Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Mangiapane Trade Reaction: Live From Vegas

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

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So who's coming to the bus? You or me? Because I'm... You have a steering wheel. You should drive. I'm in no condition to drive. So breaking flames news as we jump in here. I'm...

You can see just over here, I figured I'd park nice where you can see where I'm at. So I'm not in Calgary, nor am I in Vegas. I'm just over by the grain terminal here on the gravel road. Not far from the dump where I was today. I had to do a dump run. we call it here. And you are, you're in Vegas.

So none of it makes sense. None of it makes sense. We're in a cabana, but I was in a pool. So, I figured you might have been. You know, this,

the flames have made a trade today. And just quick reaction, because we didn't talk a whole lot before we got going here, it seems to make sense. The player, the return, all of it seems to really make sense

for Craig Con. Ronroy in the flames. Why don't you break it down? Yeah, well, we talked a bunch in the last few months about expiring contracts and you know that Sharon Govich is one and Kuzmenko's another, but Manjapani at $5.8 million is the third forward that was set to expire at the end of next year. And the thought was, what kind of team is going to pay for a guy that scored more than 20 goals once in his career, $5.8 million. And then if they were going to pay that, like, geez, like, what kind of asset we'd trade for that. So the thought that I think we'd shared a lot was that half retention, you might be able to get an asset. Craig Conroy's done better than that. He's gone and got a second

rounder and Washington is going to pay the entirety of the salary for the final year of Andrew Maggapani, who frankly doesn't really fit the flames right now. He was a phenomenal flame. He was a sixth rounder. He worked his way up from, you know, playing in the farm team in the American League in California. to the fourth line, to the third line, to a checking line with Michael Backland. He scored an incredibly huge goal in 2022 against the Oilers and happened to have a career year with 35 goals and got paid for it. Hasn't looked like exactly the same guy since, but still a good NHLer. So I'm surprised by the return.

I think it's stronger than we talked about for the last six months. Yeah, I guess just for those that just happened to be jumping in, the trade, the flames trade, Andrew, and, and Japan. to the Washington capitals for a second round pick. Now, we believe the pick belongs to, it was a Colorado pick. So unless the ads fall off the table, it could be a late second rounder. Yeah. But it's a second round pick.

And the key, as you had said, there's, there's no salary retention. So all 5.8 million comes off of the flames cap. And it's not like they were buttoned up against the ceiling or anything. They've got so much room. We'll talk about it. But I guess it's, it's curious what Washington is. thinking again maybe we're way off but i remember we had this conversation a few weeks ago between you me and ret and we said for manjapani if you were good would you get a third for andrew manjapani

right now and we all said no yeah you would have to retain right that's sort of what we thought yeah you were going to have to eat some money i i didn't i didn't see this kind of a return for for man japani now as you said he's a great story he plays in barry he's a smaller player It gets drafted in the sixth round, works his ass off, gets to the NHL, scored 35 goals. Only had 55 points, oddly enough, in that same season. But he's got 35 goals, right? So, but it's been a steady decline since. He went from 35 to 17, this past year 14 goals.

And I know we talked about it, is it the weight of the contract? Is it the weight of $5.8 million on a long-term deal? but he just hasn't looked like the same player to me. Not just the offense, not just the goals. He was always a dog and a bone. He was always on it. And he just hasn't seen the same. So whether it's injuries, whether it's contract, or maybe it's just age, I'm not sure. But, you know, I hope he does turn things around.

But this isn't the same player from even two years ago. Yeah, we saw flashes of the manjapani that I think we saw a lot of in that career year. He also was probably slotted as nicely as you could be slotted that season when you had the top line in the NHL getting a lot of attention and he wasn't on it.

And the shooting percentage was through the roof and it was a weird season where I think it was first half versus second half. And then the next season was Homer away or I had those backwards, but the splits just felt odd. And it was absolutely a heater. But I do think Washington thinks they're

getting a 20 goal guy that can play middle six wing and that's what he's been most of his career. So they clearly think they're competing, you know. And as it was pointed out online by some, if they're just way out of it, they can still flip this guy at the deadline and I think get the third we thought they could always get for him. And if he's playing well, maybe more. Maybe they can recoup a higher second theory as a rental.

But we've talked about it. They're full on wing. Like Cuberto, Sharon Govich. uh kuzmenko zeri pospousal some of these guys might be centers coronado coronado for sure coleman like wingers everywhere and so would you like to see jacob pelchay get some minutes if they're earned or have him rotating through a fourth line with guys like clapka huntaruni like also there's a lot of wingers out there and yeah if you can open some salary maybe the buffalo sabers will give you something really nice to eat the last three years of Jeff Skinner or something along those lines.

Maybe not exactly something as painful. But if you're really trying to get another pick at the top of this draft, which I have the hunch that the flames are, opening up, you know, they're now up to what, 28. 29 million? Yeah, it's right at 29 million. Like, now you can do some things. Now you can take on a Jeff Skinner and say, but it's going to cost you your first or whatever the situation might be.

But Connie's up to stuff here. There's been a lot of people that have said to me in the last 48 hours, like, Spidey sense is tingling. I don't know what it is, but it makes sense to see this deal land today. It's a pick next year. It's not for tomorrow's draft, but not surprised there was a deal today.

There was enough smoke around the flames today. And the funny thing is, because this is clearly a team in a rebuild, Madjapani was 28, expiring contract, It didn't fit. This does. It makes a lot of sense for the Calgary claims. But they're kind of oddly at a point where they don't need any more draft picks between two first, three seconds.

You think about that in the course of two years, they're going to have, and it's not the biggest problem in the world, but you're going to have a lot of guys at prospect camp and at rookie camp that are all the same age or within a year of each other. You don't want to draft that many players. It's great to have the assets. But so I think it's a very good point by you. I've watched to see what they do. Do they take two firsts and throw them at somebody to try and get a little higher in the first round?

If not this year, then maybe next year. Because I don't think you want to draft all those players. I agree. I think it's a classic quantity of picks versus quality of picks. And if you can amass a lot of picks, you can put them together and theoretically move up to a higher slot. We saw, you know, San Jose do that today. They moved from 14 to 11. They move up three spots.

They give up the 10th pick in the second round to do it. If you're Craig Conroy with 28 overall, can you pair that with a couple seconds and get into the teens? If you're Craig Conroy, can you put three seconds together in the next few years with number nine to move to seven? They've got the financial flexibility to do a lot of things and take on some bad money. they also have the quantity of picks where they could smush them together and give them to teams that like we got a first and a fourth that's it and move up uh i think of the jankowski draft the flames had picked 13 and no second rounder they moved back and got a second there's lots of teams in that spot this year the flames this time could be the one that says we're going to move up in the first and we'll give you one of these surplus seconds you don't have a pick in that round uh i wouldn't be surprised at all if we see that happen tomorrow Yeah, it's a lot of cap space, which once we're done, once we're done Friday, Saturday, and then you get into free agency. I know we'll talk next week about it, obviously, in the aftermath.

But how do you best, you've done a lot of work. It's been a lot of cutting to cure for Craig Conroy. Now I think it's, you're close to the time where you want to start curing. We talked to him the other day and just wondered, how much more surgery do you do to this roster to this team before you start to try and put things back? back together again. And it feels like it's, it feels like it's close. It's a lot of cap space. We saw that Jake Walman deal the other day where a second goes along with him. I was, that's, that's the type of deal. You feel like the claims, you can, you can help out some teams

there and help yourself because I think Walman's a decent player. You know what? Just for, I know, these predominantly flames fans, flip the, flip the script, what's, what's Washington's thinking with this trade? Not to say they got fleeced or anything. They give up a second round pitch. that wasn't theirs. It's a late second, but they take on all the money on a player who has one year left. Maybe that's good. Maybe not. I'm just curious what the capitals are thinking. I think they're trying to remain competitive, maybe against what they should be doing or what, you know, the consensus would be what they are. Like, I think they, they snuck in and shouldn't have gone into the playoffs. Charlie Lindgren got really hot. And,

They did get in, but they weren't a good team. They didn't look like a playoff team. They got swept. But they're kind of pot committed on this OB thing. So they're going to be pretty mid for a few years here. And it feels like it. Rather than wait four years for a second rounder to be something or not, they'll take a manjipani who is an NHL.

Right? Like that's, it fits there. We're going to try to compete window, whether they should be doing it or not. And Manjupani, it will not take a huge bounce back for him to be a 20 goal guy. No, I mean, he's floored with it. Yeah, I don't know that he ever gets back to 35, but he had 17, two years ago. I think that I think he could be in the right situation.

But they add Dubois, they add manjapani. It does feel like this is kind of a last ditch effort, if not to get into the playoffs. It feels like this is for Ovechkin to try and get one last push. We'll see how it works. And I know this might be this might be one of those things. It'll be, I'll grab the tape when Boomer was saying, because I saw in the chat already. Somebody was suggesting maybe if you just kept Manjupani into the season, you'd get a first

form at the deadline. I don't know. Yeah, I don't see a first. Sorry about that. If Washington, right, if they can spin him into a first round pick, then good on them. I have a hard time seeing a team looking at Andrew Manjapani as the player that they would give up a first round pick for him at the deadline if he's available. No, and look, like you moved Elias Lindholm at the day. deadline who makes less than Andrew Manjapani. And he's a much better player with a more 200-foot game and with a more well-established

resume. I mean, I don't think at all that you're going to neighbor on a first. Now, if he wants to score 35 again, sure. But if he's an 18-goal checking line winger, which he is, those don't go for first. Like, Jake Gensel didn't get a first. I'm sorry. I don't really see that happening. But, yeah, like, the first.

Could the flames have got a second at the deadline? Yeah, but I mean, now they can do things. They've got a slot for a kid or they can take on an onerous contract from another team and get, you know, compensated appropriately for that. Like, I'm curious about Jeff Skinner and Buffalo. I really am. They sit at 11 in the draft right after New Jersey. They will buy them out.

It sounds like if they can't get a deal done. But what would you pay to get out of the last three years of Jeff Skinner's deal? Yeah. We saw famously Patrick Marlowe's last year. of his deal was like six something. And it was a first rounder that the Leafs sent to Carolina. I think that turned into the Drury Kid, if I'm right, or Jarvis. Some of the good way.

It was South Jarvis. Yeah. And so if Buffaloes really wants to speed this up, they can do a lot of things with Jeff Skinner's cap space, but someone's going to have to pay the rest of that deal. And a buyout hurts because there's a lot of term. It's two thirds of the money double the term. Whereas if you're just like, we'll just pay him. give us your picks.

I think Ottawa, I think Buffalo, I think New Jersey, I think Detroit, there's a lot of teams that are in the top 15 that I don't know they need a pick right now as much as they want to be competitive tomorrow. They don't want to wait two, three years for someone to maybe be something or not. The Skinner one's

interesting because it's very fluid. Now I'm going to admit because I was on a dump run today and I was not around it, but I was checking because of his no move clause it's still it's a to be determined situation still yeah right because i don't think people but he's not waived as no trade or whatever it is so it's very fluid yeah and i don't know that anyone wants jeff skinner at his salary but someone i think would be bribed to do it you know

there's enough teams with the cap space and hey this is in a window where we're collecting assets we're not trying to win a cup and if you're just coming out of a four year a three year coma we're sorry to alert you. The flames are in that stage. They are not trying to win a cup this year. They are absolutely collecting young assets, young players, picks. And there's a really good way to weaponize cap space rather than pay guys too much on July 1 that are old. Help someone out with a problem and get more picks. I'm always curious how not so much how deals get done, but it's a 2025 first round pick. So how does it get done? Yeah. So, yeah. It's a second round pick next year.

So you're a year out. Why does it get done today? What was it about Magapani? Because it's the full contract. I wonder how it came to be that this went down today. Well, I think the flames would like to open that slot. And I think Washington wants the player for this year. So the return, you could talk about sort of the time value of money.

You'd rather have one in the hand than two in the bush. That whole thing. We understand a second rounder this year is theoretically, worth more than one next year because you don't have to wait a year. But they want the player now. And the flames don't need the player now. He's in a year, he turns into dust. He's a UFA.

You don't get anything. I get the flames. Yeah, I get the flames on, I guess from Washington because you're so close to July 1st, could you have taken $5.8 million, which you're now spending on Manjapani and found some reasonable facsimile and saved your second round pick with a free agent.

I don't know. Probably. It's a curious one to me from Washington. side. Well, and you pair it with the Dubois deal and you're like, I don't know that these are, you know, high probability win transactions. These are maybe if you squint, it could work. And, and those were the type of deals that got the flames to where they are now. Like, yeah. I don't know that that it's the classic. Yeah. Yeah, it's the classic line. Is he a 20 goal guy or is he a guy that scored 20, right? Well, and he's never, he's, he had 30.

But yeah, he scored 20 once in his life. You had 35 that year. So what a safe bet is for Andrew Manjapani is 15, 18 goals. I don't know that you couldn't find that in free agency for 5.8s. It's a lot of days. But it's, it'll probably be a later pick. It's Colorado's. It's a year away.

So if we sort of adjust for the value of time, maybe you call that a third round pick tomorrow. So, okay, that's kind of where we pegged his value. And for Craig Conroy doesn't have to use that pick. He can take it and strap it to something else and try to move up in the draft tomorrow. Yeah. It's fascinating work. I'll tell you what, Conroy hasn't sat in his hands. I know when you left Calgary and we were done for obviously leading into the draft,

we felt we had our bases covered because whatever was going to be done, the Markstrom deal was done. And now there was not going to be anything else done before the draft hit on Friday night. But yet here we are. on Thursday talking about a trade. So I feel like that's it. Now I know Warner brought it up on the show the other day about Raspus Anderson. And it's a different conversation and it's a bigger one for sure, obviously. But I wonder if that's one we might be having sooner than later too with how his contract is structured and how valuable someone like him is at that cap.

I look at Ottawa at number seven and they've got three really good defensemen on the left. side. Sanderson, Chikran, Shabbat. They're going to have to do something there. They don't have enough on the right side. Rasmus Sanderson's a right shot defenseman. He's got two years left at a very reasonable number. They don't need another kid at seven. If the conversation started and you're Steve Staeos and I'm Craig Conroy and I said,

hey, we'd love number seven. You guys could use someone like Rasmus and this is kind of where we were on Markstrom before the deal happened. Who would have to add more and who would say that's not enough? I don't know, but I know that he'd be a good fit there. And if all of a sudden you can upgrade 28 and get a second pick in the top 10, I'm not saying these are easily done, but Craig Conroy, Craig Conrad could turn the ship around pretty quickly if he is, you know,

two picks in the top 10 here tomorrow, for sure. And just so we're clear, completely spitballing. I've heard nothing other than, I mean, Rhett brought it up on the show as we just talked about the evolution of this roster and as it moves. And it does, because here's a lot of it. a 28-year-old manager Panny. He's aged out for where this team is going to be. Up in a year.

In a few years. And Anderson is not that... Anderson's older. Anderson's older. Anderson will be 31, I believe, on the first year of his next contract. That does not fit their window. And he didn't have, in the circumstances of this sort of reloady, re-tooly, rebuildy season, he didn't have a good year.

I wouldn't be surprised. I really wouldn't. I wonder to. And it has nothing to do with it. And you're paid a lot of money and you've got to be a pro. What's Nazam-Cadry and Weger and Coleman? What are those guys thinking today as they see another guy leave and no warm body coming back in? Well, I mean, I think they see what we're all seeing.

This is clearly a team that's rebuilding, not retooling. And the question for those players is how long will it take? And do I see the vision of a quick turnaround? And what am I willing to sacrifice if I am going to get out of here? Because to be frank, they don't hold any leverage. They don't make NHL money unless they report and show up to the team that holds their rights. But yeah, you could politely ask to leave. I don't know that it does anything.

Nazim Qadri is better than a lot of teams second line centers, but a lot of teams don't want to pay five more years. He's already 34. The other part of it is too, I mean, this is almost stripping it right down to the studs. If you move Anderson, you absolutely are, yeah. Right. You look at the bodies that have gone out,

Hanofen and Lindholm and Marstrum. I mean, you've torn it nearly down to the back. foundation, you need some guys who have played some seasons in the NHL. It's like when you have to send those preseason rosters to other, well, there's a minimum requirement of NHL games play. The flames are in danger of needing to send frigging Coleman and Weger to all those games, because they don't have a lot of NHL experience on this team right now. You need some guys in that room to be the leaders and it might suck and it does not look

like a cup is coming in the next year. Yeah. But you got a, you're being paid to be a pro and it would be tough, but it's going to, it's going to be a test of their professional level this year for sure. And Cotterrey passed that test this year.

Weeer had a career year. He passed that test. I thought back on that a good year, is the captain all things considered that, you know, he's 35. Coleman had a career year. The one guy that didn't deal with it well was Rasmus Anderson. So they do have and

you know, those are a lot of vets. That's enough to insulate. I don't think you want more than that. Thus, you know, purging of all these, you know,

30-year-old guys you could have extended. But yeah, if you found the right deal for one of these older guys, like there's three years left on Coleman, you could do it. I don't, they're not inexperienced yet,

but there's very clearly four or five guys. that have most of the experience on the team like backland's going to hit a thousand games this year coleman a lot of experience huberto veteran uh weger yeah cadre like they're not young young it's just that there's the seniors ward and then there's a bunch of really really fresh guys yeah and it's like you say and it's not that they're in effect that they've all had great years it's just that mindset for those guys Coleman has a cup codry has a cup obviously backlin doesn't You got to pack your lunch and go to work a few days.

I would think there will be some tough days to head into the office for some of those guys. Now, and I know we'll talk because we got the show tomorrow. I know Craig was talking about just potential goals and targets for July 1st. And he talked about maybe depth goaltending. We asked them about that with the uncertainty. I guess it's uncertainty, just whatever. But injuries, they can take a while with. what's up for Ledar and you know that

is going to be the guy and and what they'll do on the blue line. They've got so much money. They could they could do some big money short term stuff. And I know we've talked about that. I wonder if Flames fans almost have to kind of brace themselves to be ready to see maybe some big numbers, some four or fives, maybe like something in six.

But keep an eye on the term to see what that ends up being because really salary cap is of zero consequence. for this thing. Yeah, I don't, I don't know that it would happen Monday, but if the market for a player isn't there that the agent thought there would be, let's go to Calgary short term, get a higher AAB than we were looking for anyway, have a good year, be in bigger spots, and then, you know, basically kick it down the road for a year and see if we can't get what we were looking for next summer.

In the goalie market, I think you're looking at sort of that two, three type guy. I don't know where Cam Talbot's at in terms of what the ask would be, but he's 36. Would he come somewhere for a million and a half, two million? That's a nice, you know, insulation. Yeah, it might be one of those things where a guy has played enough years. Either he's won or he hasn't won and he just looks at it and thinks, I've got a couple years left. Let's try and pad the checking account as much as we can here.

And the kids trust fund. Let's see how much we can get into that because Calgary is paying more. anybody else might be at this point, even though we might not do a bunch of winners. And that's why I don't think it's a Monday thing, because I think if you're 36 years old and you've got a year or two left, you immediately look at where can I win. But there's a lot of guys that won't, you know, get interest from contenders. Like, where's Cam Talbot going to sign that could win a cup? Just for example.

So maybe it's August or September. And it's like, yeah, I'll show up for a million bucks, I guess, because, you know, Colorado didn't want me. And I think there's certainly, it would make sense to go get another defender. I want to see what happens with Schillington here. We all assumed it would be done. It isn't yet, but that doesn't mean it won't get done. But if they don't get them done, which I think is still the least likely outcome,

they're going to go spend on a defenseman because, again, you can give more A.A.V. shorter term. And when this team's competitive again, it's not an onerous contract. And they just need to insulate a rookie goaltender this year, whatever you'd call Dustin Wolf. Yeah. How many career starts? Has he got 18 or something?

Yeah, he's a rookie goalie for all intents and purposes. But you're right. They've got plenty of bodies on the blue line. Yeah, I mean, lots of depth. Not a lot of top four. Yeah, it's not a lot of, and it sounds shitty to say, but it's not a ton of quality there to insulate the young goalie who might need some help over the course of a season.

So let's say like it's an Alex Carrier, Matt Roy, someone like that. And some of those guys are going to be popular and they're going to go to contenders. but someone that you know is a second pair of guy, that's what they should spend on if they're going to spend anything in free agency because Miramatov has been played as a top four. That would be a heck of a jump to be an eight in Vegas last year

and then suddenly be a four. Shillington hasn't looked like a four without Chris Tandov next to him. Probably could be. Didn't look great with Rasmus last year. Showed flashes of what his skills are. Maybe he doesn't even show up. But really you have two guys you absolutely know are top four defensemen. It's Rasmus and Weeger.

So if they went and spent five, six million bucks on a two-year deal for someone that you just know can play, you know, 18, 19 minutes a night, it wouldn't stun me. I still sit and I, I don't know. We always get excited. Remember last year before the draft, we were all pumped up

about potential moves and then nothing happened. Every team kept its pick. But it sure feels the combination between, we've already talked about the Ottawa's, the Buffalo's teams, have picked plenty in the in the first round they pick high they've picked low they got they've spent all the picks they need to they need to start to turn the corner yeah and the uncertainty of the ranking of the draft if there's if there's some teams that just have guys that different and they just it seems sure seems like they do if you believe what you hear guys if we had him in the in top five

and here he is at 25 that sort of thing what what we could expect and I said it I said it after the Markstrom deal, but I feel like trades have got to be done for, for Conroy at this point. But that said, we don't know what the conversations are with Sharon Govich. We don't know what's being said, if anything, with the Raspus Anderson camp. That'd be the other thing. It's one thing for Coleman and Cadry to maybe be down in the mouth watching guys get help for Raspis Anderson. He's like, I'm in my prime.

Yeah. What are we doing here in Calvary? it could be almost a pseudo Matthew Kachuk thing where I do not intend to be signing an extension it's a ways out but I I do not see an extension coming so I'll just give that I'll give you that information and you're free to do with it what you will and yeah Conroy takes it he kind of floated his own name in trade rumors last year which was odd um I wouldn't be surprised if behind the scenes there'd be a preference to get elsewhere for all the things you said His window does not match the flames.

I mean, we talked about it with Mark's term. It's not an if for me, it's when. Like signing Rasmus Anderson to eight a year times eight when he's going to be 31, the first year of the deal, doesn't seem to fit what they're trying to do here, especially if they get to nab a defenseman in the top 10 in this draft class. So we'll see. I don't think, you know, to the point we made earlier, like there's no pressure point on Rasmus. You've got two years to figure it out.

but if the right pick shows up at the right spot and the right player slides, maybe you say now's the time and we'll go replace them in free agency on a short-term thing. We'll see. Like New Jersey doesn't need to pick. Detroit, pressure is starting to crank up on Stevie Y. Buffalo, everyone's necks are on the chopping block. Ottawa, it's time to be competitive. Utah, you got a brand new owner, a new market.

You want to be competitive immediately. that's five picks in the top 15 that I don't think anyone would be stunned if they moved out of those to get a player. Yeah. So Andrew Madrapani is a Washington Capitol. The flames got a second round pick. It was the original property of the Colorado Avalanche, a second rounder in 2025. So it's another one of these picks that you just got to wait for it. You get excited.

What's a good first rounder in 2025, 2026. So it's a full on rebuild. No question about it. And I guess we'll see what they're able to pull off at the draft coming up as early as tomorrow. So I guess just finally final thoughts on Manjapani. He was a fan favorite. Yeah. I don't know how much was expected of him at the draft.

It was just a guy out of Barry. I remember Dale Howard Chuck, his coach, said, this guy, this guy's going to play. This guy is going to play NHL games. And Manjapani surprised even him because this was the 35 goals was great. but he was I mean he was kind of an analytic darling right like he was

yeah with 3M line right like him and back linden Coleman and before that it would have been a Matthew Kachuk in there and even a for a leak at some point like this was a very effective middle six winger for the flames and if you can get a guy to sign a pro contract out of the sixth round you've beaten the odds never mind

graduate from American league to the NHL and be a depth guy but like Yeah, he's one of the better picks they've made. Certainly not the best. It's not Cichuk. It's not Fox. It's not Monaghan. But to get a guy out of the sixth round that's having a heck of a solid career,

like a guy that's going to play hundreds and hundreds of games. That's a huge win. And he's got a chance to try to be competitive with Washington. It's certainly a different spot than the Flames. They're trying to convince themselves they can win where the flames are like, yeah, we'd rather develop a kid or use that slum. lot to get more assets and played six full seasons in calgary that was a hell of a draft pick andrew magic danny was a hell of a calgary flame hell yeah sure so what is the what is the story for

tomorrow for you because i know there were plans and then plans change what's happening for barn burner tomorrow well i'm looking at the screen i think priority number one is going to be finding some aloeuvrea i didn't realize i was matching my shirt um i just thought if i maybe just kept the brinked rim tilted a bit. You know what? The reflection. How could you have known Vegas in late June, right? How could you have known?

I'm just going to stay till the end of the first half. He's like, well, and then this guy, I'll get around. We'll stay for the second half. And then it's like by the time you put the Santan lotion on, it's too late. We're going to have a watch party tomorrow night, 4 p.m. Vegas time, five Calgary time. Roll through the whole draft. We've got Kent will join us.

Michael join us. Pike will be around. Cammy made a cameo on the show today. If we get a Western League or taking a nine, absolutely. We got to check in with her to get a little more intel on the human that the flames have selected. And I don't know. If Country Fest isn't rolling yet,

it's not that late out there by the time pick number nine rolls in. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it's Country Fest tomorrow. So is that going to be in lieu? Is that in lieu of the regular show? That's correct. We don't have a show tomorrow, but we're going to do the big probably three to four hour watch party is what I think we should forecast it as.

I think it was three and a half, the first round last year, maybe a little longer. It's a lot. And they pick it 28. You can't just duck out after nine. You know what? I don't know if it's ever been said that might be too much pender. Three and a half straight hours, solid hours of it might be.

That I've thought about that a lot. And Mike and Kent are literally just going to do some stuff. Because people are going to need a break from me. I'm going to need a break from me. facilities will need to be used. And we are indoors. And we don't get a break from you very often. When I sleep.

You don't get a break from you. Yeah, you don't get a break from you. And I like the cameo. That's what it needs to be. Whenever we get came on, it's a cameo. It's a cameo. That's for sure.

Yeah. And yeah, I guess my final thought is, like, we talk about a pick and when it is and when a player might arrive. There's so many picks that the Calgary Flames have right now that I don't expect them to ever stand to the podium in use. I'm fascinated. see what they do tomorrow in terms of upping the quality using the strength of the quantity of picks that they have.

Yeah. A lot of times the head scout and all the scouts get together draft weekend and either they don't have a first or the GM trades the first. Yeah. It trades a bunch of picks. The flame scouts are a very excited crew, I would think. Yes. Because they've got a lot of their hard work is going to be looking to come to fruition here.

Because like you say, even if they move a pick or two. they've got such a surplus of picks. It's going to be something to watch. So back to the pool? Potentially. Well, what's the score in that Jay's game? They were beating up on the Yankees last they saw. I think we're out of time.

Out of time. Out of time. All right. All right. All right. Alovera. There you go. See you, buddies.

Thanks, Steve.