Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Jamie McLennan Joins The Show | FN Barn Burner - May 29th, 2024

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

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Now, you're not in studio because I felt bad that I was going to have to get into the studio today. But that doesn't look, Jack, does that look like the studio? I haven't been in there for a while. I've been some changes. No, that's not the studio. I'm in the studio. I don't see Rhett. Yeah.

I didn't want Dean to feel bad, so I didn't want to go to the studio to call angst and consternation in his world. Right. thoughtfully missed my flight. Is that what happened? It's a mixed back. It's never dull. The text came through, no, I don't want to speak out of school.

This is in the Barnburner, afterburner chat group. But the text came through last night, Rhett Warner, not coming to Calgary. That came in at 7. 505 Mountain Time, which I believe is somewhere in the neighborhood of 905 Eastern Time, no one flies by the seat of their pants more than this guy. So the plan was because we end to the show, that's Travel Day. We'll see you tomorrow, be in studio.

And somewhere along the line. Listen, I crossed the border. I got through security lines. I had coffee. I heard zones called and I still didn't get on that point okay walk me through this

I drove to Hamilton for my flight life was good got to the airport blah blah blah through security sat down and I got a phone call from someone I'd been waiting to hear from for the past two weeks right oh hey I got

I got you all set up and did you hear on Monday. Oh. Monday. Yeah. Huh. Yeah, it's the only time I could do it. Hmm.

So then I quickly looked at flights because they were calling zones already. That's right, yeah. And it was going to cost me more to change my flight than the whole flight was worse. So back in the truck. So were you thinking? Speaking of still flying to Calgary, but then getting out in time for the Monday thing?

Is that what you were? That was going to leave Sunday, but the cost of the flight Sunday was. Cost prohibitive. Prohibitive. And I really had nothing to do in Calgary. It was coming back to see you. You're, Pender's gone.

Yeah, Pender's not here. And I'm me. I'm not. A whole bunch to accomplish. Right. So here I said. You just left. Did you tell anybody?

No, I didn't. I thought about it. I walked out and I was going to, I went out. I did walk over to the check-in desk, so no one was there. And I'm like, did you hear any, Red Warner? I think it was gone before that. They called the final zone to, so the lineup was still there. So I think it was in my vehicle before that got called.

This must be some kind of a deal on Monday. I mean, this is. It's not for me. It's for my kids. it's in Milwaukee. Milly Wauke. A guy who knows a lot about travel, air travel, joins us. He's our regular Wednesday buddy.

He's Jamie McLennan. To get you up to speed, Warner yesterday was flying to Calgary. We ended the show, see you tomorrow. Travel Day. Going to be in studio. Last night, about 905 Eastern, text comes through, not coming to Calgary. So long story short, he drove from Buffalo to Hamilton. Got into the airport, went through security, got through everything, was at the gate, and then got a phone call.

An important thing is coming up on Monday. He needs to be there for it. It was going to be too expensive to change his return flight to get back in time. So he just left. Back into the vehicle. Hamilton, back to Buffalo. I'm the exact opposite of you, noodles. Yeah, I mean, I was in Hamilton yesterday, too.

I mean, we're doing our shows from the Canadian Open this week. right so you know we're getting i don't know why we were there yesterday nobody was there but it was uh monsoon and we it was raining i drove home and it was like you're going 30 yeah see i would have just can't you change your flight to sunday instead of coming that's it was i only had it was like because i was just carry on so i didn't go early to the airport they were literally calling zones as I walked in. I was right on time, which I was what I wanted. But you could get there. You just needed to get a flight home. I got to get to Milwaukee. And the flight Calgary to Milwaukee,

too pricey. But I also needed to get Calgary to Milwaukee. I also needed a vehicle in Milwaukee if I didn't get back to Buffalo to drive to Milwaukee. So then I just was like, and I wasn't doing anything in Calgary anyway. You should have called me because I'm very good at travel. That's the one thing I am amazing at is I find ways. I make things happen. For the Kippersoft, for example, the Kippersoft thing, I was in Nashville the night before

and I needed to get in during the day on the Wednesday so that we could go for dinner that night. I had my show. I had all of that fun stuff. So I flew through Chicago. I got up at 6 a.m. through Chicago, jumped on the 8 a.m. was into, and then I had to talk to the hotel to get in early so I could do a setup for my show. So I went from Nashville at Tootsie's at 2 o'clock in the morning,

and at noon the next day, I was sitting at the O'Clair, Sheraton, O'Clair, doing my show. And, you know, no sleep, but I was still a pro. And that's the way. And then we went out that Wednesday night, didn't we? Some of us did, I think. I can't remember. did i know that i know you guys did yeah we went to caesar steakost and had a late night afterwards so that was the night that we ended up at cowboys there was nobody in there literally zero people in the building zero the people that worked there and us that was it so anyway and yeah someone in the chat wondering if it if it was too pricey for warner i mean what kind of what kind of price tag was that on a on a flight i was just going to say like this guy made millions in his career i could have done

He doesn't wear shiny suits or diamonds around his, you know, neck and all of that type of stuff. Did I read that Antonio Brown is broke? Didn't that guy make 88 million in his career? Yep. Yeah. It really bothers me to see that type of idiocy. Like, you know, like, and I have no idea of his life. And I'm not judging, but I am judging.

Yeah. But you, you know, I don't know what you, I'm hoping that he's helped every family member and whatever. At the end of the day, like, when you. you've made $100 million or close to it in your career and you've got nothing to show for it. That's on you, man. Like that's on you. And he feels like a guy that made some choices that weren't feasible somewhere along the way. You know what I mean?

And that's, everyone's got their own story. And my understanding, I believe he did come up from basically nothing. He was a very poor kid coming up. And then you give that kid all the money that he could have in the world. He's going to spend it. Yeah, I get it. But, yeah, I don't know. I just think that there'd be enough.

there's plenty of shysters and we've all dealt with them but you would also think that there would be enough upstanding citizens that might go just give me just yeah just a little piece of this just a case instead of spending 35,000 on a private jet to fly an hour when to just get a business class flight for 1200 bucks yeah you know stuff like that like just you know it's disappointing. You know, we've seen it through our careers. You know, you live at a certain level when you're making lots of money. And then when the money stops, you're trying to still live at that level, as opposed to just living at, you know, consistent level your whole life. And, you know, it's disappointing, but, you know, some guys, they can't help themselves. I remember playing

with a guy. I'm not going to say his name, but his wife used to fly to New York to get her hair done. Like what? Like, there's no salons in wherever, Minnesota. Like, it's just stupid things like that. You're just like, and of course, the minute that he was out of the NHL, she's gone. Like, yeah. Well, doesn't your wife go to Phoenix to get her nails done or something, Rhett? What is that?

Her teeth. Yeah, she gets her teeth cleaned in Wisconsin. Teeth are presentable. She's got wood. No, the shubler, she, she pulled a fast one on me, noodles. She said, do you mind if, like, what if I go to this Phoenix? place to get my I don't know what the hell it was

even dental work I'm like oh yeah it must be some new Phoenix dental sounds fancy oh no all of a sudden she's rolling out of the bed at 4 in the morning I'm like what in the effort like she's not up at 4 to hit the gym

like I'm like what the are you doing well I'm going to Phoenix at 4 a.m well I got to catch a fight what the hell are you talking about a flight you thought it was phoenix dental downtown buffalo yeah i thought it was yeah we're going over the legacy it's the phoenix dental yeah yeah see it's the details the details about antonio brown it's those details teeth are like you don't you can't like you can't look like a you know jack o'-lantern right you got to pull your act together

Like I have no problem with that. Like I think there are certain things. Hair are a little bit different, but you need your jibs to be presented. The best part, noodles, because I was a little frustrated with, as you might imagine. Yes. This was like, it had to be end of February, early March. And so you go down there, you get your teeth knocked out, you get fakes. Yeah.

Temporaries or whatever. I don't know. COVID hit. Oh, no. Can't travel. Cruising around with the phonies. Got wooden teeth going. The baked bean, wooden teeth.

That's a little longer. Yeah. She was American, so she still could go down and got it. Well, luckily, yeah. I mean, she could have flown through Florida. You go Florida to Phoenix. There was no COVID in Florida or Arizona. That's what he did.

That's what Warner did the whole time. So I was telling this story yesterday. day. I don't know how we got about it, but we were talking about, you know, COVID and, oh, you know what it was? It was actually ties to hockey because we were talking about Mason Marchmont and we were talking about his dad mush, right, Brian. And so during COVID, I had a Saturday night like poker stars online poker tournament. So all my buddies could join every Saturday night. you pour yourself a beer, you sit at your desk, and we play poker against each other, and on FaceTime.

I created like a Zoom, so I would have, we would have our computer and then everyone would be on their iPad, so you could sit and talk, and we play poker against each other, poker tournament every weekend. And of course, Jerome being in it, you had to keep track of who was ahead, who owed who, like Jerome wanted meticulous account of who was winning because he's so competitive.

So all of us, throughout, you know, Giggies in Colona, Strudwick's in Edmonton, and, you know, Tyson Nash is in Arizona. And he would be, he would FaceTime in from a restaurant. And he would be sitting at a restaurant and be like, guys, I'll be on in half an hour. I'm just finishing my steak.

We're all like, we haven't left our house in weeks, you know. And he's in a full restaurant in Arizona. Like, no mass, no nothing. and he's like, what are you guys doing? We're like, we're just sitting. He's like, you guys are idiots. You're sitting in there. He's like, look around.

He would show like FaceTime, every, but full restaurant, no nothing. And so it was just kind of funny. So we were talking about that. And on the call, Dionne Funuf FaceTime me one time, and we were having a beer. And Brian Marchman joined and we tried FaceTiming Daryl and it was Peter Handlin. There was a bunch of us on the call. And I took a picture of it. And in the picture.

pictures mush. So it just, you know, we were talking about how great Mason Marchman is and how, you know, what a nice player he's turned out to be. And then we were talking about his dad, how big of a killer he was. You know, you knew when, when, when, you knew when mush was on the ice. Like he, you know, he hit to hurt. And so that was kind of how it all tied in. So tied back to travel in COVID where we're all sitting there and Nash is out for dinner. So random story. And you know, just thinking about. on it, Marshman, because you see him, Mason, he's got those same eyes as his old man, hey? Just those blue eyes.

He doesn't seem to have quite the killer instinct, the old man did. He's got the hands, though. He's a nice player. You can see it there. He's been a great fit. I mean, we can start there. It's a big one in Edmonton tonight. I can't believe how that game went the other night.

I told Rhett, we were both on the same page. When it was two nothing and the Oilers are just snot bubble in the stars, I'm like, this is the last friggin thing I need to watch tonight, is Edmonton just. just absolutely floodgate these guys and it's best ever night. And then the second period on, it was a completely different story. I don't know. I don't know if anybody knows what to make of it. The stars had a slow start again, which they are prone to do.

What's your read? What's your take on what happened there? And what is it set up now for game four? Well, so I'm just reading, just before I came on, I was reading some of the changes that they have. It looks like day or a is going to come out. Warren Fogel's coming out and Sam Carrick's coming out and it looks like that Broberg kid is going to go in.

He was a good skater and a puck mover. And then Perry and McLeod go back in. So you know what I like about what Chris Knoblock has done? If a guy's not playing well, like outside of, you know, dry slyt. I didn't think dry saddle was very good. other night. But, you know, outside of the key guys that you just need every night, he's kind of held people's feet to the fire. A little different, Darnel Nurse makes 9.25. He's, and Nurse has not played well. C.C., you know, the analytics people crap on him, but I think

they, what happens is they feed off each other and it's, it's, there's no help there. You know, you have to break them up. I think CC's stable. I think nurse is stable, but I don't know if they can be stable together. They're not. No, they're not. So that being said, you do need, Dallas is not an overly physical team. So what you do need when you've got Big D, which is, you know, Nurse, C, C, C, D, or N, are kind of not, I think nurse is a good skater. I think Cici's a strong skater, but their decision making hasn't been fast enough. So you're going to switch it up back there.

But coming back to the snot bubble, I thought that was just going to be the McDavid night. He's going to get six points and it's going to be a seven to, two, Edmonton drubbing, maybe, you know, maybe Ottinger gets lifted type of thing. That's how it looked early on. I thought the key turning point was you're up to nothing. You get a power play. That's your dagger right there.

You can make it 3-0 and make them uninterested in the game. The game's over right there because you're up 2-0 and McDavid has looked unstoppable. And then the power play, which has been anemic, if that gets going that night, that's it. That's curtains to make it three nothing. They don't have a good power play. They start like that in the second period. It was almost like they said, you know what?

We showed up to play in the first. Dallas doesn't have an answer. Dallas has an answer in the second period. And what bothered me about it is I thought, you know, when there's momentum happening, you see it within a game. But you need something to stop it. A timeout, a big save, a big play, a big hit, something. and Ebbinton in four minutes had no response to it

to the point where now you're chasing the game and you're trying to claw it back and you really weren't able to claw it back. You get the big goal at the end of the second period. I thought that third and fourth line started to push and look like they were doing something. So into the third period you're like, okay, we dodged a bullet.

It's a tie game in our own building. I thought Edmonton looked decent in the third, but you can't give up that goal. I'm sorry. That's the... And Stuart Skinner made some great sense. He stopped Marchman on that breakway. He stopped.

Duchyne in tight with the right pad. There were some saves that the goal he made. But we never talk about the saves. You talk about the goal against. And if you look at it, it's a broken play. Cici cheats up.

I don't know how they wanted to play that. But the two-on-one nurse takes away the back door. Now the goalie, it's on you. And you give up that short side. So you can kick CC. I'm sorry, that was day or an A. Day or N A was on the ice. It was.

So you could kick day or a nurse in the junk. The goal, you can't score from the behind the net. Like that's, there's nobody at fault other than the goaltender. And I liked Stuart Skinner's comments afterwards saying, regardless how the goal happened and he goes, I need to make a better play on that. I can't give up four goals in the playoffs. Like that's, he said, you know,

in the playoffs when you're trying to win, you can't give up four goals. So I'm looking for a response tonight. The one thing, though, is Dallas is a hell of a team. And having hints back, all of a sudden, that got Robertson going. And the one thing I haven't noticed, Jake Ottinger hasn't given up bad goals. And, you know, there might be an Ottinger night where they just don't beat them. You know, that's, so Evanton's got to be, they've got to play this like a game seven.

They can't go down 3-1 because you're not going to beat that team or that goaltender three times in a row, if you ask me. Yeah, there will be some desperation, I think, because they were down two to one to Vancouver. and of course even that thing up, you don't ever want to go down to 3-1 in a series, but I think there would be a much greater fear of doing it to Dallas than there might have been if you did it to Vancouver. This postseason, Evanston, four and one following a loss. And of course, McDavid Drysaitle have been especially good in those games,

those five games after a loss. So I am very curious to see what with Brobert coming in. He's 22, was the eighth overall pick in 2019. He's played some games. He's got 81 games. NHL experience under his belt, but he's not been a regular. And I would think over the course of this season, there's been probably room with the uneven play of the De Harnase and CCs of the world for him to have gotten up.

I'm not exactly sure. And Oiler fans would be able to tell you what's kept this guy from being a regular, but by 22, when you're a top 10 pick, you'd think you'd be in by now. I can tell you is, you know, I watched everyone at Calgary's games this year. I watched everyone at Ebenton's games, everyone in Ottawa and everyone of Toronto. I made sure I had to do that just for my job. Broberg, when you ask me, what is he? I don't know.

Can he skate? Yeah, he can skate. Is he physical? Not so physical. Can he move the puck? Yeah. Like he's, I think when you do a scouting list, there's just a bunch of like six and sevens out of ten.

Like there's nothing that's. Now, maybe he's got a high hockey IQ when he's playing. confident. But the games that I watched him play, he just looked like a player wearing an Euler's jersey, which is fine when you're a young kid. But it, you know, I just sometimes when, and I don't know how you guys feel, if you lay eyes on a guy and you go, God, that guy's a good skater, skater, you know, God, he's imposing. Man, he's smart with the pocket. Oh, he's got a big shot. Like, you know, something will pull you and go, that's that guy's strengths. I think he might just be really good at stuff, but nothing, there's been nothing that I watched him when he played

to go, that's what is, it makes him this, or makes him an NHL player every night. Now, I hope he changes my mind for the Oilers fans sake, but I just, there was, to me, there was just a very average everything, maybe above average, but I don't know what that translates to. Maybe he just needs more ice time and ability to settle in at the NHL level. But in the games I watched, he, you know, it's a seven out of ten, which is good, but you need probably an eight or nine to be a difference maker some nights, right? Day Harney comes out.

I mean, we don't need to fine tooth cone this thing. But there was some thought that maybe it wouldn't be him because he's on their first power play or penalty kill unit. So now you've got to sub somebody in there. I don't know. Is that it? Retro, is that easy to do? Just, okay, you're going to take that spot on the,

depending on how many penalties there are, I guess. But you are going to join, you're going to take that spot on the first team penalty kill. Wow. I don't think jumping into a semi-final game is easy to do, right? You've got to pick up the pace real fast. Right. So whether or not it's killing penalties or it doesn't matter,

you're going to have to chew up some ice time. I think that's the bigger issue. Who knows if he kills penalties? I don't know. Well, the other thing, you could point to, it's not like the penalties have been six, five. No, it's been two one. Yeah. Right. Like you're getting one power play, two power plays right now. Dallas is the least penalized team in the league and the Oilers. Like the game, the games aren't that physical.

So there's been too many men. There's been the double minor by Ryan McLeod, which that was just dumb with his stick placement. So it's not like it's, you know, been a ton of, now watch tonight. the penalties would be 7-6 type of thing. But that is, you're right, if you have one particular thing that he does very well, and Day or N, A, is good on the penalty kill because he's six foot seven. He's got a long reach and he lays down and he blocks shots. But the one thing that has exposed him is his puck play. And, you know, the Oilers now need to get out of their zone quickly and make efficient plays.

And they've chosen him. That's a guy that, you know, that third goal, was all on him the other night. He doesn't get that out on the wall. He's late getting back to the front of the net. He gets to the front of the net. He trips over the goaltender falls on top of him. Yes, you can circle that and say that's on him.

But there's other things that he can do. He could have helped that fourth goal against. He was on the ice. He could have got that up the wall and a little cleaner. There's just things that you probably look into nip and tuck. But I would argue the guy I would circle tonight is Darnell Nurse. and say, we need you to be better. I'm sorry.

Like, you just, you need to be, you need to have a hell of a game here. And I said it yesterday. I'm not a big fan of his play as a defenseman, but, and not to pile on. But there's a history of him not playing well in playoff hockey. Yeah. It's not a one series.

It's not a one year thing. Like, he has struggled, I think, in playoff hockey over the years. So I agree with you. but the one playoff is the one that got him the $9 million contract. Do you remember when they went? Didn't he have that good year? I think it was 36 points in 56 games, the lockout short and season. And we could joke with all the agents.

And I would throw in my agency, Newport Sports, because they, you know, they capitalized on it. Think of the contracts that were handed out in that era, in that area. nurse at 9.25, Zach Werenski and Seth Jones. All three of them, I would argue, don't live up to their $9 million price tag, nine and a half, right? But that was the going rate. Nurse was coming off. He was their number one defenseman who had 36 points, or I believe.

I went 41 and 82, 33 and 71, and then 36 and 56. He had 36 in 56 games in the lockout bubble, and I believe they played Winnipeg in the playoffs. And they had those overtime games where he was playing like 60 minutes in a night. And everyone was raving like this guy's a horse, this guy. And he is. He's an absolute, if you've ever met him face to face, he's 6-4-225 shredded. Like he's an absolute specimen.

The problem is, is where does he fit with the Edmonton Oilers? Because you could argue that when the dust says, settles Evan Bouchard's their number one because regardless of his defensive play, the guy had 82 points last year and he has 22 so far in the playoffs. Unreal. So he's got 82 in the regular season. He's got 100 points this season, 104 points this season alone with regular season and playoffs.

At home would be your two then. So Nurse would be your three at best. So now of a sudden you've taken away power play and pretty much your number one. assignments from nurse it actually should be favor him you're getting better matchups on the ice you're getting better but it hasn't and him and cecy like i was talking earlier they feed off each other but it's been a negative feed neither you know it hasn't been a marriage where it's like okay there's guys that are easy to play with exactly and they feed off each other and they make the game easier for each other these two are not who was like who was the guy that you worked with best

Rett like was Jay McKee. Jay McKee. In Buffalo. In Buffalo, it was Jay McKee. It was easy. And none of, you know, we were just similar. We play, we knew exactly one of the, you know, it's played with the guy. Yeah. I'm sure even for you, it was a goal tender. You're like, there were a certain defenseman, you know what they

were going to do and where they were going to be and it made your life easier. Yeah. It's the same thing with D partners. Yeah. But that's what I look at. Like D have to complement each other. And, you know, like at home, complements Bouchard perfectly. You know, that's, that's what makes that fit.

Bouchard's a really smart, you know, puck distributor, very calm at the puck. Echholm uses his big body to separate. He goes back, absorbs contact, gives contact, long stick. He has got a little edge to him. I look at that second pairing with Nurse and Cici. They don't, they don't fit well together. They both have their own struggles. And what happens is like, I'm struggling. So I'm going to throw over my struggles to you and they don't read off each other very well. I think Kulak's a really nice third pairing guy. Good skater.

You know, yes, he had the blunder in game two. Like that was an absolute pizza, but it happens. You know, that's the one thing that I've noticed about Edmonton is they'll play these like massively tight games, just zero, you know, low event almost. And then all of a sudden it's, it's not a mistake. It's an egregious air. like Ryan McLeod in game seven, they played 52 perfect minutes.

Like 52, like the crowd was already had gone home. Like there was 3 nothing. The crowd had gone home. They had resigned like, hey, 12 shots on goal. It was going to be that night or whatever. And then Ryan McLeod with an egregious air, and that building comes to life and they hang on for dear life. Right?

The other night, Kulak goes through the middle, bibles it, back of the net, and now the onslaughts on. They got to try and claw it back. And that's the, for me, Ebbinton start the other day. Period one, they dominate. And you see the starting of period two, Jamie Ben dumps that puck in and he shot out of a cannon.

And they don't get it back. Like, Ebenton couldn't get it back. And it wasn't, you know, it wasn't bottom fee. That's not Derek Ryan and Sam Carrey. Like that was McDavid and R&H

that weren't getting those pucks out. and that we're standing there watching when Jason Robertson, you know, bats won in. Jason Robertson one-timer. That one-timer, great play by hints, there's four Oilers right there. And Robertson's in the middle for the one-timer shelf. You know, I didn't like Skinner's positioning on it, but he's a little deep, but that's a pretty bang, bang play. So there's lots to chew on here.

It'll be interesting to see how this game unfolds tonight because I think it's, I think it's an absolute must-win for Edmonton. I don't know if a deal was there to be made, but you talk about parings and fits and guys that don't fit. If you take Chris Tanev off the Starz blue line and put him on that pairing with Darnell Nurse, what a difference that makes in this entire series. It's maybe micro-analyzing it a little bit, but you're taking one guy away and we know here what he can do to help other guys

that maybe have some holes in their game, how he can really help those guys. I 100% because what Chris Tanev does is allows his partner to play a stable game too and he takes hard matchups, takes hard slap shots. You know, he's, he's a guy of block shots. He's, I think he's got a great stick. He's in the middle of a, I don't think he's overly fast, but he's overly smart. Like that's really what it is. Like he's always in the right position. If he's not in the right position, he works to get there very quick and needs and knows what

he needs to do. Yeah, his skating is fine. That was the one thing. I think when he came here, it feels like a low, slow lumbering kind of a guy. He's not super fast, but he'll get there. His skating is not an issue. I thought him and Lindell had a poor game one against the Oilers. They were on for the goals against. And they got overpowered a little bit. I think just to, you know, you're settling in. You're just trying to, but I thought they were unbelievable in game two and game three. Like I thought, you know, Tanev is a guy that his reads in anticipation, if you watch him on that power play, he knows that the owners are looking for that extra pass. He knows. So he trusts his goaltender and goes, okay, if you're going to walk on the half wall here,

I'll give you that shot because I'm taking away here. I'm taking away this. Like he's done a really good job with his anticipation. Now that being said, there have been some nights when he played for Calgary, you know, those match, those guys chewed them alive. So, you know, that's, that's what I would look at if I'm McDavid and Dry Settles going, this guy's, this pairing's a hell of a pairing. We've got to find a way to expose them. Yeah. And, but hasn't happened right now, or in the last couple games for sure. And you brought up his name. We talked about him yesterday. Red brought it up. Jamie Ben has looked really strong this playoff. He's, I mean, he's the captain, clearly the captain of that team. And you can, you can just see there's, this means everything.

to him right now. Everyone remembers back in what, 2020 when they lose in the cup final when he was sitting in the locker room an hour after the game was over at his gear. He's been, he's been really impressive for a guy that I thought maybe the miles would start to be adding up and slowing him down, he's looked real good. Well, they're not over, two things. They're not overplaying him. And he's not, he's not like, he's not done. If you look at it, like he even talked about his diet and stuff off the ice, like he's more determined. and now. There was a time there where I thought pace was going to be a problem for him.

It's not. He's fine. So they're not overusing him. He's getting favorable matchups. And he's able to produce. Like he's not just, hey, I'm a legacy player that's been here for a long time. And like he's, he's an impact player still.

Unneeded. And they're using him farther down in the lineup. So he is getting better matchups. So I think it's a, it's kind of a win-win. When you draft and develop that well and have kids basically push you farther down in the lineup, it's a win.

It's a round. Yeah. Like you've got Stankhoven and Johnston and, you know, Hints and Robertson, like, that's the team. That's the guys. What you have for supporting staff is Ben, Sagan, Pavellski. Like guys who are older that can still play, but they don't have to do it

for 24 minutes every night. Now you can balance it out. And yes, I just read that Craig Smith is out. You know, they've got guys that fourth line. To me, the fourth line is kind of interchangeable on both sides. But, you know, they got Douchain for pennies on the dollar. You know, there's been some real, you know, nifty, mifty moves by Jim Nill.

And I said this as a joke yesterday. If Miro Hayskin and played in Canada, they'd be building statues for this guy. Like he's that good. But he just kind of, it's in Dallas. Like, when you watch this guy,

he's an absolute rock star of a player. So, you know, there's no weaknesses in Dallas. It doesn't mean that Ebenton can't win this series, but. It's been very close, right?

Aside from, you know, the blown lead there, it has been very close. I think that outside of that second period, Edmonton has looked very at home in round three. They're not shaken at all. No,

You guys know, I'm, you know, I'm not the biggest analytics guy, but I tracked him quite, you know, respectfully. And if you look at last game even, Edmonton had more high danger chances. Now, you can't, you can't discount the fact that this Ottinger guy, he's probably in the Kahn-Smith situation, you know. I would have him in there. I would have dry-settle there. Yeah. I've had Hayminton in there. You know, Hyman's got to be there, I would think. because the guy's got 13 goals in what 16 games it's ridiculous so there's a when you're in the

final four there's some great teams and great players but i i i'm emminton's got to find a way to get to ottinger that's the one thing because when they got two on him he said no it took him a while to get that third one like and they had some opportunities mac david had a wide open net on the back door missed that one uh hyman had one in tight ottinger makes a right pad save. McDavid on the back door shoots and Ottinger reaches out and hits the shaft of his stick.

Like there was some chances there, but they got to find a way when that's what I would say, I'm the Oilers. If you get a chance to dagger them, you got to dagger them because Dallas doesn't go away and they just keep coming and we saw that last game.

Last night, Florida finally gets to, you talk about getting to him. They finally got to Shasturkin. He's been so good and he was dynamite to Again, last night, the saves he was making, he had the save in tight on Ocpozo, and there was the chance by Teresenko, and Barkoff was in on a partial break. He's just, he's so great, and even still, it wasn't enough. You've got a very complete Florida team, a Florida Dallas series you feel like has kind of been, we're ready for it if it happens.

But, man, for the Rangers, no points for Crider, no points for Zabanajad. But last late, Zabedijad essentially turns that puck over that leads to the penalty that leads to the power play goal in overtime. But yet here's the Rangers. They were the president's trophy winners. But yet it feels like they're lucky to be in this series, given how it's gone. They've gone to overtime wins. Yeah, I mean, and I, at 2-1, Florida had some really big chances and to make it 3-1. And when they didn't, you knew that a goal was coming.

Because that Lafranier goal was, you know, he bats that out of the air, back into the goal-tent. They're off the goaltender into the net. Now you're 2-2, and I'm like, I think the Rangers are going to win this. And Bob's sitting there in a lawn chair. And the other guy is Denny Lemieux at the other end, shot after shot. And you're like, God, he's, like, you can see, like, Shasturk, both of them are really good goaltenders. They're elite goaltenders.

But Shasturkin's got this, this, he's a very active, like he's an explosive goalie. You know, he reminds me a little bit of Jonathan Quick in his, in his heyday where how well he moves his feet. He's no carry price. He's no Ottinger. He's not methodical. He makes saves. You know,

that glove saved, the windmill, like he makes saves. And I love it, but they got to find a way to get to him. And, you know, I will say this,

Florida, and I would say this with all due respect. Like, I don't know how I define it. They're bastards to play against. Like Florida plays for keeps. They're always chipping at the glove.

And, you know, they stop on the glove. goalie and it's a little bump here. It's a little slash there. And they live by the sword, which, you know, that's, I don't mind that. Like, I'm not feeling sorry for, you know, guys who, you know,

Rodriguez, when Truba tries to take his head off, like Florida, that Sam Bennett would do that to anybody on their team. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, there was, it was a big debate on our show, whether that suspension or whatever, regardless, Truba plays for keeps too. Like, they've got some,

some mean, mean dudes on both teams. But Schisturkin is the worry for me if I'm a Florida Panther because he, he might single-handedly steal a game if he hasn't already, where the, you know, the 5-4 win, he damn near, he might have stole that game and allowed four goals. You know, it was that good. But Florida's got to find a way to get to him. I still think Florida is the better team, but not by a mile. They've got a little edge on them.

but it's two too, you know, heading back to New York. And there was the great highlight. I don't know if you saw it after Rodriguez takes the elbow from Trubal. Last night he pulled off about just about the same thing. He had the elbow out coming right through the circle. It would have been the exact same hit if he'd have made contact. Two days after they're crying bloody murder, guy that got hit does the exact same thing.

But yeah, it's zero points for Zabana Jed, zero for Crider. Truba's been on for the last six goals against, than seven of their last eight. So they're key guys. And I know Panarin's been taking some heat. I think he had a couple in the game there yesterday. But their big guys have gotten pretty quiet. It's been good row.

Trochec gets a goal last night. And obviously Lafranier has been great. Yeah. I mean, Lafranier has been probably their most noticeable forward. And kids 22. He kind of has been, for me, he's kind of been lost in the shuffle. It's like, yeah, that was kind of like a COVID first overall type of thing.

This guy, you know, for a couple years, I feel like, you know, Slavkovsky, you know, Lafranier, guys like that who were, you know, chosen either just before COVID and in COVID, maybe took a little bit longer to arrive. Everyone's got their own kind of their own pathway. But like Lafranier, I think wasn't his draft, he was at home, right? Wasn't it a remote draft? Yes, he was sitting at home, yes. So, you know, it's after the bubble or whatever. it is. But you look at it, there were times where I know I've said it or people have said it to

me is like, that guy's a bust. He's not a bust. He's just coming into his own realizing, hey, I'm a pretty damn good player in this league. Now I can try things. I can use my strength and my speed and he's playing with a ton of confidence. I think he's a really nice player. And then, you know, Kedel and Kako, like you talk about drafting and developing and pushing guys or Kandre Miller. They've got some nice young players there outside of the Panarans and Zabanajad and the older guys at Trocheck.

Well, you need the other guys to chip in. You want to win a Stanley Cup. Your top guys got to be top guys, but there's also going to be games where it's like, you need a Barclay Godreau to come through for you. You need secondary guys to make a statement. Yeah, they can't carry you. They're not supposed to be the focal points.

And the reason you're hoisting, but they have to contribute. because your guys are going to have a down day now and again. Yeah, absolutely. But that's when your depth gets challenged. And if the Rangers win the cup, you're going to be, it's going to have to be, you know, Zabanajad or, you know, Panarin, Schestirkin, like they're big boys, they're well-paid boys.

But it doesn't mean that Lafranier can't score a huge goal. It doesn't mean that, you know, Kako can't chip in or Wenberg or Gujarra. We've seen that, right? Wenberg and Guedroves scored goals, critical goals for them. So I look at these four teams, and I struggle because I could make an argument for all four of them to win the Stanley Cup.

And they're all different the way they're constructed and star power, goal tending. Three of the four teams have elite elite goaltending. If you ask me, the fourth team, Edmonton doesn't. But I think Skinner has been, good in his last four games outside of the fourth goal against last game, which was on him, and that's a game winning goal.

So he's got to wear that. And we'll see. He needs a response tonight too. Because Dallas, you know, Dallas with Hintzback isn't taking their foot off to guess. If anything, they're going to double down and go, we need a great start and to continue it on. So we'll see what the Oilers have in far as a response with that. I guess two things we'll let you get out of here.

I don't think it's a surprise that they're going to Skinner, but I was kind of surprised when they went away from Skinner last round, and it did work. Are you at all, is there any part of you if you're the coach? You're thinking of doing the same thing again. And then the second thing is just, what's your gut on this game tonight? I thought it was going to be Edmonton in game three, and it was for about 20 minutes. But what's your hockey gut tell you tonight? My hockey gut told me Florida would win last night and Edmonton would win tonight.

But I think that's just law of averages going in the way I look at it. but there's so many factors that I can make an argument for Dallas and yeah okay now ottinger goes nothing's getting by me tonight guys sorry and or you know Robertson follows it up and goes you know Joe Pabelski gets two on an you know we haven't seen Joe kind of enter the series been quiet right like they've got some some dangerous guys over there so I my gut tells me that Edmonton has the big push is it enough I think it is but again, Dallas is going to have something to say about it. Like they're a damn good team and the way that they're built. And the other thing, too, is they block a ton of shots. Like that game two in Dallas, they blocked 22 shots. Yeah. Like, Evanton, I thought, had more chances and kind of played better in certain areas.

But they couldn't get the puck to the net. And when they got the puck to the net, the goalie's there making big saves. So it's, you know, that's one thing that I think Evanton, if I had to look, at it. Their decision making has to be slightly quicker where guys can't get into position to block shots. It's so funny. How quickly the narrative changes with the dumb media and what we do. Because after

two games, the Oilers penalty kill is so good. We've maybe never seen a penalty kill this good. And look at how they block shots. And I didn't know the Oilers could play this well defensively. 60 minutes later, well, we need to take who's sitting. CC or DeHarnay, somebody's got to go. We're bringing in the 22 year old. We're making

changes. It's just lightning fast, man. But this is why when you're in the third round, this is what's bothered me about some of the casual player, some of these guys who had to be taken out of the lineup. You're playing for your life, man. Ryan McLeod's out there not blocking shots like it's a Tuesday in November. I'm like, my God, like you can be a five to six million dollar player if you become a winner, if you show people to show the sacrifice that you're desperate to win. Desperate, like teams are like, if that guy's ever available, I'm trading for.

You know, you're on, the whole league's watching, watching four teams. And you're on display. And it's like, you know what? I'm going to, he's going to pass it back down the wall. I'm going to go here. Like every play in out there, especially in the third round, the ice has to be contested. Like to get the puck to the net, there should be three different layers of bodies getting there. But it's like, it can't be casual play.

And that's what I saw, you know, from Ryan McLeod, the game before. so he gets taken out. And I saw that from Day Arna. And some of not just day and day or nay, but casual play to start the second period of the air of the Evanton Oilers. And you give up three and three 33. And in essence, you don't get it back.

You know, Dallas wins the game because of it. Are you back at the golf course today or? I am. Yeah. Yeah. You're a big golfer. Yeah.

Huge. Yeah. I actually was just looking at the field and like, okay, do I recognize some of these names? Because, you know, you're going to have to talk about them. But, yeah, they'll be fine. I mean, Rory's here and there's a few, lots of Canadian content. I think there's 24 Canadians playing it.

So that's pretty cool. But, yeah, I'm just going to battle. And Hadwin had issues flying the other day, apparently. So we could ask. Yeah, his clubs got, there you go. It's not. We will have lots to chew on here today. There'll be lots of golf content.

And what were, did you find out what Marner and Brooby were talking about at brunch the other day? Well, you saw I took that picture, right? And then I put it in. You took it. Yeah, nice. And apparently, like, it was, this is the best part. It was trending that day.

And it happened like eight days earlier when Ruby was in town and taking the job. I have no idea what they talked about. I think it's nice when a coach is in town and can take a guy for a coffee and just kind of meet him face to face and BS. And have it plastered on social media within the hours. What's that? Was he pulling a babs and asking pictures? Yeah, I can see your phone?

Let's see what you got here. I don't know. I think it's nice to, I mean, the best part about it is if you can meet a guy, I was talking to a coach yesterday that flew over to Europe and just to literally went to meet a guy face-to-face to have a chat. Like, that's what you're doing.

Because if you're trying to settle in on the job, like what you do is instead of calls, calling a guy or a little facetimer. You know what it's like. You spend an hour with a guy. You can look into the guy's eyes and see if he's full of, you know what or not. Like you can get a good sense in the body language and develop a relationship.

Rett would be the guy. I don't want to meet this frigging coach. What's this coach coming over? How far away do I have to fly for people to leave me alone? It's the off season. I'm a little out of shape. I don't need him to see me. Yeah, exactly.

You show up in a like ski jacket. Big loose ski jacket. Like, sorry, you know. Do you want to take off your coat? No, I'm good. No, I'm good. No, I'm good. I'll just keep it.

Yeah. No, or you could just be like our old gold tender partner, Kipper. Just turn your phone off. And they try and get a hold of you for two months. It's like, no, sorry, no cell service. Yeah.

Well, buddy, uh, enjoy, enjoy the week. Hit them straight. Yeah. Out of boy. All right, guys. There he is. TSN our hockey guy Jamie McClennon

as we get ready for a for a big one tonight, buddy, I'll tell you. Monster game. Are they all not? Yeah, they're all pretty big. Yeah. Because when it's tied to two, two, and then you go to game five. If you win game five or lose, then, you know, game six, then it's somebody, I mean, by then, you know, somebody's facing in or out. Yeah, face elimination, potentially there.

Yeah, some staving, some staving on the way. it's been good it has been good hockey though right i think we were a little let down in round one and then round two kind of bounced back a bit and then it kind of died out to even i was okay well vancouver gave gave people something to cheer about that was exciting and then carolina kind of came back and boston didn't i don't know boston that they won game one i guess but Carolina kind of came back. They kind of came back. It's after it was over.

Yeah. Like you're down 3.0. Jesus. And you know, you think about when you, you know, when you blow terrible. When you blow your load when it's all. Chris Kreider hat trick. They come back in that game six to avoid a game seven.

Did you leave it all on the, did, was that it? Because they are very fortunate to be in this series where they're at. Two overtime games because Florida, the shots, the shot attempts, the chances, all of that has been so heavily. They don't care. What do they care? Go back to the old four run for us.

Do they give a shit? We got outshot every game. That's true. We weren't hand, we weren't zipping it around and holding on to pucks and out. Talented. Were you not? Detroit. Like, what we taught?

The New York Rangers don't even know what the, they'd haven't checked the fucking shot clock like they don't care do you stop it okay good yeah yeah and don't kid yourself like zabanajad had a great opportunity last night and bobrowski made saves right so it goes both ways zabanajad hitting that post in the first period they had they had plenty of chance he went off his shoulder and then the post yeah he got a piece of it yeah he got a piece of it and then the uh and then the crossbar yeah i still think it's forward series. What is what's going on? I got to show it. All right.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. So we're looking outside. There's the lovely neighborhood in the outskirts of Buffalo. No. No. Can't really. Neighbor got a new puppy. Oh, did he?

She? Well, you love dogs. Oh, I was on the wrong house. That's my. Duh. Anyway. So you're going to go over and do some coochie coos? This is great for my kid because now you don't have to bug me, but you know what?

Did I bring this up? The pictures? That they were showing up. Yeah. Because of the, yeah. That sucks. Four years ago right now, you got a puppy. Here's the puppy pictures.

And the thing with puppy pictures, they're so cute. Gorgeous. It's gorgeous. It's a cute boy. Yeah. Well, Rhett, it's interesting. you bring up that because it's time for McLeod Law. We're going to do it a little this day in flames history for you.

Oh, yeah. Peter Klein. He's our buddy. He's our guy. He can be your buddy and your guy too. If you've got some issues, personal injury, disability insurance claim issues, this kind of thing going on, then he will be your best friend. MacLeod-dashlaw.com. If the long-term disability insurance company will not pay those insurance premiums, get on it with Peter Klein. Let him go to work. He'll get that for you, a little piece of mind. You worry about you. He takes care of the rest. And that's basically what McLeodlaw does for whatever your issue is, personal or business. You do you.

They take care of all the rest. And you know when they've got your back, you've got the very best in the business. MacLeod-dashlaw.com. Let's go back 20 years. 20 years today. Game three Stanley Cup final. What happened again? games one and two split came out coming home game one controlled game one the whole way game two

we were a little bit we weren't 100 percent we weren't uh that would have been a big win if we could have had that yeah so coming home first time that there's been a cup final game since one i mean long time long time game three 20 years ago today moves it well the center and gets his own hips. A little fist pump from Rico. Lots there. Only three goals, but lots there. Retro.

As we go back to big man, Saigon of the net, look out. They were some big bodies in their hockey game. He almost took the boards out, big bastard. Yeah. How much time was left when

Rigaer passed it to Iggy? Was it late? It was power play late. We'll see it again. like a minute and change or oh, okay. Under, under three for sure. But man, you forget how loud, that dome was. And Sean Donovan here.

Fallen down. Fallen down. I'm shooting this thing so frigging hard, as hard as I can. Knocked himself right off balance. I didn't remember we had one by three, but I'll take it, I guess. Yeah, sure. John Donovan.

So there you go, a minute and a half left. Okay, it's later than I thought. Because I was going to say, when he said it's over three nothing, like not in today's world. Are you sure? Even Reg. Look at big Reg. God, he's big dude.

Big people. Big dudes. The lineups. Huge players in that series. Yeah. Pabal Cabina. He was on. Dave has cross check and Simon into the net there.

He was a big bastard. Cullamore. Yeah, Jason Cullamore. Mass of humans. Freddie Modine up front, big dude. That was a fun night. That was a fun night. It'd be nice to have that again, wouldn't it?

Yeah. In your backyard? Sure. Yeah. Like it was 20 years today, so it'd be right now. Mm-hmm. Think about the last flames moment you had. And how long ago that was.

That's what happened right now. Not done yet. Also on this date. Also, 20 years ago. Let's go. They've got to tackle their leading goal score with 10 La Cavillier out on the ice with him now along with St. Louis, the big line for Tava Bay.

Aginla back there battling. He and the Cavalier looks like they're ready to go. Oh, God. La Cablee and Aguilinla. Yikes. I don't believe it. The Cavalier and Aginna, again the kind of challenge to the Cavalier and all of a sudden, the Cavalier dropped the gloves. Look at this.

I've never seen Vincent La Cableier do this. as the aggressor Jerome McGillel of fight way more than La Cavalier and Le Cavalde is holding his own here I don't believe what I've seen period Scott Driscoe can I just say that's what's through yeah like amazing stuff you're not going again you're not going to see that like noodles was just talking about these guys the Stanley cup like semi-finals and you're not blocking shots or you're not sacrifice. These two wanted it. Nothing more in the world was more important than winning.

And then the little pop at the end, there's one and then maybe a little late, you know, I'm not sure what the code says about it. But you know what? If you go to if you go to the athletic, Ian Mendez wrote a story because it's been, it was 20 years ago. He went back and talked to both

Jerome and La Cavilliers and guys on both sides. And guys on both sides. just about, how long was it, 20 seconds, right? But the lore of it lives on. When do you see two captains? And the thing of it that year, and they go through it, Jerome did it every round. It was Matthias Olin in round one.

It was Darien Hatcher in round two. Who did he go with San Jose? I forget who it was in San Jose. But he was going every single round. And La Cavalier's kind of take on it, not to, you know, go do go check it out he's like i i kind of you could see how jerome was and what he was doing leading up to that series i could just feel like through the first couple of games that i was probably going to have to be up so he was ready which is why it probably went off as well for la cavalier

as it did i think everybody was stunned i thought i think everybody thought this is going to end badly for for vini la cavalier what the hell is he doing but he hung in there pretty well and i wonder too i've always wanted to get drunk tired you want to me he got it he got into it was not the end of a shift like we're let's get Jerome fresh yeah i don't know where he was but got him fresh he's tougher bastard than a lot of people give him credit for like he showed it in that fight he didn't fight as often as a guy like giggy but when he did scrap he did all right at it yeah that was fun times yeah it's still sheepish for you know like i was thinking about iggy having to do that interview and you can Yeah.

For La Cavier, it's all. It's a great. It's a great. What a memory. For Iggy, there's a little bit of, yeah. Yeah. Didn't really end up how we needed it to. The whole thing, and we've, I mean, we don't, we do not need to talk about it.

And you've lived it. But how definitive winning and losing is, you're a champion or a loser. You've won or you haven't. and you think of the little things that happen along the way, game three, game two, how about game six, little things that would just change the course of history and change everybody's life from there on out,

posting out, posting in. You're a winner. You can't win. You're going to see, if you do 20 years ago in game four early on in the game, I totally fuck up. Cost us. I don't know that I cost us the game,

but it's a play where it's like if you make that play by changing everything. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, details. Yeah. McLeodlaw, McLeoddashlaw.com.

Challenges. Business or personal. They're in it with you. Get them today. And that's what we're watching right now. Somebody, you think about how Zabana Jed is feeling. when he's got the puck in overtime, chance to go up three to one in a series,

you spit the puck across the blue line, and you take a look at it here. He's going to be at the bottom of your screen. He's at center ice, I believe right now. He gets across the blue line, gets it. And it's overtime and just it's a soft little pass. And it just puts his teammate in a heck of a position. And I don't know what, you know, if you're Blake Wheeler, what do you do? Do you haul the guy down?

Do you let him go on a breakaway? Should it be a penalty shot? I don't know. But you're like, I can't let them score. But it's Zabanajad who makes that play in the first place. Yeah. So if you make a better play or if you just send it to the corner, no power play, no power play winner, potentially.

And maybe you are up in that series. I also could have bought Amazon stock in the early mid-90s. Right? He's trying to make a play. Mistakes happen. That's the beauty of the game of hockey. Go back in that game, there's going to be other things. If he scores on that,

Zabandajad scores on that play where it goes off Bobber's shoulder and off the post. Different game then, too. So little details, I'm happy to Panthers won. I don't know why you're cheering for the Rangers. I'm really not. I want the best, I want the best series. I don't think there's a bad series to be had moving forward.

I'm worried about the Rangers a little bit. Oh, I wouldn't at all. I didn't, I wasn't crazy about their performance last round. When they kicked the shit out of Carolina, three games straight. I feel like that was more on Carolina. It was all special team stuff. It was so much power play stuff. Get out of here with penalties.

Let's play. I feel like Dallas and Florida, those two teams. I'm not saying it wouldn't be preferred, but I just don't think that you're talking about the New York Rangers, the first overall team in the league, and all of a sudden they're, we've just like, they're secondary? No way. I make it through. I want Florida to make it through, but it's the Rangers in New York City with the best team,

like whoever, bring it on. Yeah. And if it's Edmonton, then just as long as Edmonton doesn't win. It can be a good series. Be close. Feel the pain again of a game seven loss. like I did, like the 06 Oilers did, go ahead. They did, yeah, they sure did.

Yeah. They have, do you think they had that like Ryan Smith has the same stories and hork off? Yeah. You know, if we had just, if we'd have just won games. If we just won game six. The only difference for the oiler fan in general is the fact that they won way more cups than the city of Calgary. There is that, right? Like you can hang.

They don't have to circle 06. as kind of a one-off right yeah all of their all of their playoff memories revolve around two seasons that's the other one no one even talks about the other one what you like because you lost to montreal yeah but let me whatever you know patroquois whatever is but but but i lost at oh four and one in eighty nine so there was that um because yeah how because carolina was up three one in that series i think they came back to make it yeah i think they were up three to one. And then it was what, Pasani overtime? Don't remember. It's oiler hockey and I was afl.

Sutter was yelling at me when I was working out because the oilers were still playing. It was, I was not. That sounds right. You're in the wrong place at the wrong time. And how dare you be around? Yeah. Go figure you'd be getting in shit for being in the gym. That's a rare, that's a rare occasion, I would think. Bad. You'd be giving you shit.

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Ryan Pinda, Ryan Pinda. The Pinder Report. Panthers, in the, well, it was the third straight game, as we've talked about, that goes to overtime, they get it done this time. We showed you the Zabanajad play, it's a Wheeler, it's soft, it's a penalty shot? Should it be a penalty shot? No, no.

mentally shot, but they go to a power play, and it didn't take long. 13 seconds on the man advantage. For three on the power play tonight. Down low. Score! Sam Reinhard! Tough to defend, Retro. Some pretty high-skilled guys.

I know that Paul Maurice was talking about that. That's just some incredible skill and sets of hands that are out there. You've got Kachuk to Montor to Barkov to Reinhard. Rangers are trying to press. I don't know why Trub was up so high, but. What a shot. Right? And it's a hundred miles an hour.

Zing. And I've watched it a couple times. I don't think it goes off the body. I think it's just roof. Nothing the goal he can do. And they do it all the time. When you have those guys, you do it all the time. Two for four in the night for the power play.

And the one goal by Sam Bennett was it was the one that they finally kind of got through to Shasturken. It was three seconds after the penalty came to an end. So special teams big for the Panthers. Five for 15 on the series, the one goal for the Rangers, the Trocheque goal. It was a power play goal. It was their first of the series. They'd gone 0 for 8 up to that point throughout the series. Barkov two assists, Bennett and Verhegey, the other goals on that one.

And yeah, three consecutive overtime games. It's been very, very close. Yeah, Florida's been better, but maybe it deserves to be. Maybe the hockey gods are saying, hey, look at this. Look, look, look how close we are. All right. Shasturkin's been awesome, though. And as mentioned, zero points in the series for Chris Kreider,

zero points for Mika Zabanajad. If I'm a ranger fan, that makes me hopeful. That there's room to grow. That's right. It's that close. There's special teams have been shit. Wait till our best players wake up now. Look out.

Kind of like Dallas. Wait till Jason Robertson comes alive. We're going to be in good shape. That's right. Well, we'll see. Shifts to Madison Square Garden for a Thursday night game, I believe it is. Today's Wednesday, right? I don't think there's an extra day.

I don't think so. I might go. Anything else from that matchup? Anything else from that series? No. I've enjoyed the hockey. I do like how Florida plays. Yeah.

But if you are a Rangers fan, that's exactly what you're hoping for. Big guns, start putting them in a net. Let's go. Please come to life. Yeah, we need you. My kid was asking me last thing. So what, why are they, is that a rat? Why are they throwing rats on the ice?

Well, it's, it's quite a story, except it's not really much of a story. It's interesting that that's the story that took hold. It was the year of the rat, though. It was the year of the rat. And again, but there was no social media, there was no internet then, how that became to be public, that story came to be public and then was, you know, distributed to the masses and then took hold. It's kind of amazing, I guess. It is, wow. Because what is it?

Scott Mellonby in the bowels of the rink. Yeah, before game one at home in Florida, right before going out for warm up, rat comes running into the room and he smashes it through a wall. and kills it. And then he scores two goals in that game. And Beezer in his interview goes, he didn't get the hat trick. He got the rat trick. Yeah.

And, uh, wait a minute. What, what? What's that? Tell me more. Oh, what a scoop.

What a scoop? And then, but it's still like that's, that's October. And it wasn't like they threw rats on all year. Now, Mel did go on to have, I don't think he got 30,

but he got 27 and no one was scoring. So that wasn't game. one of the playoffs. That was game one of the season? Like game one. Game one of the season. My first ever home game. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah. It was. I thought it was. Yeah. Oh, no. It wasn't playoffs. No, no. It was first game of the season. How about it? So, well, I don't know if you can feel it, but it's tight. It's tight in Alberta right now. And the further north you go, it gets just a little bit sphinctors or just a little bit tighter. Edmonton four and won this playoff following a loss.

They did lose game three. McDavid and Drysidal have led the way in bouncebacks. Five games, 13 points for McDavid, 11 points for Drysidl. Not too shabby. Sounds like Philip Broberg is going to be in as we talked about with McClennon. 22 years old, he was the eighth overall pick in 2019, 12 games this year with the Oilers. He played a lot in Bakersfield, 38 points and 49 games this year with the, whatever, They are the Bakersfield.

Condors. Condors, yeah. And Vincent de Harne is going to be coming out from the looks of things. He's been in that 17, 18, I think it's 1720 is his ice time average. I was surprised because it was him or Cece was what the media up there was saying. Cody Cece is averaging basically 20 minutes, 1958, every night. Feels like too much. Well, that's only because we're talking about that series.

We had a bunch of injuries that you're in 03-04. Yeah. Playing Tampa Bay. And now I'm playing 23 minutes a night. Guess what? Too much. Yeah, it's too much. It's too much.

Except there's, I don't think there's an injury up there. I think that's, but this is part of the problem. Effectly healthy. Yeah. Yeah. You're relying on guys to play above their level for too long.

Yeah. For a game or two here or there. Yeah, okay. But he's not a 20 minutes a night defenseman. Mm-hmm. Darnel Nurse, of course, they do the media in the morning. He came out today and had some two, three word answers. Yes, no, yes.

Thanks, guys. And left before the media had gotten all of their questions in. So he is tight. The Oilers know it feels very much like a must win. But it does also feel like the Oilers have been pretty resilient and pretty good at bouncing back. What a night it's going to be to watch this one. Ooh, Mama. Popcorn night.

Popcorn night indeed. What are we doing? What are we says? What is our ice time tonight? Seven? Don't know what time. Start. Good question, Dean.

Maybe you should have it. 6.30. Mountain? 6.30. Mountain. 830 East. Is that what it is? Think so. You going to be able to make it?

I got to watch. Kids last hockey game for school hockey. And then I can get home to watch. There you go. I won't see the start up to rewind. Yeah. Rewin. it. Yeah. We are still in that. Can you

rewind it? Well, pause. I guess you still press pause. So that's the scoop there. Don Weddell leaves Carolina. It was in the course of a week. Hey, Donnie Waddell, if you want to go look for another job, you want to talk to the teams, you can. Oh, really? Okay. Well, thanks. I guess I'm out in Carolina. I'll go talk to Columbus. Yeah, you're out in Carolina. See ya. And you're hired in Columbus. He is going to take over as the president of hockey operations and general manager. of the Blue Jackets. And he takes over for Yarmalkelein.

He was fired back in February. John Davidson had been kind of steering the ship. He is the senior advisor and alternate governor now. Nice gig. Yeah. He had been the president of hockey ops for 10 of the past 12 years. I think there was those two years. Then he go to the Rangers and then came back or something like that.

He and Jeff Corton got yard it out. Anyway. Well, what kind of a job have you got? You have to turn around a team that has missed the playoffs for four straight years. They've been to the second round once in franchise history. You have Patrick Linae, who's very skilled but hard to figure out. You have Johnny Godreau, who's highly skilled, but did not have a great year. But you got a lot of kids.

You've been drafting high, and you've been drafting a lot. You've been a lot of draft picks. Yeah, but you've done that your whole existence. True. Yeah. Which as we have established, hasn't been the recipe to success to this point. Plus, you've got a destination that seems tricky to get free agents to come to unless you pay a lot to get them. Who's coaching?

Pascal Vincent. Bill, like he, I believe is still the guy. For some reason, Pascal Vincent is, uh, he's on, he's on the chair off the Titanic. I don't know. I don't get it. Neither do I, but I don't know. Hey, Donnie Waddell, he's going to hire a guy. If you were going to, if you're going to put some over,

under money on the next coach to be gassed, I wonder if it'll be Pascal Vincent. You would think that's very, yeah, slippery slope for past. Half the league did just change their coaches too. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So maybe not much money. Nobody's been hired.

Maybe not a lot. Vancouver Canucks, they've made a change behind the bench. Patrick Alvin announcing that Mike Yo. And this year out of us welcome everywhere. He's been a lot of places, but he's been a lot of places. I think it started with Pittsburgh as an assistant with Dan Bilesman. Then he was in Minnesota.

He's been a lot of places. Yeah. And he came in with Bruce Boudreau back in July of 2022. Rick Tocket came in and he gone. So you would think maybe old Rick's got an idea who he wants to be there. That's kind of a, you know, kind of a helpless feeling maybe

if you're that assistant coach. You don't have the connection with the coach, but you're trying to be such a nice guy and such a good guy. Yeah, I just, I mean, you work together. You're going to bed at night and you know both, both guys know, well, this probably is not going to last long. Hey, Rick, want to go for some wings? I'm buying. No. Hey, man, I'm heading out for some swarma. Can I pick you up

one? No. What does he like? What's it going to take with this guy? Fegan. Shit. Congratulations to Anders Lee of the New York Islanders. He has won the King Clancy Award, which is awarded to the player who best exemplifies leadership qualities

on and off the ice and has made a noteworthy humanitarian contribution in his community, which he has done. For more than five years, Lee has been hosting families impacted by cancer at every home game. Each season, he invests approximately 10 grand to host families and tickets and gifting.

And he's got a Christmas campaign that today over $100,000 has been raised to support families during the holidays. So good for Andersley. Those are definite leadership qualities on and off the ice and noteworthy humanitarian contributions. Do you ever win one of those?

Were you nominated for one of those? Or spent more than 10 grand on tickets, I'll tell you that. Yeah. I was like a 10 grand, like a game. It doesn't, it actually, I mean, 10 doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right. Yeah, he, each season he invests approximately $10,000 to host providing families with

tickets, gifting, and meet and greets post game. 82, 41 home games. Cheap tickets on the island, I guess. Get yourself a suite, even if you get to a few games, it's going to pay for itself. Memorial Cup. The London Knights and the Saginaw Spirit are going to battle for a spot in the Cup final on the set. Well, it's later today. It's the final round robin game.

London Saginaw both picked up wins in their first two games of the tournament. Head-to-head winner. Going to head straight to the final. The loser will play Moose Jaw in the semi. The Warriors defeated Drummondville 5-3 to advance to the semi. I think they were up three to nothing and then it got tied at three and then a short-handed goal to go up four-three in an empty net. so hoo-hoo she was a nail bite her buddy night jackson hunger goaltender for moose jaw 49 saves oh big goalies win games it's like we've never talked about that before and i put this little

tidbit in because i thought you might be interested in london nights have been fined one thousand dollars and player soyer bolton has been suspended for a game for a pre-game warm-up violation against moose jaw on Monday. The committee said Bolton made unnecessary contact with the moose jaw player while exiting the ice following the completion of warm up. The suspension will be served tonight when the Knights play the Saginaw spirit. Go away, Bolt's got to get noticed. Uh, you know, I blame the Saganaw rink. Why are these two teams, why are the teams going off in the same? Come on now. Isn't it like the old days when you warmed up with. Yeah, you go warm up, then we'll go warm up. Yeah. Only one team on the ice. Bolton made unnecessary contact with a moose jaw player.

Just, hey, clumsy. He's got an inner ear thing, maybe. He's kind of vertigo. He's got a Bolton thing. Maybe. The Kitchener Rangers have announced that Hunter Brustevich, does the name ring a bell? Yeah, I heard of it.

Hunter Bustavich, he was involved in the Elias Lindholm trade. He was drafted by Vancouver and then shipped to the Flames. So Flames prospect, Hunter Brustevich, has picked up not one, not two, but three awards, team awards with the Kitchener Rangers this year. The Jim Malick Trophy presented to the team's most valuable player. The Bob Schleiman Award, the best offensive defenseman. And the Blue Line Club Award, the player who best embodies sportsmanship. So he's got it all.

Hunter Bristevich. Get excited, Flames fans. This guy could be really something. You see it there. 92 points in 67 games for the the fleet-footed, highly skilled puck-moving Hunter Bristead. Highly touted.

Highly touted Bristevich. Congratulations, kid. Yep. I mean, you win the Bob Schleeman Award. I know. They'll never take that away from you. Well, Bob. Hey, do you ever win the Jim Malick trophy?

Nope. Didn't think you did. I didn't. Jack, did you ever win it? Always dreamt of it. Nope, didn't win anything. Jim Malick Trophy? What about you? You got a Bob Schleeman award sitting on your mantle?

No, Bobby Schleeman. Nope, didn't think so. Good old Bobby Schleeman. And finally, the Calgary Surge are back at at Winsport tonight. They opened their series, remember at the Saddle Dome. Huge crowd at the dome for that one. They are now back at Winsport, their normal home. Scarborough, the shooting stars are the visitor tonight.

Both teams looking for their first one of the year, as the shooting stars are 0 and 2. And yes, the surge did drop that first game and sit at 0 and 1. 7 o'clock game time tonight. So if you don't care about the Oilers or hockey, that's the place to be because the environment and the game action is awesome. If you've not been, this is another one of those things. We're very lucky to have it.

When the cavalry came in, oh, yeah, maybe you should go see a game. Go see you guys. Holy cow, this is incredible entertainment. This is another one of those things. Got to a couple of games last year. Fun, fun, fun, until Daddy takes the T-bird away. That's going to do it for the Pinder report.

You should take the kids down. Absolutely should. Not a bad seat. It's at Winsport. Great concessions. Food, have some drinks, watch some hoops, and they've got the target score thing, which I'm not going to try to explain to you.

Yeah, it's too hard to explain. But near the end of the game, they blow the whistle, and they take the score, and then, however, you got a first, not going to unbelievable the clock means nothing near the end is kind of what it is I think there's still a shot clock but the game clock can just throw it out get that thing out of here tear it down am i right about that jack if i got that nailed down something like that yep yeah yeah details out of board jack you betcha you betcha outdoor dental it's that time of year maybe

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A hard a bit. Hour and a half. So you drove an hour and a half. Drove an hour and a half. Here's my passport. Security. You'd have to do what you did customs at the border, obviously.

Yeah, I was already across. Yeah, you're already through. Nobody is crazy. And then said, nah, I'm just going to go back home.

What did they say at the border? Did they have any questions there? Didn't you? Weren't you flying? Where were you doing here? I missed my flight. How many cartons of darts have you got in the trunk, sir? Can we check the fender wells for the bags of cocaine?

Like, is there any sideways glance? A dog, get that new dog out. They're sniffing. It's fine. It's like Bishemi or whoever was in Fargo. Yeah, I'm not going to park here. Actually, but you've got the ticket. I'm going to need you to pay for the ticket.

Dude, I just got here. Oh, you think you're pretty, you think you're pretty smart. Hey, you think you're a big shot? Bang. I hope you didn't do that. No. Okay, good. Uh-oh.

Good then. Fantastic. Jack, how are we feeling, buddy? Feeling pretty good. Yeah, feeling good. What do you feel tonight? I'm thinking an oilers bounce back. They need to win that.

Oh, my God. Thanks a lot, Jack. Thanks a lot. Dallas and 7 But if it's on green today Just to kind of Quietly and subliminally set the vibe But I guess not

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Jackie Boy putting together our Betway bets. Let's take. All right. So now you did well last night. So you're feeling it. Yeah, I'm feeling it. We did good yesterday. We called the overtime and the under.

Today, what were those stats? Drysettle and McDavid. after a loss you talk it's not important jack okay oh it's enough oil or karma i'll just let people look i'm not going to talk yeah no you can you can for those that are just listening on the right yes you can like david and dry sidled to score i think they they bounced back in emitting and take this one and then we're going to take the over five and a half total goals skinner will let up a couple softies but i do think the oilers come away at the win yeah not a ton of value you on the five and a half there, but feels kind of safe, but hard to say. Yes,

in so far this postseason, to your point, Jack, after a loss, four and one is the Oilers record. So they've been resilient. McDavid, 13 points, dry sidel, 11 points, respectively in those five games. So it's pretty good. They bounce back. Good up bouncing back. there's your betway bets for our buddies at betway bet the responsible way with betway and there it is create the new account scan the QR code and if that first bet doesn't quite come through for you you'll be able to go back in once again courtesy of betway so tomorrow are you flying to switzerland i got to switzerland tomorrow okay and then back to michigan for memorial Cup and then Miliwakee.

And then Milwaukee. Yeah. Interesting destination, Milwaukee. You don't hear a lot of people saying, oh, I got to get to Milwaukee. Brewers. Huge. Big brewer fan, eh? Mass.

Yeah. I still got that slide there with the. I hope so, because I can't wait to get on. Yeah, the mascot goes down there when they hit homers and stuff. Diggers. Hitting dingers. Yeah. Hitting dingers.

Did I ask you what you think is happening tonight in this hockey game? Uh, I don't want to answer. Okay. It really feels, because we, we got noodles and we got Jack. Well, shit. That said, we're a collection of dummies. And if there's a bunch of guys that could really be wrong, it'd be us. Usually when we have a consensus, there's a good chance we're off.

Yeah. It's the wrong consensus. We'll be back tomorrow. And rumor has it may be another Pinder sighting on Barnburner tomorrow. very excited about it yeah just bumped can't wait

yeah can't wait do you want to do your thing just maybe some good karma before we yeah I'm not sure you knew but the oilers they suck see you buddies