you know it's like hey are they having fun because I know like and it's funny because like it never goes away right I've talked to guys in the NHL and same conversation they're like oh like they're they're just going nose the grind

stone working their butts off and I'm like are you like are you enjoying what you're doing and they're like, no, right? It's like, well, like, by the way, that, that can be a performance enhancing drug. Like, talk to anybody. If they enjoy what they're doing, they show up differently. They show up excited. They're more determined, all those different things.

So if you're numb to that, man, it's, it's pointless and actually, you know, a detriment to what you're up to. So I think it's good to like have parents realize that aspect of it is like, hey, when we pull the fun out of it, especially when we're talking about kids playing the game, they're not going to stick with it. they don't love it, they're not going to stick with it. They're not going to work hard at it. And all those things it actually takes.

And Rhett would know this to make it to the next level in those moments when it's, it's painful and there's adversity. You need a reason to push through that stuff. And if you actually truly enjoy what you're up to, you'll do that. With the week that we had, we do this show every day. So watching the playoff races and that, we kind of very quickly became Red Wing fans, watching them tie it and then get it in overtime and then tie it again. Racing those deficits?

What was it like watching your old boy, Patty Kane? Jeez. Oh, dude, yeah. I was so happy from. I think everybody after last, you know, like I said, as an older guy, you start to maybe have a tough season. Everybody's like, hey, that's it, right? It doesn't have it anymore.

And I know how special I got to sit beside that guy for a few years and watch and prepare and show up in big games in big moments time and time again. So I'm super happy that he was able to have the season come back from that, that surgery and come back and have the season that he had this year. But it was funny. I was watching my daughter's playing softball. And I had, I had the game up on my phone. And I was like, you know, they tie it.

And then, you know, 20 seconds later, Philly pulls the goalie and kind of ruined it. But so the, but it was good, good drama, man. I think it's fun to have that type of excitement going to the end of the regular season for fans. Okay. So you play for the Islanders, you played for the Cains, you played for the Jets, Vancouver is the hometown. Do you have a horse this year? Who would excite you the most?

Or you just like sit back, pop the corn and enjoy? I think, yeah, I mean, I'm root like former teams and former teammates. I think you're always rooting for those guys. So Winnipeg, you know, the Islanders, got a lot of friends there still. I don't know, man. There's a team in terms of like that I like. I just love, I like the depth of Dallas in the West. I think they're super deep all the way through the lineup.

In the east, yeah, I'm rooting for my old teammate and Rod Brindamore and Carolina. I'd love to see them get it done again. But, you know, I think Florida plays an exciting brand of hockey that, you know, they could get over the edge this year too. I'm sure that there's other cases and you go around the national hockey league and there's some beloved coaches. But I just watch Brindamore behind the bench and you'd be able to speak to it. I just feel like I'm not sure if there's a team where the players would play harder or play more for their coach than those guys have to for Brindamore. They love that guy.

Yeah, I, I, yeah. And I think he's just, man, that guy's, he's so easy to root for. He's so easy to like get behind. like I was actually talking to him we were talking I don't know maybe last year and he was talking about what they do like they'll play most teams play games at the end of practice

or whatever in the loser's skate his mindset is like hey like no if you win you get to skate like why why do the guys that lose get to do the extra work and get better and that's that's Roddy to a T and he just like builds that mindset in the group and everyone rallies around it and he lives it every day

you know he's still i'm sure probably the first guy in the gym um slapping rates and weights around and um and just a genuine human being he wouldn't ask you to do anything that that he wouldn't do himself that's the classic case right it's well we can't we can't skip a skate because he's the coach is going the coach is in the gym the coach is eating right he's doing everything the right way what the hell are we supposed to do we can't do it because he's doing it leading by example yeah i i love that guy uh this is a this is a moldy story but i was in the building and i I think I've heard the story and for people that before their time. But 2005 world juniors, you guys have an amazing team.

You go off, you win it. And you come back and the first game is against the rebels. And there's you and Getslaff and there's Colin Fraser and Dionne Funuf on the rebels. And you guys have just one goal. You guys have just been pounding celebratory beers and having a great time and winning a championship. And then right off the start of the game, the two hitmen versus the two rebels, going toe to toe scrapping. Was that premeditated?

Walk me through that. So there's actually, I think this is the first time I've told this, actually. So there's more to it than that. So we were, when we were at the World Junior team, guys were on the bus. So we practiced somewhere else. So we were on the bus waiting to drive to practice somewhere else. So everyone had their helmets and gloves on.

And guys were on the, like coming on the bus and guys were being clowns and taking a swing out of each other's heads and that type of stuff. just being goofballs. So Dion came on the bus and was like, anybody takes a swing at me, like, you're going to get it. So, of course, like, I don't, I'm not good at listening to that stuff. So I took a swing.

So I actually think that's probably where it all started. And then we got back to Red Deer. Like, it was, we knew they were our biggest rival going into it. So I, we lined up. I asked, I asked Deanna if you wanted to go and he obliged. And we were the first one. We had no clue that Fraz and Getz were going to go right after.

And Fraz was literally at my house yesterday. So he's such a good dude. And they'd known each other for a long time. So me and Dion were in the box kind of chuckling. And then, you know, obviously like two seconds later, Getsi and Frazz are sitting right beside us. And I think Brent Sutter was just shaking his head on the other side of the ice. That's the greatest world junior team ever assembled.

Like Patrice Bergeron, Gatslap, Carter, Crosby, yourself, Perry, Funuff, Richards, Fraser, Seabrook, Coburn, Barker. Like, it's Abshay Weber. Like, that's nuts. Yeah, it was a fun group to be part of. I think, like, everyone going into the camp, the summer camping, Calgary, and it was like, I just want to be a part of this team because you knew it was going to be special

with the lockout. and you don't even know if we knew that Laco was going to happen, but they had won, they should have won gold the year before. They had the gaff with Flurry and shot it off someone's butt and ended up in the net. So everybody just wanted to be a part of that team because you knew like with Sid and that group

that we're going to have a really good chance of doing something special. So was Fraz living in your basement? What's he hanging? He's scouting now, man. He's scouting. So he was here. for, to watch some rocket games and check out Iggy's kid, I think. Yeah, he's getting lots of eyes over here.

In the playoffs. So he's scouting for the Blackhawks. They got a couple of picks in the first round this year. And so he's doing his due diligence. Have you seen Tej play? I went to one game this year and I saw him play. Yeah. Yeah.

So he's inherited that shot. You can imagine here, the flames, yeah, the flames have a couple first rounders. And I think his dad played here or something like that. I think so. Plains fans are very curious to see who they might be able to get out of that first round. Yeah, I'd be curious to see, like, if Iggy actually would even want him to be in Calgary. I think that's... Yeah, well, it's a good question.

It's hard to say either you want the kid to kind of be his own man and create his own path, but there would be something special. You also might think he's a megastain. You're like, damn it, I'm going to be working at this front office. I need this kid to score 50 for us, not somebody else. Right, yeah, exactly. Nice. May 25th, it's hockey fest, the website, 16, 6, 7.

16.org. Are you going to be playing or are you just kind of oversee it? I'll be there. Yeah. Well, I think we'll try to get a bunch of former guys, maybe some current guys to come out and get involved in play. So I was joking, with Fraz that we should just get a bunch of Power Ranger suits and show up as an adult team and start playing. So we'll see. Very nice. Well, you know what? Good, good on you, man. It's one thing to recognize where help is needed or you could make a difference, but it's nothing to go and do it. So good on you for that. Congrats on a hell of a career.

And thanks for the time today. We appreciate it. Yeah, thanks for having me, guys. I appreciate it. You've been, there you go. Thanks. Andrew Ladd, May 25th, 1616.org, the website Hockey Fest is going to be happening over at Max Bell. All kinds of information there. And yeah, like NHL boards, you get refs. That'll be a ton of fun.

Interesting looking at his career, because he has the cup run with Carolina and then wins two with Chicago. I believe it was, or at least goes deep. And outside of those three years, he has 65 playoff games. Jeez. And 17 came with Carolina, another 17 with the Blackhawks and then 19. And then missed for four. He missed for three or four years prior to that.

And then, you know, Islanders won game. I thought it would be more. It just felt like he was a guy. He was just synonymous with being in the playoffs. Yeah, you're right. You think about it, didn't you? Islanders. And there again, relatively early in.

his career. His last year in Chicago was their first cup, so he had won there. And then he was off to Atlanta, which turned into Winnipeg a year later. That's a whirlwind for all of a sudden the course of like 13 months here on three different teams. I just remember that whole kind of thing with him. He was going to go to

US college or was he? And then he came to Vancouver. That was a big deal. And then landed with the Calgary Hipman. I had played one game for the Vancouver Giants and then not sure how good the Giants are going to be. Oh, Getsloff's pretty good. had a pretty good team there. So yeah, that was a, that was a great rivalry then because you had

Funuf and Colin Fraser and some other guys and Ladden Getslaff and they hated each other. That was the whole thing. So now they're both on the same world junior team. And Sutter was coaching and of course Sutter won't. Yeah, I'm taking Getslaff. Because I thought Gets laugh, you know, he's kind of lazy. He kind of plays only as hard. Maybe

Brent isn't going to want that kind of guy. All fame. He's going to want that guy. He's going to want that kind of guy. Yeah, drop the gloves. You knew it was going to be something with Dion. when he started going into that story? Yeah. Yeah, that feels like Dian. A story.

Yeah. So Finoff did what? Yeah. To get that thing going. So Dian was telling people what to do, right? Or not to do. Or not to do. Don't be touching me or.

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Plea. Pleak. never even mind the inverse standings. There's lots to play for, according to Ryan Pike on Flames Nation. Give that a read. You got two guys sitting at 29 goals. Another one sitting at 19 who happens to be a defenseman. Keep an eye on that.

Now some cadre plus 140 for an anytime goal to get to 30. Kenzie Weiger plus 275 to get to 20. And Coleman, no odds on because we don't know that he's going to play. We'll wait for confirmation later or it's happened since we started the show. But there's your list. It's the top four is quite important. impressive, but you'd want to have a lot between Backland and the top four, at least the top. So Dallas has eight, 20 goal guys.

Yeah. Because Michael Back is just going to do Michael Backl. That's your 15 goal, 45 point season, tough minutes. But you want to have, yeah. Now, that said, Kuzmiko, lots of goals, just arrived late. Great positivity, Ryan. I love it. Lots to play for.

tonight. San Jose's only got one 20 goal guy. We want to. It's one more than I thought they had. Yeah. Inverse standings. Yeah, it matters. That line at the top there is fifth overall. Atlanta, excuse me, uh, Montreal is sitting in the five hole. Arizona, six, seven is Ottawa. They can't go anywhere. Seattle and Calgary, the only teams, we don't know where they're going to finish. They'll either flop or stay in that order, which is Seattle eight, Calgary nine. Seattle has the inverse tie break, which means means the flames have the actual tiebreaker of more regulation victories.

I think Stephen Ellis says it here. Our next tweet is what we know versus what we don't. These are all locked in. San Jose will head number one into the lottery. Chicago, two, Anaheim three, Columbus four, Montreal, five, Arizona, Ottawa, six, seven, eight, nine is what's to be determined. And that's Calgary and Seattle. The Cracken will have to get more points than the flames tonight as they play Minnesota.

or the flames will stay at nine heading into the lottery. Had to beat Arizona, didn't you? Oh, like our odds. And it's the sharks of the wild, the two opponents. Now that said, the wild, they're not trying to win. They'd rather not so they don't leapfrog another team. That's a dog's breakfast. How do you feel about it?

Because it was a mucky middle we talked about. You don't want to be mucky middle, 15, 14. They didn't want to be there. So eight, nine. Probably doesn't matter. like this draft class for eight nine there's other years you'd hate it there's just no consensus between two and ten from what i'm seeing on rankings well then it don't matter tonight then don't matter but of course it matters but yeah it's better than nine but it might not mean that much we'll see

i'd rather just get eight and not worry about the rest but you can't control what the cracking are doing they probably want eight as well because that and so all this and then conroyo just trade down to like 12. Again, Legos is seven or something. Okay. You think they're trading now? Vancouver, Nashville. That's what's going to happen. We learned that last night. There it is for you. Canucklehead's first real playoff series since Quinn Hughes was a virgin or something like that. It was a long time ago because they went in the bubble in Edmonton, but to have home fans in their rank for playoffs been ages. It's been like Cidines. guess so, right?

Yeah. Yeah. It was like year one of Benning. You inherited a playoff team and then. Demko back. He looked pretty good the other night. I don't know how to feel. They'd be good right from the start.

And everyone's been trying to doubt them. And yeah, of course, the Torrid pace that they were on didn't keep up because every fourth or fifth puck was going in for them. And that's come back to Earth. They finished the season where all teams do, which is their PDO around 100. But they're still a very good team.

And they also missed Demco there for that stretch of games where they were kind of 500-ish, if he's healthy, are they... They're better, for sure. He's better than the more wins, right? And then the other thing is they played Edmonton brilliantly. They're 4-0.

They sweep the season series. Is that the measuring stick in the Pacific? Kind of, I guess. I think we were all thinking they're right for an upset, but I don't know that Nashville's the team's going to do it. I don't either. We'll see. I guess we're going to do picks tomorrow.

Potentially. I don't want to exhaust it. Should. It makes sense. Rets going to take them both just to... So tired. and Vancouver at that down. Well, I love Tutsis, but the rocks is great.

Yeah. Yeah, that's a win-win. I can't pick between the, I see all the above. Yeah. Jeff Carter, you noted it. He called it a career last night, getting emotional, Misty on the bench. Not a lot of time of Columbus there.

Didn't seem to like Columbus. Not a fan? No. Yeah, I don't know if they liked him. Ohio. H. Ohio. H. Ohio. H. Ohio.

Muckeyes. I hate Ohio. I feel like Philly wasn't too fond of whatever. they were doing there for a while either. But found a home, one twice in LA, big part of those cups with Daryl, and thought it might be over, but he kind of was reborn in Pittsburgh.

There was a thought that he wouldn't allow to be traded. He'd rather just retire. And next thing, you know, I guess Sid's calling you, your phones are going to pick up, and you might change your mind. I meant to grab that photo. There's a photo that he had taken somewhere.

And he's got the Stanley Cup. And then just the string of championship rings. World Juniors, World Champions, Championship, the Spangler Cup, I think, is in there. Stanley, he's done a lot of winning. Way to show off. Bit of a show off. Olympics, World Cup. So he's gold at the U-18s in Russia, gold at the under 20s on that team that Ladd was on,

Calder Cup champion with the Phantoms, L.A. Kings twice a champion, gold medal in Sochi with Team Canada. And was there a World Cup? He said that, I think. Well, I'm not sure. I didn't say World Cup, but there was under 18s, U-20s, HL Championship, two NHLs, and an Olympics.

It's fucking good. It's all right. Yeah, probably made the playoffs too much to go to World Championships things. Teams are good. We move. What else do we know? Well, it was say goodbye to the Coyotes night,

officially extinct, at least this iteration of the Coyotes last night. they beat Edmonton. It was a rammed building, a lot of tears, an emotional night for hockey fans in the desert, which there are many of. Make no mistake, it's been shitty rinks and or shitty owners,

and most of the time in Arizona, both. To suggest that hockey won't work in Phoenix, we don't know. We've never seen it with a good owner in a good rink in the right part of town. What I was thinking about was, everyone has unique, like Carter won a bunch. He was never part of it.

something like this. There's not very many players that get to be part of this type of issue, moving franchise. Yeah, but how bad was ownership, really? I mean, how much could they really have dropped the ball? Sure, you didn't get public money in the vote from Tempe and sure, you got evicted from your home rank who didn't want a tenant because you weren't paying your bills. Sure, you didn't send your players up to the bubble with any per diem and money for foods. Sure, you have hotel bills outstanding around the league. But really, this is the one that got me. man delivered Shane Donne's retired jersey banner. What happened?

Well, it was at the old rink in Glendale, which isn't that old, in fact, the one they got evicted from because they'd rather sit empty than deal with that owner. They contacted the team to pick up the retired number from the rafters. The team did nothing and eventually it was thrown in a dumpster. Wow. Shane Donne, the greatest player in franchise history, the man who was hockey in the Valley. They didn't even go get the fucking banner. And so some guy finds it and returned it to Donne. Incredible. That's how bad that ownership group was. You were alerted to come get your

banner from this rink you've been evicted from and they couldn't even do that for the man that wore their jersey better than anyone else in the history of the franchise. Embarrassing. Stay classy. And by the way, Alex Marillo, a little too busy to attend last night's game. That's son of us. I mean, he's got that auction to get ready for. June 27, a lot of work on that land auction that the mayor says the overpasses on the wrong side. Good stuff. Good luck to you.

Just good to see you didn't get rewarded for that decade of mismanagement. Yeah, he's not to the $600, $700,000 million. Jeez. You like flowchartstein? Oh, he does. Because you just follow the arrows. It's really easy. Yeah.

Who does Vegas play? Okay. Well, start at the top. You got Vegas versus Anhy. Do you win? Do you go to overtime or do you lose? A win takes you to Edmond. Well, then you play the Oilers. Now, what if you go to overtime?

Then you need to see what happens with the L.A. Kings in Chicago. Well, okay, so what if L.A. loses? If it's a loss, you play the Oilers. That's right, Vegas will go there. Now, what if the Kings win? Then it's you got to go to. Vegas, go Dallas. Dallas.

Now, what if Vegas is now? of regulation. Okay, anyway, you get it. It's still a lot of sort of out and poor old Deaner. I got a lost. The fans come on. I'd need more arrows over that. It's not super simple, but yeah, it's either going to be

Edmonton or Dallas, Dean, right? It's, yeah. Here's tonight's slate. Here's what we're looking at. We noted the two games already. It was the two big ones that matter, Vegas and L.A. You win, the other guy doesn't.

You're probably. you're going to play the Oilers is the three seat come on Vegas. I want Vegas to play Evanton. And honestly there's sort of a joke going around is like hey it's a playoff preview with 15 teams you can cheer for and Vegas. Like no one likes these guys wrong. Vegas is the team Calgary needs to inherit

especially if they run into the Edmonton Oilers because A, anyone but the Oilers B, if they win the series you get a second round pick added into that whole deal for Hannifin and honestly like they're the heel. I love it. Kelly McCriman is like when Hulk Hogan went WCW and was NWO. Everyone loved Vegas when it was the expansion team with Derek Anglin and Nate Schmidt. And then all of a sudden, they turned.

I don't mind the bad guy here. Let's go. Calgary, we're adopting them, but they have to face Evanton. If they play. If they play Evanson, and then if they play Dallas, probably don't give a shit about it. And then two conditional picks playing each other.

Yeah, because you want Dallas to make a cup final. Vegas picks higher. That's a tough spot. I'd rather just see the play. Eastern Schedule. Is it a flow chart for that for what we want? We'll wait to see what happens tomorrow. Hopefully we don't need a flow chart.

It'll just be cheer against Edmonton. Let's hope for that. Yeah, Eastern Schedule. Frank tweeted it out. Just a quick recap here. Saturday, it starts with the Cains hosting the aisles. Then the Bruins hosting the Leafs Sunday morning battle of FLA. And then the Capitals are on Broadway in the afternoon to face

the top-seated President's trophy cursed New York Rangers. 1230 seems real early for a hockey game. That matters. That important. I think even a 3 o'clock or a 1 o'clock. It's got to be building, right? Madison Square Garden. Well, MSG, that's the afternoon one.

The morning game is. Oh, Florida, yeah. Yeah, like what the hell's going on? There's, I don't think. You got a flow rider concert going on and sunrise? What are we doing? Yeah. Seems early.

what it is, is that the NFL's not playing. We're just going to take all those. No, you're not. It's not all right that way. Yarmory Yager, boys. Jags? Still doing it. Yags.

Playing today for Cladno, which is in the Czech First Division, will become the oldest professional player to play in a professional league. He is 52 years and 63 days old. Gordy Howe was 52 years and 11 days old when he finished his professional career. Yager also just scored a goal. So certainly is the NHL, but I cannot imagine taking a stride,

a hockey stride with any intention. And you're four or five years younger than Yags? Yeah. Yeah. Like it would just Yeah, I mean, it's not the NHL. It's pro hockey, but it's 52. It's not 42.

No. Yeah. And I know, didn't they have one shift for the vipers for Gordy Howe back in the day so we could play in like five consecutive decades or something insane, seven decades, maybe. Not so stuff. Okay, we go to the Calvary Canucks,

hell of a job by the fellas here. Hulliver. And we got some video, remember fast food connoisseur, Riley Pollock? Riley, our boy Riley? He tweeted this last night. Look at the fellas. Quarter century, you said, Dean.

25 years. That's a long time. I've got to be honest. I'm happy there's that many fans. I wouldn't. That's an atmosphere. That's excellent. Good for them.

Well done. They also had a nice little sexy graphic put together. Love that. Yeah. Congrats, fellas. Congrats. Congrats to the Cucks. Yeah.

Well done. Pete Fairbanks. It's not an Alaskan. mascot. It's a reliever for the Tampa race in the major leagues. He had a tough night. Let's just look at the box score here. One inning pitched. Three hits, two earned runs, 28 pitches, two walks, no strikeouts.

Pete's doing his post game and asked about what didn't go right. Just a matter of command, location, selection, anything specific? No, I thought it generally sucked. I didn't think it was a specific suck. I thought it was like an all-encompassing type of suck. So, you know, we're going to try and rectify that.

But for right now, I'm going to be pretty pissed about it. Where do you kind of go from here? Is it looking at tape? Is it going through mechanics? Where do you kind of go from here? You tell me, I've tried that. If you got an answer, I'd love to hear. Just, you know, not going to let it beat me up for, you know,

I'll maybe give it until 10. It's 944 right now. We'll give it 16 minutes of salt, and then we'll, you know, get back on the bump and figure it out. I like that. That is great. Honest. Where do you go from here?

110% one shift in time. It's 9.44. I'm going to put for a little bit. I'm going to let it sulk and then we'll move on. Then we'll just move on. Pete Fairbanks. An all-encompassing suck. A specific suck.

Lindor. Good player. Look at this glove he's got. Chocolate. So it looks normal. Look closer. See through. Look at that.

I don't think I like that. You don't have to like it. Francisco Lendor does. So the top is like... It's like see through. You can see his hand. So if he's got any sticky stuff in there, I mean, he's not pitcher, but yeah.

Maybe that wasn't necessarily pinner report-worthy, but we'll move along. NBA's playing bracket certainly is. The hoopsters and the dimers are getting so jacked up. What did you see last night? Bad news for the heat is they lost the 76ers and Jimmy Butler. My head's schmucked his knee up. Bad news for the heats is they now have to face the

Bulls, winner of that will go play the Bostonian Celtics. Also the West's final matchup to determine will be King's Pellies. And you said Zion's hurt, is that right, right? Zion is out.

Put up 40. Twisted an egg. That's two big injuries in this playing tournament, Dean. I don't know if we can be, geez. It's a killer. Can't have it. Now, you know what would hurt even more than blowing your knee out?

Let's say you went and you did your research of where you could find Barnburner blonde, you went to the liquor store, completely bare. Oh, no. Look at this horror. Look at that. And look, the Pioneer IPA is a sensational beer, but the blondes right out.

It happens. Much like Fairbanks, I would take 14 minutes. Yeah. Sulk about it. Sulk, and then I'd have to figure something else out. Then you go to B.K. before it's rectified. Then you go see Mandy, who's got palis. We appreciate this establishment for stock and the block.

Get more. That's all you got to do. Reorder quick. If it's moving off the shelves, you got to get more. Maybe it's that big mark that we need to blame from origin. Maybe this is on him. He was been saying it would go like hotcakes. Maybe this is at the naked grape where they were pimping it and it's just flying off the shelves.

A naked grape and Okotocke's. Okotia. Is it naked or naughty? Noddy. Naked grape. That's a wine, isn't it? You're right, Ryan. Not a good one, I'm guessing.

You know what? It'll potentially give a jump to our spirits. We'll check in with our boy Tim Myers, Tim Dotnaki on Instagram. Let's go. Day 69. Nice. Going to Blackjack and beating 10 cents

for your Instagram follow up. There is 830,000 of you with us now. So an $83,000 bet coming right up. All righty, pressure mounting. Day 69. Dinner for two with a hair review. We have an $83,000 bet to go on.

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I don't know what kind of illegal cards you got in Viking soft. Still, you know. Yeah, it's probably balzy as hell. I think putting 80 grand down on a hand of black. Everything about it is massively

balzy. Let's not mince words on that. Happy. Happy for him. I've got something down written jumps. Hmm. Oh, dick. Oh,

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Dick. So what you have just listened to if you were watching is it's the same group of guys and they take their lawn riding lawnmowers and they try and soup them up a little bit and take the, it looks like they've taken the cutting apparatus off from under the, but this is the thing. You can get into lawnmower races and shit like that, but they've decided to go over jumps.

I'm guessing they landed some at some time, but not at all in that. Holy. And those are painful. They had air. I was like, that's actually quite impressive how hive they've. You've got some launched. Got a few RPM going there for sure to get up over. Pin it.

Pin it. When you got buddies in the food industry, life's just easier, right? Oh, yeah. So, like, you can be across the street like our pal here. And he already knows, like, oh, let me a number five. And he's cooking it up. Got the pan, traffic. Don't worry about it.

how he got in there? Oh, that's a sort of breeder or something? I don't know of this, but it's all it said, it's a self-contained food. Yeah, so he's just got his little propane deal with a walk. And then flips it over the traffic to the other side of the street. Guy catches it. Thanks for dinner.

Nice. Put it on my tab. See you later. There you go. You know you're a regular and you have a tab running. They still do that at places? Give the, uh, last, warm at cheers.

Last place I did that was. at the late emma lake i don't have a tab but i usually leave my credit card behind the bar that's the same right whoops forgot to pay i'll pick that up at noon tomorrow and you shupishly walk in with your tail between your legs that's still happening i was here at 2 a m i'm sorry i'm back yeah the night staff has a few of these all the time there's some jerks that don't remember to pay i'm sorry i added a few shots on that interesting uh this is called waterfail now we're unloading uh Hey, y'all got one more bottle of water.

Oh, no. Oh, no. No, please, geez. Oh, sweetie. That's heavy. Sweetie, that's a lot of Agua. Yeah, that's tough. That's tough.

Now, there's always special ingredients in soups and different meals. Let's, uh, well, um, well, and it's just that soup you can throw anything into, right? So everyone's got their own little twist on things. That's very happy. I'm just watching your and Jack's reaction. Athena's a soup guy.

Delicious. Oh, boy. Love a good soup. Soup day today, Rad, or what do you think? I'm not sure, but maybe. And we know Australians are built different. This is on the Sunshine Coast where my wife grew up and vacationed, and we will visit on occasion.

This is just... September. Some sort of an apartment on the Sunshine Coast, no big deal. No, he's above it. Oh, yeah, he is, yeah, he's in there. That's not really what you want in your bedroom, that's for sure. Hmm. Yeah, let's get the golf club out, Dean.

That's a... Is that an iron? No, that's a professional. That's right, that's a snake... Snake lever there, yeah. Snake wrangler. Where is it going? wherever it wants, I think, probably.

Just leave your... I hate it. There you go, I. Out the window, mate, there, yeah. Oh, my goodness, and you got that at the head of the bed. What do you mean? The head of the bed, what do you? Oh, good.

Yeah, nice. So anyway, Dean, the tourism board of the Sunshine Coast has invited us all to come to... Dude. Look at the size of that. Oh, my God. Put in your hat. That's a great... Oh, where's he going?

Where's he going? Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, jeez. Oh, no, no, no. Let it go. Oh, they're trying to take them home. It's very nice to behavior.

It's like letting the dog out for... We'll walk. There, mate. Yep. Back home. There, see. No problem. Baint. Just take it to the backyard.

It'll never get in the house again. No, no. She's back home now, yeah. Yeah, by the way, it's a little hot. Let's open the windows and get a draft. The windows open. Mother-in-law had a family of snakes in the rafters for a few years there. I think somehow they ended that problem.

No sweat. Keeps the mice out. Yeah, that's perfect. Now, Dean, I know we've got you off on the wrong foot on some of these reptiles, but what if you met a little cute baby crock? Oh, no, he's got a fishing hook in him, Dean. What are you? I'm going under and I feel this time.

There's no one to save me. Yeah, look, he's got his own little tank there. He's feeding him little bits of chicken. This is the guy from Buffalo? Yeah, is this Robin Leonard's old business partner? He's growing, Naddy. He's growing. He's warming up, though.

Look at a cuttleing. Yeah, he's getting bigger. Oh, now he's going for piggyback. Crokey backer. it. Jack's loving it. Yeah, look at this. Beautiful.

It's love. And look, they're playing dress up together. Beautiful. Oh. And look. He got his own little bed. It's loved him. I hope he bites that guy's face off.

Oh, he's getting him on the head. It's like bear. What's the difference? The scale here, fur there. Yeah, it's very much the same. Less fur to clean up. Yes. Yeah.

They're not more slime or whatever. I don't know what slime, but some gross trail that they leave from dragging their. Some limbs that they've spat up. It's nice. Do you think that thing goes outside to shit or? Did you train it? I don't know. So the other thing you can either raise them and make them pets or this your other option.

Delicious. What's the money? Pineapple crock. Looks good, Dean. I got to be honest. I try that. Don't. Brett?

Hard pass? Because the other cooking videos is that it's kind of like chicken but also fish a little. No need. No reptile. I'm not a reptile free zone. Yeah. So you do the kangaroo burgers before the carnivore. I don't know why.

There's no. If you ate more of them, there'd be less of them out there in the wild. I know that for sure. I live in a certain area of the world. You're going to move to Florida. You're going to deal with this shit. you're they going to get the pet to protect the house you're going to eat them if i moved to

florida i can tell you where i'm not living and that's the everglades yeah okay yeah pythons and gators by one of those airboats go wheeling around with the family trying to die that looks fun anyway that's your thursday edition of the pender report dvillage honde a huge selection of used vehicles they have all makes all models all budgets it's the dealership group which is where you get the power 90 units on site but access to more than 500 more within the dealership group is why village hans is truly your one-stop automotive destination in Calgary, located in the Northwest Auto Mall and online at village honda.com. Yeah.

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We'll look back at the big match from tonight. Right. Yeah, the meaningful game 82. Yeah. And lay out our playoff picks as we will have the full slate of series and start times and all that kind of good stuff. So we want Vegas Edmonton. That leaves. We can't control.

We can't control. Of course, we don't have anything to say. Wanted New York, New York didn't get it, but happy with Boston, Toronto. Very happy with Florida, Tampa. Yeah. Yeah. With that matchup. What else are we?

Winnipeg Colorado feels awesome. It's done. It's going to be good hockey. Nashville and Vancouver is done. So really we're, you know what? The other thing with the Nashville, Vancouver?

8 o'clock, 9 o'clock games. Yeah. Give a shit. Except the ones that are in the east. Oh, they go to Nashville and Nashville plays Carolina. Yeah. Yeah.

And yes, it will be, unfortunately, none of the three grumpy old men on Afterburner tonight instead. Cammy is back for her first and a long time. She's been busy with WHL postseason. For her full-time gig, gets to WHL,

but she's made time for tonight to join Mike. Go. Go. There you go. So load up your questions and jump in the stream. That'll be going on. If I'm guessing, just ahead of 10 o'clock with the 7 o'clock start at the dome tonight.

And you had thought maybe that should be a big farewell show. You know what I really was doing? I was testing the waters to see if there's any sort of sentimental pull that you or Rhett were feeling about the last after that. No. Did you get clarity? I got a lot of clarity. Yeah.

I didn't get clarity the two days prior when I texted you and asked you. But as soon as I brought up in the room, immediately. You should have been. Yeah. Well, it is the last afternoon. I am back in town. I'll do as minute. No, I can't do that again.

Because the thing about doing after burner is you have to kind of watch it in real time. Yeah, you've got dial in. So it wasn't so much the afterburner show. It was lead up to the afterburner show. Which sounds terrible. Hey, listen. Hey, listen. Flames, thanks. We just saw a city lose its team. We got the flames. They'll be back next season.

We're happy to have them. We don't take that for granted. They, uh, they've had a very entertaining season. If you delete the last month, it's been twists and turns and unexpected things and competitive play, beating good teams. teams, dumpster fire losses to horrible franchise. But I mean, generally speaking, wildly entertaining season. Exciting deadline, drafts coming up. I've been the focal point of the NHL at various points.

The trail. The Troy was the bill on the ball. Wait till he heads to a whole draft with Jacob Marksson on the block. All the time. Two firsts. It's just nonstop. I'm just like, gosh, my battery. I just charge it.

It's already down. I'm getting an alert. Just nonstop. You need a little corded phone. Even guys that you can tell they're not making trades. It's like they're just making calls to. Just bug and say they've been making calls. So that happens at that level too.

People just trying to look busy walking around the office with handfuls of paper. I'm very busy. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Oh, I'm just on the phone with the general manager. Sorry. Candy crush. Let's do the Betway bets of the day.

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And you use that to bend your favorite sports. This offer only available outside of Ontario. Go get it. Get that QR code. Tonight, come on, Weigs. Look at this. They're going to be trying. It's tougher, I think, when you're a D man,

but maybe if there's an empty net situation, they're going to want Weger to get 20. Anytime goal for Weiger, plus 275. Vegas, they want to win. Barbashev. He's got 19 goals. Oh, make a 20. Why not get 20?

Plus 240 for a Barbashev anytime goal for the Golden Knights for my bets. I'm also going to focus on an anytime goal. It's Tomash Hurtle, who's been, he's got four points in five games. He's only been back for that amount of time with Vegas, just hitting stride. and they've got the ducks, which is probably as good as it gets in terms of, you know, playing a team that isn't too keen on defending.

I mean, the flames do have the sharks tonight, but I'm on the hurdle. Anytime goal plus 200. I also like him over two and a half shots. That's plus money. We're going to dance on that. If you are curious, now as I'm cadre to hit 30 plus 140. And no Blake Coleman odds

because he hasn't been playing. I'm guessing. Yeah, I think they need to know that he's in. And I have not seen that, but we've also been doing a show for two hours. if you are curious because we've gone ahead and cursed him, Henry Zetterland, his number is plus 200. I don't think we cursed him.

I think we said he was a good player. He's leading them in goals. Just guys we mentioned, that's what happens. So if he scores, no matter what we do, it's just if their name comes up on the front. Yeah, it kind of feels that way. Yeah. You don't have to call him a lobotomy.

Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, that felt like a shot. It came out the wrong way. When he was playing with Zedorov, it was just not the greatest combination. of decision making and huge, huge, huge humans. I love you.

How did it come out the wrong way? Well, I wasn't even playing with Sadorov. It was a bit of a reach. Oh, okay. See, that's nice. When you can just take, you just roll it back a little bit. Take that back.

Then it's all over. Yeah, but he wouldn't have scored. I helped them. I had to put that into the universe so we could score against the flames. It's Betway, free bet up to $200 if your first bet loses. The QR code, that's what you need, though.

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Wolf will start tonight. I don't know that we mentioned that about the flames, but yeah. We expected it. We get it. And the question you guys asked a couple days ago, have we seen the last game of Jacob Marksum as a flame? Only time we'll tell. That is correct.

Time will tell. Connie's watching. These guys think, I already know what I'm doing here. These guys, I can't tell you, but I know. Signed up to an extension already. Let's do some DoorDash. We know how DoorDash works. DoorDash, what a season we've had.

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Five o'clock, Seattle is in Minnesota. Flames fans, you are indeed cheering for Seattle points. Two is better than one. Seattle's currently tied with the flames. The flames have the tie break. So that's one that if you're into the inverse standings, you'll be paying attention to. And if you want to figure out the final playoff matchups,

you've got to wait for Vegas and L.A. to play tonight. Those are later starts. 8 o'clock, Anaheim and Vegas, 830, Chicago against L.A. A decade ago, Rhett, this would be an absolute barn burner. You'd have Daryl's Kings against Quenville's Hawks. A decade later, less appetizing. What are you ordering tonight? I don't know.

I've used DoorDash so much over the last. I've almost hit all my must hits. You know what I mean? Yeah. In my area. He's going to do the Donair pizza double up again, isn't he? It might be pizza. How did that work again?

Can you walk us through that? I went to the new Donair shop. And while I was there, after I'd ordered, I said, boy, pizza sounds good. And so as I was waiting for the Donair, I went on DoorDash and ordered a pizza. But the problem was is he. But where you're located is. Yeah. He didn't tell them to take it to his house, which is probably,

where you want it taken. So they delivered the pizza to the Donair place. Which they should have. That's what he told them. Because that's where you place. That's where you said, yeah, bring it here,

please. That is the ultimate of going grocery shopping when you're hungry. Oh, you can't do it. You've already, you already are getting food. You're in the establishment, but you're so hungry waiting.

How impatient can we be? That's what it is. It really is. And how convenient is DoorDash? Red is watching a don't air getting made in front of them, probably behind some layer. of glass just salivating his mouth. I can't wait. I got ordered pizza right now. Pizza would be so good. Yeah, it'll be a DoorDash for

us too, I think tonight. Just feels like it. Got pizza be good. I think I'm going for pizza tonight. Yes. Are you? I got a pal from out of town. So we've got a few people getting together. We're going to a pizza place. We're known for very good pizza. Excited. Pizza and wine. Have a good time. Dash that for the win with DoorDash. Jack, what are you doing? tonight. I'll be watching this exciting game.

Yeah. And then working, yeah. He sounds very exciting. You did some work in here. Yeah, you like that setup better? That's not bad. It's trying to keep you awake a little more. We didn't.

Yesterday. It was slouching and passing out on the couch. Closed eyelids shut with. And I didn't brew coffee. That was my fault. Why was I sleepy yesterday? Because we did the game the night before. No.

Yeah, we had a short night, but did I eat in the morning? I think I ate. Because it was a late start. We didn't get out of Grey Eagle until about midnight. Yeah. And you had to take your kid. Yeah, but I went and grabbed a sandwich. Right for the show.

Normally don't, yeah, right before the show. And I'd had my coffee. Way earlier. Way earlier. So I was out of a lot. That's, that's what it's a crisco with gravy sandwich? It knocked you out.

It was the bacon, avocado. Yeah. Yeah. It was. Remember at the old place when you would stop by the patina or whatever and get those croissants filled with meat. I mean,

you may as well have just come in and punched us right in the face. Knocked us out. Yeah, it was, uh, chrysons. Because a croissant, very, I mean, it's very fluffy,

light, flaky. It's flaky, buttery, very light. This thing would weigh two, three pounds. Now that you've mentioned it. It's and Jesus.

That's the move today. It might, right, you can dash that for the win. Yeah. You wouldn't need your, whatever, melatonin or NyQuil. That is the recipe for me. If it's nap time, it's like usually just a big meal and it's early afternoon.

It's like, you know, I don't need a lot, but like a 10 minutes app, easy. Let's go. And I actually thought about yesterday when Noodles was talking. I'm like, if I just, I'll be once this, noodles can carry this interview. It'll be great. I'll be 15 minutes. I'll be back. It'll be.

Oh, could you see yourself on the screen? I caught myself. Because I was, I was really kind of amazed at just. how willing you were to just sit there with your eyes closed. Knowing you, I was like when you're driving or you're tired. Whoa. I would not have my eyes shut right now.

But it feels so good. Yeah, good stuff. I think we'll have drags tomorrow as well. Good. We'll have the playoff matchups finalized. That'll be exciting. And today, of course, is, I don't know, I was going to say the big day,

but the Salt Lake City stuff will go down this afternoon. The board of governor's meeting. will be held and it sounds like if that does go well, then Ryan Smith, the new owner of the team. Not the guy with the mullet. No, he's flying right into Arizona to meet the players and meet the staff and shake hands. If he wasn't a cheap bastard, he'd fly them into.

I don't think that's happening this weekend. But he wants to be there. Unlike the present owner who didn't go to the last game last night. Right. Yeah. This guy's going to fly in and introduce. He was busy throwing banners. Now, no, is that self-preservation?

because if they get that guy gets his face showing well you know what though he's selling oh i'll be the guy to bring the expansion team back so self-preservation that's where his efforts are that's where he should be showing up he was like oj out finding the killer he's out looking for the killer getting the land and the building he's getting construction timelines set up for the new rig that's i'm sure what he was doing i'm sure he's going to get that done because god if there's anyone that could curry favor and has a bunch of goodwill in that town that people love it's him yeah well if i pulled in a quarter bill that's what i'd be doing with my time. You know what's beautiful about it?

He gets this huge payday. They're going to whack him for 1.2 in an expansion fee. He's not going to be able to. Yeah, he'll have none. Yeah, he'll spend billions on this new rail. Oh, you can't afford the expansion anymore? That's a shame. I don't think they're going to get done anyway.

By the way, you noted the sleeping thing. Did you ever see the famous Mike Francesa clip where he falls asleep on it? Yes. It is unbelievable. Yeah. Because he realizes he's done it. And he's absolutely spooked. He's working the afternoon.

during taking calls. He's doing phones. Yeah. And they go, hey, so what about do you think that, you know, because Gina, he's had a little high up my list.

And he does one of these and then immediately looks over at his producer. He's like, which again, maybe you had one of those croissants for lunch. The heavy ones, yeah. Can't do it.

A little two pound croissant. Yeah, can't do it. Can't do it. Well, Jack, how do you think? we did today. We had an interview in studio. You guys luck. You're welcome. I threw that together for you. Yeah. Good job, Brett. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He certainly did eventually get the right information to the right people. I feel like I've been yelled at by both sides. And traditionally, if both sides are upset. Yeah, you're probably right. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Now, that's said, if we hadn't said anything, just Andrew Ladpops on the show. What is, it's terrific. No, I think you would have gone to a Google meeting with our sales game. It's been really awkward. Yeah, hey, I'm here to talk to Rhett.

Okay, so our monthly packages, what are you looking at here? Yeah, if it weren't true, it'd be solid or whatever. It's very well-oiled. I'm not sure what it is. That'll do it. See you tomorrow, buddies.