Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Leafs Nation Is In FULL PANIC MODE 😬 Ft. TSN's Noodles | BB Clips

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

Boomer, Pinder, and Rhett are joined by TSN’s Noodles as they break down the struggles of the Toronto Maple Leafs, who sit at 8-8-2 and near the bottom of the Eastern Conference. Things are not looking good, and Leafsnation is officially in full panic mode. What’s going wrong? Is it time for major moves? The guys dig into what’s causing the slide and where the Leafs go from here.VIDEO LINK: https://youtu.be/irtm-zlrVG0#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #torontomapleleafs #leafsnation CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

But like the Leafs are near the bottom and there's good teams above them that they've got to jump over to get to spots. And these young teams out east seem to be playing well. Is there a concern in Leafland? Yes, there should be because they're, I think there's a concern because, first of all, I thought there was going to be an adjustment with the loss of Mitch Marner. He's a great player. Yeah. But not only the loss of him, but the people.

type of player he was. He's a very, very elite complimentary player. And what I mean by that is, I think he's a star, but he makes other players around him better. So you think about it. He was the guy on the... Oh, no. You can't try to. He just can't. You just can't. What's going on? You got me? Oh, you know. He's back. What happened? It's stalled. Yeah. Okay. I was like, all of a sudden, I saw faces like, faces. I'm like, is this

me or you. Okay, let me start over. Where was I at? Mitch Martin? I don't know. Yeah, smarter. He's a unique player. We know he's good.

You weren't going to replace him the player. He's an elite puck mover. Okay? A puck transporter. So all of a sudden you've got to adjust your power play breakout because he's a guy who would skate it up and distribute on the half wall. Five on five, he'd draw people towards him and a beautiful pass and Austin Matthews

Matthew Nyes, big body. Get to the front of the net. He gets a. app in because of Marner. So you're losing one elite player off your roster. I get it. And you replace it, you know, with more depth. You know, Waw and guys like that,

Machelli, who has a little bit of skill, all that type of stuff. So they got to learn to play without him. That had asked Austin Matthews knows how to play hockey. He's fine. William Nealander, John Tavares. They kept the same decor. They're one year older. I don't know if they're slower,

but they don't have a puck transporter. Like Morgan Riley is a good. skater. He's pretty methodical, jumps into the play, but they don't have anybody else that makes you know, tape-to-ta-tape rocket passes, you know, two zones. Oliver Ekman-Larsson can do it in flashes. He hasn't done it. He's done it in the past, but he's 34 years old now. So I think they need at least a D. And then up front, their depth is really challenged. John Tavares is 11 goals. He's been awesome. He's been awesome. He's been awesome. very consistent and a pro.

William Nealander's got a bunch of points, but he's William Nealander. You know, missed two assignments last night that cost them goals. Matthew Nyes, he had good points, but he's not a puck transporter. He's more,

go get the puck and he can make plays. So they miss Marner, and then the goaltending, which bailed them out last year, Stolar says not, he's had to play as a one. He's not a one. He's a tandem guy.

And then they had Hildeby play last night. It wasn't his fault. And Joseph Wall is. been going. He hasn't played a game yet. They've just called them up here today. So I think they've got lots of things. I would say for Treat, don't make a knee-jerk reaction, but this team, the Atlantic doesn't have a bad team. No. They don't. Including Buffalo. I don't think Buffalo's a bad team. I think they've got good players. They may not play with like a team most or some nights, but they got a lot of good players and they got to sort some stuff out there with Alex

tuck. But I just look at the Atlantic. There's, there's no, weak teams there. So, you know, Tampa's woken up, even though they gave up a seven spot the other night. Tampa's fine. Florida's fine. Boston is a really good team, like team. Like they play a team game.

I think Marco Stern changed her. I was in Boston last week. He changed their forecheck in their defensive zone a little bit. Took them a little bit to settle in. They lost last night for the first time in eight games to Ottawa. And that was a close game. It was 5'3, the empty netter. Stozer got two at the end.

but I look at it, they're in one. So you're getting back to, yes, I still think they can dig out. They're two points out. Like, let's not overstate the situation there. They're 500. They're 8, 8 and 2. But we haven't seen their best. So I always try and remove emotion.

In the media and the fans, we can have emotion. But if you're in management, you can't make knee-jerk reactions. I could look at Toronto's roster and say there's probably four or five guys that played their capability. The rest they aren't. So what is it? Can you get more out of those players? Which I think the answer is yes. But how much more?

That's what Tree has to figure out. Where is his team's best? And where do I add to make them better? I think the Leafs are effed. They're about a coin tosser right now by most models. I know. but you're a coin toss. You're a coin toss with a team that's supposed to be as good as they're going to get.

Yeah. You lost. They've been 100 plus. Like Noodle said they're 100. They're not. They're like 105 to 110 every year for a decade. The last time they were at a 50% chance to make the playoffs is 2016. It's a decade ago.

Like this is like I get the panic. They're definitely not out of it. But they're in a tough spot, relatively speaking. Did Marner have a no trade? Yes. They couldn't move them as of July 1 last summer. And that was one year. just gets a living.

I know. It's so loud. Temple. You got to look, sorry, you got to look back on that Martin thing and it's, it's, you could understand how it came about.

That's, if in 10 years, there's good people, new GMs going, yeah, but remember, they had a deal for Marner last year and he, he,

kiboshed. They wanted to Carolina. Yeah, it was ranting. Once, once, uh, ran it got to Carolina,

wasn't going to sign there. They were in the mix. They asked him to wave, he said, no. selfish players. It doesn't mean. I don't give a shit to both

that. The summer before was their last one to move. They had to move them in June 24. That is a, that's not moving McDavid. That's moving Marner. And I get what he meant to the franchise.

But once you passed that date, you, and the guy running things has kind of been down this road before. Can't lose assets for nothing. Because you think about what you could have got for Marner at that point, they'd be in fine shape. Totally. They'd be fine. And it was his first tier as GM and they actually had, like they won around that year,

if I'm correct, or maybe it was their injured goal is. What led to the decision? Yeah. And it's, but at the same time, it's like this, it's the asset management game. We're talking a lot about it now because this team's in last place. And it's like, you don't have a time machine. If you did, you train Anderson last year's deadline. It's ridiculous that they didn't. But here you are now. So make sure with that's the exact same reason that they didn't move Barner. It's because they evaluated the team. The team needed them.

We were going to be, but we're going to make the playoffs. We're in a run. You understand, but for GMs coming up, cut pay. Yeah, and it's like,

oh, we didn't think we saw a deal that made us better. It's like, right, but did you compare that to getting Nick Waugh? Because that's what they got for martyr.

They turned it into a sign and trade. It wasn't a walk as a free agent. Yeah. But it's like, it's a bottom six centerman you got for a hundred point player. You're not winning that deal, period stop. And you're screwed moving forward.

The, don't have a lot of prospects. They still have, like, you've got arguably the greatest goal score right now in the game. You've got a really good player, William Nealander. I like their goalies, but one's pissed at his D and the other one's not there. And the D, they just, they went a little too old big grit, which is kind of like a Trilliving Achilles heel when you looked at his time here. It was always a little too much emphasis on size and grit and you lose the ability to move on. TANF is now out, which is what. what you would have expected if you watched Tanna play.

Like, how is this guy going to be when he's past 35? Well, probably hurt. Yes, that's right. I think trees in six-year-de-old there. Four years. He's the frog and the water. It's getting hotter, do you know? And don't forget, they changed presidents last summer.

Keith Pelley comes in and says, like, the standard is winning. Like, the temperature is absolutely getting cranked up if they don't turn this around soon.