Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Kipper Stories With Noodles | FN Barn Burner - February 21st, 2024
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Oh, buddies.
Welcome to the program on a Wednesday.
I'm all out of...
Yeah, it doesn't feel like a Wednesday,
do you know, I think we're going to have to amend that.
I know it says Wednesday here on this piece of paper,
but no.
I'm not sure what's going on.
Anyway, it's a Wednesday.
I have it on good authority that is a Wednesday.
We're still in the month of February, but it's fleeting.
February is, it's slipping through our fingers.
A week in a day.
Some would say.
That's all we got left.
Week in the day.
And then a week from there and Connie's going to have the whole team traded.
Is he doing that?
What's he, what's he up to?
Why.
He had the poker tournament.
I saw the flame's other.
Poker tournament.
Is he pokering?
Was he doing?
He's playing poker for sure.
Yeah.
Poker on.
He's a good tune up for the, for the deadline, isn't it?
Well, maybe somebody's to do a little less poker and a little more work on the phones.
He's sitting on pocket aces with those D men and a goalie.
He'll say, oh, yeah.
Yeah.
He's got it.
Because what you do there is you worked the poker angle in on kind of the trade deadline pair of a two player.
Are you explaining the joke that the joke, the joke's on me.
Gene, don't explain the doke.
The doke's on all of us.
Now, did you say you were having high level conversations?
My goodness, the flames are central players, my friend.
You can schmooze with hockey people of all 32 organizations,
and they'll tell you, flames are a central figure.
You can read about it, a lot of journalists talking about it,
sports reporters, et cetera.
And if you're a team that needs D, Suts.
Now you got Suts going to.
Oh, geez.
Settled down, Darrell.
Dated, Darrell.
The loving was the real poker player,
if you ever went to those poker tournaments,
which was yesterday for the flames.
Wouldn't even look at the cards.
just stare at you.
Yeah. There's a lot of those guys, they would just
first hand. They wouldn't even just
All in.
Yuri Huddler. All in.
All in. Did you look at your card?
No. Oh, so you're going in blind? I don't know what that means.
But I'm all in.
Okay, guys. See at the bar. Yeah. Here's my jersey.
Please let me go home. Please. Let me leave.
No, it's, I mean,
if you're a Flames fan, even for people like us,
you're really checking your phone fairly regularly for any kind of text, email, updates, Twitter, X, whatever, Tiki, Tic-Tac-Tac-Tac-Tac-in.
Is Tic-Tac-Tac-Tac-N-Tac-N? That's interesting. Yeah, I better get on that.
Because, yeah, he's, to use that, to quote Roman Raines or The Rock or whatever, he's at the head of the table.
He is at the head of the table. Yeah.
So you've got the best left-shot defenseman who's 27 and eligible for an extension, and you have the best right-shot defenseman.
on the market who is a rental and just turned 34.
Everybody wants TANF, hey?
Yeah.
No one wants to give Connie a first yet, and that's what he's asking for.
So, I mean, everyone would like him at the price of a second plus.
Connie wants the late first.
So you need it first.
Sorry.
Well, or it's, you know, 10 minutes till midnight and you say, okay, that didn't work.
Second to do.
We'll take a second plus.
Who's got the best plus out there?
So he'll be trying to call people's bluff.
you're so excited about your soundboard, are you?
I've got another soundboard.
I got a couple things going here, but I can't.
I got to patch this thing in.
I don't know what the hell's going on.
It's not working.
Sad.
Anyway, it's exciting, I think.
Usually you don't want, I don't know, maybe I'm not the right guy to talk to.
I'm excited by it.
I look forward to seeing these trades.
Let's make some trades.
It gives us something to talk about this whole thing.
On the flip side, it means your team is probably not doing very well.
otherwise you'd want to be keeping the year. You're a good team. You're moving forward.
You want to be buying at the deadline. Who are we bringing in? Who's our new guy going to be?
Like in Vancouver, they're loving old Elias. It's, oh, it's just so great.
Well, although I saw, what is it? They've leveled off a little bit.
They've lost three in a row for the first time all season after falling last night.
Our buddy, Nick Alberga, four, and one now since the Colorado trade are the,
No, no reduzies there, Alvin.
We're keeping, we're keeping the,
I, I've heard they're trying to re-duzzi a Zodorov,
but it's not back to Calgary.
No, we're not doing it.
No, no reduzies.
No, somewhere else can get Zadarov, yeah.
No, he can be, he can go somewhere else.
Yeah, not all the skies falling for Vancouver.
No, it's not.
They've been on an absolute PEDO heater all year.
They're due for some bad luck.
They've got some bad luck in three in a row,
and it'll be interesting.
It's their first really,
like they'll be in a home ice position
in the postseason for the first time
in maybe the Pedersen era.
The other one was in the bubble.
It didn't really count.
And like they might be the top seat in the division.
That comes to some pressure
and it's going to be a first time
for a lot of these guys in a real playoff series.
Interesting.
Pressure.
Yeah.
Pressure.
I was going to say it almost.
18 flames or no.
Because of all that it almost feels kind of like house money
because there was no expectations.
But it doesn't feel like they're a team.
that you can expect to be.
It's not like there's a window that's opening.
They've got a lot of money.
They've got to pay Pedersen this summer.
They've got to pay Heronics this summer.
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Our buddy Jamie McClennan are going to join us coming up here in a matter of moments.
A bit of a humdinger between the old the Pantaros and the senators last night.
I'm guessing he was covering it in some way, shape, or form.
As two this year.
Because remember, yeah, Grandma Kach was all like,
Are you boys?
I told me not to be doing
scrapping.
She was a lot of, yeah.
There was pushing and shoving.
Yeah, totally.
They were getting,
tell us about the game.
Tell us about the Panthers
and the senators last night, right?
Yeah, what did you see there?
Well, the scrappiness was,
it was infectious.
I really liked it.
The intensity of it all.
Two top end teams going at it.
Nobody wanted to give an inch.
Man, I couldn't sleep after.
I was so enthralled with the performance.
Just wound up, hey?
Yeah, totally wound up.
That was inspiring stuff, really inspiring.
What'd you guys think?
Are you living out of your vehicle now?
Is that what's happened?
Yesterday he was too, yeah.
It's possible I've lost all my wealth and savings and don't have money,
but I don't think that's any of your concern, Dean, so I don't think you need to.
Well, I just don't be our concern.
It's kind of our concern.
Yeah, there's this thing.
Home studio.
Now you're in your car a lot.
We're just wondering if.
Well, I'm not at home, so.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's in Ohio, HIO.
Cincinnati.
Skyline chili, Pinder.
That's the one.
Okay, we were talking about what is the signature Cincinnati food?
You know, it's what, Permanati brothers?
Do you know in Pittsburgh?
You know, you got to get a.
Yeah, because we talked about this before the Super Bowl.
You had ribs in Kansas City.
Yeah.
And I said, well, it's skyline chili.
No, it's Cincinnati.
Cincinnati.
I wanted you just put a whole bunch of grated cheese in top of the chili
bowl, is how it is?
It pretty much looks that way.
I didn't try it because I was uninspired.
I like chili, but it was a nice.
It'll bung you up.
All that cheese, it'll bung you right tight if you're not careful.
I mean, when you're living in your car,
and you got to take a shit all of a sudden,
you got to,
doesn't that feel lazy as far as your signature dish for a,
yeah, chili?
Like, we're going to take a, take a dish and then just put a,
a bunch of cheese on it.
There's got a more, too, but I mean, it feels very
Cincinnati though, right? Maybe the city is that
skyline. Skyline. It's got to be called
Skyline. So I'm not sure.
Is it a beautiful skyline?
I've not noticed much.
No.
And the thing about a skyline, you will notice it if you're in the city.
So I'm going to say no to the skyline.
Yeah. Especially when you're right in it.
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I was just asking Rhett.
I said to Rhett, the Panthers and the senators got into a,
it was a good old schlobber knocker last night between these two teams.
I asked them about his thoughts in the game,
and he was saying, what was it again?
Yeah, what was that thing he said?
I said so much.
Kept you up at night or something.
Yeah, it could fall asleep.
The intensity of it all was infectious.
Infectious, I think it was the word.
There was an infectious.
It was a crock of shit noodles is basically what I came down to.
And I shouldn't expect.
But no, I went and caught a looksy this morning.
There's some reason to believe that these senators might be,
they're fun to watch, right?
right? They're not winning games. They lose last night, but they're up for a scrap.
There's some offense there. I still, I'm still, we've been waiting and waiting for the
senators, but they went toe to toe with one of the league's best and took it to OT.
Well, in a back-to-back situation as well, because they'd beat Tampa the night before.
They're still an enigma of a team. You know, they'd won four, four in a row, and then they
play an egg that night. And then they go into Chicago, they lay an egg. And then all of a sudden,
they go into Tampa and they play their most complete game of the year. And then they go in a
back-to-back situation, Florida's coming off a nine-two drubbing, giving it to Tampa on the weekend,
feeling pretty good about themselves. And they're down to nothing heading into the third. And they
push back. And you're right, they push back not only physically, but in the game. It's disappointing
if you're a Sends fan because the season is gone as far as making the playoffs.
But, you know, that's the team that fans envisioned at the start of the year,
where they got some good goaltending.
You know, you saw a step from some of their players.
Chickren looks like he's, you know, obviously, I think he's on the trade bait board,
but that's a guy that has been playing well recently.
Shabbat's been in and out as far as playing, you know, elite hockey.
Shane Pinto's really helped them.
I mean, that, you know, him missing 41 games.
really hurt their depth. You know, Josh Norris is playing limited in minutes, but, you know,
that game alone last night, I called it. I just came back from Florida this morning.
You know, that was heavyweight hockey. Like Florida is a serious team. I'm going to say
that they're one of the teams that they're a complete package because they come to play.
They play for keeps. They hit to hurt. They've got skill. Bobrovsky's a good goaltender.
Their D are active like Eklad and Montu are all over the ice.
I looked last late that was a thing
you keep the scorers off the board
and it was Eckblad and Montour
to get the goals
they've won six and a row
they're a real handful
right and we shouldn't be shocked
and Kachuk is on an absolute tear
he's got
he had that slow start
remember because he was rehabbing
from whatever that injury was that he had
since January 1st
20 games 48 points
for Matthew Kachuk
and then you throw in Reinhardt
and Berhege he's got 30 now I think
could they're they're going to be no fun man because we know that when they get to the playoffs they
can they can hang and bang there for sure well noodles they got gadjevich cousins lomburg
bennyt kachuk there are a lot of guys with dirt under their nails well that's what i was just
going to say you throw in a guy like sam bennett who literally you know the playoffs are when like
i feel like he's built for the way that he plays the style cousins is a pain in the ass to play against
you know, Lomberg is a pain in the ass to play against.
Like they,
they, Stanlin on that fourth line as well.
Like they've got some players there,
like I was saying,
the way that they're built.
And I was talking to Brian McCabe and Roberta Lwango last night.
Oh, name drops.
Wow.
I caught up with a couple friends.
I mean, I played with both of them.
And I text them afterwards.
I said, I'll come down and see you after the game.
So just asked them.
And they said, you know,
The team learned a lot from that run.
Like really, if you go deep into the playoffs,
you learn how to win,
you learn how to play in tough games, right?
And they're comfortable in any different type of game.
They can play a scale game, no problem.
But you mentioned Pinder, like dirt under their nails.
Like that team has some grit.
And I don't think they had their best last night,
but they had good enough to win that game.
They did what they needed to do.
So they're one of the best teams.
I've gotten a chance now.
to see every team in the league live this year.
Wow.
They're serious.
Because you would see the Eastern Conference more than anything else.
Would they be, are they the team to come out of the East in your mind?
I mean, they're serious.
I have a tough time betting against Boston.
I keep betting against them going,
okay, is this the year that they've taken some, you know,
some players off the table with Bergeron and Crichy?
And, you know, they just continue to elevate.
Don Sweeney is a guy, I think, will be proactive at the deadline.
He always ends up coming up with a really crafty move.
You know, they have value signings, too.
You look at JVR all of a sudden, have, you know, resurgence there.
And he's on, you know, his pennies on the dollar, right?
So Boston is a serious team.
I think, you know, I don't want to sleep on Carolina either.
If Carolina could get goaltending, I think they're legit.
And then there's teams that are kind of,
I'll call it in that second tier, even though I'll not be disrespectful,
but that's Tampa, that's Toronto, that's Detroit.
That's the Rangers.
The Rangers are a team.
If Schisturkin actually got onto a role, which he's playing better lately,
I think the Rangers are a really good team too.
But you've got, you know, some surprises like Philadelphia.
Philadelphia, Torts has got them playing for keeps.
But, you know, some of the teams that I've seen live, I would say Florida,
Vegas, Colorado, you know, the new version of Edmonton,
not the one that, you know,
six weeks where they're out to lunch.
You know, some of these teams,
they come,
you know,
Vancouver stubbed their toe a little bit recently.
They've lost three in a row.
So we'll see if they can dig out of it.
You know,
Winnipeg's a good team.
So there's a lot of good teams in the league.
But I would say Florida,
the way that they're built,
there's no weaknesses.
You like Dallas?
I didn't hear it,
but I think you probably would include them there or no.
I do.
I don't think they're done.
I think that they're,
you keep hearing.
Yeah, exactly.
They might need a D.
but you know
but ultimately
I do like Dallas
because if you look at it
I feel like you need stars in every position
Ottinger you know
a couple years ago against Calgary
he almost he damn near stole that
series he almost stole the series
and Johnny scored short side
on that like OT goal
and then
you know I thought he kind of had
had a little bit of a regression year last year
but he's a six
foot six really talented goal tender. Haskin is a star. You know, Robertson's a star. Like the one thing,
when you used to think of Dallas, it was always Ben and Sagan. They're farther down in the lineup.
They're supporting cast now, which is fine. There's no disrespect with that. But now you've had
some players that have pushed through. And even a value signing like Marchment, you know,
he comes to play every night too. So it's, it's very interesting. I think Dallas is a, I should have
included them, but they kind of are a bit of a sleeper for me. They shouldn't be, though.
They're a really good team. What are your thoughts on Skyline Chili?
Yeah, we were talking with that when we came in. It's kind of, it's what a signature dish
in Cincinnati, Ohio. And we were just wondering, what, what's the big whoopty do over Skyline
chili? I don't know. You know, you, it better come with a porta potty or at least a key to the
bathroom. Yeah. Well, that's the way I would say, because, you know, you've,
It hits people differently.
Put it that way.
We're getting varying reviews here.
I'm hearing bunged up.
I'm hearing it's going to go right through you.
We need more data here.
Well, he is beans, isn't it?
Like beans.
It can be, yeah, yeah.
It's whatever you want it to be.
Well, what I'm saying is I don't think, you know,
I'm not a chili person because I don't,
I've got the pallet of a four-year-old,
so it's chicken, fingers, and fries.
And when you start adding in spices and onions and stuff like that,
chunks of tomato. I'm not going to eat that. What I'll do is I'll have old school chili,
which is just basically ground beef with some, some, you know, seasoning, maybe a bean or two,
and you cook it really well and you put it on toast. You make a sandwich out of it. That's like a
chili sandwich. It's like a sloppy Joe. Yeah. It's not really sloppy. I like it well done.
Not really good. So. Yeah. It's like because I'm reading here, there's some wild ingredients
potentially in here like chocolate and uh that's ridiculous though they're trying to be a you know what
you're trying to be a hero when you start putting chocolate with beef and stuff like that's ridiculous
you don't do that yeah like where are you in cincinnati cincinnati ohio do you remember
remember the name you be the mayor there yes he did yes well done
every springer episode for about two years in calgary so you're tough uh Curtis Brackenberry
Kurt Brackenberry, right-handed shot, kind of fuzzy hair.
Not anymore, but yes, tough, tough, tough.
His nail.
Yeah.
Unsweetened chocolate is the secret ingredient in Cincinnati slash highline chili that makes it different.
Apparently, apparently, adds rich flavor.
Well, there you go.
That's still, that's a hairy done situation from dumb and dumber.
I'm telling you go.
Yeah.
Just shaving.
Just shaving.
so I feel like that's unnecessary calories in there putting chocolate in there for for whatever reason
uh well I sent you at Texas I wanted to give you a couple you know like like your bowels and
like Harry's bowels just get things moving percolating moving around uh we're we're we're
count down the days till Kipper night here in town a couple weeks a couple weeks away it's going to be a fun one
is there any kind of with a couple weeks to go and a couple visits with noodles in advance
just some some kipper stories is there is there a kipper story that uh you know yeah kind of fond of
i'm sure you have plenty of them but uh anything worth sharing okay so i'm not gonna i'm trying to
save a couple stories for you know my speeches and your big speech yeah you are speaking right
yeah i am speaking which i'm very excited about but i also have to you know get my
together and figure out if he jams me up or not. But I do have a funny story. I read,
you might know this story, but it's more, you know, it's kind of an on ice and off ice
situation. So our trainer, Mark DePosqually Depot, had, has kids and at that time had younger
kids and had bought a guinea pig. I don't know if I've told you guys this story.
Oh, we're good. So he had bought a guinea pig and Kipper,
And Depot and Kipper are very close.
Depot did a lot for Kipper and they just were very good friends.
Kipper found out that Depot to save extra money, or this is what Kipper told me, so I don't
know if it's embellished or not, the guinea pig only had one eye because he goes, they got the
guinea pig, the kids chose it and it only had one eye.
And he made a story up that Depot saved money on it, so that's why he bought it.
So he, you know, Kipper starting, he would love to like start little rumors and be like,
Depot bought a guinea pig that was half price because it only had one eye.
So, you know, and people would get mad and, you know, kind of defending it.
So we're, I remember that night we're playing.
He told that story, morning skate and Depot was, came into the room to defend himself.
And then that night we're playing.
And every time we came, Kipper came to the bench for a TV time out to drink water,
he would be staring at Depot and always closed his eyes.
He always had one eye.
And he would ask for a towel, ask for water,
but he would always have one eye closed asking him a deeper.
And the guinea pig's name was winky.
So you imagine like we're, you know, we're trying to play hockey.
We're trying to win games.
We're trying to do all this stuff.
And Kipper's loving it.
He's laughing.
You can see him.
you know, he does the one eye thing to Kipper,
throws the, or to Depot,
throws the towel back to him,
pulls his mask down, goes to the net.
And he did it all game.
And then we're going into,
I think we went into overtime and then a shootout.
And the shootouts begins,
Kipper comes to the bench and he's staring at,
and I'm saying,
I can't remember what I said to him.
And he's literally staring at Depot with his eye close.
And he didn't say a word.
He's just staring at him.
And then just skates back to the net.
Like, that was Kipper in a nutshell.
Like we all think that,
he's super dialed in, which he is and was, and an amazing dialed in athlete, but there
his six sense of humor that he, the whole day, he's bothering Deepo about a one-eyed guinea
pig.
So that's, for me, that's hipers sense of humor and, you know, his, his ability to just
read the situation.
Like I say this all the time, you could never tell the score.
like if it was seven one one way or the other way he just looked the same he just wore the game
the same way that was his calmness but he had a very funny sense of humor and that was you know
him him bugging depot he was constantly always bugging depot that's part of his strength as a goaltener
and as an athlete right is because even though he's having fun with it he's not distracted or
failing at what he's good at it's it doesn't because it doesn't take him away
from his performance.
No, his ability to understand the game.
I was working on my speech, actually, on the plane this morning.
I'm just talking about, you know, his God-given ability,
but then how cerebral he was.
He saw things with the game that were so far ahead.
He would read plays.
His read of the plays coming towards him was the best I'd ever seen
and understood and talking to him
and understanding where his threats were coming from on the ice.
and where he needed to be.
You know, he was so cerebral,
but it was his ability to just not let the moment overwhelm him.
He was just so calm.
He had fire and he was passionate.
Don't get me wrong.
But he was able to channel it in a way where he just didn't,
he didn't get overwhelmed.
Like he embraced the situation.
Whatever it was, he's like, I can handle this.
So it was, it was always cool.
I never had that ability.
I was a nervous player.
I was a nervous wreck all the time.
I, you know, overthought the game a million times in my head where, you know,
Kippert, he was the other way.
He just, he knew how good he was and he knew that, you know,
he could perform to his capabilities,
but he was able to keep it light.
And there were many times on the bench and comments in between the period.
He would make a smart-ass comment where, you know,
underneath his breath, you kind of chuckle.
And then, you know, afterwards you talk about it.
So very impressive to work.
Let me ask you.
I mean, you were one, a goalie coach.
Marku was a goal.
You don't have to one-on shot on me, please.
Let's go back to the four.
But how much, like, Kipper came from the HL.
He was the third goalie in San Jose.
Clearly, God-given ability, this is that, this and that.
How much did Marku help him?
I think a lot.
And it wasn't, I would say the signs of a good goaltender coach can help a
goaltender maximize what they have.
I always say this if you break it down, every player, so let's talk every goalie
has a toolbox and certain things you can put into the box.
And, you know, Kipper's toolbox was massive because he just had so much skill.
But what you're able to do, Marku would work on things, for example, you know, reverse VH, sealing the post, okay?
I didn't have the flexibility to do it.
So he would say, okay, let's try this.
You know, you would add things to your toolbox that worked for you.
Kipper just had the ability to do all of it.
So what Marku was good at was his preparation, his repetitiveness as far as some of the drills to prepare him for the game.
I know like Kipper
Kipper probably could have coached himself
But a lot of times when you're a goalie coach
You are the eyes in the ears
You are an extension of that goalie union
Because you think about it
You go into a coach's room
Coaches are like to hell with the goalies
Stop the puck, shut your mouth, that's it
So you're in the room
And you're battling with the coaches
Or management or anybody going
Hold on a second here
I know the goalie allowed a goal
But there was eight mistakes in front of it
Let's look at that
let's clean that up and then maybe to give the goaltender an opportunity to make the save.
Marku helped Kipper, I think, on a lot of different levels,
the preparation for the game, the repetitiveness of the drills,
the preparation of the drills.
Because a lot of times, if you have 25 minutes that you want to work with your athlete,
you've got to maximize that 25 minutes.
And I thought Dave Markoo was really good at that.
He's a communicator.
So I think the goalie coach is, I look at it.
I look at now.
I think Sean Burke's a great goalie coach.
I really do.
But he has a certain type of goalie.
Aidan Hill, you know, these big six foot five, six foot six goalies where they're economical
in the net.
Jason LaBarbra, I think is a good goalie coach.
It's about communication.
He's a big goalie.
He can obviously relate to Markstrom, you know, relate to Vladar because goalies are bigger
nowadays.
It's all about the relationship you have.
So yes, coming back to the long answer to what you're talking about with Marku, he did help
him.
Warren Strelow, he was a famous goalie coach for the San Jose sharks.
Now, Warren, I met at 17 years old.
I attended a goalie camp for him.
And there were drills till I was 38 that I was still doing that Warren Strelow had put in my psyche.
And now, Warren was a guy, Warren didn't go on the ice.
He was a larger guy.
He stood on the bench and just did a lot of coaching from there.
And then when he passed away, I know Nabokov, Toskala, I think Steve Shields, Kipper,
all of those guys who came from that San Jose system, they were cranking out goalies there.
And Strel was a big part of that.
So it wouldn't surprise me.
If Kippur acknowledges some of his goalie coaches, I guarantee you he will bring up Warren Strelow.
And you?
Well, I don't know.
I was more of an extension.
I was a partner that ended up just behind certain.
What was it?
Because when we had you on the off season, you were talking about just that the ability of him to be completely dialed in, but yet to completely be just a Zen.
You're in the coach's office catching shit or there's something going on and he pulls you out because he's got to talk to.
He's got something very important to talk to you.
How did that go again?
Well, yeah, one time we were, I mean, we were in one.
I think we were in a losing streak and it was very tense around there.
The pressure was coming from above.
obviously ownership to president to manager down to coaches and and then the coaches extended
into the room, right? So there's a fan base is in there as well, like all hell's, you know,
breaking loose and, you know, very tense situations. And we were in like closed door meetings.
And I remember Kipper knocking on the door. And he's like, hey, I need to talk to my goalie coach.
They're like, okay, go, go, go, you know, go talk to Kipper. Like, we're going to get this all
straightened out. And we go into Rich Heskes, Rich Heskett, the strength and
conditioning guys, he's got a little office in the workout room. And he had blinds. So Kipper had
the blinds closed and we go in. And he's looking at YouTube clips of like kids getting, you know,
kids hitting a tennis racket and a ball hitting a guy in the nuts.
Fail Army. Yeah, he's showing me like these YouTube clips. And he's dying laughing. And I'm like, he's
like, look at this. Look at this. Noodles. And I'm like, you just dragged me out of a meeting,
which is it actually was the perfect timing because, you know, what was I going to?
to contribute in that meeting.
And then, you know, really, my job was the psyche of the goalie.
And I knew he was fine.
That's the crazy part.
It was almost like he was unofficially letting me know I'm fine.
Doesn't matter if we're in a losing streak.
Don't worry about me.
Like, I'm looking at videos here and I'm cool.
Like, he had the ability to just calm the masses.
And you don't play seven years in a row, 70 plus games by accident.
Like, you know, he was, I don't think it'll ever be done again.
I mean, you know, analytics and all that factor in.
But it's just, you know, he was a guy.
It wasn't about how cut he was, how amazing shape.
He was in great shape for being a goaltender to stop to play 70 games a year.
And that's what mattered for him.
And I know you were talking about it.
I saw one of your clips.
I think it was on the flames site, just kind of talking about him.
there's a real discipline involved in in playing that position but you talked about his how he
would stretch in the stretching regimen and how long it took i i remember just being in visiting
locker rooms where there wasn't an area to do that sort of he's on a foam roller on the floor
and there's media walking around what goalie is going to do this and this is first bus is gone
second bus is gone i just wondered how many times he had to have cabed back to the hotel by himself so no
I have to get my stretching in.
This is such discipline that way, right?
It was.
And, you know, my vision of him, if you just talk about Kipper stretching would be to, you know,
backup goalie, you know, Kipper would leave early, get his shots, leave early.
Backup goalie stays out another, what, half an hour taking shots, maybe a little bit more.
I'd come off, do whatever I was doing, messing around, talking to people, all of that, do a little
stretch to ice bag, shower, all of that type of stuff.
I'd walk through the gym.
He'd still be in the spider web in the in the in the splits.
And it wasn't like he was in this.
This is the thing.
He wasn't in this trends.
He was just sitting there.
Like he's, you know, people are walking by.
He's talking to him.
He's just literally in a spread eagle like literally in the splits talking.
He might have been reading.
He's watching TV.
Like it just that was part of his routine.
and I always felt
Now, you know,
maybe it would be a question for him
in a round table or something,
but like I always felt
that maybe that was his mental preparation
to the game where I thought about,
okay, this is what I'm going to see tonight.
You know, if you're preparing,
we're going to play, you know, name a team,
Vancouver and Bertuzi and Naslin
and those guys were going to be bare,
you know, Morrison,
got to look at their tendencies.
In his mind, maybe he played that stuff over.
I don't know.
Maybe I was the only guy
who would be terrified.
and think about that all day long.
But it's just, you know, with Kip, he would stay in that stretching position.
It felt like hours.
I did witness it once where I went to Finland.
And, you know, we watched a movie.
And he was in the splits for two hours in the living room.
And like I say with this one, it'd be so easy.
I'm good.
I know I have confidence in myself.
You guys are going for lunch and, ah, fuck it.
Let's just, yeah, I'm in, boys.
Let's go for lunch.
the the commitment and the dedication that discipline it takes
no I'm going to this is what I need to do to maintain my level right and and that's
why I don't think anybody ever question him because you can there's a level of discipline
where you know Iggy's in there pounding weights and riding the bike and Robbins you know
everybody had their own little thing right that was Kipper's thing and it made him what he is so
it's you're not going to question him stretch
question his his preparation for a game because in the end he was playing 70 didn't matter what
the VO2 was didn't matter if you could bench press or do a chin up or whatever these tests are
nowadays or even back then bottom line is the guy played seven years 70 plus games a year it's
insane yeah and and and keep in mind not everyone like he wasn't healthy every night like
And they didn't treat sleep with any respect back then.
Oh, yeah.
Your travel schedule was different.
Exactly.
They didn't have sleep, you know, sleep coaches and, you know, wristbands and heart rate monitors and all of that type of stuff.
You know, and we as a team didn't respect sleep very much, you know, as a group in 03, 04.
Like we just, you know, I think sleep was a weapon sometimes.
We went on the road.
You know, married guys say you go on the road to sleep because the kids keep you up on that.
We went on the road.
We enjoyed ourselves, you know, just like we did at home.
Like sleep was a weapon only when we used it.
I mean, we didn't use it that much.
I felt like that whole year.
But it was we had a tight team.
And, you know, that's the best thing, though.
You're right.
Like you look at it, the nutrition, like it all wasn't tied together.
It was still evolving.
Kipper was ahead of his time as far.
as stretching and doing what he needed to do.
But it wasn't tied to a, you know, a protein shake.
And, hey, we got to, you know, we got to check your body fat.
We got to do all this stuff.
And it's just like, are you ready to play?
Go play.
And I think the more that he played, like, the less that Daryl dealt with him,
Daryl was just like, you're playing.
And in the media, I'm sure you guys are the same way.
It was only a big story when Kippert didn't play.
That's right.
Once a month, basically.
Once a month, it's like Kipper's getting the night off.
And that backup, whoever was playing, whether it was me or McEleney or Bush or Coojo, or you name all the guys,
their job was to give him a night off, like not to have him come in.
So if you laid an egg, man, you're in there.
You're hung out to dry.
I want to say, didn't Bush get left in for like a nine spot against Nashville or something?
Could have been.
And I was going to say, and Darrell had a lot of time for backup goalies.
It really did.
you have a lot of time from me i don't know yeah you were the only one i just remember oh man
i don't know if i let him off let him off the hook i think darrell knew what my purpose was and that
was in the room will darrell be there i hope so i heard a vicious rumor that there's a chance yeah
so i i'm i'm hoping i mean you know darrell and his legacy in cal
is directly tied to that team is directly tied to Kipper.
Maybe that trade.
The trade.
All the rest. You know what? It's all bullshit at the end of the day.
Winslaw, that whole, if he's got to be there.
And I certainly hope he knows that he has to be there.
Yeah, I think the fan base is over last year already.
It's a one year blip. You look at his legacy here. He turned this franchise around.
Yeah. And you all have had, you know, we all have relationships with Daryl of different.
magnitudes and you've all, I'm sure, had one on one time and know the fabric of the man.
He's, you know, he's a genuine, caring, you know, loving family man.
And I, I would be shocked if he wasn't there.
But the thing about Daryl is, Daryl's a lot like Kipper.
He doesn't want the fanfare.
Like, you know, he'll be in the Zamboni entrance watching.
Standing there.
Yeah, exactly.
His kid plays to the Ranglers.
He's famously seen halfway up the second deck.
No one goes to the second deck for.
the ringer he's always there he's like no he's in the rafters i heard that the other day i was
talking to a body and he said i was at the game and he goes i look up and there's darrell sitting in the
rafters by himself i go first you know like that's just that's big d in a nutshell but i'm
you know you're right like as far as like wanting to see faces there i'd be disappointed if i
looked over and didn't see darrell i think he's big part of you know kippers
legacy. And you're right, that trade is one of the best trades of flames history, really.
Some bad ones. Sharks are fine with it too, right? Because Vlasic's still playing as crazy
as that that's the pick they got. Wow. Isn't that crazy? It's impressive. All right, fellow,
appreciate you as always. Have a fine week. And we'll talk to you next Wednesday.
Sounds good, guys. We'll chat soon.
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Yeah, he'll be at the back. He'll be in the Zamboni entrance by the paramedics.
Just kind of stand there watching.
That's over. He's got to be there. Got to be there.
It's all bullshit at the end of the day, right?
This is real life.
This is this is about relationships and people and stuff.
Bygones be bygones.
I hope.
I hope there are no bygones.
So just come and have a beer.
Let's go.
Whatever.
Yeah.
I mean,
this is about celebrating that essentially that 04 team, really.
That was the,
the greatest height you guys got to.
It was an incredible run.
That was the identity of that team for the next five to eight years, I'd say.
And Darrell was a central figure.
there. He should be there. It would be criminal if he wasn't there. And whatever happened last year with
this roster has nothing to do with Saturday, March 2nd. That's all about celebrating that 04 core and,
you know, the revitalization of the franchise that that trip to the final was. I'm not sure.
Conroy's going to have all his work done. We've been talking about that, get everything done so
he can just get into the sauce and have a good time. I'm not sure. Maybe he needs to get into the
sauce to get the work done. That says. Yeah. We did.
Maybe I said, if it's not done, he's going to get a plenty of advice from his good buddies.
Too much.
Oh, yeah.
A lot of insight.
He won't have to ask, hey, guys, what do you think?
What do you think?
It'll be a lot of a lot of that coming in, no doubt about it.
I look forward to that.
Yeah, just make the cap stuff work and things like that.
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I can't just make it work.
What do you mean?
Oh, gosh, guys.
I mean, you don't understand the cap.
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fellas yesterday and off day for the flames kind of they did not skate they did play poker it was the ambassador's poker tournament which is always a great opportunity for fans to get up close and personal with the club uh put on a cowboy hat rat really just relax i got a lot of pictures yesterday from a lot of people they look everyone looks older but similar like this has been a longstanding tradition now it is true yeah it's um it's a banger that's probably the event of the year
year if you want access and fun and I also booze cowboy hats it's good didn't want to jump in
there but I was going to say I remember it was years ago when there was a photo I think it was
Bennett and monahan had their hats on backwards and that just rubbed red the wrong way I was
going to put some photos on from yesterday there's between your uh kuzmankovs and um
Sharon Govich's not a lot of western style on the team
right now a lot of white runners and uh open the snap the snap shirts but opened with you know
t-shirts underneath and they got cowboy hats on so to their credit but um where are we at with
western canadian content like that is an interesting point i haven't really thought about that i know
the pahal kid they brought in and he's got western roots that's a well he's from sasky boy right
but i mean it's a staple of sutter teams in the mid-double o's yeah it's a little left
I was not an all-time low, but certainly.
Well, Dubay's off the roster.
He's a Cochran boy.
That's some local content.
Yeah.
Ontario.
We've got some Americans.
Lots of Americans.
Lots of yanks.
Yeah, quite, quite honest.
Yeah, it's, um, got a bell Russian and a Russian.
It's interesting.
Hey, maybe that's, maybe that's what it's all about.
They got to go back to basics retro, get some.
Now, were those teams good that had all the Western Canadians?
Sweden, Toronto, Quebec, Sweden.
Cranbrook.
for Dryden Hunt, Minsk, Plano, Texas.
Rooney's an American.
Elche is Quebec, Sweden, Saskatoon,
Conor, Zerry.
Buffalo, Ottawa, Boston, Stockholm,
Sioux Falls, Slovakia, Prague,
Dearborn Heights.
That's not Albert, is it?
No, that sounds yank.
Toronto, London, Estevan, Joliette, Quebec.
That's where...
A lot of Quebec and Sweden, Dean.
So we don't have an Alberta
There's no Alberta kid on the team
A bit of Sasky there, but that's about it.
And do, babe, but no more, no more.
Well, how do you expect to win?
Well, and to be fair, there's a lot of good players
from all over.
I don't know when they went full in on Alberta.
That was peak flames.
It kind of felt like the late 80s was a lot of everywhere.
So maybe that's the template anyway.
Let's move to the standings.
What are the flames looking at here in the wildcard?
Big win for Nashville last night.
In Vegas, no less, Dino, they move into a kind of tie with the St. Louis Blues who hold a game in hand on Nashville and hold the final wildcard.
If it looks like the Kings are starting to pull away, it's because they have.
They've won four in a row since that 7-0 shalacking they took in Buffalo.
Remember about a week ago, Dean?
It was like, holy fuck, rock bottom for the Kings.
Well, it was.
They bounced back.
Rallied from deficits in Boston and Pittsburgh in back-to-back games on the road.
too good to be that bad.
And again, you feel for it's, it's kind of like
Woodcroft and Edmonton,
you knew that team was going to turn it around.
Yeah.
But they fire the coach. Is this because
Todd McClellan couldn't coach that group? I don't think so.
No. But sometimes it's just.
You need a reset. Just need a reset.
It's a power cycle. Just a hard reset.
We'll get to some of the King's action last night in a moment,
two for Dubois, I believe, and a goal of the year nominee.
But first the flame's schedule. Let's take a peek.
Why is it so slow?
Well, because look at this.
That's two weeks and four games.
That's Thursday, Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday.
That's it.
That's all.
Bruins, they looked great.
Did the flames in Boston after the All-Star break.
Bruins looked like, well, not the Bruins, that's for sure.
They look brutal in that one.
So we'll see if they're any better tomorrow night.
Then it is the Battle of Alberta in Edmonton on Saturday.
We'll be at Greta Bar.
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It's going to be well worth that with prizes, swag.
drink specials,
pump under shot after the flames first goal. Should they score one?
And then it's the Kings on Tuesday,
first of a couple visits here
in Calgary between now and the end of the season.
We haven't seen the King since before Christmas,
and that was in L.A.
So Kings coming in looking a little better
than they have been of late.
Then, of course, it's Pittsburgh and Seattle
to wrap the homestand. Pittsburgh is
Meekanite on March 2nd, which we talked about at length
with our boy noodles just moments ago.
That's kind of what we're looking at for the schedule.
A lot of home dates.
All they do is leave for Edmonton for one night.
Boy, Pittsburgh's in a bad way, man.
Yeah, they are.
I was looking this morning.
They're one for one in their last six.
And where is it here?
Poor Jack knows.
It's not lost on him.
He's kind of a Steelers and.
I can't talk.
Evgeny Malkin, no goals in his last eight.
They signed Poo Yarvey.
He had nothing in six before being healthy scratched last night.
They have three regulation wins in the last 14 games.
Not enough, Dean.
It doesn't feel like it's enough.
And then Gensel got hurt.
They can still trade him, but it makes it just a little more complicated.
It sounds like you might be healthy a week or two after the deadline.
You know what I would do?
If I'm Craig Conroy, I'm trading for Jake Gensel.
That sounds idiotic.
Please walk me through why that makes any sense.
He's a good player.
He's available.
You're going to have a plethora of picks, plethora of picks.
So you don't want to just sign him as a free agent this summer?
I don't think, well,
You need the deal in place.
I guess what I'm kind of getting at.
So you would give up assets for a rental for this year.
I assign him, like sign him signed as part of the trade and bring him in.
I would be very happy.
I know that where Pittsburgh is at, they're very, they're very old.
I get it.
I think Jake Gensel is a fine player.
Very good player.
The type of player contender wants to add at a very expensive price.
We'll see what he gets if they put him on the market.
In that ironic kind of thinking, right?
Yeah, but ironic a term.
And I just, I don't think Getzel's going to re-up for what they're looking at the next three years here, right?
I mean, I know what you're saying.
He's a very good player.
But the fit is with a contender right now.
That's who's going to swap for him.
I understand.
How about this?
Big day down memory lane.
Look at this old beauty.
We had in studio last year, a week before he was sent to the hall, front street and kids.
or
young,
front and young,
hockey all fame.
1986 this day.
Mike Vernon's first
NHL shutout.
Oh,
and he blanked the Canucks.
Man,
look at that.
I remember,
it's how frigging old I am.
I remember it was,
it was like,
wow,
they can put color on past.
See his right pad.
Of course,
it's still the brown leather,
but the Cooper with the red
background,
whoa,
down the side there.
Oh,
fancy.
The waffle board,
blocker, the Vic stick.
Is that a CCM
helmet with the
the HM 30 mask?
God. There's not a lot
of Mike Vernon there either, hey?
I was going to say there's lots of net behind him.
Like the net is probably the same size.
Yeah, it is. Yeah. Not a lot of Verny there.
If you overlaid Markstrom there, you would
not see any of Vernon. Yeah.
You would completely disappear.
So tip of the cap to our pal,
Bernie.
That boy.
Shut out.
Many movies.
months ago.
And he moons ago.
40, 38 years ago?
Yeah, that's well.
Jeez.
Goal of your candidate last night.
We talked about the Kings.
They're rolling.
This is the first goal of the game last night.
And it is a gem.
We've got a couple different angles.
Quentin byfield, Dean, not available.
Whoop.
Kick.
Whoop.
Think.
That's so dirty.
I can't think of a better goal in the league this year, Dean.
That is special.
And they're starting to feel it.
Kings and Werenski is
I can just think of just thank God.
I'm going to be on this. I am going
to be the one getting hooped
inside out on this goal for the remainder
of time. Posterized.
That's the call in the NBA. Yeah.
You're a victim there.
Hey, big minutes. Zach, you play a lot.
It's going to happen. You just got a
next shift head to head up. Well, see,
Conroy took too long. Should have traded for him earlier.
Well, I feel new. Because I'm kind
with you. I think he's probably, it's going to be hard
to pry him out of there now. Yeah. And
Brad Clark scored a big O.T. winner.
I think that was in Pittsburgh.
He's probably not moving, but they got lots of kids.
Well, Brad Clark, he is maybe still time.
Maybe still time.
But he's a player.
Byfield, 18 goals, 42 points, and 52 games.
So not quite a point per game, but just starting to click.
But he's just a wee babe.
And he's a monster too.
He's a moose.
21, 6 foot 5, 2.
And a quarter.
Two in a court.
Huh.
Yeah, they're not moving him.
I've got Mac Dog
with home point streak written down here.
Look at this.
Last night, Colorado, it was 26 games in a row.
Nathan McKinnon had a point.
He had nothing until the Canucks pulled their goalie.
Arturi.
Oh, I'll look it in it.
He scored into an empty net.
McKinnon got the helper.
The season long home point streak still alive.
Do it, Nate Dogg.
Do it.
Would that not be crazy?
Graskey did it once, apparently.
Every single home game, yeah, I got a point in all of them.
Season ticket holders, you're welcome.
Sure.
Very good player.
Very good player.
The empty netter.
No, no, no, no, no.
Point streak.
And quite a heart race we've got because, of course.
My heart's racing.
It's clogged, but it's racing.
Have you seen a position about that?
Yeah, even here, like, at a resting heart rate, just racing.
Like a hummingbird.
Yeah.
Careful there.
Slow movements, okay?
straight too far from the house.
Tonight, here's what we're looking at.
What's on the slate? What's on the slate?
Pretty light. A couple gems in the evening, though.
Three eight o'clock starts, Deno.
I'm going to let you pass on Columbus and Anaheim,
but we do have Austin Matthews back in the desert.
And Bruins Oilers, that is a rematch of the 1990 Stanley Cup final, if I'm correct.
Is it a D?
I brought this up before.
And I hate to derail you.
A D.
But is it a D at the end of the word desert?
It's a tea. Desert.
I probably say desert.
You do.
I just, because I thought maybe I had it wrong.
But what kind of a, you talked about a good old fashion,
slobber knocker, like what you're saying earlier.
Boston, Edmonton.
Yeah.
Could be a cup final preview, Ryan Pinder.
Well, a rematch from 90, as I was saying.
Cam Neely's hot.
He's ready to get some revenge here.
Well, you know, that whole thing, the lights went out,
the power went out at the Boston Garden.
Remember there was F.
Peter Clema.
Peter Clema.
Stinking Klamma.
Andy Moog, Moger in the other net.
And Tickton's finest.
Curtis Curve.
Glenn Wesley.
Ray Bork?
Was Ray Mabork?
Of course he was.
Got to be, yeah.
Yeah.
Adam Oaks.
What about Hoggy?
Was Hogg there?
A little Greg Hoggart.
Oh, great.
Okay.
Ooh, he might have been.
I think Hoggy might have been there.
And Ed mentioned in Boston, because he was both, wasn't he?
What about, uh,
Your buddy, Joey Juno.
Was he there for that?
Oh, he's a good player.
I don't think he.
That would be interesting, actually.
Was he?
Was that his first year?
All right.
Dean, you were asking, hey, Pinder,
what would the White Sox Stadium look like if instead of a field,
it was just filled with lava.
So we went to work on that.
I know that was bugging you.
There you go.
But you remember when early on in our time at the old place
And I joined your show
I went on a baseball road trip in the summer
And there was four games in a row
At guaranteed rate field
Or wherever the hell they called it in Chicago at the time
Yeah
And the one day I was going to pay a little extra
To get closer to the mound
To watch Marcus Stroman
Who lasted two thirds of an inning
The shortest out of his career
See? He's a prick
Moulton lava
That's what it was basically
Yeah. That's a negative for Joe Juno in 1990.
He was on the, it was the Canadian national team.
Ah.
For Joey Juno.
I wonder if Dave King was coaching that team.
Porth Rouge Quebec native.
Huge day in Victoria Dean, Calvary FC against Orlando City of the MLS.
This is leg one of two.
Man City.
The Champions Cup, Orlando City.
Oh.
And this is being played in Langford, which is just.
Part of clomp part of Victoria.
There it is.
8 o'clock tonight, Calgary time.
7 if you're in Victoria,
skip an anchor and Kildare's ale house down south.
Those are your options.
Go get it.
But soldiers,
get the muscles at Kildare's if you're going to go.
Very good food there.
That's a nice pub.
I was quite impressed.
Just free plugs.
Proper getting.
Well, look,
you're going to show the game, Dean.
It's on one soccer as well.
if you got the app.
Well, yeah, you can, or you can go.
So they're showing the game.
We're giving them free plugs.
Maybe get some barn burner blonde on top.
Then we'll start talking about it.
Yeah, okay, let's just talk to your muscles.
Everyone loves goalie goals, right?
You love when the goalie comes out to play the puck.
I get wet.
So exciting.
So you're going to need a towel and a smoke, Dean.
Oh, my God.
Don't do it.
Whatever you do, don't.
Five on five, all goal.
Don't show it.
Look at this dumb shit.
It's unbelievable.
Terrible.
This is what they need of the All-Star game.
This is better than Kutra of half-assan-it-through drills.
This is her.
Look at all the goleys.
You know why he's doing this, Dean?
Because he's got a goalie in his family.
And he wants it.
Now it's all about goaltending.
No, the algorithm spat this one out at me.
I wasn't hunting this.
There's a bingo right there.
Good work.
No mascot fights?
My idiot brothers, his team, his team, we were in a small,
they were in a tournament in small town Saskatchewan,
a final, Dean, a final.
Yeah.
Went to overtime, didn't score.
Four and four didn't score three and three.
Didn't score two and two.
No goals.
One on one.
No goals.
The goalies had to take face off and play one against each other.
That's unbelievable.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
That's the ice too.
That's crazy.
It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen.
And the Zambode guys just like hammering, bha, bha, bha, bha, bha.
Yeah, Zambl is a small town, small town, you got a lot to ice, all the ice.
How don't you score one on one?
That is wild.
The goal is dialed.
One on one.
Yeah.
Because even one on one's ridiculous.
That's two on two is.
I've never even.
Two on two play till there's a goal would seem to be as silly as it should get.
but yes agreed late 80s late 80s out sask nice uh in winnipeg they're loving that pier luke dubois trade
aren't they you know they got valardi i follow irasmus capari and and look at this genius of the
no one's gonna know that's a dub wagers he is he's uh exed out with tape and written valardi
campari iia follow impressive he adds that too
It's a cultural city, Dean.
I actually got a note from someone today.
He said, hey, tonight, the Calvary game, the stripenhanger.
And he said, I'm in Winnipeg.
And I said, oh, he said, yeah, a little rough around these parts.
And I said, stabby?
Question mark?
And he said, correct.
Yeah.
So it hasn't changed since you visited this summer.
Stabby.
It's quite a town.
I bet you there's some good ice fishing out there, though.
Don't you think, Dean?
Anything that's on the outskirts is better than the in skirts.
I don't know, is that a word?
But yes, anything.
God.
A lot of skirts.
No skirts here.
This is ice fishing.
I'm sure this is near Winnipeg.
And what a setup you got here.
So this looks like a nice tent.
They've got a little seat built in there.
Dean, two holes.
Maybe three.
And the one guy's going out to rip a pester, go get darts or something, I'm not sure.
Yeah.
But, you know, just make it a company.
They have a little window on the side.
I didn't realize these tents were so fancy.
This isn't.
Well, they got to have the windows closed.
He's got the snow machine hook for the...
Come on, dude.
He had the snow machine somehow.
Can it hook to the...
He didn't unhook it.
Oh, dear.
Not good.
Come on, dummy.
Maybe fishing in warmer climbs is what you're dreaming of, rat.
I know you like ice fishing, but you'd probably rather be in Florida on a pier somewhere fishing.
It's big there, ice fishing.
You're in California.
I know down in L.A., what, off the big piers, people will fish.
Oh, yeah.
Surfing and ice fishing.
Well, you got to watch for surfing, though, because look at this guy here.
He got hooked, it looks like.
Fucking screen out!
Put the screen out.
Fucking moron.
Caught me a big one.
And you know what?
he's like, yeah, I'm done for the day.
I guess it's.
I might pack it up a little early today.
I hope he was barbless there.
I'm going to be son of a gun if he hooked him with a parved hook.
I feel like I'd have stronger words.
You know what I mean?
I feel like I'd have a stronger response to being hooked by a fisherman.
The surfers are pretty chill though, right?
You know that.
I'm curious, though, what's a surfer doing that?
I am like truly.
If you were to talk, what's the protocol?
A break.
Because he's not the only dude fishing.
Catch a wave.
You're sitting on top of the world.
He's just driving the surf all on the waves.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, who of us was on the cover of Surf Magazine if I want to jog your memory?
You don't need to talk to me on.
It was you, Dean.
It was you.
What year was it again?
Surf magazine.
Which is why I wonder.
I just,
that doesn't seem like a traditional spot to be, you know.
Those guys are small wave surfers.
Those guys are small wave surfers.
They got little skimboards.
You were a big wave surfer.
You were out of deeps.
Yeah, you're not hanging 10 right there.
That seems silly.
He doesn't seem like much of a surfer to me.
We knew you're on the surfing magazine.
You ever get into scooters or, you know, on the scooter in the skate park?
They can flip them around and do all kinds of.
Well, it's, it depends.
What are we talking about?
Scooters or because it's kind of the same skill, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Probably toes facing north, not east west.
Anyway, this is a dad picked up late.
You got to pick it up as a kid.
Otherwise, your balance is off.
And do put a helmet on.
That would be a good idea, too, I think.
Oh.
Oh.
Oh, dear.
The fact is feeling.
Oh.
Oh, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that is cracking skull right there.
Yeah, that's, that's tough.
Yeah, that's not hanging 10.
That's, um.
That's going to make the top 10 on C-T-E-SPN.
Yeah.
Jack can't get enough of the C-T-E-SpN.
T-E-S-B-N jokes.
Oh, man.
Can you imagine the sound that that would have made?
Oh.
His skull cracking that pavement.
Bar-shad.
It would be similar to like when Vladia assaults a baseball,
just that thwack.
You're like, oh.
Oh, damage.
And you know he's concussed when he starts, like,
rubbing his head with his forearm.
Uh-oh.
Oh, you're...
Not good.
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Nice hot day.
You probably want a really nice glass of freshly squeezed juice, don't you, Dean?
I love freshly squeezed juice.
You find this stuff.
Oh, dear.
Yeah, tough day of work.
Get those sweet back.
Get.
Gonna wash them first,
kind of sanitize those dogs.
No, all right.
Just get it right in there, I guess.
What are we looking at mangoes?
Or what have we got going in there?
That looks like a mango.
Favorite fruit.
Is it?
And look at the larvae.
That must be the best stuff in town.
All right, enough.
I'm a Jack.
No kidding enough.
And these little janky
roadside carnival rides,
don't do them, guys.
Don't do them.
Just don't, okay?
How many warning?
How many PIN reports do we have to show you?
This is stressful news.
It sounds like it's in good working order.
There's some sort of a motor in there.
that you have to wind it up and then it's going on.
Oh, okay.
It was all right.
Oh, good one.
Oh, look that big spinner there.
No one's having a laugh team.
It's nice.
Okay.
It's good times.
Oh, yeah.
Uh-oh.
I'm really speeding up now.
Okay.
At least the carney's paying attention.
Guys.
A break.
Oh.
Oh no.
Oh, no, no, no.
It looks stable.
I will give them that.
Yeah, it's anchored well.
Yes.
Yeah, the only thing that didn't happen that I thought was going to is they didn't fly out.
Yeah, they didn't fly out and it didn't come unhinged or something.
It was stressful because I was waiting for that, but it just never happened.
I was also waiting for him for a dude to kind of walk in front of it to.
slow it down or something.
I'll chance you.
Yeah, that would have worked well too.
Now, if you're not feeling well, maybe it's
in the winter, our immune systems
get run down, right?
It was less vitamin D.
Vitamin D.
Yeah, D is a big one.
And so what would you instruct someone
if they weren't feeling well?
It was a meal that they would enjoy, Dean.
Did maybe feel better?
Chicken noodle soup.
Chicken soup?
Absolutely.
Look at me.
The elegance.
not looking at that.
There's just,
no, it's double.
It's a double order. Look.
No, I'm not.
It's off the screen.
It's off.
No, it's not.
Put it back up in, Jack.
No.
Jack.
Okay, now we're ready.
And welcome back, Dean.
One more.
Don't, don't, don't, don't do it.
Chicken soup.
Finally, we have a crackhead against a crocodile.
Louisiana, baby.
Let's go.
Get that.
Look at this.
Staring comp.
Oh,
ow.
That's your leg.
Ow, no, no, no.
Dude, let go.
What are you doing?
Don't pick a fight with a crocodile.
The freaking dinosaur.
Yeah, he's listening.
He's talking trash right there.
But the crock doesn't seem intimidated.
And now remember the shark where the guy lost his pinky?
My damn pinky.
Yeah.
It's similar with the crock.
As soon as they get you, it's just instinct.
to just twist and spin and shake and really mess up.
Yeah.
No messing around.
Anyway, enjoy your soup today, Dean,
and that is your pinned to report on this fine Wednesday.
Yeah, preach.
Thanks for that.
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Thanks for all of that, Ryan.
You're very welcome.
I'll be back to more.
All of that was very necessary and appreciated.
Well, I was going to use the chicken soup yesterday, but I knew that.
You're back to me.
I'm a big soup guy.
Yeah.
Thanks for that.
I appreciate that for sure.
By the light of the silvery moon.
So I didn't realize, I guess when I got looking at it, I didn't realize that the Bruins
played tonight.
So back-to-back games for the Bruins,
they hit. Well, yeah, we talked about
Oilers Bruins, right? Yeah, yeah.
But I like your logic.
Checks out. Sure.
Yeah, it does check out.
So they must be getting, the flames will get the bad
Bruins goalie, right? Sure, yeah.
Wrong.
Both of them with
their nine, whatever, say
percentages and 2.1,
whatever.
So there's a lot of teams that can't find a goal.
There's hogging two.
Right. They are.
hogging.
They're hogging for sure.
Swayman's an RFA this summer, so we'll see what happens there.
But they got two good goleys.
They got two good goals.
I was looking at it, actually.
Were you?
Blow noodles doors off with trade stuff because we've done it every goddamn week forever.
We got more left.
But there's been this thought, like, when do you trade Markstrom?
If you're going to trade Markstrom, because those that don't want to trade them, that's fine.
But if you're making your mind up that, okay, this is, this is a good.
guy you could really help stock cupboards by moving. The deadline's one pressure point. And if
you're a team that needs goaltending that thinks you're a cup contender, if you upgrade goaltending,
but wow, what a good time to sell goalies. This is a unique spot. The Flames are. And the other
is that free agency is absolutely garbage for goalies this year. Like, I think it's 36-year-old
Camtel, but 39-year-old Mark Andre Fleury are the top two goalies in terms of appearances this year
that are free agents. It is who's who of platoon backups and number twos.
Markstrom this summer might be a really, really sneaky, valuable time to move them.
Yeah. I mean, it's such a weird. I feel like the Y-Trade Markstrom will almost kind of start
to seat back in by the summertime. You'll start, well, you've got this player. You've got this.
I don't know what's the offer going to be? That's the thing.
that's what it comes down to.
Well, should you trade Markstrom?
Well, you should if the offer's any good.
And if it's nothing but shit offers, then no, you don't trade him.
You can use the macro and the age and how good wolf is going to be or whatever.
That's all well and good.
But if there's no offers that are even close, then we're going to be keeping him is what it ends up being.
And it's not a, well, what's this philosophy?
Why would the flames keep him?
The offers are shit.
That's why.
It's not like the jersey offer was substantial.
We didn't get great authority on what it was,
but it sounded like that was not going to be insignificant.
And I think that's kind of where Connie's at.
Like give me a legit offer or we're not moving them.
They just need, you know, New Jersey?
He's a good, he's a good goalie.
See it again last night.
Just pay a shot and allowed what, five or six?
Oh, Nico does.
What about Carolina?
Are they going to do it?
They just got Freddie Anderson skating again.
So who knows?
They got that three-headed monster,
Ranta Anderson, Kachekek.
The thing is that
Do you feel
If you are the Keynes, do you feel like you can rely on Freddie Anderson
Going into a playoffs?
And I don't mean his performance.
I just mean his durability.
Ever.
He just never,
ever seems to be healthy for them when they need them.
Ranta feels like a backup.
Kachekhov is flashed at times and looked like,
ooh, this is their future number one.
And then he struggled for half year this year.
Really, probably the only real dip he's had in the NHL was the first half of this season.
So, yeah, I don't know.
LA, all three guys are up at the end of the year.
Riddick, Coplay, and Talbot.
Do they look to lock in to a number one for the next two, three years?
Yeah, Freddie Anderson.
That's what Markstrom would be.
34 games.
And even, I was going to, two, last year in 34, 33 starts, a 903 and a 248.
He's, he's okay.
Frederick Anderson.
Yeah, no, he's fine.
It's just, he's never healthy when you need him to be healthy.
You nailed it.
I think you got hurt in the playoffs last year.
Yeah.
Somebody should just pay.
Yeah.
Just pay.
L.A., Toronto, Jersey, Carolina.
One of you guys, get her going here.
What do you think the mood's like around the team right now, Retro, where you're now this, obviously every day, I don't know if you knew this, you're getting closer to the trade deadline.
That's all right.
But now you have Tannaf, who I am sure everybody loves Chris Tenev.
He probably hasn't said a word.
It's just what kind of the way I'm.
I see it as he would not have said a word about trades or anything.
He's not going to talk about it.
He's there to play.
Haniffin has essentially given his answer that he's not staying.
So in a way, that's kind of a statement without saying anything.
So, and then you've got the goalie who's somewhere in limbo.
It's just got to be Weirdsville in that locker room.
I would think for a rookie coach, this is very difficult.
I think he's doing a good job with it.
I don't know what his philosophy is or his approach to it is,
but you're going to have a mixed bag of emotion in that room,
a mixed bag of focus,
and how is he keeping them together and moving in the right direction?
It's not been perfect,
obviously,
with some of the losses,
but we forget about that, right?
You ask about the room and what are the players going through
and this and that.
Huska's,
you know,
he's been around the game and he's been around coaching,
so he's got some tendencies.
But this is a rookie coach in the NHO.
How's he handling it and doing such a good job, in my opinion, anyway?
Yeah.
And it's been really streaky, right?
So it's like they win four, they lose four, they win four, they lose three, they've won one.
How you feel about how that room is probably changes week to week.
But we're all in agreement on is that everyone knows it's coming.
Like everyone knows they're carrying 8D for a reason.
So they don't have to put these guys on waivers that are going to be their third pair in two weeks.
Yeah.
And I think that it's almost, in a way, because they all know what's coming, it's not a,
if I'm Hannepin, I said it the other day, I said, this guy knows exactly what he's doing.
Like, we were all well, maybe he's going to sign, maybe, no, no, no, he's playing with mental clarity.
He knows exactly.
He's not sitting around stressed out about, you know, and I think probably if it gets a day or two before trade deadline for a guy like Tanna, or Markstrom,
or if they haven't been moved, then there will be some stress because it's,
kind of a pinch point.
But right now you can think it's far enough out that,
the other thing for these older guys,
they're going to get talked to if there's
about traits, right?
Maybe not so much TANF,
but I think probably there's enough respect
that you'd want to keep them abreast of what's going on.
Obviously, Markstrom has some saying what's going on,
but Hanifan has saying what's going on.
So I would, they would be known,
or they would know what's going on to a certain extent.
I would think.
If it's not from Conroy, it's their agents.
This is one of the few times where the agents play in,
and it actually can do a lot of work.
Yesterday, I don't know if you saw it with Frank Dino,
but his,
I guess the news of the day on Hanofin was that Tampa is a preferred destination.
And how that news gets out there and how someone like Frank finds it,
there's lots of theories,
but most of the time it's the representation of the player.
that makes it clear where they want them to go.
Whether there's interest from Tampa or back remains to be seen.
They do need a left shot defenseman.
Surgichov's done for a while.
I wonder about, you know, that adds pressure to Connie.
It doesn't mean he can't do well,
but it makes things a little more complex.
I don't know what you made of that yesterday.
You know what it is?
I said this before.
I would have a hard time as a GM.
I would love to, I think it would be fascinating
and all have the conversations and to work it and all that sort of thing.
I'd have a hard time keeping personal emotions out of it after a certain point.
When I've offered a guy $60 million, he's like, yeah, that sounds great.
And then he says, actually, you know what?
No, I don't.
And then the season goes along and he's playing well and you come back.
Now you don't want to be a part of it.
I don't give a fuck where your preferred destination is.
That's how I would feel as someone who's proud of the franchise, who's proud of the jersey.
I understand you have an 8, 10, 12 team, whatever.
you're going to goddamn well go where I trade you because you don't want to be here.
So now my loyalty is not to you or to your agent.
It's to the guys in the room and to this team.
I would just have a really hard time.
Yeah.
Not voicing and being pissed off with that stuff.
The only other layer to it is if you get them signed an extension and trade them,
which we used to laugh about because it never happened,
but we've seen a few now in the last few years.
Do you get more?
Yeah, you do.
So you can't ignore that, hey, Tampa, do you live?
like this guy, we can go eight times eight with them and you can sort out the money or,
you know, because you're, you're tax friendly there. Let's call it eight times seven instead of seven
and a half and you don't pay tax in Florida. You still might be a, coming out ahead.
I'd be tossing the keys to the agent and BreezeBois. You guys figure some, you figure some shit out.
Whatever you want, you let me know if you get something done and then I'll let you know how I
feel about it. Yeah, here's the package I need. And if you agree to that, you can, if you agree to that,
talk to his agent.
But it does make it tougher for Connie because if word is out that
Hanifan's thinking of only going to Tampa Bay,
and again,
that's a broad statement to make.
But if you're another team,
and I'll just say Toronto just because,
but if you're a team like Toronto,
and you're going, well,
we want to resign them because he wants to go to Tampa Bay,
we can't give you what you want.
Yeah.
I also think that this is kind of a bit of a leverage play from the agent.
and don't tell me he's going to go to the Golden Knights
and not enjoy it there, to Dallas, if they go on a run.
Oh, no, I'm still going.
Like, you go to one of these places and you are winning culture.
Like, I think there's lots of places no habit to resign.
Sure, you can have a favorite, but go dump them in a playoff run on a team that wins a few rounds.
I think the likelihood I'm resigning there's huge.
I still, and I'm allowed to because I'm not the gym, but that's where the, you're right,
maybe it is a pinch, but that's a dick move by the agent.
If it is the agent, and I agree.
Right.
Like if you're, if you're, if you're really getting that out there,
screw you.
Like, what are the flames done that you need to take full advantage of them and put them
in a shittier spot than they already are?
Like, they offer you 60 million.
All we've done is pay you your salary in full for whatever it is, five years.
And offered you 60 and you turned it down and put you in a spot to play well and have a
career year going into
potential. That's all we've done.
Running on Power Boy 1.
Yeah. And you've played well for us
and we appreciate that. But
this is not us
not holding up our end of the bargain.
And you can do all that privately, Dean, right? That's the
little point. Like if it's Tampa,
go talk to Connie and Breezeball. Don't make it
public. And I, yeah, because I don't need
you to get the message out that
Hanifin's available.
Right. The league knows that Hanifin's available.
He's an unrestricted free agent who turned down
60 million. He's available. I don't need you to trumpet the news to other other general managers.
So yeah, it would be hard not to let it be personal. Like I said earlier when I brought it up to
you, read about what the room's like. Just seeing there's photos from the poker tournament yesterday.
And there's Hanif and arm and arm with Weeger and some of these other guys. It's like,
yeah, okay, I'll take the picture. I'd be sour with I just would. If I, if I, if I'm, if I'm
an all-in guy and I'm a competitor and I care about my team and what we're doing,
you may as well be playing for somebody else right now because you're not here for you're,
you're not part of what we're doing.
I said it yesterday to Pinder.
I said, I would have a hard time as GM because when I start to hear all that, I'd get sick
of it and say, get to hell out of it.
I'll just give me something.
You're out.
Get emotional about it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other thing is like, it's pretty common.
Well, this isn't the original six.
The guys move a ton.
It's, it's, it's, it might be a bit cumbersome, but.
Tannafin wasn't the headache that Zadorov was.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
And Tannave are not, Elias Lindholm having a bad year,
clearly not happy where he was.
These guys have been going up and putting in the work.
And everyone knows something's going to happen,
but be a good soldier until then.
You've earned your right to go to free agency.
And Connie certainly has the right to trade you before you turn into a pumpkin.
they haven't asked for trades right they just have they've got their right to exercise free agency
this summer it's it's what right now and i know when we talked about in the offseat and just
felt like if this is conroy's job conroy's ready he spent nine years or whatever is an aGM he's
been scouting and all of that this is another reason why i think craig is well equipped to do this
job because he's a competitor but he's he won't be overly emotional he'll be able to take
the bad with the good don't make decisions
when you're overly high or overly low,
you know, all that sort of thing.
I just think he's going to be able to be even keeled.
And if he is,
if he does feel disrespected or he's upset about it,
he's not going to let that factor into what he's doing.
He just,
I feel like I have a lot of confidence
in what he's going to be able to pull off here
based on what we've seen.
It's not been a year yet.
But I don't think there's going to be that emotional,
just get the hell out of here kind of a thing.
And the best part is is they need help,
skill-wise, and they have two to three guys who would be at the top of the market.
So you do have a really good opportunity with, I think you've got a good young GM with his head on straight with a good,
a good scope on what the talent level will be coming in.
And you've got some big names top of the market to get done.
And Pinder said it before you got on there, retro, that it does feel like the market,
they're waiting for Craig.
Well, as soon as Conroy does what he does with.
Tanef and a Tenev, then the market's going to kind of be set,
and then we're doing.
I don't know if I've ever experienced it quite like this.
There's been tradable assets, but not top of the market.
Now even Lindholm is gone.
Well, and think about Lindholm, what happened the next day?
Yeah, the Monaghan deal gets done.
And so teams that would have been interested in Monag would have been interested in Lindholm,
only one Lindholm out there.
So once we don't get Lindholm, okay, now we pivot to plan B,
okay, it's 80% of what Lindholm got.
There's your deal for Monaghan.
that's what he's got on the D side.
There's no one more attractive on the blue line than on the left side, Noah
Hanifin and on the right side, Chris Tanna.
If he controls the market.
Yeah.
Well, that's, it's not where you want to be, but if you got to be here,
you may as well have some real good things to sell and hopefully, hopefully, you know,
whatever the, it's a tram today.
Let's go.
Come on.
When would you sit, guys?
I was looking at it.
There is one, two, three, four, five, six games until the deadline.
They play basically Thursday, Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday.
That's the next two weeks.
They wrap a homestand with Seattle.
They play one game in Tampa as part of that southeast swing before the deadline hits.
Like, what would you do, Rhett?
Is Tanna have already sitting?
Is it the last two or three?
I hate sitting guys.
That's part of my problem.
I get it and I know how you want to do it.
And I don't think with Hanna, or Tanna, or Maristram, or whoever it is,
is that it's, if people don't know what they are and they need another viewing,
then they should just not be involved in the sweepstakes.
So you know what they are.
So on one hand, it's like, sit them now.
Yeah, yeah.
Imagine if, like, the knock on wood scenario, like,
you've got a considerable pile assets for either of these guys,
a bigger one for Hanifin for sure.
But to watch one of those things turn to zero would be a nightmare.
Like, what is it really worth here?
That could, I mean, you're talking about pause.
franchise changing stuff.
It really, honestly.
Yeah.
It is.
I was trying to think of an analogy.
It's like having something very extremely valuable in your,
in your regular life and just leaving it in the backyard and it might rain.
Can't do it.
That's that's potentially, it's a big part of our life there.
I'm with you.
He's, they're definitely not going on the trip to Florida because you don't,
you're not playing it.
I'm not playing in that Tampa game.
You may as well.
One game.
Yeah.
Sit by your phone.
Sit by, but go to the airport.
How about that? Go to O'Hare. You can get a drag flight everywhere.
Just grab a room at the Radisson at the airport or wherever the hell it is and stay there.
But I'm with you. I said it last week. If you need to see more games to know what Chris Tanev's all about, then you're in the wrong business.
Yeah. You know what Chris Tanev is. And the fewer games he plays is not only the less chances for him to get hurt, it's more opportunity for him to work on whatever bumps and bruises he's already got.
Which is a bunch. He always does.
So I've, 10,
has a different risk profile
than most.
Like,
Haniffin's been incredibly durable
this time here.
Like,
I'm going to go look.
I doubt he's missed 10 games in five years.
It'd be crazy how durable he's been.
But Tannab's gone down the tunnel
six to 10 times this year.
Like,
oh!
Can't risk it.
If you're smart,
you'd sit him now.
I'm with you.
I'm kind of with you.
You've got Schillington back,
which makes,
things easier because remember for a long time we talked about it.
Schillington wasn't in the equation.
You traded Zedorov and got nothing back.
So how many minutes can Weger and Anderson play and and and Hanofin to a certain point.
But Hanofen less less so, I think.
But I'd, I'd just be saying to Chris.
This is it's the, it's the best thing for the franchise.
I know you always want to play.
We love you.
You've been a great soldier.
But we're all adults.
We're all pros.
we know what's happening here.
And I would guess that while Craig holds out for more,
there's probably a deal that's been offered
that you'd be satisfied with to a certain,
do you know what I mean?
There's probably a second and that's been offered.
And you're going to try and squeeze for a first or something a little bit better.
But worst case,
you've probably got something on your desk that you'd sign off on.
Yeah.
I think because of there's 10 to 12 teams in there,
whatever it is,
that you're hoping one is going to feel the heat of being like,
okay, if I miss on this guy, what's my next best option?
Like, oh, yeah.
All right.
It's a late first anyway.
Here.
That's what they want.
But yeah, and Hanopin, it's first year here, 80 out of 82.
The next year he played 70.
I don't know if it was 71 or 72.
They played that year.
That was the COVID shutdown.
The next year was 48 games or 56.
He played 47.
81.
Like, he's durable as hell.
I don't worry about that asset.
Tanna's a very different beast.
Yeah.
It feels almost.
that you're fortunate to have gotten this far in this season.
Yeah.
What are they in?
50 some odd games or 60,
that he's,
and playing the amount he's playing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well,
so I feel.
A lot of play against the Bruins and,
showcase him against the Oilers?
Where do you go?
Because again,
the Oilers haven't seen him.
They don't know what kind of player he is, right, Dean?
Yeah.
How are you supposed to know?
Yeah.
I,
I,
it's a couple,
weeks what do you want to do chakos where do you want to go actually it's too far in case we
traded then they're going to watch it uh get have us have a couple spa days his and her massages
we'll get you set up at uh teams at home you got to stay in shape you go more things gate you go to
practices come down we got some popcorn some nachos yeah put the salsa right in the cheese
get your own little sweet up there yeah get your get your mullet get the get it all ready
still come still watch you around you're a
positive presence for the team.
Pack your bag, get those fake teeth in that little zip lock
in your shaving bag. Let's go.
That's right. We got it figured out.
We know.
And a 10 of a righte.
I would, don't be surprised if you see
Weeger slide to his natural right side for the first,
he doesn't have done it often in Calgary.
Anderson and Weiger would be your top two righties.
And maybe you get a Shillington Anderson combo?
Would you trade him to Edmonton?
I know.
Who?
Not for the same prices elsewhere.
Chris Tanov.
I've traded.
I don't care of all that stuff.
Yes.
No.
You wouldn't do it?
For more.
It has to be more than everyone else is offering.
It's not the same price for Edmonton.
That would be my policy.
Okay.
For the 30 teams in the NHL,
there's one price for the Oilers.
It's that plus.
And you know how that rivalry resonates in the building
with ownership management high ups.
I think the price is different.
I really do.
Yeah, I do too.
It's kind of a piece they're missing.
Like they're not missing much there.
That's one of the pieces they're missing.
If you can get Cody Sisi on your third pair,
you're much better.
Darnal Nurse is going to look better with Chris Tannav.
Eckholm and Bouchard,
Darnel Nurse with Chris Tannov on the right side.
Now you've got a top four.
It's pretty good.
That feels like a D that you can be a first.
Go to battle with.
And they've got a first.
I think Robert too.
I don't know.
It probably doesn't matter because it's so stupid.
But what's TANF?
If I've got three teams that are offering pretty much the same thing,
if I'm Conrad, I'm going to, where are you going to go?
Yeah, if it's Evie Stevie.
Because it does give you some guys talk, right?
If you're treated right, guys will remember that spread that word.
Yeah, you're right.
there's value to that for sure i just i don't know how much you're not going to say i'm sure yeah yeah
yeah go yeah go go let's go let's go come on that's the other thing too i don't want i want
draft picks are great don't need all picks no both well both don't need five first
have you got a young kid that looks good is there somebody in the system that uh maybe he was a
first rounder two years ago that's close to coming through now we're getting picky
Curtis looked like Curtis Cesar.
No, not like him.
You want someone that scored more than two goals in the league.
Still playing.
Still playing.
He is.
Yeah, he's a fourth liner.
A good one to be fair.
Just don't move second rounders or fourth liners.
You get them on waivers like AJ Greer.
That's what you do.
Like Jersey.
I was looking this morning.
I know we've talked about it.
Just when we got into the Florida conversation with how good they have been.
The Carter Verhegey story is amazing.
drafted in the third round in 2013 by Toronto.
Toronto.
Is that the Mason Marchman deal?
A Toronto draft pick.
No.
He then hangs out with the Leafs for,
no,
doesn't play,
doesn't play with them.
He's playing for the North,
and the thing is,
he's Ontario guys from Toronto.
So they draft him in round three.
From there,
they trade him in a package for Michael Grabner.
A couple years later, which the Leaves did not win the cup that year.
Is that right?
That was a non-cup year for Toronto.
So he's an islander.
A couple years later, he's traded to Tampa Bay for Krister's Goodlevskis.
Oh, the Latvian goalie that gave Canada a tough time at the Olympics many moons ago.
So he drafted in 2013, traded summer of 2017.
So we're, I'm guessing.
this feels like he's not really a prospect at this point.
He's maybe he's an HL guy.
Maybe you can call him up, fourth line, whatever.
Islander's trained in Tampa Bay.
With Tampa Bay, he gets into 52 games.
His first N.H taste in the NHL as a 24-year-old,
he gets nine goals and 13 points in 52 games.
Okay.
Right.
Whatever.
Very nice.
We're just going to let him go.
He's, and I think he was an RFA that wasn't qualified, whatever, but he's still.
He's there at that point for the Tampa.
Yeah.
So Florida, but even still, right, he's, he's, I don't even, where, where is he playing for
the Tampa Bay Lightning in 1920?
Who's he playing four?
It's nine goals on the season.
Decent, but you're not clamoring for this guy.
Signs with Florida.
Dale Tallon gives him a two year deal at a million bucks a season.
It's like you're, it's like the Rooney deal.
Right?
Didn't Rooney get two times a million?
1.3 for Roondog.
As a guy who had middling numbers.
First year in Florida,
43 games, 18 goals.
The next year,
24 goals, then 42 goals.
Last year,
in 81 games, and so far this year,
30 goals and 56 games.
And we talked about his overtime goals
and game winning goals and all of this.
Oh, yeah.
Right? Remember, he was just
in playoffs.
He's been sensation.
He's been unbelievable in the playoffs.
You can kind of see his numbers there.
How do you feel like this needle in a haystack stuff?
Well, Marcia's so similar.
They were both guys that Tampa had in their org at one point and didn't have room for.
But like it's those are the organizations that are good fellas.
They can find something off the scrap heap and turns into a player.
Like that imagine the flames found one of those guys.
How elated you'd be that almost like a Giordano story, right?
They don't happen often.
but if you don't have to spend a high pick or trade valuable things to get a player,
God, that's, that's immensely valuable to the right?
Because it's really, it's, I don't know that Rooney's a great comparable,
but a guy that's in his early mid-20s and just bounces from team to team to team,
had nine goals in his first NHL season,
how about 42 in a couple years?
Okay.
That'd be all right.
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Yeah, you're not in Cincinnati, for sure.
The skyline's overrated if that is Cincinnati.
Oh, clear day.
The skyline is a bluebird.
It's a real beauty clerk.
Yeah.
She's a beauty clerk.
You know what?
That looks kind of like your,
you're back home and Sask?
Passing by some wide open spaces.
Not certain parts of the Saskatchewan,
not where I was from way too many trees,
even though most people would consider this sparse.
This is like the forest compared to where I grew up.
You're in the mountains.
You're in the mountains and the forest where you are compared to Davidson.
Is that what you call you?
Davidson, is that kind of where you're from?
Or what do you like to say?
No, it's nowhere even close.
Davidson is just south
east of Saskatoon.
I am absolutely
as far as you can go
south and west.
How long do you work to threat there, Dean?
To not know where in Saskatchewan.
Well, it changes.
He's from Seanovan and he's not from
Seanovan because the hospitals in Sean.
My uncle, my uncle put up a sign, but then they took it down.
Is the sign back up?
Seanovan Badgers.
Badgers.
I don't know.
I haven't been in a while.
Nobody's died lately.
Oh, rat.
It's a good thing.
That's not a negative.
That's a good thing.
Only time you go back to Saskatchezons when someone dies?
Oh, I guess your buddy's number is getting retired.
That's another reason.
Not to Saskatchewa to frontier because it's hard to find a place to sleep even nowadays.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Don't you go dying on me now?
Why don't you say it like?
Let's take a look at our Betway
Betway app. Get it on your phone.
Get it on your desk. You top, your laptop,
get it on your tablet, play along.
We got five games tonight.
You got that big one in the Boston Bruins
are in Edmonton to play the mighty Oilers.
The Oilers are, they're a force to be reckoned with.
But Boston, a lot of people would have said,
hey, maybe odds on favorites to win it all this year
should be a good one. A litmus test,
Red, perhaps.
A litmus test. Maybe for both teams.
Oh, double litmus test.
Even for both teams.
Let's take a look at the,
the Bedway Betts.
The Boston Bruins.
You like that?
I'm taking the Bruins money line.
Plus 120.
Plus 120 for the Bruin.
They 6.0 and 3 in their last nine games on the road,
including wins in three straight on the road.
It's tidy, dude.
Tidy.
And you can't go the other way.
So what are you going to do?
Toronto at Arizona.
How about some Bobby McMahon anytime goal plus 325?
Wayne Wright, Alberta's very own Bobby McMahon, the 27-year-old.
Bobby McMahon is playing on the second line with Tavaris and Nylander.
Six goals in his last four games.
Let's go, Bobby.
Oh, Peter.
Heater.
Deer.
Deer.
Man, what a handle.
There you go.
Those are my Betway bets of the day.
I'm just looking it up.
The former Bonneville Pontiac, Dean.
Sure he is.
Lloyd, Mr. Bobcat.
Let's go.
University, whatever,
polates us.
Some of that propane, Bobby.
Bobby?
Look at this.
I'm all on Austin Matthews, AM 34
returns to the desert.
Oh, wow.
Not to creep out parking attendant security,
but this time to score goals.
Maybe the first one,
plus 550, maybe two plus plus 400.
If you missed it,
the Arizona coyotes,
they're on the opposite of a heater,
Rhett.
Call that a cooler?
Or they're on the shitter.
William H. Grace is a great moving.
A row.
10 in a row.
Loss, loss,
lost,
Awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome, awesome.
Awesome Matthew scores again.
Let's go, make some money that way.
Yeah.
What was the part?
That's small rink for Austin.
Seems to be good at that scoring stuff.
Yeah.
75 is the pace.
Six ever have scored 75 in a single season.
Six ever.
It is a tidy list.
You got your Lemia?
You got your Gratzky.
Yeah.
You got your rookie Timo.
Do you know that would have been close to your heart?
Yeah.
Seventy-six.
McGillney, 76, Esposito had 76, and Brett Hall had 86.
That's more than 76.
God, did he have a season?
Yeah, that's not bad.
Join that club, Austin.
So is he going to get, how's the chase for 50 and 50?
He's played more than 50 games.
Now that he's got 49 and 53.
Did that happen?
Right.
He needed like five in the third period sometime a week ago.
He didn't get him.
Because remember there was going to be the big watch.
He never had close enough.
Didn't really hear anything about it.
I mean, he was, I think he was at 45 goals in game 50.
Yeah.
Sorry.
So not.
Yep.
Your internet is fucking, what I would say for sure.
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It is Toronto and Arizona.
Matthew's back in the desert and also the Bruins and the Oilers in the Cultural Capital, the White Mud, dress pants, sweatpants.
You know the drill.
It is the Cade Stone hosting the Bruins and the Oilers.
Both start at 8.
It's a multi-screen adventure tonight.
What are you ordering, Rhett?
I'm going to go with
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can start
and then I want
lamb kebabs with
Suzuki.
I like a good kebaba Suzuki.
What are those
and then the bread thing
what is that?
Cheetos?
Like a pita but thicker.
Not Nan.
Yeah, like a Nan bread,
but Nan's Indian, that's not it.
Yeah, it's not Nan.
Anyway, something like that.
You love it.
Do it.
Pita.
Garnash.
Pita, Nan, Banach.
Not Banach.
It's all kind of bread products, right?
All the same vein, yeah.
It's all kind of similar but different.
Maybe some Appenders chicken soup as Daryl is throwing out there.
No, that's not happening.
Nation 25 is the promo code.
Fire it in.
You'll get that 25% off deal on your first order of 50%
dollars more with door dash uh reminder coming up on saturday we're going to be at greta
join us greta game day flames nation the battle of alberta doors open at seven now yes tickets are
available because we're raising money we're doing it's we're doing something nice for once
i like it's like anyway um raising money for closer to home the community service is part of closer
to home. Good food, good prizes, good cause.
So it's 10 bucks. Get your tickets at
Nationgear.com. You can see there. Free shop
for Calgary's first goal. Should there be one? Free swag,
prizes, food and Bev,
specials and more. We're going to be there and it's a
presentation of our buddies over at McLeod Law,
our events partner,
and Anthony and the good folks at Village
Honda also on the way for this one as well.
So get your tickets and we'll see you at Greta on
Saturday.
Maybe we'll be talking about big trades by then.
Oh, yes, right.
Yeah.
And I believe they're,
an old friend might be joining us,
might be in attendance.
Old friend.
Not so much a friend of yours or anyone else.
I'm not sure how many friends he has.
I guess I'm kind of one.
It's debatable, I suppose.
But lots of reasons,
that's just one of many to be at Greta on Saturday.
Again, if you're at your house,
it's not rat.
No.
Red is not the, no,
Rhett will not be a Greta on Saturday.
I'll be in Pittsburgh.
Of course.
The thing about...
The thing about...
The thing about being at home for this game
is that if it gets lopsided,
what you're going to do?
Think about being a Greta for this game.
If it gets lopsided,
World's your oyster, Dino.
Asteroids.
Wackamol.
Something. Golden tea.
Buck hunter.
Street fighter.
Mortal combat.
Golden Axe.
Mario Kart.
Poem.
Tomorrow on the program.
Ask Rhett.
Presentation of Bontan meets.
Get your questions in.
Ask Red at Flamesnation.ca.
Love, what do you need?
I mean, as Valentine's Day is over, thank you.
But as the dark, cold winter turns into,
you feel the warmth of spring.
Maybe you have some greenhouse questions.
Big greenhouse connoisseur.
Retro?
Do you have a greenhouse set up in Buffalo?
You got to get the, no.
Look, the law enforcement's a little tighter around greenhouses in New York State.
Is it?
Right.
Got some chickens running around.
Rob Ray still have chickens in the backyard.
Is weed legal there?
Looks like he's got rid of most of it.
Lead Weagle?
Leeds Weagle.
I think it's not quite, it's gray area.
So it's not weagle then.
Yeah, it's not weagle for sure.
It doesn't feel like it's weird.
But it's not illegal, it's not illegal, but it's not a weagle.
It's not a weagle, no, weagle.
I don't think so.
Don't.
What if you have lead on your person?
Can you get in trouble?
It's great.
I think you'd have to have a lot.
I think you'd have to have a lot more than you can just use yourself.
Like an 80 liter backpack full of it.
That's too much lead.
Yeah.
That's more than one person.
That's not, that's distribution.
That's not consumption.
This is on here, this is not Weigel.
That's not Weigel, man.
You're going to need to go for right.
This is on the not Weigel side.
Yeah, yeah.
All right, buddies, I'll do it.
Tomorrow's game day, helmets on, ask rent and more.
We'll see you have yourself a fine.
I appreciate you.
Praise.
Drive safe.
Drive safe.
