Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - LET'S SEE SOME TRADES 🔥 | FN Barn Burner - March 2nd, 2026

Episode Date: March 2, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Rabbit, rabbit. Does that work still? Brett hit one in the pre-show, which I didn't appreciate because that reminded Dean. And then he always- Oh, I knew about it. I was prepared. You had it in the whole street? We'll never know.
Starting point is 00:00:15 We'll never know what would have happened. That's the thing with Rhett. It's on top of these things. And I hope everyone else is on top of the fact that tomorrow, cheap grocery day. Oh. And in today's world, set your butter alarm. You're going to need it. Yeah, you are.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Yeah. Holy Christ. Wherever you can catch a break. Fiscally, you got to take it. I would take it to the cleaners. We're talking to Banff. There's only one thing you can get a deal on these days. Yeah, there's very few things.
Starting point is 00:00:43 And oddly, I was just thinking about it in the pre-show. That. Yeah, that thing. It's still rather affordable for one. Pork tenderloins. Yes. It's a nice protein. Pork tenderloin is good protein.
Starting point is 00:00:59 It's hard to F up. Jack found a way. You can make pork turkey. You get a little long, but yeah. It's like they kind of forgot about it. There's so much else on that pig. That's so delicious. Got some good bacon on Saturday.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Some great sausage yesterday. Welcome to the show. It's a presentation of Bet365, the best, darndest gaming partner in the whole world. Love you. Download the app, get into the game. USB 19 years of age or older, whatever your bet is.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's never ordinary at Bet365. there's something out there that's not on there, go find it and tell me, because I defy. I mean, good luck to you. Haven't found the Rhett over under on swears for today's episode, but I might not have been looking in the right category. It could be low. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:47 So we start out, it's going to be low. And then by the end, you're like, wow, we got to six. Well, I have a feeling. You kind of control it to a certain extent. I definitely help it along. Did you notice how he was trying to put, I was sitting in a chair over there. And I was, I was thinking about, now,
Starting point is 00:02:01 how is his brain work? People are like, one of these idiots, stuff. I mentioned something about Austin Matthews. And then Ryan was desperately trying to find a comparable. You know, why because of his favorite word.
Starting point is 00:02:17 He needs context. That's right. I was sitting there going now why would he, oh, because he needs context. Like, whatever. That's similar to us. History's got so many lessons for us. We can only find those historical things. It's also, but it's
Starting point is 00:02:32 but the first, the first trigger is, is I must debate you. It's like, Austin Matthews, he's just not a good leader. Oh, what about Jack? Ikel. Compression, air, fuel, spark. Fires a fire, we got a fire. Well, how are we going to feed this fire?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Ah, what does that? Jack Eichol, that's Buffalo. Then the other fire starts up. We're off the races. We like Buffalo. That's why he's good at what he does. That's right. Sabres are doing it, boys.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Book your flights. Sabers are doing it. Yeah, I've seen. Hey, Florida. Super chat, that's right. During the show today, we are live, of course, and in the YouTube chat, if you put a little money down with your scintillating comment,
Starting point is 00:03:16 that comment will make it on the show, and then the money goes to the youth centers of Gagrin. I got a scintillating comment for you. Oh, look out. Mostly I think you're a big boob, but this dog idea was brilliant. Really? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I'm ready to shuffle everyone else. I'm telling you. It's a great thing. You're assuming the dog. One of, it was, but it was, there was on our, Scotcy,
Starting point is 00:03:40 or, uh, fishing trip. I'll take my dog. And there's maybe three people on the planet. I'd take at the same level or ahead of the dog. That's his, it's like,
Starting point is 00:03:52 I don't need anybody else. Cindy Crawford from the Pepsi commercial. Yeah. Then the dog. Yeah. But then, but you know, but you know,
Starting point is 00:04:01 he's like, you kind of get risk. That's not, you know who's here? dog the big boy and look at him wag is your pissing me off you're annoying me don't want to talk to you i've had enough of you already you me dog let's go let's go let's go get some control where are we going you know what it don't matter go well i'm excited i know you're so let's go does your boy been out to the land yet oh yeah like strong like five stars recommend low return this was he was
Starting point is 00:04:29 he was nervous but excited yeah it's a lot of land out there bored but motivated too much of that what's that grass they shouldn't eat with the thistleies that get stuck in their throat and their bun and they forget what it's coming to get the grass dogs you also told them that he should get another dog
Starting point is 00:04:50 are we ready for that yet? Oh I'm for sure or you're worried about the dog doesn't want to hang with you I have a child that all of my kids have been informed from a very young age that upon the 18th of birthday there will be an eviction notice
Starting point is 00:05:04 So I'm close to one leaving. I'm going to shuffle him out, get another dog in. Yeah. You need the same number of beating hearts. Just one less human. I'm happy to feed. Love to cook.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Love to cook. Yeah. I love it. He was very anti-dog a year ago. Yeah, dogs are great. And true, it depends on the dog as well. You need to have a good boy. He looks like he's a very good boy.
Starting point is 00:05:30 It's not a lot bad dogs. There's some bad owners. There are some bad owners. Yeah. Usually bad owner, not bad talk. Yeah. Who's yelled? Talk hockey.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Not yet. Oh, wow. Yep, they'll get there. Yeah, it's not a get your helmet on day, but it's a day after one. There's a lot, I'll bet you there's a lot of stress in the city just popped in my brain. So I started talking about right now. Kids playoff hockey is. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Weird city chance. It's ratcheting up. You 11. It's the, it's one of those things, too, as a parent, you're like, who, we're almost at the end of this. Yep. And it's like, oh yeah, but then the other one starts up like an hour after the last game. It's a great been Hawksie's spring New Jersey's god almighty. I think at this game it ends at four o'clock.
Starting point is 00:06:19 We should be able to work trials. No softballs at 530. God, son of a bitch. Well, 90 minutes there. What do you want to do? Go lay down. We're here on the McLeod Law LLP Studios. We have company in the studios today.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I don't know if you knew that. What? aside from Jack, I don't see anyone. I do not. Yeah, down the hall. We've got a visitor from, uh, headquarters. Oh, the Wolverine.
Starting point is 00:06:45 I thought it was off to a meeting, but he's never been invited to headquarters. He's an outlier. He's an early. Gabby's here. He was yelling, uh, Friday. He was loud in that room beside us. Cabby gets animated. He gets, uh, well, you know what it is?
Starting point is 00:07:00 Enthusiasm. Yeah. Like we, we get loud when we argue. Other than that, it's very. We're angry. He's enthusiastic. Yeah. Angry or angry.
Starting point is 00:07:08 Jack, you eating today? How's your weekend, Jack? How the hell are you doing over there? I'm doing, Joe. I'm not, no, I'm not eating. Nope. Good boy. He's staying with you on the fasting thing.
Starting point is 00:07:16 He knows how good he feels afterwards. He said to me the other day, says, you know what? I think I'm on this now. He's kicked the pouches. He's not eating on Mondays. Yeah. I'm training for the MRF. That's my new goal.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'll do you. I'll take you down on the MRF. Retro's done the murf. I can't do a pull up, though. I got to do the, that's the hardest part. I got to do the roll. Walk us through this again because not all of us are.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Run a mile. Well, I think the MRF is a nine innings. There's a crossfit. Nine hot dogs. I had the MRF last summer. That's right, yeah. No wonder you're training. You bailed with five and a half dollars last year.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Yeah, you failed last time. I can understand why that's a goal of yours now. That'll be my next thing. What is it? One mile run, 100 pull-ups, 200 push-ups. 200. 300 squats. 300 squats and another one mile run.
Starting point is 00:08:03 I've done it. That's a long pit stop in the middle. I'll tell you that. And the real athlete, they wear like a weighted vest. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah. What is all that rucking? Ruck. Yep. We're a ruck sack. Let's go ruckin. I'm going to do some ruckin. What is rucking?
Starting point is 00:08:21 That's actually a thing in rugby. It's got a ruck in a mall. Sounds like, uh, it sounds aggressive. Just, it does. Rucking. Slop of the lip, you can. Yeah. Not ideal.
Starting point is 00:08:33 I hurt my leg closing the truck door today. I'm sorry about that. Yeah. It'll happen. It does. Well, some things to get to today. No, okay. See you,
Starting point is 00:08:46 buddies. No, no, no, no, no, no. This is a busy week. Okay. It's a very busy week. That's where we're going to save our energy. Bated breath. We wait as the deadline.
Starting point is 00:08:56 What does that mean? But why is it baited? Yeah, we understand that's what it is. So it's the term bait. You're so nervous, excited, slash whatever. You're just waiting up. No, I get what it, but the actual term. Why is it baited?
Starting point is 00:09:12 I don't know. Like is it B-A-I-T-E-D? Is it B-A-I? Huck and a fish? Yeah. Is that the bait? We've got the internet for these things, friends. Bated breath.
Starting point is 00:09:29 It's B-A-T-E-D. Right. Holding one's breath in anxious, anticipation, patient fear or excitement. I don't know if I've ever used that word. Bated is shortened form of abated, meaning reduced, lessened or held back. Abated breath, baited.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Because that's what I... So it's Latin. I felt like it wasn't baited like a fishing hook. It was something else. Abated, shortened, abated. That's I did not know that. Lazy. There you go.
Starting point is 00:09:52 There you go. You don't need AI. You don't need AI. Yeah. Got it all here. No one else was giving you that info today. I guarantee. There's not another.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Sportsy podcasty show That's giving you that kind of break No sir The flames last night Wrap up their California road trip I wouldn't want to be coming back I would feel like you played good Vitamin D
Starting point is 00:10:16 Things are great The sun's out guns out The food fish Well yeah Hang out here for a while Would be nice though coming back It's not 40 below It's 40 below
Starting point is 00:10:26 When I turn that on There are certain kids that live with losers. And then I pick them up and I drive them to to practice. Because you're a man of the people. Games and stuff. And I turn that on.
Starting point is 00:10:40 Oh, I just, you look in the rear view and what do we got? What's this song? And then they go home and their mom and dad are like, he was playing. What? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Mr. Warner. I'm joking. It's got a heater in his truck. What kind of rodeo is this? Love the rodeo. Yep. The flames. Lose last night,
Starting point is 00:11:09 but played very well in the process. Almost a perfect ethical tank. Just that one little point getting in the way. 3-2, the Anaheim Ducks beat the Calgary Flames. Damn it, Yeager. Eager Sharon Govich is 12th on the power play. Gave the Flames a lead. The Flames had a pair of leads in this game.
Starting point is 00:11:26 Joel Tharbe. Lovely tip. That was in the first period. Therby, he's up to 13. I said 20, right? 25? 20. I said 20. It's a long way to go still, Joel. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:11:39 A pair for Cutter Goce. He's scoring a lot. He's going to get to your number that you had fairby at. He's probably there already. He has 28. Yeah, that's a lot. He's passed all your numbers there. He's got it. Yeah, he has a good shot. He can score there. He's a very good shooter. Well, the thing about the shooting, Dean is that you need the guys to pass you the puck, too.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I feel like they've got a few of those fellers. Now in fairness, the first one that he had kind of off the side of the net up, off Cooley's back, down his back, getting it, though, he was thinking it, he was thinking it. He was kind of thinking it. Or at least, I don't have much of from the saying, I'm going to throw this on and see what happens.
Starting point is 00:12:18 The second one on the power plate, not a fluke, very much by design. A dish from Jackson Lecombe, a one-toucher, bingo. That's nice. Jackson Laconne. Boy, and coolie's there. Bingo Bingo Bingo Bongo.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Deception, guys. That's what I see the kids. I was on the ice to support. Deception, fellas. Doesn't have to be the huge back swing, does it, ret? Just a little to freeze the goalie. Well, and both of them, it's a good first pass. The one touch, it's right to the tape. Very quickly.
Starting point is 00:12:53 It's very quick. Thip, thup, bang. You can't do it much quicker than that. Pretty good. From where those men were standing. standing. That tied the game at two, halfway through the third. They would go to overtime. It would solve nothing. And then to the shootout. Nada. A post for Matt Veigridden. He's been very good. Could have extended it. I like this guy. I'm more of that. Is that that play?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Because he hit one first shift against San Jose, didn't he? It was, yeah, I think so. It was the power play last night where he's kind of down by the circle-ish. and puts it across to Coronado, who either wasn't quite ready or he kind of had to double clutch it and then couldn't quite get it. That's a hell of a play by Gridden to get that. It's very good hockey player.
Starting point is 00:13:48 It's very good hockey player. They took him with that first that they got from Vancouver in the Lindholm deal. It was like, okay, well, we've seen his name kind of like early second round and some draft boards maybe late first. You're like, what are we getting here? What's going on? Led the U.S. H. own scoring his draft year.
Starting point is 00:14:02 goes to the queue, lights it up as you'd expect them to, dominated as much as it'd expect. But as a pro, it seems like he just fits. Like he's big, he shoots at a ton, he skates really well. He's got size. I, I, I, there's a lot to like here. Are they going to have to load management him or can we just play him? No, the other guy is the only guy where you load management.
Starting point is 00:14:23 Just play him. Okay. Yeah, there's also you got 12 holes for forwards. Yeah, play the piss out of this guy. Yeah, love Gridden. Um, playing more. 15.07, couple shots. Overtime?
Starting point is 00:14:38 Because we've got a lot of offensive talent, but I was hoping. Come on, Husk. No, I did like, and I do want to talk about him today. Um, I did like seeing Zach White Cloud getting some, uh, 3003 play.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I looked at before you get to the 3 and 3rd 3 really quick. He's five and a half to six minutes more per night than he was playing. Oh, yeah, like I do want to talk about him in a minute. He's handling it lovely. Yeah, because better than you would have thought. Or your guy slotted the way he was. He's fine. Yeah, he's tired out.
Starting point is 00:15:09 He's fat like I was. He's eventually that. But watch, hey, look at this. White Cloud's out there. And even if it's a puck in the zone that pass out of the zone and then, okay, here you, it's, well, maybe, Zach's. I'm not sure how many three on three shifts he's had. No, there's strengths and there's weaknesses, Dean.
Starting point is 00:15:27 There's places, yeah. Yeah. It's not in my bingo card there having him out for that. Devin Cooley, 34 saves. I was thinking about, like this guy's the saboteur. Yes, they're up two to one in the thirce. I used that exact word last time.
Starting point is 00:15:43 I'm like, damn saboteurs killing the R.B. Him and Wolf, been unbelievable. Yeah. You're using some great words. I was last week, too. No, it was before the Olympics. You're like, Saboteur. He's screwing it up.
Starting point is 00:15:53 He's playing too well. What are you doing out there? Settle down, son. You already got your extension. Yeah, you don't need to, prove anything. Yeah, you're good. The brakes here. You got your deal. Show the out, man.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Show out. I'm trying to do something here. Are you want to play with a good young superstar next year? What a terrible spot to be in because they're playing good. And you can't even be it. Well, you're excited that they're playing well, but you're just like, okay, like the deadline's Friday. Let's make sure we delete from this roster because this roster could finish seventh or eight from the bottom. I don't want to see that. I said it again. You watch them and they're not as bad as they were at the start of the year and they shouldn't be as better as they were at the start of the year.
Starting point is 00:16:30 For them to make the playoffs is a long shot because even last year when they played their asses off it was really hard. I couldn't quite get in. The exact same scenario had to happen. Their roster construction isn't a last place construction but they kind of pissed
Starting point is 00:16:46 the bed early in the year which gave them the opportunity get some of these guys out of here maybe it'll lose a few more points. But I am very fearful that if you look at those standings right now, there's worse teams. Oh, I don't play is hard. St. Louis has been awful. They don't care. It's been awful. The Rangers
Starting point is 00:17:02 are awful. What that was what Florida realizes, eh, whatever. Like, the only saving grace is that you hope Barkup comes back, and maybe they just say screw it. If they're, yeah, I don't. I don't know what the rules are around that, but yeah, like,
Starting point is 00:17:18 what's the point if you're Florida, if you can rest him back if, well, it wouldn't be, it's up to him. The point would be it wouldn't be rushing because you're absolutely not rushing them back when you're night from the bottom of the NHL. the Panthers wake up today. Flames are fifth from the bottom. And Winnipeg, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:34 Get going here, Winnipeg. Come on, hell of buck. Like Jersey, I feel like is throwing in the towel. And I think, Toronto's clearly showing up when it's mattered most. Well, we can, you know, while we have those up, we can pivot a little bit and we can come back to the flames. It was we were talking before the show.
Starting point is 00:17:51 How was your weekend? Oh, you? There's some teams that had bad weekends. Yes. The Florida Panthers had a bad weekend. They lost three to two in Buffalo on Friday at home. And then, like, I guess did they win yesterday? Or no, who, what happened to them yesterday?
Starting point is 00:18:10 I apologize. I had the final scores from yesterday. I had them written down and it was erroneous. Yeah, they lost 5-4 to the Islanders yesterday. I had them losing to the Panthers yesterday. They lost 5-4. So a pair of losses for them, they can't sustain regulation losses. Throw that back up, Jack.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Is that OTJ lost to that on? There was an OT lost to Allenders? Is it under's league? 5-4 regulation. Regulation, okay. Yesterday. They need wins. The Toronto Maple Leafs, they had a bad weekend.
Starting point is 00:18:40 Really bad. The worst, potentially, Dean. 5-2 against Ottawa on Saturday, and that's a rival. Oh, yeah. Right? Well, it's the Battle of Ontario. It's right, yeah. It's the B-O-O.
Starting point is 00:18:50 They were also beaten 5-1 going back to Thursday. That was the last Florida win. Oh, Florida beat them? Five to one. And before that, who they got a shellockey from Tampa as well. Oh, Tampa gave them. They've been giving up goals at an incredible rate, Harry. Yeah. Roster construction.
Starting point is 00:19:08 Our friend Brad for living. This is quite a week for him. Is that a hot seat situation? 100% of it has to be. Keith Pelly says the moment he was announced as the new president that it's about winning. It's about nothing else. And this is a season where it looks like you've taken a massive turn away from competitiveness towards not winning. Well, and that's me's gone.
Starting point is 00:19:27 but it's to the point where I, well, he's going to have to sell a plan, right? Well, and he's going to have to sell before Friday and what he gets back will be part of that plan. Can you move OIL? And there's not much there.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You're going to move Harvey McMahon. Yeah, there's not much there that's going to change the short-term fortunes. No, but you can get some of the futures. Or even dramatically change them long-term. Bobby McMan is a fine player in OEL. For McMahon? Yeah, because he's really young and there's lots of tools there
Starting point is 00:19:53 and he's first. Good. I think it'd be the top end of what you could get. If you could be that that, yes, that would be the top end of what you could get for Bobby McMan. Like if everything goes great, I think you could get something close to that. I don't think that's way out of, because you just don't see, like how old's Bobby McMahon? No, I guess. But if you said a second, it's like, okay, well, maybe a second.
Starting point is 00:20:10 I understand it's just one, but you just don't move guys that age often. Winnipeg, who you brought up, bad weekend, a pair of O.T losses. So they got some points, but both losses. They lose to Anaheim and San Jose. More losses. Shucks. It's a lot of losses. I don't think they have it.
Starting point is 00:20:27 I got to be honest. I'm going to throw it out there. I'm a controversial dude. Oh, yeah. I'm ready for this one. They are not responding to Scotty Arneal and his BS. I've also got another hot one for you. Love Jonathan Taze.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Great career. Hasn't been good. Not good at all. Yeah. Has not filled the hole they were hoping. And had a zillion bonuses. No, he looks like a mediocre fourth line center. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:53 And he still is going to go to the Hall of Fame and is a great player. It is not look good. Don't blame him. He's trying. He's just had a lot of time off, fellas. He was given the contract and given a role to fill, and he's just not able to fill it. This is crazy.
Starting point is 00:21:08 When you look at this, Florida has won. Did they ever win the conference? Maybe not. Maybe Florida's the one team, but they're the Stanley Cup champs. Toronto. 100 points a year.
Starting point is 00:21:23 Has one, right? Like, Winnipeg. first overall. The Rangers a couple years ago. First overall. St. Louis on a heater last year. Once they made the coaching change, one of the best teams in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:21:36 There are some teams in there that you did not expect to see on this list. And this is why I think, like, there's some huska hate out there on socials. There's no huska hate. Well, for what? Well, not in this room, obviously. I just see people pissing and moan about everything these days. Well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The point being is like, I do think that the flames have. a less talented roster than everyone on that screen. 100%. And I do think that their work ethic and structure and coaching has kept them from being below the likes of Vancouver, St. Louis, New York. 90%. Maybe Chicago's in the same wheelhouse. But like everyone else has way more skill.
Starting point is 00:22:12 The Calgary Flames don't have Mika Zabinajad, Panarin, Fox, Shasturkin. Like that's a team below them. And I know that, you know, you've moved one of those guys, but you had 50, 50 games with Panarin. the only doesn't have anyone close to it as good as that. No. God, no. Chicago, it's like you're turning it over and you're really young and you're not there yet. That might be the only roster on paper, I think,'s worse than the flames in that group.
Starting point is 00:22:38 No, Vancouver. Well, I mean, if they were healthy and it's different because you have Demko and Heedle, but like, who's your Brock Bester here? Like, Connor Garland would be one of your best winger. I don't understand why people are mad at Huska. Huska's doing a fine job. I understand why people think. I don't, so are they mad at them because they think we should have more points? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:58 It's kind of like talking out of both sides of their mouth. We're like, why are we playing kids more, blah, blah, blah, but then it's also like you realize you could not get more out of the script than what he's getting, right? Because we need context behind this, this anger. So you haven't seen any huska, because we've alluded to this sort of course of the season. I don't. I'm probably not going to the same places, I guess. It's just people on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah. And I don't think it's this massive majority of the fan base running. Yeah, well, you're all idiots. There we go. There is. move along now. Yeah. But can we make sure we get this flames thing in the bottom three there?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Let's go. You're not making it. There's zero chance. Well, that's why this week's a big week, because you can absolutely. I still don't think, and I know what you're going to say,
Starting point is 00:23:35 if you trade those pieces away. And it definitely isn't going to help. But there's no way Vancouver is better at the end of the week. And they're, they're winning this race. St. Louis is going to dump guys. Are they not?
Starting point is 00:23:48 Well, even if they don't, they're still. They might. Right? They've been talking about that. trained guys for two, three years and they really haven't done it. But look where they are.
Starting point is 00:23:57 It's kind of like. They also haven't been. You say they're going to stay. I'm saying, yeah, like, there's lots of talk with it. There's a lot to talk last year, too. And then they went on a heater and they didn't end up. They started to fight to make the playoffs. This is completely different in my opinion.
Starting point is 00:24:11 Their second last. And all we hear is that the ask is really high. So maybe you get enough to move. Of course, he asks is really high. This is a veteran guy. So who be on Rob Thomas? They're going to move? I don't,
Starting point is 00:24:21 I don't think they're moving. Peraco. I don't think they're moving Bennington. I don't. And Thomas is 26. Like, you're going to ask for the moon for a 26-year-old center locked in for the next five years. And I'm not even looking to, so what's the, what's the argument you're making? My argument is that if you delete
Starting point is 00:24:36 Caudrian Coleman, for example, I think you can reel in some of these teams below your Chicago, New York, St. Louis. I don't. New York's going to move Trocheck. I think that's going to happen. I don't think you're worth. I think based on what we just discussed, I think you're wrong.
Starting point is 00:24:52 because Husker will have them playing hockey still. St. Louis, Vancouver is a shit show. St. Louis, I don't know what happens with this Montgomery guy. But something goes on because he, that's the only explanation. That team's no worse last year, talent-wise than this year. Right? I mean, it's the same thing as Calgary. The Rangers have completely packed it in.
Starting point is 00:25:19 And they continue to shuttle out talent. Yes, they're going to be worse. Chicago is what it is. Adam Fox had comments last week about his future. This was a guy that did whatever he could to become a ranger. And now he's like, well, we'll talk about it. New Jersey is the shit. They are ready to plummet.
Starting point is 00:25:35 Tommy Fitz is going to sell. The Jets have to come to the realization that this is not their year. I don't know who they can sell, but you've got to think they're going to. Florida, I don't think is going for it. Toronto's going to sell. They're going to be like, I don't know that you can end up in the bottom three. I hope we can't. We all do.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Like on the surface, I totally agree with you. It's, yeah, Codry has been a driver for them here as of late. He's been very good. He's got two goals the other night. He's been very good. He had zero points at the stroke of though. You'd say Coleman out,
Starting point is 00:26:04 even though they played without him recently. But I just, because I just went through the, with this in mind, I went through with this roster because it's the work ethic is commendable. At worst, it's, it's impressive.
Starting point is 00:26:18 At best, mate, whatever. They just have a lot of guys. guys who I think even post deadline of Cadry's not there. Kevin Ball, John Beecher, Matt Coronado, Zach Whitecloud, Kuznetsov, Klapka, Hanley, Zeri, Lomburg, Gridden, Pahal, Kooley,
Starting point is 00:26:34 Wolf, all players who I think are still happy to go to the NHL, happy to go to the rink, they're playing. I don't think it's going to be a, hmm, a huge sag. I think that the level of play is going to remain more or less what you see right now. I wouldn't be surprised if it's higher,
Starting point is 00:26:50 because cadre leaving. It's not you're not deducting and not putting anything else out there and whoever it is is going to be excited to accomplish and prove that they can play. So if you delete Cadre's a center, which center are you adding
Starting point is 00:27:06 from the system? Don't care. Probably Zeri. It's probably Zeri. And I don't think he is a center but I think you can masquerade his one for a couple months like I don't think but I just He wants to be a center and this will be his opportunity. You do not underestimate a professional athletes will and want, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:26 Yeah. I don't necessarily disagree with you, but I don't think you're going from Cadry to nothing. Correct. Yeah, I don't know that it necessarily means that you put Rory Karens and Cadre's spot and play them all those minutes. I'm with you on that. It's going to be probably the same 13 forwards we've seen, subtracted Cadre, move someone to the wing, and now you're not swapping in and out, Pospasol and Lombard.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Now on the flip side, Codry is kind of their best scoring threat on a nightly basis. At the center. They're in a lot of tight one goal or tight hockey games. You start losing a goal every other game or whatever you want to. Every other game. This is a 40 goal score. Here's what it is.
Starting point is 00:28:05 They just don't have the luxury of losing much in the goal scoring department. And Codry does provide that. We complained old wounds. They didn't sell Iggy. And Iggy should have left long. before he did. Yeah. And we are all like,
Starting point is 00:28:21 oh, we'll never, we can't trade them because we can't, it's not a zero, why do I want to say zero sum game? I don't know. You are going to get people that come in.
Starting point is 00:28:30 I know, I know. Right? Like, and yes, Codry's fine, but that's like, I've never tried a new piece of gum
Starting point is 00:28:37 and I only tried it. Like, there are other people and other players out there. We just saw gridden and we're bragging about these young kids. I don't know who we have in the system that's coming. Center of zero. But I'm giving you high praise to Cadre for a mediocre year. His efforts fine, the team's efforts fine.
Starting point is 00:29:00 But we're, oh, this is good. This is, we're not losing Panarin. He was very good before Christmas, not so much after. Nice since the Olympic break. I'm with you. Because like you say, it's not like you're having to play short-handed every night. There's just there's a, this is a group that enjoys it. They enjoy playing the game and they work hard.
Starting point is 00:29:20 their coaches work hard along with them. I'm with you. Don't underestimate. I don't think it'll just finish my thought. I just don't think a trade, if both of them go, even Coleman and Codry, I don't think that's enough
Starting point is 00:29:34 for them to tumble into the bottom three. How far out are they the bottom three? Like two points? I don't think they can lose a point a month the rest of the way. Are other teams not going to do it? Like again, it's like climbing. It's like climbing in the standings.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Other teams are out there trying to. I don't see who Chicago's going to delete and I don't know where Chicago doesn't need to delete. Well, that's a team we're trying to pass an upside down stand. Yes, but that's what I'm saying. Just because Chicago maintains the same squad doesn't mean they're going to, that you're better or worse, right? Without Cadre and Coleman, are you telling me we can't get as many points as Chicago?
Starting point is 00:30:07 What I'm saying is you've got a better chance of getting below Chicago if you do delete Kadry and Coleman. That's all I'm saying. Yeah. And the same for the Rangers, but they're going to be selling Trocheck. it's increasingly more difficult to get in the bottom three, but I'm not at the point to say they can't do it. It's two points right now.
Starting point is 00:30:26 Right. All it takes is a run of man goaltending. And they've had some bad runs here. As much as they look real good right now, there was, you know, they go on the road for, this is three here. They come home for a six game homestead and then they got five. Don't they have a three game homestead and then they've got five?
Starting point is 00:30:42 And the strengths of schedule is about to get them because LA is not a strength of schedule team. now there's San Jose and Anaheim's just getting okay. Like that's not your murderer's row. Your murderers row is going to be Dallas twice. You've got Colorado three times. I wrote it down the other day. Like it's nasty.
Starting point is 00:30:58 I've got it. Three times Colorado. Three times the Kings, which who knows after the coaching. There's two of those left. Two against Dallas and two more now against Anaheim, who are leading the division by points of percentage after the one. I say coaching change? L.A. is full about.
Starting point is 00:31:15 Did you see the coaching change? Well, I was just going to say it. who was it? No, I didn't. I saw they fired. Jim Hill are gone. I think that 8-1 lost to LA. Oh, and they gave it to D.J. And then they probably sealed it up, but then they played Calgary and won the next one. That seems lazy to give it to the.
Starting point is 00:31:30 And you know what? Here again, not to say, oh, how smart. He should have been gone at the start of the year. That whole, the bullshit. After that play, the playoff, it was a fiasco. Yeah, they screwed up that earlier series real bad. They met, they lost that series. They drove their top four D.
Starting point is 00:31:47 into the ground and we're doing things, the challenges, like what is going on here? The challenge led to the power play, led to the goal. Let's, I feel bad. If he's got some guy up in his ear telling him, you got to challenge this, but it was so clear, you can't challenge this. They should have fired him at the start of the year and we all said it. And here they are spring. So now you've got a temp replacement. DJ Smith's been what the head guy in Ottawa.
Starting point is 00:32:12 DJ was supposed to be the guy coming out of Toronto. Toronto to Ottawa. didn't work out. And Pete DeBore's out there, but there's some other teams that probably have itchy trigger fingers, if things go wrong here. The Oilers are not set in the world on fire. This is 14 goals in three games. Got one win in California in three games. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:32:30 When you look at that list of teams, there's outside looking in, how many going into the year? Like, there's some teams that are in shambles. Yes, the Rangers at the top of my list. Right? Like, you're in shambles. Yeah. well, Florida, Winnipeg, L.A.
Starting point is 00:32:50 Yeah, yeah. There's no way there. You could build cases for those teams as Cup winners in the fall. To a lesser extent, New Jersey. New Jersey was one of the favorites. If you ignore injuries, like, I mean, if you look at the injuries,
Starting point is 00:33:04 you don't really put it on Florida. I think a healthy Florida's doing fine, albeit they played a lot of hockey, but Winnipeg can't lean on missing two or three of the best players most of the year. That's what the Florida Panthers. They play with a lot of math to check for more than half the year.
Starting point is 00:33:15 They still have got bark off. I understand that. All I'm saying is that there's half of those teams at least are in what the hell happened. And that's why you've got teams in playoff spots that we didn't expect like Buffalo, like the Islanders, like Anaheim,
Starting point is 00:33:34 like Utah and San Jose that are close. And Toronto might be the biggest one and you can look back and go while they lost Barner. They basically ran him out, not random out of time, but held his hand on his way of the airport. they're no better off and they've got nothing to build off. But we all, none of us were predicting that this was coming either.
Starting point is 00:33:55 No, not this bad. Right? Like, well, yeah, we'll lose Warner, but we're still, it's playoffs and it's all about what we're going to do once we get to the playoffs. Yeah, once the deadline passes, depending on obviously what the flames do
Starting point is 00:34:09 and then what all the other teams do, it's, it's, what are you on paper? What are you on the ice? And then where's your head? What's the reality? Because the thing about the flames is I don't know in that room if it's not going to be a sudden realization. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:34:23 The deadline's got, we're not getting any help. We're not making the playoffs. They know. The flames know what they are. But in Toronto and like there will be some of those teams. It's already kicked in for those teams. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:36 And then how does that affect their level of play? I don't. I don't think the flames are going to be. I like their mental headspace better than anyone else in bottom. But losses, the only thing. When losses start to pile up, if it's like, oh, we played Dallas last night and got worked. What is Denver tomorrow? And then what do we?
Starting point is 00:34:53 We've lost six in a row. It can get dark. It can, the fun can be sapped out of it pretty quickly. I would say that if they don't make moves and some of the guys that are kind of like thinking. From experience, guys that are sitting. And it's not even pouty. It's that these guys, the guys you're talking about moving are veteran guys. And if they know it's, I'm not going to.
Starting point is 00:35:14 Well, I don't know. Against Chicago, that one game for Cadreys' first year, he did not care. He completely, you don't want those vibes again. No. And he's been great, but if you get past the deadline, I do worry a bit that it's like, I do too, because we saw it a bit in January where they got close to a house spot, and they lost a bunch. I think you want to move them, though, right?
Starting point is 00:35:39 Yes. I don't think you want to try to keep him in tank. You want to move this guy while you can. I start to wonder. how feasible it is right now. Like it's, it's weak of, and I think there's a lot more like, we'll see.
Starting point is 00:35:50 And last week you felt like, that's going to happen. The other thing is too about, you hear these players, I don't want to, Ryan O'Reilly, I don't want to leave. I don't want to.
Starting point is 00:35:59 That's great. What does the team want? The worry I have for guys like that is that as an organization, if I'm on, when I'm the owner, Merr, I don't want those guys.
Starting point is 00:36:15 Love that you're committed to the, city love that you love your teammates and your team clearly not all about winning because the writing's on the wall you're not winning or are they saying i want to be part of the solution next year like don't tear this down that's bullshit i want to be part of this turn it if you're not realistic enough to look at the mirror and let's see what color is that gray that's great when you start having gray you don't have time to be part of the rebuild almost looked it in there effing rebuild almost slipped it in yeah and i'm i'm I believe that.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Yeah, I don't want to move. Yeah, because my family's comfortable, and I get it as a player. I absolutely get it. I'm talking about when I own the team with Mer, we're going to run those guys out of town. Okay. We're not going to act.
Starting point is 00:36:59 We don't want no fat cats building houses and planning daycares for their kids. You're here to play hockey. Let's win. I'm curious what over at Saddle Don't Rise Way. Place with Cadry, because I think we all kind of believe that there would need to be salary.
Starting point is 00:37:17 retention. And I think that the flames with the spy, I think they'd be willing to do it. Do you think it with Murr or with the team, do you think it hinges on what the return is? So I'm not just going to eat to get a fifth. I 100% do because he's not
Starting point is 00:37:31 being a he's not a pain in the ass to have in the room. We're talking about him like he's a good player. He's a good player. And Murray's going to go excuse me. I'm paying this guy two to
Starting point is 00:37:47 three to go away. Because we sit here, we're like, just take anything. Just take anything. But I have to think that behind closed doors, it's, we'll eat some salary on this. It's got to be worth our while. But what's the return? We're not going to just do it to get them out, get them out the door. And I understand that, but I also just think the greatest risk you have with Cadre is not the, oh, we didn't get enough of the deadline. It's that we're stuck holding the bag. I'm with you. I'm just one. I'm with you as well. I get that there's probably that sentiment there. But again, let's, remember out of the seven year deal that he signed,
Starting point is 00:38:19 how many of the first four have you thought you can actually get assets of this guy? You, maybe year and a half? Two years ago, you were like, we can't pay it. There's too much. But he's playing year 35. He's already beat the odds. Okay. Let's play this out for shits and giggles.
Starting point is 00:38:35 How many years left? Three years at seven. Three after this. When are the flames good again? Probably right around them. Differences of me. Well, the difference is that you're not going to bottom out as hard. for the next three years.
Starting point is 00:38:48 You can't guarantee anything as far as bottoming out. I'm not guarantee. It just would make sense that the team with Goders. And have you heard this team say they're going to bottom out? Never. Exactly. And they don't believe that. And it's not that they won't rebuild,
Starting point is 00:39:01 retool, re-biggle, whatever the F you want to call it. They will not go into a season saying we've sold everything. We're not even planting crop this year. That's not what they're going to do. And if Murray Edwards has Mr. Edwards, if he has to eat three
Starting point is 00:39:18 to dump a guy is he not go well why don't I just keep him who cares? I understand that's probably the thing I would take umbrage with that position it's his team he can do what he wants. What is what?
Starting point is 00:39:33 What are you a thesaurus? Here's my thought on it. My God. Jack, what's the umbrage mean? Issue. Here's what he would take issue with. Umbrage. I know.
Starting point is 00:39:44 It's a level. city in southern England, umbridge down by Sussex. Um, oh, we're all saying the same. No, no, no, but just like for this example to play out, there's this notion like, why would I pay a guy to not be here? And it's like, they're not going to go replace the salary. Like, let's be honest. They're not at the cap.
Starting point is 00:40:02 If you move out seven, you're not going to go spend an extra seven this summer. Like, you're actually saving money, Mer. If you're paying a couple million for him to be somewhere else. No, you know, you're still spending the money on him. But if you didn't train him, you're spending seven on him. But you need a repute. You do need a replace. You have to.
Starting point is 00:40:19 Yeah, but I'm telling you, there's not a $5 million center out there. They're going to go get. Like, they're probably just going to roll some young guys on entry levels or move to the center. Okay. It's an argument. I love make beliefs. And now I'm missed, you're Craig and you're, you're, you're Connie and I've got. Because I'm going to be an overrunner.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Can I not trade them next year? Like, why is it impossible for him to come back and score 20, and still be the same player this year as he is, or next year as he is this year. And it's even easier to move him because then he only has two years.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Contract is less onerous, but you're 36, not 35, not a lot of guys. Like, you're starting to see that expected decline every year. You're not, not it for everyone. Prove it.
Starting point is 00:41:04 Well, I mean, you can prove you go to aging curves, and it would very strongly state that he's already kind of beating the odds. Do you want to keep rolling the dice? He's a functional player right now. Well, at the, okay,
Starting point is 00:41:14 yeah, at the end of the day, what difference does it make? We are not in a position to understand the Cup while he's here. If we're not getting anything of significance and I have to eat, I'll just keep him to pay him. Is he a good soldier, Craig? Can be. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I think he's a great leader on the ice, but I don't think he's going to like being 28th all year next year. That is the only thing. And I, because I, going back to where it's starting, does he get a lip going if Friday comes and goes and he's still here? But you have to play the other side of it. Like he has asked to be traded.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Relentably. Yep. So now he doesn't get traded. You're not getting the same. So as the owner, because I got the owner hand on him. Me and him, me, me, me, my ass. How much am I paying you? Seven. Yeah, you show up and work. But you also don't want guys here, don't want to be here. When did he say that? What I'm saying is you guys like Zedorov in the past or whatever, if you don't get the hell out, I'll take less just like, I can. can't have you around here. You just gave us the big house fat cats daycare speech. You're making one potentially if you don't move this guy, right?
Starting point is 00:42:23 Well, here's the issue then. Here's what it becomes is that we've got, Craig, you're fired. No, no, no, no, you're fired because you've created a situation. We have to kiss ass to the players and we can't. What are we talking about? Well, it was previous GM that gave him the deal. Well, yeah. It's what, all of it is.
Starting point is 00:42:41 It's all true. It's all true. The all encompassing thing that is most challenging is that, that they really don't seem to see the advantage of body coming out even for a year or two. That's the hardest part, Pill to Swallow is a fan of this because you can easily build the case, looking around the league or at the Olympics or at past cup winners, there's a bit of a formula on how to build a cup content. How different?
Starting point is 00:43:03 Pessimistic. How different would the standings look if they were, you know what, we're trying to bottom out or we're doing what we're doing right now, like six points, four. That's the difference. You're near the bottom of the standings. as it is, not trying to bottom up. I don't know what this means, though, but there, if you're the owner,
Starting point is 00:43:23 like I am going to be one day. He said that six times today. He's really moving some money around here. What's going on? When you look at that list of teams that are out, does that give you pause? And I don't even know what I'm thinking. Like, I don't even know how to word what I'm trying to say,
Starting point is 00:43:40 but you can think you're a good team and still, miss miserably. There's no way in the world that the folks in Winnipeg were not by playoff tickets for this spring. Yeah, they won the whole league last year in the regular season. So we go from a president's trophy winning team
Starting point is 00:44:02 to playoffs. Why is it? There's a lot of major stubbing your toes on that list. L.A., Florida, I give a pass because of the injuries. Toronto for sure, Jersey for sure, Winnipeg for sure, New York for sure, St. Louis for sure. Vancouver, partial.
Starting point is 00:44:20 I thought they'd be sort of on the bubble. They're awful. What does it take? Most of the bottom ten is failures, not roster failures. And what does it take for your roster to turn over quickly? And I'm going to give you an example because this kid is unbelievable. He just Matthew Schaefer. Now, that's a first overall pick.
Starting point is 00:44:41 I get it. But if you can hit a home run with, he was a first overall pick that none of them thought was going to be, doing this. Yeah. Now, it might be generational. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:55 But would you say he's changed the whole? 100%. It allows them to move Dobson. They get two other first rounders. Those guys get sprinkled in. They're young, exciting. There's an absolute fever in the fan base
Starting point is 00:45:10 here. Like they own New York right now. It's wild how quickly that one pick changed everything. And again, where was that pick? you think you're selling some jerseys? You think they're making some money, selling some beers? You think they're high-fiving after wins?
Starting point is 00:45:24 You think season tickets are up? Where were the Islanders in the standings last year? They've got some lottery balls. They got some, chicken luck there. You need luck, you do. You can't finish at the bottom and guarantee yourself to pick first. No question about it. There is still a water.
Starting point is 00:45:35 And maybe you don't need to pick first to find a guy that comes in. Because, again, what I'm saying is that, yes, Schaefer was the, but no one was talking about Schaefer as a brick in the Hall of Fame after you're, right? Like this was not the, so maybe at four or five, you hit home run and all of a sudden, I don't think that's going to be the case. But I'm trying to play the, well, the flames again, much like trading cadre, you're not going to zero. You still have Dustin Wolf and you still have Cooley and you, like, you, you aren't a bottom of the barrel team. If you want to go bottom, trade Wolf.
Starting point is 00:46:11 You want to get a first overall? He may be your biggest issue. Yes and no. throw up the bottom 10 again. These teams of the bottom aren't teams that don't have big-name goalies. Like Igor Shisterkin's team is where. Jordan Bennington, big game better, where's his team? Demko hasn't been healthy.
Starting point is 00:46:30 Spencer Knight, we think, is a really good young goalie. Hellebuck's won how many Vez-Nus. Okay, but if you took Hellebuck off the jets, what are they? I'm not going to say, I don't know. Like, how could it be worse than this? It would be worse. Yeah. But again, this notion is like, well, the goal is going to stop for bottoming out.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I mean, the Islanders just won the lottery last year. That helped him, but that's Sorokin. UC Soros was second or third from bottom. He's really going to go. I just, we like to say it, but when we look at the standing, it's not really true. There's a lot of Vezna winners down there. It's why we will have this conversation until we die and they will have it after we're gone, is there's no clear cut one way to do it.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Some teams bottom out, scorched earth, pick high, can't win. Other teams, President's trophy, one bad year. oh, K.L. McCar, thanks. Stanley Cup. There's just no exact science to it. There's only one thing you know, and that's the higher you select in the draft, the better your odds of getting a superstar. And I'll say that when we've crushed them, I can't be upset with them for playing hard.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Nope, no, you don't want the opposite. They went last night, the third game of a trip, back up the net. When they played their ass, is off. They had a lead at one, nothing, two to one. They don't score much, but they were in that game against the exciting young hockey team. And they got a point and probably, you know, could have won the damn thing, but they play hard. And I can't be upset at them for that. No, you can't. And so I don't know what you, so I don't know what you do. You try, so you try and neuter the
Starting point is 00:48:08 roster, I guess, like, like major league, right? I think trade these guys. Conn said it. You said everyone's, you just have to manage assets. Continue to get younger, continue to move off older guys when it's time. And I just hope that now is the time with Goddrey. For his sake, for the team's sake, everyone. I agree with you, but I don't care if it turns out for the best. There are other paths and ways of doing things. Kenny Godry is not a hallelujah movement.
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Starting point is 00:51:18 Anything less than that? Well, I don't know. I don't know kids prospect pools. So I want some kid off of, Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah, you could say maybe a second and an A prospect. Is that worth the first?
Starting point is 00:51:33 I don't know. Is it a B process for the second? It's worth the first, but I think it's something of that level because he's a very valuable asset for you for the next two years. No rush to get rid of him. He's way under what he should be making in terms of salary. It's a value deal.
Starting point is 00:51:45 But all those things mean he'd be very valuable to a contender. And he's right in his prime right now. I don't know where he's going to be in two years. But right now is the best Zach White Cloud we've seen. He's playing 24 and a half minutes. A showcase him? Here's what I'm, it's overreaction Monday. We overreact, right?
Starting point is 00:52:03 Is that up with Monday? I'm kind of motivational Monday, I thought. The guy has played 11 games with the flames. 11. Yeah. He's looked like the best D for most of that. He's averaging 23 minutes a night now over those 11 games, I think, is what it is. They had them out on three on three.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Come on, House. Last night, going in, so he played three on three. And maybe they're getting ready for the shootout. And all those guys in the bench, some guys are sitting or whatever. White Cloud's on his feet. He's got his arm around Kevin Ball, getting ready to watch the shootout. It's like, the guy seems to be fitting in pretty good. Got his arm around one of his teammates.
Starting point is 00:52:48 You had kind of said, who's he hanging with during the break? I don't know who he was. It's going to take something really sexy for me to move this guy. Yep, and it should. Because the way I, I'm getting some Giordano vibes from this guy. He's not as good as shit. But a guy who undrafted had to work his way up, played in the Canadian junior hockey, and then had to cut his teeth and then made it to the NHL and continued to play.
Starting point is 00:53:18 It was maybe always underappreciated, right? It's, she has a pretty high ceiling, but I see what you're saying. I'm just saying in this context, it's a guy who's had to. work for everything that he's got. There was no guarantee when he was 20 or 22 that he was going to be an NHLer. Yeah. But he got in, I think this guy. He's already part
Starting point is 00:53:40 of the room, I would expect. I think this guy could be your next captain after Bax has done. Yeah, I mean, his contract's up at the same time with Bax, but if you you're talking this way about him, you're resigning him. Bax isn't coming back. He'll be done. He'll be like, he'll be 40 probably, right?
Starting point is 00:54:01 Or you're just like, like this guy is an awesome player and we can move for a first in another couple of years when we continue to have more defensive and show up out of our system. I'll be the owner because I'm going to own the team one day. You guys give me your best keep trade or keep trade. I will give you, I'll pitch you for trade and you can pitch the keep. The pitch on a sale is that, Jack, you're my AGM.
Starting point is 00:54:27 Get your AGM head on. Okay. Fellas, the deadlines on Friday, and we are getting some very nice offers on Zach White Cloud. He is so much better than we imagined. He's not only hurting us in the standings and our own first round draft pick, but he might be slowing our rebuild by a matter of years. We move him now.
Starting point is 00:54:46 We're moving someone into 23 minutes a night that's probably not ready for it, be it be it Pahal, Prostevich, or Porek. That makes our pick better and gets a stud into our system sooner. we got to move this guy. Murray, I need you to have this guy go sit outside. If he thinks this guy, let's try to get along. I'm willing to listen to both sides. Let's,
Starting point is 00:55:07 it's a good debate. It's a good spot to be in, to be fair. Yeah, and there's because I'm with you, I think it's, it's going to take a first rounder for me to be like, yep, right shot. Because the second, it's like, well, there's no guarantees. We've flubbed on seconds seconds to come and go. I, yeah,
Starting point is 00:55:30 First rounder. Okay. We're going to, someone has come to the, who is it that's coming to the table? Say Dallas. It's Dallas. 27 first.
Starting point is 00:55:38 So you get the 27 first. Are you taking it? Are you taking it? Like you're like, the late first? Exactly. I am because that's where you're, I probably am.
Starting point is 00:55:51 Yeah. I'm not. But what's crazy is if it's a second and it's, it could be five, six picks difference and I'm probably, eh. Right. It is a late first.
Starting point is 00:55:59 But again, we also see some teams in that bottom 10. we were sure would have would have late first this time here they're not well the asset because you can trade the the first rounder it's everyone talks about all you need some leaders and they put weger and coleman and this guy's kind of the same thing potentially it's a let me warner headed to buffalo he's 29 years old right he's how old are you came to counter 27 it's like rat warner coming to This is the type of guy who is that leader. Western Canadian.
Starting point is 00:56:30 He's from here. He's happy about being here. He has family here. He's got a Stanley Cup ring. He's gone deep through playoff runs. He's got all of that experience that you covet and want. And he's cheapest chips. And I don't think the next thing is going to break the bank.
Starting point is 00:56:46 It's not even time to talk about the next deal. He's 29. It'll be 31 when this thing's over. Like it's Eon. You can't even talk extension for another 14 months. So here. What's the rush to trade them? This is why I think Uyghurs have much more.
Starting point is 00:57:03 If I'm Conroy, I'm peddling Uyghur over White Cloud. I hear what you're saying in terms of like if you had to pick one to work with for the remainder of the contract. I can't get a first shot next year. The flip side is you're not getting nearly as much for Uyghurs here on this guy right now. There's too much uncertainty with him. But I don't have to trade him today. I don't have to trade any of the way. I don't all.
Starting point is 00:57:24 I do think there's a bit of a logjam forming on the right because you want room for Perak and Bresdevich to play. Well, Prex got to play. And so maybe you can move Weger to the left and keep a lot of guys. But they seem really low to do it. And I don't know why. They played a ton on the left in Florida,
Starting point is 00:57:37 almost as a entire team. I think one year is a very important piece of their dressing room as part of it. I agree. Yeah, I think on the ice he's had a tough year. I agree. But I think he's a valuable guy in there. Yeah. And again,
Starting point is 00:57:50 it's like that deal that when you saw the return for Anderson, a lot of people were just like, huh. God, it looks good. But if you go to the first, the condition, the second, it could be another first. Weeb's one. I don't think the, the, sorry, I'm jumping on you, but I don't see. And it's easy to say after 11 games, Anderson or White Cloud.
Starting point is 00:58:10 Not a huge gap. At 10 million and three? I was texting something this morning. And I said, I wonder would Kelly undo it already now that he's had room? And Rasmus hasn't been a disaster. Rasmus is just been okay. Yeah, and they're not playing well. But they're not playing well.
Starting point is 00:58:24 It hasn't. Did not have a great Olympics, got healthy scratch twice. their record looks any different with Zach White Cloud probably not. Probably not. And you didn't trade him for this. If you want Rasmus to be an impact player
Starting point is 00:58:36 in a playoff series and help you win a cup, but they and Edmonton do not look right. I read a stat earlier today. Vegas has not beat a team in a playoff spot since November. They are not. Stowe left the game yesterday. I said this for all year. They don't
Starting point is 00:58:51 look like a team to me that I would be worried about playing. It was funny. When Jack, Jack texted our group yesterday, with the Penguinos. I was watching, I had the Penguins game on. They were playing Vegas.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And they got shut out. It was a 5-0. 5-0. They looked. Can I say this? Well, I can because I'm going to. I'm crazy. I don't hold back, Jack.
Starting point is 00:59:18 I'm crazy. Yeah, you're on Friday about this. Are there too many fat cats in Vegas? And by, oh, I don't want to play anywhere, but Vegas. Oh, life is good. This is really,
Starting point is 00:59:31 they did not look like Vegas last year against the Oilers. They don't look hungry. They were a team that was when you watched them win the cup and at their peak of the last five years, they bullied you, they beat you up, they hit you,
Starting point is 00:59:43 and they physically imposed their will on you. They don't do that right now. They did that to Florida the first time in the final. They beat the piss out of them. And that is a really hard way to play for a long time. Well, you've got to have the players too, and I think they've gone away from that a bit. Now Rasmus has got some bite to him.
Starting point is 01:00:04 He absolutely does, but he had more bite at 22 than 32. And so does that white cloud. You're not sending out a soft guy to bring in a tough guy. White Cloud's got some edge too, right? Now, put them sort of comparable in the edge department. They had. Trangelo.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Yeah, that probably, you don't know what those pieces mean in the dressing room as far as leadership stuff. Not nothing. But there's something to be said. If you look at that lineup and go, well, you've got a bunch of guys. guys that kind of this is great they chose to come here and they want to play for them yeah it's
Starting point is 01:00:33 pretty good he think it they also had really really good goal sending a couple years ago with hill and thompson and hill hasn't looked himself and thompson's been a stud in washington they've rolled the dice of carter heart they've also got a care shmade who hasn't panned out that uh nutty guy from buffalo who i shouldn't yeah yeah but uh the snake a snake a snake ring lennar yes Robin Lanner. Schmid's 25, to be determined, I guess, but he's about, he might be on waivers and someone else might get him before he's good, but Aiden's Hill,
Starting point is 01:01:03 Aiden Hill, sorry, his contract, six and a quarter just kicked in. Doesn't have been good. She hasn't been good. That's goalie, you know, there's some good guys that aren't having good years. Petrangelo is 36, hasn't played, may not play again. I thought he's done. I thought they said he was cooked, yeah. They're saying that, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:01:18 He had one more year in his contract. I was just looking at this. If they don't sign RAS was, do they have to sign RAS was, do they have to sign Rasmus? They've got Shade Theodore. Rasmus doesn't have to sign. Theodore's 30. He's got five years left, six years left.
Starting point is 01:01:33 Noah Hannifan's 29. He's got a bunch of years left. Braden McNabb, 35. He's got two more years. That's what they have. Caden Corsack is, he's signed at 25. Their D is not imposing. It used to be.
Starting point is 01:01:47 It's not a murderer's row. And yeah, it's Eichel, Marner, Hurdle, Stone. Hurdle to me, and again, I'm not. You want more. Yes. When you see the size of them and the skill set, you're like, I either want you to score a 10 or to be more physical.
Starting point is 01:02:05 It's all the tools. Those top three names, you should be like, yeah, they're all 100 point plus. If you tell me you got Eichel, Marr and hurdle, I'm like, geez, like, that's a murder's row. You could start that line in the Olympics. Then you've got Stone as well, and who else? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:19 Stone. Like Dorofiav is a good. young players. He's been really good in the power play. Scored us a ton. Barbashev's 30. Nice pickup from St.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Louis a few years ago. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, it was just coming back to White Cloud. It's, it already looks like a tremendous deal for the flames. Never mind to what Red alluded to.
Starting point is 01:02:39 If Rasmus was like, oh yeah, we're going to get one done. We got to wait till Petrangelo's contracts unloaded. So we have this room to get under the tagging for the office. We'll just wait.
Starting point is 01:02:46 We got it in the drawer. And he's like, well, hang on. Are we not good? Because I still can go to free agency. Then you've really won the deal. Because for a rental
Starting point is 01:02:54 to get White Cloud plus a first, plus a second. And this kid, Weeb three weeks in a row is one defenseman of the week in his conference. He looks like a very good pro on the way. And with White Cloud, like I said, it's 11 games, so that's way premature. And there was a break in there. So the games in California is coming after a two-week break. Let's see 60-70 games of 23 minutes a night
Starting point is 01:03:16 and see how you're holding up. Whoa, whoa, whoa. But I have no problem. seen with what I've seen from this guy. But you did not trade for him to be a 24 minute a night defense. He makes 2.7 fine, but does he not? Like you're talking about he's supposed to be a 5-6. So let's So even if he drops back into the
Starting point is 01:03:33 5-6. If he was a free agent this summer and the deadline was last week and he's okay, he's not getting moved, he's going right to. What's the offer for him? 29 years old. He's going to have to have a good. Like he's getting 5 plus no sweat? Yeah. It should be
Starting point is 01:03:49 Kevin Ball money. Totally. And like you've got him locked in at half that for two more years. Two more years. That's theft. I think he's great because it's odd too because we're sitting a gazillion miles away from Saddle Don't Rise Way. But we're all assuming that this guy's wonder, but it does feel that way. It feels like he's engaging. It feels like he's a good teammate.
Starting point is 01:04:16 It feels like he's happy. It feels like he works hard. Like there's a good. it feels like a good gel but he's played 11 games yeah like I don't know what is he playing at ceiling and has to come back for minutes I'd suggest that
Starting point is 01:04:32 but I mean you just can't help it like what you've seen you can't control anything but what you've seen and you've loved it yeah the the Anderson extension does not feel like a slam dunk unless it's going to come in at three to four times this number
Starting point is 01:04:53 Yeah, but he's just saying If you're Rasmus Anderson, yeah, the intention was, oh yeah, I'm going to go to Vegas, we're going to be good, we're going to, and they still might go on a run, but they don't look like a tough. And I'm not saying, oh, he's coming back to Calgary. It's just everything felt like, well, of course it's Vegas, and of course he's going to be great.
Starting point is 01:05:12 And of course there's an extension. All of that. To a certain extent. Like Rasmus is a different cat too. He doesn't care. Are you loving it there? Not yet. But again, we'll measure them in the sports.
Starting point is 01:05:25 ring. Yep. If they, and again, that Pacific division, like, if you're Vegas, who are you playing in round one? Like, Anaheim, Seattle, like, Utah, can't come to the Pacific. They could be a wildcard. Yeah, sorry. But you could face the team in the central and the wildcard. Like, it's, well, you don't even have to be that good to win around. Do you think they win that division? Anaheim has them by points percentage right now, and I kind of like the mojo of the ducks have. I would look up the odds today at 365, to be honest. If I can get the ducks to win the division. Now, we'll move on and we got the PIN report.
Starting point is 01:05:59 There are some people. There are some people that, you know, there's some that are talkers and there's some that are doers. There's some people they talk a good game. And there's some other people who they just let their actions do the talking for them. It's not that long ago we sat in here and we said, you know what? The T-bone steak. We were sleeping on the T-bone. Everybody's loving the rib-eye and all these.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Bragging up all these other cuts. We saw Greg Keller from Bontan Meets. He was out at his little spot there. He's looking at this. He's cooking a steak right on the open fire, on the grill, like in the wood smoke and all that. That's awesome. Is that a T-bone steak?
Starting point is 01:06:44 Wow. When the butcher, when the owner-propriator of the best meat store in the world is throwing a T-bone down, maybe there's something right we're smart pick up on people the greats yeah they know what they're doing
Starting point is 01:06:58 maybe we should start thinking about having rib or maybe grip I love you but maybe we start this T-bone thing it's a classic right everybody wants T-bone steak right you see in cartoons and that
Starting point is 01:07:10 what a dog look at the T-bone look at Rhett Warner he's a talker but he's also a doer wow this was on your plate that thing was phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yesterday. Where was that? It was delicious. I don't know how you had time because, I mean, that's the first bite, I think. No, I wanted to make sure people understood I didn't overcook it. You don't want to dry that out. Well, I wanted to ask, is that where you're, because if anything, it looks like it's maybe close to the medium, hinky.
Starting point is 01:07:41 It's not. It was, it was, remember. It's the outside, the outskirts. That's the ball. Yeah. You get closer to the inside there. It was. On the outskirts.
Starting point is 01:07:52 It's a town there, sort of. We're just kind of getting inside. And to be quite on the limits. You're down at DeWinton there, Dean. That's right. It was awesome. And I found this meat. By the time you get to the belt line there.
Starting point is 01:08:05 Oh, God. Oh, man. She's medium rare, buddy. It's here into the entertainment district there with the new rank. Bontonmeatmarket.com. Proud to Calgary, Southern Alberta, Consumers Choice Award winner for Best Meat and Deli for 26 consecutive years. They've been in stores, salads and desserts.
Starting point is 01:08:19 And of course, the meat pies. Oh, Mama. I would destroy meat pies right now. AAA Alberta beef, locally raised fresh pork. You know what the other thing is? Because I was telling me about these chickens. It's from like local farmers.
Starting point is 01:08:34 The chicken is unbelievable. He's brilliant. It's all the story is perfect. It's all it's here. It's Alberta beef. That farmer does this and the lamb's coming from that farm just over there. Bonton meat market. Ret Warner.
Starting point is 01:08:50 Doer. That's what I do. I eat. Not today. What about T-bone steaks? What about the T-bone? Don't neglect the T-bone. Not T-bone neglect.
Starting point is 01:09:01 I'm 98% of the time, like a salt and pepper, maybe some Saskatchewan black and seasoning. Yeah. That was a, what's the name? A carnival, meat carnivore,
Starting point is 01:09:15 hardcore carnivore, barbecue rub. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm going right back to it. I said you switch gears. You're, happy because it was awesome and the kid who is a food snob had a taste he goes let's put that on
Starting point is 01:09:31 the next one where he got it let's throw that on how he got to be that way it's weird what's this dad this is my favorite meal we're gonna let's remember this is this is my number one go buy a teabone you fools fools almost the chicken you know there's big chickens I want to go through you know what we need to do would need to do like a PowerPoint or something with Greg. It's like, okay, so tell me about, so where are we get, where's it all coming from? Kind of like a good blade roast. Where is that coming from? What about the tenderloins?
Starting point is 01:10:04 Where are we getting the, yeah. On a map maybe, the show you on a map. Yeah. There was there where the exact bloody ranches that thing came from. So on the, on the thing. Okay, so right by the shoulders. Okay, so where are my Towers? Okay, right in there.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, yeah. Oh, the cow. Yeah. not Alberta because you're saying it's all local it is. Yeah. That cow also. Yeah. That's great. It's all that's out from your, yeah. Now that the meat's here.
Starting point is 01:10:30 Right. How do you make that cat? This delicious thing that I'm having, whereabouts is it on that guy right there. And teas and peas to that guy. What a sacrifice he's made for all of us to be so happy. Deleicious. If only others in my life made me as happy as that dead cow did. You know?
Starting point is 01:10:47 Your live dogs and dead cows are making everyone real happy. Yeah. Bringing such joy in my house. at least to me. Yeah. Yeah. That's how that goes. And it was good, obviously. It was phenomenal.
Starting point is 01:10:58 Was there any kind of a carbohydrate on that plate? I didn't see a lot of surface area being taken up by anything green or hot sauce in the background there. Nope. Wasn't used. Just meat. I don't even know. Moodivore. And I didn't make anyone else anything either.
Starting point is 01:11:15 That was for me and me alone. Steak for one. Good stuff. How would that go over at, uh, Shee boom. Not great. A steak for one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Ha? No. Where's mine? What are you talking about? I read an article the other day that we're the last great generation, Dean. Yeah. Our kids are our age group. What about Jack?
Starting point is 01:11:35 Oh, he's already screwed. Yeah. He's done on screen. Dead was weird. Yeah. Yeah. He's toast. Look at him.
Starting point is 01:11:41 Can we sneak him into our generation or is he too? He's 27 and lost. He doesn't understand. Like, oh. Even with our guidance. Yeah, even with us telling him to read. Years of guidance. How many chapters you get done this weekend, Jack?
Starting point is 01:11:54 None. It's so busy. So busy. If you didn't read, I feel like there's no point going to the book club. No, probably not. I think it's a great point to remind people how lost this generation is. Damn it, Jack. You know, why were they?
Starting point is 01:12:12 Why did they say that right? Why? They say it's because of screens and parents. It's the first generation that's recording lower. intellectual quotations They've never Dealt with anything on their own And if you want to come to my house
Starting point is 01:12:27 It is banged up Ditto My kid had to have his Get reamed out on the way to the rink yesterday And on the during the reaming Because he wasn't ready to go Because God forbid you've got all day I realized that
Starting point is 01:12:45 This kid This sport this rink, this conversation. It's done this before. All happened within this last month. It was an absolute re, you know, the deja vu? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:03 It wasn't a deja vu, but it was the same damn thing. Yeah. I want to do something right now, and then we'll get to the Pind Report. I want to recreate a conversation that I had with one of my children. I will tell you who it was on Saturday morning. And to do this, I will take off my glasses.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Oh, okay. Which is due serve. It's obviously, it's so I can see, but I'll put them on just because you don't need to see me dabbing at my eyes for it. It snowed Friday afternoon late into Friday evening. Heavy snow? We had enough snow. It was a fair bit. So Saturday morning, one of them was instructed to go out and shovel.
Starting point is 01:13:46 So from our front door, there's the walk, which goes to the driveway and then the sidewalk. Pretty standard fare. Your front walk onto the driveway and then sidewalk where other people will go. The front walk, it was kind of half done. It was just kind of. There was a lane. Yeah, there was. Kind of.
Starting point is 01:14:09 Couldn't pass. Yeah, it just, it was kind of half done. I should have taken a photo. the driveway, it was just kind of walk to one side, walk to the other, walk to there. So there's like little strips and bands of snow that's still. It's a half-ass job there. Yeah. And the sidewalk that was where the driveway was, it was kind of done, but nothing in front of our lawn or which you have to do.
Starting point is 01:14:32 That's part of your product. Yeah. So it's full of snow and all of that. So I took a peek just to see how the job was. And clearly it was not done well. Correct. So I, this was the conversation. I called him or her, whoever, to the door.
Starting point is 01:14:51 I said, hey, you all come here for a sec. So he or she came and stood beside me and I just kind of opened the door. And this was the conversation we had. Yeah, okay, I'll go. Okay, I'll, okay, I'll go to it. Not hard. So I didn't have to say a word. No, they knew.
Starting point is 01:15:26 For him to understand, yeah, it probably does. Not done well, is it? No. But at the time he was doing it, that's suffice. That's probably good enough. This would cut it up my desk. That's done with. And you're like, am I that bad of a parent?
Starting point is 01:15:48 I try so hard. And then when put to the test, we can't even push snow off of a sidewalk with a shovel. And probably a decade of practice, no matter which of these unnamed children it is. Like a decade, you've been pushing snow. So there's the physical aspect.
Starting point is 01:16:09 You can do it, but you kind of couldn't do it, didn't do it. And then it's, eh, that's good enough, I guess. Caring is so hard, Jack. And then it's brought to the attention.
Starting point is 01:16:20 Like, yeah, that's probably not good enough. See your point, Dad. I go ahead and do that again. I'm glad that you made them do it instead of you picking up the slag. Well, there was a thought. Do I get into the conflict, the confrontation, or do I just go and do it?
Starting point is 01:16:40 That's the problem is that we're doers. That kid's going to live in my house forever. Why do I do anything? They're going to just do it if I don't. I'm not envious of your, you know, when you turn 18, you're getting evicted talk. You can have that talk too. I don't see it happening for anyone that's already too late for one. like any of the people in my house you're the landlord you can make the rules i wish i
Starting point is 01:17:00 wish i could have proof the eviction notices that might be easy i go it might be easier got a coach you in marteloup it's mow the lawn yes i make them of the lawn actually oddly enough yesterday was outside playing with the dog yeah yeah uh and uh was like these idiot kids of mine should be making up some flyers and putting them in the neighbor's door saying love to take care of your on this summer spring doers let me know if you're interested jack i'll tell you what it's not pretty because it ends up looking the same as the driveway in the front walk oddly enough so did you not so you see you missed some like there's a whole pass here i have i have a variance the oldest kid it's been drilled into him from my good buddy out at the z ranch yeah
Starting point is 01:17:55 got it's got to look good and he takes great pride like tight has it looking tight the other kid you wouldn't know it was yeah yeah so the long grass alongside the fence did you think that's not part of the lawn dad there's a thing it's called a whipper snipper it's sitting right there well yeah both again i got to do both you have that same conversation you just got well you know the answer but you're just choosing not to do it you're not fooling anyone Ryan back to you
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Starting point is 01:18:53 if you agree on a deal they'll pay you in 24 hours and that'll teach that Dumbass kid with the shovel. I hope so. Is that all it takes? They'll do whatever it takes. Oh, Chonda. How you like taking the bus?
Starting point is 01:19:06 Thanks, Anthony. Let's go to Flames Nation. What's going on over there? I'll have something. Well, look at this. Offense remains a goal behind. This coolly steals a point in Anaheim. That's an accurate headline from Mole Flash.
Starting point is 01:19:22 Also, if you are wondering what rumors are circulating around the Calgary Flames, Ryan Pike's done a wonderful job of a, summary of all the rumors around the NHL water cooler's. Pike, all over it. And then on the weekend, we heard this from Eric Francis, which is not surprised, but nice to hear from a guy like Francis, who's well attached.
Starting point is 01:19:40 We always thought, okay, well, the next World Cup is going to be 28. You have a brand new building in Calgary. World-class city. World-class facility at the time. Play soccer in the horse. Potentially, a host city for the 28. hockey World Cup It's less worldly
Starting point is 01:20:02 But yeah I would Yeah I'm into that Hell yeah I mean Doesn't it kind of copycatty To call it to World Cup I want it here
Starting point is 01:20:13 Absolutely 96 is the World Cup It was a much year all They lost to the Americans I would rather call it the Canada Cup Everyone's gunning for us anyway Who cares I don't think Gary likes the name
Starting point is 01:20:22 As much as me do Yeah I'm with you Check the video replay Gary Well we did Just last couple weeks have been tough. I think some people might say. Okay, so not Canada Cup, but World Cup is a football or soccer event. Can't we come up?
Starting point is 01:20:39 It's everything. Rugby's got one, cricket's got one. There's World Cup. But you're right. If you said World Cup, first thing comes to mind is soccer. I get that. It's the largest sporting event on Earth. It's bigger than the Summer Olympics.
Starting point is 01:20:54 I'm excited for more best on best. And yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, please, yes. Are you sure? Oh, God, yeah. phenomenal. What about the Olympics? I would love to the Olympics category, yes.
Starting point is 01:21:05 If you could. It's not what you said last. It's not what you were saying before. Because they wanted to not have any legacy items. Vancouver got a sea to sky highway and a bloody sky train to the airport. And they were like, yeah,
Starting point is 01:21:16 well put some lipstick on the Narcue Lodge. Like, no. 88 left a legacy for 40 years in the city. That bid sucked. And it sucked that it sucked. Because a good one would have really done a lot of good. It didn't even have a new building. adds to it. Olympic bid
Starting point is 01:21:34 committee. Get them involved. Don't talk to me. Talk to our boy, Andy. He knows how to get these things down. Let's go. Next. Thank you, Pike, for that. Thank you, Eric Francis. Thanks. Ducks again. Last night, not the first time.
Starting point is 01:21:50 In fact, it's all they've done since coming back from the Olympics. Three straight third period comeback wins. It's weird we can say Olympics now. But we couldn't. Are we allowed? You can say the word. They just didn't want graphics being up.
Starting point is 01:22:03 There's the confusion. Oh, they didn't want this guy's disappointed. Well, they're in the back. He'll know. That's right. Radco knows. He knows. He was good at the, uh, the winter Sochi,
Starting point is 01:22:13 Milano 26 Cortina Turins. Right? Eh. Yeah. He's together. Took sit out though. Costless, maybe cost us gold medal.
Starting point is 01:22:22 A jerk right there. That ball of muck. Jack took out your boy. Ducks look good, fellas. And I don't see them doing anything but getting better. like this team in the next three years. Leo Carlson looks like an absolute megastud. Seneca's scoring like crazy.
Starting point is 01:22:39 Cutter Goce's fell in the net. Roger McQueen hasn't arrived yet. This is a good team. How does Roger McQueen do it? Providence? Put them numbers. Can I ask you, Rhett? I know you've had your owner's hat on. And I know this is the Pinder report,
Starting point is 01:22:51 but I meant to bring it up earlier. And I am, uh, I'd be remiss if I didn't go get it. Remiss. Uh, you've talked about, you know, old crotchety coaches and stuff. off, maybe back, trying to shoot from a bad angle. Keep the puck. It's not a scoring. The skill has maybe changing.
Starting point is 01:23:10 Back at Seneca, in the shootout, did the between the legs play, which I would think torts would have hated it. Oh, torts would have been. There would be many coach, bruh, we would have been upset about it. I don't know how Q felt about it. But how did you think anything of it at the time? I did. And I think I'm okay with it now.
Starting point is 01:23:33 I like your position. I thought Kula made a really good save. Like that thing looked like it was late. All of what you said is true. When the old days, you're like, what are you doing? We're in a shootout. This is important. This isn't after practice.
Starting point is 01:23:46 But nowadays, those kids do it so often and so well, that is just stick handling to them. Because I was watching because I wanted to say, oh, through the legs, how does that play? And there seemed to be no reaction. It's all like, oh, I can't believe you did it. The coach, there was no. no reaction to us. Like, oh, maybe that's, maybe we've arrived at the place where trying to, trying something high level skill.
Starting point is 01:24:08 I had tried that with my wood stick. I'd have tripped myself and face planted into the boards. First of all, I would have been out there. But these guys did it and it looked. It wasn't a, uh, right? Like, I think he was the right guy too.
Starting point is 01:24:23 Like, he's old school, but he's been very progressive. He loves offense. Look at those Chicago teams. Like, he wasn't trying to lock things down. He was trying to score another. and you had Kane, you had some hiding guys there. Like, I love him with this group. I don't think he cares.
Starting point is 01:24:38 I think there's still guys in the league that would growl at you. Like, I don't know if Rick Tock it would love that. Well, there would. Yeah, there would be. Quintville, no way. Love Q. But I kind of, I'm with you. I think he's, he had as much of a chance to score on that as a deek or anything else
Starting point is 01:24:51 that he may have done because they're so good at it. This is, they practice that as much as they would practice a backhand. I bet now in practices and when they're effing around. And we used to see it when that started the tweener, just sort of flubbed them a bit. They're zipping them now. They're snapping them in that tweener. Like you can go bar down.
Starting point is 01:25:06 Was it Merrick Malik? Yeah. The old D-Man and Rangers, round 14 to the shooter. He didn't trip himself. That was pretty awesome. I heard a story about Eric Malik. Can't get replaced.
Starting point is 01:25:16 Can't share it here. That's a good one for this. I heard it's at Walker's wedding, which was inappropriate there. And if it's inappropriate here, it was definitely inappropriate for a wedding. Back to me, Dean. Back to you, right.
Starting point is 01:25:26 Let's take a look at the athletics trade board where we are now four sleeps away. Why don't we make our own? Sure. That's your homework project. Bringing your trade board for tomorrow. Arch AI. Viti Trocheck, number one, that makes a lot of sense.
Starting point is 01:25:39 Top center that you feel like is going to get moved. The Rangers are brutal. He had a great Olympics in terms of the penalty killing of the defensive side of the puck. He's a good player. Conray was smart. What he would do is fold the Rangers and said, can you move this guy? So that I can. Jury, I'll give you a free fifth.
Starting point is 01:25:54 Just get this done before Wednesday. Yes. Future. Let's go. Let's go. Well, he first phone, I was like, oh, hey, hey, Chris, it's Connie. Hey, hey, hey, buddy, how are I? Hey.
Starting point is 01:26:05 USA. Oh, Connie. How could you? I know, right. I know. Codry, too, on the list. He's also a center. Rob Thomas is not like the other ones on in the center aisle, do you know?
Starting point is 01:26:22 Braden Shenz 34. Viti Trochecks 32. Ryan O'Reilly's 36. Cadry's 35. Rob Thomas is 26. I saw Elliot on the weekend saying much the same thing, that this is younger player, with term, all of that. Bigger cost for sure.
Starting point is 01:26:41 Huge. Thought that it's probably unlikely this is going to get done. Elliot's notion seemed to be in the weekend. It feels like one that may get done. Now, when we talked about it with L.A. last week, when you have the chance to make that Panarin deal, the standings are almost irrelevant. You got them at a number, short term.
Starting point is 01:26:58 You didn't have to give up much. Do you feel the same way about Rob Thomas who's got five years left? There's my deep thought on Rob Thomas. What the hell's going on in St. Louis that you're trading a guy like that? And I mean that. I agree.
Starting point is 01:27:11 If the coach is no good and the coach is a pain in the ass, that's an easy fix. We've heard Kyra's name. We've heard Shen's name for a couple of years. What is going on in the dressing room in St. Louis? That what? It's great to say, oh, well, we're no good.
Starting point is 01:27:27 A 26-year-old centerman. Yeah. At 8.125. Yeah. One of the best passers in the NHL. Yeah. With five years left. Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:37 And it puts up. He's six foot. 207. He's a center. So should Conroy be? Right. Should Conroy be in? Yes.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Absolutely. In their beer hole? I think so. Yep. I don't under. But it doesn't make sense to me. I agree with you. It doesn't pass the sniff test.
Starting point is 01:27:57 Look at the help. Doesn't make sense. That you snissed my dog. Got it. His last four full seasons. Look at the assist totals. 57, 47, 60, 60. 20th overall in 2017.
Starting point is 01:28:11 And all he kind of does is get you in the neighbor. Yeah, like it's. If you get 65 to 85. Like he would immediately become the flames number one. Even if Cadre is still here. He'd become a lot of teams first. Number one center. I just don't.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Something's not... Now, I also read that Armstrong wants three first half of the first round assets. He wants something close to the Quinn Hughes deal. And I like Robert Thomas a lot.
Starting point is 01:28:41 I have Quinn Hughes a tier of. Oh, yeah. So that's why I wonder if it even happens. Because Doug Armstrong is like, look at all these tantalizing names. I'm going to dangle year after year after year. And they never move. Two Memorial Cup championships.
Starting point is 01:28:55 Or maybe OHL. How many times did we hear about Braden Shen getting moved in the last couple of years? Yeah. It still hasn't happened. This one's different, though. He's 26. Yeah, yeah, I agree. This is the guy you would not expect to be available.
Starting point is 01:29:09 Oh, he's in his prime, and the cap's going to skyrocket, and he's locked in the next five years. And he's basically an 80-point player. He's already played 500 games. Yes, please. And won a cup. Thomas is on that list. We'll see if it happens or not. Let's get back to the athletic trade board.
Starting point is 01:29:26 What's the deal? What's the deal? Now again, everybody's for sale. Falk, apparently they want the Rasm Sanderson deal. Only problem with that is I don't think Fawkes is getting to Rasm Sampians. Except white clouds already here, buddy. Suck it. Tyler Myers almost got traded to Detroit.
Starting point is 01:29:46 He has not waived. He has no movement protection. Shirk. Detroit's a great town. And we'll see if he does wave. The question right now is, is the deal still on the. the table from Detroit. Of course it is. And it takes up anyone else.
Starting point is 01:30:00 Well, yeah. When did they pivot? And when does Tyler Myers say, well, is he worth getting? Depends what you're looking for. I believe he's, like he's a right shot, second or third pair guy, probably best on the third. And if you're Dallas, like, you're starving for right shot. You have been saying it for weeks. Detroit's probably got a similar sort of spot, but it's only three million. That next year, that's peanuts.
Starting point is 01:30:22 That could be as much of what it is as I don't want to go to Detroit, it's what might develop in the next five days. I think that's what it is. Because Detroit's only option. This is from Dallas, because if Detroit, you know, Detroit, I'm also happy in Vancouver,
Starting point is 01:30:38 but you know, Detroit's okay, but boy. Are you happy in Vancouver? I do like, uh, I do like Dallas. Sir. Hey, Mr. Agent is there is, uh, well, of course, we can't talk because that'd be tampering. Of course, Tyler, you know that.
Starting point is 01:30:51 Uh, yeah, cut the shit, Bob. Uh, is there a chance about, uh, yes, there's a chance they need right shot to me. Bob. It's a desperate. You don't even tell you, right? You go to Patrick Alvin and say, look, like, I'll wave to Detroit, but I first want to know that you can't get the same offer from Dallas.
Starting point is 01:31:04 Go get that. Talk to me in a week. I saw. No. Back to you, Ryan. Close. I was checking yourself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:26 You might not need to trade them. You can get right off this list now. Can you be on this list when no one wants? You might want him depending on what's stapled to him, like a second round or a first. I'd take Andrew Magic Penny with a second and first. Not giving up anything for him. That would be great. I'm like Stan Bowman.
Starting point is 01:31:42 Hey, Stan, it's Craig. Hey, Craig. USA. We love Mange down here. Great flying. Really? It's not been a great oiler. We got all kinds of caps space.
Starting point is 01:31:58 You don't, though, eh? Are you up tight on it? Yeah. Got a first rounder kicking around or anywhere. You do. You do. What are you talking about, Craig? I just don't think of spitball, you know?
Starting point is 01:32:09 Yeah. That could be a good pick. So you'd give us a first for Andrew, Mandra Panny? Uh, no, no. So here's the thing. It'd be a, uh, you want us to send you a first. Hey, listen, we did something similar with Sean Monaghan.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Yeah. And we think it worked out great for us. Open up a lot of caps space. Monaghan's playing well. It worked out great. Mm-hmm. Might be a save scenario for you. My lunch.
Starting point is 01:32:34 Yes. Hello. Stan? Hello? What do they need up north? Not a goalie. Nothing. Not a goalie if you ask them.
Starting point is 01:32:45 Not a goalie. Not a goalie. Evander Cain's going to move. Maybe we'll see. They scored 10 goals in three games. He's got 17 goals in three games. 17, Dean. 17 goals in three games.
Starting point is 01:33:04 Oh, gosh. Fuck, it's so good. It is amazing. And Leon took another run at everyone's play. It's just eventually we're going to need some saves. Stammer on the list. O.E. all on the list.
Starting point is 01:33:19 I don't think Nashville's moving anyone, boys. They're two points out of a playoff spot. They've got a new owner. It's Trots is last year GM. I'm not surprised if they hold their cards. They're going to add. It could. Ryan O'Reilly is 35, one year left at four and a half.
Starting point is 01:33:34 You keep them for the run this year. You can always move in the offseason or next year if it's not going well. That one's the interesting one to me. I said it on Friday. He's got 21 goals wherever. He's had a great season. He's like,
Starting point is 01:33:46 I don't really want to go anywhere. Well, that's great. But if we can get a significant haul. I think there's too many of similar type players. Codry, Trocheck, who was there was one more, I thought. Yeah, those are the three. Thomas is 10 years younger than him or nine. But like the three veteran elder statesman two Cs,
Starting point is 01:34:07 I think it's O'Reilly, Trocheque and Cadre. And if you're Craig Conrad, you probably have to do a bit of waiting while we figure out if Nashville's going to move on O'Reilly and where Trocheck is going to go because I think you will get moved by the Rangers. You're the season tickets holders a letter. He may as well trade this guy. There's a rest of your trade list. Okay. Keep moving. It's a busy week for the Calgary Flames.
Starting point is 01:34:35 They just finished the California road swing and we were into March the schedule. pinch is at its season high. This week, Dallas, Ottawa, and the Cains. That's old friends for Chris Russell, Curtis Lazar, and Mike Commodore. Didn't need to do that, but I just thought, I saw coming in the weekend. He got noticed on the show last week. Did you guys hear that? Yeah, he got, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Said some things. Well, show's pretty big. Yeah. Yeah, I hope you guys got some clicks on of that. Geez. Keep moving. Here's March. It is Ramrod.
Starting point is 01:35:13 Like we're talking 16 games in 30 days. There was some suggestions like, Commodore has these been missing form. But then I say, well, it's not like maybe there was something to it where. So before you go hammering our buddy commie. Everyone said Tommy was so wrong about Mike Babcock. And seven years later,
Starting point is 01:35:35 everyone said, Mike Commodore was absolutely right on Mike Babcock. I was critical of Scott Arneill. Yeah, he's not in the Scott Arneal, can I? It's not ride or die with him. And I think his info here was probably more correct than some. I'm not that he would make something like that. Yeah, he wouldn't make that up.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Why would you make that up? Five game road trip is coming up after this three-game homestand. And then a six-game homestand. I'm going to be here for the six-game homestand. I don't know what the road trip. This three-gamer, actually, I'm going to be here for two. A lot of hockey, red. Look at that.
Starting point is 01:36:05 Every other day with a back-to-back in there. Oh, ho. Top play. Sloppish. I like those 5 o'clock starts, team. Yeah. That's a good week next week. You're like 5 p.m. starts.
Starting point is 01:36:19 That's the road trip for you, boys. Bottom 10. We showed you earlier. Flames fifth from the bottom. Come on, fellas. Winnipeg, you're embarrassing yourselves. Get going, Hella, Hullabuck. Take that fancy presidential medal.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Put it away. You can look at it in the summer. Can't play with those two medals on your chest. Very hard to play. They're clanging around. They're dinging each. other up. You're worried with them getting scratched. Take them off. Focus on the Jets. Let's go. Last night's action. Did have some games. Jack's
Starting point is 01:36:47 Penguinos look very good. Very good. Tough loss. Two and one without Crosby. That's not bad. Two all in one. Thank you. The loss came in overtime. It was to the Rangers who suck, but they did get a point to Jets. Shootout, not overtime. Sorry, beyond regulation, Jack. Thank you. Chicago. Blank the Utes. That's a tough. Rough loss at home for the Mahmout. Chicago, keep it moving.
Starting point is 01:37:12 Better get some deals done there, Ryan Smith. You want to make the playoffs, don't you? Nah, that's the other Armstrong. That's right. I'm there. Jets get a point, but only one in San Jose. Johnny Armstrong? We're up with him at Frontier.
Starting point is 01:37:28 Michael Mesa, the overtime winner. He's very good. You forget that he's even there. There's so many guys there. He says, it was my first ever shift in an overtime, so I thought I should do something. Good idea, Michael. That's how you get more overtime shifts.
Starting point is 01:37:42 His brother Luke is a flames draft pick playing in college. There you go. St. Louis, they got a win. Look at that blues. All right. Nothing wrong with the room. They heard Brett Warner. They said, screw that.
Starting point is 01:37:52 We're a great team. Wild lost a pair on the weekend. Don't think it's huge concern. It did be Colorado, though. That's why they lost a pair. They were all pumped up. Colorado was the first of a back-to-back. They lost the second half.
Starting point is 01:38:05 Then they lost the blues. They're waiting for Vinny Trocheck, eh? They'll get pumped up. What it is? You know, Pilgrant likes it. Florida. Losers on Long Island. More on this game in a moment.
Starting point is 01:38:17 And we told you a lot about the Ducks and the Flames. Three points awarded two to the ducks. Their third consecutive third period comeback victory. Let's get to last night. In fact, news of the weekend before last night. New coach. New coach in L.A. Jim Hiller.
Starting point is 01:38:31 See ya. DJ Smith. D.J. Smith. Pumping the hits. he'll be behind the bench in an interim basis for the rest of the year. Apparently Kenhall does not make coaches changes in season. No, should have done it last summer then
Starting point is 01:38:47 because this wasn't going to work. I was new on the scene. Oh, giving a show, I guess. No. Mistakes in that series and Matt Green will join the bench. You're getting Matt Green notes for us, retro. Nope. Guys love Matt Green.
Starting point is 01:39:01 Do they again? He was beloved in the Euler room. Loved him. with the Blue Jays, great center fielder. He was, uh, the Dodgers, North Dakota alum, much like Mike Commodore. That was that great trade. Green and stole to the kings for Lubo Visnovsky.
Starting point is 01:39:23 So the Oilers finally had that puck moving D man they needed. And there was like, ooh, green and stole were kind of leaders, big port guys. What about Loubo though? Everyone's, well, Louvrevisnowski. Everyone's heartbroken. The green and stole are gone. But Viznovsky, uh, Stoll took care of Rafi Torres.
Starting point is 01:39:41 Now he's just, oh dear. I was just running amok. We get Stoll back. Stoll, most L.A. gets married to. Mm-hmm. He's doing all right. He's got a rough go in Vegas that one time. He's got a golden retriever, living in L.A.,
Starting point is 01:39:58 Aaron Andrews, life's good. It's doing the King's Intermissions, if you want to see him. Yeah. It's from Yorkton, Saskatchewan. He's done okay. It's a great guy. Other news? I was talking with him.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Just my quick year at Stoll story. He was already with the Kings. This is the one year I was up in Emmington near the end of the season. That press thing in the old barn. Yeah, great spot. Huge, like the press box isn't a press box. It's like a huge catwalk
Starting point is 01:40:29 that just circles the whole thing. Kind of like Cadbury, right? So Stoll is at the one end. He's watching injured, but he's on the road. And we're just going to shoot the shit. It's like, well, kind of bummer to miss some play. I'll just talk about no playoffs. Like, well, we fly home tonight after this tomorrow I'll wake up and grab a cup of coffee
Starting point is 01:40:53 and sit in my patio and look out in the water and things are going to probably be okay. It'll be all right. Yeah, you're going to put your feet in the sand. I said, you know what? You are going to be just fine, aren't you? Yeah. So I'm going to be okay. Don't take this too hard.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I love winning, but, you know. If I'm not winning. I may as well be staring at the ocean. On the beach. I'm not winning if I'm not. You're staring at the mountains, I'm sure. All of them are. You're always winning.
Starting point is 01:41:21 Mountain near. Your winner. Tea bones and mountains. Yep. And dogs. Dogs, yeah. Old friend, Andrew Medj, Panney, finds himself available to any team in the NHL for the price of free as he has been placed on waivers by
Starting point is 01:41:35 Savant General Manager Stan Bowman, who gave him a $7.2 million dollar two-year deal this summer. What's just a couple months ago then? Not many months ago. That's correct. Oh. That went so. They just signed him.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Yeah. This is year one of the two-year deal. And 3.6 isn't a lot, but it's a lot for what he's kind of been doing. And it's a lot for a team that's right up against the cap and wants to improve their roster. Wow, but they needed depth at scoring. Because at the start, you know what, he's going to play with Leon. And when you play with Leon, you're going to score some goals.
Starting point is 01:42:15 He might score 30. It's a good start. He might score 40. He's got seven in 52 games. And I think most of it was seven are in the first. And if looking here, a, uh, how's the green jacket? A team worst minus 19. Son of a con.
Starting point is 01:42:34 19. 12 was the, uh, about 12 and a half minutes a night. You got to do some work in 12. and a half to get to dash 19 you got to be efficient playing that much probably not playing with Leon anymore are you scored a hell of a goal on Ottinger Utter they'll never take that away from him or from us thanks manj is like game seven yeah tied up to San Jose is a big goal Coleman
Starting point is 01:43:03 Mange Ristler just over the blue line we're never going to score nottinger again on your zing oh ho ho ho we got life he's 29 Rett turning 30. That's it. She's older than that. Better for longer. Players could use more wingers. Yeah, they've only got about a thousand.
Starting point is 01:43:25 Let's get to the Islanders. We talked about what a single draft pick can do to change a franchise. There might not be a better example than what Matthew Schaefer has done to transform the islanders in the last six months. Let's go to the action last night against the Pantaro's the defending Stanley Cup champs. They having fun there in that new rink?
Starting point is 01:43:48 Did that explode? That was a pop. That was still on? That was... Can you do that again? In the Brock Nelson trade, he's going to be part of this core for a long time. A lot sets up Schaefer. Oh, come. Here's so bad.
Starting point is 01:44:05 Bearhorn is good. Rank, Sunday afternoon, March 1st. Oh, games that matter for the Isles. Gives the Islanders a lead. Two on the day. Jeez. To hit 20 goals. 20 goals.
Starting point is 01:44:23 That's right, Rhett, 20 goals as an 18-year-old NHL rookie defenseman. 20. Three other rookie D have scored 20. They're good. Dion was one of them.
Starting point is 01:44:36 Barry Beck, who probably people won't remember but was a prolific young guy. And Brian Leach. He's got a few to catch Leach. Leach did not do it at age 18. Here's Schaefer this year. 61 games, 20 goals, 44 points.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Rookies. Rookie defense. Yeah, rookie in 18. Plus 14. Is that any good? Can Mange borrow his? No, almost get him back to you. Plus 14.
Starting point is 01:45:00 24 minutes. 18. God, imagine how much money I would have made being able to play with him. Imagine how many Olympics you'd get to go. No. Not yet. Can I ride shotgun?
Starting point is 01:45:12 Please. Go be this guy's agent. What he's doing, I mean, we're gushing over him. But it's, this is stuff we haven't seen. There's literally skaters, forwards his age.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Like only five others have ever done what he's doing. He's doing it as a defenseman. There's no defenseman team. They're dingers now, remember? Check out this dinger. Third in puck possession time in the entire NHL. So second in zone exits, second in zone entries, third in open ice deeks, tied for second in goals.
Starting point is 01:45:43 That is amongst all defensemen in the NHL, not rookies, all deep. He's already one of the best defensemen in the NHL. I love it because I'm a snats nerd, but I don't know what I'm this stuff means. The fuck president's how much time he's holding out of the puck. On his stick? My whole career,
Starting point is 01:45:58 there was no way ahead of that. You'd be close. Well, you said it the other day on that one goal that he scored, it would have taken you a month of hockey to have had the puckers. He had it on the one's own. Two hours?
Starting point is 01:46:08 No, Rhett. Maybe we include your practices. We can bump up the time. Zone exits. That's okay. I'm in my own zone. I've got it to neutral ice though turning it over.
Starting point is 01:46:19 I was good at that. You were? Does that include icing? Glossing out those. a little different than carrying it out. It's an exit at the zone. Oh, you can't throw it out? You can't just I think a zone exit that probably you could go glossing up
Starting point is 01:46:31 but it's got to end up on your own team stick, I think. That's a great question. So we don't really know, but the board looks good. Anytime you're in the top three. We know that being second in the NHL for zone exits is good. Yeah, someone's telling us that it's good, so. Yeah, and it's just this
Starting point is 01:46:47 proprietary stat sport logic that works at the NHL. Here's 18-year-old demon. This is not rookies. This is just 18-year-olds. He's already the highest scoring 18-year-old defenseman ever just past Phil Housley yesterday. He's got some work to do on points. But remember, 82, 83 when Housley came in, a lot of 9-8s, not an 8-7.
Starting point is 01:47:08 A lot of eight-savons, 9-8 jobs. This is a different universe of scoring, and he still has, what, 20 games to catch him? This is great stuff. A lot of good names there. Dahlina had a hell of a year, didn't he? And the thing about him is too. Doug Bodger? He is bone crusher?
Starting point is 01:47:30 He's engaging. You watch him play, like his facial expressions. He's loving the game. He's already running smack with Rangers fans. They're so happy. They should be. You don't. It's more serious.
Starting point is 01:47:42 Guys, though, I want you to forget everything you've just seen. This is all fantasy hot. It's like a vault. You can't just think you're going to pick first and get super stars. Oh, I see you're going there. At a Dean's point earlier? You do need some help from the lottery. Well, it took a while.
Starting point is 01:47:56 A bunch. You know, for this. You know, once they got that new rake, though. Because the islanders picked them, you know, last year. Yeah, in 25. And now it's 20s. It took about, you know, six months or so for that to finally come around. Four months, really, because he was good right away.
Starting point is 01:48:18 Huh. You got to have that kind of patience, though. That's, you know, four to six months. If you can hold out that long. They probably didn't want to tear it. down there winning culture to miss the playoffs last year, but things happen, I guess. That deadbeat
Starting point is 01:48:32 Brock Nelson. Tonight's games. Let's take a peek. Exciting. Oh, Preds and Wings. Stephen Weiss. Oh, excellent. Although, was he a threat? He was a Panther. He was a Floripather. It's not a funded at all, is it?
Starting point is 01:48:47 Jordan Tutu? Yes. I'll take that one. Columbus and the Rangers. Panarin. Nash. Good. Lots of guys there. Flyers. and leaves to trade last year. Our boy. Our boy. Our boy. Big E.
Starting point is 01:49:01 Lenders? Sure. Yeah. Nice laws. Dallas, Vancouver. I mean, once Tyler Myers gets there, but not yet. I don't care. Who is a good? I think we're failing, and this is sad that we're failing on this one. This one should not.
Starting point is 01:49:17 It should be just automatic. Let's give us 10 seconds. That's fine. No, it's one of those. You got to move past it. It's a brain cramp that you have to you need a neck adjustment Seattle Carolina let's go next one Rob Blake at the bottom like Rob Blake there
Starting point is 01:49:34 we'll accept that Keynes who was it was the crackin it's almost weak so hard with him but they would have got someone in that GD draft all right back to the Dallas Vancouver's more fun we got to get better at this
Starting point is 01:49:49 uh Matthias Olin see no he wasn't there there was a Smith that backed up No. Cole or someone, come on. Did Mike Keene play for Vancouver? I believe he did, because their affiliate was the Manitoba,
Starting point is 01:50:11 and he played in Manitoba. But he was past, well, past his brunt. Vancouver, Dallas. I think it is Mike Keene. Jack, come on. Help out here. I have no idea. Why is this hard?
Starting point is 01:50:35 This should not be hard. The Western Conference team. Not Montreal, Colorado, Dallas. Oh, no, he went a cup with all three of those. He played Vancouver. Yeah, 0304. That's clear. Now we go Carolina, Seattle. That's hard.
Starting point is 01:50:52 That is hard. Defenseman. Like, I can't even tell you now who plays in Seattle. Jeez. Saw Ty Cartier got picked up in waivers. I don't mind him, her fourth line. I'll get rid of him for. That's a good question.
Starting point is 01:51:08 He's kind of a shit to story. You always play balls in the calendar, too. It was a good one in the chat. Morgan Geeky. Yeah, we're just lighting it up for. Really? I wouldn't. He's drafted by Carolina?
Starting point is 01:51:20 That would be your expansion draft, I imagine. Geeky too. Thank you, chat. We were not going to do well there. Stinking expansion. We failed today. Sorry, folks. We'll be better tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:51:30 We'll letdown. Who's the other one in Boston? It's doing all the score. There's two geekies, right? Yeah. Morgan and. So this is, Is it Connor?
Starting point is 01:51:39 Connor Geeky would be this one. No, I think it was the same. It's Morgan Geeky. Yeah, same guy. Seattle let him go and he's lighting it up now. Yeah, he was drafted by Carolina. Then Seattle took him in the expansion. Now he's on Boston.
Starting point is 01:51:55 So where's Connor geeky? Or is he still a young lad? Oh, Jesus, Dean. We're going to move on. I got to keep my geekies figured out guys. Yeah, you got to keep your geekies straight. Manitobans. Because, I mean, Craig would be, Craig.
Starting point is 01:52:07 old geeks back in Shoal Lake, he'd be some sour if I didn't have... He's on the Lightning Beach. Tampa Bay Lightning Orange. He's playing with Peltier in the... I'm pretty good. Huh? He's playing pretty good. Yes, was he geeky? Manitoba, Jack.
Starting point is 01:52:23 Great hockey last night in our city. Might be Strathbler. Flames Community Arena, the Cougars and Dinos. Shit, yeah. Jack, did you go to Kijiji? Spent a hundred bucks for one of these tickets. No, I did. It's the same two teams as a Crouchard Classic. Can I tell you something? Please.
Starting point is 01:52:38 The woman I live with. Yeah. She went to two of the three games this weekend. I didn't get to one of them. Really? Because I went to one. I didn't see her. She was there last night.
Starting point is 01:52:45 Because you were busy? Huh? Because you were so busy? Yeah. One nothing Dino's in the first. And it was two to one in favor shots to for the Cougars over the Dinos. And they finally tied it in the sack and win it in the third. They blew the doors off the Dinos in game one.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Dino's won by this score in game two. That necessitated yesterday's do or die game three. Cougars will haul. host the Saskatchewan Huskies next weekend at FCA, great hockey, great barn. Can you promote this again closer to? Yeah, next weekend. I'll let you know. That is Friday, Saturday, and Sunday if necessary.
Starting point is 01:53:22 Best of three, winner goes to the national championships and will be the Canada West champs. I wonder if the preacher will come out. Now, we're, uh, beg you of S support. Weren't these games sold out? The first two were technically sellouts and it was rammed there yesterday. Yeah. Now, FCA is not huge, but any barn sold out is jumping. The lights going and everything.
Starting point is 01:53:42 Yesterday's game was not a guarantee until Cougars lost Saturday night. And it was 2-1 late. Yeah. It's too bad. It's a big, dumb Olympic sized ice. That's a probably advantage to the Cougars. They know how to play it. The other teams don't.
Starting point is 01:53:55 Cougars on and Huskies. Oh, look at all this room. The dots are in the wrong spot. Driving wide. Dogs versus cats. Oof. It's good hockey, man. Dogs versus cats, rats.
Starting point is 01:54:04 Great hockey. Great goaltending last night. to. Okay, we'll move on. Congrats to the Cougars and a boy. Bert Gelling. Bert. Bert. Bertie boy. Remember, Bert when I offered to help out, he said, didn't return my call. Thanks, Bert. Bert, probably made the right decisions. This team's really good. Really good.
Starting point is 01:54:20 And to Mark Howells, U.C. Dino's, a big year of turnover, very young roster, awesome season. Although that's a heartbreaking way to end it against your rivals, down Crowchelt. Keep moving. We've got to trade in the NFL today, fellas. Oh, David Montcoverry. Monty. Montgomery. Montgomery. Monty. To the Texans for what was first reported as a fifth,
Starting point is 01:54:42 but now it sounds like it's a fourth and a line man. Oh, you got a fifth right up here. It says right there. There you go. That was Adam Schaefter before he changed his mind and what the hell happened in this trade. Can't change your mind. He does. He's that powerful.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Shefters tells him, no, no, no, you've got to make it a fort now. Wasn't he breaking trades too? N.H. The. Bereneren? Yes, Panarin. Is it that of the Quinn Hughes? It was easy to break.
Starting point is 01:55:04 What is it? Oh, yeah. What do we think of the Texan's backfield now? Woody Marks and this guy? Don't mind not. Why are we cheering for the Tex? Because I got Woody Marks and fantasy. Let's go, boys.
Starting point is 01:55:17 Keep like. Keep moving. Other NFL news. Wouldn't that hurt that? No, it just means they like Woody. This is a good guy. He's not going to go. What is that?
Starting point is 01:55:25 Start, try again. Woody Marks had a great rookie campaign. Uh-huh. He started feeding him the rock later in the year. I think it was at Nick Shub. Because Mixon was. Mixing and Chubb, we're dead. And so when you bring in Montgomery,
Starting point is 01:55:38 that tells me they like the young guy, and this is the veteran they're going to work with. Not unlike what you've seen with Gibbs and Montgomery. It's going to be a two-headed monster, but absolutely what he marks is one of those guys. So you would rather have another guy there to take touches? I don't want to, if they didn't get another guy,
Starting point is 01:55:52 I'm worried about them going to free agency and paying someone better than Montgomery to be the bell cow. Anyway, fantasy nerd stuff. Yeah, okay. Go read sleepers. Sleepers. You might be outsmarting your own brain. Go read the sleeper treats. They agreed.
Starting point is 01:56:07 Here's a fun one. That's important. If we think hockey players make good money. All-time career earnings. NFL quarterbacks. 408. Before next year. Is that him?
Starting point is 01:56:22 Aaron Rogers, 395. Before next year. Tom Brady retired with a third of a billion dollars. He's going to pass by some guys that are dusters because Kirk Cousins. Who's the pitcher is, right? That's Kirk. Kirk. Kirk. Kirk, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk, Kirk.
Starting point is 01:56:38 He's going to pass town Brady in career earnings this year if he plays. And Russell Wilson, your boy, Jack, for the one year he was a stealer. An embarrassing take, you'll take to the grave. $317,000. Why did you put this up there? Just to, just, uh. So on the weekend, a lot of money. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:56:55 So professional athletes? And I know that if you had that kind of money, you eat a lot of food, which brings us to our next item. I'd still come here and work every day. Sure wouldn't. St. Louis Cardinals. Now, look at this. Unlimited concessions. Ticket package starting at 29 bucks. Bottomless soda. Hot tugs, tenders, bratt worst, nachos, fries, popcorn, peanuts, chips, and ice cream. Unlimited. 29 bucks. All of it? You get all that for 29 bucks. Unlimited. Not one of each. Have as much as you want. Keep coming back. Oh, really? Why do I live in Canada again? Look at how cheap this is. Yeah, it's quite something.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I think those $29 tickets will go quickly. It's a hell of a ballpark too. And usually a good team. They love the baseball there. Huge down there. Look at that archie thing too. Yeah. I've been in there, retro.
Starting point is 01:57:45 You've been in the archie thing? Scary. Scary. Scary. You know what? That speaks to the weakness of today's children. Oh, it's scary to the heart. It's an elevator.
Starting point is 01:57:57 God love it. It's so scary. I love it. Finally, golf's a simple game, guys. Sure is. When you break it down, you're down, Very simple. Let's go to the tape. I heard this one time and I remembered it and it's really, if you'd write this down it really
Starting point is 01:58:15 helped. What I try to do, I try to flat load my feet so I could snap load my power package. That way I can amplify both lag and drag pressure through impact fix. As long as my number two power cumulator done breakdown I can reach maximum centripetal force with minimum pivotal resistance. You see the pivot is utilization of multiple centers to produce a circular motion for generating centrifugal force on an adjusted plane, plus the maintenance and ballast and that series from a two-line delivery path. See, golf is geometrically oriented linear force.
Starting point is 01:58:42 It involves a physical muscular thrust and a geometry of the circle. You can divide the golf swing into 24 basic components each have between 12 and 15 variations. Now when you think of all this and you get it all set, hopefully you'll hit shots like this. That guy seems like a lot of fun, Dean. That's your pender apart.
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Starting point is 01:59:31 village honda.com. Dealership for life. Dean, back to you. Golf, it's coming up. Is it spring? It's spring in the air. It's March. When's Easter?
Starting point is 01:59:42 April. Okay. That's coming up. Is that when, Easter is. It's May sometimes. That's really. No, it's not May.
Starting point is 01:59:51 No. May is too late. March or April. It's April. I know it is. Minnesota Wilde have claimed Robbie Fabry off waivers. He was placed there. Not Madge.
Starting point is 02:00:06 Manj, Penny, not cleaned as have yet. More at all. On waivers today. Off to the barracuda, are you? Eric Gustafson, Tyler Pitlick. Gustav Oliveson of the Cracket. No, I appear to be distracted and I am. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 02:00:27 But I don't just want to, I don't want to be loud wrong. Mm-hmm. It's better than being quiet, right. And I can't find quiet riot, quiet riot. Come on, I'm being jack, hey. The Cougars with the win, obviously advanced to the conference, so they're going to play Saskatchewan. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:00:45 They clinch a spot at the nationals with the win yesterday. Yes, because two teams from Canada, Westwood. but they're still vying for the Canada's title. So a massive win for the Cougars, obviously, as they get to remember last year, they were at the Nationals and they went into that six overtime game or whatever? Was that two years ago or last year? It was last year. Wasn't it last year?
Starting point is 02:01:04 The first game is like, oh, and they're tied and they're still tied and they're still tied. And they're still tied. And they play. Well, they don't do it in the Olympics, Dean. They saw it at the Cougars game. Can't do it. This is terrible. Yep, can't have it.
Starting point is 02:01:17 Can't have it. Congrats to Bert Gilling and the. boys for getting her done. Goodbye, Bertie. Are you going to be torn when they? I'm very torn. I was just going to say. I was with some of the flatlanders there and they're like, I don't know.
Starting point is 02:01:30 This is, what am I going to cheer for you? What was that noise? Practice with the huskies when I was holding out for all my money. How'd that go for you? All my money. How old were you? Money, honey.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Well, this is the fall of 99. Yeah. Oh, whatever that makes you. 24. Were they excited to see you there? Fresh off of your cup final appearance. A lot of binds out. Toronto Metropolitan beat Mount Royal in the fifth
Starting point is 02:02:13 overtime, five to four last year. Yeah. So we're loud right. I remember I was sitting there. Oh, the game's on. I'll put it on. This game is still going. My kid got up, went to work, came home.
Starting point is 02:02:26 I was like, what do you want? Oh, replay? No, it's still on. Still on. Renfrew Chrysler. Renfrewcrisler.com 1920 pumphouse road southwest. What an address. What a dealership.
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Starting point is 02:03:22 I've never won a Stalantis. I don't have any other or no either. It's good to have goals, though. Maybe it's something to shoot for. Jack's going to do the. Murph. I'm going to try and win the Stalantus dealership of the year award like Renfrew Chrysler. How long does it take you to run a mile, Jack? We're going to figure that out, right?
Starting point is 02:03:43 I haven't. Are you going to follow through with this? Like some of the other. Yes. I am a lot of percent. Feels like the ball club. I got to do it by July. Why?
Starting point is 02:03:53 It's just. Or you'll lose it back to consumers all the time and don't do it. It doesn't know. It's like poker at, uh, I didn't. Play poker. The O'Connor Cabin. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:04:05 Yeah, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Okay. Can you shut your mic off? Guys. Or if Ben 365 got involved in this, plus 900.
Starting point is 02:04:20 I mean, I'm putting something down. That's safe money, right? Yeah, it feels safe. It is minus 10,000 that he actually doesn't do it. Plus 900, he doesn't. Come on back, Jack.
Starting point is 02:04:31 It's not a lot of support for our friend. This is something good that he's trying to Just like reading is something good that he's trying to do. And that's really just gone horribly. One chapter in and three and a half months. Shot me down fairly quickly. Also, paying your bets is a nice thing to do and wonderful.
Starting point is 02:04:47 But he's not going to like where buffalo things. He's up to like. Lazzania, pizza days. All kinds of. My dad's coming to town. I'll, uh, that's forever. Foot daddy.
Starting point is 02:04:58 So again, back to the conversation. We talk about society and the problem with the children. And then dad's coming to. to take care of. Yeah. My dad's one. You just
Starting point is 02:05:08 sabotage a new way. You're going to be disappointed. Well, boy, this is what you've done with your life, is it? Whose cigarettes are these?
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Starting point is 02:05:35 You must be 19 years of age or older. About 365, the official gaming partner, Barbara. Because we mentioned it on the show, I did look for the Anaheim Ducks to win the Pacific. They're tops on the Pacific by points. percentage. They're plus 275. Vegas, who has not been spectacular, minus 160. So I'm putting a little unit over there on ducks.
Starting point is 02:05:57 Tonight, there's two very good teams against two very bad teams. The Avalanche play the Kings in a dangerous spot. First game of the new coach. Oh, I was just going to say. But it's really bad. And then Dallas is in Vancouver where the Canucks are putting on a tanking clinic. I don't even think they're trying to tank. They're just not so bad they are.
Starting point is 02:06:14 They make it look like they're trying to tank. Their dog shirt. If you take the puck line on both and parlay them plus 488. All right. I am wary of the new coach balance. But are that King's team that played the flames the other day? I'll say this, even if you don't work par late, plus 140 for stars by a couple. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:06:38 Just you can play singles on that or if you just like Dallas. Yeah. Vancouver's been awful. And we told you about Dan the man. So you probably got Dan Mews at 20 or 28 to 1 when we mentioned that a while ago with Pittsburgh. There's some new competition because this is an award that doesn't go to the John Cooper's. Oh, I thought they're going to be good. It goes to a team.
Starting point is 02:06:58 It defies the odds and the preseason predictions. and all of a sudden the Anaham Ducks might be one of those teams. Lundy Rough certainly will get some love. Dan the man, if he gets in with a sit injury, he's going to get some votes. But I like dancing on Joel Quimble at 2821. Back to you, Jack. He's not taking it for me.
Starting point is 02:07:21 Sorry, what? They won't give it to Joel. Regular season awards, futures. Schaefer, the odds on favor, obviously, by a mile. Is it probably a minus a thousand for Calder? Dave O for the Art Ross. That one's interesting.
Starting point is 02:07:39 He was plus money on the weekend, but he's piled up some points, sis, because Kutrava's games in hand. They have the caller odds, and then it's, they've always, the whole field. Schaefer and the field,
Starting point is 02:07:49 and still the field is plus 1,100. Yeah, that was last year of Hudson, but never got that big. He's winning it. I wonder if this is finally the year for John Cooper. He's never won it.
Starting point is 02:08:04 There's a bit of a drumbeat there that he has never won it, and the light. have been outstanding. I will say this. If there are two points ahead of Buffalo, don't you have to give it to Lindy Ruff? I was just going to say,
Starting point is 02:08:16 they've been outstanding until Buffalo and the Lindy Rough Sabres come to town and smack here out. No, Buffalo's going to have to make up some ground there, but I do think it's a tough award to win for the coaches of very good teams. They don't seem to get it. It's more of your Bob Hartley's with young teams and things like that.
Starting point is 02:08:35 Cooper asked us at the Olympics, so no. Yeah, it's the, didn't see that coming. Must be a great coaching job that you've done there. Dan Mews, everyone thought Pitzer could be the last in the NHL. Not Jack. Not Jack.
Starting point is 02:08:49 He's no idiot. I'm a real. Not you. Dan the man. Is anybody watching this show? Do we have super chats today? Run on. Oh my gosh.
Starting point is 02:09:01 Oh, my gosh. For the kids, though, youth centers of Calgary will benefit from the generosity of our watchers listeners. Handsome Dan, 20 bucks. Just popped in to say, happy birthday to future point per game forward and NHL star Matt V. Gridden. All star. NHL. All star, Matt V. Gridden. Kid does not lack creativity and confidence. Also can fly and shoot at a ton. Yeah. He looks very, you know what? He looks very poised. Well, rounded. Yeah. If you are weary about Craig Conner getting late picks
Starting point is 02:09:33 in the first round, keep picking griddens. You should not be weary. 20 bucks. There you go. 20. Well, they didn't score against the Kings. Oh, that's right. So. Cheeks McGee. Love it, Cheeks, McGee. No, no, no, no.
Starting point is 02:09:50 I have a genuine concern. Is Zeri failing under Husk's coaching, or is he declining heavily? Farrowby has definitely been buzzing and needs to be looked at again. Could he be a good player to trade? He's making some money that's going to make it hard. Yeah, he's North of Five, right? Yeah, he's five or five and a hard. You're not trading them this year because he's a couple of years left, I think, too.
Starting point is 02:10:09 Yeah, Farabee's got term and it's, it's, it's, It's not a cheap, I don't, a fully affordable cap hit. I don't know what. This is what I mean with the Huska stuff, right? Like it's not super negative, but there's this sort of implication of like, well,
Starting point is 02:10:23 if a different coach was here, maybe these players would look different. I guess I just take, I would just, it's not even take the task. I would just ask, what is, where,
Starting point is 02:10:31 what is the failing? Is it ice time? Is it opportunity? Is it utilization like production? Right. Now, is that a result of structure and systems? I don't know.
Starting point is 02:10:40 Or is that the player? How much of that, eventually comes down to the player. That's the whole debate there, yeah. He's got 10 goals, 23 points, and 57 games. 1437 a night. It's a very muted offense. Want him to, yeah, want him to be better.
Starting point is 02:10:59 Came off major injury. Two of them last year. But as a team that, you know, are they struggling to score because he's not scoring or is he surrounded by guys? He's certainly not impressing as much as I'd hope. Thought before. Yeah. It feels like maybe the last month, six weeks,
Starting point is 02:11:14 It's been a little better. Agreed. I don't know what ice time you need as a forward to feel like you're always in the game. Is what did you say 14 13 13? Yeah, 1437's not the same as a defenseman because there's more forwards. Yeah. That's all right. Yeah. So they spread it out different and the goalie is on the ice all the time. What? He gets all the ice time. They don't have shifts. And then there's some games, none, none at all. I would ask Huska about that. It's like Cooley played 60 plus minutes yesterday. You tell me, Dustin Wolf's going to go from zero minutes to like playing again. He didn't play at all against the Kings.
Starting point is 02:11:52 What? What hell's this guy doing? Actually, you're right cheeks. This is Huska guys going to know. I don't know. It's one of those things where it's always the cart before the horse and the heart before the cart. You know what? If Zeri had 25 goals, I'll tell you what Huska would do.
Starting point is 02:12:09 Well, and what's declining heavily? It's not what, what were the expectations? We had 14 goals, then he had 13 and now he's got 10. Do points. Play along with me. What's the first year in points? Because that's a rookie. 34.
Starting point is 02:12:24 And how many games? Like 53. Okay. So he's a little over half point a game. Then 27 in 54. That's half point a game. And then 23 and 57. Not a half point a game.
Starting point is 02:12:35 So that's the trend. And again, I don't know how much to put it on player or coach or just when you, if you drop Connor's area under the third line in Tampa, how many points is? It's a lot more. But I don't know. Like who's the great play where he's playing with? No one. They don't have any.
Starting point is 02:12:53 The answer is no one. And who is having a good offensive season for this club? The answer again? Yeah. Was that Cheeks McGee that sent that? Yeah. What it is? It's a, it can't take it a bunch, can't take it all away from me, Cheeks.
Starting point is 02:13:07 It's the same one. I don't, but I'm saying, I'd love to say you're a fool, you're a genius. No, it could be both. Could be both. And to his point, you can have concern. about Zeri who we thought was going to trend towards maybe a 60 to 80 point guy. He's a first round pick.
Starting point is 02:13:21 And he's looking like a 35 point guy right now. Is it bullish or bearish? Barish. Kind of both. I think if you're, if you think something's getting better, that's bullish. Okay.
Starting point is 02:13:30 I think it's getting worse. I was bullish on Zeri going. Yeah, for sure. In the long run. I'm still 60, 40, bullish over bearish, but. Is that what bearish is? Make things happen.
Starting point is 02:13:43 If you think a stock is not going to perform while you're bearish on it, if you think it is, going to be much better you were bullish on the stock so that's with the analogy we're using is a bull that much more aggressive and bouldons and throws it up and the bear swipes down that's how you're remember the two really see i feel like you're full shit you feel like you're not the ufell talk is so good at it but that's how i remember the difference i don't know if that was just an anecdote from a professor but you you see the statues i see how it could be but it feels like you're
Starting point is 02:14:12 just kind of freelancing they're on the fly i think it's like is a merrill lynch or one of those big investment companies down in New York. They have the statues out front. Well, they've got the bull. I like you right. I also like the visual he did. You'll never forget it again. If you're a bull,
Starting point is 02:14:27 yeah, the harm of that. I do a fair screen. I'm sorry. No, he's right. Okay. He's right. What do you mean? I'm right.
Starting point is 02:14:36 A bull thrust its horns upward, rising crisis, and a bear swipes its paws downward, falling prices. Well, I guess I'm loud fucking right. That's right, loud right. Yeah. Now you tell me which one am I. You come after a month,
Starting point is 02:14:50 Twitter today, you fools. Nobody can't. Where is our full screen jack? Geez, we're missing out here. Now, what about the bear? Because bears are, oh, no, that's not good. We don't want the bear. The bear is a mean bastard.
Starting point is 02:15:09 For Zeri, I hope it's not bearish, because that's, it's terrible. Oh, it's awful. Thanks, guys. I have a management degree. In the University of Loutbridge. With a major in economics, so, you know. That's my Balaweck.
Starting point is 02:15:26 Any more? I'm out. I'm tapped. Oh, not from you. God damn it. It's for the kids. Maddie Hurl, 699. Yes.
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Starting point is 02:15:49 RB, fire Maloney and Rhett? I don't want to be fired. What am I getting fired? No, no, no, comma. That's a punctuation for him. He's got an ampersand there. You know, an ampersand is.
Starting point is 02:15:57 He wants you to be a president of hockey ops. I could do it. Jackie, familiar with the ampersand. Say that again? Amper sand. No. That is that character.
Starting point is 02:16:08 But I was going to be the owner. Between Maloney and Rhat. Yeah, that's the thing, Rby, why are you holding Rhett back? Maybe you could be a minority owner and poho you know what you could be you like Jared Jones
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Starting point is 02:16:40 and then but Coles got the same I was gonna say either Coles either getting a raise or you have a good stash though you have a good stash Again, your follicle per square inch is untuck, and you know what we're going to do? It's maybe cheating.
Starting point is 02:16:50 We're going to die that some of the Jim Benning, black ink that he put on his eyebrows. Dye in their hair or bleach in her. Yeah, we're going to get you a black cowboy hat. Yeah. Tight shave. And you know what? The handlebars, that'll be a winning streak or losing streak.
Starting point is 02:17:07 If the team's performing poorly, it starts to grow. You know what I'm going to have in my office? Tell me. A barber's chair. So I'm going to have. someone's that's right yeah and i got to plan it out so that when i have to have a sit down with these idiot coaches that i'm getting to shave yeah you're getting to make them wait probably to bar if you had a barber's chair too i'm gonna make them wait mr warner uh santo's here to see
Starting point is 02:17:33 they could sit on yeah tell would come in you got the hot towel yes raise a blade out tough loss yesterday uh yeah that's right mr warner yeah what we're thinking of about Zary on the power playing. I'm not sure. Let's go. This is just beyond. Thank you, R&B.
Starting point is 02:17:58 Where can you get the barbature? R.B. back in 2799. Boomer, I appreciate your ongoing input on Uyghur in his league worst minus 33 since you consider him as a top devad.
Starting point is 02:18:09 That's your question. As a multi-decade diehard fan and I love the kids. This will continue until Uighur is traded. Thank you, R&B. You're the fucking idiot, spending all the dough. I don't care where it goes.
Starting point is 02:18:18 It's not an idiot. $28. This is his personal crusade and it's going to help the kids. I'm with R.B. Or R&B. It's great. Hey, I've been saying he's a shit year. Start of the year.
Starting point is 02:18:32 Best defender. He's had him. It's been a shit go. No question about it. I don't think he's the worst D man in the league. The plus minus is. Just, yeah. Kami got us up to speed last week with the green jacket.
Starting point is 02:18:47 And just like top D man. Flames. not up for the Norris. No, but he was. Canada. He was a guy that team Canada had, you know, on a long list. I think he's much better than he's. I agree.
Starting point is 02:19:04 Sometimes that plus minus is sneaky too. It's almost like if your team's bad, you're a bigger minus. I'll tell you what, though. Bess are at 29, left shootoff at 29. Putting a push on. Don't, uh, don't, uh, don't, Sleep on Lev Shunov. He hasn't played as much either.
Starting point is 02:19:21 I wonder, do they have money on that? I haven't seen that one. Yeah, 365. Anyway, RB, it's all fun in games. Oh, more. Look at this. We're not done yet, apparently. Oh, this is going to.
Starting point is 02:19:34 I was just going to give the guy some praise and move on, but he won't. White Clouds replaced Weeger as a top four right-hand D. Wee Bagle. Weiger's played with ball yesterday in the top pairing. What are you doing? If we could touch on that really? go already. Mackenzie Weger for the first time in two years
Starting point is 02:19:52 pretty much gets to play with an NHL actual top four defensemen. It's always fun. It's been a lot of Pahal, Hanley, Bean, Miramanov, Koznetsov, who I like but is young, now he finally gets ball. Credit to White Cloud and Kuznetsov. Yes, because Kuznetsov's been, I like
Starting point is 02:20:11 Kuznetsov been just fine, he's been okay. But like, if you have Weger and you're like, okay, how do I steady this a little bit? Ball's been there the whole time. That's your steadying force on the left side. You know what? Ball. This all comes back to that huskid guy. The answer was ball.
Starting point is 02:20:30 Yeah, Uyghur was even yesterday. 25 minutes of ice to lead all skaters. 25.08, even? Stephen. McKinney. That can't be it. White Cloud might. Patches, frog, no.
Starting point is 02:20:48 Was in on Friday, ready to really pony up with some dough after your big weekend of book reading. Doesn't this feel like the opposite of what R.B. in the Uigh and the Uighur situation is? Shouldn't Jack be siphoning money to this guy? Probably, yeah. I think he's already lost in bets.
Starting point is 02:21:04 People know Jack doesn't pay his bets. Did I hear you're up to you. This guy is on my ass. Jack. Every show. Four bucks for four chapters? It's not happening, Patches.
Starting point is 02:21:16 I can tell you that. That book arrived, I think, December 5th. Patches, O'Hulahan. Sad story. month anniversary of that book arriving at his door. He was so excited to get a package. Why don't you give it to someone else? Yeah, just give it to someone.
Starting point is 02:21:29 Do you have any friends that can read, Jack? No, nobody reads. Oh, God, damn. Is that what the foot daddy's come to do? Yeah, he'll read. Jack, talk before bed. Put a cold cloth in your head and read you a book. This is your favorite.
Starting point is 02:21:42 It's called Jack and the Beanstalk. You're Jack. Yeah, dad. I love books. R.B. 699. Seattle has lots of cap space and draft picks and one point behind the oil or grease. There's maybe a deal to be made which doesn't require salary retention or rebuild. It could be. Is that about Weger going there? I don't know what he's
Starting point is 02:21:58 talking about. Yeah, fair. Because like all those things are true, but then what's the deal? I don't know what the deal is. I don't know. What's the deal? If you're trading Weaker and getting something in return, awesome. If you're trading Weiger just to trade Weager, I don't know what the hell is the hell is because we've got to get Pahall out there. I love Paul. But come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Cheeks McGee. Are three people watching this show? Yeah, Cheeks, R.B, and Packy's Frog or whatever. How about this Zeri mental block or a legit decline?
Starting point is 02:22:40 Well, the numbers are declining. The question is how much is on Zeri and how much is on just this team that is anemic offensively? What's the expectation of a guy drafted first round 24th overall? Well, what was your expectation this summer when you thought he was going to get Coronado money? It was probably 60 points, right? Four knee and Drew. like a half point per game. That was the floor.
Starting point is 02:23:05 That's what he did his first 100 games. Is that the floor? Well, that's what he'd been before this year. And you're thinking he's going to get better. I'm just saying guys drafted in that range. Well, I mean, yeah, there's different roles, different different types of players. For Zeri, you would hope he'd be better
Starting point is 02:23:20 than a half point per game. It's not. I'd take half point. 40 point guy's fine, but it sure ain't a star, right? You're hoping there was some flashes of star to me. 24th overall in 2020. he's really run the gamut. Is that a word?
Starting point is 02:23:34 Michael, I say that because when we draft it and we're, okay, sure. It was COVID, so it was kind of. You got hurt. And then he was hurt. And then he was,
Starting point is 02:23:42 forgot about it on the team. Then he was zipping it around. And then he was getting half a point again. Then he was hurt. He came up right after the outdoor game in Emmetton with the Dexie's Midnight Runner's outfits. And he and Codry and Pons was all turned that season around for Huska. They had an awful start.
Starting point is 02:23:58 Next. J. J. I really feel like the podcast. has ratcheted up a few notches since best Christmas ever. Thanksgiving, NFL playoffs, Olympics, the sponsor spots for hearing loss and cap shev. Some new sponsors keep it up, fellas. You know this positive stuff?
Starting point is 02:24:22 Metry? We don't do well with compliments, but thank you. We're trying. We're trying. You're out of character right now. What me? Someone compliments the show. You have a...
Starting point is 02:24:35 Oh, you know, shut up. It's been a decade. How does you forget that? Shut up, James. It must have been a while since we've got a compliment. You can tell, right? You're rusty.
Starting point is 02:24:45 It's like, hey, I've got some spars. Wow. Things doing some shitty tries. You guys went to ban? Well, you know, we're really trash. Appreciate the 10 bucks. It's good for the kids that you could pipe down. It's got a Honda on there.
Starting point is 02:24:59 Yep. Oh, boy. R.B. Oh. Nas or Coleman to Seattle. Weiger to anywhere. The moon. Sure.
Starting point is 02:25:13 I don't think Naz or Coleman want to go to Seattle. They don't have a lot of control. I think Coleman's got 10-teamer and now as a 13 team list. I don't think Seattle's doing shit. I think they want to, but they're probably going to have to lie to themselves a bit if they think they're good, right? 65 points. Last playoff spot in the West. I like that you're poo-pooing that.
Starting point is 02:25:38 Last playoffs. They're literally a better points percentage than. The Oilers, but we just, they don't have demigods on their roster that can take over a series. They're winning. And they're in a playoffs. They're one of, they're one of two teams right now in a playoff spot. Their goals for and against is a negative. The ducks are a minus seven.
Starting point is 02:26:00 Cracken are a minus six. The mammoth are a plus 23. Yeah. Mahmout. We're sleeping on the mammoth. We're going to make a motion. We're going to make a motion. We're going to make a motion.
Starting point is 02:26:10 be here. Coleman or NAS to the Utah's would be realistic. Both those teams I think are hungry to get all teams when I go to the playoffs but you're talking about new markets new ownership groups that want success. I understand it was you're 4 or 5
Starting point is 02:26:26 in Seattle but they tasted it year two they stunned Colorado, nothing since. Both these teams are hungry to get in more than your usual we want to get in. The mammoths, you can, okay, you're fresh in Utah for the most part. But there's also a lot of time that was spent in the desert where you were picking high and
Starting point is 02:26:45 lots of young assets to move. Poor team that should be close to turning a corner at some point. So all right. Tell me that's it. Please. No, my rupees. Is that it? Yeah. Let's get out of here for you. Hammer's another. Imagine of a trade broke right now. Go. We've got two and a half hours, guys. What is it? Never again. Never. Red's trying to eat here guys with that. Oh, that's not Like today is fine because I can't eat, so I got nowhere to go. But tomorrow, if you try and pull this BS, I believe we will have Jamie McClennan on the show tomorrow. It's with the trade deadline day stuff going on Friday. Drager moves.
Starting point is 02:27:26 He'll move to Wednesday. We have things on Thursday and Jamie can't do Thursday. So it looks like tomorrow will be the sweet spot. He'll be doing a watching a morning skate somewhere tomorrow morning. Edmonton. And we'll join us. You know what I am? I'm bullish on noodles on a Tuesday.
Starting point is 02:27:43 Okay, good. That's tomorrow. Fine, I take it back. The other two bucks, all right. There you go. There's a taken back, Jack. Yeah, and you know what? It's going to be a game day tomorrow.
Starting point is 02:27:59 Hellmus, Dallas in town. They get a front row seat to the country Coleman's of the world. Aren't you going to the game? You guys are going. Oh, no. I'm busy. I'm out of town.
Starting point is 02:28:11 Going to the game. Red. You're out of town? I'm a mountaineer. You know he is. Full of it. Yeah. He did say that a while back, though.
Starting point is 02:28:21 Yeah. I'm gone that. But whenever something comes up, it wasn't it next year we were talking about, oh, it'd be the 50th anniversary of Slapshot. We should do with it. I'm okay. I'm not available.
Starting point is 02:28:31 It's a movie in a year from now. It's like one night to watch a movie. You don't know what you're doing next week. What do you mean? You know what you're doing next year. I'm not available. I'm not sure I can. So you're on the show tomorrow or no?
Starting point is 02:28:42 Jack. Put a pipe in it. Or it's thick or... Right. Put a pipe in it, Jack. Maybe too much pipe in there is the problem. Jack, how is the show today? Very good boys.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Very long. I think Brett's... I'm fade. Yeah, he's... You've got the Pinder thing going where your... Yeah, my face is falling off. Put a pipe in it. See you, buddy.

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