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Away we go here on the Wednesday edition of the Barnburner podcast.
It is Boomer.
It's Pinder.
It's the Ruther.
I'm just kind of taking a look here.
Yes, the Rester.
Rester.
Here in the Tower Chrysler Studios, of course, Tower Chrysler, the number one,
Chrysler, Rame Jeep dealer in Southern Alberta as voted by you, the people.
And who are we to argue with you, the people?
Go and see Serge and Nikki and Aaron and all the guys.
over there. They'll set you up.
I've said it before you go in.
It's so nice you might take home to.
I was there yesterday.
Is that right?
You would not believe it. So I went to get retorced nuts,
which was on my list of things to do.
Your nut.
Got to get your nuts retorced.
And I was like, well, I'm here. It's going to take five minutes.
I'm going to pop in and say how to surge.
Not there.
So I'm going to assert.
Oh, geez. Who pops in four minutes later with a box of ice cream
sandals, tossing them around?
like Tom Brady handing out touchdowns
his whole staff, search.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Whoa.
Yeah.
I thought this guy was Mr. No Sugar.
Well, he's,
that's the way,
he makes it more noble, right?
He didn't have one himself.
It was just for his staff.
Dean,
I would love to give him compliments for this,
but I'm not sure I can believe that.
Are you telling me there's a ice cream sandwich
in your face, in your hand.
Box.
A box.
Yes.
You went out and bought a box.
of ice cream sandwiches.
Right.
And you're tossing them around like jelly beans.
Yeah.
And you didn't sample.
Just a little.
He seemed disciplined.
I didn't see one open by him.
He was just handing out.
He was doing handoffs.
Maybe he went to his office and had one.
I did not see him consume one.
If anyone out there listening knows the surge dog,
give him a little, send him a little note.
I didn't sound we need some truth syrup out of him.
Let's watch.
We're watching this whole thing that you got going there.
This facade, this sugar facade, we're not buying it, sir.
There's a conversation I've been wanting to have,
and I feel like summer is probably the time to have it.
Foods or music, entertainment, things in your life
that you at one time thought were for old people,
that you suddenly enjoy,
is it because you're getting old?
And I wonder, is the ice cream sandwich one of those things? As a kid, they're so, and especially
now, there's so many other options, fun, exciting ice cream treats. It feels like the ice cream
sandwich is dull and boring. But God damn, I do like the ice cream sandwich.
I've been bullish on the ice cream sandwich from the dawn of my existence, Dean. It's a banger.
How else do you get ice cream in without a spoon, without a bowl? Fingers are hands or hands
clean afterwards.
It's,
it's,
this is a,
this is a,
miraculous invention of mankind.
So not just for old people.
Correct.
All right.
What about the vanilla soft serve ice cream?
If you're going for ice cream,
do you ever just go with the plain vanilla ice cream?
Always.
That's old man.
I don't enjoy,
I don't enjoy that.
I don't enjoy the chocolate or the swirl.
I don't,
uh,
I love vanilla.
Yeah.
I feel like vanilla grows on you as you age.
Yeah, the closer to your grave, the more you like vanilla.
So wouldn't that be the baseline, though?
Isn't like vanilla where you start and you branch out?
It's called, like, it's why things are vanilla.
It's because it's kind of plain.
Yeah, but that's what kids don't like.
They want max intensity.
They don't want soft ice cream.
There's not a ton.
It's either, if you're doing soft ice cream, it's.
Yeah, but you can add the sprinkles.
I'm fine with that.
And see, but I think that's that you're lying then.
If you're just, that's not a traditional vanilla ice cream.
That's vanilla with sprinkles.
Completely changes the whole thing.
If you go for a milkshake, what's your go-to milkshake?
If I can get, this is my favorite suite of all time.
Really?
The small town, Frontier, Saskatchewan, the rec center in Frontier, Saskatchewan.
They made pizzas.
It was the only place you could get a pizza where I grew up.
Wow.
rum and butter shake
Dean I feel like your energy might be like a little below average
Rhett is more than compensating he is just on fire out of the gate
no I just have questions I just have questions the rum and butter is
without debate the best shake you can have
and most of you losers out there will complain and say I'm wrong
but that's because you never tried the rum and butter and you can get the rum and butter
at the fancy joint
just outside of Fernie near Cooganusa.
There's an ice cream joint right at the turn there
before you head south down to Montana
or head straight through to the Cranbrook area.
Get the rum and butter.
Get some chicken nuggets with the dill dip,
homemade dill dip.
Oh, my God.
Now, Pindor, are you one to opine on soft ice cream?
Because I do remember the time you made it sound as though
only the homeless and peasants would eat soft ice cream.
No.
Your quote was,
I can't imagine going to Dairy Queen for soft ice cream.
It was something like that.
Yeah, and there's context there.
So I love a malt at the Flames game.
Like, that's, if I, if it's in front of me, I'm eating it.
Like, that's soft serve.
Generally speaking, I don't ever really chase it.
And the...
Like peasants and homeless.
No, the DQ in my neighborhood is next to two wicked local joints.
So I just never go to it.
It's probably a function of my proximity.
That's all.
I got to pass better places to get the DQ so I don't go.
So have you ever had a blizzard then?
Yeah, I'm not.
I don't love blizzards.
Derry and me aren't the best of pals.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
Like it's in a room of my day and I'm disduring that.
Yeah, it's not about that.
If it's going to sit me down, I'm just going to pass.
I'll get something else.
Well, look at your discipline.
You had surge.
You've got self-control.
Way to go.
Yeah.
Splend sugar.
Listen to me.
I'm just saying it loud on live radio.
No discipline with booze.
Sugar, discipline.
Yeah.
One of the other things that I feel like has to be
an old man or an old person treat that I now enjoy.
Fruit beer float.
The fruit and nut dairy milk chocolate bar.
Oh, yeah.
That's, you've crossed over into Death Valley.
You're almost getting home.
Someone changing your diaper.
It's not good. It's raisins and chocolate.
and it's gross.
I'm sorry.
Because it has raisins.
Is it?
Raisins are like those
granaries.
It's true.
You're right.
You're ancient.
I know.
They can't do anything else with.
What's wrong with you?
Have a freaking score bar and shut the F up.
No,
I do like score.
That score's good.
In the freezer?
Oh,
Blizzard.
Score Blizzard, dude.
I'll ruin my day for a score blizzard.
Double the score.
What about,
what about the float?
Do we like the floats?
I haven't done one in a while.
I haven't either.
Yeah.
Yeah, but what I'm not asking if you've done one recently.
Oh, I'm thinking like a decade.
Like, sorry, if I say I love them.
It's like, I've got a decade without them.
Jesus.
The Dairy Queen used to have, or it probably still does, I don't know,
orange crush floats.
Oh, wow.
Well, didn't A&Dub have the root beer float?
That was the thing.
Staple.
So you guys are going to destroy me for this, but I didn't know what you would say.
It was, well, I'm just ready to get destroyed.
It's good for the show.
team player, right?
Two years ago, I stumbled across what's called an affigato.
Are you familiar with an aigado?
So it's an Italian special.
The Italians are great with ice cream.
You ever go to Italy?
It's like gelato everywhere.
It is espresso poured over two huge, beautiful scoops of ice cream,
which could be any flavor, really.
But it's, uh, whew, got the hot and the cold.
You can mix it together, whatever consistency you're chasing.
It's all there for you.
Amazing.
Just get coffee.
Ice coffee, yeah.
No, it's ice cream.
I understand.
Yeah.
The Italians are good at, uh, they're good at upcharging you for.
That is expensive.
Vanilla ice cream.
Yeah, this is a shot of espresso.
$18.
$14.23 for you, sir.
Special deal.
Now, if you want one of the best deals going and I almost,
I shudder to share this at your Costco.
The Sundays that they have at the Costco.
It might be the best fucking Sunday you're going to have on the planet.
I swear to God, it's like two or three bucks.
This is the thing, though.
The Sunday is an old man move.
I'm telling you.
I have a chocolate Sunday, please, a pineapple Sunday.
Do we have any of that nut and fruit chocolate left?
Let's.
Gladys!
My grandma's name was Gladys.
Come on over.
I'll take it.
But again, until you've had it,
Because you know what? I'd take you in there and I'd give you one.
You'd be like, oh, what?
Not Pender. He wouldn't eat it.
No, he wouldn't have it.
Wouldn't be allowed to.
I'd get slapped or divorced.
What am I in a third world country?
I'm Ryan Pinder. The Pinders don't eat softs.
The Pinders do.
We go to Italy for Flegilatos.
That's what the Pinders do.
If I'm going to have ice cream, it's going to be an Italian special flown in from Rome.
I'm going to have someone cupping my balls and feeding it to me.
I'm going to be having ice cream.
Is that how we go?
Do you fan me as your spoon feed me, please?
Please.
I was literally.
If you would.
At Costco on Sunday and we're pushing the cart through where they check the receipt.
And I pointed to the right to my lovely roommate, better half, whatever.
The Dean comes here sometimes just to get two hot dogs in a tall fountain pop.
And the face and the noise that came out of her was.
She's not much of a health nut.
that that called her.
She was disgusted with you, Dean.
How dare you?
It's the arrogant.
Poisoning your body.
It's the arrogant Aussie and her.
Later to do that.
Now, in fairness, it has been a while.
That's been quite a while since I've done the two-banger.
Yes, but it was just-
I think you should do it today, Dean.
But there was a time.
Put some pep in your step, boy.
Here's the thing, because the, as much as the dairy gives you the ferns.
The gut rot.
Two-bangers is going to stay with you all day.
That's true.
It's really going to be.
So what?
It's an all-day event.
So next rainy day, you've got to do it.
Yeah.
So.
For at your living, eh?
No surprise, though, really?
Is it really?
No.
I didn't hear, you know what it was?
We talked to Frank about it what yesterday, and then you and we'll talk about that.
You and Frank, right?
It seems awkward.
Westwood.
Yes, 393.
But we kind of said, did we hear another name?
Did you even hear any other rumored candidate as the next GM?
it just sounded like as soon as Trilliving was done and Dubus wasn't coming back,
the two lines, it was a straight line between A and B.
I didn't hear any other name.
It felt like the list of the flames put together and you're like,
well, yeah, Connie's better than all these dopes.
What are you doing?
Like they had Peter Shirelli's name in there.
You're like, no.
Like, are you hammered?
What do you mean you're going to hire Peter Shirelli?
Get the hell out of here.
It's like, do you have the history of trades?
You read that once with Shirelli.
Holy Christ, it's firewood.
Don't even lose that guy's number.
How's his name up?
as a finalist.
I do like these boards that we put together,
the 2023 to now,
the general manager.
Yeah.
It's like today is what that should say.
It's like, yeah, present.
Today.
Today.
But yeah, there it is.
Obviously,
don't need to tell people here
about the resume of Brad for Living.
I was,
and I don't,
we were texting back and forth last week.
And he's one of those guys.
He's,
you know, he plays coy and,
you know,
whatever, whatever,
whatever.
And then it finally comes back around to the, you know, I mean, like, what do you think?
And it's an interesting, I was trying, I was thinking about it today, because as much as we hate it and we bugged Toronto from being center of the universe and all this thing.
It is, it's what other team in the NHL, Montreal, because I don't feel like Detroit or the New York Rangers or their original sixes.
and maybe it's all those other teams have won.
This is the biggest talking market.
It's like the Yankees in baseball or whatever.
Yeah, but the Yankees have won and the Cowboys in the NFL.
The Leafs have not won.
Yet there's still kind of that mecca.
If you win there, it's one of the greatest accomplishments in sport.
It would be.
The market is a big part of the problem.
It's also what makes it so incredible if you could get over that hurdle.
there is no larger hockey market on earth than Toronto.
You got basically three teams in greater New York City, two in L.A.
There's fucking one in Toronto, and there's more hockey fans in Toronto than both those cities combined.
And it's not perfect, right?
It's Toronto and the fans.
It's all everyone's wearing their suit and ties, and it's a late arriving crowd and all of that.
But it just is.
It's the Toronto Maple Leafs.
I don't know.
And I saw, I think it was Dom, Dom from the Athletic, who tweeted this morning.
He's very Toronto, and I'm paraphrasing, that the Leafs would go out and try and fix the one area that probably didn't need fixing.
You could argue maybe the coach or some of the players or defense or goaltending or whatever, but they move on from Dubus and we'll bring in for living.
I don't know.
I think it's it's pressure packed, and I guess it's how much of that you let affect you.
I don't think Brad is a guy who lets a whole lot affect them.
think he's pretty good at insulating himself and he doesn't give a shit but it's a lot the pressure's
there but some of that stuff is unfounded as well you understand that the city wants to win and they
haven't won forever and the objective is always to win wherever you are but it's a bit like going
to an Anaheim back in the day when the flames hadn't won well if you have a whole new effing team
it's not right now this group has lost enough together it's time that they need they
need to start winning.
The level of scrutiny there is just through the roof.
That's what it is.
All your media centers are based in Toronto.
You have the droughts in 67.
Are they not easier on their team, though, than Montreal?
I mean, I think Vancouver's probably the most critical of their GMs.
Montreal is two languages of people yelling at you.
But Toronto, you have the most cameras and scrutiny.
And so if there's a broken pane of glass and training camp, it's on national broadcast.
Like any misstep will be blown up in a microscope where every market hears about it, not just yours.
And I'm not disagreeing with you because I, to a point I do agree.
The thing with Toronto is they've, or with Montreal, is they've been bad for a while.
You have to remember back to when they had a team that fan, that fan base felt like should be a contender and should win.
And then when they don't, they are vicious because it is, that's a religion.
It kind of is there.
It's a big, big deal.
And that's going to have to turn at some point.
but in Toronto they have been they've been good they've had regular season success and the
playoffs have been epic epic yeah if this year can I say can I say this though as well it's not
it is the center of hockey in the states it's not as no but either is the sport though right
yeah I guess but even if you're in a hockey market it's not as sure I guess yeah
There isn't really a hockey market in the States.
Like, name a city where hockey's bigger than basketball, baseball, or Minnesota.
I don't know.
I think Vikings are bigger.
Nothing's bigger than India.
Yeah.
So that's,
okay, so I'm,
you're right.
I'm an idiot.
No,
no,
no,
you're not an idiot at all.
I think you're right.
Like,
the least are so huge that we hear about everything in Canada,
but you're right.
You don't in the States,
but that's because the state's...
My point,
then that's the point I'm making is that it gets jammed down your effing throat as a
Canadian because you can't hide from it.
You cross the border.
You're not...
Leaves.
Like, it's not going to be front.
Everyone in the world in America is not going to know that Trilliving is now the GM of Trump.
Yeah.
Right.
Everyone in Canada.
You can't help but have it.
Someone will slap you in the head to tell you.
It's part of the reason you hated the least playing in Buffalo, though, right?
I can't stand the Leafs.
Yeah.
Tree, I like you.
I'm sorry.
Call you.
Offer you some help.
Just down across the border here.
If you need some help, buddy, I'm here.
now that you can get across the border.
That's all cleared up.
Thank God.
Lawyers are great.
Those charges that they finally
The club lobby.
Did he tell you what he was going to do?
Who was he trading?
Well, I was going to say.
It's your best friend now.
Yeah.
Wow.
Do you, I thought it was interesting.
We kind of laughed and we didn't talk about at the time.
Listening to Seraveli yesterday talked about for Dubus.
well before you rush to Pittsburgh
don't you want to know what's going on in
Ottawa where everyone has
a job in Ottawa but you're like okay
there is an ownership change but just
just the thought that you would prioritize
what's happening in Ottawa
before somewhere else like Pittsburgh
but when you stop and think about it one's clearly
at the end of their run and one
has some very exciting things on the horizon
you think but for
for Trilliving just on the surface
and of course you if you have any sense
of competition or
again, there's 32 jobs.
You want to be a GM.
You want to win.
There'd be no, the celebration,
you'd be so highly regarded if you won there.
Do you look at the team there?
How hard or difficult is the job,
if Triliving goes, to get that team over the hump
based on that roster?
It might be real easy.
You keep everyone together and you believe in them
and you believe in the coach.
you, it's hard to win, but they're that good.
They could, I mean, look at Florida.
Yeah.
Can't win.
They're terrible at start of the year and all of a sudden they're going to the fight.
Like, are you telling me that Toronto's not talented enough?
Now, I don't believe their players have shown enough heart and, and compete in the playoffs at times.
But they are learning every year.
They did better this year than last year.
They're ultra, ultra talented.
I have no clue what their cap space is like.
And if you have a goaltender, they're not a favorite next year.
If the same team, same lineup is put in place for the start of next year,
what are the Vegas odds on?
They're a top five team for a couple of years.
Sure.
And they have been in the last three, four years because they've had really good teams.
What they haven't had is a goalie get hot in the playoffs.
if you swap Bobrovsky for
fucking Sampsonov in round two
like the Leafs are where the Panthers are
I wonder about their defense
They haven't had to solely go unconscious yet
And yeah the defense is weak for sure
You know muzzan turned to dust on them
You've seen a bit of regression from the likes of Riley and Brody
That's why I do this one out and got nine defensemen
Gio's played his way down the depth chart to a point
Where he's probably a 6, 7, 8
Like I agree
But again, considerably better than Florida
in the regular season playing the same sport.
One team got a goalie red hot
and is feeling good. The other couldn't.
They haven't a lot of luck in the postseason.
They've been having 100 points a year
for how many years.
Yeah.
You got a guy like Matthews had scored 60 last year.
Looks like he's going to score 60.
It was a little down last year.
A down year last year and how many did he have?
Yeah.
Right?
And you asked about what are they going to do this summer,
you know, clearly the first two conversations
are your pending UFA,
as much like it would have been here in Calgary for Craig Conner.
Like I got to talk to Hannafin and Lindholm.
Those are my young, soon-to-be free agents.
And it's the same in Toronto with Nealander and Austin Matthews.
Like Austin Matthews is a superstar in this league.
And I think Rett's point about this year being a down year is a good one.
Last year you would have just like blown your mind at the thought of him being a free agent.
It's a down year with a bad risk and he scores 40.
This is a guy that can get 50 in his sleep.
He's going to win more Richard trophies.
That's your, you have to where he's at.
Is he coming back?
What's it going to cost?
And if it's a yes, okay.
But if it's a no, everything's on the table.
What if it's not even a yes or no?
Not ready to commit it.
I don't know.
I like it here, but I don't know.
What if it's,
because that's probably the answer you're going to get.
Goodro.
Goodro.
I was just going to say,
to meet into his experience.
What did he learn from the Godreau thing?
Yeah.
He was a little too comfy with a superstar heading into free agency.
Then I think we would have forecast a year prior.
Sorry, what's tough about that is with the Godroo thing.
you knew Johnny for years.
You kind of knew the guy.
You go in there now.
You got to play catch up.
What is Austin Matthews?
What are his quirks?
And what does he like?
Where does he want?
What don't you like?
What kind of a guy is that you can take other people's word for it?
But when you're the GM and you have to make that call on that player and a franchise player,
it's tough when you don't really know.
The only thought I would have is maybe Winter Living was still in Phoenix.
Austin was around in that, you know, minor hockey system or was he gone?
Maybe you got a relationship, but you're right.
It's a whole lot different than Kyle Dubas coming in and chatting with a guy who apparently
he was very close with for the last near decade.
You have an unbelievable lineup, a ton of assets, and if you want to move Austin Matthews,
the world is coming back the other way, right?
Let's take some serious balls to do it.
but if you want to, what are you getting in return?
I would have a hard time saying it's the right move,
but you could fill out your lineup pretty good
if you trade them and get the right pieces back.
We now get to beat the bring William Nealander home chances.
Of course, his father, Michael was aflame when he was born in Calgary.
So clearly that's you got to, the move is you go,
if you get a job in Toronto,
you used to GM in Calgary, your first calls back to Calgary and you fleece the new GM.
We saw it with Doug Rysborough, that five-for-five swap in the 90s.
One of the worst deals in the NHL history.
Something to look forward to.
Yeah.
Doughermore, Gary Lehman, Barf.
So one thing about Trilliving, he loves making deals.
I don't know, were there a lot of trades made with Dubas?
I got to tell you.
I mean, we're obviously very familiar with Toronto and that, but I don't know what his...
Not his major.
Body of work.
So real quick, I was on with Big Save Nick in Toronto this morning,
talking about your living. Here are the four
drafts last free agent window trades that he made that were massive.
2015, Dougie Hamilton for a first and two seconds. Two years later,
Travis Hamannick and a fourth for a first and two seconds.
2018, three years later, Fox Hamilton, Furland for Lindholm and Hannafin,
Blockbuster, Monster Deal, and that one only overshadowed by last July's move,
Dino with Hubert O, Weiger, a first, Cole Schwint.
I've captivated him. Look at these, he's left his screen.
No, my, and the thing of it is he's getting crushed and how can't you for how great Matthew was looked in Florida and how things went here.
They can still do okay on that deal.
Like, Weiger, if he's a top pair guy and this first rounder, we don't even know where it is in 2025.
And as you've talked about, that's right.
We don't need to bring it back up again.
But it was the extensions that make it difficult for sure with how.
with how the year went. I don't know. I think you have to, like I say, I think it starts with Matthews
and goes from there. If you, and especially after you've gone through what you did with Johnny,
you may have to take a deep breath and make a move that you can't imagine doing. We've talked about
it. How similar to you does it feel Matthews to Ovechkin? I don't know if Ovechkin had a John Tavares
wearing the sea around at that time.
But here was a guy.
Goal score, electrifying hockey player, first overall pick.
I don't know that playoff disappointment was similar
other than the fact that they didn't win.
But then breaks through and wins.
And then everything is forgiven.
You just have to win once.
Yeah.
Ovi's only been through the second round once.
I was going to say that's the thing that you don't hear a lot about is Ovi's a winner.
He won.
Yeah, yeah, they've, that one year, they went through the second round and got through.
They haven't ever since or before.
Well, they might never again.
He's getting old.
He's 37.
Who knows?
They want a cup.
Everything is worth it.
That's what I said yesterday to Frank when I had to shut him up because he was yapping.
I think both things were true.
It is an awful deal.
And yes, if he gets you a cup, you're okay with 70 million over seven years.
Sorry, Dean, where were you?
You had something.
I was just, it's going to be interesting to just see him in that, in that environment, right?
Because you get to know the guy and you see him here and it's Calgary and it's small market and,
whatever, the flames are, you know, from a league standpoint, oh, whatever, what are the flames doing to this month?
That's got that sort of thing.
And now we're going to see more of him in Toronto than we did when he was here.
Yeah.
And to be fair, I felt like he was a pretty steely presence for almost his entire nine years.
steady hand.
The only time he kind of looked like
the job was getting to him was
right on the tail end of the Bill Peter stuff
that came out of the left field for him, which
some people are trying to pin on, oh, you should ask, like,
what question you asking a job interview about
something that happened in an H.L dressing room 10 years ago,
which was not okay, but like, I'm sorry.
Grad didn't not turn over a stone.
He did whatever GM does ever.
He found a coach to your wife and hired him.
He did a great job in Calgary, whatever.
The fact that Codroll left
and Chuck said I'm going to leave
and the Bennett
didn't turn out really and Monaghan got
hurt your whole world is different
than the plan he had put together and then you got
a coach that you
maybe
I don't even I don't want to speculate
but probably didn't get along with
and you walked away from it
and if he hadn't chosen to walk away with
it was his decision
he was so good for nine years in Calgary
he could still be there if he
shows. Yeah. Here's a list of bad luck I wrote down for today that True Living had. So Monaghan's
body. Like we don't see many 27-year-olds just fall apart, even younger potentially with Monaghan.
Like that was wild. That's bad luck, right? We get that. He drafts Adam Fox in the third round.
What an incredible pick. Two Norris trophies in his first three years in the league, like,
Nutso stuff. Norris in his first two years, Norris finalist every year now. He doesn't want
to sign here. That's some bad luck. You know, Sam Bennett,
I think embraced a different role when he left Calgary.
It didn't seem like it was going to work here.
He was a consensus number one pick in central scouting slides to him that four.
There's a bit of bad fortune there.
You know, they had a deal with Johnny Goddrault.
If you get to this number, I'm signing.
They get to the number he changes mine.
There's a sliver of bad luck there as well.
The Bill Peters think bad luck.
And I don't know that if Brad has free reign on all things hockey that
Darrell arrives, nor is extended.
That felt like more of a Murray relationship.
That's those are all things that were.
kind out of his control in a way.
And COVID.
COVID too. Fuck that.
Yeah.
I mean, we all had to deal with it, but
another thing that it was like, what?
You know, that, I think that
played into Goddrow's decision.
So all this shit.
That's, that's, and it happens
lots, I think. Injuries and stuff
happen to teams and you lose guys and
you don't foresee it playing out the way
it does, but
he did a hell of a job.
like you look back in the history of there are lots of misses the neal thing and brower
brower thing probably or some things that he didn't want but for the most part how many would we
i didn't like those signings i'm not convinced i'll wait till december to decide on this year
on whether huberto and cadre are going to be good or not but i don't i didn't like the
the walking geo to free agency
where you knew he was going to leave
to an expansion team like 100% new
and you weren't making the playoffs
and you could have traded him for
something. But what are the big misses?
That's them. It's Neil Browardt and
probably this Euberto extension with all that signing bonus.
Those are probably the four biggest blunders.
The flip side would be deals that we'll never know
that would have been on the table to do that he didn't do.
Totally.
Whether they're good or both would have been in kiboshed
if they don't get greenlit, right?
Yeah, I mean, I'm pulling stuff out of, you know, the yinger.
But could you have had Jack Eichol,
if you include Matthew Kuchak in that deal.
Seems like that was probably...
Mark Stone was a guy they were on for a bit as well.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
And like you say, there's salary cap, ownership,
no movement clauses, no trade clauses, all that stuff.
in there as well so it's never as easy as that but you wonder if there were some deals along the way
certainly with monahan but i don't know if you could have projected him falling off the table quite like
that but you would have had some you would have you would have gotten something for for monahan but yeah
whatever i mean i guess the now the question i have for you and i'll start with you red does uh does this
now either make you a start to hate your living or b start to like the leap
Oh, dear.
Maybe neither.
That's a hard one.
Geez.
Yeah.
I don't hate Tree.
I'm going to have a hard time cheering for the Leafs.
But they do a good, even if I cheer, they do a good enough job of effing things up.
So maybe I should just cheer and be happy when they lose.
Yeah.
Because I think they always want people that you like to do well.
But in this case, for him to do well, you need those Leafs to do well.
It's a pickle.
Yeah, I can't cheer for the leaves.
I'm sorry, Tree.
I'm out.
Unless you give me a job, like, with the lungs.
How many, you really?
Hey, go.
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I live here and drive back forth.
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Now, we talked about it a little bit yesterday.
Andrew Burnett is going to be the new coach,
is the new coach of the Nashville Predators.
And I said to Frank, I didn't, when I saw all this coming up,
I don't know, Nashville had moved on.
Oh, wait a minute, they hadn't.
So it seems like John Hines woke up yesterday,
got told he was out.
Yeah.
And here's that Andrew Burnett is coming in.
We could talk about Brunette in a moment.
but is that did he get did the hinds get done dirty there or is that just the nature of the business that you're in the coaching business it can happen like that i'd say that's the nature of the business if you got a GM that wants a different coach
you don't have a lot of saying it you miss the playoffs i don't know it's because remember florida got torn apart for how they handled gerard gallant and his
but they finished in first
No, he's saying Galant.
Oh, sorry.
10 years ago.
I just want, because Barry Trots, very highly respected, everybody loves Barry, right?
And this is, I don't know.
But why are we critical of him firing a coach and hiring a new guy?
What that happens all the time?
It's just a process.
You just, it felt like the news had leaked about them hiring Burnett before Heinz had been fired.
That was unfortunate.
That's like the Trots leaked it?
I highly doubt that.
No, but he was clearly interviewed.
people while Heinz are still under contract.
That's an awkward spot to Frank's point yesterday.
It's awkward that we know about it, but let's be
real humans with eyes open and the
fucking brain in our head.
Happens like every time.
Jesus.
Come on.
I'm with you.
And it was clear that somebody was hiring Brunette.
We talked about it yesterday.
Someone was going to hire. He was going to come to Calgary.
He was doing all these interviews. Someone was going to hire.
him. And if you feel like that is your guy, then wouldn't you hate if, oh, well, we'll just wait
and we'll, you know, we'll talk to John and we'll bring John in and have a meeting or when can
we get John on a Zoom? And then all of a sudden, Brunette goes somewhere, loves the city, loves
the team, comes back and I've taken another job.
It's not, as they said in Jerry Maguire, it's not show friends. It's show business.
And that was business.
This is a good tweet this morning from regarding this whole situation.
Trots, when asked about Andrew Burnett, said,
we want someone to become more of an offensive team.
We want to become more of an offensive team.
And Andrew specializes on that side of the ice, yada, yada, yada, offense, offense.
And the quote was, man, Barry Trots is lucky.
Barry Trots was in the GM when Barry Trots was coaching.
A, the way he treated the coach.
And B, the type of coach he's looking for was not what Barry was.
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's the league's changed. Like Darrell said it. You don't try to protect one goal lead. You got to score the next one. Did you have any hopes that he was going to be the guy here? God, no. What's the track record for this organization hiring hiring coaches when there's someone on pay? I don't care about the track record. That's why I didn't have any hope for it. It's the history. Like, if you watch out organizations move, you're better at predicting how they're going to move in the future. They never go out and pay top of market for coaching when,
someone's on payroll.
The parent, Darrell, four million bucks the next two years to not be here.
It's going to be someone making not a lot of money here, if I have to guess.
Burnett had what, four or five teams interested?
He's going to get some good dollars.
Well, I don't think he'd be top of market.
For this summer, I bet she is.
Who's going to make?
Yes, but he's not going to be a top five paid coach in the NHL.
Yeah.
So I think he's probably around the range of what, you know, close to the Darrell neighborhood.
He'll be, yeah, I would say middle of the pack.
I think he will be paid in the...
Where do you think middle of the pack is?
I'll see what we got for public salaries.
Well, I just, I don't think he's going to be in the top 10
and I don't think he'll be the least paid guy.
But he's also a first time full.
He was interim head coach.
This is a, he's a first time coach.
I don't know.
I kind of did.
I was intrigued by it.
I move past the,
what have the flames done in the,
in the past, just what's the fit?
If the guy would come,
I don't see him,
it's not like you're bringing in Mike Babcock
or Joel Quinville.
To me, that's top of the market paid guys.
I just wondered between who he is as a guy
from what we've been told,
his experience with Huberdough,
he seemed like a guy,
much the same age and ilk in a way of Conroy,
that this could be.
be a guy. So I was I was
cautiously
kind of hoping that maybe he'd be a guy
here, but not surprised
that he was somewhere else, obviously.
Pete DeBore,
Paul Maurice, and
Bruce Cassidy all got
paid last summer and they all came in between
high threes and mid-fours.
That's probably where Burnett ends up.
And I don't think the flames are going to spend that on the coach.
But to your point, I was very, very fascinated by the fit here.
I just didn't think financially it was going to happen.
Well, even if it was.
financially. Where the F are you going to go? Nashville or Calgary.
Yeah, or New York or all these other places that are after. Yeah, totally.
You got to be the most appetizing. And he's a former predator, which helps a bit.
And I was a press on Nashville. They had a lot of major injuries and they showed some
mustard down the stretch this year. It wasn't like that's an underachieving bunch of
bums. They were really dinged up. A lot of different mustard out there. Dejohn must.
I love Deshawn. Do you like the seeds?
Oh, no. I mean, I'll do it. I just.
just prefer the classic honey honey mustard so love tichon that oh
but it's just spicy shit crap work i love it i love the spice dude yes you do like spice
like you put spice on everything you got hot thoughts yeah good like five hot sauce i get some hot thoughts
let's go what's that your nose and your eyes start running and it's like i got to go
i actually don't know how i think something's wrong with my
charging court
I've decided
because it's been
plugged in
and then it just
it uh
clunked
clunked out
glitched it
and shut off
so why
why can't you use the microphone
yeah
I'm not going to this setup then
so what's the
because what what has changed
I'm just wondering why the headset
oh I never thought of it
because you could probably still use your microphone.
He's new at this whole broadcasting thing,
I didn't know if it was the same thing yet.
Don't shush me.
This part.
I didn't know if it was the same, but it is.
It's a C, yeah.
USB.
Can you hear me?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You sound great, bud.
That's way better.
I never even thought of it.
That's why I wasn't,
I didn't even think that it was the,
it's that little circle.
It's a USBC.
That's right.
It's,
so either my computer is
crapped out or the shoveler put a
no swearing.
Oh,
maybe.
No swearing content.
So did you change your laptop?
Is that what you did?
No,
I didn't change it.
This is quite something.
So what happened?
What did you change?
when you were on my laptop was crashed okay so the laptop yeah yeah so the but the laptop has been
it's it's it's i think the battery died but it's been plugged in so i wondered if the battery is
done right won't hold the charge so you need a new uh laptop business expense right yeah you got
get those up red.
Not a money you're making.
Jesus.
Pinder needs one.
Actually,
I'm going to send it into the nation and see if they'll.
Yeah,
see if they'll do it.
It's once or twice a week.
Pindor will mutter.
Oh,
God,
this laptop.
Oh,
my God.
She's,
like,
like I'm just going to refresh this website
and the whole thing's like,
like,
like 20 minutes.
It goes back to the mid.
You have you lifting here.
I'm literally pressing.
Go back to a mid-90s model.
Dial up.
So,
you know what?
We'll move on.
I want.
I want to look at the Pinda report.
Let's move on.
Just the last, there's, so the coaching can't vacancies,
they're starting to kind of get whittled down here.
You've got Calgary, because as we sit here,
I don't believe they've hired anybody yet.
The Columbus Blajackets, the Anaheim Ducks and the New York Rangers,
Peter Labulet, just sure seems like he's circling around that.
The shark circling the waters.
It feels like a fit there, right?
Like a market, more experienced guy, veteran team.
I don't know.
I'm still surprised that they,
that they, and again, it's Drury.
I don't, seems like a different cat,
but that they moved on from Galant.
From Gerard Gallant there in New York.
Frank had some pointed comments on Galant in the wake of that.
He also had some things that he said about jury that were interesting.
Yeah.
But I don't know that we need to go very far to illustrate that if the GM and coach aren't on the same page, there could be changes.
What was weird about what he said about Galand, I don't want to put word because it's the internet and it'll get.
Here, obviously, the GM and the coach had a thing, but so too did the room and the coach.
But we're led to believe that players love Galant.
It's management that can't get along with Galant.
Yeah.
Frank had characterized him as sort of difficult to work with and sort of not really.
collaborative, which
I don't know
fits with Darrell too in a way.
Yeah.
But if the room likes them.
Yeah.
And if you have success,
I just wonder,
do you try and work things out
or do you gun the coach
when you seem to have a fit there?
I don't know.
Yeah.
And I think the magnitude
of losing the Jersey in round one
when you're up to,
oh, probably a little more lost
outside of that market.
To be with that star-studded team up
2-0 and then go out like there would be some sour sour wasn't it after one of their games
there was a shouting match between the two like tension high there that was a team that was supposed
to make a deep run and they blew a two-o lead against the first time shouting match between who was
a jury in glant was that not it oh yeah i never heard that but if that's the case then i'm not
surprised at all that he was asked to leave good job pender it's good to sometimes you're
You just say things that are completely false and causes her.
Yeah, may or may not be true, but.
But please use the clip.
Brought the conversation to a close.
Please put a bow on it.
I like that.
Let's do the Pinder report.
Speaking of Pender,
let's see what he does here with the Pinder report,
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I would say, if you're up there,
check out the newly designed pilot.
Yes.
We were up there the one day.
The pilot is new.
And it's,
if you know,
if you,
in your mind,
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oh,
that's the Honda pilot.
You need to see the new pilot
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uh,
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Thumbs up for the,
for the pilot.
Boom or birth.
Report for Village Honda,
shall we?
Guys, we start where we've just been.
Brad Trulliving in Toronto, it started as, well, he's going to be the favorite.
And while he fits the bill of what they're looking for it, well, it's going to be his job to lose to all signs point to the hiring.
And then, yes, it'll be made official tomorrow with a press conference as, yeah, the Flames GM of the last nine seasons will be unveiled in Toronto as their 18th general manager.
Only Toledo.
That's a big market.
That's a lot of pressure.
and I guess all those people trying to spin it that Brad needs some rest,
they were fabricating things like I was just moments ago.
Yeah.
So tired.
So tired.
So tired.
Please let me interview for these jobs.
No, no, you're tired.
You can't interview.
Okay, fine.
We're getting some heat.
You can interview now.
He's not going to be allowed to participate in their draft,
but they traded their first.
A big of a deal that is at this juncture.
This is a win now veteran corps, not a,
we got some high picks.
we can't miss on these type situation for Trilliving.
Here's a great comment from Sammy Hughes
who used to work here in Calgary.
Brad Trillivings' dad was the only person
in the famous Kauai photo
that seemed completely unbothered by the whole thing.
The family is ready for Toronto level pressure.
And circled on the left is his father, Jim,
of Boston Pizza and Dragon's Den fame.
Generally I'm impressed with the three-point shot
that sent the Raptors through in their miraculous.
NBA championship run.
I believe Jim is doing a,
again, could be completely fabricating this,
but I believe he is doing a
sunrise wake-up
fundraisers type of deal.
Sunrise wake-up, what is that in the tale?
I don't know.
I'm not joking.
You're going to have to research this year.
Okay, I'm just...
Or you know more about it when you bring it up.
Come back to me with what you've learned.
I didn't know if you guys were...
living.
Oh, because we send out emails that we're going to talk about Jim Trilliving today.
I should have done some research.
I'm, it was a coincidence.
You guys may not know this, but Jim Trillivik is doing a Hoobie what's he.
What's that?
What's that?
Well, why don't you guys go and fucking figure out?
I'm hanging up.
I'll be back.
I'm going to go research it.
What a dick.
He was trying to help, but then he's like, nah, I really just.
And you know what?
He is so technologically stupid.
He's a Luddite, Dean.
That's what's wrong.
Because his signal was going in and out.
I don't think that's because your laptop doesn't have power.
No.
It's either on or it's off.
That's right.
So then he goes to a different laptop and then he changes.
And he has to swap out the microphone.
Why?
God Almighty.
If you're listening to this program, we apologize.
It's been quite interesting to watch Red on this day.
A sunrise wake-up thing.
Oh, what's that?
What are you researching?
Okay, so while he's not here, what the fuck is he talking about?
I don't know.
That's why I asked.
He was offended that I asked.
Is it a walk and run?
Is it a, like, is he going swimming?
Is it a marathon?
Are you raising money for the homeless?
Are you camping?
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
I don't know.
I don't either.
You know what I do know.
I can't get enough of the smelling salt.
Remember when we just started this show, I believe back in October,
we bleeped around while we were filming and did some smelling salt shit?
Alex Barkov, hey, Rhett, how are you?
Okay, I'll pass this along to Jack.
Jack will have this momentarily because you've done your homework.
Okay.
We'll have this for everybody.
Thank you, Rhett.
Sunrise, wake up.
So what? Jack will let me know when he's got it ready.
Yes, sir.
For now, let's enjoy.
Alex Barkoff, something I've never seen
with smelling salts, Red.
Take a close view here.
You smell it, that's not new.
Oh, in front of the eyes.
Jeez.
Oh.
You know what, Dean?
Is that what you used to do?
Is that why you got the shades on?
I'm all buggered up, yeah.
You got to text them and say,
dude, don't do that.
I used to do that.
I feel like your eyes water enough
if you take a big enough sniff of that crap.
100%.
Try it, Fender.
I didn't. I thought I got punched.
I'll do the eye thing and see what happens.
Yeah. No.
Try it. It's right there. It's right behind you there.
When Dean comes in studio, we can both do it.
I'm not, some dude in his basement's not telling you what to do.
It's right behind you. Let's move along.
It's the Pinder Report. Do it.
Pinned.
It is and Brewers in action yesterday.
We could show you highlights of the game, but who cares?
This is better.
Vladie, third hit of the day.
Fong, Rowdy Tillaz, red, and junk.
Cup check.
Farmer blue jay
Lesby came a little
I love baseball
I love baseball
good stuff right there
yeah
yeah
you do that in hockey
and you're going to get
cross-checked in the chicklets
yeah
and chastised by everybody
oh oh
oh oh
I can't believe you do that
to a partner of players
safety is going to have to
the players in the league
doesn't it
sirs
now the
uh
the common ground
that hockey and baseball share
is the Detroit Tigers
dug out. This is from a while ago, but
just popped up in conversation today. I thought we'd show you.
We showed you the Homer hose.
Well, the Tigers have an answer to that
and it's an ode to the Red Wings.
Maybe it's called the Hockey Town Homer.
What do you think, Shep?
It's on the hell, but they've got the hockey.
It's terrible.
It's just terrible.
A little net and a little ball and good work.
Home run and a goal.
That is lame.
thumbs down from Rhett.
Dean can't be bothered to have an opinion.
Sounds like one of these.
Sounds like I'm doing my pinder.
Well, how big is the net?
Is it a regulation size net?
I mean, how am I supposed to have an opinion on that?
It looked like he was shooting with the right-handed stick and he was left-hand.
I don't know if I can have an opinion.
I'm fair with fun.
Fun's good.
That seems fun.
It probably gets old quick.
I don't know.
Then put that salt stuff in your eyes and let's go.
I need the water for it.
It's right behind.
No, it was awful.
I hated that.
Hey, guys, how's Tampa Bay Bucks training camp going without Tom Brady?
Jack submitted this to the Pender Report.
Look at the prowess from the quarterback play here.
That's not fucking tough.
Nope.
Jeez, okay.
So we got what, Baker Mayfield and who else is there?
Kyle Tarasco.
I don't know Kyle Tarasco.
Hey, it's early.
It's May, guys.
That's where they were warming up there.
Oh, fuck me.
A duck competition here between Trask and Mayfield.
No good.
Oh, boy.
Oh, boy.
They do know the routes, correct?
They seem to be, I mean, running the right spot, I guess.
A little bit of a downgrade from the greatest football player of all time.
Listen, there's a couple Warner kids here in Buffalo that have been playing some flag.
They're getting some snaps.
If you need them, we'll send them now.
you're ready to move to Florida.
I can, I hear it every month.
Oh, you're closer.
Inching, inching my way.
Scouting the whales.
Although someone sent me a link to Costa Rica last night.
And the shovelers shut me down when we try to do that during COVID.
Well, it's right next to Panama where you can get that shit shut in your shoulders that they won't.
I know.
What was it you trying to do that she shut you down?
Yeah.
Costa Rica.
It's a new move.
Everybody should try.
It's very difficult.
I do you agree of difficulty?
You got to get very good balance.
You got to get permission first.
You need core strength and balance.
I'm surprised with your shoulders right.
You could pull off a Costa Rica.
The Costa Rica, hey?
Ben.
Ghost, the Costa Rica.
I hurt my neck last time.
We tried that.
Yeah.
I got down to Akko Field yesterday as Calvary FC's got three monster home games.
coming up in the month of June.
We chatted with Jose Escalante about
FOSOMOND
This weekend those jerks from Ford
You better get
Jose. He did this sucks
It's Jose Escalante of Cavalry FC
Man, this is the premier rivalry
Of the Canadian Premier League coming up this weekend
Tell me about Forge and Cavalry
Yeah, there's a big game for us
I think for the fans, so they can feel that during the week
Before the game and it's a good game always
So something happened
And right from year one, right from year one, it was always contentious.
Yeah, from day one, yeah.
I like to compete, right?
I like to win.
I like to compete against good players, good teams.
So that's why every game I'm against good players.
I want to win.
I want to compete.
I want to help my teammates.
Take any advantage I can.
Sure.
It's a very emotional game.
We know that.
And I try to go inside the head of some players.
I can affect those emotions and I can help my team.
I believe the top two winning is clubs in the history of league.
So it should be a fun one this weekend.
All the best. Thanks for time.
We're here at Escalante.
Yes, Jr.
Cut your effing hair.
Yeah, sure.
What hair?
That massive
Astrosity atop your head
must be removed.
Astrosity?
Atrocity.
Astrophic, well, it's,
it's astrology,
because it's so big like a,
yeah.
Did you have ESPN with you?
Like a multi-cam shoot?
Like, what the hell?
were you doing yesterday.
Hey, just, you know, getting the word out to the people.
Big rivalry game this weekend.
Saturday, too, I believe.
What's weather it looked like?
Looking good.
Did Jack help you with that?
There's lots of people helping, Dean.
Amazing what can happen when you leave your home.
Yeah, you got to be careful, though, because it's hot out, Dean.
So would you do leave your home?
Keep your glasses on.
Some of that zinc down the front of the schnauz there.
You'll be all right.
I have phenomenal news.
Do you remember when we on Barnburner broke the news that they were sending the world's fastest cow out to pasture this year,
stampeters?
A lot of injury issues.
The cow had lost its jump.
Bissanet just embarrassed the crap out of him when he could pass him through town.
She cheated a little bit, but yeah.
A big time cheat.
But, you know, Bissanet, you got to expect at least 10 yards of that.
Here's an interesting development from the stampeters on social yet.
That's right.
We got new cows.
It's cow tryouts.
Let's fucking go.
This is the best thing the CFL has ever done
And it's a Stan Peterson
Yes, I know, I know
And so there they are
Three different cow outfits, three different cows
June 8
Yeah, I'll tell you what, Dickinson
And Huffnegall
There's no one better
You can rest assured
That they have scoured the racing cow
World
Yeah, they got contacts all over
Unbelievable candidates there
Some cow just got cut down in Louisiana
From some racing thing, they're all over it
Get them up here
get him in the silks let's go he's a stamp i feel again i feel for the old cow because he's going to be sitting there
i hate old cows delicious
so uh that's exciting news there for it is eaters finally ret uh i guess they're borrowing a dog in buffalo
or it's a neighbor's dog you know red crafty he's a great communicator look what he taught this dog
to do it almost went perfectly dean as uh no warner it's got these
How's cute.
Hey, wash your hair.
Look at the dog,
Dito!
This is great.
Uh-oh.
Boob's dog can't do that.
Oh, no, no.
Walk us through this.
Look closely now, Dean.
What are we seeing?
Well, the dog is holding the hose with the...
Oh, no.
I have a one.
Spraying the water out of the hose as the man is rinsing the shampoo from his hair.
But then all of a sudden, the water stops coming out of the hose,
and it appears as though...
Is that a dog?
Peeing.
That's birdie.
On dude's head.
Birdie.
No, bird.
That's your pinned report on a whatever the fuck day it is today.
Bird dog.
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A couple other things.
Now, Jack, putting you on the spot because, you know, here we.
Yeah, I got it.
Okay, so let's, now, Brad for Living, expected to be announced as the new Toronto Maple Leaf general manager tomorrow.
His father is Jim, Boston Pizza, who is, you know, Boston Pizza, among other things.
Boss and Pete's Mr. Lou.
He's a great human.
Don't worry about it.
Great guy.
He and his wife do unbelievable amounts of things for charitable endeavors.
And you said, Rhett, that Jim was doing a wake-up sunrise thing.
Sunrise, wake-up, sun-rise.
And then I got criticized.
No, we asked what you were talking about.
So there it is.
His tweet, live from Vancouver,
another wonderful morning to rise and think about mental health
and how we can make the world a better place together.
He looks to be on a boat, a skiff of some sort,
and is enjoying a cup of Joe.
Yeah.
Good views out there.
So there you go.
What's the thing say?
C-A-M-H
Sunrise Challenge, which is
Canadian Association for Mental Health or something along those lines.
Sunrise Challenge, there you go.
Thank you, Rhett.
That is what we were asking for.
What is the Sunrise Wake Up,
which is actually the Sunrise Challenge, yeah.
So in mental health,
It's, I think, kind of what we were.
So that's great.
Never doubted that the cause would be a good thing.
It just wondered what the cause was.
You losers should try it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So is he recorded a video?
What do you say, rat, or is it just you raise a cup of coffee?
I didn't.
I had to quickly, because I'd get back to you guys, because the show would fail or crash.
And, yeah.
So I was critiqued.
I provided what was needed.
And I've done my job once again.
Hit Dingers.
hitting dingers
why are we waiting on the Stanley Cup to start until
Saturday?
Because next Saturday I want to take
my middle guy to Florida and if they
start like today then it wouldn't be
next Saturday and it wouldn't be able to go
like there's all kinds of reasons.
Well if you take them next Saturday.
We had to get the 96 final team
together to go down and support
the 2020
team. Is that happening?
No, it's not.
No, get it going. Come on now.
Although, I can't
My kid played against a law,
lost kid,
LAUS,
Paul Loas,
wow,
in Nashville.
And I was like,
is that possibly Paul Lose's kid?
Went over as the coach.
Uh,
yeah.
And Paul is in the building.
Come on.
Walked back to my bench.
This guy thought I was coming over to challenge him to a fight.
Walk back to my bench.
I'm like,
oh my God,
this is some,
I haven't seen Paul for,
20 years or more.
Look over and the guy's like,
no, I was wrong.
Shut of my.
You're so excited to see an old
teammate.
Tough.
I was going to say he was underrated
tough.
Oh, 36 fights.
I think my first year, like,
against all the heavies.
Oh, big boys.
Yeah.
And could play.
That was the thing.
Got a bad player.
Wasn't one of those guys.
It was just,
clearly there to fight you could play and then all of a sudden beat the wheels off you if you
if you wanted to so um and liked it oh yeah that's the other thing right guys it's just really enjoy it
you want to go oh yeah i do actually that'd be great lindy rough and the coat and he was hands were
so mushed up they were like i was his partner that year and they're like do not let him
fight. I'm like, so I'm
now I'm fighting these guys.
Like, oh great.
Because he wasn't saying no.
So then you have to go charging in.
It was Rick Tocke and Odgers,
maybe even
Baumgartner on a line in Boston.
And he's going after these guys.
I'm like,
Lodge you're throwing me to the wolves here,
man. It's got to get smoked.
I think it's
Jeff Rogers birthday today.
Happy birthday, Ojys.
It may not,
Farming and down near Porcupine there?
Where's he from?
Southern Saskatchewan.
No, where is he from?
Southern Saskatchewan.
All those tough galutes are from out there.
Jeff Fodgers, May 31st, 1969, Spy Hill, Saskatchewan.
There you go.
But isn't Spy Hill near Porcupine?
Or Spy Hill?
Dean's pointing at himself if you're listening on the podcast.
He said Spy Hill and he's,
very proud. He loves Jeff
Fodgers because he one-punched me and knocked
me out. It's true.
Ouch.
Fucking love.
Where's he these days?
Frank had to get to Buffalo.
Toots sweet. St. Eugene,
golf resort and casino. Did not, now, again,
not to speak, I saw
in the old textoruni
there today. Have we got a date?
We also in our annual motion.
Yeah. I'm excited.
Eugene.ca.
I'm a quick championship golf course casino spa you know I'll hang at the casino and the spa yeah
you guys go uh you know play 17 or 14 or however ready you want to play and then I'll catch up
we'll have some grub after deals yeah yeah you just uh 19th hole baby I like that
I chose cold beers oh mountains in every direction oh I love the smell of the spa you know
oh so good
Everything smells good out there.
Air.
Yeah.
Air is so good.
I love air.
That's what most people think of when they go out to the mountains is the smell of the spa.
To get inside and go sit in the spa.
I can't wait to smell that Chris Mountain Spa.
Isn't it?
This is lovely.
Isn't it beautiful?
Yeah.
Where's my robe?
I'll see you guys later.
I'll be six hours.
I love golf.
Are there slippers as well?
Okay, good.
It's time to rediscover or discover for the,
very first time the St. Eugene Golf Resort and Casino. St. Eugene.uade, there's the phone number.
Book yourself in. It wouldn't be, listen, it wouldn't be crazy if you went there and you didn't
golf. You're going to go to the hotel. Going to maybe do some hiking. Going to go and enjoy the
outdoors. Maybe you do the spa and the casino and all of that. Maybe you go with somebody and they
golf and you don't golf. They don't make the rules. You're allowed to do whatever it is. That's the
that's why it's great to be Canadian
you can do whatever you want
St. Eugene, golf, resort, and casino.
It's coming quick, Dean.
Be ready, be ready.
Yeah, it's got a lot going on all of a sudden.
Oh, yeah, the calendar's filling up.
Busy June.
Really busy June.
If you look towards the end there, Dino.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I'm aware.
Good.
two things today for McLeod law.
Two.
Both of them with our boy.
Really?
One, better than the other.
Yeah.
Two things.
McLeod Law.
You know Peter Klein, McLeod Law is the personal injury guy.
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They are great people.
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mcloud dash law.com little llp in there as well you go if you have all uh law la la la la la so let's start
on this date may 31st retro it's one hurt well i mean again there's two here may 31st
nineteen ninety nine oh did i send the other i can't remember jack i may not have sent the one
pick that I wanted to look at that there's who's that tell us about what we see there buddy's a young
michael pecker i don't know who the other man is that good now you know coli campbell colic
campbell that's coldly campbell yeah that's gregory campbell's dad that is mike peck who do you hate who
do you hate retro what team Toronto the sabers may 31st 1999 beat toronto four to two in toronto
Game 5 of the Wales Conference Championship to advance to the Stanley Cup final.
What do you remember about that day?
I remember we scored a goal in the third.
It was 1-1.
We scored a goal and they called it off.
Me being the emotional leader that I am, stood up and said,
Don't effing worry about it, boys.
We got another one coming.
And shortly thereafter we scored to take the lead.
And then I think maybe, I don't know if it was Dixon Ward or someone scored.
or someone scored into an empty net.
And I remember standing at the blue line
and Dom running out to me
and giving me a big hug.
And then Uncle Stu was there with his daughter.
Stu was at the game.
And Doug was at the game.
They came into the dressing room after.
Part day.
Nothing.
I don't know if there's a better feeling than that.
As far as, you know,
I lost three Stanley cups.
So the semi-finals wins, it was real fun to be Toronto in Toronto.
Can you give us an Uncle Stu laugh in honor of that great event?
Yeah, it's very good.
Yeah, it is very good.
Yeah, four to two in a game five.
Wow, I've got the numbers wrong, but it must have been two-two when we scored and had it called back.
I think Rasmussen or something.
Anyway.
Disappointed, right?
He was.
Ra, rah, Rasmus.
Rasmuson.
You know, Monster World
Juniors one year.
You're like,
holy shit.
He could fly.
He was huge.
He could skate and shoot.
That's where it.
Yeah,
love to fish.
Big bass fisherman.
Yeah.
Think about that series retro is the Leafs.
Their fans,
they knew it was,
it was over a couple games into that series.
Obviously,
it's over in five.
We smoked them game one and then we beat them back in Buffalo twice.
It was,
they were done they weren't that good almost like the Leafs this year right they get the
when they won around one then you get to round two so ooh I don't think you guys are gonna
nope you're not gonna do it the problem with the Leafs that year is they got cocky
I've said it before soon as they didn't see how they they they were cocky to begin with
because it was us the Sabres they were playing and then Hasch wasn't playing it was like
they were already there was a tap-in yeah and you guys
obviously advanced. You didn't, it was what, Colorado or Dallas in the West?
That year? Yes. You didn't know who you were going to face yet, right? I didn't want to
play Colorado because they had bad memories of that squad. That's right. Florida.
So that was 1999 on this date. Fast forward, I don't know,
2015, 17, some, a number of years later. Hmm. To 2004.
on this date a couple days earlier we showed you game three first game back in calgary first
stanley cup final game in calgary got to do two nineteen eighty nine let's stop right there d um
you've never done two before three nothing what win in game three right dominant win handy
physical you said this is the one that screwed us this was a tough one retro kipper allows
one goal oh in game four brad richard richard
his seventh game-winning goal of the playoff.
Assisted by Rhett Warner.
One nothing final.
And we have a shot here.
I passed him that poker.
Did you?
Was it on the tape?
Five on three.
Oh, dear.
How did you end up five on three?
Did I block out when you described that or not?
I don't know because the refs are assholes.
Yeah, yeah, I just didn't know that.
Which penalty is?
I'll go find it.
You don't need to, Ryan.
I have,
we should have just stopped.
Yeah,
we probably could have stopped.
But yeah,
one nothing.
You guys had leads in that series,
eh?
It's fine.
Yeah,
I'm not even going to say it.
Oh,
you probably should,
though.
If we weren't injured,
we would have rolled through Tampa Bay.
You guys had played a ton of hockey.
They had not.
Your depth on defense had been
destroyed guys red orner playing 23 nights is not sorry that's not championship caliber d daddy gocha
out in the vancouver series right yes lidman was concussed and hurt all the time goche was hurt
reggear had a broken leg donovan was out lombo was out macamond was out like i'm sorry we had so many
injuries. Whatever.
And then of course,
Dion.
He could have played.
Dion could have played. It would have been real good.
He would have put the fear of God in some of those guys.
The hits he laid out his first two years in the NHL were unbelievable.
It's tapered off a bit, but he was the most feared hitter in the game almost
immediately after entering the league.
And while in the best, some people would critique him for it,
but he was so confident
stepping into Stanley Cup final.
Yeah, well, let's do it.
Lights were not too bright for Dion.
And he would have played before that.
He would have played before that because we'd have used it.
If he'd have signed, it wasn't, I mean, I always refer to the final because it was out.
We absolutely needed him.
What the, where they think.
Well, Carol, but here's the thing.
What the F were you thinking?
I would, do we know the full story?
Nope.
I don't have a clue about any of the story.
As soon as I heard he wouldn't sign,
I was like, well,
F you,
all of you.
You can see Daryl being like,
you're not getting any A bonuses or B bonuses.
Take it or leave it.
That's the thing.
Do we know that was the case?
Honestly,
that's my guess,
right?
But even if it wasn't,
even if it wasn't Dean,
it should have been.
The case should have been,
we absolutely are decimated.
We're going to the Stanley up.
I know.
Sign him.
What are we waiting for?
Yeah, it's summer three weeks later when shit don't matter.
Yeah, that's what I mean.
I would love to sit down sometime with Dion, who like that whole and just find out.
Because remember, and even today, there's only so much money you can make coming in on an entry level.
It's really well capped in a lot.
And I think it was more so even then.
Like it was really limited to how much money you could make.
And it was not tens of millions of dollars.
It was, I don't know why.
What was the incentive for him not to sign?
Because it's not as the, I just, I don't think it was it because there was
potentially a work stoppage coming?
It's quite possible that he, maybe, but it's quite possible.
I don't even know, maybe it was the league rules wouldn't even allow it.
I have no clue, no clue.
Yeah.
I seem to recall, I seem to recall.
that it was, there was really only, there was so much that he could make.
And why wouldn't you just give him the max?
Why wouldn't you sign to play?
But I wonder if, thinking back, because as we all know, the league shut down for a year after this,
if maybe he and his representatives were thinking with a new CBA, you can make significantly more.
But he'd only had a year left.
Did they burn a year of that lockout?
Is that what happened on deals?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Interesting.
That's true.
Yeah, and then when is he signed?
Was he actually eligible to play?
That's all worth exploring, yeah.
Let's get D-on-N-in-it.
You know, Daryl loves to play young guys.
I wouldn't see a problem there, hey?
He loved it.
He played the piss out of Dian.
He had no issues with that.
So when people say Daryl doesn't like to play for kids,
it's like, well, fucking number one defense room.
Yeah, as long as they're from Edmonton or Reddier.
Play the shit on the guy.
Well, to be fair, like, you had a camp.
He went through it.
You could see him totally a case that you can't bring him in now.
you know what I thought about this after because we played the highlights the other day of game three and Chris Simon opens the scoring in that game on the power play it's like of course Chris Simon's on the
well who's moving him in front of it yeah something's changed sometimes you it's a different hey it's a different game totally that was hook hold claw like it was different worlds right you weren't getting you weren't finding a soft
spot in the slot to spin and shoot and you had to tackle someone and put them on to the
goalie to find any open space, right?
Like someone was bear hugging you.
It's a different game.
Simon near the other team's goalie is a good move.
I went through that games that obviously are those highlights of game three.
And two minutes in, Jelinea is in the bench is in the penalty box for elbowing or or roughing.
because he ran around on his first shift.
You guys were so physically dominant in game number three.
You ran them out of the building.
They didn't score, three nothing, as we said,
but they looked shook.
And for them to come back,
you have to, I don't know,
is it critique to you or credit to them
for picking themselves back up
and winning one nothing after that?
Well, they won.
So you can't critique them, but happy.
I mean, critique you.
Pretty good.
Yeah.
You're right.
Sorry.
They.
Happy balloons was pretty, was pretty good too.
But shit, if you were, if you were going into game four and you get your
tied coming home one one and you think you gave up one goal.
I'm letting in one tonight, boys.
How's that?
Is that good?
You gave up one goal in two games.
You didn't, you didn't go up three to one.
What the.
You let in one goal in two games.
Not enough.
Even going back.
Hey, Splittsies?
Splitties.
You'd have a hard time figure out.
How the hell are we going to?
So you're telling me, if he's letting in one goal,
we got to lose one of them one nothing.
Oh shit.
Yeah, I guess so.
I guess.
Damn it.
And then what happened?
Well, probably because it's next week.
Today's Wednesday, probably, you know,
Friday, but Friday?
I think this day and his, remember.
A little bit travel.
Travel is easy.
I'll tell you that.
Yeah, for sure.
Convenient.
I wonder if there will be any OT in game five or six.
No spoilers, Dean.
We're cliffhangers here.
You guys had leads in that series.
McClellan.
Peter Klein.
Personal injury.
Personal injury guy.
But did you know he's also the go-to guy in Calgary for your disability insurance claim?
Basically, if you need someone on your side,
to help you out in times of need, whether it's insurance or workplace.
I mean, this is the guy, Peter Klein and McLeod Law.
Great people.
They want to help you out.
Give them a call.
You won't regret it.
If you can't find Mika, go get Peter.
Let's go.
Yeah.
Remember?
Well, of course, remember, but people, when we went to see Serge over at Tower Chrysler.
And Serge, hockey fan, right?
He's a big into the flames and that, but he hasn't been a lifelong hockey guy.
And I think maybe like some people, there's pockets of time where maybe you didn't follow the league or you didn't follow it as closely.
And we were kind of laying out the, the Rett Warner story.
Oh, wow.
He's like, awesome.
You played in the cup final?
So I was in three of them.
Oh, three of them.
Yeah.
You lost all three?
He felt bad afterwards.
But he was like, geez.
Oh,
Jesus, crazy.
He felt bad for you.
Yeah.
It's a slow,
painful walk to the end here.
Let's change the subject.
You should have led with that and went with the
or maybe go with, you want to talk about rum and raisin?
How about rum and raisin, right?
It's not raisin.
I don't like raisins.
Raisins are shit.
It's a rum butter.
Rum butter.
You want to go?
Hey, if you were here right now, I'd take you for a big.
3 and 93.
Somebody texted in 3 and 93.
So good.
So good.
Yeah.
Vendry you should go.
Well, you can't.
You don't like,
you don't eat sweets or dairy.
3.93.
Yeah,
I think we're going to be in that neighborhood
in a few weeks.
Let's go.
Does it have any.
Take the boys.
Capuchy.
You want to have a fagado?
That's fine.
I'm happy to have a lot of this.
Do I do betwe bets?
Yeah.
Me too.
Yeah, me too.
Now, where do we start here, Jack?
Because we got, I think,
even Rhett submitted some bets today.
He's a real team player.
He's pulling him in.
Save rep for last year.
Okay.
Well, I'll start off. I only did one today.
I only did one today. I was going to go another way, but I, you know, I know how many people you take your life savings and you invest it in these picks.
I don't want to steer your own.
Disclamber, please don't do that.
Yeah, don't do that. But be responsible. Be responsible.
Alec Manoa. What happened?
It is not like this.
Wasn't the last, but wasn't it the last start or his second last start where his manager,
visited the mound twice in one inning.
O'S-Snyder.
Last outing.
The second mound visit from the dugout.
That's right.
Which ended a pitching change.
Which you can't do.
You can.
You just have to take the picture out.
Well, yeah, then you have to take the picture out.
I think Manoa's ready.
Give me the, it's Millie Wauke is in Toronto.
Jay's money line win and more than six Ks for Alec Manoa,
who was just fine in that game prior.
A little extra rest, perhaps.
Plus 187 for the Manoa six strikeouts.
out of Jay's win.
I know it's been tough this year.
I don't know if that slider is not popping.
What the hell's going on with him?
Jay's suck right now.
I'm sick of the Jews.
Pissing me off.
On three or four, right?
Stay positive.
Okay, let's go to my betway bets today.
I've also got a little bet on the Jays or two.
Alejandro Kirk, Allie, Alejandro.
Coming out of his slump with a couple hits last night.
And I'm going to go over one and a half hits at plus 130.
And Manoa,
how about Rowdy Tellez coming back?
back to Toronto.
Boomers.
What do we call it?
Twin?
No, your son.
Doppelganger?
Somewhere else is legitimate.
Illigent son.
Rowdy Tellez.
Big home render.
Plus four hun for a ding-dong back in Toronto.
It's getting all emotional, said,
coming back to Toronto.
Isn't that what all shitty baseball teams tell their fans,
oh, it's early.
There's lots of games in baseball.
I've heard this for so many years with the James.
Start.
Nothing matters before June.
No, never.
You can never win a game like they did two years ago.
So yeah, I've got the Talai's home run and Kirk over one and a half hits.
Well, my picks are going to be knocked the socks off.
Are you guys?
Yeah, here's Rett's picks.
Let's take a peek, Jack.
It's the Memorial Cup, Seattle against Camaloops and Kikuchi spelled wrong with two plus assists.
Yeah, but we're big game hunting.
7 plus 700
good Lord Kikuchi set
them up
yeah that's what they call a throwback
hopefully you were around yesterday
show
I love me some Kikuchi
Kikuchi's so good
yeah
unbelievable blazer
yeah
Darcy Tucker
yeah and James Kikuchi
Jimmy Hocci
Jimmy Kukuchi
JKKK
Kuhi
All right, boys.
That's it.
Tomorrow's still no Stanley Cup.
Friday, still no Stanley Cup.
No.
This is important time for us to all just take a deep breath.
A lot of thought we'll have to go into our picks on Friday,
given the huge amount of time we've had to pour through the data,
red.
Or I can take the day off.
Whatever works.
Can always count on you.
So do we?
know why it's taking so GD long?
I think they want to dodge the NBA,
but it was weird when they said if it's five games
or left, we're going to start here, and if it's
six or seven we're going to start here, it's like, well, it's got to be the
ranks, doesn't it? I look, there's nothing
at Team Mobile until the next night's game.
Yeah, but if it screws up, if it's
what about Florida?
Don't know.
They'd probably want to have a consistent schedule,
and if something's going on, maybe that's
anyway, I don't know. What hell am I?
Schedule maker? Idiots.
Rut has the idea of a schedule and then someone else executes it.
So it works.
So best of luck to all of you if you're doing your sunrise wake-up thing.
Yeah, if you get to do the sunrise wake-up and the Costa Rica,
move, good luck.
Back to back.
I would not do the Costa Rica in the morning.
If I could pull that off the night before, I'd be waking up with a big smile on a coffee.
You're going to get some stretching in.
You're going to want to be well prepared and ready and awake for the Costa Rica.
At least that's what I've been led to believe.
All right, buddies, that's it.
We'll see you tomorrow.
Costa Rica.
