Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Nazem Kadri TRADE BUZZ Is Getting Serious… 🔥 | BB Clips

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

Boomer, Pinder, and Rhett dive into the future of Nazem Kadri and what a potential trade could mean for the Calgary Flames after NHL Insider Darren Dreger hinted that Kadri may be open to a move. The guys discuss what kind of return the Flames could expect, which teams could emerge as serious suitors, and when a deal might realistically happen. With Calgary continuing to shape its direction, this conversation explores the impact of moving a veteran leader like Kadri and what it would signal for the organization’s future.Youtube Link: https://youtu.be/UohhmfTyT1o#nhl #nhlshorts #nhlplayoffs #nhlpredictions #nhlhockey #nhlpicks #stanleycup #stanleycupfinal #calgaryflames #calgary CHECK OUT OUR STUFF ⬇️BARN BURNER MERCHhttps://nationgear.ca/collections/shirts/FlamesnationBARN BURNER SHORTS https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLj_bcGtvvo-cW2DHEDZ6dEO5ePDmlhZc9&si=jo8iNGxT4ImhS2Y8📲 Follow us:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/fnbarnburner/X (Twitter): https://x.com/barnburnerfn?lang=en🎧 Listen on:Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/be/podcast/barn-burner-boomer-pinder-with-rhett-warrener/id1648562889Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3Mc6Qd5U22R2zbMlQ7RxIiProducer: Jack Haverstock Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Friday we had our TSN Hockey Insider, Darren, joined us. And now it was a different, you know, we didn't do a regular slot show. It was a little bit earlier. We streamed it, so maybe you missed it. But we did have Dregs on and the topic made its way to Nassum-Caudry as we had towards the trade deadline.

But I do think that the appetite for change is increasing with Naz. That's not to say that he wants out, but I think that I know there are offers that are available to the Calgary claims that are viewed as. as being good offers, offers that would make the flames better. But in defense of Craig Conray as general manager, here's why I think he takes a little bit more time before pulling the trigger. People around Cogry might go, okay, well, those seem like good offers. The interest seems pretty high.

But you've got Vinnie Trocheck, who we know is available, and the possibility of Ryan O'Reilly coming into play. We've speculated on Orion O'Reilly for several weeks, but that doesn't mean that he was or is a true trade target, right? Nashville has Terminat, you know, in concert with O'Reilly. So that's what teams are waiting for. So even though the offers are good, if you're Craig Conroy and teams are swirling around those two guys, maybe in conjunction with Cadre or slightly ahead of Nas for whatever reason,

I don't know. Why wouldn't you wait? I mean, if O'Reilly isn't available, well, Nazab Cadre's expected return probably goes up and the willing is to accept that price probably goes up. So there could be more of a waiting game, but I do. get the sense that it's going to happen. So there you go. NAS.

The appetite for NAS to leave or to move on seems to be there. Is the trade deadline open again? Like, or the trade deadline? It is. The freeze is off. The freeze get lifted. Yeah. As of last night.

Okay. So the trades can be announced or can be completed starting now. And March 6, I believe is our deadline. Yep. Which is not. it's not far away. Next week is the second. It is too sweet as, uh, as the bad bunny would say.

As the bad bunny would say. Um, this is starting, all the boxes are kind of starting to get checked to say, well, the flame's going to want to move them. Well, what does Naz, what does Nazim want? Well, no what Nazim wants. And the offers are there. The offers seem to be palatable. What, from what Dreg says, um, I guess depending as the host, I'm trying to,

to build something well i i thought it's interesting that he said why wouldn't you wait my thoughts are because i don't want to be sitting on my hands i brought this up to the day where it's like hold the bag if it's a decent offer i've said it a million times hence i just gets a little stale i i'm not looking for a home run just get the deal done give me your own pick get way higher I want to build. I'm going to make room for kids to come in and play. Find out if they can play center. I don't need more points this year.

NAS might actually cost me even if it's four. Even if you know what I mean? It's a tie game and there's a list of players who can win that game for you. Nazam's on that list. You get rid of you're doing this in the standings, right? And you get to find out. So my take would be on the other side of it. I get why he's, well, Drake's

saying, why wouldn't you wait? For me, it's because I don't want. The challenge is, Riley and the other guys get traded, and then all of a sudden it's a worst deal. The problem is, this is all black box. We don't know what a good offer is. What does that mean when Drake says that? Does that mean you're getting a first?

I don't know. If that's the first, you better move off. I think you should be done. Yes. No, it's a second and a just okay process. Maybe if we hold out, it's a second and an April. I hear a second in. But if you're,

what is Craig's threshold where he's like, we do it, and what are the offers now and how big that gap is? We can only guess. We have no idea. Again, if it's minuscule, then I would say, let's get her going. But if there's a sizable gap between what he thinks he can get and what he's being offered, I understand the weight. We just don't know what those things are.

Again, just to guess, how much salary retention are we talking about? Is it zero? Is it 50? It's all part of the equation. I would think two million is the number that I think when you look at what he's offering you and how many terms left at his age, that's a palatable number. And it also doesn't hamstrung the team with a lot of money, like three and a half a year. I'd go.

And all of a sudden, that's over $10 million of your owner's money. I don't give it. Of course, the contract, right? Again, easy for me to say. I don't care how much you can retain all that you can get more. Yeah. If it means you're getting more. Yeah.

And we also don't know what, well, if I eat half, I'll give you a this or after you all. Like, we don't know. I think, I'm just happy. that this conversation is at this spot, because what you have been fearful of and what we've all been fearful of when we look at their history is don't give yourself the BS excuse

to get caught holding the bag on this player when you could have moved them for a return. And when you could have helped your own draft pick this year and when you could have turned over some more minutes to some younger players. There's just so many things that needed to align perfectly that it may not be, older player that needs to be playing well,

was playing better before Christmas, but still has shown that he has game left. Okay, well, that's good. while the player, it's not a full no trade, but he's willing to move. The team has to be willing to move off. That's happening. Would you have appetite from other teams?

Seems like it's there. Can you eat money? All of those things, which have been very cumbersome to this point, they're all lining up. They're all more or less kind of lined up. Yep. I am with you.

Do not let this. Don't fumble it. Yep. I wouldn't play him another minute. You'd think that Anderson, like, honestly, I understand the, oh, what's the rug? rush is deal with this shit that's the rush the only flying the ointment there is if the teams that want gnazum are just saying well i just have to get a firm word on player x first and then when those sweepstakes are done we'll circle back because we have seen that happen before where there's the first donno has to fall before okay well we didn't get player x now we want to talk to your camp which there kind of again it comes back to conroy do you say that's fine for you but for us we're keeping the player he's he's ready to move yeah we're ready to move we're ready to

to move him. We have offers. We're not playing him. You're not getting two weeks to figure other shit out. If this is your player, now is the time to make the decision. If not, that's fine. I'll hang up the phone and we both move on, but we're prepared to move this player in the next 48 hours. And they did that with Rasmus. Yeah. But the difference was Rasmus was the top right shot to be available. And you can do that. You just don't want to diminish your return a ton by doing that. We don't know. I think I would love to have this done today. Your return goes to shit if he's hurt. You do you and it's different because you're you're really kind of hoping for big return in Erasmus deal. Yes. With this you'd like a return but it's also about getting money off the books

and moving on an older like there's your own pick is the biggest asset you have in play here. Let's remind people of that. I don't understand what you keep saying that it's over my. So let's say the team's record would deteriorate. So let's say with Nossum the rest of the year, you finished fourth from the ball. Gotcha. Could you be a. top two pick, like, is that, if that's the difference in one of these top three megastuds? To me, it's more important to be in the bottom five. And if you, he can help you take you out of it, I think. I agree.

I don't know if losing him could drop you into the bottom two, but keeping him can definitely get you to seven or eight instead of four. Right. So another way to phrase it is, trading him solidifies the top five pick. That's, yeah. And that's what I mean when I say your own pick is one of the biggest assets you're getting into trade. Because you pick, you're just picking high. You're just ours. it's not like you have a 20-year-old

centerman lighting up the A that has been blocked by Nazim and he's going to come in and dominate. You're now going to start playing wingers and HLers at Center Ice. Which is fine because you don't have long-term centers. No, and that might allow you to draft a really good center in the next two years, being bad at center. It feels like it's hard to see it any other way. Right?

I feel like a lot of times we stay here and so, Why? What is the, if you have a counterpoint, if you have a trade that you're like, okay, that's good return. Then I. What's the cutoff? There is. Well, there is.

Well, so play it out since we have to have flames talk. Where's the cutoff? A fifth round pick? God, no. I think it's a second. I know what you want. Oh, no, I'm just guessing. I'm saying where don't you do the deal?

How low? Less than a second. Because when, when Dregor says there's a reasonable deals. are there, that's what I'm including some retention. To what's reasonable. I'm saying in absolute, if you're not, if Craig Conroy is going to get fired over this deal, what is he

getting in return that gets him fired or doesn't? What's the word? Like, you're right. If you walk out I got us a third or I got us a fourth, where is the no, you're right. I think because of his age, you can't really get fired over this deal, can you?

Not moving him is what's going to get you fired. Yes, that's what I'm getting at. I thought you were talking about like where do you pull the trigger like get the best value but you're like for this to be a failure other side of it where it's like why how is yeah like I think probably you're a little too far I don't know that I disagree with you but it's if they only knew how little I'd take just take you but but that's but yeah because the other side of it is effort he's under contract and he can play and it's fine we're not in a rush to make the playoffs next year we're going to be same position for you. If it was for nothing could you futures? Not yeah just

but you they had to take the whole salary. Is that still a win on the deal for Craig? Because I kind of think it is like putting them on waivers well right that's my and that's where we're I mean we're being a bit cheeky because this guy can how do you have 30 goals

plus last year? Like oh right and I do believe at the same time would be a great asset to whoever gets. And do believe they're going to get a good return on it. But to Rett's point, it's going to be hard to lose this deal, given that you're a team that needs to rebuild, and he's going to be 38 when his contracts out.

What point do you not care about getting something in return? Fifth rounder. Whatever. And you might as well just keep him. So just for the sake of the debate, or the discussion, I guess. Not to refer, we need more cadres, not to bring that back. But he's a veteran

guy who gives a shit. Oh, for sure. And you need, in a younger room, you need those guys. The question is how many? Because that would be part of it is we'd hate to lose Nas, the guy in the room. This is, and this might be with the debate down at the dome, in all honesty. To me, you've got plenty of veteran guys. You brought back back, he ain't going anywhere.

That's great. Coleman's awesome Uyghurs here. If you're not trading cadre, you're trading Coleman. because your return might be better. And if you feel that it's important to keep something, then fine. Keep cadre and pay him and let them play and let him be a positive role model. Trade Coleman then.

Because what the conversation is different if they trade Coleman, isn't it? What do we? We wouldn't just dump Coleman. No, God. Why? No. Right. Now, maybe we're idiotic in thinking then what?

So you're just going to dump caught? You know what I mean? Like you can have that debate down there to go, well, if we're just getting rid of a player, which is ridiculous, and they won't just get rid of a player because I think Codry is valuable. But if that's where we are and we're saying, well, I can trade Codry for a, again, I'm just saying it, a fifth. Or I can trade Coleman for a first. Sorry, Blake. And I don't want to do both. I don't want to do both.

These are the paths I can go down. I'm trading Coleman. The other piece of it is, you. you've got one retention slot left and both of these deals, I think other teams would want retention. Not as necessary with Coleman because it's only one year and he's making 4.9, but in a perfect world of asset management, you move cadre now with some money retained and you get a good return

because there's lots of interest and you're not worried about holding the bag if he doesn't look himself when he's 36 next year. And then next year, in the final year, Blake Coleman, you have two retention slots open. You can do it again on a guy with expiring contract, eat half and send them a contender for two point something million. Like you can really kill on these two deals when you look at the big pitch.