Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Martin Gelinas (FULL INTERVIEW) | FN Barn Burner - September 17th, 2024

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

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I wonder if we'll ask about it. We should not ask about the 0-4 run. Now, the puck, do you think it was in? It was, because some will say it was on it. Do you ever get asked about that? It's all the time. It's crazy. But I do, I do enjoy it.

And I did, I think I did tell you that I went to the NHL office the next year. And they were adamant that it was, they had all the calculations. Of course. Yeah. We can talk about it because I'm part of the three of the, if you Google five worst goals in NHL history, I'm part of three. Is that right? The one Buffalo. Yours, Buffalo.

And the year after Buffalo, we played Philly in the final, or in the first round. Yeah. And Leclair shot a puck through the side of the net. And the counted goal winner. Yeah. Yeah. Darcy Riggur was snapping. He was kicking the door to the whatever video world trying to get in there.

Trying to get in. They had it locked. One Buffalo suck, huh? What's amazing is, and we are going. We're into it now. These stories, they stay year after year. I hear the Leclair through the side of the net story every six, eight months. So it doesn't really go away.

I'm sure that it won't for you. Now, I went through kind of your bio here, and I guess I didn't realize, you know, I read three cup finals. You went to four. Yeah. And got the one real early. How is it sitting with, you've got the cup ring as a kid, but then three losses.

How does that sit with you now in your old age? Well, I'm grateful. Like now I'm thinking about it because when our first, my first cup was, I was 19 years old. So, so I mean, I'm in, I'm just, you don't know. just playing the game. I mean, I'm sitting in that room and you got Messia, you got Anderson, you got Curry, Ticking in Simpson. I mean, the list goes on. I mean, Batavish, Kevin Lowe. I think we've got some, I was looking around. There's some baby Marty Jell in a video. Is that right? I don't know if you've seen it. But yeah, you were, I mean, you're,

always in shape. You're, you're very, you know, clean. Look at this guy. Look at this. Look at him. Look at the buzz cut. Oh, my God. That is funny. That is price. Oh, my God. Look at you. That seems like 100 years ago. Isn't that crazy?

Yeah. But that is exactly we had, what, those are good footage. Where did you get that? That's amazing. That ping pong table actually was so much fun. Like,

you know what it brings people together? Like it really brought our team together. Everybody was playing all the time. I love the pennies on the jerseys Now we got red, white, gold, and so on. And every kid that signs up for a hockey school gets a new, like, you get a jersey. Like 8,000 jerseys are accumulated. Did I just pop one there?

You popped one there, Marty. That must have been my only one. That was number 26. You're back to Hall a few days later, I think, as I recall. Yeah, you know, I was there when I was 18 years old, you know, it's amazing how, you're young and you make decisions. So I was there for, I think I played six games until Christmas. And Glenn Sater took me to his office.

He was the coach at the time and you say, hey, do you want to, because back then you didn't have that roster limit. You could keep guys around forever. You said, do you want to stay here? Do you want to go back, junior? I'd say, hey, I like to go back junior. And I didn't go back junior because I thought it was the right thing for me to do to play. Because I was missing my friends.

I was 18 years old and I just wanted to be around what was familiar and what I had success the year before and so on. And you think it's going to be the same thing. And then you go back there and you realize, it's not quite the same thing. So, yeah, the grass is not always greener. Not always greener. I got, there's another video, you know, I never thought about it. We won't be able, we'll just skip it because we don't have the headphones. But young Marty Jelena also slept in one day.

Do you remember that? Did you, you know what? it was, actually, it was, what round was it? Was it third round? It was against Chicago. And not, you would test. Like, I was young, not because I was drinking the night before, but I just went to bed. And I slept in, and then finally, they were phone in my house.

I was staying with the, remember Dave Shizowski? So I was living with his mom and dad, and everybody was gone. So it was just me at home. and slept in and now it's easy with your phone, you just put your alarm, but I'm not sure what happened. But the story goes, they were banging on your door. So they were calling. They were calling.

They were. And then finally, I went to answer the door. The cups were there. The lights were on. No way. Oh, yeah. And then I said, what's going on? And I said, well, practice started like five minutes ago.

So they say, get on your car, and they buzz me right to the rink. I'm following. We're speeding all the way to the rink. And then, yeah, I sure did that day. That's called the lack of, and, I mean, it's the Stanley Cup. Like, you know what I mean? But, again, just a young guy. And you're the last guy. You would know.

Oh, yeah. Boosin? Was he out doing? I'm jelling us out again. We've got to go get him out of bed. He's so tired from all the sit-ups and push-ups. But not been anything else. I was not quite there at that age.

I was into fitness, but not crazy. You know, we'll get there. There's a lot of things. We'll talk about the Cups and all that. And I'm not sure how up the speed you are on your own numbers, because I'm not good with numbers, but I've got a few that I want to walk through. But with the HoloN Peak, as a 17 and 18-year-old,

101 goals in 106 games. It is crazy. As a 17- and 18-year-old. You know what? But the first year, to be honest with you, it kind of came from me. nowhere too because I think I told you that story so so midget triple a go underage they cut me I'm 136 pounds they say you're too small so I go back and play to my own town in Schoenigan

and and the best caliber of hockey I can play at the time supposed to be bantam it's midget double C so they're all kind of older beard and so on not a lot of practice not a lot of so but that year I made a commitment to start working out and so on. And then, so gain about 35 pounds, went back midget AAA, played there. And I had a decent year, got drafted second overall in the queue. And then starting in Hall, just didn't know what to expect, right? Like I'm from a small town where no one really made it. And playing with some good players, playing with Mark Silumier and Beno O'Bun.

and things were just clicking. I was going to say, I don't, Benoit Brunet people will know. I don't know who Mark Solier. If you look at his stats, he was tough. 59 games, 52 goals, 166 points. I don't remember Benoit Brunet being a sniper, but he had 50 or 60. He was really good, too. We had a good team, Jr., too, but Vigno was my coach.

Give me a lot of ice time, and I don't know, things were just kind of clicking. And then next year went to Emmerton. That was a year where they sent me back. But the cue's soft, right? Very soft. So I always say, you know, everyone I see, I see, I tell them, I said the cue is the hardest league to play tough. It's really tough.

The target. Yeah, you got to be tough. You've got to be tough to play there. Drafted seventh overall by L.A. and 88. and I was taking a look at, so Medano goes first to Dallas, then it's Trevor Lyndon to Vancouver. Curtis Lishishin goes to Quebec,

Darren Shannon, Pittsburgh, Danielle Dorre, or Dorey to Quebec. That's right, big guy, yeah. And Scott Pearson to Toronto, and then you go. So all due respect to Dore and Pearson and Shannon. Gellena, then Rowanick, then Brindamore, then Salati. That's, I mean, some pretty good picks that went after.

top there maybe after Lyndon and Medan. You know what? It's the size matters approach again. Some of those big. Pearson was big, right? Shannon was a big guy. Yeah, but Roddy is just a little bit, a little, maybe an inch,

an inch and a half taller, but he's just, he was built. Yeah. Yeah. So then Roanick was tall, but he was skinny. Yeah. Play with him my second year in Hall.

Yeah. He went up to Hull? You went to a hub to Hull? Yeah. We had a great team. Like the second year, so the year that... How much were they paying all you guys? I was getting paid 23 blocks a week.

I'm not sure what JR was getting paid. But he was so good. So the year that Sater came to me and said, what do you want to do? I went back junior and JR was there. We had a really, really good team. It just didn't quite click. But he was so good, JR.

Yeah. Talented. Just so fast, so talented. he had a chip on his shoulder, you know what I mean? But not in a bad way, just in a good way. And he had some pushback to his game. So he was actually fun to watch. Yeah, good for him.

This year, getting inducted to the Hall of Fame, right? So get on them. So Quebec goes twice in that draft before you. Now being Schwinnigan, are you a Quebec? Are you a Nordicca? I'm going to have this one. Blue Blanc, so, yeah, I grew up watching I love Gilafleur and so on.

But Montreal was my team. And you got to realize, too, that Quebec came later on too. So as a young kid, my dad's a barber, always cheer for the abs. So I was a big abs. Did he give you that buzz cut you had in that? You know what? You know when you're a kid, you want to loan,

you want to be cool and so on? Could never be cool because my dad was a barber. So, but you get, again, you get drafted, by L.A. and you were a king for about 59 days. Yes. And I went, do you have, what King, what Los Angeles memories do you have of draft day? Do you have any, do you have your jersey? Do you have any Kings gear? I do have my jersey and I go to my mom and dad in Schuigan and someone must give them a clock. And I had that bus cut and I got the purple jersey and I got Rogi Vachon and Bruce McNeil on each side. And that's still the

picture that is on the clock at home. It was purple and the old jerseys too. You don't think about that. But they were, back then they were, they were ugly. But now they're pretty, they're kind of trendy again. They're pretty cool. So a story about the drafts. So, you know, back then you didn't have the, you know, you go and visit and talk to the

team and so on. But surprisingly, L.A. invited me to go to, to, uh, to Los Angeles. So I don't speak a word of English. So I get on the plane, get to L.A. and get to the airport, and no one's there. So I'm like, where do I go?

Like, you know, everything is kind of taken care of, like junior, go to hotels and so on. So finally I phone Rogi. I say, hey, what do I do? He said, oh, I just take the shuttle, go to the hotel. is the Marriott just down the road. So go to the Marriott and you say, I'll pick you up tomorrow. So the next day picks me up, takes me for dinner.

And following day, I'm on the plane, back. And I'm thinking, that's not going to go anywhere. Like, there's really, it didn't feel a lot of love. Yeah. And sure enough, they picked me. So, yeah, it was surprised a little bit. So 59 days later, the trade, it's for everybody, it's so funny. Where were you? Everyone remembers where they were. You were in it. What do you remember

about August 9th, 1988? I was working at hockey school and not, you know, there was no rumor. There was no speculation. Something was going to happen. And then working at hockey school, I get a phone call. Well, it's kind of started that some people would say, hey, you just got traded. And it just kind of Like people were just kind of talking. I'm saying, okay. Like, whatever. And I assume people that are listening or watching this know what we're talking about. If you don't.

When we talk about the trade, you don't think people understand. The Wayne Gretzky trade, Marty Jeline, I was in that. So sorry. Well, thank you. And then trades like that just didn't happen. And then first, and then they started saying, you got traded for Wing Gretzky. And I say, you kind of say, yeah, really? Really?

And then, sure enough, soon after. someone phone you but it but you got to realize you don't have any cell phone back then some someone phone the snack bar at the at the rink where I'm doing the hockey school and then it's Glenn Sater that is on the phone and he said hey we just we just traded for you and you imagine grumpy Sather trying to track him down where is this kid he's that I'm he's calling the snack bar and then and then it's probably the last thing Slats wanted to do is talk like he was probably so upset that he lost Gretzky.

Yeah, you guys had to get rid of Gratz. And now, no, I got to get you, Marty. Oh, we're so excited. Really? So, like, what do you think about, what do you think about that trade? Like, biggest, probably back then, probably the biggest trade in sports history, right? And to lose winning Gretzky, who's a fan favorite and then you think you're going to have him forever.

That was a big blow for it for this. city. So thank God I was just a draft pick and not a player established in the NHL. I think the pressure when you look at the pressure on. Yeah like Jimmy Carson. Sure there's expectation but not as much as a plurter is established and had success in the NHL. And it helped I think too that it was so clear what it was three picks, $15 million. But that's what it was. Right? It's not like any fans would be sitting well let's let's see how these kids turn out. Maybe this. Maybe this This would be a good hockey trade for us. Everyone knew what it was.

But still had to be difficult for you. You know what? I like to see maybe I was naive and young. It was not hard. It was just kind of unproven, never played in the NHL, just trying to make it to the NHL, try to play. Yeah, I was disappointed, to be honest with you, when it first happened,

because I had a good field that I was going to start playing at 18 years old in L.A. Like just kind of get a good, good chance. And you get traded to Edmonton, you look at the roster, and you say, whoof, that's a, that's a little tougher lineup to crack. Still pretty good, even with Gretzky and McSorley and Crucialty. Oh, yeah, great. When you think of your, I mean, you got, yeah, I mean, we talk about Messi and Anderson, Cury, all-famer, Tickinen, Peter Clema, good player.

Yeah, so, yeah, so a little disappointed, but kind of all work. out? Yeah, somehow it just kind of worked out, I guess. Yeah, I guess it's kind of worked out. We'll get there. So, yeah, that first year, 18, you go back to Hall, then you come back for your 19, the 89, 90 season with the oilers. Are you, you must then think, I'm staying. This team can be good as it wants to be.

I'm staying. I'm pushing. Like, that summer I kind of trained in your, I'm not training with, I'm doing a lot of volume, but it's kind of my own, you know. Making it up, you think, yeah, yeah. You didn't have a program back then. But so I had a really good, I thought it was a good summer, but and then, but a lot of it is mental too. So the closest gym to my hometown was 25 clicks away. So I told my mom and dad, I say, hey, I'm going to ride my bike to the gym, do my workout, come back.

And they say, well, it's just going to be a matter of time before. this that and then I did it all summer so there's a lot of volume all summer and and made that team that year and then again you know when your first round pick you're going to get more looks and you're going to get more chances and especially now with that trade now looking back like like Emmetons probably we're saying to themselves like we got to we got to play this kit We've got to make this work. We've got to make this work, right? So I think I got more looks.

Well, it's the kid. I'm grateful. Like, you know, I'm not looking back saying, but grateful that kind of all worked out. Because people remember you and Graves and Joe Murphy. It's the kid line. People remember that. You guys worked well together. And we did.

You know what? It's interesting because during the season, we had a few games where we play together, but not a lot. first two games of the playoff I didn't even play like we were down and and the team was flat and I remember muckler putting and I say hey we need some some juice some energy and put our our line together and Murphy was so good like he was so good like in the middle like his skill set was incredible and you look at his stats that year you didn't have like unbelievable stats. Gravy was really good too. And it just kind of, we brought energy, got some key goals, but that's what the element that team needed. It was a little bit of a boost to kind

of get them over the hump, and then Messier took over. And there's a game in Boston, the final where Curry score three goals. Like just, you know what I mean? Those guys, Anderson, like different times, they just kind of took over. They had that ability just to step up, hey? Like that lineup was, and like you said a couple minutes ago, they just dumped the greatest player ever, maybe, and two other real important pieces. And you still had Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame, Hall of Fame player.

But it could change the game, and it's hard to do now with the salary cap, but didn't have that back then. And then Anderson, when he was on, unstoppable, so fast. Curie is brain and the way he can make plays like unbelievable. And then Messier was just probably, I mean, you had an edge to him

and just the way he play and some grit and leadership. Like whatever it takes to win. You had that. Joe Murphy. Yeah. Not extremely talented. Super talented.

Like, like, Like, skill-wise, probably, I mean, probably one of the most talented player. Like, could skate at a great shot. Yeah. Kind of got by on that skill alone, right? Because there were other things going on. He was not a fitness freak, right? It was his ability to go out and just play and play at that high level.

Yeah. And make things work. And his hockey acue was elite. Like, he had the whole package. It was just unfortunate. it now. Yeah, it's a tough story right now. Yeah, for sure. Go ahead. Well, no, I was just going to walk through that playoff. Round one, you're down 3-1, as I recall, to Winnipeg. Correct. And then come roaring back to win that. Breaking poor boom-boom's heart. Yeah. Dave Allett, game four,

up three to one. Nothing could go wrong now. And then you guys just destroy L.A. in round two. Yeah. Four games sweep. You score in game one and game two, which had to I did. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'm against your former team. Yeah. What do you remember, do you remember much about that because obviously it's still hurting? It's the trade is about a year more removed, but still that was a big one, I would think, to get over those guys.

For the city? For the team, just like beating Wayne? Yeah, I think it was more so for, yeah, to kind of show that, hey, we're still relevant. We still can't win, even though we don't have. though we don't have the best player in the world. So, yeah, I think that was a big one. And after that, it was just kind of smooth sailing. Not smooth sailing, but pretty good.

Well, it was L.A. in four, then Chicago and six, Boston in five. And it felt like that was, they say... Chicago is the one that slept in. Yeah. That's right. I like to sleep in now, man. Yeah. Muckler was, Muckler was, he said he better get a hat trick tonight.

Yeah. Something like that. You know, he was good. Sorry, go ahead. Yeah. And then I'm just so many things going through this yesterday. You were part of so many moments that maybe like the Gretzky first game back to Edmonton. You're in that one.

You're part of the Gretzky trade. Peter Klima in triple overtime for the Oilers. And he'd been sitting on the bench forever, hadn't he? I can remember. watched that my game and Kleema hadn't played. He didn't play for two and a half period. He's just sitting there and then out of nowhere muckler said the Lima so he's just like he had the bucket now and he goes on the ice and Peter you got to realize Peter was this like talking about good players he was a good

player really good player fast little but but can make things work and score in overtime it was It was a big one. Was it a laugh for guys afterwards? We were, you know, you play, like, you go that long, we're all just kind of wiped and not even overly thinking of it and so on. I just happened to up. We came out on top, yeah. 7 to 2, you win in game 2, lose 2 to 1, then win 5-1,

then win 4 to 1 to win it. You assist on a Joe Murphy goal, so you get a little apple there in the clinching game. Stanley Cup. comes out. You guys are at the Boston Garden. What do you remember about that night? Like you know what? Craig McTavish, who was in Boston before, organized we, you couldn't get on the plane. Well, I guess you could have, but you just, it was just you stay there. And the next day you fly back. So we stay there. MacTie had a nice restaurant in old Boston where it was all, we had cups making sure that it was just the team and so on.

And with social media back then, it's not like it was great. Like it was just the team, and we're at the bar all night and joined the cup. And I remember I still have pictures of the cups were on bikes, like the chips, you know. Yeah, yeah. And I still got the picture with the cups. Cups and the Stanley Cups. So pretty cool. We had a good time.

And next day, got on the plane. Yeah. Yeah. Do you feel like it's made a bit? I don't know how to describe what I was trying to say, but like it was a shared event amongst your team and it wasn't a like, it's not a criticism, but Panthers win last year. And they're jumping into the beach and they've got the crowd and they're pouring it

into everybody's mouth and Ovechkin and Vegas and this and I almost wonder if I value what you guys did more with the cup than maybe being that massive party where... More quality time.

Yes. Just the group. We went through this together. Let's just close the doors and be together. Yeah. It was and that's what it was, right? And it's just...

And you got to realize, too, a lot of the guys in that team, it was not their first one, right? So they celebrated and they enjoyed it. But it's not like when it's your first one, it's like everything is kind of exciting and so on. Probably more so for Murph and Gravy and so on. But most of the guys in that team at four already.

I don't want to derail this, but I lost three cups and I always felt that one of the driving factors for myself was the fact that I hadn't won. Yeah. Is the joy of winning it as inspiring to do it again as the, like you've lost as well? But as the failure of losing it and trying to get back there? Do you know what I mean?

I think so. There has to be a reason that some of these guys win over and over and over again. Clearly they're winners. Clearly they have a great idea of how to go about it and to treat it. But what I always thought, like, if I had one, would I be as motivated? There could be a tendency. I think you taste it. You want it even more.

You want more and more. Yeah. And all the guys in that room were competitor. Like, they wanted to win, right? Like, you look at Kevin Lowe, and looking back now, and you realize, so he invited all the young guys when we're young to his house. And I remember walking to his house, and he had in the shelf there, he had four Stanley Cup, four Campbell Trophy. And then what you're saying is, like, why would you want one more? Yeah, because it's not easy.

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So four years in Edmonton, you win a cup there. They traded for you, I guess. You're an oiler, right? I think probably, like you said, once you win together, that crests, you're an oiler. Yeah. Then you're traded to Quebec. How did the barber take the trade to...

You with my dad was so excited. Yeah. I think people in Quebec were excited too. I was excited because last couple years in Emmetton didn't quite work out the way I wanted to, and then it was on me. I was young and immature and thinking the world was against me, and I was not getting the stats. I wanted to get.

And went to Quebec City thinking, okay, this is my chance to kind of make it, make it work and it didn't quite work out that way. We had a great team there in Quebec City too. You look at Joe Sackick and Sundeen and Kerminski. Owen Nolan was there a bit too, right? And you believe sorry to interrupt you, though. Like, I love Wendell Clark. He's from Saskatchewan.

He was an idol growing up. Sundeen? Like, you had Spackick and Sundeen in that line. Like, oh my God. Some players, huh? Yeah. Yeah. Really, really good team.

but they made, so they put me on the waiver, not because I was playing bad at, I don't think, but I think they had a big trade brewing, so they put me on the waiver, and probably it was the lowest point in my career. This is in Quebec, so you get traded to Quebec, you're with the Nordiques, you play there for 31 games, and yeah, they put you on waivers.

I'm not even sure what my stats were, but I knew I was leading in the league after one game I had two points, I think. So, uh, six goals and, uh, six helpers in 31 games. Okay. So, you know, I look at climatizing it, the language barrier. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's right.

Yeah, that's right. Yeah, that's right. And you would think it would be really easy. It actually makes it harder because now you got a, you're the one who's got to deal with the press all the time and so on. And the team was not playing good. I remember we came back from our trip to Vancouver and people are in the airport, had bags on their heads.

And so on. They take it personal. They do. They take it personal. So, yeah. But ended up in Vancouver and got the fire again to kind of show what I was capable of doing. And I'm grateful and thankful for Pat Quinn. Right away, give me a chance to play with, put me with Trevor Lyndon and Paddle Burry.

And it worked out okay there. Yeah, it did. Yeah. So I, do you think, sorry, the fact that, like you said, you get to Vancouver and it turns for you. Clearly you got put in a position. So you know what I. But was the waiver a bit of a wake up call? 100%.

Like it's just like, okay. If, if, you know what, if I don't make this work, I'm going to be in the minors. And I might be out of the job. So from that point on, I always always. work but without really you know what i mean but i was out of plan yeah but from that point on i said i'm going to be the hardest working guy and and i became in the gym this is where it kind of turned for me that i was i went above and beyond and did a lot more than everybody and at that time it you could go above and beyond i think in today's world these kids are so yeah it's there's a

high standard that's set but back in that day there was still a lot of room for growth as far as condition. And when you think about players, like you're a defenseman, you're probably playing between 18 and 24 minutes, whatever. But I would third line forward. I'm going to play 11, 12. If I get 14 minutes, that's a lot of minutes.

So nothing to save it for, really. So I start doing a lot more in the gym, so on. And then determined to make it happen. And again, I go back. to a good coach, Pat Quinn, give me a chance, an opportunity to play with some good players. And, yeah, it was a turning point in my career there.

And even still, the Canucks, they're an okay team because you go into the playoffs as the seventh seed out of the west. As I didn't realize it was that big of a, you went to four cup finals, you were underdogs in all of them. Yeah. Decided underdogs in at least three of the four for sure. But the first one, to be honestly,

the first one, we're an underdog, but we got some players that can make it happen, right? Yeah. In Vancouver, you look at that team, we still have some good players. Sure. Like players that can change the game on a dime, our team in 2004, I'm sure we'll get there, we had one guy that could really change, or two guys that could change the game, and one was stopping the pocket, and the other one was scoring goals. So that game in 94, I mean, Trevor Linden is a good player.

Pavell Bure is a good player. Mary Craven is a good player. Sergio Mommessio is a good journey. You know what I mean? Cliff Roning is a good player. So we have some players that can make things happen. Moments. He's been part of a few of them.

Round one, it's the Canucks and the Flames. You're down three games to one to Calgary. Win game five in overtime. win game six in overtime. And then, of course, who could forget, you were part of this one. Sorry, Flames fans. We were down, oh, wow, yeah.

That was it courts? Oh, no, it was it Paddle? What a goal, huh? He said afterwards, he was asked about, well, how about the pass? I'm on a breakaway. Of course, I'm going to score. And that was his man.

Well, I was on the baseball saying that? Yeah. Is that right? I was on a breakaway. I mean, yeah, I'm going to score. about the pass. But look, uh,

and then Brown, it was Brown probably. Yeah. Uh, and he was a good player. Jeff Brown, right? Yeah,

got it from St. Louis. Great, great, great, great player. And you're right. I mean,

it's like the speed that, yeah, but talking about it's speed, like you look at McDavid's speed, uh, pedal be right from point A to point B is, it was amazing. Yeah.

I played with them for about a month in Florida. Did you? This is next level. Yeah. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. That's a pretty good move.

I like the fact that he just knows. It's not like his heads up. He's probably got a sense about it. And it's like, yeah, I know where you're going to do. Yeah. I got you. Yeah. He never missed.

Well, he had so many chances. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, because of his speed, he would get a lot of, you would miss. Yeah. But he had so many breakaways, so many chances and so powerful. In that playoff, he didn't score until game five of that Flame series. So he was under the gun.

And Pat Quinn kept playing him and playing him, scores in game five. Then there he had one prior to that, gets the series winning goal, and then had 13 in his next 17 playoff games. That's pretty good. So just to light it right up. Yeah. And you got to give credit to Pat Quinn too, right? To kind of believe, like he knows, right? It's just a matter of time before it's going to happen.

So Calgary done in round one. it's Dallas in five in round two Do you remember that series Do you remember the hit of Burry on Trilla? I don't know I don't know. I mean it was incredible because you think about Pavel Burry you're thinking about his core

but he was running around on the other side and Pavel from nowhere Oh my God it was incredible I wish you had it on tape but that was Pavel Burick Like he could hit, he could score, he could fly on the ice. So sorry. And it's crazy you think about all the talk of travel and stuff now.

So it's round three, Toronto versus Vancouver. Yeah. In round three, you don't see that anymore. Again, moments. And this is one that, again, leave fans won't remember it. another series ender as this is this is in double O.T. Poor, poor Leafs.

I think it's coming. I think it's coming. Yeah, you know what? That one was really unexpected because they had a much better, better team. The whole series, a little bit like our 2004, was kind of unexpected. Like it just kind of snowballed.

You found belief. You find belief, yeah. And then you win. And again, that's, oh, that's Gus. And Gus is another good player. You know what I'm talking about even now. Older is still good in the alumni skates. Yeah.

Still flies around. And then it's, so you're off. That's to go to the cup final and play the Rangers, who were president's trophy winners. You were again, seventh coming out of the West. And I looked there were six Hall of Famers on that Rangers team. Zubov, Messia, Anderson, Kevin Lowe, Leach, Gardner. So no shame.

Rangers are very good team. Let's go. Now, you were very active in game one. You were right in the mix. I don't know if you, do you remember much about game one? Madison Square Garden. Well, we'll take a look here. I don't remember a thing.

This is Marty Jellina. He'll be on the bottom of your screen. One of those Hall of Famers, Brian Leach. Just a little hippie. Just a little hip check there. It was offside, dirty play, right? I think they blew it down on the offside, but... Well, I was on a receiving end.

I like to be on the other side. I took some tumbles over the year, man. I was going to say... That was good. Shane Shurla got you with a sucker punch. You took a lot of sucker punches and elbows in your career, too. Now, I believe it's the same game. Tight hockey game.

and Mike Richter, who is not a Hall of Famer. I thought he would have been a Hall of Famer. He is not, huh? No. Huh. Interesting. You think you would have thought that too. Yeah.

Do you remember this one? Because a goal at this point would be a big one. So again, it's Gelena. Up the right side, a little give and go. Oh, yeah. That would have been the clincher. That would have been a big one. That would have been a big one.

Yeah. So miss that one. And then. Thanks, fool. Well, it gets better. And then Nathan Lafayette missed another one right after, and then that could have been the difference maker. It's amazing.

It's a game of inches. It is. Yeah. Now the inches come back around. Yeah. It's a Ranger lead. One minute left in the third period. Game one.

Jelinea is not going to be denied. Watch the hands. You talk about hockey. IQ, the puck presence. Leach can't get it out. Brings it around. Jelinea, where do you go to the net? Go to the net. And you tip that, right?

You got a piece of that, I think, right? I'm not sure. That's you. Look at the quality of footage. 23. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, Quinn's playing it cool. Yeah.

But that one, you made up for the open net. I'm not sure if I made up for it. Well, all these years later, was that 90? Who was the score of that first one? This game won. Yeah. You tie it. I think I made it 2-2 or 1-1.

Anyway, that sends it to overtime. Obviously, with a minute left in the third period, Rangers thought they were going to cruise. Yeah. And then more moments. You were a part of a lot of them. Huh. It gets to OT in game.

one. And your buddy, Gus Adams, he was, comes through. He was lights out. Yeah, he was. That's a shot off the crossbar by Ryan. Look at that play though. Uh, of, look at this. Pavel, patience. What a goal. That was a nice goal. But he started with Pavel there at the blue line making that play and Cliffy. Fifty four saves, I think for old Kirk, Kirk McLean, who was un-old. He was lights out. Oh, he was late so i mean the season you made the first round against uh against the flames and kept us in the game the footage is not great but that's right that is drilled off of the crossbar leech does not miss from there but zing that is that was a nice uh nice patience by cliffy good player yeah really good player yeah uh yeah that is a nice start

feel good yeah well spoiler yes going back to ninety before things didn't go as well after that game two rangers come back three to one to Vancouver five one rangers four two rangers down three to one heading to madison square garden you win six three in game five four one in game six and then of course it's but puckered time yeah messier and the rangers and the guarantee and he's on broadway well you didn't guarantee that one yeah i guess he guaranteed the jersey series going in yeah that's right but they were Because you guys, they already did it to Calvary. You guys were coming back on just about everybody, right?

Yeah. And I always say that, like, game seven, it could go either way. You know what I mean? Like ours, like last year, Emmettin. Yeah, it could go either way. So, and we're feeling like we're not going there thinking we're winning for sure, but we think we got a pretty good chance. And I imagine on their side, they think they got a pretty good chance.

The advantage they had on their side, you're talking about all the famers, guys that won the Cup and so on, we just didn't have that on our side. Yeah. Because they had Hall of Famers, but like you say, they also, Craig McTavish was there.

They had guys that had won. Kevin, mess. Guys are won. Yeah, yeah. Guys have been part of winning team and know how to win and so on. When the pressure's on. Last year in the playoffs,

because the oil are come back. Yeah. That momentum. Lots of momentum words thrown around by the media and the public. I didn't feel like there was momentum when I was playing. Like you felt good about your situation. I went on runs and you felt comfortable in what you had to do. But I never felt like, oh, we've got them now.

It was more, don't let them off the ropes. That's right. That's right. And that's, yeah, that's right. That's right. Exactly. So the momentum is maybe from, being scared of losing.

You know what I mean? Like afraid to make a mistake. Don't get this up. And that's how you keep kind of the momentum. You stay on top of it. So, yeah. Three two game seven Rangers. Lyndon, two goals.

He was a horse. He was really good. There's that one photo people may remember. It's him. And Kirk. He's just. Yeah. But that was after one game.

Was it that game or was it another game? Yeah. He's got his nose. They're gray. Like, there's no color left in anyone's faces. The travel, New York, Vancouver, you did the Toronto thing a couple times. And it was not, you got to remember, too, like I look at now, they got three days in between games. It was every second day.

Like you were on. And, yeah, the travel was difficult. Yeah. Had to feel good. So, I mean, obviously, you don't win there. But you talked about going to Vancouver. So you've been traded by LA, although, let's be honest. Like I say, it's not really a trade.

But you put on waivers, claimed by Vancouver. And then in 95, 96, 30 goals, 96, 97, 35 goals. What do you remember about those two seasons? Because you're not getting on waivers now. I blank for two years and I started scoring goals. That's what happened. You know what? I'm not too sure.

You know why? You start feeling good about your game and so on. and you just start, puck started going in. To be honest with you, they started playing me a lot there and on the power play and so on and got some good years. I think, to be honest with you,

I think they were kind of fluke a little bit. Like I look at my career overall. Like I'm a two-way, hardworking journeyman. If you get 20 goals, like awesome. It's back-to-back years, 30 plus. Yeah, cool. I'm not too sure, but playing with some good players and getting a lot of ice time and quality time and just feeling good about my game.

And I think, too, I'm not sure how old I was, but I think I hit my peak probably around 27, 28. I'm not sure when you felt your best in the NHL. And I think I was just entering kind of peak where you're physically mature enough. you've been around enough to kind of understand situation and not to get pressure by plays or games. You're comfortable in your own skin and you're in the league at what it takes

and what you've got to do. That's right. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, this video, it's short, but there's four on one night against Arizona. Do you remember your four-goal game against Nikolai Han? I do. Partially because of that, you know, they get a career high for you,

four in a game and these uniforms. I wonder if somebody still has this Marty Gell in a uniform. I do. I kept all my jerseys. Do you have that one? I got all my jerseys. Oh, baby.

So there's the first. You got to know where to be, Marty. I can't remember. I had four very quick. I think after two periods. Oh, you had four both middle of the second. Yeah. So there's the third.

So then you just kicked your feet up. And then it's just. No, I remember. I remember Alex. McGillney, he came to me and said, hey, I want to be part of something special. And he kind of ruined it from there.

So, good story about this. Yeah, I scored four goals. And you know what? When you think about 30 goals or 35 goals, if you score four, three, three, and a lot of twos, it heads up pretty quick, right?

So for that game, But they had a stagged the night before. So I'm pretty sure they had a stagged the night before. So they were not completely sharp. Like coyotes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't remember who was getting married. But anyway.

The Roxy flew, right? Yeah, taking a few teams down over the years. So the wall was not quite there that high. So 35 goals, 96, 97, the following season, traded to Carolina. Here again, you're a Canuck. You've been to a cup final. You've gone to battle with these guys.

You're now a 30 goal guy, and you're on your way out. Is there bitterness? It's Carolina. I was better. I didn't even know. I didn't know how to say Carolina. The French guy trying to say Carolina. Where am I going?

So, yeah, I was bitter and upset. And, yeah, when I got there, it took me a while. You know, you go from a hockey market, which I love Emmerton and love Vancouver, and you go to Carolina. You didn't know, I didn't know what to expect. So it took me a little while. In the first year, if you remember, we had to drive to Greensboro. Greensboro. So we had to do, I don't know how many miles.

But it was over an hour and maybe an hour and 20 minutes from Raleigh to Greensboro to play games. And we would practice in Raleigh and so on. So I started in Florida, Greensboro. was where it was yeah farm team was that right yeah yeah so so yeah so yeah so yeah everything was just not ideal yeah yeah but we love family wise we love Carolina it worked out in that story right yeah yeah yeah yeah it took me a while it's changed a bit but we loved it yeah it was really good so uh I this quote Ron Francis now was Pittsburgh and they're going battling with you guys Ron Francis

who you would know well soon because he would play with you. Talking about the difference, the Carolina Hurricanes post this trade. Jelena makes them more a gritty, skating, head-banging hockey club. There you go. Hey? Lottie, France,

is giving you some flowers. When you talk about all the players that you play with, he was, he was, his mind was a league, when you look at an all-famer. I play, I play with a lot of old-famer.

over the years. Yeah. He was probably one of the better one. His mind. So many points, so many games. I still, Hall of Fame, Cops, I still think he's underrated. Can't, can't skate. I mean, couldn't move, but not a great skater.

Just a big body. But his mind was like, Graskey, elite. Yeah. And is, yeah, the way he was making plays and so on. Really, really good. But thank you. Well, yeah. Ronnie.

You're a head-banging hockey. I didn't want, well, there's a video. I was saying you got knocked out a few times. I did. Peter Worrell knocked you cold? Like, like, so, like, people will say how many concussion you had, and said, you know, I probably had three of them. But the biggest one was Peter Worrell.

And Kenan was coaching on the other side, and I think my understanding, like, they were not playing good, and challenged Warrell. And I made a play, and then about a second later, then I get hit. And I'm on the ice. And there's concussions that you come back pretty quick. But that one, I'm on the ice.

I'm not moving. And so the trainers talk to me and not responding. Ward, defenseman. speaks French. I got a blank for his first name. So anyway, start Aaron Ward. Start talking French to me. Yeah.

started talking French to them. So I'm on the ice. So they take me in the room. And then this is where concussions start really being kind of on the forefront. So they take me in the room. They say, hey, Marty, where are you? I'm in Vancouver. And who do you play for?

The Vancouver Canucks. So it was my fourth year in Carolina, like just out, just out. But that was a big, that was a big head. it now. I've been around guys like that and it's so, so scary. Stewie Barnes got one in Tampa Bay when we were in Buffalo and every two minutes he'd say, I got to call my wife. Did we win? Yeah. And it was just on repeat. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The first one when I had one in, in Vancouver, you just didn't know enough about, and we probably had some before. You just, you're just, you're. You're. You're. You're. You're back right away, right? But that one was a big one. So I was off for a bit. Sorry.

You could have showed it. There's no problem. No, it's no fun to look at. I mean, you're out cold before you hit the ice. It was just a dirty. And that was still the time. You had guys like Worell and Scott Parker. There were some guys in the league only to fight and hurt guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Could barely get around. And Wurl was one of those guys. You play with him, Pete? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he was. he was ugly

well I don't mean it in a crew yeah but he was an ugly skater and he was a huge massive man and when he started it was like he would be running around

it would be like how tough was he he was tough because he was big he was big right and he'd do it so I don't question his toughness because he'd throttle guys

but a lot of it had to do with a size mismatch yeah but when you do it that much you get better at it it's like anything yeah And you get confidence.

Yeah. One of the toughest guy I play with, it was Dave Brown in Emmington. Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. He was tough. Yeah. You would have played with some tough guys.

Simon a couple times. Yeah. Cy. Stu Grimson and Carolina. Sure. Well, everyone had a tough guy. Yeah. Brownie.

Had to. It was in, uh, Vancouver, wasn't it? Ogino? Ojoic. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, oh. Well, but. But the game of change, we had, everybody had tough guys. Everybody had tough guys.

If not three. Yeah, that's right. That's right. Four years, I do, I don't want to get, you played for Paul Maurice your entire time. Yeah. What are you seeing him finally win it? You know, I do like to see people that have been the game long that get rewarded at some point. Because it's, you know, we talk about it's so hard to win now.

So it's hard as a player, I think it gets even harder as a coach because you look at Ryan Oscar, like he's not picking his team until you get established and been in the league long enough that you could kind of say, yeah, I'm going to go with this team. And there's no guarantee that you're going to win it. So I do like it. He was really young when I had him. Some of the players were older than he was. so you learn quite a bit over the years.

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And we're back with more Barnburner. Back to the cup final. 2002, Keynes are third in the east. You beat New Jersey defending cup champs in six in round one. Then it's Montreal in six. Then it's Toronto in six. And, well, I mean, you know, I was, I would, you scored the overtime winning goal. You get the overtime winning goal in game six of the Eastern Conference final to eliminate Toronto.

Toronto, three of the four wins were in overtime in that series. Yeah. Crazy. It's crazy. And again, it's a team that no one expected anything from. Yeah. And it's just, you're getting breaks. You're getting goals from different guys, key goals and so on.

They won in the leaf again. I was going to say, you broke their heart in Vancouver, and we can take a look because You had a bigger hand in this time around. That's really, really good. That, because they were going to win. Oh, yeah. But they win every year. Yeah, I mean, you just ask the fans, they're going to win every year.

But I choked my stick on the way. I was going to say, it was, it was weird. It just kind of, I didn't even overthink it, but I'm thinking, I got no room. And I just, I went like a mini stick and it choked my, my, if you watch them the replay. And then, and then it went in. The building. was silent after. It was incredible.

It just felt good. So a good friend of mine and his wife, business partner in real estate, now they were there. And then his wife after the game was crying. So I think, wow, she's emotional. She's really excited about the win. And then her husband phones me later on. She said, yeah, she's a huge leaf fan.

Thanks a lot, for me. Thanks. So off to the cup and it's Detroit. Yeah. Any idea how many Hall of Famers on this swing? Oh, my God. Like, that was totally the era of like you had Laryonov. Is he a all a famer? Yeah.

Shanahan. All. It's a lot. Yeah. Shanahan, Federov, Brett Hall, Nick Lidsstrom, Luke Robitai, Steve Iisman, Igor Laryonov, Chris Chelyos, Dominic, and Pavel Datsuk is going in in November. 10. Is that crazy?

We had zero We had zero chance But I got to say We until they lost that They won that overtime Three overtime Which was a long long overtime I think it was the longest game at that time

And now there's There's longer games But until they won that one We were in it Like if that if we win that one Maybe Because you steal game one and overtime right Yeah

Game won an overtime and then that one goes to triple. That's right. And if you went that one, then now it's a different ballgame. So I remember, you remember, like, you're in Florida. I probably saw that. The tailgate, right? So we're in Carolina and people are excited. They're, like, I remember, like, they're at 1 o'clock in the afternoon. They're in the, they're tailgating. Parking a lot. Parking a lot. They're standing up the whole game and they're drinking, and then first overtime, people are sitting down, second over time. Third over time. They're like, they're really,

that's a long shift. That's a full ship right there. But yeah, they had a good time there too. But you know what? We lost that one and then like to a better team. 25 points separating you two in the regular season. It's simple. Right? Like there's. Sometimes you lose and you're like,

yeah, they're 100%. Yeah. We're, we'll probably get to our Well, sure. So then what happens? Because now contract squabble with Carolina. Did you, you could have renegote, you wanted to renegotiate? Oh, I had an option. I had an option. So, so is my option. My wife's family, they're all from, we always want to come back this way. And Calgary is our kind of our pick we want to go to. My wife's family, they're all from here. So Bill Hay, do you remember Berber Bill Hay, who is president of hockey often, that's her uncle. And so we want to kind of come back here

and you're not supposed to talk before. I imagine my age in Calgary didn't talk before. Of course not. But waited for July 1st and signed here. So, yeah, it was really, really excited to come here. And who was the GM then? Button. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, Craig Button was the GM at the time. It was a decent little deal. Yeah, so, I mean, it was good for me. We love Carolina, to be honest. Like, we were, like, comfortable there. But just wanted to get back in the Canadian market. So you come back the first year, 21 goals, 17 goals in 0304.

And the fourth time, you're going to go to a cup final as an underdog. Sixth in the West, Tampa Tops in the East. Did not win the President's Trophy that year. That was the first time. that you didn't play the president's trophy winner in the Stanley Cup final. And it just takes on, let's talk about your, what do you remember about 04? Kipper comes in, your pride, he comes in, Daryl's pulling the strings now. Is there any part of you?

Because you've now been to three cups. You can see chemistry and how teams are built and when maybe you have something special. I didn't see that coming, to be honest. Like, I would be lying to you. So, so Daryl comes the night, the year before, if you recall. And halfway through a late year, yeah. And like, he took over Al McNeil. It was, we had Chauper for three games.

So, so that's, that's a story right there. That's really good. A good, great man. Sure. But Daryl that year was interesting. He was pushing buttons, but he was, he was being careful. and you knew you had an edge to him, but didn't quite, like it was not, but the following year when he took over, it was like game on, and it was Daryl. And he just had a gift of pushing the players to their limit, right? And, and you knew exactly what button pushed.

Even a guy like you, you're a good shape, you're healthy, you eat right, hard worker. Like, he was actually, you know, there's people now, it's hard to find players that you say, hey, you can't do it. Like, you can't do this. And I'm going to show you how we can do it. And Daryl just was really good. He was really good. He knew I was older and little things that he would do to me.

Like, I mean, Retro knows what he is. But on the bench, for example, if I didn't ship a puck in are out. He would come, tap me on the shoulder, that's your warning, that's it. That's all he would say. So, so, so as an older guy, you kind of know, holy, better, better, but he was really good that way. With younger players, he would just sit them right, you know what I mean? So, so, yeah, he knew how to push the button.

Even, even in, in, after game two, he came to me in the playoff against in Vancouver and he took me to his office and I think we talk about this and he said if I had another left winger you'd be in the stands right now so that's Darrell talking to me and I'm thinking

screw you and then I went home that is so upset and from that point on I said I said I am gonna show you and it was Darrell right but I give him credit And it's such a double-ed-off, this guy, but now I'm going to play better, and it's going to work, and he got what he got what he got complication.

But you know what? When he said that, he said, and I went home and he said, watch the clips with cookie the next day. I did, and I look at my game, my game was fine. But as a world- It wasn't going to be good enough. No, as an older guy, fine is not good enough. So he knew that. I was not maybe willing to kind of go.

above and beyond and and and and and make the sacrifices to you know for the bit you know what I mean you play in your mind you play fine until someone challenges you and you kind of look at yourself playing you realize yeah because you've been there too right where and I would just think as an athlete it must be a bit of an eye open because like you say I'm I'm in good shape I'm in the NHL I'm working hard this is the level and then you get tested and you realize I got another level I've got more here. I got another level. And that's what he did to me.

And I'm sure he did the same thing to you. He did it to everyone. Yeah. But not everybody responds the same way. And I think now it's tougher to find it. Oh, it would be way. Yeah. Yeah.

There's things that wouldn't work in today's world. But for that group, he had a pulse. I always said one of Daryl's greatest attributes was his ability, walks to the room and know what that room needed as far as a push or a relax or this or he could walk through the room and know what was going on with that I appreciate it

I didn't appreciate it then because you're in it and you're like it's hard and it's a grind where you look back and you appreciate what you went through to win did you think you were that type of a player that would respond to that because like you said everyone handles it differently no you know what I was I was in a

comfortable place. I was comfortable. Yeah. And then that made me uncomfortable, just a little bit like when I got put on waivers. Uncomfortable and realizing, okay, something needs to be, needs to change here. So I give him credit. Yeah. How much time we got?

How much more time you need? Not long. Okay. Just we're going to roll some video. Just stream of consciousness. Okay. What goes through your mind, what you remember. and what you think.

And there's probably, probably easy to nail down four videos here to take a look. Great shot from the point. It was really good. Got to get it through. Ronnie, look at how open I was. Oh, I should have just let you chip it in.

That was awesome. The best part about this, it was Chuck Kubis who's trying to jump on the pile there and he completely missed it. Do you remember that? So that was April 19. It was my daughter's birthday, so I do remember. But I go back and say,

anyway, I could have scored those goals. Just had to be at the right place or the right time. Good pinch. Yeah. It's the right time to pinch there. But how good, I mean, unexpected. We win this series. And now talking about belief.

Now we start to believe. But game six, tough one, triple overtime. It was a weird game too because we were down four to one, came back to tie it in the third and then went to double or triple overtime and lost. But talking about, like we had a team, like just a blue collar team. And our approaches, we're just going to help work the opponent. That was kind of a mind's that. Like we were, I mean, our skill set was not limited.

Very limited. But what we accomplished with that skill set was incredible. You know they say, well, in 20 years from now, it'll be bar down or it'll be top corner. Not a lot of these goals are top corner. But you look at the one against Detroit. Same way. It's kind of tapped in and so on. Is it slow-mo?

They always talk about how your eyes go big and you just see everything kind of slow right down. I'm thinking. Last minute of overtime zero-zero. Yeah. collapse, go to the net, forget about me. Oh my God, I tell everybody you could have scored that goal.

But the excitement of that probably put All the Famer Goujo? No, radio. Oh, Peter Marr. Peter Marr. Yeah, that was.

Like it was so cool. building was so cool. Like, it was so fun. Like, that run was so fun. I mean, the building was red, and people were excited and jumping, and it was so much fun. I mean, for me, this is why you play the game in hockey. Not, not, I mean, you want to be part of the excitement. Look at this.

Now, you're standing about top of the circles. I was soaking it in. I loved it. What, you didn't want to get in? I would just watch. Really? You said it. I like it.

Honestly, I remember standing at goosebumps, and I stood there on purpose because I wanted to soak it in. Yeah. Because the atmosphere was, will never be better. It can't be better. And again, like you look at that team,

a lot of All of Famer on that team. They were very good team, yes. Probably not as many as when we play against when it was in Carolina. Yeah. But quite a few there too. Real good team. So unexpected, just fun for the city. Yeah.

Yeah. And fun for us. The next one is not in overtime, but it's another series, game winning series winning goal. Yeah. Look at it. I had a brain cramp there. Usually I would have shot right away. Obviously, you're waiting a month, right?

But I remember Connie being right on the face off and say, Marty, I'm going forward. And then like, you can. kind of wonder how Marcel Gotch did not get the info. The third round how they would play it they would

play it that way. It was incredible. Motti scored a big goal, right? overtime. Game one. Yeah, so I still say that series killed us because we let them back in it. We had them, we won the first two in San Jose. We should have wiped them out and we'd have saved

our legs. Yeah. Yeah. Much better 100% yeah you're right so uh but connie made that call right at the draw you said we're going forward yeah so so that worked out perfectly you know what not too many goals worked out perfectly and then my actually the other two goals were tapped in anyone could have done it but that one is actually a nice goal yeah yeah and i kind of cut that one down for time but there's a shot where nabakov is looking over his shoulder it's like is any of you guys want to make a play on this The Setterman didn't get it. The Winger didn't get it.

The D-Man's not on it. Is there anything going on here? And then, I mean, we've got to show the last one. Yeah. Which I guess I didn't realize again. Game 6 here. June 5th was my birthday. I would have been.

And then Oli's driving. And I'm driving the net. And then it happens so fast, Boomer. Yeah. And I'm thinking when it first happened, I'm thinking, that went in. and then but then again there's just like it's bang bang and then the puck's going the other way I wish I was just putting my hands up just to kind of make them realize I'm thinking that that is in

but again it's happens so fast it happens so fast and then I always say my my personality is not like like yeah yeah it's just kind of tame but I think that would have changed maybe from the perspective of everything on top a little bit different. So I wish I would have done that different. Another thing I wish Darrell would have been a little more vocal

after. But he was all about business. We've got to forget. Well, that was our problem. That's part of our problem as a group was that we were like, it doesn't matter, we work. Yeah.

Let's go to work. That's right. We're here to work. But sometimes you got a, not the referees would change the way they but sometimes if you get pressure

from the top the NHL to the referee maybe that changes a few things maybe not I don't know it should have been looked at but you can't

yeah yeah what can you do we know what happens in game seven and that was your last NHL playoff game game seven in Tampa yeah

would you have if you would have been told that last NHL playoff game yeah yeah Yeah, I cried. Would you have believed it?

Like, you know what? I didn't know. Like, you think you're going to go back there. You just. Sure. Christy was going. You've been going. But I, I cry like a baby after that game in Tampa,

just knowing that it was probably going to be my last kick at the can there and so on. So, yeah, this is, I felt, I felt bad for, as an old. guy and it's such a good run and such a magical run you just feel bad for your teammates the people are involved the trainers have been part of it forever that never won a cup and you're that close and this is where i remember uh peter annlin was around i say hey i'm i'm sorry man i wish you'd have the same reaction right well i did have the same part of it was like god love iggy but like he's like we'll be back next year and i'm in my head i'm going it does it's good It just doesn't happen.

And they're all at the same speech, right, after. But you know as you get older, that you need the brakes and everything needs to be kind of on par and perfect. And it's not that it's a defeatist attitude. I mean, I guess a little bit it is. Imagine if we won retro. Like when you, I look at an 89 team and I think it's fantastic and they're tight and together and so on. people still talk about the 204 run like we won right and and if you look at the clip probably did but imagine if we did like it would have been magical it would have been like eminent this year

coming back from a three zero deficit and winning but it will change too if you guys want to win now then we didn't have to yeah the city yeah it'd be all right yeah that's right have another one of those runs that would be good too that would be That was be exciting. Just to wrap it. Sorry, because I feel like I got to get you out of here. 19 seasons, 147 playoff games. That's not, that's a little more time on top.

Two more seasons. But you think about 149, there's some lean years, but you go to four finals, that's 24, 25, 24 games. We saw a few there. So we know that there's overtime against Vancouver. And overtime against Detroit and overtime against Toronto with Carolina and Vancouver and that whole thing. Yeah.

I don't know that you were, again, my math not good. 32 playoff overtime games. So 147 of them. 32 went to overtime. Wow. 22 wins, 10 losses.

Wow. Oh, wow. Couple with Edmonton. Huh. Interesting. I didn't even know that. Does it feel? Because I went through,

I can't believe how many. Huh. I didn't. That's a good staff. It was San Jose. Detroit, Vancouver twice, Tampa Bay. It was a lot of OTs for you. Yeah.

And you, I love OTs to be honest with you. You're the Eliminator, right? This is what I trained for. Like, this is why I go above and beyond that I'm hoping that he's going to go three overtime. Because this is where I'm going. I think I'm still going. And then, you know what? To be honest with you, it's not skill set.

It's more mindset at that time. and yeah, I love playoff. I didn't realize I played that many. Yeah. Interesting. And a pretty good record, too. Thank you. Thanks for sharing that.

I understand now life's good. You're working with younger hockey players. I hear that you've, I got to hear a number if you need afterwards, if you need some help with your tennis game. Thank you. One of your friends reached out and said, you're okay. Reg. At tennis.

You're at Reg. But if you wanted some tips, support. He's a younger, he's a, Rich younger, faster model. He's got a wangspan on him, too. He does, yeah. But you know what? I think he's probably been water skiing all summer,

so maybe I have a chance coming out. That was the report I got. Water skiing every day? Yeah, before the kids get up. Yeah. Yeah, he's a competitor. He loves badminton more, and he loves tennis now.

But tennis is my game. Not very game, but I'm not very good at it, but I love it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's always good to see. You're one of those guys, man, that the room warms up when you get, everybody's always happy to see Marty Jalena, so happy that you're doing well. Kids are good.

You're always in great shape. I hate that part. I try to stay on top of it. It's not easy, but, yeah. How's 54 years old? 54, pretty good. Yeah, life's pretty good. still doing what I love.

You know, I started in the NHHF when I was 18. I retired for one month and got hired by David Poyle with Nashville, did player development for five years, assistant coach eight years, been doing player development for three years. So I've been in the NHF for a long, long time and doing what I love and got a little more flexibility with player development now, which we didn't have with coaching. So, you know what, life is pretty good.

kids are, my kids are Matthews 29 and daughters 28, both working in Calgary and close to home. My youngest who I'm going to take to the airport right now, she's in London, Ontario's second year and loving it. So, yeah, my wife, Jane's holding everything together and it's all good. Good to see you. Good to see you. Thanks for having me. Sorry, I, at Duke. Well, you're coming back again, so don't worry about it. Yeah, we'll do it another time. Thanks, Marty. Thank you.