Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Kirill Kaprizov Says NO To $128M Deal 👀 | BB Clips

Episode Date: September 10, 2025

Barn Burner Clips Youtube Link 🎥 https://youtu.be/ssJgrPjMzzMBoomer, Rhett & Pinder react to the massive news out of Minnesota — superstar Kirill Kaprizov has reportedly turned down an 8-year, $128M extension offer from the Wild. The deal would have made him the highest-paid player in NHL history in both total value and average annual salary ($16M AAV).The guys break down what this means for Kaprizov, the Wild, and how it could shake up the entire NHL landscape moving forward.#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #nhlhockey CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER BLONDE https://originbrewing.myshopify.comFLAMESNATION MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Connor McDavid is not the only notable free agent of next summer. Carrel Caprizov is another Jack Eichel, Adrian Kempe, amongst a huge list of guys. And with this cap skyrocketing, it's like agents are not really hustling to lock into eight-year deals at the money everyone's used to. So Carrel Caprizov apparently turned down what would have been the richest deal in NHL history of $128 million over eight years. That's an AV of $16 million. which I, this does not surprise me one bit. The wild without Caprizov or what? The wild with Caprizov or what?

They just freed up all their suitor and Perise, a bio punishment. And I won't be surprised at all if he's by a few million dollars, the highest paid player in a league if he signs before the Kempai, I called McDavid's the world. I've said this a few times over the years. Like just the, and it's not,

but if in a very literal in your brain, if someone slides a paper across the table, table to me that is going to pay me $128 million. Yeah. The balls, I would need to have to push it back across and say, now I'm good. A little more. Yeah.

Well, we talked about it. Again, off air conversation. You love playing hard ball. Yeah, I'm maybe not the best negotiator. Hmm. Well, I want this. No. All right.

Well, I tried. Take some notes from Carrell. Well, okay, just give me the contract you offered. actually we can't even offer that one Now what is it Well that's a lot less I better take it before it gets worse Is there a chance it'll get even lower

Really? It's got a pen Damn it 16 million AAB What's amazing to me is when you used to compare hockey to And I still, it's still low But usually here are 100 plus millions now That's your

That's big big It's a good time to be super star Yeah I think Wayne famously made 46 on the button because I think when Frank Naser signed, he had like 46.1. He made more after playing like 28 games in the league. And like we've talked about. So assume, yeah, the cap keeps going up.

Yeah. What is 16, how much higher are you going to get than 16? Max contract for it. Because again, it's next season that they're signing for. So if you were a max salary player, which you've never seen in the history of the cap, that's 20%. And so at 104 million, that's, that's like 20.5 a year. If Connor wants that,

everyone will make room for him to get that. The question is where does Carill fall in? And if you look at the way the Wilder position, they're young, they've locked up some of their guys on deals already to good contracts. And for him, superstar, if not the Wild,

then somebody may, may do it anyway. Yeah, no question. Yeah, that's, again, 16 million, it's a lot.

But if 16 becomes 20 in, for the last five years, years of that deal. That's always the fine line too, right? Where you always talk about it. Wow. If you're getting 128, that's 100.

What more do you need? Yeah. Well, if it's two million a year times eight, that's another 16 million. That's 16. Yeah. Like, I can give that to grandma, if I want.

Like, not often you hear about these really blowing up in players faces. Like Klingberg, it did when he wanted the money in Dallas. He was just delusional about what he was. Chris is a superstar. Yeah. Like he was in line to win a heart until he got hurt last year. He had the best two months of the year to start. There's not very often where, and maybe it happens and it's not all

public, but where someone really regrets passing on a, on a deal, long term big money deal and looks back. It's like, I, that was a major, major mistake. Pro athletes bet on themselves and the stars, we always see those contracts, not the guys that took the one year 900K, but bet on yourself of your superstar. It's going to go okay. Imagine if you're Bill Garon and the wild side. Do you think they really, do you think they thought they were coming over the top? Big day today.

I think they thought they were. We're going, are we going to go to 16? I find it interesting. If they're at 16, like you walk in, we're going to negotiate, we're going to get this shit done and we've got some money and we believe in

you. We're going all the way. 16. I'm confused where the negotiations ended. do you know what I mean like if you're if he if you led to believe 16 would get it done well even if you weren't you've got to be thinking around the league this is 16 you're the top of top of the foot you're top of the table and if you're sitting across from there going no okay what do you want like how 17 how far how how high does it have to be

16 and a quarter you stand up and go when you're bill gary you go well I can't do That's hard not to take it a bit personal. Which is that point. It's like, well, it's 16. You would be the highest paid for a while at least. Well, until South of Conner. Right. But even, so then you'll be the second or the third.

You'll be a top five guy for a long time. You just have to be content with what you're getting paid. Do you even want to be here? He does. The other thing, too, I wonder about is. But that's not, that's not the messaging. I'd be getting. I mean, we're, this is a report.

So we don't have any idea how negotiations, or what either camp is looking for. There is a world where Carol Caprizov says, I'd love to make 16. I want it for four years. And I want to jump back in when the cap's 130 million. But that's what I'm curious. So your question is, what is the Caprizov camp on? It's a good question.

But I'm not surprised by this at all. And I think if you were to tell me that Carol Caprizov is negotiating, he doesn't want to have an opinion. I'm not sure why we even brought it up. No, I'm glad we brought it because I think people are going to get sticker shock on all these new deals. Because that's how quick the cap is growing. And we were in this flat cap era for like what felt like almost a decade. And it was like a nibble a little more, a little more, a little more. We are now going to see 10% jumps.

And that this is the sticker shock of that. When you're committing someone to an eight year deal, that could be eight years of huge growth. And so agents are like, no, no, no, no. If it's eight, we're going way bigger than that. It's a huge pivot for sure. Whereas locking in for eight, that would be the goal of all players. Previously. I want the, I want eight, right?

is I'm going to do a sign and trade so I can get that eighth year. And now because of the cap going up. I'm not going anywhere near. Matthew Science. There's also way back at my era. Yeah. You used to get injured and be done.

Like, yeah, it's so much better on that side now. Right? Like the science, the medical side of things. Like Bobby Orr's knee ended his career. Yeah. You really have to do something. like Landis, like a carlid's

like carlid replacement. Right. So I wonder if that, you know, I was a player, my agent would say, well, well,

better take it. Yeah. You get hit by a bus. They're going to be fine. Well, I don't think these guys even think about that. I wonder too. And it would be the,

because of the, if you're a, if you're a, you're a young kids still. These are young guys. I was going to see, Fantilly. He's coming out of his entry level. We're not going to get an extension done.

All of these deals that are being pushed back, there's some mom and dad, like you, we have talked about. People our age, a little bit older that have 20, 22, three-year-old kids being told by their agent, don't, let, let, let, we can get more. And you'd be sitting there thinking, this is a hundred and forty million dollars. And that's where. Okay, son. If you, I don't know, it gets confusing. Are you trying to put yourself in the team shoes and then in the player's shoes and then in the agent's shoes to kind of get a feel of what and everybody's different. Well, I got four kids and I'm set up in Minnesota. Does he married? Does he like

Minnesota? Everyone likes where they play. I got no doubt that he enjoys it. I think Rasmus Anderson likes Calgary, but he ain't staying. Like, he might like playing in Minnesota, but it doesn't mean I got to hang my hat here for the next 20. I didn't buy 40 acres and start planting oats. like I'm okay if I go somewhere else. They want to pay me more and I whatever. And they will pay more. This is going to get done. But you might be right though. It might not be eight years even when it does get. If I'm an agent and I have a star player, I think it would be a huge mistake.

If your job is to maximize earnings, now again, if you love it here and you got family and you're going to be here no matter what, sure, we'll do eight. But if you want to maximize earnings for a player, it's just look at when we showed you that graph with Dustin Wolf's salary. year over year in today's money how low it gets. Like he's making $5.5.5 million by the middle of that deal. Imagine getting a number one goalie for $5.5 million. That's Joey DeCard money.

Like that's why these deals aren't happening. Like Kempay, McDavid, Ike, Caprizov. I wouldn't be surprised if all these players resign with their teams. But the landscape is so different with the cap that agents don't want to screw this up. You could argue on that flip side by saying if I sign for, excuse me, if I signed for eight, I might be leaving some real money on the table on the back end of this. But if you only sign for four, like you say,

what if your production goes down? What if you get injured? What if the world landscape? Yeah. That's four years of 16 million guarantee that you're saying no to. That's also money that's you've left in the balance. And that's the agent's job is to measure those things, right?

And it's like, okay, so where's the life-changing generational wealth? And then how do we? And Austin Matthews has been the one that broke, the mold. He went from entry level, straight to UFA on a five-year deal. We'd never seen that before in the NHL where someone made top market money as if he was a UFA and they

literally took him from 30 year of the entry level, right to free agency. And then he signed a four-year deal at 12, 13. Now we signed another three-year deal. In a similar timeline in the same universe, Austin Matthews is going to make way more money than Connor McDavid because he's

just structuring his contracts to get back in the market more often. agents are learning. And that was Judd Moldover, who is now Connor's agent. It wasn't Conner's agent when he signed that eight-year deal. That's Jeff Jackson, who was running the Oilers from Toronto. It's a great spot when you're one of those guys.

I'll sign for three years. You know, it's more money than I'll ever spend. And maybe in three years, I want to live in a different place. I want to do something different. The team will suck, whatever. There might be a different approach by the GMs have to take, too. Or is there going to be something that comes into... New CBA has been signed.

Nothing news coming into the next five, six, six, But these, they'll figure out ways to write shit in that's still, maybe not. Maybe it's all standard. But the GMs used to be in lockstep. Yeah, we won't do this. We do not. Bridges were not a thing. These young math nerds that run teams, they don't have a clue.

They're like, boom, negotiating. Yeah, whatever you need. And to be fair, if you really are going to get into that hardball, what's an extra $2 million for Maple Leafs? sports entertainment versus keeping a superstar on your team. I think it's more about and the money might get high enough. Sorry, it's not about money for sports. Maple Leaf Sports Entertainment.

It's about the cap space. Right. It's whether you can now pay the goalie or keep the goalie and the superstar. That's the, Minnesota's position to do well to, if they have to give, Caprizov more money than they're comfortable doing, their caps in great shape. Now they got Zee,

William was going to be coming up in a couple of years. I think they already re-uped that good young defenseman. they brought in from LA and the who's in a cap crunch almost no one to be fair and I and I'm actually curious million new money every year so they've changed things a little bit with the with the you can't hide the LTIR yeah your playoff rosters have to be cap compliance so that that's going to change things but like who over the last decade has been so cap crunched that they couldn't boilers this summer during what does that stop I mean but next year they'll have like 20 million to spend or something right like obviously

Connor's money. And they're still making, Florida, right? Because they wanted to keep all those guys under. Tampa's cap pretty hard. Vegas is always right there. But all those teams are going to get the extra nine and a half for next year, right?

That's kind of what I'm getting at is that you worry about this cap crunch. And I just don't know that it. It's not happening when the cap grows like this. It's very, yeah. But the players also know that too, right? That's why the deals aren't done. If you're.

But then fine, make. If you're Jack Eichel. So, sorry. I'm, um, blah,

five years is a I don't need an eight-year contract. Like, I'm actually talking CBA. Five-year deals. They maxed it out at seven on the new CBA. So I think after July 1 next year, you won't be allowed to go eight. You can go six to a different team or seven at home. So they dialed it back one.

And that's sort of the direction you're talking about. Make them short. And honestly, I don't know if it's better for players or owners. So that's the case. We've seen a lot of mistakes on eight-year deals. Imagine if John Hubert, I was only allowed to sign five. That's a win for the owner. Yeah, we would be okay with a few.

Now, in the Oilers case, you'd have to pay Carter three years. Yeah, but you can keep paying guys. You don't have to. It's come a new deal. That's what Austin Matthews has done in Toronto. He's got four contracts with them. If your city is so great. Yeah, if you're signing players long term out of fear that they're going to leave.

That's emotional. That's tough. That's how he wrote that sign. That's not ideal. I'm going to give you it all in signing bonus money so we can't buy it out ever. The wolf deals a hell of a deal. Hell of a deal. Especially when we talk about Capri's update.

They're certainly not, right? Caught a tale of two days. Yep. Where it feels like this goalie, if he chose to, could have really played hardball and probably won. If he has a good season, he absolutely wins. Yeah. Just go be better than Olmark and Swayman,

and now you can ask for nine a year. I hope he's done to fat cat. Yeah, well, it didn't sound like he was at the golf tournament yesterday. Comey gave, you got the comie seal of approval. What was a fat cat, like? You've got everything. You just kick your feet up, cruise through life. It's more lazy.

I don't have a right to be lazy. He's not that I've, he's still with like boats and properties. I don't know. It's not as though look where I've positioned myself in life. Being a fat cat's nice. I'm on easy street. It's kind of nice.

It would be nice to make this kind of money, but try working. But they don't give a shit. They got all the money in the world. Well, I hope it works out for Carill. But make no mistake. Billy Garon's a sour, sour man today.

And his owner's going on. The owner had just come out publicly at some sort of event. He said, we're going to get this down the line. So when are we having the, what are we going to do for the signing? Are we going to get, well, what a great way to kick off the season. Camp's going to open and we'll cut the ribbon and this guy. They got a new name on the rink. And here's Carrella with his new deal.

And the Wilder finally out from that buyout money. Go Wild. That's not enough money. We've ordered the flower bouquets for his mom and wife. Why don't they do the Koi deal where they get him a bunch of sponsorship? Yeah. Does he like? doing some landscaping or could do your front lawn yeah is the end of that sort of thing how much like what is the max contract what could 20% of the cap so what is that just a hair under 20 for this season and for next year's gonna be a hair over 20 okay

caps of 94 and a halfish this year and 104 and something next year I think we've never seen anyone close to it in terms of like the full 20 but if caprice off can go get 17 18 if you're connor's agent and you want it you'll get it. I feel like if, I don't know, we don't need, we're now, see if we're going to, we're going to,

way to go. Let's assume for Caprizo, I was like, I'm happy with 16, but I only want to do four. Mm-hmm. Why don't the wild just say, well,

okay, sure. Probably will. Because that's essentially five, because you got one year left in your deal. I think they will. If you can have this guy for,

hell yeah. Right? No, I don't think this is contentious at all. I think it gets done. It's just that it's going to be a bigger number than people are used to. And if you are going to take eight years, well, I'm going to ask for a lot more.

Because yeah, it's that, that's what it is. It's that holy shit, turned down a hundred, turned down 16 million dollars a year. I just, we can't predict the future. How much more are you going to get? I bet you get, uh, so, because he's not taking 16 for eight. So I bet you it's seven, it's similar to 16 and 17 when it's all done. But then in term kind of throws that around a bit. Right.

He'll get, he'll do well and he'll get another. huge deal after this one. Unless it's it. I don't see how old he is. So it's just going to become the NBA now. They sign short-term deals

of player options opt out when the cap goes up. If you want to maximize earnings, that'd be smart. Austin Matthews is the poster child. He's going to make more money than anyone else in his career. When he retires,

he'll be the highest paid hockey player of all time. It's 28 now, Capriza. Well, he won't be the highest paid forever. No, and then it'll be a kid after him that's got an agent that's saying they can't ever pay you enough with the amount of money you make these teams get as much as you can

and let the GM deal with the cap. It's still, it's much like house prices and butter prices and margarine. When does it end? Yacht rentals. When, like at what point is it like, well, no, it can't. Oh, it just keeps going up. Well, as soon as they start charging less for tickets and beers and shrinking teams, not expanding, then it'll go down, but it'll keep going up.