Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - KEEP THE TRADES COMING 🔥 | FN Barn Burner - June 24th, 2025

Episode Date: June 24, 2025

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Hey, look, it's us. It's us. We're here. We're ready for a exciting show. I walked in. I was kind of late getting here today. Sorry, boys. Are you good?

And I hear as I turn the corner walk into the studio, might be with a shortest, my show to show or ever. A short show ever? It could be a short show, short show. Oh, we all need challenges. Is today a challenge?

See you, buddies. Yeah, it could be. You know. I think there's lots to talk about them. Oh, good. I'm glad you've compiled some things in your notes. I've done a lot of round one draft stuff. Look at all this.

Look at all this. And hockey hall of fame day. We love talking about the hall. God, this is going to be a nerdy show. Let's go. Hockey hall of thing. Today's the day they vote. Oh,

announcement. Are they going to slowly release those names? Yeah. I think, no, they'll do it all at one mountain, I believe. They were smart. They'd give it to some of the Panthers and let them add their spice to it. That might make it. it a little more excited. You get down into the tropics, let the Panthers announce it,

slurring names from pools. They're really, they're flora. They're proud of them. They are really florin it. When was it over? Tuesday. A week ago ago, my heavens. Yeah, like six days because it would have been a game day morning. Yeah. But yeah, it's an impressive run. Young athletes team, they're very well versed. Do you, now I think the body through the ringer. Dumb question because I know the answer, but for the people that don't know, the rest of people, you'd be able to hang with these fellas in your prime today no in my prime 100% yeah there you go you might be leading the charge i would have right in you wouldn't have been afraid to get on stage at 11 there and make some proclamations

although i don't like some movie quotes i like attention but i don't like big crowdy attention yeah i think the problem now the difference is that there's camera phones everywhere yeah you get up on stage and say anything and not remember the next day and now it's going to be on the internet i've heard that a little bit people are these guys it's it look at are all drunk and And Dre is, I don't think it's the Florida Panther social media team that's putting this stuff. That's true. Yeah. It's people are around where they're around and they're taking photos and videos and putting it online.

I don't think it's the path. They're saying, hey, please pay attention to us. It's we're in it. So these aren't staged communications director. Like we're going to get you on stage. We're going to pour the bottle of champagne and then say this. Not that coordinated. It's hard to say.

Might be some sponsorship opportunities. Product placement. Right. Be all right. welcome to the show it's a presentation of bet 365 speaking of great sponsors download the app get in the game use the code nation when you sign up if you haven't already be 19 or older please play responsibly whatever your bed is it's never ordinary at bet 365 and yeah super chat money raised for the use centers of calgary if you're in the chat today you put a comment in and drop

some coinage we'll put your comment on the show yeah and then we'll uh Take that dough and get it over to the youth centers of character. We won't hold it. We'll just move it right along. Moving along. Waste it on dumplings or pizza or beer. Have you delivered that? It's sitting by my sink still.

Yeah. It's a sink. Sink sitter. It's right there. To one of my kids nabs it and buys Zara Patch kids. Got it. It'll get to the right place. Opening statements from McLeod Law today.

Just in case. Marchand needs some legal help. You ever know, things could go sideways. They're the best. Calgary-based, Calgary-born, Calgary bread. The Calgary roots, they run deep here in our city. They care about the city, which is kind of nice. Yeah.

You don't always get that vibe. Oh, so is that in, so that's in Calgary, is it? That's the CN Tower in their commercial. It's definitely not Calgary. Are they acting like this is a tough guy movie? Yeah. Weird. Whether your challenge.

is business or personal, they are the best, they are in our city, and share a commitment to make a positive impact on said city. Playing the video a little earlier, the spitting chicklets guys had. Dinehart, Kachuk, and Marchand, who poked his head in there at one point. They are continuing to roll. They were in a pool and well into it again. They're making this look easy. I'll tell you that. It ain't.

I think that there's a, because it's kind of started, well, they didn't start, but the very kind of public. Remember when Washington won, they were in Vegas. Fountains. Into the fountains. Hammered, doing keg stands. It felt like that kind of set the table. So now if you're the cup winner the next year, well, we've got, we can't be the lame cup champ. Right.

These two Panthers teams have I woke up earlier. They have they? Again, I don't know that they have said. that to me. I wonder if the mid-80s Oilers could have kicked the shit out of anyone and we didn't see it. And the other thing was in 1994, Mark Messier

and the Rangers did lose the cup at a strip club and that would have been a ride. But they didn't have camera phones. All I'm saying is that we privy to all this and it's great. If you like it, wonderful, but it doesn't mean they're doing better than anyone else. You're probably right. Yep. There's probably some merit to that.

Some people are suggesting that this is tarnished. Here's the shitty part. Here's a shitty part. What's going to happen is something is going to go south and all this is going to go away. That's why we can't have nice things. Nope. It's typical and it's Debbie Downer. I woke up really

early, so I'm probably poutypons. Did you? Five bells. Really? I woke up at five. I swam across the lake. I ran some hills. I did some deep knee bins. What do the neighbors think when they see a 5 a.m. Swimmer? Oh, they're inspired.

They're cranked up. Who is a go-getter. Who or what? Who is that? 911. There is a man drowning in the Newtenzie Lake. It appears he's naked and drowning. Can you hurry?

So you swim across the lake or into the lake and back? To the beach. Run up the hill five or ten times. And then I run back down the hill and then I swim back. That's impressive. It is impressive. Good for you. I just roll over and go back to sleep

if I got up at 5. It's a different tone than last week when you were bemoaning your age. Oh, it's awful. Today's different, different you. Look at you. Yeah, look at me.

New Tuesday, new rat. Go to be inspired. You buckle up. Happy for you. What were we talking? Just the cop parties. Waking up at 5. You've been a go-getter.

I can tell you with the party without the cup. Cup is still a party, but it's not the same. Not the same, ain't quite as good? Oh, well. Don't worry about that. Did the cup get down to the tropics, or is the cup getting repaired now? It needs a little... I think they eventually take the cup away. I mean, I know everybody gets time with it, but I think there's like a few days. I got to go restore that thing for a couple of weeks and then get it on to the summer circuit. I was at Cam Ward's Cup party the year that Carolina won it. And even that night, the limo rolls up, and he had won the Kahn Smythe that year as well. So the Kahn Smythe trophy comes out and goes into the second.

Wow, this is amazing. And then he gets the cup and it's the Stanley Cup. And it's sitting there and you're just holy cow, right? Yeah. And then the night begins and it's getting lifted and then people are drinking out of it and drinking out of it and drink. By about one or two, it's sticky. Oh, yeah. And there's stuff.

It's like, you could put it away now. Yeah. You can, I think it was Mike Bolt or whoever they. guy was the keeper of the cop of that. For Phil Pritchard, yeah. If you, uh, yeah, you can take that, put it to bed now. It's, let's give that a shower. And that was that was from about 6 p.m. till 2 a.m.

Right. I would think by day two or three, it's great having that around. It's like, yeah, sanitize it by replica small. Yeah. Yeah, I'll just, I got a Yeti here. I'll just use this for my booze, I think. Kiss it through saran wrap. You don't actually want to get your lips on it anymore.

Yeah. But the cup is theirs. Yeah. When does, is it the draft? Is it July? When does the new cycle start? When is it like,

my curiosity was like, I, if you've got a wife and kids at home. And how long? What's, what's the hall pass? Yeah, what's going on with Marchand and his family right now?

Like he's, you've got kids, you've got a wife, I imagine. It's fine. It's not a, How many days? Yeah, it's a curiosity thing.

Probably everybody's different. Maybe they're all with their families now? I don't know. Yeah, it sounded like some of the families in the Bahamas or wherever they were. Yeah, I think you probably get a, you get some time. Like it's all depending on the spouse. Like everyone has different types of spouses. Yeah, there's a different amount of leash for each guy.

And at the set, each one of us are different. Some of us might run. a little longer and harder than others. Don't look at me. You're both looking at me. Some might be more behaved. Others may be less behaved. Nope, still looking at you.

Okay, damn it. Just put the one. We could just go one shot and ride for all that sort of stuff. Yeah. I'm just saying. That's why they don't let me win the cup. I wasn't good at hockey. That was my curse.

Yeah. That's great. But draft coming up. Oh, that'll be good. Are we going to party after? Like that's our cup, right? That's when we realize we're going to get the cup in Calgary. I went through the process of writing the order down today.

And boy, there's a lot of teams before the flames pick for a team that we, like seven, more than half the league is going to pick before they get up there. You know what? You're such a negative D. Just they got a nice, they got two in the first, got all kinds of razziness. Rasmus Anderson's in the... Yeah. There's some teams that are looking to trade in the spots.

That's hard to see. That is the entire order from the first round, including some news this morning at the 12 spot. Yeah, which we see updated there. The Rangé. The Rangers, they needed to get back into the J.T. Miller business. So they shipped

a pick and it belongs to the Pittsburgh Penguins by way of Vancouver. Yeah. The first rounder went to Vancouver for J.T. Miller and then Vancouver immediately, flipped it for someone named Pedersen. Yes. And so New York had the choice to keep this one and surrender next year's pick.

But that's a bit of a dangerous game because it's a Gavin McKenna year. And if you look at who's picking one this year, I don't know it's crazy to suggest that the Islanders and Rangers could be in the same spot next year, at least in the standings. And maybe you get like, you can't lose Gavin McKenna on a chosen pick to go. That would just be the peak pain.

Ropen Vegas can do it. I read someone's take this morning. I said, yeah, because now the Rangers can keep that next year as potential. shall fodder for trade to load up at the deadline for us. Yeah, it's one way to, sure. If they're good, yeah. It's one way to look at it. Or a bing ball.

Or just not to get ramrodded. No, look, they still got Ego Schisturkin. They still got Adam Fox. Sure. They still got Mika Zabinajat who needs to be better. J.T. Miller was good there. They could be good, but yeah, they could also be very bad. Look, they could be the Nashville, Boston, Utah of Islanders of this year.

So Pittsburgh goes 1112, back to back. so to the Montreal Canadians at 1617 because of that 16 pick, courtesy of the flames. Yeah, well, we didn't like Monaghan. But then at 18, the flames, you know, right there. There it is. Jersey. Mark, he was going to make that pick real late, except that he didn't.

And thank you for getting injured, Jack Hughes, Dougie Hamilton, Yonis, Sagantheller, etc. Thank God for that. Oh, big time. Yeah, imagine if you had, oh, we got two firsts. We're going to be in the top 10 and we've got Florida. And it's like, oh, and you're picking 27. and 32. Oh my God. They're second rounders.

So just count as I believe that's 11 first rounders that were traded. Looking at that there. There are 10 teams that do not have a first round pick. Vancouver is one of the teams that is traded and has one of their own. Again, the JT thing. We just walked down. Rangers don't have a pick. Devils don't have a pick. Wild avalanche, lightning, Leafs, Golden Knights, Stars, Oilers, Panthers.

Doing a lot of sitting. Good thing they're not going to a drive. Do you even go Friday? Yeah, I guess you, no one's going anywhere. You got the war room going. You're just sitting around waiting on your couch. Yeah, you got to be ready. What's around two?

9 a.m. Saturday. We'll see you then, boys. Just the case someone comes through down the faxes you a big trade offer. Right. Craig Conroy, you're on the clock. Just a second. Yeah. I'm sure that sounds still hold.

100%. Faxes for sure. Yeah. Let's see you still pay debts, right? Facts and checks. So much like we've had mild conversations, you know, because the flames take their two picks

and maybe move up. Yeah. That's what they're saying in Montreal. Could the Habs take those two picks? And Pittsburgh now is saying, hey, with those two. Yeah. And look,

if you're Nashville, if you want to throw that back up, you got three first rounders. They're probably saying, let's take our lower two first rounders and move up. And I don't know. If you're Boston, what are you trying to do?

Do you need a pick at seven? Or are you saying, let's get a roster player? we're not rebuilding. You probably hope James Hagan slides you at seven, to be honest. Probably. Utah. Everyone says they want to be really good.

Well, you could trade four. She'd trade four right now. Get some roster players. Maybe Noah Dobson goes there at four and the Islanders could take Hagen's at four. Islanders say we're not trading the first. What? They came out today, I guess, and said, no, we're going to pick. Yeah.

We're going to pick. But they got Dobson to Dengel. If you're going to take Schaefer first, do you need Dobson? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. This Shafer kid came from nowhere. It's all right. It was first overall in the OHL draft,

wasn't he? Oh, wow. Yeah, he was. And then he won under 17 World Junior Challenge, one U18s and then won Ivan Holinka. So gold, gold, gold, and first in the priority draft and going to go first in the NHL draft. Winner.

But he was not like a high guy in preseason lists in the sense that it felt like it was, Higgins was the unanimous one. It's a boring draft class. Oh. Is it? I don't know. And it seems to be hyping it up. Yeah, I don't know.

Number one D man there is sort of the projection on him. Yeah, great. So you get it, Buffalo got two number one defensemen. What's that? How's that? Yeah. I mean, they're kind of the example of even when you pick good players, if your organization has run poorly and you don't have good coaching and GM,

you're going to suck. But they do. You're right. Like, Eckblad went one and he's not a superstar. Now I have to just argue with you because this is what we're supposed to. No, Buffalo's not well run. That's why I think it's a tough. You're right.

But also, if you get the first overall pick, as good as Schaefer might be, you're hoping for something different. Different than a higher regarded first overall pick. Than Powers. Yeah. Dahlene, I think is really good. He's talking about, yeah. I'm talking about this year, too.

And who knows what Schaefer turns into. No, it's not McKenna for sure. And I don't think it's even going to be at the DuPont level. But, yeah, he's an unanimous one. Yeah, sure. And it's not. Yeah, it's not a shot. It just is one of those things.

That's fair. And you're starting to see in the top, like five and six, like, oh, he projects as a second line center. Like, oh, I was hoping to be a number one center. Yeah, we got the top. This is the issue with draft. You don't know the draft class. Hey, we need a top five pick.

You got number five third lines. Speaking of the Sabres, Matthew Barnaby, now that there's a lot of talk about the sabers. What are you doing with your picks? What are you doing with your team? What are you doing with the way? What are you doing? What are you guys doing?

Barnaby, who of course is a podcaster and a former player, and he's going to be on our free agency. He's a man around town. Talk to a team regarding Petrka. They said, very doubtful they move him, also said, very tough team to deal with. I believe that. They're afraid to lose deals because they've lost a bunch.

So, uh, the other thing with Buterca I read yesterday was he had the highest shooting percentage at five on five ever recorded, aka you're never going to get that lucky again with, with getting Pucks past goalies. Like, you're due for huge regress. he's a great shooter, but like, is he shooting considerably better than Alex Ovechkin's

career average? Probably not. He did last year. He's due for regression the wrong way. It's another, and it's on the flip side, it's also one of those things. What kind of a lens do you use when you're evaluating Buffalo Sabre players? Totally. Yeah. Are you this or are you this? Because you're

there. You know, like what do you think of Sam Ryanhart before he left, right? Yeah, he couldn't play in the league. Wow. He's a good player, but is he a superstar. I don't know. And then he goes to Florida. Oh, he almost scored 60 that's a lot of goals jack ikel number two whatever that's pretty good player or on a better team are you not getting the ice thing who went to colorado uh middle sted yeah right like there's the other side of it i yeah my thing with peturca was

being in buffalo and watching a few games i didn't stand out ever he was never the driver of anything around it he's young and he's clearly offensively talented but he's not a good defense player. It doesn't share the puck well, apparently. So I don't know. Look, he doesn't want to be there, but they're going to ask for a lot. So how does this end? Well, he's not really close to UFA.S. So they could probably say show up to camp or you're getting suspended. Are we going to turn this into a Debbie Downer podcast?

Not at all. How do you hate the sabers? No, I don't have any emotion about the sabers. No, no, no. But I brought it up yesterday. And I continually do it and I'm going to beat it about the head. It's going to be the MLB. No. Yes, it is.

Just for context, I looked yesterday because you mentioned it. The lowest payroll in the majors is one-fifth of what the Dodgers spend. This league will never be anywhere close to that. It would be very hard for a team to have half the payroll of the top paid team. In fact, the floor wouldn't allow you to do it, I'm guessing. But I get what you're saying. There's have-and-have-nots, a little more of a gap between it. There will become a situate.

Oh, hang on, hang on this, maybe I don't know. Yes, there's going to be halves and halves. There already are, and it's only becoming more. and more and more. And I had a friend who's, and I'm a jerk. I had a friend who landed in Winnipeg the other day and was like, this would suck. And this is not a hockey player.

This is a person who's just like, how in the F do you get anyone to play here? It's not June. And it's June. Yeah. About as good as I get. Now, just won the last in the regular season. I'm not saying they can't operate a team.

but their revenue. And I get challenges. There are challenges. Buffalo loses millions of dollars a year. They can't create the sponsorship revenue that other. To get to the cap. Did you see what they did with the Taves deal? They gave them a $2 million base.

And even if they get to the cap this year, which is like 94 and a half, any bonus overages, which is most of the Taves deal, would fall into the next year. The next year the cap's like 104.5 million. There's no way they're going to that. Like bonus overage the shit out of that season.

We're never getting close to the cap that year. That's fine. Yeah, they don't have 104 U.S. million to spend on salary. That's what I'm getting there. Buffalo's not going to. Frank said the Calgary's. Now, we always assumed,

I don't know, that ownership spent to the cap, but when the cap's 40 million, that's different. 40s. It's going back a long time. Yeah, 48, I think, was the first year. Yeah.

But no, they've spent right into the 80s regularly. This is a lot. Yeah, but are they going to spend to the 130? Well, that it would be, five years out and you'd have the new buildings. So that's the hope. That's what a new building's to do. Oilers are.

You're paying for it. Oh, totally. Yeah. No, I'm not the one saying, let's charge double for beers to watch the same team. That's what the team's going to ask everyone else to do. Bit of a debby donor. Yeah, it's a donor. Sorry. Business talk. Yeah. Caps. Wow. I don't know what the hell else. Mike Gould is going to be part of the draft,

our draft coverage on Friday night. They're going to show tomorrow night with Stephen Ellis of Daily Faceoff, who's our prospect nerd. He's really good on the stuff. Is that the way he wants to be your... Probably, yeah. Okay. We hung out in Vegas.

That's on his LinkedIn. Yeah. Prospect nerd. Yeah. I consider myself a sports nerd. I also had that conversation yesterday with someone in the general public. So a lot of the podcast is just sports nerds. Yeah.

Very much. Yeah. But then they're going to do a live stream of round one as well on Friday night, I'm told. Jack. I was invited. Yeah, he's like, oh, I'm just going to ask movement. I'm like, good luck with that. Yeah, that wasn't going to happen. Well, I didn't say no.

Right. You just didn't reply. No, I did reply. And this is the honest truth. My softball life. Yeah. Wainwright gets in a way a lot of things. So there may or may not be softball. There may or may not be softball. So depending on that. I was, I came on last year. I drank some origin beers. We crushed it.

You were in, uh, I was back in a. Tobah, that's right. Tobitoba, you were enjoying Winnipeg. It's not Winnipeg. It could have been in Vegas, but I was not. I was in that.

You missed that mechanics flight on the airline we flew down on. That's right. Two for two on travel failures at the draft. You're a loser drunk. But Mike Gould, who will be part of the, do we have a name? Do we have a?

It's a backburner. Is it frenzy? It's the back burner. The draft is called just back burner. No, I mean, the Friday live stream, it'll be back burner round one live stream is probably what you'd call it. That's terrible. You're a terrible marketer. The show is called the backburner. Okay, but this would be the round one live stream. So we have a show called the back burner.

Yeah. Back burner. When did this start? About two months ago, I'd say. Yeah, like two months ago. So, Barnburn. After burner. After burner. After burner. Back burner. Backburn. See what we're doing. What's the next one? What if I don't want to be associated with those guys? So far, you're not. You're loosely affiliated. But he, he's a great follow on X slash Twitter. It's very opinionated, this Mike Gould.

Hates the blues jerseys. You wouldn't think, it seems like a very kind of a sweet young man, but he's, there's a fire that burns. He was, he tweeted this morning about what he sees happening. I put it in the file there,

I think, Jackie Boy, about the flame. he's all over the flames, but this is kind of his forecast, late night bold prediction that will almost certainly be wrong. The flames will do nothing more this week. They won't move Anderson,

they won't sign anyone else, and they won't do anything at the draft beyond picking in their existing spots. God, he is sounding more like this show. He says he's trying to manifest things. Right. But that's, how do you manifest things?

I'll just kind of speak it out loud. And this is, although he's kind of doing a refers, manifest. Yeah, this is reverse psychology. This was like when you guys said the series was over after the Oilers tied to it too. And how brilliant was that by the work. You're welcome. So that's called reverse psychology. Yeah.

Maybe he's doing that. Shigebenia. I want. Is that how you say it? Do you agree with with Mike Gould's assessment here? That's probably the most likely outcome. It does feel like every year teams want to move up and they're saying it and that's great. It's just really hard to do because someone has to move lower in round one.

Yeah. Well, what about the Anderson thing? I agree with you on the drafting. of things. Yeah. I think Anderson, a movable piece. And you're saying, like,

because you can move Anderson and not going to pick this year or move up and still have one hell of, so I think the thought on Anderson is, if Echblad somehow resigns in Florida, the bidding gets more fierce for Anderson, because there's just not a lot of right shot D out there. And so if you're trying to maximize your return,

you might do really well on Jan 2 or 3 on teams that lose out on the very few right shot D in July or, You said Jan. I mean July, sorry. Yeah. J's are killing. I was going to say, I don't want to wait until January. Doing all these Jays on the show.

Not good. Yeah, I mean, he's probably, if an Anderson deal doesn't get done by then it's round one, I don't view that as a failure. No, it doesn't need to be this year's draft class. I'm not fussing. And the next two draft classes are considered stronger.

Certainly at the top, you've got higher star power. Just don't get to camp. No, please. Don't get the training camp. Oh, God, please know. Make it in July. That said, I get it done before July 1. Before?

I don't want to hear teams, oh, boy, our cap money. Yeah, well, you went and spent it on a bunch of dumb third liners. Pender's got a good point. And it does make sense. If your top priorities right shot D, there's not enough out there to satisfy all those teams that want that. So you might get a really good offer July 2 once the, those four or five defensemen in the class are gone. Is Florida phoning Conroy right now? know if they know

Eckblad's out of their price range? It sounds like not unlike Ryanhart last year, this will go right to the wire with all three guys, but it does sound like Eckblad's going to turn down a lot of money if he's going to stay, because they're not going to go to the same place that say L.A. would, or

who else needs right team. Dallas would be afforded for a NBA. Jesus. In what way? How is it the NBA? Bosch and Dwayne Wade. Super teams. Lebron and everybody.

But he's playing it again. Yeah, it's weird. I think Chris Johnston had on his Twitter, the Sam Bennett thing, it's as good as done. This is a done deal. He can stay there? Yeah. Yeah. And the Marchand one, it's on this, this is happening.

Just as they love it. Well, Biz said this morning that he's going to Toronto at four times nine. So I mean, but he's the big lease honk. So I don't know. I don't put any stock. How do you like the times nine? That's a big, big number for Bradley. The Eckblad one is.

is interesting. He's playing great hockey, but he's also long of the two. I do not think he wants to leave, and I think he's made lots of money, and I think he can continue to make enough money to be happy, and he loves to fish. He's from that same draft, right? As Bennett and Reinhardt and Dreisai,

like he's that age. He's not long. You'll be 29 in the first of a max term deal. Well, if Bennett's not old, then it's not. It's not old. No, and I'm not saying he's ancient. He's going to be bad. The thing with him.

way that he plays, you worry about breakdown a little sooner. I think he's good. I think he's very good. Yeah, I don't know that. I think Rastafs Hansen's really good. I also worry about him in four years. You know what I mean? It's weird.

You say these things and then there's four years. Maybe four doesn't care. Maybe they're like, that's our window. In four years, everyone's old anyway. I think with Eckblad, one of the reasons that Forzling is as good as he is, is because Eckblad is there. It's a combination, Dean. It's a pairing.

I think you take Eckblad out, then Forzling's having to do things that's, I think it goes both ways, yeah. Right. I think the fit. Same thing with the Uighur was there. Like, Echblad's numbers of that Weiger weren't as good and they were both a really good pair together. They helped each other. It will be from the sounds of it anyway.

And who knows what the offers will be July 1. But to your point, he's going to take a hometown discount if he's staying there. Yeah. So Gavakov's up in L.A. They added him a couple deadlines to go from Columbus with Corpusalo, I believe. and he immediately re-uped on a shorter-term deal with the Kings. And the thought was, oh, he's been good there. He's going to re-up there.

But now the thought is maybe he wants to play in New York, where he's one flight away from home instead of fly across the continent and then have a flight home. You go up and over. Can't you go under? The L.A. to Moscow routes. I don't know well. You could be right. What's Elon been doing?

I thought we were going through the middle. Yeah. Lava. But not boring. But not boring. What's Eckblad on a hometown discount? Where is that now? seven and a half.

Yeah, probably eight-ish. It sounds like they're ever even eight with them. I'm sorry. If I'm Aaron Ekblad and I've been in Florida for this long and just been to the finals three times, love it. Life is good.

And you're going to pay me eight and eight? I ain't going. But there's some thought that it might not get there. Yeah. Okay, so what? Seven. Five and a half, seven. Well, okay, seven.

Because what is he really worth? I think he'll get a, over 10 on the open market. And that's a seven year deal, 70 million. So you're close at eight with the taxes. That might be the high bar. Like it might, that might be. It's going to be stupid money July 1.

And it's not going to be as big a percentage of cap. Correct? Like if that cap is old deal. Yeah. Yeah. That's what they're asking to do. Take less because A, you like it here. B, the taxes are in a pretty damn good here.

And C, we can give you an extra year. So when you add all that stuff up, eight times eight might end up being more than seven times ten. It's a real thing. We'll prove that math. Okay. Eight times eight,

six four. Seven times ten, 70. That's six million you probably make back in taxes. Already lost. I tried to do this the other day. People text me like, they were not picking up that math.

I'm like, I know. I tried. It's my battle in life. This is my plight. Yeah. Good for them. know what i wish the panthers will and do they have the cap to bring them all back i know we can all

do this they'll do that the bring bring bring like do you literally have enough money for all three of those guys without really really low balling the shit out of them do they give well no i just mean there's a limit they can spend to right like if you say let's figure it out we're best look we love math per hell on nerds they got 19 million bucks let's say you give eight to bennett eight to ecblad that's 16 you're not keeping mark sham for three now you got to have to move some stuff out but it's just at what point is it they're not going to be able to keep all three i'm kind of the cap for next year that's yes they got 19 million for next year and they and they they've only got 16 guys signed so you got to

fill another seven roster spots so if you go league men league men and then try to squeeze three guys they don't have to carry 23 sure you're right they could go 21 22 yeah but suddenly if bennett's taken seven and a quarter to seven and a half and effect blad's taken six seven or 725 and oh yeah yeah over seven years I don't know it's a really interesting spot with those players

because they clearly are like this is where I want to be this is the best spot I can be then that's all that matters and they'll make it work and at what number you're like that's too much like is it 20 million bucks I'm missing out on that probably is 20 is too much right that be that fatherly advice we would give

those boys son But I know you're hammered to the gills right now. Like I know you're smashed and you've been drunk for nine days. But just know that see how happy you are and know that this happiness. It's not everywhere. Call Brandon. Montere?

Yes. Yeah. Because he might have just hit a number. Like the gap's too big. I have to go. But yeah, I liked it more there. I don't know.

Like that's each guy's going to be different. It's a lot like us when we decided to do this. Just great options all around. Yeah. There's no downside one way or the other. Prepared to take considerably less. All we do is win, win, win. So we could be, so finally, we can be happy.

Play that pink pony club with us how we're lit. I don't know. That's our son. I'm not sure. We can't even play. Maybe our choices weren't so good. It doesn't seem like it was a great move. Well, it's, yes, a full guy who's to say, really.

Got to build. Got to build it out. Got to build. Got to build. So, yeah, Flames, a couple picks. That's great. What's the, in terms of deals getting done? I don't know that I saw Kirkland being the next one,

but now that Kirkland, oh, Costco. Now that he's back in the fold. What's the next one? I don't know that there is anything big. I mean, Zeri, there's no time rush on it. I know Bobby Germany was talking about like, why isn't this getting done? It's like, well, because there's no time frame. He doesn't have Arbrates and you've got all summer to sign him.

That's why. And if you're the agent, you ask for lots and the closer to get the season, you lower. You're the team. You start lower. You move closer to see, like there's no time pinch on Zeri. I'd love to see Wolf get done. But again, no time. It's the same argument there.

Exactly. So. And I think the team is more ready to commit to Wolf than they would be, Zari. So Conroy is going to have to. name eight names on Friday night and then he's got the summer off what a cakewalk junk it's going to one of those things where he says the opposite of what he said a month ago when he said this yeah it's not fun it's not he's jump well he looks stressed out eh you guys he had him in here and he looks really stressed yeah i think the thought with wolf is that he's got an agent that has a ton of clients and when

the agent's ready that'll start they can't really push the schedule here they know the flames love them they know the flames are willing to commit huge term to them uh The Zerry one's interesting because we really like the player, but I don't really know what he is yet. Like is he a middle six winger? Is he a center? He's been all over the map. Well, we all have because we've seen a lot of different stuff.

The first third of the year, he looked unbelievable. And then he has two knee injuries and you're like, maybe a guy that's been hurt for the last five years or three or four, whatever it is, isn't the best for a long term deal. Or maybe that gets you a discount on a long term deal. I don't know. It's a harder negotiation for me than Wolf. Wolf, I'm just like, what do top goalies make?

How many UFA years are you buying? We can do the math. we can make this work. Zari, it's harder because I don't know what his ceiling is. Wolf, it's like, yeah, he's going to be top five goal in the league. If that's the ceiling, we can look at numbers. What is that number? I look at Swamen and Olmark's deals at eight and a quarter,

and I look at how many UFA years they were, and it's like you can adjust for cap. And I think that's the neighborhood. Eight and a half? Potentially, maybe a little less. But that's, I don't think it's this huge ban, whereas like Zeri on a two-year deal might be in the threes or if you want to lock him up for eight you might have to play six plus like it's a way wider range of outcomes because I don't wider weiner Dean it is a wider we're less apprehensive about a longer term deal for Zeri and I can we've had this discussion I guess we will until the end of time I'm less concerned about what his position is I understand a center is more valuable and if I'm the agent I'm saying well hey he's a center so you got to pay more He played in the wing a lot.

He's where you played him. By all means, take Morgan Frost's job, though, is the other thing, right? You are down on Zary. No, I just want to see more. Like, he's been hurt a lot. It's his fault? I don't know. Is it?

Like, you tell me, when you watch the two knee injuries? Like, is one just, why is your head down? What are you doing? Or is it just bad luck? I don't know. It's bad luck. You got a guy that's attacking the plane wanting to make something happen. Like that.

And what, like, if he was, if he put up 60 points in a season, you're like, yeah, okay, like, get out of the checkbook. Like, is he a half point per game guy? Is that what he's going to be? Does he get to, can he flirt with 80 on a good year? Is the ceiling much lower? I don't know. I like the player a lot. He's one of the few guys that can beat defenders one on them.

Talking down on him. Conroy's listening. He's going to take your advice on them. Bridge? It's going to happen. Or? Less. buy an extra year if you have him before probably but you don't want to walk him right to you so that's

no you don't keep that deal coming up when he's an r i don't know some of those cheap you guys going into uf a pretty valuable to trade he's 23 huh just sign him you guys are just go long term just get him signed it's and honestly the case would be you're buying his whole brown if you go seven eight years you're locking up all of his 20s that's the best hockey's ever going to play you've just bought. So I'm not against that. They'd really have to care and put on our GM hats and dig into the weeds of this. But like, I'm thinking about Winnipeg because I got Winnipeg on my mind. I love Winnipeg.

Can't wait to get to Winnipeg. Do some. Gross. Give him a long-term deal. I guess the point I'm getting at is if he's not going to be a player for you, are you able to go sign someone for cheaper? You know what I mean? Like, you can't. When you're talking about Zeri?

I'm just talking about free agents and. general, if he's not turning out for you, what are you turning to to fill his spot? Well, they got lots of wingers in the system. That would be the alternative. It's the Griddons and Sunneyev. Okay, but if Gridden and Sunneev and all them, Zeri doesn't have to be bad for those guys to be so good, they push him out. Zeri doesn't have to be bad. Yeah. If those guys are really good, they don't what I mean? Like, it's not, you can sign him. Like that, we always think if we sign a guy, we're stuck with him forever. trade his ass or trade griddens ass or trade the most valuable asset and get the most back in return

who cares and with the case he's an asset let's keep him and the case would be if the cap's 135 million he's in the middle of that deal like six million is going to be a song it's going to feel like three point nine points i don't see how he's not i mean if he's healthy i don't see how he's not a 50 point guy at least what's right and so the question is what is a middle six winger what's that worth and that's what i wouldn't i don't know i don't know hard to figure out if you had one of those spreadsheets. Like if he's a, if he's a UFA and he's 27, I got a good idea of what he's going to get paid, but I don't even think he has Arbites.

Like last year, he had 14 goals and 34 points in 63 games. Just over a half point. This last year, 54 games, 13 goals, 27 points. So it's just over a half point. So if you put those two injury riddled seasons together, there wasn't, you're a half point game player, right? And you expect improvement from that because he is just 23. That's just it.

Like we see Coronado and we sign him when we do cartwheel saying, what a great signing. Yes, he got hurt, but is that the one knocked where you're concerned is that he's been injured? So we don't want to like, what's Coronado's numbers compared? He's scoring more. He's younger, if I'm correct, by year. And he's, I think there's a higher ceiling there. He also does the thing that's harder to do, which is the whole goal scoring thing, right?

There's the Zeri. I still don't see that this team is in an overabundance of talent. Well, that's the thing, too, is it's 14 goals and 13 goals on one of the most offensively challenged clubs in the league. And again, if you go bridge, it doesn't mean you don't give him a huge deal after. Like, you're not losing a guy because you bridge him. I think he comes up as an RFA. You have another negotiation.

I mean, if he's great, you pay him more. So 117 games for Zeri, 20, goals, 112 games for Coronado, 27 goals. So in five fewer career games, Coronado is younger. Had the much better year. It's younger, whatever. It's a year.

Hey, look, you hope you're both really good players. You just got to give them a contract. Yeah. And so the question is, do you get yourself a short-term deal on lower money, or do you give them bigger money and hope you're getting the value in years 4, 5, 6, 7, 8? What's his down? If it's upside, his 80 points. What's his downside?

This, that he's injury-plagued half-point per game player. But I think he's better than that. That would be your floor. So you're okay. Yeah. If he's injured, he's injured, can't control that. And I don't know, I just look at the nature of those injuries. One was a, he fell awkwardly backwards, broke his leg or whatever.

And the other one was a hit coming across the middle or whatever. and he got maybe should have been more aware, I guess, on that hit. And that might be too critical. Throw his numbers up again. Because if it was one year, you're like, it's just a bad year. But he's a real tough time staying healthy. I think is. Wow.

Because you go back to. Yeah. So is it just last year? I mean, like the three of the four years prior. And there's COVID in there, which screws shit up to. But he only plays 16 games, 2021. That's a COVID screwed up year. Draft year.

I just think injuries. The money's off your books. anyway. So what the health differences are? Yeah. Right? Like if we're, or are you worried that the injuries are going to slow down his progression as far as being a good player? You lose developmental time. We're seeing that with Hansick. People were kind of

where we were on Hansik with Zari before he had the huge breakout two years ago. Yeah, if Hansik wants to um, but I guess what the, maybe if you're Connie and you're saying, look, I mean, you know, you've averaged about 20 games missed injury a year, whatever

it's, it is. Here's I want to pay you. Maybe he wants a discount for all that. And that's what makes a long-term deal tough for the agent. Or maybe the agent just thinks this guy's a superstar. You guys are insulting us. Or maybe we're idiots. We're definitely idiots. We know that.

It's really easy to get a deal done. But there's no time pinch here is sort of where we started on it. This is from Saskatoon. So he's got that going for him. I actually think, Saskatoon's a bit on the nose. But it does matter. I think.

A guy from Western Canada that, I think it matters. Is it to do all and all? No. But if he's from Carolina or Minnesota, yeah, maybe, yeah.

I think it does. There's something about him, I don't know, just watching him last year and just he feels like he's part of the fabric of this, of the next wave of player that's coming through for this team. Yeah, he's got enthusiasm. Yeah, like he's, he's skilled, he's got some jam, He's got some bite to his game. He's a bit of a bit of a Richard.

Does he ever score 30? Sure. Whereas if he's doing. Whereas Coronado, you almost expect it next year, right? Yeah, Coronado 24 goals last year. 30. And I'm not saying, but Coronado's, they have the same amount of goals and almost the same amount of game.

Yeah. So we are now. You can watch the games and you see the talent with Coronado. Coronado is a shooter. I mean, he's. but he doesn't do what Zeri does. I don't think he's as shifty with the puck. I don't know.

Yeah, I like Zari's creativity. It's on Coronado can beat goalies clean. That's the hardest thing to do in the game. That's why goal scorers get paid the most. But look, if you really think the window for this team is in a new building and down the road, you really should try to go long term if that's what you believe. If you're trying to save a bunch of cows race the next two, three years so that you can make the play out. Well, that's the, yeah.

That's, I mean, I know you're getting different scenarios. Yeah, I'm asking. I would prefer to go long term. I think the flames will branch it. What I see happening and why is what the case I've been laying out. I think if you can get him at a reasonable number long, long term, it's only going to become a deal when cap space is tough. Six and three quarters, six and a quarter?

Six and a half. Six and a half. There you go. Which if he ends up scoring 30, you're like, that's a song. and you locked him up for its prime. So six. So that close to that number or a little bit less isn't for it's higher? Because again, Zary 112.

Sorry, I'm on the Coronado. It's the same number of goals. Zeri has played 117 in HL games. Yeah. And so what you see between the two is one guy is trending upward dramatically when you look year over year. And the other guy has been about a half point. per game both years.

Like it just looks like one guy's ascending and the other guy, I'm still don't even know who's center or not. Again, I still would like to go along, but if the agent wants a big number, I don't, I don't know. Put up points to be creative. And I think you're overstating the, it's really his first year, Coronado, and Zeri had two years, but he was hurt.

Yep. I still, yeah. I think Zary was going this way and got hurt. I agree. And that's, that's why it became challenging. If he has a healthier, I think it's easier deal to get done. No. Well, you have a better idea what he is.

Well, what if it might be worse? Played the whole year and he got you. 75 points. That's great. Now I know that he can get me 70 points. You're going to get paid, son. Let's go. How do we feel about the Roondog?

See ya. Oh. You got Kirkland and. You already have a bunch of old guys ahead of in this team that play too much. The Roond Dog is only 32 years old. But he's also just not really. good at the NHL level. That's the problem. Well, I'd rather have a couple 35 year olds at the top of the list for your

sentiment. You have to have youth. I agree. Kids, light. Yeah. Yep, for sure. And there'll be some kids in the spring that are probably ready to come up here. Joel Hanley? I think he's probably gone.

He was very good here, but I think someone will need him more than the first of the year. We made fun of the team for keeping him. Then he played well. He is a better Miramanov than Miramanov. First pairing. Right? Like whoever weager had to carry some guys all year. But Hanley was the best of the worst.

Yes, exactly. He's not a top pair D man. They just asked him to eat those minutes here for some reason. Now the year of Miro at 125. Always good. You can bury that. That's fine. No, the year of Jake Bean at 175.

Less easy to bury. But if he's a third, if he's a six, seven, I'm okay. Broosh. Sorry, Craig. Yeah. Just got to save all that money for Kevin Ball. He needs to deal. Get the ball deal done.

Baller. Here's the. It's a stupid conversation. It is kind of a stupid conversation. The only reason I don't go to me. It's like, oh, we're talking. What hell are they doing? That's what are they making the playoffs next year?

Or we, oh, we're doing the soft. What the, does that mean? It does feel like a soft rebuild, doesn't it? What does that mean? It means they're not going to move guys until they're kind of forced to. Like they are now with Rasmus because he's not going to resign. So if we want to talk about it in a positive sense, we say they're being patient.

I wouldn't be like I, what I fear is that this front office doesn't have the confidence to make a bold move that says here's the direction we're going. That's my fear. Because it would be really easy to say, we're putting a stake of the ground. This is a bleep an Rby, and we're going to be in the mix

from McKenna and DuPont. It's not that hard. You move a cadre, Coleman, Rasmus. Backland. Sure. Yeah, it's last year his deal. You could, I mean,

you could even take calls of McKenzie Weeger. I think you need to keep some good players, and his term has only got, what, four years left, but still, you could easily turn this into a hard RB. I kind of hope they do,

but I don't think they will. it's not like you say that's not hard to do doesn't guarantee you but it doesn't guarantee or anything but there's a lot of teams to do that we'll sell off our aging guys and get some stuff and sometimes that stuff is okay and other times it's just some stuff right but your own picks just gonna be way high we'll get that right that's what i'm talking i understand but even still if it there's a simplicity that is laid that is attached to rebuildings we'll just trade you guys and get some picks and prospects and then you're

good. Every team would do it. I just look at the teams that win the cups and they've all done it. The cores of those teams all were built and the best flames teams in the past 30 years, I'll say, was a team that was built through the draft. It's tough to find a cup winner that the core of that team isn't built through a rebuild. And so if you want to make the playoffs and that's your prerogative as an organization,

you're not that far away. You lost the tie break. But if you actually want to win a cup, I think you're a long way away. And you need to boldly say this is the path we're going because we want to win a cup. Because they say we want to win a cup, but so do the 31 other teams. Are you acting like you want to win a cup? Because if you bring back all these guys and add at the deadline because you're two points into a playoff spot, you're not actually closer to a cup. You're just in the dance.

But you've got to be in a dance if you want to win the cup. Right. But if you don't want a cup, you actually need to pick in the top three or four a bunch. I mean, where do you get your barcoves and eggblads? Yeah, you got to make good deals along the way where you can pick up Ryan Hart and Kachuk and you sign Bob. But all these teams, their spines are with top three picks in the draft. Yeah.

It's McKinnon. It's McCar. It's McDavid. It's Dysidal. It's Dowdy. It's Canaan Taves. All these guys are right at the top of the draft. And those are the spines of these teams that win cups.

Do you honestly believe even if next year we can get in that this is the type of team that has the ability? I always said it long. can you elevate your game? They look like they were maxed out. Yeah, like the playoffs is okay, now we're in and we're going to have to up our production by 25%. Like I think there's some guys they have that would be and have been very good playoff performers.

Like I think Cadry and Coleman and Pospicil and Klapka, their style of play would be really good in the playoffs because you can get away with a little more and they've got some dirt under their nails. Weger's got some of that moxie too. But I just- Pospicel is going to. have to get his act together, sorry.

Well, he needs, yeah, he's afraid of the player safety department. That's the problem. The playoffs doesn't have to worry about that as much. But point being, I just don't know that you say, oh, yeah, if they played the Jets, they would have rolled. No, like this year's team, they couldn't score. And there was no reason to think that they were going to be able to, even if goals go down in the playoffs, which really they didn't. They did. The final, it was like seven goals, eight goals a game.

you can you can squint and probably be sold you know Sharon Govich will have a better year I liked his finish to the year right the injury screwed him up and even still he had how many goals 17 17 goals on an awful awful kind of year could you get more out of ferribi he's shown it in the past like a little bit more yep his shooting percentage was rock bottom you can't be that bad again can frost give a little bit more I hope so can zary stay healthy he will give you more does coronado continue to score he'd assume so And that's kind of how they get in this conundrum, right? Yeah, but it all adds up to F all because guess what?

The other, the 10th place team and the 11th place team and the 12th place team are all going to say if. Yeah. This, this, this, this happened. Guess what? We're right there. Oh, I know. I know. I just like as, as it sits right now, if you believe in Wolf and you saw the way the defense plays and who knows.

I only believe. Obviously. My only, not to jump on you there, but the only person I do believe in is Wolf. That's your best of bullshit. And it's not a negative against the other guys. I just don't know. You know, you say Coleman and Cadre. And I think, okay, yeah, could they up?

I mean, you go watch Marchand go to the playoffs in Florida and performs unbelievably. I don't think he was very good this year. Four nations. I didn't think he could keep up. Yeah. I was like, okay, it's coming in two and then. So could Cadre and Coleman elevate? Maybe.

But they're both coming off like career high type seasons. I think Caudry's been great. Coleman, I feel like at 33, he's going to be a good soldier for you, but don't rely on him for offense. That's not his contribution. The one guy, just to kind of like your point, and I totally agree with you, the one guy that they have that I think we don't view in that lens because McKinnon was at number one and McCar's top five and all that.

But the one guy they have that can have that type of a game changing impact is, Wolf and we see him as a seventh round. He's a high end top of the first round type talent now, impact maker. So the flame, they do have one of those impact guys and he's in net. And you're hoping that Peret can be another, but it's a rookie year this year. Who even knows if he can play in this league. I think he will and he can, but you're going to have some growing pains. He's not a stalwart defensive guru.

So even though we're geniuses, we don't know what we would do with this team. No, I know exactly. you're like, we sell old parts. But like, here's the thing. Nazim, you could trade right now. Are you sure in a year or in two years or in three years you can? Because it would be really silly in 10 years to look back. Like we had this asset.

We could have turned into some nice young pieces. But we just let him age out. And then as he got worse, the young guys were better. And we didn't have anything to show for it. What if there's a tipping point on the return, though? Because you say you can trade him. Yeah. But what if it's a second and a fourth?

Yeah, you probably, you'd have to really be committed to the rebuild. Because it's $7 million. It's four more years. It's still not the easiest contract to move. You can eat it. But okay, then what are we? So are you better off keeping them and playing them? Or do you get them off your roster for a less than for a return that may not help you at all?

I just look at the lease for example. Brought of end for nothing. If you, if John Tvers is not signed with the Leafs, try to tell me who their second center is. No, I agree. So I think you could get a lot for awesome in the right circumstances here. And I don't know. I think the player is desirable. I think you'd be a great fit.

I just, we assume you're going to get this return. So Brock Nelson is like a year younger and he just got a first, a top prospect and a player. Now, it was an expiring contract. He's got three years on his new deal, not four. But I think you're closer to that return than you are to a second and a fourth. You just scored 30 goals and he's the number two. Can I just add this to the list of things?

More importantly, what are you doing with your cap space? And if Nazim Kodry is a desirable asset in Toronto, it's like we said about Anderson line. And you eat some of that. I just think if it's that easy, if you're getting a first and a prospect, should be done already. Got to do it, don't you?

It's done. You have to do it. Which is why I don't know if it's that easy. But the only reason, and you wouldn't do it is if you're trying to make the playoffs next year. Because there's no way that return gets you closer to the playoffs. It takes you further away. And it gets back to where we started.

What are you doing? Are you rebuilding? Are you pushing chips in? Or are you trying to do both? Because doing both, almost impossible. Yeah. See, I'd like to think it's somewhere in the middle that it's not as easy for either side. I don't think they necessarily think they're a point away from getting in the playoffs

and then being a cup champion. and I think they know what they are. They're offensively challenged, but they're a team that's scrappy and they fight and they win some games. They shouldn't, yeah, they lose it. But they got great goal tending. And you can build from the net out.

But I also think that if they were getting these types of offers for cadre and hey, we'd love Blake Coleman. We'll give you, if you had all of these offers that were sitting there, they're not stupid. Like we can turn, if we get a first here and a first there,

we can use the picks, we can move the picks. We can turn this around in a year and a half. So you think if you, if you went to the owner and said, we're going to miss the playoffs next year, but look what we get for Cadry, that'd be greenlit?

You already missed the playoffs. Well, but you're trying to get better. They're going to take seven times four of Cadry, and I think you can frame that conversation with the owner, yeah. Yeah, and to Rett's point, you make it four years of three and a half and ask for more in trade. Well, the other thing that we never mentioned is that two years ago,

you couldn't move Codry for... Caps gone up, and he's been good. He's aged nicely. don't get me wrong. I'm just, I know, frame it that you're having a discussion. I would be moving them.

The best predictor of future activities is what people have done in the past. The way Conroy's rolled is when, no, it's not. Any of us, frankly. But the way Connie's dealt with issues

is when there's a pressure point, he deals with them. And when I look at Bill Zito, there was no pressure point on Hubert O, aside from, I guess, being a year away from UFA, but he was just like, can't win with this guy,

got to do it now. that's a bold decision. I'm waiting for a point. The pressure point was more of the Kachuk doing. It wasn't a Florida. Yeah, this guy's on the market.

Holy shit. Right. But I guess what I'm saying is if you're going to make a call on a Nasm or a Coleman, that's, ooh, geez,

like that might threaten playoff revenue. I don't know. Like this is a, we'll just wait it out and we'll see. And at the deadline, I'll know. But they did that last year and they added zero prospects to the system over the course of the year.

Yeah, because they were, you could have, they were in the hunt. Well, Frank, like Frank said yesterday. scenario is to get it don't trade Anderson then you get hey look at us we're pretty good how are we

going to trade this guy and that's the mistake you can't make that mistake like you said make a a blood oath with yourself but there's you can't there's too many forces including ownership from the outside that can convince you or try to convince you that you can't trade this guy because we are we got something special here I think the other side too that you always You know, this is, we talk about this. This is the leverage story. I guess it's summer. And this is what we do.

Some teams that rebuild do a good job. Yeah, the problem is everyone says, Buffalo, right? And those guys aren't good at it. No, they're terrible. Like, Ottawa's a nice, exciting team to watch right now. They were terrible for a very long time and a joke. Yes.

They weren't good at it. They had a bad GM. The owner was too hansy. Yeah. Like, so, okay. Hey, we're close. We're going to go get to bring. it didn't work. Hey, we're close. We're going to get chikrin. Didn't work. Like, they, they, they cut corners.

And that's kind of what your living did here. He thought he was a hammock away and gave away Dobson in two seconds. Right. Like it's my biggest beef with the, with trees stuff was the, was the, was the GEO and the Monaghan. The trading of Monaghan with a pick, with a first to open up to get them off the books to sign Cadry. And you can just out the R guy. I mean, that's And the Gio was not making a Gerdano trade. Yeah. And losing him to Seattle for nothing. Nothing.

What the, those are the two ones that stand. Because it's hindsight gives you the, if they had more success with Hamming, I'm not saying it was the right, but it was an attempt and you've got a player that could play and contribute, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. The Gerdano thing, you knew what was happening.

You weren't making the playoffs. Yeah. You were losing him if you made them available. Yeah, it's like he's not. He's not. It was, it was. And the, and the Monahan thing, how is that anything other than a panic? Oh, I have to do something.

Yeah. It felt like an emotional mood, didn't it? When you, when a guy walks and says, I'm done, it's like, no, no, no, we're going to punch back. That was the terminology he used. Like, that's emotional. That's not logical. This is a job for logic, not emotion. Oh, somebody insulted our city.

We got to prove the guys will sign here. Here's too much money, Jonathan Huberto. and it's all bonus loaded so you can't buy it out. That's emotional. The Hamannock trade, he comes in, and it's kind of Rasmus-esque, because one of the things about Hamanick was good right-shot defenseman, but it was his cap hit.

That's why he was regarded, and you're going to have to pay more. From the Islanders with a fourth, for a first, second, and conditional second. They use the first on Noah Dobbson. It was very good. Ruslan Ishikov, Ishikov and Samuel Bull Duke

were taken with the picks. The flames used that fourth on Lucas Fouke. And Foucaf. Why did that deal get done? They had Johnny at 24. It was Kachuk's first year. Monaghan was 22.

And on the back end, they had Gio, Brody, and Dougie Hamilton. And they felt like this would give them a formidable top four defenseman. And instead he looked like a third pair guy almost from the get-go. With up-and-coming young forward crew. Cajillo scored 24.

Monahan 31. Cichuck as a rookie had 24. Now, is that a soft rebuild? What they did? Do you know what I mean? Like if this is what we're calling, is that what their reference point is? Well, we got Johnny late. Okay.

Awesome. Great job. You picked high for Cacheck. You picked high for Monaghan. We're both high picks. And then we ended up with Bennett. And that's, but you had to miss significantly to get those, right?

Like, yeah, is that the idea? Is we're not going to crater so bad that it's a first, but we might be picking eighth to, to 14th? I think they traded Bullmeister and a gillan in 12, and they were back in the playoffs in the spring of 15.

That's probably as good as you can do. Now, you hit in the fourth round on a superstar. That's, you can't have, that doesn't have more than once a decade or two. but yeah like we always worry about being geez if you rebuild you're going to look at buffalo well look that's never happened to history of the game and and can you find me a more incompetent blend of owner coach GM

over the last 15 years than what you show today it was the clip it's oh it was Barney difficult team to deal with difficult team to deal with yeah so like Buffalo is an absolute worst case scenario and everyone always talks about it but why does no one talk about the quicker turnarounds and the ones that work? Because that's your other option. You know, the truth's going to be in the middle, but don't be afraid of the boogeyman. There's also good outcomes here too.

Yeah, and every, you can compare rebuilds, but chances are it's going to be hard to find a direct compare. Sure, of course. Right in what this team doesn't have right now. Okay, so they've drafted Coronado and he had a nice little breakout, you know, but they're 10 million dollar players, Jonathan Hubbard. It's not Nate McKinnon. It's not a superstar. Yeah.

It was supposed to be and it wasn't. That's what threw them into rebuild. So. Jonathan Hebrot was the same guy that was in Florida. There's no rebuild. You are a good playoff team. Like it's just that. Like he's turned himself in from a third line where

into a second line where you thought you were getting a 100 plus point guy. Last year, 28 goals, 62 points in 81 games. Yeah, it's a little more than half of what he had the year before he got here. Yeah. And it feels like that's probably. Oh, if you could do it again. Continue, please. It's probably the best case.

Now, no one talks about the Uyghur part of that deal. He is very valuable, that cap it, and a very good player, your best defenseman. 30. Yeah. And how many years left? Do you want to talk about Wager? No. Good trouble.

He's a nice car. Love Wager. His contract ends in 31. Just around the car. 4-5, 6 more. That's 625. Yeah. And so, you know, people say, why not trade Uighur keep Rasmus? Well, Rastas can be locked into the mid-30s in terms of the year at a way higher number because that's where the market is.

And I already think we're better. It's where your team is going. If you think you're a playoff team, you keep Rasmus Anderson. That's the fear. If they walk into the season with them, that scares me. Or even if you'd been making the playoffs the last couple years and maybe you won around, maybe you didn't. if he's 28, I think, and you're in and you're kind of a team. Yeah.

Then you're, yes. Yeah. You're a key part of what we're doing. We're a playoff team. We're hoping to get to round three. We're building. We got some young guys coming in. Then, yeah, you don't have any of this conversation.

But you miss the playoffs again. And he knows it and you know it. So that's the other part too is he knows it. He's, yeah. Do not try and convince a guy to be here that doesn't want to be here. But if you can somehow find a really good young center in the next two, three summers, you might actually be good when you get to the new building. Well,

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And number two, number two, in the top 20 draft picks in Flames history, none other than Swedish legend. Huck and Loub. Rhett, now is your opportunity to slander pike. Louber, the only Swede ever to score 50 in a season. which is incredible. There's been a lot of good sweets ever. No Sundin, no Foresburg,

no Zabinich. Only sweet ever to score 50 in a season. Many have reached 49. Only Hawk and Lubb has reached 50. And you are just sitting, stupid. What a pick. Oh, we'll keep moving.

All the guys that you love the guys? He was the best. Luber. Almost went home. They had him run around the horse track at Stampede Park is training camp thing. He's like, this is awful. I'm in hiking boots.

get dirt up to my ankles. What the hell are we doing here? I'm going back to Sweden. They kept them and he did all right. God bless him. How old did he score? 50. 55!

Oh, just 50? Stopped right there. Right at it. Yeah. A lot of guys on those old flame teams got to 50. Didn't Macroff get there one year, New and a couple years in a row. And they packed it in?

Then they left because the ownership was too cheap to pay them a million dollars to play hockey. some of them at least. So why do we expect you? Roger McQueen's a curious draft candidates. It's on Flames Nation.ca. He's 6.5 right shot center and would be gone in the top five, if not for only playing 20 games this year to a bad back.

He is the wild card of the first round. He won't slide to 18. Bad back. Is back's back? Does he love Roger McQueen? No, I think he would, yeah. Oh, you're saying he said, you love Roger. McQueen is a pin pinnter loves him or it's an enticing toolbox he won't be there at 18

but yeah if you're going to pick the top 10 there's lots of like a lot of these guys to be fair there's just the injury risk that's why he's going to slide a bit right do you like those uh jersey steam what do you not particularly how but again six foot sigh uh six foot five right shot center that's that's the missing most missing piece in their system you're not going to drag me into conversation about Roger. Yeah. Anyway, you can read more. Pike will drag you in.

Rhett, you've got to respect that size. You know what? They can't teach that. No. They've been trying. Can't do it. Nope. No one's,

figure out how to teach you. You know what you are? You're born with that. No, no. They do the surgery now. Then they'll put a plate right to raise you. Extend those shins. Jackie went over to China for that

shin extension surgery. No, I didn't, Ryan. Oh, okay. Why? I thought, it's the Pinder report. We get tied into all lot of things. Penguins.

Maybe too big. Maybe too big. He might be too big. Too big for his back. This might be, remember when the Manute Bull tried to play hockey for the Indianapolis IHL team? Maybe just too big. Rangers today sent the penguins. Their 12th overall selection.

It was J.T. Miller, Vancouver to New York. The first went to Vancouver. Vancouver went and got somebody Patterson from the penguins. So the Rangers said, okay, we'll keep next years. You get 12. Pittsburgh now picks back to back at 11 with their own pick and the Rangers pick at 12. Broxy.

Bruxie. That's what I'm telling you, Bruxie. Jack. Back to back picks. They're going to draft that Lightning McQueen guy. Lightning McQueen. He's got balls. It's Hall of Fame Day.

We've already showed you the order. We don't need to show the order again. There is anyway. Back to back. I told you. Abbs also go back to back, as you see. Three first rounders for Nashville. Well, three first round is for Philly.

Two for the sharks, two for the hawks, two for the penguins, two for the habs, two for the flames. It would be awful boring. Brett, can you name five players in this year's draft class? Schaefer, Mesa, two. McQueen. Yeah. What's that show? You only got a certain amount of time.

Then you get panicky. Who wants to be a millionaire? Get a little panicky. That's three. C-T. You're out of time. Hall of Fame Day is today. The committee led by Lanny McDonald.

I thought he quit. We'll be voting. I think he was the chair. And now someone else is the chair. They'll be voting on the class of 2025. Some of the names we expect to be first ballot guys. Zedano Chara, Joe Thornton, Brian Getslap. Also in the mix, you've got a Kerry Price, a Duncan Keith,

they took a rask, Jason Spetza. Rod the bod is one of the holdovers. Now, of course, there's the old guys that probably should be in, but aren't. Theo, Gonshire, Kujo, McGilney, Patrick Marlowe, you could build the case. Bernie Nichols scored what, like 60 goals a couple times. Am I? To Spets and his abilities.

Pull up the numbers. Well, he played for the Leafs. Oh, so there's that. That's a major. For the sentence, yeah. Anyway, lots of names. We'll find out at 1 p.m. Mountain today. And a live announcement that will air on the NHL Network.

I'm starving. TSN4. Are you hungry? Starving. Here's a juicy little trade rumor for you. Everyone knows Vegas has been sniffing around Marner. Well, how are they going to make the money? Well, that's how they're going to make the money work.

Thomas Hurdle to Carolina. Cam Robinson of police prospects suggesting little smoke out there. A friend of the show. Friend of the show. probably get them on after the draft. Talk about it. We'll see. Once it's over, who cares?

Well, that's what you don't know who these kids are because we've heard of maybe one of the kids they pick. Like, who are these other guys? Just named you three. Yeah, the flames aren't going to pick any of those three guys. You didn't ask that. Right. St. Louis Blues did a little refresh.

Now, if I had flashed us on the screen, would you have said that's different or the same logo? Different. The bottom looks like feathers. tickle feathers tickle feathers because my gold has said that this has gone from one of the best uniforms in the league to the worst and i don't know that i could tell you the difference something's different when a tickle feathers don't mind it the baby blues are good and then they've got these little logos look at the trumpet on the right blues uh water the arch a p why is an f are we excited about this this is uh a june 24th show just a reminder. Hey, there was a championship awarded last night.

Congrats goes out to the the heat. Big birds. The Abbotsford Wranglers. What in the Furn? At Spirid Canucks. And look at Maddie Mahotra.

The head coach getting in there. If only Quinn Hughes would like them more, he'd be the head coach of the Canucks. That's fun. That's a boy, Mani, good work. scored in Charlotte third period to ice it three to two we didn't see the old jersey the blues

yeah you've seen them thousands of times for a call just uh if you're gonna go here's the parent contrast there did you said do it's been a report do it you mike gould told me the old ones are great the new one sucks so we're done here so you have to do your homework and go and google the old ones speaking of doing your homework the olympics are coming up next winter in me Alano Cortina, which is two cities in Italy. So why is this doing homework? Because the Olympic Committee or whoever's around the website did not.

Give me a read of that photo, Jack. What does it say is the caption for the photo? Sidney Crosby is seen here playing for the Pittsburgh Pirates. We'll be donating, donning the team candidate. Donning. Doning. Doning. Oh, boy. Doning. Did you write this?

And then you had to read it. That's a problem. I don't know what's worse. The don't know. Pirates. They could use them. Come on. I bet you say the

Pirates. Get your ass together. Luckily, it's not until 2026. So maybe someone will. And also lucky for us. Let them in. We don't F up.

Go pirates. Right. Yarr. Stampeders are off this week. Kind of. Because they got the Stampede Bowl next Thursday. You guys are all invited, by the way. So they're guessing they did today.

They're getting into the mood. They're starting. Stamp. P-Tade food truck. Hey, we are here filling up for the stampede bowl with some brand new Calgary Stampede Midway food. I ain't never had a cowboy hat. Who? Which way it goes?

There you go. That's been excited. Free food. Which one got spam in it? Y'all take me at my childhood. Spam talking of a burger. Not a burger like a hot dog. My dog.

My dog. I think we found a winner here. Look at this. There's a lot going on with these, though. I'll tell you that. What's what going on? That's the one right here. That's the one.

That's now. Yeah. See, it's food, man. Oh, God, we love to. Get the guys together. Telling you. Give us some drop. Join us July 3rd for the Sanpeepo, the greatest outdoor show on Turkey.

Guys. Are they wearing the jerseys? Is that what they're, the jersey head on there, I'm guessing. You had no idea. Do you know they're wearing? Did you even look? I was so looking at the food. I know.

Jack, can we show it again? Because they wear red and white. Right. Because they have the candy canes of their normal home ones now. These are not those. Those kind of look like the Labor Day Mondays, don't they? But the black.

I like that. But I think those. I think you're right. Because look, yeah. My guess is those are the Stampede bowl specific uniforms. And they have the Cowboys on the shoulders. I am a fan of. Yes.

Thursday night, 7.30 kickoff. Mac Mahon. Mac Mahon. Night before all the chaos of stampede. Let's go. Put it on the slate. Who's in? Jackie in.

We're all going. I'm in. I signed the four of us up. Brett Michaels. Half time. Jack Michaels is going to be singing. Pulsating action here at McMahon. We'll see you there Thursday.

It should be a blast. I think we could between the, I know a few people tailgating. We could do a real good food thing. before kickoff. It's over there. Chicken dip. I don't know what I mean. I love that Buffalo chicken dude.

Delgating 7.30 kickoff. Perfect. I actually was thinking about the Buffalo chicken dip last night. Were you really? And I was thinking about if I was going to have a fancy cookout. I was going to fry some onion rings. Yeah. Put the buffalo chicken dip in the middle of the onion ring.

Is that right? That would be the. That would be your scoper? Just a little crunch. Yeah. That could be a stampede. grounds special stampede food. Onion rings with hot chicken dip in the middle.

Oh. Be messy, though. Nice. Hey, Stampede. Supposed to be. Colorado. Great ideas. Canadian men back in action of the Gold Cup.

They have a win and a draw. Where's that, no clue. Playing in Houston tonight at the Shell something something stadium, where I believe the MLS side in Houston plays. Jack, who they play. tonight. El Salvador. Yep. Close. Is that all right? El Salvador, yeah. Now, where is El Salvador? Remind us.

I have no idea. Okay. Part of the world. Continent? Stop. And if you do, if you do happen to have a bad burn while you're in the kitchen making those onion rings, you would put some El Salvador on it. This one goes at eight tonight, again from Houston, the Shell Energy Stadium. Win this one. You're through fellas. You're heavily favored. Let's get it done. To what? The American education system is field check. I hate to say he's had many of us

formative years in our country's educational system. All of that might be true. It might be true. Yeah. If they get through, they'll be into the semis, I believe. It should be great because Go Canada. It's their last tune up before the

World Cup that they're partially hosting next summer. Very good. Motorsports are crazy. This might be the greatest final lap ever. Jack, you love motorsports. I love well hang on because I've never seen this for this is like dirt track with jumps and it's full chaos

let's just feast our eyes here. The final West County Potawatomi turn number one it's Kicking Kins J. Graves just a couple quarters to go can Kincade hold on the underdog pro two trying to win at his hometown track

remember the pro cores can go wherever they want. Tulsating action in the final turn. This is full chaos, but now check this. Now they're going to get it. They're stuck together. I said that happened before. We were going to go one two, but now, uh...

It's embarrassing. You got to call in somebody. Who's got to be a hard, though. I don't know. That was your pick. Kiki K. They're all going to get back around. Who's the third? Come on now.

Freeway. Got your leg. Three-way finish? There it is. Here's the finish line. Your hometown boy. The Lucas Oil back for. Go to get the job done.

Cheney's going to put him. What it is. Love all the sports. So good, right, you always love to do sports. There you go. There you go, Rhett. That's what you asked for, and that's what you got. That was not a minute and a half.

You'll never get back. You loved every second. Oh, number four. I wore number 40. Do they do these kind of things in Calgary? This would be fun to go to. See, Jackson. This is more when you get outside of Calgary, yes.

I called stock car races in Fort St. John and Penticton, believe it or not. I know lots about Carosteen. Ryan, you love motorsports. So let's take a look at some motorsports. What are we got? two jack what's 92 here let's take a peek here okay uh yeah i got a big baseball fan ryan if you like we know you love the baseball really short clips this is not for you all of triple a and stolen bases just tell he wins today in jacksonville

leams the game notes so gar so guard battling so great is bad bad for so guard what do we get two boys another two two and sogi So key is high and tight the pay off strike and so guard nicks it fell It's a full count Lucky number 13 from Estrada Just battling what a battle I mean battle baby battle battle battle Of this at bat is foul back

The 17 pitch is fouled back It's number Jeez They can work. The 19th pitch is low for a ball. They appeal to see if he swung on the ad bet. That's a war. Good work.

So guard. So gee. So good. So good. So great. Finally, pillowboxing. Coming to a Rett TV near you. I'm okay.

It's a beautiful. This is apparently a thing because, we're watching it how are you these pillows jack have done any research on this what i'm like in front of turboys he's cutting off yeah there's show highlights

this is a thing now I'm more in favor of this than the slap the guy in the head giving CTE thing that we're doing the slap chop games or whatever that is the clown's got a good got a good block there good guard what does it be good there look at that

left ham no Oh, spinning back pillow. Look at the ladies doing it too. How about that? Any interest in promoting an event in Canada? Oh, this is the thing. This is not it. This is the slapping one.

Oh, neither. Yeah. Anyway, just very exciting stuff and not a waste of your time. You're welcome. There's a pillow fighting league. It's not the end of June. Definitely not the end of June. Lots to talk about.

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We're good at excuses here. Follow through, not great. Excuses, phenomenal. Yeah. If only. If only. school over yet? I believe Thursday, half day in my school.

Yeah. This week for you as well. But when you have kids, Jack, some of them decide that it's optional the matter of what. Some of them get taught that from their dad. Yeah, the one's been just hanging around the house. Like, do you not have school? I was done like last week.

Huh? I mean, done. I see. The best part is here. We just assume that it's the truth. Well, it must be telling the truth. He would never lie. Just that newsletter.

I didn't see a report card. or anything. Do you not have exams? Yeah, they stopped doing that report cards dad. Oh, do we have exams like finals? Do we test for anything anymore? No, hey, just if you show up and then leave enough days, you're good. You're through.

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Flamingo of Brazil. Wasn't the other team for Brazil? Yeah, that's what we're doing it again. MLS against Brazil. Tie yesterday plus 162. Today, tie plus 240. Let's hit it. All right.

Also, Ernie Clement mashes lefties. He's hitting 4.34. four against left-handed pitching this year. On the road, he's hitting 514 against lefties, plus 180 for two hits. I guess which hand the Cleveland starting pitchers throws off. So Ernie plays for the Jays? That's correct. All right, go get him, Ernie.

And the Cleveland pitcher throws at this left, which was why we like that. Lauer strikeouts a little riskier in my mind. He's had eight his last outing, but has been a nobody until this year. And suddenly he's good at pitching, it might not last forever. But I'm going to roll the dice today. and only plus 125. So if you're going to, you have less confidence in that one.

Then the Ernie, I do. Ernie's been so good against Lefty. Let's go, so he's due for an offer because I've said it on the show. There you go. Bet 365.

Get that up. Oh, sign it up. Get in. Get it going. You know who said they'd come on the show? Who? We were in town for Stampede. Who starts next week?

Bigern. Biggerne? Yes. I would love to get Biggeron on the show. one his son is around the same age of my turkey he don't care no i just think he'll be in the mix right now for what oh just all kinds of this boys are idiots we could get kid hockey stories all that we'll get brian in and then talk about yeah kids yeah so uh baker and how's your uh is your son is he into right in the mix with a bunch of stuff yes eh wow yeah a bunch of

they're real scamps at that age little turkeys scampy getting into trouble and stuff and that's yeah these are the good years though you know time flies that'll get those years back so we don't have to come in for that

if you're gonna talk kids right sure yeah I'll know that on my own that's great what they are you doing that just so I can plan I'm asking you I'm well he's waiting for me to order texting big on I'm doing it right now trying to work well then we can do

I'll hit that we have one of these it's a super chat oh baby proceeds to the youth centers of calgary if you're in the if you're watching the show live you're in the chat you put some money down we'll put your comment on the show one today from rm b rm b's in every day 27 dollars and 99 cents wow generous hard rebuild hubert o to contender retained 50 percent next year or year or two if he will waive no move trade either nass or Raz or both to Toronto retain 50% for Cowan, Riley, and high draft picks.

Sign Wolf ASAP, 8 years 60 million. And Ball eight years, 40 million. Generally speaking about okay with that. I don't know what you want with Morgan Riley, which is actually spelled wrong because he has his name spelled weird. I thought it was a different rally. Yeah. Everything else is like, yeah, if you could do all those things, they'd be great.

Yes, I mean, spelling aside. They've been a little bit timid around retaining salary. That was the first snafu on the Markstrom deal. Eventually they did. But if they got a little more keen on it, you could probably juice the pot of it on the returns. I'm with you on that, I'm right. I'm not sure what a,

what circumstance exists. Sounds like a terrible shot, but I'm sorry. Who is trading for Jonathan Hubert? At half attention, what's he making? Five and a court? Who is trading for Jonathan Hubert? No, Montreal can a damn, because he probably,

vu francis that so that be the only one guy okay then they'll probably say no so why would montreal because he speaks french oh he's a 60 point winger for five million that's a steel of a deal don't look how old he is yeah yeah throw it back up there jack we're we're going through this that was 2799 hard earned dollars that's true um yeah he's gonna have to wave uh i'll wait to montreal would he retain 50 for next year or two Is that how it goes? You don't have to do the whole... You have to retain for the whole thing.

I think what R&B is saying is you'd make that trade in the next year or two. But you can't... If you retain, you retain for the entirety of the deal. You cannot adjust your retention year. And last year was his first year? No, one. Second. Only six left.

God damn it. That is how you start using your cap on more, isn't it? It's an asset. I can't make the boss man do it. Trade either NAS or RAS or both the T.O. Retain 50. Well, I mean, for Rasmus, there's nothing to retain. It's one year.

So, I mean, you can retain. Absolutely do that. The NAS retention would be more significant. It only retained so many, though, right? Right. You have three retention slots. You're using one on Marshall until the end of this year. For Cowan.

Cowan's a good player. And high draft picks. They don't have high draft picks. That's the other thing. You're going to be way out into the future if you're getting hydrophics and the lease. So really what you're doing there is it's picks down the road or Cowan. I don't think they want to get rid Riley. They might not move on for Morgan Riley.

They need someone to do what he does. That's the problem. Well, that's just it. Like he doesn't really have a guy that can run a power play there. If you're a cup contender, you're not. Have you improved your decor so much by moving Riley out and, Anderson in? Like you're trying to build on it, right?

Not let him keep Riley. And Rasmus is probably, but the thing about Cadry, this is not happening. No, nothing's happening. No, this is all. This is absolutely zero percent. It's a fun conversation.

La, la, land. But if you were wanting to sell on Codry, which you're not, but if you were, he's the type of animal that they've got in Florida. If you watch the Panthers, you're impressed by the bloodth, dogs. the bloodthirsty nature of what the Panthers show. Then Cadre is that.

Now they do go Barkov Bennett, we think, and Lundell, one, two, three down the middle. No, I'm just saying any team you'd be talking to. Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. There's the play against the-Codry has the DNA that makes Florida great. Thank you. I know, I understand. Sign wolf ASAP.

It seems like eight years at. Is there a thing? It's like eight times eight is 64. Yeah. it's going to be more than that yeah i mean if so pen pen pen yep and ball eight years five that's fair yeah sure i don't come ball going to say no to 40 million i'd offer him yeah i don't see if he does god it'd be nice to be able to have 40 million to balls to do it a great show today such a good show i really enjoyed it quick a show ever today such great wow oh we got noodles to more

So we'll be friends. Noods, the Nudler. Our show is strictly based on people. Did we be nice to noodles tomorrow? You guys absolutely like, full court press on him last. You know what? If he's going to talk like a dumb ass,

just the conversation among buddies. If he's going to wear his Oilers, PJs to bed, we're going to have to call him out on it. Clearly, he was hanging out with some people and he didn't get enough sleep. And he was all pouty face. We never had to lay it into him a little bit. All right. It's teammates keeping each other honest.

Appreciate that, right? It's all love. Let the guy have an opinion. Let him form a sentence. Yeah, about. Yeah. It's like what Pinder gets going. If it's a stupid opinion, I'm up.

Right. All right. How long do you think we can keep them tomorrow? Oh, we owe him a short one, don't we? Oh. We've never had a short one. Well, that's what I mean. It's always double what he's.

Yeah, the poor guy's been very kind of this time. He's been very kind with this time. We love him. Yeah. Don't be confused that you have a debate doesn't mean we don't love him. So he'll be here tomorrow. You know what? We should send him.

A bottle of whiskey, you Frank? Boton. Some meat? Yeah. A bird of beef. He'd love that. Yep. We could do that.

So he was talking about his neighborhood in Toronto. Now he's fairly picky, but I have a fairly good idea of what he likes. Yeah. He is picky, right? Oh. He would eat chicken and rice. Yeah. Did he used to have 27 security cameras or is that a new wrinkle?

He's always been a hypochondriac. He's a funny dude. Reward. Does he sleep? He's good at going without sleep. I'll say that. But I think he likes, he's one of those guys when he needs to turn it on.

Yeah. He's a hard worker. Too, way too hard. He enjoys, obviously enjoys it. I don't get that. there has to be some level. Do you remember how miserable he was and he was at that resort in the tropics?

Yes. God, he hated it. He was just like, yeah, we're like, we're leaving soon. Like, I'm just calling these. I'm making calls.

He had a liquor drink. Spreadsheet. Yeah, he had some vodka drink and a coconut and he's talking us about line combos. Yeah, you can actually stretch out and enjoy this.

No, no, I don't like the sun. I'm under an umbrella here. It's too warm. I'm in the room. Just breaking down some video last night. buddy it's vacation

it's all different kinds so he's not really a nerd there are nerds no he's totally a hockey nerd he's breaking down video on vacation on the tropics that's nerdy yeah I don't know it doesn't strike me as a nerd

their penalty kill formation you're in the tropics what are you doing genius yeah and storyteller extraordinary that's where they and it sounds like an entrepreneur

entrepreneur entrepreneur a dabbler yeah he dabbles hey he's got his finger in a lot of different pies yeah water bottles and remember our old producer yeah wife's pie always flapper delicious new producer

can't even get a girlfriend or pizza when's pizza day jack didn't even tell us the draft was happening this weekend sleeping it's the week of the draft switch you learned about back burner like today You could have helped me out when Pinder asked how many guys.

He doesn't know any names either. Yeah, I have no idea. Well, you've got a computer right there. El Salvador. Doning a Pittsburgh Pirates jersey. Sorry about the show today, everyone. We'll try to be better tomorrow, but there's no problem. You guys are great.

Okay, great. Me, not so much. Shut up, Jack. See, buddies.