Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Heading Into The Weekend With Darren Dreger | FN Barn Burner - May 3rd, 2024

Episode Date: May 3, 2024

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Oh, how we doing, everybody? Welcome to the show. Welcome to Friday. Final day of the week. We are ready for a weekend. We deserve it. After the, you know, the shit weather we've had, some snow and some rain and some cold and some rain and some rain and some snow and some rain and some cold and some rain. But today, though, Friday is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans. That's right. Feel the vibes radiating, boys. Just feel it. It's too hot for jeans here. Yeah. Too hot for pants, right? That's a Friday policy for some. We can't all live in Buffalo.

I mean, it's everyone's dream. It's everyone's life and goal. There's only so many homes there. You can't, not everyone could be in Buffalo. There's capacity. Brows things up with a nice little few years, whiling away the time and beautiful Buffalo, but we're not all so blessed.

Right. As thou. The Buffalo, yeah. Edmont of America. That's what they call it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll take Calgary. It'll be all right.

We'll be all right. Game seven. So seven. Seven? You said no, right? You, you. Which one of us? Like, you said no to a seven?

I thought Boston would win. Yeah. And you picked Toronto to win the series. You have a full side of the fenceer. Yeah, yeah. They did not start well. Ooh. They did not.

Shots are like 151 or something stupid. Yeah. They didn't play particularly well, to be quite honest. A half. They were a couple games. Yeah, they were all right. But a couple slow starts. Margin for error.

Hey, it's pretty tight. Puck goes in off your defenseman's pants and in and now it's one nothing. And then a little breakdown and it's two nothing. And at the other end, it's just toenails and edges of pads and just grazing a guy and going wide. It's nothing more tense than an elimination game where it's like lockdown zero zero as late as it was. last minute of the second like who you like the as the game went on you like them though who's that Austin yeah yeah I thought they kind of took over it took over in the second half yeah shot attempts they were like double the leaps in the second half of the game uh after getting

absolutely you know they didn't get a shot on it even strength for 25 minutes so I missed the first period so it was like whole this is one-sided affair and then you so I slowly saw Boston start to Okay, here they come a little bit. Here they come. I mean, it was one-nothing, well, ends up two-nothing, but it's a one-nothing game. That's right. Yeah.

Anyway, interesting. Ends up being 2-1, Red. I don't, many people didn't see that. I did not see that. Game over celebration, 2-0, and then they had to review it. And with 0.1 seconds left, there was a Boston goal. One. So the Toronto minus 1 and a half betters.

Yeah. The Toronto minus 1-5-betters are like, you sons of bitches. Yeah, the bastards. The Joseph Wall shutout, would have been a very large number. That's a, that's a bad beat right there.

Yeah, it felt bad for him. It's like, Wolf, one of the final games there. Do you want to play to the whistle or you want to just finish us out? Is that eight seconds? Whatever. Whatever, I guess just quit.

Just stop games. Or just get to game seven. Who cares about this shit anyway, Deda. We got a game seven. We're going for one. We got one. Yeah. I like the stink guy that Swayman gave McAvoy on the first goal.

It's quick. We can take a look at it here. Here's the sounds. The Toronto was critiqued and criticized for having dead crowds in games, what, three and four? I don't know if that's... To be fair, they play like shit, so they didn't have a lot to cheer about. Fair enough. They were into it last night,

off the pants and in for Willie on the first goal. And Swayman's not digging it. What are you doing here, Charlie? What do you do, Red, watched by Beecher shot and score? What do you do, Rhett, if you're the defenseman? Walker. Or? Get the hell out of the way?

That's right. One of the other place. How about all stand right? here deflect again. Watch the slow mo. This is so damning. He literally looks like he's playing kickball with that thing. Swamen's in perfect position to stop that thing,

unless it gets tipped a foot and a half into the corner. Jeez. He's all, like there's no holes there. He's dropping into his butterfly and then, oh, yeah. You know, knee lander is maybe a frustrated, but like you look at the moves here.

I'm going to cut up. He's unreal. He is unbelievably talented, isn't he? He's a guy. that the temperature of the market and the moment, it's never too hot for him. That was his 13th or 14th elimination game. He has eight goals in those.

That's incredible. Who's the poor bastard of Beacher trying to chase, trying to chase him down? Come here, you. Get over here. Hey, you get over here. Got him now. I just quit it now. You stop.

But just stop, though, too. That's, I think he's awesome. Like, I'm not a Leafs fan, but you can clearly see the town. he fluked the fucking goal. Oh, sure. Right? 100% Maccoy fit. Beach is actually doing a pretty good job of covering him.

He's pushed him to the outside and giving him a rister for a wrister from. The shot they allow is a very, very good one to allow, given all the spots that Nealander was in. And the reason I bring it up because I was watching my kid play team Sweden before this game. Anyway, and I'm like, this is a very teachable moment because young kids. kids, they're always trying to get the puck. I got to get the buck.

Puck, puck. And it's like, how about you play the body and keep him to the outside? Eventually, he's going to spin himself into a corner or take a shot and then you recover. And I was actually thinking while watching that play, that's pretty good coverage against one of the best in the world. Yeah. You've got to push to the outside. You're not overcommitting. It goes in the net, obviously. And then it goes in there like, well, I guess I can't use that clip.

Like, what's the probability that that shot goes in if you have a hundred from there? Even McAvoy standing there is typically going to stop that. And if it goes off of his pants, how often is it going to go into the top corner the other way? Like that's an incredibly low probability chance. It's the exact type of shot you want to surrender because they almost never go in unless someone makes a mistake, Charlie McAvoy. That's a playoff.

So you know what? I saw that one and ends up, I thought it was going. There's a game winning goal except they scored late. Much like the goal against Vancouver the other night. Really kind of shot from just inside the blue line. It doesn't seem to be dangerous. Again, you've pushed them out.

Yeah, you'll give up that shot. Finds away. Game over. Going on to Nashville. The second goal that Nylander scored, a little more skill involved, for sure. But the play by Nyes off the wall is a hell of a play. And they were very excited.

There's the puck out for Nyes. And now Nielander, break away. Nelander Deeks, scores. It's so fluffy. So it looks like that game in Buffalo with all the Lee fans. Okay. I love this because I agree with Neelander. Obviously a nice move.

Nice and nice pass. That defenseman cheated. He knew that guy was going to, Neelander was going to have a breakaway and he got stuck. And he didn't know what to do. That guy trying to finish the check. That's a shitty play by that guy. Is that McAvoy again?

He cheated and he was too lazy at, right there he knows right there he knows he can't go it's a two on one you can't play one so just pivot and head back you and he was lazy and thought he could cheat it and nope I give nice credit to because he knows he's taking a hit in a bad spot there but he does it to spring me later yeah and you're right it's it's a it's a defenseman miscue but once McAvoy's committed to hitting him nice still has to make the play he's like bury me but I'm doing you can bury me only if I get bring this guy. It's a nice move. Do it from the once more.

Like if McAvoy just backs in and accepts the rush, just right there. Yeah. Pivot. It's too hard. And it'll be fast enough to get back to push on a back pressure. I'm looking for Boston. Like we're really breaking down game field. I know. I know. Jeez. Wow. Look at us. Right? Like you,

I'm not sure if that guy's catching Nylander if he cuts in anyway. Yeah, maybe not. But you're going to buy time. I'm actually thinking if he can catch nice, but. anyway, I just, I thought that was a piss poor play by McAvoy again going, you know effing well. All that guy, he makes a nice turn and spin, puts it right on the tape. He could have just chipped it up the wall either way, right? Like,

Huck's past you, you're in trouble for sure. I wonder what he does to your point. So watching it again, breaking it down. If right now McAvoy. Pivots and he's going to start coming back in. Nyes is probably just going to pick this up and skate it in and try. I'd rather two on one than a breakaway for kneelander. He's seeing it.

He's seeing it right now. That's Charlie McAvoy. That's not some Schlep playing junior hockey, right? You tell me he can't see that there's another leaf player that's busted loose. He absolutely knows. That's a bad play. Yeah, it's bad read. And a good play.

It's a great play by Nyes. And that's a couple of big ones for Nyes, right? Because he scores the O2 winner and gave five. He thought he was really impactful before scoring that goal in game five. Yeah. Good player. Feels like we're doing Leaf show here. Sorry to all the leaf haters.

Well, you know what it is. We talk with the oilers. Oh, you guys, I just talked about the oil. They need to talk with Lee. I know. I got news for you. The Flames, yeah. Hey, if the Flames wanted to play a playoff game or two,

I bet we'd talk about it. We'd probably be talking about it right now, RFM. And the last, this is now going to be very leafy, I guess. but there was the one, it's a crowd shot. And you listen to, and I just wanted it, I want the volume to listen to how, and it's not just the lead fans, it's every fan when you're in a playoff atmosphere,

which is why it kills you right now to not be part of this shit. Listen to how quiet the crowd gets right before the, it's like they're excited here, it comes, and then there's that pause. You can just hear everybody taking a breath. Gasp. And then, uh,

of obviously the explosion. Right? Like everybody's just, Hockered Wright type. Roy! Playoffs, God damn it, eh? There's a moment. We've talked about it.

Give us a moment. We love a moment. Some kid went to the game. That's a moment. I was at the one with, and who knows, if I guess they were losing seven again, and that's not going to be a great moment. But pretty cool. Again, it helps not having a rooting interest for sure, because I don't,

I guess for tree at my you know, whatever. And I just think there's more, there's always more, I don't know, you need, you need the villain. You need the black hat. You need to have somebody

to get a motion going where it wouldn't be otherwise. And the Leafs kind of do that, whether it's because you have fans in your office or your uncle is one and you can't handle his texts after they win or whatever it is. They just,

they elicit emotion where there may not be otherwise. So now we get the perfect, perfect storyline set up. The Bruins either blow 3-1 leads for back-to-back years. No other pro-sports team in North American history has done that. Or the Leafs lose like a seventh game seven in a row or something hilarious. Like this is unbelievable. No matter what happens, we are like juicy storyline.

This is perfect outcome, boys. Yeah, sixth game seven between Toronto, Boston. Toronto has won one of them back in 59. Remember it well. Yeah, great game. Yeah. Yeah, first team, NBA, NHL, MLB. blow potentially to blow 3-1 series leads and back-to-back seasons.

Or the Leafs are going to lose a six straight game seven. Just wild. Just wild. Okay, now, I found this. This is crazy. Do we notice a pattern when it's Leafs and Bruins? 2013, this is the epic game seven collapse for Toronto. Boston, Toronto, Boston, Toronto, Boston, Toronto, Boston, Toronto, Boston, Toronto,

2018, which was the core four, oh, we're going to do it. Boston, Toronto, Toronto, Boston, Toronto, Boston, exact same pattern, every bleeping year. So if the pattern holds is Boston and Game 7. but is that not nutty to think it could play out that way? Unbelievable. And the other part is too for Boston, it's not as though, because we kind of joked about, oh, do they plant the seed?

Is this something now? There is some history for Boston here now, too. They've screwed things up a lot. They've lost six series clinching games going back to 2022, chances to shut things down and they have not done it. And I know that every year it's a different team and different players. If you look at the history of Boston, Austin, over the last 20 years, they've had a ton of success,

but they have also had massive screw-ups. Huge. Let me support you on that. Since they won the cup in 2011 against Vancouver, they have the best regular season record in the NHL. That's like 13, 14 seasons, something like that. It's incredible. They're the only team out of the top six over that span that does not want a cup.

They lost games. They lost game seven last year to the Panthers after being up 3-1. They lost game seven in Raleigh to the Hurricanes in 2022. That's the conference final. They lost game seven at home to the Blues for the cup in 2019. After having a chance. Right. They were up three, two.

So does it Matt, does it have any bearing? No further back. What? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's. They, they screwed up against Chicago.

They had the cup in hand. When you look at that group that's Chara, Marshand, Bergeron, you add Pasternak, McAvoy comes in. You know, you've gone from Vesnigoli to Vesnigoli when you go from like Thomas to Rask

Allmark wins it last year, Swamen this year. Like to think with that core, there's going to be a bunch of Hall of Famers, one cup. That's it. And that's like a decade plus with a lot of those guys.

When you talk about that core of Chara Bergeron, Krati, Marchand, McAvoy, like, one. I mean, Toronto's been paying it the biggest chokers ever and I get it because they've what is it, eight, nine years in a row, they have one

series win, but you're going to look back at this Boston group, like, how do they only win one there with all those Hall of Famers? Yeah. There's going to be some broken hearts and Saturday night. I love it. It's perfect. Broken hearts. It might be the guy from this now, of course,

there's nothing like a home broadcast. Oh, there's nothing like a home broadcast. Nothing like a homer. Joe Bowen, love him. He is one of the guys, I think, is a very best right now. You talk about getting emotion and adding to the excitement of the game. Here was

J.B. last night at the mic for the Leafs. Lowry at the far point. Long shot off a leg goes wide. Morgan Riley trying to chip it ahead. He does. Cleared by Neelander. Up ahead for Nyes. To Neelander.

Break away. Game on a stick. Willie Neal. Oh, everybody. Joe Bowen's going to line up at left wing. We're going to do it. Joe's having protein shakes, getting his afternoon naps in, because they're going to do it this time. They are going to do it.

But it does set things up. And we've now got one game seven, who knows. We'll talk about the other scenario. Two more chance is going up. Bring into the program, as we always do on a Friday, our buddy, TSN Hockey Insider, Darren Dregor. Now, I know on the afternoon we talked to McClennon, they got Kevin Hayes.

He wasn't allowed to go to the game last night because every time he goes to a game, they lose. And if he stays away, they win. So now what about you? Do you have something similar? You said you kind of had some, you have season tickets or whatever. Did you stay away or did you go or where were you for this one?

No, stuck in studio. That's my role. I'm stuck in studio trying to manage the likes of O'Neill. And last night it was Mike Johnson. And, you know, James Dothie is a star. So he just comes in out of his dressing room right before airtime. Leaves me to mine the zoo, right? Like, just keep the animals and check.

So, no, I didn't get there. And it'll be curious. Like, you know, Hayes is a card-carrying member of Leaves Nation. He makes no apologies about that. I mean, if you've listened to him on radio, on overdrive, to some degree, O'Dog is as well. But at least he's, you know, got the eye for, you know, cutting analysis when needed.

So now that, yeah, Toronto ended the home ice curse, I bet that Hayes probably is, welcome in the building any type of it's like well it's over now i can go back to the games no you can't go back to the no no sorry yeah we were just kind of running through it there's there's there's plenty of history and it's very very clear and it's out there wherever you want to find it how this is gone for the leaps they've not fared well against boston in must-win situations but we were talking you know boston's got their own share of heartbreak here going back because you go to the 2019 cup final they lose. They lost game seven to Raleigh. They lost game seven last year, blown three one leads.

This would be the first team ever and basically the pro sports to blow back to back three one leads. I wonder, I wasn't necessarily buying it before last night, maybe kind of buying that there might be some mental baggage there for this Boston team. I think that's fair. And go back to earlier in the series when, you know, they're up three one. And obviously the line of questioning takes you back to last year when they were up 3-1 to Florida, end up losing, as you've articulated here in that game 7. And Brad Marshand and company, the players didn't want to have anything to do with talking about it at that point. It's ancient history. We're just worried about closing this series in the future.

And Jim Montgomery, until last night, was at least willing to use it as ammunition, you know, to try and keep his guys in check and as motivated as they need to be. And then last night post game, he wasn't quite as ordinary post-game six as he was game five. And he talked about that. You know, game five, they just were outplayed. For the most part of game six, certainly the first half of game six, they were wildly outplayed and kept in check. And he wasn't willing to look at game seven other than, okay, obviously that's the task at hand. I'm not worrying about what has just happened.

We lost five. We lost six. Now the series is tied at three. They're wound tight. They are. And, you know, I just wonder, it's pretty obvious your best players need to be their best. Like, that's cliche. We talked about that every single year going into the playoffs.

Yeah, thanks. But it just seems like there's another layer of tension around this club, whether that's been employed by Montgomery or whether that's just coming from the group and coming from within. But then again last night, and I, you know, I feel like Montgomery's getting headlined a little bit here because I think it was Fluto who wrote the piece about where's David Posternak and then identified that, yeah, Montgomery called him out. Well, Montgomery, you know, said that Pasta needs to step up. That was the end of an answer where the reporter specifically asked about Pasternak and David Mershan. It's not like he went out of his way to throw his star player under the bus. He just acknowledged the obvious here.

But tell you, as much heat guys as there's on, the Toronto Maple Leafs, Sheldon Keith's job, the core of the Maple Leafs, you could be having a similar conversation with what's going on in Boston. I thought it was in three one losses. Yeah, I thought that was an interesting segment. To your point about, you know, things being tense with Boston, where Marchand's kind of sideways on the bench. And I think we probably all saw that.

And Montgomery is really kind of laying into him and laying into other guys. And they cut away. And then they go back to Montgomery and he's almost vibrating. Like you can see him kind of. Oh, his wires touch. Holy. That's a great.

You used it with Kiprios last week. That's a great. I'm stealing that. His wires were touching for sure. Which generally it's the coach. Hey, we're right where we want to be. It's a scoreless game. There's no worry here.

were fine and they did not look fine. And then they lose. Maybe too coincidental and too mainstream media-esque to kind of connect those dots. But I was surprised. I was like, wow, I wouldn't have thought Montgomery would be in that spot in a 0-0 game where you can win the series tonight if you get a goal here.

Yeah. Do you foresee Austin Matthews returning for game seven or not? Does it matter? And then also the Bruins started the series alternating goal. He's abandoned that. And it's gone worse for them since they abandoned the alternating is not that sweat is the problem no and and look if we stick with the goalies here for a moment i mean that's by design in terms of you know montgomery made this clear several weeks ago okay we're we're alternating until we get into the playoffs then we'll take three four games and we'll

make a call on who we think has the hotter hat historically it has been swayman versus austin matthews and austin matthews and the maple leaves versus allmark not quite as flattering so maybe that factored into the decision. I mean, I don't know how much more Jeremy Swayman can do. I mean, without run support, what are they supposed to? What's the goalie supposed to do? In fact, you know, the first kneelander goal, I thought, by the way, Charlie McVoy was light so good.

I mean, he was the best brewing last night. And he got unlucky on the first kneelander goal. The puck went in off his knee and oversweman. And what do you do? I mean, you just have to find a way to adjust. What about the second goal? Because that's twice where his theoretical errors lead directly to goals. Yeah.

I guess, and, you know, Rhett, maybe you can analyze this better than I can. You know, for Willie Neelander to have this much space. And in fairness, it's a real nice play, a pretty crafty play by Matthew Nyes of the Maple Leafs, who's had a real nice series to this point where he uses his big body to protect the puck and then just shovels it out with Neelander on the fly. bucking through the neutral zone across the offensive blue line. Well, we can get a telestrator out. Ret.

can use the tele, our telestrade, which we don't have. But we were discussing this. It was right about here, Retro, kind of, because that's not a boy.

He makes a mistake. I think he reads this and he says, screw it. I'm going to cheat for it anyway. And, you know, and under the circumstances with two minutes left, you might be thinking,

I've got to push. I get that part of it, but I still think it's a mistake. It's, you can clearly see there's a leaf break and free. and even if Nise doesn't make that nice a pass, all he has to do is chip it by him. Right.

And Nielander skating into it. Like, I just think, anyway, I was watching it and I'm like, oh, he's going to cheat it. He's going to, and you're like, oh, boy, if he makes the play, you're probably thinking, great job, we're going for it. But I, look, I know nothing about coaching in the national hockey league.

So I'm not going to jump on my soapbox here and be critical, overly critical of Jim Montgomery. I watch a lot of Bruins games because a buddy of mine, his son plays for the Bruins. So I've got vested interest in watching this. Not playing now. Maddie Pockery is a kid, right? He played the first half and then went to play for Canada and wrecked his shoulder and had surgery and the rest is history. So what I know about Montgomery, he's got the short leash.

And he makes line adjustments minute by minute, not period by period. You're playing center. Oh, hold on a second. I didn't like the look of that. No, you move from the wing and you're playing center now. Like, that's kind of how he does it. And he maybe is now victim of overthinking. And if you go into game five, it doesn't seem like much,

but he takes an experienced guy like Kevin Chatt and Kirk out of the lineup, puts in Grizzlick, and takes out Johnny Beecher, who's a six, three and a half, 220 pounds centerman, who's pretty good in face-ups. Yeah, I know he's a fourth line player. He's a fourth line player. But he just, he made a bunch of adjustments that probably in hindsight he maybe wouldn't do. So then they had to collect themselves.

Chattinger comes in for game six. Grisling's gone. Beecher comes back in. I mean, the outcome is still the same. But I think that there's a growing level of frustration among the player group with how things are being managed to. Two things. It's fine when it works. And if you only lose by one, so you're like, damn it, like,

was it this coaching or the overcoaching or what, you know, or was it just circumstance? And if you win game seven, it's all forgot. But I guess more importantly for me, thoughts on Posternak, because there's a guy that needs to get it done and hasn't. And has, has historically against Toronto. So again, because I watch so many Bruins games, if you watch this guy play, you're in awe.

you know, because of the shot, the goals that he scores. He's just such a dynamic opportunistic goal score. But then when he's not scoring goals, he is a turnover machine, like an absolute giveaway machine. I think he led the league, did he not? And giveaways this year were like 98. Now, that's saying something. I think he was two more than Nikita Kutrov, who, yeah, he's a pretty good player.

He's probably going to win the heart. So we're not varying pasta for that. But the reason I bring it up is because he brought it up after game five. I think, where he talked about some of the things that he had to channel and change going into the playoffs. One was he had to focus on the details, could not turn the puck over nearly as much as he historically as in the regular season. And the other thing was he wanted to be more physical. I don't know, man. Like you've had so much success.

What are you tinkering with it for? Just go out there and play your game. So I don't know if that's his design or the. coaches in his ear saying. That doesn't sound like a guy doing a personal analysis of his game, especially for a guy like that. And like you play on teams and there are certain guys you're like you could be a little more physical. And then there's guys that you're like, don't no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't. Well, and to be fair, when they were up 3-1 and he had a highlight real heavy hits and separating guys from puck to look pretty good. It's just that when you lose two in a row and

you've lost the grip on the 3-1, now all this comes into question. When he'd scored, two goals in the first three games, there was not this cry for him to be better. Right. And you throw all in, sorry, go ahead, drags.

No, no, go ahead. I was just going to say it. And you throw into this whole mix and it happens from time to time. What's happening on the Toronto side is they've made a goaltending switch and the goalie's terrific. Yeah.

This, that might, it might be less about Pasternak and everything else. But it's a small sample size. The numbers, boys. But man, the, good in limited act. I mean, I didn't see it coming this quickly. And okay, let's be fair.

They haven't won anything yet. Right. And if they lose game seven, you know, we're going to looking back and we're looking back at the, the starts for Joel. And we're like, hey, this kid is, he is the future in goal for Toronto. I mean, he's, he's making that case abundantly clear here. So in saying that, you know, Sheldon Keefe is under fire. I don't think it matters really what happens in game seven if they lose you know if they win and they lose to the florida panthers i do think that brad true living is still going to embrace the idea of change right because this team isn't built to you know win around they're built to get to the conference final or contend for the stanley cup and anything short of that is going to be deemed as a disappointment you know given the core of

this group so you know previous management caldoubis you know didn't have the stomach or the interest in hitting the core. Trail living wanted to first have a look at this season. And I think that's fair. Get a season under your belt. Brought it in some sandpaper. Indomian Bertuzi, who've been terrific, by the way.

Really, really good in this postseason. You know, he's done some other things. But if they lose in game seven or they get beaten by the Florida Panthers in round two, I still think that all that stuff is going to come into play. But Sheldon is coaching his ass off. He is. And there really wasn't a reason other than to go to the old coaching handbook that tells you, okay, you need a spark. And in game four, going into the third period, they needed a spark. He knew Matthews wasn't coming out for that final period in game four. The doctors pulled him, you know, based on injury. So he puts Joe Woolen net. The kid has a good finish. The team responds, at least pushes back. So it's an easy decision to start him in game five. He was stellar in game five. and was equally as good in game six. But I still think that the heat is on the coach.

He's not worrying about that. He's coach who win game seven. He's not coaching for his future. He's going to get another job if he's let go by the Leafs. But that's where we're at. Maybe with both clubs. Maybe not just Toronto. Maybe Boston, too.

I really liked how he was coach, and I don't know that if he's in charge of it, but how their penalty kill was approaching to Boston. They're aggressive up high in Boston. didn't, couldn't figure out how to, they're trying to do a high setup and Toronto just said, screw it, we're going to push you up there and a turnover, turn over, turn over turnover.

Yeah, those were adjustments that were made. Because the first three games of the series, three and a half games in the series, it wasn't that. Like, their penalty kill wasn't, their power play has been kind of non-existent for the Maple Leafs. So we'll see. I mean, anytime you have a game seven,

obviously, it's, it's a fun environment. environment. And we'll see. Everything that Toronto has done, though, is out of character. It really truly is. Like the fact that there's a game of unselfishness now that they're playing, right? It's not about, okay, who's going to get multiple points? No, we've got to win by three or four goals here. No, no, no, no. They're blocking shots. Ret, you talked about the penalty kill. You know, they're doing the things that you need to do to be successful. So we'll see. Maybe they got on a run.

And we'll have a completely different. Last year, the Panthers went from Alex Lyon down 3-1 to Sergey Bogovsky and he went 950 for a month and everything went okay. We can talk all you want about all these narratives. You get 966 goal-tending. You're winning a lot of games. 100%. Absolutely right.

The Jets didn't get that. No. Winnipeg did not get, did they get 866? I'm not sure that they got that, to be honest. Hold on, though. Connor. I watched that media event. yesterday, not making fun of him.

He showed it too. Best hockey of his career. I love the guy, not just because, you know, he's going to win the Vesna again, probably. I mean, I think that's fairly, it's pretty obvious, right? I like listening to him talk because he's got a level of confidence that is unparalleled. And that's saying something when you talk about pro sports. If you don't have an abundance of confidence, chances are you're not going to be as successful as he can be. but for him to sit there and say this was the best hockey of my career,

well, then you're kind of sort of throwing everybody in front of you under the bus because you're under siege and they didn't get the job done in front of you. And then furthermore, he went on to say, and you guys probably peck this apart too, where he talked about not making the adjustments, right? You know, identifying the breakdowns and then fixing them game after game to a point where Adam Lowry finally had to dive in and say,

I mean, you're making. it sounded like we didn't watch a video. We watched video. So anyway, I guess what I was, I was a bit surprised with here, guys, quick, is that, and it's a good thing. It's not a bad thing. It's a good thing. It represents where the organization is. All the positivity that came out of that, that couldn't have been easy losing five games, you know, and losing five games to the Colorado Avalanche. I mean, it just shows you how, you know, if you don't have that extra gear like the obviously have, then, you know, and pretty simple.

I was going to say, boom, and in media, we want guys that are honest and give good answers. I didn't think that was a spot to do that. You know, you don't want to crush, you don't want to crush the guys. A guy's never say anything.

I never say, you're so stupid. It was dumb thing to say. There's a side here, though, quickly. So, and I can't tell you who told me this, but so they leave the podium and there's a discussion after the fact, entirely about, well, you know that you kind of threw bones in the group under the bus. No, no, I didn't mean to do that at all.

Yeah. Okay. Speaking of bones, there again, so you have a Vesna nominee at the worst time possible. Yeah. And for Bones, I wonder, is this going to be, he's up for the Jack Adams for coach of the year? I got to wonder if there's a change coming there as well. Just there's the coaching side. And then there's the health and life.

He's going to be 70, his wife. And we saw all that he had to be away. I do wonder if there's a change coming in Winnipe. I think that's the case. You know, I do. And out of respect, I mean, we have to allow Rick Bonas and his family and the Jets to make that official. My sense is, yeah, he's going to he's going to die back in a retirement for all the things, Boomer that you just talked about, man.

Like nobody, you know, I don't think that the fan realizes how hard it is. is to be an NHL coach or an NHL head coach. And, you know, obviously you have to be flanked by real quality assistance and a staff. And most NHL clubs have that support group. But it is a grind mentally and physically. And then on top of that, you know, you know, I have the situation that unfolded with his wife, Judy, the leave of absence that that bones took to look after his family. Then he runs into kidney stone issues late in the year.

He poured his heart, sweat, and tears into this. And I'll tell you this. You know, when he spoke to the media yesterday, he talked about how, you know, the room needed to be cleaned up a little bit. Well, that's been accomplished. He talked about the culture that needed to be established. Well, that's been established. You know, the next step in this process is a level of maturity and commitment to whatever

it is needed to increase your intensity to win a playoff series. That's what's needed. So I think that in the very near future, we'll get the official word from Rick Bonus. But then I'm more interested in, you know, okay, celebrate a great man and a great career. What's next on the bench? Is it Scott E. Arneill who took over on an interim basis who was a top candidate prior to Barry Trott saying, now I'm out. And then them deciding, okay, well, maybe we do need more experience. And Bonus obviously was their target.

or do they again look at the wheel of experience and find out what it's going to take to land Todd McClellan or Craig Barube or Dean Eveson or or or or so yeah there's plenty of work ahead for Chevy and the Winnipeg Jets. Yeah and some roster construction too like most teams you get to the end of the year.

Now speaking, I guess we can kind of segue way here. A former jet who was in L.A. who saw his season come to an end. Man, Pierre-Luc Dubois has been heavily criticized. Like we could put it there. To the point that even in the last 24 hours, it started to crop up on social media. So if you buy this guy out,

this is fascinating. You know, before he's 25, but if he's 26, it goes to, is this a realistic option for the LA Kings? A 14 year? It would save them a considerable amount of money and maybe some headaches inside that room, but they just signed him to this massive deal.

Yeah, I mean, if they embrace bio, then that's coming from the owner's office because the owner is the one that's going to have to eat this for the next 14 years. And as soon as they announced that Pierre-Luc Dubois is being bought out, then the announcement will be Roblich has been fired. Luke Robitai is out, and everyone associated with hockey operations

is also on the unemployment line. Yeah, but it wouldn't be the bio. That would be the trade, right? Let's not pretend that $1.1 million doesn't come off their cap anyway. You're spending the exact same amount on your roster. It's the failure of the trade that's getting you fired here, that it went so poorly you'd rather pay this guy to go away. I get it, but you're year one into this thing.

Like, how about to have a conversation with Pat Brassano represents Pierre-Luc Dubois, or better yet, sit Pierre-Luc Dubois in the boardroom with everybody and say, okay, like, what is happening? what is going on here. But you would have had that conversation before you signed them, wouldn't you? Like, you know what I mean? It's already costing a coach, right, Red?

I just, and I'm not, I don't disagree with your point. Yeah. And it's hard sitting in our chairs to, you know, you would dig more and know more people closer to the source than we would, I don't think he gives a rat's ass. Well, it doesn't look like that, right?

And, and maybe worse, and sorry for cutting you off. No, no. Maybe worse. The appearance of his teammates are they don't give a rat's ass about him. Well, guys, I don't know. Like Todd McClellan, at the end of his days with the lost hand of those kings looked exhausted. And I don't think it was that he had lost his will to stay in the fight and try and pull this team out of the fire. I think that it was more or less about one guy, maybe a couple.

And the reason I feel like that without ever having that conversation with Todd is I know the level of frustration that other coaches in Winnipeg and in Columbus had to deal with Pierre Luke Dubois. And it's disappointing. I don't know Pierre Luke Dubois well. I mean, I've interviewed him a bunch of times. I don't know him well. But you look at the frame of this guy and the skill set of this guy. Like, I mean, every coach in the league is looking at this kid. going, oh boy, if we can just find a way to channel that, what you could have.

And pretty clear, that's what Rob Blake thought was going to happen. I was screaming to get him here in Calgary when there was talk of it a few years ago. I'm like, after watching him play in the Toronto series of the bubble, I'm like, oh, yes, please. I'm floored by how his attitude just seems to. He's an immovable object. That's why that's why you got the buyout speculation. And the fascinating part about the buyout, as you were showing, boom, is like,

depending when the Stanley Cup ends, it's either a third of his entire money owed, which is not a lot, or two thirds, which is, you know, double the amount of one third. This is, like, if you want to get everyone together here, you can come up with a great plan. You don't get to play another season and figure this out. It goes to a two-thirds buyout the day he turns 26. That's June 24th. You don't have a season to run it back on. This is your one chance to buy them out for cheap.

Or it's like if you're sitting in a year, you're like, man, like we spent an extra $15 million more than we needed to. Yeah. And that's why we're talking about it. And that's why your point is well made. Like, you know, if they're buying out Pierre Louvre Dubois, then they're completely gutting hockey operations. But, you know, it's only because it's such a swing and a mess.

And on top of that, okay, Winnipeg didn't win anything either. You know, Winnipeg lost two. a real good Colorado team. But if you spent five minutes watching Gabe Volardi play, you wouldn't do that trade any day of the week, any century, one for one. Valardi for PLD,

let alone all the other assets. Like I was in Winfair for the first two games of that series, and I watched Capari, the kid skate with the black aces in practice. I mean, they think he's got a legit chance of being a top three center in the National Acculing moving forward. And that's just a piece.

You know, Aliafalo, the draft pick that the academy is just a comedy of riches. So you never, look, I mean, Rob Blake is a good dude. The people inside hockey ops with the last hand of the skis, quality individuals, but that's a tough one to get past. And what? I don't, again, I don't disagree. But who was screaming that he was an idiot last year?

Nobody. No. And so he said, back-to-back 60-point seasons, one bad year. If you buy him out, imagine you go to scores 30, he puts up 65 on a one-year deal in Montreal. You're like, fuck, that's the guy we traded for. So, you know, as soon as Kevin Trevely, I've called down to the coach's office and said,

here's the trade. I'm assuming that all coaches in that room just did one of these without even hearing what was coming back. Okay, thanks. You know, that's sad because, again, man, the tools are there, but it just either doesn't, he's not committed enough. to play the way he's capable of playing

or has lost his way. Boom, you want to go somewhere else? Nope. Are we, so just to further this, is this an issue that you believe is going to continue to crop up?

Like, everyone's turning, kids and they're coming through and their own businesses and this and that and this and that. Are we at all concerned? And then onto the contract talks

and the CBA and stuff, they're guaranteed they're going to want to make some, I don't know, thinking they're going to want to make some changes. Because, and I don't, I'm a player. I want what's good for the players. But you know what? This is, this is shameful.

And the team and the ownership, they should have ways out of this stuff. I think. Well, they kind of do. And that's the buyout that we've already talked about. There's never going to be a place where the players association gives up on guaranteed contracts. So beyond that, well, we weren't going to, I'll fight you on that. I'll fight you because we were. were never going to have a salary cow.

Oh, I know. I remember. Never. Can't have it. Go and die on. But, okay, not to get into this deep collective bargaining agreement conversation, but back when you played and you were in that fight for the greater good, you had a legion of players who were like-minded and invested and willing to fight that fight.

I'm not sure you'd find five guys right. now at an early stage in your point too is that if the you think that you think if the owners and Gary want to put the squeeze on the players that this group is going to band together and fight?

No. Yeah, but if you honestly you commit him $68 right and you only pay a third. Isn't that exactly what you're talking about? That's a mechanism to get out from a shitty contract. That's for yeah, I guess as a young guy. Yeah, they're fortunate that he can be 25 or under. I, And you're, I just, like I said, I'm a player.

I want what's good for the players. But I also, when something like this happens, that's, like I said, who, which, which one of us for? Yeah. We're appalled at the price that LA paid and what they offered them as far as pay. And we're thinking that Rob Blake and these guys are clowns. Like, there are contracts where people go, what the hell were they thinking? Right away. none of us were up in arms

They kept Kempay, they kept Byfield What a fucking win for the Kings Look how deep they are down the middle This team is going to be tough to stop And that's fine And the player identified Los Angeles as a place he wanted to know Right

That's what would be most disappointing Like it felt like yeah there's some risk If you're Robblich Of course there's risk I mean it's not like their pro scouts didn't watch BLD You know I mean come on in Corcorps, they paid close attention. But for him to, you know, negotiate a steep contract,

get recognized all the assets going out as part of this deal and have the season that he had. I mean, again, I feel like bio it seems ridiculous just because you're through one year. That's it. That's it. But are you willing to your point earlier, to gamble? You can have the conversation based to face with Bailey. He tells you I'm going to train harder than I've ever trained. I'm going to give you everything I got, I promise.

Is that enough? Yeah. Is it worth the $15 million gamble, right? The last thing, I brought it up yesterday, I don't like bringing it up. But to me, there's something going on off the ice because this doesn't make sense. Could it be. Yeah. I haven't heard that.

I don't normally pull around in that kind of stuff. Neither do I. Not that I don't even like to bring it. No, no, I get it. I mean, if that's true, that that would explain, that would explain part of it, right? Because, man, there's going to be something. Like, what is it? And to bring the level of frustration out of a guy like Rick Bonas and Winnipeg who's been there, done that, seen it at all.

And then likewise, that of Todd McColl, it ended up costing Todd his job. Yeah. That's really. That's what we're talking about. Yeah. And of course, here there's a quiet as well. What if is they, could you get out of this Jonathan Hubert Odeal? If you trade Hubert O.L.A. And you bring PLD here and then you buy them out. Then it's really getting a deal on that 10 million. Yeah. On that 10 million contract. The one big difference is one you could buy out. The other's absolutely bomb-proof.

It's all. But Hugh will be great in L.A. Of course you would. Yeah. Love the Sun. All guys go to L.A. and Excel. His agent lives in L.A. so they can spend it. together, yes. Noted Michael Furleek, Ice Time Macbert, Alan Walsh, L.A., okay, good. Yeah. Good stuff. You know what, we're going to let you get out of here. I guess just quick thoughts. Dallas has won three straight against Vegas. They looked like they were conference winners going to go down here, but they've looked pretty good. And I guess thoughts on what Vancouver has in their hands now with Nashville. Well, Vancouver's got to generate some offense here, right? Like so much of the

talk has been on the goaltending. And I see that Demko is skating. again, you know, that's a positive. He's not going to be ready for the remainder of this series. But they've got to agree more shots, gets some more craft to do all the old school stuff on U.C. Cerros. And it kind of feels like Nashville's hit their stride here a little bit. So Canucks have a bit of a problem. Watch Vegas dials closely the other night.

I don't have any specifics on this. Everybody's feeling something this time of year. But I think we're going to learn that the Vegas Golden Knights are carrying a number of guys. who aren't healthy. Because that's the way it looks. It looks like they're running on fumes to me. And Dallas is a big, strong, heavy team can play with that level of pace. So we'll see.

But Dallas is going to be a tough out. Kristanav on the ice for five, four, none against, high dangers, 23, four, six against, still being Kristaana. That's a hell of the pickup. Really good pickup. I mean, you know, you looked at the offseason. I'm curious as to what's going to happen with him there. I got to believe that they're going to try and extend, but, you know,

it's a fit, right? It's a fit, right? It's a great fit, great fit. You know, not that we're surprised, but even when the Noah Hanof and, like, all of the trade speculation around Dallas and all the teams that were looking at that same group, my Dallas sources kept saying, repeated. It's one guy. Tanaf. That was the only guy they wanted. Yeah, they kick tires a little bit on Sean Walker in Philadelphia,

but they never, ever lost sight of TANF, not one time. Beautiful stuff, man. Appreciate you as always. Have a fine weekend. We'll catch up on Friday. You bet you. There will be aftermath next week. Plenty of things to talk about.

Some carnage. Yeah, we'll deal with it. Thanks, man. There is. TSN Hockey Insider and our buddy, Aaron Dregor, here on Barnburner on Friday. there's there's a a 14 year buyout and I know we've seen them in the pre

when DiPiatro got bought out and when Yashan got bought out but they had signed what 12 and whatever year deals but I have to I have to wonder if you sit there and you look each other in the eye is this going to get better in the next seven years? I know I think you're

guts can tell you a lot and being around a guy for a year can tell you a lot they know damn well they what the gamble is and look at the money guys it's not that much it's not that much i'd buy them out the cap's 100 million where like the fourth year like we're talking about one two percent of your cap who cares okay so we love rob like luke robertai classy guys there's no one in the world that says anything but great guys so you're going to trust in whether you keep them or not you these are good people. Well, you know, who else is a good person in that organization, players-wise? You got to think to Drew Dowdy, you trust his opinion on something?

What about Anzay Kopitar? Big time. Do you trust his opinion on things? It seemed like it, right? And you know what? I'm trying to think, just guys that would still be around the team. Yeah, but. Right?

Just hear me out. Hear me out. Drew and, and Anzee, we're going for coffee down at the beach here. We're going to have a little tete-a-tete. What's the deal? with this guy. We can't have, because you're going to get stuck playing with them, right? Like, that's the message Blake and Robitire delivering to Antsaint Coppitar and

Drew Dowdy, who want to win another Stanley Cup. Make no mistakes that drives those guys. Yeah, yeah. Fellas, give it to me straight. Because typically a guy won't shit talk a teammate, but they'll have opinions on a guy. And sometimes the answer is in the non-answer. Well, if it's not a resounding, no, no, no, no, we got to keep him. Get him the hell out of there.

Adios. Muno chachos. Because you could make, are we going to be worse on the ice? At this point, no. No, you're not. You're really not. You will do more with the cap space you gain than what he's giving you for eight and a half. There's no question.

The cap hindrance is nothing. It's not. It's one, two percent of your cap most of these years. Nothing. No. So it's money and some pride. it's less money than you're going to give them anyway. It's a third. But yeah, like the whole idea of like, oh, geez, like what a financial commitment.

Like you're getting out of a financial commitment. Yeah. You're making one. Yes. Like you're throwing, you know, 40% of this thing on the highway or more than that. Like it's, this is great. So you'll you'll be able to get a quicker, Ryan. The Oliver Eckman-Larson buyout with Vancouver. Because that was kind of similar, right? They brought him in. The deal had already been signed. But it was a, hey, look at the egg on our face. We're buying out this contract. that we just traded for this guy.

It's like, get over it. It's not working. More bad money over bad money. Just cut to cure if it's going to make sense. Yeah, the difference of that is there's what, three or four years left on it? And this is cut the full seven. But yeah, it's absolutely expensive to buy a amount.

Because it's double the term. So it would be 14 years. Yeah, the buyouts are always double the term. And depending on your age, it's either a third of the salary or two thirds. And you can't buy out signing bonuses, which complicates matters, which don't care about the length or any of it.

In fact, it matters a million bucks, whatever it is a year. Peanuts. The challenge will be that if what Dregger says is true, the best move might be the buyout, but you're going to get fired if you do it. That's what he essentially said was if they buy them out, they're cleaning house.

Whatever. If their opinion of, by keeping him doesn't mean they're not cleaning house. Yeah, certainly. Right? Like your job, Blake and Robitime might not be charge of the buyout.

Like if if, if the, if the ownership is questioning whether they can accomplish what they want them to accomplish that that conversation is happening before all this needs to be decided. Not after. You're not going to fire Rob Blake after. Yeah.

They do. The whole review of the whole thing. 10 days before the draft. It's just, yeah, it's, it's the tough spot because it's acknowledging the failure and it also doesn't allow them to have a bounce back here.

He can go back to 27 goals of six points. society and ownership is stupid about is that if you think that your guy is only going to hit home runs, well, or doubles even, good luck. Good luck. Because the next guy that comes in, he's going to F up. There's going to be mistakes. Yeah. It's going to be mistakes. We say it all the time. You said it yesterday.

There's 10 million bucks of dead cap on most teams. Yeah. I mean, maybe we're exaggerating a little bit. Yeah. Like the Canucks are spending $2.12 million for eight years to not have to deal with. the last four of Oliver Ekman Larson because he was making way too much money. He was in an eight and a quarter.

I guess, you know, Phoenix paid a bit of that, but like point being, you know, he wasn't a need that cap space to go, you know, do the things they needed to do. They got to sign the guys they've signed. They've got Heronic coming up as a free agent this year. Like, they're a better team

that you traded out of L.A. You can't get them back. It's over. It doesn't matter. It's on cost. This is on Dublaz's head. not well and watch like he he might be Alex Semen like you put this guy on one year deals he might be great that's the other thing you have to accept if he goes somewhere else and gets you 65 points you don't care I don't care

because I talk to my kingpins in the room and they're okay if he wasn't around better than okay I'd guess yeah and then the funny thing is even if you really want to buy him out if the cup goes as late as it possibly goes he's 26 by the time you can buy him out because I think it's a 48 hour win know after the cup filed.

There's 48 hour buyout one of that can't start until the cup's given up. Yeah, that, you need a lot of of the dominoes there. But that was the other part. It came up, you know, if the cup goes to the fire, you got to wait 48 hours. And by then it'd be just after his birthday,

so then it's two-thirds. But I mean, this is incredible drama. I don't know if we've ever seen anything like this. You don't have to see biots or guys 25-runder anyway. It's just so rare to see those guys flame out. It really speaks to how bleep this whole thing is. It is.

And just how seemingly wrong you could be. so quickly. And that's what it's right now, right? Maybe they're not wrong next year. I have is that Rob Blake's not wrong. We weren't wrong. We didn't.

Nobody was freaking out. This is on Dubla. He don't care. And if a guy will lie to your face, he'll lie to your face. Right? Like, I want to go to L.A.

because I'm going to be a hell of a player and I'm going to give it my team the best. Come on. No. You have to. if you say you're going to usually a trustive guy he gives you his word right like what would lead you to believe that he was going to go there and pack it in again i go as there's something off ice none of my fucking business but that's the only thing that makes sense and regardless of what it is i don't want any part of it yeah the all the skills that saw him as a power forward centerman with 60 points flirting with 30 goals three times they're all still there he's 25 that's not so it's clearly not the kings are screwing this guy like yes this all lies on

peer luk de bois but guess what welcome to being a gm rat you made that move you have to take the sword for it because it's going to limit our ability to win a cup it's not fair but it is the business i'm sticking up for rob blake because i think wrong blaze the hell of a guy and i think that this is a mistake that shouldn't ever happen because a player shouldn't be like that and if he has to fall in the sword guess what he'll be just fine Yeah. It'll be okay. Oh,

yeah. We talked about it, boom, like it's, it's Robitai, it's Blake, it's Nelson Emerson, it's Glenn Murray.

There's a whole bunch of guys that there's a, you know, they've forgotten more about hockey than many front offices have in terms of knowledge. That's, this is killing those guys.

Yeah. It's one deal. And you'll have enough connections to Winnipeg. Hey, hey, buff. Hey,

hey, guys have played there. What's the story with this guy? I mean, which again, you think they'd have done in the first place, but you would have you would have had in front of you it's Los Angeles it's not Columbus or

Winnipeg we he's a centerman he's 6 4-225 as a grump he scored 27 goals down the middle that's the whole thing if he's miserable and that's what he was doing imagine once he gets to LA once he gets here with our guys and our coach and McClellan's a great coach and the whole thing you can see how it happens and like I said with with dregs there it's the trade looks awful now. But yeah, Valardi was a first round pick and Kupari was a first round pick. But they had, would they have drafted? They'd have had Brand Clark by then, right? Brandt Clark and Byfield and Kempay. They'd have kept all of their top level prospects. Velardi couldn't stay healthy for about three, four years there. And that still was an issue this year in Winnipeg.

Like, that's not out of the woods. He has been one of the more injury plague prospects of the last decade. Like it's just, yes, he's a very good player when he's healthy. The Kings knew that. They didn't get to see it much. Yeah. Dubla DuBla DuBla PLD yeah you want to

to talk about tough decisions for Connie that for Rob Blake there and that whole team who Trump said anything

he's dealt with us so there's no let's just for you retro you are the flames

general manager under no circumstances would you trade for pure Luke Dubois

no I would never say no I have one circumstance It's the fucking buyout. You trade to get him to buy a whole?

10.5 million a year for seven years. Take up his contract? What's that? Like to trade for him and pick up his contract? Well, no, I was thinking more at homes. Include him in your team. Yeah, I know. I'm giving you the loop law.

You're getting him for pennies on the dollar to basically nothing. No, I don't want him under this contract no matter what. Yeah. If he gets bought out, if he gets bought out. Yeah. If he gets bought. Yeah. If the Huberto thing worked, okay, I'd take a stab at that.

If I could buy them out and get off of Huberto and save my and buy, yeah, yeah. You're banking like $9 to $7 to $9 million a year and that's 100% that do that's incredible. Yeah. But this, this organization doesn't have an appetite for spending my life. Is it like why would L.A. do that? They wouldn't. Exactly. So it's a pipe dream.

But if you're asking, would I take them? Yeah, I would take them on one dear deal just like Pinder said at seven at the right number. I'm never going to say never to a 6-4 defense or a centerman that has scored 30 and good. No. If he got bought out and he's a free agent. There you go. Yeah. If he got bought out by L.A.

Rhett and he's a free agent, a one-year deal in this type of a spot might be the best. No one's going to touch him. If he looks great, you can pump him at the deadline. If he doesn't, he's gone. If he hurts your team, your draft pick only gets higher. Like, let's be honest where this team is. That's exactly the type of like cut you should take. It's the Montreal Canadiens.

re-uping Sean Monaghan when he's hurt, knowing that if things go right, they can add a pick for him later. Yeah. Monty was a little better in the room. A little better. Yeah, a little better. Let's do the Pinder Report. The Friday edition of the Pinder Report. I think there were, you know, I don't know if I had anything else I was going to talk about. Well, I said, you know what? Actually, Jack's got a called up there, so I want to talk about it. We got the heads up. Now, Pinder, of course, is maybe the guy that should be telling us about this. But coming up on May, May 16th. It's right around the corner. It's a Thursday. Write it down, jot it down in your, what do you got? A ledger? A day planner. There it is. Have you got it written down May 16th?

Right now, May 16th Thursday nights. I want to go to Strathmore. Am I crazy? You're going to Strathmore. That's right. It is Origin Brewing our buddies at the Tap Room in Strathmore. it's the six Sutter Shooters Hot Stove Lounge. The man in the Hawaiian shirt is going to be quarterbacking a hot stove with the Sutter Brothers. Of course, the Six Sutter Shooters is a beer that has been developed and is in production and is available by the Goodfellas and ladies at Origin Brewing. And they are going to have a night with the Sutter's. Now, the Sutter's, it's their benevolent fun. And for years and years, they used to have the bar and red deer and then they've had the golf tournament and that.

raising money for their fund, it's the Sutter Fund, which if there's a needy cause and if there's something that's the right thing to do to help somebody in need, they're going to do it. And that's where the money goes. Tickets are 20 bucks available through Eventbrite. So if you go Event Bright, B-R-I-T-E and then just Google Origin or just search Origin, then you'll see it come up there. Or on the screen, you can scan the QR code and it'll take you right there. 20 bucks, all the money to the Sutter Fund, doors at six.

it gets going at seven. Limited seats available for that. Get those tickets. That's a hell of a deal. The beer will be good. The stories will be better. And that doesn't sound possible because the origin of beer is amazing.

Trust me. And they're all brothers, eh? Are we sure? We've done the DNA testing, right? Who won the, who wore what number? Do they look, uh,

do they look similar? The twins are, there's any resemblance between them? Uh, who were the numbers? The twins I have a hard, harder time with because I knew Brett was 12 and Daryl's 27. And dog was what?

Do they keep the same numbers their whole career? Do they have to switch in different stops? Was dog 21? I don't. I'm curious. I thought you were testing. Anyway. So that's the event coming up on the draft war, baby.

16th. And also it is, it's beer fest this weekend. Beer fest, tonight and tomorrow, the origin folks are going to be at beer fest. you stop by, ask about the barn burner blonde, maybe get yourself some, have a little sample, and then tomorrow afternoon, if you're going by, Dwayne Sutter, going to be hanging out at

the origin booth, I suppose, is what you call it. I'm coming out of the booth. I'm coming out of the booth. I'm coming out of the Louisville Slager. Village Honda presents the Pinda report. The 2024 Honda Accord redesigned last year chosen by car and driver magazine is the number one mid-sized sedan.

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Another crack at the stinking fire birds. Max McCormack! You son of a bitch! I don't want to. Are you seeing the same thing I'm seeing? What's that? Well, it's all out of whack on my end. No, it's clear for me.

Don't do that to me, Rhett. Maybe I'm twitching out here. Maybe it's coming. Red's been good knowing you, buddy. Got bird time. Most ever, your advice. They, of course, had their season ended in the playoffs by Coachella Valley last year, who went all the way to the Caldicap Final.

All right, let's take another look. Hey, they're doing some posters. Look at these posters. Do you remember around one? They had the little roadrunner next to the boot. Now this. Oh, yeah. Wanted.

Firebrattles. Which also must be AI or something. Yeah, I hope that's not. I hope the person that used to get paid by CSCC to make these still as their job. but okay, Dean, sure. Looks good. Whatever works. Either way.

Or the guy's still getting pain. You got an AI to do it and they just went a lunch break. Really? That'd be really smart. That's a rat's move right there. Asked you yesterday about Dustin Wolf what a good season looks like. Another central figure for the Wranglers and for the flames next year potentially is Matt Coronado. I'll ask you the same question.

What does a successful season look like for Matt Coronado next year? Of course, last year, full year of college, this year bouncing between the American League point per game and the NHL where he had three goals. it's minimum 20. Oh, 20's a big number. Love that. What the hell's he here for then? I was going to say 50. Just, eh?

Heimann did it. Hyman did not score 20 at that age. I'll tell you that for sure. He wasn't in the league. But is Coroner, are they as rich? Is he got rich parents? Oh, dear. You're going back for that one.

Buy a few. Yeah, how does that work? You just pay the scorekeeper. You're chisling for points? 20 would be a very good season. Would it not, right? you'd be like, yes, this is what you draft him for. He's arrived. What do we want? I want

20 goals. He should be given plenty of opportunity. The log jam at wing is a little interesting, but. Who's log jamming him? Well, if Sharon Govich is back on the wing, right? There's a lot of guys logjamming him, especially if you can't move Majapani's deal. Longs am I'm not playing

Manja Pani in front of Coronado for anything. Sorry. They did pretty much all year, but I'm kind of with you. Uska's an idiot. Oh, here we come. Here we just. I was going to strays everywhere. Oh, or AJ Greer on waivers comes in, plays his ass off, gets his leg broke. Who am I going to play in front of him, AJ?

Well, poor AJ. Okay, you guys run your team your way. Yeah, I'll run by my hat. Okay. We've all got hats, Ryan. We've all got hats. Rob Blake's hat's not responsible for PLD. That's what he just told us about his hat.

but I mean so what were the numbers this year for point per game in the A like that's a very very excellent rookie season in the pro ranks Zeri had 14 right 20

20'd be great yeah love to see it hey let's shoot for low so that we don't well but again this is another Pinder thing it he'll set the bar at varying levels and there's no real rhyme or reason. Well, I literally asked the question, what would a successful season look like?

I haven't said any bars. Oh, okay. Rett said 20. You said 50. So if we want to talk about who's being an ass hat, the guy that said 50 for the guy had three this year, probably can wear that. Well, and it was a disappointing season. Well, that's why I'm asking.

Really let down. Okay. Greer had more than that. Sure. It did. Frigan AJ had more than that. Yeah. I think

Marks from had more assist and he had goals. What a failure. You want to take a shot of anyone else? Is that who drafted him? Tarii, Connie? Oh, and we'll find too. There's bullets in the whole scum. Let's move.

By the way, it's a, yes, it is game in Calgary. Also, game two is Sunday. So it's evening tonight, late afternoon, Sunday. Go support them Wranglers. Go sports team. Go local sprats.

Last night, we had some bangers. Well, one. really. What a game. Zeros until the final minute of the second period. Willie Stiles, we Willie Nealander, as Joe Bowen called him famously, gets them up one-nothing on a, I don't know if it's fluky, unlucky, misplay, a bad goal, whatever you want to call it, it bounced enough Charlie McIvoy past a well-positioned sway dog. For Leifan goal. Yeah, unfortunate for Bruins and that made it won-nothing. The next goal really was the, so I've heard William Neeler doesn't really feel the pressure of Toronto in big games.

he's just, you know, out there playing hockey. This looks like a guy in men's league trying a new move. This is unbelievable. The goal, of course, was unbelievable. This is as he's tucking at five hole. He looks stressed red. Look at this. Yeah.

Got you. What a move. Opens him up. I don't get access to that camera. That's pretty good. Cameras are everywhere, right? You know that. I know.

Pete Diddy had like 250 in his house. Oh. Too many. That's too many. That's a lot. Trell. Big house. Big house.

There's a lot of camera jokes I'm not going to go to. Let's do more Bruins' Leafs analysis. We noted the pattern. We've seen this before. So why would we think the pattern is going to change? The Bruins have done this exact series twice already against Toronto. Saturday nights game seven should be fun. And yes, the drama should be through the roof because you either have a

Another, another first round failure with the Toronto Maple Leafs and a loss in game seven. Or you have the Bruins blowing back to back three one leads. This is Brady. Trinero. Chir, what chichinucha? Don't hurt yourself. Not going to work here anymore. Either the Bruns are going to blow a second straight through and lead or the Leafs are going to lose a six straight game seven.

Incredible cinema. It's true. Saturday. Be there. And I didn't realize because I said it yesterday. I don't, I didn't play it. Joseph Wall,

I just assume that's a European goalie. Big European goalie. He was three years at Boston College. So he's loving playing in Boston. This is great for him. He looks like he's got no nerves. And Elias Samsonov looked like a jittery guy that had eight coffees. You played in a bean pot?

You're playing a bean pot at any time. Love the Tidy Guard. Pressure. Pressure for tires. That's what Alec Manoa said before he went and blew up his crew in the liners. Got a lot of hot. Is it cool, Alex? Good start. He might play Sunday

against the nationals. We'll see there. Jay Fresh has got this on that six game, a losing streak for the Bruins and elimination games. It goes all the way back to, well, a game against Carolina. That was a game seven. They had elimination game against Florida. Three of them last year, lost all of those. And now they've lost two

elimination games against the leaves. Should they lose a game seven against Toronto on Saturday? You're talking about, like, if you'd bet against them all those games, elimination game, just bet against the Bruins? Yeah, like incredible odds. It's a one in 200 chance that the things that have transpired already have just based on what the gaming odds were on each of those games.

That's ugly. And on top of that, 13 seasons, here's a stat I tried to reference earlier since they won the cup in 2011. Bruins, best regular season team in the NHL since they won the cup. That is 13 years of hockey, Dino, 108 point pace on average. They're the only team of the top six with no. Stanley Cup. It's like we came into this series and you're like,

how are those losers, the Leafs, going to blow this one? And we're in game, heading towards game seven. It's like, look at these underachieving choke job bruns. Like funny how quick the narrative changes. And you might be wondering, where's the momentum here? You had a three one. So Boston's reeling and Toronto is going. So with the win last night, Toronto, the 65th team in NHL history to force a game

seven after being down three games to one. I like this. So game seven, after a three one deficit has been evened, 50-50 split. The team that gave up the lead 132 times, the team that roared back won tonight. The only way this gets better, I'm going to manifest this shit. Do it. Game seven. Over time. Double overtime.

Please, please, please, please, please. Yeah. And reason to think it could happen. I mean, 50-50. When you have a series on the line in overtime, that is that is peak hockey. I was just kind of surprised. Sorry, I was surprised to see that because I would have thought that the team that blew the lead. Chokes, right?

Right? You're on, you've got momentum. You're on house money. You're coming back. You've been down 3-1. I thought there would have been, but totally. Not so much. Okay.

We'll move to tonight's action. We have two games that if they go the right way, we will get more game sevens. Let's take a look at those potential games. It is starting in Nashville where the Vancouver Canucks are on the road for a game six. If Nashville wins, they go back to Vancouver for a game seven. The other contest tonight.

Oh, there it is. Look at that. Quinn. He's got the Sean Monaghan vibe, say? Like you'd never any emotion. Too good defense from there. Both those guys in the Norse Ballet? I think so.

How are we feeling about this? The Canucks have not looked like the Canucks. And the predators have Colton Sissons as their number two center. No one seems to care. I think that the Canucks are fortunate that the series isn't reversed. And if not over. C-Lovs will start game six, that being reported. I'll have it in my Betwebets.

I'll have it in my Betway bets coming up. But Dregor referenced that the Vancouver Canucks, they need to generate more. Here are the shot totals for Vancouver over the five games. 21, 18, 12, 21, and 20. That's not a lot, Dean. At 12 in game three, and I believe that's the game they won. It's a victory.

That's the one they had no business winning, or was that game four? Wow. Either way, game four, they would rally back. Yeah, anyway. Like 21 is the high watermark for shots on net, which it felt like when you watch Vancouver, Well, they were coming. They are the islanders and Demko's not, right?

Like they don't even have Dem. It's not like they're trying to sit back. No. This is a third string goalie. You're playing for you. You should muster some offense, right? Make his life a little easier, Rhett? Yeah.

Yeah. Lots of opportunities. Too time. Jack Adams' trophy nominees announced. Jack. Jack. Not a lot of last prizes here. We knew Rick Tocke.

It's heavy favorite. there. Rick Bonas was going to get some love. He's there. And midseason, Andrew Burnett was not going to get any love, but then he went on an 18 game undefeated streak, which bested the Oilers undefeated run and flung them from in the mucky middle bubble outside looking in into wildcard one where they now are in a series in round one. That's a hell of a job from Burnett, who last time he was in a nominee for this award, I didn't get a job renewed. Didn't get hired by the team he was with. Yeah, that's right. So was there any snubbbage, any snubbery out there for a coach that

I mean you could say Peter Lavia led his first year in New York but it never goes to that type of coach it always goes to the people that exceeded expectations these are the three teams that did that the best people were saying that the Oilers head coach Chris Knoblock because he had a Sterling record it's like yeah you're right but the Oilers kind of ended up where we thought they'd end up

if not worse like they should have won the division so did he overcome a shitty start that Jay Woodcroft loved him to? Yeah but he's an interim are we really surprised that a McDavid dry sidel Eckholm Hyman team was really good. No, we're not surprised. Who did more than these guys?

That's the question. It is weird, right? Because you have the Rangers who led the league with 55 wins. And as you said, Labelot, not there. Florida, 52, Dallas 52, Carolina, 52 wins. Never goes to those guys. Almost never. Yeah. Who exceeded expectations the most?

Who was shit and then wasn't shit? Who do we think was going to suck and they were actually okay? Let's give that guy. I think that is an indicator. Sorry, this is a lame topic, but that is an indicator of who's the best coach. It's like they're, they're helping their team overcome shortcomings. Yes. I have Fashick and I can just throw him out there and he gets me six shutouts in a month of, how's my coaching?

Well, to be fair, that's kind of what Rick Bonas did. Hey, hell, but go be the best goal. Good point. That's true. But no, we thought Winnipeg was going to miss. We were like, that team screwed. And that's, I think, why you had so much apathy in the fan base, the small crowds, the first half of the years because like, these guys are losers.

And then it's like, oh, shit, they're actually good. Huge surprise. Our coach must be doing a great job. Give them a nod. Interesting. You know what? Very good point by you, right? It's food for thought. It is. I'm hungry. WHL playoffs continue.

We saw the Blades yesterday in the Pender Report tie things up. Look at Portland and PG. Now the 13-hour bus ride before you factor in the border. The legs out of the Winterhawks. They're playing a two-three-two. So they played the first two in PG. They split those. It was 1-1 going to Portland.

And then now they're heading back to PG friends for the final two games of the series. PG's not out of this thing yet. They got a big win last night. Coogs! Big crowds there, finally. Jimmy play for her. Mark Lang. How long do you have to be in Prince George to not stink?

Like it's like, what, four or five days you don't smell it anymore? Like living in Brooks or something? What is it? Never been to Prince George. I've never been. You've never been? You played in the No. Yeah, we played one game there. They just came in. From Vic?

Yeah, that's right. I only played one game there, and I was terrible. Yeah. It's your old factory gland. It was all messed up there. The damn mill. They still had the wire on the sideboards instead of glass.

Beautiful. Don't need any of that. I'm going to sneeze. Happy 20th anniversary. Oh, we need. for this. Just hang on. Yeah, I'll wait for him.

Go. Happy 20th anniversary to the dream becoming alive and the Eliminator really getting his nickname heard. Conroy on the one on five four check there. Is that what that was? On that tenacious Conroy four check, I felt bad for Robert

Lang. He had no choice but to turn that puck over. Bob Lang. Hatcher's just standing there. What are you doing? What are you doing? Hatcher standing there.

You're watching the fellas? I was taking it in. I loved it. It was incredible. This was game six. This was the, okay, it was cute that they got Vancouver,

but this is the Detroit bleeping red wings. Hall of Famers all over. And Gellina for the second series in a row. Wins it. The Eliminator is born. And the dream became real. If you could beat Detroit, well, why couldn't

you beat everyone else? I was in the 300s. Huggins some 80-year-old man I'd never met before. It was exciting times in Calgary. Look at the movie that was coming out. Troy? Yeah. Yeah. Never saw it.

Saw plenty of ads for it, obviously, but never did see it. Oh, Kenny. There it is. 20 years, Red. It's a long time, Ryan. Just going to work on that forecheck. Is Connie trying to play it over to jelly or is he looking for a remote?

That's a sneaky, nice little play there. Just jamming. He's shooting. Yeah, it gets the bounce. It is good. If you were to take that team, just time machine that team, Robert Lang and Hatcher and all those guys,

look how slow they look. Is that woolly? I'm kind of going out with a stick and I'm kind of standing around. Well, and there were some guys hurt in Detroit. Was it Stevie Weil that stayed in Detroit?

Yeah. Got the puck. He had surgery. Is that you that did that too? Well, Jelly, had no problem putting that one in. I could have scored that too. And the other thing people are asking,

you immediately turn and throw your gloves. Is it a Daryl and assistant? I think it was my helmet. It was that Daryl. I forget why. Let's go back to that, Jack. They cut to the bench after the celebration and Rhett throws something at some staff member.

I believe it was the helmet. Yeah. It's very exciting. I don't. And there was a reason I don't know what it is. CTE. Yeah. See Bob Lang.

Look at Bob. Kind of hanging on to you. Now I'm going to come back out in front. Kind of back swat at it there and see. Darrell gave me the fist bump. Yeah. Beautiful. There we were.

Something I just had I can't remember what anyway. I think you've actually told the story and you've just forgotten. This is wild. I remember you talking about that on the old show. Whatever. Can't live in the past. Can't do it. Chelyos, Draper, Fischer, Hassick, Hatcher, Holmstrom, Hoodler, Hull, Joseph, Bronwall.

Can you rewind it just to touch? Lydstrom. All right there, that big bald-headed bastard, isn't that big, sigh. That's big sigh. Oh, makes me sad. When did he have the bare foot? Was that the Suprekin?

That was game five in Tampa. Yeah. And the end of the broadcast, everyone's raving about Brennan Evans, who had to come in and play minutes because, right, you were down for a bit that series. Other guys were hurt. He played a whopping 549 over two games. Big minutes. Two game total.

Needed him. Game three. All right, Misty in here. Let's move to something a little lighter, a little levity. We love Shaq. We love TNT. And the hockey on TNT is about a thousand times better than ESPN. Here's proof why.

Oh, Shaq Hyman. Shack Hyman's back. I was told to do it. I was told to do it. I was told. Shag Harmon is just retired. No one has more fun than these guys. Oh, Shaq Hyman.

Shack Hyman's back in the building. Did you watch? Don't be scared of my neutral zone. I was told to do it. I was told. This looks big. This was never small. That big.

Shack's massive. That's massive. That's a good point. And Barclay was on the pre-show. Yeah. Yeah. They hadn't been doing the screen in the goal. You're like,

yeah, that guy meets up for colleagues. And not to dump on the other guys. But yeah, the ESPN one is. Did we play the PK clip talking about his, I don't know. I feel bad for Steve Levy. He's got a good at. Yeah, but he's on.

Well, he's trying for anything. You know what? I think he's been put in such a spot. What else is going to do? Yeah, I'm kind of with you. Fail or. Yeah. I feel for the guy.

It's a tough go. Because it would be tough to work with, you know, ex-athletes who are just fucking duds who just sit there and don't say anything unless you constantly pitch fucking questions at them over and over and over. That's P.K.'s issue. That's definitely not the shit. I was on that bell.

That's not Pek. So we liked the segment, Pek. If you could not talk about your genitals on the next show, that'd be great. Okay, thanks. Good meeting everyone. See you tomorrow. That's what I was talking about this. Yeah, because that's what you were talking about.

P.K. Vermont P.K. Please. But yeah, Barkley and Shaq, those two. That's so special. I want to hang out with them so bad. Because they are too, you know, Barclay, but still, one of the best.

Shaq, one of the very, very best. Hallfamous. And they clearly like doing it. And they like doing it together. And their chemistry is, it's brilliant. I don't know how it, whether it was, it just happened to be, do you get, Barkley and then you get Shaq.

Like who do you get along with? Who would be somebody who would be, I don't know how it comes together. But it feels like such a small percentage that you would be able to find that and have it work. Because every night it feels like there's something coming from that show that makes you laugh out loud. It's the show. You, I don't care if I watch the game.

Yeah. Yeah. Irrelevant. Are they on? Stop. Yeah. Stop flipping. And as you've seen.

And, I mean, not so much Wayne. Wayne's okay, but Messier is one of the greatest to ever play, but he's no good at that. And Wayne is never been okay at that. Wayne's great when Biz is there because he gets a kick out of biz. Yeah. So they put him in a good spot.

Oddly has. That's the beauty of biz is that he makes everybody else have to be a little bit looser. Yeah. He can have fun with himself and everyone has, you know, he'll start taking runs at other guys. It's just, he makes it feel like a locker. And that's what Shaq and Barclay do on their own.

They don't, yeah, they love, they have humor and it's, oh, they're so good. And they can, and not everybody can. They can take a, take a joke. They can take a punch, right? I think there's a lot of those guys. They're not, well, I mean, you can't make fun. No, no, that's insulting. I wouldn't be able to, those two guys.

It's open season on each other. When he hip-checked Shaq into the Christmas tree two years ago or whatever it was, like, holy shit. and they're dropping stuff on Barclay all the time. Those are two of the greatest ever do it. Like, it's awesome that they're willing to do that. Behaving like nine boys, amazing. And as we showed, sorry, Kenny Smith,

they're doing it at 11, 12, 1 in the morning. Yeah, they're out on the east. It's not middle of the day when they're feeling fresh as a daisy. They obviously, they don't need the money. They're doing it because they like doing it. And it's clear they like doing it. It's awesome. Money's pretty good, too.

Oh, I'm sure it is. Let's go to Summer Short League Baseball. This is a collegiate team called the Tri-City Chili Peppers. They're doing the first cosmic baseball game. Black lights at night, glow in the dark, everything. No one has more fun than minor league ball, eh? Savannah bananas, now these guys? Tri-city Chili Peppers.

I think they're all trying to keep up now, right, with the bananas? Yeah, it's like, come watch us do dumb shit, and there might even be a baseball game. That's kind of where we're at with. with some mirely stuff. Get all banged up, right? I got no problem with these games.

Yeah, I don't know that I necessarily dig it or love it, but I like that they're having fun with it. Why not? Fun's good. Fun's good. We move to the bills being cursed.

Sorry, Rhett. Welcome, Chase Claypool. Canadian. Yeah, Abbotsford, I believe. It was a freak at the combine, had a pretty great, rookie year and then has cursed every team that he's gone to. Not the bills.

He's going to find a way McDermott will get through to him. Fellow Canadian, you get him, bring them in, Rhett. It feels like a Canadian city, Chase. It's like you're in Canada here. You get very comfortable. Do they have room for any receivers there in Buffalo? They have. Yeah, there's still got room.

A spot. It's going to be given an opportunity. A place you can succeed. Right. We'll revisit that. He was projecting, right? For about, yeah, five games, six games. He went from projecting to project all vomiting.

It was quite certain. Yeah, he's got a second rounder gave up for him from the bears, and he was useless there. Yeah, he's got a lot of. Well, you know who likes Chase Claypool, apparently? Chase Claypool? A big fan of Chase Claypool. He knows him well.

Yeah, it knows him well. Let's go to our boy Tim Nackie, trying to manifest the Millie. Let's go, Timmy. Come on, Timmy. Come on, Timmy. Come on, Timmy. Come on, Timmy. I'm getting a blackjack and bidding TNC in every Instagram follower.

I've got this 1,130,000 of your legends now, so $113,000 bit coming up. I'm dusty as fuck. I could really use a W right here. Ladies and gentlemen, on day 82, we verse a Sam Smith love child here. They talk about the great position. He could be the face of it with the here line this man is running. Please be good. We see Jet go 10 out.

15 versus a 9. You've got to be fucking kidding. We absolutely must hit. I don't. I go low. Twinny! Twin A! Twin A!

Please get them fucking 10. Go on my fucking 10 and tell me the job is done. 10 here. 10 here, you sandsmith. Look at motherfucking 13. Go low. Go chin, jean, jean, jean. Good enough.

It's good a fucking enough. Jesus. And I will see you tomorrow when we will be bidding. Even more. Hallelujah. Manifest the Millie And we will go again tomorrow With all the marbles on the line

Is that 226,000 New Zealand dollars Because he was pretty cool about it, right? Yeah, we'll do 57,000 dollars We'll do 62,000 dollars on today's hand Oh man Okay, we'll be better than even more 13,000

A little more juice to it now It would seem like That's a hell of a little weasel out 515 against the nine Jeez. Well, done, sir. Good for him. Boom.

We love your buns. We're excited about your new project, the boomers buns. You let everyone know when you're ready to do the great unveil location and the time of the grand opening and all that. But we did get some security camera footage of you on one of the batches with the new machinery here. And glad to see you recovered. Okay. So this is before we get it started, Jack, the machine on the left, that is one of those like a massive mixer. That's my dough mixer.

Yeah, and so you're just going to go check in on the dough for boom response. Your shirt, Dean. You know your shirt? Your shirt, Dave! Dick! Oh, you try not to die right now. This thing's not stopping, Dino. Oh, let's turn it off.

Reach and turn it off. It's twisting them. It's lifting him off the ground. You can't breathe. He is getting choked out here. He's getting choked out like this. Come on, stop the machine. He's got to be yelling.

Someone's got to be working. there with him well it's early when you're in early but you may just be by yourself uh tuf you're hoping that at some point please just shirt yeah just or some shirt oh it's twisting you now you're gonna lose an arm here dean i'm sorry and it's too tight to get your arm oh come on there it is yes it ripped oh oh oh there's the button right there yeah just turn it off okay so bit of a hiccup that's what happens with the augurs pinder but you don't stop them when they spin oh i see you get uh it's a near death experience yeah no it's you're losing limb that was rough who all the guy wants to do is make some buns

now why did we show this oh boom responds we're excited okay that's the tie in to the show got it it's you got to be careful when you're i mean your expenses just went up you have to buy another shirt but next time you button that thing up before you lean in a shirt or shirt Cup of your goddamn Ed was in it I've got a tasty cocktail for the weekend fellas let's go

this drink is known as one of the most difficult drinks to swallow originating from Japan it's called the live fish drink a single cup of this contains up to 200 small fish and every one of them has to be alive when preparing the drink

special care is taken in selecting the fish often opting for freshly caught young shiro uo or silverfish this is because the Japanese believe that at this stage, the fish's body isn't fully developed, reducing the risk of bacteria. Using a tall glass is customary not only for ceremonial reasons, but also to restrict the fish's movement, while also allowing for the silverfish to be visible. According to tradition, when the live fish drink enters the mouth, the customer must still feel the fish thumping in the mouth, providing not just a unique taste, but also an exciting sensory experience. After

holding it a bit in your mouth, it is meant to be swallowed directly as it is. It costs around 60 U.S. dollars per cup. The question is, would you drink one? Dito? That's weird. They'd call it the live fish drink because I really, how do you come up? Yeah, what's the correlation there? People can't figure out what it is.

They're not going to order it. I'd do it. Easy. I'd do it with you, Red. Do you need with us? Ready to do it? No, no, we got a couple boating. Your selection of used vehicles pre-owned?

No, no, no. no, no, no, no, no, no. Rhett, no, no, we're going to the boats, boats, boats. Boats, boats. Yeah, you can't do that one before the boats, Jack. We've got two boats in a row here. Oh, no. No, we can clear it. Don't worry.

Yeah, look, see, you got by that first one. No sweat. We're good, right? Oh, boy. Jeez. Ooh. You think all the electronics are shot, or is that fine? Rubber tires.

That'll singe something. Ugh. Not ideal. Not ideal. So I think you probably put the other boat at 97. That makes sense? Or 95? Get another boat.

Rett was trying to load while the waves are coming in. It's a tough one. I don't have. I only have one boat. Okay. We'll move from the boats to. Oh my God. I mean, Christ Almighty.

I love it. Let's get to the Ozzy. guys. Let's get to the Aussie guys. Nothing like camping in Australia, Dean. You got to love it, hey? Because there's nothing to worry about. Maybe a snake, maybe a spider.

What about robber crabs? They don't look small, Dean. Just completely taking over camp night. Yeah, it's probably not AI. It's Australia. Look at them. They're like bigger than their shoes.

They're just taking over. Trying to steal your food, being jerks. 50. Not ideal. World's largest land dwelling, athropod. Can weigh up to nine pounds. Nine pound crab, Dean. 50 of them.

Known for their impressive claws. Red, what did you do when you had all those crabs? Shaving and shampoo. Okay. Special shampoo or is it? Don't. I went along with it. Don't push it.

Can you just pick that up anywhere or do you have to? Let's go to a nice, now people trying to go viral by these, doing these dangerous jumps and tricks. What is this called? The parkour, I think, where you're jumping off the buildings, land on the other buildings and stuff.

Yeah, we do that here. That's right. So this is Rhett's kid. That is my kid. That's, Billy Bob. Double B, not enough velocity there, buddy.

You need a little more VILA. You've got the right attitude. Just a little more Velo. Now, back to the Aussie campers, Dean, because what was he wanting to do? He's going to land it. Is he going to, like, slide on the top of it? So it's like he's stupid.

The robber crabs left the campsite, Dean. That's the good news. All right. Because there's 50 of them. They got rid of the crabs, yeah. Perfect. I guess Rhett was saying you just like, take shampoo ball, score it all over camps.

campside. So then in the tent, you're like, we're safe now, right? You're the size of the thing. That's a spider the size of a dinner plate if you need it, Dean. Yeah.

Tourist in Australia inviting you to camp out. Camp out, Dean. Finally, we'll send off to the weekend from one of our pals on a bike. With the outfit. Rain boots, plaid shirt, hipster hair, mustache.

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Got to take his pills with some sausage. Is that what it was last week or what he told us about it? Pills. He's only, I got to take my pills, but you got to have food with the pills. So he had to go and eat sausage. He's hungry for sure because I'm hungry and it's two hours earlier here. Yeah.

Oh, I'm hungry for sure. Yeah. If I could have got that, uh, even despite the Pinda report. still lucky to have an appetite, which is decent, I guess. Could have changed your order up a little bit. What was the, what was the one we were missing?

Because I feel bad. It's okay. You'll see it Monday. Oh, I actually have it now. It's another boat video. Do you want to watch that? Oh, save for Monday. No, not really.

Also have a, a cougar. A rat would be into. What's your name? Monday you'll find out. All right. Susan Sarandoned. Let's do the great clips in box.

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It'll just be funny. We're doing the show. You see there backstage, Jack? What's going on? No, he's gone. Interesting. That's good my call. I'll give him a call.

Number has call control. To get through. He loves his call control. What number was it? I'm just going to guess. Huh? I don't know what to call control number of us. This number has called control.

To get through, please press 1. Oh, 1. That's an easy number. They must be busy. I want the answer machine now. What do you mean? Hello? Where are you?

Huh? Where are you? Hi, Red. Sausage? Food. No, not so. No, fighting. Fighting.

Fighting. Shoveler? Words were said. Yeah. Tres were. What did tears do? Shed. Shed.

Yeah. Yeah. Gosh. Yeah. And now, and then why, I don't want to say that because of people think you're serious. Yeah. I dealt with.

They will. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You did. Uh, goodness gracious.

Uh, we're in the great clips inbox. Right. Just so you're up to speed here. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. All right. This is from Sean.

Fellas. How much of an advantage do you think it is for Colorado, practicing, training, and playing 41 games at such high altitude in Denver? Do visiting teams have a hard time adjusting? They should be better conditioned than someone training at sea level all year. Rett, maybe you could ask Sarich or Kobesu, who both played there. Coppso played there? Yeah, Chuck, it was there. So was Jerome McGinlaw.

Just to add a little contest. They did have the best home record in the NHL this year and were mediocre. away from home. So that would build the narrative. Yeah. There is definitely advantage. But the science, I just argue with Heth,

Heth, Hethka, Hethka, all the time, because it'd be like, I feel like shit here. Like, he's like, well, scientifically, you know, unless you're here for three days. Then you get the white blood cell count up and then this and that, yeah. If you just in and out, it shouldn't make a difference.

Well, it does. The air is very dry. Very dry. From Calgary, it's got dry air? Even drier. Drier. Wow. And I used to play in Florida.

Much more dry. Moist, yeah. How'd that cup final going when you were in Colorado? Not good. Not good. 8-1, game two. I watched the highlight. I turned the puck over 14 times.

That's a lot. Here, Peter Ford. You're so young. Here, Peter Ford, have the puck and just take it. Stop them, Beezer. Come on. B's doing. Bees was like,

this 19 year old is killing me. This kid you got playing back here. I'm going to, I'm going to murder this guy. Doug. I remind my wife who hates this guy. Spinach dip all over her hair. Doug,

this is not Saskatoon. Are we in Brandon? Because I don't think we are. I think we're in Denver and we're getting it fed to us. I can't believe I played in a Stanley Cup when I was 19 and no. Hey, I can. Too dumb to know better, I guess. On another note, boomer, I was just talking to my kids about loving the show Fall Guy.

Almost bought a truck like that a few years ago. Heather Thomas has aged well. I don't know about the fact. I'm guessing she would have. I got to do some research on that, Dean, this afternoon, if I don't have to just be a pro. Yeah, might have to. Yeah, that's what it is, right? When you get older, then you start to kind of stuff that you liked when you were a kid.

What would it, that would mean for you, Pender? What would it be? Is there something that you would, as you get older, you get into your 40s and whatever? It's like, maybe making a little bit of money now. Maybe something, like for me, it was the bandit car. Yeah. I love the bandit car when I was a kid.

That was, so what do you, like, what would it be? Uh, sports trip. Because I was always tough when I was making no money to be like, hey, I'm going to go fly somewhere and go watch. I could do it maybe once every two or three years, but like took the boys to a blue jays game last summer. That was awesome. Yeah, not exactly what I was asking.

It's something nostalgic, like a, like a item or something tangible. It's a dork, though. That's. Yeah. No, if I saw like a signed Hawk and Loop jersey for 200 bucks, I'd buy it now or before I'm like, I can't justify that. Yeah, there'd be some, yeah, it'd be something. It's like, this is stupid money, but.

Yes. You know. And for you, Red, go back and buy that. Buy that Gaintermobile. I could have bought that. You should have bought that. Yeah. Talk about a win.

Yeah. Talk about things that have slipped through your fingers. I don't like things. I'm not a big thingsy guy. No. I don't have an experienced guy. I am. Yeah.

What's, if you, if you have to do one big trip or travel somewhere, what's the, where's the place you'd love to go to? I'm with you. I love sports trips. I would do a lot of sports trips.

I would, any sports trip I find cool. Not playing of the sport. Like, I don't want to do a golf trip per se, but if I did a golf fishing trip, I'd be okay with it. Yeah.

Watching a sport, a different sport I'd be okay with. I love the, Oshan. I would sail, I'd hop on a sailboat and cruise the world for the oceans. This summer, over the course of like a month and a half, you have Euro,

which is essentially a mini World Cup taking place, and the Summer Olympics. If you were into sports trips, Europe is summer. I don't know why, but the Olympics seem like too much. Could be. I think you'd probably speak your spots,

pick a couple sports, and then don't go go for a whole month, pick a week, go hit it. The euro I could absolutely do. I would love it. But I don't want to, I don't know what it's like. I've never been to a little. I don't want to run from pavilion to pavilion with 800,000 people.

It feels overwhelming, doesn't it? You know what I mean? At the Olympia. Yes. Yes. And a lot of events don't care about. We'll watch on TV. Yeah.

It still would be like that's one of those things. If you could ever watch a 100 meter dash, that would just be like, cool. He's crapping out over there. Yeah. Do you want us to ask you like you would do Dean? No. What would you? That's an old car for sure.

No, not at all. Old car. It's a truck that you didn't buy for him. Hey, this from Scott. Scottie. Okay, fellas, I'm not a huge believer in Wolf. Oh. My opinion is he won't become much more than an NHL bottom half starter.

but still a number one in the bottom half of the league. What would his trade value be? Could we get a high first round pick from a team that believes he would turn into something? Goalies are definitely voodoo. And look at the teams in the playoffs recently that have gone far with second tier goalies that no one has heard of. That's from Scott. Scott, nobody knows what any of these goalies are when they're Dustin Wolf's

and he's accomplished more of the stage than a lot of Hall of favors. Which sounds contradictory, but. at the end of his little question there, doesn't he kind of shoot himself in the foot? Or he says, he thinks he's going to be, Wolf's going to be a second tier starter. And then there's a bunch of things that are doing really well with.

Yeah. You know, I just think maybe just some positive wives would be a good idea. He's played how many games? What do we say? Like 25. 8, 10, 12? Let's maybe give it time.

Yeah. I don't see the rush to be at a conclusion about what he is or isn't. I don't know. Is there a bonus mark for saying, about eight years ago, I said this. Like, no,

like let him play. Yeah. He's got much better numbers than Markstrom since he, uh, got up here post deadline. Like it's, it's not a shot at Markstrom. It's just underlying.

It's been a shitty environment to ask someone to play nine, 10, two and a half in. Yeah. And this on the chat. Scott is an idiot. Oh, well,

I mean, he has his opinion. It's, you know. King, you don't want to hear what Scots would say about you. You don't want to know? Yeah, you don't want to know. I can't remember, well, this came in, obviously I didn't then. When I was back in Calgary for the holidays,

my parents gifted me some Barnburner Blonde and Sutter Six Shooters for origin. It's all long gone now. I live out of province except for one can of Barn Burner Blonde. I need to decide the special occasion with which to drink it. I'm thinking if when the Oilers get eliminated, or maybe if the flames move up in the draft lottery, but open to other suggestions you have. Thanks.

That's from Rob. Tuesday is next week. If the flames win the draft lottery, you absolutely have to drink it there and celebrate. That's only a 5% chance. So that means 95% chance you wait until the oevers are eliminated. And then there's also the chance that they win the cup and you still have this thing.

It's, we don't want that last outcome. A or B are both great. Yeah. A's best. B's okay. C is horrible. Yeah, I don't know. I don't, if you're hoping to celebrate with the draft lottery,

there's a really good chance that's just going to be a very anticlimatic. There's a 95% chance you're not going to crack that beer. It's not going to be very exciting. Yeah. And I fear that if you're waiting for the oilers to be eliminated, I mean, which is not to say that the barn burner blonde goes badly. It goes bad.

It's going to get real good shelf life. But I'd say just buy some more. Yeah, just get more ship to you in Friday. International shipping. We'll ship it anywhere. Originbrewing.ca. Go check it out, figure it out. It can happen.

This is from Tyler. Hey, boom, love the show, especially love the great clips inbox segment each week. I wanted to congratulate you on winning the world title at WrestleMania in Philadelphia, watching you defeat Seth Rawlins with the boom cabs splash was exciting. I'm curious as when you'll be making your first title defense. Well, you know, it's, you want to be one of those champions.

So you want to be a fighting champion, right? but um don't fight to lose everyone wants to run at the to be the man you got to beat the man right now the man is just basking in the glory of being the champ you get the bells yeah there yeah got the gold baby uh that'll do it for the old great clips inbox you can get in touch with the show you can also buy you can get into the chat if you'd like as well during the process but it's a lot easier a lot more of a guarantee to get into the into the great clips inbox if you even if you even Email the great clips inbox, the email address, great clips inbox at flamesnation.ca. Go to greatclips.com. Download the great clips app. It is, it's the way to do it.

You'll see. You get there. It's got your turn on your location. There, there, there, there. Oh, what's the wait time there? Oh, okay. What about here? What about here? Perfect. You're in line. If you want the ready next alert, they'll let you know when it's time to get on there. Hey, boomer. We'll be ready in 15 minutes. Get your booty down here. Yeah, that is how that goes. So whenever the shoveler starts up that only fans, Retz just starts crawling the internet over there. I don't know,

she's not even in town, right? She's with the other one in Philadelphia for the hockey thing. Yeah. So he, yeah, so he has internet trouble and then just leaves the show. Which, to be fair, is better than him fighting through that. But you just wish you didn't have the internet trouble. Well, you wonder being that it's, you know, two years. And he says, oh, yeah, I got internet trouble.

It's Friday. You're thirsty. Two years in, probably have some reliable internet by now, maybe. I don't know. Hold the set. It's probably the only thing he's missing. Betway bets.

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But if you are a live viewer, one p.m. Friday today, playoff primer for the Calgary Ranglers. Mike Page and Pike. Page, Pike, Mike, it kind of works in there. They've put together a little special for you as, yes, you'd mentioned it for the second straight year. Coachella Valley and the Wranglers are going to do this.

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Thanks to Mike and Paige and Pike for, for getting that together. Because there is, you start looking around, like you got Wolf, you got Coronado, you got Pelche. There's a lot of players who have had a taste this year in the NHL that are on that team and could be a big part of the future moving forward of the flame. Seasoning, Dean.

Yeah, that's right. That's right. And also big shout to our boy Jackie who will put that thing together. Is it premieres in less than an hour? And RJ. An arch, Arginator. Jack and RJ, the strength behind this show. There are two hard workers on the team.

Yeah. And us. And then there's us. So have a great. Oh, it's, um, red. Do you want me to hit this? Jack, yeah, hit the. Yeah, you're good.

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