Barn Burner: Boomer & Pinder with Rhett Warrener - Peak Pain Has Arrived Ft. Noodles | FN Barn Burner - April 16th, 2025

Episode Date: April 16, 2025

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Oh, hi, buddies. Let's get at it. It is Wednesday? Yeah, it is, Dean. Okay. Fair enough. Another beautiful day in the neighborhood. See, that makes me happy just right off.

Because when I think Wednesday, I think in terms of the show, Jamie McClennon Day. Oh, yeah. Jimmy always brings, you know, brings happiness and all that. This show is a presentation of Bet365. Whatever the moment, it's never ordinary at Bet365, official partner of the NHL. that app. Use the code nation when you sign up. Be 19 or older and play responsibly and

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contact me, DM me directly and I'll get back to you with some great insights as I did for some of our pals in the room last night yeah you owe me a sandwich it was very good um what was the exact time well jack has the screenshot are we comfortable using it because it is funny and there's no cuss words okay uh so here's the thing we knew the circumstances going into last night you know opening statements for mccloud law probably good to get this out before we hell yes showing things on there that could have legal

ramifications uh mccloud law personal injury but whatever it is whatever you got going on in your life maybe it's not even terrible. Well, we're going to need a lawyer to sign off. Maybe you're buying a ranch. Yeah, maybe you're very excited. Those, uh, those, uh, yeah, seals in they sign up. Yeah.

Stamp and a seal or seals. Yeah. They got seals. They got a whole, you're clubbing seals. You got a whole aquarium. Oh, geez, I got to go get a seal. Do you?

Yeah. That's my boots and slicker. I got to go down to the seal wing and get this done. McLeodlaw, Calgary, born, bread, raised. Love it. notary McLeoddash law for all your legal needs. Yeah.

What was, well, yeah, I don't know. How do you start this? I'm trying to think of how to set it up. Is that your preamble? Like if you were representing McLeod law in a court of law. That's why I'm not a litigator. That's why I need McLeod law. We knew the circumstances going in, the flames.

They were going to need some help. Yeah. We and only we. Yeah. They were going to need some help on the out-of-town scoreboard. and very early. It was clear. We kind of trumpeted that, good on Utah.

Yeah. Keeping their number one goalie for this game. Johnny. Yeah. There was a connection. Johnny Utah. Real nice. Yeah.

Nope. Didn't work. Maybe he was sick last night. Maybe. Malca. Carmel ventimokin. No good. He got ventilated.

Oh, dear. So, all right. So it's not the blues. This is not the game. It's all right. Wild. Okay. What did you?

What have you been? Shift your focus. Shift it. Shift. So we did. Real quick. 1-1. Ducks wilds.

When I ship, okay, all right, all right. You can work with this. Yeah. Better than 3-4-0. Now, as it's 1-1 wild and ducks, Flames game begins. Not a great start.

Not a great start. Nope. For the flames. Nope. Down 3-1. Yep. It was not the Minnesota. so to start. Shout out of a cannon. Let's go get it, fellas that I was expecting,

anticipating. Yeah, you would have expected a little. Especially with a lot of the notable Vegas players absent. Yeah. So, okay, so that are, all right, so three, ooh, three one here. Got to win. Let's go back to it. It doesn't matter what the other people do. If you don't, you got to win. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Save hypothetically, they were to come back. What about this wild ducks? Hmm. Wait a minute. Holy H. The tucks, the ducks have got a lead. Like. What?

it's in the third period ducks are leading this thing in many oh they're freaking out in minnesota it's their last game of the year back to the flames game watch back for shifting shifting ducks ducks ducks can win this thing flames come on you got to get this thing going let's get her going flames second period they started out there they did yeah yeah you're gonna come i was watching the ducks game did you two slide over and watch a bit of that i didn't i was feeling jinxie they were doing good without me yeah fair the ducks they don't need me to watch you're performing well i'll just stay here You do have big influence. You do what you do, ducks.

So I stayed right where I was at. They called a timeout with 76 seconds left. They had pulled their goalie for a while. And Minnesota knows if we don't get a single point, we don't control our own destiny. The flames now control our own destiny. Should we pick it up, Jack, with the empty net? Okay, so yeah, so we can do that.

Flames, they've still got work to do. Yeah. But this game's going to be done soon. I'm saying there's a chance. But man, the ducks are going to come through the flames. Come on, Ducks. Unreal.

Screw it. Inclusive went. Yeah. It's fall on it. Eat the puck. Look home. Whoever else is out there. Oh, how about that?

Don't do that. What did that winner do? And look at Erickson. It's not his first. It's not a second. It's his third whack at the puck in the crease. Can we do Warner Whiteboard here? Imagine that doesn't go in.

Here. So there's, again, 32 seconds last. to do with the one two two jack if you're down a guy and you're up a goal f2 don't worry about the chicken just sit back all right what a roll icing it's not he tipped okay so who's that defenseman going back for the ducks all 43 good old 43 the guy you want out there for sure in this situation i feel like this is a hard rim situation on your forehand right i don't want to reverse see where all the pressure is jack it's all the outside of the ice right just all four guys all they're way of over there.

All over there. So you want to go hard rim the other way. Play. I'm going to Mitchikov-Hellison pair here. Is that what we're looking at? Well, he seems to have hard rimmed. He's rimmed it. Yeah.

I don't know how much juicy gone on it. But it got to the winger, right? Somewhere underneath the standing fans begging for a goal. And the winger? The winger doesn't have a lot. That's where you want them. This looks real good right now, Dean. I feel like all the winger has to do is grab that puck and get it out.

And he's not really, he's not under any pressure at all. Go ahead, Jack. Sorry, this is Warner's way for it. I should just shut. Oh, wait. I miss the wild. I miss the wild forward now. I guess there is a guy down low there.

All right. Two, geez. Oh, where they come from? Okay, so the hard rim didn't work. It wasn't hard enough. Come on, you stupid defenseman. Get it up in a glass. See, this is the problem with today's world.

Okay, now we got to back it up. That's Zuccarello. You son of a bitch. Zook. Okay, right here. In the old days, Dean, you know what? we'd have done? We'd have got that F and puck up in the glass

on the rim. Is there any thought of putting it in your feet? No, not with that much time. Twenty-eight seconds way too fucking long. You're that guy. No way. Sorry, I swore, kids. That guy's got to get some juice on this. This is like some woossey doesn't want to get hits. He's just going to chip it over to the other side and avoid.

What are you doing? Get it up in the glass. Winger. and then he don't come back out front where's that other defenseman wandering off to look at let's stop which one well this guy going into corner still look at where everybody's looking in a way they're not terribly positioned you'd maybe like that d man at the top of the crease while the winger getting there the winger the winger or the winger the winger can read that because there's no one behind the winger right the winger in the slot is the issue he's staring at the puck he has no idea where anyone is go ahead jack it's puck watching stop and the d tries to go too far see this is what i tell the kids dean

if something happened there's a breakdown you overreacting isn't always the best right because if that the original d that tried to rim it he recognizes i can't get across to that guy after it goes through the crease but i'm sure not going to look at come back to my side let the goalie stop it you know what duck screwed us left right and center they beat us in anaheim and then they screwing and then they screwed us last. Now there were that now potentially could the ducks come back and win it before the doesn't matter. No they couldn't. Uh, so they go to extra time and the single point. Yeah, overtime didn't matter. Who the F cares. The single point was all that the wild needed. And how do you give up that goal when you're actually in decent? It was Truba and Helleson the pair number 43 and 65,

I believe. If you're wondering, not that we need to look, ducks 20 seconds. 20 seconds. Jesus, fellas. Anyway, that's a kick right in the Canerbles. Yeah. And at that point, chances are the blues are not going to piss away a 5-1 lead. There's six minutes left in the blues game at this point. They're up four goals. So you're not officially eliminated, but barring a Utah, Johnny Utah miracle, you're cooked. And so the flames after 40 minutes, no, not only are we in a hole here in our own game, but they may not have known during the second.

But once they went in between the intermission, it was somebody's, they'd been eliminated. Yeah, the game's going to be on. They're getting that. Somebody's getting the. And now that'll get us back to Rets. And now it's like, well, this is, this is not good at all because we've got the third period to play here. And nothing matters. Yeah.

Nothing matters. Let's go to the group chat. What's, uh, what's the say for losing, losing by four? Is that jack typing? They're going to hear it in room and packing in. I think we can kind of decipher the warner ease there. He's just saying, hey, Pender. Check the bet.

365 and see what the odds are for a huge win. Yeah. For the, they're going to know that they're fucked and they're going to, they're going to get crushed. Lights out. Plus 5.50 to win by four. And my rationale.

And they're up by two at that point. Yeah. Two more in the third. Oh, easy. Yeah. Flings are packing it in. Yeah. Brett says do it.

Yeah, I hit that. And I also hit the minus two and a half. It's two and a half for the Vegas golden nights. Yeah. Yeah. You're good. It would be interesting to do a timestamp. on those texts and messages.

And when. It was incredibly quick. Yeah, because I think I'd hit it right as before they resume play. And then they scored twice in the first 64 seconds. 32 seconds in Cadry, 104, backland. Yeah. Two in a minute four. It was hilarious.

It was a lot of even terms. Thanks, Rhett. You know, he's in the room. He knows what's going on. It was the right play. It was the right play. It was the right play. Short money was there, I could tell you.

Damn. Luckily, I have a much smaller unit than Jack, so. Right. I don't have to reload. Your unit plays quite a bit different. You know, combined maybe two coffees in there. That's what I lost. I can handle that.

Be responsible people. It came back and won. Flames win it by a score of five to four in a shootout. Yeah. Big two points. It is kind of a bit of what they are all year, isn't it? Yes. Yeah, they're not going to be able to.

Oh. Just when you write them off, they remind you that you shouldn't have written them off yet. There was also that when they went up four or three, Klap got 1101 and then sawed 11 seconds later. Which was reviewed. It could have been goal interference. But again, nobody knows what it is. So you just flip a coin in the war room and pretend you have a system either. Yeah.

Got that going for us. I guess that's good to know going to the playoffs, though, that you can just, the Vegas goldman, you can push the defender into his own goalie. If puck goes in, well, I didn't touch the goal. Yeah, he was out of the crease. It's easy. So weird night, interesting night, they are eliminated. And despite a win.

And you're, you think, hang on to that lead. What that win would have felt like. Oh. All right. Let's get to L.A. How pumped are you today? And even last night, we did an hour and 20 minutes on afterburn or whatever. Oh! Elimination night. People wanted to vent.

We read a lot. How many comments, Jack? Like 50? Geez. But it's a totally different tone if Anaheim takes care of business for 21 seconds. But again, you can't control Anon. They probably, that's the best Anahom you could expect. They get absolutely shelled in that game. Just all holds them in. But this is what happens when you don't control your own fate.

And there's always situations throughout the whole year, not so why it's 82 games is that it's what happens at the end of the 82nd game that matters. Yeah, the body of work told you this group wasn't skilled enough to be there, but because of some incredible hard work, structure and goaltending, like there they were game 81 meaningful for two thirds of it. Just looking at the standings, say you beat L.A., they have nothing to play for. You're in.

If you beat L.A., that gets you to 96, which we never found a path to get to. All of the win-lose or maybe a point 94, 93, 91, 95. Oh, so you tie St. Louis. They can get to 96 and miss. We didn't have that on our show the other one, Jack. This is beautiful. Everyone was talking. It's going to be AI said 93.

Stupid AI. Stupid. Oh, there it is. That's the reason the flames and missed the playoffs. The blues. If the flames win the finale, the blues will. have one more Rhett Warner over the course of a six-month season. That will be the difference between making the playoffs and having a miserable spring.

So no play in games. No playing. Yeah. I was lobbying for that. Oof. Well, I never looked at that, but that is that, that, that, the first tie break that. That's not a gentle tap to the nuts. That's a, that's a big kick.

This is football to the groin. Yes. That's, that's a Charlie Brown. Missed the ball, but. And the blues won 12 in a row. And last four in a row. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. And when you lose by just a tie break, that means any single point at any 82 game schedule could have been the difference for you. And so I don't know that it would be easy to go to sleep. No, I don't feel. Especially when it's recent, three, a week ago, you're in Anaheim. Yeah, like you're going, oh. There's your other point.

You're in. Now, again, they got to win against L.A., but L.A. is not going to be trying to win that game so much as staying healthy and resting important players. They got to deal with the Oilers on Sunday or Monday in game one. Maybe that's what we should do. So if we had to find peak pain, how close is this? Did we hit it right on the head? I think we said if they are.

The second ring of the bullseye or are we at. Especially if they win, there's really nothing more. You lost by one regulation win. Yeah, if you tie and miss by the tie break, I think we get kind of all said, that's going to be peak pain. The only thing more painful is maybe what?

The Blues win that game in overtime. So you have the heartbreak last night. And then you go to, you have to pull your goalie tied late against the Kings on Thursday. But we're basically crystallizing perfect peak pain here. Welcome to the Calvary Flames fan base, if anyone's new.

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Crystal Clearcalgary.com is the web. website. We check in with our buddy, TSN, radio host and color analyst, Jamie McClennon. Entrepreneur. There he is. Were you having some cereal there, uh, noodles? I was having, uh, what's it called here?

Poulet Rouge. Oh, very good. Delisieux. Yeah. Yeah. And rice. And then the, what they do is they give you like six things you can add to it. If you want to add corn and cheese and all of that. And then they've got four different flavors of chicken. So I go with the barbecue and the lemon.

What did you add for your? You love chicken and rice. That's. Yeah. So I just added corn and cheese. That's it. I don't really add. Like people add like beans and sauce and, you know, I don't know,

a bunch of other weird stuff. I don't do that. There's a bunch of weird stuff there like green, green, whatever it's called, green onions and tomatoes and all of that. Weird stuff. Yeah. Not for me.

Tomatoes. I was having that. I was, it's been a busy day. So I've been trying to get to it. I'm in Ottawa because I called the game last night and I stayed, I'm calling the game tomorrow. So I actually stayed,

you know, instead of flying back. Because it's tomorrow with my last game, right, of calling games regionally. So that's it. That's it. Yeah,

I was just noting that Bearfax is where you guys used to hang out in Ottawa. Did you get there last night? I did not. I haven't been there since I actually played hockey. I had a great Barefax tie that I wore for years. It was awesome. Awesome. I, honestly, I stayed downtown Ottawa.

I could not tell you where the Bearfax is, and I'd probably have stayed a block away from it for a year. I haven't been since, we'll call it 2004. I would think that my instincts could lead me there if I was just in the neighborhood. Follow you know. That's right. No, I have not been to the Bearfax since, you know, I was playing hockey for the Calgary Flames. I can openly admit that. There you go.

What do you make of our flames today? My heart hurt, man. Yeah. Like, because I called my game and I got back and I'm tracking Minnesota. And I'm like, okay, St. Louis is up on Utah. That one's gone. Because at one point it was four Cobb and I'm like, okay, they're gone. like St. Louis is wood shedding them.

Utah's got their U-Hauls. They're gone. But I'm looking at Anaheim, and it's 1-1. And I'm like, okay, you know, Mary Swanson, we got a chance here. You're saying there's a chance. And then it's 2-1. Okay, so I'm in my room.

And I'm watching. I'm like, okay, it's 2-1. And Minnesota is pressuring, like pressuring, pressuring. And the goal he's standing on his head. I'm like, okay, you know, the goal, we've seen this guy. This Dostell, we've seen them do it to other teams.

And what was it? 39, 36 or something. 20.9 seconds left. They have the puck in the D zone at like 30. They call a time out with a minute 16 left. Like it is last call in St. Paul. It was. And my heart just breaks because it goes in and you're like, all right.

And then I start calculating, okay, if they get, you know, if they get a point, then Calgary's hoop like that. That was it. I was like, that's curtains. And then all through while, I'm watching Calgary down 3-1. So you're like, okay, it's, you know, the cynic in me is going, Minnesota's going to lose and Calgary's going to lose to Vegas. To a, you know, that we'll call what Philip Donno likes to term the B squads.

Okay. So, and I'm going, God, like, this is how it's going to be. Mini's going to lose and they're going to, you know, Vegas is going to beat them, beat Calgary 4-1. And sure enough, you turn and it's like 3-3, like now we've got a game. And I just, it broke my heart to see Minnie win because it, I think the fans, everybody, you could just, again, I'm watching it on my computer on NHL Live, but you could just feel the energy, like you just feel like a balloon, the air come out. But then the crowd, they gave the crowd a great game. It was an unbelievable overtime. It was, you know, Wolf makes that glove save in overtime.

I'm like, you know, there's lots to celebrate of what the future is. This kid's a player. The kid's a superstar, I think, going to be. And you've got some players there. But it just, I don't know. Now I'll throw it back to the three of you. What do you make of this season? What do you make?

Like, is it positive Wednesday? Is it negative Wednesday? is optimistic Wednesday? What would you term it? That's about as painful as it can be given how close they got. But I think everyone would be honest with themselves and said this team's massively overachieved everyone's expectations outside of that dressing room.

Right. I think the challenge is there's a lot of people that are close to the team. They're going to chalk this season up to incredible culture building. And the moment you might not want to sign Rasmus Anderson and eight-year deal, I wonder if that culture does carry on to next year. I think you're proud of the team for what they did.

And, you know, maybe we're overachieved as far as expectations from the start of the year. I think you're extremely plowed as a fan or coach or a GM or whoever's involved with the organization. If you watch, you're proud of that group. Yep. But skeptical if they can do it again next year. Or again, ninth in the west, I think is very doable. But it feels like that would be a failure by Conner if they finish ninth in the west next year. You've got to pick a path here.

You've got to get your ass in there. Are you going to get a couple seats at the McKenna draft lottery table? Yes, I agree. And I think the latter is probably, like I would, I would much rather them stick with the plan instead of this, you know, we'll call it run down the stretch here, altering the plan. That's where I think you've got to be mindful. If a month ago you weren't going to trade,

you weren't going to sign Rasmus Anderson, you've got to stick with that plan if you believe that that was the thought process moving forward. Now, they might say, hey, we're going to stick with him. We want him to be part of the solution moving forward, which is fair. But whatever the plan was before a month ago, I think you have to stick with it, even if it means some short-term on-paper pain. Because that's where I think you can get the Buffalo Sabres are a prime example. example. Buffalo's going on this nice little run before their season's done.

And win eight of nine. Hey, maybe we're not as bad and maybe it's not as. And then what, you run the same band back next year and you expect a different song. That's where I think that with Calgary, there has been growth internally. You've seen that. But now you need to methodically add to this group to continue the growth internally. So if you trade Erasmus Anderson for picks to get close to, close to McKenna, if you trade him for live players like the Morgan Frost and the Farabee trade, like in those middle tweeners, you know, 25-ish players, that's going to help the process for the young guys to grow. Go ahead, Red, I can see. I'm just fear, not even fearful.

I don't believe Conroy believed this is where they'd be today or yesterday. going into at the start of last year by September. I don't think Craig thought, game 81, we're going to have a chance to make a plan. I don't think that was part of it. I don't think so either. But what's the plan then? Because I know what you're saying.

So let's, we trade Anderson and we get picks. You're still, first of all, any team that's trading for Anderson is a team that's trying to win, they're not in the McKenna sweepstakes. No, it's later. So it's not, that's not a, the only way you get to McKenna's sweepstakes is by shit in your pants. And Anderson getting traded would help. And Anderson getting traded would help.

But then it sends the message. But then we're all saying we got to build off the last year because they did a hell of a job. Like it's a, and I'm not, I don't even have an opinion because I think it's so confusing. Like I actually think Conroy and everyone should go away for a month and then come back and think about it. Because, yes, they had a plan. But there's no way this is how the plan played out. And now if you tinker with it at all, how does. Does it affect the plan?

And it's great. They had they, would you say they overachieved or finished where they should? I don't know. Overachieved. I think they overachieved because of what the defense corps looked like. Then what do we expect for next year? Do we overachieve? Are we thinking you're back in the mix?

Go ahead. Sorry. You know, I was going to say, Calder is not the only team in that boat. Like I would say if you took Kent Hughes in a, in a candid moment, moment and said, what does your Montreal Canadiens team look like? 70 games into the season, 80 games into the season this year. Well, I would have liked some growth. We got this kid Hudson who's really, you know, we think he's going to be a really good

player. You know, did we all see Nick Suzuki being an 80, you know, 80 plus point player? Caulfield, you know, 37, 38 goals. I think you can see some of the build and go, okay, and we've got some veteran guys that we got to make decisions on you got on contract but when Hudson goes hey I'm you know potentially going to be rookie of the year here that's exactly what's happened in Calgary like the goalie has masked a lot of this like you could be a lot lower in the standings if that goalie wasn't what lane Hudson was doing in in Montreal moving the puck up and being a difference

maker so I don't think you can plan for like the surprise of of a good young player going, geez, this kid arrived a little quicker than we thought. I don't think you adjust to it, but I do think you still have to, you tinker. If there's the framework of the plan, you still stick with the framework,

you can build it out and you're allowed to change a little bit on the fly. I'm saying this is just be my opinion. But it doesn't mean you go, okay, well, now, you know, Dustin Wolfe's arrived as avesna caliber, goaltender, that's it. You know, we're never going to be out of the playoff picture ever again. It's still a slow build, but it's a methodical build.

And what I come back to is if Rasmus Anderson is a part of the methodical build, you get the contract done if he wants to and it works and all that. If he's not, you stay with that plan because there'll be other players that you're going to draft and develop and maybe trade for that fit into that age category of growth. Because, you know, you look at it. Look at it. got Cadry. They don't have anyone that's a star. Well, Cadrean and Backlin are both 35 and 37 or whatever it is. 36 and 35 next year. That's your top of the standards. No one else is a reasonable fact.

Similarly, they're not getting better. Like they're there, if anything, if you hope that they could sustain. That's the hope. But chances are, father time brings them down one notch. So I think there will be natural regression. But that's where you're asking somebody else to go, geez, a healthy Connor Zerry, what does he look like? What is, you know, like Sharon Povich? There's guys like that that you'll go, what's his name again? Sam and Govich. Sam and Govich, sorry. He switched his pregame, so that's what we're calling him. Okay. You know, you know, like guys like that, and you know what, and the mutant, the right shot mutant. Like he's, give him a full season what this guy looks like, right? Like, they're, they're,

There is some internal growth here, but you have to add. Like if you're Connie and you've got some money to spend, add a methodically a player that's going to help the growth of the team. That's not a 35-year-old. Well, we've got lots of dough and lots of space to go add, too. I don't even know who's available. We've got lots of time to look into that, though. That's where your mistakes are made, though.

That's what Nashville tried to do. But can I talk, though, just to get to that point. that's harder to wrap your head around, right? From where they are to a McKenna? Yeah, I mean, I think it was probably hard for Boston to imagine pick a top four. They could win the lottery. I suppose, because I was just looking there. They have 94 points, potentially 96 if they beat L.A.

The 10th from the bottom is the Islanders at 82 points. So you're... I don't know that they're better next year. I think there can still be growth from kids. Yeah. And I still don't know that they end up with more. points next season at the end of the year. What about the goalie?

Well, I just want to, because just looking at Wolf, he won 29 of his 53 starts, which is tremendous. His goals against the same percentage, it's all right where you want it to be. So much is linked to how he plays. You talk about what can you expect from them. It's what can you expect from Wolf? Is this, the biggest thing? What kind of, you know, sophomore slump regression?

What kind of potential do you see there? because it does feel like if they're going to bottom out, it's because he doesn't play well. And if they're going to be a playoff team, it's because he's tremendous again. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how many people have bet against this guy. That's the thing.

Like, yeah, we all go, yeah, too small, like not sure how it'll translate the NHL, you know, all of these things. And it's like, okay, every marker, every box that he's had to check, he's checked. Yeah, so if he ends up being UC Soros, which would be, and that's not a slight, That is like UC Soros is an elite goaltender, but UC Saros didn't have a great season this year, but he's a top tier goaltender.

So if you say to anybody, any manager, you've got UC Saros for the next 10 years, you might get eight good seasons out of them out of 10, maybe seven, you know, like above average seasons. You know, and there's going to be a couple below average and maybe one awful injury riddled one. but like I look at Dustin Wolf in that same vein and I think that's a compliment. Like I look at him as all this guy has done is proven everybody wrong as to like can he handle it? Can he do that? Can he? And yeah, he can. Like he's proven it.

Listen, he had dipster in the season this year. There were games where I didn't love his game. But that happens to every player. So I think they found their, you know, let's get crazy and say, found their kipper, but you know, you found a cornerstone piece in net. I think it's imperative that they surround him with a veteran next year to help the, you know, the mental part, the stability part. They need a good number two to play with him and allow him to grow and to be a mentor, you know, a good partner. Like he needs a good partner next year.

a citizen who can help him. That's, I think, the key for Connie in his group. And, you know, I don't know if Ladar was that or not. I think Danny Bladars, and I met him a couple of times, seems like a wonderful person. But I'm just saying, like a veteran guy. You know, in a perfect world, it's like an Anthony Stolars in Toronto, who was Stolars played with Brobrovsky and got his opportunity. You know, there are veterans throughout the league, you know, Wedgwood, guys like that

who are good number twos that can help Dustin Wolf stabilize as your clear cut number one and just help him grow. And it's the small details. It's the habits and practice. All of these things being around a veteran that can help. Yeah. I think the thought process with Ladar is, is he going to look for more opportunity? Because I think he's seeing it looks like it's 30 starts maximum in Calgary moving forward.

But they'd be open to having him back at a similar number. but is he still trying to find a platoon where he could win a number one or turn into a 1A? Because he's going to be a hard two here. Like you've watched him, they've ridden Wolf the last month. Even when the results haven't been great, they've gone right back to him. Yeah, because he's their number one. He's the best player. Like he is their star.

The other thing, too, you have to go through the process if you're Wolf. He's never played this amount of games. So you've got to give him the games so that he realizes, hey, I'm playing every second night. It doesn't matter if I didn't play well last. game I'm going back in. Like, that's what starters do. They have to develop that mentality. Here's a, you know, I watched him last night, did not have a good game last night.

But a guy like Anton Forsberg, 32 years old, good number two, works hard. You look at his underlying numbers. God, he had an awful, like he had a bad goal save above expectation last night. I think it was a dash 3.3. And he gave up four. Like, he had a bad, bad night. But, you know, I look at guys like that who've played in the last. league, been around, work hard, good guy, that type of stuff. So Vladar, if he wants more,

he wants a bigger ceiling for himself to go chase that, it's not going to be in Calgary. In Calgary, it's, hey, we've got 28 starts. We've got 25 to 32 starts, potentially. And who can give us good minutes, good solid minutes, not be a disruptor, but not be a guy that just kills time in the net, has to get us points. Those are the, those are the the types of guys I'm looking for to play with Wolf and can work with him, like be a good, a guy that maybe has been there before. Maybe it's a one that's now a two. I don't, you know, again, I'm, you know, Cam Talbot's too old, but somebody like that. You're looking at a guy who has been a one in the league, but can play as more a veteran two type of thing. You said Jake Allen a

couple weeks ago. That's a nice name. If you wanted to spend it. Perfect. Like, honest of God, love Jake Allen. Great guy. You know, really well liked in the room. popular you know kind of seen and done it all been a starter now understands to be a two i agree he'd be a perfect culture's been the big word around here we got the culture and we're a team and i believe it there's times when teams tell you oh we're real close and you're like well you sure don't play like it this team it's like they care about each other yeah you're talking about perhaps adding or we bring switching out vladar for someone else it's not up to them Vlodar has a say to maybe getting rid of it.

Point being, question being, how much can you mess with the culture? If this team was real good because the culture was real good and you look back to a team like Nashville, who you idiots thought were going to be really good. I thought they were going to be fantastic. Yeah. How much do you learn maybe from that and how much do you go, you know what? Yeah, I don't want Anderson on this deal. it's a little more than we want to pay,

but I'll tell you what, the culture in the room and the group of guys care about each other, I'm buying into that and I'm willing to ride it out. You can make changes. But if this team was good because of culture and I believe they were, how much change can you have

without that culture change? Well, you still have to have change. I mean, it's going bad by having to change, but. I understand that, but culture, I'll give you a weird example. I talked to a player that went to Boston as a young player. Okay? And he got put on the power play and you got an opportunity to miss a wide open net on the back door.

And he turned and he smashed a stick on the glass and he went to the bench. And he was sitting on the bench and Zadano Charo got up and walked down to him and said, we don't do that here. That's it. We don't do that here. You don't let the other team seize frustration. That's it. Like, we don't do that.

That was Boston's culture. Okay, in Boston, and it's been passed down from generations. You know, we saw how the Bruins work. So, you're talking about culture with Calgary. You have to decide who the main guys who dictate that culture are. And somebody you bring into that culture has to buy into that culture or help define it. You know, I'll joke. Like, I got traded in 2004.

We had a very tight team. The team was so upset. they lost the next game you guys won seven nothing nothing happened to the culture you know like i flew to new york i got traded there i was very sad myself and josh green you guys went to colorado and thumped them seven nothing like you took a few it may have had to do something with colorado but yeah the pain the pain was you know it was deeper than you guys playing i'm sure but i'm joking but my point is is if the culture is being built and a lot of the leaders in that room are guys who are either on long-term deals already or guys that are coming up that are buying into

that culture. The critical part is, yes, you're going to have a few people leave. The few people that join the culture, even a guy like Morgan Frost, you're either in or you're out. And right now it looks like he's in, right? So he's going to help define that culture. So I don't mind the change as long as you're not blowing the whole thing up. If you do take a key piece out, who's a big part of the culture, if Erasmus Anderson's part of that,

the person that comes in or multiple people that come in to replace him have to still buy into what is already being established. So you mentioned it, Red, the Calgary Flames have a culture that has been established and, you know, people are buying into it. It might be Michael Backland who's helped establish that culture. And he's not going anywhere, you know, we'll call it in the foreseeable future one year or whatever. Nazim Kadri might be. It might be Blake Coleman who helps that.

But the spine of the team who buys into that culture, I don't think they're going anywhere. What the young guys have done is jumped on board with it. The veteran guys are there. And if you add new players into it, Connie will figure that out. You're either in or you're out. And guys will fall by the wayside if you don't live by their culture.

I see it in Boston. I see it in Boston. finish in the bottom. I know. It finally happened, though. There's enough turnover. Yeah. Like you saw them lose.

Charra, Bergeron, Krati, all the goalies they went through. And finally it was okay. Finally, it's like, uncle. Yeah, finally it's uncle. I'll give you this, though. And this is a prediction for next year.

I think Nashville doesn't, bottom out. What they're going to do is double down on their moves. He's doubling down. I'm doubling down. Here's why. Fantastic. More cheese.

That's all. Here's why. Here's why. Barry Trots, I interviewed him, and he brought up a great point. He said, legacy players, when they first change environments, sometimes it takes them a while to settle in. Wasn't a great first season for Stamcos or Marsha. Forrestberg didn't have his best. Soros didn't have his best.

You look at the defenseman there. What's that? Roman Yossi. Yeah, Yossi, he was injured. To me, it's just one of those years where everything could have gone wrong, has gone wrong. But I think what Nashville does is they double down and go, we're going to continue to add to this group, this veteran group, and see what we come back with.

Then he'll get fired. They won't get fired. They will be a team that will figure it out because they're just too good on paper to do that. My point coming back to the Calgary Flames with it is if you believe you're building something there, you still have to be bold enough to make tough decisions that might not be the most popular one. Okay, such as. Anderson.

If you don't see Rasmus Anderson as the... Okay, that's good, because what I was getting out, yeah, what I was getting out was that that's what Tampa Bay had to do. Yeah, that's what they did with St.combe, right? Right? You have to... You have to, well, La Cavillier, St. Louis. There's, they've gotten rid of Hall of Fame players.

McDonough, yeah, right? I've said this before. Managers have to be sociopaths. Look at Vegas. Mark Andre Fleury, face of the organization. Thank you. Agents tweeting out pictures of knives and backs. And, you know, like you're, you like.

Nate Schmidt, all these guys that were central. These guys were day-woners. And they went to the cup final in the first year. It's like, no, not good enough. You know, Peter DeBore is there. No, Bruce Cassidy is available. You're out. Like, it's just they, you know, went from.

Jerry Galant to DeBore into Cassidy. You know, it's just, it's, I look at it and it's like, they're hard decisions to make and you can't, I think your best point, Rhett, is Connie's got to go for a couple weeks and just let the emotions, like, die down and let this breathe a bit. Don't talk to Iggy, just chill. No, I mean, talk to Iggy because they have to. If they talk, they'll fight over whether this is fresco,

or if this is a form of fresca. That's two of them. They'll always fight over that, which is great. You need differing opinions in the route. I just think the best point is we see managers get in trouble, but they fall in love with players. And then what happens is when the player can't return that same love that they found in that one season,

it looks bad in a long-term deal. It looks bad in holding on to that player instead of moving on, stuff like that. That's where Connie's got to, you know, have that little switch where he's like, I'm moving on regardless of I love this player. And what are you? Sorry to do. What you talk about the spine of the team, goaltenders. How are they going to get a difference maker up the middle?

Can you go, like, yes, you can absolutely find a diamond in the rough in the fifth round, but like it just feels like it's hard to do. Braden point. What was the second round? Like, there are. players out there that turn into that. But traditionally, you're looking, trying to get the highest pick you can to do that. Like, does it just become that more critical for the scouting staff, the junior scouting staff or whatever to know and have like, yeah, because that's what I see.

It's like culture is great. I love it. And I played on teams where I'd rather play on a team with culture than high end talent. I really would. but I never want a cup because we didn't have the talent to like we got really close with culture and hard work we didn't have any talent but you know what I'm saying I know what you're saying right here at some point and if you look at this season if you look at this season it might be all the more obvious they couldn't score four goals right they couldn't get to four but you've got to add so

Okay, regardless of my philosophy is you might have to pay the Canadian tax. You might have to pay the, hey, we're a smaller market on paper tax to overpay for a player. And I know, you know, Hinder, you don't love that, but it might be the scenario where you go and get one or two free agents and you have to overpay them to come into your program. The other thing, too, is, you know, correct me if I'm wrong. Connie would have been in on Dylan Cousins. Connie would have been on, you know, like Dylan Cousins, 24 years old. Like he's a hell of a player. You know, Ottawa had to give up a player that they really coveted as well in Josh Norris.

Like I think there are plays to be had out there. You know, you look at, and this is crazy and it probably won't happen anytime soon. But you look at what St. Louis did. It's like, hey, we're going to be bold. We're going to catch a team up against the cap. And we're going to go get Holloway. We're going to go get Broberg. Like those guys had good seasons.

Holloways banged up. But, you know, there are moves to be made other than the, traditional like, hey, we're going to bottom out and we're going to get this guy. And in five years, he's going to be our number one sentiment. That is the traditional way. But there are non-traditional ways to, I wouldn't say backdoor your way. And did anybody think that Dylan Strom was going to be a one? Man, you look at Washington.

They made some ballsy ass bets last summer. We were sleeping out at the notion of adding Pierre-Luc de Bois. And that's where Elias Pedersen is right now. That's the only other way to add a legit center is take on someone that feels incredibly risky. Right. Like that's, but those are moves. They're calculated, but you're right. Like PLD, people are like, my God, they're bringing a piece of cancer into a healthy body.

You know, that's what that was the comments I would see. And he fit into what Washington built as a culture. And he's a hell of a player. I think we all knew he was a hell of a player. We just couldn't figure out what was, what made him tick. I look at it and I think there are moves to be made out there that we're not looking at. They might be right in front of us. And Connie might have something going,

I'm going to do this at the draft. I'm going to trade this player for this pick and move this pick over here. And I might end up with somebody who's a, you know, 25-year-old centerman that has been a three in a deep organization. And I'm going to give him a chance to be a two or a one. Like that's what happened with Dylan Strom. That's what happened.

You know, I think Dylan Cousins is probably a two. Yeah, I don't think. Yeah. But you know what I'm talking about. I'm saying you're getting players. He said Zegras earlier in the year. They talked about him and Peterson. Right.

I mean, Vancouver is an interesting case study because they got to get their coach under contract. I don't know if he's going to. I mean, he's been linked to seven different ways to Philadelphia, a perfect spot for him to go back and be the face of that organization. I don't know. I hated him there before.

I think I'd like him there. now i don't have to get punched in the nose by well i i agree like i just look at you not either though yeah i just i look that there's there's moves to be made throughout the league that you know we pinder you make a great point i think this is the bold moves how many people crapped on tampa bay for what they gave up for brandon haggle like oh yeah yeah yeah like it's hell of a player man like This is a hell of a player. And I was talking to the Tampa players when I was down there, I think a couple of weeks ago. Hegel made a play that looked like Kutrov.

If I would have had a blindfold on it and I was like, what the hell was that? And I asked a couple of the players to like Kutrov, these guys are like sponges around Kuterov. That's what I was going to ask. Is it because of Kutrov, though? Yes. because at training camp, apparently Kuturoff came two weeks early, and all the draft picks and all that were just dying to be on the ice with. This guy was working on rims, pulling it off on his backhand

and showing players like little details of things. I'm watching Brandon Hagle have a wide open lane in the slot. And every other player would skate down and take a slap shot. He fakes a shot and no look past to the back door. I'm like, that's Kuchero. And I was like, where the hell did that come from? So I asked the next day and they're like, yeah, like, you know, he's taught us deception. He's taught us things.

Like, you know, you're around it. So my point is, is like if Connie's going to find guys like diamonds in the rough, you're going to go to organizations that maybe have tremendous depth in certain areas. And they're like, that kid's been around. I'll just say Vegas. I don't know. Like that guy's been around Jack Eichel for the last four years. And man, he looks like.

but he's not going to play in front of Eichel, so let's see what he has. Like I'm just being facetious, but I'm saying like that's what you're looking at. That's what you're going to try and find throughout the league to add. And that person might be 24 and fits perfectly in the organization. And now you have a guy who can play in the one or two hole that you haven't had to draft and develop and you're, you know, you're waiting for them to come and the timeline doesn't match up with the goalie. And, you know, my question is who's their number one defenseman?

like that's the it's Anderson and then it's weager it's weager for sure okay so you're keeping weger and then you're probably moving on from Anderson now I for this last not in shit but somebody commented on it I said if you're considering moving Anderson why aren't you considering moving weger they're similar pieces similar pieces I just think there's less like you're you're signing up for eight years from now if it's Anderson you've only got like five or six left on weager like I don't think you're you're looking to commit deeper into the 30s later into this life cycle, you're probably hoping these deals run off sooner than make it longer.

I also think he's a better player. Like personally, Anderson's had a tougher years, playing through the injury at the end here, but I'd prefer weaker to them. But if you're subscribing to the bottom out theory. Yeah. Then you could trade them both for sure. Because you'd get a lot for both. Well, the bottom out theory, you pull those two out of the lineup.

Yeah. They could have turned out of the deadline. They're not, you know, game 81 matters. They might have their own picks, though. Yeah. Look, we got way too long, but we haven't mentioned Battle of Ontario. Just how enthusiastic are you? Do you remember the last one, or even in media?

You're probably still playing the last time these two clubs played in the play. I was playing the last time. I said it on my show the other day. They were like, oh, Battle of Ontario. I was like, no team in the league when I was playing was afraid of either one of those teams because I was playing in the West and it was Detroit and it was, you know, like, teams like that were super, super serious that would went on to the cup. So I was like, yeah, Battle of Ontario, people watched it because it was on TV and hockey night and that.

But I was like, none of those teams were winning cups. Like it was the, those were the years of the Detroit dominance and Colorado was had a team and Dallas. Dallas and Jersey and all of that. But that being said, I'm in Ottawa today. I live in Toronto. Everybody's jacked up about it. I think it'll be great. I'm more in the camp.

I think the Leafs would be favored like 60-40. You talk to any Leaf fan. It's just that Ottawa should just hand it to them in three. And here in Ottawa, there's some optimism because, you know, the Leafs don't have a great record in the playoffs. So it's like, okay, it's weird because in Toronto, everybody's like, we've got to play Ottawa. You've got to beat, you know, that's the team that you're going to beat.

and in Ottawa, everyone's like, God, we hope we get Toronto, not those two Florida teams. So it is kind of lined up that both teams want each other based on what could be waiting for them in the second round. But that being said, I do think Toronto's better, but I think Ottawa is better in some positions. Like if you were doing a draft, I'd probably take Allmark slightly over Stolar's,

just based on experience, but Stolars has had a great year. If I was drafting defense, I would take Jake Sanderson as my one over anybody else available on both teams. And I might take Thomas Shabbat as the two with how good and how great a skaters they are. But that being said,

you look at TANF is a fantastic player and heavy, and, you know, Morgan Raleigh is a good skater and has had 70 points in a season. So I think Ottawa, Ottawa's top four is better than Toronto's top four, but I think Toronto's top six is better, and their D are just deeper. Because you got Oliver Ekman-Larsin in the five-hole,

and on Ottawa side, he got a kid named Tyler Cleven, who's going to be a good player, and he's big and mean and stuff, but he's in his second year. So he's not, doesn't have a wealth of experience. And up front, obviously Toronto's top six are better. You know, the difference between Matthews

and Marner as opposed to Stutzla and Kachuk. I, you know, it's definitely a difference, but I don't know how much that gap is. You know, Tavaris and Nylander, and, you know, you're looking at, you know, Dylan Cousins and Drake Batherson, both had really good seasons too. So what's the difference?

But I certainly give the hands down to the Leafs, but I would argue that the bottom six for both teams that Ottawa's is better. because you've got David Perron and guys like that, Michael Amadio, Nick Cousins, those guys have won cups, and they've had good seasons and they play hard. And the bottom six of Toronto is still patchwork. You know, you've got Pondis Homburg and Yarn Croke

and guys like that who are good players, but they don't have a long history of playoff success either. So when I come down to it, I think the Leafs are favored, but I don't think it's this, hey, you know, hand the series to the Leafs and we'll see them in the second round. They got to go earn it. So just one more minute because we've gone long. 30 seconds. We talked to Dregg's Friday.

What's the Brady Kachuk status? Yeah, how healthy? Been skating with the team. So I would, I'd be shocked if he wasn't there in game one. Like I don't know the nature of the injury, but he was in a regular jersey yesterday skating with them. I haven't seen what they've been. doing today's skating but i think kutchuk will be available game one okay and last week we had uh i guess a grid of the probability of the flames getting in there was the wild that you know st louis

so there was an asterisk in there and then some things uh we we've gone with a pie chart for you today uh with the flames probability uh so i'm not i'm i'm disappointed like i'm uh i don't know I'm probably yeah regardless I'm in the 62.5 like I was disappointed like last week I laid out a pathway for them to get to what 94 95 points right yeah yeah they could literally to be tied in points with st. Louis and lose on the tie break yeah that's how that's how tight this is it's awful it's it's it's heartbreaking But it's great if you're great. You have these kind of races right down to the last. It was good. Everyone that went to a game and saddled on this year, watched a game that meant something.

They didn't get cheated. They didn't get cheated. I understand that, but it's still a kick in the junk. It is. You make 96 points. What's happening in the East? What's the number? Well, yeah, it's way lower.

It'll be the second year that the flames will miss. As much, you're all going to screw this up. Carolina is kind of doing the dress the skeleton roster tonight. It appears. We'll talk about it later. But if you lose this one, you don't deserve to get any help. Yeah. Look at 90 points gets you in.

90. Yeah. 90 gets you in. And the flames can end up with 96. Yeah. My God. Flames have more points than Florida. They went to the cup, too.

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We heard they got to the playoffs almost set. I was thinking about that by the time we talked to him next week, we'll be well into it. Yeah, yeah. We're right in the belly of the beast of the playoffs. He's not working so we can call. Yeah. I do want to just circle back to one thing in there. Go ahead.

All right. And Kent brought it up last night and afternoon. I thought it was a really, really savvy point. And just hearing noodles echo it a bit there. Like, I think it's a really important takeaway. And it's the culture versus leaders thing. Rasmus Anderson's absolutely a leader for this team. Rasmus Anderson is a really good.

good hockey player, especially when he's healthy. Rasmus Anderson, I think's been phenomenal in the community and likes Calgary wants to be here. The hard decision for Craig Conroy is to trust that the culture that's been built can survive the loss of Rasmus Anderson. The easy, soft, bad decision for the team is to lock into a contract you know is not going to be good because he'll have his numbers where he's like, if we go above this, we can't do this. Well, but it's Rasmus. Let me finish. And so if it's, if your culture you believe in so much, it can sustain the loss of a leader. If it can't, that culture doesn't transfer forward. It's just guys getting deeper into the 30s, less and less effective.

You're getting aging leaders rather than a culture. That's a huge, huge, huge difference. Culture has to be passed down to the younger players or it's not real. If you can't sustain trading Rasmus, it wasn't really culture. It was just great leaders. Well, I think that's what we talked about yesterday and the day before. And it's kind of you get romantic about it. Oh, geez, here we go again.

But that's what this you hope has been like is that culture, games that matter. Here's how you prepare for games with your life, with your backing it, that sort of thing. Where, yeah, if a player leaves, the one name that popped into my head, just because I remember seeing it, it's like a lifetime ago. Max Talbot was with the Pittsburgh Penguins. Big part of that team. Everybody loved Max Talbot, heart and soul that whole thing. Left as a free agent went to Philadelphia. it's like jeez it's going to be tough without

without him in the room and you what they're just fine somebody else somebody else steps up but it was superstars they survived it no but listen it's it goes the other way too when you do lose a guy there are examples of teams

and what I was going to say to you is that and I'm not here there with Anders I don't get paid that money to we don't know what the ask is we don't know what the offer is but you're not getting nothing when you sign Anderson. Do you know what I mean? Like you're getting diminishing returns over time

and it might be too much, but you're not, it's not a zero sum game. You don't sign him and go, oh, fuck, what have we done? Right. He's still going to be a good player for a while. At the end of it, you're going to go, probably squint and go, we're overpaying him. But it's, anyway, I'm just,

you got to, you got to put that beside it. If they do bring them back, it's not the end of the world. they will get production out of them. Yeah. It's just whether it's. It's the opportunity cost. Exactly.

What can you get for him versus what will you get from him? And which lines up better? You might be able to address the defense, but it's better, younger and cheaper. It's almost one of those things because of his age. It becomes part of that bigger conversation. Here's what the team needs to be moving forward where it's almost, well, are you a good player for the next few?

You know, it's still that conversation. You're not spending every dime, of the cap space that you have on this guy. But it does become part of that bigger conversation. What's your philosophy? What's the path you're taking? That whole thing. We wouldn't have uttered a single word about Rasmus Anderson,

if not for his contractual status. Like if you had three years left, it's not like with Wager. We're not talking about Wager. And so it's, if I'm Rasmus, it's probably frustrating because you hear all this trade nonsense. You're like, shit,

I just love being a flame and I'm working hard. Like, what's the problem here? But it forces Craig Conroy to make a short term versus long term decision. short term you're better with Rasmus Anderson. It's really hard to make the case in four or five years. You're better with 34-year-old Rasmus Anderson than you would be with what you get back in return or to bottom out a bit and have higher picks. I don't disagree with you, but there are instances like he's going to, again, we don't know what he would even sign for. So say it's a million more than he should be being paid.

What's the cap going to be? How are you going to spend all this? What is your plan to use the maximizes cap space that you have created? It's your lock up these stars. It's a zero benefit for us as fans and his production for a team if you've got 20 million bucks of cap space sitting there. What you're hoping for is three years

you've got cut a huge check to Zane Perak and you still got Weager on payroll and now you're like, shit, we got three right shot guys. I still got the cap's going to go up and you're going to have. I mean, if you're keeping that much cap space in place to worry about a guy like Zane Perak, perhaps earning a whole bunch of it, that's a good problem to have.

Yeah, that's a problem you might have to deal with. I just, what is the plan for the cap space? Because if you're not going to use it, then pay in. You should be. That is one of the greatest regrets that I think this organization will have over this year because there's been lots of positives. The culture has been totally turned around. The goaltender looks like a star.

You've seen huge development from Coronado and Ball and other young players. But the biggest misstep is your cap space doesn't carry forward to next year. You've missed the opportunity to turn $19 million in cap space into an asset. into picks, into a young player. It just evaporates. And you're back to, okay, everyone's at zero for next year's cap. You had an opportunity to do something you didn't. Well, we don't know, but we don't know.

Well, other teams did it and they had all year to figure something out. They didn't do it. There were a couple of teams. Right. So you could have taken a eaten salary and taken a pick and a lower round than another team, for example. I'm not saying it was easy to do. And I'm not saying they turned it down. But at the end of the year, they got nothing for the cash race.

That's a fact. But if that's the regret. Like, I don't know how many options Greg Conroy had. There were a couple of deals made this year. Chicago did one where there was three or four years old teams itself. Right. It's another team's on bad contracts you could have eaten, but you don't want to mess with.

But we don't know. We don't know that. How do we know that? Every team, like, I'm not saying Craig missed a two-foot putt. What I'm saying is he didn't find out a way to use. He didn't create it. So yeah.

I'm not saying it was going to be easy. It's not a huge indictment, but it's a missed opportunity. Seven teams between the flames and the Islanders, islanders are the 10th from the basement. You are, it's, whatever you want to call it. Mucky Middle peaks at, they are right, they're right there. That's where you didn't want to be.

So the, my question, sorry, Ryan, but I keep doing this and I will relentlessly do this for the next three months. Are they better next year? We don't know. I mean, look, you, there you go. If you're looking at all those teams in that mix, Yeah. Are you better? See, buddies.

What's the bottom? No. If you believe you said Nashville's going to be better, the ducks have improved. Yeah, and you think San Jose will take a step. And really, I just look at the eight teams in the playoffs and be like, who are you undeniably going to be better than next year out of that group? There's always a few surprises, but like. As many get out from under the cap.

Yes, they get money to spend out. So now they've got. Yes. And they have a lot of very good young players that have arrived already, not a year or two away like the flames. And that's the other part of the equation for me. and we can talk to noodles for hours because we love talking to them. But you have if you look at the eight,

the flames are younger probably than I assume, but they're not as young as, as Buffalo, Ottawa, like, and they don't have the, sadly, I don't believe it.

They got the goaltender. They don't have as high end of talent. If Porek comes in and does a Hudson like thing, okay, well, you got to see it first. I'll eat my words, but it hasn't played out that way yet.

Right. If you go over those bottom teams, you're like, okay, I don't think Chicago's going to go from where they are to a playoff spot. I don't think San Jose is, but more importantly, what you just said, who are you kicking out? Who are you dead set that you're going to knock out of a playoff spot next year? If you tell me how Dustin Wolf season is next year, I'll tell you whether they're in or not. Like, he's going to have to be star level netmine. He saw it this year. Even if he's awesome, which he was this year, it doesn't mean you're making it.

No, I guess who are the who? Winnipeg's not going to fall out of the playoffs. Are they next year? It seems unlike with a better goal. Colorado? Nope. Dallas? No.

St. Louis looks like they've turned a corner. You never, I would say in St. Louis only because they're an eighth. And they had to have a 12-game winning streak to get in. I look at them with Jim Montgomery. They look like a playoff.

Totally. So I've missed. Caprizo for three months. Half of the season. Yeah. Who's the oilers not making it? No, they're going to make it.

L.A. looks good. LA looks solid. I mean, you'd love it. You have Vegas first rounder, but you're going to need a couple of discs in people's spines to pop for that to happen. Like, it's a far way out and anything can happen. And we're happy with the team.

And I think they were great to watch. And they worked their asses off and they do have a good culture. It doesn't mean anything. Like, it's a really tough summer for Craig for that. Because I think the easiest thing to do is to just sit tight. But the most likely outcome from that is you're going to have another painful ninth, where you don't get a high end pick.

nor the playoffs get your hat on it's not i have no it's not really is it retina what you if you're craig do you want this summer or two summers ago when you knew it was clear i have to move these guys it was harder it's hard it's a lot of stress you're new but now you have to interpret what you have and prove it out this is where you have to be the sociopath that noodles reference. Right? Like to make a tough decision. That year or two years ago, it was real clear what had to happen. Hey, you have to move all these guys. Yeah. That's, well, you're going to be on the phone a lot. You're going to try and get the best deal you can, but you knew your mandate. What's the mandate now? So what did you, I'm not trying to pick at you. Did you say the hardest thing or the worst thing he can do is sit tight? What did you? I think the easiest thing to do is the GM here is to not ruffle the feathers in the room. Also not go blow your wadden free agency because you know those. contracts usually age poorly. But that's what leads you into what we talked about the beginning. Like you can't have another 9, 10 in the West finish.

So what would you? So you've got to pick a path. See, and I don't know how you're going to. So what you probably do if you're really risk averse and you're afraid of a big swing is you bring Rasmus back without a deal and you do what you did last year. And by the time you're at the deadline, you hope you have clarity. And if you're not in, you trade them. And if you are, you sign them.

But I think you should be more bold than that. What if the deals aren't there? the deals are always there. It's just you might take a little less than you need to. No, I think it's this. I know what you're saying. You could go sign and Brock Besser and say we're missing scoring. We'll get in with Besser.

You can always make a deal. It's whether it's worth it or not. It's the same as Anderson. If Anderson wants $7 million, you give it to it. Yeah, it would be seven. It's probably fine. You know what I mean? It's a tough decision.

You can always make a deal, but there becomes a point where it's cost prohibitive. And that happened to Besser in Vancouver. They wanted a first, they didn't get the first offer to they're like, we're not going to move at all. I'd still take a second over nothing. He's gone now.

You're not coming back. You might not like what you got, but you got something rather than nothing. And there's a lot of good players drafted in the second round. It's not easy, but you'd rather take that lottery ticket than nothing. But you would kind of said, and I'm not trying to back into a corner.

Because I have no idea myself. By all means. So that has to happen this summer. Like if he's back, that's kind of a failure. Not a failure. It's just, I feel like you're not back.

You're walking yourself into the spot where you might find a soft market or he might get hurt. And if we go back to the trade deadline, there were four points from a top 10 pick. I have a really tough time imagining this team not having their own pick in the top 10 if Rasmus has gone because of the amount of Hanley

and Miramano and Bean you'd have to have without Rasmus Anderson. Even Rasmus playing through a significant lower body injury was a huge upgrade on 20 plus minutes of Miramano of or something you'd have to do. And so you had a chance to be bold there, but you didn't, you were probably worried about the message you would send to the room. If you're worried about the message you're sending to the room this summer, you might be hurting yourself.

How much is Perak play into it? For next year? Yeah. Fair amount. But I don't know how you're going to get a good read on them until camp, to be honest. Well, but that's part of what I'm just thinking out loud. You may have to keep Anderson because of Perak. Not in, right?

Like, why? I mean, if they're bad, they just pick up. You got to play someone with them. You can't just throw the kids. Yeah, but they're both righties. Raspers doesn't play the left. Oh, really. Like, I would be weager of a guy.

Weiger, whatever. It's just, it's, I'm just saying that you have to have a depth chart and slotting, Dean. Some slotting. You got to have some slot in. Right? Like, you can say I'm wrong. That will be considered. Who's playing with who?

And I view similarly in the sense that you have to have a plan for Perak. He's too good to go back to the O, but that doesn't mean he's going to be real good right away in the NH. Like, I think there's going to be a lot of defense. Like I think there's going to be a lot of defensive gaffes along with the offensive brilliance. But who's on his left side? And is that someone that you can trust to play what kind of minutes? And they've given ball to Anderson. And is ball Porek going to work?

And I just sort of look at long term, Uighers locked in. You love Pahall on the third pair right side. Perek, is he ready for top four yet or not? I would trade that Uighur right away. That's exactly what I wouldn't do. I'm joking. I know. Yeah.

You know what's great about it, though, is because where they are right now and what both sides have a real argument that they can bring. Of course. Yeah. You can not good enough. You missed again. You can't score. You're relying on goal tending. 20 schmel.

You got it. You can't do it. Could we win five more games if we had more scoring and maybe one better defense? Oh, yeah. Eight wins. Oh, yeah. That puts you right in the thing. whole mice.

And both sides could absolutely have a compelling argument. There's no question. And so for next year, I think it's a tough debate. It's way harder to make the case that if you're building to try to win a championship in 28, 29, 30, when you've got a wave of young players in a new building and the ability to recruit better. You have a space for those people to come in for you to be good enough to. It's just, you know, it really depends on how keyhold are you in making the playoffs in the next two years versus trying to win a cup in four to ten years.

And that's that's that's a front office ownership type philosophical, philosophical decision. Hearing loss clinic. I'm sick of hearing about. Craig can hear. Craig can hear everybody. He's, he's hearing all of your thoughts. I hope he is anyway.

He'll, I mean, I'd love to be a fly in the wall there. Oh, well, geez, you know. Gosh, we had a little more scoring. But geez, you know, man.

I don't know though. I don't know if we, but if we'll be. What if he takes a knock? The whole thing is so Conroy. Yeah. Well, you know, maybe we could get some picks. Ah, geez.

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Let's get to the Pinner Report. there is some news. Did you see two guys come and play to callups? I got the thing. Okay. Good. Thank you. It's big.

Are they leaving anyone home? Like if you were on that team and you're like, well, well, you get to go to LA. That's not always the end of the world. No, are you leaving after the game or you staying over? That's going to be the decided for me. If I was flying out night of, I'll just stay home. If we're getting a night in LA, I'll come with you.

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Great, Ryan. Back to me. Back to you, Ryan. Set over to Flames Nation. Oh, my gosh. We got a transaction. That's right. Goodness.

Hunter Bruce Stevich, Sam Morton. Is that Hank Harton, Sam Morton on the rise? Get him, Hank. And right shot, Hank. Do you think Sam Morton and Trent call? You think their kind of their kindred spirits? Oh, they got horses.

Kind of their western ace. Oh, Sam, Sam, Morton. I said Morton Western. It sounds like he's. Is that a good year there? Isn't this Hunter more like like. Bristavich.

That sounds more like my. Oh, on this the God. Polish. Some cap of rules. Anyway, they're coming up. Expect Sunni of and Parek to play to play.

So yeah, it could be a sculpting squad of the guys from. Thank God we're busy. Yeah. I think there'll be some. excitement around Sunye of Perrek and these fellas as well. Yeah, for sure. Sam Morton's not a prospect in the sense that he's probably 24, 25.

But the other, like, Bristavich, you got in the, in the, in the, in the, in the Lindholm deal. Perk, you draft nine overall. Sunniev's the pick you get in the Tofoli deal. Like, we're one year into a rebuild. Fellas are starting to come up. This is exciting. Some of these guys really play well.

Restevich, another red shot, red. So is this Morton's first regular season game? Yes, it would be. Good for him. from Minnesota State to the Wranglers. Good for him. We saw him in Penn, Tickton. Yeah, liked them.

I mean, quite a bit older than most of the guys there. Sure was, yeah. It was good. Okay. Over to Flames Nation. What else is buzzing in the Flames sphere? All those writers keep writing. Flames fans give one hell of a show,

despite playoff dreams coming to an end. Stay eye on this shit. Also, Ryan Pike weighing in with Flames close out home schedule with shootout win over Vegas. True. And then the next article, the clock strikes. How should they get paid to do this? I should maybe start right now.

AI and some articles for cash on the side. I didn't get paid anything. Yeah. You put a lot of effort into it. I think with AI being able to do it is I really wouldn't pay someone to do it. Especially when you've kind of laid out exactly how you'd go about doing it. I just get AI to do it. I'm going to do some.

What is the pay? I'm going to do some writing. And I'm just going to send it to Craig. On the DL. Yeah. Connie. actually I might send it to egg we could do that here Warner's game notes like after a game

yeah if uh let's just add to my workload for you guys yeah carrying you to my workload yeah you guys you did there immediately passed off the work before I finished the set he did yeah uh king clancy nominee for the Calgary flames is Jonathan Eubardo had a really nice year and was a leader off the ice as well Oh, way to go. One of 32 nominees, one for each team.

Congrats to Yubi on the honor. Had a very good year. That was a nice development this year amongst all the other young players and this. And is this the award where something shitty has to happen to you? And then. No, that's the one that they got Justin Kirkland up for. Right. What's this one?

It's our leadership and community. Is it? Excellence in the field of excellence, the Humberset J. Simpson. Oh, okay. It's a lot of these ones. Parced through the Rob. So the other one.

So the other one's the perseverance. Persuerts. Persuert. Masterton. Right. The bill. Well, whatever this is for, congrats. Congrats, John.

Let's revisit some pain, shall we? 30 seconds left in Minnesota. I said, we need to do this again. Goosh. This is how close the flames are to making the playoffs, folks. Look at this dumb defense. Can you get something on it and get it into glass? Oh, dear.

One time. It's almost like they were all in on it. Stick check, stick check, stick check. Stink and ducks. Somewhere B.XA is in a temple and he's got his little dark room that he controls the Ducks universe with. Cackling. You know you wanted the flames out. I'm going to get to it.

Go straight seam to the back door. This guy's going to be open. So the flames rally. They win in a shootout over a shorthanded, depleted Vegas team. And what do they do to celebrate? Well, there's Dustin Wolf after the game. signing autographs megan mickleson they recorded this hours after being eliminated from postseason oh yeah you might as well sign autograph i think you were going to the red mile

you're going to fire up the red mile fire it's gonna rock the red mile yeah that guy you're on tic-tok wasn't invited remember that right fired him you know it looks like there's snow underground this is a bunch of BS let's grammles a i stinking i i don't know why i have to be a dick Well, maybe you could at least wish the great young netminder, happy birthday. Can you do that for us? Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Happy birthday.

Happy birthday. Happy birthday. I didn't see if you're playing 53 this year, kid, or whatever the hell it was. 53. Good job. It'd been 54. Stinking. I love the Wayland's Jennings on the mask, too.

That's all. Wailon Jennings. I thought you were saying about the Jennings trophy? That's not. That's not Waylon? No. Oh. So he got tattoos in his face.

Waylon doesn't? I don't, I'm not asking you. He's a Stone Cold Killer. Don't mess. I'm not saying he is or isn't he'll kick the shit of. He will kick the piss out of that post Malone. I like that.

And so here's how close it was, folks. Look at the wild card in the West. Peak pain. Crystalized. Why are you doing this? There's other things. One game to play, two points out. And yeah, you would lose the type.

Oh, man. Yeah. Last night's results, let's get to that. Nice thing about it is you guys all chortled when I said in St. Louis, in January, here's the, no. What's that segment called again? Chicago won again in overtime. She said, God wasn't playing for nothing.

But yeah. Other games of note, Toronto does clinch the one seed with that victory over Buffalo. It was an odd one between Tampa and Florida. they couldn't move, you know, once they knew Toronto was going to win. They knew they were playing each other. Could have been a tone set of, I looked at the penalty minutes early. It was not a town setting. No.

They're just saying, let's just get this over with. Panthers bring back all your good players that are either hurt or pretending to be hurt. And we'll see you for game one on the weekend. At least they didn't have tough guys like back in the day when you had, we played a couple games at the end of the year. You're missing the playoffs and there was some big massive glute. Yeah, some vending machine. Didn't care about playing soft and was out there for one reason.

Good, Steve. For his fifth game of the season. Are you, Steve? Can you calm the down, please? Like, we're just trying to get through this. I know we're sour against with the wild and the, probably more of the ducks, I guess, but we're sour with the wild. I mean, hat tip to whoever that coach is, putting Mark Andre Fleury in for

with the overtime and shootout. Yeah, in a moment. We'll get there. All right. But it's John Heinz and the very good, yeah. The other game of note? I played with Steve. Ruin?

Gotcha. Fine. Yeah. 3-0. Savor. Columbus beats the flyers. That's a big one for Montreal fans. Habs fans, game of your life tonight, it feels like.

Okay. East, here's what we're explaining. Why is it big for Montreal tonight? Because, well, there's 15 playoff spots secured after last night. One up for grabs. Montreal's got a two-point bulge on the bluejack. It's a single point tonight will clinch it for the half. more in their matchup with Carolina in a moment.

I say they blow it. They might. You should see Carolina's dressing. We'll get to that in a moment, too. There's your tie breaks too. My God. This is, need the point.

Need the point. So with all the results of last night, we have the playoffs pretty much almost nailed down. Elliot tweeted this out last night. Let's just walk our way through it. Lose Jets. Feels like that could be a good one. Avalanche stars.

God damn it. We've seen this basically since the second rant and entry. this is going to be epic. Wild Golden Knights, okay. Oilers Kings. This has been a collision course for a long time, fourth year in a row. Now we had the Byfield nurse drama to it.

Nurse got suspended for a single game, but we'll be ready for game one. Battle of Ontario, Battle of Florida, Cain's Devils in the East. And the final matchup we're awaiting is Washington hosting, either the Kenna, or the Blue Jackets.

Oh, oh, oh. I'm not ready to get excited for the playoffs. You're not ready. I'm still a bit. You've got till Saturday and they'll only be, I think, three by my math. You know what? It's okay to not be ready because they're not ready for you.

No, they're still going to play some meaningless games. There's even one series. We don't know what the hell's going on yet. Don't feel bad. Let's go to Minnesota. You noted it. Once the Wild got, you've seen all these matches. It's fine.

The point they needed to secure the playoff spot, they did have to play overtime, but the result didn't matter. And no better reason to put in Mark Andre Fleury to get a huge cheer from his teammates and one more chance to play in front of the home crowd. We don't know that he will or won't get a chance in the players. He hates hands. He hates people. He's open,

yeah, it might be his last last chance to play. He'll be on the ice, but may not play again. I don't know what that is, but it's got flowers. Flowers for the flower. He's really not the flower, though. Is that on his coffee table? Guy.

Guy Lefleur was many flowers. The flower. It's like the great. one in the great eight but i will say this i like that kind of stuff and greetsky that sort of thing inside sports where you'll see stuff like that you spell respect yeah yeah because we don't have respect for each other well the you know maybe in baseball you take out a guy after go start the game take him out in the third inning or whatever i can't get you like stand and o from the crowd dear flurry you've been in you've inspired me to be the goal that i am today thanks from

arlin yeah i'm going to cry that's awesome stuff be great of flurry was sitting at the end of the bench though didn't have a skates on. It's like, I'm, how many games I played? You're going to put me out for OT now. They love this guy. Screw that. Whoever you are, coach. They got a big glute,

golden is going to be calling up next year. You're replacing. All right, Mark Andre, last regular season game. How come he's quitting? Quitter. Yeah. Everyone hates a quitter. I mean, I think it's probably time.

They forced me into quitting. I wouldn't have seven against the sharks. You'd still be there. sitting in depot's office with your towel on. Sneaking darts under the bleachers. Alex I Falos got a new deal with the Jets. That is news today. Now, why would a guy re-up in Winnipeg?

Boy, it must be a great fit for him. The money looks pretty good. Just 3.67 for the veteran forward long-time king. And it was funny. This is Murat who writes for the athletic. He did a piece asking all the Jets who thrives in the Winnipeg winter more than others. This was one of the excerpts of that piece that he wrote. Because it gets cold?

It sure does. Yeah. So you'd need to be thick-skinned. Yeah. I love the blank stare. It's because Ryan sends things. 13B. We have guests on and of doing stuff.

13B. You can't send it before we start. 13B. Give them shit, Jack. I am giving him shit right now. Apparently he likes chainsawing ice out of a lake and building igloos and stuff. You found your happy place. Hey, he's getting paid.

And we're going to give you over 10 million bucks to do it. Very good. Habs tonight, huge game. Massive, massive game. Mahusive. It is Mahos. Are we okay to talk about who's playing in this game, Jack? Or do we just have the single game?

Don't be cheeky. I'm literally asking. One point away from the playoffs. Hoo! That's coast to coast tonight. Come on, Habs. That's the banner. one point away one point away okay now this is interesting this is the canes at morning skate now

morning skate doesn't mean they're not playing maybe you're just taking an option but it also just might mean you're not playing ah ho Jackson blake chel jalen chatfield Seth jarvis Jordan martinuk jacob slavin and jordan stall all absent from morning stall is still playing you know and last stall standing I stall standing there's my face out is a lot of good players. That's a lot of good players. That's not unlike what we saw from Vegas last night in Calgary. What I would expect the LA Kings to do tomorrow. Don't be a sift, Montembo. It can't be Matumbo.

Tonight's games, let's get you the whole slate here. Vente moka yesterday. There's no good. No good. Yuck. Gross. Ew. Pretty meaningless hockey most of the way around. It's all eyes on.

abs and canes fellows we're just going to save you what are you talking about look at the late game i can't wait for that to start oil the sharks oh yeah the b team out there trying to hurt the sharks the beat team gets their asses handed to him they'll have no darnel nurse oh no do you think he's appealing that one or you really wants to get it for tonight or is he okay to serve that this fish oh shoot game 82 against the sharks on the road i'll just stay in them okay yeah stand for it you know i'm a lot of money though it's 180 second of his that's not a fine yeah whatever 180 second of 9.25 million. That's what it's...

Is that all he makes? Just, yeah. Apparently they thought every fourth Puckie shot would continue to go in. Weird, you know that off the top of your head. Yeah, well,

I like those overpace. Cobra Hitman. Oh, big one last night. Brett, did you give a speech to the Lepardich hurricanes yesterday? What the hell happened here? And Holt asked me to come down. Noise, strangle, hold times.

Let's go here. No one's coming back from three. Oh, let's go. Let's go. A lot of goals in the third period. Play tonight. Let's look at the schedule, Jackie. Tonight.

Back to back. And then it'll be a Friday double header at the dome as I think the Wranglers and the Hitman will play at the dome. And it's a holiday. So you probably have a matinee in an evening game. On Friday? Yeah. Uh-huh.

Because Friday, we know that Carter King's going to make his HL debut with the. Oh, the hell is Carter. Mr. Katta. It's Katta. It's Katta. Let's go. Playing in the minors. Who?

Correct. No, he'll be playing for the flames in L.A. Well, what about when that season's over? He's not eligible. Oh, I thought I heard there's a way. Sunni is not eligible. Sorry, Perak is. I think they're,

you know, we rely on you to provide this part of the, like, we're going to do CBA bullshit. Yeah. You know it. Get your head screwed on straight. Let's go. Soon you have ineligible play, Perak is eligible.

So then we can expect to see Perak. So you should get your anglers. And then next year that I would expect Perak at the HLLB. I would expect. You wouldn't send practical play with the Ranglers right now? I don't know that he's eligible for the playoffs because he wasn't on the roster at the trade deadline, but you could play him for a meaningless regular season game for the Wranglers. It's a lot of the nuances of this.

So I don't expect them in the A. What are we? So you can go play, but not on the roster at the trade deadline. You can't be on the playoff roster. So you don't parachute in a bunch of. Oh, God for bed. The integrity of the H.L team has to be. Is it paramount?

sure sure that would work yeah finally we'll close this scintillating edition of the pender report it was really good what do we know about our boy rj what does he love he's a salmon he loves disney he loves disney well check out his new tattoo let's go it's the Mickey mouse cut inside it's the Mickey Mouse or a tattoo that like your tattoo is better retro thank you yeah like the monkey one I almost tore my shirt off right here now just to let it bark. Anyway, excited to see RJ. He's in town tomorrow night, isn't he, Jack?

He's staying in my house. Oh, ew. I wouldn't do that. Are you sure? Broose. Back to you, Dean. It's the Pinda Report. Presentation of our good friends at Village Honda.

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Disney. They'll dig in you for any. They'll hit you. Do you think we board noodles with all of her? No, he's into it. He likes that stuff. Yeah,

I think he's got a place in his heart for the flames. Also, that show he does. It's very sporty. It is less gravy talk than we do. Very. He probably talks to Conroy. He gets all kinds of insights. We don't bother.

You should look into that. Talking to Connie? Ask him. See what he's thinking? I'm so busy. What are you doing? Well, I'm just seeing because there's something coming up, but I didn't want to, April 18th.

So there's kind of an embargo. Do you know what that is? Well, is it a Trump tariff kind of thing? No, no, this is good. Today's the 16th. Yeah, today's the 16th. I'm in a bargo? Election.

I'm sure we could probably tell you about it, but we're not going to, we're going to hold off. We're going to wait. Who's given you orders to hold off? No one. I'm just, uh, using judgment.

You realize where you're sitting. I know. This is where your judgment's got you. Yeah. That's a good point. True. True that. Um,

you know, we talk a lot about and you're wearing the, Hey, after burn, our, Barnburner, Burner blonde, after burner pale ale, origin brewing, Strathmore, got the new tap room and brewery up in the northeast. Hell yeah.

Crushing it. I was up there. It's good. How does it all start? You got a brewing company. It's just, it can't. Just pulling the tap and the beer comes out or? No, it's got to start somewhere.

Here's where it starts. Right there. Oh. far as the eye can see. Yeah, just. Wow. They're putting around boys. I don't want to sound like a guy that doesn't know anything about farm,

but we're going to call the seeding. Is that right? It's seeding time. It's a seating round, Ryan. Yeah. Seating round, good. It is the seeding around, yeah. So how long until those seeds are in my belly in the form of beer?

Like next year at this time, you think? Is the barley the girl that cut it down the fall, then the malt and then turn the malt into the beer and then I drink the beer? Yeah. I mean, it's, That's quite a process. It is a process. It's a farm to glass.

And you're probably thinking, well, this is what, little small operation? So you've got just, is that a tractor? What do we got going there? A cute little tractor there, buddy. Yeah, it's a big deal. What's behind that tractor? I wonder. I'm more tractors.

Jackson, what are you talking? Jack's asleep. Whoa. That sort of thing. Oh, Clark Wilm, who was at the game last night. Did we see any Clark Wilm's son? I didn't. Oh, come on, people.

I didn't watch that close. John Deere, he'll be happy. We've talked about this. It's a success story. It's a true five-generation farm out in Strathmore. Wow. They've grown, they've gotten bigger, and now they are probably, what have we? Is there two in Canada that do it this way?

We farm it, and they don't even malt it. They farm it and then make their own beer. Yeah, they're the only one that does all the stages long, I believe. Grow the barley, malt the barley, make the beer. Serve the beer. Sell the beer. Serve the beer. Pour it into my mouth via funnel.

Yeah. We should probably have some kind of a thing where we just maybe take a day and just sit and have those. Because that was a big day. We came in, we played some tragically hip. You started drinking beers. We had a hell of a good time. That was a good show. Now if we're looking for content, maybe with the flames out, maybe a, a trip up to St.

Vegas. A sample. Well, even here, just kind of sap the, just go through the cablages right there. Yeah, just kind of go. We'd have a sapler party. Yeah. Mark to send over some more samples. Details on that going on.

There's Sterling out there. Oh, boy. Probably really, you get broken up to be away from his wife and kids. I'd be so lonely out there. That's how I'd feel. Feel for him. Also, I was giggling because fifth generation and like, we have children. Yeah.

Are we? Is there a generational plan? Like, on one hand, there's no plan. And on the other hand, probably for the best. That's, to carry this forward. Why don't you not follow my footsteps, son? Yeah. Get the out of the house.

Cautionary tale as to what can happen, son. Safeway. Man, you know what? I got to go to Safeway. I'm out of, if you can believe this, Dean. Out of butter. Can you believe that? No.

Oh, are you out of butter? I was down to my last brick. And are you bitter? Are you bitter? about it. Bitter but a bunch of butter. Somebody's supposed to fill the front of run low and butter. We have a lot of butter. We have

talking about. We have had the Safeway My NHL Picks contest. Of course, this is the final week. They're fired up next year. We'll get into it again. But it's been it's unique. I don't know. You got Thursday to Wednesday. You pick the games. Feels so easy.

Yeah. Oh. You get it on. You look at that list. You've got a whole week of games. I just need to 60 games. Five. Five. I need to get five right out of this whole. How is this even a contest? This is not hard. What's that like when you're the driving range or whatever?

You want to end on a good one? Yeah. One more. Yeah. One more. End on a good one. Good. That is not how I wrapped up safe ways my NHL picks.

Dean. No, not great. Who screwed you here? Let's look. Just what everybody. As it turns out. Oh, the aves wake up.

Alves lost of the Canucks. The lightning got beat by the Red Wings. Oh, dear. Keynes did beat the Rangers. Okay, that's good. Jets beat the Hawks. Nice. And then the caps lost to the Columbus's.

Columbus is coming. A little better, but I got two and three. Sianara. Not your best, Bob. Not my best. You're saving it for your playoff picks. That's what you're doing. I guess.

Yeah, those prognostications will be finally tuned for the second. What did you do there? What's yours? What's you? A little better. I grew up four, five last game of the week got me. Blues could not beat the crack. And what a bunch of losers.

Although that helped the fun. Remember that one? Barely. Shoot out, I think. It didn't help the funds because they're screwed. Well, it helps me the time. I go back to the pie chart. You're still one of those three things, I guess.

Yeah. Congratulations, Ryan. Dean, you- I got to be way up the leaderboard here. Let's go. I need some scene points. Give me some prizes. Some grocery deals.

Bricks of butter. Let's go. Butter. Go and visit the app on Friday. There's some sneaky stuff in there on Fridays. Trigger those orders or the, the offers. You got to do it. Got to do it.

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Bam. Oh, yeah. Safe way. Safe way. The better way. Today's better way. I felt that out in the 90s. Get your butter.

Don't be bitter. If you're bitter, get some butter. Safe way. popcorn too in hindsight it was probably good we didn't do a thing last night oh that would have been a very morose i was keeping track online i had this thread of tweets that we had about 20 long and it was just like timestamp scores time stamp scores immediately the blues pull away wild get up one nothing oh boy then the ducks see it up you're okay okay but then flames fall and back like it just yeah but we could have still we knew we were heading to sadness but just how

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It's a paycheck on the street. Are you, Rhett Warner? Who wants to know? What's the problem? So cops show up at Rett's house. Oh boy. Which can happen.

Not ideal. Yep. Dang dong. Are you, Rhett Warner? I know where he is. Can I help? Yes. What are you doing?

Nothing. What's up? We found this blowing in the breeze down the street by the park. It was a check for a significant amount of money. We found this check in a gutter by a hot dog stand outside of Cowboys at 4. this morning. Might you be missing this? Oh, I don't know, maybe. I guess.

It's got my name on it. It's probably my name. It's not many people with that name. It's probably. Who's a check from? I was his paycheck from the Cowdery Flames. No, it was a tax return. It was a tax return. Some sort. I'd overpaid. It was a lot of money, Jack. We'd have had a hell of the time in

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Yeah. My inner voice is an asshole. Really? Yeah. No one would want to live with this guy. He's interesting. He's, uh, he's not nice.

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It's like, oh, boy, there was a lot of warning signs. And then you look for some backup. See? Hey, have you ever met that Billter Williger guy? In the eyebrow. Idiot. Right? Well, I just met him the other night.

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It is going to be lit. The canes are going to field some rinky dink lineup, we think, for tonight's must get a point game for the Habs. I'm going to go see if the odds have changed since the morning skate was announced, gentlemen, because here's the thing. We didn't know that it was going to be a skeleton crew, and it's starting to look like it will be a skeleton crew tonight for the canes. In fairness, they're going to ice the same number of players.

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they're at bat 365, 19-year-old played responsibly. Yeah. Not that this flames team is done doing its thing. It can really open us up. Yeah, get some options, right? Get focused. Good first round series here.

Not hockey. No, no. It's not talking about hockey. What are you talking about the hot. He started talking about the hot dogs. He started talking about hot dogs, which got me thinking about baloney. We would talk with bontan meats,

putting together like the... The bologna special. Can you, if we're going to do a tribute to bologna, Bologna, can you also, can we slide hot dogs? Why not have one of each? Would that be from the, is that from the same sort of family?

I don't know. I would imagine it is. I think we could do a meat bracket pretty easily, though, I'll tell you that. I would imagine it is part of the same family. Yeah. But boy, once we get into hot dogs, then I'm going to want to,

to get into like brots and sauce it then it's a slippery slope. I don't think you need to mix the deli nitsles with the hot dogs. See, schnitzels are not. No, schnitzels are like, because schnitzels, it's a different deal. You'd think it's,

it's a sausage, but it's not. It's kind of a, I don't know how you'd kind of describe it. I look it up. Schnitzel. I was a dog? I'm not eating the dog.

Oh, because you think of a vina or schnitzel, but when you go to a, German whatever to have schnitzel. It's not what you're going to expect. You're thinking, oh, if it's coming in a bun? No. Probably don't. I thought schnitzel was like.

Yeah, it's like a deep fried piece of meat. Yeah. That's right. Okay. Yeah. My bad. See, this is why we need to have these events. Don't,

and don't feel bad. We need the meat bracket. We need the meat bracket. You're clearly not alone. We need to clear these sorts of things up. And that's why Bontan meets us here. We told you yesterday, get your beef on with Bonton. Mm-hmm.

It's nice out. It's a long weekend. We love good turkey. The turkey dinner's great. This time around, this Easter, get your beef on. Get your beef on with bontan.

Dean doesn't like lamb, but I'm going lamb. You can do that. Lamb's good. Vina Schnitzel is VL. Jack, what are you doing for the, are you going to get your beef on with bontan? I actually have a question. So my buddy just bought a smoker.

We did ribs last weekend. How'd they go? delicious. Really? So good. What's the play this weekend? Can you smoke a turkey? Oh, you can smoke a turkey.

Don't deep fry it because we need you here next week. Yeah. Round one. I should be doing that. Wounds take a while to heal. Yeah. Burns bad. I've never smoked.

You've dabbled a little, but you've got to be careful. If it gets too heavy with the smoke flavor, I don't like it. It's too much. Yeah. Breathing it for weeks. You got a swallowed. Yeah. And you have to kind of watch the,

oh, I love smoke. It's not Drager, because clearly he's, he's got some years in, right? He's done some repetitions. He's got,

oh, smoke, I smoke things all the time. Oh, I like to have some. And like you say, this is just pure charcoal. This is,

yeah, this tastes like an ash. And so you guys did a good job of the ribs. That's a great stuff. The ribs are good. How smoky do you like stuff? I don't know. I mean,

The epitome of the, they're too dumb. The piece de resistance on any smoker is brisket. Briscuit is the risk. If you can do brisket. When you're slicing that thing and it's the juice starts to kind of run out because you're going against the gray. Oh, but you keep my, you've let it sit. That's just how moist it is. It's hard.

Are we can drags, uh, tomorrow by the way, because we're off Friday. I'm going to reach out. Okay. I'm going to reach out. This is, I feel like we could try to answer Jack's questions about smoking, but really. Dregs. Should people,

yeah, go ahead. Should they? No. They, whoever you're running with, whatever asshats, you should not be running a smoker.

Order in. And are, what are we talking about for smokers? Is this a pellet? We're going to smoke a turkey? Green egg, you know, you're smoking something.

Leave the cook into somebody else. I don't do any of the cooking. I just maybe they want to get good at like druggler you just got to have a good meat market and then get good at smoking look you can get your beef on with bontan i'm fine with that jack jack yes you can do it you can do it just stay focused you don't have anything disrupting you just well see here's the thing we we put the roast on the barbecue and then you got to keep it low and slow low and then we went to you got to stay up all night though depends on your smoker again you got to keep it low and slow low and then we went to you got to stay up all night though depends on your smoker again We came back the next day. It was still on and it was totally,

it was like totally burnt. The first time. I had this salmon and I put it in a marinade brown sugar rugs. It was the best salmon I've ever. Really? And so you're Jack now in this. Have you done it since? No.

It took a lot. Did you put it on a cedar plank? Oh, I do cedar plank ones a lot. Yeah. With the John Henry Pecan rub. Got it. Oh, John Henry.

John Henry. Oh. He's been canceled since you can't get the rub anymore, but that kind of rub, Dean. It's pretty good. Starb Kraft kind of rub or a different kind of? Do you like brisket? I love brisket.

And I think you do a brisket. Get the fellows together. Pool your assets. Do some research. Ask drags your question two tomorrow. You'll nail it. You can risk it. for the brisket

let's risk it slow all right if don't have a I need to eat at this time just guys try to convince you it's done I'm starving it's got to be done yeah it's good let's take it off let's get

go on it's probably a really good policy to just have other meal there and then it's like a bonus if it turns up perfect it's true you gotta have you don't rush it I feel like a fried pizza while you're doing the brisket what's good with the brisket brisket Brisket.

Just brisket? Anything else? Most places you go traditional brisket, a piece of white bread. Maybe some coal slough. Okay. Some kind of a roll. If you're going to Bonton, grab the potato son. Grab the potato salad at Bonton.

Be disappointed. Have you, have I taken out to barbecue ever? Have you taken them anywhere? You eat barbecue? Ditch them left and right. Has Ryan ever taken you out for food? Come on.

Hey, have I ever taken. You're taking four months in a row and every Thursday. Where does Ryan take you out? To the garrison. Yeah. I want fish and chips too. Do you? Haven't had those.

They have them there. Oh, it's been a while since we've been there. It's been a while. It's been a while. So what would happen if we started drinking tomorrow during the show? It's a long day coming out. I'll tell you that for free because there's going to be some drinking at Cowboys Casino later. I don't know.

I don't know. I'm an old man. Are you going to mix in a nap or? I endorse you doing it. I'm not good at the nap and go again. Well, that's what I'm saying. It might not be the morning to do some heavy drinking on the show. Wow.

A couple socials. Not going to stop you. A couple socials. Yeah. That's a Rett decision for Rett. You can see how I sleep tonight. That's getting dangerous. That's in the super chat.

Presentation. Well, it's, I guess, presentation of us. You're welcome. Yeah. We give the money to the youth centers of Calgary. So you got to put a little donation in that we put your, uh, peak pain says, Don, Pender was right. Pender is always right. Rett and Boomer should apologize to him. It should take more than five bucks to have that shitty comment on there.

I think we all kind of thought peak pain was happening. No one's really, it's not a eureka moment. It's the flames franchise. So the flames missed in peak pain. Missed the playoffs, but didn't. Ninth in the West. They've never picked in the top three. Still.

So it's. Sorry, Ryan. Sorry, Ryan. Sorry, Dan. sorry Dan thank you Dan I guess yeah that's it huh no there's more oh big fat guy great year thanks now super tank for Gavin McKen that is a heavy heavy what would the word be I don't know the big ask yeah ask what to do a super tank yeah not just tank yeah you are going to need a super tank is give me some competition next if you're super tank and you're get walk through it so what

If you were going to pull off a super tank, Wolf taught that you have to send him away somewhere. No, you got to keep him. You get a shitty backup in the alternate starts. It starts the D line. Weger and Anderson are gone. That's a super tank. That might alone do it right there. And I throw cadre in there because he's going to be once the team's horse shit, his production is going to plummet.

Like Coleman, you would look really good in the third line of. contender. Like it. I like it here. And you've been real good for us. And we love having you, but we're going to move you. Did you see,

Johnny Gordon went back to Tampa? He says the weather's still great. Riley Smith loves Vegas. Now, I feel like one change you don't need to make is your 5-1-5 scoring. Feel you're right where you want to be. Yep. Scoring's good. 301st or whatever it was this year.

Drop that power play a bit more. Penalickill got way too good the last third of the year. More bean on the P. Since Trent Cole took over. I was let me get Trent off. Get Trent out of there. Yeah, we're going to need you to go back to do whatever you were doing there, hoss.

And we're going to need Rhett doing the pregame speeches. That was funny, eh, Jack? That was good, yeah. Really funny. Yeah. Like that. Thanks for the two bucks. Big fat guy.

I love you, big fat guy. Hands of Dan in with a hundred bucks. Every Dustin Wolf means a hundred bucks from Hansom Dan. I don't know if any flames players will ever read this. Oh, they will. We'll hear it. Yeah, you like to stream it. This season was a success.

We wanted a positive identity. You delivered. We wanted meaningful games late in the season. You delivered. This group had the most lunch bucket mentality since 0.4. Thank you. 1415, too, was kind of the same. Special years.

Yeah. Those teams both made the playoffs. Some sad music for us. You know, it's not sad, handsome, Dan? How much you've helped the kids? Yes. That's right, Dan. Thank you, handsome, Dan.

You've delivered. Thank you, Dan. kids Jason hey Rhett I'm spending some time this summer with my uncle Lauren Mollican and Sask

anything I can ask him for you not that I can say no I yeah who was Lord Mollican Red that's my head coach the blades he coached in Chicago San Jose oh yeah he

you know Rhett was always on time for curfew and he was a model citizen God he called my dad once when he snuck out and ripped it her kids right my dad's like my kid was in bed arguing back dad had an ex name on the ed bay even somebody's bed we'll say hi i guess say hi to him from old retro and we'll stop hey look that guy oh say hi do i so say hi to him yeah

yeah for sure um rats is hi hey hey hey who sedge are we against signing marner get us talent gets us Oh, I see. I mean. Or get us some talent. Get us. 14 million bucks for a winger. Could do it. He's not coming to Calgary.

I don't think so either. I don't think he is. I don't know that he fixes anything here. Now the question is, are we against it? Are you against the, no, trying to sign him? If you heard that they had gone in eight times 14. Okay.

I would love it, but I could understand it. What if now we're really pushing it down? Because my thing is, well, that's great, but he's not coming to Calgary. But what if there was, Marner is entertaining eight times 14 and a half. Sounds like one soda to Toronto. I don't know. I see he's using us for leverage, but someone else stole out of 13 and a half. It's hard to get past it, right?

Even when you try and just suspend the disbelief. It's one soda to the chase. What's the play here? Otani's, you know, done it. What? This guy's full of shit. So, sorry to whoever hedge, hedge. We're not against the.

the attempt. The premise of adding talent is a nice one. It's just for agencies, not going to be a real nice fishing hole for you. Yeah. Too expensive and they're going to want to go to contenders. Well, suppose that's it,

a? Well, that's it. That was it, a guest. That was it, a, how was it,

today, Jack? It's good. I'm still confused over this I have followed tree thing that Ryan was trying to tee up. What was that? It wasn't a tree. No, it was a article.

about something written. That's all it was. IAfoil. It felt like anyway, from here, IAFollow is one of the guys that enjoys is okay in the Manitoba winters. Fishing and hunting and building igloos. Yeah.

Yeah, you never sent it. Okay. I'll just retweet it back to you. That's fine. Well, he doesn't need it now. No, it's too late. It's a debate. I know.

I won't take away. He wasn't at all. Really? So you're going, you're going to defend yourself? I probably didn't send it to him. What? He's had a chance to scan all day.

I haven't. Likely, I save the picture and do you. All right. Yeah, there's. See you, buddies.