Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - GOALTENDING QUESTIONS 🇨🇦 Ft. TSN's Noodles | FN Barn Burner - February 11th, 2026
Episode Date: February 11, 2026FULL EPISODE | FN Barn Burner: Boomer, Pinder & WarrenerTIMESTAMPS ⏰1:00 Intro Banter9:00 Pinder Idiot===11:00 Noodles Joins12:00 Old Hockey Stories21:00 Chris Pronger25:00 CAN/USA Hockey34:00 C...anada Goalies46:00 Noodles Out===48:00 More On Goalie Debate 57:00 CAN Lines01:11:00 Pinder Report01:32:00 Bet36501:35:00 SuperchatsSubscribe to BarnBurner on Youtube🚨➡️ / @FNBarnBurner 📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiBARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/flamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTShttps://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9SHOUTOUT TO OUR SPONSORS!!👍🏼 Powered by @bet365. Whatever the moment, it’s Never Ordinary at bet365. Download the App today and use promo code:NATION. http://www.bet365.ca/ 👍🏼 McLEOD LAW https://www.mcleod-law.com/👍🏼 VILLAGE HONDA https://www.villagehonda.com/👍🏼 OUTDOOR DENTAL https://www.outdoor.dental/👍🏼 Crystal Waters Plumbing Company https://crystalclearcalgary.com/👍🏼 BON TON MEATS: https://www.bontonmeatmarket.com/index.html👍🏼 The Hearing Loss Clinic: https://hearingloss.ca/👍🏼 Vena Nova https://venanova.com/👍🏼Templ: https://drinktempl.com/👍🏼Canadian Rocky Mountain Resorts: https://crmr.com/Reach out to sales@thenationnetwork.com to connect with our Sales Team and discuss opportunities to partner with us!Producer: Jack Haverstock#NHLPlayoffs #Hockey #HockeyTalk #Playoffs #StanleyCup #EdmontonOilers #StanleyCupFinal #NHL #CalgaryFlames #NFL #NFLFootball #edmonton #calgary Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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You're like, these guys don't know what the hell they're talking about.
I'm going to get in there.
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Rett's phone is dead.
What?
Odd.
I charge it every night.
I'm a very strict.
This is, you've got my routine.
Strict charging.
Yeah, sort of charge your protocols.
Did you have something distracting you last night around bedtime?
I find it odd that people run around the house the next day.
Oh, my phone's still.
Well, why don't you charge it overnight?
Makes sense, right?
Then the phone.
Remember, Jayboy, that was kind of his thing.
We'd be at work in the morning, like 6 a.m.
He's like, oh, I need a cord.
Does anybody, I didn't you, don't you charge your phone overnight?
It's like, well, no, sometimes.
Huh?
It's a good time to do it because you're not using it.
Yeah, generally you're not on a day boy coming by last month.
It's good to see Jayboy.
God, it was good to see him.
Oh, yeah.
felt good, like an old swole.
So no, I wasn't distracted by anyone or anything last time.
Sometimes like I better plug my, oh, well, babe, I was just going to plug my.
All right.
Well, I guess not.
We go.
I got to spend five till 9.30, 10, five hours at the, uh, Shane Holmes, YMCA last night.
That was good.
And back out of this morning.
Never stops, Ryan.
I'm a giver.
Which one is that?
Is that the, the Seton?
Is that, no, no.
That's Brookfield.
Shane home is way up in the north.
I don't even know if it's northeast or northwest, because you can't.
to come around the top of the city.
It's far, right beside Bear's Paw.
Yeah, that's Northwest.
That's like the end of the Crowshald, right?
Yeah.
Cold.
Christine, you go up there.
More else, too, Dean.
Bring an extra jacket.
Bring a little.
Everyone said the same thing.
Bring an extra, a sweater.
Mm-hmm.
Or one of those heated vests.
Yeah.
The battery powered heated.
What?
What's wrong with that?
Mm, a little soft.
good technology you use a computer nowadays
or do you use a fucking typewriter
you know what I gonna do
now you got me swear see I was gonna just to
cheer everybody up look at this
man deep oh baby finally tune in live and way too long
hello flames age hello man deep
deeper deeper's been around forever
well yeah he's the day one of here he's
I mean he goes back he's one of the old he doesn't have
idiotic comment I don't read the comments very often
he's pretty rash yeah yeah you know he did offer to
take Rhett to his mom's for dinner.
It wasn't me. It was us.
It was kind of a you thing.
Ret entirely shut him down.
How can you spin this BS that it was a me thing?
I'm the one that I like that.
We can ask deeper.
He did not say, do you,
Rhett want to come over?
He said,
you guys want to come over?
You want to come over and try my mom?
It's just like these idiots,
they say, oh, you left.
We were starting a podcast.
There was nothing starting.
Just behind the scenes,
you know, behind the curtain.
You had started nothing.
That's true.
That's part of the fact.
Oh, yeah.
You had hard plans.
You had a, you had a microphone and a computer.
Did it start?
Did it start?
Only because we partnered up with someone that that negotiated, did,
negotiation didn't start until a month after it had gone.
Right.
I like the tone today.
Everyone's a little chippy.
It's a little chippy.
I'm not going to take his shit today.
He's trying to, he's trying to back people in the corners because he didn't charge his phone
and he's up too early.
like, geez, I'm hungry.
I'm putting up your shit.
Eat some food.
I do eat.
Sometimes.
On the Mondays.
Today is.
We're heading.
Have you eaten?
No.
Okay.
That's all I'm saying.
I don't eat breakfast.
It's like, geez, when you're getting up at five and you don't want to get
a guy.
I was making an observation.
It was very early.
And it's, if the later you get up, the less eaten breakfast matters.
Yeah.
But when you're up early.
Then we used to get up and be downtown by
5.30. Oh, God. What were we thinking? Yeah. Yeah, we're idiots. You know what? And I blame you two ass hats for that as well. That's all your fault. I was not interested in doing it. You somehow. You were there before I got there. You drugged me. You're drugged. You were drugged. Hooked on. Yeah. Phonics. I think it was a self-induced stipper you put yourself in, though. Hooked on fame and fortune.
So much.
So much of it.
Yeah.
Are you that voice from AM radio?
Why, yes, I am.
So is this where the magic happens?
It's just a dump in the Northeast.
Oh, remember that studio?
Some air conditioner belching up.
There was three years off our lives for sure.
Just poison.
Yeah, gross.
Oh.
Can you give us an ew?
I feel like it's appropriate.
Ew, looking up at these vents that had mold dripping out.
Just black soot around the vent.
Do we need a chimney sweet pair?
Is that a thing anymore?
Yeah, it's probably not a good thing.
You know who else was a fan from back in the day
who had text a show in that?
Jackie Boy.
Jack, you, I think that's what he was told you.
I don't know that he actually did that.
He's just pumping your tires.
On the radio or on the streams?
On the radio?
On the road again.
On the text line.
Accurate or inaccurate, Jack?
That's RJ.
Inaccurate.
Thank you.
I think I did.
You absolutely did because I recognize the name.
Jackie there?
When you applied for,
you were like,
hey,
I'd,
I'd like some of that fame and fortune.
Those guys.
Similarly,
I was going for you.
I fell prey to.
27 year old depressed bachelor.
I'm funny.
I'm yelling Jackie before the show.
Were you yelling at him?
Well,
what was it?
I was trying.
He needs leadership and guidance right now,
this poor young lad.
It's true.
I don't know why anyone would give that other than you.
No one had a better.
mid-20s than
Red Warner.
I had a good mid-20s.
What did you say the only thing
I should be worried about is?
I'm not sure.
Come on, Rets.
They're all back on us.
You can all get taken care of down at the...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Get you straightened right up.
We're going to talk to noodles
coming up in a couple minutes.
Good Lord.
But first,
we're going to go through...
While we're taking shots at everybody,
you know,
Pender's up. There's a thing that's called loud wrong.
Yeah, I think I've got the market cornered on that shit. You're going to be honest.
Pinder is a loud wrong guy. If you just, if you barrel through with enough volume and confidence in your takes or your thoughts.
Some people either won't have the energy to bother to debate or they just, oh, well, it seemed really confident.
He must be really confident. I came up yesterday.
And again, I was not nearly as confident.
I was confused.
You were confused.
But again, because there's the delivery.
Finland, North, they're okay.
NSF, like, that's what used to get on a little fund when your checks.
A lot.
I had that, yeah.
So it's Norway, Sweden, Finland.
That's how you remember the order of them?
And then tucked underneath is Denmark.
But everyone thinks it's the NSF, which is the Scandinavian countries.
That's incorrect.
It's just that I might have the ones that actually were Scandinavian.
countries. This kind of came in yesterday.
Classic Pinder
moment of being confidently wrong.
Loud wrong.
Scandinavia is Denmark. Norway, Sweden,
Finland is not part of Scandinavia.
The term to use when referring
to those four countries together
is the Nordic countries.
Which I did point out. I just had my
Yeah, I just said Norway for
Finland. So he's still trying to be right.
No, no, it was a mistake.
It's like Walker. It's like Walker
with his betting. It's like, well, I was the right.
It was the right call.
But it lost.
Yeah, but I mean, it was the right.
The sharp money was right.
It was the right play.
It was the right bet.
The game just had it wrong.
No, I had it.
No, it was I had it.
Oh, but it didn't.
It's way up there.
I thought Finland was closer to.
The fact checking.
We can't have misinformation out there.
That's true.
Or Mel.
Hold us accountable, you turts.
Never been a fan.
And then I had this one come through on Twitter.
Hey, Dean, I'm not sure enough attention.
was paid to this comparison that was made on the show.
But this is a shovel, if I've ever seen one, as you were,
and you know, it happens sometimes.
You get, you get rolling and you're kind of,
you're enthusiastic and this and that,
or Terry Lekanen, you were really excited about a turk,
you know, this guy's great.
He's, you know, these are star player, you know, this stuff.
Good in front of the net.
And we had talked about, you know, he's like Dave Andrewsuck.
You made kind of like, he's like Dave Anderchuk.
Yeah. And this fellow said,
it's a shovel if I've ever seen one.
So he went to the work.
Shovel.
Let's see.
Do we have the Arturi Lecannon?
He kind of went through.
A heat map for him or what do we got?
See where his goals are coming from?
Arturi Lecannon has scored 24 goals on power plays in his career.
Okay.
So it's not the con.
It's more than me.
You know, it's not bad.
It's not 240.
Do we have the Dave Andruchuk?
Because that was the comp that you had kind of brought up.
274.
No, no.
There's a two and a four.
Now, listen, Ovi and Andrewchuk don't play.
similarly at all, but they both did get a lot of goals
in power. There's a two and the four. Again,
he's still right. No, I, I'm a big
He's a big leon of the heart area.
He's a dirty go to the heart area player. Got it.
Yeah. He does, there's not a lot of room on that
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as we are, how many Dave
Andrewchuk talks to this?
How he tips and rebounds to Jamie
McLennon give up, look at that.
Moon roof. That's bigger than a sun.
I try to figure out like the best angle here.
Is that it?
Or what, like, like, like,
you're all sure in it.
Just as late.
Should I go this way or
is that better?
Ooh.
Ask Jack, is this the better, right?
Leave it right there.
Leave it right. That looks fun.
Beautiful.
Jack likes this? All right.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, I don't know.
where you joined us, but the boys are explaining how
I've got a special gift. If there was an Olympics for
loud wrong, I might be representing Canada and a strong
threat for the gold medal. I did, I did hear, were you
comparing Lackinen to Dave Andrew? Well, so that was even the second error.
And the first one is I was very cockily pointing out that it is not
Norway, Sweden, Finland, the Scandinavian countries, but then went
and listed three countries that were also inaccurate. I got two of the three
correct. So,
Well, maybe that geography wasn't your strength in school.
It kind of was. That's what's embarrassing.
That's the thing, yeah.
And I've been to two or three of those countries.
But the Lekinen comp was that he goes to the net.
It wasn't that he was a powerful beast.
Fair enough.
Back me up on that or don't.
Put it this way.
I think Lekinen is a really good player and very underrated.
And he plays with balls.
Like, he's not a big guy, but he plays big going to the net.
And Dave Anderichick is second all time in NHH.
help and all our play goals.
Dave Andrew Chuck was a building.
He literally was a building.
He would just sit there and people would bank it off of him or he had great hands around the net.
Lekin in is a speedster.
He gets underneath your skin.
He's got good hands, but he can score from distance because he can shoot in stride.
Andrew Chuck, literally, you go out and put him in front of the net and that's what he did.
Tim Kerr and Dave Anderichuk were the exact same mold.
They were just buildings with a right shot stick that they attached to it.
And they scored 500 plus goals.
That's what they did.
I was going to do that anymore because I was going to bring up Tim Kerr.
And then, of course, you had Ryan Smith was really good at it.
You had, uh, DeNus, really.
The guy in Detroit.
Uh, the, the mule for Johan friends.
Oh, uh, Johan friends.
Don't bring up that guy.
Yeah, don't bring that guy up suspended.
intention impending.
Thomas Homestrum was good at it.
I was going to say Holmstrom, the other.
Yeah, I mean, different players and different eras.
You know, now we have to be able to get there.
I'm jumping on you.
Is Pavelski.
Remember Pavelski was just.
But if you look at Joe Pavelski, arguably the greatest tipper in the history of the game.
And he worked with a skills coach named Ron Johnson, I believe his name, was out of Vancouver.
I met him at a goalie.
seminar. And what was happening is, you know, the goalies were getting ahead of the players because
they were studying the players and they were having seminars in the summer, all that type of stuff.
What happened recently, I don't call it maybe the last five to seven years, the players are
working with skills coaches and the skills coaches are studying what the goalies are doing.
And now they've gotten ahead. The top players are getting ahead of the goaltenders because
guys like Ron Johnson used to talk about quadrants of the net.
You get the puck.
You're just shooting it towards a quadrant.
You're not trying to pick a corner.
It's like upper right quadrant.
And that type of stuff.
It was really interesting to hear him talk about it.
So, you know, Joe Pavelsky, I think, and having played against Tim Kerr, having played against Androchuk, all of these guys, he might be the greatest tipper that I've seen in modern day.
I'm sure there's others, but he was one of the best things.
Who?
Dino.
Dicero Cicorelli.
And Dino had some issues off the ice, I remember.
And, you know, I don't even know.
He had some issues on the ice as well.
I believe there was some stick swinging and some.
Couldn't cross the border there for a short period of time.
Yeah, Dino had a, I think he took the garbage out to the corner or something.
And, you know, I don't know what happened.
It was not good.
I think there was like an indecent exposure type of thing.
But at the end of the day, he was a hell of a player.
And he was a guy who could get underneath your skin.
I don't think to answer Dean's question,
I don't think you can play that way because the sticks break.
Like the tipping or the chopping?
The tipping or the wall, the chopping too.
But I don't think you can make a career out of standing in front of the net
and just tipping pucks because I think the sticks break when you do it.
It's fair, but I'll say there's guys that are good around the net.
I'll give you an example.
I watch Brady could chuck every night.
Brady's really good in that 10-foot radius because he's a moose.
and, you know, Miko Ranton.
Guys who are 6-4-230,
defensemen, you, that I feel like,
the defensemen nowadays have been rendered,
like they've taken away a lot of the tools, Red.
You can't slash on the feet.
You can't slash on the hands.
You can't cross-check in the back.
Ray Ferraro always says this,
and the reason why I want to bring it up,
because it's not my saying.
But Ray used to, you know, stand in front of the net,
and he'd get cross-checked.
five times. And the
ref would be yelling, okay,
that's enough. You imagine
a guy chopping wood or cross-checking
five times before
you get the refs attention.
Like that's what it used to be like,
Darien Hatcher, Richard
Matvichuk. Your boy, Prongs.
Chris Pronger. They literally
chopped wood for a living.
Prongs could make a tape-to-ta-ta-ta-past. The other guys
couldn't. But, you know, the difference is
the game has changed for a defender. So what
mean is if you're big and strong
and you're a moose that can get to the
front of the net and take a little bit of a beating,
you can have success.
There's a guy, Zach Eman.
You know, go to the net. I mean, it's one of those guys
goes to the net, yeah.
Yeah. So, I mean, it's a different game, though.
So I'm going to defend you, Pender,
because it's a different game, but I know what you mean.
You've got to be able to go to the net.
It's just the beating that you take is different
because those guys back then had to wear.
Craig Simpson talks about how he,
We had to wear like basically a mattress taped to his back.
He used to get cross-checked so many times.
So, you know, think about it.
It's, uh, the game has changed, but certainly that skill set around the net.
It's, it's, if you've got it, you're going to get goals.
I was at my kids hockey last night and one guy had his sleeves pulled up like this.
And I couldn't, I was salivating going, oh, man, you would be getting it so bad.
Yeah.
Chris, Chris Pronger would have chopped his.
arm right off.
So you've given me a target. It would have laid on the ice. I've told you that story.
A million times, I'll tell it again. I remember we were playing Tampa. He came to the bench
because Selivanov from Tampa, cross-check prongs, and it was on the power play. He was
standing in front of the net on the power play, and Prongs was killing a penalty. And the
puck came shot from the point, and at the last second, Salavanov cross-checked prongs to box
out and prongs got hit by the puck.
He came to the bench and he said, I'm going to kill that Russian next time I'm on the ice.
He went out there and I watched him break his arm, flat out with a slash in that one area,
exactly what you said, Rhett, that little area between the glove and the elbow pad was
exposed.
He turned and chopped him.
That guy, not only did his arm break, but like his legs gave out because I guarantee
the pain went right through his body.
And he dropped like he was dead in front of the net.
How many games did Prongs get?
There was no penalty involved.
He broke his arm and there was no penalty nor suspension.
You remember, I remember Prongs telling me, I remember that because I think Phil Esposito was the GM in Tampa.
And I believe Salavanov was like his son-in-law.
Like I think he married, like there were some.
And it was, I'll never forget it.
like prongs like that was a vicious little chop there and he said take that with you if you're
going to cross-check me and it didn't go well for salivano put it down the thing with prongs
it's i don't know if he's just verbalized that but it's like if if i take a penalty every shift
they're not going to call all of them is like so he would get a percentage of the yes of the
penalties they took a penalty every shift and while they were taking a penalty they would be
yelling at the ref because somehow the guy was causing them to take the penalty.
Right.
Like it was, those two had it down.
I mean, they were, there's a reason why they're in the Hall of Fame.
They're arguably some of the greatest defensemen who ever played.
You know, you think about how fortunate I was to, you know, look up and see Pronger and
in McKinnis.
That's like Pronger and Needamire type of thing.
That's how good they were.
But, you know, they were vicious back then.
In a game, the game's different.
in a game where in a time where you could be vicious.
Single ref system even.
Yeah.
Catch him looking the other way.
Yeah.
I'll tell you, Pronger was one of those guys from the moment he got there
because he was so big and so strong.
Supreme confidence from day one.
I am the best one in the building.
Prove me wrong.
I'll be loud wrong maybe.
But just the way he carried himself, the way he talked in the media,
the whole thing from start to finish, you could not rattle.
Chris Prager in any way.
Yeah.
He was,
you know,
it was a treat to watch
because,
you know,
as talented as he was,
he backed it up with work ethic.
Because that's the thing,
like,
there were guys,
I mean,
Brett Hull was amazingly talented.
And Hully just knew how to play.
Holly was one of the smartest players
I've ever played with,
like cerebral.
Like he'd sit and do New York Times
crosswords every morning
just for fun and finish
them. Like, that's how, you know, smart he was.
And Holly knew where to go on the ice and he had the talent to back it up.
Prongs had that, but Prongs had another gene that was mean.
Like, he had that ferocious, like, you know, he played for keeps, put it that way.
But at the same, but calculated, right?
Not like, oh, snap show and loses it.
Like, he was just, he was like cerebral.
Dark arts.
Vicious.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's, uh, he's, uh, he's.
He was special.
Like, and, you know, I've been fortunate enough to be friends with him for many years.
And, you know, anything he does, he does in a different way.
He's always been a calculated thinker and thinks outside the box.
So it's interesting.
We have some great conversations because if I look at something one way and he sees it differently,
like it's interesting to see the way, you know, his mind works.
So it's pretty cool.
Like he's, you know, arguably like I very biased.
And obviously I know he played in the era of.
of Nick Lydstrom, but I, you know, I'm, I thought,
Prongs is one of the greatest defensemen who ever played.
Because he had Lidstrom type of qualities, but he had a meanness.
And, you know, I think he was suspended nine times in his career and probably had another
nine, nine that he wasn't called for.
Broken arm.
Yeah, like that type of stuff.
But it was, you know, he's a special player.
And, you know, around this time you start to think of guys like that.
Olympics because, you know, I remember him calling me, I guess it would be 20,
I went to 2002, right?
Is that the Salt Lake?
They had just won.
And, you know, for some reason, he felt like he could call me, which was cool.
It was really neat to, again, not experience it with him, but be a teammate or a friend
of his when, you know, he was going through that process.
Like he, what did they do in 98?
I can't remember.
Was that?
Magano.
Yeah.
Lost of the checks,
Hasick and the shootout.
That's right.
Thank you, Mark Crawford.
We needed to see Ray Bork out there and not Wayne Gretke.
I remember Al coming back and, you know,
Al had said, you know,
he wish he took a slap shot at,
at Hasick's head because he was so good.
Like, Hasick was ridiculous.
But I remember Prongs calling me after the O2 and, you know,
it's pretty special.
He gave me one of his game-worn jerseys and signed it for me.
I have it in storage.
It's, you know, when you think of things that you picked up along the way, that's one of my coolest keepsake.
I've signed Kobe jersey.
I've got a pronger Olympic jersey.
I've got a stick from Mark Messier's last game because he gave all of his teammates a game used stick.
He used a different stick every shift, which was pretty cool.
So he gave us all a stick.
So I've been able to, you know, along the way, pick up some pretty cool stuff.
But prongs his jersey's right up there with, you know, some of the best keepsakes I have.
Can I add some fake drama to our conversation?
Sure, what do you got?
I got two things for fake drama because we can pretend they're a big deal.
The Canadian women's team got snobbled again last night.
Yeah.
The World Junior team hasn't won.
We won four nations, but she's tight.
Yep.
Is the Canadian model starting to wane a little bit in the American approach taking over here?
They do things a little bit differently.
I like how they do it down in the States.
Is it that dramatically?
I am trying to make something probably out of nothing, but
I don't think you are.
The depth of Americans have compared to the Canadians is significant.
I will go a step further, Red.
Am I concerned that the U.S. beats Canada if they play in the finals?
Yes.
Because when I look at it on paper,
clearly the Canadians have the three best players,
in my opinion, which is McDavid, McKinnon, and McCart.
But after that, you know, I look at it.
look at the goal-tending, obviously
we know where people are at with
that. On paper, you could argue
most countries have maybe
a little bit more depth or a little bit more
comfort level there.
Although I like Logan Thompson, I like
Darcy Kemper, and I think Jordan
Pinnington has shown that he can play in big
game, so we'll see what happens.
But the defensive core for Canada,
outside of Macar, I think, is
really good. But
you look at, on paper,
the U.S.,
when you're looking at, you know, Quinn Hughes into Werensky, into Jake Sanderson,
into McAvoy, into Faber, like, like there's a six-pack that scares the hell out of you
because they can move and they're all talented and they all compete hard.
You know, I love Barako.
I love Dowdy, but I mean, they're...
Well, it's thinner.
Just as a side note, that son of a bitch, Sanderson could be playing for the Canadians as
Damn, dad.
Call us dad again.
What the hells?
Listen, I will never, like, I don't understand the whole under, well, I do, but I don't, put it that way.
My understanding is that they chose the U.S. program, but there was some bumps in the road along the way through minor hockey or through other things.
So my point being is, you're right.
Sandy could be playing for Team Canada, but I believe that, you know, it comes back to the junior system, comes back to things there.
I think the U.S., I'll come back to your, whether fake outrage or whatever,
the U.S. has caught Canada on a lot of different things.
Their program doesn't worry about, you know, and believe me,
I have to be sensitive in nature here.
Canada has made their bed on some things here.
Let's just, I'm just going to leave it on that, okay?
But I think what's happened is you're still,
they're still chasing that and they're still like,
that's still hanging over.
the program, instead of just developing great players and worrying about all of that,
there's a lot of hoops that they are going through now because of the mistakes they've made
in the past. And where these other programs, and you could argue, all the other programs have
really caught up, Sweden, Finland, Czech, Slovakia, you know, a lot of Germany. Like, some of
these programs have really progressed and you look at it. Like, I look at that German team.
There's not just one player on there. There's four.
or five that are really good players,
the Czech, Slovak's.
So if Canada
has stayed the same, everyone else has come
up. And that's, that's
where I kind of feel like. Is Canada staying the same
and it's not so, well, it's all
the above because hockey Canada wants
to be involved in everything. So they
then they have to be responsible for everything
that happens. And I'm not talking about the side
shows. I'm talking about developing
players, how they,
how they, the Americans
bring it up to everyone. The year,
Why can't we just play year of birth?
09s play 0-9s.
10s play 10s.
2011s.
20-11s.
2015s play 20-15s.
Why are we combining that?
Why?
And I'm serious.
This is a self-serving somewhat.
I ran into Colin Forbes outside the rink the other day.
I ran into Robin Rigger outside the rink the other day.
And I've run into various guys that have played high-level hockey outside rinks.
Yeah.
Not allowed to help.
Really?
Not allowed to coach.
Not allowed.
Not allowed to coach.
Period, stop, exclamation.
Not allowed.
Why?
Parent.
Well, wouldn't you want a parent who has pedigree there?
No, you don't.
That's the point I'm making.
It's an idiotic thing, and that doesn't make everyone that played a great coach.
But there's something to be said about trying, if I want science,
probably Einstein's a guy I should
pay attention to.
Right, right. Yeah, but his dad did this
thing. He's not allowed to.
You know what's funny? He's got a kid here.
We can't use him. I'll go a step further.
And you guys know, our
dear friend Jerome McGinla
has produced three great
hockey players. And
you know, he was
a coach in Colonna and now he's involved with
the flames. But like when you think
about it, when I picked Jerome's brain
about hockey, he said
something to me years ago and it stuck with me. It's pretty interesting. He said, you know,
because I would tease him about like, geez, you know, you're just, you're a crazy hockey dad.
And he would laugh and say, you know, Jamie, hockey's my business. And I said, well, what do you mean?
He goes, my dad was a lawyer. He goes, my brother's a lawyer. My sister's a lawyer. He goes,
it's the family business. He goes, you know what? You know what my family business is? Hockey.
He goes, that's what I was trained in. And it's really interesting to think
about that because his
expertise he can pass on to his kids.
Why would I not want Jerome
McGillet to help out in coaching?
How about Robert Greer cruising
around the ranks and no, he's an idiot.
Yeah, like it, now it
comes back to, again, the
mistakes of the past in hockey Canada,
I'm not going to gloss over
them, but I think what, what,
is there a rule? Again, my
son's eight and he's just starting
to get into the, the craziness
of the GTA here in Toronto,
and stuff like that, right?
And I'm the other way.
I literally, my, I just found out about a month ago, which is the coolest thing.
My, there's a boy on my son's team.
His mother was Prince's guitarist, which is, like Prince.
Like, crazy.
Yes, Prince.
Like, which is unbelievable.
It's just a really cool story.
But that that family,
is like they come, they're musical.
And they just show up and they hang out.
They're not inclined to like force feeding and crazy parents.
And so I talked to the dad the other day and we were just talking music and hockey and how it all ties into each other and stuff.
It was just, it was neat because I think you, you come to the rink and you should be able to sport your children.
But like at eight, there's parents that are bringing cowbells and screaming at other kids and stuff.
I'm like, what is going on?
and is there a rule when kids get older,
like you have to,
you can't change around each other.
And you've got to do all these things like,
is that happened or is that,
again,
I'm not.
Yeah,
you're not allowed to be in the room with kids that are,
like,
you have to have more than one coach
and there's a changing and stuff.
There's some rules.
Well, hockey can't,
that's true.
Hockey Canada,
a couple of years put in the fact that you're not allowed,
you're supposed to wear your under armor.
To the rank, so you're not.
Right.
I don't know.
I don't think it was adopted by the smaller governing bodies here, but yeah, it was a thing.
I understand that, you know, they're trying to protect the children.
Listen, I played junior in the Graham James era.
You know, one of my best friends played on that team.
You know, it's, I get it.
But I just, I think when I look at it, the raw hockey pack, the package that they're putting together,
let's not forget the best players are still Canadian.
Not goalies, but yep.
But you're right.
But I do believe there, we might be in a down cycle, but I do think there's a champ.
Maybe Joel Holfer is the next Marty Berder.
I'll sell that.
You know?
Binder's not sold, but I just think that in general, like I said, am I fake drama?
Somewhat, but there are things where it's like, this is interesting and doesn't seem right.
It seems dumb.
And some of the examples I gave are things that I believe to be true.
they aren't doing what's right.
Can we get to the goalie thing?
Yeah, go ahead.
Just the last thing I want to say.
If you had to list five superstar forwards, you've got them all, right?
Yeah, the fact that Robin McGere and Colin Forbes can't coach, I think is ridiculous, though.
Like, I'm sorry, I'll leave it at that.
That's it.
So get to the goalies.
Why are the good ones?
Like we said it yesterday, is there a Canadian goalie playing now that you think could be a Hall of Famer?
It might be the first time ever.
in the NHL history with Mark Andre Fleuragon,
you're like, I don't know that we have a guy going to the hall in that.
Yeah, I mean, name me, just off the top of my head,
I'm trying to think of Canadian goalies that are, we'll call it 26, 27, and under.
There's not many in the NHL.
Like, McKenzie Blackwood's probably crossed that threshold recently.
Yeah, he's 28, I think.
So we showed this graph yesterday in 95, 96, three quarters of all goalies.
starts in the NHL or Canadian. That's down a 25%. And it's not like, oh, it just fell off.
It's a steady decline. Yeah. Do you know why? Well, I'll give you a couple of reasons. And they might not be
scientific, but. That's because that's not a word. You know what I mean. It might not be backed by
the science. Let's use that. Scientific. That's the word. Think about this. People piss and moan when a
goaltender signs for $5 million.
Hiss and moan.
Oh my God, Jack Campbell got
$5 million, okay?
Blake Coleman makes $5 million
on the third line for the
Calgary Flames.
Okay? Here's,
hear me out.
I think what's happened is
it's, goaltending has become
such a high pressure
and a tough position
where there's not a lot of fanfare.
People are mad that Shasturkin held
out for 12 million. His teammate has dry hair. Panarin, most nights. He makes 11 and 11, whatever
it is. So my point being is, like, it's not a sexy position anymore. It's not. I remember
talking to Thomas Magnuson for the goaltender coach, the head goaltender coach for Sweden.
When Henrik Lundquist was the king, every young goaltender, every young player in Sweden wanted
to be Henrik Lundquist. They had a wave of
goaltenders. And you know what else they had? They had a wave of surgeries at 14 years old because of
the new style. Everyone's hips were getting blown out. My point nowadays, if I had my choice for my
son and I thought he was talented, I'd be like, be a winger. Be a hardworking winger that
could score 20 goals in the NHL. You'll make more than a starting goaltender in the NHL.
Because that's really what the wave of it is. Why is that different in Canada than other places?
Or is it? I think the luster has come off.
goaltending in certain areas.
Now, you look at it.
Like, there's a lot of parents, like, they chase the money.
Think about it.
Who makes the most money?
Goal scores.
They make the money.
Well, and for wrong or for right, your kid's a goaltender.
I can tell you what I have.
He's pretty good.
I didn't ask him to be a goalie.
I know, I know.
But the point, a lot of it is, if my kids came to me and said they want to be
goaltors, I'd be like, oh, are you sure?
and for wrong or for right
I'm not I'm not I'm not pulling
one way or the other but that's what happens
in a family
parents go are you sure
let's try D or what you're right
it's just again there's no science
behind my comment
but I've been thinking a lot about it
it's like it's for some reason
it's become a position
that seems like it's
impender you've talked about this
it's almost like okay
one year a guy has a great year
like Brandon Bussie, non-drafted, you know, passed over.
You know, Boston had him.
All of a sudden he's in Carolina.
The guy's got the best stats in the league.
Next year, he might not.
Like it's a weird, it's become a position where it's transactional.
It's like, okay, you know, you need to be serviceable.
You just play there.
That's why it gets so worked up.
When I look at a guy like Vasilevsky, I think Vasilevsky is the most talented
goaltender from a, from a, you know, positional,
from, if I was building a goaltender, that's what it would look like.
Now, he didn't have a great 18 months.
He was bad back.
He was struggling.
Stats were down.
But if I had to build a goaltender, that's what he looks like.
And to me, I look at the Russian goaltenders.
You're right.
There's three, there's a four pack.
There's four that are better than all Canadians, better than most countries, period.
The U.S. not, you know, withstanding, because they've got depth there.
I don't have the answer, Pender.
I've been trying to think it out loud here where it's like, for some reason,
and I'll even give you an example, my son's a 2017.
I've had a bunch of coaches from, you know, AAA and all that calling
because they're like, there's not a lot of 2017 goaltenders,
which is weird.
You know what I mean?
Like I, you know, you should get an agent.
Clearly, he's eight.
The point being, the point being is,
there should be an influx.
There should be a ton of this.
This position for some reason has lost its luster.
I don't know what it is,
but it's a high pressure situation.
I don't know if, you know, the coaching,
whether it's been overcoached,
whether the position is still, you know,
under-respected.
I've had two general managers.
There's current general managers in the league
that say that the league,
the league shouldn't be called the NHL,
should be called goalie.
If you have a goalie,
you've got a good team. If you don't, your team stinks.
So maybe that's an idiotic answer and a long-winded one.
I don't have the answer to it, but I feel like somewhere along the line,
the luster of goaltending has come off in Canada.
Maybe it's because guys aren't allowed to coach their kids like you.
That's also not scientific, just for the record here.
Scientific, I apologize for the word.
But here's an example. I was texting an hour ago with Dave Mark
my goalie coach from Calgary,
loved the guy.
He's a part of the problem.
I wouldn't want to coach my son.
I can help him with the mental aspect.
I can help him with work ethic.
But I'm going to help him with approach.
What I want is somebody who's schooled in today's goaltending to work with it.
I was coaching,
I was just texting with his goalie coach,
Dave Kennedy right now because he's got,
he's working with my son tonight.
The position has become so specialized that I want my son.
son to feel the puck. I don't want him to be a blocker. I want him to be an athlete in the net.
And I think that's somewhere along the line, as we talk about with Canadian hockey, skill
development and you got to be able to stick handle in a phone booth and that. Somewhere along
the way, the grit, the instinct, all of this stuff has been taken out of it where, you know,
you do still need that. You need instinct. You need a guy who's not feeling 100% to still play that
night and not given an excuse to go, oh, you know what? You don't feeling it day off today.
Like you need some grit and determination. I always felt that that's what separated Canada
from the rest. But maybe I'm wrong. Yeah, we can do this forever. I don't have to do more.
Like one thing I wonder about, we've got so much private hockey in this country. You might have
a goalie coach coaching your kid one way. We got a kid in BC that's doing this. There's another kid in
Alberta plan under hockey. Like, are we teaching the position the same way? Because that is one of
things that without question, you have an advantage in Sweden and Finland because there's
smaller countries. You can put your best kids together at younger ages. You can get the best
10 goalies of each birth year with your best goalie coach in the country. It's not like flying
people from six different time zones. Are we lacking that consistency in curriculum?
You're bang on and you're 100% and I'm going to answer it yes. Because we forget and
you could speak to it more. That US program takes the best of the country. So they're all
under one umbrella. They're grabbing
a guy from, you know,
Montana, Jake Sanderson,
and bringing them to a guy with Boston,
from Boston, you know,
Brady Kuchuk or whoever, a younger guy,
but you know what I mean? Like all of these guys
who played college or played, they're all
under one umbrella. In Canada,
like you say, there's a guy in B.C.,
Mickey's Kid, who's Mickey's Kid
playing for? Everett.
Everett. You know, Mickey's Kid is a
prime example. If you had a
program, a Canada program,
the best coaches, the best everything,
would be coaching these guys from a certain age right up.
And that's where I think Canada might be struggling or lacking.
Or, you know, I do give credit to a lot of the coaches in Canada
because I think that they're their hearts in the right place
and they work hard.
But you're right, there's differing voices.
Dave Marku has a different outlook as opposed to Dave Kennedy
and all the people that my son has been exposed to at the age of eight,
including his old man.
don't really do the, you know, technical stuff.
I just try and tell them to be aggressive and stuff like that.
To me, you're right, I think the messaging should be won through the nation,
and you might see it come back to, you know, Canada dominating again.
But let's not lose the sight to the fact that they could win gold and we could be very happy.
And Jordan Bennington to stand on his head like he did in the Four Nations face off.
You want him or Thompson if it's a money game? Put it down right now.
Bennington, if it's a money game, because I don't know.
I've never watched Logan Thompson in a money game.
And let's not forget, I think Camper's a really good goal tender too.
Like, I don't think there's a bad choice.
I think what there is is you need somebody to be playing well.
And what we're scared of and rightfully so is statistically Jordan Bennington,
I think is like 58th in the league.
He's the worst goal in the league, yeah, with a certain minimum cutoff.
Which scares the hell out of everybody and rightfully so.
But.
No, Hooper's taking his job.
You're right.
but maybe Holfer is a Hall of Famer and we don't know it.
You know, maybe he's the next guy.
I don't know.
But my point is what scares me is,
can you just turn it on for two weeks?
You know, with a different team, a better team, obviously.
We know where St. Louis is.
And the one thing that I have,
I wouldn't say been proven wrong,
but Jordan Bennington was able to call on that last year.
And he did it in game seven on the road in 2019
and won his team of Stanley.
Cup. So he has proven
to people that he can play the big game and
not be phased. Let's see what he can
do here in this tournament, but it is a short
lease for me. I'm going to Thompson
if I don't like
what I'm seeing.
Very good.
I want you to stay on, but
it's cold out there, right? We've had like
plus 15 for two weeks here. We're going to, we're
hitting the patio. We're hitting the patio. I was
at Super Bowl on Friday or whatever
Radio Row and it was like plus 18
or whatever. It was like, minding.
minus 25 when I landed back in Toronto.
That's too bad.
And it slowed overnight.
Yesterday I had my ATV out and was doing my driveway.
And it was just, it's been a gong show.
But it's warmed up today.
It's warmed up today.
So I'm,
I think it's like minus five or something like that.
It's not too bad.
But it's frustrating to go from that type of climate back to what we're dealing with now.
Come on out here.
about you at West. Come on. Come on.
Friendly people.
You know, lower taxes. Come on.
You know, listen, I'm an Alberta boy.
I grew up there. You know. I'm always there.
I'm going to be seeing here.
Seeing you, I think, what is that? March 6th.
Caesar's. Cheese toast.
March 4th.
It's my old girlfriend's birthday.
I'll send her a card.
I don't even know.
Yeah, exactly.
Sir Christine is happy, but you brought that up.
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See you, buddy.
See ya, guys.
I think he'd stay on because he likes us.
He's great. He's the best.
Look like he had something to do.
He was trying to go somewhere,
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I know we have a water tank,
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You might have one that isn't.
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Probably get out of town.
Are the roads going to be good?
Who's driving?
Are they talking about it?
Go somewhere.
Where we go?
Which direction?
I don't know.
You just said we got to get out of town.
Yeah, we do.
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If you're asking you the roads are good.
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Keep getting drier and dry.
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Have you been told California?
Who is that?
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Yep.
Wait a minute go.
I don't want to stir up noodles too much, but I also do like stirring it.
You love the goalie debate.
It's just fascinating.
Well, you know what the hard part is?
There's no answer because you're not wrong.
That's the thing.
You could pry people.
What is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What is it?
What he said is true, but I remember being like his kids age in the late 80s,
and kids were just like, oh, goalie.
No, no.
It's not new.
I was going to say, talk to the kids, find out why.
Well, here's the.
the American registration numbers have increased.
So there's going to be more jobs lost to those guys.
The U.S. was always catching up to Canada because they had markets that weren't playing hockey that can be introduced to hockey.
What that doesn't explain is while we're still producing superstar forwards and D, we just don't have the goalies anymore.
We're screwed.
I don't think we're screwed.
I'm just fascinated by it.
Just numbers wise.
The stats won't mind.
Just get ready for the summit when Bennington allows three on four and goes full, you know, Stuart Skinner out of the game.
You'll be fair. You did the same thing before four nations and Bennington won them the tournament.
He was shaky and then awesome when you needed him. Yeah.
You have zero faith in this guy, hey?
No, I think he could be good and you could win gold with him for sure.
Right.
Just wants Marty Brodor or Pat Roy.
But again, like if we want to play the game, the last time the was 2014 was Kerry Price there.
Probably.
Was Longo there?
Probably.
This is not an outrageous take.
It's not even a take.
I mean, it's obvious.
Right.
And so you're trying to pin me as, you don't think Ben's good.
It's like, no, it's just a clear downgrade from what we've taken to every other Olympics.
That's it.
So rather than Crush Bittington, I just, I don't, anything.
We're talking about why our country can't produce prices, long as burders.
But again, you've already recognized that there's no answer to that.
We've got, basically, theories and hunches.
And keep asking.
But that's what it's going to be.
I'm the goalie expert on.
Is that a good guy to ask you?
He talked about, he didn't know, things that weren't scientific.
So I don't know.
It's got to badger the guest over a question.
I think it's very much like my,
I want to fake drama of this question.
It's like, oh, we can be outraged about the goaltending situation.
We can be concerned about it.
And we can't do F all of them.
And here's the thing.
You can be concerned that Jordan Benetton's your best option in a term like this.
You can also win goals.
Like you literally have the three best skaters on earth,
all carrying Canadian passports.
Like there's nobody in there.
neighborhood of McDavid McKinnon McCar in my opinion.
So question, because you have the same coach that was at the four nations and the coach
showed faith in Bennington there.
Yeah, who picked, because there was easy to, could have gone another way, but he stuck with
him the whole way, the coach, the coach stuck with the goalie showed faith on him and
the goalie proved that that faith was well earned.
What's different is the, the group.
What do you mean?
It's true.
It's Bennington and two different goalies.
Can you pull up our Canadian line?
So the options that Cooper would have had in four nations,
do you remember the goal is or not?
Because Montembow and Hill, I believe.
And this year it's Kemper and Thompson.
Thompson had a great year.
Is Bennington there without, like,
he's clearly not there on this year's numbers?
He's the worst goal starting,
we've got the worst numbers in the league by a certain.
I don't know if they play them.
That's my gut.
I'm kind of with you, like.
I'm not convinced that Jordan Bennington's in net.
That's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
I would love
because Cooper
like there's there's
there's something there's something there
right you're on the team
and you won me that
you and me we stuck together
and we just like
when they picked Sam Bennett
oh wait but how does
what's the statute of limitations
does that get you one start
does it get you tomorrow's start
does it keep you
that's the other thing it's like
if I'm the coach
I don't owe you anything
you're here to win gold
you're not here to do this is my
maybe one-off
opportunity to be the head coach of an Olympic gold medal team.
I'm not doing this for favors.
Yeah.
Oh, you shit.
And you can feel good that you've had an experience of the guy where he was money.
Darsie Kemper might be the guy to play.
Yeah.
Like you have two games in two days here.
So I wonder, I would, if I was betting and I don't, I'm just guessing, you see two
different goals as the first two games because you play Thursday, Friday.
I would play Thompson.
Yep.
because I think he's played better over the last year, two, three than Bennington,
even though Bennington won in the Four Nations.
Yeah.
I would play Thompson.
And if he plays well, you're my goalie.
Yeah.
You're going again.
And he would have to be really bad for me not to go back to him.
The other variable is interesting.
I don't need this tournament isn't busy enough.
I need to find a way to get everyone in.
Three game round, Robin.
Curtis Joseph,
Craf on his hands,
and a metal game.
Salt Lake, sorry.
Both of you talk.
What did you,
what?
No.
It's a,
Brett's saying it's a short tournament.
You've got three games in a round Robin,
and then three elimination games if you get to a metal game.
That is short.
Do you want to pick one ahead of the tournament and say,
don't fumble this?
You're playing three and four to start,
and you're a guy the whole way,
or do you allow two different guys?
And then the other factors,
the best team you play in the round robins is when you play tomorrow.
It's Czech Republic.
They're considerably better than a switch.
team that has some good players but isn't as deep. You're not past your knock hurdle.
It's natius. That's the check top line, right? And so do you almost give Bennington the
harder assignments so you can go away from him? Or do you say, Logan, you're a guy. This is a good
team go. And yeah, we got France on Sunday, whatever. Like, Bennington, you get France. Like,
it's France. You can't name and each other from France. It's like, do it. Yeah.
Whereas to your point, you just find your guy ride them the whole way. I don't know what you're
to learn against France or if you're sending any messages with who you
start or don't.
Wow.
If you feel,
just keep it
going to run a
rhythm.
Or do you feel
the need to rest
a guy?
Yeah.
But you're,
so if you're establishing,
I've got a guy,
but I might as well
give him a night off.
Okay.
I can understand that.
Yeah.
And it would be a lot easier
if Bington just wasn't the
worst goal in the league.
How about average?
Yeah.
Yeah,
because that's kind of what last year was.
He wasn't having a great year,
but you're like,
well,
he's been a big gay guy.
I hate Jim Montgomery.
What is it going on?
St. Louis.
Well,
you saw a hole for hiding on them.
I'm kind of with you.
To me, I would have Thompson at the top of that list.
He could just, he's been very good the last two, three seasons.
He should have on that team last year.
He doesn't have big game experience, but.
How do you get it?
He's won a cup.
How do you get it?
Not as the starter, but he's won a cup, right?
And again, like, if we're leaning on something that happened seven years ago to talk
about Bennington's big game experience.
Yeah.
To me, it was the four nations.
Yeah.
He silenced everybody.
Well, he, I don't know.
He won.
And he played well.
enough to win. He wasn't the reason they won. He was the reason they won an overtime, but he didn't
have a domic. Like that he made monsters there. That allows them to get off the mat and score. All that the
experience means is that he's not going into it with piss drippling down his neck. Like, like,
like that's all it means. He's not nervous and scared going into the situation. And these aren't
puppies. This isn't like a teenager like Macklin-Cellibrini under bright lights. Like these are guys
that have been- Why do you hate Macklin's? Love him. He's the best. I would understand if he's got
nerves, whatever. These guys have been playing pro hockey for a decade each, right?
They're all late 20s to early 30s.
Did you want to look at the lines?
It doesn't. Or do you want to do it inside the Pinder report?
I got a bunch of teams and stuff. We do it here. Got other teams in there.
Let's look at them. Because they made a little tweak, a little tweak after their indoor
secret practice. Boy, were the fellas at one of the sports stations hot about that.
There was some passive aggressive commenting. I can't believe how much.
You can some radio Ulysser.
I just had the teeth.
You still got top line Tom Wilson, Dean.
You said it was one practice.
I like that.
Two practices.
Topline, Tom.
I like that.
It's interesting.
No, it's not.
They're trying to say, well, we picked them.
We might as well use them.
Yeah.
It's interesting, too.
I think it's, uh, is that one jersey bigger than the other?
It's, it's Tom.
He's a huge man.
I thought 17 looked bigger.
I think you're hammered.
They're all the same size.
I think they're all the same size of a trip.
Well, Dean's the expert on the size of logos.
I'm with a rat.
No, it's playing tricks on you.
Wherever you focus, that one looks the biggest.
No.
Celebrity looks huge right now.
Wilson looks wide.
I think it's because there's two different jerseys.
It's an eye trick.
What about Horvat at the bottom?
Does it look skinny?
Nick Suzuki?
Does it look more slender than?
Mark Stone right above him.
I'm going to leave the graphics to Dean.
He's got a better off.
I didn't bring this up.
I'm just trying to keep you guys twisting.
Superstar, superstar, superstar,
Superstar, soon to be superstar.
It's a good group.
Like we talk about the American depth.
Like this is a,
Nick Suzuki is a phenomenal player.
He's on your fourth line.
Brad Marshand is the Olympics for Canada.
Con Smyth winner is a healthy scratch.
Yeah.
That's the thing.
You hope you look back.
It's like, boy, remember all the haranguing we did about the goaltending?
The end of the day, skill one out.
And our goalies were just solid and did what they had to do.
Yeah, there's, I don't think there's a, there should be any handling about this forward group.
Like the Americans also have a good forward group, but you're literally going McDavid, McKinnon, and Crosby down the middle.
That's insane.
Meanwhile, Boeh, Boer, Vats there with his little jersey saying, what about me?
Is it little?
I thought it was big.
Hey, little fellow.
We'll try and get you out there when we can.
Why is my jersey small?
or coach.
Me, Marshan, smaller than me
and his jersey's way bigger.
Can we like the D? God damn it?
See us where in the big jerseys on the
I hate tight jerseys.
Oh, they're so big.
Those are.
McCar doesn't need a jersey that big.
That's the Colorado pair up top
that we've seen together for, what, five years
since he made his debut, basically?
Embarrassed us.
God, did they hose the Islanders in that Taves deal,
eh?
Was it a couple seconds or a second?
Yes.
Something like that.
Calgary boy, Josh Morris,
Beauty. It's a good player.
It's a good guy. Another Alberta boy,
Perico, less enthused about his attendance.
But he's big. It's physical. He's going to
work hard. He's going to give you an honest effort.
One of his things he does.
Big. Good shot.
Solid defender. Like Sheethe
Theodore from Vegas, Sandheimen.
You know what? I would take
some of these guys on my team.
I would take Jacob Chikrin on this
team. I'll tell you that.
That's not the point. I was no. I know.
Okay. Yeah. You're definitely.
take them in the NHO where there's
32 teams. That's a good
D lineup if we're going up against
Thomas Harleys had a just okay year. He's
on the outside looking in and Drew Dowdy's the other
I thought he was ready to
catapult. It felt like he
was quite a
trajectory. Incredible rate
Harry. Stop party.
Thompson, Benner, and Kemper
are not on the board. You're not going to
be able to dress all three. Who starts
tomorrow, quick boat around the table?
What we want or what we're guessing?
Thompson.
I'm going to guess the
Thompson.
Thompson.
I'm with you,
Rhett Thompson.
Let's go.
I'll go with Binnington.
Ah, just to be different.
No, we need someone on the other side.
Also, just because it's Cooper.
Loyalty.
It goes back to why is Seth Jarvis there?
Because he was on the Four Nations team.
Because I just wonder.
Someone got hurt.
That's correct.
His points hurt.
No, but when he had the choice to pick,
you take him Bernard?
No, I'm going to take Seth Jarvis.
And I think it was Elliot who had said he was
talk to him. There's that thought that when you win as a team, you're more willing to go through
the wall for each other again the next time. There is something to that. There's also the, you've tried
to bring the O2 team to O6 and Turin and you got pants. So there's both sides.
Don't need to come on me. I'm just not coming at you at all. Why you think I was coming to
a year. You literally said it was an Elliott comment. Um, but you just, it's a year later. I agree
with it. Yeah. I take it back. Back to you. I'm with Penn. Ellie did say he did. He was just
replying to the comment and I think it's wrong as well.
Like they'd left what was it, uh,
Crosby off the 016 that feels in hindsight like what the hell
were you doing? And it was an older, more rickety roster.
It wasn't a great roster.
No one, it was a little longer in the tooth.
But this is only one year after four nations.
I mean, we're talking this thing.
That's the only reason I just wonder if it's Cooper loyalty.
Go ahead.
We all wonder that. It's much like the goaltender thing.
We can have theories and thoughts, but.
we need this term to start so we have actual games to talk about that'd be funny is it going to start
tomorrow as long as the ice is jack what are we doing for a show tomorrow tell everyone
start at 830 isn't there games on right now 830 yeah 840 puck drop you should be happy with that
you're up at 5 or 4 every day aren't you yeah but that's rush hour oh jeez oh it's pre rush hour
because you're going to come in and do that hell are you talking about pre rush hour
prush hour right on the brus had a lift today somebody who's asking if you had some
dead work done.
I think when he goes,
not from the studio,
I hear that.
I think he has a retainer maybe.
Yeah.
Maybe it fell cold out there.
I was going to ask him.
I've noticed it a couple times,
but he doesn't have it on his show.
That's what I mean.
When he's at his desk,
you never hear that.
It's only when he's like,
Camono.
In rink.
Niceest guy in the world.
Best guest we have.
I thought Sarich.
He was in Sarish.
Yeah.
Even Sarat.
So many nice guys not on the show.
There's a nice guy that we all like,
and he wouldn't come on the show this week because he's so big.
I'm not sure.
He's that nice, actually.
Oh, he would be more of the pronger.
Yes.
On the ice, not nice.
Off ice, very nice.
Yeah.
Straightforward and blunt off the ice as well.
Quite a, quite a tennis player.
You know who I'm talking about that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Bastard.
Is it the Pinder report or we just babbling?
Can be if you want.
Jack, what are we doing tomorrow?
830 are going to be here?
Puck drops at 8.45.
No, we're starting at 830.
Yes.
You've got to be here at 829.
Yeah.
Well, is there going to be breakfast?
Do you going to feed me?
Yeah.
You're going to be for.
You're going to have food here?
You're bringing breakfast.
Why am I bringing breakfast?
Because we're trying to get you in ahead of rush us.
What do you want?
Breakfast sandwich.
Bacon, avocado, crisp.
Remember those?
God, I love those.
From the Holy Grill?
Oh, the Holy Grill.
The problem with those, you know what's going to happen.
Not be times.
There's going to be some log sod as the intermission.
Yeah, Jack's going to.
starts to swallow you.
Jack's going to juggle under Steelers, Trevor at the intermission.
We're coming to net.
I mean, pillows kicking around.
There's a blanket anywhere.
Yeah, they will leave that.
But, you know, we were so used to getting up early.
We were just in a general fog and fatigue.
We were just tired.
More resilient now?
Just means you got to get a good night's sleep.
Are we going to do it or are we going to do it right?
You're doing it right?
Because you guys have been half-assing it all week.
What?
I've been trying to bring the juice.
What have you?
Can a juice have you been trying to bring?
Tell us more.
Your phone's out of juice.
So know that.
I wanted to show you this.
I don't know if it,
I don't know if it's a direct comp to
hockey players not being able to coach
or should they be coaching their kid and that sort of thing.
Greg Keller, Bontan meats.
What does Greg Keller know better than anything else?
He would know the butchering and the beef industry,
all things meaty.
Meat products,
just,
and premium, the best.
don't be afraid to have a steak have some chicken have to what do you come on
beef ribs are on the menu dean oh boy so this is uh this was a photo of mr keller's
granddaughter you know so what do you do you know maybe i'm not sure if they should be uh
look at grandpa here oh yeah we're getting we're getting the smoky we're getting it on
the stick don't be afraid of the fire get in there yes you don't need a you don't need a fancy
poker deal. Let's get a stick.
That's a nice pit. We'll
whittle it to a point. We'll throw the hot dog
on there. But what if it burns,
grab all it. It's totally. You got it.
No, get it. You're fine.
And then the reward after the work is done.
Look at that dog. Shit.
Yes.
Outstanding.
Mustard?
I love, let's look. On the chair
there is a big bottle of mustard.
Oh, good. Do you do relish as well?
I do.
I'm less of a relish guy.
What about a fancy relish?
Yeah, spicy maybe.
Spicy relish.
Well, you're fancy.
No, I just like spice more than the sweet.
So yeah.
Pardon me.
It's very pender poupon.
I love it.
You don't like a Dijon mustard?
I love a Dijon.
Greg Keller, Bontan meats.
Not saying he'll cook your wiener,
but if you need help,
if you need some assistance,
again, that's a sneaky thing with Bontas.
I don't really know.
Well, how long do you
kind of jazz there look online or something what are you doing it's like you say you don't
i know you've got another read in there and i'm going to continue to harp on this it's a nice
little couples tandem up into the north there couples to roll in it's valentine's day on
saturday you get the hubby maybe some charcoal briquettes some nice pieces of lamb or beef whatever yeah
Ask Greg.
He'll give it to you.
You picked that up.
Continue that drive back into the corner down.
What is that road?
Village Honda.
You buy a couple bridge lines.
Get a new.
His and hers.
Manches.
Yeah.
Pop in.
At the market mall.
The market mall.
It's a great.
It all works.
A nice corridor there.
Very nice.
Yeah.
Very thoughtful.
Vien and over.
I think that's not, I mean, it's kind of weak, we cook.
But that's the thing that I think women.
like, right?
They're actually coming out on top, if I'm envisioning how I would have it.
Oh.
Is that, well, that too.
They get rings and they get a new prelude and then they also get fed.
What a day.
They get fed.
Yeah.
That's great.
I had a cart because I remember handwritten.
That's right.
Viena Nova lab grown diamonds.
You may, you don't need to go in.
I mean, we'd love it.
You did.
Look at Jack.
He's afraid to put the thing out.
Vita Nova.com is the website.
It's lab-grown diamond specialists.
No one in Calgary does what they're doing,
and that is lab grown, 50, 60, 70%,
depending on the product.
More affordable.
That means cheaper than earth-mine diamonds.
That's what more affordable means?
Grown in a lab.
By like a little bit or by like a lot of it.
Same chemical composition and structure
as a natural earth-mine diamond.
So it's the same or better.
So can I just jump in here because my eyes are good?
Yeah.
Due to its identical nature.
That's right.
You said it yesterday.
Until they find, they figure this loophole out.
50 to 70% less.
That seems like a mistake.
We better snap these all up before they figure that out.
Market mall, parking, prices, product.
It's all there for you.
Who's the hottie in the corner there?
What's that over?
That's Jack.
In his Red Sox hat.
Nope.
Jack, you commenting?
What?
He's a little nervous thing.
Trip,
Trepanation.
I don't think you'll have time to create a custom piece right now.
But you could go in.
No,
you're not going to have that kind of time.
You could go in there and start the process,
and that's by being up.
You could say, here's the gift.
You're going to make something that's one kind on earth like our love.
Here we go.
No sense having me design you a piece.
Let's go, babe.
Yeah.
Then I put these little laser things on the side.
No, no, no, no.
You design.
Yeah.
We have three dogs.
So we need three.
hearts on our pendant, whatever it is.
Sure.
You have three now?
Did you get another dog?
I did not.
No.
I'm anticipating having three, though.
No, dear.
When do you live in town, rat?
There are three total dogs.
Two live in one house.
One lives in another.
Vinova.
Bontan meets, but you're right.
You can go, oh, I've got to make reservations or whatever.
Or you could go to Bonton and be like, you know what?
What about this?
Got some.
Got some wine
Got some roofies
Got some tea bones
What?
We're gonna have a great day
Babe Ruthus
You're not gonna remember
For any of it
But some old Ron
Some Ron
Yeah
Well Captain Ron
And you
Have a night
So you guys
You guys got a big plan
Saturday?
I thought you were coming over
I'm coming
Well the shovelers
That's what she asked for
Too far
To fuck
Back to you
rep. It's the Pender
apart for Vellichon to Friends.
I was just up there this morning.
Everyone's smiling. Great service. Wonderful mood.
Well, they're not having to blow off
old snowblown.
That's right. Minus 70 vehicles.
Don't need your parka.
Just regularly scheduled
maintenance. The service department is everything's looking great.
Mr. Pinter. Here's the deal. Can we get you a shuttle sewer?
Service. Phenomenal.
People are the best. Are you getting a rotation as well?
Are you getting them rotated?
We phone up there and say, screw this guy over.
or don't give them anything.
They won't do that.
Tell him that his car.
Windshield fluid heaters on the fritz.
No.
There's no.
That's the worst.
We should call the Anthony and say, don't give him.
Your headlight fluid.
No.
Do not give him a ride back to the studio.
They got the shuttle and we'll drop people off along the way.
Yeah, yeah.
People mapping out like this guy's going here.
We'll drop this one.
Everyone direct routes.
And the lady in the car with me was getting dropped off by the Foothill's
hospital.
She said, you know, I live a lot.
closer to a different dealer.
But the service here is exceptional.
I'm driving further for Village Honda and the service.
And I believe it.
That's the kind of people they are.
VillageHonda.com, Northwest Automol dealership for life.
Let's get into some flames news and notes, Dino.
What flames?
There's, well, I guess you get POSSA at the Olympics.
One other player, Macar, not tanning.
He's not a flame yet.
Dean hasn't got his wish all yet.
It's Mad Vigridden at the American Huff.
Hockey League All-Star game.
You made a little montage of Gridden.
Look at this dirty move.
A little breakaway competition.
Oh, he's going tweener.
Just kidding.
Yoink.
That goal was,
that's okay.
I should have done that.
That is tidy.
I've never seen the faux tweener where you just play it back up to yourself
and then tuck it in.
That is dead sexy.
Very good.
That's very,
I love foe.
Yeah, foe is really good.
Is it fun?
That's what I don't care.
Now, this is a three on O.
It's called the passing challenge.
Three forwards and or skaters.
No defenseman and a goalie.
I don't know why goalies don't want to play net.
Yeah, weird.
Don't get points for.
The, uh, so they're one for one here.
You get three zone entries.
You're trying to go three for three.
Gridden back and forth.
Easy tapping on the back door.
Let's see if they can go three for three here.
Gridden carries in.
All right.
Slide that over.
Timers.
Smooth mitts.
Yoink.
Three for three.
Boys look good.
You also competed.
And the fastest skater.
That guy lost his teeth.
He did.
His teeth.
Jibs.
Now, Matt Vey, here's the problem with being as fast as Matt Vey Gridden.
You almost need a bigger surface to skate.
Because here's the thing.
Look at him.
Go.
He's building up speed.
He's humming.
He's reaching third gear.
He's kicking it in a high gear.
He doesn't run out of the double.
Oh.
Well, here's a think kid.
You shouldn't try so hard.
There's less than 20, 19 year olds ever that have gone to this thing.
And it's good company, the likes of, you know, ranting in the,
and such of the world.
Company that he ran into the wall?
No, 19-year-olds of the All-Star game.
Where's the All-Star game?
I believe Rockford-Oll and nobody.
You can't even get hammered.
You're 19.
There's a tilt there.
I lost a game of credit card roulette at.
It's a horrible place.
It'll get you.
It'll get you.
Good for him.
Good for him.
Great player.
Exciting season.
Finally drafted someone worth watching.
Way to go, Conner.
Go, Tudder.
One's less than right, but.
You're right.
God damn it's from the same
HL All-Star game.
Check this move out
because we've seen all these crazy deeks
and a breakaway move.
This is the first time I've seen this one, right?
You've got younger kids that are,
you might have seen this before
because I know you're working with them.
You're a talented guy yourself.
Ed Barrett.
The Amitzkirt Kinnock's.
Through the circle.
We're going to slow that down.
It looks like he's just going to the backhand,
but he somehow turns the blade over
and tucks it in lacrosse style.
Where's he from?
It's an Abbotsford Kinnocker.
But where's he from?
Boudard, I don't know.
You tell me.
That is so dirty.
That's so dirty.
Like you got twist those arms.
That doesn't make sense to him.
So you want to be a goalie.
I don't want to be that bad bad guy at the back of his head.
He looks cool.
He really sold out though.
The goalie early.
Well, I think you're going low.
Jack, what's wrong with the penguin's gulleting?
This is terrible.
Yeah, who is that?
Come on, Jack.
That's pretty cool.
Is that the Finn and that?
I have no idea.
mash her off.
It doesn't sound finish.
Okay.
We showed you the Canadian lines and net miners.
Damn right.
They're in action tomorrow.
The men's tournament is underway today.
Before the show started, it was 1-1
between the Slovaks and the Finns.
The Finns were considerable favorites coming in.
Slovaks were up 3-1 last check.
Wow.
That's actually quite something.
Huge upset.
Brewing.
I want to actually get the live score.
Sorry still for me.
It's important to him.
You can't listen to you.
Last check, he said it was 3-1.
Was that check like an hour ago or recently?
That would be the 4-1, your final.
There it is.
Holy.
So we start the tournament with an upset.
Slavkovsky with a pair.
He has nine Olympic goals, Dean.
Olympic gold medals?
Goals.
Because he played in that 2018 version as a 17-year-old for Slovakia.
That's a lot of goals.
How'd the Hobbs get him?
They drafted high, I believe.
Was it maybe even first over?
Yeah.
Weird.
That seems like fantasy hockey, though.
Yeah.
Speaking of a lot of goals in the Olympics,
I believe you asked the question in our group chat.
I did.
Who scored the most goals for team Canada at the Olympics ever?
At least amongst any chillers.
Well, of course it's.
Were they using this or was this randomly or did you steal my idea?
This was before I saw you.
asked the question.
Oh.
And that's why I knew the answer to the question.
I had seen that our nerds at Flames Nation have been grooming over Olympic history to find
the Flames Anger.
I thought we had 12.
It's quite a few.
10 is it?
Slavkovky's about to pass them.
Jesus.
Not for Team Canada, but.
Right.
Yeah.
I just mean in terms of, uh, I thought it would be some duster that didn't play in the
NHL and used to go to the Olympic Hills.
Yeah.
Some Chris Contos or something.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
I don't know why that makes me laugh.
It's always that Father David Bauer was coaching him down in Calgary there, hey?
Some Lonnie Bahanas.
Yeah, something like that.
The Slovaks won today.
We just told you that.
Here's their lineup.
This is like,
there's a lot of not NHL players on this team.
It's a team game,
it is a team game,
but Slovakia,
this is like,
Lavi and net?
Farivari plays for the capital
Nemich the devil, Chernak, a Tampa Bay Lightning.
Martin Marenchen used to play in the NHL.
Is that Ivan, Ivan?
What are all these things on top of the legs?
Yeah, there's all kinds of accent,
to the goose and stuff, but they're called other things.
Umlots, I don't know.
Slavkovsky, Rizizhka, Al, former flam, Adam Rizhikar,
Topline Center, Tom Tatar.
I love Tatar.
Dvorski's in the NHL now.
Paul?
No, what is it?
Pete?
Dullaby.
Dvorsky, something like that.
Marty Pospisal, the Regenda kid, I believe, is in...
They're just saying names and nobody knows.
Well, I'm just noting the NHL. Sharks, right?
And Jack and I were looking up the Oculia.
Their unusual name.
He played for Florida's affiliate last year.
Anyway, it's not an NHL littered roster.
They just beat the Finns, who almost are entirely made of NHL.
It's great start to the tournament for Sloval.
So the NCHL is still good.
I that wouldn't be my takeaway but that can be yours so what he's saying folks
Canada plays the check wrong yeah keep going okay so here's the thing with
Bennington it's been the worst goal in the NHLS oh I hadn't heard that yeah but Matt Larkin
trying to convince me that he should be starting brother tomorrow you know what that is
that's the Americans trying to get in the Canadian's heads because that's still
in Larkinsboro.
Okay.
Well,
that's definitely
quiet,
wrong.
But okay.
We can play against the checks
we talked about
already.
Do you want to look at
the checks their opponent?
I'm getting almost bored
of this Bittington conversation.
Yeah,
we've got to move on.
Look at that top line.
Natchez,
hurdle,
Pasternak.
That's a legit unit.
Woo!
Kasha,
longtime NHLer,
I don't believe this year
anymore.
Camp and Palat,
Forever a Flame Roman Trevenka.
Nobody's not playing center, Dean.
Still, not a center.
That's weird.
Still, not a center.
And David Tamashek, of course, was brought into Edmonton to be some really important piece of their forward group this year.
They've already terminated his contract at the NHL level.
Somewhere today.
You never see it coming.
Jay Feaster is sitting somewhere.
I take a strike.
Somebody really.
In 26, they're still talking about.
Roman Trevenka and Calgary.
Oh, those losers up there.
Yeah, well, Pat Seulov's not on the Canadian or American team, either.
There you go.
Decor, there's a couple names you'll recognize here for sure.
For the Czech squad, Philipperonic, Vancouver, Radco Gudis,
big ball of muck, long-time Florida Panther, now in Anaheim.
And are these jerseys different sized?
No, you're just having an acid flashback.
Goaltenders, let's take a peek, shall we?
Good.
ending tandem. We're trying to remember what the backup was because you know Lucas
DeStal was great. Correll, Venti Moka.
The Melka. He's been very good. You lead in the NHO Wednesday.
That's right, Ryan. This tandem is very good.
Could we trade?
Don't know if they allow trades in the Olympics, Dean.
Damn. It's tricky.
How hard is it to get a passport?
Ask Jack.
4-840 tomorrow morning?
Still is now.
Expedite it.
He doesn't?
No.
I've got two.
I talked to the guy and he said it'd be fun.
And I made it.
He got to Nashville and he got back in somehow.
Back to you, Ryan.
Yeah, back to me.
Say a quick peek at the Americans.
This is the co-favorite of the event.
Canadian's slightly lower odds.
Skinnier odds than the Americans.
Expected to be a final.
There's Matt Larkin's brother.
I don't want to be.
Oh, God.
Gensel, Matthews,
He was boldy, kachuk boys,
flanking Eichael, that's a scary line.
Kyle Connor, Dylan, Lark, and T. Thompson, that's also a scary line.
J.T. Miller, less scary, as long as he's wearing Rangers colors,
with old man Brock Nelson, who's having a great year on Pace for 40,
and Jack Hughes, fourth liner.
You've got to be good and maybe not having the best year for that to happen.
Americans are good. Jack Hughes is not setting the world up there.
Deep. Deep.
Vinny Trocheck not in there.
He's an extra as well.
I'd be sitting J.T. Miller just to see how pouty I could get them.
Yeah, you don't want Jason Robertson there.
I'm going to bring you to the Olympics.
Yay! And not play you.
Cool coffee.
Grump.
J.T.
This is where organizations are stupid.
Take that, Billy Garen.
Ripp's calling you stupid.
I am.
Decor looks a little smarter.
I'll say that.
You get some real good players in the back end.
Quinn Hughes, Charlie McAvoy, Jacobs, Laban,
Brock Faber, Noah Hanifin, Zach Worinsky.
Oh, my God.
Jake Sanderson's your ex.
not in the lineup?
That's how good they are.
I would put him in ahead of Hanifin, though.
Me too.
And no to D-Man.
No, what it is is you dress
21 guys for the Olympics,
so you actually are allowed 13 forwards
and seven defensemen, which is weird.
So they're listing the extras as D-Men.
But only for the Americans for some reason.
Thank you, DailyFaceoff.com.
Well, we should do our own shit
instead of complaining about others.
Pretty good at complaining, though.
You've got to be honest.
Oh, so.
good.
Like there was complaining at the Olympics, we'd be there.
Hellebuck, Ottinger, sway dog is, would be the other that is not mentioned.
And Thatcher Demko's thinking, man, if I could ever stay healthy, maybe I could even be on this team.
But you can't, though, Thatcher, you're never healthy.
You're always hurt.
I'll tell you, both of those guys in their own way have had some, as much as we're going on about Canadian goaltending.
Hella buck and the playoffs, it's been a huge story for a number of years.
And Ottinger, it feels like maybe the blooms off the rows a little bit.
I can't believe you want to open up this conversation again.
Why not?
Yeah, you are.
Now you're taking runs at Pinders saying you think that the American goaltending is so good,
but clearly it's not.
Hellabuck has stunk when the pressure's on and Ottinger's never gotten anything done.
Well, Dean's daughter was a goalie, so clearly he just wants to talk about his dominant
goaleting parenting.
She was a good goalie too, right?
She had a real future.
If we could have more goalie talk.
All right.
Without, with no answers to be.
We got a lot of that coming up.
bring some people on really press them on it yeah good maybe our best most important guests
really put them in the grinder yeah just get them on it yeah but it wasn't always that way
squeeze them right get in there yeah none of these guys are going to the hall of fame what the fuck
what the hell damn guy noodles what the fuck why didn't you do a better job noodles uh uh he's so
rattle he's making like words and stuff scientific all right we get an ask grip
from yesterday. We don't always get aspirates, but
sometimes people have, oh,
geez, sorry? Someone
was watching from Western New York,
which we love to see.
Ryan, I love your show.
You and Boomer Redder awesome. I'm a Sabres fan.
I used to like Calgary when
Phil Housley played there and had a jersey.
The house is a jersey I imagine?
Just a question, is Rhett as soft as the
odds ice?
Ha ha.
Soft in what way?
What way was? Tender,
emotional. My fat,
Pudgy pricks.
Why, it used to be.
I think I'd tighten it up a little over.
Did the odd have bad ice?
Notorously soft ice?
The odd was a dump.
A real dump.
So when you got there, they were planting at...
This is the thing that you...
Like, in today's world, professional sports,
and I think hockey is finally catching up to the rest of them,
when I started, there were guys making less than six-digit salaries.
Crazy.
And we were a flying commercial
and you were living in a one-bedroom dump
and you were playing at the odd.
Not as sexy.
Which is no better than Max Bell.
Just bigger.
A little bit bigger.
Actually probably worse off them.
I forget who was telling me the story at the odd
at the Zamboni gate entrance.
On apocrym.
if they
they would try and kick the dasher
to time it
because you wouldn't see the puck
but if it was coming in
and then you'd try to kick it
to see if it would spit out
in front of the net for a scorch
and pop the gate
and sends it out
I love it
because there was I don't know
if they're whatever
enough movement
yeah
the boards were so shitty
you could affect the play
by kicking the boards
impressive
yeah soft
I'm just old
it's okay man
you know what we're all getting old
it's just a fact of life
yeah
but finally
being old
feels like it's getting a little cooler
you know what I mean
well you can try and sell yourself
no no I'll check this out because they got jerseys
for us and everything here we go ready
okay this is
this is our gout jersey
so it's called the gout non-athletics
lymphin ATZ
got gout
got on them
we don't usually pimped internet clothes
Yeah, I like the gut, goat athletic line.
I got to call me one of those.
Limpin ain't easy.
Boy, I mean,
knock out wood.
It's been a, it's been a long time since I've had a,
yeah, we'll all knock on that.
A goat flare up.
Jack, you ever had goat?
No, and I'm still not entirely sure what it is.
No one really is.
That's part of goats.
It's all that you need to know.
You'll know soon enough.
Oh, yeah.
Goats undefeated.
You'll get some at some points.
You'd be like, did I kick a cinder block without
knowing it.
Jesus, did I,
the hell,
did I drop a anvil on my foot?
You'll be later there trying to sleep jack
and you're like,
did someone put my toe in a vice grip?
You're like,
oh no,
that's just a linen sheet.
Yeah,
do I have,
is my foot in a vice?
That's great.
How does that happen?
What's the,
nobody knows,
Jurek acid.
It's just the buildup of uric acid.
Yeah.
Put you on the colchicine right away
and then we'll get you on the all
Purinol.
It's getting old, Jack.
Get excited.
I'm pumped.
Catch the taste.
Hey, Red, have you ever put a pool in the back of a moving truck?
I was so hoping we were over.
Bring you the one that asked about 1145?
I said 1145.
There's no reason.
He totally done pools in the back and trucks.
Obviously.
You think the wave pool is a good toss.
Look at this idiot.
I saw this on Yellowstone.
Pretty good stuff.
Yeah, at some point you're going to catch something with an edge,
and that's not going to be as fun.
Finally, we'll close out with another dog for Dean,
because we want to end the Pender report on positive notes.
We had the Zamboni dog yesterday.
Today we bring you.
We bring you, that's very funny.
One of the greatest jumping dogs.
Spitfire.
This is Spitfire. Say hello.
Ready, ready, ready.
Look at a fucking slow-mo video.
You know, wide the back legs are coming.
He's what?
He's trained.
He's a joke, but he's all the time to train.
And now they're videoing it in slow motion with dramatic music.
Watch this thing fly.
Oh.
Oh.
Majestic, dude.
Yeah.
All of the watch pro lose.
Now we go for a fight.
Michael Jordan of dock diving.
They had an army in the parking lot
And like a half-million dollar dog pool
Is that?
Can we go swimming in the pool?
No, that's for the dogs.
Yeah, that's not a swimming pool.
No, that's his office.
It's a dock dive.
He's working.
Landings area.
He's training for the Milan 27 dog gays.
There's Spitfire on a beautiful Wednesday, February the 11th.
We could Friday the 13th soon.
That's right.
I thought about that.
Friday.
I do just as 14th Valentine's Day.
It's like, oh, that's Friday the 13th.
Bill Chonda.
The preludes back.
Rett's excited.
Go get one for your wife, Rhett, for Valentine's Day.
Or your ex-girlfriend.
Yes, because she got a birthday coming up to.
March 4th.
Unlike Rhett's relationships, it's a dealership for life.
That's right.
How many of those can you remember, Rhett?
Girlfriend's birthdays?
Yeah.
How do you know?
I remember. Maybe I'm just making it up.
It's a hell of a bit.
I see a lot of it. Loud.
Yeah.
I mean, he's been consistent with the days.
There you go. Just go with confidence.
So people aren't going to deal.
Drill in March 4th.
The same time.
Blonde and Burnett.
Hey, y'all.
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and not just in the traditional sense.
What used to be buttoned up has opened
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You're seeing athletes from all kinds of different
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The result is the Fairwaves
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You could get me that for Halloween.
Levelware. Toddp.
Valentine.
Halloween'd be a little early.
Halloween gift.
Halloween, too.
I don't know if it's crazy enough
everyone dresses up. I'm with Dean on
this one where they could probably throw the website
under the
it's a good website too.
I brought that up a week ago when you're a
fashionist.
Levelware.com is the website.
Check out the
the gear.
You're kind of,
you wear the prints and the stuff like that, right?
I like the Hawaiian kind of.
I like the Hawaiian vibes.
The floral vibes, the coastal lives.
Yeah.
Spat got the, uh, yeah, bills,
Bill's one.
I mean, it's just fun, right?
Yeah.
How could someone not, oh, it's too risky?
You're a fun guy.
It looks like there's a rod up your ass or you want to have,
like you're having fun.
Loos it up.
Seriously.
Let's go.
Loosen up.
Here's the Fairway collection right there.
I'm going to that here.
I know.
I want some.
Golf bag.
Like that one.
I need new gear.
What's the pineapples?
Can't wear bills stuff.
Loveware.com.
Shoveler.
Retro.
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Yeah.
All right.
You got a couple Olympic bets, fellas.
Wow.
I think Chekia is going to surprise some people.
I think the goaltending is a big part of it.
Amalca to stall.
That top line can hang with anyone's when we're talking.
What?
We had Naceous.
hurdle, Pasternak.
I'll tell you what will help that is a early Finland loss.
100%.
Locks them out of potentially in the end there.
Well, I mean, different pools, but yes, it's a top three for the tournament.
Yep.
And so what you need is check you to win a quarterfinal and get to semis and win a bronze game at worst.
I think they can do that.
So we have to win like five games.
Probably do it by winning four even.
Just make sure it's the right one.
It's the right one.
Two and one and then two.
Good for me.
And I like Maclin Celebrini.
If he's going to stay on this line with Big David,
what do you think he's going to be doing?
I think he's going to get a lot of backdoor tapins.
Kind of like the way that everyone sees Zach Hyman
just ramming the puck into the net
and the incredible rate, Harry.
I don't know if Zach Hyman does that
if say he's playing on Michael Backlin's line, for example.
Celebrating to be the top goal score,
not point getter, but goal score in the tournament.
18 to 1.
Kennan's very high up in this.
Pasternak's there.
obviously you have the Matthews and Eichols, those types of the Americans,
but Celebrating a little bit sneaky.
If he continues to play with McHezus, why not?
You like the number.
18 to 1.
It's a big number.
I like the player, too.
I feel like if you played this tournament 18 times, he'd do it more than once.
I say something that I don't normally say,
because it's in a positive light for an Edmonton Oiler,
but I would have taken Hyman.
To this tournament?
It would make some sense.
I just said, yeah, you go.
Seth Jarvis.
That guy that you play with.
How about you do you know how to play with him?
Yeah.
You've got, you seem to be doing all right.
Let's put you out there.
It was like when Chris Kunitz went.
Yes.
Because he was playing with Crosby, almost exclusively, and they just had a chemistry.
Yep.
It's like us.
Yeah.
Great chemistry.
I know where you're going to be.
I know what you're going to do.
Yeah.
So when I go to the Olympics for loud and wrong, I need you guys there to support me.
We work together.
Team me up.
for my loud wrongs.
Yeah.
Super chats.
Do we have it?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, good.
Yeah.
It's a caring audience, our community.
Love giving back.
Youth Centers of Calgary
going to benefit from today's super chats.
On the handshake line debate
from Working Man 22.
I love it always have.
It says a lot of competitors
to have some class,
even if you got your ass kicked.
NFL example, Brady,
always going right to exits after big losses.
Tommy.
I've given my take
get it I can understand why some people like it
but being consoled by a bunch of guys
that you just tried to kill
all the fans like it I think
but we've never been in that moment besides you
red so there is that I didn't bother shaking
red has the unique perspective we don't know
but you would have a bunch of shakes at the end of series
just yeah what about when you win
because obviously you're always talking about you know what else
like it's not a ton
easier, but it's different if you
lose in the first round
than in the championship game
more for sure.
Those stakes are higher, right?
Anyway, they're not going to change it
and there's nothing wrong with it.
So go ahead until someone gets a fight.
Don't know, change it.
Almost you.
That happened in one of my daughters
ringette games.
One player punched somebody.
Oh, there's been some shoddy behavior.
Yeah.
R.
RB.
Chernack.
Cherr-Chir-Snack.
Is he meaning Chervanka?
Or, oh, maybe this is a
draft more.
Okay.
So we have to do some homework.
Chernack, plus one today,
solid 6-3 UFA right-hand D.
We Biggle.
Okay.
We got lots of right-handed D.
We do have a lot.
But we're rolling this roster over.
It's good to have options.
Keep your eyes open.
So he is,
33.
Okay, good young prospect.
I think this is the same guy.
Solid six.
Yeah, he's at Slovakia at the Olympics.
He's 33.
Okay.
All right, he's plus one.
So you could get a couple months out of them.
Just buy some brown bananas.
Yeah, just enrage the fan base for playing him and not.
Oh, he's the best chance but outside the NHL.
What fuck are we doing?
Prex sitting for this game.
Trevenka may score 10 goals for less than 10.5 million.
Two wrongs don't make her right.
That's a great point.
by you because that is a factual statement,
but that doesn't mean that's a good decision.
Yeah.
So level headed today.
I am.
That's because I don't have my insulin levels.
Yeah.
It's because you got his F-poms about to pass right out.
The referee's done in the pre-show.
Yeah.
Thank you, RMB.
See 279 every time is that just something like that.
Yeah.
Uh, JP 1176 99, Pinder, they brought the same team in 06 as it was in 02.
There were 15 new players on the.
the 016. I think what I was true.
Loud wrong. There was just an old group.
I don't know what you were saying.
Yeah. I don't really pay attention.
So I'm going to look at that.
Oh, 16.
You don't bring Sid?
I would put my money on JP being correct.
I think J.B.'s probably right.
He's probably right.
Again, he's sticking his neck out with 15 new players.
It's a lot.
It's a specific number.
He's either loud wrong or I'm a lot around.
I'll say that.
One of you is loud wrong.
Yeah.
It's true.
I think I know where I'm putting my $6.99.
Yeah.
At this point.
Thank you, JP.
JP, it's hard.
When you're in the middle of a show, you're kind of, you don't know where the
time of research is, everything, you're going to go.
You can't have everything.
It's very hard.
I recall being underwhelmed with an old roster, but to J.P.'s point, maybe it was just
an old bunch of newcomers.
Oh.
Well, I know you'll look for it.
We'll do our best to defend a horrible take.
RB 279, Boomer.
Weeger is a number one defenseman.
Boy, you can't.
And minus 32 at age 32 at age 32.
I don't think this is where you want to plan your flag.
Is that a loud wrong or is this guy?
What did I say earlier?
Two wrongs don't make her right now.
This is true.
And I don't think you need to bring a 33 year old over to help you out.
I think that.
No, I think this goes back to the whole thing.
At the start of the season, I said I liked Uighur.
I had Uyghur ahead of Anderson in terms of the flames depth.
And he was better last year.
Not to say he was a number one defenseman.
I just said that I thought he was their best D-Man.
And he's had a horrible year.
And Rasmus has been great.
He's not far removed from top pair of defensemen play.
He isn't.
He had 20 goals here a couple of years ago.
You had a much better year last year.
It's been a down year.
It's been a down year.
And just like Rasmus had a down year last year.
And he was in the green jacket running.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Loud wrong.
Or medium volume wrong.
I was wrong.
Bullock racing $3, $3,150.
Wow, 50.
Back to the goalie topic.
When I was growing up, hockey Calgary,
Marku and Noodles would do clinics at the dome for coaches
and young goalies to watch.
Are skills clinics still happening like this?
Always thought it was great.
They did that for us kids and coaches.
Of course, they're 10 grand drop in.
We can get, yeah, we still got spots.
Spots, bearable.
You long cash, they'll take an organ.
So they'll just take that thing, throw out in about size.
Yeah, if you don't want to donate your hard-earned cash,
we'll sign, you can sign under our agency.
We'll take 10%.
You put 50 bucks down.
I'm not.
So I'll say this.
I've got a 10 year old.
The association subsidizes a weekly goalie thing,
but still out of pocket, but not nearly as expensive,
would be going full private.
And there are hockey Calgary,
uh, sponsored coach speaking series.
I'm sure at least one of year would be goalie themed.
Like I know Huska,
spoke to a bunch of coaches a few months early January.
And there's another one more recently.
So there are lots of resources out there.
But again, there's also thousands of goalies in Calgary.
Yeah, there's lots of resources.
All of them are not free.
That's correct.
Most of them cost a lot of mine.
And that is the one underlying.
Also a big issue with the sport in general.
Yes.
Ryan, your son that plays goalie, who is his favorite goalie?
Dad.
Macklin Celebrini.
He's like a big numbers nerds.
So he's always leaning towards like the Vasilevskis or someone that's posting big numbers.
I don't know that he'd tell him how he plays or anything, but he just looks.
That guy's got a good save percentage.
He's good.
I like him.
That tracks.
Numbers guy.
Thank you, uh, Bullock for the 50.
50 bucks for the kids.
Very nice.
Socious 19, 10 bucks.
Saw an article by Woodley.
He said the CHL doesn't have reasonably paid goalie coaches if the team even has one.
In the NCAA, C-C-W-HL, etc.
They have top-end, well-paid and dedicated goalie coach.
NHL, I believe, is the junior equivalent in Russia.
This is a very unpopular take, and it bothers people because there's so much history test to it.
I don't think the CHL model is the best model anymore.
It's too diluted.
You've got 60 teams, and you might have a couple superstars per conference rather than all under one roof.
I don't mind the national development team program.
It doesn't mean it's a bad model.
I don't mind your comment, but I don't like your reason.
It might not be the best model, but saying it's too diluted, there's 32 NHL teams now as well.
Yeah.
And there's no reason that you should only have 10 CHL teams.
And now you've eliminated once again all the kids that are trying to get there and taken out, cut their legs off because they got nowhere to go.
Yeah.
And I'm not saying the number of franchises wrong.
I'm just saying if you wanted to work with the best Canadian goalies and get them into a lab.
I would say this.
There's 120 of them in the CHL.
You'd like to condense it more than that in theory, right?
Well, yes, but I would say this, that the funding that the CHL has isn't enough.
And I don't know how to fix that issue because I'll tell you what,
the Swift girl Broncos would love to have David Markoo, as their NHL coach.
But guess what David Markoo is not going to do, go make 10 grand doing it?
Yeah.
And meanwhile, you've got your London night.
and Corona Rockets
that teams that can afford
very high end.
It's the halves and have nots.
There's a big gap there.
100% huge halves and have nots
in junior hockey.
And I have no idea how to fix it,
but it's the truth.
And part that is what you're just saying.
That's why.
You can't go get a top end NHL guy,
goaltending coach for 12 bucks is an hour, right?
It just doesn't happen.
You'd be lucky if someone was from
I'm using Swiftcourt as an example because I grew up here there and I know how they struggle with it.
Maybe there was an NHL goalie that came through Swiftcourt and retired back at home.
Yeah.
Give back.
Swift current's a tough sell.
But possible.
Even talking to Mike Soroka, who was in town over the winter, we had a couple buddies reacting with him and saying like, what are the sports science guys like in Major League Baseball?
And he's like, surprisingly bad because the teams don't pay well and they start their own training facilities.
and go private.
And so even with Major League Baseball,
we're talking about probably a $10 to $15 billion a year industry.
They're still not paying for the top end sports science
because guys can just go make more going off on their own.
And that's probably what you're seeing in the goalie space.
If I start pinders a moron loud wrong goalie school,
I'm probably going to make more running that than taking a salary
from whatever team can afford to pay me.
I had to get to set your own time hours.
Totally.
well, there's some real serious
that's a lot of sports
shattered today.
Like thoughtful
thoughtful stuff.
Scientific for sure.
He has been captivated by it.
He loves this talk.
Yeah.
Spellbound, you could say.
He lives it, he breathes it.
This is the kind of stuff that.
Dean said in his alarm early,
he's got his pregame routine tomorrow.
He's going to get his helmet on for this year.
You're throwing nitro into the gas tank.
Yeah.
No, the goalie, the what's wrong with
Canadian goalies and how do we fix
goalies. I'm there for
it. You're here to
fix the problem? Oh man. I can't wait
as soon as I wrap this shit up.
He's going to get his voice hard. I'm going to
Father David Bauer. I'm going to grab some people.
We're going to sit down.
We're going to talk this shit. They're at Winsport.
Whatever, yeah. I'll go there too.
I'll start a father David Bauer. Then I'll
go out there.
Just grab anybody that doesn't have a goalie
goalie pads when they walk in. What the fuck? Why
aren't you playing goal? Why are you playing? What the fuck?
Talk to me. Sit down, son.
Sit out.
Sit out.
Have you seen that chart pinder had in the show two days ago?
You're trying to kill this country?
What are you doing?
Huh?
Build pipelines, get goalies.
Let's go here.
We need a silo.
Get all you fuckers together.
Yeah, sorry, guys.
It's hard for me to get to them.
That's all right.
We just need content for the beast.
Yeah.
Jack.
Go ahead.
No, I can do it after.
What do you got?
I'm not pissing around here.
If I'm coming at 830 tomorrow,
something's coming with me.
What am I bringing? What are we doing?
This is not, we're going to have jerseys or we're wearing jerseys?
You got a jersey jacket.
If you wear your American jersey, you're going to throw you through the window.
What are we doing?
Window.
Window.
That's the window, boy.
America.
What do we doing?
Well, you're bringing breakfast.
I can bring around a coffee's for everyone if you like that.
Maybe Americanos or something like that.
You got coffee station.
Glug, glug.
Is that what you were talking about, like food, this sort of thing?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we're going to make a festival of it, right?
It's the rest of the rest of the rest of.
We're allowed to say that word.
I said it.
Damn it.
Festival?
Yeah, whatever we want to do.
That's, let's, shoo.
Yeah.
It's cool out.
You make some buns.
Oh, it's not really a breakfast thing.
So we put a bacon and all the, yeah.
Bupa bacon.
Oh, I guess after the show we'll talk about it.
Yeah, we'll have a good little meeting.
We're a lot of Tuesday's meetings.
Yeah, Wednesday.
Tuesdays.
Yeah.
It was Tuesday.
Uh, breakfast sandwich, yes.
8.30 start.
8.30.
So the game's at 840, right?
Yeah.
Oh, again.
That's, ooh.
Well, why we're starting early?
And are we staying on until the, like,
yeah, we got to do the whole game.
So what do we start in 10 minutes early for?
That's 10 minutes.
God, he's a ball buster.
Like, well, we're saying 830 because if we say 830,
we'll actually start by 845.
Yeah, we're trying to give it to Jack.
Yeah.
I got to figure it out.
All right.
Yeah, you got to figure it.
Jack?
Yeah.
How was a show to
best of the week
what well that's a low bar
I think it was but it's a low bar
and we cheated
best of the week oh for sure
really oh not even close
but we cheated
why noodles
yeah but we use noodles for boring talk
I don't think so I think people like it
you find it boring
you find it uh yeah
numbing but you also don't like
Game of Thrones, which people loved and you won't eat meat love, which is weird.
It looks good.
You should try me to love.
And you hate lamb.
I don't understand.
So who's weird?
What would you say?
Me, I guess.
You like.
Oh, yeah.
It's buns.
Oh, that popcorn was great.
Oh, you've been popcorn last night?
Did you have some popcorn?
I'm having popcorn tonight just because of a week of rec.
Damn it.
That sounds great.
Rice.
Oh, wait.
Maybe popcorn for breakfast.
Has some popcorn in here?
Yeah.
Should I have popcorn machine in?
That's not a bad idea.
We should have one here anyway.
way.
We should have one here.
Jack has sleepovers with his friends.
Does everyone buy butter last week?
Who's bringing the butter?
Tuesday?
You haven't sleepovers here?
All right.
Well, tomorrow, yeah.
So, again, programming alert.
Early show time tomorrow, early start time.
Early start.
But again, if you kind of just...
We'll be on that normal time as well.
If you watch on YouTube and you turn...
Oh, they already start.
Just do one of those things.
Just your thumb and all goes right back to the beginning.
Unless you were going to, you know,
PBR that Canada.
Whatever, yeah.
There will be some spoilers, I guess.
If you've got your VHS set to start the 830 start there in 840,
then we're probably going to give away some tidbits, but what's going on?
Timbitt's not a bad idea.
So we're going to just turn the cameras that way and watch the game.
We call that the show.
I like that.
We do a PIN report at the intermission.
Do you want to?
Okay.
Maybe we do a bet at the beginning?
I don't know.
I like that.
Ooh, before it starts.
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
God, he's smart, eh?
All right, let's get out of here.
All this book reading's going.
Sounds like we got it all figured.
All right, Rats hungry, everyone.
We'll see you tomorrow, buddies.
Way long.
We're supposed to.
