Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Jamie McLennan Joins The Show + Ask Rhett | FN Barn Burner - February 29th, 2024

Episode Date: February 29, 2024

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Oh, hey there, buddies. We're in it. Hornberg on a 29th of February. Leap day. Leap something. Rabbit, rabbit. I don't think we should have to work. Why does you show up?

Just out of respect for us. Listen to hear me out here. If you're employed and you're a salary, yeah. You're not getting paid for this shit. So it's an extra day they've added on. It does feel like that. I'm all about doing less.

days, not more. Yeah, these efficiencies. This is some bullshit. This is some bullshit. Now, the astronomers and the scientific people and the, uh, the HR people will say, no, no, no, we've been giving you a third of a day off the last three years so that you could work this one. Yeah, but we know they're ignorant.

They're ignorant lying bricks. Yeah, like who were the nerds that came when, what they found out? We're throwing the calendar together. Yeah. It's like, okay, 30 and 31. dodgy to begin with. Like, why is one? The months make no sense to me.

That's a fair point. There's 12. Why not 11? Why not 10? Nice round. I mean, I don't know. And then all of a sudden,

somebody comes in, we're going to do every four years. We're going to throw an extra day into February. It's like a little settle down, nerd. And why do we have months of 31 when February is sitting at 28? February's got 28? Even the shit out. Get your shit together.

Whoever does this stuff. The leap day thing does make sense. The months don't make any sense to me. Because it takes 365 and a quarter day for us to do a lap around the big hot thing. Is that how it is? Yeah. So every four years they're giving it. You spin.

But while you're spinning, you're also revolving. And then are the most amazing things, Zach? It really is. That Neil Tyson deGrasse guy. Yeah, yeah. I heard him talk about it once. He goes, the fact they figured this shit out. Mm-hmm.

To that exact a figure in back. Some dude in Egypt. Eight thousand years ago figured this shit out based on looking at the stars. Some guy lying on the grass at the stars. He figured, okay. Yeah. Because it all starts with the,

what do you call the, you know, because you do the thing with the light, the sun, right? The sun dial. That's what I'm trying to do. So somebody says,

so if this starts here and then it starts to move and then by, it's back there again. It feels like about the same, like, I thought you're doing a shark fin for a second there. That's pinned report later. It's a really, really good shark one for something like that. This is what people tuned in for.

Oh, yeah. Not Tana trade. Did Tana be trade? No. Neil Tyson, the grass. We're trying to get a bond. Spin it around to Grass Tyson, but yeah. Whatever.

Yep. Same shit. He is smart, though. They talk on weekends. They have nicknames for each other. Yeah. He's so smart. He calls him Warren or Rhett.

It's kind of a thing to get. Well, I don't know if he's an astronomer or if he's ever, you know. Can you turn these down? I'm not sure how it works. But he is a highly intelligent and respected gentleman and joins us on the Tellus Insider Hotline. All righty. Enter to win one of six monthly prizes, including tickets to Calgary hockey games, awesome tech like AirPods, Apple Watches and more, no purchase necessary. All you have

to do is fill out a quick survey to enter. For your chance to win go online, tellus.com slash flames contest. And summer, he'll be very near the, you know, the Tellus lounge there over at the Saddle Dome. There is Jamie McLennon. Oh, holy good that. Our Wednesday, guess on a Thursday, look at this. Tutsis lid. Well, yeah, I got that on Tuesday night.

You get that if you eat a free bowl of soup there, I think. I don't know. So you get it for something. Honestly, I got to be honest. I've been listening. What the hell were you guys talking about? Like, it wasn't even making sense. It was.

It's February 29th, and we're trying to figure out why is there 29? It's 31 another month? 31, 38, 28, ordinarily. It makes no way. sense. But then there was a sundial, there's Neil de Grassy Smith or something. I'm not even, like, a lot of times when I'm in the waiting room, it's called or whatever, I feel like I can pick up on the conversation. I'm like, I am so lost. I'm not an astronomer. I took, I feel like I took astronomy in university for one year in junior, just as like a throwaway or something. I was not very good at it.

But there's nothing I can contribute to that conversation. Like sometimes you can jump in and Oh, hey, I've got, I've got something to add. I have zero to add when it comes to February 29th. This is where it all starts. We're all getting screwed. You're getting screwed to because we're working and it's an extra day and you don't get paid for. You're working one more day this year, noodles. You're getting paid extra this year?

You're getting the same. Did you call the boss? Say, listen. I never thought of it. I never thought of it that way. I never thought of it that way. So now I'm involved in the conversation. That's right.

I never thought. So this is a year that goes 366 days. That's right. of a lot of them. So do we need to bill a little extra? I don't know. I feel like you could probably slide that in there. There's some organizations where it's like, yeah, go ahead. Well, Bill, you know, and there's others. It's like, no, you were lucky to have a job. So there you go. Like, you just eat it and smile. So I might be on the ladder. I'll just eat it and smile. But the end of the day. Wasn't that a David Lee Roth album? He didn't smile. I think that was his first solo album,

something like that. It is. I think it was. Something like that. What's going on? Well, we're asking you. Look at, he's got the down in the flames room, got some, uh, electrolytes going. Is that what we got? Definitely need electrolytes. I will say that. Yeah, we need the, uh, day one update because you got into town yesterday.

It's, uh, you can feel the town buzzing as all of the, uh, old out of shape hockey players make their ways back, they're made back to Calgary. Uh, day one yesterday, how'd you manage? It was good. You know what? Caught up. Nice dinner. I went to Caesar Steakhouse and what you go with? What you eat?

What'd you have? I always just go with the filet mignon, butterflyed, little medium, medium well type of thing, which they got great food. The problem is, I'll tell you a funny story. I've loved Caesars since like the 90s. And I was playing for the St. Louis Blues. We were playing the Flames. And I went for dinner with a couple of the guys.

But Pierre Turgeon was like, we have to go to this steakhouse. We have to go. So I go with Terge. And we get in there. and he's obsessed with the garlic cheese toast or the cheese toast. Yeah, that's a banger. He had seven baskets. Seven.

It was a night before the game. I'm like, I don't know if any, I've never witnessed anybody, eat seven baskets of bread before a steak. But it was unbelievable. The baskets just kept coming and I'd like take one little strand out of it. And then I would turn and it would be gone. And he'd be like waving to the, you know, waiter like more and more. more. Yeah, exactly.

Like, so seven baskets of cheese toast. If you're in the Eastern Conference, it'd be like, we get here once every four years. I'm having eight baskets of bread. I'm not saying it comes a little more often. The funny part about that was a night before the game. After the game, there was a carrot because

we played here Wednesday and we didn't play again until like Saturday in Ebenton. So the coach came in and said, you guys win, you know, have the day off tomorrow or whatever. And we ended up winning and he said, okay, guys, curfew, nobody in before 2 a.m. And it's like, okay, that's a green light.

Who is the coach? That's epic. Nobody in before two. I think it was Q. I'm trying to remember if it was Keenan or Q or one of the two. But like, it was kind of like just we had a really tight team. It must have been Quinnville, but it. I was going to say, that feels more like a Quinnville.

That's a Quinnville thing. Well, I mean, Mike is, you know, I had Mike in St. Louis. I had him in Florida. And then I worked with him as the flames when I retired. He added me kind of to his coaching staff at the end of the season that one year. Like, Mike is a lot more fun than people. Like, he, behind the scenes, really funny, very sharp, sharp-witted. Everything was calculated with Mike.

You know, it would be, I would laugh. Like, it'd be zero-zero after the first period. He's sitting in the coaches room and I don't know where he'd just go out of hell with this, watch this. And he'd go into the room and just start like tear a strip off somebody like, ah, you haven't done anything today, you know. And then he'd come back into the room, be like, did he like that? And he would laugh.

Like he was, it was funny. Everything was calculated to, you know, try and get more out of the guys. So I was always, I was a big Mike fan from the way he conducted business. But yeah, I think it was Q that said, you know, boys go have a good time. And we did. and you know when you have a winning team you get to do things like that so with kipper in town the the ceremony goes on saturday right was saying yesterday's there's already talk because some guys are aging right it was 20 25 years ago guys are 25 years younger then uh maybe one night on one night off

kind of pacing themselves what's your your little gap night you know what's your uh your tell on how this is going to go i mean my my it depends on the individual but i i am making sure that Kipper is not doing anything Friday night just because you need him fresh for Saturday. The movies. Yeah, exactly. I mean, it doesn't mean that I won't be able to make sure and I'll be checking curfew on everybody. But I think it's more individual.

Like, you know, I came in yesterday, just kind of steak a little bit, laughs, a couple beers, that type of stuff. Like, I think, you know, it's a slow burn, slow build. And you're right. Like now that we're pushing 50, some of us are north of five. 50. Some of us look 60 and they're only 45. That'll be the funny thing. Like, it'll be hard in my speech to not kind of take a shot at some of the guys are on the ice, especially if they, you know, if Father Time has not been kind to them. So we'll see. I'm going to try and be pointed with my

remarks, but if some guy, you know, has put on an extra 50 that we didn't know, like he might be a, you know, a surprise beekeeper that we didn't realize, and I might have to announce that. Or 240 Gordy, as Redis reference. Now, Redd, what are you wearing? I am concerned with my entire dress code. I don't wear suits. I don't have nice clothing. I think these pants were from my last season of play.

Like, I'm in trouble if I have to dress up. Can I just wear a Kipper jersey? I think you should because that, you know, it can be loose. fitting that way you're leaving people to guess like what's going on underneath there if he fills it out if he doesn't fill out because I saw you you look good you're in good shape actually I thought when I when we had a beer in Toronto like we all go through phases you're skinny fat you know skinny fat all of that type of stuff you looked really good so I think if what you should do I got a funny story too and it was right when I first like retired I was again management or would

doing whatever, answering to Darrell. And randomly, they called me and said, hey, can you go to Abbotsford tomorrow to, you know, take a look at some of the goalies and do some stuff? And I'd gone out late the night before and woke up late for my flight, get to the flight, and I get to my hotel room in Abbotsford, and they got a game that night. And Darrell had come down.

And I think, you know, like all the scouting staff, everyone was there. And I took a nap. I get up and I go to go to the rink and I forgot my suit. So I literally just had what I was, I thought my suit was in the bag. I didn't. I'd open the bag. Nothing's in there. So I'm like an hour from the game.

Like, what do you do? So I went to Walmart. I did not know that you could buy suits at Walmart. And the funniest thing. So I go in, there's like a full thing for like 50 bucks. It's like a suit. All like the jacket, the pants, the shoes, the top. the shirt. It was like $49.99. And all I had, it was like large. And I was like my arms are a little bit like it was just L. So I try it on the pants are a disaster. Like I, like, I had to like use a belt and like wrap them around. I had to fold them up underneath because they were too long. The shoes were fine. And then the coat was like really short on my arms. So I didn't kind of put the coat over my arm. And then I had the dress shirt on and I put the tie on. So it was like decent.

So we're sitting in the luxury box that night and just kind of hanging out, talking about players. And I made sure to sit. And I was just kind of had the jacket kind of over, you know, my arm. And then I put it on. And Duane Sutter walks by and he's like, God, what a great suit. Yeah, it's awesome, dog. Like, it's great. And I was so rattled because I didn't want anybody to see it.

So he like kind of pulls on the sleeve. It's like, man, nice suit. I'm like, yeah, thanks. And I went down to the car. coaching staff afterwards, we were having a beer. It was Jimmy Playfair and Jared Bedner. And I told them the story. I'm like, guys, I'm wearing a, I'm wearing a Walmart suit here.

I forgot mine at home. They were dying laughing because they was just one of those things. So, Rhett, I think you can go to Walmart. I'm going to go to Walmart for Saturday. See if I could squeeze into a large. And you'd be looking at, you'd be looking at, is he, is he screwing with me? Or is he? No, he's, he's being honest. Because he's been Viking. That would have been a nice thing.

But he also lived in New York? I don't know. Yeah, I, you're right. Like at this point, I might have to ask Dogg is like, do he know or did he not know? Like, he might have been messing with me, you know? Yeah, I figured he probably was being honest. Did you tell him? Did you say, well, you know, you too could have something like this

if you played your cards right. Yeah, for 49. I think I threw the suit out. I'm not lying. I don't think it made it back to Calgary on the flight the next day. I just left it in the hotel room. Just the option you take right there. It's a disposable suit.

That's it, one night only. That's what it was. In Japan, they have vending machines on the street. and you can literally pull out like a white dress shirt that'll disintegrate by about noon the next day. But the dudes will get all piled up and like, oh, I've got to work. Pull it out of the vending machine and go.

That's the move. You can buy anything in Japan from a vending machine. Ask Retro. And I think, well, even myself. When I lived in Japan, I bought chicken nuggets from a vending machine. You watched it like cook right through the window and then it like dropped down into a little basket.

I don't know why I did that. Like, I don't know what the repercussions were, but I probably was on the John later that night. Who knows? But it was chicken nuggets out of a machine in Japan. And you know you've done worse. Oh, yeah. So there's that. So you're at the dome.

Are you prepping for the ceremony for Saturday? What's happening? Yeah, that's kind of a little dry run, I think. So I'm kind of going to get the lay of the land here a little bit and kind of figure out what's going on. And, like, I was laughing. So I think it was, one of them described, maybe Eric Francis or somebody, like, tweeted out, like, I lost a bet because Kipper actually landed in Calgary. I think there were some people like the over under, whether he was going to show up or not. So he is here, which is great.

Because wouldn't that have been the ultimate troll job, like, you know, just disappear on Saturday night type of thing. No, the ultimate troll job is landing and then not showing up on Saturday. Yeah. We aren't there. And the line is set at 0.5 Kippers. So you can go over or under. Point five is in the line here. Yeah, well, then you're right.

You know what? It's too early to tell. It's only Thursday, so we'll see. But yeah, so we're going to do the ceremony and all that. And, you know, I've got my show today and then we'll see what happens tonight. Did he catch any fish? No, apparently. First of all, I'm like, isn't it really warm out?

Like, are you scared to go on ice right now, like on a lake or something? Wouldn't the car, like, if you drive on a lake, wouldn't that carball land type of thing? We were minus 20 a day ago. You just missed it, buddy. Okay. Then, yeah. So I, apparently they drilled. They went in, but there was, there was nothing.

They weren't even scraping carp off the bottom of the, the bottom of the, whatever it's called. The sea, there's no sea. What is it? A lake. There's a sea. There's a river and there's lakes. Okay. So there was a lake.

Edmonton, too. Yeah, exactly. The North Saskatchewan ran through St. Albert, Alberta. I once pulled a shopping cart out of it. That was it. That's the only time I've ever. you know, done anything with lakes or water. You in bubbles, hauling shopping parties out of the water.

I got a great step over here in the rain. So you're down at the dome. The Chris Tanna deal gets done last night. No, I'm just, I'm not sure even who's around. But any sense of the mood, it's always tough when a, when a beloved veteran gets moved out of town. You know what? I ran into a couple of guys last night.

Just a little chat, stop and chat. And you could tell. in talking to them. Like, I don't know if disappointed. They know, you know, it's like, you know what's going to happen when it happens. It's like, oh, it's, oh, it happened. So now where, where do we go from here? You're talking about the players or management, noodle, sorry.

Well, I ran into a couple of the players last night, just kind of, uh, literally on the street. Like, hey, what's up? And so we're BS and, and like, that was the, the, uh, the sentiment was like, hey, you know what? It's news today. Uh, I think they have a day off today. They're doing some PR stuff. So it was, I think two days from now, so practice at Friday will be different.

That's when guys will come in and it'll hit them. It's like, okay, that stall's empty. You know, Penev's not here. Is that the beginning of, you know, maybe two more moves, one more move, you know, what's going to happen here? That's when around the trade deadline, when things happen, you're always thinking about it. And once it happens, it's like, okay, reality is setting in. What's this team going to look like? And the thing is, too, and Rhett, you can speak to it.

you still got to play. You still got to be a pro. That's the hardest part when a friend is out of the dressing room, like in instance, it is slightly like a death because your friendship with that person is not going to, you might be a lifelong friend with him, but it's changed because you're not going to see him every day. You're not going for dinner next week on the road.

He's going to be in a different city. So that's where you kind of mourn that relationship, how it changes with the person. You know, for example, like when I got traded out of Calgary, you know, Rett's a close friend, Robin, Kipper or not, but you're not seeing them every day. You're not, you know, you're not in the fight with them every day. Friendship doesn't change, you know, you'll still be lifelong friends, but it just changes the way you interact.

And you just know it's, yeah, it's bound to and you look back on it and every time it happens. I still remember the time in Buffalo where they did the same sort of thing the flames are doing, where they dumped a bunch of veteran guys, Chris Gratt and Stu Barnes, Rob Bray, all of a sudden you're going to the rink and those guys that you were kind of your core that you hung out with were gone and you're like, ooh, this is a different feel. It's hard not

to kind of pout and feel sorry for yourself. Yeah, you're still buddies with all the other guys. It's still a team and this, that, but it's that there's a big change. It's kind of the guy. And for us, we were all veteran guys at that point. We were kind of the sounding boards. Like Stewie was the captain.

Yeah. You got, right? All veteran guys that had A's or letters or at being there were important pieces of that room are gone and you're sitting there going, I've lost my sounding boards. Well, also too, the guys who come in, there's no guarantee you know them. There's no guarantee that you'll hit off with them from a friendship standpoint right away. Like the NHL is still a small community. You know, you can't,

a guy can't come in the room without knowing somebody who's played with them or knows him and all of that. You can make a quick phone call to somebody you know on that team. He's like, what's this guy all about? And chances are nowadays, you get a text from going, hey, you know, take care of my boy, this guy, he's good dude or whatever. But what if the kid you trade for is 20 years old, never played in the league. And he's, you know, he's scared to be in the NHL. And it's, it's his first process. And you're a 32-year-old grizzled vet. You're not going to be friends with this guy right away. You're going to try and help him out. But those relationships change. And there's no

guarantee that you're just going to hit the ground running. And that's off the ice. On the ice, you have no chemistry with this guy. You have, you know, you're going to have to learn their tendencies and their habits. So it is disruptive. We'll see how quickly they can get back to playing, you know, the way they've been playing because they played very well. I keep thinking about what Noah Hanfen's going to be looking like and people looking at him. Like he's dead man walking in that building, right? You've got nine days until the deadline. And everyone knows he's continually spurned the overtures of the flames on an extension. This guy's going to get moved. And it's like, oh, hey, how are you doing?

And to give him credit, like, he hasn't been playing like this has been bugging him. He's having a career year. We sort of think. But that's the guy where every interaction around the dome has got to be weird for everyone else. He's like, this guy hasn't had beer in a week. Yeah. And also, too, at what point do you use to protect the asset? You know, God forbid, this guy takes a slap shot. You know, he's boxing somebody. out in front of the net and takes one off the ankle or something. Like, you know, to me, if there's something that's pending, you got to be mindful because, and I know you can't bubble wrap guys, but if you feel like you've got a really

good deal on the table for that particular player, you know, does it, does it help or hurt you to have him continue to play? You're saying, Dean. They play two at home and then they go, they play Florida, Tampa and Carolina, three games and four nights, you're not letting him we get on that plane. I just don't. The day before the deadline. You may as well just stay in Calgary or fly where he's going.

If somehow there's no deal done, then you can meet us in Miami or whatever the case may be. So that's what two games, Saturday and then Monday. Yeah, I would do that too, just based on, you know, the scenarios, because you'd almost have to go to him. If he was coming on the road trip and his business, as usual, it's like, pack a little heavier. because you're not you're not coming back here type of thing. And, you know, I got traded when the team we were in Dallas, and I had to have our flight attendants who I was really close with. They actually mailed me some clothes, like helped out with the process because.

Walmart? Yeah, well, I couldn't go to Walmart in New York. You know, so it was, yeah, but they helped me. But like, you get traded on the road. That's what you're stuck with. and, you know, that was six weeks or two months to the end of the season. I wasn't going to see my place. And, you know, so it was, it's a big adjustment.

With Hannafin, if he knows it's coming, you have to pack accordingly or act accordingly depending on whether you're on that trip or not. This Tanna one is interesting because we've seen the trades. When Zedorov was moved, no warm body came back. But it felt like the room was going to be okay with Nikita leaving. Yes. And I think there was a bit of a pout factor with Elias Linda. home and you heard from, you know, tongue and cheek kind of garden a little bit, but

Blake Coleman kind of said there were some guys that didn't want to be here. Well, they're gone now. And it seemed like they thrived after that. This feels a little bit different. This is one of them. This is one of the guys. You got a guy that wanted to be here. It's just his contracts.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I'm torn on this because if he wanted to be here, wouldn't he have signed a while back? Like, wasn't there dialogue that kind of went? Like, I'm not, if you'd have to walk you through the time. Not TANF. TANF is 34 here. Yeah, yeah. The next deal is not the one that Connie wants to be paying him on.

Right, right. And you're right. Like, what TANF is a different situation, I was more leaning towards Hannafin because, like, you know, if Hannafin having a career year, if he wanted him to stay, he would, you know, if he wanted to be here, he would be here. With TANF, absolute warrior, you know, the guy you want in the room, the classiest, like, there's no negative about Chris Tannib whatsoever,

other than the fact that you do have to put your business hat on. and go, what is he going to look like three years from now? Two years from now. Yeah, exactly, at 36. So that those are the hard decisions. And maybe there's no guarantee that you don't give him an opportunity to go. And you look at him this summer on his marketplace and he comes back on a maybe a two-year deal or three-year deal, depending on what you're willing to pay at that particular time.

Once you have an idea what your team's going to look like moving forward. So that would be one thing I would say. And I don't, I haven't heard anything from the media. standpoint or him talking in the media as you know would he close the door to coming back you know I don't know like that that might be something look at that my guess is probably not

I think that he'd be one of those guys that would entertain that this is also the first kind of blow and it sounds disrespectful to Lindholm but Sharon Govich moved to the middle and took Lindholm's spot and they kind of moved from within they're not in a spot where they can just replace Chris Tenev

you can put somebody in that pairing but it's not Burlington comes into the top four. You know, it's not a reasonable facsimile. And then there's, there's going to be some, some, you know, some drop for sure. Yeah. This is a team that has won four straight games. They're still really very much mathematically in a push.

You can't as a GM. You're not going in there and saying, guys, you know, keep going. It's just kind of a, it's got to feel like a kick in the stones. Even if you knew it was coming, you're ready for it. It was like, shit, you know, we're so close to getting in. And now Hannah, Hannah, If one's going to go too. Like, if you're Coleman or Codd, you're like, yeah.

Yeah, but you know, at the end of the day, both of them have won, both of them understand this game. You've got to be a pro. Last I check, I always say this. I come back to it. First in the 15th, you know, it doesn't matter. Like, you get paid. Money goes in.

You've got to be a pro. And yes, you're right. To see a guy that walk out the door that you don't have, he's not getting pushed out the door because there's a kid that's sliding into that. spot and you've got to make room for them. It's a business decision. Hanifin's going to be one. I don't even know if, excuse me, if Markstrom's still a player or not in all of these talks. Like, this team can look a lot different a week from now or 10 days from now, you know, wake up and there could be multiple players go out. Or maybe the asking price or the deal's

just not there for some of them. And, you know, obviously Hanofen, you've got to sort out. But other situations. You know, there might be a team that floors you for a player. You're like, oh, I didn't realize that guy might be available. And maybe Connie has to entertain it. So I think teams are going to have to be extremely creative heading into this deadline now. Because it's got to be money in, money out, or you're going to have to use third parties to kind of, you know, we'll call it launder money through. New Jersey, you got a fourth rounder for basically 300 grand a real salary. That's, that's a tidy bit of work that they were the third party in that tent of deal. Right. Right. That's, I mean, that's what you're, that's what you're looking at, too,

is, you know, it's interesting Jersey. So if, you know, if Jersey's still looking at a goalie, are they looking at UC Saro? So they're looking at, you know, Jacob Marksum. I did the national game the other night, hence the Tutsi's Tuk. And they've won six in a row. They look like, I think they might get that last spot. Like they're a pretty darn good team. What they are is balanced. Like their D are really rock solid. Like, that's, what do they do with Kerry? He's up this summer.

And that's a really sneaky, attractive defenseman, because he's a right shot guy, and I think he's sort of come into a little more prominence behind all those epic Nashville blue lines forever. I would, you know, if I'm Toronto,

if I'm Edmonton, I'm looking at him as a potential upgrade, a guy that can slot. I don't know what his ceiling is. Yeah. Is it four or if he's maybe a five or, I don't see him as a,

a two type of thing. Sure. But, you know, if you're Edmonton, are you looking for an upgrade on Cody Cici to push him down, right? So maybe- But Nashville would move them if they're in a playoff spot. We saw it last year, right? They traded and got in. I think they would. Plus, this is what

it comes down to is business. You know, like, this is business, and you've got to get, you don't want assets walking out the door for nothing. So if there's no extension that's reasonable in place, you've got to move the player. And, and, or, if you're comfortable enough and he's like, hey, let's just kick the can down to this summer,

but I want to stay here, we'll make it work. I just don't believe in that anymore, though, because things change so much. Like, to me, you have to buy the deadline, if you've got an expiring asset and he's not coming back, you've got to move him for something. Ottawa's doing, like, I do these Ottawa games, like, Ottawa's got some stuff on their plate to deal with, not just the injuries of Josh Norris and Shabbat got hurt the other night. Like they're in one right now again. But like got Teresenko, Kubolique, you know, Travis Hammondock really, you know, he's been a healthy scratch.

He was in the lineup the other night and, you know, had a really kind of a tough gaff where he fell down and Yosi went in and scored. And that was the backbreaking goal, right? So, you know, there's some big, big decisions to be made on a lot of these teams. I like Conroy's quietly done a pretty good job here. And you could debate what the return is. And Frank Zarevili had it. You can want to hold out for a first, but it sure feels like it was a second and, a prospect or something.

A kid that was a second two years ago, right? This is a second round pick for Chris Tanev. And obviously there was the seemingly the recognition, which is why it gets done a little bit over a week ahead. But we sat here when the job was first his. It's like, you've got a lot of work to do. And we've talked about us. How are you going to get all trades? Are you going to wait until the deadline?

And then it's Lindheim. How are you doing all this? Please chip away at it. And it seems like everybody feels like you did well in the Lindholm deal. jury's out on this one, but you get a second and a goalie deals a win. Seemingly, a player, they're, they're high on to a certain degree.

So now you've got half and to do in the next eight days, nine days. So he's, I think he's done a, I think he's done a pretty good job here. I think so too. And the one thing I've liked, and I, you know, us being in the media, I've talked to my insiders at TSN and you're like, you know, why is the marketplace?

Like, why is it kind of stalled? And they're like, you know, Calgary is kind of, kind of driving the bus. And, you know, everything's kind of going through Calgary. And I'm like, great. I like the fact that Connie hasn't folded to the pressure of the marketplace. You know, he's a rookie GM. Guaranteed there's managers that are trying to, you know, sneak away or maybe win a deal here

or there. You're always trying to win deals. But it's more, he's not getting bullied into a situation going, got to move this player, like marketplace. If not, you know, I'll move on to player. X. And he's like, yeah, go ahead. Call me if you want my player. Like I, I think Connie's done a really good job, like just kind of wading the marketplace out. And he thinks maximize. You know, if that's the best deal that you're getting for Chris Tanna, he's obviously studied the market.

So if he, if he moves them to Dallas, guaranteed the other players that were in on TANF, they weren't offering as much as far as I don't know who would have been in, but I, you know, it's rumored in Toronto. I'm sure Tree and Connie talked a lot about it. Tree probably wasn't offering what Connie got for Tannis. He didn't. He doesn't have the second round pick, right? That was the whole thing with the leaves is they didn't have that second round

pick. Well, you know, it feels like a guy that Connie's keyholded in on that he really liked and that the team has been fond of for a while and he's had a lot of staff watching him. Like the ceiling is not high here, but the intangibles, the character, like Connie sees something here. This is

not a well-regarded prospect relative to a lot of top prospects around the league. But I bet you Connie's much higher on him than the consensus. Which is fine, because I don't know when he made the to Foley trade, like who was high on Sharon Govich? Sharon Govich. I was going to say Sharon Povich, you know that. So who was high on him?

You started looking at his hockey DB going, yeah, a couple years ago, he scored 20. He's been a nice bit. What is he? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, like, what is he? Well, you give him some bandwidth to grow. And that was the one thing. You got faster. You got a guy who could produce on the power play. And, you know, he's a versatile player. So, you know, it's what the manager sees or envisions the fit and how the pieces of the puzzle fit for his organization. So I like the moves. You know, they've got to get Kuzmanko going. Like, I think he's a guy that is still in a bit of an enigma. You know, he's a, I wouldn't want to say one dimensional, but he's more one dimensional than. not. And I think, you know, you get him into some structure, you get him comfortable. Maybe he's a guy you can turn into a trusted everyday player. You know, it's not just a guy who could put the

puck in the net, but you need, you need more, some intangibles. So I think there is, Connie's done a really good job. And we'll see, you know, what he continues to get for some of these players. So just the three trades he's done this year. He's added a first in the Lindholm deal, a second in the Tanev deal, a third that is in both the Zedorov deal. A third that is in both the Zedorov deal. in 2026, a conditional Dallas one, a fourth from Vancouver that can turn into a third, a fifth from Vancouver for Zadora. Like he's almost added a full draft class here.

Never mind the prospects attached, the players here. Like he basically has two draft classes this year to work with. Well, and the other thing, too, I was asked by a manager the other day about like some of these players. These are currency. You can get to the draft and you can move them for live bodies too

if there's other teams that don't have those picks. So you can go to a team that's either, or, you know, needs a pick in that round and go, I really like this guy. So now you start picking at their rosters because there's going to be teams that go all in here at the deadline and they're not going to have picks. So if you've, if you've banked a lot, I would say, you know, Montreal is the same situation. They're banking a lot of, you know, currency. You're going to get the draft to the draft.

You're going to be able to sell some of that for live players to fill out your roster again. Or you might be able to steal a player based on a cap crunch somewhere else. from the organization. So I think Connie's done a really good job. But it's, again, it's more on his time frame, which has been impressive for me. Do you know if the Flames, have they hired an orchestra or anything

to start playing music if you go too long on your speech? Kind of like at the off. Oh, right. Got the hook and some. Oh, that's a hook. I'm going to show you something. Buck drop. There's the ice.

I've been pulled enough on this ice time. You just get the look. You know, that's shit. It's happened again. They might have Daryl come out and pull me one last time just for fun. One of those huge hooks. I love it. Yeah, the big hook.

Now, I don't know what the parameters are. I mean, I think there's an over-under if you had a betting company of how long Kipp or speech is going to be. What would you set the line at? Three minutes. That feels like the under's a safe bat. I do. I would go under, under, under, under.

I don't know. You know him, too, is like English speaking a second language, too, right? So he's going to, yeah. Yeah, and he might, you'll slow the process down a little bit, like just kind of, because we, I, I didn't know this. I heard, did Cellio's talk for like 40 minutes the other day? It was a big one. It was a long one, yeah.

Somebody told me last night it was like 48 minutes or something. And I was joking last night with Kipper. I said, did you hear it like that? He goes, Jamie. Like, that's not happening. That's the expect. That's what they expect now. Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, to Mika's personality, everything, it'll be short and sweet. Thanks and some people and move on. And, hey, nothing to see here. I'll see you guys in another 20 years type of thing. Like, that'll be Mika in a nutshell. But I'm looking forward to it. I still haven't finished my speech. I'm kind of, I'm about 60% done.

I'm, like, struggling with. how to fit. It's not a roast. I know. That's the problem. Yeah. It's going to be women and children there, noodles. Well, and that's the thing.

Like, I'm not going to be George Costanza and swear in my speech, you know. It wasn't it a Constanza that swore at like a wedding speech or something? Like, who swears? Like, you got pulled. So I'm not going to, I'm going to try not to swear. Who knows? But it'll be fun. I'm looking forward to it.

Has it hit, Mika? Or is that all going to be on Saturday? Because I don't know that he, because he's such a more introverted. quiet guy. Does he understand the magnitude of what he means to the city? I think so, but it's weird. Like, you were sitting at dinner last night, like somebody came up and asked for a picture and he was just kind of like, oh yeah, I forgot. That's what it's like type of thing. Like I think he just goes about his thing. But I think there is, somebody said about even the guy at Caesar's last night said, like there's a buzz about the city, which is cool.

And I think, you know, the, I think it's really important that, you know, he embraces it because this is, I think he wants to embrace it for his kids and his family. His brother's here, which is really cool, his brother and his son. But it's, you know, his boys, like, keep in mind, you know, R.O and Oscar, like, were just kids. Like, Oscar was just being born and, and RO was, like, six, you know, or whatever it was. Like, they didn't grow up, like, watching their dad play in the NHL. So it's got a neat. It'll be really, I would imagine, neat for them to see like 20,000 people going nuts for their dad. Like I think that's, that might, you know, he's not, Gipper's not super emotional, but that might, it might make me emotional.

Like it'd be pretty cool. I think it's awesome. Yeah, well, you'll do great. He'll be great. And it's, I said it yesterday, we'll let you get out of here. When if Jerome McGinla gets retired, the whole hockey world kind of watches. Everyone knows Jerome, Canada, gold medals, this whole thing. All fame.

This is very much just for the pocket of flames fans who are here and watch that run. They were here before he showed up and appreciated those 70 starts every single year. The league isn't really, I don't think this is much of a blip on the NHL radar, but this means a ton to flames fans. I think that's cool. It is. And I had this argument, maybe arguments in the wrong word, and I obviously super biased. but I've always felt

the Kipper like had a Hall of Fame career even though it's not like you know if you don't fit I don't know what the criteria is because you don't know you've like Lanny could tell us because Lanny's in those rooms

It's not allowed to tell you I know but you know what I mean like it just it's like you look at it I've always had this argument about Hall of Famers at some point where you one of the best in your craft so because you didn't have to be

the best because, you know, like, name a name, like Clark Dillies, like, was he one of the best or just was he the best? I think he was one of the best. So you look at players like that, Cam Neely. Rogi Vashon. Rogi Vashon. And then the other thing is, were you special? Like, were you like, Rhett, you could speak to this. How many special players did you play against you? Were you like, before the game, you circled that guy and the whiteboard is like, that guy's going to be a problem. Like, Kipper was a problem for other teams because. For seven years. was special. So that's my criteria. And so it puts you kind of on the cusp. And I know what, like, I feel like the

hall hasn't done a good enough job putting goaltenders in. Now they're going back. He quit too soon. I agree. I think he would have made it if he had just kept playing. But he hadn't got frustrated. But he still might because again, like, we just saw Vernon go in. I just think that he, I think that if Kipper, because go ahead and look back at Kipper's number when he retired. He was extremely affected. He got nicked up his last year and it was like it was me or Keenan is kind of the word

and they kept Keenan. No, it was Hartley. Sorry, my apologies. It was the coach is gone or I'm going. Tiny hands. And he could have went to Toronto and helped them win and he was like, no, I'm not going. It's who he is and it's fine. But to we've talked about this before.

I think for Kipper and what making the hall, all he had to do is keep playing. And he got there because his numbers would have been just. Yeah, I agree. But then I was looking at it because I kind of got mad yesterday. We had spirited debate and I was like, Cam Neely was cut short because of injury. Yep. Lindrosse, same thing. Yeah, but Lindrosse was like super special. Like he was like ridiculously generational special. Like Cam Neely was a hell of a player. And I was like, did he make it into the Hall of Fame? I believe he's a Hall of Famer. Correct? Yes, he is. And it's a shortened career.

He wasn't a point of game guy, but he was like a power forward and great, you know, like, but a very special player. Like, again, I can't draw a direct parallel between Mika Kippersoff and Kam Neely, because there are different positions, all of that. But are we going to, does Kipper get hurt because he decided to retire early where Kam Neely was forced to retire because of his knee? It doesn't matter. They still had shortened careers, technically on paper.

For seven, eight years, was he not the best, solely on the planet? Like I was there for me. Vesna votes every year. But that's the thing. So that was, that's my criteria is were you one of the best at your craft and were you special? Do people have to worry about you? He checks both boxes for me. I think you're and I agree with you about goaltenders. We'll let you go here because I know you got to go. Mike Vernon wins two Stanley Cups, a Con Smyth trophy, a play and again, given his stature that that's a special goaltender and it took till last year for him to get in.

Rogi Vashon got in the last five, six years. Like, it might take a long time. Like what I mean is the body of work was there and has been there for a long time. I don't think Rogi Vichon even has that kind of, that kind of, but Mike Vernon deserves to be there. That's two cups to Kahn Smyth and plenty of wins. And it took them a while to get there. I think the argument is Kujo, like Curtis Joseph, you know, has got a lot of wins.

And my one, my test pilot, and I want to be on record for this. is 10 years from now through another generation, Chris Osgood, because if you look at his numbers, wins, cups, like there wasn't business, though, that's the difference. Yeah, what you, I think what you said, you've got to go with this. It can be a summer conversation. What's the approach from the hall for goalies, right?

Like you said, like, they're so important. You can't put every goalie, like, say there's 10 goalies this year. lights out and there's 10 goalies in this era that are really good. Well, do they put 10 goalies in? I don't know. You know what I mean? Like there's probably more space for goalies due to the fact of how important they are to any team success, right?

But that, I feel like right now, the haul is trying to catch up. Yeah. They're underrepresented right now. Right. So it's like, hey, now it's time for Barrasso. Barassar was all a famer, you know, the day he stepped out of the league. You know, Vernie goes in. obviously Lundquist, but it's like, you know, they're slam dunk ones, and it's, I feel like they're going,

oh, we miss something here. It's like we need, I argue with people at TSNN all the time. We do these top 50 lists, and it always starts, okay, who has the most goals and the most points. And then, oh, we got to slide a defenseman in there because we don't have a defenseman in the top five. Oh, in the top 10, we forgot a goalie. So let's put in, like, there should be, if you're going to have these, if you're going to have like a consensus, it's got to be all. players. What's happened is is players, they look at goals and assists and, you know, point of game, all of that, cups. And then, oh, we forgot about goalies. Well, what is that criteria? Like, that's where I feel like they're trying to catch up. Like, it is. It's ridiculous.

It does feel like the, this, you kind of go, okay, for a player, a thousand games, 500 goals, cups. Is there any kind of hardware aside from a lady Bing? Because we don't care about that. You know, Selke's, that sort of thing. I don't know what, what is the, the measuring stick for goalie. Well, you made a great point. Like there's a big body of work for a solid goalie, and then there's a guy that with a shorter career that at his prime was much better.

I don't know how they weigh those, because that's Mika against a lot of the guys you talked about. In his prime, I'd take Mika over almost to anyone. But that's where, you know, how short is short? Because there was a, there was a stretch of 18 months where Tim Thomas, if you look at his body of work, it was ridiculous.

One of the best ever. And he didn't show up until 32. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And he had bad gear and he was like, you know, this weird like, 930 every year. Yeah, like just like that stretch where he won the Vesna and the cup and the concept. Like it was just like there was a stretch of 18 months where he was the best goalie on the planet, arguably. And it was like a golfer. Yeah.

But it just so he's come and gone and, you know, rumors, I don't know what this guy lives in a bunker in Colorado. I don't know what this guy. He's a goalie. So who knows? All of us are weirdos. but it's, you know, that guy had this amazing, but that was a Hall of Fame stretch. You didn't have a Hall of Fame career, right?

So I don't know what the argument is, but there is some, maybe it's a summer argument we'll get back into, but I think. Who's paying for dinner tonight is my question. That's the only thing, like, barn burner, aren't they? I don't know.

Yeah, just throw it. Does Barn burner have a credit card? We'll test it out. Speaking of Cam Neal, if that is C-Bass. Yeah, just put on C-Bass's staff. Who's got the biggest career earning? number. I feel like the big card at the table pays. That's not Barnburner. Yeah, I mean, it definitely will not be me. So it's, you know, if Jerome, yeah, but the problem is, and this is what I have

with a problem. Just because a guy made $100 million in his career doesn't mean he walks in and the check is automatically his. Like, you know, everyone works for a living or should work for a living. Like, if you're going to come and eat and drink, like get off your wallet. Like, I just, it bothers me where like the bill is like right around the corner and all of a sudden guys are like you know kind of feels way too specific feels way too on the nose fired here Jesus you just can't have like freeloaders that's the problem like you don't you don't go out knowing that's going to be free drinks in a dinner you go out going I can't wait to hang with those guys who I haven't been seen in 10 years 20 years like that I'm pumped for that but I want what I wanted to do was stick one of those

freeloaders that we know there's a few that float around it would be nice to just oh hey what happened here yeah i i can't like what'll happen is those those people like they they see it coming they're too smart they go to the washroom they go to the bathroom and then it's out the back door and then they join you at the bar 30 minutes later going hey i have to take a call you're like okay doesn't happen does it no it but i am excited i don't know what i don't know where we're going we're going to figure it out but I think what it should be is the bill comes and you all put a bunch of money in and you just move on with life instead of like looking at each other going or sliding it into direction and where the the big boys are sitting at one end of the table that make the

most money usually the drunk guy oh yeah I got it I'm having so much I love you guys I once played with a guy in junior and he signed with Chicago that night and his agent called and he's like, I just signed with Chicago. Drinks are on me. He had no money. You're not getting a signing bonus wired to you into your account. He had to borrow money from me to pay the bill that he bought drinks for the whole bar. Idiot.

Esmerald is in Edmonton. Vodka paralyzers. Oh, yeah. No, vodka 7 lime juice. That's what it was. 100 and 0. In the mini pitcher, yeah. Exactly.

We are a weird species. Everyone did it. Be safe out there tonight, noodles. Be safe. Be safe. Big day on Saturday. All right, guys. We'll check soon. There you go.

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of the kids, right? We're all at an age now. We have kids and it's... You can't pretend that it doesn't matter. Yeah. It's not for you could put on a brave face, but the pride you would feel as a father to have your kids there and for them to

experience that and to make that special for them is pretty cool. And again, maybe more so because his kids didn't get to see it. Yeah. Like I have no idea. kids didn't see me play hockey either. So, and my jersey's not going in the raft. But if your kids have been with you, you had kids young and they were with you through your whole career.

Hanging in the room. They experienced. And you know what else? He's not, he's not celebrated his career at all. He's driving the Zamboni at the local rank. He's fish. He is as low-key down low, a dad as you could have. There's no way those kids can appreciate what he meant here.

And so Saturday is the chance. to do that. And you know what? At the end of your career, nine out of ten players will be jaded because you don't really get to pick the end on your terms. And for for Mika, it was probably, yeah, like, you know, your body fails you or you don't see eye to eye with a coach. And it's very business at the end. That's why these things come to years later. You don't retire a number six months later. Like we're talking a decade here. And he will be reminded how much he was beloved in this city. I can't wait for the videos. Oh, man. Just post to post, full flexibility. like should be an empty 6x4 tapping on the back door and Mika somehow gets up.

Well, there was one day that I saw and Lombardius was on the call where he dives across and makes the paddle. It was Vancouver. I'm trying to remember who it was that shot it. And there's no, there's just, I mean, is it, is it skill? Yeah, but it's pure desperation. Maybe you make it one every 20 or 30. But that was the one and everyone saw it. And it's just, it wasn't an outlier.

He was making those kind of saves. More often. seemingly every two or three games, you'd be like, holy, did you see that? How did he get us off the other night? You'll be talking about it. So Saturday at the dome. Now, what is the doors open at five for the eight o'clock game? Tuck drop at eight.

Ceremony starts at 620. Good. I know they only allowed two beers per, but that's a long ceremony. Maybe go stock up and do a second run. Yeah. I'm excited. I'm going to need shades. I'm going to get emotional.

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Yeah, stupid, though. Web 29. How are we doing? Very dumb. And again, sheep, people allowed it to happen. So he said, we're going to have to add a day. Okay. But if you really, yeah, like we started the show, why 28? What are we doing? Why is this month 31? Why is this 20? How do we get them up with 20, like February's 28?

Yeah, Jack. Come on, Jack, figure the cell. Oh, Jack? This is your generation's going to have to change this. Henri, Richard, 11 cups or 10, most of all time? Rockets brother, I don't know. Yeah, Maurice is his brother, the Rocket. He was the better player.

It's 10 for sure. Yeah, I believe it's 10 for sure. That's a hell of a career. 10 rings, you get two fistfuls. How about I mean 16s? Yeah, a lot of those other 16s, no one had 10 rings. Like, most ever. Service Credit Union has brought back the big share.

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while we're talking about Kipper, and then we'll do the Pinder report. I saw this article come up a while ago, and I wanted to remember it for this week. And I'm just going to, I want to give credit where it is due here and see if I can dig it up. Again, it ages you. And you think about things, God, we're getting old, we're getting old. A huge fan of Mika Kipersoff when he was growing up, Golden Knights goaltender Logan Thompson. This is from Jesse Granger of the Athletic. This was written a couple of years ago.

Logan Thompson vividly remembers sitting on the floor of his childhood home in June of 04 watching game seven. Seven years old, cheering on the flames. Flames, of course, didn't win. Two to one, Ruslan Fedetanko. He says, I'm still devastated with a subtle lap. This is the goalie for the Golden Knights. Stanley Cup winner. I'm still devastated.

Born and raised in Calgary, played for the Calgary Bison's AAA youth team as a teen, has many memories of watching the flames in the dome. And because it was Mika Kippersoff retirement year, he wanted to do something special as a Kipper fan. He says, I was a big Kipper fan growing up. I remember he and Ginnla impact players. Calgary was bad, but Kipper would give him a chance to win every single night

making ridiculous saves. He's the man was his quote. So we'll kind of go through. So this is the gear, and I don't always know this stuff. This gear that you see there, Mika brought it out for the outdoor game and then would wear it off and on. I'm not sure if he was a real stickler for gear.

He kind of just felt like, I need new pads, just bring in whatever. So those are the ones that had, you can kind of, if you're watching on the thing, it looks just kind of like three stripes going up. He wanted to,

this was Logan Thompson, he wanted to do something special. He talked with his equipment provider. So there's Kipper in the stance with the Bauer in that gear. and Logan Thompson. Yeah. I didn't realize

wore this gear when Vegas came to Calgary earlier this year. This was his tribute to Kipper. He says he's still his favorite of all time. He just kind of patterns this guy. Now he catches with his with the other hand. But I thought that was pretty cool

that a guy in the NHL today has a Stanley Cup ring. This would be, and there's the official kit, when you order it from the equipment company. That's the Bauer. the Bower gear. So that was pretty cool. Kipper met a lot to people.

Well, even it's funny because Mike Soroka, who's now pitching for the White Sox, we haven't been it a couple times a year. He was a monster, monster Kipersov fan and went into net because of it and wasn't good and then switched to baseball.

So, you know, just like you brought Mika to town, Mika put Mike in the majors. That how it goes? Yeah. But no, like, who didn't want to be a goalie in Calgary if you were like a school age kid

when Mika was here? It's interesting. So Logan Thompson, where's Aiden Hill? from. He's injuries. Yeah, he's local. But like, and that's, it does make a difference.

Like, it's, it's the same soccer, because soccer's been so good in Canada lately. Yeah. We're going to see a bunch of really good soccer players coming up. There's basketball. Vince Carter had, like, all those guys high in the draft from Canada the last five, six years. You've got a goal tender that has an impact in regionally and, you know, in town here. More kids are, I'm going to be going. I'm trying to think there.

There was another one. There was another local guy that was Jones. Martin Jones. But he played here. You're right. There was another. Yeah. There was another local guy.

I think he played for the, because Aden Hill did. But there was another guy that was kind of a backup. But it was from that, he'd have been in that same era, that same era for sure. And I think even if you, if you were to talk to minor hockey,

probably there were some really good minor hockey goalies that played in Calgary. Wouldn't be hard to get the gears signed up for that year. Everyone wanted to be nice. Jack, okay, so you're mid-20s, right?

Is that fair to saying? Yeah. When someone says Miko, what comes to mind? You're like, oh, I heard he was good or like what stands out to you?

Because like, we're, I'm in my 40s. We're all in our 40s. I think for me, just like watching as a young kid with my dad, I didn't really know a ton about Kipper, Iggy,

kind of towards the end I did. But the pads definitely were one of the things that stood out. Okay. Everyone loved those Vaughn pads with like the, the devilish kind of look on them. I don't remember a ton. Yeah. And I wish I did.

And that's sort of what you're talking about where it's like, it's almost like an outdoor game. This is for this market for a certain time. This Saturday night. Like if there's a 15 year age window where if you were in that pocket, this was the greatest school attendant on earth for a significant portion of those 15 years. It's another one of those things too for kids. Because I don't know.

We talk about the saddle doll. I was like, oh, saddle doll. More from Logan Thompson. I love playing at the saddle. dome. I'm playing at home. It's a rink. I grew up loving. It's an easy game to get up for more on Kipersoff. Growing up, he was always the man. I would put him there as a top five goalie in the NHL. He never had a good team. Think about it. The flames were never really a powerhouse.

The one year they went to the cup final, they were maybe in the playoffs as an eighth seed because of it, yeah. I always felt like I want to be that type of player. I always looked up to him how calm he was in the net. Then at the same time, he would do. just ridiculous stuff. Competitive, but every time you watch Kipper get scored on, he'd have no emotion. He would put his mask up, take a drink of water, and just reset. He'd never get mad.

He'd always go a goal line to the wall and back to the goal line. I mean, it's pretty, you can tell the impact that he had on, on a guy who's now number one in the NHL. Pretty neat. That boy, Mika. That's the impact we're having on young podcasters. podcasters out there. We're going to try to drink 15 drinks in an hour.

One of them dies and we get a lawsuit. No. It's waves for making. Something like that. Just all about it. Did we talk about the trade yet? No. Do we care?

Yeah. It's coming up in the Pinderer, we certainly care. We talked about a little bit. To be fair, if you want a lot of reaction, we did an emergency pod last night, boom from his car outside of an arena. It turned in the studio.

Good, yeah. And how can he didn't start your vehicle? It's a diesel. It's loud. It would have been I could have. I was curious because the light kept going on. I was curious because of the light.

But I had it on. It's like this is too low. And then I'm at this rank and I can't do it inside. It's kind of chilly last night and dark. If Connie does this trade in the middle of the afternoon, different story. Come on, Connie. Think about our lighting.

And we're about to talk about the trade. Let's do it. So here you go. Set it. It's time for the Pinder Report, a presentation of Village Honda. It's as though Honda designed the CRV for the city of Calgary, and it's unpredictable weather, no matter what the conditions, the CRV sits atop the pack among compact SUVs.

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That's a hell of a deal for Dallas. He fits exactly what they're looking for. For the Dallas stars, it's a right shot defenseman that jumps in their talk. They're not good at getting in front of pucks and blocking shots. He is amongst the league leaders in that. And over his four years in Calgary, one of the best defenders in the NHL. Is he going to run your power play? No.

Is he picking up points? Not very often. Is he great in his own zone, neutralizing chances against? One of the best. That's what Dallas just added. And they do it for the price of this year's second rounder, a kid that they drafted two years ago in the second round, who the flames clearly like, and a conditional third that they don't even have to part with unless they get to the cup final in which hell yeah give

him that third yeah it's a great deal for dallas yes right the jury will be out on the flames and who knows what else was there potentially now the other part of it is too maybe chris tannup gets injured and well there's lots to it and in noodles and we've said it and of course down the road is the only time you'll know right that's the only time they he doesn't do the deal if there's better out there Yeah, Conroy likes this player more than I think a lot of other people do. And he has watched him a lot from listening to him speak with Flames TV yesterday. And he's had a lot of his guys in the, in the org watched this player. From my old B.

My partner, Jay McKee, coached him in Hamilton. Odd for Jay to speak so highly up. Do you want to roll through some of that? Like, I don't think that's off the record stuff. I think that was. It's not. It just speaks to what. Jay McKee, because he was with the Hamilton Bulldogs, played.

did they went to the North and Memorial Cup, won the OHL championship. He was there for two years. Two full seasons, yeah. In the Ontario League and Jay McKee, your old teammate, his coach there. Genuinely a great human being, incredible hard worker on and off the ice,

always in the wait room before players arrived to the rink. And long after they left, there were days where I'd be leaving the arena and I'd hear shots off the glass from down the hallway, go take a look, and it'd be him still on the ice. Always did it without, being asked.

It's everything you want to hear. All you, yes. Stay at home style defenseman, but he moves the puck well, enjoys playing physically and was a major success as an 18 year old in our championship season. As an 18 year old. I don't say this often or lightly, but he's a special kid. Yeah.

Yeah. And well, why don't we just jump to the head coach of the Texas stars? He's playing in the American League as a 20 year old. He's a left shot defenseman, good skater, physical player, defense first. This is their head coach. He's a first class individual. He wanted to say a few words. He hung around after the trade.

He got scratched last night for their game because he was involved in the trade. Waited till after. Spoke very highly of our organization in his time here. We feel the exact same way about him. I told him, I'm from Calgary. If he needs anything, a home cook meal, let me know. So this guy is winning people over everywhere he goes. And, you know, as a Russian guy, that's not often easy to do because it's a different culture.

It's not home. He has got nothing but. Sterling character references everywhere you go. Now that does mean he's going to be a great hockey player. What it does mean is that you don't have to worry about the character. One of Trillivings' bigger gaffs in my mind was when he moved the second rounder for an exemplary human

who just had no ceiling, and that was Curtis Lazzar. His career high was two goals when he picked him up for a second rounder. And Curtis Lazzar remained a fourth-line player that is an awesome human. And he's still in the league is a fourth-liner who's an awesome human. So nice to know you're getting an amazing human and you want to bet on that type of person overcoming the odds.

But the profile they've picked up with this prospect is a guy that's going to have to beat the odds if he's going to be a regular. He's going to be a TANF. That would be the high end. And I don't know that top four is, is, but meaning the style of play. It's not going to be points. It's going to be a quiet, rugged.

And it depends on what else you have. Like TANF is a, it sounds like I'm taking a shot at him as he leaves town, but is he a really of top four? I think he is. I think the defending. He's a four, five. He's not, and depending on who he's playing with, he's clearly a four, right? I just see contenders lining up for 10, I have to put him on a second pair.

Like, to me, that says he's second pair. Like in Abbottini slides right side second pair, and Alist's the right side second pair. And if you want to do the comparable, he was an undrafted player. And at 20, no one was saying he was going to be a coveted player in the national hockey. He didn't come in as a top four. Correct. Yeah. And he was undrafted and came right out of college as a free agent signing in Vancouver. My point being is that Tanna's an outlier.

Mark Jordana was an outlier. If this guy's going to make it, he's going to have to be the outlier. That makes it a bit of a riskier bet. I think you're underselling it. He has a second round. Why would Dallas take him in the second round? Why was he ranked 10th amongst their prospect pool by people that are going to, like, I'm not saying because they draft well. Like where they were in the Dallas hierarchy does not mean, it makes no difference as to what he is as a player. I think if you're just going to look at where he was drafted, there's a lot of guys drafted later. Well, then don't look at the prospect report.

What if they have three or four guys at the top of their roster, like Stankovin and Maverick Bork that are elite? I'm not saying this guy is going to be a good player. What I'm saying is you're asking this guy to be an outlier because there's not huge ceiling. No, you're not. That's just what I said. What do you mean I'm not saying that?

You're not asking him to be an outlier. He's a second round pick. Yes, who's put up no points anywhere. And he got asking him to put up points. It's not his job. Correct. You've drafted the Etienne Morins and you've got the Jeremy Porreys and you've got the kid out of New York. So is it a slam dunk that he's in NHL?

No, but it's not for anybody. That's my only point is that the most likely scenario for this player's profile is that he's a quad A or a 6-7. But with the character, you're hoping that he can be a solid third pair guy for a long time because you love the way he plays and you know he's going to give it everything he's got workwise. I just thought, I think you can see that. I don't think you're all. in portraying it that way, but it can be portrayed as it's, the way you're saying it makes it sound like he's going to have a hard time making the NHL.

And that's correct for everyone. Don't, I'm not, it's not an argument. I'm not saying that you're wrong. I'm just saying he was also a second round pick. Like, we covet second round picks.

And it's odd. As soon as you become a second round pick, they don't covet the second round pick. Do you know what I mean? Like, we've got to get these picks. Oh, yeah, second round pick.

That's a good pick. Except now we've got a second round pick. that's already been picked and maybe he's not as good as a second round. Like it. It depends, right? Because for the example, for me, would be like, you look at William Stromgren, a guy that the flames draft in the second round. You're like, man, probably not a player.

And then it's like two picks later, Stan Covell, give us that guy. So you just know more about the guy two years later. That's all it is. You do have a longer viewing of them. And so what I would say is if you view this as two seconds and a conditional third, does that change the way you feel about the deal? And if you like this player, you're probably saying, no, it doesn't. But what I'm seeing from a lot of people in other markets,

is that like, oh, is this the best prospect they could get? Because there's not a high ceiling. But it doesn't mean they can't win this trade. Absolutely, I think they can't. The thing of it is, if you're going to judge it by points, because remember, the flames make this trade, they don't get a point or two or three a year. They're not going to judge him on what he does offensively.

They have offensive guys. It's what he does on the defensive side, why they made this trade. Yes. It's his ability, his skating, his stick work. physical guy. He can play with Shillington. And he's, and he's 20. I just.

Yeah, no one's suggesting we know what the finished product is. It's just that when you look at players that have done what he's done through draft year, draft plus one and draft plus two, it's like less than 10% turned to Denny Chillers. And that's fine. You're betting on the best character. Compared to what? Just the same profiles. Like here's his age, here's his birthday.

Here's his production. So it feels like it's-production. Again, you're coming back to production. Because almost every, even the defense. defensive defenseman produce at lower levels. How many points do you have in junior? 45. Yeah, right?

Like, that's, that's points. It's fine. I just, it's, this is a different, this is a unique case. So one year at college, Kristana puts up 28 points to 441 games. This is my point. When you're a defensive defenseman, you don't flash if you're doing things correctly.

If you're playing well, you're not really noticed a ton. So it'd be easy for, for these guys that do, the scouting reports and everything else. Like, oh, yeah. I think, I just not to interrupt you, but I actually think, and I've talked about it and we've brought it up, in a day where you can't

scrap, as a defensive defenseman, you're screwed. It's really hard to stand out, right? You have to grind and do it continuously over and over and over and over to get noticed. Because you can't go get in a fight to, oh, he fights. We're like that guy. Right? Like, there's not a lot,

he's not going to get, points clearly. Yeah. And that's, that's fine. You don't have to, but it's very hard for guys that are defensive focused to even get noticed. Now what about Brostevich, Bristavich?

Yeah. He's got tons of points. Yeah. So is he, it's red carpet to the NHL? Of course not. I'd just saying like you would say Chris Tanna is a defensive defense of it. He was almost three quarters a point per game in college his first year.

I understand. Do you understand that? Yeah, I do. So even the most defensive. I hear. I hear you. A defensive defenseman produced at the collegial level. You're repeating yourself and I'm saying again, I hear you.

And at the American level, he produced more than this cat in his first year. I think he can be a very nice piece. There are many that think this is underwhelming. Scouts and people that work in front officers. There sure are. And you know what? That's all I'm telling you. You know what?

There's something, he's going to have a hard time making the NHL. You read some other guys. They're going to have a hard time keeping him out of the NHL by how he plays. The character you wouldn't bet against. By how he plays, not character. I'm just, there's, it just seems, there's so much out there that at 20 years of age, two seasons in North American hockey as a junior. And, well, this is, this is what it is.

No one said what it is. You're telling me exactly what it is. I'm telling you that this is a longer shot, but that I don't know what he's going to be. That's all I'm saying. And if he has the character he has, I'd like, you bet on that character if you're going to bet. For sure. I but if you're if you're drafting or trading for a player

to play a specific role and clearly that's what this is. They didn't go looking for the best defenseman. They looked at their cupboard and says, offense, offense, offense, we're going to have to do a lot of teaching on the defense side with Porreier. Yeah, but they've got Kuznatsov and Soloviav and profile

as third pair guys. It's not like they don't have those guys. That's why this deal was done. I get it. They really like the play. They said as much yesterday. They like the player is that they get this guy because of the offensive ability. is of those other three, that this can be a compliment to that.

That's all. But if you're a team that drafted the guy hoping he's going to come in and get you points, and yeah, you're going to be disappointed, and he may have a hard time making your team because of that. But if they're looking for him to be defense first, and he can be that, what's Pahal? I mean, Pahal to me is a guy you got on waivers who's in his mid-20s, is a seven, eight around the league, and Pahal would have outproduced him at all levels, not that he's a defense defense guy,

but I'm just saying like it's a really, you can go back and look at profiles. This is a very, very, very rare profile that makes it. It doesn't mean he won't. That's all I'm saying. And look, if you went to a neutral group of NHL observers, they would say there's guys with higher ceiling you could have chased, but Connie loves this player.

Like, I'm not denying that. There is the characters to the roof, and he gives them an element they don't really have is the point you're making. That's, yes, that's just. the main point that I'm making is that he is filling a role that they are wanting to fill. They're not starting from scratch looking for the best seven defensemen. They're trying to augment what they have and they feel like this is the best way to do that, which I think gives him a better shot at making the NHL if that's what they're looking for.

If the spot that they're looking for, he's tailored for, I think gives him a head start. And the Bahal point is an interesting one because you can't go find top four defensemen on waivers almost ever. Like maybe you have Gustav Forsling in Florida four or five years ago. It's very rare. The types of guy you can find their third pair,

six, seven that have some physicality and some warts that don't produce offense. So that would be the argument against this type of a player as the prospect. But if you view it as two seconds and a conditional third, that's a nice return for 20-some games of Chris Tannav and a playoff.

Regardless, I just think that that's the market. I was going to say, I said that to last thing because it was yesterday. We were talking, well, if you get a couple first, you get a first in the Tannab, you get a first in the Hanepin. Well,

you didn't get the first. It's, I feel like immediately it's kind of a, you're disappointed. If you thought you were going to, well, wait another week, maybe you'll get the first. It sure seems to signal from Conroy that I'm not getting it.

I think it almost signals to move on from this trade. I think what Conroy was doing was just letting Pindor know that maybe we have to pump the brakes on what our return expectations. Well, And again, I'll stick with my substantially more for Hanifin than what we saw yesterday. This is the, I'll stay with it. And I'll stay on the other side. You think it'll be similar?

You don't think they get a first for Taniff? What I was told is be prepared to be underwhelmed. And people are underwhelmed with this one. And I think it'll be the same with Hanifton. Well, you were also told that there was a robust market for Tannib, though. No, but listen, like, I think all I'm saying is that if even if they get a first for Hanifton is that, are you? No, robust market first player plus.

Robust. Robust means number of teams intro. That's what I would. There were 10 to 12 teams interested in them, but they were all in that same price. Second plus. So whether there's fewer teams or more teams or whatever, it just sounds like you're not going to get this haul for Hannafin that you maybe hope for.

That's all. We'll see. I'm a little more bullish on it. And I heard from someone in a Western conference organization. They said they're going to get a ton for Hannafam. Now, it could be a first plus, plus, but that might not be, I don't know what people expect. Are you, that's just it.

Well, we'll see. For me, for me, if Conroy gets a Lindholm type return, that would be a monster. Oh, shit. Like, wow. If you got the Lindholm deal minus the second prospect and the second pick, that's probably where we're starting. roster player prospect first. And that would be a good haul, I think, around.

Yeah. I agree. So if he can get that, good Lord. He's already added a full draft class. First, second, third, fourth, fifth, another commercial. Today or tomorrow. So that we can. Yeah.

And then just. Crude. Now, if you could get something done with Florida and Tampa, you're flying there on Thursday. You're going there anyway. You're flying their Wednesday. And they retained salary. A lot of it, right? As much as they could.

They retained half of that salary and that's still the package that they got. That's what I'm finding weird is that I thought that they didn't want to retain salary on the Markstrom, Jersey. Well, they didn't want to do it on Zedorov. No, I know, but wasn't there money talked? That was the hang up in the Markstrom deal. And I think the difference is that we're talking about like 600 grand. And if you're talking about retaining salary on Markstrom, you're talking about like,

no, I just spent that $8 million over the next three years. Why was Jersey asking Calgary to eat money on Markstrom, but now they're eating money for because it's for this year. It's only, it's less than 300 grand in real salary. They get a fourth rounder for less than 300 grand. Yeah, it's the, it's the pro rated what's left on Tanev's deal. It's a third of a deal and they're eating 25% of it. Whereas for Markstrom, it's the full year, the full year, and then all of next year and the year after.

It's a bigger ask for sure. It's a huge ask, yeah. Like to eat between now and April 18th, that's all anyone's doing here. This deal is done April 18. He stops getting paycheck. I still say New Jersey. Grab them and give them a twist.

Show us what you're about. There's something to do. I think they might in June. Yeah, man. Shorty. Wildcard looks like this. Let's go. We've got a couple of decent matchups tonight that involved teams here.

In fact, Nashville, Minnesota will hear from later. They clash. That'll be an interesting one. Minnesota's fond little traction here, Dina. They're well under 500 a while ago, getting healthier. So they're not trademark Andre Fleury. And that's kind of up to him. And that makes sense.

They're in it. And he doesn't want to go back up somebody, right? Let's be honest. Likes it there. They're in a chase. They got good horses there. I thought, I always wondered if Pittsburgh was in a position,

if maybe he'd go back there. But they're in, I don't know if they're a spot than Minnesota is, I think. Yeah. And Jerry's been fine. He's going to go back up for it. Just a sentimental thing. It'd be cool to see him.

Maybe the one day contract or something. He feels like a penguin when he goes out, right? Certainly does. Schedule-wise, what are we looking at? Well, it's two and then gone. Make sure you leave the water and the Tylenol by the side of the bed on March 2nd. That's Mekinae. That's going to be by my rough math, about six to seven hours of Saddle Dome time.

So adjust appropriately and accordingly. Monday, Seattle, they're right in there. the flames. I feel like Seattle's kind of becoming Columbus. Like they just kind of feel irrelevant. Not good, not bad, no identity. I have not paid close attention.

And it's like, what do we, if I say them, like last year into playoffs a little, well, maybe they're doing. And then Poof gone. I like their goal song.

I like, I like their jerseys and logo. I like what they're doing. Apparently the rink is awesome. It doesn't. But the team, nothing. Nothing.

Yeah, still feels like an expansion. I mean, Vegas went to the cup in year one. There you got. What have you guys done? What have you done for us lately? Um, okay. That's all the sports.

All right. Heavy debate. Oh, is that it? Well, we got a lot of shit, a lot. And it starts with our barn animals. And look, we've got, um, the great clips inbox where people can contribute also on social. Mm-hmm. But someone has gone to the effort of designing some t-shirts for us, I think using AI.

So we, we have a no rat policy on the Pinder report. This is day two of that. So this guy's got you a boomertown rats t-shirt coming soon sponsored by the Pinder Report. Very good. Although those look like mice, don't think? What are the Boomtown rats? What's the base? And then because Frank's jacket is still in your closet home,

there's the proud collector of Canada goose of Dio's mom. Shaits on. This guy gets us. Proud collector. I am for sure, yeah. Feathered and lethal. Okay. I think we know what that's about.

I should go to the mustache. That'd be a vibe, wouldn't it? Oh, man. I mean, what the bleep are you looking at? See you next Tuesday. there's a jacked kangaroo with jeans on. Like, that is amazing. Who is doing this?

Someone on Twitter, I saw it this morning when I woke up. See you at Greta Dean. There's a rat riding a three-wheeled motorcycle. See this when you use the internet for good, not evil. This is going to happen. It's a crocodile with a bunch of newspapers and glasses in a suit saying, time for the Pinda report. You have had a lot of reptiles.

If there was a mullet on the on the crocodile, that would be good. Barnburner Weekly. Ret Warner spelled wrong and then remember, it's the parents' fault. And the important of not interrupting, Cammy. And it looks like a magazine cover, episode one. I need to give a shout-out to this guy. That literally just fell into our laps at like seven this morning. I feel like there's some deal we could strike up.

with this guy. We've certainly pushed worse stuff onto the market. Let's say that. And this is David O'Brien. David, thanks a bunch. Out of boy, Dave. Ghost to ghost, G-H-O-S-S on Twitter or X.

So shout-outs to him. Now you, remember the pandemic kit you got on the bike and you were big into workouts? Your roommate, the woman you live with, sent us a video. You've got a new regime starting. Well, of course, yeah. There is. So there's Boomcat. Yeah, there I am.

And I don't look at the kid, I guess. There it is. And I don't know who it's called. The good news is that bottle didn't break, Dean. And I didn't know you're a Rangers fan. It's happened bad for a few years. Bad ankles. I've got a shirt here.

What do we got for the shirt? Sure, shirt, shirt. Yeah, okay, so here it is. You go shopping. How are you going to look in this stuff? This guy's got it all figure out. He just slides it. Right.

Okay. That's going to be a little baggy on me. Pretty good. Yeah. That's how I shop. Yeah, see? Easy. That's the thing.

If you're buying online, not going to stores, how you know what's going to look like? Well, now you know. Not bad. Kids these days, right? Hey? Just pain in the ass. Messing with parents. We got a collection of kids doing dumb things.

So this is good here. This is cool dad here. Mousetrap Surprise. That's what it's called. Dad leaves for bathroom break. Filment. Kids are doing it. Mousetrap in the bag of popcorn.

A few moments later. They just love it. What do you do? You yelled them. They just won the Super Bowl. Must have mice in your house if you get a mouse trap. Most true. Yeah.

Now, when they get older, they go to parties. You've always got to be careful when you and the shovel are going on vacation because the kids might throw a party. I'll tell you, yeah. They'll have Adderbarks. Yeah, well, just make sure you don't invite this kid. So this is a chandelier and some sort of second floor ledge. They're going to try to do the swing off the chandelier.

Dude, the dude's pretty coughing. I'm a little worried about the structural. Oh, dumb animals. We are so stupid. It gets stupider. So then outside, you know, you have the chandelier swing inside. Outside, people are playing with fireworks, like parties these days. Jack, do you, your generation, we still learn how to party.

Oh, no. This looks like what a kachukkut. Who are me? No, long lost kichikovina. That can't feel good. No. Can't feel good. No.

You wasted a firework because it just dropped it on the ground and then it would have gone off. Idiot. We've got a carnival ride that I don't know if it's faulty or if this guy's doing it wrong. So I think it's a teenage mutant Ninja Turtles themed ride. It's not the redhead here. It's behind him. So you have to move your wings to try to steer. But this guy loses back.

balance and now he's just all moment oh he's in us yeah he's he's in a death spiral he is in a death spiral and it looks like he's one of his shoulders kind of sliding out I'm worried about his safety here now the ride we're just getting started is this at west ed by the way this is in the mall it looks like he's just stop the ride just buzzed stop the ride yeah he's secure just keep it going I think he's got his wings set on full twist there guys. Oh, yes. And now this is lap three. He's really buzzing here. I don't know what he had for lunch, but we're about to find out.

And everyone's noticed by now. It's, uh, yeah. So, but there again, did he start? Was he being a, I think he lost the balance. And then next thing you know, he gets into the spins. He reaches. And then he's like, oh, boy. Oh, no. And then it's just, we're off. I'm off to the races. It's just, where does the, where does this stuff come from? Oh, the internet team. Oh, great. It's all sides.

No, horses. They're full of horses. But you got to earn their trust, right? That's why when your kids, you always get like, give a carrot or apple out of your hand beside the fence, you want to be friends with the horse before you try to get on the horse. Because if you're not, oh, this horse is nervous. Oh, is that a row of teeth that just lost? Something goes flying. Is it the glasses?

The hat's gone, glasses, teeth. What are we working with you? Oh, both. They're good at. They're kicking. No, that is a, that's a hospital bed for a while, I'm thinking. Holy cow. Now, Dean, this one's especially for you because you're the shark lover,

and I know you're all about protecting the sharks. They can be dangerous. Here's a group of a bunch of people. Swimming with, yeah. No, but don't worry. They got like tanks and sure the shark you just gently push their nose away. That's how you deal with sharks. That's right.

Yeah. So just very gently direct them. And that's not gentle at all. And oh, boy. Yeah. Saying hello to everyone. Oh my God. That's just nightmare.

And again, the shark's just doing his thing in Sharkland, right? Why are you in my living room? Exactly. Trust pass. Why are you in my living room and touching me on the nose? I don't think so. This one's called Batface. Take the doors off.

Friendly fire, dude. Oh, see, I like that one. The horse one, the guy's not trying to. This guy's an idiot. Yeah, he earned it. That's Batface, yeah. Bigger? Yeah.

Bigger? I got another bike one. I know we had the guy off the second story yesterday. This is different. We got to learn. But these pure part ones, you think you know what you're going to get at. Is that a Unisprite?

And then, no, he's like, back wheel. Okay. Look, he misses the taxi. Everything's going to be fine. Oh. AirPod stated, no. Everyone thinks it's the taxi and then no. It's the motorcycle.

How mad would you be if you're the motorcycle back? Yeah, not impressed. Dude, what are you doing? What have I driven into here? Yeah. What were you doing? And Radd, it's a bit of a throwback. didn't have a ton of time to go over it, but I saw a promotional video from your neck of the woods.

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That's not supposed to go on. Well, then we did one yesterday. Didn't we? This one was way worse. Yeah, I was. I can't, I can't, I can do the mouse shit. I can't do the. No, but dude was on the weight rack.

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Rosie was here for Department of Discipline. He took some home. He was thrilled. His mind must have been blown when he walked in. What is this? He's like, what did I walk into? I just had lunch. Why didn't you tell me?

Yeah, my kid was ecstatic. He was like, Dad, what is that in the fridge? What are you talking? Is that like ribs and potato salad from the, yeah, it is. well can I can I can I yeah buddy you can you can I'm just gone diving big guy and then and then last night I had to leave for a little bit obviously was at the rink came back he's making his lunch dad are there any ribs left well I don't know what was in there did you give us the update there son because I haven't been here since you started eating them well yeah what was is there is there is there any left

you're asking me I don't is there blank screen did you eat them all yeah I did then there's no then there's none left. So you answered your own question. The math. And then Keller, Texas, like, so, uh, no potato salad hangover today? Nothing's like, you don't know that. I ate a lot of potatoes. So I think that's all I ate yesterday. I had some ribs here and then took some home and they went poof. And I had more potato salad here. And as soon as I got home and before I left, that again, when I got home, it grayed's done potato cell. It's good living right there if you can get it. So good. And again, it was like a torso-sized vat.

They don't, they don't publicize the potato salad. They don't advertise it. You guys could talk about this or anything else. You guys can talk about it on the potato salad. We saw a lot of things here, but it seems to be a potato salad. And we said it yesterday. I had no affinity for potato salad before this. No, nor anywhere else after.

It's only this potato salad. No, my yearly picnic, I would have some potato salad. There's a mess. The immediate, the first thing you notice is like, that's not the color. I'm used to. Usually it's that yellowy kind of mustard. This is like white. Potatoes are very crisp. Look, there's some bacon looking at me.

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Okay, I got to do you Oh boy Why don't you just get prescription somebody texted in He's I'll greet it I guess It's from Sean Thanks Sean And actually this is for Well whatever back in the day

I lived in Calgary was a frequent flyer at the 9th and 5th original Cowboys. We'd see Kipper and Dion in there on many occasions. My buddy's cousin was an oiler fan, dirt bag, but had a rocket for a girlfriend. He would send her into the corner where Funuf and Kipper would hang out and get her to get drinks from Dion who was young and single and thought he was a big wheel. She would then bring the drinks over to her boyfriend for him to drink. He thought this was the best thing ever. Meanwhile, there's Kipper sitting in the corner, drinking, smoking a dart, even though there's no smoking, just minding his business.

Being a Flames fan, I did go over to say hi to Kipper. First thing he says, how many drinks has your buddy got through that girl? I replied, oh, he's not my buddy. I don't really think he's doing that. Kipper's why I don't care. I think it's funny. I just have a bet going to see how many it is. So Kipper, chestnut checkers, in on it.

Totally. And I guess did you ever see anything quite like this? I think it's just more of an appreciation, a Kipper appreciation thing than anything else. I know, but I can see it. He loves a good laugh and could care less about how much Rick Steon has to pay for. You guys had the rule of roost in that joint.

That was quite something for a while there. Hey, Rhett. I haven't been able to sleep through a night since the slideshow at Rett's Roast. Any ideas on how to see those photos? So somebody had quick, had an early night, I guess, at the,

at the roast and didn't see the slideshow. Does anybody still have, uh, oof, I don't remember slideshow. So I would love to watch this. I didn't even see Clark Welm to remind a slideshow. Ah,

da-de-de-de-d-d-cabbage rolls. We asked that one. Uh, retro. Who was the guy on the 0-4 team or that, that group, who would drink more, than they would eat on a road trip, if you know what I mean.

I guess just is their big boozer. Who wasn't? Who, yeah, yeah. Or she says, hey, we're going for dinner. Oh, are you? I'll have a triple martini. With your steak? No steak.

Hold the steak. That was the era when guys stopped, started to stop drinking before games, night before games. So that was a transition from when you started to when you had finished. Yeah. Like going out the night before game,

you'd always go out and eat. when I first started and you'd have drinks. Yeah. Not that that meant staying out until two in the morning, but there were bottles of wines and some beers and a couple drinks at least. Yep. And then guys, that was around the first time guys were like, eh, how we play tomorrow.

I'm just going to lay off. But Montador never said no to any. Yeah. I think there's probably a few of those guys. It's going to say, like the sore, the sticking out like an odd thumb would be the guy that doesn't enjoy the sauce on that crew. Uh, this is from Jim.

Hey, Rhett, looking forward to Kipper Knight. How close were you guys to missing a morning skate after night of partying? Never. Never. Not close or how close was it? We maybe should not have been going to the bank and we maybe should not have been on the ice, but we never allow. I know there was one instance where he may be missed, but the rest of us weren't at that.

Like what it was like is, it's not going to show up. Yeah. No. You always. You mean he had the maybe a little bit of wiggle room to not be in attendance. It was also during a playoff run. So I don't think they wanted to make a big deal of it. Load management.

Yeah. Load management. Off ice workout today for Kipper. Hey Retro is from Ian. You ever made YuclaFlux? Which is what? Yuccafux or whatever? You know what this is?

It rings a bell. It's kind of a dog for everything. Yeah, just a bunch of booze. We made it once, and it was like, we can never do that again. It was, you just get a big pale. Just s mix. And it's what have you got? Yeah.

And it's kind of white, white liquor, white mix, and then fruit. Yeah, I think a lot of it's supposed to be that you just, you bury fruit. Yeah. And then it's like gummy bears, even. Sink them into a bottle of vodka. Watermelon's still a move, hey, a little hole in the top. Yeah. but that's basically what it is.

Yeah. And you get messed up. I'd think so, yeah. Moose milk we used to make two at the lake all the time. What's that? Same sort of thing. It's evil. It's what it is.

This is from James. Hey, retro, old boy. How come when I eat corn, I get to see it twice on the way in and the way out? Doesn't digest, obviously. Is that what it is? Maybe you should stop eating. The corn.

It is for, you know what? He's putting it in the right end. That should, that corn is stubborn. It's putting up a fight in there, right? A force field on those things. Like, whatever breaks down your gut, your gut stuff. Usually that's kind of something if you actually, if you thought about it, it's like,

clearly this was not meant to be ingested. And it's a, and it's, it's not really a healthy vegetable, right? It's a carb. Yeah, I, it's,

you know what? It's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a, Yeah. Well, I'm asking if you ate corn, what was the butter and salt? Exactly. It's like popcorn. Popcorn. Popcorn. It's a vehicle. Yeah. It's a vehicle for salt and butter. It's the only reason. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Do, uh, from Mitchell. Hey, Rhett, has Huberto totally redeemed himself yet? What are you talking? Totally redeeming. I think he's using the play on words from the dumb and dumber, but, uh, right. But it overpointed a game. Didn't you have that yesterday? In the new year, since the health break. It was since the Lindholm trade, I believe was the breakdown. He had 12 and Cadre at 11, something like that in 10 games. Hey, we're much happier with what's happening than.

He's pulling the rope in the right direction. He does not look like a man that got lost amongst NHLers wandering around to playing surface, getting in some cardio. He's pulling the rope. It's from Stewart. Hey, Rhett. When you make pizza at home, do you make your own? No, I have.

I rarely make pizza at home. Pizza is kind of a specialty item. Yeah. And a lot of good pizza out there. There's lots of people that make a damn fine pizza. And I take joy in ordering that damn fine pizza. Is there a particularly unique to Buffalo style or flavor or order of pizza? No, just the, it's always the New York pizza where it's thinner and cheese.

They fry the pepperoni before baking the pepper. I have my, if you want pen? You write it down? For what? Pizza dough. I don't give a shit about your pizza. Well, it's not too different than making buns. You just get to do a different shape at the end, right?

No, that's different. Okay. I got a pen still. I don't know that you're going to be making pizza dough. All right. It's Ask Red anyway. It's true. You didn't care.

Sorry, I lost it here. Go back. There we go. So that was a no one. No. I don't know. By the way, he's a pace for 52 points. It should be less than last year's 55,

but that's kind of ignoring that he was awful. The first half of him has been much better. Let's get 60 plus and we'll be, we'll let it slide and then we'll hope for more next year. If you want to hang around a point per game for the whole second half, there will be hope moving forward. Yeah. Hey, Rhett.

This is from Eric. Kirk. I've seen a lot of the European players dressing very fancy when they come to the rink. I'm guessing NHL. Fosternock. Where would Kipper rank in the well-dressed European category? He was dressed good for a while because the shoveler worked downtown at one of those

fancy stores and he gave her a credit card and I told her, much like Kipper did to Dion with the drinks. I told her, you feel free to spend as much as you want. Take home a big fat commission check. Wow. I did not know about this chapter. Oh, yeah. He's had a few little side hustle.

Oh, yeah. It was awesome. I loved it. He goes, just tell her to pick some stuff. So I said, you spend as much. Yeah. Like there were watches and suits. Oh, yeah.

And this was when he was into the nice contract. Yeah, he was big one. He was still. Holy F. Oh, yeah. And what did you buy me here? Well, did you look good, Mika? It's quite a, it's quite a situation that Warner's got going.

No, it wasn't, I, he asked you this already. Didn't you sell him a car? He bought a car, and didn't pay for it. No, he paid me for it, but he absolutely hosed me. Oh, but I was okay being hosed

because in my back of my head, I'm like, he's probably made me. Yeah, yeah. Right, the couple grand that I didn't get. Comes out in the wash. Yeah. Yeah.

It was funny, though, when he came over to drive it, we're pulling out of the garage, and it all of a sudden, it's that burning smell. And we went half a block and it shut down. Oh. Hmm.

Price just went. And that's when his kid, then we went back inside, pushed it in the garage and started drinking. It was the night before a game. And his youngest started to stood on the table and pissed off it onto the rug during summer. Kids.

Yeah. But we were having fun, so it didn't matter. Yeah. 35 million in that last deal. Six years work. From Kevin for Ask Rat. I had left over pulled pork and used it for casidias. It was good, but I think chicken is the better option.

What is your option for the meat in a cassidia? Don't make cassidias very often, but pulled pork doesn't sound like a traditional. I can see how it turned into carnitas or barbecula. I think you've got to add some fried peppers and onions and stuff in there if you're doing it. That sounds like a fajita, though. It does. Yeah.

but aren't all those I'm sorry but the same family and a lot of it is it's just how it's wrapped like a burrito and a taco order but in a tamale and a lot of them are

empanadas open-ended and sauce and sauce and so because a fajita you're kind of using the raw tortilla with the with the cassidia you're grilling it case it would be two rounds four folded in half good yeah

yeah absolutely cut into triangles yeah I don't know what this is uh hey rat my hangout was delectable delights the one with the yellow awning my buddies owned it. Ralph and Sanjay say,

hello, do you have any idea? Is that sort of a greasy parlor? What do we got there? I don't know. Delectable deliance. Is that like the sun? I forget a lot of things. Coffee showing.

I'm Terry. Back, back up. Hey, Rhett. Have you tried the P.B. and J. French toast sandwich yet? Oh, wow. I have not. No.

I'm not. That's very sweet-y. I was going to say, and then if you're putting like syrup on top of that, Powdered sugar. Yeah. If you saw Iggy drink, what was his favorite drink? Oh, I don't think he has a favorite drink.

You'd have the odd beer, maybe a vodka here and there. Well, if you, let's say you guys are out in about, you want to buy Kipper a beer or you want to buy Kipper a drink. Hey, thanks for the memories. Vodka on the Rocks. I think he actually liked vodka Kranz. Bodka Kran soda. Sounds about vodka Red Bulls. Bodka repels happen

on the hot time too. Yeah, sure. You know what? He's a simple man. He doesn't need anything too crazy. No. We'll get him started on the BBBs.

Yeah. Very nice. That'll do it. Thank you for Bontan meets. We're getting so little Ask Red for us. And for everything. Yes. Oh my God.

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Devils have games in hand and are not that far back of the final wild card. Lightning are clinging. Last playoff spot. Detroit's been on a heater. Five goals in points last seven games. He's on a nine-game point streak. But in terms of goals, we'll take it any timer for a plus 135. and Winnipeg at Dallas, the stars.

Won't have Chris Tanna of yet. Sorry, go ahead. What's that? Go ahead. The Winnipeg Jets are at the Dallas Stars tonight. The stars are one, three, and three in their last seven. The Jets have won four in a row. Jets are plus money.

On a money line at plus 110, I'll take the Jets. Because the stars won't have Chris Tanna of yet. Maybe for Saturday. Certainly by next week. There we go. Hold up. Top notch reporter.

I'm going to focus in on the DeKembe Matumbo Bowl or whatever the bulltender in Montreal is. He was an old Panther back in the day, I believe. Chuck on an absolute heater in the new year. Remember you stuck at like eight goals back in December or whatever? You still getting points here there. That's Sternum. Ron Sternum. He's been much better than the new year.

here plus 140 for two plus points. And another guy that's really come on strong in the second half, Yeraj Slavkovsky, who I think we were using the B word with of a bust. He's been excellent of late, really coming into his own. And the points and goals have followed. He's even money to get a single point against Rett's old Pantaros in Sunrise, Florida. There you go. Plus money around the board.

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Yeah. It's finally good to see him not struggling finally. Well, it wasn't a five-on-five goal, though. Yeah. Play that way in the playoffs. So three-on-three there. So with that said, 12 games tonight, but it doesn't mean maybe you're not going to do. Maybe something else will talk.

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Vancouver's 500 since the Lindholm deal. Hate to see it. He's not been tore up. Great. Is he potty there? How could he be potty there? I don't know. Can't be potty there.

So you're not trying? Maybe he doesn't want to be there either. It's a lot of sweets. get to pick. Didn't get to pick. He'll get to pick this summer. He will get to pick. I don't think he'll get to pick his salary,

but he'll get to pick his market. And yeah, Canucks just okay since the deadline and the all-star, since the all-star break in the trade. And the Kings we just saw this will be their third and four nights as the Edmonton,

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And we got talking, I guess, kind of got into the Manjapani discussion and how things are going there. And then I saw he was on X yesterday, kind of interacting with some people talking about Kent. I can't. Talking about Elias Lindholm and the notion of how much money he's maybe cost himself. If in fact there was a high eight, nine million dollar contract from Craig Conroy at some point. Uh, does, does he get that? It's a max seven year deal.

What does it look like? And I guess I hadn't really thought about just kind of out of sight out of mind. I don't really think about that now because it was clear he was not going to get, get nine. I don't know what it looks like now because there's, there's story to be written. He could be very good for them in the playoffs and then earn some of that back. I think that's probably the key if he wants to make that kind of dough.

He can probably go get it with a great playoff run, but not the way he's going. And I don't know. I don't know what kind of vibes you guys have around Vancouver, but this is going to be the first time for a lot of that core in the playoffs, outside of one weird little one in the bubble in Edmonton. And it's like they don't have that momentum they have in the first half. Every fifth puck isn't going in like it was in the fall. I love their goalie.

Quinn uses a star. Sounds like Pedersen's extension is going to get done. He's an RFA this summer one year away from UFA. But like, would anyone be surprised if they got bouncing round one by like a red hot L.A. or someone? like just yeah they don't kind of feels like 2018 flames or like yeah okay you won the west but they don't feel undeniable no whereas you look at Vegas and edmonton and Colorado and Dallas and I'm like I like those teams more than Vancouver yeah sure about the oilers yet either but I mean I'll add but for

but for Lindholm that stock has dropped so if let's say he was a nine guy that's what he wanted and Connie said I can't go to nine he's like well I'm worth nine so nine times eight to be 72 million. And let's say on the market now he's seven and a half times seven. So that would be like 40, 53 million-ish. That's almost 20 million. That's 19 million bucks he's left on the table.

That's a lot of people's career earnings that are. And that's maybe worst case. Yeah, that's the high end and the low end. Maybe he gets eight. Maybe he wasn't getting nine. But even mid-season, Frank was confident his next deal would be a bigger number than Hanifans.

I'm not there anymore. Yeah. Hanifans had a career year and Lindholm's had probably the, worst since he moved to center ice. And you wonder if how much of that is maybe part of the pouting? Sees that he's not. But it's clearly in his control. Again, you still have six weeks in this season.

Feel free to go play your ass off and do something. And if you're one of those last four teams left, everyone is watching every shift and everything is under a microscope. If you could get to a conference vinyl and play well, nobody cares what you did in Calgary in January. nobody teams love playing for guys that playoff performer yes i mean blake coleman here you want two cups in a row and they gave him a six year contract he's a great third liner remember for fernando pasan in edmonton right yeah the third line in anaheim it was moan and paulson and like needemeyer like and it was barclay goodrow

six year deal yanni gourd and and blake coleman like when there's only four teams to watch and all these teams are winning and one of them is going to lift trophy, GMs fall in love with these guys. If somehow Vancouver's last man standing, and if you're the Calvary Flames, you'd love a Vancouver Dallas conference final because those are your two conditional picks.

Vancouver gets to the conference final, the fourth comes the third. Dallas gets to the final. You get an extra third in that deal for TANF. Like, there's your dream matchup there. Yeah, sure. Rooting interests. They're mid-round picks.

I'm not sure I can cheer for Vancouver. I don't hate them now. Don't know if I can cheer for them. No, I'm not cheering. Just for a fourth to a third. If we could have an Edmonton, Vancouver, I would be very comfortable knowing that something would be burning at the end of that series. Somewhere.

And at the end of the day, I know there were some people a little bit concerned that maybe Chris Tanna would go to Edmonton as Craig can't do it. Craig can't do it. You can't do it. Craig didn't do it. ABE in urban Edmonton. So sleep well knowing that Dallas is the final destination. But they could trade him, I guess.

That's what I wondered. someone would go take him. Stars on a trade Tanna. Two firsts from Edmonton. You know what's more likely is Dallas also adding Hannafin? What have they taken out of their prospect pile or picks that they can't now get Hannafin with? They still have their first. They still have their top three prospects.

Like, they still could add to that decoy. What a steal that. And now you push on. What a pickup for a team to add Hannafin and Tana. Because they're a pair. You know how they play. And then Souter and Ler and. Lendell become your third pair and you're like, shit, you're deep.

Yeah, I don't know what the, it's another, we're, we're so tightly focused. I don't know what the outside world thinks of Noah Hanofan. That's two. Tenev's pretty easy. He's a defense first. Play, ah, you love him. He's a warrior. He's this and that.

You're not going to get any points, but he is what he is. Are you, are you needing Hanofan to play 25 minutes? Do you want points? What do you? Because we heard from Frank the other day, the Toronto, not in, on Noah Hannanffin. I think you could still, you could just, that's not a player

that they're in for. Well, they're in Capel too. I don't know that anyone's got a tougher time adding than they do. And for Dallas, the other thing is like, how much captive space did you really eat? Paying for a quarter of what's left on 10th? It's a great trade. It's 25% salary. It really is.

Incredible. And maybe you don't go more than a round. Maybe it's, well, it's not going to be easy, but it's a second rounder. It's still a good. Noah Hannafin's in the top 25 and minutes play per game in the NHL, and he's doing it in tough minutes against other teams' top lines while having a career year offensively, I'd argue.

And so many teams have had scouts watching the flames for so long, and he's looked good for quite a while now, right? This is the best he's looked as a flame. He probably had more secondary apples that year that the three forwards all had 40 goals or the 18th season when that top line had Monaghan, Lund home, and Gujarro because you're just on the ice when more goals are going in. Those are very high scoring teams.

But when you look at where they're middle of the pack scoring, which feels high for this forward group, he's having a really, really great offensive season. Tomorrow, Friday, Wine Shirt Day. I believe we'll have Darren Dregor back. After being off last week, we'll do the great clips inbox if you have questions. Comments.

Comments, whatever about maybe it needs to know about How do you get a boomer t-shirt about collecting wear coats? Something like that. Whatever it is you need to know. There's the email address. Great clips inbox at flamesnation.com. You can get your questions in and we will dig into those tomorrow. Maybe even hockey questions if you want.

I know. We can mix you. Yeah. Dragger a week out of the deadline. That's right. Almost to the minute. It'll be 1 p.m. next Friday. There you go. And we were kicking around before.

Are we doing the show? Are we going to go start later? We're going to start earlier. We're going to go longer. If a Hanuffin deal is done before then, go watch Frank. I don't know what else. Frank will have it.

He got his work done. And if you've seen what Daily FaceUp does on deadline day, your Remchuk will host. They'll have a huge cast of guests that roll through. And right in the corner, they got the insider box where Frankie's just grinding, sweating over phones. Yeah.

What's the conditional pick? Money retained. That's how it is. You want to watch him sweat? They got that for you. Or he's doing something that looks like that. Well, it's lunch. Yeah.

All right, buddies. That'll do it. See you tomorrow.