Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Monday Morning Frank Bombs 💣 | FN Barn Burner - January 20th, 2025

Episode Date: January 20, 2025

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not. I don't think it's a good idea. Probably not. Probably not. Got it. Yeah, we've got to be able to laugh. Yeah, we've got to be able to laugh. I'm surprised you're here. I thought maybe you'd be off celebrating today. the bills win and of course it's another win it's uh it's no big deal diane this big day south of the border well that he didn't invite me down he didn't surprised i got the pardon from biden i was on that list yeah you and fouch anyone you just if you sent your uh sent him a note yeah could you do me a favor here no wonder you're in such good spirits oh you're off the blue monday after that i'm is this right are we there by it monday i'm cleared yeah that's good news

I don't even know where to start today is we get into our opening statements for McLeod. We got a lot, I mean, there's a lot to talk about. You debating between a hot goaltender or an amazing franchise? Is that your, well, yeah, there's definitely football, hockey. The goaltender's a story for sure.

My boy scored. He's on pace for three now. He did score. A nice shot. Everyone was happy for him. He's cruising now. I don't like watching. I was like,

I was at the casino watch. Really? I see, I thought when you said your boy, are you talking about your kid or your boy? We got to get that update. We got the, hot topic for McLeod.

Rett and I got the big bet going on, 13 and a half goals over under Cozmanco. And he's cruising right now. He scored one in his last one game. Streaking. Nothing more. Yeah. Yeah.

So he's your boy, but your kids. had a big weekend. Kids had a big weekend, a victorious S.O. Minor hockey week, which is the best. Nothing more obnoxious than a bunch of Glenn Lakes, doges.

It was Glenn Lake v. Glen Lake in the final right? And so what? Championship. So this was yesterday, gold medal game yesterday? Saturday. Saturday. So then what happened yesterday?

Yesterday. Yesterday. Yesterday. Yesterday. Because I thought, because I was, you made me privy of some news when you came in this morning. I figured, well, okay, gold medal. Yeah, yeah. Coach wins.

S. Ominor hockey. You're going to have a few drinks afterwards. Hell, yeah, you know. Pinder. And then we're on the ice early yesterday. Ew. Tight turn. Gross.

Yeah. You plan that out. Broose. A lot of good football yesterday. So we, you are. Destroy. Really does. I was hurting the issue.

I was deleting Guinnesses in an alarming rate yesterday. Oh. It's not always a barmerer blonde day. Sometimes you get a switch kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I was wondering. Well, congrats to you. So you felt like shit had to get up early and then decided I'm going to fix it.

I'm just going to keep. It's a good strategy. It works. Figured we'd earned it, right? Yeah. So is this by yourself? Just sit down and start hammering Guinnesses alone? No, no, no, no, no, no.

We got the fellows together. I do look like she. I do look like she did. kids will do mini sticks in the basement dad's will watch football come on got it come on i see it's another game yeah mcclough dashlaw dot com if you ever need legal assistance wink wink nudge nudge they are the very best they're in calgary they care about the city they care about you and they're the best cloud dash law dot com so we can get through the football from the weekend to Saturday,

two Sunday, but I don't know where else to start, but obviously your Buffalo Bills. That's where we started. You know what they didn't? They didn't get Bilsie. It was close to, they gave themselves the opportunity to get Bilsie, and it was almost like it was an anti-Bilsie type of scenario. What were we talking? Like, fourth and goal from the two and a half,

was that what it was, the decision they had to go through? Yep. And that was a big one, because you score touchdown there, it's over. you don't you knew the Ravens were to come back there was yeah just move there was no ice yeah it was like can they stop the two point conversion and i was the largest bills fan on earth outside of ret warner and he was like well tie game and i actually and that's what i said kick the field goal get the tie game kick the field goal get the tie because that's how i felt put the ball in allan's hands with a minute and a half left Yeah, the conversation was let them score immediately.

Yes. So there's still clock and Alan gets to hold it. That's what, that was my approach to the end of the game as well. Yeah. Let's give it to Alan. He's our only hold. So the guy you wouldn't give it to on fourth and three to ice the game is the guy you wanted to get it to with like a minute and a half left. It's, it was a wild finish.

Well, it gave you a shot at two wins by kicking the field goal. Two ways to win by kicking the field goal. That's why. Mark Anders, deep agent double. Yeah. it could feel bad for Mark. Double agent. It's not his fault.

That'll be the, uh, I remember the Mark, the Mark Andrews game. Yeah. Everyone will remember. Yeah. Yeah. There was some thought though. I saw John Gruden. He's like, you've got a guy who's six four, two hundred and eighty pounds in your backfield.

Is a first ballot hall of famer. They didn't use him a lot. And you are not giving him the ball. Late in the game, defenses are tired. You're not giving him the ball for a two point. You didn't stop him in a third, the, the whole time. third quarter. Yeah. So interesting.

There was lots. I mean, again, like I, I really, it was, the bills were good, but Baltimore pulled the bills move and turned the ball over. I thought Aaron was going to toss that. Remember he got wrapped up late in the game and he looked like he was going to get rid of it. No, no, no, no, no, no. That was five years ago he does. He would have. He would have.

Yeah. That's a Lamar did, right? You got spun around and let one, you're like, it was the turn. Turnovers entirely the difference. So it's good for the, I'm happy. Hey, got a good game now. Yeah. Colin in to Casey. Oh, baby.

You against the world, right? You against Taylor Swift. You against the refs. You against Mahomes. You against Goodell. You against the script. Yeah, the script. The script will be big.

It's a lot. Yeah. Guys were happy for me, though. I had anxiety. Deep in the bag, but you were sober. Oh, no. I had serious anxiety. Here's the thing, full disclosure.

Wanted the bills to win, wanted to see it get tied up to see how it was going to end. This is going to be a juicy fit. If they go to overtime, like, this is going to be great. I didn't want overtime. There was lots in the clock when Edward dropped that. It was a minute or more, wasn't it? Oh, it was for sure.

They killed plenty at the end there. Because it was, I think it was almost just under two minutes. Yeah. So Alan would have scored. Was it a cook that ran for that first down to eventually? I believe so. Yeah, and Ray Davis is good. They ran the ball well.

Finally, outdoor team, bad weather. Finally, you figured out how to run the ball. They played good. Philly did too yesterday. Yeah, did they ever. Saquan with a couple serious cracks. A snowball-type game coming up, Buddy Vars was at that game. With his young boy watching the Eagles defeat the Rams 28, 22.

Fly Eagles, five, birds. Who, now, I grabbed the, the, bet 365 odds this morning. Who do you think would be the betting favorite to win the Super Bowl? Well, I have a four teams remaining. That I did look at the other game.

I think it's KC. We'll throw it up here for you. This is, as of this morning, on our president of sponsoring, Bet 365. Eagles plus 185, Chiefs, 220, bills, 250, Commander's 700.

It's probably because of the spread and the Eagles commanders game Ryan, right? I haven't seen the spread there. I was looking at the other game. I think it's five. I can call it up. We got that too. I just think when we get there,

the Eagles are not favored. Yeah, I'm a little surprised that. Like if they play Buffalo or Casey, are they not like plus one or two? Could be. Could be. We are set.

There's the final four. Five and a half point favorites at home are the Eagles, the Chiefs by a point and a half. And that line's been dancing. I've seen it at two, one and a half again. Two? Yeah.

this morning at one point. Well, I went on immediately. I did the same thing. My squad. Yeah. I knew you would appreciate my support. So. Empty it right there.

Five and a half, right? Commanders are rolling. That was quite a game. That was the game. Myons commanders was not quite a game. It was a statement. As I say, this game is drunk.

I mean, it was just points galore, big plays. trick plays and it could not stop Jaden Daniels. Couldn't stop. Couldn't stop him. Clutch fourth down conversions apparently. He's throwing it again. Completion.

It was video game stuff. Yeah. It was video game stuff. It was an amazing watch. Now again, you had the snowballs and things are, you know, tough to get yards and all of that. That's hard nose football. then you had the other side indoors and just a track meet.

I don't know which one's better because a lot of people will say, oh, you bitch about or you get through the entire season, you play football and then you get to a child card or a playoff game. And then it's snowing and whatever you've done to that point, maybe half your game plan is out the window because now you can't run the ball or now your receivers are neutralized. This is what we said about Buffalo forever. So I don't know.

Play for home field and then don't have a run game. Finally figured that part out. kind of more on the side of I don't love the snow games. Ah, see, I totally disagree. Really? Well, I mean, not just because it's you and you have an opinion, but there's nothing better than sitting on your couch watching a game in shitty weather

with snow falling and people sliding all over. Like that. I totally disagree. I would rather see plays being made. I would rather see the best in the world. So the Philly didn't see any plays? Being able to do. Buffalo game.

I didn't see any plays? Like it was it was plays and I think it's irrelevant you saw like two 60 plus yard touchdown runs from sayquine in the snow it was awesome I just don't think it just matters they're not changing anything they can't make no it's just better like it's just cinema it's it's unreal I don't think it's better or worse lions I think you can like both the lions game was pretty entertaining Philly Buffalo's getting pretty entertaining yeah how about we stop whining about either they're all right not whining just saying. Not you. I'm just saying that people have opinions. We got to have its root. If you run a football team and you are from Buffalo, you might want to take into account that perhaps there might be snow or weather and plan for. Yeah.

I wonder how they feel. Who's the, does it John Mara, Giants? There's a lot of John Mara on Twitter yesterday. I'm going to lose a lot of sleep if, if Sakelon goes to the Eagles. I'm just going to have a really hard time.

betting favorite to win the super oh oh geez oh guys not only just going to the eagles he's got to do the phil castle if he wins just like right to new york there was also a video and i don't know if you guys saw it over the weekend it's from the heart knocks because they're following different things they have a video of joe shane who's with the giants who let sayquan go they're getting ready for the draft and he's kind of in his office with his kids like who should i take his daughter's like oh he's wearing blue you know she's younger and his kids laying over on the couch. You got to take Jaden Daniels.

You got to trade up and get Jaden Daniels. Oh, yeah. And somebody else says, bleak neighbors or Harris and J. or what? Like this, you only get this job once. Like you can't blow this.

You got to, this guy's unbelievable you got to trade for James. He's nailed it. A neighbor's pretty good, but he's right. He's not, but he's not wrong. At least,

at least now. Exciting. I'm actually paying Danny Dimes and not that running back. With a shitty O line. all those years in New York. Yeah. Unfortunately.

Like no one's surprise he's doing what he's doing, really? Like maybe the total numbers are impressive, but you're like, yeah, of course he's going to shred

behind a good O line. That Dan Orlovsky clip making the rounds again. He was on get up or whatever on ESPN a month before the draft or a few weeks before. He's like,

listen, nothing against Caleb Williams. He's great. But Jaden Daniels has to be the guy. Yeah. He's doing at LSU. You just watch the plays he's making. You watch the poise.

This is the guy. He's a sharp cat. I like you. He's a sharp cat. Yeah. Sorry about your bears. Like, hey. Yeah, you'd look all right.

But, you know, it's not to be. Whatever. So, uh, Flames got to win. It's a good team. Kind of impressive one. You know, shocking to no one.

No, especially in the last couple games. You could tell that they were ready to launch. Yeah. Well, they scored two goals in two games in a week in St. Louis. You knew they were ready. Yeah, they were ready. Do.

Dialed in. Yeah. Efforts were. Did they get to four? No. Really? No. But they still found a way to win there?

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. The goal he had to be out of his flipping mind to do it, but, but he did. And they did. Three to one final.

Ozzie Brad going to fly over when he wins the Calder or were not quite there yet? Is that what it was? Oh, he's got some serious moves. Calder money, yeah. 30 to one or something. Oh. he's coming just a couple more

a couple more wins and shetties let's go plays like that he might have in the bad that was quite an impressive performance I mean chief of you or not that was best game of the year a lot of people were saying again I was hammered or not watching

working a gate but people saying that's the best game he's had all year and I thought the LA game was special he's had a couple shutouts in there too he was pretty spectacular he was pretty spick it was yeah it was quite a night And for some, it'll be that coming out party because obviously we focus on it.

But around the league, you wonder. Coast Coast talking to Canada. This is one of those. Holy shit, this guy's pretty good. But yeah, it was, it was big saves. Not just often like quality over quantity almost. He was, uh, he was dynamite. I saw the scoring chance.

I was like 16 to 4 or something. You're like, oh. Yeah. That's a stolen two points. Thank you, sir. But at the same time, it's, what we've seen, it's not like he was average and then had a unbelievable monster game. This has been building.

It's not like he did anything that you haven't seen him do as far as making saves or poise or confidence or being in the game. He gave his team a chance to win, but he was especially good that night. Yeah, and I think it had to do with the opponent they were playing against. The Jets just, they peppered him, really? Oh, yeah, it was. And with quality scoring. chances, not just lots of shots, but they owned the, they owned the puck. In the last eight games, he's lost twice.

He's had three games where he's allowed more than two. Yeah, the one game against, he'll know he seems to win. They can't score four. That game against St. Louis, which was his last start. The long bomb from Caraco was not great. There was maybe another one there. How does he respond? Unreal. How's that? Yeah. That's a response game for that. And the body of work is becoming pretty

well exemplary compared to his counterpart and how are you rolling the hell out of him you look at the last 15 games i think it's probably 11 or 12 wolves well that's gonna that's what it has to be it has it's their chance to win like their cussom is not coaching for a top 10 pick he's trying to make playoffs they clearly have one guy playing better than the other and if he plays like that it'd be the best team in the league or 1 oh they guess the back to backs okay you're going to get in dan otherwise we officially have a number one and he'll eff it up he'll be cruising over 50 starts easy Dan. Come on.

Daniel. Dan. So, Thursday? Thursday? Saturday? They have one game over a six-day span

and then three and four in three different cities. Great work, guys. Really nailed it. Wonder what they'll do this week. Poker tournament tomorrow. Oh, yeah. That's a good start.

It's really dinged up there. Do you have to go to that? Can't be running late tomorrow. Time this shit starts. That's weird, because usually, you are lobbying to go longer do a little extra yeah we'll just start on time he's like hang on guys i have a little more just give me another half hour i did it on thursday he was he was ready to give a little bit more on thursday you guys were running out of here yeah i got a workout

please outdoor dental i got to go there too do you yeah really what do you got going i can take my kid yeah is he snoring is he got a soft palate soft ballad yeah yeah get in there with the Solaya laser. I can't, I can't listen to it anymore. Yeah, so, I mean, you were talking with dentistry with the Solaya laser. There's no hammers, chisels, nails,

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So a 50-minute treatment, there's two of those. So I mean, roughly an hour or so, maybe a little less than that totally going to be worth your time and could be on your extended bit. If you got those benefit things. Not the benefits could be. Good stuff. Yeah. I think you could sneak one of those in for your kid. Sneak it in for me.

Just slide a slide of 20 over. Any chance? Like you're looking for the upgrade in the room in Vegas. We have extended benefits. I'm sure. Any chance. If you have a bit of an upgrade here for an extra salacious. So lay a laser.

Sir, please put that $5 bill back. Oh, I don't mean to insult you. I was just wondering if there happened to be any, you know, snoring treatments kicking around. Maybe you've already got the laser out if you're going to be. There's got a stake in there. I bet he doesn't need it. No.

I bet he's fine. But if he is in my family, he will. It'll be a matter of time. That's right. But truthfully, if you, if you, and if, I mean, you may know. There's apnea in the whole thing. But if you know, you're not getting quality sleep, you're not getting enough sleep,

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That's quite impressive. I like the way. Oh, yeah. How many people? Have you guys not won the Cowboys? That is the thing with these. There's so many people. That is a nice winning.

What do you win a buckle or a ring or? Quite a bit. Yeah? I don't remember. I've got pictures and stuff. Rich get richer. There's a lot of those guys, the celebrities, the athletes, they just want to get out.

They're just first, first hand all in wasn't that kippers move kippers i'm all in kipper doesn't like people so i think tree was playing blind for like half an hour but he kept winning didn't even look at his cards yeah it's just wild good for them though raises a lot of money for uh it's a great event cause lots you guys should stop in it's tomorrow to have you yeah would they because i inquired and that wasn't what i heard is that right i heard that the right hold rights holders are still but hurt so you know whatever that means so we can't go oh we can go oh i'm going they can't do it's too bad they hate charity and hate the kids i know why do they hate the kids so much we're trying to help the kids

we're kind of fond of the kids want to help out like the kids just trying to be some good guys around here trying to make a difference guess that don't matter guess that don't matter uh why don't we do the pinder report really well i i i uh all right let's go i here's full i i read reached out to Frank Serra Valley, who's our Monday guest. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, um, he was in the snow globe yesterday. He was. He's totally hung over.

So I checked in and was like, are you at this and, uh, received a picture of him and his son? This is the good, said game. Maybe be shocking. Hmm. I'm not sure how, how pumped he is to come on. Our show? Yeah.

Really? I can, yeah. I feel like he's jacked. Because last week. there's a trend you're noticing a trend well last week he wasn't on but he had an abscess in his tooth what so he had to get he had to go get some dental work yeah that's right outdoor dot dental frank um and then he met but he messaged back the next day they's like what day do you want me and then we had the thing well i don't know who's drag are gonna be on he's not going to be on it's like well

if we don't have this guy we'd like to have you that awkward then he feels like a second fiddle um So I reached out today and he responded with, I guess, and then a emoji. I guess. I've never used that one. I use that one a lot. It's good. I think you have to make that noise. I like the face palm.

You're a big emoji guy. And you know what it is with my bad eyesight? I sometimes don't know what you're doing. Right. It's like, what is he's going to only blow it up? Is he sweating? Is he in pain? What is he crying?

I don't know what that. Is that a horse? What am I looking at here? Yeah, I'm not sure what that is. Anyway. So the point of the story is that we don't know Frank likes to come on. So we might as well be a bit of report. Well, I plan to have a guest at 10.30.

It's now 1042. So rather than. I like us to be late or tardy. I mean, I could show you something. I went skiing this weekend. What? at you went skiing. I did.

That's unbelievable. At the hill there? I love, no, at Jigler's Hill. January, yeah. I think it's what I call it. Yeah, take a look. Have you been looking for a place to ski? Come to Jigler's Hill.

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You just keep sliding, right? You tighten that string up. That string just doesn't. It can only do so much. I can really do so much. Snowboarding and skiing. Yeah. Did I see snowblades too?

Yeah. Wow. It's all kind of the same discipline. Same kind of a balance and not searching and sliding. Yeah. That's what he does. That's what I do. It reminds me of a work.

A buddy of mine was in the, I don't want to say, large department store that we've all been in. Big, you sell everything in there. Okay. And there was a lady, a couple of ladies in front of my buddy. And one of the ladies was talking to the other. And it's basically saying that, you know, ever since I have gone to full-time sweatpants, I haven't looked back. Yeah. I'll never

I'll never change. I guess it's just sweatpants full time now. Sweatpants City. Really? Yeah. Okay. Well, I'll have to try that. Once you go sweat, you never quit. I guess you don't. Yes. I guess you don't. We'll head to the... Active wear.

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Go birds. Go birds. Go birds. Hey, uh, Rhett, do you want to see you in New Orleans? Should we do that? I'm in if you're in.

I've never been. Can you show me around? Unfortunately, I can. Oh. You guys get one of those hotel rooms with bunk beds? No, we just need one king.

Oh, no. That's true. Yeah. Oh, baby. We're not sleeping. I'm in, Frank. Let's do it. I'm not sure.

Imagine what kind of damage could Rhett do in a town like New Orleans? Well, find out. Book your tickets before we know it's the Eagles and the bills. It's only going to get more expensive, fellas. Now is the time. I have a flight booked. I need a hotel. Presumptuous, maybe, jinxy.

I've got some tickets. And I've got a line on more tickets. This is your chance to go to the Super Bowl. I need you to come through with a hotel room. Okay, I'll get to work on it. Is this like an issue? In New Orleans, there's none of hotels or no. It's usually not, but I believe there's been some speculators.

Oh, shoot. Yeah. I didn't know you could do that. I'll figure it out, Frank. Yeah. You don't seem worried. I'm not worried. I mean, Patrick Mahomes, what's the worst that could happen?

We don't get there? It's more of the rest. I've wasted money on worse things. And that surprises no one on this show. Yeah. And I think the bills are going to go into Kansas City and have a way. Chiefs D is good, but they're beatable. What is the nonsense like rough in the pass are called?

While that I can't control the refs is always out to get us. Or if, you know, Andrews just catches that ball yesterday. Everyone in the world knew they were coming down to score that touchdown. Shocked that he dropped the two point conversion. My only thought was Allen's getting the ball back. With like 90 seconds. We just have to score. Just a field goal.

Yep. Yep. Never a doubt is what you're saying? I actually, I was more comfortable with that than trying to win it. I said it to Pinder than trying to win it when they were on the three or whatever it was, fourth and goal when they kicked that field goal. I'm like, kick the field goal. If they get the points and tie it up, at least Allen's going to have some time to try and charge them.

You weren't stopping Baltimore. We were joking, like let them score right away. Just don't even play defense the first play. And then at least Alan has some clock to work. Wait, did you guys watch the game together? No, no, never. We work together. Bill Spence were in attendance.

So, okay, all right. How was it in Philly? Yeah. I was, I was soiling myself in the last drive. Were you? A little bit tight for a while. Would they get down inside the 20? They were up 13.

or 15 with 15 with four minutes left? Like, come on, man. That should not be a thing. And you should not let them get down to the 15 after your kicker inexplicably missed two extra points that day. Like, it felt like it was all lining up for an absolute nut kick. Yeah. And yet it didn't.

But yet here you both are. Here we are. And there you'll be in three weeks on the world for where. Ret, are you going to Jasper? No, I don't play hockey. He's back in town now, so he's going to help out with a bunch of stuff. Yeah, he's actually going to get off his ass and do something nice. Jack like that one.

Yeah, you got Jack. Don't step on Jack's laughter. Where do you want to start, Frankie, boy? There's some unlikely teams that are playing pretty well right now. I know what, the wings and jackets are eight and two. The Habs are eight one and one all in their last 10. Big win for the habs the other night. Rangers are actually rolling, too.

I was looking at that. They've been playing. Habs have a goalie from the looks of things. It isn't Sam Montembow? There's a lot of things going on. When things happen in Montreal, it's hockey night in Canada and you win in overtime and everything's exciting. It's kind of a special spot,

even though maybe some of us don't like to admit it. Well, and I think we've, to be honest, we've missed it. Like, they've been grasping for relevancy now for a few years and haven't had any. And it's almost like the fan base as a whole has played the part really, well, right? They've been super patient through this rebuild process, this town that, you know,

for decades, the answer was not when, you know, will the Canadians make the playoffs? It was how deep will the run be? Will they win the Stanley Cup this year? And to go through a chunk of years, a decade or so where even the playoff part has been in question and then not even in question, like we know the answer is no. It's definitely must be a bit of a strange vibe in Montreal, but when it's back, like it has been and you start to see people believing again, it's a totally different feel. And I can just tell, um, looking at our website at Daily Faceoff, oh, wait, some of the most clicked on stories in the last few weeks have been Montreal Canadian stories. They're back. Now this was Saturday, right? Because I have to admit, there was a lot going on between kids and

This morning. It was hockey night. Rangers, Habs. That was Saturday. Anyway, this weekend, we'll get you caught up here with a look at overtime. So dangerous for the Rangers. Panarin in front. Shot out. Absolutely unbelievable glove save at OT. Trotechek again, drops it off. Fox, one-timer. Again, he punches across. Dolbish sensational at the bell center. Dining has the puck through center. He'll weave in. Gully in. Gully across. The Linae story is awesome. There's something about it. European guys that go to Montreal and it feels like home looks like he hasn't in a long time as Linae gets the winner. Another big goal for them.

Jacob Dobish, 5 and 0. I think it was, I thought, I saw him, they were, it was December 28th. He did his solo lap, came out and knocked the pucks off the dash and he's skating around by himself. The 28th, that's like three weeks ago. now he's the toast of the town. You love sports towns where that kind of stuff means so much and matters. Can you pronounce his name again? Because they're so good.

Dobish. Dobish? Dobish. You're, we're all a little dobish. Dobish. You know, December was a tough month. A lot of, a lot of sweets.

Got a little dobish for sure. Trying to get better. Trying to get back on the bike. But anyway, so eight one and one in their last 10 after. well, Kent Hughes comes, oh, listen, we need to stay the course. Well, they were last in the league at some point in November. Like 30 seconds. And the question was like, geez, like I knew this was a process, but are they still that far away?

And now they're one of the hottest teams of the league. And it's like, why not them for a wildcard? Like, you look. I'm not buying it. I'm sorry. I don't think I don't mean to rain on. I don't need to sprinkle on anyone's parade today. But I give the Montreal Canadians a single digit percent chance. to make it. So who do you have winning the Wildco? Do you like Columbus's chances better? No, I like the Rangers.

Yeah, me too. They have one regulation loss in their last 10. If you're to take every team in the muck, without even really thinking about it, who's the most talented team? It's the Rangers about mile. Well, like, they've got the goalie. They've got, like, I think Columbus has been a fantastic story.

And I think they could remain competitive and in the mix. But I'm just not, I think the Canadians have had a great rebirth here and they've played themselves into being in the conversation. But if we're taking the long-term holistic view here of the Canadians, they've still got some pieces to move at the deadline that I think they're going to have to take a long, hard look at, even if they're in the mix. What are you doing with Jake Evans?

What are you doing with Mike Matheson? What are you doing with David Savard? What are you doing with, what if your army has a fantastic Four Nations faceoff? You've got to be still plucking pieces off your roster because that's the great equalizer of this playoff run for all these teams that are in the buck. If you get in and you get to be the eighth seed, congratulations. But are you a threat? There's a few teams I wonder about like if the Rangers are there. They absolutely are.

I think that's a different scenario. But if you're the Canadians, you're going, we're just happy to be here. Jeffiel. One was the president's trophy winner. But you know what? When you can look around and it's while this Hudson looks like, I mean, this guy might be unbelievable player. I'm a big believer in what Montreal is building long term.

I'm just, I'm not this year. Yeah, that's fair. I watched Ottawa Boston on Saturday. It's the best game I've seen all year by a mile. It was intense. It was a war. There was scraps all over the place. Every time I looked up, Brady Kachuk was in the penalty box.

Again, yelling at someone. They were down too late. They pulled their goal in tight with 12 seconds left. They win in overtime. that felt like the sends a real game for me. And I understand that that's hyperbole and that's narrative street. But like we've all been waiting and we all think this might be the year that can finally do it. They're doing all this without Olmark.

And that was unbelievable. And sorry, I hope you saw some of that. It was incredible. Yeah. And that's the team that I'm kind of partitioning off and saying, especially if you can get O Mark back relatively soon, I think they should run away with that seventh spot. Yeah.

and then it becomes a fight for who gets eighth. And so again, like if it's the Rangers and Sends as wildcards, like who thinks that's an easy out? I'm sorry. Like those teams have all kinds of skill. Those are not like blue color, you know, ah, we got here with hard. No, these are skilled teams that can kill you with good goalton.

So then how much really would be separating the seventh and eighth seed from the second or third? Nothing. The full marks back. And if Shasturkins on top of his game, like, why not those two teams? Yeah. I mean, this is a team that won the President's trophy last year and went to the conference final and had a chance to play for a Stanley Cup. I'm sorry, this game was unbelievable.

Like, it was scraps, every whistle, scrums. Like that, and that fan base, not unlike Montreal, it's, it's, they've been patient, and frustrated. And now it's finally happening. Like, it was electric. Yep. what does Boston do here? I know when Neely came out,

what was the last week. It's a, well, we have to make a little pivot here and look at things. It's not swayman. Did they keep the receipts on the lawns that are off? Can they take those back at their return aisle at Costco or what do we?

Tough 47 games. I mean, could be worse. Could have been the Rangers, but now here they are basically the same. Could have been the flames. Yeah. Like,

could have been. Yeah. I had a bigger number probably too. For both those cats. That's Conroy. That's Conroy. So smart. Not signing.

As big as a signing. All that caps. Or they said no. Or he said, yeah, I need good money. I need nine, seven, five a year. I can't, I can't do that.

Could you imagine? I mean, it's nightmare fuel. It's not just the term. It's the contract. Like all of a sudden, the flames are a cap team this year and, and what?

Yeah. No better. And you know what? Some might say there's already some bad money on that Flames roster. Might. Might be hard to find. I'm not sure.

But, you know, if you want to. It's not as bad as it used to, though, the way they're playing this year. And the way he's flying here. He's supposed to be that guy. But he's the one deal where you're like, that's it. Like everyone else is playing to their salary, including Godre, which was a concern when he signed.

He's been fine. So what is the, like, give me a vibe check on the market. Because every time we talk about it, I'm like, this is, I've never seen a fan base so hungry to lose. And I'm saying to myself, this is the best case scenario this, this season. No. They're, they, well, hear me out, though. But they were never going to bottom out because of those guys.

They were never truly going to be the Blackhawks this year. Sure. But again, the worst case scenario is finishing 11th to 15th from the bottom because then your pick goes to Montreal and you're picking in the mid-20s and in the 30s with your two picks from the Devils and the Florida Panthers in a draft class that's good in the top 10 and then tapers off pretty considerably. Like, let's be honest. The worst case scenario for this team is what they're lined up to do, which is just missed the playoffs.

Well, what I'm saying best case scenario is if they get in. Yeah, I think if they get in, no one's concerned about the pick. That's fair to say. You would trade that. Why? Would you, if you're looking at the standings right now and you're watching the Canucks, you're watching what's happening there and you're seeing that they're, almost making a move with Miller over the weekend.

Yeah. I think that's positive for Vancouver now, that they're going to get resolution on this issue that's like absolutely hung over their heads all year. But I can almost guarantee you their team's going to be worse. That's the thing. Without knowing what the return would be, I would like my team on the ice better with J.T. Miller than without a 100%

They've had a team without Demco for three months too. I think there's a 90 plus percent chance that after making the trade that the Canucks are a worst team on the other end of it, which is on paper, sure, but like, that room's the issue. It's the paper they're fine. But what's the room want, Ryan. Well, and that's what we don't know. That's, that's probably a better question.

You might be trading the guy that the room. I don't. Yeah. Well, and the coach now all of a sudden swinging in the wind because he looks like a J.T. Miller guy more than the leas Pedersen guy. And he's got what? And the coaches. Yeah.

That's right. The coach is in the last year of his deal. Yeah. Like, it's, that might be the awkward party. But you might see 20 teams fire. coach to get a shot at Rick Tocket. I'm not exaggerating with that number. Yeah, 20 teams.

I'm not exaggerating. A lot of firings. Yeah. That's a good option for Rick then. What are the conducts? You truly believe they're not, you're worried that even after a trade, they're going to be in worse shape?

Yes. I just don't think they're going to be like, so, okay. I just don't, sorry, the only reason I question that is because teams that are dis, disheveled in the room, don't play well together. Yeah. Right?

They don't perform to their best of their abilities when. But why did they win last year then? I don't know. Well, look, here's the thing. Flames got robbed of a pick in that conditional deal with Lindholm. They could have been a fourth, sorry, a third round pick instead of a fourth round pick had they just won game seven. That's how close they were to the Western Conference final.

Or game six. And they didn't have Demco the whole series and they missed best in game seven. when we get it. They were that close to be in Evanston. And that's why when I look at a team that hasn't had Heronic or Demko for three months and people are saying, no, no, no,

the flames are going to be better than the last half? It's like, what, like, are those not two of the five most important players in the team? Like, I get you might have 80 cents. It's not as simple as. They're way better with Demko and Net

than Sheelovs and Lankan. Let's be honest here. Sure, but that's making some big assumptions that Demco is back to full health. and that he like we're dealing with a totally different Thatcher Demko to for my money you might as well take all of his stats in the past and chuck him right out the window because he's never likely never going to feel the exact same way again with that injury it's it's all a matter of him getting to feel comfortable again with his new reality okay so that's connect talk what are the flames then because Montreal we just talked about. Hold on a second. But I'm just, let's just replay your assertion, though, which is basically like if something reeks in your trash can, you just throw it out and that's it

and it's good. And we're never going to have any issue again. I would think that the reason they're approaching this is because it's leaked into the room and it's having a bad influence on how things are going. And I got, I don't know. And you're trading a hundred point player and getting likely not getting anywhere near the help down the middle that you have. Well, we don't know what's coming back and sometimes it's not net zero. Like you're not moving the guy out.

No, you're right. It's not net zero. But my only point was that it's very likely that they won't be as good. I don't, I mean, I'll say this from where I sit. It doesn't look like it's a one move fix. Miller's out and now everything's good. Demco is going to be healthy and Heronics.

So we got great health the rest of the way and no slumps and Everybody comes in. It's been more than just, it's been a number of things. And yeah, some of it's been injuries, but you're not guaranteed to not have injuries down the stretch and some tough games. I don't know. They've been right where they're at, which is in or out of a wild card for a good chunk of the season.

I'm just as curious and I'm not, this conversation only proves out at the end of the year, and it's not even about being right or wrong. I don't give a shit if the, I don't want the Canucks to make it. But what are the flames trying to be? Like, we just talked about Montreal.

There's no way Montreal that they were making the playoffs here. I don't think so. Did anyone have Montreal making a big jump? There weren't many people in the flames side of the ledger saying, yeah, this is. And so then they do make the playoffs,

which I'm a believer in owners and players and say, you get a chance to make the playoffs, you go for the playoffs. It doesn't matter who you're going to, we've got to play Vegas. Well, too bad. You got to, that's your matchup. is that the flames in the flames best interest long term?

And you look at the flames team and you give them credit for what they've done, absolutely. But their scoring is horrendous. And so are you adding allowing this team to take going? I'm not saying you add. I think you, if you're Craig Conroy, what you do is you sit back. And if you could get a lowercase addition or if you could get the player that fits your age scheme and is going to be there for five years, of course you pull the trigger.

if you can add that right shot center that everyone's been talking about that's between 22 and 25 years old, of course. But I think short of that, unless there's something like, you know, essentially free in the bargain bin that you could give your team as a little reward to say, hey, you guys have played your asses off all year. You've competed. I'm going to give you a little something to try and help. Otherwise, you are just there.

You're not helping. and you're not hurting. I don't think you subtract. I don't think you take away because I think that also sends the wrong message speaking of culture and what they've been trying to put into place here and how night and day different this team is in the room from last year. So I think you continue to try and foster that if you can,

but don't, you're not hampering, you're not helping. That's the general, just straight down the middle here. They could upgrade on the Miramato of Hanley playing top four minutes. and I don't think it would be expensive. That's kind of the tinker when you talk about that I would see making sense. Like those guys are either out of the lineup or the playing with too much with Weger. Like they're either popcorn or top four.

They're not cut out for that. Those guys are six sevens all day. They could use one more top four. We've known that since camp. That's the problem is we've watched that and said, oh, yeah. No good. No, I just saw, I don't, I don't know, I don't extend a fight because we can move on. But I saw your grimace when he, when Frank suggested getting somebody in that.

23. Well, it's just, everyone says it, but like, are they actually going to move first to get guys? Like, what are we talking about here? These are not cheap assets, but I just find 23-year-old right-shot centers. I think you would, I think they would move first, unequivocally would move first to do it. And that's where I, that's where the grimace comes in. Why? What, how do you know what the first is going to be?

You don't know. You don't know. If you're finding a 20-whatever-year-old right-shot centerman, it's a distressed asset and it has risk, too. What if it's, okay. Like if they're good players, they're not traded. Like no one gives away great young centers. Let's talk. So like what if it's, you know, what if we're talking about Dylan Cousins?

I, let me preface that by saying, I don't think the flames have what it takes to interest Buffalo. I think they're poor trade partners. But let's just take that profile of player. Yeah. So again, like it's going to be a first plus plus for Cousins. Like that's a huge spend for a team that's one year into a rebuild. Like they literally. started tearing down a year ago with

Lindholm, Hanofin, Tannab. We're never going to be drafting in a position to get the guys that are true difference makers. No, I disagree. If they're not getting elite goaltending, they're absolutely a top eight pick and a lottery went away from stars. But doesn't the

wolf, like, doesn't the way Wolf is playing this year actually change the timeline in the other direction? It's been awesome, but again, like, it's goaltending. So I love the kid. I love the development trajectory. I think he's going to be a number in this league. I think he's proving to be an elite goaltender, but even great goaltenders have bad years. Like it's just, I could see this team

thinking they're good and making the mistake of like adding the summer. And then all of a sudden he has like a 905 season that isn't elite and it's fine. And he'll get back to being a star again. And they're like, geez, we're really not close at all. Like this is all just goaltending here. I really believe if it's not wolf here, this is one of the worst eight to ten rosters in the league. Would you say you're at all? push back from me that you're at all guilty of putting too much in the draft no i like i think you are i think no i think he's totally guilty talk about distressed assets and that you you make out as though like yes lottery tickets and all that and getting stars it's not like they've been without i mean

they have mac coronado and connor zary these are all good players those are men sex players they're not stars right they're not top line guys they're not different makers they're not driving i like them they don't have a star they don't have game breakers yeah like you need What if Dylan Cousins is? I'm not saying he is. I'm just saying what if that type of profile. Those are the only guys that are likely available, right? Guys that had showed it at age 21 to hit 31 goals and 68 points as a 21-year-old.

Okay, so is he closer to that or is he closer to the 20-goal 45-50 point guy? Yeah, like honestly. Either way, if I'm the same, I'm trying to find out, I'm going, hey, I want to know. I'd rather answer that question for myself as opposed to taking a. guy at 17th overall and hoping, wishing, praying that he be, that he's the next Scott Lawton. Right. But what's it cost? Like, of course, you love the idea of Dillon Cousins, but all of a sudden, someone says

it's Basha and a first and a player. You're like, shit, that's really expensive for a guy that might just be a middle six player. No? I'm still, I'm still doing it. Yeah. And again, I don't know, like, I've heard a lot of great things about cousins. I don't know where he's at. I don't see Buffalo almost ever.

And we put, why? If he's good, why are the Sabers even moving? him like what's happening there please tell us are they that dysfunctional like is this ikel all over again or is it jesse pull yurvy where it's like yeah we draft him for really like oh he's actually not a thing but wouldn't you want to find out that's my only question plus plus if he's going to be on waivers of three years like for michael reinhart i don't think those guys but yeah i think dylan cousins would be a great fit in calgary but i don't know if they can get him and i think that what happens here and it happens i say it every spring or every fall

there's just so much talk about your own players and the buy-in. And then they go to camp and they got to play against the other top players from other organizations. They're like, well, maybe they're not that effing good. Like, Basha is, you're in love with the guy. And that's great. That's great. He's never played and you don't know what he's going to be.

And he could turn out to be great. The point I'm only, the only point I'm trying to make is that there's a little too much love for what we know was flames. Sam Hansick, again, is about like, who is he? He's our first rounder. Would you give cousins for Hansik? They would laugh at you and ask for that plus plus. That's the point, but that's the point is you're getting that kind of pick, but you don't want cousins because you're, you're, what's the word I'm looking for? Fearful of giving away a pick. And it's not even the right term, but I just know what I mean? You're putting so much.

That's all. He might be fine. You're way more likely if you're the flames and the range that they're going to be picking in to get a Mark Jankowski than you are come on like if they pick like if they pick 10 do you think you think you're like you don't like parrick at nine like but what if their best chance of the star is the guy that's a guy that's never played

and might never like well yeah how many times are they going to be picking higher than nine over the next five years well it depends I mean that but that's my point where you trade Rasmus Anderson it's going the other direction with Wolf you're leaning you're trending more towards 15 17 18 than you are to nine.

That's why this is the whole point of friends. If you keep everyone and extend Rasmus, I agree. But it kind of doesn't really line up with their young guys. And I'm not here to say that every draft pick makes it, but there is a large quantity of 18 and 19 year olds in their system. And many of them will be very good NHLers. The time to like supplement like I look at Ottawa.

It's like, yeah, they had all this young talent. It's going to happen at some point. They went too early on DeBringit. They went too early on Chickrenk. It was just like, no, they went on the wrong guy. They didn't have a goaltender. They thought they had gold ters.

Who was the guy from stupid Pittsburgh they signed? Matt Murray. For big money. And he wasn't the guy. And most people knew he wasn't the guy. This wolf has come in. You're in love with them. Wolf changes.

He changes everything. Yet you still, and you have this, I know what you want. You want all the kids coming through together at the same time and ever. That might not be their team, right? Like it might be a mixed bag of 35 and 22. Like you might not have eight or nine or 10 kids in the 25, right, you know, 22 to 27. What this fan base wants is to get out of what we've seen for basically a quarter century, which is very mucky middle.

And you're honestly, when's Wolf's prime? Give me his age. Because I'll tell you how old your best players are at that point. It's starting right now. Yeah. And so now it's like, okay, well, if he's good, we got to resell. on Rasmus, he'll turn 30 the first month of probably an eight year deal. It doesn't mean that. It doesn't mean that necessarily. Well, look, I, I think, but it does change

things. You, you now have a goalie that you feel really good about. It's great. I would think all that means is you are drafting further away from where you really want to be. So now you need to readjust your expectations. Because instead of having a chance to get a top six player, you're likely looking at middle six or bottom six. Yeah, you're looking at New Jersey and Florida's picks in the late 20s and 30s. That's what you're looking at. Those are like easy to swing and miss and not have a player type guy. So that's what I was going to say in there is if it's, if it's 17, 18, 20 as the first plus plus for a player like that. Like you say, they have a lot of drafted players.

What the take a swing on Dylan Cousins with one of those picks and some I don't know. That's not going to interest Buffalo. You're going to have to unload something off your Ross. They're not. I'm just I, I've, I only brought the name up as a ideal fit. Yeah, he'd be a good fit here. He would be good for. So what's, what is Buffalo looking for? Something that's going to help them win right now.

They're not trying to, they don't need first round picks. They've had first round picks out the ass. Exactly. So then make the fit for Calgary because it's easy to say trade 20. He said a name that was, was ideal for the flames to go after as far as why wouldn't you? You can't. I can. I said, I prefaced it and said, I cannot make the flames and Sabers trade partners.

They're illogical trade partners. Yeah. So then we're back to the empty aisle of right shot centers from 20 to 25. Which highlights my point. How do you find difference makers? That's the biggest challenge the flames are facing. And all I'm saying is with Wolf, it's getting further away from that than closer.

Saying the draft is a cop out though, because everyone almost, not everyone. How many? Everyone gets draft picks every year and there's a bunch of bad teams to pick high. Most impact players were drafted. Johnny Goodroll was drafted in the fourth round, right? Like most impact guys are drafted unless maybe they're playing over in Russia and they slide through the cracks and they come over as a 24 year old. Right.

So to say the draft is just an easy. I just specifically think about centerman. That's all. Like they just don't have any. Do you want to play the numbers game? Like, so Pinder, I, because you're, you love the draft so much. Of NHL rosters, if you're talking just core players, so I'm talking your top six forwards, your top 4D, and your goalie, do you want to guess how many on any given team were actually drafted by that team? I don't really understand the exercise.

Are we talking about moving players? No, I'm talking about how do you assemble a team that, I'm not saying a team that competes. I'm saying how do you assemble a team, any team in the NHL, all 32, teams. This is what the numbers are. So your top six forwards, your top 4D, and your goalie, how many of those were drafted by the team they play on? Just give me a number. 18%. Yeah. Like, and? And you're saying that the only way teams get good is by keeping draft picks and drafting. I didn't say that like, I'm saying you have to trade. Look at the Florida Panthers. Look at any team. You have 50 plus percent of your roster is acquired via trade. What you're saying is

good players are drafted high. That's true. But there are, there's different ways. I'm saying the flames are not capable of drafting high. We've established this as fact. They will not bottom out. And when they did, they took Sam Bennett, who was a center. And it didn't work out.

And he's fine. But again, they also had. But it didn't work out for the flames. They also had Cuckech and you also had Monaghan. Like, you've done well at the top of the draft. But again, they don't have centers. Show me how they get a center. Everyone can talk about, go, go get this guy, go get that guy.

These are the deals you can't make. They're the hardest deals to make. Go get a young center. Sounds great. It's what Connie said at his opening press conference. We're a year and a half in. They're no closer to getting a young center. You have to get those guys in the draft.

Like, I get the whole, like, players move. It's not easy. There's no guarantees. But you know, it sounds so simple. Just trade all your good players, be bad and welcome McDavid and McKinnon. No, but what I would say. You do. You do. Every time we have this conversation.

You're simplifying what I'm trying to say. They got to get stars. When the building's this and when Wolf is that and you have started. If it were only that easy. Do you want to win a cup if you're Murray Edwards or do you want to just get playoff revenue? That's the question. So what should they do? Stop playing Wolf?

No, you keep playing Wolf. Wolf's great. That's unbelievable. So then whose fault is it if they admit if they- There's a fault, Dean. It's just you've got to be smart. Like don't extend Rasmus when he turns 30, the first year of an eight-year deal. That would be smart.

I don't understand these conversations, Frank. I get confused because everyone else in the world wants Rasmus-A-S-Bus-Anderson. I like Rasmus. What an asset to have. Yeah, I'm not trading him. But I know, but now you're saying, and then just, now he's no good. He doesn't match their window, that's all. You don't know what their window is.

You keep talking about this window and you've got it all mapped out in your head. So how much team control do they have on Wolf? Like, if you ink Wolf to an eight-year deal, that's their window. Okay. So why is Rasmus Anderson as a 31-year-old not going to be part of that window? He's just, they already have a very reasonable facsimile of a very reasonable facsimile of him in in weger and so you're already starting to see a little bit of tail off and it is underlying metrics and I just think the better like tactical move would be here's a guy making four and a half

million that's probably going to get nine on the open market when the cap jumps to one 10 like go get some assets for all right Dylan cousins sure so that's one that's one player right but as far as their window to win yeah take take Rasmus out of it What if Wolf starts, he's going to be top 10 and say percentage and goals against moving forward? He might finish. He might get Vezinovost this year. What if that's what you're dealing with now? He's not a kid.

He's in his early 20s. It's the greatest thing that's happened all year. So are you going to take four years of the start of his career and say, sorry, kid, we need to. It's, it can't be that. He kind of already did that. They've suppressed him as long as they possibly could and handled him with kid gloves. for sure. Yeah, the bubble wrap is finally off.

He's actually starting more than every other game now, despite having better numbers all year. I just, I, you've heard me. Like, I've been saying it for years. I want the same approach.

Yeah, I want top five picks that you can count on or top 10. And you're like, yeah, we're going to build the problem that you see in front of you, though, is that it ain't happening. And they aren't going to get there.

So you might have to change your tact. I do not. I keep using it as an example. And they went a little bit off the board. and this. Sam Hansek played really well, started the season in Calgary. You don't hear his name. He was that big centerman.

Was he not like, no. But the, okay, so even if he wasn't, he was there high pick. He was our first rounder that we can't trade away the pick. We can't trade away first round. He's never been the top prospect in the organization. It was always. But going, even going into that draft, you would have said you can't trade this pick. Yeah.

I agree. I think they could have better with the pick. Like Gabe Peros sitting right there. Okay. So, but they didn't. So again, Crystal was like looking back. Yeah, that's how it should have gone. But you don't have that luxury. Fine. Yeah, he's a middle six player. But just in general.

But the point more we're making to you is that the draft is. So what pick was that? 15. Yeah, exactly my point. If you're going to pick there, you're not going to get stars. But you're not. But you're not. The roster that Craig Conroy was handed, they're not capable of getting.

I don't know that that's true. I really don't. You just saw Wolf beat Winnipeg by himself. Those are the points that keep you from a top five pick. Unless you're buying out Uberdo and moving Cadry and trading Anderson and cutting off Dustin Wolf's right leg. I'm sorry. I don't see them picking top five. I don't.

And I think they've come to that with Uzi Soros this year. Like it happens. If you want to, yeah, it could happen. Yeah. That's your plan? No, no, no. I'm not saying it's a plan. I'm just saying that even great goalies have years where their teams are bad.

Like, I'm sorry. Kerry Price had teams. I don't, you don't have to say sorry. I still don't understand the point you're making to the words of the conversation. My point is that when you're getting 950 goal tending, don't start thinking your team's good. It's a goalie. And he's going to come back.

They're not thinking. I don't think they're under any disillusion. I don't think they're saying, hey, we're better than we thought. I think they're saying, this is kind of exactly the like the realm the world like if you were to draw a circle on the NHL standings board before the season started and it said will the flames finish in this circle like it's it's within the realm of possibility yes that they better than I would have expected little on the high end of it but still if you were to say like hey we got to hope and pray and wish

that our pets' heads fall off like the National Predators this season and we then somehow luck into it. That's, I mean, that's a whole other thing. Yeah, I'm not, I'm not out here campaigning for the team to try to lose. I'm not. I just think that there's decisions coming forward that are going to be very telling about their approach, whether how far they have to now. Because they're now at the point where they're realizing exactly what I'm saying,

as uncomfortable as it may be, we are in this spot. We have these pieces that are immovable objects. And therefore, we have to adjust our approach because as much as we would like to do scorched earth and have a full scale rebuild potentially and get these top players, these star players, we are not capable. I was all in on the scorched earth policy for last year. and even the start of the issue, I'm like, they got to throw it out the window.

They can't. And I think Wolf has answered those questions, you know, he's underlined them. He's put a high, he's put an exclamation point at the end of it,

which is. And so if you have that goal, and if you talk about correct, our first route, he has to play with someone. Like Weiger and he needs to learn and play, even if he's going to be a star.

he's got to have someone beside him right you can't him and handley no ain't gonna work right so if you're bringing him along and this you know like i've said anderson sure and all this goes back to we don't know what the f you have to give up to get someone and what's coming back we can talk in the general idea but you don't know exactly and if dylan cousins is available the flame should be in the conversation to try and get him if it means giving up the wolf? Probably not. Right?

Like, yeah, I know you're giggling, but that is the point of all. The all these trades are sure. If it makes sense, you do it. It's not just to put a bow on it. It's not to speed up the process because that's the point pinder that you've kept making, which is, oh, the timeline's going to speed up. That part I don't think is changing.

It's just if you cannot bottom out, which again, we I think we've highlighted can't they can't then what can we do in the meantime to push this along that's the thing I think what it does is it eliminates the scorched earth we're going to finish dead last top toothed like this for sure it's just it's just that this summer they're going to have to i keep bringing up rasmus and i feel like people like why he hate rasmus i love rasm i think he's a great player i want to i think there's six teams in playoff spots that fuck there's probably 16 teams in playoff spots when you get there that are like that would be a guy that's an upgrade on our right side second pair.

And that's, it's just like, we don't know what, what could it be, but like that is the decision for me that's going to be. What do all those teams have in common, Pender? All those teams are picking in the dead nuts late end of the first round.

Mm-hmm. How's that helping the flames? Well, I didn't say anything about a return. I just think you're, you'd get a lot of assets for them. Assets that are what, second rate?

I don't know. If you're, if you're Dallas, Would you give up Maverd Bork and some other assets for him? Like, probably not. Really? They only got a second for Tanev. Yeah, and he didn't have two years of control and like is not the value that,

I'm sorry, like Anderson's a more valuable asset. No, yes, thank you. But the point is if you're, let's say you're getting the first, where's Dallas finishing in the standings? Trading Rasmus Anderson is not going to get you any closer to the star, is my point. If that's the mission, like truly what the mission is, then you have to be dead focused, blinders on. This is our mission is to get star players.

Getting the 24th overall pick from the Dallas Stars doesn't get you any closer. You might as well find a way to try and keep everything. What you're missing is that their own pick would suddenly, I think, be a top eight pick if they trade Rasmus. When Kevin Ball is your second best defenseman and your third is Jake Bean, you're not going to be out of the bottom 10. You aren't. Okay.

So then you want to walk in there and tell them this year? No, I don't think they'll do it. I don't think it's easy. I don't think it's easy. But what's that going to say to the rest of your team? Totally. Get me the F out of here. Yeah.

And that's the first domino. And now it's like Blake Coleman's like, why am I here? And Nazam Kadri says, why am I here? I get it. Like I'm not saying. You end up with the exact situation you had last year, which they worked so hard to get out of. Which is five guys immediately raised their hand and say, I want out. See, and this is not like, it's, it's blue Monday, right, Dean?

Yeah, we should blue tonight. Yeah. So, like, just to make sure you said put a bow on it, the problem with all of this in any scenario. So if they, Wolf's good. We'll keep Anderson. We're going. We've got to get into playoffs. And we're, this is where we're going to clump up for the next few years.

They're going to get shit kicked in the playoffs. If they get in. They don't have the high end. to compete in the playoffs. I don't. Wolfe has to win them the series. They don't have the players, I don't think,

that can elevate their game come playoff time to match the teams are going to be going up again. Their top two centers are 34 and 35. Next year, they'll be 35 and 36. The year after that, they're 36 and 37.

Like, this team will not be a legit contender until they find a stud center. That's young. Come on, Conroy, do your job. We've just figured. Our pants are falling off! That's right.

I just love how we got to a point where Pinder just was like, well, next year, they're going to be 35 and 36. And the year after they're going to be 36 and 37. Like, they have, they know, on centers, like, Zerry's been unreal that he could play center. They don't have centers in the organization. They don't.

Accurate though, Frank. Accurate and impressive. That's right. Appreciate you, pal. Have a good week. Go birds. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know what we did there. There's a lot of, you know what? Hey, circling around. But I, you know what we did? we did what a ton of people are talking about. Because you feel like, in a way, it's sexy.

Let's bottom out. I want a number one pick with top 10. Get all these picks. This Maclid Celebrini guy. Holy. Cale McCar, fourth? Oh, awesome. Yeah, you look at Colorado.

You're like, oh, McCar, top four pick. Rantinan, okay, that's top. There's no debate. McKinnan. That's where those guys get drafted. All those cup teams have a bunch of high picks. But I don't know what you do when you aren't that team that earned that pick. What do you do?

Colorado stunk to get McKinnon. They were really bad. And it worked. They won a cup. So what do you do if you're Craig Conroy and your team? We're not, we're not as bad as Colorado was there. Or as Chicago was when they got Kane or, or, I mean, whatever the year may be. If they come back next year, do you think, if we sit in the summer, like pretend the season ends today, do you think the supply-off team next year?

goal the bigger thing to me is and i'm not not wanting to answer your question wolf changes everything i think they're in the same goal tending hides so many warts you could be an awful team look at kipper which is kind of what i'm gonna kipper for years to me that's that that was this conversation was about does wolf change it and i think it does it doesn't it doesn't mean oh we're good now let's go let's go let's go get players no that's not it it's okay we're i guess we're not gonna bottom right out so now what now where do we go from here this is all we're all this circular conversation that's probably really annoying for some people is illustrating is that there is no simple clear path of this is easy and suddenly we're good. I know you're trying to say,

oh, you just give you a bad draft. You'll be good. No, like there is risk in all these paths. You can be old and not that good and have a great goal tender and finish ninth every year. Like, that's all that for a long time. And it feels like that's what you're going to get this year, doesn't it? Like if they finish ninth in the West, you'd be shot. I totally think that's what they're going get in the right my so my stupid what do you do yeah what do you bring everyone back to be like hey maybe next year we'll also finish knife but is the best path not doing anything and just like frank said because i i i keep going back to this comment too yes stupid we we had noodles on we need to go get a centerman and yeah easy to do their scoring's terrible if they'd have done it months ago but i guess

the question is do you go with write it out or do you put a plan? No, this is my hard and true. Yeah, like if you feel you're going to be mucky middle, do you languish or do you say, we may as well try and get in. Let's try and be a playoff team.

Or sell. If it doesn't mean go get the 31 year old UFC and give up a first rounder for it, but it just changes maybe your philosophy that you had coming into the season as to a five year plan, a three year plan.

If your fear is Mucky Middle, I don't know that this year has been easing your fears. No, and it doesn't ease my fears for next year because what's the team next year? Exactly. Exactly. Same effing thing. And that's why I think the Rasm's decision is so key. And it doesn't have to go one way or the other.

I'm not saying there's right and wrong. We don't know what the return would be. We don't know what a salary ask is. But this team's just good enough that you could for the next few years think, yeah, yeah, yeah. we'll spend an ad and we got all this cap space but that's who you got here right like you're going to Troy Brower and Travis Hamanick and James Neal yourself that's what we're saying is not the case no but that that that's what do you mean that's not the case like you're saying we got to be

careful that that that is your approach please don't make it your approach yeah and no one's saying that's the fear is that you have 20 million bucks cap space and you have this young goal it's like well shoot I mean maybe we could dip our toe and I'll just say this I have way way more Coney Fidence this time around that that's not going to happen. I have, I have conifference, but I'll tell you what, there's going to be a lot of temptation out there. Darcy Riggier was a GM in Buffalo forever.

No owner, no money, no nothing, ran it tight as tight can be, and had decent success because there was a, we have to operate. There's a path. Owner comes in, here's a checkbook, go make it happen. Complete shit show since. Yeah, what was it? Like, Ville Huso.

No, it was, sorry. The defenseman, Vili Huso. Billy. Not Housso. Lano. Lano. And then the eight-year deal for a D-Man. Yeah.

Like, it was. Airhoff. Airhoff. It was a team that knew when assets got to a certain point, we have to turn them into younger assets. And that was their philosophy on how they built. And it made sense. And when they had to abandon that,

they didn't know what to do. No. And that's to my point with, Conroy is he does he's he is a new gym he knows the game I trust all that shit but you got 20 million bucks in cap space you're looking at that going if I had a another 40 point guy we've got more points we are going to make the playoffs I didn't spend any of that money like there's going to be temptations there both ways you better have a real I hope he has a real clear idea of what he wants to do because going back and

with like we're doing, probably not. Like you're weighing all kinds of options, but I don't like the idea that our GM's doing that. And using the cap space is different than selling off picks for players. How do we weaponize? How do we best use this? If it gets us a decent player that doesn't, maybe he is older, but if it brings with it's still an asset,

but can help us that I think there is that kind of a kind of an opportunity. But like did Sabers fans have Connie Fiddins and Darcy rear gear? back then? No. When Pagula came in? Regerts for about it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, no regerts. You can't. No, there's no sense. They can't do it. They should be a bank at the deadline. Yeah.

Like, you know what Arizona did for like five years? It was, we'll take an expensive guy. We'll eat half. We'll move it along. Give us a pick. And again, I don't want to fall into the whole, like, prospect porn trap where all your young players are great. But like, Henry Mews and the third, you redraft. He's a first round player. Like, there's some great. great players that they, the draft class they just had is, has been received by people that are very smart on the draft as one of the best they've seen in ages. And so if you can just keep adding seconds and thirds, be a bank, use those first. You got Vegas is unprotected first. You could just as easily spin it and say, okay, we've got some prospects that we like, we can move forward.

And everybody's prospects in the, in eight months after the draft, everyone's still very high about them. I know what you're saying. It's too close to it still. This isn't Hanzik. Like this was a superb draft. But why isn't Hansik part of that, their draft? Like, they picked Hansa. They did? You don't get to,

you don't get to shuffle that pick away and say that's not part of what he's done. He's probably their fifth or sixth best prospect right now. But why is that okay? Like you're saying on one hand, they do the best job ever. No, but on the other hand, right?

Like, it's an averaged out thing. Like you can't. hand pick that seventh round pick that turned into a superstar go, these guys are good at drafted. Maybe there was a deal three years ago that would have included that pick that would have made you better today

with a player. Right? Like an Ikel or something? Sure. Yeah. Oh yeah. So. No, and again, it was this, it was Connie's first draft. I look at Trillivings first draft and it had Brianberg's fingerprints all over it. It was the Hunter Smith and big huge dudes. It was not really, I think what I'm hopeful is that Connie's built the scouted

department that he wants in his vision rather than show up to the draft how many months into the job and working off lists that the other GM assembled that staff. Well, I'll ask you. Do you have Connie for this in? I do. I think he will be very patient

and I think he's not falling for the the fool's gold of like if you give this team average goal to any where are they in the standings that's what I keep asking myself I think they're right where we thought they'd be so don't trick yourself into thinking that you've got this great team so much as you have an elite goalie and a hard working competent team that's well coached and has structure but you're no closer to contention than you were a year ago but like you're just you're just you've gone from bottom 10 to middle 10 and that's almost a worst spot to be in a weird way.

I know you want it. I know you want it badly to work that to work out. No, look, I don't, I don't want anything. I'm just thinking like, I hope this organization has, we've watched for 25 years and there's been too much mucky middle. I don't want to see more of that. If, well, here's the thing, truthfully, though, I mean, if you want to get really bad and you want to be ready, you should trade wolf. No. No, both you have for nine years. You don't trade Wolf at all. No.

What you should do is trade Rasmus because he turns 30 in the first month of his new deal. That's the trade you make. And you're not going to be out of the top 10 picks if you trade Rasmus. I don't. I think that's, my confidence is high if he chooses a path. And if he chooses a path to move Raspus Anderson,

then move them all. Yeah, I agree. It would be Codary and Coleman would follow up. no effing reason to trade Rasmus Anderson and not anyone else. Yeah, like you're stuck with you. It's not a movable contract because of the way it's structured. And that's not saying, Cadry Coleman.

But Cadry, it's like, okay, now you got to work on like, how much money do we get that out? Coleman's like, I got two years left. He's won cups. He's a very nice third line player. It would be a very, very significant direction chosen. And it's, I wonder if they're scared to make that decision. because you see the buffaloes and it isn't that easy

and there are failed rebuilds. And what about tickets? And what about... And they're going to have a sense of what this team is all about and how they get along. We talk about the dysfunction of the Canucks and why they're not having success. Part of the reason the flames have to be having success

is that, to be, anyway, feels like they do like playing together. And there's no free agents this here. Like, I'm sorry. They've got rid of the guys that want out. Yeah. The whole room. is it like next year when rasmus is in his walk year i don't know have they got him signed by then

is he is he a free agent november like that'll affect the room just like it affected lindholm and hanafin and tannive zedorov like it's it's a little quiet spot here but they're really not they haven't accomplished a ton you just it's it's amazing that what you hoped wolf could be it looks like he's going to become we'll move on um because i feel like we'll be talking about rasmus for a long time. I agree. But that is one where I still don't know where I get it. You should be able to move him and get something great, but what if you don't? Does that

then you don't do the deal? Then you don't do it. So then if you don't do the deal, are you talking about signing them? So you maybe are. I don't really worry about the market being. But you're not going to let him go to UFA. Can't. So you did. Can't. What are you going to do? And so another year from now you're going to know your team better too and some of the kids that come along. So maybe what's the number?

And then the other thing is, is like all their demon that you like that have some ceiling are righties. It's Brestevich, it's Perik, it's Mews, they're all righties. And they're all so unproven and young. No, I know. But some of them will be really good players.

They won't be all righties. It's wild. And that's not the other world. Like, weir plays the left side. I get it. 4.03-219.40100. Crystal clear, Gallagery.com. There you go.

There was a lot of, like, really sportsy stuff there. And I don't know that we're any further along. No, I don't think we've called this thing. It's just a conversation. Great. I would be willing to bet that there's some, again, La Conroy, the inner workings. They have maybe less heated, but similar. I don't even know it was heated.

It's just like, it's an interesting spot there in, isn't it? Well, because you can make an argument for. And they don't have anyone that's expiring this year of note. Like, Kuzmenko could have been a thing. He hasn't been. You know, the one thing. that they do have is picks coming up.

They've made some moves. They have an abundance of picks. They have caps. They're not in a horrible spot. It's just maybe not the... Four of Lidar and Kuzniko off the books. You're looking at probably closer to 30, $35 million.

Cap goes up. Expensive guys leave. Pina report? You ready? Yeah, I'm in. I've talked a lot already. I don't know about this. The poor guy.

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It's a pike bomb. Pike bomb, baby. Pike bomb, baby. Pike bomb. Pike bomb. Pike bomb. It's a pike bomb. Get ready for a big pike bomb.

What you've seen is a very good rookie, start looking like a great rookie over the last month or so. Like mid-December is where Pikes got it. Last 15 games, 928, 208, 8-2-1. Those are a lot of numbers. They're all good. They're all very, very good. Meanwhile, Dan Valladar, you haven't won since a long time.

Is it still a pike bomb when it's not like, breaking news. It's just kind of his statistical. It's like just analysis of. Could he used a half bomb there. It's kind of like a just the pike grenade. Yeah. What's that? Pike Bob. Okay. Like the whole song.

Ryan, back to you. Thank you, Dean. What else do we got going on on the old why is Pike got to make fun of? Oh, look at this. Oh, my goodness gracious. Don't do it. I disagree.

So, that's bad. That's Riley. I guess we should tell for people that are just listening. Why the Flames should claim Derek Ryan offensive. I will say this. I do believe he can do better than what Kevin Rooney's given you for the last month and a half, which has been trash. So he's better than trash.

Also doesn't mean that he's a good player. Nope. No boy, no. Rick Harris is right there, boys. He plays center. He's right there. Sorry, Riley. Irish Fox.

Go! He was. Take the. Shubbing. you ever wonder what the hierarchy of Conners is in the NHL? A lot, yeah.

Me too. Guys that are named call here's the thing. Rather than losing sleepover, Dean, I want you to read this article. Okay. Ranking where Conner Zeri ranks among the NHL's many Conners. Hmm.

Maybe you got David, Bedard, Hella, Buck. There's a lot of good Conners, eh? Hmm. Hey? Yep. So that article's on the website? Yeah. Flamesation.com.

Yeah. Well, I know what I'm doing. Because I remember you read the first record. They're shuffled. Yeah. It's a lot. Let's look at the standings in the west. Cogger Flames hold down the second wild card.

A one point edge over the Vancouver connects both teams. How many games left for it? Do the math. 35. Oh, 37. Oh. Grit nailed it there. Good math, but probably.

One point. One point. And apparently a J.T. Miller deal fell through on the weekend. I don't know how firm that is versus rumors. We didn't even ask. It's coming to a head there. If we could have a Frank bomb. Yeah.

We got to have that stuff. Can you imagine if they use some of that $20 million in cap space? Oh, no, this is great. The owner gets to save some money. That's what everyone's cheering for, right? Layoffs. Save yourself 20 mil, bud. Schedule looks like this.

What do we got? What do we got? We talked about the big road swing. They're almost done it. In fact, they're opening a large stretch of home games. They will play seven of eight at home once they get back from Winnipeg, where they just were, but they're home from and they're going to hit it right back there.

One game homestand, two game road trip, home for six to seven. Okay. And now Ovi will be chasing Wayne when he comes through town. That'll be a fun one. Take your kids to see Ovi. Go see Ovi. Go see him. It's not going to be here forever.

He'd go see you. Go to warm up. Watch him, fucks sure yeah have you guys heard about this dirty dirty scumbag Connor McDavid because we showed a highlight last one he's on that list of

Conners yeah he is I know that yeah the greasiest one after that elbow last week two Conners there look at this he's dry up and Garland don't let your kids watch this gives him a punch in the back of the head it's like hey let go meet you and then it's like you know what I'm kind of fed up with this bong oh that's a cross-check to the face right

Garland should have sold it more down. The beautiful thing about this is that later in the same sequence, late in this game on Saturday, Tyler Myers did essentially the same thing, which is brilliant, because now we get to say, hey, NHL, same scenario,

same crime, your move. Yeah, like, just seconds later. Yeah, like, tell us what the suspensions are, because the... You got a dart in your neck. Maybe that's... What was you said? Yeah. It's got a fucking dart in his neck. Yeah.

It's awesome. Awesome. thoughts, suspensions? I would think he kind of have to. I'll say this though. I don't like if I'm the Oilers. I don't like not having McDavid, but I'm all right with it. Yeah, sure.

That guy's going to be laying all up. Go ahead, stick them in the teeth. They're tied for first in the Pacific, and nothing in the regular season matters for the Oilers. It's another cup or bust year. Last year, remember, they busted. Connor Garland. They went away from Cup, but that's

them's the rules. It's a cup or bust. It's a bust if you don't want the Cup. So they busted last year. We'll see. Turtleneck. That'd be a good shirt for them. Like cupper, C-U-P-P-E-R, bust, cup or bust. Would it?

Yep. I'm going to bring it up this weekend. You can get that made. Yeah. Do you think they'll like that? No. I don't think so. Jack's boy, Alex Delkevich.

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Neddle. Nedla. Jesus, Jack. Nettle. Nettle. Spelling's atrocious. It's quite- Yes.

Let's get to the club. Crazy. Back to you, Jack. As it slowed down? And the savers play it back down to the pendulum zone. Nadelcovich is going to go for the empty net. He's got a chance. Alex Nalkevich!

Starr! You're going to say, I have no reason to think that Buffalo doesn't lead the league and goal he goals against. It just feels like something they'd have. I would believe it. I told me that was a case. Yeah. So first goalie in NHL history with a goal and an assistant.

Are we playing this because you're a Pittsburgh fan? It's a goalie goal, right? This is history. You just watch history. Yeah. Lock with me. And number 67 there, Ryan. Sad to have missed it.

Ricky Racks. That's right. Jack's boy, he's very hot and heavy on Ricky Rax right now. Watch Crosby here. This is awesome. He's a hit the middle of the ice. Yeah. gives him the clapping

mero chitan give to look like mirror come on mero mero juries go tonight's slate happy for you jack congrats on that awesome glad that that guy's to you and uh old indy happy for you yeah

it's already a game underway fellas is martin luther king day it is happy MLK day to everyone burns and chocks wall be wooten hard that one's on right now that's right all to be wooded hard is tough to watch. Some good ones.

Are we happy to watch the Bruins? Yeah, I kind of like that. And I like Ottawa pressing and I like Detroit getting their shit together. Austin can go say this. You know what? I don't like Marchand and pass to take it in the teeth. Marchand's up at the end of the year.

That's a team thing. And I would think not watching a ton of Bruins games start to finish. But I would think if there might be some guys that could be clear of some taking some shit and abuse, it might be those guys. Marshan, remember that.

deal was going to get done in the fall still not done ufa this summer elliot idiot idiot not an idiot but uh the bruns might be if they let that guy out yeah or maybe they're smart maybe got a lot of coies getting home maybe hey lintholm come here for eight get out of here marcia uh goalie fight let's go we're not just showing this because it's it's the penguins because it isn't the penguins we're just showing you cool shit that'll this is from uc hl a lot of It's where it's not a lot of lands. Oh, he's a bit. Yeah.

A ball to that belly there with the wind. It's right there. Is it right. Hey? And I'll accept it. It's not great, but it's a goalie fight. It's a scrapping. Sounds better than none.

Playing with meaning. Let's go to the NFL. What do we got, Jack? We are down to the final four. Oh, baby. Look at it. There's the bracket. Bill's Chiefs, Commanders, Eagles.

Pretty, pretty good. I don't think there's enough love for this Washington team. It's interesting. Let's go to the lines. We'll see exactly how much love everyone's getting. Commanders plus five and a half. Bills plus two. Again, it's been bouncing around between one and a half and two.

I want two. Yeah, go get two. Might be gone by now, but two feels like a lot. They beat KC this year. It is in KC. KC has not really been that over. overwhelming. Even the Houston game, it's like, yeah, they won, but you know what they're good at? Checo is not really letting their opponents blow themselves up. Totally. A hundred percent.

The game plan, they scheme. They're not dominant. They win. It's like we're going to, we can't let them have the ball. We got to field goals aren't going to cut it. We got to do something. It's Mahomes. It's Kelsey. And then they step on their sack. It's okay. So you can win again. Yeah, it's a lot. Uh, there it is, Rhett. Please. Please. Jack, did you get the script from Goodell? What's happening here? The refs will be heavily involved. Oh, good. But the bills will win. Oh, wow. What a script.

Thanks, Roger. What about that? It's happened you build a stadium, the commission. He's learning from. Who would you rather play? Was he learning from Vince? Maybe. I like this question.

Who would you rather play? The Eagles or the commanders? Don't answer it. Is that a jinx? Jinks. Jinks. Don't say it. He's walking right into the bear trap.

You're just going to be happy to be there. Don't step on that. You need to play well. You got to worry about yourself, Jack. That's right. I've been through the ringer before. Good for you. Can't be worrying about the other team.

We've got to make the other team come play our game. That's right. You got to A.J. Brown's reading that book. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I got a new book this week. Did he? Yeah. It's called How to Catch.

Didn't you have like one? He's not done it. One target? Like it was. Yeah, they got like seven years and a lot. That boy still suck, hey? Why? They fired that coach.

No, no, it's Jerry. Jerry. That's why. Look, here it is. Yeah, they now have the longest drought from an NFC championship game since the Washington's got in. Because that was 92. Oof. Really? For Washington. Washington back to 1992. Speaking of which, that Jane Daniels fellow looks pretty darn good at football. Yeah.

Because he is. And he's doing things that you don't really do as a rookie. Usually you suck as a rookie. Okay, here it is. In the history of the common draft since 1967, 59 quarterbacks have been taken in the top four. Daniels is the... 59.

Shit. Chaden. 55! upset. Jayden Daniels will be the first to start a championship game. Injuries? Some other guys have injuries.

First. Oh. Top four picks. Yeah, why would you want to pick high? Sorry. I can show you enough. Because he's the sixth rookie to start a conference championship game. I guess it wasn't top four picks.

You lower down the draft. Yes. You're a big meal prepper at your house, aren't you? Prepper? You prepped the meals. Pooper. Meal prep. Meal poop?

Yeah. Meal poop in that order. All right. This is your sign to start meal prepping your milk and cookies. It's super convenient and saves lots of time. Enjoy. This is great. What?

Like, that is the lowest of the lowest humor you could find. I mean, he's dying. Jack loves it. Look at him. Jack loves it. It's a close up of a. It's the new thing. It's now milk.

It's a milk run. It's a milk run. We're on a milk run. We're dying. We're on a milk run. A year ago, it was kangaroos fighting guys in hand-to-hand combat. It's funny. You bring that up today.

Now. It's dairy. Well, you know what it is. It's very valuable. Liquid acids. I tell you, there's never been a better example. Rest assured, internet, the algorithm. It works.

It does work. Because Ryan played one video with milk in it, and we've seen 8, 10, 12 milk videos in the last week. You were away. Are they? I don't know what's happening. Are you guys on edible? Mushrooms in here? What do we?

is happening you two that is i'm sorry not funny and jack is howling remember when he would now he's on board yeah before it be like well it's the i don't it's the pinder report i have no control i'm totally on board with this yeah it'll die out it'll peter out right now we are right in the meat of the milkground can't believe you're not doing this at home it's your your social media content creation uh you ever try to catch like the best bell Hit me 15 throws. No cuts, no edits. Five grapes, baby.

Good throws, son. Ovas. Here we go. No. Voight. Three. There she is. Number four on the move.

Can we go five for five with the grapes? Yes, we can. Marshfellow time. Oh, wow. It's kind of hard from the wind of the winter. Over my head. We missed one. Here's another one.

Another. See what's going on. Jayden Daniels. things? Oh. See what's going about? That's

Bush. Boy, hit me with the oranges. Hope it's a cinderball. He's going to feel great. Mote. It's pieces of orange. The juice is loose.

That's a drop. Here we go. That sound is... One last one. What? Those whole? Not too shabby. Ow.

Don't ask why. We'll keep moving. What did you say a year ago we were doing all the Penderport all time? Guys fighting kangers? I'm not playing. Why?

You play what? I just asked you. Yeah, it was hand-to-hand combat. All right. Of course. This is the same one. This is like five years old. You're the right.

It's so good. Is there no statute of limitations? Come on. Get over here. Copper. Let's go. I don't know. I wasn't sure if we'd seen it before.

There's been so many. Quality. It's so old. It's really. Come on. Okay. Well, this is. For sure. You're a big food prep guy. This is nothing to with milk.

Now, everyone's got these like tips and tricks and little hacks, life hacks. You like life hacks, right, Jack? Here's a way. This is a great life hack here. Let's go. There's a toilet seat. That's kind of odd. drilling holes. And he's got elastic. One side. Pull across. After I complete this last step.

I'll show you how to use this. Just put the elastics on the toilet seat. So instead of going this way, we're not going to go the long way. So we'll start with- You're getting a grid, Steve. What are we going to? Give you guys a better view. Thanks.

Let me stretch it all. It's a lot there, yeah. So I'm going to set the camera back up. Take this homemade pasta. We're going to take it and pour it right into the toilet. Notice how it collects all the pasta perfectly. Take this lid. You're going to bring it down and give it a good push.

You can pick it up. Bring it right to the kitchen. Then you have company over. It's our homemade pasta. Please enjoy. It's a long weekend for the last I think. This clip is called Rest in Peace Boomer. This is a Texas Brisket.

But that man is, uh... It's not his knee or lightning is... He's, uh, he's gonna... Suvique? He's suvying in his bathtub, Brett. It's, uh, like the thermometer, Dean? In the hotel. Why not? They're so plain.

Looks like it's almost done. The old bathtub brisked. That's a song. Yeah, probably, yeah. Oh, it's sink looks really. I'm sorry, dude. Anyway, good to see you still doing me. What a weekend.

Yeah, busy guy. What a weekend for you, boom. What a show. We had about 40 minutes of heated, hardcore sports talk, followed up by Milk Drurs. Spaghetti Toilet, bathtub brisket milk drawers it's a dumb show and we do it every day that's your pender report the 2025 Honda Civic Hybrid named winner of the North American car of the year for a record setting fourth time

makes you want to drive it doesn't it sure does do you can do it yeah let's get up there village Honda Northwest autumn all your dealership for life take one out for a rip that's what you would do Were you classy when you won or were you yourself? The kids won. I didn't win. Yeah, but you feel very important. I mean,

I look at this. Hey, fellas, well done. Great team. Special kids. Oh, yeah, they're so special.

They really are. Fucking spoiled rotten pricks. Oh, all Glen Lake Final. Rett's just dying. Yeah. So it's tier one south? You're in the south.

That's great. So not really city. Cities is later. So is north and south. Congrats to the fellas. Yes, so? A lot of fun. Yeah, way to go, Glenn Lake.

Yep. And Coonses' team. Really? Proud of you. Kenny. Tough news was confirmed earlier today. This weekend we're going to the Jasper Pond Hockey Tournament. And Jay Rose Hill was here.

Jersey. You missed him. He was right. Really? Well, I was a bit late. I was almost. He grabbed some gear and that he's not going to be attending the Jasper Pondon. Well, he's had enough of Pinder.

I think what I've learned is that he's pendered out. Frank Saravalli also not attending. Noticing a theme. Jasper. Yeah. People that haven't met me before, they are coming, but it'll be their last.

It will be their last. I hope they enjoy their own and only time. Johnny Lazarus, whoever you are, welcome in, buddy. Yeah. See you never.

Frank's got the Eagles game to. It's true. Yeah. He's already got Super Bowl tickets. Wow. You should go with Frank. I don't think Frank. I don't take.

I need the room. Whiskey, but we'd probably What do they say in Shorzie? Hold to pole or hold a hole? You don't go pole to hole. So we're heading to Jasper without when you're sharing a bed, eh?

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You like finding things that think are deals. That's a good price for ramps. I'd definitely not use those for it. Yeah. If I could get those ramps for that price, I'd buy them. I can't afford not to. Store them myself.

I don't use the ramps. I don't have ramps anymore. Exactly the point. I have a heavy duty. As we were saying. No, I upgrade. I have a heavy duty floor jack and jack stands. Even better.

How do you get your differential oil changed, your fluid and your, I go to Village Honda. Village Honda. Trust the professionals. What do you do when it's time to put on summer tires? You don't have a heavy duty floor jack and jacks dance to? Not in my little. a one car garage that doesn't have room for it.

Yeah, that's what you've got is the one. Right. So my daughter is in the ringet golden ring this weekend. So is that the big thing compared to the, like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it have just in one weekend.

It's a got three, four day tournament kind of thing. Anyway, I'm at, uh, wind sport. It's a nice thing about ring it is you get to see the whole city. Don Hartman, win sport. Do it all. Great planes. You get to see it all. Um,

this rank. there's a couple of you got the three sheets somehow the girls were on the big ice and then on the two small on the two other rings there there's some serious hockey going on here really big like strong this is men out there so i'm just kind of watching along the class i don't know what that i don't know what they used to be don't know what that team is and then this defenseman comes like right towards like right i'm saying just to the left of the of the goal right if you're on guy's D-Man comes swinging behind the net grabs the puck guy in hot pursuit Warner on his back Warner Come on. Yep. You said you don't play anymore.

Some impostors? That's this kid. Somebody. Oh, wow. I saw the boy. What a treat for you. Large human. He's a big kid. Yeah.

Big than dad already. It has been for a while. I heard. What are we six three? Yeah, maybe a little. How'd you do? Who are you playing? C-I-H-A, the team that lost in the final.

Oh, the circle. Yeah. Chaha. Cha. Yeah, got it, got it. Yeah. Can't score. Nobody passes the puck.

Your kid's fault. He's D-Man. It's not his fault. His job to score. Just ask him. Yeah, perfect. Did my job. I had mine.

Yeah. So I figured I Okay, this this Warner kid's pretty good Just to see what the response would be Fucking soft Yeah, Mike Yeah

He likes to throw He's a great pitcher Loves the no hitter Yeah Oh You gotta love that though That's like that's high caliber Kid hockey your kids

It's fun hockey to watch for sure I just know what it's We all know as parents When your kids are playing hockey And at that let that's You look forward to those games That's awesome I just think how much fun.

We just went to full ice this year. That's just like, here we are. Offside change on the fly. Oh, baby. Here we go. That's right. Yeah. Yeah.

Hockey. Yeah. Oh, good luck this weekend with whatever. Thanks. Yeah. And I guess to you too. Congrats or whatever. Thank you.

Yeah. Way to go. Happy for you. Real happy. Is there any animosity amongst the mumsies and dadsies? No. The other team pulled their goalie, which was interesting in you, 11.

I did not see that coming. why wouldn't if you were down because they're nine and ten they're not 15 but yeah I don't know I hadn't thought about before I was just like that's the first time I've seen a goalie pulled in your loan interesting you playing real hockey champion yeah posting in on his phone okay uh changed their goalie like pulled or pulled their goalie at the end of the game oh I sorry I thought they were down by goal so they didn't get an extra attacker they no oh sorry yeah no they got the hook nine minutes in oh yeah so minor hockey week final like that poor kid got yeah yeah it stinks yeah but I'm in later but

coach we got a super chat we got to do we got some bet 365 let's do it what do you want to do jack whichever you want to do let's do her bet I got old chuckles McGee over here you've had a hell of a day just kind of was a good day did you rest up this weekend or you just carry on like a clown. A bit of both. It doesn't make you bad. Doesn't make you bad. All right, let's do the Bet365.

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There are nine games. tonight. Look at the blue jackets. His dogs against the Islanders. They're rolling. And the over parlay for plus 1.3.349. That's crazy. Joker against Alcaraz. If you like tennis, these are two

of the best on earth, head to head. I've lost my wife for three weeks. It's another major. She'll be. I thought he quit. No, there's no quitters. She going to Paris? Oh, maybe he quit on, he was pissed off about some hecklinger, wasn't he?

stay tuned tonight for the latest i think i'm joking i'm serious no i think there's the he's walked out on jimmy conners it's like screw you conners oh boy gonna do no interview on this court after being heckled that's your picks today you got picks too go every day you can make picks i'm sending it doesn't right now it is the college football championship It is the college football championship. Ohio State National.

Notre Dame, the Ohio State wall eyes. Yep. Sure. Eight and a half point favorites over the Notre Dame. I'm going to take those points. Golden Bear. Eight and a half is a lot.

Notre Dame's been good. Ohio State has cruised playoffs a little bit, but I think they were only ranked eighth coming into the playoffs. So they're beatable. There's a lot of love for them, though. There's a lot of points. A lot of love.

Anyway, I'm going with Notre Day. ND. Rudy. Not North Dakota. Right. Not Nordaq. Yeah. I have a football team.

Too cold. It's just that easy. See what in the little bit. Oh, Red says goes to his app. Boop. Now you got a little action on the big football game today. And tonight's going to be one hell of a game. Usually these check.

These football. Yes. And my kid. Wanted to stab me yesterday. What? Because. I didn't let him have popcorn on national popcorn.

You didn't let him. What? The hell's going on? He was being a bit of Richard. Tom and Jerry and waiting until the clock had passed midnight

and it was time to be tucked in. And he pulls out the popcorn. I'm like, no. You've been sitting here for two hours. You had plenty of time to make this. would have never said no to you, but no, not as you're headed up to bed.

Sorry, bud. My kid likes doing the, he'll pull out the hot air popper. Yeah. Just as I'm finishing meal prep for dinner. Like I'll just be kind of stirring something. Almost get this done. Set the table.

What are you doing? There's popcorn. Anything happening here? Set the table. More set the table, less popping corn. It's dinner time. Jesus.

Can I have something to eat? Yeah, dinner in two minutes. D-U-M. We should have experts come on. Tell us that we're not crazy people. It's so bad. I don't want the truth. I can't handle it.

Wouldn't be able to handle it. So that's your bet 365. But we told you right off the start. You know, you guys, what are you get? What are we going to do? What are we going to do? I don't know. Super chat.

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to gel together in a way that the 04 room did too. Did we catch lightning in a bucket again? I don't know what to think about this squad. Who's there, Iggy? That's kind of where it falls a little. Rest, I agree.

Iggy wasn't that great in that, Ron. No. He had some off games. There was any sort of shifts that you... They may not have a ginnla necessarily, but... Lots of guys can replicate what he did. Yeah.

I'm sure. We've got plenty of conroyce. Maybe too many. You got a few yells. Maybe too many. So thank you. Had some dad. It's 100 bucks for the youth centers of Calgary.

They appreciate it. We appreciate it. Yeah. Kids. Frank just told Pender they should go get it. They get Lund and Pender said he's an idiot. It's an interesting summary of the show. I agree with it.

That's how it went down. That's a summary, yeah, for sure. Tomorrow is not a game day. What? But we'll come in. We'll do a show. Should we? Don't make me late.

I got things to get to. I know. I know. No idea when they start or where to be. Wouldn't do it to you. Let me know. Yep, wouldn't do it to you. Have a,

have a fine rest of your day. Everyone, we sure appreciate you being a part of the program. Right. Lots of Jack laughs today. Oh, heavy laughter. Yeah, we'll stick with the milk until that falls flat. Bad choice. See you, buddy.

Peace.