Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - NEW COACH BUMP 🔥 | FN Barn Burner - January 13th, 2026

Episode Date: January 13, 2026

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Here we go. Set it. Got to set the tone. Who's going to set the tone? I was setting the tone. I was setting the tone in the Safeway parking lot with my loud snoring. Oh, really? Catnap. Yeah, I was a couple minutes early. I'll just kind of listen to the radio here. There is nothing that I can get behind more than like a 10 to 15 to 20 minute nap. No more. Just a little. I like the fan in the vehicle. Oh, you look the air on the face. I don't even on my face. It's the noise.

I like this is white noise. I had a friend of mine. He was a roommate. And he used to do, it's not beef. But he lived with beef and I. He was a radio sales guy. And depending on the day, if it was, if the temperatures was just kind of a little too cold, that his motivation was just a little too low,

he would come home and he'd curl up on the bathroom floor and take a hair dryer, I just set it on the ground, I just kind of let it blow. That's fucking fire out. That guy doesn't sound like a... That's not a go-getter.

I couldn't get a lot done. It was surprising. It was all in, it was all gas or all brakes. Yeah. Well, he'd least seen it when they hit the pedals. An incredible snorer, Harry. He could use some outdoor dental.

We would take our, we would call his, his cell phone or we would call his phone and leave a message as he was snoring on the couch. Like, hey, dude, it's like 738. You are, you're passed out on the couch right now. Like, listen. You should probably get up. And you hold the phone. It's like, like, he had a bad, like bad. It's like, oh, no, you're still alive.

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to lie in the bathroom floor and fire the hairdry on? None that I know. They work the tails off and they go to Maui for a week. Yeah, they know what they do. They have a nap in a hammock. Yeah, on the vacation. Kona. Alcohol in coconut, drink, straw.

Coconut. Add an umbrella if you need to, whatever, do you think? We won another one. We've been incredibly successful for our clients. A little me time, a little decompression time. That's what I need. I need to decompress. I do feel bad for the folks of Cloud Law.

You know, really? Oh, really? What's going on? I'm sure there's some Steelers fans there. How do you know there's not a Houston Texan fans there? Nobody cheers for Texas. Yeah, that's probably true. It's tough getting a Jersey.

Tough to find a jersey. Really tough. Yeah, I had to really put the tentacles out to source of that one. I almost need to do they deal with getting run off the road? Oh, dear. Sure. That's, wow. That interchange and all the.

There's a lot of construction. I noticed from a boat, Glenmore to the end of the city is under construction there. It used to be the north half now that the summer. It goes north to a little bit. Because it used to be from basically Memorial to the airport, but that's done. I think this summer it was the whole thing. Pretty much from my house to the, yeah. It was from my house to wherever I needed to go.

Yeah. Yeah. To the point where you took another rope. We're doing Stony. I don't care about it in the lap of the city. There's something. Just get it done faster than Mardolook and I'll be okay with it. Much needed.

Much needed. The Deerfoot 500 is a very important fair affair. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. It is that day. One of our friends is hurting. I'm sorry, buddy. Have it over.

Jack? Did what we could. Try it. Tough, uh, tough night here at the, uh, tough night here at the, uh, Lute Studios last night. We gathered to support our friend Jack as the Pittsburgh Steelers

after last week's thrilling victory. Absolutely. Snatching victory from the Joe's defeat. Thank you, Tyler, Luke. My leg is recovered, but not completely from that night. But Jack's heart forever scarred.

Where's the Texans? I, it felt like you fear the Ravens almost more than you fear the Texans. You get into the game with a C.J. Stroud, like happy feet turnovers. Peas coming out every time they snapped. Oh, G-ball, jeepers. Steelers had a lead.

And hockey, that is, you know, a pretty good league. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If the penguins are up through nothing, I like their chances. In football, not a lead, you want to, you know, hey, boys. Lock it on it. Lock it down. Lock it down. They did not lock it there.

No, no. In fact, the Texans defense outscored their entire offense over the course of the year. Shucks. And they don't get to throw the ball or run it. They just can try to take it away. Like he's still got his Texan's jersey. We're just trying to provide context of where Jack's at today.

One of our boys is hurt. How are you, Jack? I'm hurting, boys. Yeah. That was rough. Just as a... Very, very rough. As a therapist, I'm your therapy dog.

Wait. Isn't that what you expected over the season? I thought it'd be different, right? I really did. Based on... Based on not history. Because history would say 9 and 8 and out in the wild. It's actually 10 and 7.

So it was a little different. So being... No, it's been 10 and 7 the last three years. But yes. Just for context. Context. Nice. Let's just...

Do you go to funerals and like... Yeah, he's a bit of a jerk. Didn't pay his taxes. I don't think it was not great. The overpaid. Good miss. Ackland of... He's heckling the corpse.

So here's the thing. Some people would have joined us on the live stream. Others would not have. Now, Jack has done an excellent job of recapping the night. We're going to have it in the Pinder report, but it's on topic. You may as well do it now. If you were not able to join us during the live stream between the Steelers and the Texans, this is sort of.

So a week ago, electric. Oh, unbelievable. And the best nights. The highlight went on the best thousands of views. One of the best nights of 2026. One of the best. Dayflowers touchdown. Oh, my touchdown.

Oh, God. jumping up and down cafe and waiting. Thousands of views. It was electrified. So this was from last night. Yes. Yes.

I don't know why I did this, but I was just in my field. I'm interested to compare. Because you couldn't sleep. And you were hungry. Let's not talk about it. Let's see. Let's decide. Turn down in 12.

Rogers. Time runs out. Ball is out. And the guys, it's picked up by the Texans and Sheldon Rankins. and he is in for a touchdown. First down at gold ball back outside the 10 as Mark

San Jose. His first 100-yard game and takes it into the end zone for a touchdown. Continue to coach if he's let go, there'll be a lot of suit to knock up on the score for that as well. Here's an interception for good measure. It's picked off by Bullock. And Rogers is in his way trying to make the tackle can't

and it's a touchdown Texans. Only needed it. Zipa Discovery's me Anyways, it's a great night Pizza was phenomenal Were you sad for A-A-Rone? I was sad. Oh, okay.

Were you sad for Russell Wilson last year? I'm trying to remember. No, okay. It's a little different this year. I had 41 cores like Temple. It was, it didn't have that

win probability chart we want to show today. Like it swings back and forth in the fourth quarter. And we did all the right things. We kept spirits up. So get to the fourth quarter, don't eat, temple. I wonder if he's mad for pushing the pizza.

He overreets to Bobby Germany here. He literally called in his karma animal. Looking back, we were trying to recreate all of the positive vibes from a week ago. It's like, well, Rhett, you sat here and where's Robert Mew? Where's Bobby Germany? He's not here. He gets on the phone. I need you got to get down

here. Now. It's like, Bob, what are you doing? I'm just kind of chilling at home, relax. Get over here. Okay, I guess I could make it up there. Great a Bob to stop. It was. Really nice, Bob. Shit, Jack, my divorce was less painful than that.

I'm not sure. Yeah, he was on, Bob got to see the, what, 21-0 run. Yes. That's the Texans went on somewhere there in aboats. It was, and it just, it was over for long enough that you just had to sit through the pain. Dean wouldn't let us end the stream early. He demanded we go till the clock at zero. He's professional.

You're talking about Tomlin's future. Is that the last pass? Rogers throws a pick six to the house. I got home and my wife says so did the Steelers win? No, they did not win. Oh, is Jack sad? Yes, he is. Yes, he is. Of course.

Yeah, Jack's sad. Tough one, boys. Tough one. That's why we, you know what, that's why we can't quit you sports. We can't quit you football. Yeah. You break our hearts, but we come back like a bunch of dumb animals. Idiots.

coming back to be sad again. We'll be sitting in here. The Steelers have a new quarterback. Jack will be wearing his jersey on. I feel pretty good, boys. Feel good. This is our year. I like it.

You know what it's going to be? I'm ready for it. Kyler Murray, looking pretty good. He can move in the ball. He can get out there. Look at him for that. Look at this deep ball. He's got a great ball.

He's one of the best at the deep ball. And McDaniel, he's going to do the same with Kyler. Yes. Football. Fallis. Oh. It's a Flames game day. Get your helmet on.

Get it. G.D. right, I will. Flames are on a road trip. Nice and early. Road trip's been, but they're coming off a win. Yeah, one and two.

Here's your chance to get back to. Yeah. And the first two, it was, there was the four points that were available of which they got zero. There was also the manner in which they got the zero. No style points. Scoring's down, Dean. Scoring's down in the new.

year. Is it? Don't tell the Bruins are hung tan on the Rangers the other night or don't tell teams that have been playing

the flames for the most part. I just been five. Flame scoring is down the new year, right?

That's correct. Yeah. They've slid back to 31st in the NHL and goal scoring. That's good. You're up into the 20s for a bit there.

The high 20s, but 20s. Well, they were all braggy about how they're, look at us go. Old guys were yeah,

kicking out. We need more coders. One point, lost 10 games. All right. it's the Columbus Blue Jackets with

well yeah they just wrapped here's the wrap the four game road trip on a win all good 3-2 OT in Utah Utah Utah it was their first win in five games oh um select the flames

they're near the bottom of the standings you know in the Eastern conference is it a four pointer proverbial it is what kind of is it absolutely is we'll show you later but the uh but the blue jac They got home and they said, you know what? We got to shake some shit up. Yeah.

Shake it up. Who said she in? That's right. Dongwido. Dean is. Did you shake this up? Was this you? Yeah, shake this shit up.

You gas, too. No, I wouldn't have fired Dean Eveson, I don't think. Pretty new there. Got really, really drunk with Dean Everson one night at, uh, I forget what the pub was. And what's in that? He was the captain, he had captain Canada's team to the men's world championships. Oh, yeah. brought home he brought the plate nice plate oh yeah you win you're proud to win that plate you get some

cold cuts on that place of people oh can't drink can't drink off the plate you get cheesies on that platter i guarantee it uh so dean evison was the coach given the old heave ho yes dude get your ass out of here we're done with you and steve mccarthy right former edmonton ice oh tough guy no different that's sandy okay thank you steve yeah i remember that okay Steve i believe that's who the assistant was he was a pick of the hawks, I believe, was a very skilled, very skilled guy. He's out of a job. This coaching. Tough gigs.

Still getting paid. I don't know. It's overlanings. Coaching gigs aren't. They don't have the long term. No, they don't. With the firing yesterday, Ryan Huska is 10th in tenure. And I feel like active NHL coaches, top 10 for Huska.

I feel like once you start getting shit canned a few times, it's hard to get back in the mix. They usually give you one strike. And they're like, well, that was his first. So Evans and God has. Bauden, Minnesota. And now Columbus. And now paid to not work. What was his problem?

I don't know. Well, the team's last in the east, but again, we look at the roster and we're like, world beaters. They were better last year. They were like flames of the east. They were right there. Yeah, you coached them last year. Just like I could coach these guys last year.

Toughly. They traded Igor Chinikov, who had had said in the summer. I'm not getting along with the coach. I would like a new spot. That was there. Igor. That was their Yee go. Well, your best buds with this guy? Is he a hard ass?

I don't know. We're not buds. We just got drunk with them. Yeah. So I guess in that case, yeah. Put your buds. Tight. I think this is hasty. No, it's not hasty.

They have 11 regulation wins in 45 games. That's got to be the worst. It's not enough. Vancouver has 10. Oh, yuck. Vancouver's doing a good job. I'm coming out to the beast. I want to go fishing on the coast again. Love you. Call handsome Dan, get some mushrooms,

fire it up. I got that. You don't want to travel. So yeah, he's out and you know, you see what's happening in San Jose, Ryan Worsowski, young guy. Yeah, he's ready to give up one of his kids for a win, right? Yeah, that's right. Can connect? He can connect. He can connect. You know, Huska's a young guy.

Columacid, F that. we want bones I don't want some new kid trying to figure it out fighting his way Bones Rick Bones Rick Bones will be 71

Wow I believe on the 25th of January and he is the new head coach of the Columbus Blue Jackets I don't know if I like that I like bones it's bones to the end of the year so they are not committed

it's just a one year take us to the summer so you get a tester you get a veteran guy. He's got probably relationships from the organization. He understands the system they're saying. But yeah, it's not necessarily the coach of the future. Could be.

It feels like that's kind of been his thing the last little bit. He seems to be good at that. He comes in as well. Well, how effort and hard is it? There's no expectations. It'd be a nice guy. You play everyone. It's in bed sock.

What's rolling, boys? Ride the new coach bump, right? That's right. Let's go. I'm not as mean as the last guy, am I? Look at me. I'm smiling. Yeah, but Bones, I don't think we're going to make the playoffs.

Perfect. I'm not getting it. You weren't when I got here and you're not now. I'm in. You can judge away if you want, judgey pants. Yeah, he's from Moncton, New Brunswick. He has coached a lot. He was an assistant and head coach of the Jets 1.0 back in the late 80s. Not the Jets.

Coach the Ottawa Senators, coached the New York Islanders, was an assistant and head coach over many years with Phoenix, was an assistant associate in Vancouver for a long time, an assistant associate for Tampa Bay. Yeah, he helped John Cooper rise to superstardom. I think he was there right from the gate. Yeah. Five years in Dallas, two or so is the head coach there,

Winnipeg a couple years and now, oh, HIO. God, I wish someone would call me at 71 and offer me a couple of Schmell to go coach for a couple months. You're about 1900 games light on the resume in the NHL. How hard is it? Well, that's a lot of time. A lot of time, 1900. Some of the time they put into it is just to job justify.

A lot of that. Trust me. Yeah. Trust them. Fakers. Hey, we're going to do some video. See where you pass to the other team? Don't do that.

Hey, if I slow this right down to triple slow quadruple, I can really see here that you should have done a backhand sauce and then jumped over that stick and tilt a world for a backdoor tap it. Come on. That was wrong with you. Do that. Okay. I will. Maybe that's in the bones handbook.

Yeah. Are you stripping them down? Are you jacked for bones? Or what are your thoughts here? I don't know what Columbus is trying to be, to be honest with you. I thought they had a good year last year. I think there was a lot of emotion last year. Rightfully so.

I'd like to see them do well. I don't dislike Columbus. It's in Ohio. It is. Yeah. Oh, HIO. And, but I don't, who's their stars? Kiro Marchenko and Dimitri Voronkov are tied with Zach Werenski for the team lead in goals.

Werensky is having another fine season, 47 points and 41 games. Over a point per game D. 26, 36 a night. Hold on ice time, D. He's playing. He's a top 5D man in the NHL, fellas. Yeah. He was a Norris finalist last year, I believe, and was probably getting some fifth place votes

on the heart because he was huge. Out of here. Really? Yeah. Some fifth place votes, you said. Well, yeah. A lot ever. He's a hell.

Hey, like, if we're saying Werensky's an elite defenseman, that's the point I'm trying to make. And he is. He's going to be huge for Team USA at the Olympics. Run them. Run them indeed. Yeah, and it's also one of those things where it's Worensky and then,

you know, Marchenko over good, good young players. Flames would love to have a, Veronkov kicking around in the walker room, I think. But, yeah, it's, you know, Charlie Coil is there. Adam Fantilli was a high pick that's.

I know, I know. Hanging down, wiggle and a walk, giggling, talk, make the way around around. Thank you. Kesta. I don't know who they all are. Okay. He's got to finish it.

Make me feel real loose like a long neck goose said. Oh, baby, that's a one of a line. That's right. Uh, our old friend, Sean Monaghan. Seen, Monaghan. Six goals, 22 points. Six goals. Or we'll put him on Flames score.

Not high. 22 points in 41 games? The points would be better than you. He'd be there. He'd be there. He'd be in Yigour territory. Our Yigour, I bet. The Columbus Blue Jackets are fifth

in scoring from the blue line. And most of that's Wrenzky. So that's Werenzky. The Werenzky effect. Denson Matichuk has 21 and 44. Okay, let's see, Jack. Name me, aside from Werenski, to Columbus Blue Jacket and Defense. Oh, I mean, come on.

Oh, boy. I can't do it. You just need one. Yeah, I did. Just give you open. Well, you got to get a gutty. He's still hanging around there, although he's hurt. He hasn't played versus you.

Yeah, he's not playing. Yeah, it's Damon Severson, Ivan Provorov, Denton, Matichuk. Now, what can he's playing a tie? He's got 21 points in 44 games. What kind of name is that? Denton, Denton, the car. Matichuk. Matichuk feels very, yeah.

Does, does it. Perret. He maybe has been to the McNutt. Problem. Yeah. Yeah. They've got former Hitman, Igor Zamula. Nope.

Okay. Nope. Dante Fabro. Dee? Yep. Former Penticton V, so I remember him. I thought he was an actor. Interesting.

Kent Johnson, a high first round pick. What's going on with him? Second line winger right now. What about Cillinger? Cillinger is there. You got him on the way. How did you head out of your hoops? Cilinger, let's go here.

You were going to be a star. He played right out of his draft class, I believe. He was one pick ahead of course. First year as a rookie. He had a really good rookie season. He got dumped. Yeah, same draft class. Was it?

Pretty sure. Cillinger's got five goals. Kent Johnson. Five is not enough for Cole. How many did Kent Johnson have? Four. He's got four goals in 44 games. He is a highly.

Remember him coming out of, know what we should do? Michigan. I think those are the guys. Connie should cook it. And I'm losing Connie for this. Get something. Darnoff.

Oh, Red, you're just hungry. Problem is Columbus. They're in the same spots. Why would we be giving up our young guys? Switching to scratch. Oh, good. What young guy are you sent? They fired a coach.

Are you going to send Jack? Make some moves. Are you going to send Jack's boy's area out to get them? Sure. I'm into that. I'll give a shit. I don't give a shit. Change it up.

Cylinder went 12. This freaking core that's so good. Let's this man. That was the year. I believe that the flames had meaningless regular season games while the playoffs were going against Vancouver in the Canadian. I knew there was a Pinder backpack thing with Cillinger. I knew it.

And it was like they wouldn't start Louis Doming because Seder is like, he hasn't earned it. So they ran Markstrom for those last games. One more than they should have. And they fall to 13, not 12. They get Coronado not Cillinger, which in hindsight might be okay. Yeah, you were very up in arms about it. Well, you want to pick higher.

You might have liked Coronado more anyway. But God, if it was the other way around, I'd be frustrated if I was running things in Columbus though if those are you Yes To like Johnson should be Johnson was really high catch Ross yeah he's the top three I think he was three or four top three pick Fantilli's top three five pick so why yeah don't we've done it once I just how many times can we go to this fucking well So yeah I would you should be expect more And you saw them last year

That's a great example of We don't want to re-biggle It can't be re-repeaklin Begling We're gonna stick to the game plan These guys are shit But they've You know what?

This would be this would be The office would be saying listen All you people look at Columbus They've been picking the top five Routinely for a long time They've had some very high picks Kid Lidstrom hasn't played yet And where are they?

Yeah, worried about that guy too. Yeah, me too. Fix your back. Eurecheck's already gone. They picked him sixth overall in 22. Oh my. I think he's in Minnesota now. You know what? You love to. I do.

John Johnson went fifth overall in 2021. He has played a lot. Trail, smoky. Is he a smoky there? I think so? Wow. No. Well, maybe. He is from Vancouver, but went to the NCAA, so that would check out a year.

You know what he said Michigan or Michigan State. He was a Wolverine, as I recall. So in 20, in 2021, they pick 5 and 12. If you do that right, that can set you up forever. You look at that, that epic draft class, what was at 04 where the Ducks got Perry and gets left? Yeah.

Okay, there's a decade of success. Kent Johnson, Cole Cillinger, 5 and 12. It feels like they're progressing, regressing. Kent Johnson, center, young. Well, we're now. Yeah, I guess now. Yeah, that's an issue. Lindstrom, they picked at four.

That was the draft. I think we were at. Yeah, it would have been. In Nash, Vegas. That was an interesting pick because coming in, like you said, fix your back. He had back issues. Missed basically the entire season. I missed almost all the next year.

And now he's playing college. But I don't think he's getting a ton of ice time. Outside of friggin' Rick Nash. They have not had a lot of luck with their high. They really haven't. You said Nikita Filotov? Philotov was Philly

Philly don't backtrack Was he a Pinaran? No, they got him for Sautau from Chicago Chicago brought him as a free agent Who was the defenseman they traded to Seth Jones? Seth Jones

He's not there. No. Wasn't there a Murray, a defenseman? Ryan Murray went in the Hall draft Yakupov. Yakupov draft, thank you.

Big fan. Love me, the blue Jackets. Yeah, they're up to problems. They do have Jackson Smith. There's a really good left shot D from Calgary

that was the last cut from team Canada. Idiots. Not the Calgary kid. That's just last summer. They had two first rounders last year. Pieter Andreas and San San Bozov. So I feel like here's the thing.

If I'm a blue jackets, I mean, yes, we're sitting at Calgary doing this. You know, Fantilli's, okay. Fantilli's young. 2020. All right, sure now. Like you say, Eurecheck is gone.

Matichuk, okay, he's playing for, yeah, all right, all right. Kent Johnson is. All right, all right. Cole Cylinder. Chinikoff, well, now he's gone. They've had a lot of suffering. They have been picking high. Yeah.

But the high, talented guys that they picked haven't, like there's no explosion there. There's no, there's no star. The Kent Johnson one's weird because he scored 30 last year. Like that, or sorry, that's Fantillion I'm looking at. Fantillion 30 last year. They took Liam Foodie in a, with a first round pick. Texier, as I said, he's now great for Montreal.

I always like Texie. He was in the player assistance program for a while. That would be the kicker, is if you go through a lot of years of struggles and non-playoffs and then pick high and then the picks you take don't develop. This is what probably keeps the owner weary. have a full tear down rebuild. The names sound good, though. The names do sound good.

Not unlike Buffalo five to ten years ago, you're like, yeah, these guys are going to be good players. It's just, it might be the second stop if this team's no good. And they have a tough time retaining their talent. Guys don't like hanging around there. Hey, look, that guy played for the smokeyers.

He did play for the smokyers. And then we're ready to go. Wolverines? He's Wolverine. He's Wolverine. Yeah, so we're both right. What's he doing for, points. So what's his trajectory here?

What's he going to? Well, last year he had 24 goals. Talk about Kent Johnson, by the way. In 57, like 57 points of 68 so a lot, that's a good year. But this year four goals and 12 points in 44 games. That's fine. Evanson's gone. Bones will get him rolling.

Bones. Come on, Bones. Anyway, that's a thing where well, it is a thing. Where the coach, they kind of do good and then they put extra squeeze on the next year and it's like the guys get annoyed it feels like evansson and arneal yeah eva evison evison whatever but and i think that's probably natural because if if you're

the coach and you're putting your roster construction and you're doing all this all right well 24 goals he's this stuff all right well yeah how old is he's 23 all right we're going to expect more and then you get four goals out of the guy move him to the wing the uh it does feel like when we watched how in October when nothing was going right and he's just coaching his ass off line blender, line blender, line blender. Yeah, you don't plan

for a step back and that's what they've had this year. That's why a veteran like bones, he'll come in. Calm, cool, collected. You coach bump. Bones. Guys love the good guy coach coming in. You know what I mean? Anyway, so that's

Columbus. Old friend Sean Monaghan. We We noted the lion has you heard again. He's played almost every game. He's played 41 of their 45. Six goals, though. Let's get pulled.

It sounds crazy to say it, but John Mellanhan is getting old. And he's already had a career and a half or two careers were the injuries. Poor guy. Can't catch a break on that front. Yeah, I right in the mix here for old guys. Yeah.

Like, I feel like... Let's play center. Yeah. I feel like he's probably got two or three years after what many of us would have thought with soldiers especially. 31 now. Gosh, we're old.

Monty's 31. We're just fossils. Yeah. Turn to 32? Next October, yeah. All 31 year olds eventually, hopefully get to 32. So on the flip side, it's the flames.

They're kind of a walk and wounded right now, if you believe them. What are they mean? Aside from Coleman? Coleman, like, we don't know if he's going to play. played night at this point. I haven't seen anything, but he's missed the last. Like, left against Boston, missed against Pittsburgh. It's Columbus. That horn, cannon. It's the cannon. The gun went off. We keep hearing the apostles will return, but he hasn't played

a game all year. Hansick's done for the year. Dean long-term. Take care of yourself. And Beacher out. Focus on life after. Correct. Correct. But I mean, to. Correct. To throw Hansick and Bean into the banked up. I have a list of injured guys. I've never seen six guys before, so here we are. It's not impact guys. You're not missing Congre and Wigger and Anderson and Wolfe.

The Coleman, but I mean the Coleman is significant. Because you can put anyone with him and Backland and you have at least one line. He's going to put someone. Yeah. Oh, I see. Yeah. Like those two are good. And we had the Bob, the Bobby

bomb last night, Bobby Germany. Bob the builder. Doesn't think that Coleman or a cadre is going to get dealt this year. That's good. That's a good sign for the franchise. Well, I'm really excited for them to prove us all wrong. History would suggest they won't trade them. That's fair.

If you looked at what they've done in the last five years, yeah, they're probably not trading that guy. Just Jack. Let's go get a drink. Jack's not, he's in, no. It's fast. Jack will go drinking because he's had it too. Yeah, he was trying to fast yesterday.

That's the approach. Great. You're so calm and patient. Way to go. patiently never picking in the top five nor making the playoffs. This would be wicked. Look at our stoic mediocrity. But you know what?

I hate to say it. This would be for those that subscribe. If you could trade, I know what you're going to say. I'm going to cut you off. Lindstrom at four, Fantilia at three, Kent Johnson at five. There's your top five picks. How much better off are they than that?

Would you trade that lineup for the Flynn lineup? I would. Oh, yeah, probably. There you go. They're head of the flames. Just because, yeah. Their best players are young players. Their best players are old players.

Their best players are young and maybe they won't turn out. They still have a chance to turn out. Our best players are old and going to be retired. Now, and I'll exclude Werenzky from it, because I feel like he's already, he's an older player. He's not, you know, of the younger class, Perrek may be the best of the entire We haven't even seen in this level

He's a prospect Cade Linsstrom But I'm out of like out of that Wolf. No, I just Well fair. I'm just like I'm saying there's a chance Well, there's a chance but I disagree All I'm saying there is because yes I would take their roster The only caveat being you know maybe Perak ends up being better than Johnson

Fantilli that old thing I would say Fantilli at 1C And I it's just correct we have a C of the NHL level he's still a prospect. Let's go player to player. Like, you'll take Fantilli as... Remind me to tell you this when you're talking about how great the draft classes are and how great the flames are going to be. When we talk about prospects, we understand that they're not in the NHL yet,

and then some of them will fail. But when we're talking about NHL rosters, Perks played 11 games in his life and you're going to compare them to a guy that's played 250 games. I think... I think Fan Tilly is the guy you would want more than anyone the Flames have you want to Cornado. I want their lineup.

Wolf would be the only debate. I want their lineup, but I'm not sold on Perak. And if Prack wants to come in and prove himself, go ahead. If he's as good as Werenski, I'd be stunned. Yeah, and Dede was removing Werencki, but yes. I'm not. Fantilli's a one seat. He scored 30 last year at the age of what, 2020.

If Vantilly turns out and that Kaden Lindstrom isn't injured, you have two top-end centermen's that are. You could see what they're trying to build. Rensis played 600 games. That's a series. Yeah, this is a separate piece entirely, right? He's, what, late 20s? Where is he?

They drafted him before the Dubois draft. That's how, yeah. He's been around forever. He's been around. Hell of a player. And they paid him to keep him after losing almost everyone. They've had a tough time keeping their guys. Wanted to keep Bob, wanted to keep him there.

Well, it makes you wonder about that Keiko. Yarmal. Yeah, Yarmal. You called him Yarko, but whatever, yeah. Because he's in Buffalo now, which is great, except you don't want that to happen. yeah like I'm just kind of I like his draft track record in terms of like

how can he say we just walked through all of this where well but he didn't run the last two drafts right he didn't pick injured bro promo no but we've just kind of talked about how ear check isn't there and fantilli's okay johnson oh no cylinder like that's I still think they have a chance to pop and be good

but you can't like I don't know yeah what are you saying because he drafted high like what is he picked that's I just think when you look at what Buffalo had done, like I think this is a much more capable GM than they've had in a long time. I don't think he's a great GM. Yeah, that's not the same.

If you compare to Kevin Adams, I should fucking hope he's good. Yeah, which is why I don't have problem. Yeah, but in terms of his draft record, I don't know that it's, you had a lot of high picks and there's really not been any one of those guys that have come through as of, and been.

I mean, Fantilli's getting down close, right? If you're a 30 goal 1C in this league, that's a really, really valuable asset. Or was he drafted? Like what number? 3. 3. I think it was. That's the thing for me is that if you're drafting that high.

Yeah. How good. You feel like you need to. You have to be a real idiot to eff it up, don't you? It's hard to do. Or you're just at the mercy of a shitty draft class like a Yakupov draft class. Yeah. You don't.

Not his brilliance. Yeah. You don't need to have spent an entire winter in ranks drinking shit coffee to take fantili at 3 or whatever. Anyway, it's, it is one of those things. I agree with you. The jackets, I still, though, I wonder about Kent Wilson. I think he's a good young player and all that.

So yeah, they're further, they would seem to be further ahead than the flames would be. If you look at that roster and what do I say? Wilson. He gets in everyone's head, though, because he's so good at what he. Well, I just can't wait to work with him again. I'm just, I can't stop thinking about it. But it's good for Jack. It's good to have me.

Yeah. Yeah. I'll say this. I love your sweater, dude. Thanks. Just a message for a couple of guys. Specifically a couple of guys. Everybody in the Flames locker room.

But certainly for Klapka, Adam Klapka and the other guy. Oh, I know what you're going to say. Yeah. Do you want to say it? No. Lomburg and Klapka. careful.

You guys are spirited guys. You care for you. You love being a fleeting jersey on the, all the thing. Yeah. Live and die. Don't under any circumstances fight Olivier tonight.

I was hoping Jack would pronounce that name today. Don't. Great advice by you, Dean. I hope they're listening. Matthew Olivier is maybe pound for pound the best and toughest ombray in the NHL. He's one on my list.

he just went toe to toe with Ryan Reeves and knocked him out. Reeves was counting ceiling tiles at the end of it. Don't do it. Reeves says it's the first time in his career. Just don't. There may be a spot where you feel like our team needs a spark. I've got to do something.

This is my coach is looking for somebody to make a difference right now. Run the goalie. I got bad news for you. Turtle. Like until I'm long. I'm in the middle of my monologue. Would you just please, I'm trying to. Fellas.

Don't do it. Okay, Ryan. Lomberg's bottom. I know he has. Don't do it again. And it didn't go well. No, you're giving up so much. It doesn't go well for anyone.

It's great bravery, but some stupidity as well. Like, is Lomburg 180? Like, this guy's 230 pounds. Stick him in the groin and run. Get the hell out of there. And really good at it. It's very good at it. Like, has handled Rempbe.

quite well every time they fight. He's just tough. Yeah. And Clapka, you're bigger in terms of height. It's going to look bad when he knocks you out, too. Oh, yeah, no. That's all. Don't do that. Klopka reminds me to Zadora

where it's like, gosh, you're big and gosh, you don't know how to fight. You're not great at this. Like, you definitely have some advantages. You've got the reach. You're strong. This is not your what got you to leave. No, it's not who you are. This is not your this is not your meal.

ticket here. Great. What's his? He's not tall, but he's big. He's 6-1-235. That's my. That's a fire hydrant. That was my post-care weight.

So when he fights ramping, he's given up seven inches, and he's still handling this guy. Don't think you're tall. You got a chance, Klopka. I wonder if that'll make, like, Kelly Rudy does his keys to the game at the start. Don't fight Olivia. Just don't. Whatever the desired effect you think you might get out of it, might be.

You're probably not going to. You got to make a pact, felt. No shame. Stick together. That's right. That's running around. Let's all get in there. Olivia had a incredible year last year and Harry politely got paid.

Yes, he did. A heavyweight that can score would. Not like a pure Ginnla type power forward, but like the guy had an absolutely. Chris Simon. Yeah, sure, sure. Like harkens back to some of those Chris Simons here. Like spooky fighter, your toughest guy, your team's probably going to get fed his lunch by him. And then last year

scoring. Well, it's weird. Scoring. Tough scorsters. Get some space. Get a little space. 18 goals last year. Jet Greaves. Jet. Hot start. He's had 30 of the 45 starts. 2.71 goals

against the 908 save percentage. Who's the other goalie? Elvis Lickens. Where are they supposed to be stacked with goaltending? They were. If you, five years ago, we would have said, look at this. Lickens, they've got

Corpusalo, and they've got this Teresov Russian kid that they love, and none of them are ones. What are you whispering? They had Babrovsky. They had the Brofsky. They didn't want to refuse. So to Philly. Yeah. Philly traded him to Columbus, as I recall.

Philly goalies. Oopsies. And that's why I don't give Yarko or Yarmo that tough of a ride because, like, he pushed chips chips on really good players, and they just chose to leave in free agency with sucks, but I love the cut he took because... Oh, so you'll tape. Cheap shots of Trilling and then this guy gets a free pass.

This is BS. There's probably been some cheap shots. I know that I've left on him on this show. Taking cuts. Well, it'll be a real battle out there tonight, Dean. It's Columbus on a Tuesday. Get excited. It's got to be tough to overcome the emotional letdown of last night to get back up for this one.

But I'm going to do my best. Yep. Jack's ready to turn the page. He's definitely not perusing fridge and head coaches and or other fans. I'm going to start my book tonight. Yes.

What? That sounds like an update. I think I will. We need the thing. I'm going to support you. So tell us about that, Jack. Well, I don't know how long ago it was. It feels like months ago.

Well, it was December. I decided I needed new hobbies. and I reached out to rent. He said start reading. So he picked a book for me and I bought it. And it has sat on my desk ever since. I got tied up in the Steelers, stressing out.

CBE. Christmas, New Year's. I think it's about time. CBE? B.C.E. Sorry. Calgary Board of Education.

Calgary Board of Education. I'm going to sign my book. Professors. into night school. Do you want to show the thing or save the thing? I got it. Do you want to see it? Are you prepared to, because this will fall flat.

Once we play this thing, things have to start moving. We've walked through this. Right, say, hey, I got a great book for a. Yeah, how's it. Did you get the book? Yeah, Amazon. They left it on my dog. I got it.

Who, hey, I got to read this book. I open the package. This is a great book. I open it, haven't read it. I think I need to start it because then there'll be the pressure to me to read it. That'll be the key to. There will be no pressure.

Your enjoyment of this. book will be staggering. It's an amazing book because it's true. It's nonfiction. It is not what it's called. It's a fiction. What is the book called again? Double cross. Double cross. This

stretches back to December 1st, 2025. A whole year ago, Jack. Rhett was encouraging Jack to read and Jack wrote, what's a good book? And then Rhett screenshots the double cross book. You shall read it. We'll have a book club. We'll do a watch

party book club. Jack is jacked. What would the watch party look like? We'll discuss the book. Oh, I thought just be us on cameras sitting and reading. Are we all going to read the book? In our hoodie or snuggies? So Jack's had a six week head start but I think we should start the book club. Oh, I'm a

terrible reader. You don't want to terrible bookwork? I'm a terrible reader, boom. It's my brain, my ADHD. I just can't focus. Neither can I. You ADHD? Oh, fuck. And more. There's lots. So I was going to say, that's not near the top of the list.

Guys, we're starting the book club. We are two of the book. December 1st, book is ordered. Update here on January 13th, 2026. That looks sharp. Just before you play, how many, how many books have you read in the last? Zero. Okay.

I've barely read a book in my life. I was going to say, so what is the criteria for one to have his own book club? Well, let's see that again. That was quick. Number two, I don't know how long that clip is. That took like a week. No, but it's, there's, there is so much going on in there. I know, we're going to slow it down.

I'd have to download it. There's so many. It's played again. Easter eggs in there. There's kids for jerseys to read books in the summer. I don't know. Do that for Jack? So the book club will, uh, we'll meet here.

Is it, like, do we get a week? You're not finishing. that book in a week. No way. What was the last book you read? I just mean for updates. Like, okay, so I'm through chapters. I think we should check in every week.

And if Jack hasn't read any, he has to, you know, show up to the book club and feel shame. What was on yet? Can we see it again? I want it. There's Easter eggs in here, apparently. And there's a stuff on the side. Like, there's boomers slap.

Like, there's. Really? The man who feared. Yes. Like, read what's on the. You got a freeze right. The right page. Let me download it.

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Jack. Go. Get in there. No, I've been saying I've got to take it. I got to get Jack. I've got to do a lot. Hand holding when it comes to Jack. God, I'm parenting.

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to do that that's really kind and generous and nice yeah that's that's great that's so nice I should try that one day and then I forget about it Maybe next year will do that.

God, I can't. Oh, you got the ADHD. So for, just, and then we'll move on. So for the book club, this is only Jack having to read, right? We're not trying to encourage good habits for him. Okay. But it's not like we all have to show up to book club having read, all of us read the book. I'd like Jack to try to get a chapter done a week and he can do a brief summary and report on what he read.

Synopsis. That's like a chapter. Chapter a week. Come on. Let's start it. Let's start at a chap. You're going to love this book. You're going to be up all night.

Again. Tell them. He's night school. He's busy. Yeah. Classes. What do you want to do? Do you want to look through the Easter eggs on this thing?

I got to pull up. Okay, yeah. Because RJ spends, he's just phenomenal. So there you see in the background, your, uh, it's my man cave. What's in the background? Your Yager, Lemieux, and Crosby jerseys. There's a, there's some penguins pillows on the couch. Yeah, that's good.

So that'd be a hockey locker room. It looks like that sort of thing. It's a man cave. Yeah. There you've got the table with, with the book. And as you get closer to the book, see, the pages flip.

Chapter 1, the man who feared paragraphs. Jack had gone 26 years without reading a single book. Not one. Not a comic, not a manual, not even the back of a shampoo bottle in the shower. If words ever appeared in front of him in a paragraph form, Jack's brain did this cool little survival trick where he instantly rerouted all processes in power to snack detection. so when Rhett showed up at the pub holding a book like it was a live grenade,

Jack looked at it the way a raccoon looks at a Rumba, confused, cautious, and weirdly offended. I mean, Boomer was arguing that a hot dog is a sandwich, the same way as Zamboni is technically a cloud. Jack Requel, don't say that word, it builds character. What's, what is it? I mean, so good. Now, this is less than half a second. that this is on screen.

Yeah. But our buddy Arge goes to the... These are the details. And look at the photo. See the photo? I guarantee that's a high school photo of Jack. Boomers eyebrows went up. You had a book printed.

Ret shrugged, I know a guy. He definitely is okay. Okay. And then there it is. The scholarly one himself. Look at that young. Beautiful. Nerd alert!

Now, is that an actual photo of you from your youth? Yes, that is a youth photo. that is probably the last time I actually read a book in high school. Jeez. Deccate. Well done, RJ. Barn burner.

We do have breaking news this morning. Ryan Pike. I guess I could have done the Pike bomb. Blake Coleman has been put on the IR. That per the Calgary Flames. So he's noting

no cap relief, but it opens up a roster spot so we could expect to recall. Dry and hunt pack your bags. Oh, God, can't wait. Is it, Matt Vee Gridden time? It's a top nine spot. They didn't want them coming in to play fourth line minutes. This is not that. We've

seen many a young player come in and play on one of Backlands flanks and learn the craft. That's a good question. William Stromgrin, I don't feel is destined for top nine minutes in the NHL in this crew necessarily. Jesus, you're really throwing him out like you were all about William Strung. And now of a sudden.

He's in, kick-wrack top nine? Well, I mean, maybe he's a third-liner. That's great. Maybe he's not in NHEL. We don't know. It's early. Matt Vigrind's trajectory is very different. He's having an historic 19-year-old season in the American league. It's actually historic or is the Pinder history? Well, I mean, it's quite good.

Yeah, he's having a good season. He's having a very, very, very. I know. I mean, he's got like 50 now? He was on pace to have one of the best U-20 seasons in the history of the HL earlier this year. So how many U-20s have been? Not a lot. A lot of Europeans do it, but you can't come.

I go to the CHL. Sneaky bastards. It's damn European. Shifty Swedes showing up at our American hog here. Not American. I know. I'm Swedish.

Well, yeah, I mean, that's definitely worth watching. Couldn't it be fun? I don't like to because we're just going to argue. So yeah, he'll be fun. No, come on. Who's he going to play with?

That's going to make him good, though. Like, if you put him with Coronado and Backland, that would be interesting. You could give them Nazim Kadri and, I don't know, a fair bee or... So then they're right. They should just keep these old pricks so that they can bring these young kids along? Nah, man, I don't know if it's that. Oh, but you want him on a line that is going to get theoretically shaded in the offensive zone

and or create offense. So he's soft. No, he's an offensive player. Stromgren is currently on the fourth line. You have Adam Klapka on the third line. If Stromgrin isn't moving needle for the coach, based on his minutes might suggest at this point, He can go to the rafters, Klavka back to the fourth line,

and you slide Gurdin into your top nine. Even with Frost and Zeri. Like that's, that's a line that's got some offensive panash in terms of skills. Not like they're having monster years, but you have high offensive IQ hockey players you could put to it with him.

I guess I'm curious for the team. Would they be looking to kind of style for style? Yes, they've said that. It's a cold, so we need a Coleman-esque player to replace. That's what I mean. Yeah, I don't know. See, that's an interesting point.

because I don't know who would be the trustee checking winger to come up. Brett Sutter. He's coaching. But, but. Right. Like is it, is Rory Karens or Dryden Hunt?

What I, the more I think about it, the more I think you put players with Backland and that'll be your responsibility line and you would put Gridden with one of the other two centers who are more adept at creating offense than defending. Well, I mean, it's,

it's not great news. I think it is. That's not great news, but it's great for somebody coming up. Great news for them. They've continued to say they don't want to recall Gridden and have him play the types of minutes that they don't think is what he's going to be. They want to put him in a spot. Well, you could just play him, you dusters.

Jesus Christ. So now you have an absence in your top nine. Right, I want to play him on the fourth. Don't play him on the fourth line then. And that's why they've recalled them. Because the guys they've recalled, they've played on the fourth line. I don't like your attitude today. you haven't eaten for like 40 hours.

It might not be me. Playing both sides of the fence, but all over these guys, and then you're just like, oh, well, it's fine. What sides of the fence are we talking here?

What are I? What am I? Give me an example. Oh, I just fell asleep. Yeah, we'll move on. Back to you,

Dean. Do you want to play the pike bombs? Is it the food, do you think? No, I don't play a role. I just find it odd because he was, it was like,

when Lebrun the other day was like, oh, I know. Right? And it's sometimes, and you're like, why is this? Well, so we have two reports in the last 10 days. One saying one guy's fearful, the flames, small, two things. And the other saying things are getting very aggressive on the Anderson front. Like, it's kind of a black box. You don't really know how close Connie is to make them moves.

We don't. But that approach to our business isn't. Let me just ask you that. So when Pierre LeBrun goes on a segment insider trading, and he says, you know, the team that I'm that I'm fearful for is the Calgary Flames. They're a no man's name. Yeah, that's what he said. No man's not. Right. And, you know, they've got an opportunity

here that they need to, do you think that's just, he's not an opinion guy? No, I think that's absolutely. Like, again, my whole thing there was I'm taking as he's been talking to people and the feedback he's getting as suggesting that, you know, the flames aren't really, they're not really looking

to do it. To which he reacts to as, you know, the TV, you've got to be really, they're not making the playoffs. They're in no man's land. I worry about the flames. I don't quibble with that. And then within the same week, we have Elliot saying the flames are getting very aggressive on the Rasmus front.

So it's like it's mixed messages, is it not? Well, there were what? They just listened to LeBron and change their course. There were, how many losses, right? They went on a four games. They did. Yeah. I mean, I'm thinking it was Monday for Elliott.

So they would have lost Wednesday, Thursday, Thursday, Friday, and Montreal and Montreal and Boston. So two losses? Two losses shouldn't change. your organizational philosophy. Maybe it did. Our show's going to be awfully boring if you're not going to have an opinion.

What do you want me to have an opinion? I don't worry about it. I literally just told you where I'd play Gridden and how I'd rejigged the lines and what I think of, you know, how you replace Coleman. See, it's him. It's grumpy.

No, he's not grumpy. He's not grumpy. He's got my back. Someone, you write this down January 13th, 2026. But, yeah, it's, but you're not wrong. I don't know which one you're looking. You are, uh, it's like trying to

handle a fish in a rowboat or like it's picking up a watermelon seat okay I think I've got to figure out I know what it's going to do well that's the opposite of what you were just doing what's the flip fellas

what's the flip I'm confused you flip all the time but give me an example like you can say that but I'm like we just had a chat and you're saying I'm flipping what have I flipped a week ago it was Strom Grimm get him in play more than eight minutes he's got he's big he's got talent and then today it's well he's not he's not destined for the top top nine. He's not a top, you know, this is not who he's going to be as a player.

It's a good example. I would like to see Strom going to play more. They aren't playing him. And he is more suited for a fourth line role. No, I, and again, I, it's just, there are things you say that I think sometimes you don't even think, though, that you're saying them. No, they're talking. Because you, you, you, you've said something completely different very recently. Yeah, I don't know that that's a great example. You will, you will, you will, I hear you're saying. You will build a case to defend and it's why you're one of the best that's ever done this. You will build a case that's compelling for what it is that you're trying to to establish a point.

But the next day it could be completely backwards. And weren't you just saying? Well, no, I never know, no, no. Yeah. And I would say that's a fair example, but there is middle ground between eight minutes. And I don't think anyone thinks William Stronggren's destined for a top nine roll long term. It's not the point. It's you.

I think you spit out the, I don't think Stronggren's dressed and destined for top nine for Matt. I think you didn't mean that. But you just kind of threw it out there for rationale as to why Gridden should be in the top. Yeah. Like that's the decision they're facing today. They're building a lineup with the guys there. Again, it's not,

it's you. It's you say things that I don't think you know what you're saying. I know what I'm saying. I'm trying to say if you work for this organization and you have the players they have today, how are you building a lineup? And so clearly there's a much higher ceiling on Matt Vigridden than there is at William Strong. And he was drafted much higher. He's arrived sooner.

The productions way higher. He knows I'm not looking for the E rash. I know. But I do have to defend my position. I know you do. You need the context. Yeah. Oh, it's good.

You're just a big old fish. There's a good poll here. Does Pender know what he's saying? Do I vote? Yes or no. It's me. I better say yes. He does.

And he can argue it to the death. Pinder flip flop and fly. You know what, though? But there's some people. They're stuck in their ways and they won't. I never know where you're going. No, that's... Except with the oilers.

Pretty sure I know where you're going to go at all times there. We don't want to talk about the oilers. You don't know. When it comes to those guys. If you're backpack, I don't know where I stand. Let's, well, you know what? Since we're on the topic, since we're on the topic, who better to do the Pinder?

Hello, friends. My name is Ryan Pinder, and I will present today the Pinder Report for Village Honda with the pre-owned winter-ready SUV event is on. You want your four-wheeled drawings. It's barely winter.

It'll be back. You know how it's... I'll tell you what. You know how it's... Can I just have one... I know it's the Pinder Report. Be careful out there. Treacherous conditions.

Rett's almost driven off the road today? A young... One of my daughter's friends. They were out doing a bottle drive. She slept broken. She has to have surgery on her. ankle like leg is slip and fall. It's crazy.

Shoveling your walks. Beautifully warm, but then it gets so icy. And even just wherever you walk, be careful out there. Did you notice the big puddle across the street on that fancy new sidewalk? Huge. You're good for skating later if it gets cold again.

When it gets cold again. Sorry. And I'll tell you, because this is as someone who has had a bad slip and fall accident, you think, oh, who's clumsy or a little. pro old man or whatever. Athlete. They are no fun.

So be careful with the slip and falls out there. Let's start at Flames Nation, shall we do? Lots of to talk about. No flash today. Oh, son of a. But we are. Is Bob Germany writing? We're dipping into the American League.

What's Bob doing? Aside from hanging out here and bringing bad juju into the room. He's Jack's support animal now. He doesn't write for the website anymore. Liam Mabley, though, is picking up the slack today. Flames are getting more aggressive. in the Rasmus Anderson trade talks. We played the audio from Elliott's podcast yesterday.

If you want more, there it is on the website. Everyone's talking about it. Sweeping the nation. It's bones mania in Columbus. What were you going to say? I was getting into my truck today. I'm like, you know, there's momentum or vibe. I had a vibe that something was going to happen.

It's going to happen before the Olympic break, at least. Okay. It's still a ways out. Can we put that on Flames Nation? Warner. After hearing Pinders take, maybe. I had a tickle, said Warner. I think there'll be something for the, I think.

I think, right? Are we a thumbs up or thumbs down for a trade before the Olympics from the Flames? Oh, God, please. Oh, well, yeah. We want it. Will they do it? And then if we don't like the trade, we're going to crush. No, Ryan will do a good job if we have to wait and see because it's the draft

pick, which is true. So we won't really have anything to talk about until the draft. Yeah, and if it's a third round. We might as well kick our feet up and go ski in there. If it's a third round you, I'll think we'll crush it. If it's the first, we're going to wait and see. It's like the whole Vegas for Hannafin. It's like, well, let's see where the pick is.

How do we even rate this deal? I would like the, I'm getting selfish. Okay, what do you want? If it's a pick and a player, could the player not be a complete fucking nothing? Yeah, yeah. Do better than the Miramato's of the world, for sure. Just something. And Miro, I remember tweeting at the time of trade, like this was not a prospect.

This is a 26 year old you got. Don't do that. Go get a prospect. He's a forward or a defense. He's a forward or a defense. He's a forward or a defenseman. Well, round. He talked to Lerianov and they switched him to D.

Well, he had an injury and he missed a bunch of talk. Okay. And I get, this isn't critiquing Conroy necessarily. It's just. Who else made the deal? No, well, I don't know. I don't know what else is available. like there's a good there there's a chance that every trade the connie has taken has

that's been the best package that was presented i think it probably is the case but between grushnikovs and you're a manovs it'd be nice to be like hey this guy you know like you look at the ball deal all right the pick is the pick and the player yeah gridden and ball for marksstrom you got a couple there because right now the other trade has been your your player's been nothing just and the linhome deal is a hall Like we look at that, it would be really, really hard to build a case that Calgary didn't mop the floor with Vancouver in that trade. They got two and a half months of Lindholm and you've got Gridden, Bristevich, and the assets to go get Frost and Ferris. And I've told you how I feel about Brestevich.

Didn't you just say grid was part of the market? It's Siret that's part of that one. Wow. Yeah. Brestavich. Good player. I like him. I do too. He's going to play for a while. You heard it here.

Bristevich. It's hard to eyeball someone. with the uh... the shades there. Okay, he's looking at the camera. I like him. He's looking at me.

That is a great sweater. That's the Dean seal of approval right there. They'll be sleeping good at night. You're welcome, whatever your first name is, Restevich. I'm on your team. I'm on team you. Get the jersey.

It's on the last name anyway. It's got two Zs in it. Where are you making fun of people that had before the show started? Zs? No. It's adorable? paraphernalia

jerseys from the team no no I it was it wasn't making fun it was talking here's the thing you want to get into it it's not making fun that's the bin report I don't want to get into back to you Dean back to me Dean let's hey it's bones mania we've buried the lead

we're talking all around the NHO bone zone North America Bones now here's the thing that I don't know people realize if you include assistant coaching games. That is the most in NHL history. Bones. And you know what that is?

That's the noodles effect. It's like the backup goalie that's always got a job because he's well-liked. He's good. He works hard. Everybody loves them. Everybody loves bones. If you're an ass hat, this doesn't happen. Right? Your assistant coaches disposable. You can get tossed. He has been, he is beloved by, uh,

the hockey world. Can't give me a bones? Bones. Right? Bones. Jack. Bones. He's good. Is that Columbus? The city? That looks like Dallas. It looks like Cleveland.

Two buildings? That's birds. Is that Winnipeg? Hartford? Let's keep moving. Flame schedule. I think we're going to go there. Yes. Love the schedule. Now here's the thing. They are wrapping up a gnarly, gnarly road trip. Five in a row.

Said we'll have clarity by the end of the road trip. Thank you, Rhett. Appreciate it. Two to go. More days. You got the last place team in the east who just changed their coach. You get the new coach bumped tonight. Maybe we'll see if they do. And Badard, healthy has returned, but was ill and did not play in Edmonton last night. If it's the kind of ill that most of us get, he'll be ready for Thursday's finale of the roadie.

After that, the flames have a stretch where eight of their next nine are on home ice. nine six to the next month after San Jose it's Toronto and Edmonton a lot of the Eastern teams

coming through Islanders Devils Penguino Jackie going Ooh Yeah you want to go Sure And capitals

Bones Bones Bones Crosby and Ovi in the same week Schaefer and Luke Hughes

before that Dougie back in last night with a couple Yeah he played great Let's look at the Blue Jackets we glanced at it. We'll take a closer look now. Kent Johnson on the wing,

Solinger on the wing. That's not where the draft of these guys. That's what they're playing now. Fantilly Monaghan. Coil 1, 2, 3. Coils the UFA this summer, likely to get moved. I don't know what the future holds for Sean Monaghan. He did sign that long-term deal there. He's probably a blue jacket for the remainder of his career. So I do know what the future holds from, I guess. He's their back. I was just going to say something, but then I realized he'll score if I say anything. We'll do that, and then we'll hit the anytime goal. Shush. That ruins our jakes.

Told yourself shush. Trying to monetize the james. Should I do it more often? There are idiots on the internet that say dumb things every day. And there are savants and people that just, they have a feel. Let's go to the tape, shall we, Jack? As I believe our very own Rett Warner. That's he was sightful thoughts the other day.

Unlike Boomer and I just blathering things. I could just do it again. What did he say? marketing team ownership management embrace this shit yeah go make the re-bigel shirts do it go make the fantasy hockey shirts

go sell the shit out of it charge extra for the new rink people will come and watch if you're fun to watch good god you'd have to have a sense of humor and not take yourself too seriously it feels like there's a lot of things that need to go through the rinse cycle

just kind of let's let's and not to go back to it. The whole correct thing from this week? Oh, geez. We can't well, we could probably have a little refresh there too. Let's just kind of, let's change our whole way of thinking. Okay, so baby steps. Who are these guys? Yeah, seriously, a lot of us.

The one guy at the beginning had a good point though. So may I present to you the viewers of Barnburner? We can't do everything with the flames. You can't make the trades. We can't move Rasmus before the Olympic deadline, but we can make a re-biggle t-shirt. Shut the front door. Ladies and gentlemen, gentlemen, RJ's done it again.

Not just the book club. Oh, but the Rebiggle t-shirt. Black, gorgeous. And white available for you. Now, there is some font on there. You see Rebiggle. This looks like what, Dean? It looks like a descriptor from a dictionary.

That is correct. So you have a word. It is phonetically sounded out for you. It is separated by the, what would you call? The hyphen. Yeah. And there again, I think. Like, syllables. It's different syllables.

You would have capitalized one of those to know where the emphasis was, right? Like, there we go. So the BIG in the middle would have been all caps, but verb, informal, stupid. Oh. To endeavor to construct a competitive or least respectable hockey team, but to fail so comprehensively that a full rebuild inadvertently occurs. Two, to publicly profess playoff ambition while occupying the lowest positions in the standings for prolonged periods to refrain from collapse as development and failure as a plan.

after finishing what observers described peak sadness. Congress management finally admitted a Rubigel was on. There is, folks. They should gear.com. Rebiggle. Reframe collapse. If they're not going to make t-shirts, we will. Yes.

And if anyone's mad, it was Rett's idea. Thanks for doing that, Rhett. I can run from them. Let us continue to roll. rebiggle conversation into the standings, Jack. Let's take a look at the top 10 teams. Nope, actually, we have the bottom 10 teams in the standings. Here we go.

Ottawa's ducked in. Ottawa? Hello, Sends. Hello, distractions. Oh, they got a new goalie, though. Yeah, yeah, I got to play two games in the Spingler Cup, and that's it. There's nothing to see here, Dean. Nothing to see.

It was signed James Reimer. I'm not sure when he'll play or if he will. Yeah, he's going to need to play. They have Levy Merilinan or Levi. I'm not sure why you. It's Levy, Finn. And they also have Mads Sogarde, who I think played in medicine, Matt. Yes, I believe so.

Yeah, a couple big goons and net. They haven't really carried the mail tremendously well this year. Allmark has been spotty. And now I'm personally, for something that I'm sure is nothing related to the president. None of your business. None of our business. It's called personal for a reason, right? Nashville's on a heater.

They looked like they were destined for 32. They're all of a sudden up at 23rd. Anaheim's on an absolute cooler, fellas. They need to shake things up. They also have Truba and Gudis as pending free agents this summer, which is interesting. If they wanted to say this isn't our year, nice start, liquidate some assets they could, but they also have a lot of really good young players. It's not like they're devoid of prospects.

They got Roger McQueen playing in Providence this year. He was a very good player, but can stay healthy. Sasker. He is a Sasker. I don't like our position here in this at all. There's a lot of Canadian content in that bottom four. You brought up the Central Scout. Was it Central Scouting?

We'll get to it in a moment. But first, we'll continue to go down, counting from 10 to 1, bottom of the league. Columbus, only three points in a mere 33,000th ahead of flames. It's a proverbial four-pointer. You don't want to win this one. Rangers, Paneran's a free agent. Everyone's available. They're a disaster again, two years in a row.

Chicago's come back to Earth. Good job, Drury. We're healthy now, we hope. Certainly for Thursday. And the blues seem dedicated to the cause this year. Last in goals in the NHL, your St. Louis Blues. That doesn't feel good. They should not be.

They should not be. Winnipeg's playing better. They've got two in a row and Vancouver. You said it earlier, seven in a row? Uh, yeah. Someone else has said it. It's not good. Because they lost.

They got, what, did they get shut out? They're the opposite of hot, and they got pumped by Montreal last night. It was six three last. I checked. Nine of ten? Oh. Seven in a row. Yeah.

Goosh. Goose indeed. Competition at the bottom, friends. Do we have any goosh t-shirts? They're processing. It takes a while. Let's continue to move. Finals from last night.

We'll show you some of these sad sack, bottom 10 teams that were in action. Some of the results that followed. There is. Thank you, Jack. Sabers lose a close one. Panthers are going to be there again, aren't they? Wings, big win there. That's a heated rivalry.

That's the old, uh, Carmanos Illich Bowl, Fedorov Offersheet Bowl, and they actually raised Fedorov's jersey against the team that offersheeded him. Remember, that was a huge controversy. Big money. It's like $9 million. I think it was $38 over six, and he had like a $20 million bonus if they won the Stanley Cup caron. I was like, we're never going to pay that. Detroit's like, fuck, we're going to have to pay that. We get a good team. They matched. Eventually, he'd continue on to what, Anaheim and Columbus in opposite order, I think. Lightning continued to roll. bad news for Braden Point holding his knee helped off the ice after scoring amid that 5-1 win.

Plug our computer inject. 4-2 Seattle over the Rangers. We called that one on the picks. A loss for the Vancouver Canucks. And the Wild actually got upset by the Devils. That was one we were wrong on. We had two or three last night. Devils beat the Hawks without Bedard.

Dallas 3-1 winners over the Kings. And the nightcap was a gem. Don't know if he caught it late. Leif's playing well. Get a lead in Colorado, abs tie it late. Matthews with a gorgeous goal, and then they win it in overtime on a nasty finish from William Nealander, five hole on a two on one, three on three.

Great slate. Now, we had noted Central Scouting. We did make Mission McKenna shirts. They are also available at NationGuear.com. The thing we didn't expect to happen is this is absolutely a multi-horse race for first place. This is not a one and done. Let's look at the mid-season rankings. from the NHL Central Scouting.

McKenna comes in one in North America, Verhoff 2, nothing crazy there. That's status quo from the beginning of the year. Carson Carls, who we talked about heading into the world juniors. In PG, he's making a jump. Chase Reed from the Sioux, he's making a jump as the D-Man. And look at this. We talked about it, Rhett.

We liked Caleb Multer at the top prospects game. He is ahead of Tyn and Lawrence, who many scouts still feels the prohibitive number one. That's maybe the most controversial move in the NHL Central scouting mid-season rankings in North America. We never talk about the stuff unless the flame sucks. Like every other year, the last 25 years, we talk about the stuff. Back to the European side of the pond.

Who don't we want? Well, we like a lot of these guys. That guy at the top looks pretty damn good. Basically a point per game playing against men in the top league in Sweden. Nobody does that. This is good stuff. Not huge, talented player. What would be worst case scenario?

Like, I know drafting 15th would be. Yeah, 16 would be peak pain, yeah. Albert Smith's. He's the huge Latvian defender, his stock rising coming out of the world juniors. Do they have to draft a setter? Nope, they don't. Go get a good player.

Yeah, there's multiple needs. Yeah, you are not so good that you're one piece away, and when you draft a position, it can hurt you. You can always trade a very good winger to get other pieces, if need be. Just draft a really good player. Here's some notes reacting to the midseason rankings of Stephen Ellis, our prospect, Ney at Daily Faceoff, he's a beauty.

There's no doubting McKenna has the most skill in this draft class. His creatively allowed him to challenge to the world junior scoring lead earlier this month. Unbelievable moving the puck of the power play, but five on five in defensive zone play leave a lot to be desired. Scouts have their doubts about his ability to be a true game changer at the next level.

Makes me want him even more. Let's call Willie. It's like, you talk about us. Call this your car, but Darby. He's got to be more of a 200-foot player. You got to be, you know what? I'd take them.

We got enough. We'll figure some other guys out to be. Oh, you got 100 points on the power play. Did the last year? These are soft. No, the thing is, is not, is mechanic going to be good? It's going to be very, very good. The question is, do you take him ahead of Stenberg right now?

And or Verhof, if you have the need on the blue line, let's see more on Stenberg. The next blurb is specifically on him. Already playing exceptionally well against men, averaging nearly a point per game with Furunda. This is the top league in. not the second or the third, not a junior league. He will beat you more with pure hockey sense, but he's got incredible hands as well. Feels like more leaning towards Stenber becoming the top prospect,

but not everyone's convinced. Some still think he's a three behind McKenna and Vera. It's three horse race. For what it's worth, this feels like the closest fight for number one, it has been all season long. So is it three good choices, or is there no superstar? Or are we going to look back and say, yeah, the top six, seven picks are all good players.

I don't know. Yeah, or is not a three-horse? course, there is one that's going to be way better than the others. Yeah, and they're very different, right? Like you're talking about a, I don't want to be in the top three. If that's the kind of pressure, we've got to deal with. Take Mahalter at four or five. Yeah.

Kind of Lawrence or one of those D-Men. I still feel like I'd like the number one pick. A lot of pressure that comes with that. A lot of pressure. A lot of pressure on them. It's all right. Better be ready for that, kids. Okay, that's it on that.

Now, the draft itself, where is it taking place? Welcome to Buffalo. Oh, my God. Buffalo and June, Red, paint us a picture. Oh, it's beautiful. You got the lake there. It's humid? The highway.

There's some wings and pizza that'll be strewn about, Lenova. Go to chefs for some chicken parm. Spaghetti parm. Delicious. Can't need a nap after that. If you get the bread, you want to get the meat sauce to dip into it. Oh, baby. We've talked about it for 15 years.

boom. I know it's not sexy, but we need to go to Buffalo with Rhett. No. What? No? We don't need to. We need to.

If I have a bucket list of things to do before I die, that's on it. Go to Buffalo with Red. I would go. It's not on my bucket list. Where are you having you? You give me, like, I've said it twice. I know, I know, I know. I'm going to Buffalo.

I'm disappointed in you. I've never been to Costa Rica. I'll go there. Let's go there. I'd like to go to go to school And again, not mutually

exclusive. We can get involved. I don't we stop in. But Jack, are you in on the, the Rett Buffalo experience or no? Yeah, I'm in.

Write that book. You can read it. On the flight. Yeah. Like I would go. Yeah. But it's not. We should go to the draft.

I'm not going to be deathbed thinking, man. Never got to Buffalo. Never did get to Buffalo with grass. What if we went to the draft? Okay. Sure.

Do we like going to the draft? Because you've, we've had some. But there again, about going to the draft, it's more about going to Buffalo. I may not get to the building. Let's go on. There's a good concert.

Screwed the draft. NFL draft to Pittsburgh. No. Let's go over a Bills game. That's really what we're talking about. We're doing the drafts. Road trip. Road trip.

Okay. I think the NFL draft would be terrible. I agree. Let's move. Jack would love it. Why do you think it'd be terrible? Just how they do it. It was like last year's NHLJLJ.

It's stupid. Let's play the game. shall we? Okay, Peter Schaefer. Oh, wow. That was cool. The, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the Gensel. Nice.

Lars, Ellar. Placanic. Lars Eller. Columbus and Calgary. Monaghan. The big man, the defenseman. Good Branson. Johnny.

Nice and peace. Wings and Bruntz. This should be easy. Go back to original six. There's only, the guys had to have moved around a bit. John O'Gradne. Okay, trust it. I think did a

I'll go, I'll Google it. Thank you. Carolina St. Louis. John O'Grodnick. No. Carolina St. Louis? Cam Jansons. Do you play Carolina?

No. Carolina's tough. You always remember these turkeys. Hmm. Go to the next one. Rindamore. Yes. Rindamore blue.

Yes. Oh, nice. Good, fun. Really good. Devin Dubnick. We'll do that one again. Sure. Why not?

Islanders, Jets. Ooh. Rick Bonas? Yeah. Sure. Was you an Islander? Scotto, Utah. O'Grodnick was never a ruin.

We need to double back at the end of the case. Jay J.J. Sorry, Machelli. He's in Toronto this year. It was just there. signing the summer. Yeah. It's a win.

We'll keep a movie. Dallas Anaheim. Corey Perry. Scorri-Pair. Corey Perry is good for a lot of these bounced around so much late. Well, when in doubt you say Mike Sillinger, he's played for a lot of teams too. So who don't we have?

Carolina, St. Louis and Detroit Boss. No, we got Brindamore. So it's Detroit. Detroit and Boston. Chaseon? No. Jason was a wing. He's a brunt.

People, come on. Help us here. Not Larry Murphy. My guy. Does Suda? There's got to be one. that's right on the, like, on the nose. I know.

It's got to be. Oh, that's good now. No, I can't move to this done. Come on, people. I know. We can't help us. Let's go. Comments, I'm watching you.

Who played for the Boston Bruins and the Detroit? I'm cheating, rat. It's cheating. Don't tell us, but you can get an answer for this. Who's the guy in Chicago now that they signed? What's he doing? Position. Multiple players.

Forward. Tyler Bertuzi. Excellent. Yes. Bang. Well done. That's a good. Thank you, Jack.

Excellent. Okay, good. That's it. We're good. We can move on. That's our real-time game day schedule. Chris Draper, I don't believe Draper was ever a Bruin.

Ooh, I think you. Marty LaPointe. Marty LaPointe. Marty LaPointe was. Yeah. He signed that fat UFA deal with the Bruins. Maybe. We showed you the peak sadness last night with Jack.

Pizza was good. Fasting was tough. And, well, his dealers are out. Let's show the divisional slate first. We'll do that. we'll get into the odds. Because here's what we got. The bills are going to play Saturday 2.30 Mountain.

That's the time zone in Denver and here in Calgary. Brett, I'd like you to go, but I understand if you don't go. Lots of good places to watch the game. I don't want to be like Jack stuck in Denver eating at Denver. Denver and Denver may have to wait. Bills against Broncos. Niners and Seahawks, NFC, West Grudge match. No George Kettle moving forward.

That is the Saturday night game. So, shh. And they just played each other. played for hold for the rights week 18 to miss last week's game that's right if sanford had won that they would stay home the entirety of the play hittles wouldn't be hurt close to that substation i don't know uh Houston not sure how they got here but they'll go to new england to face the patriots two good defensive performances same color scheme all right and the rams will go to face dean's bears saturday in chicago that is a southern california soft team heading into Chicago in January. Saturday.

Crank up the way better than Sunday to me. I think we got a serious defensive slugfest in New England. And I think when you combine with the Rams and Bears do, they just don't play a lot of boring games. Crazy comebacks, great offenses. Here are your odds. Denver by one. Nineers, seven and a half points there will get.

Only by one. I know. Texans getting three points in New England and the Rams favored on the road by three and a half. No love for your bears. No. That's how you like it. Just the way.

Just the way we like it. There you go. Seven and a half. That's a lot of points in Seattle. And the hawks have been good. They're well rested. They didn't just lose their tight end to an Achilles rupture. Speaking of which,

George Kittle had this statement to make. After his season concluding Achilles injury on the weekend. There's his wife. We saw her in the wide receiver series or the receiver series. Football sucks sometimes, but I love it. I love these guys in this team, heartbroken, but it felt so much love and support from everyone reaching out. I'll be good. Thank you. We aren't done yet. When your team owner is the first person to meet you in the locker room, you know you're in a special place. I'll call it emoji. Cheers. All my love. There's George Kittle. What a beauty. That's cheesy. Just smashed a whole bottle of Petron.

He's feeling the love, right? Oh, sentimental. What's cheesy? Is it the white photo or the words? The words. But I'm not on social maybe. This is what, maybe what you're supposed to do.

Uh, yeah, it's kind of weird, isn't it social? Which is, and, I mean, you are a softy.

Oh, you are a honey-jurper, yeah. So imagine if you were on social. It's coming. Bell's fans getting wound up for Denver. Dills Mafia's ready to go. We saw them traveling with tables.

There could be some serious battles. Well, here's the thing. In Denver. They just, did something they haven't done in a long time. A playoff road win. 1993 was the last time. Jack, were you dead? I was dead.

Sheesh. What's wrong with you? In Jack's life, we just witnessed the first Bill's Road Playoff win. You can't handle the truth. That's right. A few good men, the number one movie back in 1993. The number one song, I will always love you by Whitney Houston. Dean, take it away. I would need to warm up my pipes and the price of gas, a buck six a gallon. That's somewhere around what, probably 30 cents a liter? You got more taxes here, obviously.

It's been a while. And it was all on that man's shoulders, I believe. Yeah, I believe they got the right photo. Yeah, it wasn't the coaching that got him through. Yeah. I'm stunned. Congrats on your first road playoff win since 93. Oh, I didn't play.

I know, but that's, you know what I'm saying. You're the only one that's won a game. No one else did it. No. Can he? Why are we using the McDermott photo? How many, it's because it's the road is, how many more wins can he will them to? Yep.

If nothing. It's not an insurmountable number, but it's him. Three more. Can he get him the ball? Three more time. Can you get him the ball down by less than seven? Let's play this. Two minutes to play.

Can you do it? Denver's offense isn't great, right? It's solid, but not spectacular. Okay, so you can hang in there. Your D can maybe hang in there and stop the run a little bit, not let them put up too many them. Yeah. Like, I don't think their run game.

Good, not great. That's it. And that's, yeah, that's Buffalo's Achilles seal. You just had Tutin and Etienne. Well, look, I mean, look at this as good or better than Denver's running. What did we learn last night? because it was all about the Texans defense, right?

It's the Texans defense and the Steelers, right? Just get some points on that defense. Can you do it? Actually, wait. No, you can't. Couldn't do it. Well, that defense actually flex. I do like Buffalo's quarterback better than that fossil that Pittsburgh ran out.

But the problem that I, whatever, they're cooked. I think they could win this weekend. But I think Houston wins. I did too. And I don't, I saw Houston handle. Just like Houston, the bills,

just like Houston handled Pittsburgh last night. It was like, who, it's a, you know what, it's a great discussion. Because on one hand, Stroud looked awful.

Yep. Is he going to be awful again? Is he, because if he's a little bit better, if he turns out of the ball less than three times, then you really like them. But I like,

I think the Patriots D is no joke. While they're at home, it's not. It's good football boys. There's no stinkers in there. I'm not surprised the bills are only getting one. How do we feel? Like the biggest lines obviously San France seven and a half. Does that feel like a huge number?

Is that just people realizing how complete Seattle is? Like it's still Sam Darnel. We do have San Darnel denial, or at least the lack of belief in Sam Darnel at this point, it's career to win the big game. I know where I'm going. One points. And you talked many times

of how much you were impressed by Pertie last week. And it was kind of like that line last week. But four, four and a half, five, just kind of a half, six at one point. Yeah. And did it without kid a lot already. Do it again. Okay. We closed the Pinder Report with a special contribution from our good friend,

Dean Mulberry. Yeah, no, it's just submission. There's certain things. Love submissions. It's like, oh, this has got something in it. Well, that's probably Pinder Report worthy. Yeah, take a look. Here we go.

As a paratrooper or something. What's up, Skip? Hey, fuck off! Back off! Go away! Yeah, fucking kangaroos. They're mean bastards. They are mean.

They're at assholes. Now, have we not played this in the pitterpard before or not? Because I know I've seen it. I've seen this. I don't know. Yeah, I think it was months ago, but we've seen so many kangaroos. Could have been years ago. Yeah.

I feel like there's... Because, like, you can hard. land on the ground before he's being attacked by Ruse. Yeah, like, are they sizing them up? They're like, look at this dinner coming in. What's their eyesight? What's the tracking ability of a kangaroo?

And look at the claws on these. See you next Tuesdays. Like, it's, jeez, you don't want that guy to throw on a punch. And you could be right. I find it hard to believe there's a kangaroo video that hasn't been on the PIN report by now. I mean, maybe this happened last week, but I swear I've seen this one. But I love it. It's good. It belongs here. And that is your Pender. And I like the little,

just the, his comment at the end. Just kind of brought it all together. Yeah. Fucking kangaroos. Because the tone there tells you, he's not totally shocked by it. It's like this is another one of these daily annoyances that I have to deal with. You'll hear about raccoons from a lot of people. They don't live here.

But in parts of the world they live, people just bitch about raccoons all day. Fucking traffic. Freaking raccoons. Oh, geez. Freaking criss. Freaking kangaroos. Yeah. Fucking kangaroos.

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Tomorrow on the show, we'll look back at this matchup tonight. No football to get in the way. No distractions. We're going to fully focus Tuesday in Columbus. Jackets, flames. We're in. We're in tonight. Noodles tomorrow on the Crystal Waters,

plumbing and Hegan Insider hotline, I presume. I'll check with them. Can't wait. He will be in. There's a lot of love for him on that stream last night on TSN. Hey, look at these guys. Serious. They're getting lots of commercials, right?

That's pets. Yeah, all right. So that's coming up tomorrow. Bet 365. We did some, we did some bets. Yeah. go. What's it

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Pick, bang, bang. It's not a terrible week. Five and one, three and two, Jack, because he didn't pick the Steelers game as per Jack's policies.

And boom and I three and three, above five. hundred across the board. Well done, well done, good job, guys. It's the way there. Felt kind of browbeaten

into staying with the Eagles, even though it was moving and I kind of wanted to, that's fine. It's all right. That's true. You were talking about it, and I wouldn't allow it.

You wouldn't allow it. We needed that, thank you. And the Steelers screwed us, Jack. That's the last time I ever picked the Steelers. Yeah, I'm not doing any more watch parties with Jack and the Steelers. Oh, no.

This year? What? Yeah. Oh, this year. It's over. Yeah, we're done for it. Unless they play on Thanksgiving, 2026.

I'm into that actually. Yeah. Can we get the Steelers on the Thanksgiving game, Jack? I don't make those calls. Ah, come on. Work harder. And you know what, Jack? It's good you didn't pick your own team.

Yep, because, you know, jinxes and all that. Yeah, because now your team. I'll throw it over on this week. Good. You start to the same of them. Buffalo served us all. We all had Buffalo. We all in Chicago.

New England. What was your rationale in the Carolina find a pick. Points. Too many points. Too many points. Rams get up early and get fat and sassy. Yeah.

Why do this New England on my... Because they played the Chargers, and you know the Chargers Charger. Good, good rationale. Chargers always blown. Yes. Sure did. So we'll do it again this week.

No Thursday night games to get in the way and disrupt our flow. Friday? Picks. We'll get into it. It's going to be good. It's going to be great. Fewer games now, though.

Not many left. Hey, there's just not many football games left. So we get four this weekend, two the weekend after that, and then the Super Bowl? A week off. Jeez. Weeks off. You tell me we have seven games in the next month.

That's it. Seven games in the next month. Yeah. There'll not be any dogs. Thank you, Bet365. Whatever the moment, it's never ordinary at Bet365. Download the app today. Use the promo code nation.

You haven't signed up already. When's the college final? It's all right. I thought it was next week. Or is it next week? I believe it's next Monday. What? Well, let's get decided here.

Because they're taking that week. Are they taking a week too? They're taking a week? Because they played Thursday, Friday, didn't they? I don't know, Jack. You're the Yank. Seriously. Yeah, it's Monday, Jan 19th.

5.30. Yeah. Indiana, Florida. That was a watch party. We'll be way too busy with Devils and Flores. I'm going to watch party. You're at? No, devil snimes.

We're going to like going that night. Yeah, that's a busy, busy. Yeah, we can watch both. He's sitting in here doing that sort of nonsense. Yeah. All right. Finally, well. All right.

Let's do the, uh, I should check. I, okay, we go horns. Tons of them. Got a couple super chance. No guilt. No judging. But a little bit for the U.S. Centers of Calgary today.

Good. Handsome Dan. To paraphrase Buffalo Sabres legend, Rob Ray Boomer. you know I'm missing with you right love the show God of a manson welcome back

time heals all wounds appreciate you pal appreciate you uh and that's 20 that's not even because handsome Dan vacation rentals they're doing $10 for every flames goal this year

there was no flames game yesterday that's just an answer that's just a you know what it is an olive branch it's a response to you browbeat them that's true yeah submitted well you know what in fairness don't talk about country music and we'll be friends forever and if you've got a spot

that we can go fisher i made dislike country music what the hand some dan we were doing so well down with the 50 ball i made dislike country music but i like jack so any chance this one can go to jack's friday fund he needs to get out and have some fun blow off some steam and do something mildly stupid but not stupid enough to have to call mcleod law fair point dan i'm not sure it is fifty dollars it's gonna go to the kids but we'll we'll throw 50 to go He's already heavily involved in stupid. Yeah.

The issue is not him going and being dumb. Yeah, that's not that issue. He's going to bounce back from this. The Steelers thing is still very fresh. Yeah. And between us. That was not a experience. Terrible.

Terrible game. Terrible to watch Jack the way he acted. Terrible for the announcers. Red just sat there. He's like, you need to get the ball out quicker. You don't have time. And it's, uh, Rogers back in, under pressure. He's taken down.

Roger, taking down. Balls out. Touched. Is that his last game, Jack? I don't know. Rogers? I really don't know. Oh, God.

I think if Tomlin comes back, Rogers will come back. If Tomlin decides to step away Rogers. Oh, it's up to Tomlin? The only thing, because I'm with you, we saw Phil Rivers play this year. Total emergency, total. I know. That's a different situation. is there a team that doesn't win this year?

There's like, geez, we need, what have you seen, though? Like, well, he got them to the playoffs. With the highest paid defense in the NFL? Lots. They just didn't perform. I'm not even against A.A. Ron. I don't even dislike him. I'm just saying there's, he could get a job.

He could get a job. I do believe. I think if he gets a job, it's mismanagement by the, oh, yeah. It's not. It's on the team. What kind of teams? is he going to get the opportunity? Like which contender? No.

Like it's going to be a shitty team that doesn't have a quarterback and he's... The other thing is, passable, but it's not a good team. The other thing is too, I think with him that's a little bit different. I don't get Phil Rivers vibes. Friendly. Loving, you know,

guys love having him around. Gosh, darn it. Deadgum it. To have him in the locker room not being the starter with that energy that he brings. You can get away with that negative shit, I guess,

when you're the starter and you have to cater to that, but he's not signed anywhere unless he's going on. I just can't. Yeah. So I think in that respect, he's probably, yes or no, on Tomlin. Back or gone. I really don't know. It's going to be up to him.

Do you want him back or not? I think I'm ready for some change. It just, it's been a while. 24 hour roll. We've got to give him another day. It's the same thing every year. I'll let you have this answer today and then we'll come back to you again tomorrow. That's fine.

Here's the thing. I've never been a fan of the Steelers when they haven't played meaningful football. We went to Tennessee earlier this year. Yeah. Oh, it's too much. Watching a team that is just dog shirt, they're out of it mid-season.

I couldn't imagine. Like, what would I do that each week? I have nothing to look forward to it. Well, we're going to have to fix that. We need some other things in your life. Have you heard of Jack's book club? Heard of books. Every single season I've been a fan of this team,

they've played meaningful football games, and that's awesome. but maybe it's time to just be bad for a couple years. You better be careful. What's your wish? I was going to say, when you have one of those coaches where the other teams would just be standing outside your door. Oh, he's like.

Yeah, when you're done, when you set your trash out, just don't tie the bag because we'd love to root through it. There's some stuff in there we'd like. He might want to change too to Jack's point. Yeah, that's like, could I be in a situation with a guy that isn't ancient, a quarterback? Maybe.

Like, Lamar ain't perfect, but he's much more talented than a 42 year old Aaron Rodger. We talked about it last night. Is it coaching or is it roster construction? I don't know how much more that team was capable of. Yeah. They've won roster construction. They got to the wild card and lost. And it's like, oh, he hasn't done this in six, seven years. Like, well, yeah, because it's been Kenny Pickett and Russell Wilson and the corpse of Aaron Rogers and old Ben Roth. Like, he has not had a legitimate quarterback in his prime there. In the last how many years since Ben was? Oh, Ben was in his prime.

Right, and they won. They won. No, Ben's prime was after they won. When they had A, B, and Bell, they kind of blew it those years. But the point being last five or six years. Yeah. And there isn't a pathway to a quarterback in his prime for this team right now. No, there's not.

Like, they're literally probably looking between like, Malik Willis, Kyler Murray, James Winston. Like, they're shopping in the, but you know what? The second hand store. Whoever it is. Jack will be in. There's going to be some, there's going to be a path to why

this time it's going to work. Best play action quarterback ever. Yeah, that's right. You get this hard counts. It's the best ever. Hard count. Best one ever. All right.

All right. Well, is that it? We got to do tankathon. I wanted to say it for days. Right. So tankathon, again, we're putting a lot of faith in whoever built this website.

I've used it for years. They know what to do. We're kind of trusting their math and all of this. You were calling into question their points percentage yesterday. It's been sobering. Yeah. So far. What it is it takes the mathematical probabilities and bingo balls and everything that the NHL does to select the draft lottery and how it's built.

And then, okay, here's, if the season ended today, random. Here's the probability. Here's who would win the draft lottery. We've done it twice. We're going to continue to do it. Flames have not won the draft lottery and have not come close. They have actually slid both times we've done it to the five spot, despite sitting in the four spots.

Stinking Florida pick keeps jumping up too. Yeah. Here we go. Come on, Jack. Do it. Simmit, hit it. Here we go. Bibboby-boop.

Boop. Oh, fifth again. Again. Chats. Oh, Ottawa would be amazing. Look at this. They have their pick rescinded this year for the, uh, yeah, yeah. Daddy.

Yeah. You're getting dad andov, no trade thing. That would mean the flame select fourth. That's our best one. They would stay where they are. So you could get a Tyne and Lawrence or a Mahaltra, maybe a Carson Carl's, Cam Reed. Hmm.

Mm-hmm. Good players. I know what you're saying. It's not. This has also been the third straight time. They've kind of essentially dropped a spot. Yeah, only for the Ottawa pick deletion. Right.

Picking four here. Correct. And we're, you know what? We're very disciplined. I'm, I'm enticed to click it again. We can't do it.

We can't do it. Congrats to Winnipeg. Wow. They had their awful year. They're going to pick high. I told you. That's how you do it. Yeah.

Think about that. Rags to Rich's story. Born in the Northwest Territories, get to the big city in Winnipeg. It could be all yours, Gavin. What would they take? I don't know well enough their roster, but I think one of the big three for sure.

Where are they aren't right, D? I don't know. But Verhof, if you have the need at D, makes a lot of sense. They got like four guys having that can produce offense on that team. That's it. Like it is Connor,

Shafley, Flaherty, one other dude. Perfay. But like there's, everyone else is on pace for like 40 or less. It's a lot of it. Lowry will get healthy.

There again, you can do that roster game if you want. Which game is on? Who is it? Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. It's if Winnipeg's out the podium,

who do they pick? Yeah. Call a Jets guy. But I mean, the flames roster. Like we did the Columbus one earlier. Yeah. All right.

Jack, I know it's, you got the kind of clouded today, but in your opinion, your estimation, how was the show today? Oh, geez.

Oh, geez. That's a late entry. 279. If you're going to hit a guy of the club, at least throw some money on it. Because, you know what I'm thinking,

guys? I think he knows darn well who won the game. I do, I think. What? It's being cheap. And he's thrown two, like, get your grammar figured out, get your spelling. It's not your fault, Jack.

Jack, I don't know. I was sorry. I thought you said it was my fault. Yeah, he did say that. Yeah, I can't discern it. Yeah. Well, thanks for the 279. That will, uh, that'll do it for today's show.

You fasting again today, Jack? Whoa. Man Deep saying this. Is this true? Man Deep. Well, if Man Deep said it, it's got to be true. Yes, it's true. That's what they're saying.

Stepping down his head coach that from Schaefter. Now what do you think? Chargers fire Greg Roman, their old coordinator. He's holding his head in his... You just said you were ready for a change. Yeah, I wasn't expecting it that quick. It's a lot, Dean. It's a lot for the young man that doesn't have anything.

Tough day. Tough 12 hours for him. This good coach is under. Harbaugh's going, oh, you son of it. They want to the switcheroo, will they? Harbao's not going to pit. I don't know if you can go into vision. That's too nasty.

You've got to leave her. I don't know. You're not good. He feels young coach. Yeah, you can't go to Cleveland or Pittsburgh. That's just too close. This brother told me yesterday in the NFC. That's John.

Tomlin, where does he go? There was a lot of talk about him going TV. Tomlin? He'd be good. He'd be great at it. Come back and more money. I think so. And then come back when he wants to come back.

back. Explain how you didn't let anyone know that Antonio Brown was a psycho-human this entire time in Pittsburgh. Yeah. It's a good coach. Wow. Here it is, Jack.

This is the apocalypse. I wasn't ready for the change. Take it back. So Rogers is a back. Take that back? I don't know what. So you want to take it back? I think I take it back.

Are you trading T.J. W. Now, this is, this whole thing is they're spinning. I'll tell you what. Jack's not reading books today. No. There's no book. reading happening now.

That just ends up. Scouring message ports. So Thursday, maybe book club Thursday. Give him a week at least. Oh, man. Just the sole existence. I'm going to have to change my fantasy team names. Yeah, yeah.

Everything changes, Jack. It's going to be a lot of change now, Jack. This is going to rock you to your core. It happens, Chad. Part of his identity has been taken now. You know what, though? We are always going to have that night here. They will.

They beat the Ravens. Yeah, Wiki know, yeah. They'll never take that away from us. They could take Tomlin away. And Rogers, and maybe T.J.

Watt. Arthur Smith can go to. Oh, hang on. Another one. It's from Jason. Hey, boys, don't get to watch live often,

but home today's sick, so get to officially congratulate Jack sincerely from a Browns fan. That also sounds salty. Jack, how would you be congratulating him on? Yeah. On the predicting Tomlin's live?

Ask for Tom and leave. It happens within 10 minutes. Congrats, Jack. You know what you want it. I'm not sure what to think. I really don't. I do think that's a nice threshold, though. If you're going to club jack, 10 bucks, that's good.

And you know what? This is genuine emotion coming out of this kid. Yes, it is. That's all I know, Mike T. Are you going to cry today? I don't know. Who are you going to talk to? Yeah, what are you?

Is this old man? Yeah, my dad's getting a call. You better call your dad. Yeah. Tell me say hi. Oh, another one. Another one. This one's a little better.

Jack, thanks for being a good sport last night. There's Scott coming. Thanks, Scott. That's a good curiosity. Yeah. Look at Scott. Big smile there.

Yeah. Got a blonde with him. Yeah, that's his girlfriend. That's what he got. A boy, Scott. Plains game. Yeah. Well,

we better get out of here before see any more super chats. Get out here before relocating to Memphis or something. No, we had a good run. Jack. It was fun having to produce the show. Uh, see you, buddy. Please.