Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Jets Lose 11 Straight… Something HAS To Change 😬 w/TSN's Darren Dreger | BB Clips
Episode Date: January 10, 2026Boomer, Pinder and Rhett are joined by TSN’s Darren Dreger to break down the Winnipeg Jets’ brutal skid, now sitting at 11 straight losses. What happens next for this team? Something has to give, ...and Dreger speculates that a trade could be coming — but just how big will it be? The guys discuss whether a major shake-up is needed, what pieces could be moved, and how desperate things have become in Winnipeg.VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/77oCqtsqs_s#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #winnipegjets #winnipeg CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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It's now, what, 11 straight losses in Winnipeg.
They had a 3-1 lead late in the second.
They give up a McDavid goal before the break
and then a couple more to lose in regulation.
I watched the Arneal Presser last night just to see, you know,
and obviously he's frustrated and is, you know,
hasn't shaved, has got the furnace face going, he's all red.
It feels like, and I don't know,
I don't know who comes in and replaces,
but it kind of has that feel like almost like Edmonton when they were in that
tail spent a couple years ago to start the season.
It's like, well, we just, we're going to, we need to do something.
And I guess it worked.
It feels like the Jets have to do something.
Yeah.
But for me, it feels more like a trade.
And how significant a deal are we talking about here?
You know, shovel day off in his midseason availability talked about wanting to add
scoring.
Okay, well, what are we talking about?
Because any scorer in the NHL with term left,
and Winnipeg really isn't interested in rentals.
They want a player with term.
When a productive forward isn't likely being traded,
who's got term remaining on his contract.
So a lot of teams, including Winnipeg,
have either just gone through,
they're going into their pro and amateur scouting meetings.
And they would have whiteboards all over those boardrooms
with names from every team in the league.
Could this be a possibility?
Scouting staff, what do you think?
Find me a young up-and-coming player
that maybe hasn't quite popped yet.
and needs a fresh start.
Like a Zegra says an example, right?
You know, he goes from Anaheim to Philadelphia,
and Rick Tocke, you know,
clearly is getting what he needs from Trevor Zegris,
and there's a willingness from Zegra's perspective
to learn how to be a better player than he was in Anaheim.
I think that that's really what Winnipeg is looking at
before they're lucky at axing Scott Arneill.
You know, he's got a bit of term left on his deal.
The general manager, shoveled a-off,
he has term left on his deal.
He's too good to get rid of shovel day off.
He's done a good job there.
He has done a good job.
President's trophy last year.
Man, it's crazy what's happening.
So what do we talk about then?
You know, we're talking about trying to improve the roster.
And that's where it gets really dangerous and tricky.
Because if you're looking to add a piece that's going to matter, who's in that deal?
Logan Stanley?
Is there another younger piece?
Like, you know what I'm saying?
right? I know exactly what you're saying.
You can't keep throwing first round draft picks out there.
My response to you is what I told.
If Shevoldeoff cared what I thought,
it would be like, it's the same thing I said to you about Bill Zito.
Yeah.
Don't do anything.
So, yeah.
This is not your year.
Like, you're at 35 points right now.
Yeah.
You need 60, what?
You need 58 points the rest of the way?
And again, the silver lining is, oh, shoot, we had an awful year.
go picking the top five, that would help them a lot.
You get a Verhoff or like Stembourg, Mechaner.
Like that's the, that's the fix.
So you guys get another draft pick the other way.
Yeah.
And I honestly, based on the players that I'm seeing play, you know, they're testing.
They're maybe not doing it enough to keep the media and the market comfortable in Winnipeg.
They are looking at the Manitoba Moose.
And you're seeing players come into the equation now at the expense of older guys.
you think Nino Nita Ryder is happy
that he's been a healthy scratch? He's pissed.
No, he is. But that's a veteran player
who doesn't feel like it's fair,
and that's not the right approach.
Gus Nyquist, not happy.
He hasn't scored a goal. He's got zero goals
for Winnipeg.
Luke Chen is another one.
Like, Luke Chen, to me, is a tradable commodity.
You know, you're going to get him for a deeper draft pick, right?
You know, he's slow, but he's still got a level of toughness.
He still can defend.
There's a team that will have interest in Luke Chen.
For me, that's what I'd be doing, Red.
I wouldn't be trying to do anything drastic,
but I'd be moving out some of these older pieces and trying to figure out what you have.
Like Brad Lambert has wanted out of Winnipeg reportedly all year long.
I mean, he's got pace.
This kid can skate.
He obviously doesn't fit the eye of Scott or Neal,
or he'd be playing in the National Hockey League, you know.
Billy Honola, like go down the list.
So I think that's probably more of the direction we're going to see Winnipeg going
and is making sure they know what they have and what they don't have in these young guys.
I just, we looked at it because the Flames said Montreal two nights ago,
they're the youngest team in the league.
And while I was looking at how young in the flame, like, oh, shit,
Winnipeg is the oldest team in the league.
Oldest team.
And if you tell me that they're playing slow and they're not going to get a
viz in a season from Hallibuck and they've only got three guys that are scoring
and everyone else seven, like, yeah, they need to get younger.
Agreed.
And again, the trick.
part is how do you do that. You stand, Pat, you don't trade your pick away. I think maybe I've told
this story, but it goes back to the Eric Stahl draft in Carolina eons ago, right?
Paul Maurice told the story, but he was head coach of the Carolina Hurricanes at the time. Jim
Rutherford was the GM. They had an okay start to the year, but things started to trend downward.
And by the midpoint of the season, January 1st, you know, I think they were out of the playoffs at that
point. And Rutherford literally went to his head coach, Maurice, and said,
sorry man you're not getting any help there there there there is this kid stall that i've got my
eye on and if we've got a shot at drafting this guy we're drafting that guy so i'm not making
any trades to make this team better and if i do make trades it's because i'm positioning us to make
sure like winnipeg is going to be a lottery team right they're going to be a lottery first
this is where the gm hat gets fun
to have on and I'm I was just going to say
spoiler alert they did get stall and then they won a Stanley
Cup if you want to know how that story is
draft and I work up when you
when you look at the bottom of the standings
in the NHL it's all Western
conference teams wow this is the concern
as a fan of the Calgary Flames
where you can push pause and you can kick the can
down the road but what happens if
Winnipeg trades someone
and to the team you think you're going to move
a guy to and now you're getting peanuts
and now they drop further
and they get McKenna or like
Vancouver and Winnipeg are positioned
to get two high picks
and who's the other team
that's right there too like
you're talking about teams that you're
going to have to play down the road
that could position themselves
better like wow
that is a huge gamble
I know St. Louis
Doug Armstrong man he's an old gunslinger right
and Robert Thomas's name has been out there for a while.
Well, why is it out there again more recently?
It's because Army's got the bait on the end of the line,
and he's not fishing for just a middle of the road sort of return.
No, he's looking for a team that is maybe overachieving a little bit
or feels like, okay, we're a playoff team,
but a piece like that is going to really give us a push,
especially in the east.
That's what he's fishing for a return
that includes probably a couple of prospects
or a high pick, right?
And so far nobody's biting on that.
But that's why you do it.
And another part of the reason why you do it,
yes, it's because of everything you just said,
but Doug Armstrong is smart enough
to look at the Western Conference
and go, well, even if we write the ship here,
there's no bloody way we're going to beat
the Colorado Avalanche or the Dallas Stars.
and we're probably not going to do well against Minnesota, to name but a few.
So what are we doing here?
You know, it may not be a full rebuild,
but let's move out some pieces that have proven that they're okay players,
but they haven't proven anything that they're going to lead us into a deep position.
So let's cut bait, and that's what he's doing.
McDavid, McKinnon, Baudard.
Celebrity.
Celebrini.
Who else is out here?
That's good.
Anaheim has some stars.
It looks like they're going to be.
all right.
You've got some superstars.
You've got to get to the Dallas stars organized Minnesota, Capriso,
like, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Let's, oh, whoa, we get in.
There's a channel.
Dallas is going to be a player here, right?
By a trade.
I mean, yeah.
Again, money?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And everybody.
You know, Dallas is like Vegas, like Colorado, like everybody wants to go there.
So even the players that we don't even know we're going to be.
available to the full trade protection.
Hey, we got a call
and Dallas is interested. What do you
think? Yeah, bags are packed.
Let's go. I don't have, I'm,
I would be a terrible GM apparently, because I'd
be like, I'm not going to sit here
and wait this
out and hope that it comes to me.
Like, I'll be damned if
I'm not going to get somebody
in return. You're not, you're not wrong,
but, you know,
there has to be a partner
in that process.
