Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Matthew Phillips Revenge | FN Barn Burner - October 17th, 2023

Episode Date: October 17, 2023

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We're after it once again. Welcome to Barnburner. It's Boomer and Pinder and Brett Warner here as, where are you there, retro? Is that, I was trying to get some of these dopey flames to join me because I know they're downtown Buffalo, so I came to the practice rink

and I'm sitting in coach Pat Kaleta's office here. Oh, what's the picture of? This is one and only goal. I was going to say, What's the highlight there? Jeez. And he's celebrating like he meant to do it. Less than a minute in.

We're already just clipping guys. Not collateral damage. That's a direct hit. No. Direct shot. Red laser dot. So is it kid hockey or what are you doing? Well, I wanted to go have lunch with Conroy.

And I was trying to get Backland to come a walk over and be on the show because clearly they're not busy here downtown Buffalo. Off day. Yeah, so, and failing in all and every endeavor. Hard to believe that hanging with you in Buffalo is what they wouldn't want to do on their day off. If anyone knows Buffalo, I mean, it's like the best

tour guide in the history of the city, probably, especially if you like booze and wings. Conroy's coming over. We're going to go have a coffee. We've got some kids coming down here. They've got to skate. We're going to go tell them that, give them the Conroy insight on light. maybe. Nice. So tried to get Huska to come on or Savard.

Oh, they're busy. Busy. Maybe if you kids work really hard, you too could be in the New York Sports Hall of Fame. That's right. Mm-hmm. That's right.

I would take you there, but I don't know. The box that exists. But, you know, it might just be a racket. Craig, can you show us your ring from the Hall of Fame ceremony? Uh-huh.

Now, did you ask for Nazam? Because, uh, He needs to work on a shootout moves. I just looked at it right before the show, one for six last year, O for one this year. Can we stop putting Nazim in the shootout unless you want one for seven?

Hit the post. Hit the post. Pretty close. Okay, so one and a half out of seven or still one for seven? Sharon Govich hit the post. I like that a little more. There's the release we heard about all summer. Yeah, well.

Just need to get a penalty. He was the only one out there, though. So if there's other people on the ice, does that happen? I'd like to see it. First time we've seen it. It's kind of my point. When there's no one around you, no pressure, you really can shoot it hard. Off the post.

Ah, well, whatever. Let's get into it. That's the Calgary Flames last night going to Washington. That's right. There's Doug on the, uh, right. Make sure you get a photo with Backlund with your new custom-made captain shirt. Should have wore it down and got it signed. You should have.

It's busy down here. Is it? Tampa Bay is in the hotel. They've taken over the kids' room for their meal. Yeah, they play tonight. Stamcoast did not skate. That's news for Tampa today. Oh, dear.

3-2, the final score last night from Washington, where the flames probably, and I know afterwards, Ryan Huska was talking about it. He feels like every game they've been getting better and better. There's been progress. Would have liked the extra point. They take the single point,

and they're, They're fine with that. Five on five, outshot the capitals 3222. I said with retro last night, and I think we said yesterday, I really want to try and avoid doing the same show from last year, this year. Well, they got a lot of shots. How many scoring chances? A few.

A few. Outshooting the opposition and score was tied. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's. like 30 to 9 and it was tied at two or whatever the hell it was there in the second period. I mean, if they, if they score another power play goal, if Blake Coleman scores on the penalty shot. Goddry chance before the Phillips goal. Yeah. There's a bunch of them.

You score 34 to go. You get that power play. You score there. You win. You leave there feeling great. You deserve to win. You said that feels like last year a bit. Last year they beat Colorado, Edmonton, and Vegas.

their first year games. This doesn't feel like that. No, no. I just mean the overriding sentiment last year. But the goalie has been good. That's probably the biggest fear to spell about last year because you thought even if they were going to be the same group of dopes that couldn't finish enough, at least the goalie being better

would be enough. The goalie was not any good last year. Neither were, really because at the time they got to Vlodar, he'd lost it. That at least is encouraging. Just to be argumentative. Yeah. Because it's fun when we do that. Sure. He's still giving up a couple bad ones. Once off to a game.

And it's, I would normally be like, but again, probably your best player last night, you know? I'm agreement. And that's two out of three games has been your best player because he certainly was against Winnipeg and against Pittsburgh. You had a zero hanging through 40. Not going to suggest that you couldn't have done better

in third, but that felt like the team's failure more than his in the sense that it was the penguins on a back-to-back. In that third period, if you just, I'll work them. but Markstrom is way down the list of concerns here and last year he might have been at the top of the list. Yeah, I'll buy that. I'll buy that.

Thank you. One soft goal a game though, do you have confidence in this offense to outscore that? He's probably, he's not going to give up one bad game. No, that's not going to happen. And he's just look good, right? I mean, let's, I don't know what the expected save stuff is.

It's very early to be going at data, but the eye test, he looks like he's holding them in. when they get into trouble and they're getting into trouble less. You think of all the breakdowns they had against Winnipeg and then, okay, late against Pittsburgh after a pretty sound first 40 minutes or at least the second period. Last night, great start. Like defensively, it feels like they're tightening things up,

which would make sense. New system, new coach, different pairs aside from the top pair. Like, is this going to take some time? Maybe. That's the opposite from last year, right? The early goals. He's been terrific early. They've had a lead every game.

They haven't trailed until the third period in any game this year. I guess a few things to get into. You know what? Do you have the time machine? Is the time machine? Does Jack have it all fired up? I mean, it wasn't plugged in. And when you do, it has to reload.

But I think, let's see. You know what, not going that far back in time. We're going back in the time machine. Let's go back just about a day to this very program. That way segment, but you can't end the show without. mentioning one thing. What happens when former flames play the flames? Right. Generally, Ryan, a former flame who goes to another team and then plays against the flame enjoys a certain level of success often resulting in a goal. It's not going to have the way. It's not Chris Clark.

Who's the shorter fellow led the American League for like three years in scoring and are you Are you referring to Matthew Phillips? That's the guy. Right. Plus 450. It was close to connecting. Phillips now on the camera attack. Here's Milano.

Still has something up with that. It's more. Phillips gets his first NHL goal. What an opportunity by the- Look, you can make a lot of money watching the show. You go against my football picks and you bet former flames to score against the flames. I'm going to keep a running tally this year. That is our first former player call.

They've played three games. They've already got one. And it's like we're already up 550. So we're good. If you put 100 down, you made 550 last night. You're welcome. So Johnny on Friday. Johnny on Friday.

I don't know that we got a saber that we're concerned about Rhett because Hanifan hasn't been traded there yet. Is that right, Rhett? You haven't done that trade yet. I can make this happen today, maybe. Tell you what, though, good Branson would pay big if you want to really go deep on Friday. You know, now I'm not putting you, I'm not putting you in a spot where you need to be disingenuous. but Ryan and I were texting back and forth last night.

And I felt like if we were live last night, if he would have been on Barnburner, there may have been a bit of a rant from Ryan Pinder. Cue me up. What's the rant on? Well, there's lots that I, I don't want to overreact and I do think there's some good signs and you want to give time for a new coaching staff and some new groups.

No, no. But also there's some things that still look like the same as last year. more on the Phillips front. More on the, yeah, I mean, look, this guy is a flame. The only way he's not a flame is if somehow he's denied an opportunity to prove himself at the NHL level. And that lays at one man's feet. That's it. It's only Daryl.

Everyone else in the org wanted them to play more than three games by the time he'd finished his 24-year-old season. They literally played Nick bleeping Richie ahead of this guy down the stretch. even what, like, what are we doing here? Good for Nick, hey, big Nick. You see Big Nick. Yeah, see, there's Daryl in the chat. He's saying the flame should look at that Phillips kid. You're right, Daryl, they should.

But honestly, if he gets 15 or 20 games, you have a better idea what he is. And if you're Matthew Phillips, why would you come back to Calgary? What have they done for you? They did the bare minimum. I don't know that you could do less than give a guy three games, one of them, I believe, a meaningless game 82 a couple of years ago.

And the other two is like fourth line role. He gets the post in one of those games. And it's like you're bringing in furnace face PTO cut Nick Ritchie ahead of this guy down the stretch. You can't give an internal guy a try here? Why? Because Nick Ritchie stands on a scale and has a bigger number. Like, what are we doing here? Daryl.

Very good coach. Going to the Hall of Fame. Idiotic decision. I'm sorry. What is he going to? be though. We don't know, but that's the whole point. You should have known by the end of last year. That's good. I like it.

By the end of the year, you should say, okay, we saw 20 games of Phillips. Here's what we think he is. And instead, Connor had to say, love the kid, really wanted to draft him. We don't know what he is. How do you not know what he is when he's 24? They drafted him in 2016. 2016.

And it saw he was ready in 2018. It took some time. But how do you take a cut like that? And and invest in developing a guy like that, only to cap a ceiling on him at the American League where he's too good. Maybe he's a quad A guy and he's got to go to Europe to make money. But he was too good for the American League.

We saw it the last two years and they never gave him a chance to prove anything at the NHL level. Because 10 minutes of fourth line, playing with Lewis and Luchich. It's part of that thing. He was just down the hall. All of his home games were played on Saddle Dome Ice. But the heat.

And I'm kind of, Brett and I talked about it last night. Whose spot does he take? How does he fit on this club? You can mix a guy in. I'm sorry. It's kind of three games in six years. You had one of the leading scorers in the American Hockey League for a while

and you didn't let him have a sniff. For who? For Nick and Richie. I feel bad for the people that aren't watching and can only listen because we've had some great expressions out of running. Some great facial work. Find some freeze frames for the show. Yeah, that's good.

I don't know. It's just frustrating because everyone wants to see the kid do well. Wow. He does score. And it's like he's the greatest underdog. Everyone loves the human. That's true. How do you not cheer for this kid?

And then it's like, yeah, well, one guy's ego is too big and he couldn't give him a try. That's the catch for me was that everybody loves the kid. Everyone. The whole, you know, the whole story is there. Yeah, undersized and can't, won't be able to do it. But from, from his coaches that, coached him when he was a bloody timbitt, they said what a great kid he is. And to not give him that chance and everybody,

have everybody behind them is like, hey. You know, you got a chance at 18 and you're an asshole, right? Like, well, you got to be one or the other. He's tall. That's so he doesn't, you don't have to be a good guy. It's like going to school. The smart kids, the smart kids get helped and the dumb kids get helped. You don't know, that mucky middle,

Mickey middle, never good. Mushy or mucky? He wants to change. I don't like mushy. He doesn't like the mushy now. Dubay gets a goal and an assist. Adam Rizekka gets a goal and an assist. So does Phillips.

See, so the flames have lots of guys. They can get goals in a sense. Roach! Roach is back. Remember the beginning of last year when he was scoring? Roach. He could have been playing with Roach, old Philly. One guy.

Yeah, he could have been playing with Roach. Would have made Roachian. You could have out a fourth line with Roach, Pellche and Phillips. And instead, you rolled out some expired meats for like 82 gauge. Where's Trevor Lewis playing this year? I think he's in LA. Is he not?

I think he went back to L.A. Is he going to deal? Where's Nick Ritchie? Are they playing in Bentley for his brother? What are we doing here, fellas? I don't know what Nick Ritchie's doing because he didn't have the PTO. He just got cut yesterday. He just got cut.

Yeah. Hey, listen. It's not so much about Nick Ritchie. It's just about Matthew Phillips. Now that this game is gone by it. light them up. Go ahead, Bubba. Have a great year. Best of luck to you. But yeah, if you were within the organization and watched... I'm done singing his praises. That's enough.

Yeah, that's enough. Go have a career. Unless you turn in St. Louis and stick it in the flames, took us in the game seven sort of situation. Six for sure. Yeah, seven, I guess. I was looking back yesterday on the show. we were kind of to, I guess, just evaluating how important is this game, the road trip, this and that. And you would said, uh, it's no, it's fine just,

but if you lose tonight, then it's like the worst thing ever. And then they lost last night, but they got a single point. So where are you on the, on the panic scale? Let's, more so about the process, what you're seeing with the team as a whole as opposed to. I like how the team played. I mean, but the fear for me is that it's, It's exactly what you said you don't want a repeat of last year's scenario.

Nine in the last. That's what you're a nightmare. That's what you're getting. Well, we didn't. They got a point. So it's okay. Right. Better than not losing,

but not as good as winning. So we're fine, except if you lose the next one. And then it starts to add up. And the top guys, Pinders said it. We talked about it last. I think Markstrom has.

kind of answered the bell as far as, you know, the questions, is he going to be good? Where is he at? I don't like the soft goals, but he has looked into it and has made huge saves. So that's fine. I think he gets the pass there. That box has been checked. There's still other guys that I worry about.

Like, you've got a power play late in that game. You could win it. Who's stepping up and making a play to score the goal? They hardly had a shot. that bothers me. So I think there's still a lot of things that are like, yeah, it felt like the power play derailed the team in the first

when they were humming. They'd get two at mad advantages if I'm correct in the first. And it seems like they lost momentum on the first. And I think they score late on the second, maybe that's the dupe tip or whatever. But it was like, it felt like at times last year was the same. It was like, oh, no, power play.

Shoot, we were going so well. I'll say this. Like in terms of the big picture stuff, you'd feel really good at two one and one if you went in Buffalo. You'd feel like you're really screwed it up at one, two, and one if you lose to Buffalo. By the end of this road trip, when you've played six games, I think we'll have a better idea of like, okay, is that a disappointing six games? Was it okay or did they exceed expectation?

There's three teams left. None of them made the playoffs last year. None of them in this whole road trip made the playoffs last year. And really, like, how you feel about this team, if you win, lose, or draw in their next three, I think has a lot to do with it because we are seeing some progress, but we're also seeing some of the same red flags. You don't get that feeling like you did. And it's no why revisit the past, I guess.

But when the Godreau line would come on, you'd feel like, okay, here's, here's the chance. This is the shift. Where the line, okay, just get through, don't get scored on. Get the Godreau line or get to whoever out there. And this is your opportunity. I don't feel like we're ever in a. in a spot with this team right now. No. This is this is the opportunity. You've got them, hem, dead, or whatever.

There's just no, and Daryl talked about it all last year. There's no stars. There's no. Now, to be fair, he said there's no stars on this team the year when they had 340 goals scores on their top line. He loves saying that. Yeah, fair. It's the identity he wanted to build. But last year, he was kind of right. Like Huberto wasn't a dynamic difference maker. He doesn't look at them this year either. Nasm-Codry was not a dynamic difference. like it doesn't look like this year. Elias Lindholm is, but more in sort of like the defensive like Bergeron mold, not a star to score goals and win games.

I love Rasmus Anderson, but he's not like a guy that's going to get Norris votes that runs the best power play in the league. Like they're lacking high in dynamic talent. And when you look at the payroll, there's guys that are supposed to be providing it that just aren't. Like I know, I know Hubert has got three points, but like the eyeball test is the same as last year.

I'm sorry. Yes, exactly. And I was going to bring that up. The points are fine. point of game, whatever, but just watching his impact on the game, you don't see. And we talk, I'm worried as to what cadre is going to turn out to be because we have two third line centers in him and Backland in a way that's good, but in another way, you can't use guys in the same rule all the time.

Like last night, there was a situation where Backland went on the ice and rightfully so. and I think it was in a penalty kill situation or a shutdown situation defensive zone draw. I don't remember exactly what it is. And Codry was on the bench. Well, if Codry's on a shutdown guy, then he's got to be a score.

And I don't know that he's going to be. What indications make you think he's going to get 30, 25? Nothing yet. And he's had the rotating cast around him, but that's been the case since he got here. And I think he's a reason for that. I don't know that there's an automatic guy oh, we got to put them there.

And it'd be fair. Like it doesn't look like Hebrot and Linormor. You can't hand everybody something, right? Like some guys are supposed to stir the drink. Yes. Right? Yes. All that.

Especially the big money guys. You're the guys that should make the people around you better, not need a particular type of person next to you. Yeah. So if we're trying to find guys so that Cadre and Huberto can score, well, yeah, that's working backwards. And it's hard because you fight that battle between, mean, cap hit and ability, you could, you could put me on the roster and give me $10 million.

I'm not going to be able to score. Yeah. But it's hard. It's hard when you're in these chairs, if you're a fan and you're watching someone who's being paid 10 million or seven or whatever, you're being paid to help the club and you aren't helping it. Some nights you're hurting it. that becomes very frustrating. Jack, I just put a tweet into the old folder there, into the drive. Robert Munich works out of our,

out of our Vancouver offices. And he does a lot of work for us, finds the video and articles and all kinds of stuff on Flamesnation.com. Which again, we invite you by all means. Go to flamesnation.com. And check out Brian Pike doing good work there. We've got all kinds of game stories, nervous stuff every day. But he kind of had a tweet last night.

I kind of captured. It was like, yeah, yeah, you know what? That's probably bang on. I'll call it up here. Jack doesn't want to show it. Jonathan Huberdo has been one of the best playmakers in the NHL over the last six, seven seasons prior to joining the flames. But I don't know what happened to him in Calgary.

He was terrible tonight. He's struggling to make simple plays. He looks nothing like an elite player. No, nothing at all. And it's, there's no, there's no, flashes, even for an answer. Oh, but nothing. Last night it's a two on one and he gets it across the line and immediately tries a pass that's low percentage and they don't even get a shot.

That's what's killing this group. They have odd man rushes. They don't even get shots. Like what I see is a guy trying to do low percentage plays all over the ice that was always weak defensively, but now isn't dynamic offensively. That's a scary, scary thing, and you're one of eight. The low percentage stuff is, that's what you notice. Oh, yeah. It's not him. I know you could do that one time out of 10, Jonathan, but this is the NHL, and it's going to go the other way on an odd man rush,

because that's just not a smart play. Yeah. It reminds me a bit of Bert when he came to Calgary. That backhand neutral zone slot. It was a turnover half the time. He was still strong as an ox, and he would turn his back to protect the puck and then try a backhand sauce into kind of nowhere. That's not helping.

I know we talk mostly flames, but I wanted to get Pinders opinion on this. Yeah. Alex Ovechkin. Oh. Crutch or help for the Washington Capitals. Sir, what was the question? Crutch?

Well, just I watched, in my opinion, is you can't take away what he's been and what he's going to be at the end of his career. Yeah. But he's a detriment to success for the watch. Yeah, I think Frank alluded to the power dynamics in that organization yesterday when he said, look, they're running it back when they probably know it's not the best decision because this is how they're paying respect to OV and getting a championship. He wants to be competitive. They'd be

better off selling parts than rolling with the number of older guys they've got. And yeah, he doesn't look dynamic at all. And if you have a game plan for him on the penalty kill, how's he going to score? It's weird to say it and it's early, but the feet don't look good right No. And retro, you're critical. I think we're all kind of critical of paying tribute being, you know, being respectful of someone who deserves and has earned that respect. He's a top 20 player maybe in the history of the game, right? Like he's, he has a good shot at being the greatest goal score in the history of the sport.

I do understand why Ted Leonis would would say, yes, this is what we're doing. Well, in Red's point last night was. You spin it. You've got a new head coach, a rookie head coach, Spencer Carberry's third game or second game for the capitals. Yeah. How do you handle that if that malaise that he shows in addition to declining foot speed and whatever, put it all together? Yeah. How do you handle that if you're Spencer Carbary's?

Can you go to a guy like that and say, can we just play you on the power play? Are you okay with that? I don't know what they've got better options. Like, like that's the thing. It's not like there. But he eats up so much. But you're right. It's like he didn't look good.

He needs to get going. He doesn't look like he did last year even. He didn't look like he wanted to move. Like he's normally a bunch of hits and like seven shot attempts. I haven't looked at. I don't know if you've watched them enough lately. Maybe we're wrong. Maybe you have.

But I don't know if that happened last year. Those hits, I think they're few and far between. He was one of my favorite players. And that's, you feel shitty almost bringing it up. But it's, it's coming. That decline is happening. been fast. Five shot attempts, none hit the net. They all missed, either blocked or missed the net. Yeah. And he had one hit. That's not an OV game. Especially with a special team's chance of that.

How many? I think it is an OV game. That's, well, that's a problem then, right? And that's the point you're making. It looks at a problem right now. I can't believe Retro would go after one of the game's greats like that. Yeah. Well, that'll be trashed. It's hot. It all over the internet. I can't believe you'd say all that about this guy. Another guy who, had an off night until he was impactful was a Genie Kuznetsov takes a couple penalties. He was all wound up. He was hot and bothered. And then to the shootout. And it was funny because I saw on social media people, oh, did you see this? He's been doing this for years, right? This is nothing really new. Kuznetsov, highly skilled, goes into the shootout and

does the... Looks like, Hobi. That looks like me. kid. Just slowly creeping in. He's been doing this for a couple of years. It's a pain in the ass. Marks from new.

Because you could see afterwards, he's like, shit. I knew he was coming in. I don't know. I'm a goalie guru. So take my advice. Why does he slowly start creeping back?

Mark's, this is what happens. I think why it works for Kuznets of is that goalies never move backwards that slow ever. And so they end up with their heels on the goal line. Look where he finishes here. Yeah. Well, don't move back at all.

He's not going to get it past you. But then if he accelerates, can he get a buy? How fast is he? What is it? Come on. Bob Berry? No, goalies haven't figured it out yet, but I'm kind of where your heads at right. I'd like to see someone aggressively poke check him or like, you know, hey, if you're going to embarrass me, I'm going to at least hurt you.

You might score, but I'm going to take you out. Where's Barry Brust? I was saying it before the show. Remember Brian Burke, our old friend, he said what they need to do is have a chance. It's like what they do in kid hockey. Don't they have, you get the guy at Santa Ice with the puck and then the other guy's got to be on one knee. Bottom of the circle.

At the bottom of the circle and then you go. I'd still be playing with my speed. But my kids and I were watching that last night. Three on three is the shit. Yeah, coaches have broken it. I said this would happen 10 years ago and people hated it, but the coaches always break these things. You now need an over and back row.

You should have. No, I think you have to change the whole thing. You should have a two, one, five on three each. Yeah, that's changing the whole thing. All right. But as it stands, it's just like, yeah, I don't really like the shot chance. Let's go skate back to our own zone. Or just get rid of it and go straight to the shootout.

Because the three on three is a waste of 20 minutes of people's lives. This is bullshit. There are some of them that look good. But when they look bad, they're just as mind numbing as, yeah. What needs to happen is there needs to be a breakdown at some, like someone has to fall. and then three on three is good because then a team gets a chance and they attack and they go for it

and if they don't score, oh shit, somebody's going the other way on an attack. It's alternating two on ones if you ever get a good chance. It's just that teams never want to surrender that chance. And I get it because it's like, well, it's like a one and four chance the game ends if that guy gets a shot.

Maybe this is you're only allowed two guys of the defensive zone. What if once you gain the blue line, you got to keep it in? You can't carry it out or it's blown dead. reverse offside because that that would stop all the reloads. I think you'd be blowing a lot of them dead. Well, but then teams will stop doing it. But it'd be stop.

But it would be stoppage after stoppage after stop. Well, that's just suggest they wouldn't adapt to you. Of course they don't want to stop. Just get rid of the shit. Throw it away. Go to five shooters. Who cares? So let's build on your five on three thing.

How does it? So we got five minutes, two and a half minutes each. Both teams get the ball once. You got to score. If you don't score, you go to shootout. You get two minutes. And if you both score, you go to the shootout as well? What's that?

If you both score? Yeah. Shoot out again or you keep going. I don't mind it. Like, yeah. No, it's shootout because you'll go too long. Yeah. I can hear the complaint already.

Guys like Chris Tanna are going to get lost to injury blocking shots on a five on three. Absolutely. But none of these things are perfect or we'd have something better than what we got. And people love three on three for five, ten years before the coaches figured it out. Or how about this? We get to overtime. the goalies have to come out, the e-bugs go in. The third donkey sitting in the back, drink and diet coke's all night.

There's one e-bug for both teams. You got to go in. Against both, I love it. Then we need to add it. We need to get another one. We have one e-bug who plays in net, and both teams get two minutes of five-on-three. Whoever scores the most goals wins. See, this is where our show is good.

This is what our show is where our strength lies is coming up with answers to questions like this. How do you fix the three-on-three? Now, do you think other people feel it too? You guys obviously do. Retro, you brought it up. My kids said it. My kids said it last thing. They wanted to stay up to watch overtime and they're watching it halfway through.

They're like, this is boring. It's very, it's become very slow. Oh, it's pain. And there are still good three on threes, but the percentage of ones where you're like, yeah, I was wasting my time. It's getting higher and higher every year because, again, it's all about possession. So until you force teams to make tough positions and tight spaces, they're just going to reload. They're just going to swing back.

I don't like it. Well, back to our own. Yeah. Let's get a change. I'll wait behind the net. we'll get another change, reload, reload. And if no one makes a mistake, you're just reloading for five minutes. Like you would hold the puck for four minutes and not take a bad,

a low probability shot because there's no punishment for it. There's no shot clock. You're allowed to leave the zone. Like you have to change those rules or it's going to look like this. Five minutes at the four minute mark or let's say three minutes, you throw another puck onto the ice. And then with one minute left, I love that. Another puck.

So what we do. with each other. After five, the two goalies have to come fight at center ice, and then the referee determines who won the fight. That's your bonus point. Oh, we'll come up for something. There's lots there. We'll workshop it. Yeah, we'll work. Do you bet your hat thing? No.

It's looking pretty straight. Is it? Yeah. Well, you know, maybe what it is? You know what I did last night? I was sitting here in my little thing, watching the game, getting ready for afterburner. I had myself a Mexican lager. Oh, ha, ha, ha. That's like, I brought them. Geez, you know what?

It's an early game. It's not too late. It's about 7.30 or so. I'm, I've got some origin, uh, some origin beers downstairs in the fridge, getting nice and chilled. I had myself a little Mexican lager watching the tail end of the game. Delicious. Do you want to show us, give us the, uh, we have, uh, we've joined up our buddies out in Strathmore origin brewing and malting.

There it is. Yes. The Hilton's. Five generations out in Strathmore, they grow it, they malt it, and then they turn it into delicious beer. It's all, it's from whatever you, from field to glass, all under one roof. There's not many in, I think there's maybe one other set up like this in all of Canada, where the family grows it and then puts it right through the brewing process and the malting process. I don't want to bore you with it, but I want to tell you is they make hell a good beer

out in Strathmore and we are pumped to be to be hooked up with them. I know we've already been talking. We're going to find a scenario, a little spot, a little sweet spot. Yep. Out to their tap room in Strathmore to go and do a show and hang out for a bit. If you're ever out that way, I'd be offended personally if you didn't check out the tap room. He's not lying.

He would be offended. Those are the types of things that would offend them. 60 Spruce Park Drive, 60 Spruce Park Drive in Strathmore, the website, or Origin Brewing.C. When you're in your favorite neighborhood pub or watering hole, asked for origin. And if they don't have it, bang your fist on top of the bar and say,

gosh darn it. Get your poop in a group and get some origin in here. Dude's sweet. Exactly. Those words, exactly. That's what I'd say. I don't know what's going on here. They delivered 12 flats of tallboys here.

We filled the fridge and there's a little bunch of flats left over. And now there's four. There's only four. And Jack was sending me videos from a house party and everyone's just hammering words. I was going to say. It's been working overtime. I'm okay with it. You know what he said?

He said, you know what? I don't want to speak poorly about the beer because it's phenomenal. But these little iced tea things, deadly. I was like, yeah, you're right. That is the correct answer. They are deadly. Yeah, and I don't know what's about the beer. Those hard iced teas.

I'm telling sterling, you guys got to start pumping these bad boys. out. I got ideas. I got all kinds of ideas. Next summer. The dean the brewer. Let's get after it. Let's get going. Baker, brewer. Yeah, you name it. Yeah. You name it. Bonds of me. Nothing but yeast. Origin, malting and brewing. Origin brewing.orgianbrewing.ca is the, uh, the website. Why? Nice hats there, fellas. Nice hats. Just saw that. Get you. And in fairness, I think that's the, uh, I think that's the old logo.

Because they've done a full revamp. You can see in the top of the corner there. That's the news. And while you're at the old tap room, buy some merch. They got the great looking hats, shirts, all kinds of stuff going on. You'd go to the website. Hey? Go to the website. They have, I don't know if it's karaoke nights. They got some nights and they got trivia nights. They're having a ball out in Strathvania. Oh, no Strathmore was. If you like fun, the time. Good place, Dean. Careful. They're having a hell of a time out in Strathmore. We'll do the Pinda Report in a moment. Want to once again bring your attention to the hearing loss clinic back on board with us here on Barnberger. I am a very satisfied customer. I was texting with Travis Rhodes, Rhodesy, the proprietor. How's it going with the hearing loss clinic? So good is what I understand. They have the five locations in British Columbia. They got Cranbrook, Crest and Fernie, Golden, and Invermere. Four of them here in Calgary, soon to be five. Ladies and gentlemen. You're teasing this for a bit.

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But this is how you start to, I've been saying it over and over again. When your eyes go, you don't waste time. When you got a sore tooth, you go and get that. looked at. But I think there's something about, oh, it's ringing in my ears or one's better than the other. Why wait? Hearing Loss Clinic. They are the best in the business of what they do, locally owned and operated. They've been doing this for years and years, helping raise the quality of life of Calgarians and people everywhere. Hearingloss.com. Like I say, the technology is fantastic. If you need it, and the good news is you may not, but wouldn't you rather know,

book yourself an assessment. Tud's sweet. Look at me with my French. Hearingloss.ca. And be on the lookout for that new location. Might be very convenient. I don't know where it is, Dean. I don't know where that is. I'd tell you, but, you know, I'd rather not do that. I'm sworn to secrecy. All right.

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third game of the season. I watched it. You watched it. Jack saw it. But what did our heavy hitting postgame analysts think? Let's go to Afterburner edition three. You have to score late power play penalty shot maybe Coleman's not your ideal choice for it but nonetheless when you've got those opportunities I think you got to put the game away and I don't know that they were particularly dangerous on any of those power plays I thought that Markstrom had to be real good on an on occasion on the the capitals man advantage but this was it was a great start I just I I said it today on the other show I don't want to fall into a trap or fall

to something where we're just doing the same show again this year. But because halfway through the first period, shots are 26 to 9. Game is tied at two. Yeah. It's the same show. If you're going to dominate, put him out of the game and put it to bed. Like, get the third and then get the fourth. Sleepy retro there.

Flames are three for 11 on the season. It hasn't looked that good. And to be fair, there's a couple second unit goals. the Duba tip, I believe, was last night, and then it was Rizitschka setting up, someone in game one. They're top seven in the league, but from what we're seeing with our eyes,

they're not staying there. Fair? No, they're not staying there. There's, look, it, Savard is new. There's some new components to it. Ret, you talked about it the other day. I just, I don't think you have any choice

but to get Coronado involved. Oh, he's the best shooter on the team. Yeah, which is maybe an indictment, but it's great. The kid can shoot it. You don't be cute. Don't overthink it. Put him out there. He's your best shooter.

Let him lead you if that's what it comes to. Here's Ryan Huska post game. He didn't mind a lot of what he saw listening to his comments here. I thought we had a, it was a good night. I mean, for a road game, this is a pretty good one for us. And I would say when you look at our three games, we've gotten better every game. That's what we want to keep seeing. So the way we played tonight is the way we'd like to continue to play.

A number of guys, maybe yourself included this morning, talked about starts. You know, you had to have been pleased with that type of first period. Yeah, for sure. I thought we skated and I thought we did a good job of managing the puck better than what we have in the first couple games. So it's a step in the right direction for us for sure. Yes, we would have wanted the extra point, no doubt. And that at the end of the day is what it's all about. But we're getting there.

I can't believe he would just rip them like that. Scree games, my goodness. Just. No, it can't the off date, bagscape. You lose them this early season. You're not going to get them back, Husk. Jeez. It is funny.

While we're listening to Husk of there, I looked up the penalty kill. They're 100% on the penalty kill. Best in the league. There's like four or five teams still at 100%. And they're seventh in power play at 27%. Things could go worse because those aren't going to last. And a lookout with Buffalo.

That's a team of skill coming up on, Thursday night. Okay, so Huska had those comments. We talked about it earlier. Let's hear from Matt Phillips, who again, if not for an attitude issue, read. Well, no, hang on. Let's listen. First and foremost, just like to send my thoughts to the Snow family back in Calgary. It's a pretty heavy thing and everyone involved. It's a difficult thing, but they're making the most of it. So just sending my thoughts there. Class act all the way through. You love to see the kid, A, having success and B, being rewarded for all the hard work and being a great human his entire life. He's 25 and he's finally getting a kick of the can here. Good for him. There was also, I saw a video last night. I think it was

from the Capitol's Twitter or X account, whatever you want to call it. And they had in the in the locker room afterwards. And, you know, great, congrats to the goalie for getting a new kid. And, you know, Mattie Phillips gets his first goal in the room. She was like, oh, like, they, like, they, like, They love them. They love the story. They love the guy already. And it was Carberry's first NHL win. He got the game.

I know, but lots of good feels in that room. Well, and I guess if you put yourself in someone else's shoes, I can understand why Matt Phillips didn't get a shot. They were so deep. And they really didn't have any, anyone that they could have taken out of the. Oh, and there's Nick Ritchie released from PTO, September 20, that's a while ago.

It is a while ago. That backpack's got to be filling up. It's a new item there. Yeah. And we shake a few old ones out. Like there hasn't been a lot of Troy Brower, smear jobs lately. So that's going to fall out of the backpack.

He's been retired for about a decade. Yeah, that's probably why. Nice you to lay off. You're welcome. And good to see you around town, Troy. Let's hear from Darcy Kemper. Kemper had the unusual shutout, or shootout celebration.

Well, it's because he's a new father, which is great. Look at the smile on his guy's face. Was your son and just everything that's been going on. Make me tear up here. you know his first game he won't remember it but uh nice to nice to win the first one from that's for sure oh

Alberta guy am I right good Lloyd or something like that too good it's great last night I thought by the way Saskatoon right right isn't it was too that's right played in red deer there you go well at least he didn't go back to Edmonton so nice of the flames to really boost morale in that locker room last thing. Yeah, you know what? Guys tearing up, having their first NHL wins, goals. Wait till Washington comes to Calgary. They're going to do the same thing.

5.9 for Huberto. It's going to be unbelievable. That poor bastard. When Washington's coming to town. He's not even tired yet. He's still excited. Oh, so great. Is it? Off day today. Here's what the rest of the road trip looks like. They are in Retsville right now.

Buffalo off day. Not quite Miami on a Friday, but. What are the horn from the bills game? How's the weather? It was rainy. It's not bad today. You could get out there and hit the ball around. I think they had a team outing going on or something.

I heard. Slow pitch? Yeah, absolutely. Dinger is left and right. Spike ball. Columbus on Friday, that's the second half of a back-to-back. And that's Johnny Knight. What about Vladar Night?

Is it Vladar Night? Yeah, I think sniffing around. At one point, it was a plan for Vlard. Yeah. yesterday. And I think there's some tickly throats is sort of what I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, I've, potentially happening. And so that might have derailed an original plan. But I would be stunned if you didn't see Vlodar and the back to back. Do they take lozenges on the road or do they have to kind of reicola? You got to declare, you got to declare that. Yeah. Cross. We got a few guys out too. Jocamo's out today. Not going to be a practice. I'm not.

Who? Jocamo. Is that one of your kids? Jocamo. Worst name drops ever. The worst. Your, your Buffalo

little inner circle of kid hockey name drops are the worst. He listens. Oh, it's, uh, Jack, Jack, Jack Armstrong. He's driving in the truck right now. This kid, uh, scored a goal last night. Georgie Sweetluck.

That's right. Yeah, George. Fireman. bad armies okay NHL news let's go hey remember the New Jersey devil's perfect in the preseason no one's been perfect forever

devils devils devils devils devils maybe things aren't so rosy Tim O'Mire John Reno and our boy second round trade Curtis Lazzar backpack a single shift last night in the third period now for Lazzar that's not crazy he's a fourth line guy

Marino decent it is great Timo Meyer just got out of the deadline they give him all the money Timo! What are you doing? Fire Lindy. They just extended Lindy like two days ago. He's pretty safe.

If you fire Lindy right now, he might be smiling the rest of his life. Oh, he'd be pumped, wouldn't he? Get some of the paid leave. Yeah. He and Darrell could go sit by the fire together and count their money and cackle. Nice. Curtis Lazare, I'm just looking here. 2017, I believe, was the trade.

Before the expansion draft, you wouldn't need a second rounder there or you could have got players for second rounders. So that's how deep the backpack is. It was a horrible deal. He had like two goals of career high. I tried to sell it as it was a good move. He's a great human. Let's not like character wise off the charts,

but it was a bet for a player to do something he'd never done, which was score at the NHL level. If only they listen to me, don't you know that loudmouth, We've said it for effing years. Clearly we can run the team. Come on. If you clearly listen to our advice, it'd be huge.

We'd run it. Into the ground, but we'd run it. I mean, they're doing okay. As long as we don't have to worry about numbers and any of that, BS would be fine. Would we have like five coaches the last 10 years if we were running this thing? Nope. No, because Rhett would be coaching. And we'd be hanging banners and having parades.

Come on, fellas. Give us a call. Elsewhere, good little finish to the Rangers coyotes. Well, kind of after the finish, really. But it's been a little feisty start to the year. There's boys. There's been some fights, been some melees. Now, Hayton is involved?

She's Starkey. It's right in there. Shasturka jumps in. Hayton went after Ligrin. Igor needs to get out of there. It's a bit of Chad. Oh, this is really broken out into something nasty. Power bomb.

That's Dumbie. It's already scored. for his new team, hasn't he? Watch your skates. Schmaltzy and Dumbie. Watcher skates is right. There's a close call there. Do you like those coyote jerseys, the originals?

Yeah, the peyote coyote. I'm all about that. That's their best one. The Kachina, I think they call it. Yeah. Anyway, coyotes, they lose 2-1. That's a good team in their building. Dean's been promising this caliber-free prediction thing

and just definitely based on how we roll. don't know if it's ever going to happen, but I do want to say, I am bullish on coyotes this year in a serious way. It's all right. They're projected it for 74 points as the over-under to beat. Are you kidding me? That's like barely better than last year's team. Because you kind of hate them.

The owner's an idiot. GM's done a great job. They've been stockpile picks for years. Jumping back and forth over that fence, oh, the owner's a moron. But aside for that. Not like that guy trying to jump over that chain link. into the water the other day.

No, no, I'm clearing that. You scale it's clear. No, no, that's easy. All kinds of clearance for that. Don't worry. Let's go to the NFL. Things were feisty before Dallas and the L.A. Chargers played

at SO-Fi, which I believe is a home game for the Cowboys somehow. Right, because it's the Chargers and they don't have fans in L.A. Ooh, this is feisty. No, what? Shovey. Bang, there goes a helmet.

Welcome back, Austin Echler. Popped right in the yap. Poor Echler. It was a sign of things to come. Meckler couldn't get things going on the ground and the Chargers did lose the game. The game hasn't started. Is he hand out a penalty or does the- I feel like there's a fine coming from the league?

I don't know what the-fell of us. Is that a cop issue, right? Police. Yeah, this isn't a game. There's no officials. This is now an abuse, sort of violent act, right? Yeah. L-A-P-D has to take to the field.

I feel like that might be busy. All right. Chargers, lose again. What? how tacto? No one really did great on offense. The thing about the Chargers, Dean, is that you have a young star quarterback. All you need to do is probably just give them a defense on an O line and you're going to win a lot of games, right?

The Chargers have spent the second most money on their defense in the last two years of any team in the NFL. They've tied up the fourth most caps base on defense the last three years. And yet, since hiring Staley, a defensive coordinator that came over from the Rams, they've ranked 28th, 29th, 29th, and 32nd by different defensive. measures. What the bleep are you doing? Ooh, that's bad. That is. That's right. And Rhett, we'll get to that. Don't worry. That's next. Chargers lose. Cowboys win.

Remember when everyone loved Staley? He was going for it on fourth down. He was a renegade and he's a gun slinger. And he got to love the way this guy. He's got faith in his offense and faith in his team. Let's them decide it. 10-7 at the 15-yard line. Let's go for it on four-time. Kick the field goal tie the gaming knob. He might be the next coach fired. All of a side. The odds, I think he would be top two or three.

Probably, right? We can research that. All right. All right, Rhett, you showed it off. Let's have a look at the standings. Dino, the 72 dolphins have not popped champagne yet, because look at you, you're 6 and 0. The Stink and Bard Painters, what a run.

And retro in the mix, simply the breast, four and two in our fantasy league. And Antonio Clown, our boy Jack, he drafted Cooper Cup, Corpse. He drafted Jonathan Taylor, MIA. They're both back. And Camara, who was suspended. And Camara was suspended.

And he's 500. So look out for Antonio Clown chasing you down. I finally got my first win. I'm one in five. It's miserable at the bottom. Now, in fairness to me, I was trailing last night. Two minute warning. I'm down to Derek Wills.

My kicker, the Dallas, whatever his friggin name is, field goal. I win by about two and a half points. That is beautiful stuff. Just for Dean. Thanks. Yeah. But it's a, it's now a disaster because Justin Jefferson's hurt. Yeah, you're already missing.

And my other running back, Williams, he's going to miss this week. And Breeze Hall's on a buy. And it is biopolis. A biocalypse? It's a tough week for buys. Six teams are not playing this week. So be very careful with your fantasy. A lot of dead bodies in the running back room on,

waivers. It'll be interesting for claims this week. We know McCaffrey left. Chicago's situations up in the air. They're still missing Herbert. Can Johnson go there? The other situation we're watching is Kyron Williams in L.A. The Rams, he's hurt. He's not playing this week.

No, there's a lot of injuries plus buys means that you got some decisions likely if you're playing fantasy. So heads up on that today. I saw it today. Leonard Fournette might be coming off the scrap heat. Playoff. Lenny. Going to join a

may join a playoff bound team. He's done it once before, rebirth, so maybe he does it again. Boomer has it. Boomer has it. Here's the scenes last night in Philly. Was our boy Frank there again last night? Or was this?

This was the night. Yeah, that was last night. Let's look if you can see him. Where is he? For Swarber in the regular season. Harper, deep in the right center, and he'll watch this one fly. Second home run of the inning.

Is it just me or every time we go to Major League Baseball highlights is a Bryce Harper just crushing balls into a euphoric capacity crowd and it's not that easy to do no swear to you if you don't follow baseball it's not that simple but he doesn't all the bloody time there's aano same deal he's on a heater yeah schwarber I was going to ask Frank yesterday that I probably wouldn't have had the answer I read an article one time about how many times Bryce Harper went to the Little League World Series because teams would pay him and his family to go with their team to the Little League World Series, like over a span of however many years that you're age eligible to do it.

He went so many times and was so good so many times at the Little League World Series. Kids good. The real world series just three wins away all of a sudden for Price. We'll see. Schedule. Here's what we got tonight. And tomorrow, I believe we threw in there as well. well. Philly's game two from

Philly, more of those vibes. Then a scene switch in the ALCS. After an off day today, it'll be Houston going to Texas. Rangers have not, that should say lead to nothing. That's a mistake there, but whoever's running the Major League Baseball app. They haven't lost in the postseason.

You haven't lost. That's good, right? Is that bad or good? In the playoffs, it's really good. That's good. Finally, we have some news to announce. That's bad.

Yes. Next month, this one is not good. And it has me worried. Jack cover his mouth when he coughs. No. Local man paralyzed after eating 413 chicken nuggets. Paralyzed?

Paralyzed? Did he fall off his chair and hit his head? I don't know this is real or not. This could very much be fake, but... 42 is a long way for... I owe you 42. Well, I like Swiss guy 25 with the... So the limits 412.

So then the limits 412 then. Good to know. 413 chicken. God, I need to know more. Over what type of a time span? Sauce or no sauce? Drinks? Are we drinking with that?

Is there, we have a surprised? Are you hitting the bong beforehand? What do you need to do to keep that appetite? Are you paralyzed like for life or just? For real life. It's the internet. It's got to be true, guys.

You can't be asking hard-hitting questions like this. Just trust it. Those do look good, though. I love the ones the other night at Greta. Very different than the clown nugget, but I enjoyed them. I'm looking forward to our debt repayment. Let's do it this weekend. 42 of those is a significant...

They were bigger. We'll see. I will help you. We have to size them and make sure we can even weigh. What we could do is you could weigh 42 clown nuggets and see what... 42 is 42. Okay, screw you. That's it. That's your Pender Report. Thanks, too.

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I saw the headline come up and I figured, okay, well, I've seen that one, and we've shown that one on the show before. It's a new one. Suffice to say, kangaroos are assholes. Don't be up with kangaroos. What's up with kangaroos, dude?

If Ozzy Brad is watching, we could use some on-the-scene reporting. Well, I wondered if this is Ozzy. Brad because we know Trigger is dog right. Yeah. Ozzy Brad, our buddy from down in Melbourne. He's got the demand cave going. He's got Trigger his dog. Melbourne.

And saw this video. Look at this asshole. I can't you have something hitting. Look at my dog. The kangaroo has a hold of dude's dog. Look at him. Dude, look at me. He's jacked.

Dropped his phone into the water, got the to the water, got the dog. That's like a moose and a man put together. That is freaky. Look at the friggin biceps and shoulders. I know. He's like, hey, let him go, you freak. You pervert.

You're sick pervert. Look at the arms. Look at the arms on this. If you're not watching, you got to go and get on the old YouTube. They're kind of becoming snakes for me. They're disgusting. They're really gross. And then he takes the first shot.

Look at the claws on him, too. geez. Oh, good. I gave you a punch in the, what does he say? Sorry, Jacko. Start it again. What is he saying to him

as he's approaching him in his, in the Aussie accent? I got my dog. Yeah. I got my dog. Yeah. And I can't show.

I've been hitting. Look at my dog. I got my dog. Yeah, and the claws on that thing. You know what? You're right, right? Nightmare stuff. Don't like it.

Another reason not to go to Oz, Dean. I don't, I'm sorry. But I feel like I want to go, but it's starting to stack up. When is this becoming a show, a nightmare on Elm Street type of scenario? Christ, look at the tabs. Nightmare in Melbourne. That asshole is doing crunches all day. I know.

He's just planking and doing push-ups and burpees. That asshole is ready to bleep people up. Frigin kangaroo Pilates over here. Damn marsupials. Settled out. Hey, some marsupian. Mix in a burger. you health nut

you freak I just want to grab by the ears I'm losing that fight oh yeah you're toast oh look at the closet he lodges at him jeez oh

retro how you doing hate it hey I'm grabbing a stick I'm not going out there empty handed I don't like that you know what and growing up. Oh, there's a kangaroo

with the little Joey. Cute. A little Joey in the pouch at the kangaroos and boing, boing, boing, bouncing around. Yeah, until they're slicing your friggin aorta with their claws. Nice aorta drop. I feel like maybe the moms and the joys

are much nicer because you can, there's in Canada, like around Vernon. You can go to like a kangaroo park. And it's not like you're looking across the fence. Get the hell out of here. You're in. You're in. You're in. A park with drugged up, doped up hippies with kangaroos.

Yeah, let's visit there. Good idea. We took the kids in there like two. You can go up and pet them. They're right there. No chance. I'm telling you, there's a place, like dozens and dozens of them just walking around and eating the grass.

It's great. I'm not going. No, what I'm saying is I think the moms and the kids are docile. It's the dads that are assholes. It's kind of like this show. Kind of like this show, yeah. You know what?

I have a lot. It's in the Okanagan, I'm telling you. Don't care, not going. I'm never going, because he'll be standing on the other side of the fancer. He'd be looking like. A fat boy, bring your ass in here. Look at you. You'd be delicious.

I'm going to take my little claw here, and I'm going to open you up. You're a vegetarian. They eat the dog. I'm going to gut you like a fish and just feast away at your gooey innards. I think the herbivores. They just fight for pleasure. Really? I think so.

Makes it worse. I know. Because that really just fight for fun. Now remember, because the first one of these first videos that came out and the guy was, the frigging thing was standing at the doorway. Remember it's like, look at the size of this prick on the other side of the front door with the shoulders and the biceps and everything. It's like, that's not real.

Kangaroos are herbivores and like to chew on grasses, herbs and shrubs. Besides humans and wild dogs called dingoes, kangaroos face few natural predators. That's why there's such assholes. No one's keeping these jerks in check. You know, I find that hard to believe. That looks like somebody that's on it. That's a lot of protein. That guy eats steak, you think, okay?

There's some real protein. That's no, no, no. Yeah, that's hammering. No carbs, no sugar. He's lean as shit. That guy's eating. He's just hammering. Him and Joe Rogan are having elk steaks.

He's on my wife's up. Three times a day. And he's got, and you know what? He's a sick bastard too. I mean, let's, poor dog. Commodore called Babcock a pervert. What's he going to say about this guy? Take a look.

Keep your eye open for the kangaroos or assholes T-shirts coming to the Nation Gear store. Look at the shoulders. Dude, the claws with those arms? AI, it's not, right? Look at the claws. No way. Oh, man.

I guess we should probably move on. Yeah. We need Ozzy Brad to weigh in here. Are these, like, how much of a menace are they? Because you can get kangaroo hamburgers. They don't eat meat, but you can eat their meat down there because they're like, we're just going to call these assholes. There's too many.

I would, you know what? I'd be up for that. Yeah, there you're right. I feel better while now. I need weaponry. Stay in the cities, eat hamburger burgers, do your part. Coming up, over at the Grey Eagle Resort and Casino, the event center is going to be G.

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I don't know if you saw the comments. I think it was a Mr. public pain there who was, I think he's the awkward hugger. He's the awkward huger. He had the weird hug. He had a good drop there. He was a nice callback.

He's clearly got a good memory. Remember the neighbor that was accusing the other neighbor of, of harboring animals, his cat, the cat pervert? Cat pervert. Kangaroo is a dog pervert. I'm telling, that's what I was saying.

That's what I was saying. A dog pervert. Cat pervert. I'm trying to keep up, Mr. Republic pain. Down there. Good God. You watch Trigger.

Keep them close. No, I, Brad. Keep your head on a swivel. You know what? He's going to set us straight because you only see a couple of these videos. They live amongst these. Brad will let us know what's happening down there. Is that like seeing,

is that like seeing a white tail deer on the prairies? Is that just just, No, it'd be like seeing a black bear. Ozies are freaked out in Canada. He's like, yeah, he's going to run away. He's fine. But how often do you see a black bear? I see them twice a year.

Every spring, the high end for me. I would take the un-grey. There's not many in your yard, so you see zero. Southeast Calgary, the populations are quite low. I haven't seen any in years. They haven't been in the... May long.

They're not... I haven't been into my bird feeder. Yeah. Or sniffing around my barbecue. There was a moose, a couple of mooses in the McKenzie Lake. And where was it there was like a lynx or a Jaguar or something? Remember it was like walking across the top of the. The bobcats are everywhere.

The bobcats are all over the city. And people are missing little purse dogs and cats. Don't put up signs. Just understand the bobcat has them. What the age? Where are we building these bobcats? They live in the river valleys. They love everyone's little purse dogs that are all the

rage. Let's request our listeners. A lot of people have these cameras in their yard. Bobcats all over. So you've got some footage, send it into the barn burner. If I were to be leaving my house for I have no idea why. But if I open my front door and I see a bobcat in the front yard, that's not good.

But if I see a six foot three ripped fucking kangaroos staring at me. Yeah. I'm shit in my pants. We got within like 25 feet of a bobcat and it was like, okay, there's a few of us, not too hard. Because I feel like you could, who's that? Too hot, that bobcat, he's out. He's leaving. I don't

think that kangaroo's leaving. He's like, I'm, I'm here to kick ass and chew bubble gum and I'm all out of bubble gum. Fat, so. I'm here to eat your meat and take your wife. Put your dog there, fat boy. Mine handing that over. Hey, fat is past the lays.

Those fresh buns you got in the kitchen there? Tubby. Those are mine now, mate. He would have an accent for sure. That's a good point by you. Hey, this day in Flames history, it's a presentation of our good buddies over at McLeod.

Our events partners. Yeah. And just they're kind of an OG. They've been with us right from the start. McLeodlaw, Peter Klein, they were at the season opening party last week. God love him. Peter Klein, you know, he's the personal injury guy.

Also the go-to guy for disability insurance here in the city. If your long-term disability insurance company is acting like a kangaroo, they don't want to pay those insurance benefits to you. Contact Peter. He'll get you those disability benefits that you paid for and deserve. He will show that kangaroo who's boss. What would Peter say to the kangaroo do? I don't know what he would say.

Well, you say something. Oh, mate, this is my dog now. Is it the kangaroo or Peter? I don't know. You're going to listen, you asshole. Yeah. Look. You're breaking the rules and you're going to pay.

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Where do I put it? I didn't print it out. I'll get it. Stand by. Is it a good one? please tell me it's a good one. Well, you know what? It's, I didn't have a mixed bag.

No, it's good. Okay, no, a good one. It is a kind of a, this day. It's a record that still exists. We go October 17th, which is today, I believe, 1989. I knew it was going to be 89. All those records are 89.

The Calgary Flames are at La Colisee in Quebec City, Quebec, to take on Le Nordique. Lesnar Dix? It is 1-0. Curtis Leschishan makes it 2 to nothing with a shot for the point. Nord's love and life, great jerseys. Michel Goulet, side of the net.

Michel. Elavut! That makes it 3 to nothing. Flames Pro Scout, Michelle Guley. That's right. Flames get to within a couple, Gary Souter, or actually, yeah, this is Stasney.

Bernie. Stassney makes it 4 to 1. There's the shot. Another shot, side of the net. They score again. But the Nordiques are going to, Mike, they're going to turn it up here. There's Guy.

Guy, Guy, Guy. That makes it five to three. Peter Stasney, his second of the game, six three. Holy fellas. To the third. Vernon's still in that? Yeah, they don't pull. He's still in there.

Joey Sorella shot seven three. Joe Mama. Jeff Brown. Tucks it in, eight three. Oh, man. Six and a half to go. Gary Roberts. gets one. Then another.

Boom. Then Poplinski. He makes it eight to six. Three goals in 23 seconds. Final seconds of the game. Short-handed. Otto. McKinness, Gilmore, scores. Yes. Fifteen seconds left. Off the draw, Gilmore to Ranheim, scores.

You've got to be kidding me. Two short-handed goals in four seconds. NHL record. Never. to be beat. 633 left, trailing 8 to 3. They score 5. It ends in an 8-8 tie.

Can you read that headline for us? Can we go back, Jack? Let's, uh, for, uh, Le Finetra. Ooh, Ray, the board. Never to be beaten. Two shorties. Wow.

Right? Yeah, read that for us. Sorry, Jack. Uh, uh, Le Flem. Farn-Rage, Pondas. Can we go back just to see how those two, because it is, it is that record. Two shorties in four seconds.

So the first one is, this is when the comeback starts. This is what eight six from Papp, isn't it? So this is the Piplinsky goal, makes it eight to six. And then like you said, Red,

they call time out, Otto wins the draw. Look at it. Boop to McKinness, all on the side of the net, Gilmore. What the hell is the defenseman? And then off the draw,

one, two, three, four. Both of them are short-handed. I think that's Stefan Fissé, in that.

No. No. So there you have it. Calgary Flames, Quebec Nordiques 8-8, October 17th, 1989 at the Coliseum. We're seeing Guy in a Norse jersey.

There's just nice seeing them. Flirts true. So there you go. That's Gorsh. Are you kidding? A lot of points there. Yeah, that was point night for both teams, wasn't it? All time hockey. And Red, I know, Vermeerney. Never doubted you, Mike.

Never doubted you. If it was why, he just said, I'm out of here. Trade me right effing now. Anyway, that's, so that was, yeah, you love talking about the 89 team. I know, Rhett, so I thought I'd bring that to the table for you today. He was excited. His face just lit right up when you said 1989. Yeah, yeah.

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We're going to be doing a number of events. Yes. We can get one for February-ish, maybe. Maybe January-ish. Maybe in December. trying to do a little, trying to do some good things. McLeod law rubbing off on us. I'm going to need a lawyer with me when I eat those nuggets

because you keep trying to bully me into other dumb decisions. Nah. Not me. I'm just here to steer you straight. Right. That kangaroo. I've sent a note. We're going to have an Ozzy Brad update this week.

I'm telling you, I've got the Ozzy Brad request out. I said, we need a kangaroo update. It's around the one hour mark of today's show. Just get us up to speed on what's real and what's not. So I would expect we get some thorough reporting in the next 48 hours. It's like 17 hours ahead. It's tomorrow there already. It's weird, though, that there's a few of these videos floating around.

Yes. Of these weird jacked kangaroos. I know. Maybe this is one breed. I don't know. And you know what it is, too? They've kind of got that steely. Go ahead.

You want to try me on for size? There's a cut. There's a real air of confidence. You want a piece of this? Oh, you want to step to me? Jack wasn't hung over. He could find more videos of guys fighting most things. Yeah, Jack.

Hammerhead. Jack came over a 20-hour day yesterday. He's like bleep off guys. Oh, did he? Four shows. Why do you do that when you're hung over all the time? Good for you. It's youth.

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I feel like there's been a few of those over the years. Also, it's a Stanley Cup rematches, Colorado's in Seattle. Remember it was the Crackin that knocked off the abs last year? What? It's true. It happened. But I am going with the main course of the Diamondbacks at Phillies, Frank and his wife going to be back at it, ringing the bell,

Harper and Company, ripping dingers into the night. That is your marquee matchup tonight, and I'm going Vietnamese sub. If the bun is done right, it's perfect. Love a good Vietnamese subrette. Bon me. Balmy. Yeah.

Delicious. I thought I got a reaction under it right there. I was going to say it's because the French and the Vietnamese combined cuisines. That's why the Vietnamese food is so good. Oh, okay. So it has some history as a nearby. The French baguette. Yes.

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That's a tough. that sub might not be hot by the time it gets there. Yeah. There's a hot sub too. As fresh as that sub may be when it leaves, the ends might be a little hard, but don't blame DoorTash because they're the best. Let's do our Betway bets.

Betwebets. I know this is, you know, people don't want to hear about the oilers or whatever. Everyone's an oiler is sort of the any good. They've got to lose every game. 0182. So what's going to be this year? I don't think they're, you know, going to lose 82 straight. I think they're going to bounce back at some point. I think it might be

tonight. They're in Nashville. Couldn't stretch out a little longer, Dean? Just a little bit of fear up in Emmington. I'm getting plus money with Leon. No way. Anytime goal for Leon plus 115. Two plus points for Leon plus 115. Love the two point. Early in the season before things kind of get in. Didn't they combine Leon and the. Yes. Even more reason. to jump on that two-point bet ret. They've been McDavid and Drysett on the same line. Two games in, not panicking at all.

They only had one five and five goal, though, so we're changing all the lines. It's nice to have that option, though. It is a nice thing to shake it up. Yeah, what do the flames do when they need to go? Who do they put together? Clearly, they're top guys. Huberto and Cadry. I did that last year.

Did Jack laugh at that? Did I hear Jack laughing in the background? Is that a huff out of Pinder? That was me. I honestly, there's a part of me that thinks those two, will end up together and it's just going to be like this is going to be our problem child line you guys just go away like we'll put someone else with lend home you know back your negativity is really bad today come on the other parts just those too i just it's it's really

grim when you look at those are taking stray bullets Troy Brower out of nowhere taking it right in the ribs like nice guy great agent it's really more for shot at your living if we're honest you take that money if you're Troy you take that money build a house. I can't believe I got an offer. I'm already building my dream house. What are the odds? God.

Oh, geez. I have more examples, but you're going to accuse me of knocking them down. We've already offended enough people today. Here's my bets of the day. Hope I don't offend anyone. I think the connects are for real guys, at least when they're playing Philly.

Vancouver minus one and a half is plus 165. Here's why I like Vancouver. They've upgraded the decor. they're going to get a better Demco because that's as bad as he's ever looked in the NHL. And I think Talk, it's actually a really good defensive coach. Minus one and a half at one of the worst teams in the East pays plus 165. And the abs have revenge on their mind. Sure you beat us in the playoffs, but we got you game three.

Ha ha! Yeah! Plus 160 minus one and a half. I feel like we need to clip that, you know what, guys? I think Vancouver's going to be really good. They've upgraded their D and I think Rick Talk. a good coach. I feel like there's just some reason. We should be keeping that for at some point.

I'm not saying they're going to win the division, but I am saying that this is a team that is going to be in the mix or a playoffs on this division. And remember, this is an NFL. We've established NFL, you bet against what I'm saying. I told you to bet Phillips plus 450 last night. You're up 550 bucks. You're welcome.

Yeah, King Chronic on the chat. He says, always remember, bet the opposite of Pinder. Oh, yeah, you lost money on Phillips last night, you jerk, chronic. Betway, get the Betway app on your phone, play along in game prior to some future bets. It's all there for you. Betway, our buddies, bet the responsible way. Vancouver 14 to 1 to win the Pacific Division.

What was that, Dean? I don't know if I, that does not be like. I don't see that either. Not sure I like that. A couple things. I want to say, send a shout out to our buddy Greg Keller at Bontan Meets. Greg, love you.

We're thinking about you. He's an OG. Bontan Meat Market. Been around since 1921, been on Barnburner since day one. And also just a heads up. Ask Ret coming up on Thursday. Get those questions in. The email address.

Askrette at Flamesnation.ca. And then in a couple days time, I'm going to apply. I check my emails. And all the questions are going to Marinate inside that tub. Yes. Thursday.

You know what I've just figured out? How I'm going to get back in my NFL picks? I'm going to ask Rhett who's the picks against the spread this week. He's about 500. I'm just going to steal his picks. Go Friday? Back in business. Yeah.

Yeah. Definitely take the Steelers. We definitely could see what Jack's made of this week. We learned a lot today. I am. Yeah. We learned a lot today. did we i think so

one thing we didn't learn i feel like was what happened in the rest of the NHL last night i have no clue we told you that the rangers hold on against arizona two one because we saw the melee at the end Detroit got a win Toronto lost to a team they should have beat chicago but our didn't even get on the score sheet for nothing Detroit beat the Columbus blue jackets shame was a who so bear got his first uh the rhyme dog there's You know, there's so many new players.

They overhauled that roster in Detroit. Yes, they did. You need a scorecard to keep up on that. So yeah, it was 4-0 there as Columbus loses. Florida, they defeat New Jersey four to three. Sam Reinhardt, he's got three already in the young season. So the alley-out from Chucky? Yesper Brat.

Good player. He had one last night as well. He's got three years. Did not. No, he did not. Two-one. Rangers beat the Yotes. Chris Kreider has four if you need it.

I'm up. Clayton Keller, Fini Trowcheck. And yes, the Chicago Blackhawks defeat the Montreal, the Toronto Maple Leafs, 4 to 1. McKenzie and Whistle. Hold on McKenzie. Shelton Keith calling out his top players.

Hey guys, Chicago's coming into town. Free score on the bingo card. Let's go party. Frickin Corey Perry. Yeah. Frank had noted it on Twitter today. Perry's got an interesting case for the Hall of Fame because he's still playing when most of that draft class isn't. That's that legendary what, 03-04 class, Gatslath was in it. The game's played is going to be phenomenal. He has a heart. I think he flirted with an Art Ross and it's like he's still going. Interesting case. How many finals has he been to? A bunch. In a row here recently. Yeah. That's the other thing too. I think he lost with Montreal in the bubble fun. and then he lost to Tampa. Was he in Dallas when they lost the year before? Maybe.

I think he was. He was in Dallas in 20. Montreal 21. They lost to Montreal. That was semifinals. Yes. The North Division played the West and then the winner got Tampa and Tampa won in the bubble. We're not going home.

Stupid divisions. What are you talking? North Division. I don't follow what you're saying. Montreal three in a row. he lost with Montreal in the finals in the final

Dallas didn't get to the final Dallas didn't get to the final in Edmonton no oh sorry yes okay oh because Montreal beat them it was Montreal no Tampa beat Dallas in the final no what was the final in Edmonton Montreal Tampa didn't Dallas

no that was the next year okay there's two pandemic seasons then Dallas Dallas beat, Dallas beat Vegas to go to the final. One of those years, Montreal went to the final. It was the show of them. Montreal beat Vegas to go to the final. Were they both in Edmonton in the bubble?

Or were there one of them not in the bubble? No, because they're, this is painful. Back-to-back seasons. We're both right. Dean's done. See you, buddy. What are you doing? Bye.

What are you doing? was hiding one for coffee with Conrad I gotta go he's gone yeah I was gonna ask him to ask about something Connie doesn't need to catch a stray though

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